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falehi00:09
faleRiddell: ping00:09
Lex79fale: I think he's in travel00:15
faleLex79: oh cool, thank you00:16
faleI'll get him tomorrow or monday, then ;)00:16
Lex79you're welcome, prego fale ;)00:17
faleLex79: are you it-m?00:18
Lex79yeah :)00:18
faleLex79: oh, cool :)00:18
Lex79:)00:18
vorianping ninjas02:04
nixternali am wearing my ninja pajamas, does that make me a ninja?02:05
* vorian was wondering what needs doing02:06
voriani was just following the /topics instructions :)02:06
dhillon-v10nixternal: hi there :) I would like to help out as well so anything for me besides docs.02:13
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ejatis the libqtcore 4.6.1 on build ?11:26
faleRiddell: ping ;)13:32
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siegieAre there any plans to package Qt 4.6.1 for karmic, Or does it come together with the final version kde 4.4.17:37
siegiebecause Qt 4.6 is the cause for some plasma chrashes.17:38
fm how to recover default desktop in kubuntu ?17:48
fm i deleted it but i was not on purpose17:49
ulyssesfm: rm -r .kde/ ?17:49
fmok i will try17:51
siegiefm: that deletes also the mail off kmail, your settings/log in kopete etc...17:53
fmand how can i recover then?17:54
siegiefm: I normally just move the folder .kde, and copy the stuff i need back.17:58
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* e-jat agreed with siegie18:05
e-jatlibqtcore :(18:05
e-jat4.6.118:05
fm"rm -rf .kde " this command does't seem to work. where am wrong18:07
Riddellfale: you pinged?18:20
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faleRiddell: yes, wanted to show you this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/LucidPatchReview18:21
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seeleRiddell: when is your flight to DC?18:24
seelewhat airport are you flying into? above ground metro is still closed18:24
Riddellseele: latest one is from seattle and gets in at 06:25 tomorrow morning18:24
Riddellinto Dulles18:25
seeleer.. does the metro bus start that early in the morning?18:25
RiddellI've no idea18:25
Lex79Riddell: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle.18:25
seeleRiddell: are you taking a taxi to town?18:26
ScottKseele: It does if the weather doesn't stop it18:26
* ScottK didn't manage to leave town today 18:26
RiddellLex79: hmm ok I'll take a look in a bit, although those packages go to universe, it's only virtuoso-nepomuk I care about18:26
seeleScottK: metro is still running emergency lines only, dunno if IAD shuttle to metro counts18:27
Lex79ok18:27
Riddellseele: I haven't thought that far ahead18:27
* ScottK neither18:27
seeleand vienna is still above ground which is closed18:27
ScottKWe've got the driveway almost shoveled, but no plow yet, so even if my flight today hadn't been canceled, I couldn't have got to it.18:27
seeleRiddell: http://www.washfly.com/flyer_bus_schedule.htm18:28
seeleScottK: yeah.. havent dug out my car yet either, not looking forward to it18:28
Riddellso, any good places to go sledging in your city? :)18:29
seeledunno, ask maco18:30
seeleScottK: if your trip gets cancelled you are obligated to come to the CALUG and KDE 4.4 meet ups :)18:31
ScottKHeh.18:31
ScottKAssuming the plow comes by Thursday.18:32
seelelol18:35
seelethe governor of virginia was saying they werent going to be able to clear the roads for people to get to work until tuesday18:35
ScottKI just found out our county has a snow plow tracker.18:45
ScottKhttp://snow2.co.ho.md.us/GridMap.asp?col=6&row=418:45
ScottKIt looks like they are working on side streets, so I have some hope.18:45
seeleoh wow that's cool18:47
yuriywho did the ubuquity slides?19:12
yuriyi don't think they like konqueror enough :P19:12
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yuriyalso they need updating, where are they stored?19:12
ScottKnixternal did them IIRC.19:17
hunger_pWill there be ubuntu one for lucid/kubuntu?19:20
ScottKIf someone writes it.  apachelogger started19:20
hunger_pScottK: Nice! Hope UO will not drag half of gnome onto my system.19:22
nixternalyuriy: waiting for shtylman to update the code and get back with me on the slides...there are new slides for both desktop and netbook that have been updated19:28
yuriynixternal: oh great!19:28
yuriydo you know if he's also updating the artwork to 4.4 style air?19:28
nixternalI believe so19:29
yuriyah finally have my desktop back19:31
yuriyalbeit stuck tethering to my laptop for internet19:32
macoRiddell: there's a park near my flat where people go sledding when it snows19:38
macoRiddell, seele: buses start at 7am on weekdays19:38
macoRiddell: the washington flyer seele is referring to goes to the West Falls Church station. it's above ground. may be closed.19:39
crimsunis is closed.19:39
crimsunit's the same schedule as yesterday.19:39
crimsunright, "it is"...19:39
macocrimsun: talking about tomorrow19:40
macoi know stuff's closed today. tomorrow is still unknown19:40
crimsunwhich park? MH/MX?19:40
crimsunthat's going to be closed for sledding.19:40
crimsunif traffic is roped off, you could try 13th.19:40
macocrimsun: yes mh/mx19:40
macoyeah i saw the blogs saying there were 13th st. sledders19:41
crimsunwas kinda neat,I was out there yesterday19:41
nixternalit's great seeing places other than chicago getting sucker punched with snow :)19:42
crimsun<-- former MN resident, used to snow19:43
Tm_Tsnow? what's that?19:43
* Tm_T hides19:43
nixternalsomething that is barely covering the ground now in chicago :)19:43
nixternalyou still see the 8 to 10 foot high mounds in the parking lots, and not even an inch on the ground19:44
macomy mum called me to whinge yesterday about the lack of snow19:44
nixternalthat's good, seeing as for a solid month or two, we had no less than 2 to 3 feet of snow on the ground19:44
macolaptop battery about to go...bbl19:44
nixternalunlike the east coast though, we don't shut down19:44
nixternalno such thing as "road closed", though they do close school now when there is 4 to 6 inches, whereas when I was in school, you needed at least a foot19:45
shtylmanhas 4.4 been tagged?19:46
nixternalin my 12 years of schooling back then, we had 1 snow day...just 1, and it was really do to the fact that not only did we get a bit of snow, but we also got severe thunderstorms with it, which was the weirdest thing I ever saw19:46
Riddellshtylman: yes19:46
seeleFUCKING CAPS19:48
seeleargh19:48
seelefuck ovechkin19:49
shtylmanRiddell: cool.... any reason to suspect that your kdebase packages are broken right now?19:49
shtylmanI installed updates and the kdm/ethais folder has only a wallpapers folder19:49
shtylmanand nothing else19:49
shtylmanobviously this causes kdm to puke itself19:49
* yuriy is glad someone is swearing about hockey today19:49
seeleas opposed to football? hehe19:50
Riddellshtylman: yes that's broken, I was just about to look at it19:51
shtylmanRiddell: gotcha... ok ... so im not insane :)19:51
Riddellgosh, seele has turned into an angry person, what's going on?19:52
seeleRiddell: eh?19:52
crimsunyour enthusiasm, I think.19:53
seelei wouldnt call enthusiasm for hockey a new personality trait19:54
Riddellhmm, this sounds like organised sport19:54
nixternalseele: GO BLACKHAWKS!19:55
nixternalthe caps, pfft19:55
Riddelloh no, it's spreading19:56
seeleGO PENS!19:56
seelefuck the caps19:56
* yuriy checks if there's a game today19:56
nixternalI remember their first season, as I was living there then, and their entire team was made up of boston bruins members from the year before19:56
nixternalthey had joey juneau, one of my all-time favorite players19:56
crimsunstupid pens.19:56
crimsungo canes! oh wait...19:56
nixternalhehe19:57
yuriyoh nice, in 3 minutes. GO BRUINS19:57
RiddellI feel so left out, I'm not watching anyone play games and I have no urge to should abuse at anyone19:59
nixternalyuriy: the Bruins are better actors than they are hockey players :p20:00
yuriyi feel the urge to shoud abuse at Gigabyte and Netgear20:01
nixternalthough, I would never disrespect the bruins while in boston20:01
seelenixternal: that would mean death20:01
nixternalI learned the hard way many years ago20:01
shtylmanRiddell: im with you :)20:02
shtylmanRiddell: although...I might watch the super bowl today for the commercials20:02
Riddellcan't these pens and caps and whatnot sit down over a nice cup of tea and resolve their differences?20:02
shtylmanhahaha20:02
Riddellshtylman: ah what a country you have, the most important event in my two week stay where is adverts20:03
yuriyok I don't undestand this. how do all but 7 teams in the league have winning records?20:03
yuriymaybe i'm missing OTLs20:03
yuriyyeah i guess that's it20:04
persiashtylman: If you want to avoid all the sport, http://www.superbowl-ads.com/ tends to get things fairly quickly.20:04
yuriymodern hockey stats are weird20:04
nixternalshtylman: that's why I watch the super bowl...the commercials rock20:04
Riddelland american's wonder why nobody appreciates their culture20:05
nixternalwe don't even appreciate our culture20:05
seelehockey and tea?20:06
seelenot everyone is an easy convert to quakerism20:06
nixternallol20:06
shtylmanheh20:07
shtylmanpersia: good call20:07
seelei think hulu is going to have a superbowl ads channel too you can go to watch them20:08
nixternal"If these systems "phase" together, or become one larger system, a major snow event of 6 to 10 inches will be likely."  -- shit, I jinxed myself earlier poking fun at you east coasters20:08
seelenixternal: 6-10 inches? oh please20:08
nixternal6 to 10 inches means a foot and a half at least due to the lake effect20:08
RiddellI knew I should have packed my hat20:08
seeleok, that's more like it20:08
seeleRiddell: i hope you have more than just a jumper to keep warm :P20:09
* Tm_T has 40-60 cm snow here <320:09
nixternalseele: you guys only had 2 major snowstorms, where the first melted in just over a week there....we had 2 to 3 feet for almost 2 months here20:09
nixternalwe just had most of ours melt with just about an inch falling yesterday20:09
seelenixternal: washington dc isn't exactly equiped for persistant cold weather conditions20:09
crimsunit isn't if Riddell can't pop down and buy another jumper ;)20:09
nixternalyou can still see the grass, which is quite ugly20:09
crimsunas if *20:09
seelewhere a foot of snow is usually managed within 12 hours, it shuts down the city for two days here20:10
seelecrimsun: Riddell wouldnt even go buy new shoes when his broke20:10
nixternalseele: I don't know they aren't....I lived there for the ice storm in 94, the blizzard of 96 which was more than the 2 major ones this season, and then they have these 2 back to back punches20:10
seelenixternal: we were out of salt and a million over our snow management budget by December 5th20:11
seelei would say they arent :)20:11
nixternalhahaha20:11
nixternalwe had that last year here in chicago20:11
Riddelloh I'm sorry for wanting to repair my belongings before using up earths valuable resources buying new ones!20:11
nixternalit just sounds like the east coast didn't catch up this season20:11
nixternalRiddell: don't be sorry, I do the same thing, but it isn't for the earth, it is because I am a cheapskate20:11
Riddellwhat was I saying about American culture? :)20:12
nixternalhaha20:12
seeleif people would get over not wearing leather, their shoes would last longer than the fake plastic alternatives20:12
nixternalyou need to head into the inner cities here if you want to see culture20:12
nixternalI wear adidas, they last longer than all20:13
seelenixternal: should i drop him off in PG County or Baltimore City for a night? ;)20:13
nixternali still wear a pair of adidas from the early 90s20:13
crimsunthe latter20:13
seelelol20:13
nixternalseele: SE DC on the PG border20:13
crimsunPG is on the up, didn't you hear/read? ;)20:13
seelei have a pair of docs from high school20:13
nixternalthough BC is pretty bad, but I just never witnessed it20:13
crimsunSE is actually nicer than PG in many parts20:13
seelenixternal: foreigners are scared of BC because of The Wired, hehe20:13
seelecrimsun: gentrification projects imo20:14
nixternalI worked a part time security gig when I was in the Navy, and they made me work at a strip mall in PG county...needless to say, I was scared shitless20:14
shtylmanRiddell: you are just jealous cause you don't have an SUV :p20:14
RiddellI've seen the Wire, I know how to talk Baltimore, I could manage that, I'll convert them all to free software20:14
crimsunI lived in an ok part of PG; nothing freaky to report (though a few people got mugged after I met them)20:14
seeleshtylman: hey.. there are some places in this country where a SUV is useful20:14
shtylmanheheh20:15
nixternalcrimsun: yeah, the southern part of PG is nice, by the naval time center or whatever it is called20:15
crimsunhmm, no strong correlation after people getting mugged and me meeting them. I hope not, at least.20:15
nixternaltom clancy lives in PG County, been to his house...he has a tank and ch-60 (blackhawk) helicoptor in his front yard20:16
nixternalI have only been mugged by shotgun on MARTA in Atlanta20:17
seelenixternal: s/house/bunker?20:17
nixternaland once at Maxwell Street in Chicago, when I was in like 9th grade...jumped me, and stole my damn clothes...left me in my underwear and a pair of socks, just for the old North Carolina Michael Jordan jump suit20:17
nixternalseele: no, it is a really nice house..he is a military author so he has them setup like a museum20:18
seelei swear i thought he lived in a bunker20:18
seele(i know who tom clancy is)20:18
nixternaloh, he is actually in Calvert County, Huntington20:19
Riddellso this superbowl thing, when is it?20:20
nixternalerr, prince fred, not huntington20:21
seeleRiddell: 3 hours i think20:21
shtylmanRiddell: its an all day event for some people20:22
shtylmanthe sports channels talk about it forever20:22
persiaDoesn't the actual game start in about three hours?20:22
shtylmanyea20:22
shtylmansomething like that20:22
neversfelde2 h 37 min20:22
nixternal5:30pm kickoff here in chicago, which is about 3 hours20:23
neversfeldeso how long is a halftime?20:24
shtylmanI think the Who are playing20:24
shtylmanits 30min?20:24
neversfeldeyes20:25
shtylmaniirc20:25
neversfeldewaiting for that20:25
Riddellyou guys are really serious about these adverts aren't you?20:25
seelewho is the halftime show?20:25
crimsunRiddell: if it isn't already obvious, yes.20:25
shtylmanRiddell: you have no idea20:25
seeleRiddell: yes, it's the reason why a lot of people watch the superbowl20:25
neversfeldenot that I am not interested in football, but I do not know the rules enough to join the fun ;)20:25
seeleit's the biggest day in advertising20:25
shtylmanRiddell: they are some of the best ads20:25
crimsunwhat seele typed.20:25
nixternalseele: yes, the who is the halftime show :)20:26
nixternalwho is on first?20:26
Riddellbut adverts aren't good things, they're the annoying bits you go and turn the kettle on during!20:26
nixternalRiddell: yes, but not for the superbowl, as they are all first timers typically, and they go all out and make them funny most of the time20:26
neversfeldearen't there only ads about chips and beer?20:26
nixternalI love the new e*trade baby one20:26
yuriyRiddell: because of the audience and cost of the ad space, the ad creators put a lot of money and creativity into these ads, so it becomes like watching a pretty good TV show20:27
nixternaloh, and puxatony polamalu one is hillarious20:27
crimsunhow about the google one?20:28
nixternaldidn't see that one20:28
Riddellhow are you talking about these things if you haven't already seen them?20:29
nixternalcrimsun: seems that the google one is top secret and will air in the 3rd quarter, and the quote from google is "Hell has indeed frozen over."20:29
shtylmanyea20:30
shtylmanim looking forward to that one20:30
shtylmancould be good20:30
nixternalRiddell: they provide teasers the day or so before20:30
crimsunnixternal: a couple sites (techcrunch, engadget) have linked to spoilers20:30
Riddell!20:30
nixternalshtylman: I am guessing it will be Chrome OS and maybe a tablet?20:30
Riddellyou have adverts for adverts?!20:30
nixternalhaha yeah20:30
nixternalRiddell: you know, that Americal Culture is amazing :p20:30
nixternalAmerican rather20:30
crimsunRiddell: is that so surprising? We make money from speculating about debt FFS.20:30
nixternalthis is america, where it is illegal in most places to gamble a few bucks on the game today, but it is perfectly fine to gamble your life savings in the stock market20:31
yuriyRiddell: lmao20:31
yuriyyes.20:31
shtylmannixternal: now that would be something new...20:32
shtylmanyou could be right tho20:32
Riddelland not only do you have adverts about adverts but you go out of your way to watch them so you know what is going to be advertised during a sports event you don't even care about20:32
persiaRiddell: You may find it instructive to watch the archive of adverts from past years to better understand (see link I posted earlier)20:32
nixternalyou are gambling with stocks, you are placing money on a stock betting it will win, therefor making you money20:32
nixternalI did a paper on it in college, and it really pissed off my conservative professor20:33
nixternalI wonder if we will see a Toyota commercial? :p20:33
persiaThe complete list if available.  Mostly hyundai, IIRC, but check the listing to be sure.20:34
persias/if/is/20:34
Riddellis this thing on only one channel?20:35
shtylmanI think so20:35
shtylmancause its a big deal20:35
shtylmanfor the channel showing it20:36
shtylman(ad revenue)20:36
persiaThere's sometimes a couple different channels, depending on how the rights are allocated, and how many countries you can access.20:36
yuriynixternal: i've been laughing at toyota commercials every time the last week20:38
persiaIndeed.  No Toyota this year.20:39
nixternalyeah, poor toyota...i think when the results come out, ford will now be number 1 and toyoto will either move down 1 or 2 spots in rankings20:40
nixternalhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzIdZbypNk  <- I love this one20:43
Riddellrankings?20:43
nixternalRiddell: toyota is the #1 auto manufacturer in the world20:43
nixternalbut after their massive recall, they will probably be #2 or #320:44
Riddellah, number of cars sold20:44
nixternalthey are losing like 200+ million dollars a day in the united states alone20:44
nixternalright, and right now they can't sell more than half of their fleet20:44
Riddellyet another kdebase-runtime tar20:48
Tm_TRiddell: hopefully last one20:50
* Tm_T is eagerly waiting that he can yell "it's out!" (:20:52
Riddellseele: did we win the hockey?21:48
seeleRiddell: no, when i said FUCK THE CAPS, that should have been a clue to the outcome21:48
Riddelloh I see, I'm sorry for your loss21:49
seeleovechkin is a beast21:49
seelecrosby+malkin still isnt enough21:49
seelecan't wait to see what happens in the olympics though, canada is going to be hot21:49
seelei want to see canada+sweden in the final21:49
crimsunI'll miss the Olympics by a short couple weeks :(21:50
shtylmanseele: I read "FUCK THE CAPS" as fuck caps lock... hmmm :)21:50
seeleshtylman: no, the yelling was on purpose :)21:51
shtylmanseele: indeed... realized in retrospect21:51
sghHi!21:52
Riddellhi sgh, let me reassure you we are all hard at work on Kubuntu even if some of us blasmpheme about organised sport21:52
shtylmanRiddell speaks lies21:53
sghRiddell: that ok. I will rephrase my questing into a reaching hand then. Apparently NM has stopped working since alpha2. If there is anything I can do, please tell.21:55
sghRiddell: somehow after looking at the history I think that shtylman is right..... :D21:58
Riddellmy knetworkmanager has been working fine all week except today when it suddently stopped working21:59
RiddellI haven't heard other complaints and I haven't been able to look into it yet21:59
sghRiddell: ok. I think it maybe related to kde. Cause daemon.log looks okay. knetworkmanager says "Network management disabled". Which is obiously not correct.22:03
Riddellsgh: trying network-manager-gnome is the first way to test that22:05
ScottKWorking here as of yesterday.22:06
Riddellmoving ~/.kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc and restarting is another quick check22:07
sghRiddell: Fresh user is does not work, so networkmanagementrc seems so be not guilty.22:08
sgh_Riddell: Ok ,,, worked. gnome.network-manager hade a switch on the ui. "Enable networking". After flipping that switch on the KDE network-manager worked againg. Also worked after a reboot.22:20
Riddellhum22:20
Riddellbut why would it be turned off in the first place?22:20
crimsunRiddell: looks like you might have a chance to fly into IAD22:34
Riddellit's not been cancelled yet22:37
crimsunlucky you22:39
verbalshadowRiddell: having to use nm-applet to enable network management has happen to me as well22:39
ScottKcrimsun: How's it look for getting out of DCA tomorrow?22:42
* shtylman upgraded my work computer to kubuntu lucid22:48
shtylmannow trying to get everything working22:48
Riddellshtylman: what broke?22:49
shtylmanRiddell: besides kdm... there were random packages (plasma-desktop) missing for some reason...but nothing major...22:49
shtylmanmost of the work is nut kubuntu related22:50
shtylmanjust getting all the network mounts and whatnot working22:50
shtylmans/nut/not22:50
shtylmanbut overall it is working :)22:50
Riddellhmm, cheesy song on this organised sport thing23:19
Riddellooh they're american, good thing they had a flag the size of a football pitch to remind me, I'd never have noticed23:23
crimsunScottK: not all that great, but we'll see tomorrow?23:54
seeleRiddell: i hope you dont say these things outloud wherever you are, you might start a fight23:54
crimsundon't worry, maco will protect him23:55
seelemaco is in portland?23:55
crimsunnot that I know of. I was referring when he arrives.23:55
Riddellthese American football players don't seem to be very good, they never actually play for more than 10 seconds before causing a foul or otherwise stopping23:55
crimsunsigh, missing words again23:55
seelei dont know what she's going to do now that she's a newly converted quaker23:55
seelestand there and watch maybe?23:55
macohehe23:56
macoisnt that what he'd do too? :P23:56
crimsuncould stare real harsh-like23:56
seeleyeah, that's real scary23:56
macoim bad at harsh staring :(23:58
RiddellI have to get out of here, people are discussing anti-abortion adverts, wish me luck at the airport23:59
Tm_TRiddell: have fun and travel safe23:59

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