[00:09] <fale> hi
[00:09] <fale> Riddell: ping
[00:15] <Lex79> fale: I think he's in travel
[00:16] <fale> Lex79: oh cool, thank you
[00:16] <fale> I'll get him tomorrow or monday, then ;)
[00:17] <Lex79> you're welcome, prego fale ;)
[00:18] <fale> Lex79: are you it-m?
[00:18] <Lex79> yeah :)
[00:18] <fale> Lex79: oh, cool :)
[00:18] <Lex79> :)
[02:04] <vorian> ping ninjas
[02:05] <nixternal> i am wearing my ninja pajamas, does that make me a ninja?
[02:06]  * vorian was wondering what needs doing
[02:06] <vorian> i was just following the /topics instructions :)
[02:13] <dhillon-v10> nixternal: hi there :) I would like to help out as well so anything for me besides docs.
[11:26] <ejat> is the libqtcore 4.6.1 on build ?
[13:32] <fale> Riddell: ping ;)
[17:37] <siegie> Are there any plans to package Qt 4.6.1 for karmic, Or does it come together with the final version kde 4.4.
[17:38] <siegie> because Qt 4.6 is the cause for some plasma chrashes.
[17:48] <fm>  how to recover default desktop in kubuntu ?
[17:49] <fm>  i deleted it but i was not on purpose
[17:49] <ulysses> fm: rm -r .kde/ ?
[17:51] <fm> ok i will try
[17:53] <siegie> fm: that deletes also the mail off kmail, your settings/log in kopete etc...
[17:54] <fm> and how can i recover then?
[17:58] <siegie> fm: I normally just move the folder .kde, and copy the stuff i need back.
[18:05]  * e-jat agreed with siegie
[18:05] <e-jat> libqtcore :(
[18:05] <e-jat> 4.6.1
[18:07] <fm> "rm -rf .kde " this command does't seem to work. where am wrong
[18:20] <Riddell> fale: you pinged?
[18:21] <fale> Riddell: yes, wanted to show you this: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/LucidPatchReview
[18:24] <seele> Riddell: when is your flight to DC?
[18:24] <seele> what airport are you flying into? above ground metro is still closed
[18:24] <Riddell> seele: latest one is from seattle and gets in at 06:25 tomorrow morning
[18:25] <Riddell> into Dulles
[18:25] <seele> er.. does the metro bus start that early in the morning?
[18:25] <Riddell> I've no idea
[18:25] <Lex79> Riddell: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle.
[18:26] <seele> Riddell: are you taking a taxi to town?
[18:26] <ScottK> seele: It does if the weather doesn't stop it
[18:26]  * ScottK didn't manage to leave town today 
[18:26] <Riddell> Lex79: hmm ok I'll take a look in a bit, although those packages go to universe, it's only virtuoso-nepomuk I care about
[18:27] <seele> ScottK: metro is still running emergency lines only, dunno if IAD shuttle to metro counts
[18:27] <Lex79> ok
[18:27] <Riddell> seele: I haven't thought that far ahead
[18:27]  * ScottK neither
[18:27] <seele> and vienna is still above ground which is closed
[18:27] <ScottK> We've got the driveway almost shoveled, but no plow yet, so even if my flight today hadn't been canceled, I couldn't have got to it.
[18:28] <seele> Riddell: http://www.washfly.com/flyer_bus_schedule.htm
[18:28] <seele> ScottK: yeah.. havent dug out my car yet either, not looking forward to it
[18:29] <Riddell> so, any good places to go sledging in your city? :)
[18:30] <seele> dunno, ask maco
[18:31] <seele> ScottK: if your trip gets cancelled you are obligated to come to the CALUG and KDE 4.4 meet ups :)
[18:31] <ScottK> Heh.
[18:32] <ScottK> Assuming the plow comes by Thursday.
[18:35] <seele> lol
[18:35] <seele> the governor of virginia was saying they werent going to be able to clear the roads for people to get to work until tuesday
[18:45] <ScottK> I just found out our county has a snow plow tracker.
[18:45] <ScottK> http://snow2.co.ho.md.us/GridMap.asp?col=6&row=4
[18:45] <ScottK> It looks like they are working on side streets, so I have some hope.
[18:47] <seele> oh wow that's cool
[19:12] <yuriy> who did the ubuquity slides?
[19:12] <yuriy> i don't think they like konqueror enough :P
[19:12] <yuriy> also they need updating, where are they stored?
[19:17] <ScottK> nixternal did them IIRC.
[19:20] <hunger_p> Will there be ubuntu one for lucid/kubuntu?
[19:20] <ScottK> If someone writes it.  apachelogger started
[19:22] <hunger_p> ScottK: Nice! Hope UO will not drag half of gnome onto my system.
[19:28] <nixternal> yuriy: waiting for shtylman to update the code and get back with me on the slides...there are new slides for both desktop and netbook that have been updated
[19:28] <yuriy> nixternal: oh great!
[19:28] <yuriy> do you know if he's also updating the artwork to 4.4 style air?
[19:29] <nixternal> I believe so
[19:31] <yuriy> ah finally have my desktop back
[19:32] <yuriy> albeit stuck tethering to my laptop for internet
[19:38] <maco> Riddell: there's a park near my flat where people go sledding when it snows
[19:38] <maco> Riddell, seele: buses start at 7am on weekdays
[19:39] <maco> Riddell: the washington flyer seele is referring to goes to the West Falls Church station. it's above ground. may be closed.
[19:39] <crimsun> is is closed.
[19:39] <crimsun> it's the same schedule as yesterday.
[19:39] <crimsun> right, "it is"...
[19:40] <maco> crimsun: talking about tomorrow
[19:40] <maco> i know stuff's closed today. tomorrow is still unknown
[19:40] <crimsun> which park? MH/MX?
[19:40] <crimsun> that's going to be closed for sledding.
[19:40] <crimsun> if traffic is roped off, you could try 13th.
[19:40] <maco> crimsun: yes mh/mx
[19:41] <maco> yeah i saw the blogs saying there were 13th st. sledders
[19:41] <crimsun> was kinda neat,I was out there yesterday
[19:42] <nixternal> it's great seeing places other than chicago getting sucker punched with snow :)
[19:43] <crimsun> <-- former MN resident, used to snow
[19:43] <Tm_T> snow? what's that?
[19:43]  * Tm_T hides
[19:43] <nixternal> something that is barely covering the ground now in chicago :)
[19:44] <nixternal> you still see the 8 to 10 foot high mounds in the parking lots, and not even an inch on the ground
[19:44] <maco> my mum called me to whinge yesterday about the lack of snow
[19:44] <nixternal> that's good, seeing as for a solid month or two, we had no less than 2 to 3 feet of snow on the ground
[19:44] <maco> laptop battery about to go...bbl
[19:44] <nixternal> unlike the east coast though, we don't shut down
[19:45] <nixternal> no such thing as "road closed", though they do close school now when there is 4 to 6 inches, whereas when I was in school, you needed at least a foot
[19:46] <shtylman> has 4.4 been tagged?
[19:46] <nixternal> in my 12 years of schooling back then, we had 1 snow day...just 1, and it was really do to the fact that not only did we get a bit of snow, but we also got severe thunderstorms with it, which was the weirdest thing I ever saw
[19:46] <Riddell> shtylman: yes
[19:48] <seele> FUCKING CAPS
[19:48] <seele> argh
[19:49] <seele> fuck ovechkin
[19:49] <shtylman> Riddell: cool.... any reason to suspect that your kdebase packages are broken right now?
[19:49] <shtylman> I installed updates and the kdm/ethais folder has only a wallpapers folder
[19:49] <shtylman> and nothing else
[19:49] <shtylman> obviously this causes kdm to puke itself
[19:49]  * yuriy is glad someone is swearing about hockey today
[19:50] <seele> as opposed to football? hehe
[19:51] <Riddell> shtylman: yes that's broken, I was just about to look at it
[19:51] <shtylman> Riddell: gotcha... ok ... so im not insane :)
[19:52] <Riddell> gosh, seele has turned into an angry person, what's going on?
[19:52] <seele> Riddell: eh?
[19:53] <crimsun> your enthusiasm, I think.
[19:54] <seele> i wouldnt call enthusiasm for hockey a new personality trait
[19:54] <Riddell> hmm, this sounds like organised sport
[19:55] <nixternal> seele: GO BLACKHAWKS!
[19:55] <nixternal> the caps, pfft
[19:56] <Riddell> oh no, it's spreading
[19:56] <seele> GO PENS!
[19:56] <seele> fuck the caps
[19:56]  * yuriy checks if there's a game today
[19:56] <nixternal> I remember their first season, as I was living there then, and their entire team was made up of boston bruins members from the year before
[19:56] <nixternal> they had joey juneau, one of my all-time favorite players
[19:56] <crimsun> stupid pens.
[19:56] <crimsun> go canes! oh wait...
[19:57] <nixternal> hehe
[19:57] <yuriy> oh nice, in 3 minutes. GO BRUINS
[19:59] <Riddell> I feel so left out, I'm not watching anyone play games and I have no urge to should abuse at anyone
[20:00] <nixternal> yuriy: the Bruins are better actors than they are hockey players :p
[20:01] <yuriy> i feel the urge to shoud abuse at Gigabyte and Netgear
[20:01] <nixternal> though, I would never disrespect the bruins while in boston
[20:01] <seele> nixternal: that would mean death
[20:01] <nixternal> I learned the hard way many years ago
[20:02] <shtylman> Riddell: im with you :)
[20:02] <shtylman> Riddell: although...I might watch the super bowl today for the commercials
[20:02] <Riddell> can't these pens and caps and whatnot sit down over a nice cup of tea and resolve their differences?
[20:02] <shtylman> hahaha
[20:03] <Riddell> shtylman: ah what a country you have, the most important event in my two week stay where is adverts
[20:03] <yuriy> ok I don't undestand this. how do all but 7 teams in the league have winning records?
[20:03] <yuriy> maybe i'm missing OTLs
[20:04] <yuriy> yeah i guess that's it
[20:04] <persia> shtylman: If you want to avoid all the sport, http://www.superbowl-ads.com/ tends to get things fairly quickly.
[20:04] <yuriy> modern hockey stats are weird
[20:04] <nixternal> shtylman: that's why I watch the super bowl...the commercials rock
[20:05] <Riddell> and american's wonder why nobody appreciates their culture
[20:05] <nixternal> we don't even appreciate our culture
[20:06] <seele> hockey and tea?
[20:06] <seele> not everyone is an easy convert to quakerism
[20:06] <nixternal> lol
[20:07] <shtylman> heh
[20:07] <shtylman> persia: good call
[20:08] <seele> i think hulu is going to have a superbowl ads channel too you can go to watch them
[20:08] <nixternal> "If these systems "phase" together, or become one larger system, a major snow event of 6 to 10 inches will be likely."  -- shit, I jinxed myself earlier poking fun at you east coasters
[20:08] <seele> nixternal: 6-10 inches? oh please
[20:08] <nixternal> 6 to 10 inches means a foot and a half at least due to the lake effect
[20:08] <Riddell> I knew I should have packed my hat
[20:08] <seele> ok, that's more like it
[20:09] <seele> Riddell: i hope you have more than just a jumper to keep warm :P
[20:09]  * Tm_T has 40-60 cm snow here <3
[20:09] <nixternal> seele: you guys only had 2 major snowstorms, where the first melted in just over a week there....we had 2 to 3 feet for almost 2 months here
[20:09] <nixternal> we just had most of ours melt with just about an inch falling yesterday
[20:09] <seele> nixternal: washington dc isn't exactly equiped for persistant cold weather conditions
[20:09] <crimsun> it isn't if Riddell can't pop down and buy another jumper ;)
[20:09] <nixternal> you can still see the grass, which is quite ugly
[20:09] <crimsun> as if *
[20:10] <seele> where a foot of snow is usually managed within 12 hours, it shuts down the city for two days here
[20:10] <seele> crimsun: Riddell wouldnt even go buy new shoes when his broke
[20:10] <nixternal> seele: I don't know they aren't....I lived there for the ice storm in 94, the blizzard of 96 which was more than the 2 major ones this season, and then they have these 2 back to back punches
[20:11] <seele> nixternal: we were out of salt and a million over our snow management budget by December 5th
[20:11] <seele> i would say they arent :)
[20:11] <nixternal> hahaha
[20:11] <nixternal> we had that last year here in chicago
[20:11] <Riddell> oh I'm sorry for wanting to repair my belongings before using up earths valuable resources buying new ones!
[20:11] <nixternal> it just sounds like the east coast didn't catch up this season
[20:11] <nixternal> Riddell: don't be sorry, I do the same thing, but it isn't for the earth, it is because I am a cheapskate
[20:12] <Riddell> what was I saying about American culture? :)
[20:12] <nixternal> haha
[20:12] <seele> if people would get over not wearing leather, their shoes would last longer than the fake plastic alternatives
[20:12] <nixternal> you need to head into the inner cities here if you want to see culture
[20:13] <nixternal> I wear adidas, they last longer than all
[20:13] <seele> nixternal: should i drop him off in PG County or Baltimore City for a night? ;)
[20:13] <nixternal> i still wear a pair of adidas from the early 90s
[20:13] <crimsun> the latter
[20:13] <seele> lol
[20:13] <nixternal> seele: SE DC on the PG border
[20:13] <crimsun> PG is on the up, didn't you hear/read? ;)
[20:13] <seele> i have a pair of docs from high school
[20:13] <nixternal> though BC is pretty bad, but I just never witnessed it
[20:13] <crimsun> SE is actually nicer than PG in many parts
[20:13] <seele> nixternal: foreigners are scared of BC because of The Wired, hehe
[20:14] <seele> crimsun: gentrification projects imo
[20:14] <nixternal> I worked a part time security gig when I was in the Navy, and they made me work at a strip mall in PG county...needless to say, I was scared shitless
[20:14] <shtylman> Riddell: you are just jealous cause you don't have an SUV :p
[20:14] <Riddell> I've seen the Wire, I know how to talk Baltimore, I could manage that, I'll convert them all to free software
[20:14] <crimsun> I lived in an ok part of PG; nothing freaky to report (though a few people got mugged after I met them)
[20:14] <seele> shtylman: hey.. there are some places in this country where a SUV is useful
[20:15] <shtylman> heheh
[20:15] <nixternal> crimsun: yeah, the southern part of PG is nice, by the naval time center or whatever it is called
[20:15] <crimsun> hmm, no strong correlation after people getting mugged and me meeting them. I hope not, at least.
[20:16] <nixternal> tom clancy lives in PG County, been to his house...he has a tank and ch-60 (blackhawk) helicoptor in his front yard
[20:17] <nixternal> I have only been mugged by shotgun on MARTA in Atlanta
[20:17] <seele> nixternal: s/house/bunker?
[20:17] <nixternal> and once at Maxwell Street in Chicago, when I was in like 9th grade...jumped me, and stole my damn clothes...left me in my underwear and a pair of socks, just for the old North Carolina Michael Jordan jump suit
[20:18] <nixternal> seele: no, it is a really nice house..he is a military author so he has them setup like a museum
[20:18] <seele> i swear i thought he lived in a bunker
[20:18] <seele> (i know who tom clancy is)
[20:19] <nixternal> oh, he is actually in Calvert County, Huntington
[20:20] <Riddell> so this superbowl thing, when is it?
[20:21] <nixternal> err, prince fred, not huntington
[20:21] <seele> Riddell: 3 hours i think
[20:22] <shtylman> Riddell: its an all day event for some people
[20:22] <shtylman> the sports channels talk about it forever
[20:22] <persia> Doesn't the actual game start in about three hours?
[20:22] <shtylman> yea
[20:22] <shtylman> something like that
[20:22] <neversfelde> 2 h 37 min
[20:23] <nixternal> 5:30pm kickoff here in chicago, which is about 3 hours
[20:24] <neversfelde> so how long is a halftime?
[20:24] <shtylman> I think the Who are playing
[20:24] <shtylman> its 30min?
[20:25] <neversfelde> yes
[20:25] <shtylman> iirc
[20:25] <neversfelde> waiting for that
[20:25] <Riddell> you guys are really serious about these adverts aren't you?
[20:25] <seele> who is the halftime show?
[20:25] <crimsun> Riddell: if it isn't already obvious, yes.
[20:25] <shtylman> Riddell: you have no idea
[20:25] <seele> Riddell: yes, it's the reason why a lot of people watch the superbowl
[20:25] <neversfelde> not that I am not interested in football, but I do not know the rules enough to join the fun ;)
[20:25] <seele> it's the biggest day in advertising
[20:25] <shtylman> Riddell: they are some of the best ads
[20:25] <crimsun> what seele typed.
[20:26] <nixternal> seele: yes, the who is the halftime show :)
[20:26] <nixternal> who is on first?
[20:26] <Riddell> but adverts aren't good things, they're the annoying bits you go and turn the kettle on during!
[20:26] <nixternal> Riddell: yes, but not for the superbowl, as they are all first timers typically, and they go all out and make them funny most of the time
[20:26] <neversfelde> aren't there only ads about chips and beer?
[20:26] <nixternal> I love the new e*trade baby one
[20:27] <yuriy> Riddell: because of the audience and cost of the ad space, the ad creators put a lot of money and creativity into these ads, so it becomes like watching a pretty good TV show
[20:27] <nixternal> oh, and puxatony polamalu one is hillarious
[20:28] <crimsun> how about the google one?
[20:28] <nixternal> didn't see that one
[20:29] <Riddell> how are you talking about these things if you haven't already seen them?
[20:29] <nixternal> crimsun: seems that the google one is top secret and will air in the 3rd quarter, and the quote from google is "Hell has indeed frozen over."
[20:30] <shtylman> yea
[20:30] <shtylman> im looking forward to that one
[20:30] <shtylman> could be good
[20:30] <nixternal> Riddell: they provide teasers the day or so before
[20:30] <crimsun> nixternal: a couple sites (techcrunch, engadget) have linked to spoilers
[20:30] <Riddell> !
[20:30] <nixternal> shtylman: I am guessing it will be Chrome OS and maybe a tablet?
[20:30] <Riddell> you have adverts for adverts?!
[20:30] <nixternal> haha yeah
[20:30] <nixternal> Riddell: you know, that Americal Culture is amazing :p
[20:30] <nixternal> American rather
[20:30] <crimsun> Riddell: is that so surprising? We make money from speculating about debt FFS.
[20:31] <nixternal> this is america, where it is illegal in most places to gamble a few bucks on the game today, but it is perfectly fine to gamble your life savings in the stock market
[20:31] <yuriy> Riddell: lmao
[20:31] <yuriy> yes.
[20:32] <shtylman> nixternal: now that would be something new...
[20:32] <shtylman> you could be right tho
[20:32] <Riddell> and not only do you have adverts about adverts but you go out of your way to watch them so you know what is going to be advertised during a sports event you don't even care about
[20:32] <persia> Riddell: You may find it instructive to watch the archive of adverts from past years to better understand (see link I posted earlier)
[20:32] <nixternal> you are gambling with stocks, you are placing money on a stock betting it will win, therefor making you money
[20:33] <nixternal> I did a paper on it in college, and it really pissed off my conservative professor
[20:33] <nixternal> I wonder if we will see a Toyota commercial? :p
[20:34] <persia> The complete list if available.  Mostly hyundai, IIRC, but check the listing to be sure.
[20:34] <persia> s/if/is/
[20:35] <Riddell> is this thing on only one channel?
[20:35] <shtylman> I think so
[20:35] <shtylman> cause its a big deal
[20:36] <shtylman> for the channel showing it
[20:36] <shtylman> (ad revenue)
[20:36] <persia> There's sometimes a couple different channels, depending on how the rights are allocated, and how many countries you can access.
[20:38] <yuriy> nixternal: i've been laughing at toyota commercials every time the last week
[20:39] <persia> Indeed.  No Toyota this year.
[20:40] <nixternal> yeah, poor toyota...i think when the results come out, ford will now be number 1 and toyoto will either move down 1 or 2 spots in rankings
[20:43] <nixternal> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFzIdZbypNk  <- I love this one
[20:43] <Riddell> rankings?
[20:43] <nixternal> Riddell: toyota is the #1 auto manufacturer in the world
[20:44] <nixternal> but after their massive recall, they will probably be #2 or #3
[20:44] <Riddell> ah, number of cars sold
[20:44] <nixternal> they are losing like 200+ million dollars a day in the united states alone
[20:44] <nixternal> right, and right now they can't sell more than half of their fleet
[20:48] <Riddell> yet another kdebase-runtime tar
[20:50] <Tm_T> Riddell: hopefully last one
[20:52]  * Tm_T is eagerly waiting that he can yell "it's out!" (:
[21:48] <Riddell> seele: did we win the hockey?
[21:48] <seele> Riddell: no, when i said FUCK THE CAPS, that should have been a clue to the outcome
[21:49] <Riddell> oh I see, I'm sorry for your loss
[21:49] <seele> ovechkin is a beast
[21:49] <seele> crosby+malkin still isnt enough
[21:49] <seele> can't wait to see what happens in the olympics though, canada is going to be hot
[21:49] <seele> i want to see canada+sweden in the final
[21:50] <crimsun> I'll miss the Olympics by a short couple weeks :(
[21:50] <shtylman> seele: I read "FUCK THE CAPS" as fuck caps lock... hmmm :)
[21:51] <seele> shtylman: no, the yelling was on purpose :)
[21:51] <shtylman> seele: indeed... realized in retrospect
[21:52] <sgh> Hi!
[21:52] <Riddell> hi sgh, let me reassure you we are all hard at work on Kubuntu even if some of us blasmpheme about organised sport
[21:53] <shtylman> Riddell speaks lies
[21:55] <sgh> Riddell: that ok. I will rephrase my questing into a reaching hand then. Apparently NM has stopped working since alpha2. If there is anything I can do, please tell.
[21:58] <sgh> Riddell: somehow after looking at the history I think that shtylman is right..... :D
[21:59] <Riddell> my knetworkmanager has been working fine all week except today when it suddently stopped working
[21:59] <Riddell> I haven't heard other complaints and I haven't been able to look into it yet
[22:03] <sgh> Riddell: ok. I think it maybe related to kde. Cause daemon.log looks okay. knetworkmanager says "Network management disabled". Which is obiously not correct.
[22:05] <Riddell> sgh: trying network-manager-gnome is the first way to test that
[22:06] <ScottK> Working here as of yesterday.
[22:07] <Riddell> moving ~/.kde/share/config/networkmanagementrc and restarting is another quick check
[22:08] <sgh> Riddell: Fresh user is does not work, so networkmanagementrc seems so be not guilty.
[22:20] <sgh_> Riddell: Ok ,,, worked. gnome.network-manager hade a switch on the ui. "Enable networking". After flipping that switch on the KDE network-manager worked againg. Also worked after a reboot.
[22:20] <Riddell> hum
[22:20] <Riddell> but why would it be turned off in the first place?
[22:34] <crimsun> Riddell: looks like you might have a chance to fly into IAD
[22:37] <Riddell> it's not been cancelled yet
[22:39] <crimsun> lucky you
[22:39] <verbalshadow> Riddell: having to use nm-applet to enable network management has happen to me as well
[22:42] <ScottK> crimsun: How's it look for getting out of DCA tomorrow?
[22:48]  * shtylman upgraded my work computer to kubuntu lucid
[22:48] <shtylman> now trying to get everything working
[22:49] <Riddell> shtylman: what broke?
[22:49] <shtylman> Riddell: besides kdm... there were random packages (plasma-desktop) missing for some reason...but nothing major...
[22:50] <shtylman> most of the work is nut kubuntu related
[22:50] <shtylman> just getting all the network mounts and whatnot working
[22:50] <shtylman> s/nut/not
[22:50] <shtylman> but overall it is working :)
[23:19] <Riddell> hmm, cheesy song on this organised sport thing
[23:23] <Riddell> ooh they're american, good thing they had a flag the size of a football pitch to remind me, I'd never have noticed
[23:54] <crimsun> ScottK: not all that great, but we'll see tomorrow?
[23:54] <seele> Riddell: i hope you dont say these things outloud wherever you are, you might start a fight
[23:55] <crimsun> don't worry, maco will protect him
[23:55] <seele> maco is in portland?
[23:55] <crimsun> not that I know of. I was referring when he arrives.
[23:55] <Riddell> these American football players don't seem to be very good, they never actually play for more than 10 seconds before causing a foul or otherwise stopping
[23:55] <crimsun> sigh, missing words again
[23:55] <seele> i dont know what she's going to do now that she's a newly converted quaker
[23:55] <seele> stand there and watch maybe?
[23:56] <maco> hehe
[23:56] <maco> isnt that what he'd do too? :P
[23:56] <crimsun> could stare real harsh-like
[23:56] <seele> yeah, that's real scary
[23:58] <maco> im bad at harsh staring :(
[23:59] <Riddell> I have to get out of here, people are discussing anti-abortion adverts, wish me luck at the airport
[23:59] <Tm_T> Riddell: have fun and travel safe