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doctormojmarsden: It's important to get educators onboard, mostly for the learning structures and experence in teaching05:15
doctormoAlthough getting technical people out into community centers, getting them setting up classes and teaching05:15
doctormoThat also helps05:15
doctormoSicne your getting technical writers the practical experence that gives the text meaning.05:15
doctormoAnd not just an oportunity to document things dryly05:15
jmarsdenRight.  So... we need a couple of "good" courses to attract these folks?  Which currently existing course segments are "already good"?  is there a wiki page with some sort of rough assessment of the state of each course or lesson?  Would that be useful?05:16
doctormohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning05:17
doctormoThe state of play is that we have various people learning how to write a course and being very unsure of just how to do it05:17
doctormoA couple of other people trying to put stuff together05:17
doctormotechnical issues etc05:18
jmarsden:)  OK... is there a page that lists the existing courses or modules somewhere there?? I'm not finding it easily...05:19
doctormojmarsden: Not really, what you see is outlines, what you'll see under systems administration (the maintain button) is links to my course pages in my blog05:27
doctormoThat about sums up what we've got published05:27
doctormoThe work it's self is going on in bazaar branches05:27
doctormohttps://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-learning-materials05:27
jmarsdenOK, thanks.  I'll grab them, and see about creating a branch of with a more filled out virtualization lesson if I have a chance...05:28
doctormojmarsden: That would truely be fantastic, we don't have anyone yet willing to rewrite that class and I was ashamed of what I could write since it's obvious I don't understand the subject more than the basics.05:30
doctormoOh and join the mailing list for announcements05:31
jmarsdenCan do.  So... the .odt files for the virtualization stuff are not under bzr control as far as I can see... I should grab them from your blog and edit my local copy?  And then push a branch up to LP and ask you to review it??05:31
doctormojmarsden: Yes, sounds perfect, I also have a blog page about how you contribute05:32
doctormohttp://doctormo.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/ground-control-demonstration/05:32
doctormoThat's the easy to use UI05:32
doctormohttp://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/uow-the-ubuntu-learning-project/05:33
doctormoThat's the guide for contributing05:33
jmarsdenOK, that's plenty to get me started, I think.  Thanks!05:34
doctormojmarsden: Your welcome,05:37
doctormoI think I might head to bed, I was hoping to find someone who would be able to test v1.3 of GC, but everyones scarpered05:37
jmarsdenOK, goodnight :)05:39
jmarsdenGC looks interesting as an idea, but I'm command-line-oriented enough not to really be a good candidate for testing it!05:40
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WvuSoldierhello?16:15
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doctormohey WvuSoldier16:32
WvuSoldierhows it going16:32
WvuSoldierI hear you need people to help build the learning modules16:33
doctormoWvuSoldier: We do16:34
doctormoWvuSoldier: What area would you like to write for?16:34
WvuSoldierI switched to Ubuntu a while ago, and its time I learned more about it. Do you need new users who are relatively tech-savy but Ubuntu illiterate?16:34
pleia2we could certainly use someone like you to review courses16:35
pleia2maybe read them and tell us what's unclear, what else you'd like to see in them16:35
WvuSoldierI would love to. It helps me get more fluent, and it helps you clarify whatever you've got already16:36
pleia2in a recent blog entry, I gave links to all the stuff that doctormo has written for the sysadmin course16:37
pleia2http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=248116:37
doctormoWvuSoldier: Don't forget to join the mailing list for updates and announcements.16:37
pleia2we're in the process of migrating it to a centralized revision control thing16:37
WvuSoldierI'll do that, I've got some free time today to get the ball rolling and see where we end up16:38
pleia2cool16:38
pleia2thanks for helping out!16:39
WvuSoldierits a win-win for everyone :)16:39
doctormoYes :-)16:39
WvuSoldierI'm particularly interested in becoming as fluent with the terminal as I was with DOS (back in the day)16:39
doctormopleia2: Things are going well with groundcontrol, hopefully we'll get it in universe for lucid and it'll make getting people to install it easier for our learning stuff.16:40
pleia2doctormo: that's great16:40
pleia2have you heard at all from nigel where he is on his course?16:40
doctormopleia2: No, unfortunatly this work means I'm not able to push him on it.16:42
pleia2yeah, same here16:42
pleia2and I don't want to push until I can offer to help :)16:42
pleia2so maybe after the move I'll follow-up16:42
WvuSoldierpleia2: I'll start by working through the "Command Line Basics" course and let you know my thoughts16:46
doctormoWvuSoldier: If you feel like contributing, bookmark this page: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/uow-the-ubuntu-learning-project/ it gives an outline of how to edit files and such.16:48
WvuSoldierwill do16:48
WvuSoldierI have a question you guys might be able to help me with18:53
WvuSoldierhow can I see what wireless card I've got installed in this machine?18:54
doctormoWvuSoldier: You could do an lspci from the command line18:55
WvuSoldierthank you18:55

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