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brycehtseliot and I got X running rootless today05:57
RAOFCool.05:58
twotwentyIm having trouble isntalling XServer with no backfill on ubuntu 9.1008:46
bryceheh?08:47
twotwentyI added this line to my sources deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/xserver-no-backfill/ubuntu karmic main 08:49
twotwentybut I dont know what to install, and there are no upgrades to xserver 08:50
twotwentythis was the site I looked on, Im told it will help rendering problems with my HD 3xxx series radeon 08:51
twotwentysays it had a differently built xserver , how do I force its install?08:52
brycehtwotwenty, dpkg ${pkg}=${version}09:01
twotwentythank you 09:02
twotwentybryceh, will it be xserver core ?? to get xserver with no backfill?09:02
brycehyes09:07
brycehnight!09:07
AlanBellmerriam: I found a better upstream bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2371809:22
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by Freedesktop: timed out (http://bugs.freedesktop.org/xml.cgi?id=23718)09:22
AlanBellwut?09:22
merriamAlanBell, thanks.  Presumably that's just the invalid certificate.  http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2371810:26
ubottuFreedesktop bug 23718 in Driver/intel "[945GME] attaching external monitor causes black screen, with Compiz Fusion in Karmic" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]10:27
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AlanBellmerriam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/419328?comments=all10:56
ubottuUbuntu bug 419328 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945gme] attaching external monitor: laptop display is black, external monitor too, with frozen mouse coursor" [Unknown,Fix released]10:56
AlanBellI think that is the same bug10:56
AlanBellthe people on that bug have an issue with external monitors10:56
AlanBellI think that is because they have something like a 1024x768 screen and then add a 1024x768 screen as an external (or higher resolutions)10:57
AlanBellwe can just reproduce the issue on a single monitor10:57
AlanBellso it might be fixed in Mesa 7.7 which may or may not make it into Lucid10:58
jcristaulucid has mesa 7.7 already11:00
AlanBelljcristau: was it in Alpha 2?11:01
jcristaudunno11:02
jcristauprobably11:02
AlanBellok, I tested Alpha 2 and the issue was there, boots to a black screen11:02
AlanBellI will grab a daily and test again11:03
merriamBug 419328 looks similar but more serious in its symptoms.  I also get occasional x11 freezes with Compiz off, but the mouse cursor isn't frozen with bug 428769.11:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 419328 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "[i945gme] attaching external monitor: laptop display is black, external monitor too, with frozen mouse coursor" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/41932811:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 428769 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "compiz starts with a blank screen on a 2048x1152 monitor" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42876911:07
hyperair$ ps -C Xorg -o rsz=11:58
hyperair26817211:58
* hyperair whistles11:58
BUGabundogood afternoon guys14:26
BUGabundoI'm getting X freezes again14:26
BUGabundobug 51805814:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 518058 in linux "[lucid] system freezes after GDM with nvidia and 2.6.32-12and " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51805814:26
BUGabundoSarvatt: ^^^^^14:27
CobaltI don't have an NV card. Why do I have to have to have to install libdrm-nouveau1 as a dependency?17:22
jcristauwhy do you care?17:23
Cobaltjcristau: Clutter?17:24
CobaltAlso, if I have a 14.4kbps modem :P.17:24
CobaltStill, if it's not required... what's the need to have it there?17:25
jcristausame reason your kernel gets installed with drivers for hardware you don't have at the moment17:27
Cobaltjcristau: Somehow, that's not related to what I was saying either.17:28
Cobalt(Also, Xorg gets installed with a whole bunch of other video drivers I don't need, if you're looking for other examples).17:28
jcristauright.17:29
jcristauand one of those drivers has libdrm-nouveau as a dependency17:29
CobaltHm. Never used to be there before. I was just wondering about the change, is all, to be honest.17:34
Sarvattits not used,  its not slowing you down, and its giving you the ability to use it in the future if you ever need to instead of things just plain not working. I think you're in gentoo's target audience if you care about that 17k of hdd space being wasted :)17:36
CobaltHahaha. No, not a Gentoo afficionado.17:37
Sarvattyou can remove the xserver-xorg-video-all as well as the xserver-xorg-video-* drivers you dont use though to to free up some space17:39
CobaltI need space in the order of GBs. Not KBs. :( Micromanagement is not really going to help me. I might have been concerned if my EeePC had a SSD. But I've got a hard disk.17:40
Sarvattwell if you were on a 14.4k modem and didn't want to update stuff you dont need rather17:41
CobaltFortunately, I've got a 512kbps line. :D17:41
tjaaltonbryceh: I merged xserver 1.7.4 yesterday, so please rebase -1u12 against it :)17:58
AlanBelljcristau: Lucid daily boots to a black screen on a 2048 wide monitor :-(18:52
CobaltSince your monitor is now a brick you can give it to me.20:03
AlanBellwhen you pry it from my cold dead fingers :-)20:13
bjsniderAlanBell, what did the intel guys say in the irc channel?21:44
AlanBellbjsnider: nothing whatsoever21:46
AlanBellI am not sure how to validate whether the fix suggested in http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23718 is in Lucid and not working, or not in Lucid.21:48
ubottuFreedesktop bug 23718 in Driver/intel "[945GME] attaching external monitor causes black screen, with Compiz Fusion in Karmic" [Critical,Resolved: fixed]21:48
bjsnidermeaning what, that you asked them about it and no one responded?21:49
AlanBellyes, no response21:49
bjsniderwell, it was friday night21:49
AlanBellI haven't updated them on the Lucid daily test result though21:49
AlanBellwill do that now21:49
AlanBelland now I have21:52

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