[00:01] fullscreen :) [00:01] Hey everyone, while troubleshooting a apache problem I deleted the default files in /etc/apache2/sites-available ? I tried a reinstall in apt but did add them back [00:01] BUGabundo, I still cannot figure out how you got that apple site to work. [00:02] Bookman: what apple ? [00:02] the game site? [00:02] BUGabundo, yes [00:02] I still have the old java plugin from SUN [00:02] BUGabundo, ah, got you. [00:54] I wish plymouth and mountall gave useful debug [00:54] do you need an hammer penguin42 [00:54] heh, plymouth doesn't do anything for my system. literally does nothing. [00:55] BUGabundo: I was just trying my own kernel build again === David-T is now known as Guest16283 [00:56] DanaG1: I get a _nice_ 3 color bar in mine [00:56] for 2 seconds [00:56] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22239 [00:56] Freedesktop bug 22239 in plymouth general "improve console= handling" [Normal,New] [00:56] On my system, it doesn't even TRY to draw the splash screen. [00:56] Does anybody know how to install groundcontrol in Lucid? It seems to look for a couple python-lazr packages that aren't in the repos [01:01] ripps, you can't currently [01:01] kklimonda: okay [01:10] Anyone know of a good old fashioned side scrolling game? I tried the Abe's Aventure one but it only comes up with a black screen and I have to power cycle to get out of it. [01:11] sonic? [01:11] kermiac: LOL [01:11] * kermiac chuckles [01:11] couldn't resist [01:12] side scrolling game? er... supertux? [01:14] yofel, supertux also has graphical problems [01:15] then I somehow doubt that it's the games fault... [01:15] kermiac: now you made me nostalgic and I want to play it :( [01:15] Hmm... indicator applet doesn't hide empathy anymore. I liked that feature [01:15] yofel, ok [01:15] BUGabundo, use GensGS ;) [01:15] nope [01:16] I should [01:16] tried to put loki in it... FAILED :( [01:16] * BUGabundo cries [01:16] hey BUGabundo there's an opensonic or something similar around [01:16] Bookman: then again, haven't played it in a while, so maybe it broke in the meanwhile [01:16] kermiac: link me up [01:16] http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CAgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fopensnc.sourceforge.net%2F&rct=j&q=open+sonic&ei=fxRuS_yWCYvi7AOljvC3DQ&usg=AFQjCNHf6ZdoaLy-nrsfFau_Ja3lmEnqBA [01:16] oops [01:17] stupid google [01:17] http://opensnc.sourceforge.net/home/index.php [01:17] hm, auto-url-shorening would be a nice IRC Client feature :D [01:17] *shortening [01:17] * kermiac agrees [01:18] yofel: ohh there are a few that do it [01:18] I have a friend that has it on his [01:18] u remember what client he uses? I'm using quassel atm due to client - server goodness [01:19] no, bad memory [01:19] let me ask him [01:19] don't expect RT reply [01:21] Any other scrollers to try? [01:22] kermiac: thanks for the link. ppa added, game installing [01:22] gotta have a look through the qauassel scripts page, surely someone's made a url-shortner script [01:22] np BUGabundo - if you're anything like me it is VERY addictive, lol [01:23] try snailmail [01:24] or akinator [01:24] I can't even visit that site, I get hooked [01:24] * kermiac grins [01:24] Man, every game I try, full black screen. [01:24] graphics issue? [01:25] Kind of obvious :) [01:25] yeah, I've got a knack for stating the obvious at times :) [01:26] what card u running? [01:26] ATI Radeon XPress 200M === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [01:26] Works fine with everything else [01:28] you got the opensource or proprietory drivers installed? also, u running lucid or karmic? I'll try to reproduce on my ati machine [01:29] I'm running an updated 10.04. I'm also running the opensource (default) grafics driver [01:30] I can run Compiz with no issues. Very fast actually. Video is also not a problem. [01:31] I've not had much luck with the opensource ati drivers... you thought about installing catalyst drivers? 10.1 was released a cpl days ago [01:33] kermiac, scared to. Not sure if they will work and be stable with 10.04 [01:33] ok Bookman, I'm just wating for my lucid vm to finish updates & I'll be a guinea pig for you :) [01:33] kermiac, that would be just awesome! [01:34] This is not a production machine, but it is wireless only. [01:34] That can cause many problems [01:34] no probs - that's the beauty of vmware. gotta luv snapshots [01:34] hmm [01:34] anyone had issues with the latest grub update [01:34] can't seem to get past configureing grub-pc [01:35] there's an option to "continue without installing grub" but that sounds dangerous [01:35] btw - this is in lucid [01:37] I always get mixed up by the names [01:37] nvm, that was the only option that would let me get past it [01:37] lucid = 10.04 [01:37] I don't need url shortening; all I need is for google to stop mangling the stupid URLs! [01:38] I just chose to continue without installing otherwise it refused to continue the upgrade. will see what happends with a reboot [01:38] Yeah, I understand the naming....I've been messing around since 7.10, whatever that was! [01:38] * kermiac agrees with DanaG [01:39] kermiac, thanks for the Open Sonic link BTW - it's pretty cool (but i can't play fullscreen :( as I'm running twinview and there doesn't appear to be an option for 1280x1024 which would auto shutoff one monitor) but thanks man [01:40] no probs ZykoticK9 :) [01:42] well, choosing to continue didn't kill it. rebooted without any issues :) [01:44] I'm just rebooting again with lucid hdd. I'll let u know how the catalyst driver goes Bookman [01:45] kermiac, awesome, thanks! [01:45] np [01:45] I'm watching Space 1999 in the meantime! [01:45] Love retro [01:45] yup, gotta luv retro movies! [01:47] Ultra futuristic when I saw it for the first time [01:47] Damn doors still do not open by themselves! [01:51] Is there some way to hide the empathy tray icon, It kinda clashes with my theme. I want to keep it hidden until I call empathy from the indicator-applet [01:57] bah, just killed grub on my lucid hdd. gunna have to do a re-install. totally user error :( [02:04] back [02:04] I blame kermiac for my lost time [02:05] did it succeed? ;) [02:05] * kermiac chuckles [02:05] i warned you BUGabundo :) [02:06] got stuck after a several levels [02:06] reminds me of the time spent playing x-moto [02:09] now who's being nostalgic? I have very fond memories of x-moto :) [02:10] kermiac, well? Did it work? I've downloaded the latest X200 driver but it is dated March of last year [02:10] re-install's at 80% Bookman, will be able to test soon [02:11] I foobarred my install - but not due to catalyst driver, due to me being stupid, lol [02:11] Perfectamundo [02:11] at least we know it'll be a fresh install, lol [02:19] kermiac: what did you do? [02:19] very few things can't be repaired [02:21] left a ghost cd from work in the drive & it automatically wipes the hdd & starts installing stuff. Like I said - totally my fault [02:21] anyway. got the fresh install now :) [02:21] That's a nasty CD... [02:22] yup, I forgot it was in there from when I was doing work stuff earlier today :( [02:22] oh well, lesson learned [02:22] eheh [02:22] rebooting now after installing ati driver Bookman [02:23] yeah that's makes it hard to restore [02:23] yeah, that it does [02:23] Good luck kermiac [02:24] not looking good. I just remembered reading that lucid is running X.Org Server 1.7.x & the catalyst drivers don't support it [02:25] I think I just remembered the hard way though, lol [02:25] lemme see if i can find the link [02:25] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk1MQ [02:27] yup, the catalyst drivers are no good yet Bookman. Glad i checked it out before you installed [02:28] sorry for getting your hopes up [02:29] oh well, that's it from me for now [02:30] I'm off to go do some outside work. see you all later :) [02:31] I appreciate the trial on my behalf! Thanks a ton. [02:31] no probs Bookman I'm just glad I decided to try before killing your system, lol [02:32] wish I had remembered about that link earlier, lol [02:32] Can you recover kermiac? [02:32] yeah, it's no probs. Only takes 10 - 15mins to re-install. It's not my main system so it's all good [02:33] i could recover but it's probably not worth the hassle when re-installing is a much simpler option [02:33] time to head to bed [02:33] cu tomorrow [02:33] anyway, I've gotta get some work done outside before it decides to rain again. cya later [02:34] bye BUGabundo have fun with sonic :) [02:34] eheh [03:43] !daily [03:43] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [03:43] are the dailys down? [03:43] ChogyDan, working here [03:44] ZykoticK9: really? where did you get it? I got it yesterday, and it failed to install [03:44] now today, it doesnt seem to be there. ? [03:44] ChogyDan, OH i thought you where asking if the site was down. sorry [03:45] ya, the site is there, but I don't see the iso. O well! [03:45] ChogyDan, if i go into the Source directory i see a lucid-src-1.iso is that it? i just went with Alpha2 myself [03:46] ZykoticK9: 2.5g :) I bet that is the source. [03:46] ChogyDan, sure enough - sorry - i have no ideas [03:46] thats ok, thanks for the effort [03:57] I've downloaded Alpha 2. and I did some updates. after some updates It will be beta on my machine right? [03:58] Damascene: in theory, when beta gets out of course [03:59] Damascene, Beta1 doesn't come out for a while [03:59] may I ask, why did you say "in theory"? [04:00] bugs, thought I've never had much of an issue [04:01] well, it should update to beta just fine... [04:02] Damascene, FYI 19 more days until Alpha 3, and 40 more days until Beta 1 [04:02] I see. is there to know that from my system? like a command or something [04:02] I see thank you [04:03] *is there any way [04:03] Damascene, any way to know what exactly? [04:04] if I'm using alpha or beta [04:05] Damascene: not really, as those are just artificial milestones to make planning easier [04:05] Damascene, i don't think so it just says "development version" or something righ tnow [04:06] usually just make sure you have all updates installed and check the schedule where we are right now [04:07] thank you all. I've to go know. [04:07] *now [04:07] :) [04:30] I'm having an issue with "gnome-screenshot" and would like to submit a bug, but "ubuntu-bug gnome-screenshot" tells me that "Package gnome-screenshot does not exist" should I be using just Gnome as bug source? [04:31] ubuntu-bug gnome-utils [04:32] i.e., the gnome-utils binary package provides /usr/bin/gnome-screenshot [04:32] crimsun, thanks - may i asked how you where able to find the parent package? [04:33] I used dlocate, but you can use dpkg -S or apt-file [04:33] or http://packages.ubuntu.com [04:33] crimsun, thanks [04:33] or, !find /usr/bin/gnome-screenshot [04:34] crimsun, that's a lot of options [04:34] (or not, I may have screwed the syntax) [04:47] hi everyone, in dolphin all of the folder icons have now been replaced by printers? === Richie is now known as WelshDragon [05:54] which driver should i be using for an ati mobility 4200hd? [05:56] ati [05:56] can't tell what im using, as i have no xorg.conf [05:56] Then you're using the correct driver. [05:57] You can find out what you're using by checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log [05:57] Or opening System->Administration->Log File Viewer & checking Xorg.0.log there. [05:58] just a bunch of (II) RADEON(0): Modeline [05:58] not much info [05:58] billybigrigger, "lspci -nnk" might be of some assistance < just learned that command tonight, well the -nnk part anyway [05:59] nice command [05:59] well nice flag i should say haha [05:59] kernel driver in use: radeon kernel modules: radeon [05:59] billybigrigger: Searching for “driver” in Xorg.0.log will find you the various drivers X is using. [06:00] You'll be using ati, which is an alias for radeon. [06:00] billybigrigger: If you have a bunch of RADEON lines in your Xorg.0.log, you're using xserver-xorg-video-radeon. [06:00] As I understand it, there's no particularly good reason to use anything but radeon. [06:01] fglrx has better 3D support for some cards. fglrx is also a pain in the backside and I loathe it. I'd recommend radeon almost always. [06:01] Oh, yeah. What I actually meant was “there's no particularly good reason to use radeonhd over radeon”. There are obvious reasons to use fglrx. [06:02] with Lucid it is becoming even more clear Nvidia is the gfx of choice for linux (or ubuntu anyway) [06:02] ZykoticK9: xserver-xorg-video-radeon is getting better each release. R6xx cards (including the one I use) now have basic 3D support using the Free driver. I'll stick with ATI myself. [06:03] Why? Because there'll be a basic-functionality nouveau package? [06:03] R600 works fine for me [06:04] rww, RAOF lucid introduces not only the Nouveau driver, but special nvidia support (3 drives simultaneously installed) [06:04] anyone use linux putty? [06:05] why would we [06:05] cant seem to get it to paste into putty screen [06:05] idk why you would, but i use it [06:05] why do you use it [06:05] stores a lot of sessions [06:05] easy to click on one and load it [06:06] answering questions with questions... [06:06] bad habit [06:06] but it's natural when you think someone is doing something stupid [06:06] though, you have a good point [06:06] ok sherlock holmes [06:06] anyone else? [06:08] skydrome, i use putty if i'm in a windows environment, but in linux i just stick to the regular terminal (i create shortcuts to the different servers i connect to) [06:08] I personally upload my public key onto all servers and make an alias for every server in .ssh/config [06:09] so I just "ssh alias" and the magic happens [06:09] *I* use GNOME Do to do my SSH. Throw the configuration in .ssh/config, and I can shell in with the Do SSH plugin :) [06:09] ok how do i use my private keys using ssh? [06:10] RAOF, yes but all of the gnome-do devs are shifty characters [06:10] skydrome, you seem to be getting better answers here then in #ubuntu :) [06:10] lol i know right [06:10] skydrome: have a file called "id_rsa" in .ssh/ (which is the private part) [06:11] I don't know how you have generated the key [06:11] ok thanks [06:11] i used puttygen [06:11] the file should start with a line saying "BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY" [06:11] right [06:13] ok well i guess ill start making some alias's :) thanks hifi [06:14] Host alias\n\tUser \n\tHostname [06:14] to .ssh/config [06:15] also the very little known controlmaster setting is a must [06:15] Host *\n\tControlPath ~/.ssh/master-%r@%h:%p\n\tControlMaster auto [06:15] whats the diff between dsa and rsa? [06:15] and all your simultaneous ssh connections to the same host will me auto-authenticated [06:15] will be* [06:16] awesome mate [06:16] quite handy when you scp files to remote server while you have a ssh connection open [06:25] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=826475 [06:25] argh [06:30] damnit, how does a thing segfault in a frigging MATH operation? [06:30] er, sorry. [06:30] wrong tab in pidgin. a [07:40] is anyone able to boot to winxp/xp-x64-NTFS-partition from grub2? [07:45] i get the message "GRUB _" with a blinking cursor and nothing happening, especially the x64 makes my pc-speaker beep repeatingly at that moment [07:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/518007 [07:53] Ubuntu bug 518007 in udev "Asus Eee Function Keys (Hotkeys) are not working with Lucid 10.04" [Undecided,New] [07:54] I've field this yesterday. now I've one key working after doing update [07:54] the key is F7, it turns the screen off. [07:55] Damascene, you might want to "Add comment" to your bug with the updated info [07:56] I think so. but how to to collect package information and added to the report? [07:56] *add it [07:56] Damascene, ? dunno man [07:57] the os-prober works nice for the windows-oses even when i look for the grub.cfg it seems to be alright (uuids, hd0=a..,1=1) what is wrong? [07:57] OK, thank you any way [07:58] Damascene, can't you just use ubuntu-bug and select the same bug when the browser opens? i've never done it before [08:01] I tried that but only gave me the choice to chose if this bug effects me to or to subscribe to it. [08:01] should I ask the ubuntu bug people? [08:01] Damascene, do they have a channel? [08:01] yes :) [08:01] ubuntu-bug [08:02] but this is better for Lucid as I heard [08:02] Damascene, well there you go! they would be the people to ask on the "how to update" your bug for sure [08:03] I'll do. thank you [08:04] Here is the Pastebin. WIndows Xp broke from Grub. Everything looks alright. http://paste.ubuntu.com/370782/ [08:05] what does drivemap -s (hd0) ${root} is related to? [08:15] still broke :( [08:17] hey people I saw so many blog posts on the new me menu but I have [08:17] a fully updated lucid and I still don't see the text entry box and chat account and broadcast account and other new options [08:18] You need to log out and log in before it'll get loaded. [08:20] As long as they keep taking away the system-menu logout items, I WILL NOT use that "user" applet thingy. [08:20] ok [08:20] DanaG: which logout items are you referring to? [08:20] doesn't shutdown,etc have its own [08:20] menu beside the me menu [08:21] That's what I mean. [08:21] I want them in the NORMAL place, not in Ubuntu's weird place. [08:21] system->logou.......... wtf? where the heck is the logout item? [08:22] well it's a matter of opinion I guess. I find this more practically useful though less easier to find/use [08:22] tgpraveen: restart the system , or atleast the session ;) [08:22] Now, try logging out with keyboard. [08:22] * vish argh! just saw DanaG already replied to that :/ [08:22] vish: :-) [08:23] DanaG: there is a bug open for keyboard access for applets [08:23] hello am i muted or what? [08:23] specifically for the logout one [08:23] Still, I think the logout one should NOT remove the normal logout stuff! [08:23] CosmiChaos: heard your last msg [08:23] CosmiChaos: hello am i muted or what? [08:23] CosmiChaos: if someone knows/knew they would have replied ;) [08:24] thx for the ping [08:25] DanaG: i think you can revert that [system>logout option].. it is somewhere in the gconf[indicator applet turns it off] [08:27] vish: that hiding notifications in fullscreen isn't going to be fixed in lucid right? [08:27] tgpraveen: nope [08:28] :-( [08:28] tgpraveen: but it should be in time for lucid.. notify-osd has stalled for some time... they will pick it up again at some point [08:28] before release [08:29] vish: hmm iirc the notify-osd related blueprint said it was all postponed [08:29] they really haven't worked on anything in this area this cycle [08:29] tgpraveen: which? i dont think so.. [08:29] does "Multimedia Systems Selector" (method to select ALSA as default audio in 9.10) exist somewhere in Lucid? [08:30] tgpraveen: only recently i saw an update for notify-osd... it should be in the pipes soon.. its a high priority bug ;P [08:31] hope so [08:59] so was it determined that the problem with no drivers under hardware drivers is plymouth? === Guest16283 is now known as David-T === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre [09:37] Still booting Windows from grub2 is broke, stopping at GRUB _ (no error or warning) - http://paste.ubuntu.com/370782/ [09:43] anyone can help me? [09:43] tmw, not sure who is here right now but generally just ask a question [09:44] ok [09:44] is the lucid going to come is april? [09:44] coz [09:44] i have [09:44] yes [09:45] is it beta version? [09:45] tmw, yes at the end of April [09:45] that i have [09:45] !schedule | tmw [09:45] tmw: A schedule of Lucid Lynx (10.04) release milestones can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [09:45] my is beta version? [09:45] tmw, right now it is alpha 1 [09:45] tmw, if you have Lucid right now it's ALPHA - before beta [09:45] sorry alpha 2 [09:45] ok [09:46] coz_, tmw actually alpha 2 (you got it) [09:46] tmw, I guess you are having issues ? [09:46] i need the gnome 3 support [09:46] in ubuntu [09:46] tmw, gnome 3 will NOT be the default in Lucid [09:47] tmw: you can run gnome3 in Ubuntu as of now [09:47] so any way is there i can get it? [09:47] gnome3 and gnome-shell aren't the same thing. [09:47] ah and that too ^ ;) [09:47] tmw, gnome-shell is the interface that gnome3 will use - it can be installed in Karmic or Lucid [09:48] Assuming you actually mean gnome-shell, which is in karmic anyway, sudo apt-get install gnome-shell, and then run gnome-shell --replace, I think. [09:48] but how i can install it? [09:48] any website? [09:48] or command [09:48] sudo apt-get install gnome-shell [09:48] tmw: read what rww wrote :) [09:48] ok [09:49] there is a gnome 3.09 beta [09:49] never tried it though [09:49] i got another question [09:49] is there any way in which i can break the apt lock [09:50] so i can run many apt commands [09:50] no [09:50] tmw, i don't think so [09:50] ok [09:52] IN PROGRESSS [09:52] nix the gnome3 beta I mentioned [09:54] hmm [09:55] tmw, did you try it? [09:55] ya [09:55] its in progress [09:55] tmw, you mean installling? [09:58] hehe , Bug 518191 , something which was bugging me ;p [09:58] Launchpad bug 518191 in gwibber "Button state as "pressed" is more ideal and consistent system-wide" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518191 [10:00] was the "no drivers in hardware drivers" solve? I wasnt able to stick around yesterday [10:00] solved [10:03] ok [10:04] that was not good [10:04] black screen came first looked good [10:04] then [10:04] hell [10:04] ooo [10:05] o? [10:05] tmw1, I meant yikes that's not good... [10:05] tmw1, but last I tried it on Karmic it was not real impressive [10:06] tmw1, where is this 3.09 beta you speak of? [10:06] billybigrigger, that was me and I was stupid and not paying attention when I mentioned that [10:07] i thought 2.29 which is really 3.0 (correct??) wasn't going to be around for another year or so [10:07] or is it 2.30 = 3.0 [10:07] really [10:07] billybigrigger, I honestly have no idea [10:08] first black screen came and then i was not able to uderstand it [10:08] god knows what was it [10:08] tmw, well I works on 9.10 but as I said It is not impressive..and uses more resources at this stage than I like [10:09] This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time. [10:09] this came when i try to install using ubuntu software centre [10:12] So here is the bug-report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/518330 [10:12] Ubuntu bug 518330 in grub2 "Booting WindowsXp/Xp-X64 out of Grub2 just echos "GRUB _" blinking cursor" [Undecided,New] [10:16] i hope anybody willt ake this serious [10:17] anyone knows some games that need 3d accelration to run? [10:17] nexuiz [10:17] ^^ [10:17] glxgears xD [10:18] a small size game [10:19] i want to know whether my nvidia card can run it or not [10:19] can anybody fix my windows? xD [10:19] cosmi [10:19] what help u nedd? [10:19] tmw, if your looking for graphics benchmarking, you can try phoronix test suite [10:19] tmw, does glxgears currently work? [10:19] So here is the bug-report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/518330 [10:19] Ubuntu bug 518330 in grub2 "Booting WindowsXp/Xp-X64 out of Grub2 just echos "GRUB _" blinking cursor" [Undecided,New] [10:19] great linux benchmarking software, you can test disk, system, gfx, pretty much every aspect of your pc [10:19] glxgears command runs fine [10:20]