* maco has s snow day tomorrow00:00
crimsunlucky you00:00
* Tm_T has no other kind of days, it's winter afterall00:02
seelecrimsun: youre not off work?00:02
crimsunseele: I'm emergency-essential00:02
seelecrimsun: doh00:02
crimsunwho comes up with these crazy things, anyhow?00:02
crimsun"sorry, you need to come in even if you have to hike 25 miles"00:02
persiaBeats "sorry, you need to come in even though the streets are 20cm deep in asbestos".00:03
crimsunpersia: even that wouldn't do it00:03
Tm_Tor "don't come, ever"00:03
crimsun"go here, get a suit, pack it in. See you in an hour."00:04
persiaI know.  I've received that statement.  I'm just saying that walking for a few hours isn't that bad, so far as "emergency-essential" options go :)00:04
crimsunI'm just waiting for emergency-essential to the moon.00:04
crimsunas long as I have some hair metal, I'm good to go00:04
seelecrimsun: where do you work?00:06
macoseele: near you00:06
crimsunVashda Narada, Inc.00:07
* maco giggles00:07
seelemaco: where i live or where i work?00:10
maconear where you live, i think00:10
macosuffice that its quite far from downtown dc where he lives ;)00:11
ejatneversfelde: got any idea y choqok crash on startup ?00:50
neversfeldeejat: which version?00:50
ejatneversfelde: 0.9.4-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa00:51
ejatpreviously its working fine ..00:51
ejatjust happen recently ..00:51
neversfeldeejat: mhh, I do not know anything about this version, isnt't it 0.9.4+git ?00:51
neversfeldeok, sorry, no idea, probably I should update it. Did  you update your Qt or something similar?00:52
ejatmy qt still 4.6.000:55
ejatmaybe u can update it to 0.9.4+git20100202 then see how ..00:56
neversfeldeejat: I will have a look at it, please ping me, if I forget :)00:59
ejatyeah i will .. since i need it to update my microblog :)00:59
ejatu might get annoy ill remind u all day .. huhu .. (just kidding)01:00
neversfeldeejat: updated01:49
ejatneversfelde: thanks .. weird .. seem like nothing to update :(01:54
neversfeldeejat: should be there in a few minutes01:54
ejatyeah .. i saw it already published01:54
ejatok .. upgrading ..01:56
ejatneversfelde: i got this while running choqok : KEmoticonsTheme::tokenize: Broken HTML entity, trying to recover.02:05
neversfeldeejat: sorry, no idea, is this a critical error?02:06
neversfeldeif so, please report on bko02:06
ejatok ..02:06
ejatneversfelde: i remove+purge everything then reinstall .. seem OK now ..02:20
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Tonio_hi there15:12
Tonio_is knotes crashing for most of you ?15:13
Tonio_at shutdown/close ?15:13
Tonio_Riddell: tested sflphone, works very nicelly, except the kde client seems unfinished (most of the code is there)15:13
Tonio_Riddell: with gnome it is just genius15:13
Tonio_Riddell: so I'll try to contect upstream to get their plans to get the kde client finished15:13
Tonio_Riddell: it really could be our sip/iax client15:14
jussi01Im having issues in lucid with any of the installers for proprietry stuff, the pop ups for amarok and konqui, (pops up with the kdesudo thing thennothing happens). anyone else experiencing this? AMD64.15:19
jussi01Anyone know which packages provide that functionality?15:21
jussi01Also, for anyone interested, jockey does not work either: jussi@Galaxy:~$ kdesudo jockey-kde15:22
jussi01QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No such file or directory15:22
jussi01QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /root/.config/ibus/bus15:22
jussi01Bus::open: Can not get ibus-daemon's address.15:22
jussi01IBusInputContext::createInputContext: no connection to ibus-daemon15:22
Tm_Tjussi01: you have ibus installed?15:23
jussi01Tm_T: Ive no idea - this is a fresh install from the DVD (saturday)15:23
Tm_Tjussi01: worth checking15:23
jussi01Tm_T: package name?15:24
Tm_TI have no idea15:24
jussi01hrm, if its the package ibus, then it didnt get installed...15:25
* jussi01 tries now15:25
jussi01well lookee there... amarok is now installing video codecs15:29
jussi01well thats a little bug..15:29
* jussi01 wonders if its missing for a reason or someone just forgot15:30
Tm_Tjussi01: sounds to me that its hard dependency but is marked as recommends15:30
jussi01Tm_T: right, thats fun.15:32
jussi01oh yay, jockey works also :D15:33
Tonio_one stupid question with rekonq, but where is the search toolbar ? I can't find a way to activate it...15:40
shtylman_so for some reason my akonadi server won't start15:44
shtylman_is this a known issue?15:44
shtylman_compains about no akonadi resources15:45
shtylman_should I reinstall any particular packages?15:46
jussi01shtylman_: karmic or lucid?15:46
jussi01maybe virtuoso is missing?15:47
shtylman_jussi01: lemme check15:47
shtylman_jussi01: nope...have both drivers and servers installed15:48
jussi01shtylman_: no idea then, sorry :(15:48
shtylman_jussi01: thanks for trying :)15:48
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shtylman_"stderr: "Could not open required defaults file: /home/shtylman/.local/share/akonadi//mysql.conf    " ... even though I have that file16:05
shtylman_"100208 11:04:30 [ERROR] Can't open the mysql.plugin table. Please run mysql_upgrade to create it.     "16:05
shtylman_and that also seems wrong16:05
shtylman_but I don't have the mysql_upgrade command16:06
Tonio_hum a little question about lucid (another one !!) do you see kde policies through systemsettings/policykit ?16:08
Tonio_I won't see anothing appart from k3b16:08
Tonio_and I can't seem to "Adjust date and time" from within the clock16:08
jussi01Tonio_: I dont see anything except k3b also16:09
Tonio_jussi01: that doens't sound normal :)16:09
Tonio_probably a packaging issue I guess16:09
jussi01Tonio_: Ill let you file the bug as Ive no idea what is supposed to be there16:09
jussi01and tremulous in lucid is still borked :(16:10
Tonio_jussi01: I'll discuss this with Riddell first...16:10
Tonio_jussi01: I'm not sure about the component used for that16:11
Tonio_jussi01: I suspect there should be some entries in /usr/share/PolicyKit/policy/16:13
Tonio_otherwise the system won't be able to read/write your permissions and even authenticate you16:13
Tonio_which may explain I have this trouble changing the time settings16:13
shtylman_anyone know how I can run mysql_update?16:27
shtylman_is it supposed to be installed by default?16:28
shtylman_my battle with akonadi will be long an painful16:53
Tm_Tshtylman_: how so?17:09
shtylman_Tm_T: I think I am battleing the akonadi apparmor issue17:09
shtylman_Tm_T: http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Apparmor17:10
Tm_Tshtylman_: ah, roger17:10
shtylman_hopefully that problem will be resolved before lucid release :)17:13
Tm_Tshtylman_: do you use mysqld-akonadi ?17:13
shtylman_it was still happening17:14
* jussi01 sighs and wishes for kaffeine in the standard install... its _so_ much better than dragon...18:31
crimsunhow so?18:31
crimsunI do use Kaffeine when Totem and mplayer asplode.18:31
crimsunMostly, the dvd navigation doesn't suck with it (xine-lib, whee).18:32
jussi01kaffeine does so much more stuff, it provides tv, DVD, files, scrolling in movies actually works dragon only sort of18:34
jussi01its a lot nicer to use.18:34
neversfeldebut alpha3 :)18:37
Tonio_Riddell: ping ?18:44
crimsunI suspect he and maco are being social presently.18:45
Tonio_ScottK: ping ?18:52
ScottKTonio_: Pong18:54
ScottKjussi01: Get Kaffeine to do a final release.  Then we can talk.18:56
Tonio_ScottK: I noticed you worked out some issues with policykit and kde in kdelibs package18:57
Tonio_ScottK: I wanted to get your opinion on a problem I noticed on lucid18:57
ScottKTonio_: Wasn't me.18:57
ScottKTonio_: I'm pretty sure that was all jonathan thomas18:57
Tonio_ScottK: in systemsettings, policykit, I noticed that18:57
Tonio_Remove usr/share/PolicyKit/policy/org.kde.kcontrol.kcmremotewidgets.policy18:57
Tonio_    from kdelibs5-data.install in the faint hope that we might actually manage18:57
Tonio_    to build KDE SC 4.4 RC1 in time for Lucid Alpha 218:57
Tonio_ScottK: that was you ;)18:57
ScottKRight.  That.18:58
Tonio_ScottK: I notice that in systemsettings, policykit, there is no action available18:58
ScottKThe package wasn't building that file at the time, so it had to go.18:58
Tonio_ScottK: and when I try to change the "date and time" it won't work18:58
jussi01ScottK: ahh18:58
Tonio_ScottK: my feeling is that all kde/policykit stuff is just broken in lucid18:58
Tonio_ScottK: okay18:58
jussi01ScottK: I might have to go sit on someone... :D18:59
ScottKTonio_: We need to be a bit careful of it.18:59
Tonio_ScottK: yeah... it seems that it's just all broken right now18:59
Tonio_ScottK: and that's probably not a kde upstream problem in RC3 status, right ? :)18:59
ScottKpolicykit-qt0 is the default for upstream KDE.  We want policykit-kde1 (or something like that).18:59
ScottKIt's supported, but not default.18:59
ScottKNot sure.18:59
Tonio_hum... why don't we use the default kde one ?19:00
ScottKBecause it's ancient and needs to go.19:00
Tonio_ScottK: anyway I have both installed19:00
ScottKDebian isn't going to use it either.19:00
Tonio_ScottK: I think k3b uses the kde one19:00
ScottKJonathan Thomas is, I'm pretty sure, the one that was lookinjg into the details.19:01
Tonio_I have to investigate, but it would be nice to get that fixed...19:01
Tonio_ScottK: okay I'll check with him19:01
* Sput working on dbus systray support in time for feature freeze19:08
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ScottKGo Sput go.19:49
Sput...in a way that it should also work in the qt-only version in Gnome19:49
Sput(assuming that ubuntu patches gnome to support StatusNotifier)19:50
ScottKExcellent (since we're building both)19:50
ScottKThey are19:50
Sputthat's why I'm not taking the shortcut of simply using kdelibs for that :)19:50
EagleScreenI think the plan to renew samba shares is a great idea20:00
EagleScreenyou should talk KDE upstream about include your changes in KDE upstream for future major releases20:01
tomplastScottK: Goodevening Scott. Do you have time today or should I try with Riddel?20:17
sghRiddell: my knetworkmanager just went "offline" like yesterday. Again killing knetworkmanager and nm-applet->"Enable networking" fixed it.20:48
tomplastRiddel: Hi! As ScottK seems unavailable, do you think you can spare some time to discuss with me the matter of whether to include usb-modeswitch in the default installation or not?20:50
yuriy_worksgh: sounds like a network-manager bug, combined with knetworkmanager lacking the option to reenable it20:52
voriantomplast: why not use the mailing list?20:53
tomplastYeah, I suppose I could..20:54
tomplastOr I could wait a little, I guess I could collect some more info.20:55
* tomplast thinks20:55
sghyuriy_work: yes, knetworkmanager actually does say "Network management disabled", but without any way to enable it.20:55
* vorian thinks its good to get input from all people who may not want to read scrollback in IRC20:55
* Quintasan is back from snowboarding trip21:17
neversfeldebug 518996 needs a sponsor21:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 518996 in k9copy "New upstream release 2.3.5" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51899621:52
JontheEchidnaneversfelde: I can take a look at it21:53
neversfeldeThank you21:53
* shtylman_ wants to add more tiling features to kwin21:54
shtylman_like tile into quadrants :)21:54
shtylman_Riddell: was the kdm theme issue resolved?22:20
JontheEchidnaneversfelde: one thought, the kde dh sequence is part of pkg-kde-tools, so dropping the build-dependency is not such a good idea even if pkg-kde-tools gets pulled in indirectly22:20
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: I read somewhere, that it is not necessary, but I can add it again22:21
JontheEchidnaI would feel better about sponsoring it until I could read whatever you read, thanks.22:22
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: I cannot find it and I probably mixed it up with quilt and source format 3.0. I add it again. Can cdbs be removed?22:27
Lex79I think if you use -with kde, pkg-kde-tools is necessary22:28
Lex79cdbs is not needed if you use dh, imo22:29
JontheEchidnaneversfelde: yes, cdbs can be remove22:35
yuriy_workJontheEchidna: :o you have competition http://gnomejournal.org/article/90/interview-with-jonathan-thomas-creator-of-the-openshot-video-editor22:47
neversfeldeJontheEchidna: I attached a corrected version to the bug report23:04
shtylman_fancy new kde webpage23:27
shtylman_ryanakca: ^ ... ;( no kubuntu page yet..23:27
nixternalwow, kde.org only has Kubuntu for KDE 3 packages..nice23:56
nixternalsubliminal message?23:56

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