[00:01] chrisccoulson, sure no hurry [00:01] it's weekend [00:01] and other people are travelling this weekend [00:01] heh, i can't believe how early some people go to bed [00:01] i should just go and wake them up really [00:01] lol [00:01] hehe [00:02] didrocks, hey, bzr seems confused about your quidgets merge [00:02] it doesn't seem to think there is anything new to pull or merge, any idea what I am doing wrong? [00:03] itorrey_test: I'm looking forward to seeing what you've come up with! [00:04] ok awesome itorrey [00:08] djsiegel1: jcastro : Ok I've attached the theme to the ticket [00:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/392488 [00:09] Ubuntu bug 392488 in hundredpapercuts "Empathy could use an Ubuntu-specific Adium theme" [Low,Triaged] [00:09] rickspencer3: sorry got distracted by a nasty njpatel :p [00:09] And am of course at the ready to make any and all fixes [00:09] kenvandine: ^ can you land that? [00:09] rickspencer3: oopsss, not right project, fixing it now [00:10] djsiegel1, yup [00:10] djsiegel1, but i need to fix empathy first [00:10] djsiegel1, might be monday [00:10] rickspencer3: yeah, it was one line click away, take last one now (https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/bughugger/package/+merge/18732) [00:10] didrocks, k [00:10] * njpatel creates plan to kidnap didrocks to fix his builds [00:11] * didrocks creates plan to fix upstream :) [00:13] didrocks, njpatel is your #1 customer [00:14] UNE ftw! [00:14] didrocks, your going to wish rickspencer3 didn't say that [00:14] didrocks, if it comes down to saving the world from annihilation and fixing njpatel's builds,m would be a touch call [00:15] heh [00:15] fix the builds first, then save the world I suppose [00:15] ;) [00:15] rickspencer3: We don't even have a tool in teh standard install to modify those settings [00:15] rickspencer3: right, let's create some small steps :) [00:15] rickspencer3: (sorry, got caught in a discussion) [00:15] pitti ah, so it's just changing defaults [00:16] lol [00:16] but the golden rule is that if you have defaults, we give you new defaults [00:16] so this only impacts folks who have downloaded that crazy compiz tweaker thingy [00:16] rickspencer3: if an user explicitly changed the settings, then it would be quite rude to clobber them [00:16] pitti right [00:17] if you no long have defaults, we don't change to new defaults [00:17] rickspencer3: not even mentioning the technical difficulties of changing /home settings during dist-upgrade, or breaking shared /home partitions, etc. [00:17] or even networked /home [00:17] pitti all this happens by tweaking compiz settings? [00:17] right, it's just new gconf keys, by and large [00:17] pitti but all these technical difficulties you mention? [00:18] that sounds rather dire considering the change [00:18] meh, let's discuss at next team meeting maybe [00:18] or on desktop list [00:22] itorrey: that looks great! [00:23] djsiegel1: should I ping segphault about using that look for gwibber? [00:24] TheMuso will be able to test in a few minutes... [00:24] ronoc: Ok thanks. [00:25] jcastro: sure [00:25] jcastro: that would be awesome [00:25] on it [00:30] mvo, hey [00:30] mvo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneHundredPaperCuts/Spec/495641 [00:30] mvo, we forgot to do the "Scale Window Title Filter Enabled" bit... [00:30] do you know where that option is? [00:34] ronoc: And one other thing. Does the ideapad have an external microphone jack as well? [00:39] TheMuso so 0x1c details: jack-type: line-out [00:40] TheMuso, it exposes on the ui only three check boxes -> hp, out and in which have no effect on the output [00:40] ronoc: Ok, looking at other code, I am pretty sure I also know what 0x1c is for as well. I dare say the same work is needed for the microphone jack as well, i.e autosensing. That will have to be tested as well however. [00:41] i.e tested to see whether a patch is needed to fix that. [00:41] ronoc: thanks. [00:43] TheMuso: Nid 0x1a as a jack-type: mic [00:43] ronoc: Yeah I thouhgt so. Is there more than one mic nid? [00:43] one sec [00:44] From the code output, it appeasr there is. It seems I don't need HDA analyser for everything, if I have the codec output, which I do. [00:44] I am learning more about this all the time as well. [00:46] TheMuso: It also looks like 0x1b is a mic [00:46] ronoc: Ok, to be safe, I'll code the mic patch switching as well. [00:47] I can always get that tested on the launchpad bug. [00:47] TheMuso 1a says its internal and 1b says its external [00:47] ronoc: Right, thats all I need. Thanks again. [00:47] TheMuso cool good stuff [00:47] bryceh: stat -C %u examples.desktop [01:17] itorrey itorrey_test: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2198/screenshot1vp.png [01:18] djsiegel1: Sweet! [01:20] ronoc: Thanks for your help once again. I have made a good start on the patch, but won't have time to finish it today. I'll get it finished ASAP and post to the bug once I have packages for people to test. === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [05:55] didrocks: I think your last liblauncher upload was broken; you seem to have renamed liblauncher-0.3-dev -> liblauncher-dev, but not renamed the .install file, so the dev package is empty. The package branch doesn't seem to have updated yet, though, so I'm not sure. [06:06] you can always pull the source from LP [06:13] Yah. [10:16] chrisccoulson: great work with the packages! [10:16] hey there milanbv - no worries :) [10:16] but please note that you we don't actually need libauthen-pam-perl [10:17] that's a stupid line that should never have been committed [10:17] really? [10:17] so i can patch it out and it will still work? [10:18] yeah [10:18] what happened is that I had tried this method before going back to chpasswd [10:18] awesome, i'll do that now! [10:18] OK, cool [10:19] anyway I'll make a new release before Monday, for GNOME 2.29.90 === kermiac_ is now known as kermiac [10:41] milanbv, uploaded now! [10:43] great! [10:44] don't bother with the bugs, I have a list off-hand, I'm going to close them [10:45] milanbv - no worries about that. i tagged them all in the changelog last night [10:45] so they should all close automatically [10:46] oh, new nice feature [10:47] I didn't realize that was working that way now [10:47] hey, great news: a student contacted me to work on a master class project [10:47] yeah, that's worked that way for as long as i've been involved with ubuntu [10:47] he will fix bugs in the gst until April [10:47] cool! [10:48] the sad thing is - I've fixed too much of them :-p [10:48] s/much/many [10:55] heh, yeah, you've fixed quite a few bugs with this release ;) [10:55] it took me a while to populate the changelog [10:55] anyway, i'm going to disappear now :) [10:55] have a good weekend! [10:56] you too [15:06] chrisccoulson: still working? :-p [15:07] hey milanbv [15:07] yeah, i'm just doing a few things ;) [15:07] what do you mean by "the presence of it here makes it impossible to apply the profiles"? [15:07] (about the scanner group) [15:07] milanbv - you could only ever select "Custom" [15:08] sounds like a bug to me [15:08] does this group exist in Lucid? [15:08] yeah, possibly. but we don't have that groujp anyway [15:08] sure, I'm just willing to fix that properly too [15:08] no, the group is not in lucid. i'm not sure when it got dropped [15:09] tbh, a lot of those groups aren't really used for anything anymore [15:09] so that means a non-existent group can be a problem for profiles [15:09] yeah, it seems to be the case [15:09] should fix that for other distribs too [15:09] cool, a proper fix would be nice :) [15:09] yeah, there are at least two bugs about those groups [15:09] the general idea is that if a group doesn't exist, we hide it and don't fail [15:10] I'll give it a look [15:10] yeah, that would be better behaviour [15:10] thanks :) [15:10] BTW, do you have re-enabled services-admin in the new packages? [15:10] i haven't re-enabled it yet. i need to discuss that with the others on monday [15:11] OK [15:11] I'm wondering whether I should add support for upstart jobs [15:11] i need to figure out how to strip the translations from user-profiles.conf now, so that the descriptions can be translated in rosetta [15:11] it's not really useful, since we mostly want to disable services that start unconditionally on start [15:12] most services people want to disable are in /etc/init.d [15:12] anyway, services-admin is now much more user-friendly, and shows services it doesn't know about too [15:13] i'll do a build with it enabled in a bit and have a look [15:13] good luck with user-profiles.conf - I've had a hard time getting it translated with autotools :-) [15:13] if you find services that should not be shown in the list, tell me - I'm now keeping a list of forbidden services [15:41] didrocks: bonojur; breakfast in 20? [15:41] pitti, any idea why libvirt-bin depends on hal? [15:41] heh, everybody jump on pitti ;) [15:42] he's really popular guy :) [15:42] just got online quickly to check in and sync mail before leaving :) [15:42] kklimonda: I haven't checked; would be nice if it would stop doing do, of course [15:44] * pitti cd ~ [15:44] see you on Monday! [15:48] pitti - if you haven't gone already - want me to update gnome-menus? [15:48] (whilst i'm in update-frenzy mode) [15:58] pitti: hey, still around? [17:03] i/c [17:47] A little annoyed I can't upgrade groundcontrol :( [19:52] heh. I cannot even run it to begin with... [19:53] the last version was broken for me, and I'd like to upgrade to the new version which supposedly fixes my bugs [19:53] but there is a dependency issue currently in Lucid [20:03] what dep issue? [20:05] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [20:05] groundcontrol: Depends: python-lazr-restfulclient which is a virtual package. [20:05] Depends: python-lazr-uri which is a virtual package. [20:11] c [20:56] jcastro - you seem to be quite familiar with app indicators, so i have a quick question for you [20:56] do you know if there is any plan to support tooltips on the status icon? [20:58] vish - after responding to your bug about screen blanking when it shouldn't do, i've just had my screen dim when not idle! [20:58] i wonder if i can recreate that again :-/ [20:58] chrisccoulson: as I understand it, no. The design idea is to move the information that would be in a tooltip elsewhere [20:58] Nafai - oh, ok. thanks! [20:58] i was just wondering what to do about gpm [20:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomStatusMenuDesignGuidelines#What about tooltips? [20:59] For example, with the gnome-typing-monitor, I moved the info that was in tooltip to a menu item [20:59] hmmm. for the gpm status icon though, i would consider that to be a regression [20:59] i can currently hover over the icon and see the remaining estimated battery life, without having to open a menu [21:00] I would say mpt is the one to ask about it, he seems to be the one leading up design questions [21:01] thanks:) [21:01] np [21:06] chrisccoulson: hehe , the crappy thing didnt blank[yet?] after i filed a bug ;) [21:07] vish - is this on battery or ac? [21:07] ac [21:07] battery disconnected [21:08] vish - i don't suppose you have idle dimming enabled on AC do you? [21:09] chrisccoulson: nope [21:09] ah well, never mind ;) [21:09] i was going to ask if you noticed it dim before blanking [21:09] i just have the put display to sleep when inactive for 5mins [21:10] 5 minutes? [21:10] thats not the default is it? [21:10] well , thats my setting ;) [21:10] 5 minutes if the default session idle time, which activates the screensaver [21:10] i have screensaver set for 4mins [22:04] Nafai - did you already start porting transmission to the app indicators? [22:06] nope, I stopped working on it when I started contracting because it wasn't on my immediate list [22:06] I didn't get very far either :) [22:08] ah, that's ok then. someone else just assigned the bug report to themselves. i just wanted to make sure people weren't duplicating work ;) [22:08] nope [22:08] thanks for checking up :)