[01:10] <titan_ark> .
[02:34] <nikolam> .
[05:31] <Balsaq> good morning resident coders of xubuntu.
[05:48] <bazhang> Balsaq, hi
[06:17] <Balsaq> yellow bazhang!
[06:17] <bazhang> hehe
[06:18] <Balsaq> your name is not highlighted yet you can speak?
[06:20] <bazhang> you mean marked away?
[06:23] <Balsaq> yes, and it is light color as though you are not present
[06:24] <bazhang> well it keeps people guessing whether I am here or not :)
[07:06] <Balsaq> Sysy-!!!
[07:06] <Balsaq> Sysi-!
[07:23] <bazhang> Balsaq, if you get back on the linux ubuntu box you might try chanserv.py with xchat
[07:24] <bazhang> Balsaq, ie for your own channel
[07:24] <Balsaq> hmmm why is that
[07:24] <Balsaq> actually xubuntu had one built right in
[07:25] <Balsaq> nice one
[07:25] <bazhang> ah okay
[07:25] <bazhang> chanserv.py is written by Seveas, one of the Ubuntu IRC early mavens
[07:25] <Balsaq> maybe it is the one you mentioned..i installed it thru the terminal i think
[07:26] <bazhang> lets you use lots of simple commands to set topic, and other things you need to do with far fewer commands/typing etc
[07:26] <Balsaq> i will read about that one...sounds different actually
[07:26] <Balsaq> link?
[07:26] <bazhang> first hit on google
[07:26] <bazhang> chanserv.py
[07:28] <Balsaq> got it up on my laptop next to me
[07:28] <Balsaq> kaarsemaker
[07:29] <bazhang> just copy that to ~/.xchat2 folder
[07:32] <Sysi-> morning Balsaq
[07:33] <Balsaq> Sysi- !!!  Supreme Master Xubuntu Techician Dude!
[07:34] <Sysi-> or not :p
[07:35] <Sysi-> or maybe i just know too 1337 debian hackers
[07:37] <Balsaq> my problem is....my xubuntu 904 computer never breaks! so i never learn how to fix xubuntu!
[07:38] <Sysi-> following irc and forums is pretty good way
[07:41] <Balsaq> i wish i could write code
[07:41] <Balsaq> would love to write code for xubuntu
[07:43] <Balsaq> now it seems like they are trying to best xubuntu with lubuntu or stuff like that
[08:57] <syn-ack> Good morning people... Could someone please tell me exactly how much XFCE4 in Xubuntu differs from the mainline distribution? The Documentation at xfce's site doesn't seem to match up with what's in this at all
[09:00] <syn-ack> Nevermind. I see what it is. this is version 4.6... I'll shut up and eat crow. :/
[09:08] <balvonas> syn-ack: not much differs
[09:15] <syn-ack> yeah, I figured out why the XFCE docs wern't working. ;)
[13:20] <valentinex> all here are xubuntu users?
[13:21] <valentinex> i have installed a new PCI sound card, how to activate in my xubuntu?
[13:21] <valentinex> ping
[13:21] <valentinex> buzz
[13:21] <valentinex> buzz | all
[13:22] <valentinex> :(
[13:25] <knome> !patience | valentinex
[13:26] <valentinex> ubottu
[13:26] <valentinex> tnx
[13:33] <valentinex> how to check these
[13:33] <valentinex> Does the device /dev/dsp exist?
[13:33] <valentinex> Are you a member of the group "audio"? (check /etc/group)
[13:33] <valentinex> Can you send something directly to the sound device, like
[13:33] <valentinex> $ cat /var/log/kern.log > /dev/dsp8
[13:34] <knome> 1. does 'ls /dev/dsp' give you any output in terminal?
[13:35] <knome> 2. is your username in 'cat /etc/group | grep audio' output in terminal?
[13:35] <knome> 3. does the command issued give error messages?
[13:37] <valentinex> oh its working fine now, actually the PCI card is of so low quality giving low sound ... card problem :(
[13:38] <valentinex> how to choose my PCI card as default system sound device in xubuntu?
[13:56] <Psilocybin_Elf> Maybe go into your sound settings I think?
[14:13] <LetsGo67> My LAN-hosted HTTP server is slow! How do I speed it up, please?
[14:16] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: be more specific
[14:16] <LetsGo67> TheSheep: tu parles français?
[14:16] <TheSheep> nope
[14:16] <knome> !fr | LetsGo67
[14:16] <LetsGo67> 30 seconds within the LAN, 5 seconds via proxy; to load a HTML document with lots of graphics.
[14:16] <LetsGo67> Ne fonctionne pas.
[14:16] <knome> ymm
[14:16] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: static content?
[14:17] <LetsGo67> TheSheep define "static content".  It's not DHTML.
[14:17] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: is it generated on the server side, or just kept in files?
[14:23] <LetsGo67> Kept in files.
[14:25] <LetsGo67> TheSheep?
[14:27] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: I'd use top to see what's making the server so busy
[14:27] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: it should serve static files really fast
[14:28] <LetsGo67> TheSheep: "top" on the server itself, or on remote PC?
[14:31] <TheSheep> LetsGo67: on the server
[14:44] <LetsGo67> TheSheep top doesn't work on my server.
[14:45] <TheSheep> how so?
[14:46] <LetsGo67> Command not found.  Anyway.  I can ping from the client to the sever.
[14:46] <LetsGo67> But I cannot ping from the server to the client.
[14:47] <TheSheep> just install it
[14:47] <LetsGo67> I don't know how.
[14:47] <TheSheep> I thought that top is installed by default on xubuntu
[14:47] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get install top
[14:47] <LetsGo67> This is an old computer.  It can't handle much.  It's not Xubuntu but I asked here just in case.
[14:48] <TheSheep> what is it then?
[14:48] <LetsGo67> A lightweight distro of some sort.
[14:48] <knome> asking a wrong channel "just in case" isn't particularly wise.
[14:48] <knome> doesn't help you much and we can't really help you
[14:48] <LetsGo67> It's all I can do.
[14:49] <LetsGo67> Is 104ms any good?
[14:49] <knome> no
[14:49]  * TheSheep gets bored and goes away
[14:49] <knome> yeah
[14:49] <LetsGo67> It's all I can get.
[14:49]  * knome too
[14:50] <knome> i'm sorry, but this is not the right place.
[14:50] <knome> ask ##linux
[14:50] <knome> or sth
[14:50] <LetsGo67> Doesn't anyone own a server?
[14:50] <knome> that's a completely different thing.
[14:51] <LetsGo67> Why is it slow on the LAN but fast on the web?
[14:55] <LetsGo67> Could it be Wi-Fi?
[15:25] <LetsGo67> Thanks a lot.
[16:52] <Balsaq> good morning xubuntu developers, coders, engineers and casual observers!
[16:54] <likemindead> (Mostly lurkers.)
[17:03] <Balsaq> one thing i added to my xubuntu computer was bleachbit. when i am done using the computer i run bleachbit. it is supposed to help keep the computer in a "fresh instal'' state. Seems to be working.
[17:04] <rascal999> how do i enable bluetoth?
[17:06] <likemindead> !bluetooth
[17:15] <nwadawg> hi all
[17:19] <likemindead> What're the current favorite emulators for NES, SNES, & Genesis?
[17:51] <Hammercat> hhay i have got a problem
[17:52] <Hammercat> at a site where i want multi upload : it asks for a plugin but the plugin finder cant find them
[17:54] <likemindead> In Firefox? What is it?
[17:55] <Hammercat> when i use : firefox
[17:55] <Hammercat> at a site
[17:55] <Hammercat>  and i will do a multi upload he ask for a plugin but the finder cant find the plug in but last time he did normal (the firefox
[19:25] <syn-ack> Got a weird issue going on with Xubuntu... Seems that when cold booting, when it gets to the point of loading the Window Manager, that I get weird "writing" of chars to VT 7, thus forcing me to have to log into the system via VT1 and restarting gdm afterwhich it loads everything just fine.
[19:26] <syn-ack> I haven't been able to trace it back to anything particular and admittedly, I have not checked the forums yet, I thought I'd try here and see if anyone else has had this issue, and if not, I'll file a bug report on it
[19:57] <red> heya! i migrated from ubuntu to xubuntu and have a little problem with fstab and not getting my stuff mounted automatically
[19:58] <red> this workden in ubuntu: /dev/sda3       /media/Red              ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000       0        0
[19:58] <red> however, once I rebooted, nothing appeared in xubuntu
[19:59] <red> wrong syntax or missing some package?
[19:59] <Sysi> we talked about this at #ubuntu-fi?
[19:59] <red> aye
[20:00] <Sysi> fstab-level should work still..
[20:00] <red> I went for a fresh install after I figured out tearing problems and worked fine in xubuntu desktop
[20:00] <red> but wanted a fresh install :)
[20:00] <red> everything else runs fine
[20:01] <Sysi> do those folders where you have selected to mount exist?
[20:01] <red> Sysi: was there something else to it that I forgot then mhh?
[20:02] <red> ill create the folders and try a remount, could be it since it was required in netbook remix of ubuntu aswell
[20:03] <red> and that was it, ty for making me remember it as a side effect :>
[20:20] <slow-motion> hi
[21:37] <red> using blueman to pair up a bluetooth device (phone) but it won't send nor receive the call for pairing with a number
[21:42] <titan_ark> hello =)
[21:48] <titan_ark> i wanted to know how i can set up ssh. need to do that and tunnling etc to access my school unix system. on windows i used putty and tight vnc
[21:50] <TheSheep> titan_ark: open a terminal and type 'ssh username@adres'
[21:50] <TheSheep> titan_ark: that's all
[21:51] <titan_ark> TheSheep: okay thank you. shall try
[21:58] <titan_ark> TheSheep: what about the need to tunnel, etc for security?
[22:03] <TheSheep> titan_ark: there are some good howtos on ssh port forwarding
[22:03] <TheSheep> titan_ark: google for it
[22:03] <titan_ark> TheSheep: okay. will do
[22:03] <titan_ark> thx a bunch
[22:26] <titan_ark> TheSheep: why is it that i cant connect to my school server through any other port but 22? and i see that 22 is supposed to be insecure
[23:04] <gnubie> cannot find where I can change the default DVD movie player to vlc
[23:05] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: it is because that is the way the school set it up
[23:05] <charlie-tca> You can not change the port from your end
[23:23] <titan_ark> charlie-tca: ah okay.
[23:23] <slow-motion> n8
[23:24] <titan_ark> charlie-tca: i cant seem to do anything else besides installing putty and xvnc4vewer, but i cant resize the window. its too small
[23:25] <charlie-tca> Don't know much about that. I don't use any of it except ssh myself
[23:26] <charlie-tca> I know you are always the client, in the documentation. The school is the server, and you won't be able to make any changes to the server, most likely.
[23:27] <knome> hello charlie :)
[23:30] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome :-)
[23:30] <charlie-tca> How are you today?
[23:30] <knome> fine! starting to get over the busiest times
[23:31] <charlie-tca> Great! Always good to be busy, before the calm
[23:31] <knome> yeah, i suppose so. i can see more busy stuff coming in the next week again, though..
[23:32] <knome> i think this is what you get when you study and run a business parallely
[23:32] <charlie-tca> there is always more, just ahead, isn't there?
[23:32] <knome> yeah, that's painfully true :P
[23:32] <charlie-tca> It is not easy to try to study and run a business at the same time.
[23:32] <charlie-tca> they are both full-time things
[23:33] <knome> yeah. or at least almost ;)
[23:33] <knome> you can skip some classes
[23:34] <charlie-tca> Hey, did we have a xubuntu usplash theme in karmic?
[23:34] <knome> yeah. the one with the white mice.
[23:35] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah. okay.
[23:35] <knome> well, a white mouse actually.
[23:37] <titan_ark> charlie-tca: okay =) thank you
[23:37] <charlie-tca> np, wish I could help more
[23:37] <Sachse_Siechtum>  I dont have sound in enemy territory
[23:38] <knome> Sachse_Siechtum, that's good, since you have to remain silent when sneak attacking.
[23:38] <Sachse_Siechtum> LOL...
[23:38] <titan_ark> charlie-tca: yes i have another request then :P i am presently using a kde version. i wanted to get the xfce or gnome interface too because i seem to find this too cluttered.
[23:38] <knome> titan_ark, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[23:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> no really once I had sound... when I used these commands: sudo killall esd
[23:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> sudo -i
[23:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[23:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> exit
[23:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> et
[23:39] <titan_ark> knome: but wont it install all xubuntu apps also? it would be huge!
[23:39] <Sachse_Siechtum> but it doesnt work anymore
[23:39] <charlie-tca> titan_ark: yes, it will. But it would let you use xfce then
[23:39] <ron_o> titan_ark, not that huge, and with Synaptic before you download it will tell how big everything is..
[23:40] <ron_o> probably under 100MB.
[23:40] <titan_ark> charlie-tca, ron_o: okay. shall give it a try.
[23:40] <titan_ark> and how difficult would it be to remove everything later if i want to
[23:41] <ron_o> should be as easy as downloading it.
[23:41] <titan_ark> ron_o: whoa it says 690 MB of space will be used for install!
[23:41] <ron_o>  titan_ark it won't.
[23:42] <ron_o> but if it does then don't install it is all.
[23:42] <ron_o> rather, if it's too big for you then don't. That's what linux is about; choice.
[23:42] <titan_ark> well thats what it says and is asking for confirmation [Y/N]
[23:42] <titan_ark> hmmm
[23:42] <ron_o> 690 MB?
[23:43] <titan_ark> how can i check how much free space i have?
[23:43] <titan_ark> ron_o: yes 691 to be precise
[23:43] <ron_o> that sounds ridiculous..
[23:43] <titan_ark> 0 upgraded, 333 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:43] <titan_ark> Need to get 152MB of archives
[23:43] <titan_ark> thats what it says
[23:43] <ron_o> well, 152MB? And then what?
[23:43] <titan_ark> After this operation, 691MB of additional disk space will be used.
[23:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> starting ET I get this in the terminal: ------- sound initialization -------
[23:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[23:43] <Sachse_Siechtum> Could not open /dev/dsp
[23:44] <ron_o> wow.,, I find that hard to believe. But it says what it says. So don't d/l it.
[23:44] <titan_ark> ron_o: :D okay. is there a terminal way to check whats the size of the partition i have kubuntu installed and how much is free?
[23:45] <knome> ron_o, the mileage from kde to xfce is probably way bigger then from gnome to xfce
[23:45] <ron_o> titan_ark, $ df -H
[23:45] <ron_o> knome, yah... no doubt.
[23:46] <titan_ark> ron_o: whoa a basic install of kubuntu has taken 7.3 gigs :O
[23:47] <titan_ark> and i hardly have much data on this boot!
[23:47] <ron_o> yah, K--anything is a monster.
[23:48] <titan_ark> lol
[23:48] <ron_o> I think on xubuntu it took around 100MB just to install K3b..
[23:48] <knome> like knome
[23:48] <knome> ;]
[23:48]  * charlie-tca thinks 7gb for kubuntu sounds about right. Xubuntu takes a good 1.5GB now
[23:48] <titan_ark> i was hearing alot about kde and so thought i would give it a try
[23:48] <titan_ark> lol knome
[23:48] <ron_o> titan_ark, you can try xubuntu in a virtual OS to give it a try and see if you like it.
[23:49] <titan_ark> charlie-tca: hmmm as bloated as windows :S
[23:49] <charlie-tca> let's hope not, titan_ark
[23:49] <titan_ark> ron_o: i have tried it before and liked it on my age old box. since i have a new notebook i thought i had the resources to spare
[23:49] <charlie-tca> Hell, windows is going to fix a 17-year old bug next week! Yay microsoft!
[23:49] <titan_ark> charlie-tca: :D
[23:50] <charlie-tca> And they say they are slow
[23:50] <knome> charlie-tca, which one?
[23:50] <knome> charlie-tca, maybe removing windows from the market?
[23:50] <charlie-tca> IE; believe the one google reported
[23:51] <knome> link?
[23:51] <titan_ark> how difficult is it to recompile the kernel with a patch for a noob?
[23:51] <knome> titan_ark, probably something you don't want to do.
[23:51] <Sachse_Siechtum> what kinda bug?
[23:52] <titan_ark> knome: i am facing trouble with my power management. the bug fix is available but needs a recompile :P
[23:52] <titan_ark> knome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/453963
[23:54] <knome> titan_ark, well, there *are* debs in http://turtle.wastelands.net/dragon/stuff/
[23:56] <titan_ark> knome: yes i see, but they are external links
[23:56] <knome> titan_ark, true. but either you install those, recompile your kernel and kill your brain or wait
[23:56] <titan_ark> and i am also not sure, if i do this will i get kernel updates and would i have to patch them also
[23:56] <titan_ark> knome: :D yeah
[23:57] <knome> well, new kernels from the ubuntu repositories should have that patch as well
[23:57] <knome> starting from a release i don't know, so it might be a few releases before it gets included
[23:58] <titan_ark> well the latest 31-19 doesnt
[23:58] <titan_ark> i just updated 2 days back and i still face the problem
[23:59] <knome> yeah - as i said, you can wait
[23:59] <knome> i don't think it will take too much time, but if you need it NOW...
[23:59] <titan_ark> hmmm true
[23:59] <titan_ark> i guess il be patient :)