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TakyojiAnyone use a media center solution like Boxee or anything?00:04
* Obsidian1723 have phun all...00:06
TakyojiAwkward; apparently my 0-key on my numpad is acting like the Insert key00:11
TakyojiSo Opera doesn't have a built-in Theora implementation yet?00:15
mr_steve_diablo, hey01:30
_diablomr_steve, yo01:31
_diablowhat's up?01:39
_diablomr_steve, ?02:11
mr_steve_diablo, hey. Sorry, I got pulled away for a bit there02:14
mr_steve_diablo, I had a question for ya. What screen resolution do you use when you're running ratpoison?02:19
_diablomr_steve, uhhh, I haven't ever changed it. lemme check my .ratpoisonrc02:20
_diablohmmm, how would I know?02:22
mr_steveuh... good question, actually. xdpyinfo, maybe02:25
mr_steveIn Gnome/KDE it would just be display control panel02:25
mr_steveI'm just curious because I'm at 1280x800 on this laptop, and I think I need a higher res for ratpoison to feel really comfy to use02:26
_diabloyeah, I think so too02:30
_diablomy screen in GNOME is only 12800x800 too. But yeah, I agree. I think 1600 would be perfect. Although RP is still fine for me02:31
_diabloyou know you can have multiple workspaces right mr_steve?02:31
mr_steveyup02:35
mr_steveI think I gotta get my dualhead setup going again tho to really work effectively02:35
_diabloI want a desk :(02:38
mr_steveme too02:38
h00kI want another monitor :(02:47
h00kor two02:47
h00kor three?02:47
mr_steveI think a 3x2 grid with a 50" plasma screen above it would suit me just fine ;)02:47
_diabloI think that would require about 12 graphics cards lol02:50
mr_steveSo I still gotta find a new location for the next Ubuntu hour03:07
_diablomr_steve, yeeeah, the lack of wireless is terrible03:08
mr_steveYup. So I'll probably scout one of the other places within a block or two of there03:08
_diablocool. that'd be good03:09
tonyyarussomr_steve: parking would be a good consideration too03:39
mr_stevetonyyarusso, indeed. That's a major problem downtown03:43
tonyyarussoSo our web site now has a feed of the Identi.ca group on it.03:52
_diablotonyyarusso, ah! What is the identi.ca group?03:59
tonyyarusso_diablo: http://identi.ca/group/ubuntuminnesota04:00
_diablothx04:00
_diablotonyyarusso, I noticed you're using gwibber. Are you on their daily or on the stable?04:12
tonyyarussostable currently, although I've also used the daily at times04:14
_diablookay, just wondering, I've noticed issues with it. It tended to crash on me a lot while I used it04:15
_diabloI've just stopped microblogging on anything but twitter. Kinda sad. :(04:17
* mr_steve thinks there has got to be a better way to write manpages04:25
mr_stevecnetworkmanager has so many command line options.. I'm going to be muttering "dot TP, dot B, backslash dash backslash dash.." in my sleep04:27
_diablomr_steve, think about writing the page for ls or grep or something. :)04:28
mr_steveI'd rather not04:28
mr_steveheh or sed, awk, etc04:29
mr_stevewhat drives me nuts about cnetworkmanager is that the developer was really alias happy04:30
mr_stevethere's multiple short and long forms of each option04:30
_diablomr_steve, I love it though. I appreciate it. I wish other things would do the same04:30
mr_steveI think it makes sense to have a short and long option, but for the love of $DEITY, -a, -n, --ap-list, --ap, and --nets all do the same thing04:31
_diabloyeeeah, but it's easy to remember because of that :)04:32
mr_steveTrue enough04:33
_diablohow annoying is writing man pages? they're .gz files, right?04:34
tonyyarussono, they're text files that get compressed with gzip ;)04:35
mr_stevethey're gzip'd text files, written with groff macros04:35
_diabloahhh, gotcha04:36
_diablotonyyarusso, yeeah, I assumed :)04:36
mr_steveonly about 8 more options left to document, and this manpage will be finished. So close to getting this package into universe04:37
mr_steveExcept that the author didn't put copyright headers in his source files, so apparently I have to ask him if he can do that in the next version04:37
_diabloand then you are a Master of the Universe!04:38
mr_steve_diablo, eh, I got a ways to go yet04:38
mr_steveBut I do kinda like packaging, so if he keep at it, it'll probably happen04:38
_diabloyeah, fair enough04:45
_diablopackaging interests me only because I don't know what it means. Seems like cross-compiling or something, right?04:50
mr_steveWell, first you have your source package, which is just the orginal source code wrapped up in a format that various tools know how to deal with04:57
mr_steveand with all of the package's dependencies specified04:57
mr_steveThen from there you can build a binary package, which contains the actual files to be installed on your system04:59
mr_steveSo I believe the way ubuntu does it, or at least the way the launchpad PPAs do it, is to pass the source package to 3 different hosts, i386, amd64, and one other arch.05:00
mr_steveAnd each one build the binary package for that architecture05:00
_diabloahhh, okay.05:00
_diabloI will be asking you more about this at the next ubuntu hour. :)05:04
_diabloand I'll bring an Ubuntu box next time05:05
mr_steveWell I just did something stupid05:40
mr_steveFor those of you who don't know about it, molly-guard really is a wonderful little utility... :)05:41
mr_steveWhich I am now proceeding to install on every single box on my network05:42
Obsidian1723what is it?05:42
mr_steveIt replaces the shutdown, halt, and reboot commands with a script that asks you the name of the system you want to shutdown before actually doing it05:42
tonyyarussohehe05:43
_diabloah... that's useful I suppose05:43
mr_steveI just tried to shutdown my netbook, started wondering why it was taking so long, and then saw my laptop go dark instead. Whoops.05:44
mr_steveOh well, at least it wasn't my server. It needs a reboot anyway, but I think it's next reboot will be it's last05:47
Obsidian1723Sounds like a stupidity preventer05:49
mr_steveexactly05:49
mr_steveoriginally designed for when you're working on a co-located server, where pressing the power button requires a phone call and service fee05:50
tonyyarussoOr just when powering off is A Bad Thing, which is true for any server that's not your random thing at home.06:03
mr_steveYeah, been there, done that. It's amazing how fast the phones start ringing when a busy MS Exchange server falls over.06:06
tonyyarussoI would love to have video of an Exchange server actually falling over :)06:09
mr_steveMe too, actually.06:10
h00kI could set that up, actually.06:16
tonyyarussowithout getting fired?  :P06:16
h00kweeeelllllll, they might not know about it06:21
h00kor, old hardware06:22
h00kthe rackmount stuffs would be off limits06:22
tonyyarussoawright06:24
* tonyyarusso continues to feel badass for having rackmount equipment in his bedroom06:24
mr_steveI'm jealous. My equipment is in a stack... or more properly, a pile.06:27
tonyyarussohehe, there's a little of that going on too06:28
tonyyarussothe new stuff is rack06:28
h00ktonyyarusso: its true, you are.06:29
mr_steveI'm gonna be looking for some kind of rackmount case when my fileserver finally dies. Should be any day now06:29
tonyyarussoMine's awesome, Norco somethingorother, 430 maybe?06:30
h00ktonyyarusso: my equipment consists of a laptop and a netbook.06:30
h00kand a bunch of spare crap.06:30
tonyyarussoI needed a short-depth (<16") one for this location/rack06:30
h00kI have a P3 in my trunk.06:30
tonyyarussoI have, uh, 3 P3ish things in my trunk?  Not mine though...06:31
* tonyyarusso should really finish those and return them06:31
h00kI still have to think of a use for mine06:31
tonyyarussoThey really don't have much if you need them to be in any area where heat/noise is a concern :(06:32
tonyyarussootherwise file servers and firewalls and maybe a web server here and there06:32
h00kfilesever, maybe.06:33
tonyyarussoIt's probably a better long-term play to just recycle it and get a nettop though, unless you want a RAID/multi-disk fileserver.06:34
h00kmaybe a devserver06:35
tonyyarussoI thought that too, but that's what VMs are for now.06:35
h00kyeah...06:36
h00kbah.06:36
h00kwhich I just run on my laptops06:36
h00k(vm's)06:37
h00ki'm really debating upgrading to alpha-2 on my laptop06:37
tonyyarussoI upgraded my kernel, but that's it06:38
h00khrm.06:38
exigraffhow much difficulty would one run into, running karmic and lucid from separate partitions, using a single partition for /home?06:41
tonyyarussoprobably not much - I've done that with previous releases.06:41
tonyyarussoYou'll want backups obviously, but there's a decent chance it won't totally explode.06:41
h00kI had asked about this in #ubuntu+1, they said probably not to because if the .dotfiles get changed, it might be angry about different versions06:41
_diabloexigraff, I've done this with different distros and had no issues.06:42
_diabloymmv06:43
mr_stevebah I gotta go to bed. I really gotta think about adding a clock to my basic ratpoison layout..06:44
mr_steveg'night all06:45
_diablonn06:45
exigraffnight06:45
mr_steveso, i got my multihead setup working, more or less. Now I have to use ratpoison, because Gnome barfs.16:12
mr_stevehm. My wireles is cripplingly slow on this laptop, apparently16:59
mr_steveAnyone else use a tiling window manager?18:30
h00kno, but I've considered it18:30
mr_steveI'm kind of liking ratpoison, but I think I'm going to try some of the others, like awesome and wmii18:32
h00kI saw a guy use xmonad and it looked pretty neat18:34
TakyojiWhat's the command line application for detecting the ASCII value of a specific keystroke?21:36
_diabloTakyoji, sorry, I don't remember off the top of my head21:41
kermitTakyoji: hexdump, or od, or xxd22:03
Takyojiahh22:03
kermitTakyoji: or man ascii22:03
TakyojiI have an IR remote with this laptop that acts as part of the keyboard22:07
TakyojiThus was thinking if I could map certain keys to do certain things22:07
kermitTakyoji: oh for extended keyboard input, use showkey  .. though any app you'd be using it with probably has a button to capture a 'keystroke' for assignment anyway22:27
kermitTakyoji: showkey  only works in a console22:27
mr_stevehey _diablo, I got my dualhead working :)23:11

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