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bazhangthought haven_489 was banned in -ot00:12
ubottuIn ubottu, tbc said: architectures is Here is a list of processor architectures that Ubuntu suppports: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html00:24
ubottuIn ubottu, tbc said: architectures is <reply> Here is a list of processor architectures that Ubuntu suppports: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/hardware-supported.html00:26
ubotturww called the ops in #ubuntu (zealot flooding and trolling)06:19
Dominianzealot again?06:20
tonyyarussoya06:21
tonyyarussopasting 1s and 0s...06:21
Dominianyeah he was doing that crap in #fn earlier06:22
tonyyarussogot highlighted from that one due to kompozer, but initially thought it was a mass-hilight - whoops.  Removed the ban, so just the remove and floodbot's temp-mute - perhaps he'll be back.07:04
DominianI'm in PM with him now.. for something in #fn... he's a bit odd07:09
DominianMaybe he'll get tired and go to bed07:09
mneptokIP-v6 [~IP-v6@85.102.117.9]09:45
mneptokoh the irony09:45
jussi01lol10:00
Tm_Tmneptok: oh the ironing10:00
* Tm_T hides10:00
ubottuIn #ubuntu, fakeer said: ubottu: this Supybot is so sensitive :)  Anyways..thanks..that was really annoying..10:29
jpdsjussi01: I'm pretty sure L-S was trolling in #u yesterday.10:51
jussi01jpds: yeah, Ive seen his nick also, however that doesnt stop me from pointing him in the right direction, sometimes thats all it takes to turn a troll into a valuable contributor.10:52
Tm_Tjussi01: indeed10:53
Myrttibreaken languake maeks difficult helpings.12:55
elkyi no rite.12:56
Myrtti[14:55] < acrush> i am using a slow net can i increase it fastly by anyway n  linux??12:57
Myrttiif I stare at it long enough, perhaps it starts to make sense12:57
Myrttioh, he's gone12:57
Myrttilife is hard12:57
elkyhe wanted to know if linux would make the internet faster for him12:58
Myrttioh, I read it as slot, not slow12:58
* Myrtti cleans her glasses12:58
Tm_TMyrtti: what you have in your glass?12:59
Myrttifingerprints12:59
Myrttiand in my glass, energy drink12:59
Tm_Tyeah, glass, glasses, cleaning glasses = drinking them empty13:00
Tm_T...oh I need sleep13:00
Tm_T!java13:19
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository13:19
Tm_Thmm, should that still be sun-java6-jre ?13:19
Myrttiwhat option is there?13:20
Myrttisun-java6-jre is still in the repos13:20
Tm_Thttp://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/default-jre points to http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/openjdk-6-jre13:21
Myrttiand some applications won't work with anything else than sun java.13:22
Myrttiand for that reason the sun java has to be mentioned13:22
jussi01that should also say something about the plugin imh13:22
jussi01imho13:22
Myrttifor example, Sampopankki.13:22
* jussi01 goes back to thesis...13:22
Tm_TMyrtti: ah, roger13:22
jussi01sampopankki are evil13:22
Myrttijussi01: yes, but we can't exactly tell people to go change their bank. Or we can, but for some people, it's not a viable option.13:23
jussi01doesnt make them any less evil...13:23
Myrttijussi01: indeed it doesn't13:23
Myrttifor example, I have to use their banking system until April 201313:23
topylithe factoid should still advertise the browser plugin as well13:24
topylithat is after all what most people actually want13:25
Myrtti!java ~= /runtime install sun-java6-jre/products search for sun-java6 -packages/13:25
ubottuI'll remember that Myrtti13:25
Myrtti!java13:26
ubottuTo install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java products search for sun-java6 -packages from the !Multiverse repository13:26
Myrttithere, now it covers jdk, jre and plugin13:26
Tm_T(:13:26
Myrttianything else I can help you with on this wonderful Sunday?13:30
jussi01Myrtti: Im trying to finish final bits of my thesis... want to do it for me? :D13:31
Tm_Tyes, have this lovely medium-roasted coffee with me13:31
Myrttijussi01: would you like to clean up my apartment, finish my hour reporting, do a bit of back massage and cook?13:32
Myrttiis today a totally random day at #ubuntu, or what?14:04
bazhangcmp seems not to be a native speaker14:04
MyrttiEgyptian, judging from IP14:06
bazhangaha14:06
bazhangwanted to install package named : packagename14:06
Myrttibecause ompaul gave it as an example14:06
bazhangmkanyisi still banned I presume14:37
bazhangincoming14:40
bazhangmkanyisi, thanks for joining14:40
mkanyisino problem14:41
mkanyisiso you said i should quit in #ubuntu and i did just that14:41
mkanyisiwhat next?14:41
bazhangjust a second14:42
bazhangmkanyicy77  was your previous nickname, correct?14:42
bazhangmkanyisi, ^^14:45
mkanyisiyes14:45
mkanyisican we please go straight to the point14:45
bazhangmkanyisi, you are still banned in #ubuntu , changing IP and nicknames is not the way to get this resolved.14:46
mkanyisibazhang, i dont have registered nicknames14:46
mkanyisiplus im on mobile broadband, so i dont have control to my ip addresses14:48
mkanyisiplus my ban period is over14:48
mkanyisiits kind of funny how you handle this as if it is my fault14:48
bazhangmkanyisi, not the point though. changing nicks to get back in when you are explicitly banned is not the way to go forward.14:48
mkanyisiexplicitly banned for how long?14:48
mkanyisihow am i supposed to know that even this day i am banned?14:48
bazhangmkanyisi, just curious: you say your ban period is over; where do you hear that from?14:48
mkanyisiand when i ask about my ban period everybody becomes silent14:49
mkanyisii know i was banned for 24 hours14:49
mkanyisiand i counted14:49
jussi01bazhang: may I?14:49
bazhangmkanyisi, If I recall correctly, you were asked to return here in 24hrs14:49
bazhangjussi01, may you what?14:50
jussi01nvm14:50
mkanyisi?14:50
mkanyisiwhat is nvm?14:50
bazhangnever mind14:50
bazhangjussi01, wished to resolve this I am guessing14:51
mkanyisiif i recall correctly, i was banned14:51
bazhangjussi01,  go right ahead.14:51
bazhangmkanyisi, please discuss with jussi0114:51
jussi01mkanyisi: our bans dont have a specific length of time14:51
jussi01mkanyisi: the idea being we want to seea change of attitude and behaviour.14:51
mkanyisiits kind of funny that its so ages ago that everyone has to 'remember correctly'14:52
mkanyisi24 hours is way gone14:52
jussi01now Im not certain of what the ban here is for (bazhang?) but we dont generally set timelimits on bans14:52
mkanyisiand that is against the ubuntu policies14:52
jussi01mkanyisi: what we do say is go awayand think about it, and come back to talk to us to demonstrate a change.14:53
mkanyisido you mean the ban is forever?14:54
mkanyisii was never banned before14:54
jussi01mkanyisi: no, its until Ive reviewed it and your behaviour.14:54
mkanyisiand when i tried coming here to discuss the ban issue, no one was interested to talk14:55
jussi01so if you might, please give me a moent to look into it and then we can talk about it properly.14:55
mkanyisimy behaviour?14:55
ikoniathis was my ban14:55
mkanyisihow are you going to review my behaviour?14:55
mkanyisiehehehehe14:55
jussi01mkanyisi: you got banned for something, Im going to check out what that was, please give me a moment14:55
mkanyisiwho's ban is this?14:56
ikoniamine14:56
ikoniaI placed the ban on you14:56
mkanyisii was banned because i excessively used !hi14:56
ikoniano you where not14:56
mkanyisiand i greeted everyone14:56
jussi01ikonia: could you fill me on the details please14:56
ikoniathat was what started it, your attitude post that was what got you banned and your attempts to flood me14:56
mkanyisithis ban has made me to learn to stay away from !hi14:57
ikoniajussi01: sure, mkanyisi was greeting everyone with !hi when they entered the channel, he was asked to stop by rww and gave rww !hi back in response to try to be clever14:57
mkanyisimaybe my friendliness levels has to drop either14:57
ikoniajussi01: he then got asked to stop by myself and started getting rude towards people14:57
ikoniahe was banned, tried to ban dodg14:57
ikoniadodge14:57
jussi01mkanyisi: wait a moment please14:58
ikoniathen started flooding me to the point where I got freenode (niko) involved,14:58
ikonia(but I blieve that was an accident)14:58
jussi01ok.14:58
mkanyisican we proceed?14:59
ikoniatold lies about not being "warned" and was caught out about liing14:59
jussi01mkanyisi: please wait just a moment more14:59
ikoniabelieves he did nothing wrong - and as you can see is already trying to twist things by saying he was banned for using !hi when he clearly knows why he was banned14:59
mkanyisijussi01, ok14:59
jussi01mkanyisi: the reason we dont greet everyone is #ubuntu because it is already an extremely busy channel and that adds to the scroll, making it much harder for users to get problems fixed. Now as for the being rude to ikonia and others, that is not acceptable. do you understand why we banned you?15:00
jussi01!coc | mkanyisi15:01
ubottumkanyisi: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct is a community etiquette document to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere, and can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ .  For information on how to electronically sign the CoC, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SigningCodeofConduct .15:01
jussi01!guidelines | mkanyisi15:01
ubottumkanyisi: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:01
mkanyisijussi01, I understand15:01
jussi01mkanyisi: those documents point out how we expect users to behave in the ubuntu channels and areas15:01
mkanyisijussi01, and i am sorry that i greeted ikonia and rww too much15:01
jussi01mkanyisi: could you commit to reading those?15:02
ikoniamkanyisi: you where not banned for greeting people - and you konw that15:02
mkanyisijussi01, yes, i am more than willing to go there15:02
mkanyisijussi01, you can ban me an additional day just to read the guidlines15:02
ikoniayou're already banned15:03
mkanyisiikonia, i know, my humour is dry15:03
ikoniait's not appropriate here15:03
jussi01mkanyisi: It should only take you a little while. However, drop back here when you have read them, and we can have another quick chat.15:03
mkanyisiok15:04
mkanyisii will leave now15:04
mkanyisiwill be back later on, thanks15:04
jussi01see you15:04
bazhangwell he joined from my PM, so perhaps he can turn it around (also parted #ubuntu on request)15:05
bazhangjussi01, sorry missed your PM, was away15:06
jussi01yeah, if he has read the guidelines, let him have another chance15:06
jussi01Im off to thesis work again.... :(15:06
bazhanghe was in earlier and actually helping people, did not make the connection until he just re-joined a bit ago15:07
bazhangwhat is eremite on about15:31
bazhangquite similar behaviour language as eremite/hydrosis in bt, nearly identical IP16:08
bazhangerr scratch that16:09
bazhanghydrosis16:09
bazhangeremite had this issue before Jan 2416:09
Tm_Tso if it is the ubuntu one thing, he should just close it16:14
bazhangits simple to change in firefox as has been suggested numerous times16:14
mkanyicyhi17:14
mkanyicyi am back17:15
mkanyicyi read the CoC and the IRC guidelines and this is what i realised:17:15
mkanyicy1. I am guilty of bot abuse17:15
mkanyicy2. I am guilty of annoying and flooding17:15
mkanyicyis anyone around here?17:17
Tm_Tmkanyicy: yes17:17
mkanyicyok17:17
Tm_Tjussi01: ikonia: ^17:17
mkanyicyjussi01, ikonia, Tm_T, what is the next step from here on?17:19
jussi011 sec17:19
Tm_Tmkanyicy: wait for answer from jussi01 (:17:19
jussi01on phone17:19
mkanyicyjussi01, ok, no problem17:20
jussi01sorry, will be a sec still17:21
Tm_Tmkanyicy: can I get you coffee while we're waiting?17:21
* Tm_T gets some coffee and bisquits for himself17:22
jussi01mkanyicy: ok, Ill get the ban removed just as soon as I can get this bantracker working. Please remember to play nice in #ubuntu and consider others.17:24
mkanyicygood idea, Tm_T, hope it won't burn me when I hear bad news though ;)17:25
mkanyicyi'd like to apologise for my past actions, ikonia im sorry17:26
mkanyicyjussi01, thank you sir17:26
jussi01mkanyicy: I need to run, Tm_Tqill sort you out.17:26
mkanyicyok17:27
mkanyicyjussi01, Tm_T i will leave now, will connect back 1 hour later. cheers17:28
Myrttione wonders what distro Sonja is using herself18:54
ikonia$10 says mint18:54
* Myrtti bangs head on the keyboard19:07
ikoniaha ha19:07
Myrttiit's difficult business, this IRC thing19:08
ikoniaha ha19:09
Myrttisomeone whack him with !enter19:09
MoPiGuest17851 is a spambot: " Visit us at network chat and get bots + hosting special and free, Ntmana stopping as soon as possible, sorry for the inconvenience   /server IRC.ForChat.Net  "19:10
ikoniaMoPi: where did you get that19:11
ikoniaujjain: yes ? can we help you ?19:11
MoPiprivmsg, when i joined #ubuntu19:11
ikoniaMoPi: I'll look at it now, thank you19:11
MyrttiI cycled and didn't get anything19:12
ikoniaujjain: dbertaso do you need something ?19:12
dbertasoyes19:12
=== ikonia_ is now known as the_tester
ujjainI would like to have ops :)19:12
dbertasoI will Know why ubuntu 9.10 desktop 64 bits don't recognize more 3gB19:13
dbertasoof ram excuse19:13
ikoniaujjain: at the moment we don't need more operators19:13
ikoniadbertaso: ask in #ubuntu - that's a support channel,19:13
ikoniadbertaso: please check the topic of this channel19:13
dbertasothank you19:14
ikonianothing for me19:15
ujjain:) ok19:16
Myrttinothing for me either19:16
MoPiOK, i just thought you would like to know, don't know this guy and it seemed like weird to be sent this stuff.19:17
Myrtti@random ikonia Myrtti19:17
ubottuMyrtti19:17
Myrttidamnit19:17
ikoniaMoPi: understood19:17
Myrttiikonia: I'll pm him/it19:17
ikoniaMoPi: still looking into it19:17
Myrttiif you're not19:17
ikoniaMyrtti: thanks19:17
ikoniaI've not touched yet19:17
ikoniaujjain: dbertaso do you need anything more from us ?19:18
ujjainno :)19:21
Myrttidoesn't respond to pm, while idle is low19:21
ujjainbut I am unable to leave this channel. I don't know how in Konversation.19:21
ujjainI don't want to be kicked though :(19:21
ikoniaujjain: type "/part"19:24
ujjainWell, I will miss everybody19:25
ikoniaok, bye19:25
ujjainIf you ever need a mod, you know where I live.19:25
Myrttiso, what should we do19:30
Myrttino response yet19:30
ikoniawell, 1 report...and no other channels complaining, not much to go on19:31
Tm_Tif more complaints / other trails of spam, then act19:31
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Rush3d)19:47
ikoniaspeaking to rush19:51
ubottuIn ubottu, guntbert said: !no serververguide is ~= s/8.04/9.10/20:08
Myrtti!serverguide20:09
ubottuThe Ubuntu server guide may be found at http://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/20:09
Myrttimy eye starts to twitch20:10
Myrtti[22:41] < MohammadAG> Guest17851, seems to be a spam bot20:42
Myrttithat's from #maemo20:42
Myrttikicking now20:42
ikoniaagreed20:42
ikoniait's in quite a few channels, maybe worth freenode guys having a look at it20:43
Myrttishould we call the big wooden stick?20:43
Myrttiindeed20:43
ikoniawell hello......20:44
guntbertdid my edit request for !serverguide make it till here and was it clear?20:44
ikoniaI've not seen it, but it maybe the noe Myrtti was looking at20:44
Myrttiit did make here, though you did typo the command.20:45
MyrttiI'm a bit ambiguous about changing it20:45
guntbertMyrtti: what was wrong?20:45
Myrttiwell, you typed serververguide instead of serverguide, but anyway20:45
guntbertMyrtti: oh ...20:46
ikoniaguntbert: hang your head in shame...20:46
FlannelI'm not sure 9.10 would be best anyway20:46
Myrttimy problem is that if there's no specific need for the server to have the stuff that 9.10 has, I'd not suggest it over 8.0420:46
guntbertikonia: so deep it bangs on the keyboard :)20:46
ikoniagood20:46
MyrttiI know there is specific stuff in 9.10 that some people would need, like eucalyptus, but other than that, I'm not sure they'd outweigh the benefit of LTS server20:47
guntbertMyrtti: I guess the serverguide gets updated too - I'd prefer a generic url anyway (like serverguide/current or so)20:47
Flannelguntbert: Servers probably aren't on 9.10 anyway20:48
guntbertFlannel: good point - except my VM :) (testing purposes only)20:49
Myrtti!staff | Guest17851 spams in pm, #maemo #ubuntu perhaps others20:50
ubottuGuest17851 spams in pm, #maemo #ubuntu perhaps others: Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, Dave2, Christel, tomaw, Gary, PriceChild, niko or stew, I could use a bit of your time :)20:50
guntbertok Myrtti I'm gonna leave it to you anyway - have a nice time20:50
ikoniaMyrtti: trying to provoke an awaking from someone in #freenode20:50
Myrttihilights are always effective20:50
ikoniathe certainly are20:51
Myrttilooks like someone is getting support for their mint20:57
Myrttier?21:07
jussi01err?21:08
jussi01staffers want to explain please?21:08
Flannelarrr!21:08
Tm_Tpyfibot?!21:08
* Tm_T hides21:08
jussi01MK-BB: Is there somethig we can help you with?21:09
Myrttiah-ha, Lorez is awake21:10
GaryMyrtti: have you confirmed the spam?21:19
MyrttiGary: I've tried, so has ikonia, without avail. I got a confirming message from #maemo though, without asking for it21:21
jussi01For all those who are wondering, idoru is here for the PM spamming issues.21:22
Tm_Twhat does it do?21:22
GaryMyrtti: thanks21:22
jussi01Tm_T: it bites you21:23
MyrttiI didnt' want to ask for a confirmation just so I'd not taint the result21:23
Tm_Tjussi01: I'm not dry chewing bones yet21:23
Myrttihttp://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-02-07.log.html#t2010-02-07T22:41:2621:24
GaryMyrtti: it's gone, I trust you, and it was confirmed by another user21:25
Myrttiyup21:25
Myrtti21:25
Garyaww21:26
MyrttiI need to bake you cookies21:26
GaryI'd love cookies21:27
MyrttiI'll see what I can do when I'm in UK21:28
Garyyay21:29
Garywhen are you coming here?21:29
Myrttibefore March 21st21:29
Myrttiwatch out at #ubuntu21:37
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from z3r0-0n3)22:16
Piciwhat the?23:19
ikonia?23:20
Tm_TwOLFFF23:21
Picisebsebseb seemingly randomly called !women to someone23:22
Tm_Toh23:22
Tm_Twe might need op in -w actually, soon23:22
PiciI have access there.23:22
Tm_Tgood23:23
ikonialooks bad23:23
Tm_Tno I don't23:24
ikoniathe channel !23:24
ikoniaTm_T: he's a known troll, ISP and real name23:26
ikoniaeddie edwards was a famous "joke" uk athelete23:26
Tm_The is not a joke23:26
ikoniaquestionable23:26
Tm_Tikonia: great athlete (:)23:26
ikoniabold of you to say so23:27
Tm_TI know I'm bold, but not bald23:27
PiciTalking to sebsebseb about reccomending #ubuntu-women.23:31
ikoniagood call23:32
Tm_Taww23:32
Picieducation complete :)23:40
ikoniatook it well ?23:40
PiciYeah23:40
ikoniaexcellent23:41
elkyis that why we have that collection of stupid in there today?23:56
Tm_Tapparently so23:56
PiciI just happened to see it too.23:57

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