[00:12] <bazhang> thought haven_489 was banned in -ot
[06:20] <Dominian> zealot again?
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> ya
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> pasting 1s and 0s...
[06:22] <Dominian> yeah he was doing that crap in #fn earlier
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> got highlighted from that one due to kompozer, but initially thought it was a mass-hilight - whoops.  Removed the ban, so just the remove and floodbot's temp-mute - perhaps he'll be back.
[07:09] <Dominian> I'm in PM with him now.. for something in #fn... he's a bit odd
[07:09] <Dominian> Maybe he'll get tired and go to bed
[09:45] <mneptok> IP-v6 [~IP-v6@85.102.117.9]
[09:45] <mneptok> oh the irony
[10:00] <jussi01> lol
[10:00] <Tm_T> mneptok: oh the ironing
[10:00]  * Tm_T hides
[10:51] <jpds> jussi01: I'm pretty sure L-S was trolling in #u yesterday.
[10:52] <jussi01> jpds: yeah, Ive seen his nick also, however that doesnt stop me from pointing him in the right direction, sometimes thats all it takes to turn a troll into a valuable contributor.
[10:53] <Tm_T> jussi01: indeed
[12:55] <Myrtti> breaken languake maeks difficult helpings.
[12:56] <elky> i no rite.
[12:57] <Myrtti> [14:55] < acrush> i am using a slow net can i increase it fastly by anyway n  linux??
[12:57] <Myrtti> if I stare at it long enough, perhaps it starts to make sense
[12:57] <Myrtti> oh, he's gone
[12:57] <Myrtti> life is hard
[12:58] <elky> he wanted to know if linux would make the internet faster for him
[12:58] <Myrtti> oh, I read it as slot, not slow
[12:58]  * Myrtti cleans her glasses
[12:59] <Tm_T> Myrtti: what you have in your glass?
[12:59] <Myrtti> fingerprints
[12:59] <Myrtti> and in my glass, energy drink
[13:00] <Tm_T> yeah, glass, glasses, cleaning glasses = drinking them empty
[13:00] <Tm_T> ...oh I need sleep
[13:19] <Tm_T> !java
[13:19] <Tm_T> hmm, should that still be sun-java6-jre ?
[13:20] <Myrtti> what option is there?
[13:20] <Myrtti> sun-java6-jre is still in the repos
[13:21] <Tm_T> http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/default-jre points to http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/openjdk-6-jre
[13:22] <Myrtti> and some applications won't work with anything else than sun java.
[13:22] <Myrtti> and for that reason the sun java has to be mentioned
[13:22] <jussi01> that should also say something about the plugin imh
[13:22] <jussi01> imho
[13:22] <Myrtti> for example, Sampopankki.
[13:22]  * jussi01 goes back to thesis...
[13:22] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ah, roger
[13:22] <jussi01> sampopankki are evil
[13:23] <Myrtti> jussi01: yes, but we can't exactly tell people to go change their bank. Or we can, but for some people, it's not a viable option.
[13:23] <jussi01> doesnt make them any less evil...
[13:23] <Myrtti> jussi01: indeed it doesn't
[13:23] <Myrtti> for example, I have to use their banking system until April 2013
[13:24] <topyli> the factoid should still advertise the browser plugin as well
[13:25] <topyli> that is after all what most people actually want
[13:25] <Myrtti> !java ~= /runtime install sun-java6-jre/products search for sun-java6 -packages/
[13:26] <Myrtti> !java
[13:26] <Myrtti> there, now it covers jdk, jre and plugin
[13:26] <Tm_T> (:
[13:30] <Myrtti> anything else I can help you with on this wonderful Sunday?
[13:31] <jussi01> Myrtti: Im trying to finish final bits of my thesis... want to do it for me? :D
[13:31] <Tm_T> yes, have this lovely medium-roasted coffee with me
[13:32] <Myrtti> jussi01: would you like to clean up my apartment, finish my hour reporting, do a bit of back massage and cook?
[14:04] <Myrtti> is today a totally random day at #ubuntu, or what?
[14:04] <bazhang> cmp seems not to be a native speaker
[14:06] <Myrtti> Egyptian, judging from IP
[14:06] <bazhang> aha
[14:06] <bazhang> wanted to install package named : packagename
[14:06] <Myrtti> because ompaul gave it as an example
[14:37] <bazhang> mkanyisi still banned I presume
[14:40] <bazhang> incoming
[14:40] <bazhang> mkanyisi, thanks for joining
[14:41] <mkanyisi> no problem
[14:41] <mkanyisi> so you said i should quit in #ubuntu and i did just that
[14:41] <mkanyisi> what next?
[14:42] <bazhang> just a second
[14:42] <bazhang> mkanyicy77  was your previous nickname, correct?
[14:45] <bazhang> mkanyisi, ^^
[14:45] <mkanyisi> yes
[14:45] <mkanyisi> can we please go straight to the point
[14:46] <bazhang> mkanyisi, you are still banned in #ubuntu , changing IP and nicknames is not the way to get this resolved.
[14:46] <mkanyisi> bazhang, i dont have registered nicknames
[14:48] <mkanyisi> plus im on mobile broadband, so i dont have control to my ip addresses
[14:48] <mkanyisi> plus my ban period is over
[14:48] <mkanyisi> its kind of funny how you handle this as if it is my fault
[14:48] <bazhang> mkanyisi, not the point though. changing nicks to get back in when you are explicitly banned is not the way to go forward.
[14:48] <mkanyisi> explicitly banned for how long?
[14:48] <mkanyisi> how am i supposed to know that even this day i am banned?
[14:48] <bazhang> mkanyisi, just curious: you say your ban period is over; where do you hear that from?
[14:49] <mkanyisi> and when i ask about my ban period everybody becomes silent
[14:49] <mkanyisi> i know i was banned for 24 hours
[14:49] <mkanyisi> and i counted
[14:49] <jussi01> bazhang: may I?
[14:49] <bazhang> mkanyisi, If I recall correctly, you were asked to return here in 24hrs
[14:50] <bazhang> jussi01, may you what?
[14:50] <jussi01> nvm
[14:50] <mkanyisi> ?
[14:50] <mkanyisi> what is nvm?
[14:50] <bazhang> never mind
[14:51] <bazhang> jussi01, wished to resolve this I am guessing
[14:51] <mkanyisi> if i recall correctly, i was banned
[14:51] <bazhang> jussi01,  go right ahead.
[14:51] <bazhang> mkanyisi, please discuss with jussi01
[14:51] <jussi01> mkanyisi: our bans dont have a specific length of time
[14:51] <jussi01> mkanyisi: the idea being we want to seea change of attitude and behaviour.
[14:52] <mkanyisi> its kind of funny that its so ages ago that everyone has to 'remember correctly'
[14:52] <mkanyisi> 24 hours is way gone
[14:52] <jussi01> now Im not certain of what the ban here is for (bazhang?) but we dont generally set timelimits on bans
[14:52] <mkanyisi> and that is against the ubuntu policies
[14:53] <jussi01> mkanyisi: what we do say is go awayand think about it, and come back to talk to us to demonstrate a change.
[14:54] <mkanyisi> do you mean the ban is forever?
[14:54] <mkanyisi> i was never banned before
[14:54] <jussi01> mkanyisi: no, its until Ive reviewed it and your behaviour.
[14:55] <mkanyisi> and when i tried coming here to discuss the ban issue, no one was interested to talk
[14:55] <jussi01> so if you might, please give me a moent to look into it and then we can talk about it properly.
[14:55] <mkanyisi> my behaviour?
[14:55] <ikonia> this was my ban
[14:55] <mkanyisi> how are you going to review my behaviour?
[14:55] <mkanyisi> ehehehehe
[14:55] <jussi01> mkanyisi: you got banned for something, Im going to check out what that was, please give me a moment
[14:56] <mkanyisi> who's ban is this?
[14:56] <ikonia> mine
[14:56] <ikonia> I placed the ban on you
[14:56] <mkanyisi> i was banned because i excessively used !hi
[14:56] <ikonia> no you where not
[14:56] <mkanyisi> and i greeted everyone
[14:56] <jussi01> ikonia: could you fill me on the details please
[14:56] <ikonia> that was what started it, your attitude post that was what got you banned and your attempts to flood me
[14:57] <mkanyisi> this ban has made me to learn to stay away from !hi
[14:57] <ikonia> jussi01: sure, mkanyisi was greeting everyone with !hi when they entered the channel, he was asked to stop by rww and gave rww !hi back in response to try to be clever
[14:57] <mkanyisi> maybe my friendliness levels has to drop either
[14:57] <ikonia> jussi01: he then got asked to stop by myself and started getting rude towards people
[14:57] <ikonia> he was banned, tried to ban dodg
[14:57] <ikonia> dodge
[14:58] <jussi01> mkanyisi: wait a moment please
[14:58] <ikonia> then started flooding me to the point where I got freenode (niko) involved,
[14:58] <ikonia> (but I blieve that was an accident)
[14:58] <jussi01> ok.
[14:59] <mkanyisi> can we proceed?
[14:59] <ikonia> told lies about not being "warned" and was caught out about liing
[14:59] <jussi01> mkanyisi: please wait just a moment more
[14:59] <ikonia> believes he did nothing wrong - and as you can see is already trying to twist things by saying he was banned for using !hi when he clearly knows why he was banned
[14:59] <mkanyisi> jussi01, ok
[15:00] <jussi01> mkanyisi: the reason we dont greet everyone is #ubuntu because it is already an extremely busy channel and that adds to the scroll, making it much harder for users to get problems fixed. Now as for the being rude to ikonia and others, that is not acceptable. do you understand why we banned you?
[15:01] <jussi01> !coc | mkanyisi
[15:01] <jussi01> !guidelines | mkanyisi
[15:01] <mkanyisi> jussi01, I understand
[15:01] <jussi01> mkanyisi: those documents point out how we expect users to behave in the ubuntu channels and areas
[15:01] <mkanyisi> jussi01, and i am sorry that i greeted ikonia and rww too much
[15:02] <jussi01> mkanyisi: could you commit to reading those?
[15:02] <ikonia> mkanyisi: you where not banned for greeting people - and you konw that
[15:02] <mkanyisi> jussi01, yes, i am more than willing to go there
[15:02] <mkanyisi> jussi01, you can ban me an additional day just to read the guidlines
[15:03] <ikonia> you're already banned
[15:03] <mkanyisi> ikonia, i know, my humour is dry
[15:03] <ikonia> it's not appropriate here
[15:03] <jussi01> mkanyisi: It should only take you a little while. However, drop back here when you have read them, and we can have another quick chat.
[15:04] <mkanyisi> ok
[15:04] <mkanyisi> i will leave now
[15:04] <mkanyisi> will be back later on, thanks
[15:04] <jussi01> see you
[15:05] <bazhang> well he joined from my PM, so perhaps he can turn it around (also parted #ubuntu on request)
[15:06] <bazhang> jussi01, sorry missed your PM, was away
[15:06] <jussi01> yeah, if he has read the guidelines, let him have another chance
[15:06] <jussi01> Im off to thesis work again.... :(
[15:07] <bazhang> he was in earlier and actually helping people, did not make the connection until he just re-joined a bit ago
[15:31] <bazhang> what is eremite on about
[16:08] <bazhang> quite similar behaviour language as eremite/hydrosis in bt, nearly identical IP
[16:09] <bazhang> err scratch that
[16:09] <bazhang> hydrosis
[16:09] <bazhang> eremite had this issue before Jan 24
[16:14] <Tm_T> so if it is the ubuntu one thing, he should just close it
[16:14] <bazhang> its simple to change in firefox as has been suggested numerous times
[17:14] <mkanyicy> hi
[17:15] <mkanyicy> i am back
[17:15] <mkanyicy> i read the CoC and the IRC guidelines and this is what i realised:
[17:15] <mkanyicy> 1. I am guilty of bot abuse
[17:15] <mkanyicy> 2. I am guilty of annoying and flooding
[17:17] <mkanyicy> is anyone around here?
[17:17] <Tm_T> mkanyicy: yes
[17:17] <mkanyicy> ok
[17:17] <Tm_T> jussi01: ikonia: ^
[17:19] <mkanyicy> jussi01, ikonia, Tm_T, what is the next step from here on?
[17:19] <jussi01> 1 sec
[17:19] <Tm_T> mkanyicy: wait for answer from jussi01 (:
[17:19] <jussi01> on phone
[17:20] <mkanyicy> jussi01, ok, no problem
[17:21] <jussi01> sorry, will be a sec still
[17:21] <Tm_T> mkanyicy: can I get you coffee while we're waiting?
[17:22]  * Tm_T gets some coffee and bisquits for himself
[17:24] <jussi01> mkanyicy: ok, Ill get the ban removed just as soon as I can get this bantracker working. Please remember to play nice in #ubuntu and consider others.
[17:25] <mkanyicy> good idea, Tm_T, hope it won't burn me when I hear bad news though ;)
[17:26] <mkanyicy> i'd like to apologise for my past actions, ikonia im sorry
[17:26] <mkanyicy> jussi01, thank you sir
[17:26] <jussi01> mkanyicy: I need to run, Tm_Tqill sort you out.
[17:27] <mkanyicy> ok
[17:28] <mkanyicy> jussi01, Tm_T i will leave now, will connect back 1 hour later. cheers
[18:54] <Myrtti> one wonders what distro Sonja is using herself
[18:54] <ikonia> $10 says mint
[19:07]  * Myrtti bangs head on the keyboard
[19:07] <ikonia> ha ha
[19:08] <Myrtti> it's difficult business, this IRC thing
[19:09] <ikonia> ha ha
[19:09] <Myrtti> someone whack him with !enter
[19:10] <MoPi> Guest17851 is a spambot: " Visit us at network chat and get bots + hosting special and free, Ntmana stopping as soon as possible, sorry for the inconvenience   /server IRC.ForChat.Net  "
[19:11] <ikonia> MoPi: where did you get that
[19:11] <ikonia> ujjain: yes ? can we help you ?
[19:11] <MoPi> privmsg, when i joined #ubuntu
[19:11] <ikonia> MoPi: I'll look at it now, thank you
[19:12] <Myrtti> I cycled and didn't get anything
[19:12] <ikonia> ujjain: dbertaso do you need something ?
[19:12] <dbertaso> yes
[19:12] <ujjain> I would like to have ops :)
[19:13] <dbertaso> I will Know why ubuntu 9.10 desktop 64 bits don't recognize more 3gB
[19:13] <dbertaso> of ram excuse
[19:13] <ikonia> ujjain: at the moment we don't need more operators
[19:13] <ikonia> dbertaso: ask in #ubuntu - that's a support channel,
[19:13] <ikonia> dbertaso: please check the topic of this channel
[19:14] <dbertaso> thank you
[19:15] <ikonia> nothing for me
[19:16] <ujjain> :) ok
[19:16] <Myrtti> nothing for me either
[19:17] <MoPi> OK, i just thought you would like to know, don't know this guy and it seemed like weird to be sent this stuff.
[19:17] <Myrtti> @random ikonia Myrtti
[19:17] <Myrtti> damnit
[19:17] <ikonia> MoPi: understood
[19:17] <Myrtti> ikonia: I'll pm him/it
[19:17] <ikonia> MoPi: still looking into it
[19:17] <Myrtti> if you're not
[19:17] <ikonia> Myrtti: thanks
[19:17] <ikonia> I've not touched yet
[19:18] <ikonia> ujjain: dbertaso do you need anything more from us ?
[19:21] <ujjain> no :)
[19:21] <Myrtti> doesn't respond to pm, while idle is low
[19:21] <ujjain> but I am unable to leave this channel. I don't know how in Konversation.
[19:21] <ujjain> I don't want to be kicked though :(
[19:24] <ikonia> ujjain: type "/part"
[19:25] <ujjain> Well, I will miss everybody
[19:25] <ikonia> ok, bye
[19:25] <ujjain> If you ever need a mod, you know where I live.
[19:30] <Myrtti> so, what should we do
[19:30] <Myrtti> no response yet
[19:31] <ikonia> well, 1 report...and no other channels complaining, not much to go on
[19:31] <Tm_T> if more complaints / other trails of spam, then act
[19:51] <ikonia> speaking to rush
[20:09] <Myrtti> !serverguide
[20:10] <Myrtti> my eye starts to twitch
[20:42] <Myrtti> [22:41] < MohammadAG> Guest17851, seems to be a spam bot
[20:42] <Myrtti> that's from #maemo
[20:42] <Myrtti> kicking now
[20:42] <ikonia> agreed
[20:43] <ikonia> it's in quite a few channels, maybe worth freenode guys having a look at it
[20:43] <Myrtti> should we call the big wooden stick?
[20:43] <Myrtti> indeed
[20:44] <ikonia> well hello......
[20:44] <guntbert> did my edit request for !serverguide make it till here and was it clear?
[20:44] <ikonia> I've not seen it, but it maybe the noe Myrtti was looking at
[20:45] <Myrtti> it did make here, though you did typo the command.
[20:45] <Myrtti> I'm a bit ambiguous about changing it
[20:45] <guntbert> Myrtti: what was wrong?
[20:45] <Myrtti> well, you typed serververguide instead of serverguide, but anyway
[20:46] <guntbert> Myrtti: oh ...
[20:46] <ikonia> guntbert: hang your head in shame...
[20:46] <Flannel> I'm not sure 9.10 would be best anyway
[20:46] <Myrtti> my problem is that if there's no specific need for the server to have the stuff that 9.10 has, I'd not suggest it over 8.04
[20:46] <guntbert> ikonia: so deep it bangs on the keyboard :)
[20:46] <ikonia> good
[20:47] <Myrtti> I know there is specific stuff in 9.10 that some people would need, like eucalyptus, but other than that, I'm not sure they'd outweigh the benefit of LTS server
[20:47] <guntbert> Myrtti: I guess the serverguide gets updated too - I'd prefer a generic url anyway (like serverguide/current or so)
[20:48] <Flannel> guntbert: Servers probably aren't on 9.10 anyway
[20:49] <guntbert> Flannel: good point - except my VM :) (testing purposes only)
[20:50] <Myrtti> !staff | Guest17851 spams in pm, #maemo #ubuntu perhaps others
[20:50] <guntbert> ok Myrtti I'm gonna leave it to you anyway - have a nice time
[20:50] <ikonia> Myrtti: trying to provoke an awaking from someone in #freenode
[20:50] <Myrtti> hilights are always effective
[20:51] <ikonia> the certainly are
[20:57] <Myrtti> looks like someone is getting support for their mint
[21:07] <Myrtti> er?
[21:08] <jussi01> err?
[21:08] <jussi01> staffers want to explain please?
[21:08] <Flannel> arrr!
[21:08] <Tm_T> pyfibot?!
[21:08]  * Tm_T hides
[21:09] <jussi01> MK-BB: Is there somethig we can help you with?
[21:10] <Myrtti> ah-ha, Lorez is awake
[21:19] <Gary> Myrtti: have you confirmed the spam?
[21:21] <Myrtti> Gary: I've tried, so has ikonia, without avail. I got a confirming message from #maemo though, without asking for it
[21:22] <jussi01> For all those who are wondering, idoru is here for the PM spamming issues.
[21:22] <Tm_T> what does it do?
[21:22] <Gary> Myrtti: thanks
[21:23] <jussi01> Tm_T: it bites you
[21:23] <Myrtti> I didnt' want to ask for a confirmation just so I'd not taint the result
[21:23] <Tm_T> jussi01: I'm not dry chewing bones yet
[21:24] <Myrtti> http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-02-07.log.html#t2010-02-07T22:41:26
[21:25] <Gary> Myrtti: it's gone, I trust you, and it was confirmed by another user
[21:25] <Myrtti> yup
[21:25] <Myrtti> ♥
[21:26] <Gary> aww
[21:26] <Myrtti> I need to bake you cookies
[21:27] <Gary> I'd love cookies
[21:28] <Myrtti> I'll see what I can do when I'm in UK
[21:29] <Gary> yay
[21:29] <Gary> when are you coming here?
[21:29] <Myrtti> before March 21st
[21:37] <Myrtti> watch out at #ubuntu
[23:19] <Pici> what the?
[23:20] <ikonia> ?
[23:21] <Tm_T> wOLFFF
[23:22] <Pici> sebsebseb seemingly randomly called !women to someone
[23:22] <Tm_T> oh
[23:22] <Tm_T> we might need op in -w actually, soon
[23:22] <Pici> I have access there.
[23:23] <Tm_T> good
[23:23] <ikonia> looks bad
[23:24] <Tm_T> no I don't
[23:24] <ikonia> the channel !
[23:26] <ikonia> Tm_T: he's a known troll, ISP and real name
[23:26] <ikonia> eddie edwards was a famous "joke" uk athelete
[23:26] <Tm_T> he is not a joke
[23:26] <ikonia> questionable
[23:26] <Tm_T> ikonia: great athlete (:)
[23:27] <ikonia> bold of you to say so
[23:27] <Tm_T> I know I'm bold, but not bald
[23:31] <Pici> Talking to sebsebseb about reccomending #ubuntu-women.
[23:32] <ikonia> good call
[23:32] <Tm_T> aww
[23:40] <Pici> education complete :)
[23:40] <ikonia> took it well ?
[23:40] <Pici> Yeah
[23:41] <ikonia> excellent
[23:56] <elky> is that why we have that collection of stupid in there today?
[23:56] <Tm_T> apparently so
[23:57] <Pici> I just happened to see it too.