[00:04] Anyone use a media center solution like Boxee or anything? [00:06] * Obsidian1723 have phun all... [00:11] Awkward; apparently my 0-key on my numpad is acting like the Insert key [00:15] So Opera doesn't have a built-in Theora implementation yet? [01:30] _diablo, hey [01:31] <_diablo> mr_steve, yo [01:39] <_diablo> what's up? [02:11] <_diablo> mr_steve, ? [02:14] _diablo, hey. Sorry, I got pulled away for a bit there [02:19] _diablo, I had a question for ya. What screen resolution do you use when you're running ratpoison? [02:20] <_diablo> mr_steve, uhhh, I haven't ever changed it. lemme check my .ratpoisonrc [02:22] <_diablo> hmmm, how would I know? [02:25] uh... good question, actually. xdpyinfo, maybe [02:25] In Gnome/KDE it would just be display control panel [02:26] I'm just curious because I'm at 1280x800 on this laptop, and I think I need a higher res for ratpoison to feel really comfy to use [02:30] <_diablo> yeah, I think so too [02:31] <_diablo> my screen in GNOME is only 12800x800 too. But yeah, I agree. I think 1600 would be perfect. Although RP is still fine for me [02:31] <_diablo> you know you can have multiple workspaces right mr_steve? [02:35] yup [02:35] I think I gotta get my dualhead setup going again tho to really work effectively [02:38] <_diablo> I want a desk :( [02:38] me too [02:47] I want another monitor :( [02:47] or two [02:47] or three? [02:47] I think a 3x2 grid with a 50" plasma screen above it would suit me just fine ;) [02:50] <_diablo> I think that would require about 12 graphics cards lol [03:07] So I still gotta find a new location for the next Ubuntu hour [03:08] <_diablo> mr_steve, yeeeah, the lack of wireless is terrible [03:08] Yup. So I'll probably scout one of the other places within a block or two of there [03:09] <_diablo> cool. that'd be good [03:39] mr_steve: parking would be a good consideration too [03:43] tonyyarusso, indeed. That's a major problem downtown [03:52] So our web site now has a feed of the Identi.ca group on it. [03:59] <_diablo> tonyyarusso, ah! What is the identi.ca group? [04:00] _diablo: http://identi.ca/group/ubuntuminnesota [04:00] <_diablo> thx [04:12] <_diablo> tonyyarusso, I noticed you're using gwibber. Are you on their daily or on the stable? [04:14] stable currently, although I've also used the daily at times [04:15] <_diablo> okay, just wondering, I've noticed issues with it. It tended to crash on me a lot while I used it [04:17] <_diablo> I've just stopped microblogging on anything but twitter. Kinda sad. :( [04:25] * mr_steve thinks there has got to be a better way to write manpages [04:27] cnetworkmanager has so many command line options.. I'm going to be muttering "dot TP, dot B, backslash dash backslash dash.." in my sleep [04:28] <_diablo> mr_steve, think about writing the page for ls or grep or something. :) [04:28] I'd rather not [04:29] heh or sed, awk, etc [04:30] what drives me nuts about cnetworkmanager is that the developer was really alias happy [04:30] there's multiple short and long forms of each option [04:30] <_diablo> mr_steve, I love it though. I appreciate it. I wish other things would do the same [04:31] I think it makes sense to have a short and long option, but for the love of $DEITY, -a, -n, --ap-list, --ap, and --nets all do the same thing [04:32] <_diablo> yeeeah, but it's easy to remember because of that :) [04:33] True enough [04:34] <_diablo> how annoying is writing man pages? they're .gz files, right? [04:35] no, they're text files that get compressed with gzip ;) [04:35] they're gzip'd text files, written with groff macros [04:36] <_diablo> ahhh, gotcha [04:36] <_diablo> tonyyarusso, yeeah, I assumed :) [04:37] only about 8 more options left to document, and this manpage will be finished. So close to getting this package into universe [04:37] Except that the author didn't put copyright headers in his source files, so apparently I have to ask him if he can do that in the next version [04:38] <_diablo> and then you are a Master of the Universe! [04:38] _diablo, eh, I got a ways to go yet [04:38] But I do kinda like packaging, so if he keep at it, it'll probably happen [04:45] <_diablo> yeah, fair enough [04:50] <_diablo> packaging interests me only because I don't know what it means. Seems like cross-compiling or something, right? [04:57] Well, first you have your source package, which is just the orginal source code wrapped up in a format that various tools know how to deal with [04:57] and with all of the package's dependencies specified [04:59] Then from there you can build a binary package, which contains the actual files to be installed on your system [05:00] So I believe the way ubuntu does it, or at least the way the launchpad PPAs do it, is to pass the source package to 3 different hosts, i386, amd64, and one other arch. [05:00] And each one build the binary package for that architecture [05:00] <_diablo> ahhh, okay. [05:04] <_diablo> I will be asking you more about this at the next ubuntu hour. :) [05:05] <_diablo> and I'll bring an Ubuntu box next time [05:40] Well I just did something stupid [05:41] For those of you who don't know about it, molly-guard really is a wonderful little utility... :) [05:42] Which I am now proceeding to install on every single box on my network [05:42] what is it? [05:42] It replaces the shutdown, halt, and reboot commands with a script that asks you the name of the system you want to shutdown before actually doing it [05:43] hehe [05:43] <_diablo> ah... that's useful I suppose [05:44] I just tried to shutdown my netbook, started wondering why it was taking so long, and then saw my laptop go dark instead. Whoops. [05:47] Oh well, at least it wasn't my server. It needs a reboot anyway, but I think it's next reboot will be it's last [05:49] Sounds like a stupidity preventer [05:49] exactly [05:50] originally designed for when you're working on a co-located server, where pressing the power button requires a phone call and service fee [06:03] Or just when powering off is A Bad Thing, which is true for any server that's not your random thing at home. [06:06] Yeah, been there, done that. It's amazing how fast the phones start ringing when a busy MS Exchange server falls over. [06:09] I would love to have video of an Exchange server actually falling over :) [06:10] Me too, actually. [06:16] I could set that up, actually. [06:16] without getting fired? :P [06:21] weeeelllllll, they might not know about it [06:22] or, old hardware [06:22] the rackmount stuffs would be off limits [06:24] awright [06:24] * tonyyarusso continues to feel badass for having rackmount equipment in his bedroom [06:27] I'm jealous. My equipment is in a stack... or more properly, a pile. [06:28] hehe, there's a little of that going on too [06:28] the new stuff is rack [06:29] tonyyarusso: its true, you are. [06:29] I'm gonna be looking for some kind of rackmount case when my fileserver finally dies. Should be any day now [06:30] Mine's awesome, Norco somethingorother, 430 maybe? [06:30] tonyyarusso: my equipment consists of a laptop and a netbook. [06:30] and a bunch of spare crap. [06:30] I needed a short-depth (<16") one for this location/rack [06:30] I have a P3 in my trunk. [06:31] I have, uh, 3 P3ish things in my trunk? Not mine though... [06:31] * tonyyarusso should really finish those and return them [06:31] I still have to think of a use for mine [06:32] They really don't have much if you need them to be in any area where heat/noise is a concern :( [06:32] otherwise file servers and firewalls and maybe a web server here and there [06:33] filesever, maybe. [06:34] It's probably a better long-term play to just recycle it and get a nettop though, unless you want a RAID/multi-disk fileserver. [06:35] maybe a devserver [06:35] I thought that too, but that's what VMs are for now. [06:36] yeah... [06:36] bah. [06:36] which I just run on my laptops [06:37] (vm's) [06:37] i'm really debating upgrading to alpha-2 on my laptop [06:38] I upgraded my kernel, but that's it [06:38] hrm. [06:41] how much difficulty would one run into, running karmic and lucid from separate partitions, using a single partition for /home? [06:41] probably not much - I've done that with previous releases. [06:41] You'll want backups obviously, but there's a decent chance it won't totally explode. [06:41] I had asked about this in #ubuntu+1, they said probably not to because if the .dotfiles get changed, it might be angry about different versions [06:42] <_diablo> exigraff, I've done this with different distros and had no issues. [06:43] <_diablo> ymmv [06:44] bah I gotta go to bed. I really gotta think about adding a clock to my basic ratpoison layout.. [06:45] g'night all [06:45] <_diablo> nn [06:45] night [16:12] so, i got my multihead setup working, more or less. Now I have to use ratpoison, because Gnome barfs. [16:59] hm. My wireles is cripplingly slow on this laptop, apparently [18:30] Anyone else use a tiling window manager? [18:30] no, but I've considered it [18:32] I'm kind of liking ratpoison, but I think I'm going to try some of the others, like awesome and wmii [18:34] I saw a guy use xmonad and it looked pretty neat [21:36] What's the command line application for detecting the ASCII value of a specific keystroke? [21:41] <_diablo> Takyoji, sorry, I don't remember off the top of my head [22:03] Takyoji: hexdump, or od, or xxd [22:03] ahh [22:03] Takyoji: or man ascii [22:07] I have an IR remote with this laptop that acts as part of the keyboard [22:07] Thus was thinking if I could map certain keys to do certain things [22:27] Takyoji: oh for extended keyboard input, use showkey .. though any app you'd be using it with probably has a button to capture a 'keystroke' for assignment anyway [22:27] Takyoji: showkey only works in a console [23:11] hey _diablo, I got my dualhead working :)