| niko | please, someone can pastebin me last hour of #kubuntu ? | 00:08 |
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| nhandler | niko: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/02/05/%23kubuntu.txt | 00:09 |
| niko | such logs miss a lot of information | 00:10 |
| tsimpson | niko: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369877/ | 01:05 |
| tsimpson | timestamps are UTC | 01:05 |
| niko | thanks | 01:06 |
| niko | tsimpson: you must be aware, there is segfault in konversation 23:47:04 on your log | 01:06 |
| tsimpson | I did wonder what that was about | 01:07 |
| niko | i explained that to a konversation dev, i hope a fix will appears soon | 01:09 |
| tsimpson | yeah, I just read the scrollback in #konversation | 01:10 |
| tsimpson | I just noticed something interesting, +e and -e mode changes are not sent to the channel | 01:25 |
| tsimpson | nor +/-I | 01:28 |
| niko | tsimpson: umode or mode ? | 01:32 |
| tsimpson | niko: mode | 01:33 |
| tsimpson | (channel mode) | 01:33 |
| niko | #konversation so :) | 01:33 |
| tsimpson | no, I mean at all | 01:33 |
| tsimpson | not even in telnet ;) | 01:33 |
| tsimpson | the mode change is just not sent to the channel, it still applies | 01:34 |
| tsimpson | it gets send if you set the mode(s), but not to anyone else in the channel | 01:35 |
| gord | !away > n4cht_zZzZ | 04:14 |
| mnaines | Anyone here? | 05:18 |
| Myrtti | sure | 05:18 |
| mnaines | I would like to file a complaint against one of the ops | 05:19 |
| Myrtti | though Ii'm falling asleep again | 05:19 |
| mnaines | He came into ##club-ubuntu on January 31 and just started harassing me | 05:19 |
| Myrtti | mnaines: ok... | 05:19 |
| mnaines | Here's the pastebin of the logs...I basically limited it to the conversations between me and ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/369982/ | 05:20 |
| Myrtti | you realise that people are generally allowed to join any other channel, unless they are banned? | 05:26 |
| mnaines | Myrtti: I am not questioning why he was there | 05:27 |
| tsimpson | you should take it up with the ops in that channel | 05:27 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: Emma was the op in the channel at the time and actually was present during my argument with ikonia | 05:27 |
| tsimpson | so why did she not do anything about it? | 05:28 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: She is pretty much the only op in that room, and she was in damage control mode after the argument started...There wasn't much she could do except kick or ban | 05:29 |
| Myrtti | I can't see anything in those logs that I'd say is harassing. You are having an argument, it happens with people. | 05:29 |
| mnaines | Plus, there were a lot of other people trying to talk to her at the same time | 05:30 |
| tsimpson | it is up to the ops of that channel to decide what is and what is not appropriate | 05:30 |
| mnaines | Myrtti: The thing that concerns me is the lack of self-discipline among the ops in here...Those logs are an example that some individuals need to learn when to keep quiet and just smile and nod | 05:30 |
| Myrtti | excuse me? eh. right. | 05:31 |
| tsimpson | just because someone happens to be an op in an Ubuntu channel does not mean they are no longer entitled to have an opinion or express that opinion | 05:32 |
| Myrtti | :-) *shake head* zzZzZZ | 05:32 |
| tsimpson | as to if it was correct or not to do so, in that channel and in that way, is up to those channel ops | 05:32 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: I'm not disagreeing there. I'm simply saying if I was an op in another channel, I would try to behave more like an ambassador | 05:32 |
| mnaines | Like, if emma gave me op privileges in ##c-u, and I went into #ubuntu, I'd basically have to be on my best behavior because I would be representing ##c-u | 05:33 |
| mnaines | If I had a disagreement, I would take it to IM and voice it there | 05:34 |
| tsimpson | I would expect you to follow the rules regardless of your access in another channel | 05:34 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: And one of those rules is be polite | 05:34 |
| mnaines | Of course, then you also have to consider The Golden Rule | 05:34 |
| tsimpson | then it's an issue for channel-ops | 05:34 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: Doesn't mean you guys can't talk to him and remind him of his conduct and the rules | 05:35 |
| tsimpson | if you did break the rules in #ubuntu I would no join ##c-u expecting someone to do anything about it | 05:35 |
| tsimpson | mnaines: I'm not familiar with the rules in ##club-ubuntu, so I can't remind him of them | 05:36 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: If I was in your position and someone from ##c-u was causing trouble in #ubuntu, not only would I discipline them in #ubuntu, I would go over to ##c-u and explain the situation then see if they could talk to the guy and tell him to chill out | 05:36 |
| tsimpson | following that logic, I should then complain to network staff, because they also use freenode? | 05:37 |
| tsimpson | just because they are in a certain channel, does not mean it has anything to do with that channel | 05:38 |
| tsimpson | if someones behaviour does not comply with the rules of a channel they are in, it should be dealt with in that channel | 05:38 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: I am not disagreeing. I am simply saying "hey. We had a report you argued with someone in another channel. I know there are cases where you might have a disagreement of opinion, but next time could you tone it down a bit or at least take it to IM so everyone else in that channel is not being distracted?" would be a good way to solve the issue | 05:39 |
| tsimpson | now, if the operators of a channel feel that members of the Ubuntu IRC operator team, specifically, are continually breaking rules | 05:39 |
| tsimpson | they are welcome to alert us and discuss it with us | 05:39 |
| tsimpson | and we would then take appropriate action on that | 05:39 |
| mnaines | You understand my point, though, right, tsimpson, that a little friendly reminder to tone it down or take it to IM would be enough of a solution? | 05:40 |
| tsimpson | I don't really see how it is anything to do with us, at this time | 05:41 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: You may be right. If you guys don't think there was any harassment in those logs, then I shall leave | 05:41 |
| Seeker` | it is about as relevant as asking his ISP to ask him to tone things down, seeing as he is an ambassador for thier IP address | 05:41 |
| tsimpson | I do see an argument between you and ikonia, but people often disagree | 05:41 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: Yes, but I feel disagreements should be discussed in IM instead of crowding an entire channel like that | 05:42 |
| Seeker` | then tell ikonia that | 05:42 |
| Myrtti | mnaines: why didn't you then? | 05:42 |
| Myrtti | two people etc | 05:43 |
| mnaines | Myrtti: Because those logs didn't show the full story...It only showed what ikonia and I talked about. I was actually talking to more than just ikonia about those subjects | 05:43 |
| tsimpson | that stopped you from saying, "do you mind if we continue this in /msg?" | 05:44 |
| tsimpson | or simply ignoring him? | 05:44 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: Or maybe it was just a brief lapse of judgment | 05:44 |
| Myrtti | I seem to fail in logic, moar sleep | 05:44 |
| tsimpson | I'm not here to decide who was right and who was wrong, I'm just saying it doesn't involve "us" | 05:45 |
| mnaines | tsimpson: Very well. I shall go then. Thanks for clarifying things for me. | 05:45 |
| bazhang | call up British Telecom! | 05:47 |
| mneptok | bazhang: you don't "call up" BT, you "ring up" BT ;) | 07:34 |
| bazhang | mneptok, urp :) | 07:34 |
| bazhang | sprung/spree | 08:29 |
| bazhang | he was doing the same type of thing last weekend as well | 08:40 |
| mneptok | hey space lamp! want to live inside my earth house? THANKS! | 09:15 |
| Tm_T | mneptok: red 3 | 09:16 |
| mneptok | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tqJx86xQJQ | 09:16 |
| mneptok | UGLY FURNITURE! | 09:17 |
| Gary | hey mneptok | 09:17 |
| mneptok | Gary: *wriggle* | 09:19 |
| Gary | some of that furniture was nice :p | 09:19 |
| * Myrtti curses aloud | 09:19 | |
| mneptok | the teardrop filled with frog eggs? | 09:20 |
| Gary | (most of it was horrid, esp the busts and statue things) | 09:20 |
| Tm_T | Myrtti: because I just did hit my knee painfully? | 09:20 |
| Gary | mneptok: that was the best, it needed lasers tho | 09:20 |
| mneptok | SORRY! sold out! | 09:20 |
| Myrtti | Tm_T: I wont even begin to tell | 09:20 |
| Tm_T | Myrtti: I know the feeling | 09:21 |
| ikonia | ahhhh maines crying at the home truths he got.... | 09:21 |
| Myrtti | *sighhhhhhhhh* | 09:26 |
| Myrtti | right. Excuse me while I'll go wash my hair to prepare a visit to the hospital to see my father who has apparently broken his hip joint while being drunk. This is his second time doing that. | 09:47 |
| * Tm_T huggles Myrtti | 09:48 | |
| Myrtti | WHAT A BRILLIANT WEEK! | 09:48 |
| topyli | broken hip sounds like a long recovery | 09:51 |
| Tm_T | it is | 09:51 |
| topyli | a six month hangover :( | 09:51 |
| Tm_T | my mother has ... both? hipjoints replaced | 09:52 |
| Tm_T | weird that even when I and Myrtti have different parents, we are twins (;) | 10:08 |
| Tm_T | !away > [BT]Brendan | 10:09 |
| Mamarok | topyli: do you have a minute? | 11:13 |
| topyli | i might! :) | 11:14 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:40 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:40 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:40 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:40 |
| Tm_T | someone should look at that ^ | 11:41 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:47 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:47 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:47 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 11:47 |
| ikonia | banned user also trying to join | 12:09 |
| ubottu | CShadowRun called the ops in #ubuntu (limus14) | 13:52 |
| ikonia | hello heg | 14:12 |
| ikonia | heg: how can we help you | 14:13 |
| ikonia | heg: do you need anything from the ubuntu operator team/group ? | 14:22 |
| Tm_T | hi MK-BB | 16:37 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 17:01 |
| ubottu | FloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 17:01 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 17:01 |
| ubottu | FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 17:01 |
| Tm_T | ok, if you see people who has "www.cyberscript.org" or anything similar in their realname, they are not up to any good, apparently | 17:03 |
| Tm_T | I will remove those on sight, slap me if that's not desired | 17:05 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from callum_) | 17:06 |
| revolver | hi | 17:38 |
| revolver | the removal of the ban of the nick 'mkanyicy' is long overdue, whats going on | 17:40 |
| Tm_T | ouch, I cannot test if I'm vulnerable? | 17:47 |
| Tm_T | not fun ): | 17:49 |
| ubottu | ardchoille called the ops in #ubuntu (Shadowww) | 18:02 |
| ardchoille | I think Shadoww in #ubuntu needs an attitude adjustment | 18:04 |
| ubottu | IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (shad0www_) | 18:05 |
| jpds | Seriously. | 18:05 |
| jpds | !staff | shad0www being a pest and ban evading. | 18:09 |
| ubottu | shad0www being a pest and ban evading.: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :) | 18:09 |
| Tm_T | is that broad enough? | 18:10 |
| ubottu | ipatrol_ called the ops in #ubuntu () | 18:10 |
| Tm_T | !away > Oxymoron^away | 18:17 |
| jpds | We should be able to ban complete ranges like /24s. | 18:20 |
| MarkDude | Am I in the right place? I was just opped in # ubuntu-us-or | 19:07 |
| MarkDude | I have a few questions on how to practice some op commands. I was told official channels are not the place to practice. Some commands are not doable in practice channels. in | 19:12 |
| topyli | loco channel ops should loiter in #ubuntu-irc :) | 19:18 |
| MarkDude | ty topli. I will ask in there :) | 19:19 |
| kaell | unable to join #ubuntu, have changed port to 8001 | 20:04 |
| kaell | <FloodBot1> kaell: Try « /join #ubuntu » again (if that fails, see « /topic »). Please ensure that you keep using the correct connection settings. | 20:04 |
| jussi01 | hi kaell, so what does it say when you try join? | 20:09 |
| kaell | * Cannot join #ubuntu (You are banned). | 20:10 |
| jussi01 | kaell: 1 moment please | 20:10 |
| jussi01 | kaell: could you try again now please? | 20:11 |
| jussi01 | :) | 20:11 |
| kaell | works now, thanks | 20:11 |
| ubottu | Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (devfda spamming dangerous rm commands) | 20:29 |
| ubottu | Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (guest_89 is devfda, back to troll some more) | 20:34 |
| Flannel | yes Seveas, I know. | 20:34 |
| Flannel | tonyyarusso: You just did the unpossible! | 20:35 |
| * tonyyarusso shall try jumping across large gaps between building next | 20:35 | |
| tonyyarusso | But I'm sure it's safe to assume we should watch for further evasion nonsense. | 20:36 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-irc, erUSUL said: !equiv is <reply>Do not ask if we know a program similar to window's foobar just tell us what you want to do and we can suggest a program to do it. | 21:53 |
| mneptok | !fr | 21:58 |
| mneptok | ubottu: fr is Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois | 21:59 |
| ubottu | But fr already means something else! | 21:59 |
| mneptok | tsimpson / jussi01: any thoughts? | 21:59 |
| Flannel | !fr | 22:04 |
| Flannel | huh | 22:04 |
| Flannel | Can't even get info on it | 22:05 |
| Flannel | Oh, there it is. massive lag. | 22:08 |
| Flannel | !fr | 22:08 |
| ubottu | Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu\-fr\,\ ou\ \#ubuntu\-qc\ pour\ les\ Quebecois | 22:08 |
| Flannel | !fr | 22:09 |
| ubottu | Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois | 22:09 |
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