[05:15] jmarsden: It's important to get educators onboard, mostly for the learning structures and experence in teaching [05:15] Although getting technical people out into community centers, getting them setting up classes and teaching [05:15] That also helps [05:15] Sicne your getting technical writers the practical experence that gives the text meaning. [05:15] And not just an oportunity to document things dryly [05:16] Right. So... we need a couple of "good" courses to attract these folks? Which currently existing course segments are "already good"? is there a wiki page with some sort of rough assessment of the state of each course or lesson? Would that be useful? [05:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning [05:17] The state of play is that we have various people learning how to write a course and being very unsure of just how to do it [05:17] A couple of other people trying to put stuff together [05:18] technical issues etc [05:19] :) OK... is there a page that lists the existing courses or modules somewhere there?? I'm not finding it easily... [05:27] jmarsden: Not really, what you see is outlines, what you'll see under systems administration (the maintain button) is links to my course pages in my blog [05:27] That about sums up what we've got published [05:27] The work it's self is going on in bazaar branches [05:27] https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-learning-materials [05:28] OK, thanks. I'll grab them, and see about creating a branch of with a more filled out virtualization lesson if I have a chance... [05:30] jmarsden: That would truely be fantastic, we don't have anyone yet willing to rewrite that class and I was ashamed of what I could write since it's obvious I don't understand the subject more than the basics. [05:31] Oh and join the mailing list for announcements [05:31] Can do. So... the .odt files for the virtualization stuff are not under bzr control as far as I can see... I should grab them from your blog and edit my local copy? And then push a branch up to LP and ask you to review it?? [05:32] jmarsden: Yes, sounds perfect, I also have a blog page about how you contribute [05:32] http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2010/01/27/ground-control-demonstration/ [05:32] That's the easy to use UI [05:33] http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/uow-the-ubuntu-learning-project/ [05:33] That's the guide for contributing [05:34] OK, that's plenty to get me started, I think. Thanks! [05:37] jmarsden: Your welcome, [05:37] I think I might head to bed, I was hoping to find someone who would be able to test v1.3 of GC, but everyones scarpered [05:39] OK, goodnight :) [05:40] GC looks interesting as an idea, but I'm command-line-oriented enough not to really be a good candidate for testing it! [11:04] hi nigel_nb [11:04] hey DiegoTc === lukjad007 is now known as cabaret [16:15] hello? === lukjad007 is now known as cabaret [16:32] hey WvuSoldier [16:32] hows it going [16:33] I hear you need people to help build the learning modules [16:34] WvuSoldier: We do [16:34] WvuSoldier: What area would you like to write for? [16:34] I switched to Ubuntu a while ago, and its time I learned more about it. Do you need new users who are relatively tech-savy but Ubuntu illiterate? [16:35] we could certainly use someone like you to review courses [16:35] maybe read them and tell us what's unclear, what else you'd like to see in them [16:36] I would love to. It helps me get more fluent, and it helps you clarify whatever you've got already [16:37] in a recent blog entry, I gave links to all the stuff that doctormo has written for the sysadmin course [16:37] http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=2481 [16:37] WvuSoldier: Don't forget to join the mailing list for updates and announcements. [16:37] we're in the process of migrating it to a centralized revision control thing [16:38] I'll do that, I've got some free time today to get the ball rolling and see where we end up [16:38] cool [16:39] thanks for helping out! [16:39] its a win-win for everyone :) [16:39] Yes :-) [16:39] I'm particularly interested in becoming as fluent with the terminal as I was with DOS (back in the day) [16:40] pleia2: Things are going well with groundcontrol, hopefully we'll get it in universe for lucid and it'll make getting people to install it easier for our learning stuff. [16:40] doctormo: that's great [16:40] have you heard at all from nigel where he is on his course? [16:42] pleia2: No, unfortunatly this work means I'm not able to push him on it. [16:42] yeah, same here [16:42] and I don't want to push until I can offer to help :) [16:42] so maybe after the move I'll follow-up [16:46] pleia2: I'll start by working through the "Command Line Basics" course and let you know my thoughts [16:48] WvuSoldier: If you feel like contributing, bookmark this page: http://doctormo.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/uow-the-ubuntu-learning-project/ it gives an outline of how to edit files and such. [16:48] will do [18:53] I have a question you guys might be able to help me with [18:54] how can I see what wireless card I've got installed in this machine? [18:55] WvuSoldier: You could do an lspci from the command line [18:55] thank you