[00:09] hi [00:09] Riddell: ping [00:15] fale: I think he's in travel [00:16] Lex79: oh cool, thank you [00:16] I'll get him tomorrow or monday, then ;) [00:17] you're welcome, prego fale ;) [00:18] Lex79: are you it-m? [00:18] yeah :) [00:18] Lex79: oh, cool :) [00:18] :) [02:04] ping ninjas [02:05] i am wearing my ninja pajamas, does that make me a ninja? [02:06] * vorian was wondering what needs doing [02:06] i was just following the /topics instructions :) [02:13] nixternal: hi there :) I would like to help out as well so anything for me besides docs. === vorian is now known as obama === obama is now known as vorian [11:26] is the libqtcore 4.6.1 on build ? [13:32] Riddell: ping ;) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [17:37] Are there any plans to package Qt 4.6.1 for karmic, Or does it come together with the final version kde 4.4. [17:38] because Qt 4.6 is the cause for some plasma chrashes. [17:48] how to recover default desktop in kubuntu ? [17:49] i deleted it but i was not on purpose [17:49] fm: rm -r .kde/ ? [17:51] ok i will try [17:53] fm: that deletes also the mail off kmail, your settings/log in kopete etc... [17:54] and how can i recover then? [17:58] fm: I normally just move the folder .kde, and copy the stuff i need back. === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [18:05] * e-jat agreed with siegie [18:05] libqtcore :( [18:05] 4.6.1 [18:07] "rm -rf .kde " this command does't seem to work. where am wrong [18:20] fale: you pinged? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [18:21] Riddell: yes, wanted to show you this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/LucidPatchReview === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [18:24] Riddell: when is your flight to DC? [18:24] what airport are you flying into? above ground metro is still closed [18:24] seele: latest one is from seattle and gets in at 06:25 tomorrow morning [18:25] into Dulles [18:25] er.. does the metro bus start that early in the morning? [18:25] I've no idea [18:25] Riddell: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle. [18:26] Riddell: are you taking a taxi to town? [18:26] seele: It does if the weather doesn't stop it [18:26] * ScottK didn't manage to leave town today [18:26] Lex79: hmm ok I'll take a look in a bit, although those packages go to universe, it's only virtuoso-nepomuk I care about [18:27] ScottK: metro is still running emergency lines only, dunno if IAD shuttle to metro counts [18:27] ok [18:27] seele: I haven't thought that far ahead [18:27] * ScottK neither [18:27] and vienna is still above ground which is closed [18:27] We've got the driveway almost shoveled, but no plow yet, so even if my flight today hadn't been canceled, I couldn't have got to it. [18:28] Riddell: http://www.washfly.com/flyer_bus_schedule.htm [18:28] ScottK: yeah.. havent dug out my car yet either, not looking forward to it [18:29] so, any good places to go sledging in your city? :) [18:30] dunno, ask maco [18:31] ScottK: if your trip gets cancelled you are obligated to come to the CALUG and KDE 4.4 meet ups :) [18:31] Heh. [18:32] Assuming the plow comes by Thursday. [18:35] lol [18:35] the governor of virginia was saying they werent going to be able to clear the roads for people to get to work until tuesday [18:45] I just found out our county has a snow plow tracker. [18:45] http://snow2.co.ho.md.us/GridMap.asp?col=6&row=4 [18:45] It looks like they are working on side streets, so I have some hope. [18:47] oh wow that's cool [19:12] who did the ubuquity slides? [19:12] i don't think they like konqueror enough :P === ikonia_ is now known as the_tester [19:12] also they need updating, where are they stored? [19:17] nixternal did them IIRC. [19:20] Will there be ubuntu one for lucid/kubuntu? [19:20] If someone writes it. apachelogger started [19:22] ScottK: Nice! Hope UO will not drag half of gnome onto my system. [19:28] yuriy: waiting for shtylman to update the code and get back with me on the slides...there are new slides for both desktop and netbook that have been updated [19:28] nixternal: oh great! [19:28] do you know if he's also updating the artwork to 4.4 style air? [19:29] I believe so [19:31] ah finally have my desktop back [19:32] albeit stuck tethering to my laptop for internet [19:38] Riddell: there's a park near my flat where people go sledding when it snows [19:38] Riddell, seele: buses start at 7am on weekdays [19:39] Riddell: the washington flyer seele is referring to goes to the West Falls Church station. it's above ground. may be closed. [19:39] is is closed. [19:39] it's the same schedule as yesterday. [19:39] right, "it is"... [19:40] crimsun: talking about tomorrow [19:40] i know stuff's closed today. tomorrow is still unknown [19:40] which park? MH/MX? [19:40] that's going to be closed for sledding. [19:40] if traffic is roped off, you could try 13th. [19:40] crimsun: yes mh/mx [19:41] yeah i saw the blogs saying there were 13th st. sledders [19:41] was kinda neat,I was out there yesterday [19:42] it's great seeing places other than chicago getting sucker punched with snow :) [19:43] <-- former MN resident, used to snow [19:43] snow? what's that? [19:43] * Tm_T hides [19:43] something that is barely covering the ground now in chicago :) [19:44] you still see the 8 to 10 foot high mounds in the parking lots, and not even an inch on the ground [19:44] my mum called me to whinge yesterday about the lack of snow [19:44] that's good, seeing as for a solid month or two, we had no less than 2 to 3 feet of snow on the ground [19:44] laptop battery about to go...bbl [19:44] unlike the east coast though, we don't shut down [19:45] no such thing as "road closed", though they do close school now when there is 4 to 6 inches, whereas when I was in school, you needed at least a foot [19:46] has 4.4 been tagged? [19:46] in my 12 years of schooling back then, we had 1 snow day...just 1, and it was really do to the fact that not only did we get a bit of snow, but we also got severe thunderstorms with it, which was the weirdest thing I ever saw [19:46] shtylman: yes [19:48] FUCKING CAPS [19:48] argh [19:49] fuck ovechkin [19:49] Riddell: cool.... any reason to suspect that your kdebase packages are broken right now? [19:49] I installed updates and the kdm/ethais folder has only a wallpapers folder [19:49] and nothing else [19:49] obviously this causes kdm to puke itself [19:49] * yuriy is glad someone is swearing about hockey today [19:50] as opposed to football? hehe [19:51] shtylman: yes that's broken, I was just about to look at it [19:51] Riddell: gotcha... ok ... so im not insane :) [19:52] gosh, seele has turned into an angry person, what's going on? [19:52] Riddell: eh? [19:53] your enthusiasm, I think. [19:54] i wouldnt call enthusiasm for hockey a new personality trait [19:54] hmm, this sounds like organised sport [19:55] seele: GO BLACKHAWKS! [19:55] the caps, pfft [19:56] oh no, it's spreading [19:56] GO PENS! [19:56] fuck the caps [19:56] * yuriy checks if there's a game today [19:56] I remember their first season, as I was living there then, and their entire team was made up of boston bruins members from the year before [19:56] they had joey juneau, one of my all-time favorite players [19:56] stupid pens. [19:56] go canes! oh wait... [19:57] hehe [19:57] oh nice, in 3 minutes. GO BRUINS [19:59] I feel so left out, I'm not watching anyone play games and I have no urge to should abuse at anyone [20:00] yuriy: the Bruins are better actors than they are hockey players :p [20:01] i feel the urge to shoud abuse at Gigabyte and Netgear [20:01] though, I would never disrespect the bruins while in boston [20:01] nixternal: that would mean death [20:01] I learned the hard way many years ago [20:02] Riddell: im with you :) [20:02] Riddell: although...I might watch the super bowl today for the commercials [20:02] can't these pens and caps and whatnot sit down over a nice cup of tea and resolve their differences? [20:02] hahaha [20:03] shtylman: ah what a country you have, the most important event in my two week stay where is adverts [20:03] ok I don't undestand this. how do all but 7 teams in the league have winning records? [20:03] maybe i'm missing OTLs [20:04] yeah i guess that's it [20:04] shtylman: If you want to avoid all the sport, http://www.superbowl-ads.com/ tends to get things fairly quickly. [20:04] modern hockey stats are weird [20:04] shtylman: that's why I watch the super bowl...the commercials rock [20:05] and american's wonder why nobody appreciates their culture [20:05] we don't even appreciate our culture [20:06] hockey and tea? [20:06] not everyone is an easy convert to quakerism [20:06] lol [20:07] heh [20:07] persia: good call [20:08] i think hulu is going to have a superbowl ads channel too you can go to watch them [20:08] "If these systems "phase" together, or become one larger system, a major snow event of 6 to 10 inches will be likely." -- shit, I jinxed myself earlier poking fun at you east coasters [20:08] nixternal: 6-10 inches? oh please [20:08] 6 to 10 inches means a foot and a half at least due to the lake effect [20:08] I knew I should have packed my hat [20:08] ok, that's more like it [20:09] Riddell: i hope you have more than just a jumper to keep warm :P [20:09] * Tm_T has 40-60 cm snow here <3 [20:09] seele: you guys only had 2 major snowstorms, where the first melted in just over a week there....we had 2 to 3 feet for almost 2 months here [20:09] we just had most of ours melt with just about an inch falling yesterday [20:09] nixternal: washington dc isn't exactly equiped for persistant cold weather conditions [20:09] it isn't if Riddell can't pop down and buy another jumper ;) [20:09] you can still see the grass, which is quite ugly [20:09] as if * [20:10] where a foot of snow is usually managed within 12 hours, it shuts down the city for two days here [20:10] crimsun: Riddell wouldnt even go buy new shoes when his broke [20:10] seele: I don't know they aren't....I lived there for the ice storm in 94, the blizzard of 96 which was more than the 2 major ones this season, and then they have these 2 back to back punches [20:11] nixternal: we were out of salt and a million over our snow management budget by December 5th [20:11] i would say they arent :) [20:11] hahaha [20:11] we had that last year here in chicago [20:11] oh I'm sorry for wanting to repair my belongings before using up earths valuable resources buying new ones! [20:11] it just sounds like the east coast didn't catch up this season [20:11] Riddell: don't be sorry, I do the same thing, but it isn't for the earth, it is because I am a cheapskate [20:12] what was I saying about American culture? :) [20:12] haha [20:12] if people would get over not wearing leather, their shoes would last longer than the fake plastic alternatives [20:12] you need to head into the inner cities here if you want to see culture [20:13] I wear adidas, they last longer than all [20:13] nixternal: should i drop him off in PG County or Baltimore City for a night? ;) [20:13] i still wear a pair of adidas from the early 90s [20:13] the latter [20:13] lol [20:13] seele: SE DC on the PG border [20:13] PG is on the up, didn't you hear/read? ;) [20:13] i have a pair of docs from high school [20:13] though BC is pretty bad, but I just never witnessed it [20:13] SE is actually nicer than PG in many parts [20:13] nixternal: foreigners are scared of BC because of The Wired, hehe [20:14] crimsun: gentrification projects imo [20:14] I worked a part time security gig when I was in the Navy, and they made me work at a strip mall in PG county...needless to say, I was scared shitless [20:14] Riddell: you are just jealous cause you don't have an SUV :p [20:14] I've seen the Wire, I know how to talk Baltimore, I could manage that, I'll convert them all to free software [20:14] I lived in an ok part of PG; nothing freaky to report (though a few people got mugged after I met them) [20:14] shtylman: hey.. there are some places in this country where a SUV is useful [20:15] heheh [20:15] crimsun: yeah, the southern part of PG is nice, by the naval time center or whatever it is called [20:15] hmm, no strong correlation after people getting mugged and me meeting them. I hope not, at least. [20:16] tom clancy lives in PG County, been to his house...he has a tank and ch-60 (blackhawk) helicoptor in his front yard [20:17] I have only been mugged by shotgun on MARTA in Atlanta [20:17] nixternal: s/house/bunker? [20:17] and once at Maxwell Street in Chicago, when I was in like 9th grade...jumped me, and stole my damn clothes...left me in my underwear and a pair of socks, just for the old North Carolina Michael Jordan jump suit [20:18] seele: no, it is a really nice house..he is a military author so he has them setup like a museum [20:18] i swear i thought he lived in a bunker [20:18] (i know who tom clancy is) [20:19] oh, he is actually in Calvert County, Huntington [20:20] so this superbowl thing, when is it? [20:21] err, prince fred, not huntington [20:21] Riddell: 3 hours i think [20:22] Riddell: its an all day event for some people [20:22] the sports channels talk about it forever [20:22] Doesn't the actual game start in about three hours? [20:22] yea [20:22] something like that [20:22] 2 h 37 min [20:23] 5:30pm kickoff here in chicago, which is about 3 hours [20:24] so how long is a halftime? [20:24] I think the Who are playing [20:24] its 30min? [20:25] yes [20:25] iirc [20:25] waiting for that [20:25] you guys are really serious about these adverts aren't you? [20:25] who is the halftime show? [20:25] Riddell: if it isn't already obvious, yes. [20:25] Riddell: you have no idea [20:25] Riddell: yes, it's the reason why a lot of people watch the superbowl [20:25] not that I am not interested in football, but I do not know the rules enough to join the fun ;) [20:25] it's the biggest day in advertising [20:25] Riddell: they are some of the best ads [20:25] what seele typed. [20:26] seele: yes, the who is the halftime show :) [20:26] who is on first? [20:26] but adverts aren't good things, they're the annoying bits you go and turn the kettle on during! [20:26] Riddell: yes, but not for the superbowl, as they are all first timers typically, and they go all out and make them funny most of the time [20:26] aren't there only ads about chips and beer? [20:26] I love the new e*trade baby one [20:27] Riddell: because of the audience and cost of the ad space, the ad creators put a lot of money and creativity into these ads, so it becomes like watching a pretty good TV show [20:27] oh, and puxatony polamalu one is hillarious [20:28] how about the google one? [20:28] didn't see that one [20:29] how are you talking about these things if you haven't already seen them? [20:29] crimsun: seems that the google one is top secret and will air in the 3rd quarter, and the quote from google is "Hell has indeed frozen over." [20:30] yea [20:30] im looking forward to that one [20:30] could be good [20:30] Riddell: they provide teasers the day or so before [20:30] nixternal: a couple sites (techcrunch, engadget) have linked to spoilers [20:30] ! [20:30] shtylman: I am guessing it will be Chrome OS and maybe a tablet? [20:30] you have adverts for adverts?! [20:30] haha yeah [20:30] Riddell: you know, that Americal Culture is amazing :p [20:30] American rather [20:30] Riddell: is that so surprising? We make money from speculating about debt FFS. [20:31] this is america, where it is illegal in most places to gamble a few bucks on the game today, but it is perfectly fine to gamble your life savings in the stock market [20:31] Riddell: lmao [20:31] yes. [20:32] nixternal: now that would be something new... [20:32] you could be right tho [20:32] and not only do you have adverts about adverts but you go out of your way to watch them so you know what is going to be advertised during a sports event you don't even care about [20:32] Riddell: You may find it instructive to watch the archive of adverts from past years to better understand (see link I posted earlier) [20:32] you are gambling with stocks, you are placing money on a stock betting it will win, therefor making you money [20:33] I did a paper on it in college, and it really pissed off my conservative professor [20:33] I wonder if we will see a Toyota commercial? :p [20:34] The complete list if available. Mostly hyundai, IIRC, but check the listing to be sure. [20:34] s/if/is/ [20:35] is this thing on only one channel? [20:35] I think so [20:35] cause its a big deal [20:36] for the channel showing it [20:36] (ad revenue) [20:36] There's sometimes a couple different channels, depending on how the rights are allocated, and how many countries you can access. [20:38] nixternal: i've been laughing at toyota commercials every time the last week [20:39] Indeed. No Toyota this year. [20:40] yeah, poor toyota...i think when the results come out, ford will now be number 1 and toyoto will either move down 1 or 2 spots in rankings [20:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzIdZbypNk <- I love this one [20:43] rankings? [20:43] Riddell: toyota is the #1 auto manufacturer in the world [20:44] but after their massive recall, they will probably be #2 or #3 [20:44] ah, number of cars sold [20:44] they are losing like 200+ million dollars a day in the united states alone [20:44] right, and right now they can't sell more than half of their fleet [20:48] yet another kdebase-runtime tar [20:50] Riddell: hopefully last one [20:52] * Tm_T is eagerly waiting that he can yell "it's out!" (: [21:48] seele: did we win the hockey? [21:48] Riddell: no, when i said FUCK THE CAPS, that should have been a clue to the outcome [21:49] oh I see, I'm sorry for your loss [21:49] ovechkin is a beast [21:49] crosby+malkin still isnt enough [21:49] can't wait to see what happens in the olympics though, canada is going to be hot [21:49] i want to see canada+sweden in the final [21:50] I'll miss the Olympics by a short couple weeks :( [21:50] seele: I read "FUCK THE CAPS" as fuck caps lock... hmmm :) [21:51] shtylman: no, the yelling was on purpose :) [21:51] seele: indeed... realized in retrospect [21:52] Hi! [21:52] hi sgh, let me reassure you we are all hard at work on Kubuntu even if some of us blasmpheme about organised sport [21:53] Riddell speaks lies [21:55] Riddell: that ok. I will rephrase my questing into a reaching hand then. Apparently NM has stopped working since alpha2. If there is anything I can do, please tell. [21:58] Riddell: somehow after looking at the history I think that shtylman is right..... :D [21:59] my knetworkmanager has been working fine all week except today when it suddently stopped working [21:59] I haven't heard other complaints and I haven't been able to look into it yet [22:03] Riddell: ok. I think it maybe related to kde. Cause daemon.log looks okay. knetworkmanager says "Network management disabled". Which is obiously not correct. [22:05] sgh: trying network-manager-gnome is the first way to test that [22:06] Working here as of yesterday. [22:07] moving ~/.kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc and restarting is another quick check [22:08] Riddell: Fresh user is does not work, so networkmanagementrc seems so be not guilty. [22:20] Riddell: Ok ,,, worked. gnome.network-manager hade a switch on the ui. "Enable networking". After flipping that switch on the KDE network-manager worked againg. Also worked after a reboot. [22:20] hum [22:20] but why would it be turned off in the first place? [22:34] Riddell: looks like you might have a chance to fly into IAD [22:37] it's not been cancelled yet [22:39] lucky you [22:39] Riddell: having to use nm-applet to enable network management has happen to me as well [22:42] crimsun: How's it look for getting out of DCA tomorrow? [22:48] * shtylman upgraded my work computer to kubuntu lucid [22:48] now trying to get everything working [22:49] shtylman: what broke? [22:49] Riddell: besides kdm... there were random packages (plasma-desktop) missing for some reason...but nothing major... [22:50] most of the work is nut kubuntu related [22:50] just getting all the network mounts and whatnot working [22:50] s/nut/not [22:50] but overall it is working :) [23:19] hmm, cheesy song on this organised sport thing [23:23] ooh they're american, good thing they had a flag the size of a football pitch to remind me, I'd never have noticed [23:54] ScottK: not all that great, but we'll see tomorrow? [23:54] Riddell: i hope you dont say these things outloud wherever you are, you might start a fight [23:55] don't worry, maco will protect him [23:55] maco is in portland? [23:55] not that I know of. I was referring when he arrives. [23:55] these American football players don't seem to be very good, they never actually play for more than 10 seconds before causing a foul or otherwise stopping [23:55] sigh, missing words again [23:55] i dont know what she's going to do now that she's a newly converted quaker [23:55] stand there and watch maybe? [23:56] hehe [23:56] isnt that what he'd do too? :P [23:56] could stare real harsh-like [23:56] yeah, that's real scary [23:58] im bad at harsh staring :( [23:59] I have to get out of here, people are discussing anti-abortion adverts, wish me luck at the airport [23:59] Riddell: have fun and travel safe