[00:00] <Rayston> just about to install Jaunty because alot of people with similiar problems mention that jaunty did not have these issues
[00:00] <capron> mhaedo, hope you find it , I think compile is the right way too go.  But have only done it for comipz plugins ,  Right now I will try compile the kernel
[00:00] <MeerCat> Blindsite1: did you add a repo for wine and didn't add the key to that repo?
[00:00] <Asmob> can somone give me advice why i need use seperate partition for /home?
[00:00] <sebsebseb> Asmob: can be rather usefl if you want to re install Ubuntu or distro hop
[00:00] <braden_> mobi-sheep ok also virtualbox 3.0 won't install i keep getting kernall module compile failed
[00:00] <Arsin> MeerCat: Worked, thanks. ke1ha_: Working thanks, but I tried entering a passkey that I just created and I got invalid pass
[00:00] <MeerCat> Asmob: it gives flexibilty to have partitions on seperate disks
[00:01] <MeerCat> as sebsebseb mentioned is a reaason
[00:01] <Blindsite1> repo?
[00:01] <ke1ha_> You have to go to Standford, and apply for a passkey, it will be emailed to you.
[00:01] <Asmob> sebsebseb, distro hop?
[00:01] <MeerCat> repository
[00:01] <sebsebseb> MeerCat: seperate disks?  you just mean partitions on same hard disk?
[00:01] <Blindsite1> ah yeah
[00:01] <Blindsite1> added that in the other sorces area
[00:01] <Blindsite1> ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa
[00:02] <Blindsite1> im getting 2 wines show up on the list, the beta and the stable version
[00:02] <Asmob> MeerCat, sebsebseb, so do i need make /home on seperate partition?
[00:02] <cyberjunk502> guys  anyone know is there some sort of tracker in nokia phones that are removed when the phone arrives in shops
[00:02] <Blindsite1> i want the install the stable ver bu it wont le me
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Asmob: distro hop as in,  get rid of Ubuntu and try some thing else,  and  then real proper distro hoppers will go through loads of distros like that,  not spending that long on each.  I think it's better to  run a distro that is good enough Ubuntu for example as the host operating system, and then virtual machine other distros, if people want to use others as well.  Or have another distro on another computer even.
[00:03] <MeerCat> home can be mounted on a seperate disk or everthing can be partitoned on one disk,, if possible its cool to have partitions on seperate disks,, one reason is in cause of a disk failure.. say your root disk failed however home didn't exist there,, then you can simply reinstall the OS on  the root disk and mount /home back
[00:03] <Arsin> ke1ha_: Where would I go about doing that? I've been searching for a place to register or something. The only one I can see is for a team
[00:03] <MeerCat> Asmob: its not a requirement
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Asmob: by default Ubuntu puts /home  in  /
[00:03] <ke1ha_> Arsin: Also, it may have installed and downloaded the apps, but you still need to start it with ./foldingathome/folding start
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Asmob: and gives you swap space as well
[00:04] <benico> hi
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Asmob: creating a seperate home partition  is easier to do before Ubuntu get's installed, but it can be done after woulds
[00:04] <Asmob> sebsebseb, now i instaled / 20gb /home about 290 and /swap 2gb is that good?
[00:04] <ke1ha_> F@H Passkey Info: http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/FAQ-passkey.html
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Asmob: ok you already instaled Ububuntu and set up like that?
[00:05] <Asmob> sebsebseb, yes but i dont now is it good
[00:05] <cyberjunk502> anyone know a irc server or a channel where i can ask questions about nokia mobile phones
[00:05] <peepsalot> i have a motherboard with some sort of integrated graphics, i can't find details on what the chipset is called.  how do i know what graphics drivers to use?
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Asmob: SWAP depends on how much RAM you have, and 20GB is more than you need for / when you got big seperate /home
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Asmob: with big seperate /home I would make /  10 to 12GB or a little bit bigger then that
[00:05] <MeerCat> yea i would put all that home if anywhere
[00:05] <ke1ha_> Arsin: once you started the client, do the install service with: sudo ./installservice and the server install script with do the checkconfig for you.
[00:06] <mint_> I need some help. I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 on a portable flash drive (8GB) but when I plug in my secondary monitor, and click resolution button, the whole thing freezes on me. And when I am able to get the changes on the resolution area, it does the samething
[00:06] <MeerCat> thats where the files you acquire would end up any way so give it more space..
[00:06] <duffydack> bear in mind, most stuff you install goes in /usr so you for me, I need quite a lot for /  for games and such that install from repo or debs
[00:06] <Asmob> sebsebseb, sory / is 15gb and my ram is 2gb
[00:06] <MeerCat> yea duffydack thats correct as well
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Asmob: SWAP should be double your RAM
[00:07] <duffydack> it would be nice to have the choice
[00:07] <MeerCat> swap should be 1 - 1.5 times ram actually
[00:07] <Asmob> sebsebseb, / is alredy 21% taken..
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Asmob:  also SWAP isn't really needed unless your going to hibernate the computer
[00:07] <rww> ubottu: ot | cyberjunk502
[00:07] <MeerCat> i use LVM i can always add a disk and increase home or usr
[00:07] <peepsalot> i have some kind of integrated intel graphics on my motherboard.  does someone know what graphics drivers i need to install?
[00:08] <cyberjunk502> ubottu: ot| rww
[00:08] <Asmob> sebsebseb, somone sad that on new system i can do that on 2gb swap.. if i have 2gb ram
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Asmob: I think you should still really have 4GB RAM
[00:08] <cyberjunk502> thanks
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Asmob: I mean SWAP
[00:08] <mint_> Anyone in here with dual monitors?
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  i use dual monitors with nvidia cards all the time
[00:09] <Asmob> sebsebseb, but pc dont use it at all.. maybe just in hibernate
[00:09] <ZykoticK9> mint_, what's your question (if you aren't using Nvidia i'm no help)
[00:09] <MeerCat> i use duals at work.. i use nvidia as well
[00:09] <sebsebseb> !swap  | Asmob
[00:09] <kayve> is it a bad idea to install gstreamer when I already have flash installed?
[00:09] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Well I have an intel integrated chipset graphics card, and when I try to change the resolution and disable the mirror settings for whatever reason is set by default, my linux freezes
[00:10] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Is there a manual way to set my computer to use dual monitors, so when I reboot the settings will take effect?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  intel dual monitor works on my netbook.. thats all ive used intel with.  The intel drivers are very much a work in progress in ways. I would say check the intel wiki/forums on the ubuntu sites
[00:11] <Arsin> ke1ha_: installservice is not a command
[00:11] <seanbrystone> Hi whats the terminal command to eject cd/dvd? i cant get it open
[00:11] <ZykoticK9> seanbrystone, "eject"
[00:11] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Well thats the weird thing, I can boot into linux with my secondary monitor already plugged in but it just shows a mirror of my laptop screen, is there a way I can manually go in and set the resolution of both monitors and reboot and that way when I boot up, it works?
[00:11] <ke1ha_> you need to be in the ./foldingathome directory then run sudo ./installservice
[00:12] <seanbrystone> ZykoticK9, thanks :)
[00:12] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Because the GUI simply freezes when I click the apply button
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  I plug mine in.. boot up. use teh resoultion tool. and it works for me. I can set 2 monitors up that way
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  sounds like some intel/xrandr/driver bug to me
[00:12] <MeerCat> me as well
[00:13] <Davedan> how can I use fdserv to use port 80 as non root?
[00:13] <OerHeks> seanbrystone to close, use eject -t :-D
[00:13] <mint_> Dr_Willis: what you mean a bug? Would this happen if I am booted on a flash drive? Does that have anything 2 do with it, cause if so then when I had linux installed before on a dual boot, it often did the same thing I am describing
[00:13] <Ganang> anyone have problem running asf formats on linux?
[00:13] <seanbrystone> ok OerHeks ty
[00:13] <ke1ha_> ArsinL here's the output from HFM.net that http://hpcmon.com/~fahuser/Myfolding/index.html  I wrote a big how too at OcUK forums to use this facility.
[00:13] <Ganang> as video streams?
[00:13] <Raydiation> hi im having problems with port forwarding and my router: it seems that although i forward port 80 to my pc, my router gets accessed; for instance if i type in my ip adress i see the router's login
[00:13] <MeerCat> ports below 1024 need to be started by root,, i believe if the program used setuid its possible Davedan ..
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> mint_:  the extent of my using intel is on muy netbook . and it works there.  The Intel Drivers for some chipsets are not as good as they should be.
[00:13] <Asmob> sebsebseb, hmm.. ok and than if i want fast change distr i can just reinstall and all my /home will stay... but how about programs..?
[00:14] <kayve> yes
[00:14] <capron> Ganang,  yes i had too look in the afs to find the right stream
[00:14] <Blindsite1> ok... i've double checked the source.  I've even added the authentication key even though its supposed to be supurfluous for 9.10
[00:14] <Davedan> MeerCat: setuid?
[00:15] <Blindsite1> and my system STILL won't let me download wine
[00:15] <jiohdi> I just booted to ubuntu from win7... not the nvidia seems messed up, giving me 860x640 or some such and no options for more... help
[00:15] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Would there be a manual way of setting the resolution through a text edit or something and then save changes and then boot and see if that fixes it? the GUI just freezes when I try applying the settings which is very very weird
[00:15] <Ganang> capron: can you give a hint how u solved your problem?
[00:15] <jiohdi> I just booted to ubuntu from win7... no*w the nvidia seems messed up, giving me 860x640 or some such and no options for more... help
[00:15] <AlanF> anyone got a good online feed of the superbowl? I don't get CBS here and I tried googling but keep landing in spam holes. Thanks for any links
[00:15] <MeerCat> Davedan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[00:15] <mint_> Dr_Willis: Now when I don't have the 2nd monitor plugged in and try changing settings, nothing freezes which is weird 2
[00:15] <MeerCat> Blindsite1: what happends now?
[00:16] <Blindsite1> *sigh* its too busy in here to get anything done
[00:16] <MeerCat> =(
[00:16] <Blindsite1> if anyone is willing to help me let me know
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Asmob: well in the other distro you would have to get it to use home properly etc.   If you re install Ubuntu or put another distro on,  you would remove / and make a new one,  and then re install programs.
[00:16] <MeerCat> MeerCat| Blindsite1: what happends now?
[00:16] <darthanubis> Blindsite1: use the forums
[00:17] <sebsebseb> Asmob: Re installing programs isn't  exactly an issue for Ubuntu and most other popular distros,  because of repos where  they can be easilly installed from.
[00:17] <mint_> Dr_Willis: What about manually configuring the Xorg file?
[00:18] <Asmob> sebsebseb, how i can get it to use home? and if i reinstall programs does settings stay?
[00:18] <capron> Ganang, I am not that sure,  I think I only saved the asf as a link then open it in notpad sae that it then  then it pointed to a mpeg that i cud save using wget
[00:18] <Arsin> ke1ha_:I can't seem to get that installservice to run hm... I'm in ./foldingathome right now
[00:18] <kmel> Hi, how can i get a module to load on boot?
[00:18] <Ganang> capron: i'll give a try !thanks!
[00:18] <Rayston> sorry, got disconnected, can anyone here help me with this resolution problem? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+question/100177
[00:19] <Xcell> man
[00:19] <sebsebseb> Asmob: If you re install  Ubuntu by removing/formatting /  and doing a new  / with Ubuntu,  then it should pick up /home no problem,  as long as your also using the same username as before.   It's if you switch distro you would have to get it using /home properly, probably.
[00:20] <atlas__> ist
[00:20] <Xcell> ubuntu code looks like a dc tourist map.. it dont know wht to do 1/2 the time.
[00:20] <MeerCat> ubuntu code?
[00:20] <darthanubis> lol
[00:20] <darthanubis> code
[00:20] <Xcell> u know wht i mean
[00:20] <darthanubis> what "ubuntu code"?
[00:20] <darthanubis> no we don't
[00:21] <MeerCat> bash command line?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Asmob: Once the old /home is being used,  it should pick up  .mozilla and most other program user data no problem
[00:21] <MeerCat> im lost =)
[00:21] <Xcell> get a job then
[00:21] <darthanubis> lol
[00:21] <MeerCat> source code?
[00:21] <kayve> is gstreamer a flash?
[00:21] <Asmob> sebsebseb, is out there... some page what u suggest i can read to find out more about install another distro?
[00:21] <darthanubis> a job?
[00:21] <sebsebseb> Asmob: How long have you used Ubuntu for?
[00:21] <jolaren23> What's wrong with this command?? sudo vol_id -u /dev/sdb1
[00:21] <darthanubis> try again this time complete sentences in English please?
[00:21]  * Xcell rolz a superbowl fatty
[00:21] <darthanubis> ohhhh, your high
[00:21] <Xcell> no
[00:22] <darthanubis> gotcha
[00:22] <Xcell> c
[00:22] <MeerCat> sdb1 is a partition...
[00:22] <Xcell>  u still talk
[00:22] <Asmob> sebsebseb, like about 4days
[00:22] <Davedan> MeerCat: when trying to use setuid it tells me that I need to install it
[00:22] <Xcell> i waz talkin food
[00:22] <ke1ha_> Arsin : make sure you typing it correctly, it's: sudo ./installService   .. note the cap "S"
[00:22] <Asmob> sebsebseb, but i have some expirience also before..
[00:22] <MeerCat> and it it exists it should work
[00:23] <Tm_T> Xcell: please stick in channel topic
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Asmob: ok I thought you are new,  right well in that case, I suggest that you  get used to Ubuntu first,  and then when your a bit more experienced you can virtual machine other distros or pshyically install them, if you would like to
[00:23] <Xcell> lol, i will,
[00:23] <Asmob> virtual bos sebsebseb ?
[00:23] <MeerCat> Davedan: possibly you need to install it?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Asmob: bos???
[00:23] <Asmob> sebsebseb, box..
[00:23] <sebsebseb> Asmob: yes Virtualbox
[00:24] <Xcell> anything concerning the ubuntu sys is on topic right   ?
[00:24] <MeerCat> Davedan: i think the actual program needs to be able to use setuid as well..
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Asmob: and not the one from the repo, but the website/webserver if you want USB support
[00:24] <Xcell> then
[00:24] <Ganang> capron: when i download the link, i receive a wmv file which says i dont have the plugins to play
[00:24] <pw-toxic> hi
[00:24] <Ganang> capron: i have the w32codes installed by the way
[00:24] <pw-toxic> how can i set the language of my system to english?
[00:24] <pw-toxic> its currently all german ;(
[00:24] <Asmob> sebsebseb, i tryed it also.. :) from page.. instaled on it ubuntu windows xp and 7
[00:24] <sebsebseb> Asmob: with what host OS?
[00:24] <Xcell> why do i have to reboot every 30 min or so for my /cdrom to initiate, and when it does, its wrong half the tome.
[00:25] <Xcell> time
[00:25] <darthanubis> pw-toxic: reinstall, this time do it right
[00:25] <Xcell> hmmm?
[00:25] <MeerCat> sounds lke a hardware related issue
[00:25] <Asmob> windows xp and 7 was ubuntu but for ubuntu windows 7
[00:25] <Xcell> its not
[00:25] <MeerCat> what do you mean initiate?
[00:25] <Davedan> MeerCat:  reading again it won't be good for me because I might need to restart the server
[00:25] <pw-toxic> darthanubis, wow this would be crazy because there is a lot of configuration on this server ;)
[00:25] <MeerCat> Davedan: ok
[00:26] <MeerCat> Davedan: why would you want to have that application listen on port 80?
[00:26] <Xcell> it wont mount any disc, and when it does, i have a hard time handeling it
[00:26] <darthanubis> pw-toxic: backup the config. If you run a "server" you should have backups
[00:26] <MeerCat> Xcell: sounds hardware related
[00:26] <Davedan> MeerCat: a web server
[00:26] <Davedan> MeerCat: written in Erlang
[00:26] <MeerCat> Davedan: oh sorry i never heard of it
[00:26] <Ganang> can anyone help with with wmv movies on ubuntu 9.04. I can't get it working
[00:26] <Xcell> its like i have to dedicate a special session to burning and reading cd/dvd's
[00:26] <Davedan> MeerCat: I could use nginx but want to simplify things
[00:26] <sebsebseb> Asmob: Have you used another Linux distro before?  I feel that we are starting to or are on the verge of getting a bit off topic here, so answer that, and it's probably better for us to continue a bit in a pm.
[00:26] <capron> Ganang,  I am sorry I checked it was a asx file that I did like that on.   I googled asf is hard to play
[00:27] <Xcell> MeerCat-  gentoo works, why iz this ?
[00:27] <MeerCat> Xcell: how is the CDROM connected?
[00:27] <Ganang> capron: thanks!!! i lost the video streaming of my best web site....shit!
[00:27] <sebsebseb> Asmob: ok pm it is then
[00:27] <Arsin> Can someone help me with FahMon?
[00:27] <Xcell> i use no usb, its all cable
[00:28] <Asmob> sebsebseb, yes
[00:28] <MeerCat> Xcell: is it a sata or pata?
[00:28] <Xcell> pata
[00:28] <ke1ha_> Arsin: it's best to run FAHmon from Windows, but you can compile it from Sources on UB.
[00:28] <Xcell> and some times /dev/mount  will not work
[00:28] <Xcell> most of the time
[00:28] <MeerCat> /dev/mount?
[00:28] <MeerCat> or mount?
[00:28] <Davedan> MeerCat: what about iptables to redirect traffic from port 80 to 8000? will it scale?
[00:29] <MeerCat> Davedan: thats possible
[00:29] <Xcell> /dev/mountcdrom
[00:29] <MeerCat> i was going to mention it
[00:29] <Arsin> ke1ha_: I want to fold as I use my computer since this is the only computer I have; but if I can only monitor in Win, I'll be stuck in Win7 forever
[00:29] <Davedan> MeerCat: the performance will be as using a reverse proxy?
[00:29] <ke1ha_> Arsin: Here's the Ubuntu FAHmon How-Too. I've used it, it works: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=703180
[00:29] <Xcell> sudo mount /dev/cdrom  does not work
[00:29] <blueghost> 6++0865212046+046;p[k
[00:30] <tomatoes7> i setup my desktop to accept remote desktop logins....and from my laptop i can login and see the screen, and i can control the desktop with both the mouse and keyboard....but i can't see what i'm doing...the image of the remote desktop doesnt update
[00:30] <MeerCat> Davedan: i imagine the performance depends on your system
[00:30] <sarthor> Hi, how can i redirect my LAN clients all browsing requests 192.168.0.1/24 to a web server running on 192.168.0.100 on my lan, Using iptbales
[00:30] <MeerCat> Xcell: i see
[00:30] <Davedan> MeerCat: thanks
[00:30] <MeerCat> Xcell: what doesn't work about it? whats in logs when its done?
[00:30] <Xcell> and when i /  echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches   it sometimes works
[00:30] <MeerCat> interesting
[00:30] <Xcell> ya, tell me
[00:30] <jenia_> hello everyone
[00:31] <tomatoes7> i have the same problem with vncviewer and vinagre
[00:31] <welshboykev> not shure if i can ask about torrenting in here and im just lerning linux after only ever useing windows for 10 years but i was woundering is it posabul to use rtorrent and a back end app for torrentflux-b4rt becaus flux has a number of torrent clians inbedded into it but rtorrent gets much better conection and speeds duz any1 know if this is possable ?
[00:31] <MeerCat> Xcell: and what is that variable set to in gentoo?
[00:31] <Xcell> ubuntu 7.10 worked fine in most depatrments, it will be interesting tom see how things work without (hal)
[00:31] <ke1ha_> Arsin: here's a shorter version: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=457296     Google is Your friend :-)
[00:33] <jenia_> i have a lenovo laptop, i want to set the "middle button" of the "mouse" to the following function: when i press the button, the mouse grabs the content on the screen and then i can pull up or down with the mouse and the screen content will scroll up or down
[00:33] <dyek> Hi! parted command: "resize NUMBER START END" gave me this "Error: File system has an incompatible feature enabled." I suspect that this is caused by Ubuntu's FS utility cannot deal with ext_attr. Is that the case? Is there anything I can do to use Ubuntu (don't have a Fedora system near me at this time) to resize a Fedora-based thumbdrive larger?
[00:33]  * Xcell rollz another superbowl fatty while inticipating how to get his hal, cdrom working properly
[00:34] <Xcell> mexican tortia
[00:34] <jenia_> anyone knows how to do this?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> !ot | Xcell
[00:34] <d1gital> hey all, just moved a hdd from one machine to another, and everything works fine except the nForce ethernet.  ifconfig does not list eth0.  dmesg | grep eth0 returns nothing and modprobe forcecdeth doesn't help. any ideas?
[00:35] <pw-toxic> when i try to install ebox, i get the following message:  "Could not mark all packages for installation or upgrade" -> "ebox: Depends: libapache-authcookie-perl but it is not installable   Depends: libebox (>=1.) but 0.12.2-0ubuntu1 is not to be installed"
[00:35] <pw-toxic> what does this mean and how can i fix this?
[00:35] <ke1ha_> dlgital: is the NIC embedded or a PCI card ?
[00:36] <Xcell> lol, well, it would sem , that with all the collections of hardware data from a vast pool of peoples resources, that they would have simple fixes for this,. you know, after being an electronics engineer 4 over 30+yrs, i see no reason why nothing should work properly..
[00:36] <Xcell> simple logic
[00:38] <adnc> hello, my window buttons are on the left side of the window-title-bar (close, minimize, maximize) does someone know how i can get them again to the right side?
[00:38] <dsnyders> adnc, change your theme?
[00:38] <adnc> i tried
[00:38] <dsnyders> adnc, well, I'm out of ideas
[00:39] <z0d14rk> hello
[00:39] <adnc> dsnyders, thank you, i did that several times, it still stays left
[00:39] <z0d14rk> #ubuntu
[00:39] <z0d14rk> Hey can i get some assistance im having lots of problems
[00:39] <dsnyders> z0d14rk, ask your question
[00:40] <PeterT> !ask > z0d14rk
[00:40] <darthanubis> lots of new ppl today
[00:40] <Xcell> i 1nce recently that there are over 2700 folks alone working on the linux kernel, if this is true, where are the benefits  ?
[00:40] <jsec> adnc, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1113999
[00:40] <darthanubis> adnc: what did you do to get them that way
[00:41] <darthanubis> since that is not default
[00:41] <adnc> quite some time ago i used a theme, that changed it to the left
[00:41] <aaron> hey i have a question how come it says Disk has many bad sectors how can i fixed this?
[00:41] <ke1ha_> Xcell:  that's a good question :-) ... I see lots change, but benefit has yet to seen on my end.
[00:41] <d1gital> ke1ha_:  it's embedded.
[00:41] <adnc> jsec thank you, i'll read it
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Xcell:  people tend to focus on one part/aspcet/driver of the kernel. so one guy may just be doing bug fix/optmizations on one little part
[00:41] <Xcell> out of 2700  ?
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> Xcell:  go do some dev work and learn I guess
[00:42] <ke1ha_> Just checking, but have you checked the BIOS to make sure it's not been disabled somehow.
[00:42] <Arsin> ke1ha_: I've installed I just don't know what to do with the monitoring part of it
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> we are not talking FULL TIME Jobs here.
[00:42] <Xcell> nasa dont have that many, and they sent man 2 the moon, lol
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> bye
[00:42] <ke1ha_> Arsin: you add a client to it, and it tells you the status.
[00:42] <aaron> hey i have a question how come it says Disk has many bad sectors how can i fixed this?
[00:42] <Arsin> ke1ha_: I added one, but what is "Location"
[00:43] <AndyGraybeal> i'm running ubuntu 8.10, is there a way to install tmux package ??
[00:43] <pw-toxic> can anyone tell me why the dependencies dont work in the synaptic package manager?
[00:43] <d1gital> ke1ha_:  no, it's enabled.  at one point i disabled it and plugged in another nic, to no avail.
[00:43] <ke1ha_> Dligital: Additionally, what Motherboard is in the box ? I though nForce used Marvell BICS ?
[00:43] <Allyourbaserbelo> exit
[00:43] <pw-toxic> i cant install any ebox module..
[00:43] <ke1ha_> opps used Marvell NICS
[00:44] <z0d14rk> Thank you, i recently installed 9.10 along side windows 7, i had windows 7 installed first and did a iso mount. Everything was running fine until i recieved the normal updates. However grub became became curupted after the update and i get the recover console. I then followed some directions on how to fix it and created a live usb. I reinstalled grub but now i get no boot menu to windows 7 or Ubuntu and i am completely lost for i can only
[00:44] <z0d14rk> use my bootable.
[00:44] <Xcell> are you really a doctor  ?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> !ot | Xcell
[00:44] <nomnex> where is the mplayer doc on Ubuntu Kamric > message mplayer DOCS/HTML/en/video.html
[00:44] <adnc> jsec, thank you very much, that did the job. there is a gconf key for it
[00:44] <ke1ha_> man mplayer
[00:45] <jsec> adnc, np
[00:45] <adnc> it did last for so long i'm not anymore used to have it on the right ;)
[00:45] <Xcell> Dr_Willis-  lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:45] <z0d14rk> In simple terms ubuntu updated grub got **** and now i have no boot screen
[00:46] <cryptk> ok, so I am at a total loss... I have tried multiple distros... multiple versions... all of them have the same issue where my mouse randomly freezes....
[00:46] <jef91> z0d14rk Reinstall grub?...
[00:46] <jsec> cryptk, new mouse?
[00:46] <jef91> cryptk - try a different mouse?
[00:46] <z0d14rk> After reinstalling i lost my boot screen
[00:46] <Xcell> o, he cNT, SRY
[00:46] <jef91> z0d14rk Reinstall grub?...
[00:47] <z0d14rk> Grub was corrupted i reinstalled grub to try to fix it but in resulted in complete loss of my boot screen
[00:47] <cryptk> jef91 that is the thing... it worked great before... then my HD broke, I got a new one... reinstalled ubuntu and now I have the problem... I had it before but it stopped, I don't know what I did to fix it
[00:47] <b0w> hello how can i get into grub screen instead of goign directly to ubuntu's session login?
[00:47] <TCHebb> cryptk: This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3003669&postcount=32
[00:47] <cryptk> jef91, the mouse works absolutely fine in Windows... it is a Logitech G7
[00:47] <jef91> b0w press escape during boot
[00:48] <cryptk> TCHebb I am reading it now
[00:48] <z0d14rk> How do i reinstall grub then so i can use my windows and ubuntu
[00:49] <cryptk> TCHebb I tried that before and Ubuntu booted to a black screen with a flashing cursor... I will try it again though and report back
[00:49] <cryptk> TCHebb I can make that change in grub2 to test it right?
[00:49] <TCHebb> cryptk: I think so
[00:49] <z0d14rk> tcheb i have the same problem
[00:49] <cryptk> TCHebb ok, I will try it again and see if it actually boots this time
[00:50] <cryptk> bbiab
[00:50] <snayth> Hey I have a friends older lappy that's not very fast - Couldn't get Karmic to run very good - Thinking about trying Slax, or Crunchbang - This person is a noob to linux though - Not sure what to try - Anybody  have a suggestion ? ?
[00:50] <Akkernight> how do I download the 32bit development libraries for ubuntu
[00:50] <seanbrystone> snayth, why not try an  older ubuntu version?
[00:50] <jonzbcc> pidgin plugins -- how are third party plugins installed?
[00:51] <TactiCal_S3kt> Lol
[00:51] <ke1ha_> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[00:51] <Ari_Lazarus> hi guys. I'm trying to run a using Wine and have run into a few interesting things. I installed Fallout Online (uses Fallout 2 graphics) in Windows and in Ubuntu I can run the exe using Wine. However, I get some rather odd video artifacts. Is there a more advance configuration file I can access for Wine other than the default ones I see when I 'Configure Wine'?
[00:51] <Ari_Lazarus> run a game*
[00:51] <axisys> how do I install this ppa:aroth/ppa using apt short from adding the repo manually to the apt sources.lst ?
[00:51] <dsnyders> z0d14rk, do you have some sort of linux boot device (usb, livecd) that you can boot from?
[00:52] <PeterT> /join ##superbowl
[00:52] <Utgard> heya all, wondering if anyone knew of a good place for magicrescue recipes? ie for .mov files.
[00:52] <jonzbcc> anyone understand pidgin plugins?
[00:53] <jef91> ari_lazarus - You can sometimes, but it is better to just install it under Wine instead of running it from widnows
[00:53] <TactiCal_S3kt> set configure
[00:53] <jef91> Windows*
[00:53] <Ari_Lazarus> jef91: I considered that the first time, but way too much work involved - I'd have to install the .Net platform in Wine to even do that
[00:54] <lostinspace_46> While installing pygtk-2.16.0 I get this messege...configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GTK_2_16" was never defined.  Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.  I'm not sure what to do about it  I don't which macro the message refers to.
[00:54] <_CommandeR_> how do you mount mdf file ?
[00:54] <snayth> seanbrystone: Which one might be best or least intensive?
[00:54] <electroman> hello all im noobs on ubunto :D
[00:55] <cryptk> TCHebb: so i tried what was in that link and again it would not boot
[00:55] <cryptk> It showed the white ubuntu logo, then after that it went to a black screen with a blinking _ in the top left corner
[00:56] <cryptk> system wouldn't change tty's, also wouldnt respond to an Alt+SysRq+B
[00:56] <axisys> got it .. its add-apt-repository.. it really should be apt-add-repo or add-repo-add .. start with apt . not add
[00:56] <cryptk> well... Alt+SysRq+R,S,E,I,U,B
[00:56] <jef91> Ari_Lazaurs - just use Wine tricks - its easy
[00:56] <kinja-sheep> axisys: Use alias if it is bothering you that much.
[00:56] <jenia_> hi i need some help and im wondering if anyone here can help me?
[00:57] <Ari_Lazarus> !ask | jenia_
[00:57] <jenia_> i have a lenovo laptop, i want to set the "middle button" of the "mouse" to the following function: when i press the button, the mouse grabs the content on the screen and then i can pull up or down with the mouse and the screen content will scroll up or down
[00:57] <Utgard> anyone recommend a data recovery software to retrieve deleted camera files?
[00:57] <teage> Is it possible to say, have a dewl boot with say Ubuntu and some other Distro, and tunnel the programs to work from one to another .
[00:57] <jenia_> hey lazarus
[00:57] <teage> hope i didnt confuse anyone
[00:57] <ZykoticK9> Utgard, photorec
[00:58] <jrib> teage: yes, but why would you want to?
[00:58] <jenia_> you know how to do this by any change?
[00:58] <blakkheim> teage: only with your misspellings. and no that's not really a feasible thing to do
[00:58] <Ari_Lazarus> newp :3
[00:58] <Utgard> ty, does that do .mov aswell?
[00:58] <teage> blakkeim: maybe for you it isnt
[00:58] <teage> i have my reasons
[00:58] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: It does not do that automatically for you? I just tried middle-click-down and scroll.
[00:58] <jrib> teage: ok...
[00:58] <ZykoticK9> Utgard, you might need to use testdisk < they are both made by the same people
[00:59] <jrib> teage: there's probably a better way which is usually why people ask that question.
[00:59] <teage> jrib: Im sure there is. well
[00:59] <Utgard> ok, tx
[00:59] <_CommandeR_> !mdf
[00:59] <teage> jrib: i know there is its just im lazy.
[00:59] <jrib> teage: ok
[01:00] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: What software are you trying this on?
[01:00] <teage>  and i like to explore a little bit
[01:01] <jenia_> im using ubuntu 9.04 and i tried it with nautilus and firefox and any other application like the irc client im using
[01:01] <cryptk> anyone else have any ideas about my mouse freezing problem... or why my system won't boot with "acpi=force irqpoll" in the kernel line (which is supposed to fix my problem)
[01:02] <Mike_lifeguard> Is it possible to rename system accounts after they're created?
[01:02] <z0d14rk> Does anyone know how to install grub to my ubuntu partition
[01:02] <TCHebb> cryptk: Is you're mouse plugged into a hub or directly into the computer?
[01:03] <Mike_lifeguard> !grub | z0d14rk
[01:03] <cryptk> TCHebb: it happens wether the reciever is plugged into the port on it's base/charger or directly into the computer
[01:03] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: You may have to configure your mouse, I guess.  Most mouses works correctly right out of the box.  Unless you changed something recently.
[01:03] <kinja-sheep> !mouse | jenia_
[01:05] <jenia_> sorry everyone i'm not using a extra mouse, its the buttons on the keyboard that have the function of the mouse; that is what i meant what i said mouse
[01:06] <TCHebb> cryptk: You could try disabling "Legacy USB" in your BOIS. Other than that, I wouldn't know
[01:06] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: Please don't PM me. Thanks.
[01:07] <jenia_> no probs
[01:07] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: I think you want keyboard shortcuts.
[01:07] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: Check System --> Preferences --> Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:08] <jenia_> no i checked
[01:08] <jgcampbell300_> can anyone suggest a free open source version of exchange for ubuntu
[01:08] <jenia_> are the mouse bottons considered like the rest of the button on the keyboard or do they have special name?
[01:09] <ke1ha_> as in MS-Exchange for UB ?
[01:09] <kinja-sheep> jgcampbell300_: Zimbra? Maybe.
[01:09] <jgcampbell300_> yahoo owns Zimbra
[01:09] <cryptk> TCHebb: I will give that a shot...
[01:09] <Uqbar> hello. I'm running 9.10 and geeqie seems to be lacking the "Editors" tab in the prefereces dialog. is this intended?
[01:10] <b0w> hello! how can i check if i got bluetooth device or whats its name to use it, i know i got one because on Windows i use to have it but i think its on the same card as the wifi, anyone can help??
[01:10] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: You could try keytouch.
[01:10] <infid> is there a way to list what the last 5 processes were?
[01:10] <kinja-sheep> !info keytouch | jenia_
[01:11] <kinja-sheep> b0w: Try "lsusb"
[01:11] <Kentrel> When I press Ctrl Alt F1 to get the standard console I just get a blank screen? Wazzup?
[01:11] <jenia_> thanks
[01:11] <jgcampbell300_> !info exchange
[01:12] <b0w> kinja-sheep: yeah already did but nothing appear on that, i know i got it on Windows but on linux its a lil bit harder
[01:12] <ke1ha_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_groupware
[01:12] <jgcampbell300_> thanks Kelha
[01:12] <kinja-sheep> b0w: Not even "lsusb | grep -i blu" or "dmesg | grep -i blu"?  Both appears for me.
[01:12] <kameron> any grub2 gurus around? i want to add my windows partition to the list. in legacy grub i would simply edit menu.list, but i don't know how to do it in grub2.
[01:13] <Kentrel> kameron, there's a command to update grub
[01:13] <bazhang> kameron, tried sudo update-grub ?
[01:13] <Kentrel> I think its either sudo update-grub
[01:13] <Kentrel> ah, yeah
[01:13] <b0w> kinja-sheep: http://pastebin.com/f511551c6
[01:13] <kameron> bazhang, is that it? it auto-detects or what/
[01:14] <ke1ha_> Alternatives to Zimbra: Scalix OpenGroupware Open-Xchange
[01:14] <jenia_> thanks very much kinja-sheep
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> kameron: Yes. There are Operating-System-Prober script.
[01:14] <b0w> kinja-sheep: thats fro dmesg
[01:14] <kinja-sheep> jenia_: keytouch did the trick?
[01:15] <Kentrel> kameron, it should auto detect
[01:15] <kameron> okay ill check it out. reboot.
[01:15] <Kentrel> As long as your windows partition is bootable
[01:15] <Kentrel> no no, you shouldn't have to reboot
[01:15] <jenia_> well actually, i dont see any
[01:15] <kinja-sheep> b0w: You installed Ubuntu using LiveCD?
[01:16] <jenia_> option for setting this button to scroll
[01:16] <b0w> kinja-sheep: yes clean install
[01:16] <jenia_> yes i did, but i saw some plug-ins ill see what those are
[01:17] <kinja-sheep> b0w: I'll tell you what I have installed -- bluetooth, bluez, gnome-bluetooth. (I installed it from ground up so I had to include those packages).
[01:17] <lostinspace_46> While installing pygtk-2.16.0 I get this messege...configure: error: conditional "HAVE_GTK_2_16" was never defined.  Usually this means the macro was only invoked conditionally.  I'm not sure what to do about it  I don't which macro the message refers to.
[01:18] <b0w> kinja-sheep: ok let me install those to see if i get it owrking
[01:18] <kinja-sheep> b0w: If you don't see Bluetooth-Applet on notification area, try "bluetooth-applet &" -- I'm not sure why you don't see it though. :o
[01:18] <jrib> lostinspace_46: pygtk is in the repositories, you shouldn't need to complie it
[01:19] <jenia_> can anyone tell me, why cant i talk in channel firefox?
[01:19] <jrib> jenia_: try #freenode
[01:19] <lostinspace_46> jrib,  I will look again.  Thought it was there, but didn't see it. Thanks.
[01:19] <kinja-sheep> jrib: I think they are on different server.
[01:20] <jrib> kinja-sheep: there's a #firefox on freenode too
[01:20] <jrib> !info python-gtk2 | lostinspace_46
[01:22] <jenia_> okay, i want to report this question: how do i set the middle button on my laptop to scroll
[01:22] <jenia_> what i mean by middle button is the button that serves the purpose of the middle button on a regular mouse
[01:23] <jenia_> and what i mean by scroll is that i will press it, the virtual mouse will grab the screen and i will be able to pull the screen up or down
[01:23] <lostinspace_46> jrib, python-gtk2 is the same as pygtk?
[01:23] <jenia_> i want  to repost* my question
[01:23]  * yru12bnvs slaps yru12bnvs around a bit with a large E71-2
[01:24] <titan_ark> hey, can i not make the menu searchable?
[01:24] <jrib> lostinspace_46: yes
[01:25] <titan_ark> anyone?
[01:25] <fabter> hiii
[01:25] <b2bwild> hello
[01:25] <teage> totam_ark: what do you mean ??
[01:27] <Excalibur43> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[01:27] <kaddi> !ru
[01:28] <Excalibur43> Eto mne?
[01:28] <Excalibur43> Ot menya krakozyabry?
[01:28] <teage> looks like hebrew er somthin
[01:29] <kaddi> his ip is from moscow, that made me think russian
[01:29] <jenia_> excalibur privet
[01:29] <teage> ahhh
[01:29] <jenia_> kak mne pisat na ubuntu-ru
[01:30] <jenia_> mne pishut cannot send in channel
[01:30] <bazhang> !ru | jenia_ Excalibur43
[01:31] <teage> shale break out the handy dandy translator ............*notebook*
[01:31] <Excalibur43> thanx parni
[01:31] <titan_ark> anyone with an idea on installing beagle? the search thing in the menu?
[01:31] <b2bwild> Is there any way to play QuickTime 7 files on Linux?
[01:31] <nanomachine> as
[01:31] <kaddi> teage: let me know if you get anything useful from it. :P googletranslate failed miserably :p
[01:31] <marcuy> any virtuemart users out there?
[01:31] <jamesbrink> hey guys im trying to do a simple if in bash, can somone tell me what i need to do to make this work
[01:31] <jamesbrink> if `groups` |  grep -q "adm"  ; then echo "Welcome Admin"; fi
[01:32] <dht123> Hi, is there ANY way to get TurboTax working under Ubuntu?
[01:32] <dht123> I really need to get this working. :(
[01:32] <BrainDance> hey does anyone know if theres a lubuntu channel? The beta pretty much saved an old laptop of mine (runs perfectly, really impressive) but I'm having one minor issue I know how to fix in ubuntu, but not lubuntu
[01:32] <teage> kaddi: yes it is. I think it only translates words and not sentences
[01:32] <Excalibur43> !ru
[01:32] <administrator_> RR
[01:33] <BrainDance> or better yet, would anyone here be able to help me with my insanely basic lubuntu question?
[01:33] <teage> kaddi: the a complete sentence would sound retarded
[01:33] <administrator_> ?
[01:33] <BrainDance> woah, confusing channel :)
[01:33] <darthanubis> dht123: virtualbox
[01:34] <Trek> !ot | BrainDance
[01:34] <BrainDance> is it even alright to ask for help in this channel?
[01:34] <gyles19> The only way to use turbotax on linux that I know of is to use the online forms they started offering a few years ago. They won't make a linux-native Quicken or Turbotax, I've been nagging them for years with no results.
[01:34] <Trek> !ask | BrainDance
[01:34] <darthanubis> !ask | brand0n
[01:34] <administrator_> My name is Liben
[01:34] <darthanubis> !ask | BrainDance
[01:34] <darthanubis> oops
[01:34] <BrainDance> oh ok, fair enough
[01:34] <kaddi> BrainDance: just ask, if someone knows the answer he'll probably reply even though it's a lubuntu question
[01:34] <Trek> @darthanubis: I already got him.  :)
[01:34] <darthanubis> :)
[01:34] <meowbuntu> Hi with unetbootin does that install a live or full os to a hdd. i know to a usb its a live ome..
[01:34] <dht123> Is there ANY native Linux USA Income Tax Software that is NOT open source, and commercially supported?
[01:35] <bazhang> meowbuntu, full
[01:35] <administrator_> Who are you
[01:35] <Trek> dht123: no.  thats why Linux is Open Source
[01:35] <darthanubis> dht123: lol be serious. If it is NATIVE LINUX it would be OPENSOURCE
[01:35] <meowbuntu> are you sure wow. could it also install an full os to a usb hdd
[01:35] <Trek> dht123: you might be able to run TurboTax (commercially supported) using Wine
[01:35] <meowbuntu> bazhang, are you sure wow. could it also install an full os to a usb hdd
[01:35] <ke1ha_> dht123, have you tried it with "wine" .. I know Quicken works under wine.
[01:35] <darthanubis> as if OPENSOURCE would mean your tax data would be insecure
[01:35] <dht123> I don't trust open source software to do my taxes properly -- I don't want to be audited...
[01:35] <Kismet> hey my automount dose not work
[01:36] <darthanubis> dht123: logoff then
[01:36] <d1gital> is it a good idea to mount /var/run when using a chroot?
[01:36] <darthanubis> and trust your data to closed sources
[01:36] <dht123> TurboTax does NOT work under Wine. Error Message: Access Denied
[01:36] <Kismet> i pluged in a harddrive in my laptop in the cd rom slot and it dose not show
[01:36] <darthanubis> dht123: VIRTUALBOX
[01:36] <BrainDance> The issue is, my laptop has a crappy touchpad for a mouse, and when I'm typing the thing sometimes gets hit and I find out later I've messed up what I was typing. I know how to disable it while typing in ubuntu (edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf i beleive? Among other ways) but that doesnt seem to work in Lubuntu. Any other way to do it? Or even just disable to touchpad altogether since its useless and I just use an external mouse anyway
[01:37] <meowbuntu> dht123, ay opensorce applications are just the same as anyother applications. only differance is that you have the ability to freely modify them from the sorce code if you know how.
[01:37] <ke1ha_> Only other option, VM .. and install WinDoze.
[01:37] <darthanubis> BrainDance: the mouse option in the system menu
[01:37] <dht123> VirtualBox is a pain to set up -- I'm not a very technical user... I'm used to windows.
[01:37] <darthanubis> at least in gnome
[01:37] <darthanubis> dht123: then windows 7 it is then
[01:37] <darthanubis> case closed
[01:37] <administrator_> 由中国人吗？有会汉语的吗？
[01:37] <meowbuntu> ke1ha_, sorry y do you need windozzy
[01:38] <teage> why does gnome give me little freeze glitches?
[01:38] <kaddi> BrainDance: i have syndaemon -i 0.5 -d -t -K running as a background task. works like a charm
[01:38] <ke1ha_> Nope, Dont use WinDoze for much of anything.
[01:38] <gyles19> If you have a windows license to run under VirtualBox for accessing Turbotax,etc, then why do you need linux?
[01:38] <dht123> meowbuntu: not really. When it comes to tax software if I get audited, I can blame TurboTax. If it's open source software, I have no waranty. I'm on my own.
[01:38] <BrainDance> I got to the "keyboard and mouse" utility, but couldn't find anything about turning off the touchpad, it gave me very limited options in lubuntu, just "accelleration" "sensitivity" and "left handed" for mouse
[01:38] <teage> kde runs good but gnome always has tiny glitch freezes
[01:38] <kaddi> BrainDance: 0.5 is the number of seconds to wait before reenabling touchpad after last key pressed
[01:38] <bazhang> !cn | administrator_
[01:38] <dht123> darthanubis: your answers are not helping to solve my problem...
[01:38] <dht123> I just want to find SOME kind of commercially supported tax software. How hard can it be?!?
[01:39] <BrainDance> kaddi, I'm not that well versed in linux, skills limited to a community college class back in the day in redhat, so would that just be a terminal command or how would I go about doing that?
[01:39] <darthanubis> dht123: you don't have a problem except maybe in comprehension. Use Windows7 and you won;t have this tax situation
[01:39] <ke1ha_> Install VMware Player, then Windows x-version and install Turbo, problem solved.
[01:39] <dht123> darthanubis: why are you even in an ubuntu channel?
[01:39] <darthanubis> you can't use any of the solutons I gave you because you confess your not too bright to do so
[01:39] <darthanubis> you complain about linux not being trustworhty software
[01:39] <meowbuntu> dht123, who can audit you. its on your computer. adn if you have firewalls its pritty muchscure.
[01:39] <gyles19> dht123, none of the commercial tax software makers believe the linux crowd is an audience worth the development time.  They only want windows users.  We have to use windows if we want their software, end of their story.
[01:39] <BrainDance> Sorry to take up your time being relatively illiterate. Stayed out of a CS major because of my lack in math skills :P
[01:39] <dht123> meowbuntu: The IRS...
[01:40] <darthanubis> you want to use a cloed source windows only tax app
[01:40] <meowbuntu> ke1ha_, sorry y do you need windozzy
[01:40] <kaddi> BrainDance: yes, that would be a terminal command. syndaemon --help will give you all the options you have. unless you set it up as a service (I believe) you will have to run the command on every boot
[01:40] <Excalibur43> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[01:40] <darthanubis> did I miss anything?
[01:40] <Excalibur43> ó ìåíÿ íå êðàêîçÿáðû?
[01:40] <bazhang> Excalibur43, /join #ubuntu-ru
[01:40] <darthanubis> dht123: why are you here?
[01:40] <teage> HAHAHA, How is win7 gonna solve tax problems??
[01:40] <dht123> darthanubis: I want to use A TAX application on linux...
[01:40] <BrainDance> Where would I go to find out how to set it up as a service? I mean if its an involved process I wouldnt want to take up too much of your time
[01:40] <administrator_> thank you ubottu
[01:40] <darthanubis> You don't trust the software, troll somewhere else then
[01:40] <teage> I am interested now
[01:40] <BrainDance> but thank you a lot, for helping out kaddi
[01:40] <meowbuntu> dht123, . they cant hack into your computer without your permission. remember linux is atm virus free. i dont understand ???
[01:41] <darthanubis> dht123: Then is none as google could have well told you
[01:41] <darthanubis> you can use TT in VBOX
[01:41] <Random832> !ru | Excalibur43
[01:41] <dht123> darthanubis: I trust Linux, I don't trust random opensource tax software made by 17 year old kids who think they can develop
[01:41] <darthanubis> what more do tou want?
[01:41] <Random832> can the people in #ubuntu-ru handle cp1251?
[01:41] <darthanubis> Ten use what you trust
[01:41] <darthanubis> use what you trust
[01:41] <darthanubis> in the environment you wish
[01:41] <gyles19> Dht123, you're wanting a linux-based tax application that comes with an IRS Audit warranty.  There are none.  You and I are both stuckk with Windows.  I borrow my Dad's machine once a year for the purpose.  Or I could do it with their Online Turbotax service if I couldn't borrow.
[01:41] <ke1ha_> Win7 is not going to solve Tax problems, only the user can do that. If the worry is gattign audited, hire an accountant, that's what they do for a living.
[01:41] <darthanubis> I gave you an app where you can do that
[01:41] <dht123> meowbuntu: you have to send tax return forms to the IRS by law in the USA. Do you even know what I am talking about?
[01:41] <kaddi> dht123: noone would buy a closed-tource application for linux and no commerce will give warranties when there's no money to be made. so no such a thing doesn't exist
[01:42] <crunchbang> hey guys.... i'm a little unsure of where to go for crunchbang questions..  i'm terrible at navigating IRC
[01:42] <bazhang> dht123, you have been given some solutions. Please consider them and stop repeating.
[01:42] <kinja-sheep> !crunchbang | crunchbang
[01:42] <darthanubis> crunchbang: #crunchbang
[01:42] <dht123> kaddi: I would buy a closed source app for Linux, why do you assume nobody would?
[01:42] <darthanubis> where else?
[01:42] <igie> whenever i try to connect to open ssh with filezilla, using sftp, i get "error: could not connect to server" anyone know how to solve this?
[01:42] <crunchbang> darthanubis, thank you, that was far easier than i expected
[01:42] <gyles19> Kaddi, I would, and have, purchased closed-source apps to run on LInux.  Games, mostly, that I couldn't get otherwise.
[01:42] <teage> kaddi: yes I would buy depending on what the app is
[01:43] <darthanubis> crunchbang: yw, look before you leap ;)
[01:43] <braden_> how can i connect to  vpn network in jolicloud
[01:43] <BrainDance> So, in this channel, everyones just free to give out help? Thats actually surprising. Most times I've had problems with some kind of software or whatever, and go to an irc channel related to it, I get berrated
[01:43] <BrainDance> I think this is going to be a useful channel :)
[01:43] <dht123> so let me get this straight -- there are NO tax applications AT ALL for Linux?
[01:43] <darthanubis> igie: soon as you tell us everything
[01:43] <crunchbang> join #crunchbang
[01:43] <brand0n> !ask | Trek
[01:43] <woodyjlw> in ubuntu when you remove a program like wine and then install it again latter it remembers all the old settings and installed programs. how do you remove all of the stuff so on fresh install of wine it dose not have any of old settings
[01:43] <crunchbang> i think i did that wrong...
[01:44] <Trek> brand0n: huh?
[01:44] <darthanubis> course you did
[01:44] <gyles19> dht123, I've never seen a TAX application.  There are ACCOUNTING apps with tax packages attached, but those aren't what you're looking for.
[01:44] <darthanubis> crunchbang: put a / before join
[01:44] <crunchbang> forgot my slash.. there we go
[01:44] <brand0n> sorry trek
[01:44] <brand0n> meant to say
[01:44] <dht123> gyles19: is there even one that will work under WINE?
[01:44] <chelz> dht123: there totally are
[01:44] <brand0n> !ask | darthanubis
[01:44] <igie> darthanubis: sorry, once i try to ChrootDirectory a group in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file, then I get that error, if I do not use ChrootDirectory, no problems
[01:44] <ke1ha_> not is you use the right flags it doesnt' leave anything, like -autoremove --purge it's all gone then.
[01:44] <teage> I tried turbo tax under wine till it wanted .net framework
[01:44] <chelz> dht123: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/130716
[01:44] <dht123> I dont care if it's under wine as long as it works and I don't have to buy a copy of Win7...
[01:45] <kaddi> woodyjlw: specficially for wine you can just go to ~\ and delete the folder .wine. In general you can do a apt-get purge <packagename> to remove the package and the settings
[01:45] <chelz> dht123: http://www.google.com/search?q=doing+taxes+ubuntu+OR+linux
[01:45] <gyles19> dht123: None of last years packages would, I haven't looked at this years'.
[01:45] <braden_> how can i connect to  vpn network in jolicloud
[01:45] <chelz> kaddi: moving is usually better than removing if it doesn't take up a lot of space, just in case it's needed later
[01:45] <woodyjlw> kaddi,  thanks
[01:45] <BrainDance> Is there an expected timeframe for a release of a non-beta Lubuntu? Because seriously I'm impressed
[01:46] <kaddi> teage if it's a .net application wouldn't it run under mono? Or is only part of it using .net?
[01:46] <BrainDance> the laptop I'm on is terrible, Ubuntu barely ran, Windows XP barely ran, but the Lubuntu beta runs perfectly
[01:46] <chelz> braden_: http://www.jolicloud.com/community
[01:46] <gyles19> dht123, Intuit has an ONLINE TAX form service based on TurboTax.  If I were so inclined/had no windows access at all, that's what I'd use.
[01:46] <dht123> Now is there a program that works under wine that lets you import a 2008 TurboTax file created under Windows Vista?
[01:46] <chelz> BrainDance: good to hear :)
[01:46] <Trek> BrainDance: you ever tried xubuntu?
[01:46] <darthanubis> kaddi: it all runs in VBOX
[01:46] <BrainDance> I have not
[01:46] <kaddi> chelz: (s)he specifically asked for remove, so I gave him/jer what (s)he asked for :p
[01:46] <meowbuntu> dht123, yes you are saying that an opensorse applications are not secure i dont get y
[01:46] <kinja-sheep> BrainDance: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[01:46] <Trek> BrainDance: or some other lower-resource-sucking distro
[01:46] <BrainDance> The only distros I've tried are Ubuntu, Lubuntu, and I plan on trying Mythbuntu
[01:46] <Excalibur43> À òåïåðü?
[01:46] <chelz> dht123: that is probably something you'd have to research on your own. i'm guessing turbotax wouldn't work to get it easily imported into anything else, but there might be
[01:46] <teage> kaddi: not sure , the app completely blitzed when was time to install .net
[01:46] <kaddi> darthanubis: which would mean having a valid windows version to install on it
[01:47] <chelz> kaddi: ah i didn't see that, just trying to be helpful
[01:47] <darthanubis> kaddi: you assume too much
[01:47] <dht123> meowbuntu: I am NOT talking about security. I am talking about the reliability of Tax calculations that need to be very precise regardless of confusing tax laws and regulations.
[01:47] <xander98989> dht123: I just realized turbotax online uses flash. How cruel.
[01:47] <harjot> watis the difference between an empty session and restore previous session? (startup)
[01:47] <ke1ha_> Im on D400 Laptop right, with two runnign in VM, UB-910 and XB-910 .. only 512MB ram and it's runnign like a champ.
[01:47] <kaddi> teage: i've tried to install .net with no luck in wine, that doesn't seem to work
[01:47] <LiBen> assume'   what is meaning?
[01:47] <kaddi> darthanubis: how do you run windows applications in vbox without a full windows install?
[01:47] <darthanubis> harjot: the difference between the words empty and resume
[01:47] <BrainDance> I had always thought before that a low-resource distro would be super bare-bones, and barely able to do anything useful, but really, lubuntu (while a little buggy, but its a beta) doesn't really sacrifice anything. Yeah it comes with less packages by default but everything runs and it runs with just as many features, just without killingn this old laptop
[01:48] <dht123> How do you people who have been using Linux for a while now file your taxes?
[01:48] <igie> darthanubis: what other info can I provide you that would be of help in assisting me solve this problem?
[01:48] <chelz> dht123: in terms of software to automate the tax process, proprietary software does have the upper-hand atm. used licenses of windows aren't that expensive also. you might keep a small partition around to boot to for proprietary purposes
[01:48] <kinja-sheep> dht123: No. TurboTax file is a proprietary file IMO. Alternately, use form 4506-T and request a computer copy of your tax return. :)
[01:48] <darthanubis> kaddi: again, you assume I imply without
[01:48] <papi> holass
[01:48] <papi> =)
[01:48] <harjot> darthanubis: i was trying to get at what is restored and wat isnt
[01:48] <microlith> dht123: turbotax online, manually, pay someone else to do it
[01:48] <BrainDance> I convinced my fiancee' to put Ubuntu on her laptop, and she says it grew on her, and now that shes comfortable she prefers it over windows
[01:48] <jiohdi> dht123: taxact.com
[01:48] <ke1ha_> Most people use Services for Tax's not Linux.
[01:48] <teage> kaddi: nope, I use vmware for things like that. love my linux but hate when i have to go back to windows for things like that.
[01:48] <chelz> BrainDance: i'd be curious how crunchbang is compared to lubuntu for what you do
[01:48] <darthanubis> harjot: I think a dictionay would suit you better than this channel
[01:48] <jrib> dht123: there are plenty of free ways to e-file
[01:48] <harjot> darthanubis: maybe so
[01:49] <chelz> BrainDance: ubuntu netbook edition just needs a bit more polishing and i'm going to try to get it onto all the laptops i can
[01:49] <harjot> darthanubis: but seriously what type of things are saved
[01:49] <kaddi> darthanubis: since dht123 asked how to run the software without buying a version of windows I'm intrigued to see what you assumed
[01:49] <woodyjlw> kaddi,  that worked. I had to add sudo in front of it but it worked
[01:49] <dht123> jrib: I'm not concerned about e-filing as much as not making mistakes... filing taxes manually is very confusing.
[01:49] <teage> kaddi: I wonder if OSX has a handle on them sort of things
[01:49] <BrainDance> In all honesty, I hated linux for a while, back in 2004 I was a senure in highschool, dual enrolled and took a class in redhat, after that I hated it. I thought everything was just harder to do than in windows and took more time, so what was the point? But early last year I gave it another try, things have changed a lot
[01:49] <darthanubis> kaddi: I stopped paying him attentio a while ago so I missed that part
[01:49] <BrainDance> Whats crushbang? Another distro?
[01:50] <BrainDance> I thought about trying netbook edition, even though this isnt a netbook
[01:50] <harjot> darthanubis: any idea?
[01:50] <darthanubis> harjot: the things you have running? or intentionally save. I mean, really, what else?
[01:50] <microlith> dht123: so you either try and make an existing package work in Wine, or use an online filing tool. or do it yourself with a calculator
[01:50] <kaddi> darthanubis: well next time i suggest you stop replying once you stopped paying attention to what the person asking is actually saying
[01:50] <jiohdi> BrainDance: a window manager bare minimum
[01:50] <BrainDance> I have yet to have to compile anything on any install right now :) Unlike in 2004
[01:50] <darthanubis> kaddi:  I did, I was replying to your nonsense
[01:50] <chelz> dht123: you might be able to import to quicken then from quicken import to one of these: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/49400?theme=print
[01:50] <harjot> darthanubis: what so if i have firfox open, then its gonna stay open?
[01:50] <jrib> dht123: that's what I use, my taxes are simple...
[01:50] <BrainDance> I'll have to look into it, even on decent computers I hate things that just useless resources, I hate itunes :P
[01:50] <darthanubis> harjot: hence, resume
[01:50] <chelz> BrainDance: wait in another 4 years to see how much you have to compile ;)
[01:50] <BrainDance> I think its because, back in the day the only computer I had was a 286 for a while, while P2s were out
[01:50] <ke1ha_>  hated RedHat for a long time too, until Fedora came along, but I've used Slackware, Slack, Debian, UB, I like UB the most for everyday use, then custom builds for HPC apps.
[01:51] <harjot> darthanubis: ok i was just confused
[01:51] <BrainDance> So I had to be lean
[01:51] <darthanubis> harjot: I understand
[01:51] <chelz> !ot | harjot
[01:51] <jiohdi> BrainDance: if you have very very old low power machines crunchbang is good, but not for much else unless you just dont like gui
[01:51] <BrainDance> Its even easier to install software in Ubuntu than Windows, just get a big list of free software, click and choose
[01:51] <harjot> darthanubis: thanks for being an alternative to a dictionary
[01:51] <darthanubis> ;)
[01:51] <dht123> Can moneydance do US Income Taxes?
[01:51] <BrainDance> I pretty much forgot most of what I knew about using the terminal, which is a shame, because in Ubuntu I dont have t use it
[01:52] <jiohdi> dht123: there are at least a half a dozen online services that are free
[01:52] <BrainDance> but I do want to re-learn
[01:52] <kaddi> darthanubis: like what? pointing out that you were assuming the person was having a windows install handy when he actually had stated he hadn't? :p
[01:52] <ke1ha_> dht123: Google + Linux + Taxes Applications
[01:52] <BrainDance> But I cant think of what to do or what I'd even have to do?
[01:52] <ekim1> BrainDance, I have heard good things about Puppy Linux but never used it.  It is made to run with minimim specs.
[01:52] <ke1ha_> we're not tax experts here.
[01:52] <jiohdi> BrainDance: I generally use the terminal as a short cut to get programs I like
[01:52] <LiBen> How can I log chian's channal?
[01:52] <dht123> TurboTax online doesnt seem to support Linux. I checked. It tells me to "upgrade" my operating system
[01:53] <dht123> ... to Windows 7
[01:53] <chelz> dht123: you have to spoof your useragent
[01:53] <ke1ha_> Call them, you know, pick up the phone.
[01:53] <dht123> chelz: I don't even know what that means.
[01:53] <BrainDance> jiohda, sadly every time I've used it I've just been pasting someone elses commands
[01:53] <modulationz> dht123: https://turbotaxweb.turbotaxonline.intuit.com/open/registration/Start.htm
[01:53] <BrainDance> but is it really faster and more efficient to work with a command line?
[01:53] <darthanubis> kaddi: I figured a lover of all things closed source as he moaned about would have multiple copies of windows on hand. but seriously, they have windows vdis online. But he said he was too dumb and lazy for that even. So he is up a vreek regardless. Mind you, these are his self references not mine.
[01:53] <chelz> BrainDance: for some things that can be automated
[01:54] <jiohdi> braindance if you learn apt-cache search and then apt-get install whatever you can get programs loads quicker than synaptic
[01:54] <fajar> fajar@sinargalesong.co.id
[01:54] <BrainDance> thats the thing, on this laptop its just firefox, xchat, abiword, pidgin
[01:54] <BrainDance> stuff like that
[01:54] <teage> dht123: konquror has a net feature to be recognized as many browsers, I wonder if it can fool the online turbotax.
[01:54] <Jordan_U> BrainDance, It really depends on what you want to do.
[01:54] <ekim1> seeing all this chat about taxes, what is a good linux accounting package?  Any recommendations?
[01:54] <BrainDance> I'd like to tinker around with it more, but unlike in hgihschool I just dont have the time anymore
[01:55] <jiohdi> BrainDance: if you install lots of machines you will find the benefits, but if not... dont worry about
[01:55] <chelz> BrainDance: you might be lucky enough (from some perspective) to not need to leave GUIs
[01:55] <darthanubis> ekim1: search the repos
[01:55] <darthanubis> for "taxes"
[01:55] <darthanubis> learn to use your software
[01:55] <chelz> ekim1: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/130716 and http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/49400?theme=print
[01:55] <dht123> I only used Linux because I hate Windows and tech-savvy people I know say it's better -- is it really that unsupported?
[01:55] <BrainDance> is there a fully featured browser that runs on linux thats more memory efficient than firefox? I love firefox, but to be honest (especially with my tabbed browsing) it really is a memory hog. And I have issues with it not closing right
[01:55] <BrainDance> Is googles browser any good?
[01:55] <LiBen> ^_^
[01:55] <dht123> Maybe I should just get a Mac...
[01:55] <chelz> crossover office apparently works with quicken
[01:56] <darthanubis> !poll | BrainDance
[01:56] <titan_ark> how can i add the universe repository?
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> BrainDance: I'm on chrome right now.
[01:56] <BrainDance> I stil use windows on my media center pc, might switch to mythbuntu though, I just use linux because generally it does what I want to do a lot better and quicker than a PC, with less the hassle
[01:56] <chelz> BrainDance: some use google chrome. i personally use chromium, arora, and epiphany in addition to firefox
[01:56] <darthanubis> !ot | BrainDance
[01:56] <trineox> BrainDance: google chrome is decent i use it as well along with firefox
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> BrainDance: you should also consider xmbc (ubuntu based)
[01:56] <kaddi> BrainDance: learn to use the command line and you can disable your touchpad all together. ;) TZhat's the main reason I use the command line as much as I do... using the touchpad for anything is just a pain :D
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> *xbmc
[01:57] <BrainDance> Well, I guess I do have a support question, how do I go about installing chrome? I didn't see it in synaptic
[01:57] <chelz> kaddi: sounds like you need a usb mouse ;)
[01:57] <jiohdi> BrainDance: you can try opera its pretty good for ubuntu
[01:57] <kaddi> BrainDance: there's also opera as a browser
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> BrainDance: go here: http://www.google.com/chrome
[01:57] <chelz> BrainDance: http://www.google.com/search?q=chrome+for+linux
[01:57] <trineox> BrainDance: it has bin file for linux download google it with linux
[01:57] <kaddi> hehe jiohdi beat me
[01:57] <darthanubis> jesus, there is a option to turn off the pad when typing
[01:57] <ke1ha_> You want commercial Support for Ubuntu, Call Conaical, you cna get all  the commercial support your wallet can handle.
[01:57] <chelz> wow everyone is talking to BrainDance
[01:57] <darthanubis> do you people even use ubuntu?
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> there is a deb file
[01:58] <dht123> ... TurboTax says I need to install Adobe Reader, but I can already open PDFs. How can I make it stop asking?
[01:58] <BrainDance> alright, sounds good. Thanks for everyones help! This has seriously been the friendliest support channel I've ever been in!
[01:58] <trineox> darthanubis: yes i use ubuntu 99% of the time
[01:58] <Trek> dht123: install adobe reader
[01:58] <titan_ark> could some one please help me with adding the universe repo and i also wanted to increase to 4 workspaces/
[01:58] <kaddi> chelz I'm in to deep by now. Main reason I don't use windows it cause I can't get a working command line
[01:58] <dht123> Is that for Linux?
[01:58] <chelz> dht123: such is life with a proprietary program, gotta do what it wants
[01:58] <darthanubis> trineox: because not being aware of simple options in the menu is astonishing
[01:58] <chelz> dht123: no, you would install it with wine
[01:58] <Trek> dht123: they are multi-platform
[01:58] <sebsebseb> dht123: a lot of Tax stuff, if you want to run Windows apps try Wine, or with enough RAM a Windows virtual machine of real Windows
[01:58] <Trek> dht123: but install it under WINE
[01:58] <chelz> kaddi: happened to me too. i can't leave linux these days.
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: right-click the switcher applet --> preferences
[01:59] <ekim1> darthanubis, I use it daily but I am new so I am trying to learn to do more with it.
[01:59] <ke1ha_> sudo apt-get install acroread
[01:59] <dht123> sigh...
[01:59] <jiohdi> dht123: I have absolutely no problem with taxact.com
[01:59] <chelz> dht123: looking into something like crossover would probably be a good idea if you really care about what you're doing, you seemed to consider taxes mission-critical
[01:59] <darthanubis> ekim1: go through the menu and leanr what apps you have and what they do
[01:59] <dht123> Why does every company seem to HATE Linux?
[01:59] <darthanubis> get familiar with synaptic
[01:59] <devrethman> darthanubis: I've used ubuntu forever, and I don't know where most stuff in the menu is. If I wanted to do everything with my mouse, I'd use windows.
[01:59] <darthanubis> !synaptic
[01:59] <trineox> darthanubis: i only use windows for my mmorpg's..thats it.
[01:59] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, i did that and made it 2 rows and 2 columns, but it still gives me 2 only
[01:59] <ke1ha_> if you wnat the FF plugins as well:
[01:59] <Trek> dht123: there's many differemt linux distros thats why :P
[01:59] <ke1ha_> sudo apt-get install acroread mozilla-acroread acroread-plugins
[02:00] <chelz> dht123: it's just not that widely used. it took Mac OS X quite a while to finally get first class support for stuff like Photoshop
[02:00] <dht123> jiohdi: does taxact allow you to import 2008 TurboTax files?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> dht123: not every company, anyway I know what you mean, and  the simple answer to your question, since Windows has most of the desktop market share
[02:00] <darthanubis> devrethman: utter nonsense
[02:00] <ekim1> darthanubis, I do that and also sit back on this channel and see what people are using and talking about.
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: you don't have a 4x4 grid?
[02:00] <LiBen> sudo apt-get install acroread
[02:00] <pitlimit> can anyone tell me what buttons are EOF on ubuntu?
[02:00] <pitlimit> is it ctrl-d?
[02:00] <devrethman> Darthanubis: You want to get into an argument with me over my own usage preferences?
[02:00] <devrethman> That's cure.
[02:00] <devrethman> *cute
[02:00] <dht123> Can someone check if TaxAct can import TurboTax 2008 files
[02:00] <tyler_d> pitlimit: what do you mean?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> dht123: Even if you were using Mac OS X you would get issues with certain things that can be done in Windows
[02:00] <chelz> pitlimit: yep, in a terminal on pretty much all unices that's the key combination
[02:00] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, no a 2x2, should it be a 4x4?
[02:00] <darthanubis> ekim1: this channel is mostly noise. You'd learn more poking through your system, after backing it up of course
[02:00] <teage> lol
[02:00] <papi> marikaa
[02:01] <papi> tas?
[02:01] <tyler_d> pitlimit: in terminal its ctrl-d to exit, ctrl-c to quit normal
[02:01] <tyler_d> pitlimit: or break, and force is ctrl-x
[02:01] <dht123> I don't hate Linux, it's just that nothing seems to work in it.
[02:01] <meowbuntu> i need help i cant use the command y http://pastebin.com/d4a48e8fa
[02:01] <ke1ha_> then dont use it.
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: yes. try 4 col, 1 row. see if that helps.
[02:01] <mrpink57> dht123: a lot of new people say that...
[02:01] <sebsebseb> dht123: depends on what people are doing, and a lot works, or can get working, e.g. Wine or Windows virtual machine
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> dht123, I doubt (but don't know for sure) that installing the Linux version of Acrobat is going to resolve your issue -- you will probably end up having to install the Windows version in Wine for TurboTax to be "aware" of it -- i'm just guessing here, but something to keep in mind if the linux version fails.  good luck.
[02:01] <microlith> dht123: plenty works with it, but there are lots of proprietary applications that assume windows
[02:01] <dht123> I just recently installed Karmic to try it -- I'm not a Linux guru or anything...
[02:01] <teage> dht123: maybe you are doomed for windows
[02:01] <chelz> !es | papi
[02:02] <ekim1> darthanubis, I really do go poking around each day but my main issue is not know what linux program replaces my windoz program, if there is one!!
[02:02] <devrethman> teage: wait, what? How could someone be doomed to windows? That's a terrible fate.
[02:02] <darthanubis> ekim1: google has a list
[02:02] <teage> lol
[02:02] <tyler_d> meowbuntu: its wget "address"
[02:02] <ke1ha_> IIRC charts are not training courses, maybe that would be of more benefit to you.
[02:02] <chelz> dht123: turbotax will likely only recognize other windows things, since that's what it was setup to deal with. in this case the windows environment is everything within wine
[02:02] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to install postgresql, and for whatever reason it's not creating the /etc/postgresql config dir...  What do I do?  I've tried re-install postgresql, I've also tried running dpkg-reconfigure (nothing happens) .
[02:02] <kaddi> ekim1: osalt.com can be of help as well. IF they know the program
[02:02] <chelz> dht123: so you most likely need to install the windows version of acrobat
[02:02] <tyler_d> meowbuntu: the -O- on wget will not save the output
[02:03] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes i have got 4 now. i was trying to set up the cube effect ;) cant seem to get the up and down keys to function
[02:03] <ke1ha_> savid: you runnign it as sudo or a normal user ?
[02:03] <savid> ke1ha_,  sudo
[02:03] <chelz> savid: you might find into reading the stuff in /usr/share/doc/postgresql/
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: for the cube, you need to install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:04] <ekim1> darthanubis, kaddi:  I get that but there usually are ten programs that do the same thing so i always look for the recommended one or mostly used one to figure on less issues.
[02:04] <ke1ha_> Hmm .. interesting. sudo / root puts it in /etc .. have you ched the big rports ?
[02:04] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes i did that and selected the cube and reflection etc
[02:04] <ke1ha_> oops checked ...
[02:04] <savid> chelz,  no this is an ubuntu problem, not a postgresql problem
[02:04] <darthanubis> !poll | ekim1
[02:04] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: ok. does it work now?
[02:04] <ekim1> there are some programs that are NOT done in linux that I can find so far. One is called TeamViewer.
[02:05] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, i am trying to install http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[02:05] <ke1ha_> Yeah, it's a port thing. I'd go to the bugs section, that doesn't seem right. I used to use postg .. ubt moved to mysql. so I've not tried it lately.
[02:05] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, no, it just keeps moving horizontally not like a cube
[02:05] <chelz> ekim1: the chat program empathy has screen sharing capabilities
[02:05] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: did you enable the cube?
[02:05] <ekim1> yeah, i got all that but it is nice to get recommendations or to at least hear that people are using this program or not.
[02:05] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes
[02:06] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, whats rong with tj=hrer command
[02:06] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, i even enables extras and get the wobble
[02:06] <tyler_d> meowbuntu: huh?
[02:06] <meowbuntu> i need help i cant use the command y http://pastebin.com/d4a48e8fa
[02:06] <chelz> meowbuntu:  sudo wget http://deb.playonlinux.com/playonlinux_karmic.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playonlinux.list
[02:06] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, i am trying to install http://www.playonlinux.com/en/download.html
[02:06] <meowbuntu> tyler_d, whats rong with tj=hrer command
[02:07] <chelz> meowbuntu: all on one line, you need stuff after the    -O
[02:07] <tyler_d> lol, just read that
[02:07] <tyler_d> :)
[02:07] <tyler_d> instruction set fail
[02:07] <meowbuntu> oh i see there link is wrong ther
[02:07] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: did you enable rotate cube as well?
[02:07] <meowbuntu> ^ thanks chelz
[02:07] <chelz> meowbuntu: just something you get from experience
[02:08] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes
[02:08] <chelz> ideally all of that sources.list.d creation can be handled in a similar way to the ppa: stuff is
[02:08] <savid> interesting,   an strace on dpkg-reconfigure shows this:  http://dpaste.com/156005/
[02:08] <meowbuntu> chyes i missed it myself
[02:09] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: still no?
[02:09] <meowbuntu> ^ chelz
[02:09] <srlopez> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <julito^> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <sincero> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <miguel_ayu> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <enzo_29> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <g6035> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <h7673> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <jeff__> i need help  please ... i cant get my sound to work with ubuntu
[02:09] <tyler_d> jeff__: are you using alsa or oss?
[02:09] <sincero> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <camila> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <g6035> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <srlopez> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <julito^> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <enzo_29> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <h7673> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <fabian28> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <verona|> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <joelito> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <miguel_ayu> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <alex^> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <z4021> !help ubuntu
[02:09] <ke1ha_> jeff_ which version and kernel ?
[02:09] <jeff__> thats the odd thing i cant find any sound options anywhere
[02:09] <chelz> !ops
[02:09] <bastid_raZor> !ops
[02:09] <Trek> !calltheops
[02:09] <jeff__> hmm im not really sure ... is there a command i can use to tel lme
[02:10] <savid> What is the purpose of the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info?   How do I restore files that are missing from there?
[02:10] <ke1ha_> uname -a
[02:10] <srlopez> !ops
[02:10] <g6035> !ops
[02:10] <julito^> !ops
[02:10] <enzo_29> !ops
[02:10] <miguel_ayu> !ops
[02:10] <h7673> !ops
[02:10] <sincero> !ops
[02:10] <verona|> !ops
[02:10] <camila> !ops
[02:10] <alex^> !ops
[02:10] <fabian28> !ops
[02:10] <z4021> !ops
[02:10] <joelito> !ops
[02:10] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, no :( i saw online i need to set cube caps but i dont see that option
[02:11] <chelz> savid: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2007-August/000659.html
[02:11] <ke1ha_> well, before we go through the whole thing, I installed 9.10 sound worked, did the dist-upgrade, it broke, had to reinstall alsa completely from scratch, then all was well again.
[02:12] <chelz> savid: http://mm.bbspals.org/linux/lost-var-lib-dpkg-on-debian/
[02:12] <jeff__> hmm guess i could upgrade to 9.10
[02:12] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: hmm... I just set effects to normal/exta, and enabled "desktop cube" and "rotate cube" in ccsm.
[02:12] <joelito> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <sincero> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <miguel_ayu> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <camila> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <z4021> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <alex^> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <fabian28> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <verona|> !ops !help !seen !ubunto
[02:12] <Trek> !calltheops
[02:12] <tyler_d> why is everyone doing that?
[02:12] <ke1ha_> jeff_ 2.6.31-32 alsa seems to be working properly.
[02:12] <devrethman> What's with all the ubottu harassment?
[02:13] <Trek> its bots, devrethman
[02:13] <Odd-rationale> spammers
[02:13] <IdleOne> tyler_d: it's a botnet attack. the ops will get it under control in a minute
[02:13] <ke1ha_> opps sri. 2.6.31-19...
[02:13] <rww> devrethman, tyler_d: someone spamming the channel with bots. Best to ignoreit.
[02:13] <alex^> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops
[02:13] <z4021> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops
[02:13] <tyler_d> ahh
[02:13] <devrethman> Wait. There's bots harassing bots? What kind of world is this?
[02:13] <CShadowRun> devrethman: just some kiddie with tiny botnet who thinks he's clever.
[02:13] <rww> ubotu: don't worry, we don't :(
[02:13] <jeff__> cyber world lol
[02:13] <chelz> ideally their IPs would get reported to freenode staff and zlined
[02:13] <Trek> if I were an op, I'd go do that
[02:13] <brando753> guys is there a tool on ubuntu which i can use to print raffle/event tickets? Something like glabels which i use when printing labels
[02:14] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, it seems to rotate and i can move to all 4 workspaces but i cant see the cube and stuff as they show in the videos
[02:14] <alex^> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops !ubotu
[02:14] <z4021> !ops !help !seen !ubunto !ops !ubotu
[02:14] <Trek> WTF THEY'RE BACK!!!
[02:14] <Trek> !calltheops
[02:14] <jeff__> so what do you think ... should i try to upgrade to 9.10 to fix sound
[02:14] <IdleOne> Trek: stop calling the ops. they are here waiting for them
[02:14] <chelz> brando753: http://blog.worldlabel.com/2009/printing-labels-in-ubuntu.html
[02:14] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: try ctrl+alt+right-mouse and hold and move.
[02:14] <ke1ha_> Yes, I'd try 9.10 .. then dist-upgrade .. a new install went without a problem, no sound issues at all.
[02:14] <chelz> brando753: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/56209 and http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/119566
[02:15] <chelz> brando753: all from http://www.google.com/search?q=print+labels+linux+OR+ubuntu
[02:15] <jeff__> kk thanks Kelha
[02:15] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: sorry, left-mouse.
[02:15] <ke1ha_> 9.04 to 9.10 didn't work to well for sound. and initially, 9.10 broke it, but the latest 9.10-ISO-32 workes poretty good.
[02:15] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, oh yes it works in a kind of circular way now =D but i dont see the small cube kinda thing :P
[02:16] <sje46> everytime I watch a youtube video, the sound stops after a few seconds
[02:16] <Trek> i think i'll go hide in off-topic and the Pennsylvania LoCo Team's channels...
[02:17] <chelz> sje46: are you using the firefox and flash plugin from the repos? and does that happen with any other sites using flash besides youtube?
[02:17] <bksst> hi everyone
[02:17] <chelz> !hi | bksst
[02:17] <kaddi> hi :)
[02:17] <bksst> my first time here
[02:17] <sje46> chelz: firefox and chrome.  DOn't know what flash plugin you're talking abot.  And grooveshark doesn't work well either
[02:18] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, i was also seeing how to install the mac-style dock at the bottom, any ideas? i see that the universal repo needs to be activated. how do i do that?
[02:18] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: you can adjjust the zoom in the ccsm settings
[02:18] <chelz> sje46: in a terminal do:  dpkg -l | flash
[02:18] <sje46> although, chelz, with chrome, when I refresh, the music begins again, but that doesn't work with firefox.  I assume that has somethign to do with separate processes
[02:18] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, okay shall check now
[02:18] <`mOOse`>  sje46 right click on the youtube video box and then left click on the little envelope icon - make your cache unlimited
[02:18] <bksst> thanks for the info
[02:18] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: there are many dock applications you can use. My personal favorite is gnome-do with the docky theme.
[02:18] <chelz> `mOOse`: my player is set to no cache and YT works fine
[02:19] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: gnome-do should be in the repos
[02:19] <`mOOse`> has to do with flash sucking
[02:19] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, could you help me set it up? i am not very well versed with linux
[02:19] <sje46> chelz,  No command 'flash' found, did you mean:
[02:19] <sje46>  Command 'flasm' from package 'flasm' (universe)
[02:19] <chelz> sje46: sorry in a terminal do:  dpkg -l | grep flash
[02:19] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: sure. first install gnome-do
[02:20] <sje46> ii  adobe-flashplugin                          10.0.42.34-2karmic1                        Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
[02:20] <brando753> guys is there a tool on ubuntu which i can use to print raffle/event tickets? simmilar to glabels not glabels
[02:20] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, done
[02:20] <`mOOse`> but in the meantime
[02:20] <`mOOse`> make your cache as big as possible to give youtube a chance to read ahead
[02:20] <brando753> glabels dosent print tickets
[02:20] <chelz> brando753: i linked you to a bunch of sites
[02:20] <Odd-rationale> titan_ark: would you like to pm me? (or let me pm you?)
[02:20] <tyler_d> anyone know how to hide the join/part in empathy?
[02:20] <sje46> 'm00se' but it isn't working for firefox or chrome
[02:21] <titan_ark> Odd-rationale, yes please could you PM?
[02:21] <sje46> so it probably isn't the cache
[02:21] <brando753> chelz: those where for printing labels? im trying to print Raffle/Event Tickets
[02:22] <chelz> brando753: probably openoffice using a template: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/openofficeorg-template-collections
[02:22] <alabamahit> I have a question. If I install Ubuntu with WUBI, would it be slower thatn if I installed it myself froma  livecd? Or would it be the same?
[02:22] <bazhang> alabamahit, wubi is slower, more of a demo
[02:23] <sje46> @ chelz "ii  adobe-flashplugin                          10.0.42.34-2karmic1                        Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10"
[02:23] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, The install itself or the resulting system?
[02:23] <chelz> brando753: http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=64135
[02:23] <perlsyntax> How do i see what the cpu speed are in ubuntu?
[02:23] <chelz> sje46: ah i saw that. thanks.
[02:23] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, The resulting system.
[02:23] <perlsyntax> ?
[02:23] <tyler_d> perlsyntax: in terminal type top
[02:23] <ke1ha_> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:24] <bksst> does anyone have issues with youtube video not having sound when you play a couple of them
[02:24] <chelz> sje46: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255422 - follow the instructions in the top post
[02:24] <chelz> bksst: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255422 - follow the instructions in the top post
[02:24] <tyler_d> cat /proc/cpuinfo perlsyntax
[02:24] <sje46> bksst, does it crap out in the first few seconds?
[02:24] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, IO will be somewhat slower because it has to write to an ext image file on an ntfs file system. Everything else should the same speed.
[02:24] <perlsyntax> thanks
[02:24] <bksst> sometimes
[02:24] <semitones> bazhang, are there guides in place to installing a real ubuntu installation after trying it in wubi? Or does the user have to figure it out him/herself?
[02:24] <bksst> thanks for the link chelz
[02:25] <ke1ha_> if you just want the speed only, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHZ
[02:25] <perlsyntax> thnks
[02:25] <IdleOne> semitones: the wubi website has instructions
[02:25] <bazhang> semitones, migrating a wubi install to a hdd? is that what you mean
[02:25] <sje46> but, chelz, the same thing happens with chrome...
[02:25] <ke1ha_> sri, that' MHz with small case "z"
[02:25] <bksst> yeah, the fix is only for firefox
[02:26] <tyler_d> or a -i ke15SAABM2A
[02:26] <chelz> sje46: oss might fix it
[02:26] <bksst> I was told to either delete or install fsound
[02:26] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, I installed with wubi, it took less than 10 minutes. from website. Was just curious if the OS itself will be slower.? Now that I have it installed.
[02:26] <markymark> Question, where is the device manager?
[02:26] <semitones> bazhang, yes, and does it warn the user that wubi isn't as fast?
[02:27] <bazhang> semitones, not sure if it warns, but apparently the developer of wubi himself said it was more of a demo than a real install
[02:27] <semitones> bazhang, IdleOne I want to know if I should recommend wubi to windows refugees
[02:27] <chelz> semitones: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How%20do%20I%20migrate%20to%20a%20real%20partition,%20and/or%20get%20rid%20of%20Windows%20entirely?
[02:27] <bksst> what's oss
[02:27] <sje46> okay, trying it, chelz
[02:27] <Jordan_U> bazhang, Source?
[02:27] <ke1ha_> If you running anythign from within Windows, even Cygwin .. it's not in a true Linux state and the overhead of the host OS will affect it's performance
[02:27] <alabamahit> markymark, do you mean  (  System ->Administor -> System Monitor ) ?
[02:28] <IdleOne> semitones: it is a good way for people to try it out
[02:28] <chelz> ke1ha_: wubi only uses the windows partition, it doesn't actually load anything from windows
[02:28] <ke1ha_> best way to see "real" performance is a Native install.
[02:28] <ke1ha_> anythign other will be affected buy the Host.
[02:28] <alabamahit> wubi, don't run from "Inside" windows lol
[02:28] <markymark> No, not system monitor. I want to see the installed devices.
[02:29] <chelz> ntfs-3g is fuse so it runs in userspace and that isn't good for speed
[02:29] <ke1ha_> If Widows is "running" it has an affect, if it's not running, it wont.
[02:29] <alabamahit> windows is not running
[02:29] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, ke1ha_: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[02:30] <ke1ha_> then it should be close to true native Linux performance, aside from the File system, unless WUBI partitions it to EXT3 /4 or something other than NTFS
[02:30] <alabamahit> Sweet :)
[02:30] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, Thanks :)
[02:30] <markymark> Where is Device Manager in Ubuntu?
[02:30] <chelz> coLinux/andLinux might be more of 'running inside' windows
[02:30] <Jordan_U> alabamahit, np :)
[02:31] <sje46> chelz, etc/firefox/firefoxrc doesn't exist =/
[02:31] <chelz> markymark: linux does things different than windows
[02:31] <sje46> it's an empty file, I mean
[02:31] <chelz> sje46: yeah you have to make it
[02:31] <blackmamba> hello
[02:31] <semitones> markymark, what are you looking to do?
[02:31] <blackmamba> anyone having issues using that elementary GTK theme?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> markymark, "lshw" from the terminal, there is also a GUI application I can't remember the name of, but it doesn't come installed by default.
[02:31] <sje46> but I don't see "FIREFOX_DSP=”none” , chelz
[02:32] <alabamahit> Jordan_U, what is messed up i looked there before coming here lol, didn't find it lol. just looked now and it says clear as day.. "The performance is identical to a standard installation, except for hard-disk access which is slightly slower than an installation to a dedicated partition."
[02:32] <chelz> sje46: are you on intel?
[02:32] <koshari> markymark gnome-system-monitor
[02:32] <markymark> I have a CD Burner installed but system does not recognize it.
[02:32] <sje46> chelz, I have an intel celeron processor
[02:32] <chelz> sje46: see if this applies: http://downlode.org/Creative/Writing/Notebook/2009/11/fixing_sound_issues_with_flash_in_ubuntu_and_kubuntu_karmic_on_an_intel_sound_card.html
[02:33] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:33] <_CommandeR_> anyone know how to install quake3 on ubuntu?
[02:34] <ke1ha_> Looks like WUBI is a boot time app, so it should be close depending on the file-system selected on the partition.
[02:34] <sje46> chelz, I don't know if that applies...it doesn't make random popping noises
[02:34] <sje46> chelz, what do I do abotu that empty file?
[02:35] <Jordan_U> sje46, Are you using Ubuntu 9.10?
[02:35] <chelz> sje46: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:35] <chelz> i gotta brb
[02:35] <dht123> !windows
[02:35] <sje46> I am using ubuntu 9.10
[02:36] <Jordan_U> sje46, If you open System > Preferences > Sound, and go to the "Applications" tab, do you see chrome / firefox / flashplugin listed?
[02:37] <sje46> Jordan_U, no...
[02:38] <bksst> jordan_U I have firefox listed but no chrome
[02:38] <markymark> I am using Ubunty 9.04. Where can I see installed devices?
[02:39] <sje46> I have rhythmbox, totem, and alsa-plugin(chrome), Jordan_U
[02:39] <sje46> so I guess that is chrome
[02:40] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:40] <Jordan_U> sje46, When flash videos start having sound problems does rythmbox continue playing fine?
[02:41] <sje46> rhythmbox plays just fine, Jordan_U .  Also, I tried chelz's last suggestion, removing flash and reinstalling it (I think that's what it was), and I thought it was working, but it stopped playing ausio at the end
[02:41] <koshari> markymark for hardware scan the bus, ie lspci and lsusb, for drivers scam the loaded modules, ie lsmod
[02:42] <koshari> b0w what do you want to do with it?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> markymark, For a GUI you can install Sysinfo from Applications > Add / Remove
[02:44] <carebear> omelien.no
[02:47] <b0w> koshari: i want to connect my phone to my laptop
[02:49] <b0w> hahaha so quiet, everyone watching SB
[02:49] <CrazyBonz> hi
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> b0w:  Nope. :)
[02:51] <b0w> hahah its not regular to see this chan quiet
[02:52] <b0w> but we are not suppose to talk about this in here :P
[02:53] <bksst> how about audio issues while watching videos on youtube?
[02:53] <christopher> hi everybody
[02:54] <bksst> on ff and chrome
[02:54] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> bksst:  it works here in flash on chrome. or try the html5 feature of chrome and youtuibe
[02:54] <christopher> exit
[02:55] <bksst> how do I install html5
[02:55] <lostinspace_46> While installing      I get this message...error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0     gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable These pkgs are installed, but I can't find the executables.  How do I deal with this?
[02:56] <lostinspace_46> installing farsight
[02:57] <b0w> hello! anyone can help with bluetooth? my pc recognize it but i cant make it work
[02:58] <ubuntuser> how would i go about switching my laptop to my elevision monitor
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> ubuntuser:  here iuse either the laptop special keys to swotch monitors. or the display settings tool
[02:59] <brando753> is there a way i can take photos from my digital camera hooked up to my laptop via usb
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> brando753:  some cams do work as a webcam.. some dont. so it depends
[03:00] <brando753> if it did how would i
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> read the cam manual..
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> or check its menus.. or try it
[03:00] <_CommandeR_> how do i rename a partition in ubuntu ?
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> bye all.
[03:00] <igie> what do I type in terminal to see disk permissions ?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> brando753, Try a program called "cheeze"
[03:02] <gher06> hi
[03:02] <nawk> I realize many screensavers  found in previous versions of Ubuntu are no longer available in Karmic Koala
[03:02] <nawk> e.g. lattice
[03:02] <koshari> b0w ok first see if you can see your phone with hcitool scan
[03:02] <nawk> how can I get them ?
[03:02] <Phillips> #ubuntu, how do I make that leap from hello world to fully fledged program?
[03:03] <BluesKaj> nawk, install xscreensaver
[03:03] <hyperstream> Phillips, depends what language you use ?
[03:03] <Jordan_U> nawk, Don't install xscreensaver
[03:03] <lostinspace_46> While installing  farsight    I get this message...error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0     gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable These pkgs are installed, but I can't find the executables.  How do I deal with this?
[03:03] <Phillips> hyperstream: python
[03:03] <Jordan_U> nawk, Install xscreensaver-gl-extra and / or xscreensaver-data-extra
[03:04] <nawk> Jordan_U: okay, which package should I apt-get to get "lattice back"
[03:04] <hyperstream> Phillips, try #python or googling python tutorials(best way for online)
[03:04] <nawk> okay
[03:04] <nawk> thanks
[03:04] <userzy> via GParted on an ubuntu install CD I completely removed all ubuntu partitions and extended my winxp partition to cover the whole disk, yet when I try to boot I get the GRUB rescue console.  What is wrong?
[03:04] <Phosis> There is a good book on Python, called Learning Python...I have had some good results with it
[03:04] <koshari> b0w you need to use ppp protocon and you may need to bind the rfcom manually, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/416056
[03:05] <Phillips> Phosis: Alright thanks
[03:05] <Phillips> hyperstream: I'll be frequenting #python from now on
[03:05] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, well , I prefer to use xscreensaver as a vehicle to display my pictures on the , not as a source of images
[03:05] <koshari> b0w alternatively a 3g phone MAy be different
[03:05] <BluesKaj> err display
[03:06] <Jordan_U> BluesKaj, Yes, but there are many differences and consequences when installing xscreensaver, nawk just want's the latice screensaver, not to replace gnome-screensaver ( though he may decide to do that also )
[03:09] <bcurtiswx> anyone know what happened to the lyrics plugin for banshee in 1.5.3 ?
[03:09] <bcurtiswx> is it just me?
[03:09] <jschall> userzy: you have to restore the windows boot loader using a windows disk.
[03:09] <tp43> I have been running ubuntu for about a week now.  I have had two crashes
[03:10] <gibby82> hi
[03:10] <tp43> it may be cairo or compiz
[03:10] <jschall> tp43: there's something wrong with your hardware or there's something wrong with your hardware drivers or your definition of "crash" is just too broad.
[03:10] <gibby82> can anyone help me with a display issue?
[03:11] <nawk> Jordan_U atm, I'm using gnome-screensaver.  Do many people prefer xscreensaver over gnome-screensaver?
[03:11] <tp43> jschall, when you put in the windows install cd, you can skip install and go to repair, and a command prompt.  Type fix mbr, and in will install windows boot loader
[03:12] <jschall> tp43: i didn't ask about that
[03:12] <savid> Uhhh..  why do I get "unknown host" when I do "ping localhost"
[03:12] <tp43> well, my screen freezes, and I can't move my mouse
[03:12] <jschall> tp43: also i think its "fixmbr," one word
[03:12] <tp43> I have to shutdown
[03:12] <jschall> tp43: start by testing memory with memtest
[03:13] <tp43> jschall, ok, lets see
[03:13] <jschall> tp43: then run mprime for a while (8-24 hours) with compiz or other compositing off
[03:13] <savid> my /etc/hosts shows 127.0.0.1     localhost localhost.localdomain
[03:13] <Jordan_U> nawk, xscreensaver allows you to change the settings of individual screensavers, gnome-screensaver doesn't but integrates much better into Gnome.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | tp43
[03:13] <savid> why would localhost be not found??
[03:13] <voss749> Ok the saints have won the superbowl, if the cubs win the world series , then I will take 2012 seriously ;-)
[03:13] <fosser_josh> I have a laptop lenovo y500 and I installed ubuntu 9.10 but now problem is that sound is not proper, there is a sound but its like a noisy sound no clear sound from laptop speakers
[03:14] <lostinspace_46> While installing  farsight    I get this message...error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0     gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:  Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable These pkgs are installed, but I can't find the executables.  How do I deal with this?
[03:15] <_CommandeR_> need help with quake3. When launching from terminal with command quake3 i get sound but when doing a menu launcher the game is silent.
[03:15] <RPG-Master> OK, I'm playing a game, all is good, UNTIL the game randomly slows down and my CPU spikes. It'll stay like that until I close the game and open it again. This happens to just about anything that uses openGL
[03:15] <tp43> fosser_josh, that's crazy, maybe speaker is blown, is it brand new.  Sound usually works no problem.  Maybe it gets muted is the worst thing that could happen
[03:15] <gibby82> Trying to set an external monitor to 1280x1024. Toshiba notebook with Intel 945GMA, Ubuntu 9.10 x86. Currently just gives me an odd 1152x864 resolution
[03:15] <RPG-Master> Also, I'm using an NVIDIA card
[03:16] <fosser_josh> tp43: nah in external speakers sounds work fine but for internal speakers its giving problem
[03:16] <tp43> fosser_josh, oh, so I was right, your speakers are blown.  You bought it used?
[03:17] <mezquitale> RPG-Master, do you have anything else open at the same time?  I've seen the same problem with npviewerviewer.bin-- flash
[03:17] <charles__> anybody know what i may have done when formatting a drive partition to make it unmountable in  liveCD environment? is there some way i may have set a lock on the drive?
[03:17] <fosser_josh> its my friends laptop in xp speakers work fine but bow I Installed ubuntu its giving problem
[03:17] <jschall> fosser_josh: what i'd do is get alsamixer, go through and turn everything to half volume and see if it fixes the problem. sometimes max volume on certain things can cause distortion within the sound card.
[03:18] <fosser_josh> jschall: okh will see
[03:18] <gibby82> Trying to set an external monitor to 1280x1024. Toshiba notebook with Intel 945GMA, Ubuntu 9.10 x86. Currently just gives me an odd 1152x864 resolution
[03:19] <tp43> is there a way to make tpb program, for on-screen volume adjusting graphic, and screen brightness graphic run on startup, Cause I have to do xhost + and then sudo tpb & every boot
[03:19] <naxocore2000> a
[03:20] <charles__> lemme see if i can put this another way: is there some sort of partition ownership that you can set under linux?
[03:21] <mvsn> hello. wondering if someone could help me... im a little confused, i setup vsftp, got everything working, but anything i upload the permissions are set to 600, i cannot seem to find the place to change that setting.. and what should the setting be if im ftping to my web server?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> charles__, partition ownership ? Do you mean boot order /
[03:22] <ramiro> hi, how do I check if all files belonging to a package are properly installed?
[03:23] <Joundill> Hey, I need some help setting up my Pixel ProView bt878 PCI TV tuner card
[03:23] <BluesKaj> ramiro, run it in the cli , to check for errors
[03:23] <Joundill> jeremy@jeremy-desktop:~$ lspci | grep Bt878
[03:23] <Joundill> 02:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02)
[03:23] <Joundill> 02:0a.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)
[03:23] <_CommandeR_> need help with quake3. When launching from terminal with command quake3 i get sound but when doing a menu launcher the game is silent.
[03:24] <charles__> BluesKaj: no, ubuntu boots up just fine and i have access to all of my drives and partitions. there is one partition, however, that i reformatted to ext4 (i'm coming over from xp). whenever i try to access the drive from any liveCD (as i go through different distros checking them out) the ext4 partition shows up in the file manager, but i cannot mount it to access the contents.
[03:24] <k0rn> Can someone answer a question for me about installing Ubuntu. I have used it before on AMD architecture. The download says AMD64. My question is im on a new box now that runs Intel Core 2 Duo. Will Ubuntu work with this?
[03:24] <slashcheese> hey guys, whats the best ubuntu iso for old laptop with 128mb ram?
[03:24] <mawst> GarbageCanix
[03:24] <ramiro> BluesKaj: run what in the cli?
[03:24] <Joundill> slash, I'd go for slackware with xfce, not Ubuntu :D
[03:24] <slashcheese> im looking at 32bit 9.10 iso , not sure if the netbook version works
[03:24] <BluesKaj> the package name , ramiro
[03:24] <mawst> Gentoo with CLI
[03:24] <mawst> :P
[03:24] <jschall> k0rn: amd64 refers to the 64-bit version of the x86 instruction set. so, yes.
[03:25] <ramiro> BluesKaj: I want to check all packages that are currently installed
[03:25] <k0rn> Ok Duh that makes sense
[03:25] <tp43> charles__, whats so great about ext4?  I still use 3
[03:25] <k0rn> thanks
[03:25] <Jordan_U> charles__, How are you trying to mount it and what happens when you do?
[03:25] <jschall> k0rn: its named that way because amd made the first 64-bit x86 processors.
[03:25] <slashcheese> i ran ubuntu 9.10 on a netbook and it runs fast with only 64mb ram
[03:25] <Joundill> Really, 64 mb?
[03:25] <Joundill> what DE?
[03:25] <tp43> slashcheese, all drivers?
[03:26] <slashcheese> runs beautiful on my dell mini9
[03:26] <k0rn> jschall: Thank you. I run Windows 7 64-bit on this laptop, but i also love ubuntu so its time to dual boot it.
[03:26] <charles__> tp43: i dunno, it just seemed like the thing to do
[03:26] <slashcheese> so i thought ..... install the ubuntu 9.10 netbook version on the old laptop and ???
[03:26] <k0rn> Nice Iso is done
[03:26] <slashcheese> anyone try this
[03:26] <jschall> k0rn: try kubuntu too =P
[03:27] <jschall> k0rn: i guarantee if you use kde 4.3 for long enough you'll fall in love
[03:27] <tp43> charles__, I did it too, well, it came by default and so I didn't change it, and then I was having grub boot issues, and I am not sure if they were related, or I did something else wrong, but I changed everything back to ext3
[03:27] <BluesKaj> Jordan_U, he's trying to mount it from a live cd
[03:27] <ke1ha_> ext4 was written from scratch, where ext3 was basically upgraded ext3. with all the options enabled on ext3, ext4 performance is very close, and it's a mature fs, where as ext4 is not proven is all areas yet.
[03:27] <mrpink57_> slashcheese: it may work but the kernel has Im sure a few customizations for a netbook
[03:27] <ardchoille> !ot | jschall
[03:28] <Jordan_U> ke1ha_, ext4 was not written from scratch
[03:28] <charles__> Jordan_U: i go in through the file manager and click the drive like normal. all other drives mount just fine, except this one, which seems to either : A) dissappear from the list without warning or B) give me an error message which, sadly, i failed to write down
[03:28] <k0rn> jschall: I go to school for computer programming so a linux environment is ideal.
[03:28] <jschall> ardchoille: you realise that i just used 1 line to recommend kubuntu, and you just upped it to 3 and now made me respond, upping it to 4 lines.
[03:28] <ke1ha_> if you have ext3 already, it's questionable whether you should upgrade, but new installs, probably the best option.
[03:28] <tp43> I like to use gnome, cause it runs the macosx style docks better
[03:28] <jschall> ardchoille: all because you have a stick up your butt. 5 lines.
[03:28] <slashcheese> mrpink57: thats why Im asking this group. maybe Ill just do a usb live boot and test it out
[03:29] <tp43> But KDE was the reason I switched from debian, cause they still have kde 3.
[03:29] <voss749> I like to use gnome because kde 4 is a freakin mess
[03:29] <Jordan_U> charles__, Do you know how to mount via the terminal?
[03:29] <tp43> The desklets are better in kde though
[03:29] <jschall> voss749: i see gnome as a bit of a mess.
[03:29] <ardchoille> Let's take the KDE$ conversations to another channelplease
[03:30] <voss749> Gnome is now more like KDE 3 than KDE 4 is
[03:30] <slashcheese> wow, lots of discussions on desktops here. hahaha. reminds me of 1995 windows chat groups
[03:30] <ardchoille> *KDE4
[03:30] <charles__> Jordan_U: I.. should... i've been learning a lot of new stuff and sadly mounting was the first and i may have lost it already... one sec
[03:30] <tp43> voss749, I never noticed anything wrong with it, except the thing I mentioned already, macosx style docks run better on gnome
[03:30] <JabberWalkie> hey, so I have a program that needs to be pointed to a sound device like /dev/dsp...but im using pulse audio, what can I point it to?
[03:30] <tp43> slashcheese, I love the eye candy, I have cairo dock
[03:30] <jschall> ardchoille: although i can see how mentioning kde in a gnome channel can kinda snowball.
[03:31] <voss749> I dont mind eye candy but it should not effect performance.
[03:31] <nawk> Jordan_U: lattice is not there. :-(
[03:31] <tp43> I like the compiz interface too.  I have it set so I click mouse on the left edge to zoom out all my windows, and right edge window to alt-tab between windows
[03:31] <nawk> oh well
[03:31] <voss749> Im not fond of compiz either
[03:31] <jschall> voss749: eye candy will always effect performance.
[03:32] <tp43> voss749, It doesn't at all.  I have dual core, gig or ram, if I don't run it, that computing power will never get used
[03:32] <panfist> would a small private network (no internet connection at all) need a dns server?
[03:32] <toastedmilk> Anyone know how to enable direct rendering with the radeon driver in 8.04?
[03:32] <mandi> i have an old desktop that i just converted to ubuntu today, an old laptop that converted earlier in the week, and two other newer laptops that are currently still windows - i'd like to know the best way to share files, mostly with the old desktop as a storage place - any suggestions?
[03:33] <tp43> I could put my system monitors on, and it will max out just the same if I don't have these eye candy on.  But there were two system freezes I experience that I bet are caused by compiz and/or cairo-dock
[03:33] <Joundill> mandi, google samba
[03:33] <klappi> panfist: if you want the hosts to have names...
[03:33] <jschall> mandi: ubuntu will automatically configure samba for you and share your files with your windows computers
[03:33] <mandi> joundill & jschall: thx
[03:33] <lostinspace_46> In karmic which repo is farsight in?  I can't seem to find it.
[03:34] <jschall> mandi: just open nautilus (the gnome file browser) and right click on something you want to share.
[03:34] <mawst> Is cedega really required for gaming anymore or does wine do the trick
[03:34] <voss749> The main reason I use mint not 9.10 vanilla is because I like my task bar on the bottom not the top!
[03:34] <jschall> mandi: go to properties, sharing. just like windows =P
[03:34] <Krepta> Hello, I need help, I posted on ubuntu forum, and no response yet.
[03:34] <jschall> voss749: o.O you can just drag it.
[03:34] <tp43> well you need compiz to run cairo-dock,
[03:34] <Joundill> jschall, mandi wants to share Ubuntu - Windoze
[03:34] <tp43> who is the commercial backing of Ubuntu?
[03:34] <Joundill> voss749, you can move the task bar.
[03:34] <koshari> mandi samba
[03:35] <Krepta> Canonical
[03:35] <voss749> jschall, well mint is more stable in general but its the little things I like
[03:35] <jschall> Joundill: i know
[03:35] <jschall> Joundill: that's how it works in ubuntu iirc, i'm on kubuntu though.
[03:35] <tp43> voss749, lol, what is mint anyway?
[03:35] <Krepta> a plant
[03:35] <jschall> tp43: an ubuntu-based distro
[03:35] <voss749> tp43, a ubuntu variant
[03:35] <tp43> oh,
[03:35] <koshari> voss749 how do you determine mint is more "stable" ?
[03:35] <tp43> let me check it out
[03:35] <voss749> I run ubuntu 9.10 on my desktop and mint 8 on my laptop
[03:35] <Joundill> jschall: ahh :D
[03:35] <mandi> also, can anyone tell me how to resize vista for a dual-boot set up?
[03:36] <jschall> i haven't used mint but i would guess its less stable but has more tweaking into it
[03:36] <mrpink57_> tp43: i think the best way to describe it is what Ubuntu would be when it is full on mainstream
[03:36] <jschall> mandi: the ubuntu disk will do it for you.
[03:36] <k0rn> hmm new problem
[03:36] <koshari> mandi use gparted, remeber as always backup any critical data before attempting partitioning
[03:36] <klappi> jschall: i havent used mint so i dont make guesses about it
[03:36] <Krepta> Even if it is NTFS5?
[03:36] <jschall> mandi: you install windows and then install ubuntu and the ubuntu installer will give you options to resize partitions
[03:36] <k0rn> Windows 7 disk image burner is telling me the image is not valid
[03:37] <Joundill> Does anybody know how to turn off these "X has left the room" messages?
[03:37] <Joundill> I'm in Pidgin
[03:37] <jschall> Krepta: i would assume so. i haven't tried dual booting with windows (which i don't use) in a long time.
[03:37] <Krepta> I'm on the webchat app
[03:37] <tp43> mrpink57_ huh?  what do you mean, or are you talking about 'it'
[03:37] <mrpink57_> tp43: Mint
[03:37] <Krepta> All of the tools I've used to rezise partitions don't allow resizing of NTFS5 partitions, I don't know if the newest gparted can do it.
[03:38] <tp43> mrpink57, oh, how is mint so mainstream?
[03:38] <koshari> Joundill tools > plugins, jin/leave notifier
[03:38] <jschall> Joundill: do you really want to be left hanging wondering why someone has stopped talking to you?
[03:38] <Joundill> thanks
[03:38] <Joundill> jschall: sorry?
[03:38] <Krepta> I like knowing I'm not being ignored
[03:39] <Jordan_U> JabberWalkie, What program? ( Sorry if you already answered, I was disconnected )
[03:39] <mrpink57_> tp43: nevermind, I would google Linux Mint.
[03:39] <bastid_raZor> jschall: are you just an ass tonight or are you always this stupid?
[03:39] <Viper1432> Krepta,  you may have to get a copy of parted magic to do what you're wanting to do.  I thought gparted would, but ...shrugs.
[03:39] <Krepta> I'm having trouble getting windows vista to print to a canon pixma mp510 connected and shared from a desktop running ubuntu 9.10.  It was working fine two days ago.  Now, it sais access denied, cannot connect.
[03:39] <jschall> Joundill: if you can't see people leaving, then i could leave right now and you wouldn't know if i was ignoring you or had left the room
[03:39] <Viper1432> parted magic WILL do what you want with that ntfs partition though.
[03:39] <Krepta> I'm really getting frustrated.
[03:39] <Joundill> jschall: lol, fair 'nuff
[03:39] <Krepta> I've used partition magic, great tool, still can't resize ntfs5
[03:39] <tp43> mrpink57, I did, I checked out there web site, I dunno, so many distros, Ubuntu is going good for me
[03:40] <jschall> bastid_raZor: how am i an ass, or stupid?
[03:40] <Krepta> wait, huh?
[03:40] <Joundill> I've got a rather big question to ask :P
[03:40] <mrpink57_> tp43: im not asking you to change, they just add a lot of additional non-free stuff
[03:40] <Joundill> I want to install my Pixelview Prolink TV tuner PCI card
[03:40] <tp43> But when debian does their next release, I will definitely try it and maybe switch back.  cause they have acpi all messed up these days, and I can't fix it
[03:40] <Krepta> If anyone can help me with the network printing problem I'm having, that would be Really awesome.
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Krepta, Gparted can resize ntfs, you just need ntfsprogs installed.
[03:40] <`mOOse`> wait - let me get the life-rescue-inflatable-matress then Joundill
[03:40] <panfist> is synaptic multithreaded? would turning on hyperthreading on a single core processor increase performance? I ask because I have a 3.0GHz p4 with 1GB of RAM, and it hangs for over 30 seconds every time I mark a package to install
[03:41] <tp43> mrpink57, oh really, I like the sound of that, like what though
[03:41] <Krepta> jordan_u, excellent, that's what I wanted to know. :)
[03:41] <Jordan_U> Krepta, np :)
[03:41] <mrpink57_> tp43: read their site and google about Mint to see the changes maybe a Ubuntu vs Mint
[03:41] <Krepta> Now if only I could make this stupid windblowz vista print.
[03:41] <`mOOse`> panfist, welcome to linux
[03:41] <jschall> Krepta: i would look for logs on the linux machine.
[03:42] <k0rn> Krepta: upgrade to 7 if u can its great
[03:42] <mrpink57_> panfist: hyperthreading is going to improve since it tells the system you have two cores therefore more can be done.
[03:42] <Arsin> Can someone help me out with FahMon
[03:42] <Krepta> Linux reports nothing, as if nothing is even reaching it... where do I find the logs?
[03:42] <JabberWalkie> Jordan_U: running Quake 1
[03:42] <mrpink57_> Krepta: /var
[03:42] <jschall> `mOOse`: it doesn't hang for me. in fact, nothing does. ever.
[03:42] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to fix a deleted kernel image?
[03:42] <Krepta> K0rn, can't, it's mom's laptop
[03:42] <tp43> I like debian cause they are very stable and fast, but I wanna install the best software free, open or proprietary.  I respect their software, and will be installing their bsd version as soon as it out and eventually hurd if ever.
[03:42] <Krepta> brb, looking up logs
[03:42] <jschall> Krepta: http://oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch09_01.html
[03:43] <voss749> tp43, mint is ubuntu with all the codecs pre installed among other things and its green...and the bar is on the bottom :)
[03:43] <tp43> mrpink57, I dunno, I can't imagine what else they could offer, I already have everything
[03:43] <jschall> Krepta: i think sharing printers with windows uses samba, right?
[03:43] <tp43> voss749, lol. what codecs
[03:43] <voss749> tp43 dvd playing
[03:43] <`mOOse`> jschall, synaptic doesn't lag your machine at ALL?
[03:43] <tp43> voss749, I just apt-get installed mplayer, no problem, and I can play dvd's
[03:43] <panfist> mtpink57_ that's only true for program which are multithreaded, and on a single core hyperthreaded pc, io bound
[03:43]  * `mOOse` is skeptical
[03:43] <jschall> `mOOse`: i use kde
[03:43] <BrainDance> hey I have another problem. In LXDE on Lubuntu I started moving some things to my desktop, everything works fine except for firefox, firefox has test there and an area to click on, but no icon. I put it there by dragging it from the lxpanel (where it has an icon) and also tried changing the icon of the shortcut in lxpanel that I drag from, and nothing. No matter what I do no icon, so whats up with that? Any way I can manually force
[03:43] <BrainDance> an icon on it? Or other reason its not showing up?
[03:44] <jschall> `mOOse`: but i'll install synaptic now
[03:44] <ekim1> Krepta, tp43: linux mint is pretty good.  I have it installed and it is alittle more refined with less stuff included with the install but there if you need to install it.  I guess the say it is a "chopped down" version of Ubuntu.
[03:44] <ke1ha_> Jordan_I: I was generalizing, nothing is "from scratch" ... but compared to ext3 and it's cluge, its a fresh solution.
[03:44] <voss749> tp43, im talking about like libdvdcss
[03:44] <`mOOse`> what's kde use - yast?
[03:44] <Jordan_U> JabberWalkie, Try running "padsp quake" ( or whatever the binary is called ).
[03:44] <BrainDance> the properties box for the shortcut gave me no help, and few options at that
[03:44] <`mOOse`> or is that suse?
[03:44] <Joundill> jschall, Krepta yeah, sharing printers linux-windoze uses samba
[03:44] <JabberWalkie> Jordan_U: k, ill try that
[03:44] <tp43> voss749, hmmm, you can just add non-free to your sources and you are same as mint then
[03:44] <BrainDance> tried going into my desktop forlder as root and seeing what I can do, nothing new
[03:44] <BrainDance> so I'm out of ideas
[03:45] <jschall> `mOOse`: yast is for rpm i think
[03:45] <ekim1> Krepta, mrpink57_;  Krepta sorry wrong guy, meant for mrpink
[03:45] <jschall> `mOOse`: kubuntu seems to use kpackagekit
[03:45] <Joundill> `mOOse`: Suse uses yast
[03:45] <BrainDance> Is there a way to build my own shortcut on the lxde desktop that has an icon and points to firefox? Sort of manually recreate it?
[03:45] <jschall> `mOOse`: i tend to use aptitude or apt-get, though.
[03:46] <Joundill> BrainDance: yes there is
[03:46] <manpreet> Hi
[03:46] <voss749> tp43, also wifi works out of the box.
[03:46] <manpreet> I want to uninstall ubuntu and install windows
[03:46] <manpreet> please help
[03:46] <Joundill> BrainDance: first open terminal
[03:46] <voss749> Its just minty :)
[03:46] <BrainDance> Joundill, how do I go about doing that? I assumed it'd be a right click option but for "Create new" all I have are "text document" or "folder"
[03:46] <Paradox> anyone here the maintainer of the ChannelManager plugin?
[03:46] <BrainDance> alright, terminals up
[03:46] <Paradox> (supybot)
[03:47] <jschall> `mOOse`: i'll test removing and reinstalling openoffice in synaptic. it's reasonably large. unless there's a better test you have for me?
[03:47] <Joundill> Braindance: type in firefox
[03:47] <tp43> voss749, yeah, in debian I had to install wifi separately, but in Ubuntu "it installed out of the box"
[03:47] <johnn> I am trying to get my svideo out working with karmic and a radeon x1400
[03:47] <Joundill> BrainDance: see if that opens it
[03:47] <BrainDance> alright it opened it
[03:47] <BrainDance> opened firefox that is
[03:47] <Joundill> Ok, that's all good then
[03:47] <Joundill> close that
[03:47] <Joundill> 1 minute, googling
[03:47] <Paradox> well, if they see this, please msg me
[03:47] <Paradox> thank you
[03:47] <manpreet> Please help in uninstalling Ubuntu
[03:47] <johnn> when i install fglrx i lose my windows manager
[03:47] <BrainDance> Betas of operating systems are fun, but not at 11 at night :P
[03:47] <tp43> well, see guys, nice chatting with yas, have a good night
[03:48] <`mOOse`> jschall,  no - that would be good ;-)
[03:48] <voss749> tp43, I just found it funny how ubuntu 9.10 NBR broke the wifi on my dell mini 9 until I manually downloaded a fix
[03:48] <toastedmilk> Does anyone know how to fix a deleted kernel image?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> manpreet, Did you install as a dual boot, or did you install over windows?
[03:49] <manpreet> I installed ubuntu over windows 7
[03:49] <jschall> `mOOse`: so far on the removal, i searched for it and selected it for removal completely smoothly. no lag on synaptic's interface or any other part of the system.
[03:49] <tp43> voss749, oh, it was ok for me.  I guess lots of linux people buy ibm laptops so its a bit easier.
[03:49] <manpreet> I wanted to switch over to windows XP
[03:49] <voss749> 9.10 was rushed
[03:49] <mrpink57_> manpreet: a kittie just died because you said that
[03:49] <Krepta> I'm in /var/log have no idea what to look for.  Cups logs, Samba logs, what?
[03:50] <johnn> how do I get a dual-monitor going with an x1400? fglrx isn't working for me
[03:50] <jschall> `mOOse`: finished the removal, reloading the database took about 3-5 seconds
[03:50] <`mOOse`> congratulations jschall  :-)
[03:50] <Krepta> I really hope I won't have to replace ubuntu with a pirated XP, I really want this to work.
[03:50] <voss749> tp43, My compaq laptop had an atheros wifi so it was ok.
[03:50] <jschall> `mOOse`: and now i'm installing it again! seems to be smooth to me. maybe you need to upgrade your hardware.
[03:50] <tp43> voss749, cool
[03:51] <voss749> I just wind up these days sticking atheros chipsets in everything...works for me
[03:51] <songer> kreator,  what's yor problem?
[03:51] <Jordan_U> manpreet, Then since you will have to install windows anyway, just tell it to use the entire drive and it will install over Ubuntu
[03:51] <tp43> voss749, talk to you later if you around, I am gonna watch an indian movie now
[03:51] <Arsin> Can someone help me out with F@H
[03:51] <voss749> tp43, which one???
[03:51] <Jordan_U> manpreet, You may want to back up your documents somewhere of course
[03:51] <tp43> voss749, stiker
[03:51] <manpreet> I rebooted my computer and tried to boot from CD it is not using that option
[03:52] <manpreet> Yeah Jordan, I have backed up all the documents
[03:52] <Krepta> setup BIOS
[03:52] <jschall> tp43: american indian movie or a movie from india?
[03:52] <mushy1> hey i installed ubuntu9 on my computer and i forgot everything linux, everything worked right off the bat even whireless but the sound doesnt work
[03:52] <voss749> you mean striker?
[03:52] <voss749> bollywood
[03:52] <mushy1> what do i do to fix sound
[03:52] <tp43> voss749, you heard of it.  Hey I love that song from de danna dan, and also that song from that bipashu movie about time travel.  I am from Canada born in Pakistan
[03:52] <mushy1> its an onboard soundcard and i know the sound worked on olderversions of ubuntu and freebsd
[03:52] <gunawan> any body,i need help
[03:52] <jschall> mushy1: check that everything is turned up in the sound settings.
[03:53] <jschall> mushy1: to start with.
[03:53] <Krepta> I also have sound issues, but that's on the laptop at home, I realy need to figure out why windows vista won't print anymore to ubuntu 9.10
[03:53] <tp43> karam board movie
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> mushy1, this "might" help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[03:53] <`mOOse`> join the elite!
[03:53] <`mOOse`> jschall, all donations accepted
[03:53] <voss749> tp43, im like the only american anglo bollywood fan in my town
[03:53] <tp43> voss749, I like lots of foreign movies
[03:53] <Krepta> Yay, ubuntu is here!
[03:53] <johnn> anyone have experience with the mobility x1400? I'm trying to use my svideo out.
[03:54] <Krepta> Ah, hello teffers
[03:54] <voss749> Its me and like 50 indian peeps at the local bollywood films
[03:54] <manpreet> I have around 450 GB space left, can I use dual boot option as WINDOWS XP
[03:54] <tp43> voss749, what city
[03:54] <voss749> boca raton
[03:54] <manpreet> I have install Ubuntu first
[03:54] <ardchoille> !ot | voss749 tp43
[03:54] <tp43> my bad
[03:54] <mushy1> by default what color should the headphones or speakers go into
[03:54] <tp43> c ya laters dudes
[03:54] <Krepta> windows hates sharing with other OSes, unless you trick it with boot magic
[03:55] <mushy1> green or orange
[03:55] <voss749> c ya later
[03:55] <devrethman> mushy1: usually green
[03:55] <jschall> manpreet: in order to do that you have to resize your ubuntu partition first, install windows, then go back with an ubuntu livecd and reinstall grub.
[03:55] <teffers> hey guys i am having some issues with broadcom drivers
[03:55] <panfist> ok for the record disabling hyperthreading increased my performance in synaptic majorly...i would estimate around 90% if not more
[03:55] <devrethman> mushy1: although alsa has been known to mix them up.
[03:55] <johnn> anyone have experience with the mobility x1400? I'm trying to use my svideo out.
[03:56] <teffers> anyone delt with them before i heard ther nutoriously buggy
[03:56] <devrethman> teffers: Yeah, but I did not win the battle.
[03:56] <manpreet> Jshall, that's what I am trying to do, however it is not recognizing the windows CD after reboot.
[03:56] <devrethman> so I cannot help you.
[03:56] <mushy1> hrmm weird it works
[03:56] <jschall> panfist: disabling or enabling?
[03:56] <mushy1> i guess one of the updates fixed it
[03:56] <panfist> disabling
[03:56] <mushy1> <3 how easy linux has gotten
[03:56] <`mOOse`> you mean you DOWNGRADED your CPU performance and it's working BETTER panfist ?
[03:56] <`mOOse`> *remarkable!*
[03:56] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[03:57] <jschall> manpreet: are you certain its set to boot from cd first?
[03:57] <devrethman> Not all programs that can multithread do it gracefully.
[03:57] <teffers> i got whayt apears to think its an eth card but has all wireless attributes which is super anoying
[03:57] <johnn> I am trying to get my svideo out working with karmic and a radeon x1400
[03:57] <panfist> well moose you must admit there are situations where multithreaded is useful even on a single core
[03:57] <manpreet> Jshall : Yeah, I selected from BIOS
[03:57] <panfist> i find that no multithreading is better most of the time even on a shitty pentium 4
[03:57] <`mOOse`> yes, and I'm being sarcastic pan ;-)
[03:57] <panfist> i know and im just saying that you can't universally deride hyperthreading
[03:58] <mushy1> random question probably wrong place but has wine gotten dx9 and older games nearly perfect?
[03:58] <ZykoticK9> ioquake3 giving error that "Point Release files are missing.  Please re-install the 1.32 point release" but Points is installed & working but no sound (expected longstanding issue)
[03:58] <jschall> mushy1: wrong place. go to #winehq
[03:58] <jschall> mushy1: it works ok for a lot of games.
[03:58] <hapik> hello
[03:59] <jschall> mushy1: for example, eve online is dx9 and it works fine. i wouldn't try it, it is unbelievably boring.
[03:59] <isidro1> hi, a program crash in x mode, then i get into console mode to get the logon x mode, is this posible???
[03:59] <meowbuntu> hi how can i check what processes are running on my cumputer from terminal
[03:59] <mushy1> well i bought a lot of cheap games from half priced books
[03:59] <devrethman> mushy1: it has DX9 down pretty well, but there's more to games than DX
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, "ps aux"
[03:59] <seanbrystone> meowbuntu, top
[03:59] <mushy1> i got morrowind which used to look perfect besides the water
[03:59] <hapik> how can I add a starting option for default web-browser?
[04:00] <manpreet> Jschall : I tried to went to the grub tried to use fdisk command, however it is not accepting that
[04:00] <mushy1> im trying to play one now called hammer and sickle
[04:00] <devrethman> hapik: right click on the icon and hit properties
[04:00] <mushy1> which installs i just stopped because sound didnt work
[04:00] <mushy1> but now it seems to
[04:00] <mushy1> QUESTION RELATED: say sound works great, but doesnt work for some reason under wine
[04:00] <devrethman> mushy1: #winehq would know much better than we would.
[04:00] <mushy1> is that a wine problem
[04:00] <jschall> manpreet: the grub recovery console is not linux.
[04:00] <mushy1> is winehq on his server
[04:01] <mushy1> is this the ubuntu server
[04:01] <devrethman> mushy1: it might be a wine problem, but the wine channel would be able to tell you if it is or not
[04:01] <johnn> is there another chat server that might know the answer to my video card question
[04:01] <hapik> devrethman: it will work only with browser started with icon, not with browser being called from different applications
[04:01] <devrethman> mushy1: this is a freenode server, so yeah, wine is here.
[04:01] <devrethman> hapik: Oh... I don't know then.
[04:02] <mushy1> is ub 9.04 or 9.4 or whatever this version a beta or is it full
[04:02] <isidro1> how i can kill processes fron console mode????
[04:02] <acalbaza> how do i change my screen resolution for the command line?
[04:02] <ZykoticK9> isidro1, "kill $PID" or "killall $PROCESSNAME"
[04:03] <devrethman> isidrol: killall <process name> or ps -e followed by kill <PID>
[04:03] <isidro1> thanks
[04:03] <johnn> anyone have experience with the mobility x1400? I'm trying to use my svideo out.
[04:03] <manpreet> jschall : Is there any way to format the hard drive. Like booting to the command line after the system is restarted
[04:04] <nabian> mplayer whit gui is smplayer?
[04:04] <becker_11> I'm setting up #irssi and want to set it to connect automatically at startup but in the text here http://pastebin.com/m23229f9b is the <nick> it wants my nick or to identify the server I'm adding?
[04:04] <nabian> mplayer whit gui is smplayer?
[04:05] <becker_11> nabian: that or someone with interesting hobbies
[04:05] <isidro1> how i can get "logon x" from console mode???
[04:05] <hapik> nabian: it depends, can be gnome mplayer
[04:05] <johnn> whatever
[04:05] <binari0> hello
[04:05] <titan_ark> thegeekyhaxor, hey
[04:06] <mushy1> can someone highlight me in 10 seconds, this is a test
[04:06] <thegeekyhaxor> titan_ark: hey
[04:06] <Krepta> I'm very unfamilier with windows vista, it confuses and frustrates me to no end.  I cannot make it print to a printer it can see on the network share of an ubuntu desktop, and it's driving me crazy.
[04:06] <Krepta> See, there goes another marble rolling across the floor, I've lost at least 7 marbles now.
[04:06] <becker_11> Krepta: it's vista even windoze geeks hate it
[04:07] <Krepta> becker_11, agreed
[04:07] <intok> I can't get video files to erase form the tmp folder after flash crashes, trashing them doesn't actually remove the files as emptying the trash doesn't free up the space that the files are using, is there a way to actually remove these files without restarting?
[04:07] <Krepta> So, maybe the only solution is replace ubuntu with a pirated XP, since I have no money to buy it.
[04:07] <isidro1> how i can get "logon x" from console mode???
[04:08] <binari0> I was looking for in internet about how to put Imagen in the text mode in ubuntu like suse but I did't find it, somebody can help I will be so thankful to who can help with that.
[04:08] <devrethman> Since when does a 4.5GB iso not fit on a DVDR?
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> isidro1, startx
[04:08] <binari0> I sorry by my english
[04:08] <becker_11> Krepta: some times we do things that aren't technically right but it's wise not to announce it to the world first
[04:08] <becker_11> I'm setting up #irssi and want to set it to connect automatically at startup but in the text here http://pastebin.com/m23229f9b is the <nick> it wants my nick or to identify the server I'm adding?
[04:08] <Krepta> Bah, I don't care becker_11, let em fry me.
[04:09] <isidro1> thanks again!!!!
[04:09] <mushy1> can someone highlight me in 10 seconds, this is a test
[04:09] <mushy1> pleasae
[04:09] <isidro1> exit
[04:09] <Krepta> mushy1, what?
[04:09] <`mOOse`> intok, bleachbit
[04:09] <`mOOse`> in sudo mode
[04:09] <mushy1> perfect thanks
[04:09] <Krepta> mushy1, a test of what?  To see if anyone can see you?
[04:09] <`mOOse`> lol
[04:09] <devrethman> probably his IRC client's highlighting
[04:09] <mushy1> no to see if my notifications work
[04:10] <Krepta> mushy1, ok
[04:10] <mushy1> while i am off screen
[04:10] <`mOOse`> flash!
[04:10] <mushy1> it actually pops up a black box in the right corner of my monitors
[04:10] <devrethman> is there a way to mount ISO files?
[04:10] <Krepta> mushy1, do you have some kind of loud sound announcing someone is talking to you?  Like crashing thunder, or a bomb going off?
[04:10] <ZykoticK9> !iso | devrethman
[04:11] <`mOOse`> intok, btw, you should be able to sudo rm -r <filename> in tmp
[04:11] <Krepta> sudo is great
[04:11] <Krepta> I'm never gonna get this printer to print, I so hate windows.  DIE Microsoft!
[04:11] <`mOOse`> yea it'll nuke everything !
[04:11] <binari0> I was looking for in internet about how to put Imagen in the text mode in ubuntu like suse but I did't find it, somebody can help me I will be so thankful to who can help with that.
[04:12] <Krepta> sorry binari0, I have no idea how to do that.
[04:12] <Krepta> just letting you know you are seen, there, binari0
[04:13] <`mOOse`> Krepta, this is gonna really irritate you but I was at my brothers house the other night and he needed the wep key for the wifi lan, which was on my usb flashdrive install of ubuntu - I loaded it on his laptop, it found the WIFI printer, and let me print the txt file with the wep key in it LOL
[04:14] <Krepta> yah, that's really cool... FRAK!  I hate windows for being so horrible to me, and nice to others.
[04:14] <`mOOse`> wirelessly
[04:14] <`mOOse`> I had to be impressed with that myself lol
[04:14] <ZykoticK9> binari0, this "might" help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer good luck
[04:14] <Krepta> lol
[04:14] <`mOOse`> well vista is like ME - get rid of it asap
[04:14] <`mOOse`> beg borrow steal win7
[04:14] <`mOOse`> what a difference
[04:14] <`mOOse`> you will not regret
[04:14] <Krepta> lol
[04:15] <mushy1> is 7 > ubuntu
[04:15] <Tm_T> !ot | `mOOse`
[04:15] <Krepta> I'll try to convince mom to convert over to win 7 on her laptop.
[04:15] <Krepta> That's the computer I'm working with now, trying to make it fraking print
[04:16] <Krepta> oic
[04:17] <isidro1> hi, how i can kill "x" from console mode???
[04:17] <Krepta> sorry about talking about windblowz.
[04:17] <Krepta> Oooo, shut down X, I wanna hear this.
[04:17] <binari0>  thanks ZykoticK9 you the best
[04:17] <acalbaza>  
[04:17] <Tm_T> isidro1: Krepta: "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop"
[04:18] <Krepta> Wow, cool
[04:18] <mawst> init 3
[04:18] <mawst> OR
[04:18] <mawst> killall -9 Xorg
[04:18] <Tm_T> mawst: no
[04:18] <Krepta> killall, ahahaha
[04:18] <Krepta> blam blam, I love linux
[04:18] <isidro1> thanks
[04:19] <semitones> hehe, is any of this on topic?
[04:20] <Krepta> Well, since my printer problem is impossible to solve, because windows is too stupid to work like a proper OS, I'll just leave you guys to your discussions, may many problems be solved. Peace.
[04:20] <`mOOse`> that question is off topic
[04:20] <semitones> `mOOse`, META is offtopic, noooo
[04:21] <`mOOse`> I think that was off topic too but I'm not too sure
[04:21] <`mOOse`> ;-)
[04:23] <charles__> hey folks, when using the chown command, what owner would i enter to just set the thing as readable by everyone?
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> charles__, the owner doesn't matter so much as "chmod ugo+rw FILE" sorta thing...
[04:24] <alankila> charles__: no such owner exists.
[04:24] <semitones> charles__, do you have to use CLI? you can also do the same thing in nautillus with a gui
[04:24] <unop> charles__, errm, you wouldn't use the chown command to accomplish that - you'd use the chmod command
[04:25] <Dravekx> I have a problem.. I woke up today and tried logging into my forum and I cant get into anything
[04:25] <Dravekx> http://dravekx.dyndns.org/forum
[04:25] <Dravekx> nothing is working. I tried changing ownership and permissions, but nothing is working... it's like I dont have permission to do anything.
[04:26] <Dravekx> :(
[04:26] <charles__> well, here's the thing... i was here a bit earlier asking about a problem i was having accessing a drive. i went in to check a few things and realized that when i had formatted the drive, i selected "take ownership of drive", so while i can access the drive just fine form this install, it is unaccessable from a liveCD, which makes me worry that if i reformat and reinstall ubuntu, i'll lose access to the drive in question.
[04:27] <charles__> instead of losing all of the drive's contents, i'd like some what to just... set the drive free, as it were
[04:27] <Joundill> is anybody here familiar with the bttv driver?
[04:27] <charles__> it's not like there are other folks using this computer, so it being tagged to anyone in particular is needless
[04:27] <toastedmilk> My card should be supported by the radeon driver and I can't get direct rendering to work.  Any pointers?
[04:28] <Dravekx> I have a problem.. I woke up today and tried logging into my forum and I cant get into anything.. http://www.dravekx.com
[04:28] <Dravekx> FK...
[04:29] <semitones> charles__, I think you just have to mount it as read/write in the live cd, but I could be wrong
[04:29] <royceremer> Joundill: is that for a tuner card?
[04:29] <Joundill> royceremer: that's the one :D
[04:29] <royceremer> Joundill: what kind of card are you using, and what version ubuntu?
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> Dravekx, it is phpbb you're using right?  you might want to ask in #phpbb if it is.  good luck man.
[04:30] <Joundill> royceremer: I'm trying to get a bt878p+ (rev 4c) card going on 9.04 Jaunty
[04:30] <Dravekx> ZykoticK9, its not phpbb.. its the server. i cant get into phpmyadmin or anything
[04:30] <Dravekx> if it was phpbb related, i would be there, but its not.
[04:30] <Dravekx> its ubuntu
[04:30] <jheiselman> I am having problems getting my trackpad recognized on my Acer Aspire One 532h netbook.  It works, but I can't adjust any properties (i.e. tap-to-click).  I think it isn't recognizing it as a touchpad.  The TouchPad Control Preference says that SHMConfig isn't enabled, but setting the fdi file doesn't appear to work.
[04:31] <Dravekx> I think.
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> Dravekx, ? i have no idea man ?  sorry - best of luck
[04:31] <charles__> semitones: so setting ownership of a drive means nothing then?
[04:31] <Dravekx> I think its a permissions issue
[04:31] <toastedmilk> My card should be supported by the radeon driver and I can't get direct rendering to work.  Any pointers?
[04:31] <Dravekx> I cant even get into phpmyadmin
[04:32] <Dravekx> its like, all the submit buttons stopped working on the server.
[04:32] <royceremer> Joundill: good news, I'm fairly certain we can get it working on your rig, it's on a list of supported cards for a version of this driver (found Prolink Pixelview PV-BT878P+ (Rev.4C,8E)
[04:32] <royceremer> Joundill: that was here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Bttv
[04:32] <Joundill> royceremer: sweet, what should I do?
[04:32] <Dravekx> even if I install a new program, the submit buttons do not work in ubuntu, but they work on my laptop
[04:32] <Joundill> royceremer: yeah, I've seen that, card 70, right?
[04:33] <semitones> charles__, I'll tell you now that I"m not that experienced in linux, but I think you can override ownership temporarily, without having to change it.
[04:33] <royceremer> Joundill: you  might find this useful: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/BTTV.html
[04:33] <alala> /server irc.plasa.com
[04:34] <huyle> does anyone know about socket?
[04:34] <royceremer> Joundill: some very detailed instructions, especially for Linux (although there's no simple package download it seems)
[04:34] <charles__> semitones: hmmm, well, thanks for your help. it looks like i'm going to have to reformat or something... or maybe read up more on chown, see if i can find an "anyone" tag.
[04:34] <royceremer> Joundill: assuming it's plugged in already, I'd just skip to this, run it step by step: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/BTTV.html#HW
[04:35] <Joundill> royceremer: It's apparently part of the kernel now
[04:35] <royceremer> Joundill: drivers for this card? under what? do you have a link where you read that?
[04:35] <semitones> charles__, good luck!
[04:35] <ke1ha_> charles_ what is it your trying to do ?
[04:35] <voss749> .join ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <Joundill> royceremer: the link you just gave me
[04:36] <obscurant1st>  my ubuntu is not mounting my mp3 player, when i do lsusb, this is what it shows http://paste.linuxassist.net/215152
[04:36] <charles__> semitones: i'll need it. :)
[04:36] <obscurant1st> and this is what it wshows for dmseg http://paste.linuxassist.net/215153
[04:36] <royceremer> Joundill: hmm, should pay more attention to what I give out I guess...
[04:36] <Dravekx> what would stop ubuntu server from responding to any logins??? I can get in via SSH and SFTP, but nothing via web is working
[04:37] <Dravekx> wtf
[04:37] <albertolempira> hey guys i'm trying to have sound on multiples apps at the same time with alsa on kubuntu karmic, can anybody help me with this? thanks in advance
[04:37] <obscurant1st> somebody?
[04:38] <ChogyDan> albertolempira: isnt that what pulse is for?
[04:38] <ke1ha_> Dravekv: DNC or nameservers would cause those symptoms.
[04:38] <ke1ha_> oops DNS, not DNC ...
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, user/pass???
[04:39] <semitones> ZykoticK9, hunter2
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, sorry - read it - got it, my bad
[04:39] <obscurant1st> ZykoticK9: i dont want the data, i just want to mount it.. dtat loss is not a problem..
[04:39] <obscurant1st> :|
[04:40] <Dravekx> it all started when I updated GRUB
[04:40] <Dravekx> what would that hafta do with web logins?
[04:40] <Dravekx> :(
[04:40] <pyr0path> can someone help me? ive been trying to use the make command all day long and im getting error messages. heres a pastebin of whats happening http://pastebin.com/m1b45edb0
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, that dmesg doesn't look too good... not sure what to recommend man, best of luck
[04:41] <albertolempira> ChogyDan: I had to remove pulse beacuse i had no sound out of my speakers...
[04:41] <obscurant1st> ZykoticK9: can i do just the checkdsk on that by anymenas?
[04:41] <obscurant1st> anymeans*
[04:42] <ke1ha_> If your DNS can resolve the IP / or web-name, then yes, if you can get in with the IP, then I'd look at local DNS caches, then to hostname servers on the site your trying to resolve.
[04:42] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, the kernel is basically kicking the device off with the "scsi 3:0:0:0: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery" so i don't think you can do much...
[04:43] <ke1ha_> Is the site your trying to SSH to a registered domain ?
[04:43] <obscurant1st> not ready after error recovery, ZykoticK9, what does this mean?
[04:43] <toastedmilk> Alright how about this.  My grub contains image files, but won't load them at boot.  How can I get grub to recognize the files? P.S. they are on a different partition
[04:43] <obscurant1st> what kind of error recovery is it doing?
[04:43] <frankdcoder> a good html graphic editor?
[04:44] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, not "totally" sure - but it seems like a USB / Device issue -- what kind of MP3 player is it - saw something about Philips but what model #?
[04:45] <obscurant1st> philips go gear 2 gb
[04:46] <toastedmilk> My card should be supported by the radeon driver and I can't get direct rendering to work.  Any pointers?
[04:46] <obscurant1st> #sa3025/02
[04:48] <quietone> pyr0path: have your tried the suggestion on line 9 and 16  - 'make SHELL=/bin/bash'.
[04:48] <semitones> toastedmilk, did you try enabling restricted drivers in hardware manager?
[04:49] <toastedmilk> semitones: im using the open source driver
[04:49] <semitones> toastedmilk, afaik, the open source driver doesn't have direct acceleration -- at least not for nvidia
[04:50] <toastedmilk> semitones: I have an ati card
[04:51] <Curly_Q> Hello folks. I just downloaded Ubuntu from the so-called web site. There is a splash screen that seems to imply that there is a clause and price associated with it. What is the story with that?
[04:51] <bikcmp> Hello all, what is the command for launching the mysql configuration wizard?
[04:51] <semitones> toastedmilk, the rule of thumb with graphics cards, is the closed source driver always gives you more hardware acceleration, unless it's broken
[04:51] <oniltonmaciel> I recently bought a toshiba a505 s-6005. it has a core i3 processor, and integrated intel graphics media accelerator 4500hd, 4gb ddr3 ram. When I try to install ubuntu from live cd it shows me a black screen, like it was running but not showing video
[04:52] <semitones> toastedmilk, I'm 90% sure the open source one doesn't give you direct rendering
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, i'm affraid my googling didn't bring up hardly anything about your model???  I certainly see other people with "Philips Go Gear"s working, but different model numbers.  A search for the "Device offlined..." did bring me to this post - might be worth a try (the waiting, trying different ports, turning on while plugged in stuff) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=605461
[04:52] <Curly_Q> Is Ubuntu free or NO?
[04:52] <svenbuntu> oniltonmaciel: mine did that with my radeon 9250 pci card
[04:52] <BiosElement> Curly_Q: Yes, it's free.
[04:52] <toastedmilk> semitones: trust me, after checking the ubuntu documentation and the dri documentation, it does support direct rendering
[04:52] <toastedmilk> semitones: and the fglrx driver doesn't work on my rig
[04:53] <semitones> toastedmilk, Oh, ok :) sorry I don't know then
[04:53] <Curly_Q> Thanks BiosElements.
[04:53] <oniltonmaciel> I tried ubuntu 9.10 32 and 64 bits , and ubuntu 9.04 32bits. Any idas? What it is?
[04:53] <obscurant1st> ZykoticK9, thx, i will hv a look at it..
[04:53] <obscurant1st> :D
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> obscurant1st, good luck man - i'm off
[04:53] <becker_11> where is the desktop wallpaper hiding in ubuntu??
[04:53] <bikcmp> Hello all, what is the command for launching the mysql configuration wizard?
[04:53] <Curly_Q> I did burn the CD and will install it now.
[04:53] <obscurant1st> ok, thx for the help.. :D
[04:53] <obscurant1st> bye
[04:53] <kitty_> 有国人没？
[04:54] <oniltonmaciel> I searched a lot but couldn't find anything concrete about this issue I got when installing ubuntu from live cd
[04:54] <ke1ha_> bikcmp: phpmyadmin is an easy to use admin app.
[04:54] <`mOOse`> oniltonmaciel, have you tried to right-click on the desktop and get the settings menu up?
[04:55] <`mOOse`> if you get that far, the right-most tab will allow you to turn off the aero level graphic candy and you might get your desktop back
[04:55] <oniltonmaciel> moose, I don't see anything, not even the usplash
[04:55] <becker_11> what is the location of the desktop wallpaper in ubuntu please?
[04:55] <Curly_Q> Has anyone here played around with IPV6 with Ubuntu?
[04:56] <oniltonmaciel> actually I think that in the exact moment the usplash enter, I don't see anything any more
[04:56] <`mOOse`> no window borders - nothing?
[04:56] <travalas> I'm looking for an alternative to LDAP.  I want to sync users accross a series of computers, but I don't have a dependable network.
[04:56] <oniltonmaciel> I don't know if it's a issue with my video card: intel GMA 4500 HD
[04:57] <toastedmilk> My card should be supported by the radeon driver and I can't get direct rendering to work.  Any pointers?
[04:57] <tomoyuki28jp> How can I specify host's port in /etc/hosts file? This doesn't work '127.0.1.1:3000 domain'
[04:57] <j-A_son> Hello; I'm having trouble networking my Dell Dimension 8250; I'm fairly sure it's that I don't have the correct driver, but I'm not really sure. last year I was using this machine with Ubuntu, and all networking worked great. Then I had to reinstall Ubuntu over the entire thing to prepare it to give to a scouting group. When I reinstalled, it seems like the ethernet was not found. The ethernet interface was not detected no matter what I
[04:57] <j-A_son> tried. I also tried using a D-link wireless N (DWA-160) usb stick (which had also worked before) and it was able to detect my network name, but never able to connect. I tried everything I could find online and in the forums to no avail. I tried a live CD of Knoppix (just to see if it could detect the hardware) and that showed the same results. I then found the Debian device driver check & report for Dell/Dimension 8250, and it motivated
[04:57] <j-A_son> just try installing Debian, largly in the hopes that it would contain the correct driver(s) to make it work, but upon installation the Ethernet card was not detected. When I selected e100, the correct one according to the report, it stutters and goes back asking for another driver. After install, I proceeded to try a bunch of other stuff, none of which worked. I like Ubuntu better, so now I'm back to 9.10. Can anyone offer any ideas on 
[04:57] <j-A_son> get this thing connected to the outside world? Thanks in advance.
[04:57] <FloodBot4> j-A_son: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:58] <vegombrei> what is a ext2 partition ... how is it different from the primary ext3 partition??
[04:59] <DaemonFC> ext2 is basically ext3 without a journal, few other minor things. question is how did you end up with one? :)
[04:59] <vegombrei> im trying to format a new drive i added to my system and ubuntu recommenda ext2 .. is this in any way faster or more efficient than a fat 32?
[04:59] <ke1ha_> vegombreiL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[04:59] <LavaEagle> So then what is a journal exactly?
[05:00] <DaemonFC> vegombrei, You mean hard disk or a flash memory drive?
[05:00] <LavaEagle> nvm googleing
[05:00] <xfact> Currently Ubuntu recommends ext4, right?
[05:00] <Curly_Q> i-A son it might be that you need to get rid of the Windows MBR. Start anew and see if it will work.
[05:00] <DaemonFC> LavaEagle, Journaling helps the system make sure the filesystem is consistent
[05:01] <ke1ha_> What is Journaling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journaling_file_system
[05:01] <DaemonFC> ext2 fsck might take hours after an unplanned shutdown (power loss, etc.)
[05:01] <DaemonFC> xfact, It recommends Ext4, I still use XFS
[05:01] <LavaEagle> @k1ha ty for both
[05:01] <xfact> daemonFC: ohh
[05:01] <DaemonFC> Ext4 is having some data loss issues that have been fixed in XFS for years
[05:02] <DaemonFC> nobody wants to admit that, but it's true
[05:02] <j-A_son> Curly_Q: how do you recommend I do this?
[05:02] <Curly_Q> i-A son, try before installing the software this:   fdisk/mbr in the DOS mode if you are using Windows as a starter.
[05:02] <j-A_son> my full system is ubuntu I think...
[05:02] <vegombrei> DaemonFC: hard drive ... i have 3 x 1 TB hdds ... i installed ubuntu on hdd0 with ext3 . then when i added the other drives ubuntu recommmended i format them to ext2 ... i however think if i make it fat32 in case of system failure i can still remove the drive plug it into any other machine to retreive my data ... however i wanna know if i can do the same with ext2 .. also do you recommend it DaemonFC?
[05:02] <DaemonFC> XFS also doesn't reserve 10% of the volume like Ext2/3/4 do, because XFS has a defragmentation utility for if you ever do fill it up to the point it is fragged
[05:02] <j-A_son> is that a terminal thing too?
[05:03] <Curly_Q> It doesn't matter what you are using, it matters what you did.
[05:03] <DaemonFC> you use Ext* file systems, you lose 10% of your volume, you can override that but then you face massive fragmentation you can
[05:03] <DaemonFC> *can't fix
[05:03] <interim> hi
[05:04] <LtHummus> How can I prevent Ubuntu's update manager from popping up?  I only want to update packages when I explicitly tell Ubuntu.
[05:04] <Curly_Q> Go back to square ONE and recover your tracks.
[05:04] <emghazal> How do I remove older kernels from grub? and is it safe?
[05:04] <j-A_son> ok, so how do I do that? sorry. Thanks for your willingness to help
[05:04] <Bsims> Having HD issues... getting the following error messages: ata1: hard resetting link, sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code, and lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 however when it does it sets /dev/sdb to read only
[05:04] <DaemonFC> vegombrei, If you haven't put anything on them yet, just reformat them as Ext4 or XFS or whatever you wanted
[05:04] <semitones> LtHummus, I think you can stop it from starting on login
[05:04] <vegombrei> DaemonFC: so should i reformat the drive to fat32 to be on the safe side?
[05:04] <ke1ha_> but, Ext FS is better for handling lots of files, where XFS is far better a large file storage.
[05:04] <LtHummus> semitones: how do I do that?
[05:04] <Bsims> smartmon says its clean, and I am running the long test now
[05:04] <DaemonFC> vegombrei, FAT32 shouldn't be used if you can possibly avoid it
[05:05] <DaemonFC> major limitations in FAT32 make it suitable only for devices that only understand FAT32
[05:05] <Bsims> smartmon says its clean, and I am running the long test now... anyone else see this after the last round of upgrades
[05:05] <DaemonFC> it's also a Microsoft thing, patents, fun stuff
[05:05] <semitones> LtHummus, look under "sessions" I think, in preferences. I'm not in Gnome right now, so I'm not sure
[05:05] <LtHummus> semitones: i'll check it out, thanks
[05:05] <jadams> I just got a new ipod touch.  I followed what I thought were the corret tutorials, and installed ifuse and gtkpod.  The touch doesn't have the correct dir structure, and gtkpod says it can't create it.  Furthermore, though I've mounted it at /media/ipod with ifuse, it has no dir structure at all (not even . and ..)
[05:05] <ke1ha_> if your storing ten's of thousands of files and types, Ext is probably a better bet, if your storage is for say ISO's or DVD's large volume files, XFS is the right choice.
[05:05] <semitones> LtHummus, no problem :)
[05:05] <vegombrei> DaemonFC: its a new drive with no data on it yet ... im asking you to recommend a partition type that is optimal for my system ..
[05:06] <Curly_Q> Always remember this: "Never install any operating system without resetting the MBR  <---  Master Boot Record first. That is so very important.
[05:06] <DaemonFC> vegombrei, XFS is what I use on drives that size
[05:06] <LtHummus> semitones: just putting the final touches on my Ubuntu powered HTPC :)
[05:06] <j-A_son> how do I do this?
[05:06] <DaemonFC> make sure you get the xfsdump package so you have the maintenance utilities
[05:06] <vegombrei> DaemonFC: so be it then ... brb .. need to tell gparted to make that drive xfs
[05:06] <semitones> LtHummus, ah, I see, that sounds fun :)
[05:07] <ke1ha_> Boot = EXT2, /root and home dir's ext3/4 or riserrfs, or if your storing bog files XFS
[05:07] <DaemonFC> XFS is hellaciously fast and has better management tools than e2fsprogs (ext filesystem tools package)
[05:07] <ke1ha_> opps big files XFS
[05:07] <LtHummus> semitones: yeah it was...took the weekend but I basically have everything worked out except for one or two issues (this being one of them)....gotta love the Ubuntu community
[05:07] <emghazal> How do I remove older kernels from grub? and is it safe?
[05:08] <DaemonFC> if you start throwing around files over 1GB around, XFS murders even Ext4
[05:08] <sloopy> emghazal, use apt or synaptic
[05:08] <Curly_Q> Hey guys, another tech tip, your BIOS may not support the new Terrabyte drives SATA or IDE.
[05:08] <semitones> :D I'm glad!
[05:08] <vegombrei> DaemonFC: gparted doesnt give me an option to partition it in xfs
[05:08] <LavaEagle> @daemon what os do you use that has XFS or did you tell Ubuntu to install with it?
[05:08] <DaemonFC> vegombrei, It should..... hmmmm
[05:08] <j-A_son> Curly_Q: how do you suggest I reset the MBR?
[05:09] <ke1ha_> Use the Package Manager, but make sure you know what Kernel your using now, and it's always a good thing to keep a known working older kernel.
[05:09] <DaemonFC> LavaEagle, Mandriva has supported XFS very well for years, even as /boot, Ubuntu was using the old buggy crappy GRUB until 9.04
[05:09] <Curly_Q> i-A Son, start anew. Go into the CMOS setup and start from scratch and do what you did to get the desired results you had before you had problems.
[05:09] <DaemonFC> GRUB 2 now understands XFS where original GRUB didn't
[05:10] <snayth> Hi - Can someone tell me the main difference between Opebox and Xubuntu ?
[05:10] <LavaEagle> So your talking about karmic?
[05:10] <Bsims> Having HD issues... getting the following error messages: ata1: hard resetting link, sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code, and lost page write due to I/O error on sda1 however when it does it sets /dev/sdb to read only smartmon says its clean, and I am running the long test now... anyone else see this after the last round of upgrades
[05:10] <snayth> *Openbox
[05:10] <DaemonFC> LasBuntu, Jaunty was the first release that supported XFS on /boot, so if you want, all you need is a SWAP partition and one XFS partition mounted on /
[05:10] <DaemonFC> and Ubuntu will work like that :)
[05:10] <rww> snayth: Xubuntu uses xfce. xfce and openbox are different window managers...
[05:11] <LavaEagle> Oh cool!
[05:11] <ke1ha_> isn't XFS also better suited to 64-Bit OS ?
[05:11] <DaemonFC> I've edited my fstab to speed XFS up even more, I would not suggest hand-editing fstab unless you know what you are doing
[05:11] <Curly_Q> You see, that most people come here in this forum and complain but don't realize that they may be using a computer that has an outdated BIOS or older BIOS. That is why so many questions are asked here.
[05:12] <DaemonFC> ke1ha_, XFS will work on 32-bit or 64-bit OS's, the only difference is that your max partition size is 8 Exabytes on a 32-bit Linux, and 16 Exabytes on 64-bit Linux
[05:12] <acclaimtech> YAR!
[05:12] <DaemonFC> inode64 mount option also makes it unusable on a 32-bit OS forever
[05:12] <DaemonFC> so don't use that!
[05:13] <DaemonFC> Ext4 max partition is "only" 1 Exabyte *grin*
[05:13] <ke1ha_> I've just not used it allot. We used XFS on some of out work clusters, but not anything at home.
[05:13] <annecoulter> hello
[05:13] <acclaimtech> hello
[05:14] <j5098> i am trying to restore grub on my laptop after a windows installationg.  all the guides i've seen say to do 'find /boot/grub/stage1' as the first step, but i get "file not found"
[05:14] <DaemonFC> ke1ha_, You probably used CXFS, a version of XFS tailored to clusering
[05:14] <DaemonFC> XFS is still heavily worked on all around and will be for years
[05:14] <acclaimtech> anyone using ESX server in here?
[05:14] <DaemonFC> so I don't think support for it will die this decade
[05:14] <j-A_son> ok, I'm not really sure what to do... sorry. can I update it somehow?
[05:14] <Curly_Q> Ke1ha are you working with SCISI drives?
[05:15] <ke1ha_> I may out one on a VM install, just to see if there's any real improvement. Clearly though, if your not accessing the file system on a high frequency, we probably won't "notice" a massive improvement.
[05:15] <semitones> snayth, Lubuntu uses openbox. It's more lightweight than xfce or gnome
[05:15] <DaemonFC> ke1ha_, Another nice thing about XFS is the minimal CPU use
[05:15] <Ascavasaion> Morning.  I am trying to get GPRS connectivity via bluetooth so that my laptop can go online using my mobile phone.  I have followed the tutorial at http://www.spiration.co.uk/post/1307/Ubuntu%20Linux%20-%20Bluetooth%20and%20GPRS%20dialup%20connection and the one at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothDialup and when I try to connect using "pon eitherdialupconffilename" I get an error that there is no /dev/rfcomm0".  I checked
[05:16] <Ascavasaion>  in /dev and there is no device with that name.  Has the device name changed from earlier versions of Ubuntu to 9.04?
[05:16] <acclaimtech> Can you store vm's on a XFS?
[05:16] <FloodBot4> Ascavasaion: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:16] <DaemonFC> so it's not any one thing where XFS has a huge advantage over Ext4, it's a lot of little things that come together
[05:16] <DaemonFC> acclaimtech, virtual Machine images? Yeah
[05:16] <DaemonFC> why not ? :)
[05:16] <acclaimtech> not images
[05:16] <acclaimtech> running vms
[05:16] <ke1ha_> At work, the arrays are all RAW write data sub-systems, then for the OS, and program storage, yes, it's SCSI, but 95% of all the nodes are PXE's so only data is stored on drives, not apps.
[05:17] <emghazal> What about btrfs? I think I read it was better than ext4, but not ready yet. Will it be better than XFS?
[05:17] <Ascavasaion> hehehe
[05:17]  * Ascavasaion kicks FloodBot1 in the nads.
[05:17] <DaemonFC> haven't tried that, acclaimtech
[05:17] <Curly_Q> Interesting.
[05:17] <acclaimtech> werid
[05:17] <acclaimtech> weird*
[05:18] <DaemonFC> emghazal, Yeah, Btrfs has more features planned, I've kicked it around once though and it was pretty slow, but that's just after it got merged in Linux 2.6.29
[05:18] <DaemonFC> the best thing about it is that it will convert existing Ext3/4 partitions to Btrfs eventually
[05:18] <DaemonFC> Ext4 is really just kind of a placeholder
[05:19] <Curly_Q> I had the worst problem with INODE crashes years ago. it was all SCSI related and the source of the problem was a mismatched CPU Dual SCSI motherboard setup.
[05:19] <acclaimtech> How long should it take to copy 100Gb from one sata drive to another?
[05:19] <Roasted> whats the current scoop with BTRFS? Is it soon coming?
[05:19] <ke1ha_> It really comes down to what your using the box for. If you need fast read / writes, then you want the fastest FS you can get, but if your I/O limited to begin with, the FS probably wont have that large of impact.
[05:19] <Ascavasaion> I am amazed that I am the only person in here who has ever wanted to connect to the Internet on his laptop using his mobile phone and bluetooth connectivity.
[05:19] <ahmed_> hi everyone
[05:19] <j5098> i am trying to restore grub on my laptop after a windows installation.  all the guides i've seen say to do 'find /boot/grub/stage1' as the first step, but i get "file not found"
[05:19] <acclaimtech> Kelha what is the fastest FS?
[05:19] <arand> Roasted: Not in quite some time afaik.
[05:20] <Curly_Q> It was a problematic DUAL CPU Motherboard.
[05:20] <iflema> j5098 one option is download super grub disk iso ... its only small that will get you in the once in reinstall grub.... itll be easier
[05:20] <darthanubis> !attitude | Ascavasaion
[05:20] <ke1ha_> Well, I dont know what the "fastest" one is, but XFS is certainly faster than EXT's.
[05:20] <ahmed_> any news about core i3?
[05:21] <j5098> iflema: thanks
[05:21] <fatum> Does anyone know if the Netgear wg311v3 wireless card have known support in 9.10?
[05:21] <darthanubis> ahmed_: check i3 support channel
[05:21] <Curly_Q> It doesn't matter how fast something is, it is how RELI
[05:21] <fatum> has *
[05:21] <Curly_Q> Able it is.
[05:21] <acclaimtech> not true Curly_Q
[05:21] <Curly_Q> Really?
[05:21] <_Paint_> anyone know enough to offer some help with multi-booting?
[05:21] <acclaimtech> otherwise everyone would raid6 everything
[05:21] <DaemonFC> Curly_Q, That's why a lot of people still use Ext3
[05:22] <ke1ha_> JFS and riserfs are really fast as well. All of them are good, aand all have pro's & con's.
[05:22] <acclaimtech> or raid50
[05:22] <darthanubis> !ask | _pedda_
[05:22] <darthanubis> !ask | _Paint_
[05:22] <acclaimtech> !ask
[05:22] <DaemonFC> reiser is not good on multi-core cpus and Hans is in prison, JFS goes crazy if you try to grow a file
[05:22] <acclaimtech> Well I need something that is fast for vmware
[05:23] <Curly_Q> Fast is OK, but, reliability is more important. Not only that, what is most important is dependability.
[05:23] <DaemonFC> Ext 3/4 and XFS are the only file system that should be considered out of what Ubuntu offers
[05:23] <acclaimtech> my esxi box is super slow
[05:23] <ke1ha_> Yeah, he did not  do well on the lawsuit :-)
[05:23] <acclaimtech> it's taking over 5 hours to copy 100Gb
[05:23] <koshari> ke1ha he murdured his wife
[05:23] <semitones> snayth, are you still here?
[05:24] <ahmed_> any news avout core i3? i tried to install Ubuntu on my laptop but the video is not working. any help
[05:24] <Tm_T> !ot | koshari
[05:24]  * om26er doubts if he is in the wrong channel
[05:24] <_Paint_> alrighty so lets make this a little more precise...i already had xp and ubuntu 8.10 dual booting fine so i made a partition and installed windows 7 on it and now GRUB isnt loading on boot...suggestions
[05:24] <acclaimtech> yep...Throw Windows7 out the window
[05:24] <acclaimtech> ;)
[05:24] <_Paint_> lol alternative suggestions :P
[05:24] <Curly_Q> Windows 7 is a toilette.
[05:24] <koshari> Tm_T its more on topic than win 7 topics you clown
[05:24] <ke1ha_> Ok we're way off topic :-) .. If all ya want is a standard highly support FS, Ext3 / 4, If ya want to try the speedy stuff, XFS.
[05:25] <`mOOse`> with LVM ;-)
[05:25] <DaemonFC> Windows 7 will eat your GRUB, just like Vista before it, and XP before it, and Windows 2000, Me, 98........
[05:25] <Tm_T> !fixgrub
[05:25]  * om26er tries btrfs
[05:25]  * semitones thought XFS was optimized for large files
[05:25] <acclaimtech> you'll have to reinstall GRUb
[05:25] <Tm_T> _Paint_: see what ubottu said
[05:25] <DaemonFC> yeah, boot off the Ubuntu CD and run a grub-install
[05:25] <DaemonFC> :D
[05:25] <j-A_son> Curly_Q: what do you suggest I do with my BIOS? I've never needed to change anything before.
[05:26] <DaemonFC> there's guides to that I think
[05:26] <acclaimtech> or get a 2nd boot manager before grub and windows7
[05:26] <DaemonFC> yes, you can also chainload GRUB off the Windows bootloader
[05:26] <acclaimtech> that's really messy though Deamon
[05:26] <DaemonFC> that way Windows is satisfied that its bootloader is there
[05:27] <_Paint_> okay so umm...bring that down to simple english for the ubuntu noob :)...
[05:27]  * acclaimtech hugs Ubuntu
[05:27] <Curly_Q> i-A Son, I am not sure what you need to know. I do know that when I teach my students at the Academy where I teach, I teach them the basics on how to understand the CMOS setup and the BIOS structure and how the computer works.
[05:27] <acclaimtech> Paint: throw your Ubuntu CD in and do a Grub Install
[05:27] <j-A_son> so I guess it would be a good idea to update it?
[05:27] <_Paint_> technically i installed from usb cause its a netbook...but...same diff?
[05:28] <acclaimtech> yeah
[05:28] <acclaimtech> same diff
[05:28] <acclaimtech> Curly what do you teach?
[05:28] <_Paint_> :) thanks...
[05:28] <Curly_Q> I teach A+ and CCNA classes.
[05:28] <acclaimtech> for how old of students?
[05:28] <Curly_Q> Also Engineering as well as Electrical Engineering.
[05:29] <ahmed_> why can't i install Ubuntu on my computer? please help me
[05:29] <mneptok> !offtopic
[05:29] <Tm_T> Curly_Q: acclaimtech: please try to stay in channel topic, feel free to use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[05:29] <ke1ha_> if the BIOS is not causing our probably better off staying wehre your at.you a particular problem, or there isn't any specific feature you "need" in a later version, y
[05:29] <peepsalot> how do i check which graphics drivers X is using?
[05:29] <acclaimtech> come on man... I was just curious we're not flooding the channel
[05:29] <Curly_Q> TM T we are on topic. The class here is asking how to install operating systems and how to work with BIOS setups.
[05:30] <ke1ha_> wow, that came out all wrong. If you dont need to upg BIOS, dont, if you need something n a later version,  upg it.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> ahmed_, It's impossible to help you without more information about what exact problem you are running into.
[05:30] <mneptok> acclaimtech: the channel has rules. please follow them.
[05:30] <DaemonFC> ke1ha_, Don't touch the BIOS unless you're certain it's the problem and you know the update fixes it. Could end up having to take it into a PC repair shop and paying them to reflash it for you because it won't boot up. :D
[05:30] <mneptok> Curly_Q: "what do you teach" is not an Ubunt support question.
[05:30] <mushy1> so whats the latest greatest torrent program for linux
[05:30] <peepsalot> mushy1, try deluge or transmission
[05:31] <om26er> musca, deluge
[05:31] <mushy1> which  ones easiest and gui
[05:31] <acclaimtech> I use Deluge
[05:31] <mushy1> it got gui?
[05:31] <ke1ha_> rr. that's what I was trying to say the first time around, it just came out all jumbled .. lol
[05:31] <acclaimtech> yes and a webgui
[05:31] <annecoulter> liberals!!!! arrrggh
[05:31] <mneptok> mushy1: Transmission is installed by default. start there.
[05:31] <RainbowEyes> transmission is a pretty simple easy to use gui torrenting program
[05:31] <mushy1> oh already installed perfect
[05:31] <om26er> mushy1, deluge is better for speed. transmission's speed fluctuates all the time.
[05:31] <Curly_Q> The fact of the matter is that unless anyone knows and understands how BIOS works and how the computer talks with the OS , then, all of these questions would be moot.
[05:32] <RainbowEyes> well, I've gotten speeds of around 1.5mb/s consistently with Transmission
[05:32] <RainbowEyes> so it doesn't seem that bad to me
[05:32] <RainbowEyes> mB*
[05:32] <mushy1> on ubuntu can i tell if i got a cd rom or a cd burner
[05:32] <acclaimtech> Mb
[05:32] <ahmed_> i just bought Gateway laptop with core i3 processor and it is running windows 7 when i tried to install Ubuntu on it the screen goes balck but i can hear the iso image installing but i can not see anything. please help
[05:32] <mushy1> any easy way
[05:32] <DaemonFC> the only thing that really miffs me is that the ATI Catalyst/FGLRX is not updated regularly. FGLRX is slow buggy crap, but if they fix some bugs, why are those not in the repo?
[05:32] <mushy1> the dirve doesnt days
[05:32] <acclaimtech> ahmed: you should probably try a text install instead of graphic
[05:32] <darthanubis> annecoulter: are you really going to troll politics here?
[05:33] <mneptok> darthanubis: please don't feed the troll.
[05:33] <Duskin> Ahmed: try using the alternate install cd instead
[05:33] <annecoulter> no, i'm just testing webchat.freenode.net
[05:33] <P1umb3r> System:    Host johntop Kernel 2.6.31-14-generic x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Linux Mint 8 Helena - x64 Edition
[05:33] <darthanubis> mneptok: I think I got this thanks
[05:33] <ahmed_> i am new to linux world and i want  to use gnome
[05:33] <om26er> annecoulter, it also support /part
[05:33] <annecoulter> mibbit wont let me on freenode so...
[05:33] <Curly_Q> Anyways, it was nice meeting you folks here. I must teach another class now. Take care folks.
[05:33]  * acclaimtech feeds the troll darthanubis
[05:34] <Duskin> Ahmed: gnome is the default gui for ubuntu.
[05:34] <`mOOse`> you like deluge better than others acclaimtech
[05:34] <darthanubis> ahmed_: not enough information to help you
[05:34] <acclaimtech> yes M00se it's also accepted at every private torrent site as well
[05:34] <DaemonFC> (my opinion) the only thing worse than Deluge on *nix is Deluge on Windows B-)
[05:35] <darthanubis> deluge works
[05:35] <mneptok> darthanubis: please let channel ops deal with trolls, and do not incite them.
[05:35] <`mOOse`> I've used ktorrent transmission qtorrent....I don't like any of them
[05:35] <darthanubis> try downloading a large file collection with transmission
[05:35] <peepsalot> i upgraded my motherboard and now I have really terrible performance.  i think it's related to my graphics drivers but I'm not sure.  can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[05:35] <ahmed_> because i am new to linux i only can work with Gui i am still learning Unix commands
[05:35] <darthanubis> you'll never get it
[05:35] <darthanubis> deluge got it
[05:35] <ahmed_> and that will take a long time
[05:35] <mushy1> anyone know if i download xp on a linux hd if i can install from there
[05:35] <mushy1> or if i have to burn
[05:36] <mushy1> it seems to big for a cdrw
[05:36] <darthanubis> ahmed_: don't experiment on your new box
[05:36] <Duskin> mushy1: you have to burn it
[05:36] <DaemonFC> Why are we talking about burning XP on a CD-R? That doesn't sound......kosher?
[05:36] <darthanubis> mushy1: rephrase
[05:36] <ahmed_> darthanubis . what do you mean?
[05:36] <ton> hi ^^
[05:36] <darthanubis> mneptok: please stop addressing me
[05:37]  * acclaimtech becomes a troll
[05:37] <acclaimtech> YAR!
[05:37] <Duskin> mushy1: the iso for a windows xp install should be around 650mbs, anything larger is extra stuff added to it
[05:37] <koshari> ahmed_ a virtual machine is a good place to experiment
[05:37] <acclaimtech> yes try a VM ahmed
[05:37] <infid> heh
[05:38] <mneptok> darthanubis: please join #ubuntu-ops
[05:38] <ke1ha_> VMPlayer3  and any 9.10 is a good playground, if ya break it, it's real easy and fast to restore / rebuild it. and it's all free.
[05:38] <ahmed_> koshari i am running Ubuntu right now on my desktop but i want to run it on my laptop too
[05:38] <semitones> snayth, hey, are you here?
[05:38] <Jordan_U> mushy1, You can try installing via the alternate install CD, though you will likely still get a black screen on first boot after installing
[05:38] <snayth> semitones: Yup
[05:38] <ahmed_> and i am using Vbox too
[05:38] <Duskin> Ahmed_ try installing using the alternate install cd
[05:39] <koshari> ahmed_ by all means go for it,
[05:39] <`mOOse`> well I like uTorrent in windows so every torrent pgm I find in linux I subliminally compare to it....I've yet to find anything close so I'm shopping
[05:39] <shizuragirl> irc://irc.irchighway.net/aerandria.
[05:39] <shizuragirl> oh sorry
[05:39] <shizuragirl> i don't know how to use this
[05:39] <`mOOse`> I'll give it a shot
[05:39] <semitones> snayth, alright, to answer your question, lubuntu uses LXDE, instead of GNOME, which has been designed to be low-requirement and work on lower hardware
[05:39] <snayth> semitones: So are you running the Lubuntu?  Could I run it with 256MB's ram & about 5GB'd HDrive space ? My friend keeps getting spyware.
[05:39] <iflema> oi.... transmission... its great.... you get treated like a king even if you dont put out... if ya follow me. would ya like a calander with that?
[05:40] <semitones> snayth, I'm running Lubuntu right now on 376 mb ram, and 5GB is enough to install it
[05:40] <semitones> er, 384 mb ram
[05:40] <ahmed_> i burned ubuntu 32-bit and 64-bit  iso image  on dc but when i tried to install them on my 64-bit Gateway core i3, they did not work.
[05:40] <snayth> semitones: Does it have a fairly easy to use and understand desktop ?
[05:41] <ahmed_> by the way Opensolaris is working but Ubuntu i have a problem with the video graphic
[05:41] <Jordan_U> ahmed_, You can try installing via the alternate install CD, though you will likely still get a black screen on first boot after installing
[05:41] <semitones> snayth, it's pretty easy -- I would say that regular Ubuntu is slightly easier, but Lubuntu is pretty easy too.
[05:42] <semitones> snayth, nothing out of the ordinary
[05:42] <ahmed_> what is alternate cd? please
[05:42] <snayth> semitones: Sweet - Sounds like the ticket! I'll go check it out - Thanks so much - you're a life saver.....
[05:42] <kinja-sheep> !alt | ahmed_
[05:42] <Jordan_U> !alternate | ahmed_
[05:42] <j-A_son> is there a way to restore my BIOS to factory defaults?
[05:43] <ahmed_> ok i will try to find it thank you for your help
[05:43] <koshari> j-A_son theres usually a setting to load failsafe defaults which is pretty much factory
[05:43] <LavaEagle> Anyone here using Mandriva Linux Free?
[05:43] <semitones> snayth, no problem :) Lubuntu is also fairly new, and is just being added to the Ubuntu roster, so expect lots of improvements to be made to it too
[05:43] <kinja-sheep> j-A_son: Most BIOS should have that option already.. in their BIOS.
[05:43] <mneptok> darthanubis: did you see my request to join #ubuntu-ops?
[05:44] <snayth> semitones: Yea - I was just looking at it - looks promising though.
[05:44] <semitones> snayth, take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/UbuntuLxdeDesktop
[05:45] <LavaEagle> is there a way to stop seeing all the people who leave and come back?
[05:45] <semitones> LavaEagle, yes, enable conference mode. what program are you using?
[05:45] <Duskin> Lavaeagle: it should be a setting in your irc client
[05:45] <mneptok> LavaEagle: depends on the IRC client.
[05:45] <LavaEagle> pidgin
[05:45] <semitones> look around for it, It'll be there somewhere
[05:45] <NEGRITO> HABLAN ESPANONL ALGUIN
[05:46] <koshari> LavaEagle tools > plugins > join/patr hiding
[05:46] <mneptok> !es | NEGRITO
[05:46] <Kismet> automounting dosen't work.. anyone halp me
[05:46] <j-A_son> my BIOS is factory default already... I'm pretty sure I just need a driver.
[05:46] <mneptok> j-A_son: for what?
[05:46] <j-A_son> network card
[05:46] <j-A_son> i really don't know though.
[05:46] <mneptok> j-A_son: wireless?
[05:47] <j-A_son> and ethernet
[05:47] <Duskin> 'Ismet: what are you trying to mount?
[05:47] <Kismet> i would like to burn a dvd.. but my dvd-rom can't be mounted automaticly
[05:47] <kinja-sheep> I FORETELL SPAMS?
[05:47] <felixsulla> Yeah no kidding.
[05:47] <Duskin> Kismet: do you know what the drive path is?
[05:48] <Kismet> no
[05:48] <snayth> semitones, Wow - That looks so cool - I have been seeing people post stuff about not being to run the newer Karmic, etc. The guy's that wrote this responded - looks very promising - I have used DSLinux before but not really good for a linux noob.
[05:48] <LavaEagle> koshari: It worked!
[05:48] <Kismet> Duskin: no i don't know the path....
[05:48] <semitones> snayth, yeah, I wouldn't recommend DSLinux for regular use, but Lubuntu works really well :)
[05:48] <Duskin> Kismet: try in console: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[05:49] <snayth> semitones, Toddling off now to download - going to actually set it up in a virtualbox 1st.
[05:49] <semitones> snayth, and if new users have problems, there's a great community for them to come to for help
[05:49] <mneptok> j-A_son: run "lspci -vvv" and see if the Ethernet device is listed there. if it is not, then you have BIOS or hardware issues.
[05:49] <semitones> snayth, good idea. Does lubuntu have a live cd you can download?
[05:50] <Kismet> Duskin, okay i try
[05:50] <magn3ts> I'm installing some software and it wants a file in /etc/event.d/<service name> and then run with "sudo start <service name>" but it is just returning "unknown job:"
[05:50] <magn3ts> Anyone know how to resolve it?
[05:50] <Ascavasaion> ubottu: hehehe  Relax dude.
[05:51] <snayth> semitones, Yea - When I load Karmic on a friends computer one of the 1st apps I install is Xchat and show them - "look here are all these people that have a passion for what they do" and just waiting to answer your questions. Can't ask more then that!
[05:51] <Ascavasaion> BWHAHAHAHA!!!!!
[05:52] <Kismet> Duskin, i get some error with : wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sr0
[05:52] <Kismet> etc
[05:52] <semitones> snayth: hehe, I'm glad :) and once you've learnd a little bit, you're able to help people newer than you
[05:52] <j-A_son> mneptok: it list ethernet controller, but I still have no idea how to get it to work. Thanks for your help
[05:52] <LavaEagle> Lol I was on pidgin portable
[05:52] <j-A_son> what do you think?
[05:52] <LavaEagle> removed by accident and oh shi*
[05:52] <snayth> semitones, I can't say how times I've called MS and been pretty much frustrated and disappointed by the whole thing...
[05:52] <Duskin> Kismet: is the cd a blank cd?
[05:53] <Kismet> Duskin, it is a blank dvd
[05:53] <mneptok> j-A_son: "cat /etc/network/interfaces" and tell me if you see eth0 or eth1
[05:53] <snayth> semitones, Well thanks - I'am still learning - but it's worth it - cya
[05:53] <mneptok> j-A_son: do NOT paste results to the channel
[05:53] <semitones> snayth, yeah, I have to say, ubuntu, and linux in general seem a lot easier to fix than windows. There, it either works, or it doesn't :/
[05:53] <j-A_son> k
[05:53] <Kismet> Duskin, i don't know if that makes the difference
[05:54] <Duskin> Kismet: you don't need to mount it, just open up the burner
[05:54] <j-A_son> no
[05:54] <Duskin> Kismet: burner program*
[05:54] <j-A_son> its just the loopback
[05:54] <mneptok> j-A_son: when you ran lspci, who makes the Ethernet chipset?
[05:55] <j-A_son> I guess Intel? thats the only company here. sorry :P
[05:55] <Kismet> Duskin, "could not display "burn:///".
[05:55] <shadowruni> hello all
[05:55] <Kismet> Duskin, is the message if i try to open cD/DVD Creator
[05:56] <om26er> !hi | shadowruni
[05:56] <dj__> hey guys.  Anyone know how to properly burn a iso file?  I tried right clicking on it and burning it, however when I was trying to install windows 7 from the burnt dvd, it says not all install files are there
[05:56] <Kismet> Duskin, and with brasero i just can burn an image file
[05:56] <dj__> kismet: brasero is the default application yes?
[05:56] <shadowruni> dj, are you sure your iso is good?
[05:56] <dj__> i'm + my iso is good
[05:56] <j-A_son> mneptok: I think Intel
[05:57] <shadowruni> hmmm
[05:57] <j-A_son> "Intel Corporation"
[05:57] <Jordan_U> dj__, You can use brasero and enable the option to verify that the CD burned properly, beyond that this is really a question for ##windows
[05:57] <mneptok> j-A_son: i doubt it's Intel. 99% of Intel wired network stuff "just works" in Linux.
[05:57] <LavaEagle> dj: you burning an iso from where?
[05:57] <Kismet> dj__, i don't know which one is the default application... I just used to use both
[05:57] <dj__> ftr I reallly hate windows, however I do like having my music on my subs :P
[05:57] <shadowruni> dj, generate an md5 chksum and paste it here and tell me the version you're using
[05:57] <dj__> lava i'm burning a iso from my external hardrive
[05:57] <Duskin> Kismet: I don't know how to fix the programs, you'll have to ask someone else
[05:58] <LavaEagle> dj: source?
[05:58] <shadowruni> I can compare that to my copies (MS gold partnership rocks) and see what's up
[05:58] <j-A_son> Ethernet controller: Intel Coporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 10)
[05:58] <Kismet> Duskin, thank you for your time....
[05:58] <mneptok> dj__: discussions of software piracy are not welcome here.
[05:58] <Kismet> Duskin, kind of you
[05:58] <dj__> software piracy lol...
[05:58] <mneptok> j-A_son: do you have the Live CD/DVD around?
[05:58] <j-A_son> yes
[05:58] <dj__> you know I very well could of ripped the iso from a disc I purchased.  I do have a little niece that likes to destroy my cd's and dvds
[05:58] <arooni_____> hey folks; i have a 16GB microsd flash card in my phone that doesnt appear as a drive on ubuntu jaunty (usually it did) ; i cant even see it with gparted.  the partition is damaged so i need to reformat.  ideas?
[05:59] <mneptok> j-A_son: boot off that and see if the Ethernet interface works. if it does, something you configured on the installed system is causing the issue.
[05:59] <shadowruni> arooni, try sudo fdisk -l
[06:00] <j-A_son> mneptok: it's a fresh install- it didn't work off the live CD before either. Should I try again? Thanks for your time.
[06:00] <dj__> anything better than brasero?
[06:00] <iflema> dj__ the desktop menus.... Applications / Sound and Video / Brasero Disc Burner will burn an iso image.
[06:00] <Kismet> Hey anyone an idea why i can't burn images or anything else to a dvd anymore
[06:01] <dj__> kismet: I'd check your disc burner itself.  Sometiems they will crap out on you
[06:01] <DaemonFC> Kismet, Could be that the drive is dying
[06:01] <mneptok> j-A_son: desktop or laptop?
[06:01] <j-A_son> desktop
[06:01] <DaemonFC> sometimes they still recognize CDs for a while
[06:01] <dj__> iflema:  I know how to use brasero, it's just not burning the data I need burnt correctly.  I know my .iso is good to go
[06:01] <mneptok> j-A_son: examine the BIOS carefully. ensure the network interface is active.
[06:01] <j-A_son> mneptok: Dell Dimension 8250, desktop
[06:02] <Kismet> DaemonFC, It works with a live cd
[06:02] <ke1ha_> is you run cdrecord -scabus id the drive identified ?
[06:02] <Kismet> dj__, it works with a live cd
[06:02] <j-A_son> mneptok: it's on the factory default settings- I'm not really sure what I can do
[06:02] <DaemonFC> yeah, but it's not recognizing DVD-Rs, right?
[06:02] <ke1ha_> opps cdrecord -scanbus
[06:02] <dj__> oh well...I guess i'll figure it out :)
[06:02] <dj__> thanks for the idea's though
[06:03] <j-A_son> it worked beofre with the same settings- but when I removed and reinstalled ubuntu it stopped working
[06:03] <iflema> dj__ " Anyone know how to properly burn an iso file?" and the burner?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> dj__, I seriously doubt that changing software will help anything. Have you tried looking at the md5sum of the CD vs that of the iso?
[06:03] <Kismet> DaemonFC, the live -cd is a live dvd
[06:03] <dj__> i'm going to look at that now
[06:03] <snayth> semitones, Hey you still here ? Does the Lubuntu run restricted - like flash, etc ?
[06:03] <semitones> snayth, yup. In most ways, it's like a lightweight skin on ubuntu
[06:04] <DaemonFC> snayth, Just a guess, but I would assume Lubuntu is using gstreamer and Firefox and all that
[06:04] <DaemonFC> It makes no sense at all to use Xine :)
[06:04] <j-A_son> mneptok: it worked before with the same settings- but when I removed and reinstalled ubuntu it stopped working
[06:04] <snayth> DaemonFC, Sweet - Not a purist yet - but working my way there
[06:05] <dj__>  /leave
[06:05] <mneptok> j-A_son: which release? Live or installed?
[06:05] <dj__> exit
[06:05] <juan_> !foo
[06:05] <juan_> !bar
[06:05] <semitones> !baz
[06:05] <juan_> lol
[06:05] <arooni_____> whats a good way to transfer music over to my blackberry (or any mass storage device) that doesnt involve drag and drop?  (ideally like an itunes for ubunut)
[06:06] <juan_> iTunes runs on Ubuntu
[06:06] <DaemonFC> snayth, The problem with bloat is not best solved by cutting everything out, GNOME is bloated because a users needs are big, not because it's harboring a lot of useless crap. (To borrow upon a Jamie Zawinsky quote)
[06:06] <ke1ha_> arooni_ rsync .. i use it to sync all my media folders.
[06:06] <DaemonFC> juan_, Poor Ubuntu
[06:06] <DaemonFC> hehe
[06:06] <mneptok> juan_: is that a question?
[06:06] <j-A_son> mneptok: it worked with 8.10, but then I reinstalled ubuntu 9.10 from disk to overwrite everything. I was going to give the computer to my scout troop, but I ended up keeping it for some home networking usage; now it's just not connecting to anything.
[06:06] <dbluefield> hello:)
[06:06] <Dravekx> 70 packages can be updated. 37 updates are security updates. , should I update?
[06:06] <snayth> semitones, That's good to here - When you try to explain about codecs and proprietary to a regular windows user - there eyes kinda glass over and they just don't see your point.
[06:07] <juan_> sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[06:07] <LavaEagle> arooni: I have looked for something similar for my 3200 bb but the best way I could keep complete control of my phone was drag and drop or possibly acdsee
[06:07] <Jordan_U> Dravekx, Yes
[06:07] <DaemonFC> snayth, "codec packs! Sweeeeet!"
[06:07] <dbluefield> can anybody give a linux newb some advice?
[06:07] <DaemonFC> *grin*
[06:07] <mneptok> j-A_son: if you are donating it, try 8.04 on it. it's an LTS release. 9.10 is not.
[06:07] <Jordan_U> !ask | dbluefield
[06:07] <_Trullo> heh, I run sudo apt-get update / upgrade atleast twice / day :)
[06:07] <dbluefield> thanx Jordan
[06:07] <Dravekx> dbluefield, like what?
[06:07] <Jordan_U> dbluefield, np
[06:08] <juan_> Dravekx: update
[06:08] <Dravekx> juan_, I am
[06:08] <semitones> snayth, haha, it depends how you explain it, but yeah I know what you mean. They don't know why they should care
[06:08] <snayth> DaemonFC, Yea I totally agree - my machine is mean and lean with 8gb's ram and huge hard drive so bloat is not a BIG deal to me but is to allot of other folks.
[06:08] <j-A_son> alright- I tried moving back to 8.10, but I don't think I have tried 8.04- come to think of it, that's where I started out- thanks for your help.
[06:08] <j-A_son> I'll do that now.
[06:09] <mneptok> snayth: "a lot." two words. :)
[06:09] <dbluefield> I've burned the Ubuntu ISO onto disk and will try to boot it --my windows XP boc has a C/drive(windowsOS) and a partitioned E drive for extras -- where will Ubuntu install?
[06:09] <snayth> semitones, yup - they just don't get it - but that's how it is
[06:09] <juan_> dbluefield: need an EXT4 and Swap partitions
[06:09] <juan_> :)
[06:09] <DaemonFC> snayth, GNOME is actually scrapping most of the $50,000 toilet seats anyhow
[06:09] <DaemonFC> making room for GNOME 3
[06:09] <Jimmio> Hey all. How do I use dd to copy only, say, 2MB of a source?
[06:09] <Jordan_U> dbluefield, The installer will give you an option to resize your current partitions to make space for Ubuntu
[06:09] <Dravekx> dbluefield, it will install where you tell it to.
[06:09] <semitones> dbluefield, you can rearrange your partitions using the installer
[06:10] <dbluefield> didnt understand that juan
[06:10] <juan_> dbluefield: need to make 2 more partitions
[06:10] <dbluefield> will it add another partition?
[06:10] <Dravekx> dbluefield, or you can just run it off the CD and not install it. :)
[06:10] <juan_> dbluefield: 1 EXT4 / 1 Swap
[06:10] <DaemonFC> snayth, It's not going to surprise me when GNOME 3 is out with all the features it has now and comes in lighter than vanilla XFCE
[06:10] <semitones> dbluefield, the real question is, what would YOU like it to do
[06:10] <DaemonFC> XFCE is already overtaking the resource usage title away from GNOME and KDE anyway
[06:11] <mushy1> anyone know how to format off the security crap that is on kingston DTVP usb drives
[06:11] <juan_> DaemonFC: XFCE is not so lightweight now
[06:11] <semitones> DaemonFC, but XFCE is so pretty :P
[06:11] <DaemonFC> a necessary consequence of doing more and being more things to more people
[06:11] <dbluefield> when I turn the computer on - do I get a choice between windows and ubuntu?
[06:11] <mushy1> i want to make it a regular USB drive to work on windows and linux
[06:11] <Dravekx> Should I reboot the server after updating?
[06:11] <om26er> seme, really ?
[06:11] <juan_> dbluefield: yes
[06:11] <semitones> DaemonFC, LXDE is the new lightweight king (aside from fluxbox)
[06:11] <snayth> semitones, You know though it only takes about two weeks for someone that I've put linux on their computer and there saying stuff like - Wow this seems so much more solid the windose and it doesn't crash - so they get the big picture quite quickly
[06:11] <juan_> Dravekx: only if requested
[06:11] <dbluefield> is that in the Bios --what does it look like?
[06:12] <Dravekx> juan_, ahhhh. k.
[06:12] <semitones> snayth, yeah, it tends to be that way
[06:12] <LavaEagle> dbluefield:  When you insert the disk it will give you 3 choices, use entire disk, side by side, or custom,  i believe side by side does ext3 with swap automatically, and custom you must define what partition type nad what the swap size is
[06:12] <indus> dbluefield, it comes after the bios
[06:12] <juan_> dbluefield: make Back-Ups --->Data
[06:12] <Jordan_U> mushy1, You can format it with either fat32 or ntfs and both windows and linux will be able to read and write to it, though Mac OS only supports reading ntfs by default ( it supports reading and writing to fat32 though )
[06:12] <DaemonFC> LavaEagle, Side by side does Ext4, and way too much SWAP
[06:12] <snayth> DaemonFC, Gnome 3 ? Is that going to in Lucid ?
[06:12] <DaemonFC> just like normal install does :D
[06:13] <LavaEagle> DaemonFC: ty
[06:13] <indus> snayth, no it will probably with 10.10
[06:13] <Dravekx> Im not to fond of dual booting ubuntu and windows. :( I always have problems with it.
[06:13] <DaemonFC> snayth, No, GNOME 2.30 will, GNOME 3 will ship in place of GNOME 2.32
[06:13] <dbluefield> thanx - Im getting the idea - any best practises for installing?
[06:13] <mushy1> Jordan_U: right now my linux cannot read it at all
[06:13] <mushy1> and wine cannot run the DTVP exe thing
[06:13] <LavaEagle> Dravekx: agreed, even though it is fairly stable it is always preferable to dedicate a comptuer to it
[06:13] <juan_> dbluefield: backup
[06:13] <indus> dbluefield, stick with ext 3
[06:13] <DaemonFC> LavaEagle, The installer tries the 3.5 times physical RAM rule, which doesn't work out so well on systems with over 4 GB
[06:13] <juan_> dbluefield: use EXT4
[06:13] <DaemonFC> custom install is advisable
[06:14] <DaemonFC> err, 2.5
[06:14] <snayth> DaemonFC, I had heard about that ( Gnome 3 ) - Have to check it - Sounds great.
[06:14] <dbluefield> my disks are NTFS
[06:14] <Jordan_U> mushy1, Can you give more information about what exactly this device is?
[06:14] <indus> juan_, ext4 has reports of data loss
[06:14] <DaemonFC> snayth, You can preview it by installing gnome-shell
[06:14] <thedancingdeer> whenever u close my gnome-terminal (using ctrl+d) after using the terminal a bit, my volume is set to mute! how do i check the scripts which run after closing any terminal?
[06:14] <dbluefield> is ext 3/4 an install option?
[06:14] <DaemonFC> dbluefield, You can install to ext2/3/4, XFS, ResierFS, or JFS
[06:14] <juan_> indus: not confirmed, all FS can data loss
[06:15] <petsounds> !installation > dbluefield
[06:15] <DaemonFC> juan_, GRUB was even corrupting ext3 at one point, in RHEL
[06:15] <DaemonFC> :D
[06:15] <dbluefield> I have all my data on a seperate hard drive - its in the computer---any problems there?
[06:15] <snayth> DaemonFC, I'm running Karmic now - Would be best to setup in a virtualbox or something 1st you think?
[06:15] <indus> dbluefield, i say stick with ext3 its proven
[06:15] <mushy1> Jordan_U: http://www.kingston.com/flash/DTvaultPrivacy.asp   2gb version
[06:15] <mushy1> i want the security GONE preferably
[06:15] <Dravekx> indus, I've used ext4 for 3 months now, no problems.
[06:15] <juan_> DaemonFC: i never trusted RHEL
[06:16] <indus> i too, but have a look at this wait
[06:16] <juan_> DaemonFC: or Centos
[06:16] <DaemonFC> snayth, gnome-shell is in the repository, you have to manually tell it to replace metacity -or- compiz by using gnome-shell --replace
[06:16] <ke1ha_> same here, 3 servers on Ext3 and 3 on Ext4 ... Ext4 seems very stable to date.
[06:16] <DaemonFC> and that's just for one session anyway
[06:16] <juan_> EXT4 is rock solid
[06:17] <dbluefield> thanx -- sounds like 3 or 4:)
[06:17] <juan_> if suddendly power failure any FS can data loss
[06:17] <DaemonFC> I think it also adds an option to use it in the Appearance applet where you normally select metacity or Compiz
[06:17] <juan_> but its strange
[06:17] <juan_> on any EXT
[06:17] <SpinachHead> where is the best place to download the lucid lynx development version?  The daily image won't install
[06:17] <DaemonFC> juan_, I don't trust Ext4, you can format as many of your own drives with it as you care to :D
[06:17] <indus> juan_, its not rock solid as ext 3
[06:17] <semitones> dbluefield, go with 4 -- newer = better support in the future
[06:17] <ke1ha_> for the average uer Ext3  or 4 is more than enough. if you want high performance, XFS.
[06:17] <dbluefield> my hysical data drive should be safe? (he asks hopefully)?
[06:17] <snayth> DaemonFC, I might install karmic in a VBox and try that - Don't want to screw up this setup I have now - it's running sweet
[06:18] <dbluefield> this is for basic web surfing
[06:18] <indus> juan_, DaemonFC http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0OA
[06:18] <dbluefield> unless I get into linux big time:)
[06:18] <rww> ubottu: ubuntu+1 | SpinachHead
[06:18] <DaemonFC> Ext4 is already far less reliable because it uses Extents, if you're paranoid you'll want to use Ext3
[06:19] <rww> ...
[06:19] <snayth> DaemonFC, After all my HDrive is just itch'n to get filled up heh heh...
[06:19] <rww> SpinachHead: sorry, wrong factoid. Lucid questions in #ubuntu+1
[06:19] <DaemonFC> I know, XFS uses extents too
[06:19] <ke1ha_> snayth ... I run UB, XUB and EUB all 9.10 from a single laptop VM, works great, lets me eval all off them painlessly.
[06:19] <Dravekx> dbluefield, just back everything up. Run Ubuntu from USB or CD and see if you like it. THEN, if you want to dual boot,  go for it... but not unless you are sure. i would recommend against dual boot. It's better to stay 1 O/S per machine.
[06:19] <DaemonFC> XFS is also much more mature than Ext4
[06:19] <dbluefield> I want linux for security basically
[06:19] <DaemonFC> Ext4 has only been tested on the masses for not even 2 years yet
[06:19] <SpinachHead> okay, thx
[06:19] <DaemonFC> XFS dates back to 1994
[06:20] <snayth> kelha, You like VM over VBox?
[06:20] <juan_> DaemonFC: no, i use it for years starting on Sabayon Linux
[06:20] <dbluefield> sounds like good advice Dravekx
[06:20] <indus> DaemonFC, well, its an evolution of ext 3 so you cannot say its 2 years old /new
[06:20] <juan_> DaemonFC: the first to support it officially
[06:20] <tkotu> Sup everyone. anyone know why I have cdrom2 that wont mount?
[06:20] <ke1ha_> I use for testing. All my real boxes are native installs.
[06:20] <juan_> DaemonFC: it sux :)
[06:20] <xtagon> Quick, easy question: Is it a bad idea to remove gedit? Aptitude says it'll remove ubuntu-desktop. Is that safe?
[06:20] <snayth> kelha, Was talking about Vmware.
[06:20] <dbluefield> I use VMware on my laptop
[06:20] <DaemonFC> juan_, The on-disk format of Ext4 is radically different from Ext3
[06:21] <rww> ubottu: ubuntu-desktop | xtagon
[06:21] <Dravekx> dbluefield, advice from experience. I'm about a 7 month newbie still.
[06:21] <dbluefield> so you guys think dual boot will cause problems?
[06:21] <indus> dbluefield, it will not !
[06:21] <DaemonFC> once you switch over to Extents, you'll never mount an Ext4 partition as Ext3 again (without deleting every file you touched since switching to Extents)
[06:21] <semitones> dbluefield, no, dual booting is great
[06:21] <ke1ha_> rr. VMware .. I use Workstation 5.5.9 and it works, not the best, like I said, you want a real performance, Native Install is the way to go.,
[06:21] <snayth> kelha_, opps didn't see your underscore - So do you use Vmware and do you like it better then VBox?
[06:21] <xtagon> rww: Thanks. In the future, where do I check to see if a package is a meta package or not?
[06:21] <dbluefield> I'm totaL NEWB..lol
[06:21] <indus> frankly i too never had an issue with ext 4, that article is one off i guess
[06:21] <mushy1> what kind of dumbass still worries about dualbooting
[06:21] <semitones> dbluefield, we were all in your place, once :)
[06:22] <tkotu> cdrom2: why is it in my computer?
[06:22] <mushy1> niggas be quad booting these days while running multiple vms
[06:22] <songer> hello, i can't set my resolution
[06:22] <mushy1> with 10 monitors
[06:22] <indus> dbluefield, dual boot is the most pratical way of installing linux
[06:22] <semitones> !ohmy | mushy1
[06:22] <juan_> i want LXC
[06:22] <DaemonFC> You can create an Ext4 partition that's backward compatible by telling it to not use Extents, but then you've got yourself an overglorified Ext3
[06:22] <ke1ha_> I also run a VMPlayer 8.04 UB install on my i7 box for Folding at home. Works well.
[06:22] <rww> xtagon: If it's in the "metapackages" section, it's a metapackage. "apt-cache show packagenamehere" will show a bunch of information, including the section. I believe Synaptic can show it also.
[06:22] <Dravekx> mushy1, dual booting windows and linux as a newb is like telling a ford mechanic to build a GM car.
[06:23] <dbluefield> I'd like to go for it -- if it craps my machine out - oh well
[06:23] <xtagon> rww: Great. Thanks for being so helpful :)
[06:23] <indus> dbluefield, here is some neat advice, one partition of say 10 gb for / , the rest for /home and size of ram for /swap
[06:23] <semitones> Dravekx, I disagree, for a determined user it's no problem
[06:23] <mushy1> no its not
[06:23] <mushy1> first
[06:23] <mushy1> have the cat run the ubuntu live cd
[06:23] <tkotu> I feel invisible...lol.
[06:23] <mushy1> figure out if he even NEEDS linux
[06:23] <songer> i already install my driver
[06:23] <Dravekx> right.
[06:23] <mushy1> then the partitioning is so easy these days
[06:24] <mushy1> with the interface it gives
[06:24] <mushy1> can you use a slide bar?
[06:24] <juan_> tkotu: whats t problem?
[06:24] <indus> dbluefield, thats of course if you have manual partitioning,
[06:24] <mushy1> if you can use a slide bar and click next you can dual boot
[06:24] <mushy1> end of discussion
[06:24] <dbluefield> I guess what Im asking is -- my 1st physical drive has one partition C & E -- will Ubuntu make 2 more? -- the E drive has about 60 gigs left
[06:24] <semitones> mushy1, please don't use enter as a punctuation :)
[06:24] <Dravekx> well, nowadays there is really no need for dual boot.. windows and linux can do pretty much the same things.
[06:24] <semitones> dbluefield, if you want it to, it will
[06:24] <Dravekx> its a matter of know-how
[06:24] <mushy1> PERIODS DONT EXIST ON IRC
[06:24] <DaemonFC> you're also not going to benefit much from Ext4 by mounting an Ext2/3 volume as Ext4, because most of your files are in the old format and there is no defrag tool for Ext4 (yet)
[06:24] <indus> dbluefield, ubuntu doesnt make any unless you tell it
[06:24] <dbluefield> I've run Ubuntu - I like it
[06:25] <ke1ha_> Manual, after you've done it a couple time is the best way to go. Dead easy, and you can change things as you want to test them.
[06:25] <DaemonFC> you need to format it to really get any benefit
[06:25] <dbluefield> linux cant play halo
[06:25] <indus> dbluefield, what is on E ?
[06:25] <DaemonFC> dbluefield, Yes it can
[06:25] <juan_> dbluefield: linux can play halo
[06:25] <semitones> dbluefield, it can erase your entire disk if you want, or it can resize your existing partions to make room for ubuntu. it's whatever you choose
[06:25] <DaemonFC> Wine
[06:25] <dbluefield> really?
[06:25] <juan_> sudo apt-get install playonlinux
[06:25] <Myrtti> DaemonFC: eh... defrrag doesnt exist for ext3 either
[06:25] <dbluefield> E drive has some programs
[06:25] <indus> !wine | appdb
[06:26] <DaemonFC> Myrtti, The defrag after ext4 conversion would put the old files into the new format
[06:26] <indus> !appdb | dbluefield
[06:26] <ke1ha_> You don't need a High Performance FS on the /boot partition, swap is not formated, so that leaves you the rest to do testing with, maake one of each Ext2,3,4 XFS and riserfs
[06:26] <dbluefield> seems like wine would be more trouble?
[06:26] <tkotu> I have a non-existent cdrom2. What do?
[06:26] <indus> dbluefield, first things first, just install it , then comes wine
[06:26] <juan_> tkotu: theres no CDROM 2 on Ubuntu CDs
[06:27] <semitones> dbluefield, honestly, wine can be a hassle. I play games on windows, but use Ubuntu for everything else
[06:27] <juan_> tkotu: what CDS are you talking about?
[06:27] <DaemonFC> Myrtti, xfs_fsr essentially tries to find a more optimal place on the volume for the fragmented file, copy the file there, and delete the original
[06:27] <dbluefield> thats what I was thinking semi
[06:27] <DaemonFC> it takes a lot of work to fragment an XFS volume seriously though
[06:27] <indus> !filesystem
[06:27] <dbluefield> do my viral web surfing in winblows too:)
[06:27] <DaemonFC> Ext4 already has the hooks for e4defrag, but e4defrag doesn't exist yet
[06:27] <juan_> !foo
[06:28] <Dravekx> whats the difference in apt-get and aptitude?
[06:28] <juan_> Dravekx: apt-get got super cow powers
[06:28] <Dravekx> lol
[06:28] <DaemonFC> Dragnslcr, Aptitude has more options and isn't just a command line utility
[06:28] <dbluefield> I guess there's only one way to see - me should install...lol
[06:28] <DaemonFC> it's basically a Synaptic for the terminal
[06:28] <Dravekx> juan_, so they are the same thing
[06:29] <indus> Dravekx, aptitude used to have better dependency solution than apt-get  , but i still find it is better
[06:29] <indus> apt-get is no better
[06:29] <mneptok> DaemonFC: being "for the terminal" makes it a "command line only utility"
[06:29] <dbluefield> my digital monitor doesnt show the BIOS - I hope it boots off CD first time:)
[06:29] <DaemonFC> mneptok, You know what I meant
[06:29] <juan_> Dravekx: more or less, yes, some people say that aptitude got more CLI option, bue doesnt, apt-get got the options too
[06:29] <mneptok> DaemonFC: no, i don't
[06:30] <Dravekx> ahhh
[06:30] <indus> dbluefield, you need to enter into bios by pressing some key say f12 f8 etc or maybe del key
[06:30] <ke1ha_> apt-get is shorter to type :-) .. that's gotta be a plus :-)
[06:30] <DaemonFC> mneptok, It's an ncurses ui
[06:30] <DaemonFC> does that help?
[06:30] <juan_> some people say that apt-get dont have reinstall, but it have apt-get install --reinstall package
[06:31] <mneptok> DaemonFC: and ncurses is command line.
[06:31] <Dravekx> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.  << I guess that means Im good and up to date?
[06:31] <dbluefield> thanx indus -- hopefully it will boot first try
[06:31] <dbluefield> just lurking here to see if there are any other bears in the woods
[06:31] <xtagon> mneptok: More like TUI than command-line. There aren't really lines of commands involved.
[06:32] <juan_> Canonical make nice package manager GUI too
[06:32] <DaemonFC> Dravekx, aptitude it reallu best to use if you're on debian unstable because it gives you safe-upgrade
[06:32] <mneptok> xtagon: to invoke aptitude a user must type commands
[06:32] <dbluefield> I was thinking of putting Ubuntu on my E drive (sounds like ext 3 would work)  will that be a custom job?
[06:32] <indus> dbluefield, good luck :)
[06:32] <juan_> 1-SmartPM 2-Add/Remove 3-Software-Center
[06:33] <dbluefield> thanx indus
[06:33] <Jordan_U> DaemonFC, aptitude safe-upgrade is exactly the same as apt-get upgrade IIRC
[06:33] <Dravekx> maybe aptitude is more "user friendly" I guess you would say.
[06:34] <indus> synaptic is the best
[06:34] <om26er> indus, not efficient
[06:34] <DaemonFC> Jordan_U, The last time I looked, there were things it held back that apt-get would probably have gone ahead and broken
[06:34] <rww> aptitude has a minesweeper function that helpfully crashes it. Can't beat that.
[06:34] <juan_> SmartPM is nice
[06:34] <indus> om26er, compared to ?
[06:34] <juan_> SmartPM, Canonical 2006
[06:34] <DaemonFC> juan_,  RPMs on Ubuntu
[06:34] <DaemonFC> :)
[06:35] <juan_> DaemonFC: not for RPM
[06:35] <dbluefield> thanx for the tips guys - have a great day!
[06:35] <juan_> DaemonFC: but can handle RPM and DEB at the same time
[06:35] <DaemonFC> smart could install RPMs on Ubuntu, they tell you not to do it though :)
[06:35] <DaemonFC> but you can :)
[06:36] <juan_> any LSB compliant got the capability to install RPM
[06:36] <indus> too off topic now
[06:36] <juan_> yep
[06:36] <indus> !offtopic
[06:36] <Dravekx> ssl: good or bad?
[06:37] <mneptok> Dravekx: that's offtopic, also.
[06:38] <Dravekx> mneptok, how do you figure? Im wondering if its good or bad for ubuntu server.
[06:38] <dsnyders> Hi all.  I recently upgraded to 9.10 and now I can't view youtube videos.  What gives?
[06:38] <lzf> need install flashplayer
[06:38] <mneptok> Dravekx: it's not a support question. start using SSL, and if you have questions, ask them.
[06:38] <juan_> dsnyders: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ; sudo apt-get clean
[06:39] <Dravekx> mneptok, k. :)
[06:39] <gnomex> can i know..
[06:39] <gnomex> how can i reload my Bootloader...
[06:39] <mneptok> !grub > gnomex
[06:40] <darthanubis> dsnyders: do you know what flash is?
[06:40] <lzf> adobe
[06:40] <dsnyders> darthanubis, vaguely.  It's some sort of internet video tool
[06:40] <darthanubis> wow
[06:40] <juan_> flash is a nice malware to watch interwebs video and halt the pc
[06:40] <darthanubis> yeah basically
[06:40] <snayth> semitones, Hey what version of Lubuntu are you running ? And where is the best site to download it from?
[06:41] <archboxman> channel
[06:41] <darthanubis> !flash
[06:41] <juan_> XD
[06:41] <tomatoes7> i'm trying to run rootstock, but i keep getting the message "qemu not installed" even though it is installed
[06:41] <semitones> snayth, I'll look for a link
[06:41] <lzf> adobe flash
[06:41] <Jordan_U> DaemonFC, From the aptitude man page it appears aptitude safe-upgrade is actually *less* strictly safe. apt-get upgrade will never add new packages or remove old ones, aptitude safe-upgrade will remove packages that it thinks are "unused" if needed to upgrade another package.
[06:41] <snayth> semitones, Cooll thanks
[06:41] <dsnyders> darthanubis, So what happened to flash when I upgraded?
[06:42] <darthanubis> it did not go along for the ride
[06:42] <DaemonFC> Jordan_U, That's probably orphan packages that would be removed by apt-get autoremove
[06:42] <darthanubis> so now you have to read the link I shot at you
[06:42] <darthanubis> !flash > dsnyders
[06:42] <DaemonFC> it's only dangerous if the system flagged a needed package as an orphan
[06:43] <DaemonFC> and then you probably have a bug in the distribution anyway B-)
[06:43] <dsnyders> darthanubis, Would have been nice if the upgrade told you about such things.
[06:43] <archboxman> Jordan_U: aptitude keeps a running log of files installed and uninstalled not every this is perfect with aptitude , I would combination of ideas for install removes...
[06:43] <snayth> semitones, I found one version that is - lunbuntu-9.10 lynxis b23.iso
[06:43] <darthanubis> dsnyders: you are supposed to be aware of such things before you press buttons
[06:43] <semitones> snayth, the thing to do is install regular ubuntu, then convert it to Lubuntu -- there's no separate download as of yet. See here http://gilir.wordpress.com/2009/10/29/lubuntu-9-10-and-plan-for-lucid/
[06:44] <darthanubis> dsnyders: all OSes still require some reading
[06:44] <Jordan_U> DaemonFC, Yes, but the point is that aptitude safe-upgrade is *less* conservative in all ways than apt-get upgrade looking just at the descriptions in each commands man pages. Look for yourself.
[06:44] <iflema> dsnyders its like java... if everone refused to use it we'd have something better.....  download the .tgz file from adobe and extract it /home/[username]/.mozilla/plugins
[06:44] <juan_> lxde is not so DE independent apps, i try to install lxnm and it brings half LXDE
[06:44] <iflema> dsnyders ive a 64bit link if ya need
[06:45] <snayth> semitones, That's the big problem - I can't get regular ubuntu installed on this lappy - it's too slow. Any other suggestions
[06:45] <darthanubis> iflema: now why reccomend that, when he barely knows what it is. he should stay wiithin the repositories
[06:45] <juan_> snayth: mini.iso
[06:45] <juan_> snayth: minimalCD
[06:45] <darthanubis> dsnyders: you want to follow the PM I shot you. That is the supported method
[06:45] <snayth> juan_, ok - will try anything right now.
[06:45] <iflema> darthanubis get it from the shitty source....
[06:45] <semitones> snayth, yes, if you install a minimal install of ubuntu (no graphics, commandline only really,) then you can install lubuntu on top, and it will run. See the link I sent
[06:45] <indus> should i switch to kde, iam just worried aboutthe new applications
[06:46] <darthanubis> iflema: watch your fucking mouth
[06:46] <darthanubis> !language
[06:46]  * iflema :)
[06:46] <rww> darthanubis: watch yours.
[06:46] <snayth> semitones, Ok will do - Always one step ahead of myself sorry....
[06:46] <indus> ah shucks
[06:46] <dsnyders> darthanubis, There are ten thousand different aspects to an operating system.  Most people don't have the time to investigate every nuance.  You just upgrade and hope.
[06:46] <semitones> snayth, no problem
[06:46] <dsnyders> darthanubis, anyways, thanks for the link.  I'm processing...
[06:46] <darthanubis> dsnyders: hope is for fools
[06:47] <darthanubis> dsnyders: your better than that
[06:47] <juan_> theres an app on repo to sandbox the upgrade
[06:47] <tkotu> How do I fix a non-existent cdrom2?
[06:47] <juan_> tkotu: you can remove it using sudo
[06:48] <Jordan_U> tkotu, Do you mean a directory like /media/cdrom2 , a device node like /dev/cdrom2 or something else?
[06:48] <archboxman> dsnyders: not even a good Idea... upgrade and hope for the best... I don't upgrade I watch and see how many problems there are with a system like mine the wait 6 months and see if there are solutions...
[06:49] <tkotu> juan_, yeah, its also in places. it says I cant mount because it doesnt exist.
[06:49] <archboxman> dsnyders: I did what you said I would have stayed with ubuntu for ever... :) like debian and archlinux
[06:49] <snayth> semitones, Sounds like an adventure - I'm up to it after all a year ago I tried installing Arch - That was loads of fun
[06:50] <semitones> snayth, yes, it should be pretty straightforward though -- I'd recommend using a wired internet connection while you install though, if possible
[06:51] <juan_> dpkg -l | grep boobs
[06:51] <tkotu> lolwut
[06:51] <snayth> semitones, Yup not problem here - I have fiber about 20mb's down stream
[06:51] <archboxman> snayth: archlinux has gotten easier to use I think in the next 2 or 3 years they may slow down the idea of rolling releases , but only time will tell
[06:51] <juan_> do it
[06:51] <semitones> snayth, alright, you should be set :)
[06:51] <petsounds> mneptok, thanks
[06:52] <semitones> mneptok, join/quit messages?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[06:52] <Darkman> hi there
[06:52] <bryandunphy> Can anyone help me with why "Hardware Drives" would still say "this driver is not activated" even after I click Activate and enter my password? The driver is for my wireless card.
[06:52] <snayth> archboxman, Yea I see it's number 7 on Distrowatch - May have to give that another try one of these days - I hear tell it's very stable
[06:53] <mneptok> semitones: don't concern yourself with it. let's move on.
[06:53] <Darkman> I've a "small" problem with my ubuntu 9.10 - i use cryptodisks (at least one for swap and one for home) and after an normal update today, it won't boot anymore because i cannot enter the passphrase for my /home
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> bryandunphy: run: sudo lshw -C network     websearch for the product line
[06:53] <Darkman> i've got likely problems a few times but usually after a second reboot, it worked...
[06:53] <semitones> mneptok, sorry, just curious
[06:53] <snayth> semitones, Yup - I'll give the ol' college try - Can't be worse that a trip to the dentist after all heh heh
[06:53] <Darkman> but now, it's just fscked...
[06:54] <m0nk3y> using ubuntu 9.10 and gnome, does anyone know how to change the folders shown in the places menu
[06:54] <mneptok> semitones: no worries. but there are better things in this world to spend your time being curious about. ;)
[06:54] <juan_> Darkman: i use the ubuntus built-in Crypt, i never have a problem, i dont know these cryptodisk
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> m0nk3y: in nautilus, drag them to the left pael
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> panel
[06:54] <Darkman> juan_: you mean luks?
[06:54] <semitones> mneptok, definitely :)
[06:55] <juan_> Darkman: ecryptfs
[06:55] <ke1ha> Using XChat 2.8.6 is there a way to turn of who joins and leave the channel ?
[06:55] <ke1ha> oopps turn off ...
[06:55] <Darkman> juan_: mhkay, dunno about that but i use those cryptodisks since a few releases, the problems started with 9.10
[06:55] <semitones> kelha: right click on the channel > settings
[06:55] <m0nk3y> ActionParsnip: how do i open that - when i type sudo nautilus it just reinitializes dropbox and opens the file browser to root
[06:56] <m0nk3y> and i got a slew of errors in the command prompt
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> m0nk3y:1. sudo nautilius is NOT to be used
[06:56] <m0ar> My gnome-panel doesn't restart when killed, how can I start it from terminal without having the terminal open all the time?
[06:56] <semitones> ActionParsnip, is gksudo nautillus ok?
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> m0nk3y:2. just launch one of the items in places to run nautiluis as you
[06:56] <stevecam> m0ar, & exit
[06:57] <m0ar> ActionParsnip: Why not sudo nautilus?
[06:57] <und3rgr0undz3r0> Hey, I installed via wubi and then I uninstalled ubuntu but the grub4dos menu still pops up when I reboot, any suggestions on that one?
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> semitones: thats the right way but we need to edit the user settings so we run it without
[06:57] <ke1ha> Ahh Hide Join/Part msg's seems to have solved it thanks.
[06:57] <rww> ubottu: gksudo | m0ar
[06:57] <semitones> ActionParsnip, gotcha
[06:57] <m0nk3y> ActionParsnip: thank you very much :)
[06:57] <semitones> kelha: good :)
[06:57] <m0ar> stevecam: And without closing the terminal? :D
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> m0nk3y: not all apps need sudo etc. you will break your system if you do
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> m0nk3y: glad you got the gold
[06:58] <stevecam> m0ar, does it close the terminal when you run it?
[06:58] <stevecam> without  & exit
[06:58] <und3rgr0undz3r0> I removed my wubi but now its still there when I boot up my XP machine, anyone know how to get rid of it?
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> m0ar: sudo isnt made for x apps. it doesnt configure the enviroment correctly and you can screw up ownerships
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> m0ar: sudo is only for command line apps like ln, cp, mv etc
[07:00] <m0ar> stevecam: If I run gnome-panel it's run in the terminal, which renders it unusable for me until I close down the panels
[07:00] <juan_> sudo su
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> m0ar; gksudo / kdesudo are for x based apps like nautilus
[07:00] <Flannel> kdesu
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> juan_: sudo -s   is advised
[07:00] <m0nk3y> anyone know how to stop windows from going below the bottom panel on gnome in ubuntu 9.10 - i have a netbook so it's a really small screen
[07:00] <juan_> sudo -i
[07:00] <dsnyders> ActionParsnip, you could do sudo -i
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> flannel: isnt kdesudo a symlink to kdesu?
[07:00] <m0ar> How to move a program that's run in terminal, as in gnome-panel, to the background?
[07:01] <m0ar> Just shove it away from my sight
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> juan_: -s uses the users profile. -i uses roots
[07:01] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: kdesudo doesn't exist.  kdesu or gksu or gksudo (the latter two are linked)
[07:01] <juan_> use &
[07:01] <stevecam> &
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> flannel: gotcha
[07:01] <koshari> m0nk3y dunno about that but sometimes you jsut need to use alt key to drag partly off screen, othewist autohide the panel
[07:01] <stevecam> & moves it to background and exit will tell it to leave the terminal
[07:01] <m0nk3y> koshari: thanks i'll try that
[07:01] <stevecam> m0ar, "gnome-panel &"
[07:01] <vilkas> why there is no bitchx on the repositories? or i just dont know how to find it?
[07:02] <m0ar> stevecam: Not really, since I get a newline BEFORE gnome-panel starts :P
[07:02] <m0ar> stevecam: Aka, can't use the terminal
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> m0ar, "gnome-panel & exit" worked on my system...
[07:03] <m0ar> Oh nvm, after gnome-panel & I can ctrl-C the terminal :)
[07:03] <m0ar> ZykoticK9: That closes my terminal for me :P
[07:03] <ZykoticK9> m0ar, but it should start gnome-panel first then exit...
[07:04] <stevecam> m0ar, "gnome-panel &" will make it run as a background process, but as soon as you close the terminal the process will die, if you run "gnome-panel & exit" then it will run in the background and exit the terminal for you
[07:05] <lanks> hi guys my wubi install wont boot ubuntu so I am wanting to know if it would be possible for me to mount the wubi ubuntu disk on another ubuntu machine? if so what would the commands be? the two files are root.disk and swap.disk
[07:05] <tomatoes7> i'm trying to resize my partitions using gparted, but it doesn't like NTFS, and wont resize it
[07:05] <Jordan_U> lanks, Yes, it is possible. What happens when you try to boot from wubi?
[07:05] <m0ar> ZykoticK9: & = at the same time   && = afterwards
[07:05] <koshari> tomatoes7 install ntfsprogs
[07:05] <m0ar> && not working
[07:06] <lanks> it just goes in to grub and when i try "boot" it just says error no loaded kernel
[07:06] <juan_> too fragmented NTFS can cause problemz
[07:06] <ZykoticK9> m0ar, i never suggested && ???
[07:06] <stevecam> juan_, two not too?
[07:06] <m0ar> ZykoticK9: I just clearified, since you made a false statement :)  & doesn't do anything afterwards
[07:07] <ZykoticK9> m0ar, fair enough
[07:07] <stevecam> m0ar, && does something afterwards
[07:07] <Jordan_U> lanks, That's easy to fix manually, once you have Ubuntu booting would you mind doing additional testing of a proposed package update?
[07:07] <m0ar> Goodbye guys, have a nice day!
[07:07] <stevecam> also, >> appends to a file
[07:07] <dsnyders> tomatoes7, did you log out of windows or just hibernate?  If you hibernated, the partition is marked as busy.
[07:07] <ZykoticK9> m0ar, if you want to get "technical" the && mean after the first command successfully runs, run the next command
[07:08] <tomatoes7> windows is not running
[07:08] <m0ar> ZykoticK9: If you want to get techical, yes
[07:08] <lanks> no
[07:08] <lanks> how can i fix this?
[07:08] <fs002> how to find IRC channel for trade?
[07:08] <Jordan_U> lanks, I'm looking for the link now
[07:08] <lanks> ok thanks
[07:08] <fs002> who konws?
[07:08] <lanks> is it the one on ubuntuforums because ive tried that?
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> fs002, trade?  what's that?
[07:09] <dsnyders> tomatoes7, I understand that.  However, how did you end windows?  shutdown or hibernate?
[07:09] <Myrtti> !bitchx | vilkas
[07:09] <lanks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306846&page=3
[07:09] <mobius2> greetings
[07:09] <juan_> using irssi
[07:10] <archboxman> irssi all the way :)
[07:10] <fs002> ZykoticK9>:oh,such as alcohol tester buyer or sell
[07:10] <fs002> thinks
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> fs002, ?
[07:11] <mneptok> !offtopic | fs002
[07:11] <tomatoes7> dsnyders, shutdown
[07:11] <mneptok> tomatoes7: which version of Windows?
[07:11] <fs002> oh,sorry,i konw.
[07:12] <tomatoes7> windows7
[07:12] <mobius2> attempting independant / dual head with an M-275 gateway tablet laptop with an external LCD mitsubishi M55
[07:12] <mobius2> http://pastebin.com/m427267b6
[07:12] <mobius2> anybody got a decent xorg.... would save me some ciggs
[07:12] <tomatoes7> gparted is giving me issues trying to format an sd card as well
[07:12] <mneptok> tomatoes7: boot to Windows, and use the correct procedure for resizing an NTFS partition from there.
[07:13] <tomatoes7> mneptok, thats what i'm about to do
[07:13] <mobius2> merging partitions?
[07:13] <Jordan_U> lanks, I'm having connection problems here so I can't get the direct link ( and can't view that ubuntuforums link ), but look at comment #90 on this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104
[07:13] <ttestt> hello
[07:13]  * mobius2 listens to mr shadow : los gangstas
[07:14] <lanks> ok thanks
[07:14] <fs002> I just want search a IRC channel trade.
[07:14] <mobius2> I am surprised to see the level of decomplication required to envoke dual head
[07:14] <juan_> mp3blaster,bmon,mc,whowatch,rsstail,twidge,mrename,mtr-tiny,typespeed,cmatrix,calcurse,links.wicd-curses
[07:15] <Jordan_U> lanks, np
[07:15] <juan_> ups!
[07:16] <mobius2> have you guys ever heard what happens when you play a windows cd backwards?
[07:16] <ttestt> i'm trying to make working backend for cups to print to fax (through pdf), but when i'm trying to print, i see window with "Authintication required for printing", that has only one input box. nothing i input here doesnt work. what should i do?
[07:17] <rww> ubottu: ot | mobius2
[07:17] <shawnboy> Any programmers here?
[07:17] <juan_> shawnboy: not the channel
[07:17] <Jordan_U> lanks, Direct link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/477104/comments/90 And it is not the same suggestion as the top comment on that ubuntuforums link, but it is the same as the one recommended by the last comment on that page.
[07:17] <shawnboy> juan_: can u direct me?
[07:18] <mobius2> shawnboy, what are you doing?
[07:18] <rww> shawnboy: which programming language?
[07:18] <juan_> shawnboy: ubuntu-devel i think
[07:18] <juan_> python here
[07:18] <Junkyard> How do I configure apache2 daemon to stop running on system start?
[07:18] <Jordan_U> !boot | Junkyard
[07:18] <Junkyard> I dont want to manually stop it everytime
[07:18] <mobius2> grep the process name and kill it
[07:18] <shawnboy> I'm a procedural programmer wanting to dive into OO... wanting some opinions from Linux programmers about language to choose.
[07:19] <mobius2> then remember the running procs
[07:19] <shawnboy> and good resources to learn from.
[07:19] <rww> shawnboy: #ubuntu-offtopic might be of more help
[07:19] <ke1ha> and apache2 to init.d and checkconfig .. I think it's already there though.
[07:20] <juan_> !foo
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Junkyard: The easiest way imo is to use the sysv-rc-conf command/package, to disable apache2 for runlevel 2.
[07:21] <juan_> ./join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:21] <ke1ha> just delete / add the run-levels you want when you checkconfig, you don't have to go with defaults.
[07:23] <ke1ha> going to load lunbuntu, be back in a bit.
[07:27] <Speedy2> Hey all.  Is there a repository that has a 64-bit Firefox 3.0.17?  I found Firefox 3.5.7 to have strange UI-pausing but 3.0.17 works OK.
[07:28] <Speedy2> I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic).
[07:30] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[07:31] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, sorry ignore my last message :)
[07:32] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, i'm too accustomed to people asking for 3.6...
[07:32] <Speedy2> ZykoticK9: 3.5.7 was working OK, then I started to get issues where the UI would pause when I would click on anything in UI.  My machine is plenty fast.  I am running Firefox 3.0.17 from mozilla.org which works OK, but since it's i686, it gets screwed up with the gtk-qt theming engine.
[07:33] <tsimpson> :)
[07:33] <mneptok> tsimpson: yeesh. slow down. :)
[07:34] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, after many years of using Firefox I recently switched to Chrome - i'm liking it...
[07:35] <Speedy2> ZykoticK9: This maybe taboo but how do I add jaunty to my sources?  Just do jauny main restricted ?
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, i'd image - just be SURE to remove it after you install FF!!!
[07:36] <Speedy2> ZykoticK9: Big 10-4.
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, s/image/imagine
[07:39] <charles__> heya, folks. could anyone give me a rundown as to what the importance would be for setting ownership on a partition? if it's a personal computer for one person, there shouldn't be any point to it, since anybody physucally accessing your computer would have access to everything anyway, and it would be pointless against internet threats as well since whatever you had mounted would be vulnerable regardless.
[07:41] <gimpy530> So I just installed Ubuntu Server 9.10 x64 on another box and it refuses to boot.  the BIOS gets up to where it should hand of to GRUB but just sits there, no errors.  Partitions and boot flags are OK, boot sequence in BIOS (even which HD boots first) is OK.  Any ideas?
[07:41] <ZykoticK9> charles__, if you don't get an answer here try reposting to #ubuntu-offtopic as your question is not technically a support question
[07:42] <mark105> hi i have a slight problem with grub2, i had my computer setup with vista and installed ubuntu, worked mint, then decided to format the vista partition and install windows 7, sweet, booted from live cd and restored grub, sweet my grub boot menu is back, run update grub to update grub for windows 7 (windows 7 is on same partition as windows vista anyways). reboot and windows 7 wont load just gives me an error and i push any key and go b
[07:42] <mark105> ack to grub. any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:42] <Myrtti> charles__: that's the way Linux/Unix filesystems work, since the history of the operating system starts with big mainframes, computers shared by multiple people
[07:43] <Myrtti> charles__: it's easier to keep the peculiarities of the filesystem, since most of Linux boxes are still used as servers, than make an exception for the (for now) rare case of the computer being used by single person
[07:44] <charles__> Myrtti: oh, i understand that much, but i'm just asking if, as a regular joe with a PC, is taking ownership of a partition necessary.
[07:44] <Speedy2> ZykoticK9: OK!  That worked!  I backed up sources.list, repalced karmic with jaunty and firefox 3.0.17 came along for the ride :)
[07:44] <charles__> as in, would it cause any security risks should i not do so.
[07:44] <Myrtti> charles__: normal unix partitions don't have ownership. their subdirectories have.
[07:44] <ZykoticK9> Speedy2, nice!
[07:45] <Jordan_U> gimpy530, Can you try booting with super grub2 disk? Or possibly try reinstalling grub from a liveCD.
[07:45] <Geoffrey2> !wireless
[07:46] <Myrtti> charles__: and the unix security model keeps the root user separate from the basic user, which makes installation of viruses and rootkits a bit more difficult. Of course, if the user is unexperienced and given the powers of sudo, there's possibility for all kinds of catastrophes, but the basic premise still stands.
[07:47] <meowbuntu> hi i have installed pidgin facebook and restarted pidgin its not shoing facebook chat what is wrong???
[07:47] <charles__> Myrtti: aye, which is why i don't run around as root doing things. :)  the only question i have is if having a partition full of MP3s accessable by anyone is a particularly bad thing.
[07:47] <Chousuke> charles__: probably not.
[07:48] <Jordan_U> mark105, What error?
[07:48] <Myrtti> charles__: set things properly, and there won't be any danger.
[07:48] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, did you install facebook-chat from the repo or from the google-code site?  under Karmic i coudn't get the repo version to work, in Lucid it is though
[07:48] <Chousuke> charles__: as long as it's only mp3s though.
[07:49] <Chousuke> charles__: for any system files and user preferences you should have proper permissions
[07:49] <charles__> of course
[07:49] <meowbuntu> ZykoticK9, from syapatic then from terminal http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-facebook-chat-for-pidgin-in-ubuntu.html
[07:49] <meowbuntu> ^ with no resaylts
[07:50] <charles__> what brought this up was accessing my files from a live CD... i coudl get into my ubuntu install directories just fine, but i couldn't get into my MP3 drive which i had set "take ownership" for when i formatted it
[07:50] <rozbarwinek> hi
[07:50] <rozbarwinek> Could someone explain me why when I install some custom icons package in openSUSE 11.2 KDE 4.3 they don't replace icons in programs tab in KDE menu? I have even updated KDE to 4.3.5 but with same result, I have a same problem on my other 2 PC's :/
[07:50] <tp43> wtf the google os?
[07:50] <hyperstream> Question: when updates are applied to ubuntu, do they apply it to the main ISO for download ? or its a standard thing, and you must update it?
[07:50] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, i'd try uninstalling your current version and download the DEB from http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/ - best of luck
[07:50] <charles__> it made me realize that if somebody gets into my system, access to a mounted drive of MP3s is a forgone conclusion regardless of who "owns" it
[07:51] <Myrtti> rozbarwinek: this is #ubuntu, not #opensuse...?
[07:51] <Chousuke> charles__: yeah, filesystem permissions don't protect against physical access
[07:51] <rww> hyperstream: LTS versions of Ubuntu get "point release" updates every so often with updated ISOs. Other than that, updates aren't applied.
[07:52] <Chousuke> charles__: on single user systems they're mostly there just to prevent malicious or erroneous scripts from wreaking havoc and to mitigate any security holes in web browsers and such.
[07:52] <charles__> Chousuke: well, i couldn't access the partition from a liveCD, so that was something...
[07:52] <Chousuke> charles__: that was probably something unrelated to permissions
[07:53] <Chousuke> charles__: but if you really want to keep your data safe, encrypt it. :)
[07:54] <charles__> Chousuke: well, i went in and started checking different files, to see what i coudl adn could not access... everything i was denied access t was tagged as "owned" with various r/w/x permissions toggled
[07:54] <charles__> Chousuke: so it was obviously a permissions issue
[07:55] <hyperstream> rww, bugger ;/
[07:55] <hyperstream> rww, thanks.
[07:55] <mark105> Jordan_U: it just says "error: (some big mash of characters)" new line "press any key to continue" and goes back to grub, im not sure if this is a grub error or a windows 7 error though.
[07:55] <charles__> Chousuke: it just got me thinking that the only use for "owning" a drive partion would be to deny acess to other users on the same system. but i wanted to make sure there wasn't something else i wasn't thinking of.
[07:56] <Chousuke> charles__: right
[07:57] <Chousuke> charles__: traditional unix permissions are based on simple user ids, and if you can boot a livecd on a computer, you get to access things as root which has access to everything.
[07:57] <Buzza> How does the Ubuntu game server work and what time does it run i live in australia so i don't understand UTC when im AEST australian eastern standard time GMT+10.00
[07:57] <Myrtti> charles__: though, what filesystem do you have on the partition?
[07:57] <Chousuke> charles__: I think the ubuntu livecd uses the "ubuntu" user by default
[07:59] <Jordan_U> mark105, Interesting, AFAIK all of grub2's error messages are plain english, but at the same time I don't think there is a way to "return" to grub after grub has chainloaded the windows boot manager.
[07:59] <Buzza> anyone know how the Ubuntu game server works and what time does it run i live in australia so i don't understand UTC when im AEST australian eastern standard time GMT+10.00
[07:59] <bazhang> Buzza, game server?
[07:59] <indus> Buzza, what is ubuntu game server?
[07:59] <Buzza> hey i changed it back use easy bcd
[07:59] <indus> Buzza, THE one run by artificial intelligence of the forums?
[07:59] <Buzza> it's a game server for the members of ubuntu
[08:00] <edomeda> hey guys, can anyone tell me how I can add new themes to firefox 3.5.7 on ubuntu 9.10?  When I go to Tools > Add-Ons > Themes it only shows me default and "find updates"  no get more themes or add anywhere...
[08:00] <b4sakenxx> hey does anyone have experience running ubuntu on the newer netbooks?  got any recommendations?
[08:00] <mark105> Jordan_U: i think i may have fixed it, update-grub was not working properly, i needed to use grub-mkconfig, there was some string that grub has set for windows booting that was wrong
[08:00] <Buzza> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommunityGameServer
[08:00] <vilkas> how do i run irssi from the terminal
[08:00] <vilkas> i have downloaded it
[08:00] <meowbuntu> hi what formats will unetbootin work with fat 32 is limited. what about ext2,3,4 ????
[08:01] <Buzza> downloaded easy BCD?
[08:01] <charles__> okay, if a livecd uses root, which can access anything, then why does it not access drives i "take ownership" of when i format them? i went and tested it out with some new partitions i made, and none of them can be read once i take ownership...
[08:01] <Myrtti> vilkas: "irssi" . run it in screen if you wish to keep it perpetually running
[08:01] <meowbuntu> charles__, mount them first
[08:02] <charles__> can't
[08:02] <charles__> i click on the drive, it says i don't have permission.
[08:02] <bazhang> Buzza, you should ask in #ubuntu-gamers per the link you provided
[08:02] <charles__> i did 2 partitions. one i took ownership of, one i didn't. the "owned" one was totaly inaccessible.
[08:03] <Buzza> If you want to remove grub and replace it with windows boot loader goto this http://neosmart.net/downloads/software/EasyBCD/EasyBCD%201.7.2.exe
[08:03] <Buzza> after download run it and click boot loader
[08:03] <Buzza> then click reinstall windows boot loader
[08:04] <Buzza> easy
[08:04] <charles__> what i'm worried about is taking ownership of a drive adn not being able to use it if i reinstall or switch distros. but i also want to make sure my system is secure. so i wanted to find out WHEN and WHY i should take ownership of a partition.
[08:06] <Buzza> so creat a partion in windows and install linux on that partion with wubi then if you wan't to upgrade to a new release or another distro format the drive and install your new distro ect then you won't stuff up windows either if you make a mistake
[08:07] <Buzza> create
[08:07] <Buzza> sorry
[08:07] <asdfff> can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound? A lot of the ubuntu guides are written for those without sound upon install, but mine was working like 2 days ago :3
[08:07] <indus> asdfff, so what is the problem
[08:07] <asdfff> lol can't believe I didn't mention
[08:08] <asdfff> I can't get any sound to emit
[08:08] <asdfff> from my headphone out jack
[08:08] <charles__> Buzza: was that suggestion for me?
[08:08] <Buzza> yep
[08:09] <Buzza> well thats how i do it anyway!
[08:09] <charles__> Buzza: so my concern is wanting continued access to my files, but wanting to be secure... and the solution is to install linux inside of windows...
[08:09] <asdfff> oh lol!
[08:09] <asdfff> my sound works now
[08:09] <asdfff> nvm ^_^
[08:09] <airtonix> !enter | asdfff
[08:09] <asdfff> my deepest apologies
[08:10] <Buzza> yes though if you want to access your files linux has to be installed on a different partion
[08:10] <charles__> Buzza: i appreiciate the help, but i thought getting away from windows was part of the point of using linux...
[08:10] <Myrtti> charles__: installing ubuntu via wubi is the last way of doing it
[08:10] <Buzza> if you want to access files on windows that is
[08:10] <Myrtti> charles__: there await the dragons
[08:11] <meowbuntu> hi what formats will unetbootin work with fat 32 is limited. what about ext2,3,4 ????
[08:11] <Buzza> ok well if you wan't to go flat out linux then backup your files music movies games all the good stuff and do a complete install of linux
[08:12] <airtonix> charles__, i recommend putting /home on a separate partition from /
[08:12] <airtonix> charles__, its the same as poutting my docs on drive d:
[08:12] <charles__> i don't use windows anymore. i don't need access to my files in windows. all i need is to be able to use my files when/if i reinstall some flavor of linux, but also want to make find out if i should be clicking the "take ownership" option when i make a partition.
[08:12] <dandaman> so i just used http://cs.ucsb.edu/~hnielsen/cs140/cilk.html those instructions to install cilk++ but when i try using cilk++ i get this, "cilk++: command not found"
[08:13] <airtonix> charles__, then just put /home on a separate partition
[08:13] <Jordan_U> meowbuntu, If it's a large enough drive you may want to just do a standard install
[08:13] <charles__> that's basically it right there... should i take ownership of partitions... and if i do how do i keep access through reinstalls/distro changes
[08:13] <Buzza> why don't you take advantage of aernal hard driven ext
[08:13] <Buzza> an external
[08:14] <airtonix> charles__, "take ownership"? you mean when you install subsequent linux systems ? (i've not been presented with such an option)
[08:14] <meowbuntu> Jordan_U, i cant its portable hdd and i cant butn iso images last time i tryed i wasted 10-15 cds overall
[08:15] <charles__> no... i'm using ubuntu, when i do into the "disk utility" application and format a partition, it gives you the option to "take ownership of this drive"
[08:15] <Jordan_U> meowbuntu, You can put the iso on any file system you want and use grub2 to boot from it
[08:15] <Buzza> no i meant after install store your files on an external hdd aka a portable HDD
[08:15] <meowbuntu> Jordan_U, really how do you do that
[08:15] <meowbuntu> that would be handy to know
[08:15] <airtonix> charles__, i create my partitions at the time of a clean install
[08:15] <Jordan_U> meowbuntu,  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[08:16] <meowbuntu> thanks Jordan_U
[08:16] <Jordan_U> meowbuntu, np
[08:16] <airtonix> charles__, ie: from the live installer so i don't see that option...
[08:16] <charles__> okay, but what about a 100gig partition full of media files that you don't want to lose every time you reinstall...
[08:16] <charles__> ah, i see
[08:16] <airtonix> charles__, you dont have the option of getting another physical hard drive ?
[08:17] <charles__> *sigh*
[08:17] <Geoffrey2> Atheros chipsets...pretty well supported in Ubuntu?
[08:17] <Jordan_U> Geoffrey2, Yes
[08:17] <Buzza> i don't get all the distro's of linux though there is too many why not have just linux ubuntu then upgrades like kubuntu like microsoft has xp vista 7
[08:17] <airtonix> Buzza, because thats not freedom
[08:18] <Buzza> arg but there's not much difference with some of them\
[08:18] <airtonix> Buzza, you know this from first hand experience ?
[08:18] <Buzza> yep
[08:19] <kelvinella> different distro is like different brand of cars
[08:19] <airtonix> Buzza, also... offtopic.
[08:19] <Buzza> kubuntu has a nice GUI THOUGH
[08:19] <kelvinella> honda, toyota, nissan, etx
[08:19] <Buzza> i SUPPOSE MAKING A POINT!!!
[08:19] <kelvinella> kubuntu interface sucks compare to ubuntu
[08:19] <devrethman> Buzza: Kubuntu's gui is not superior to ubuntu's.
[08:20] <Buzza> it's verry simular
[08:20] <FeasibilityStudy> KDE rules
[08:20] <tsimpson> !offtopic
[08:20] <b4sakenxx> Buzza: finding the perfect disto is like finding the perfect car
[08:20] <Buzza> though the theme is nice and the wallpaper but you can change that\
[08:21] <b4sakenxx> Buzza: you wouldn't drive home a car with features you didn't like, or that lacked features you wanted would you?
[08:21] <Buzza> definatly not
[08:21] <charles__> Okay. This is what is going on. I have Ubuntu installed. I make a partition on another internal harddrive for MP3s (for example). I am given the option to "take ownership" of the drive, which means that I can access it from that install, but not from a liveCD or another user. I need to know if this is something I SHOULD be doing, and if I will still be able to access that partition should I reinstall Ubuntu later or switch to another d
[08:21] <charles__> istro. Because so far, my experience has been that I CAN'T access it from a liveCD, and I want to cover my bases before I lose access to an entire drive's worth of data.
[08:21] <tsimpson> Buzza: please take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:21] <Buzza> well im off anyway catcha
[08:21] <boo-boo> hi @ all, my java keeps crashing with firefox / opera on ubuntu 9.10 - 64 bit i allways have to sigkill java to get it even closet
[08:22] <boo-boo> any ideas?
[08:22] <b4sakenxx> charles__: if you reinstall ubuntu on the same drive its on, you should still have access to it.
[08:22] <b4sakenxx> sorry*
[08:22] <b4sakenxx> you should still have access to the mp3 drive
[08:22] <gimpy530> Whoever suggested re-installing grub for the problem I had, thanks, it worked
[08:23] <Jordan_U> gimpy530, np
[08:23] <b4sakenxx> charles__: it SHOULD autodetect your mp3 drive
[08:23] <charles__> b4sakenxx: even if i install a different linux distro?
[08:23] <b4sakenxx> charles__: yep
[08:23] <b4sakenxx> as long as you don't delete taht drive, it should autodetect
[08:23] <charles__> b4sakenxx: the drive is detected just fine from a liveCD, but i can't access it becuase the permissions are set to somebody else
[08:24] <b4sakenxx> yeah
[08:24] <charles__> i can SEE it, i can't USE it
[08:24] <b4sakenxx> and the settings won't save
[08:24] <b4sakenxx> b/c its booting from a cd
[08:24] <charles__> see, that's all i needed to know...
[08:24] <secret> Does anyone know how to initiate elements plugin for compiz fusion once its been enabed?
[08:24] <charles__> if i was never donig to have access from any other point, or if i just want' getting it from the CD
[08:25] <b4sakenxx> charles__: the only issue i would think you would have is the permission issue. once you install if you can't access it, all you need to do is take ownership
[08:25] <b4sakenxx> its normal
[08:25] <kelvinella> charles__, u have to mount the drive in liveCD to access it
[08:25] <b4sakenxx> charles__: kelvinella has a point there
[08:25] <charles__> i have stated multiple times that i could not mount the drive.
[08:25] <Jordan_U> charles__, You can always change the permissions later as root with sudo
[08:25] <b4sakenxx> tho it should auto detect and automount these days
[08:25] <kelvinella> charles__, what is the error?
[08:25] <charles__> i loaded up with a liveCD, i saw the drive, it woudl not let me mount it.
[08:26] <charles__> "permission denied" or something to that effect
[08:26] <kelvinella> sudo mount
[08:26] <b4sakenxx> you need to be root to mount it
	sudo mount
[08:26] <Jordan_U> charles__, From a liveCD you can run "gksudo nautilus" to view the files from a GUI, but you should be very careful when running nautilus as root
[08:26] <kelvinella> i can mount all my hd in liveCD
[08:26] <almark1> I'm trying to get a version of Ubuntu called 64 studio to allow me to use xorg.conf, but when I config it my mouse is gone. And so I have to delete the xorg again to get mouse function, what can I do to get it work?
[08:26] <charles__> at this point, i'm almost positive i tried that, but after stating my issue worded a dozen different ways... i'm not sure WHAT i've actually tried anymore :D
[08:26] <almark1> I know Ubuntu doesn't allow xorg so where is the config files to manually fix in Ubuntu?
[08:27] <airtonix> kelvinella, so why won't gvfs allow him to mount it (which mounts things under a folder in the home folder)
[08:27] <devrethman> almark1: what do you mean we don't allow xorg?
[08:27] <TiMiDo> can someone help me with this error http://pastebin.ca/1789903
[08:28] <airtonix> charles__, are you using terminal to mount it or just double clicking on the drive you see in nautilus at computer://
[08:28] <almark1> when I use xorg.conf everything is fine but my mouse is missing, all I see is the arrow, I can't move it
[08:28] <kelvinella> charles__, what command did u try?
[08:28] <b4sakenxx> charles__: if you are worried
[08:28] <charles__> i'm going to get a glass of juice, and give this another shot. thanks for the help folks. (hopefully it really is just a root access issue and i was blinded by proximity and frustration)
[08:28] <Jordan_U> almark1, Ubuntu allows an xorg.conf it just doesn't have one by default
[08:28] <kelvinella> charles__, and what was the error code?
[08:28] <b4sakenxx> charles__: i would suggest formating at mp3 drive as fat32 or NTFS
[08:28] <b4sakenxx> that way you can always access it from a windows install
[08:28] <b4sakenxx> just a thought
[08:28]  * airtonix lols
[08:28] <Jordan_U> almark1, And 64 studio is not a version of Ubuntu
[08:28] <charles__> <--- does not sue windows
[08:28] <almark1> and I have read that ubuntu doesn't use xorg anymore but you can make one yes, where are the config files in a Ubuntu server so I can fix the mouse thing or at least know what driver its using
[08:28] <charles__> *use
[08:28] <almark1> I know
[08:29] <almark1> but they use Ubuntu from within
[08:29] <devrethman> almark1: mouse drivers are pretty standard. Have you tried thie mouse in the liveCD or any other OSs?
[08:29] <almark1> I know its not supported by Ubuntu so I was just wondering ;)
[08:29] <almark1> yes
[08:30] <almark1> and it worked, you see what I want to do is use both my monitors for dual display, both work in this system but only at one time
[08:30] <almark1> and so I wanted to use xorg to fix the monitor problem
[08:30] <Jordan_U> almark1, No, 64 studio is based on Debian, and Ubuntu is based on debian. But this channel would still not be the correct place to ask questions about a non official Ubuntu derivitive
[08:30] <TheMusicGuy> Is it "safe" to check the integrity of an external hard drive using a bootable CD running inside a virtual machine?
[08:30] <almark1> but when I use it the mouse locks up because its a totally different config then this system wants
[08:30] <almark1> true
[08:31] <almark1> would debian be using a different way to config mouse settings ?
[08:31] <almark1> because the xorg was blank so I pulled my working xorg.conf from another partition to get it to work
[08:32] <almark1> I will check out debian thanks :)
[08:32] <KurtKraut> TheMusicGuy, I wouldn't rely on it. There is an aditional and unexpected layer between the hard disk and the software doing the analysis. This may lead to false negatives.
[08:32] <TheMusicGuy> KurtKraut: oh, ok.
[08:32] <TheMusicGuy> KurtKraut: Is there a tool I can use to check the integrity directly?
[08:33] <TheMusicGuy> ie. while linux is still running?
[08:33] <devrethman> TheMusicGuy: you mean like fsck?
[08:33] <Linux-CLI> hi
[08:33] <Jordan_U> TheMusicGuy, System > Administration > Disk Utility will check the smart data
[08:34] <TheMusicGuy> devrethman: I don't know if fsck can do exactly what I need it to do. I'm trying to check to see if the device is physically broken.
[08:34] <devrethman> TheMusicGuy: I think fsck does that, assuming the disk has an FS that there is an FSCK for, but I'm not positive. Anyone else know for sure?
[08:35] <Jordan_U> devrethman, fsck just checks that the file system is sane, it will only detect hardware problems if they lead to filesystem corruption
[08:35] <ke1ha> The best source for true disk checking utilities are the drive MFG's themselves. Most offer extended disk analysis tools for their drives.
[08:35] <iflema> almark1  rename old xorg.conf > cd /etc/X11 and then sudo Xorg -configure
[08:36] <TheMusicGuy> Right now I'm running fsck.ext3 -c -y /dev/sdd3, and occasionally a whole bunch of buffer i/o errors will be printed at once.
[08:37] <Jordan_U> TheMusicGuy, Sounds like a hardware problem then
[08:37] <Jordan_U> TheMusicGuy, If you have important data on that drive back it up as soon as possible
[08:38] <TheMusicGuy> See, its actually an IDE drive inside an enclosure, which is connected to my computer through USB, so I'm not sure whether its a problem with the drive itself or the enclosure.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> TheMusicGuy, Again, System > Administration > Disk Utility will let you see the smart monitoring data which should tell you more precisely what is going wrong
[08:39] <Lint01> how to get grub menu on startup?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> Lint01, Hold down shift
[08:39] <TheMusicGuy> Jordan_U: Okay, but I'm just trying to find some backup options in case that doesn't work
[08:40] <TheMusicGuy> I can't do it now because fsck still has a long way to go
[08:40] <Gryphon1> Hi im having problems with ubuntu
[08:41] <Lint01> evryone does,go ahead
[08:41] <devrethman> Lint01: I don't.
[08:42] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I probably will check the mfg's website (SeaGate). I'm thinking its probably a hardware failure, but I want to be sure before ditching the drive because its fairly large and not that old.
[08:42] <devrethman> TheMusicGuy: For what it's worth, I've lost a lot more enclosures than drives.
[08:43] <TheMusicGuy> (large = high capacity)
[08:43] <mode83> 0000
[08:43] <TheMusicGuy> devrethman: really? huh.
[08:43] <Gryphon1> my processor is constantly at 100%
[08:43] <devrethman> Yeah> i've only ever lost one drive, and lost 3 or 4 enclosures.
[08:43] <meowbuntu> hey is it possable to change an ext4 partition back to an ext3 without loosing the data stored there.
[08:43] <Lint01> my rc-sysinit process seems to hang, what can cause this?
[08:44] <devrethman> meowbuntu: I'm pretty sure no, but depending on how it's set up, you can sometimes mount an ext4 as an ext3
[08:44] <Lint01> meowbuntu: yes, if you didn't enabled ext4-specifix functions
[08:44] <ke1ha> TheMusicGuy: http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/troubleshooting_assistance/
[08:45] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: oh, heh, thanks
[08:45] <TheMusicGuy> saves me some time
[08:45] <Richlv> ubuntu installation (/etc/debian_version reports lenny/sid), fully upgraded - i can get apache repeatedly crashing. apache logs contain only "[notice] child pid 21982 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)"
[08:45] <meowbuntu> Lint01,  how can i find out if i did
[08:45] <Richlv> any guidelines on how to obtain as much useful information for a bugreport ?
[08:45] <Richlv> i looked at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CrashReporting - that wasn't very helpful
[08:46] <xiong> I'm starting to get frustrated myself. All I want is to burn my entire system to DVD. I've tried several utilities now and none seem to be able to figure out whether they're likely to succeed before wasting a disc + plenty of time.
[08:46] <ke1ha> They have an External USB Drive Troubleshooter ... does not look like they have a Native linux app.
[08:47] <xiong> I've read all the obvious info and quite a bit of obscure info on the topic. I don't understand -- I don't really believe -- how nobody can have written a decent DVD backup utility.
[08:47] <meowbuntu> Lint01, i have just been using my hdd as usual i dont know if i actually enabled ext4 stuff unless it has done it automaticly
[08:47] <ke1ha> How much data do you have to backup ?
[08:48] <Gryphon1> A Richlv, have any idea how to fix my processor constantly at 100%
[08:48] <Lint01> meowbuntu: use debugfs <device> to find out
[08:49] <Gryphon1> ye how?
[08:49] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: 22+ GB
[08:49] <Richlv> Gryphon1, i just joined the channel. i'm haivng a problem with apache segfaulting myself. why would you approach me ? :)
[08:50] <TheMusicGuy> The data has already been backup up, and the most important parts of the data is very redundant...risk of permanent loss is minimal.
[08:51] <TheMusicGuy> But its not my data. I'm doing this for my sister. I have to make sure its as safe as possible.
[08:51] <Gryphon1> i have also just joined myself and dont know what to do, know any one?
[08:51] <ke1ha> Hmm .. I assuming you need to span that backup. Backup's of that size are normally done to other disk arrays, you could always rsync it, bz2 or 7zip it probably get down to 1/2 to 1/4 of that size.
[08:51] <Gryphon1> that knows
[08:51] <theadmin> Gryphon1: Did what to yourself?
[08:51] <Lint01> Richlv: head to apache support?
[08:52] <GeppyZ> Hi all. is it appropriate to ask questions about problems with installing ubuntu trough wubi on windows 7 x64?
[08:52] <ke1ha> Unless it's mostly binary media files.
[08:52] <TheMusicGuy> mostly, yes
[08:52] <theadmin> GeppyZ: Well, yes, but AFAIR wubi has it's own support
[08:52] <Gryphon1> got online theadmin!
[08:52] <meowbuntu> hoe do see a device list in terminal
[08:53] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I think I'm going to have to convince her to buy a new external backup drive. :P
[08:54] <theadmin> Why does "Ubuntu Firefox modifications" ruin many other addons?
[08:54] <Lint01> is there a way to tell which files on my system had been changed?
[08:54] <secret> I have installed the elements plugin and I have enabled it, but how do I activate it?
[08:54] <ke1ha> Two apps I have used in the past are Amanda and mondorescue they both backup to DVD's. Your probably better off with an external HD
[08:54] <mrpink57> meowbuntu: the ls command can do this check the man page
[08:55] <secret> anyone?
[08:55] <theadmin> !anyone
[08:56] <Leoneof> hi, i used Storage Device Manager and changed some properties in partitions, now my partitions wont ask about password, and everyone can access it, how to make it as default like before?
[08:56] <theadmin> secret: Don't ask twice or ask such useless phrases as "anyone?", if nobody knows, nobody answers
[08:56] <ttestt> can anyone help with problem like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1249318
[08:56] <secret> sorry
[08:56] <ke1ha> If I recall, Amanda can use Samba, so if you have another box in the LAN, you could just back it up to a shared folder.
[08:56] <mrpink57> Leoneof: my guess is the permissions where changed, you will need to change them back, read: chmod
[08:56] <theadmin> secret: Never mind. Nobody ever reads the guidelines for some reason :/
[08:57] <Leoneof> mrpink57: i'm beginner -_-
[08:57] <secret> How can I acticate my own key combination in CCSM?, I have chosen them but I can't initaiate them
[08:57] <mrpink57> !chmod
[08:58] <gerry__> @ubottu I believe it's usually because the second question takes longer to type and think about. :P
[08:58] <mrpink57> Leoneof: read about it there
[08:58] <Leoneof> mrpink57: thank you
[08:59] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I've been using rsnapshot for my own laptop's backups. Of course, my backup drive is a 80GB SATA in an enclosure, and my home partition is 100GB, so I'm limited in how much I can actually back up.
[08:59] <Lint01> is there a way to tell which files on my system had been changed?
 hola
 resulta que mi disquetera no funciona y no me detecta cd
 y mi bios no me da la opcion de arrancar desde usb
 me pueden ayudar a habilitar esa posibilidad en mi computadora
[08:59] <Gryphon1> Dose anyone know why a processer would constantly be in use?
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Lint01, Which files, since when, and in what way?
[08:59] <mrpink57> Gryphon1: because the computer is on...
[08:59] <theadmin> Gryphon1: Run "top", see what processes consume most CPU, close those
[09:00] <gerry__> beat me to it
[09:00] <dandaman> Gryphon1: trying to calculate more digits of pi maybe?
[09:00] <mrpink57> Gryphon1: you can also run htop to see the highed used
[09:00] <Gryphon1> i have, its over loaded
[09:00] <ke1ha> I'd tar tgz the whole drive  to that location then. if you use max compression, it should not be that bad.
[09:01] <secret> sergi: When you go in to your bios what are the boot options?
[09:01] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: can rsnapshot compress automatically? And is that safe?
[09:01] <TheMusicGuy> compressed data is harder to recover if it gets corrupted.
[09:02] <ke1ha> Ummm have to check, not used it, but most any sync / archiver uses some level of compression.
[09:02] <Lint01> Jordan_U: files that was installed by package manager
[09:03] <TheMusicGuy> "compress" does not appear in the man page.
[09:03] <sergi> cd
[09:03] <sergi> hard disk
[09:03] <sergi> floppy
[09:03] <sergi> network
[09:03] <Gryphon1> mrpink57: how do i run htop and what is its use?
[09:03] <TheMusicGuy> I'm going to take a look at Amanda.
[09:04] <theadmin> Gryphon1: Just go to terminal, type "htop" and hit enter (if it's not installed, you will get instructions on how to install it by running that)
[09:04] <Gryphon1> thanks
[09:04] <ke1ha> just read the man page, does not talk about compression, but it's good for incremental BU's
[09:05] <TheMusicGuy> yes, it uses hardlinks to reduce space consumed
[09:05] <mrpink57> Gryphon1: open a terminal and type htop
[09:05] <ke1ha> tar the whole thing then bz2 or gzip it.
[09:05] <gerry__> mrpink57, cheers for the tip about htop. I knew hopping in here as a lurker would pay off. :)
[09:05] <Jordan_U> Lint01, There are different ways you can check what files have been modified and how, which to use depends on why you want to know. What is your end goal?
[09:05] <theadmin> mrpink57: Beat you to it :D
[09:06] <ke1ha> 7zip is supposed to have the best compression these days, although I've just started using it on UM builds.
[09:07] <Lint01> Jordan_U: I need a list of all files created by package manager which were modified after creation
[09:08] <sergi> hay alguna aplicacion para que la bios te de la opcion de arrancar desde usb?
[09:08] <Gryphon1> Who knows how to get a 4th generation ipod to work on Ubuntu?
[09:08] <mrpink57> couldnt you grep "pattern" "files" something like that?
[09:09] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: you're taking about compressing 60GB+ of data, most of which is binary media, at regular intervals. Is it even possible to do that without the archival/compression process taking the better half of a day?
[09:10] <Jordan_U> Lint01, Why? I can't give a good answer without knowing.
[09:10] <TheMusicGuy> I mean, I'm sure there's a way, but how can it be done with tools like tar/gzip/7zip?
[09:10] <ke1ha> Sure, although we think 60+ GB is' allot, think of it in terms of DVD, 60GB is not very many 8GB DVD's it is.
[09:10] <gerry__> TheMusicGuy, when you said "it uses hardlinks" were you talking about Amanda?
[09:11] <Lint01> Jordan_U: how am I supposed to answer this question? also 'modified'='content changed', not just modification date
[09:11] <mrpink57> TheMusicGuy: I have seen some command scripts on Ubuntu forums on doing system backups to bzip2.
[09:11] <TheMusicGuy> gerry__:  no, rsnapshot
[09:11] <gerry__> ah cheers
[09:11] <ke1ha> Granted, your compression ratio wont be stellar on binary data, but it will still archive it.
[09:12] <meowbuntu> hoe do see a device list in terminal i cant follow the first step in this tutoral there si no room on device ?????
[09:12] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I have no idea where to even begin with a project like that...
[09:12] <meborc> meowbuntu: type "lspci" in the terminal
[09:12] <ke1ha> If it's critical data, or things you can't afford to loose, a hardware solution is the right answer.
[09:13] <anodesni> I start empathy, but there is no window showing up. Where is it?
[09:13] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: what do you mean a "hardware solution"?
[09:13] <theadmin> anodesi: Check tray for icons
[09:13] <Jordan_U> Lint01, Possible options are etckeeper, dpkg log and bzr log of source packages, doing a diff from a fresh install and others. I refuse to explain all of them, and they all have different advantages and limitations.
[09:13] <anodesni> oh, it is this envelope
[09:13] <meowbuntu> meborc, then
[09:14] <ke1ha> Its pretty easy these days. UB supports all sorts of SATA RAID cards. get 3 1TB drives, but then on a SATA RAID CARD and you good to go.
[09:14] <meborc> meowbuntu: then what? i mean... lspci will give you the list of devices... i thought that was the problem
[09:14] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: O_o
[09:15] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: first, I don't know what a RAID card is, second, I certainly can't afforce 3 TB.
[09:15] <TheMusicGuy> *afford
[09:15] <Lint01> Jordan_U: are you kidding me? I'm not gonna install a second system for this
[09:15] <gerry__> TheMusicGuy, TB drives are pretty damn cheap now
[09:15] <ke1ha> Or you could use SW RAID, but that is a bit more risky. Disk drives are cheap these days. You can create LVM's RAID's Mirrors all with a few key clicks in UB.
[09:16] <TheMusicGuy> gerry__: I've also heard they're unstable
[09:16] <Jordan_U> Lint01, That's only one of the multiple options
[09:16] <Gryphon1> mrpink57: do you know how to get a 4th generation ipod to work on Ubuntu? or what program i could use?
[09:16] <gerry__> TheMusicGuy, I hope not :)
[09:16] <meowbuntu> meborc, no ther is not enough room to do it
[09:17] <mrpink57> Gryphon1: no, i do not own a ipod
[09:17] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: ahh, slow down. You're blowing my mind with terms. I'm a programmer, not a hardware engineer! :D
[09:17] <meowbuntu> meborc, read the first step it has specific instructions.
[09:17] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: but thank you for your help so far, nonetheless. :D
[09:17] <ke1ha> One of my Ubuntu File Servers are just a bunch of drives in an LVM. granted, there's not back up for that, but I back up smaller boxes to it and it was cheap, already had the drives.
[09:17] <mneptok> Gryphon1: when you lug it in, does it appear in Rhythmbox?
[09:17] <mneptok> *plug
[09:18] <Gryphon1> yes mneptok
[09:18] <ke1ha> LVM is a Logical Volume ( Logical Disk )  that cna be 1,2,3,4 et etc drives.
[09:18] <Lint01> Jordan_U: how dpkg log can help here? if it is impossible, just say so
[09:19] <Gryphon1> but i cant put music on it
[09:19] <meowbuntu> meborc, here is the resault http://pastebin.com/d547cd91e
[09:19] <mneptok> Gryphon1: so what feature is not working?
[09:19] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: don't you need a dedicated server for that?
[09:19] <Gryphon1> every thing
[09:19] <meowbuntu> meborc, i should mention the external usb hdd i have is ext3 atm
[09:19] <meborc> meowbuntu: sorry, can't help you... i'm also lost now :)
[09:19] <mneptok> Gryphon1: clearly wrong, as you say it appears in Rhythmbox
[09:20] <ke1ha> Doesnt' need to be "deticated" .. just any UB box, and do a simple Samba share.
[09:20] <sergi> actualizar la bios me ayudaria a arrancar desde usb?
[09:20] <mneptok> Gryphon1: it is being recognized. it is being recognized as a music player. so what are you trying to do that does not work?
[09:20] <ke1ha> Just have to be able to spin up the drives.
[09:20] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: what is UB?
[09:20] <Gryphon1> it come on rhythmbox, but thats all it dose
[09:20] <ke1ha> Ubuntu
[09:20] <TheMusicGuy> oh.
[09:20] <TheMusicGuy> :)
[09:21] <mneptok> Gryphon1: can you copy music to and from it? if not, what is the error message you get?
[09:21] <ke1ha> It could be one disk, and a Simple Samba Share .. that technically is a file server.
[09:21] <Blastur> if i have a program that results a list of files, one path per line, how can i easily make shell command that cats each of those?
[09:22] <Blastur> i tried "myprog | cat" but that didnt work
[09:22] <Gryphon1> there is no error message, it wont copy music on to the ipod, when i did get it on it did not show up on the ipod
[09:22] <ke1ha> Bash loop for i in $n .. do something.
[09:23] <mneptok> Gryphon1: run "df -h" and tell me the mount point of the iPod
[09:24] <Myrtti> !es | sergi
[09:24] <Gryphon1> mneptok, it seams it only works on iTunes
[09:24] <Blastur> thanks!
[09:24] <Jordan_U> Lint01, It may not be possible to easily do what you want, or it may be almost trivial, or somewhere in between depending on what you really want to accomplish. Please read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#goal . If you do not want to give more information then I am sorry to say I can't help you further, your question as stated is hard but not impossible to accomplish. It is not worth my time or yours for me to explain the steps required to
[09:24] <Jordan_U> do so when it is likely the wrong approach to solving your actual problem.
[09:24] <chrisp> pa.fl.us.undernet.org
[09:25] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: clearly I'm going to have to research this. It would be nice if I could set up a network backup server of some kind, but I really don't have the $$$ for the hardware I need for any real useful solution ATM. I have to make do with existing drives, possibly making use of DVDs.
[09:25] <Gryphon1> how do i run "df-h"????????????
[09:25] <meborc> Gryphon1: type it in terminal... hit enter
[09:25] <mneptok> Gryphon1: Apps > Accessories > Terminal
[09:25] <mneptok> Gryphon1: no quotes
[09:26] <TheMusicGuy> Gryphon1: make sure its df -h  (with a space after the "f")
[09:26] <ke1ha> Samba is your friend on limited resources, just create a shared drive on any Local LAN PC and you've got a simple file Server  / Backup location.
[09:26] <acuster> hey all, sound recorder works fine but none of the im's pick up on my audio: ekiga/pidgin/empathy. How do I get started debugging things?
[09:26] <acuster> I've been through the 'tipical sound problems' page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems/KarmicCaveats
[09:27] <indus> what is the ubuntu qa channel
[09:27] <ke1ha> I would share the biggest drive you have, and use rsync to copy sync the files over your LAN.
[09:27] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: do you think it would be possible to set this up on a router, ie. using custom firmware?
[09:28] <ke1ha> Baring in mind, rsync will only ensure they are equal, if you need incremental backups, there's loads of Bash scripts for doing that.
[09:28] <TheMusicGuy> and some kind of usb/ethernet controller?
[09:28] <Gryphon1>  mneptok it mounted on /media/ipod
[09:28] <ke1ha> well, unless your on Dialup to this IRC, you've got a LAN already of some sort.
[09:29] <mneptok> Gryphon1: ls -l /media/ipod
[09:29] <mneptok> Gryphon1: who owns the mount point?
[09:29] <TheMusicGuy> yeah. My router runs DD-WRT, and I've successfully ssh'd into it once or twice.
[09:30] <ke1ha> if you can SSH to a box on your router, you can do just about anything you need.
[09:30] <Gryphon1> mneptok: /dev/sdb1
[09:31] <mneptok> Gryphon1: ls -l /media
[09:32] <ke1ha> the Ubuntu docs on Samba shares are pretty good. Follow them for settigng up a simple shares drive / folder.
[09:32] <mneptok> Gryphon1: you'll get something like "drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-09-10 17:17 cdrom0" and i want to know what it says in the "root root" bit
[09:33] <mneptok> Gryphon1: not for cdrom0, but for the iPod
[09:34] <Lint01> Jordan_U: which part of my question did you not understood or which additional information do you require? It's rather clear in my opinion
[09:35] <ke1ha> TheMusicGuy: yes, you need to be able to connect form one PC to the other somehow.
[09:35] <Jordan_U> Lint01, I'm sorry, I can't help you.
[09:36] <Gryphon1> There is nothing like"drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2009-09-10 17:17 cdrom0"
[09:36] <indus> does kopete have yahoo voice and webcam support
[09:36] <mneptok> Gryphon1: ipod
[09:37] <om26er> indus, google it
[09:37] <mneptok> Gryphon1: you type "ls -l /media" (no quotes) and press <enter> and it should have a line about the ipod
[09:37] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[09:37] <indus> om26er, well, that can be done by everyone, then whats the point of coming here
[09:37] <indus> om26er, you think i havent googled it already?
[09:37] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: this sounds like an involved project. I'm going to need to...
[09:37] <mneptok> !google | om26er
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> 1.) mount a samba share _permanently_ either to or from each of the PCs that want to back up their data,
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> 2.) get my router to connect to the backup drives (somehow),
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> and 3.) install software either on the router or on each of the PC's to be backup up to perform some kind of incremental and/or compressed backup automaticallt
[09:38] <tom967> hi
[09:38] <indus> just wanted to know , if anyone has info if the newer version has more functionality
[09:38] <indus> !kopet
[09:38] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: do I have that right?
[09:38] <indus> !kopete
[09:39] <ke1ha> TheMusicGuy: it's not really, it just sounds like it. In facts it's about 5 or six comman line arguments, and a few lines in smb.conf.
[09:40] <TheMusicGuy> Oh, and I should probably figure out this LVM thing while I'm at it, assuming I can get ahold of some more backup drives. (It's possible, but unlikely.)
[09:40] <ke1ha> yes, you need a router that you can connect 2x computers to, wired is better for this, the Add Samba to share a folder, that's it really.
[09:40] <Gryphon1> mneptok;is that it or should i copy the other stuff? lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     7 2010-02-01 09:49 floppy
[09:41] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: hmmm. well, okay.
[09:41] <mneptok> Gryphon1: is the iPod plugged in and mounted?
[09:41] <Gryphon1> Yes it is.
[09:41] <mneptok> Gryphon1: then "ls -l /media" should have a line about the iPod
[09:42] <ke1ha> Its a far better solution than DVD's, although DVD's could be used, it's not generally considered the best method.
[09:42] <Gryphon1> drwx------ 9 byron byron 8192 1970-01-01 02:00 BYRON lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     6 2010-02-01 09:49 cdrom -> cdrom0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root  root  4096 2010-02-01 09:49 cdrom0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root  root     7 2010-02-01 09:49 floppy -> floppy0 drwxr-xr-x 2 root  root  4096 2010-02-01 09:49 floppy0  thats every thing.
[09:43] <mneptok> Gryphon1: did you use this iPod on a Mac or on Windows?
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> btw, wireless is kind of required atm. I know wired would be faster and more stable but there is really only one computer in the house that can be connected wired all the time.
[09:43] <TheMusicGuy> and its pretty old.
[09:44] <ke1ha> Wireless is ok, just do do a 60GB backup while your trying to use the network for anything else, or it will be pretty slow.
[09:44] <ke1ha> oops just dont do ..
[09:44] <linkiduu> hi
[09:44] <Gryphon1> No i tryed it on linux first then when it did not work i put it on windows.
[09:44] <linkiduu> I am getting errors while compiling hydra gtk
[09:45] <mneptok> Gryphon1: unplug the iPod. look in the Settings menu. the last item should be "Format" or something.
[09:45] <ke1ha> Old is ok for the File server, processor power is not needed for a file server, just stable.
[09:46] <motaka2> i have created a .deb package of php 5.3 but it seems to take so long to install is that normal
[09:46] <mneptok> Gryphon1: and you just bought this? from where? is it new?
[09:46] <yudi> kontol
[09:46] <linkiduu> I am getting errors while compiling hydra gtk.please help
[09:46] <ke1ha> In fact, Xubuntu is a good candidate for Older hardware, runes with less resources.
[09:46] <indus> whats difference between xubuntu and ubuntu other than light weight, i mean is there something i cannot do with it?
[09:47] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: I think I'd rather have the router be the server (if possible) because I know it will be on all the time.
[09:47] <psycho_oreos> indus, xubuntu simply has xfce frontend instead of gnome
[09:47] <om26er> indus, no you can do everything in any desktop environment
[09:47] <ke1ha> dont even need the GUI version, Xubuntu or Ubuntu server installs would be ideal.
[09:47] <ke1ha> then SSH to the box for whatever you need.
[09:47] <TheMusicGuy> yes.
[09:47] <Gryphon1> from the uk a month ago and its still new
[09:47] <secret> How do I make myu 3d sphere transparent, at the moment it just shows my wallpaper all around
[09:47] <indus> ok , i have 384 mb ram, and i was wanting to install xubuntu, it doesnt have open office i think whhich i dont use anyway
[09:48] <indus> does skype install on xubuntu ?
[09:48] <om26er> indus, yes sure
[09:48] <Gryphon1> in settings at the its reset settings
[09:48] <mneptok> Gryphon1: is it formatted for Windows, or Mac?
[09:48] <ke1ha> A router, is just that, it routs things, unless you add a NAS (network attached storage), which is a whole other ball of wax, your file server needs to be another box.
[09:49] <linkiduu> I am getting errors while compiling hydra gtk.please help
[09:49] <korya> hi all
[09:49] <linkiduu> hi
[09:49] <Gryphon1> how do i cheak?
[09:49] <indus> ok 1 question, how do i open links in chrome instead of firefox from irc
[09:49] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: does the router have a USB port that supports mass storage controller functionality?
[09:50] <psycho_oreos> indus, you'll need to set chrome as a default browser
[09:50] <mneptok> Gryphon1: it's in the iPod menu system
[09:50] <linkiduu> indus: make chrome the defautl browser
[09:50] <indus> from where do i set it?
[09:50] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: a router is just a computer. It has RAM, internal (nvram) storage, a CPU, and in this case, MANY network interfaces.
[09:50] <simplechat> random question, is there any reason why volume would start off as 0?
[09:50] <ke1ha> undus: im running Xubuntu on a D400 Laptop right now on a VM install, runs real well, no issues.
[09:50] <simplechat> ie. boot up, no volume and the control is set to 0
[09:50] <DJones> simplechat: Does it get muted every time you shut down
[09:51] <linkiduu> System> Preferences > Preferred Applications
[09:51] <Gryphon1> stupidity is over coming me, Where?
[09:51] <ke1ha> only has 300MB deticated to the XB OS
[09:51] <simplechat> It shouldn't be
[09:51] <simplechat> DJones, i don't set it to mute when i turn it off, but its muted when it starts up
[09:51] <motaka2> how long doesit usually take to install a deb package on ubuntu
[09:51] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: It does not have USB, but I've seen devices that can be used to make a couple of USB drives act like network file shares.
[09:51] <indus> motaka2, 1 min
[09:51] <DJones> simplechat: Have a look post 7 on this bug report, I had that bug and it's what I did to solve the problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libao-pulse/+bug/455357
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: hang on, I'll find a product listing.
[09:52] <indus> ok done thanks
[09:52] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: do those devices have drivers supported by your router's firmware?
[09:52] <ke1ha> Well, a computer can be a router, but generally, a router cannot be a computer.
[09:52] <om26er> motaka2, depends on the size of file and speed of the computer. its quick
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: the firmware is dd-wrt.
[09:52] <TheMusicGuy> If it doesn't have the drivers, I can install them.
[09:53] <ke1ha> Umm, not exactly. What type of router do you have ?
[09:53] <motaka2> om26er: I HAVE DEB PACKAGE OG PHP5.3 AND IT IS INSTALLING FOR MORE than 15 mins, is there something wrong with it?
[09:53] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: oh, really? what if the only drivers provided are for Windows?
[09:53] <TheMusicGuy> mneptok: Why would I need special drivers for a standard transfer protocol like SMB?
[09:53] <indus> ok , i want a super quick desktop but with a slick look, iam not happy with gnome
[09:54] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: how do you plan to connect the disks?
[09:54] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: you do not have USB. CAT-5 is not an IO option for hard disks.
[09:54] <mneptok> TheMusicGuy: you either need a pre-rolled NAS solution or you need to create one yourself.
[09:55] <TheMusicGuy> The device has an ethernet port and two usb ports. You plug the drive(s) into it and presents them to the network as file shares.
[09:55] <ke1ha> You can add NAA to a router without a computer attached to it, as the NAS has an embedded OS, but that's about the only way I know how to turn a router into a FS, but then again, it's not the router serving content, it's the NAS
[09:55] <ke1ha> oppps.. can add NAS
[09:56] <Gryphon1> mneptok and TheMusicGuy any useful advice about my ipod problem?
[09:57] <mneptok> Gryphon1: what format is it? Windows or Mac?
[09:57] <theadmin> indus: Quick and sleek are quite... opposite
[09:57] <TheMusicGuy> what is your ipod problem? (bear in mind I know little about interfacing linux with ipod)
[09:57] <mneptok> Gryphon1: go and look. look through the menus.
[09:57] <indus> theadmin, well,windows 7 is both
[09:58] <Gryphon1> which one in particular
[09:58] <ke1ha> yeah, I agree, quick is usually not real cool look'en, sleek usually takes up some resource.
[09:58] <opakavic> rumpsy, where is he?
[09:58] <mneptok> Gryphon1: i don't own an iPod. do a Google search.
[09:58] <ObsidianX> is there a way to install xorg without all of the superfluous drivers that the virtual packages seem to require?
[09:58] <theadmin> indus: Did you even _try_ running 7 at 512MB ram? It's slower then anything
[09:58] <indus> theadmin, i have another system 2 gb so its running dapper :)
[09:58] <ke1ha> FluxBox is a real lightweight Desktop .. as is Xface.
[09:59] <Gryphon1> it looks like MAC
[09:59] <indus> theadmin, so yes i understand your point,
[09:59] <theadmin> ke1ha: XFCE, not XFace
[09:59] <ke1ha> Unfortunaly, Gnome, KDE all = Lots of stuff :-)
[09:59] <indus> theadmin, i have a system with 384 ram, but i find windows xp looks better than xfce
[09:59] <motaka2> checkinstall command not found!   what should i do?
[09:59] <theadmin> indus: Yes...
[09:59] <skydrome> Hi, Im trying to add usrquota support to my /home partition > after i edit the fstab how do activate it?
[09:59] <indus> but i think i havent seen the newer xfce
[09:59] <mneptok> Gryphon1: then that's your problem. Mac-formatted iPods have numerous show-stopping issues in Linux. reformat it for Windows.
[09:59] <indus> maybe it looks better
[09:59] <ke1ha> Yeah, I know XFCE :-)
[09:59] <mneptok> Gryphon1: take it to an Apple store and they will do it for you.
[10:00] <ke1ha> The Mouse Face :-)
[10:00] <ObsidianX> oop, got it. just had to launch the installation from a driver
[10:00] <theadmin> indus: It's quite ugly actually... Well, GNOME is the best for me. Fast AND nice :D
[10:00] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[10:00] <indus> theadmin, :D
[10:00] <indus> theadmin, i think nautilus takes too much time to open the folders
[10:00] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha, mneptok: I know someone who is currently using DD-WRT on a router to serve files over the internet. It's that's possible, it shouldn't be hard to allow local filesharing through smb.
[10:00] <opakavic> !rumpsy
[10:00] <indus> theadmin, i just installed xp yesterday and its a snap
[10:00] <Gryphon1> ok mneptok what contry are you in?
[10:01] <mneptok> Gryphon1: USA
[10:01] <indus> something wrong with gnome it seems like
[10:01] <ke1ha> DD-WRT, who makes that router ?
[10:01] <mneptok> ke1ha: DDWRT is firmware
[10:01] <opakavic> rumpsy is not helping me :(
[10:01] <Gryphon1> well i am in Zimbabwe and there are no ipod stores hear.
[10:01] <monkeydust> how do i get kradioripper to connect to a stream to record it?
[10:02] <mneptok> Gryphon1: so do a Google search for "reformat ipod windows" and follow the steps
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: the router is a Linksys WRT54G series router.
[10:02] <ke1ha> Firmware embedded to hardware ?
[10:02] <titan_ark> hey is it possible to install chrome on ubuntu?
[10:02] <DJones> titan_ark: Yes
[10:02] <titan_ark> or another browser besides FF?
[10:02] <titan_ark> DJones, without wine
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> It's a special type that has 8MB of internal flash storage.
[10:02] <indus> actually i hear kde is faster ,and of course it looks so gorgeous i can almost weep
[10:02] <TheMusicGuy> (more than other models in the series.)
[10:03] <ke1ha> Right, Im not up speed on this DD-WRT firmware, I have a Linksys Game-Fuel router. But know of no way to make it a file server.
[10:03] <indus> but i prefer gnome for simple menus, and kinda got used to the apps
[10:03] <DJones> titan_ark: yep, I use either Chromium or Chrome, they're both available in ppa's, although not officially supported yet
[10:03] <theadmin> titan_ark: There is a Linux version of Chrome. Opera also has a Linux version
[10:03] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: it basically just runs busybox linux with special software to access the router's...well, routing features.
[10:03] <titan_ark> DJones, okay, could u help me add it?
[10:03] <Gryphon1> Ive reformated the ipod 3 times, it works on windows but i use linux and i want to get it to work in linux
[10:04] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Samba_Filesystem
[10:04] <theadmin> titan_ark: Just... chrome.google.com and download the package from there
[10:04] <ke1ha> Yeah, Ok, how does it deal with Disk I/O ?
[10:04] <titan_ark> theadmin, i remember trying opera but it does not support flash right?
[10:04] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: it would have to mount using samba.
[10:04] <titan_ark> theadmin, ah, i was hoping for a way via console :P
[10:04] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: that's where the fileshare device I mentioned comes in.
[10:05] <monkeydust> can any one tell me how to get Kradioripper to connect to shoutcast stream?
[10:05] <ke1ha> Pass, I'd have to read up on that, as Im using Ubuntu server SW for allmost all my LAN funcitons.
[10:05] <llutz> ke1ha: there are a few 3rd-party firmwares for home-routers being able to use that router as NAS/fileserver
[10:05] <Gryphon1> So mneptok: whats the States like?
[10:05] <DJones> titan_ark: I used http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel#TOC-Linux with either the beta/dev channel, dev channel is slightly less stable but I've not had problems with it, if you pick the beta channel, it'll add a google repository then you can just add google-chrome via synaptic
[10:06] <titan_ark> DJones, cool thx a bunch. i downloaded it from the site
[10:06] <ke1ha> Now that's diffrent, if the firmware makes it a NAS, then yes, I suppose it's possible, but it's gonna need an OS even an 8MB OS could be possible.
[10:06] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Hitachi+-+SimpleNet+USB-to-Ethernet+Adapter/9362021.p?id=1218091958703&skuId=9362021&st=ethernet%20usb&cp=1&lp=5
[10:06] <DJones> titan_ark: Don't forget that it isn't officially supported, so if you have problems, you might not always get support in this channel
[10:06] <llutz> ke1ha: dd-wrt is embedded linux-os
[10:07] <TheMusicGuy> Ha! It actually SAYS that it's linux-compatible. That's pretty rare to see.
[10:07] <llutz> ke1ha: dd-wrt on my asus wl500gp: Linux router 2.4.37 #5193 Thu May 21 01:18:07 CEST 2009 mips unknown
[10:07] <titan_ark> DJones, yeah :) thx for reminding. i am a FF user by default, never used Opera on windows either :P just want an additional browser so thought il try it
[10:07] <ke1ha> ok, well I dont know enough about DD-WRT to comment furthele.r on that. But if you can get Samba on your router embedded OS< then I suppose it's possib
[10:07] <theadmin> titan_ark: FF is the best. It actually is the only Ubuntu browser on which flash works without problems
[10:08] <llutz> ke1ha: theres a lot of other stuff you _could_ run with dd-wrt, but not all makes sense (to me)
[10:08] <titan_ark> theadmin, well i cant say i have no flash problems on FF in ubuntu. but it was bug free in kde.
[10:09] <ke1ha> I've never had a need to but that load onto a router, so iv'e not go down that path. I want the router busy routing, not file serving.
[10:09] <ke1ha> If I wanted the router & file server on one box, I'd put it on a Cmputer with 2 NICS>
[10:09] <Gryphon1> mneptok: are you also using UBUNTU?
[10:09] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: After samba is set up, I still need to determine the best way to set up automatic backups for each PC. Should it be initiated by the server (the router), or should it be initiated by each client on its own time?
[10:09] <ke1ha> and a switch of course.
[10:10] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: use cron-jobs on clients if they don't run 24/7
[10:10] <ke1ha> Backups = Simple Incremental or sync script. Use crontab for scheduling.
[10:11] <ke1ha> Incremental sill take up more room, but give more restore options, rsync, fast and  mirris the source tree.
[10:11] <mneptok> Gryphon1: of course
[10:11] <ke1ha> oops mirrors the source tree.
[10:12] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: look at rsnapshot
[10:12] <mneptok> Gryphon1: but that's off-topic. you should go and learn how to reformat that iPod for Windows
[10:12] <TheMusicGuy> At least one of my systems will be running windows; I can't use a purely linux solution
[10:12] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: there's rsync for windows too
[10:12] <Gryphon1> Thanks for the help
[10:12] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: rsnapshot too?
[10:13] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: idk, no windows to backup here :)
[10:13] <mneptok> Gryphon1: np. good luck.
[10:13] <ke1ha> rsnapshot is good for incremental BU's like we talked abt earlier. What's the goal of the back up ?
[10:13] <Gryphon1> But i still want to get it to work on Ubuntu!
[10:14] <mneptok> Gryphon1: it will, once formatted for Windows
[10:14] <TheMusicGuy> To prevent a lot of important data from being lost once all these old machines I have finally die. :D
[10:14] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: http://www.stillnetstudios.com/snapshot-backups-howto/
[10:15] <ke1ha> ok, but do you need multiple restore points, does the data change dynamically ? or is it primarily static data ?
[10:15] <Gryphon1> Sure thanks
[10:15] <TheMusicGuy> ke1ha: its a bit of both.
[10:16] <TheMusicGuy> I guess a large portion of it is static, but there are some things that get changed regularly.
[10:16] <ke1ha> well I'd say rsnapshot or rsync then.
[10:16] <Pupeno> I need to add copyright information to lot's of files... any ideas how to do it without having to open file by file?
[10:16] <ke1ha> cat >>
[10:17] <TheMusicGuy> If I use rsnapshot, I basically just point its backup location to a mount point that is a network drive and then use it as usual, correct?
[10:17] <ke1ha> Bash for i in $n ... cat >>
[10:17] <DocPlatypus> are there any known issues with Lucid where a system sits at the login screen with a spinning mouse cursor?
[10:18] <DocPlatypus> failing that... where can I see exactly what is causing my system to hang there
[10:18] <DJones> DocPlatypus: You'll be better asking that in the Lucid support channel #ubuntu-1
[10:18] <DocPlatypus> DJones: thanks
[10:18] <ghostlines> my paritions id is 83(ext3) but it's type still isn't recognized when i try to mount it
[10:18] <DJones> DocPlatypus: You'll be better asking that in the Lucid support channel #ubuntu+1 (I mean)
[10:18] <ghostlines> any ideas anyone
[10:19] <ke1ha> I'd read up on rsnapshot and test it to makes sure you understand all it's features / functions and ensure it meets your needs.
[10:19] <Pupeno> ke1ha: is that for me?
[10:19] <TheMusicGuy> ah, I just read that it only runs on linux.
[10:19] <TheMusicGuy> hm.
[10:20] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: continue reading
[10:20] <llutz> "....Rsnapshot only runs on Linux, but you can easily backup any machine running any OS with it......"
[10:20] <motaka2> can anyone help me upgrading php5.2 to php5.3 on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[10:20] <ke1ha> Yeah, use a simple for each Bash loop toe cat the copywrite into to the end of each file.
[10:20] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: that doesn't make sense...
[10:21] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: read how it works, then it will make sense
[10:21] <ke1ha> assuming there test, binary may be a diffrent story.
[10:21] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: erm, I'll keep reading.
[10:21] <Pupeno> ke1ha: copyright information generally goes at the top. I need it at the top.
[10:21] <ke1ha> opps assuming they are text files...
[10:22] <ke1ha> at the top, well, that can be done too, but I'd have to think on that one a bit.
[10:22] <llutz> Pupeno: cat file >> copyright.msg
[10:22] <llutz> (text only)
[10:23] <llutz> Pupeno: then just wrap a mv/copy around and you have it
[10:24] <Quan-Time> anyone know a .jpg batch resizer ? for resizing like 20+ images.. ?
[10:24] <llutz> Quan-Time: convert
[10:24] <ke1ha> id' do an expect or something like that Pupeno ( ex - coptywrite<<! ) something like that in a loop.
[10:24] <Quan-Time> llutz: awesome.. cheers
[10:24] <Chousuke> convert may be a bit tricky to use though :P
[10:24] <llutz> Quan-Time: package is "imagemagick"
[10:24] <Chousuke> mostly because it has approximately eleventy billion different options
[10:24] <Chousuke> and finding the right one requires careful reading of the manual page :)
[10:25] <ke1ha> wow, we need to get on some Ubuntu topics .. :-)
[10:25] <llutz> Chousuke: -resize AxB
[10:25] <Quan-Time> llutz: there a gui for it ? or all command based ? not a huge issue, but yer ;)
[10:25] <Chousuke> llutz: hehe.
[10:25] <sergi> my floppy drive does not work and is incompatible with my bios boot from usb, how can I solve this problem?
[10:25] <llutz> Quan-Time: i don't know any
[10:27] <Chousuke> Quan-Time: for i in *.jpg; do convert -resize AxB ${i}.jpg ${i}-resized.jpg; done
[10:27] <ben_q> Hello, can anyone help me with starting an ad-hoc wirless connection? when I click on "connect to hidden wireless network" I can choose the network I set up, but I cannot click the connect-button. it's deactive. anyone know why that would be?
[10:27] <Joundill> I need help with tvtime or MythTV and xawtv, I can get sound from my tuner with xawtv, but no sound with tvtime or mythtv. Can anybody help me?
[10:27] <Chousuke> Quan-Time: might want to run that with echo in front of the convert first
[10:30] <llutz> Chousuke: ... convert -resize AxB "$i" ${i//.jpg}-resized.jpg
[10:30] <sergi> Is there any to boot from usb without bios support?
[10:30] <theadmin> sergi: No. If BIOS does not support USB boot, you can't do this.
[10:30] <Chousuke> llutz: ah, some bash magic I see :P
[10:31] <Diverdude> For some reason when i have installed emacs using the packet manager it has installed an old version...version 22.2.1...(even though i did it recently)...the newest version is 23.1 How come packet manage did not install the newest emacs?
[10:31] <nixjr> my webcam apparently supports videos of upto 1600x1200, but the program cheese webcam booth, only lets me select upto 640x480
[10:31] <llutz> or ${i#*.}-resized.jpg
[10:32] <Chousuke> Diverdude: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:32] <TupoyVolk> nixjr: Same thing with webcammax.
[10:32] <Chousuke> Diverdude: 23.1 is in the repositories for karmic
[10:32] <sergi> and if I update the BIOS might solve the problem or give me the option to boot from usb, I read that Windows has an application for it.
[10:32] <DJones> Diverdude: Are you using Karmic or an older version
[10:32] <Chousuke> oh wait.
[10:32] <nixjr> TupoyVolk, im nto sure, this the first ive evre used a webcam in linux, ill install that priogram now and test it
[10:32] <ke1ha> just go into your /etc/bashrc and change it to what you want command-line and GUI for your defaults.
[10:32] <Chousuke> apparently not
[10:33] <TupoyVolk> nixjr: webcammax has the same problem. + isn't opensource
[10:33] <iceroot> ke1ha: ~/.bashrc
[10:33] <Chousuke> the version string for emacs is "23.1+1-4ubuntu2+22.2+0ubuntu6"... I wonder what that's supposed to mean :P
[10:33] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[10:33] <nixjr> TupoyVolk, ah sorry, i misread that as a question not a statement, this this is a limitation of the software?
[10:33] <DJones> Diverdude: The latest version in the repo for Jaunty is 22.2, so if you're using Jaunty, that'll be latest version available
[10:34] <Chousuke> Diverdude: try and see if you can install it from the "emacs23" package
[10:34] <ke1ha> yeah, for the current user ... for all users created change the adduser bashrc or just add it to your profile
[10:34] <Diverdude> DJones, but 22.2 is like way old...2 years old...newest version is 23.1 which is half a year old
[10:34] <TupoyVolk> nixjr: Yes, I have no idea why. it's frustrating, on the software that comes with the camera (for windows at least) you can use the max resolution.
[10:35] <Chousuke> Diverdude: it's at least in the karmic-updates repository
[10:35] <Diverdude> Chousuke, should i then uninstall my old emacs first?
[10:35] <Chousuke> Diverdude: shouldn't matter. you can have both installed at the same time
[10:35] <sergi> I have acer aspire 1640Z if I update the BIOS can boot from usb?
[10:35] <teffers> hey anyone got stepmania 3.9 working on 9.04 im tryign to compile sourcecode but havign a problem with it missing opengl librarys and or course the ubuntu package need libavcodec which is now depriciated
[10:35] <Chousuke> Diverdude: of course, if you aren't going to use 22, then go ahead and uninstall it :)
[10:35] <nixjr> TupoyVolk, im thinking of setting up the camera to take snapshots every few seconds for a few days, there are many program that do this, or ones that take single shots i could write scripts for, do you have any reccomendations?
[10:36] <angrynerd> is it possible to boot from live cd without having a harddisk??
[10:36] <Chousuke> angrynerd: should be.
[10:37] <theadmin> angrynerd: Yep, should be
[10:37] <angrynerd> can i then plug in the messed up harddisk after booting from live cd to format it?
[10:37] <theadmin> angrynerd: Yeah
[10:37] <teffers> hey guys on anyone nto so busy as to help[ me
[10:37] <teffers> ???
[10:37] <angrynerd> ok great
[10:37] <teffers> and brb
[10:37] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: I've spotted a couple issues: 1.) rsnapshot requires a filesystem supporting hardlinks, and I don't think samba supports that, 2.) the file server must initiate the backup process, which means backups will be missed for clients that aren't connected at the time the backup starts
[10:37] <Chousuke> you can't plug in a hard drive while the system is running... unless it's USB or unless it supports hotswap :P
[10:37] <ke1ha> yes, you'd just need to create a mount point for the drive.
[10:38] <TheMusicGuy> llutz: the second one may or not become a problem
[10:38] <ke1ha> well true, needs to be a USB deal or have it installed at boot the mount it.
[10:38] <angrynerd> chousuke why what happens then?
[10:39] <rumpsy> i'm here :)
[10:39] <Chousuke> angrynerd: well, it MIGHT work but I wouldn't dare try :P
[10:39] <Chousuke> angrynerd: why can't you just boot with the HD plugged in? :/
[10:40] <TheMusicGuy> I kinda need something that can do incremental backups over samba.
[10:40] <sergi> someone can help me solve my problem please, I want my usb bootable bios, but it gives me that option
[10:40] <TheMusicGuy> I need to go, though. Sorry.
[10:40] <rumpsy> sergi: ?
[10:40] <llutz> TheMusicGuy: checking for clients being online can be done by a simple cron-job. hardlinks in samba.. no idea
[10:40] <l700bluetooth> Last time I checked was May 2009. Does the ralink rt2860 chipset supports master mode now? I mean can it be used as an AP?
[10:41] <ke1ha> I would not do it after the systems booted unless it's like Chousuke said, it's a hot swapable setup.
[10:41] <angrynerd> windows7 messed up my harddrive I cant even get to the bootmanager when the hd is plugged in
[10:41] <rumpsy> sergi: Give us a clear view
[10:41] <Chousuke> angrynerd: which boot manager? :/
[10:41] <sergi> my bios does not give me the option to boot from usb, as I fix this please?
[10:42] <ke1ha> Well, you dont need the boot manager for the LiveCD, but does the drive allow you to get to the LiveCD?
[10:42] <angrynerd> no bootmanager, I mean it freezes at the bios cant boot from cd nor access the bios setup
[10:42] <theadmin> sergi: Buy a new computer. You can't "fix" that
[10:42] <Chousuke> angrynerd: hm.
[10:42] <rumpsy> sergi: so what kind of error message you get?
[10:42] <angrynerd> when I remove the hd it works just asks for boot device
[10:42] <Chousuke> sergi: see if there is a bios upgrade available
[10:42] <ke1ha> That sounds more like a physical fault v.s. a BM fault.
[10:42] <Chousuke> sergi: other than that, not much you can do about it.
[10:43] <Chousuke> angrynerd: can't you borrow a USB case from somewhere?
[10:43] <barf> Anyone got a recommendation for an SSD? How can the trim function be called from command line? Need 8-32GB
[10:43] <Chousuke> angrynerd: I mean, plugging things into a running system not designed for that is rather risky.
[10:43] <Chousuke> angrynerd: who knows how the hardware will react?
[10:43] <ke1ha> Intel MX25 SSD or the Micron SLC
[10:43] <angrynerd> hm ok I'll buy one chousuke
[10:44] <ke1ha> works great with Ubuntu :-)
[10:44] <Sargun> how do I find out who maintains a specific package
[10:44] <ke1ha> That doesn't sound right though angrynerd .. normally if the MBR is hosed up, the CD will still fire up.
[10:44] <theadmin> Sargun: Check the Launchpad, I believe
[10:45] <maco> Sargun: nobody does
[10:45] <maco> Sargun: ubuntu does not have specific people maintaining specific packages
[10:45] <Kohar> sergi did you check new firmware for youre bios?
[10:45] <sergi> no error message I get just one out the possibility of hard disk, CD, floppy and USB network and does not leave
[10:45] <barf> Here is the smallest one from my local dealer: http://www.netshop.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=125864
[10:45] <maco> Sargun: the MOTU maintain universe & multiverse. the core devs cover everything
[10:45] <barf> ke1ha: How to run the trim function?
[10:46] <angrynerd> kelha i know no one believes me but I found many ppl with the same problem asus notebook + windows 7
[10:46] <barf> Is there a package with tools?
[10:46] <ke1ha> trim ... in what excell :-) ?
[10:46] <regis> ?
[10:46] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[10:46] <barf> ssd trim
[10:46] <Chousuke> barf: why would you run trim manually?
[10:46] <barf> I have no clue
[10:46] <Chousuke> barf: the OS should take care of that.
[10:47] <sergi> The problem is that you update the bios from Ubuntu, as I do?
[10:47] <barf> Just getting to know how it will affect my day
[10:47] <ke1ha> Oh I don't know... not into it that far. Just used a friends box the other day that had a pair of the SLC's in it, man the thing was fast !!
[10:47] <barf> update BIOS from Ubuntu?
[10:47] <Chousuke> barf: I don't think it even makes sense to command the drive directly. you'll just mess up the filesystem :/
[10:47] <barf> oki
[10:48] <ke1ha> I ordered a  couple last week for another project, so will be testing over the next few weeks.
[10:48] <meowbuntu> ging!askkl
[10:48] <meowbuntu> !askkl
[10:48] <barf> ke1ha: Which did you order?
[10:49] <n00p> guys, I have this entry "ifupdown (eth2)" in my wired network connections config... it appeared after I did something stupid, that's really my wireless connection. how do I get rid of it?
[10:49] <ke1ha> I got the MX's ..
[10:50] <theadmin> How do I install .emerald themes?
[10:51]  * n00p waits patiently for a response
[10:53] <ke1ha> barf: SSDSA2M160G2XXX
[10:53] <llutz> n00p: have you changed eth2 settings at /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:54] <Lint01> is it a support channel or some club chat?
[10:54] <xiong> OK. I have just completed full, duplicate backups onto DVD of my entire filesystem (with a few deliberate and obvious omissions). I'm about to repartition and clean install of 9.10. Obviously, the benefit of this will be lost if I then reinstall everything from DVD.
[10:54] <n00p> llutz: I added it to that file yes, to access my wireless which now due to my bitching mother (who doesn't pay a cent to access the internet she was bitching about not being able to access) bitching about the internet... anyway, should I remove it?
[10:54] <theadmin> Lint01: Support channel. Offtopic chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:55] <xiong> So, how should I organize my reinstall? And what last-minute info should I stash in USB thumb drive?
[10:55] <ke1ha> Sound, NIC and VID Driver Iinfo.
[10:56] <onaogh> n00p, respect your mother
[10:56] <theadmin> Lint01: If you don't get your question solved here, try ubuntuforums.org
[10:56] <ke1ha> only the last few upgrades I've done, NIC and VID has been real good, but had a fair few issues with ALSA.
[10:57] <n00p> onaogh: no, I respect her, but I think she's a bitch. If she hadn't bitched about her computer not having access (when she doesn't even pay anything) then I wouldn't be bitching about my computer not having access... maybe I should just cut the internet and get a wireless chip just for this computer... she can pay for it
[10:57] <grub_problems> i have just noticed that in windows "C:\ubuntu\disks\boot\grub" directory is empty.  is that wrong?
[10:57] <theadmin> !language | n00p
[10:57] <n00p> theadmin: are you offended?
[10:57] <theadmin> n00p: Eh, not me. Just follow the rules.
[10:58] <DocPlatypus> n00p: profanity is out of line in a help channel. just as a general rule
[10:59] <n00p> anyway, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me install my bcm43xx... the only drivers that worked (without crashing the entire PC and causing me to reinstall -- will not accept suggestions to change drivers!) are the ones that are installed currently, and they worked using iwconfig to set up the configuration... but iwconfig doesn't support WPA2/PSK and my mother's stupid computer relies on that for some stupid reason so I had to reconfigure the
[10:59] <n00p> s/install/connect to the wireless network
[11:00] <theadmin> what the heck. Adress bar in Firefox dissapeared o_O
[11:00] <theadmin> ...Got it back :D never mind. Creepy.
[11:01] <Apust1k> miten saa kirjautettuu kaverin ulos linux
[11:01] <ke1ha> I had one today, when I booted Xubuntu, after dist-upg, it would let my user log in, but let them log in as other.
[11:01] <theadmin> !fi | Apust1k
[11:02] <ke1ha> opps it would not let ..
[11:02] <ke1ha> been scouring the Bug lists for that one, have seen anything yet.
[11:03] <n00p> so I removed my wireless device from /etc/network/interfaces, "ifupdown (eth2)" (my wireless with a weird name) still shows up in network manager as a "wired device"...
[11:03] <Jimi_Neutral> hi all, i have just downloaded gFTP. I cant find it though under applications. How do I start it?
[11:04] <ke1ha> should start from a terminal until you make a link .. just type gftp
[11:04] <barf> How can I install ubuntu from memory stick?
[11:05] <DJones> !usb | barf
[11:05] <theadmin> !unetbootin | barf
[11:05] <koshari> barf use unetbootin, and hope your PC supports booting from it
[11:06] <barf> unetbootin?
[11:06] <barf> What is that?
[11:06] <ke1ha> yeah, be prepared for a lengthy install though, those USB drives can really slow tings down.
[11:06] <koshari> Jimi_Neutral the default place for the launcher is under internet also
[11:06] <barf> I just bought new machine
[11:06] <theadmin> barf: see http://unetbootin.sf.net
[11:07] <ke1ha> Are you wanting to install from USB, or install too USB ?
[11:07] <barf> Usually when I make a bootable memory stick, I just have to do dd if=OS.iso of=/dev/memorystick
[11:08] <n00p> guys can I get some advice regarding my mysterious "ifupdown" in network-manager-gnome GUI that can't be removed due to a disabled 'delete' button?
[11:08] <barf> then do another dd to patch the first sectors
[11:08] <barf> n00p: cat /etc/network/interfaces
[11:08] <n00p> nothing
[11:08] <n00p> I cleared it
[11:08] <DJones> barf: If you already have an ubuntu machine, you can use USBCreator from the menu which does everything for you
[11:08] <barf> n00p: I don’t know the GUI
[11:08] <shutupbitch> hello everybody!!!!!
[11:09] <n00p> thanks for your input. anyone who does know the GUI and the console know how to remove this network connection?
[11:09] <shutupbitch> rip off the wires.
[11:10] <n00p> uhh
[11:10] <ke1ha> remive it form /etc/network.interfaces
[11:10] <n00p> ke1ha: from where?
[11:10] <n00p> you mean
[11:11] <ke1ha> .. it's late .. remove it from /etc/network/interfaces...
[11:11] <n00p> /etc/network/interfaces
[11:11] <n00p> ----I already did!----
[11:11] <shutupbitch> ubuntu sucks.
[11:11] <rob_p> !ops
[11:11] <DJones> !ot | shutupbitch
[11:11] <barf> DJones: I have several ubuntu/debian alternate installs and also some Mac workstations
[11:11] <ke1ha> did you restart your network ?
[11:11] <nixjr> does using "complete removal" in synaptic, remove all the dependencies?
[11:12] <n00p> ke1ha: "restart your network"? what good would that be? the problem lies in network-manager-gnome!
[11:12] <Myrtti> nixjr: no, it removes all the config files
[11:12] <ke1ha> --autoremove --purge does.
[11:12] <n00p> and yeh, I restarted my entire machine
[11:12] <n00p> many times
[11:12] <unimatrix> does gnome-panel in Ubuntu Karmic support RGBA yet ?
[11:12] <n00p> that doesn't seem to do anything.
[11:12] <ke1ha> Ok., pass, can't help ya.
[11:12] <DJones> barf: In that case, I'd be tempted to download whichever iso you want to use (Live CD/Alternate etc) and use the USB creator to do the work, I've never had a problem using that
[11:12] <mand> hi
[11:12] <maco> unimatrix: of course. has for years
[11:12] <n00p> thanks for trying. anyone want to ask some new questions regarding my problem?
[11:12] <erUSUL> nixjr: no; it removes configuration files in /etc/
[11:13] <maco> unimatrix: as long as i can remember, youve been able to choose a transparency level when picking the colour
[11:13] <unimatrix> maco: are you sure, because when i enable it it's sort of broken
[11:13] <mand> i've configured my x-window-manager alternativ to sawfish and i've deleted my ~/.gnome2/session file to start with a fresh session, but gnome still uses metacity and does not execute x-window-manager
[11:13] <mand> why?
[11:13] <unimatrix> maco: that's not RGBA
[11:13] <maco> unimatrix: A = alpha = transparency, yeah?
[11:13] <grub_problems> can someone give me a grub.cfg file?  mine dissapeared....
[11:14] <unimatrix> maco: yes, but that's just the solid background color
[11:14] <_lenin_> hello all i have som problem with grub.  when i boot i see next message
[11:14] <_lenin_>        [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported.   For
[11:14] <_lenin_>          the   first   word,  TAB  lists  possible  command
[11:14] <_lenin_>          completions.  Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
[11:14] <_lenin_>          completions of a device/filename. ]
[11:14] <FloodBot4> _lenin_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <_lenin_> grub>
[11:14] <Jimi_Neutral> Ok i have started gFTP and changed the conf file to enable a remote pc access. What will the user and passowrd be cause it didnt ask me to set one
[11:14] <unimatrix> maco: colors support RGBA, not the panel
[11:14] <maco> unimatrix: in that case i'm confused. what?
[11:15] <Slart> unimatrix: the panel doesn't support transparency yet .. at least not on my 9.10 install
[11:15] <unimatrix> maco: http://www.cimitan.com/blog/wp-content/rgba-murrine-170208.png
[11:15] <unimatrix> Slart: thank you
[11:15] <Slart> unimatrix: I'm not sure I should add the "yet" even... I'm starting to think it's not even on the roadmap =/
[11:15] <maco> Slart: wait so what's this not-a-colour transparency?
[11:16] <maco> Slart: how can rgba refer to anything *but* colours?
[11:16] <unimatrix> Slart: they've promised general RGBA support for Lucid, so i think it is
[11:16] <maco> unimatrix: but lucid will have the same version of gnome as karmic
[11:16] <Slart> maco: the panel will only do a blend between the solid background.. it won't show windows behind it and such
[11:16] <erUSUL> unimatrix: i can make the panel transparent easily on the properties>background> (compiz enabled)
[11:16] <Tm_T> _lenin_: sorry again
[11:16] <maco> unimatrix: at least, i think it will... cuz lucid's not going to gnome 3
[11:16] <patrick_> hi
[11:17] <maco> Slart: aah ok. so unimatrix wants *true* transparency
[11:17] <patryk_> hi
[11:17] <unimatrix> erUSUL: that's not the same, it will make everything transparent, RGBA mode doesn't make the icons and text transparent, only the background
[11:17] <n00p> in my "wired connections" I have "Auto eth0" and "ifupdown (eth2)"... eth2 is actually wireless and it was placed there after messing around trying to get the bloody thing to work. The "delete" button is disabled when I highlight "ifupdown"... Does anyone know how I can remove this?
[11:17] <unimatrix> maco: that's right
[11:17] <Slart> maco: or rather.. it will show you the background wallpaper (not just solid color) .. but not windows and such..
[11:17] <Slart> maco: yes
[11:17] <erUSUL> unimatrix: Slart ok you are right it does not show windows behind it. is fake transparency
[11:17] <theadmin> n00p: There are key-like icon in networkmanager. Did you hit that?
[11:18] <maco> Slart: it didnt occur to me that windows could go behind the panel.
[11:18] <unimatrix> erUSUL: no, that's not what true transparency is
[11:18] <n00p> theadmin: the delete button -is- enabled for auto eth0
[11:18] <Slart> maco: then you haven't made it big enough =)
[11:18] <n00p> and there is no keylike icon for me
[11:18] <maco> Slart: made what big enough?
[11:18] <erUSUL> unimatrix: i'm agreeing with you
[11:18] <Slart> maco: the panel =)
[11:18] <phimic> hi all
[11:18] <theadmin> n00p: Oh wait. Strange.
[11:18] <_lenin_> I have some problem with grub. When i boot  i see grub>  next i type command boot i have error 8: kernel must be loaded before booting. When i manualy set kernel ubuntu hangs up. What is wrong?
[11:18] <phimic> anyone uses ufw with ulogd?
[11:18] <n00p> theadmin: no, just a different distro.
[11:19] <n00p> different style
[11:19] <n00p> it asks for authorization at a different stage
[11:19] <n00p> (ie after I click the delete button)
[11:19] <Jimi_Neutral> Ok i have started gFTP and changed the conf file to enable a remote pc access. What will the user and passowrd be cause it didnt ask me to set one
[11:19] <maco> Slart: i think my window manager always puts windows *on top* of the panel if they're moved to overlap it
[11:19] <theadmin> n00p: I use Karmic... I kinda forgot stuff already lol
[11:19] <unimatrix> erUSUL, Slart, maco: in Karmic you can actually enable RGBA for many programs like gedit, rhythmbox, system-monitor, etc... but not gnome-panel
[11:19] <pedrovrm> hi, I lost my hd and would like to use ubuntu in a pendrive, I already have it on a pendrive, but I would like to know how to install software in it
[11:19] <maco> unimatrix: i have none of those installed :P
[11:19] <Slart> unimatrix, maco: actually.. I just made it transparent using the ccsm.. true transparency and all =)
[11:20] <n00p> So is there any bearded wise man here who will rescue my broken GUI?!
[11:20] <unimatrix> Slart: it's not the same
[11:20] <unimatrix> Slart: that makes the icons&text transparent too
[11:20] <MenZa> !details | n00p
[11:20] <Oli``> One of my RAM sticks occasionally drops out at boot. It's very occasionally so it's very hard to test (I have 6 sticks). Is there some way I can show which slots are running from within Ubuntu?
[11:20] <Slart> unimatrix: ah.. yes.. that's true
[11:20] <n00p> MenZa: I've given full details. Please read more accurately.
[11:20] <MenZa> n00p: Well, give them on one line, and have patience.
[11:21] <MenZa> n00p: There's a massive amount of activity in here which makes it easy to lose things. :)
[11:21] <n00p> MenZa, I'm repeating myself word for word for you: in my "wired connections" I have "Auto eth0" and "ifupdown (eth2)"... eth2 is actually wireless and it was placed there after messing around trying to get the bloody thing to work. The "delete" button is disabled when I highlight "ifupdown"... Does anyone know how I can remove this?
[11:21] <Slart> unimatrix: including the properties window.. and the "Add to panel"-dialog
[11:21] <maco> Oli``: maybe "sudo lshw" might help
[11:21] <maco> Slart: ew
[11:21] <MenZa> n00p: Excellent--no need to get bitey; I'm only trying to streamline communication here. :)
[11:21] <unimatrix> Slart: yes
[11:21] <arvernus> Hello! I've got the latest Ubuntu 9.10 installed with the latest updates and Firefox 3.5.7. Whenever I try to enable the Firebug-Console, Firefox crashes. No matter what page I'm on or how many tabs are open. Any help, plese?
[11:21] <MenZa> maco: I think -c memory will only grab memory, ftr
[11:22] <unimatrix> Slart: we don't want that, we only need the panel background to be transparent
[11:22] <Slart> unimatrix: yup.. I agree
[11:22] <n00p> hmmm... well I did first ask $uptime(mIRC,1) ago...
[11:22] <n00p> hmmm... well I did first ask 34mins 43secs ago...
[11:22] <unimatrix> Slart: i actually found a brainstorm for this http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23098/
[11:23] <n00p> I understand you are telling me not to be bitey for a reason
[11:23] <n00p> and I hate to seem impatient
[11:23] <unimatrix> Slart: aaand... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/441727
[11:23] <n00p> but I feel as though I'm getting -nowhere- by being here
[11:23] <theadmin> n00p: Oh? Try the forums, might be more helpful
[11:23] <barf> I want to put the ubuntu installer on a memory stick and make it bootable
[11:23] <unimatrix> Slart, maco, erUSUL go to that bug and click "It affects me"
[11:23] <Jimi_Neutral> how do i set the username and passord on vsftpd so people can log into it?
[11:23] <Slart> unimatrix: will do
[11:23] <theadmin> barf: Told ya, use unetbootin.
[11:24] <bazhang> barf, try unetbootin then
[11:24] <rosco> hello
[11:24] <Oli``> maco: It does show the ram but it shows all 12GB present and correct. free (et al) think there's only 10gigs suggesting one is missing/faulty
[11:24] <MenZa> n00p: Have patience. Someone will come around; perhaps check the forums while you wait?
[11:25] <barf> But it appears to require GUI? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other
[11:25] <ke1ha> oli``` I checked /proc/meminfo .. looks like it lumps it all together as well.
[11:26] <barf> bazhang: theadmin: But it appears to require GUI? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/#other
[11:27] <barf> Isn’t there just a bootsector file anywhere?
[11:27] <bazhang> barf, correct; you never specified otherwise
[11:27] <theadmin> barf: Oh, you want a no-gui solution... sorry
[11:27] <barf> I have Mac GUI and ubuntu/debian terminal available
[11:27] <ke1ha> you may find this usefull oli```: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4681
[11:28] <Ziago> Anyone having troubles with Mumble + Wine?
[11:29] <Ziago> Actually, I'm not sure it's Mumble + WINE. After booting, my microphone just stops working for whatever reason.
[11:30] <meatbun> http://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Tech-CSNPSU2-BK-3-5%C2%BF-enclosure/dp/B001U6I6M2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1265627258&sr=1-9
[11:30] <Vampire0> Hi there, I'm on Karmic and I observe very strange behaviour. I make changes for the autostart programs, but they are sometimes not save. I cannot really reproduce when it happens and when not :-(
[11:30] <Jaimie> Ziago; why not run native?
[11:30] <Jaimie> http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Installing_Mumble#Linux
[11:30] <meatbun> i got this thing. and it corrupted my data. beware!!!!!!!!
[11:30] <Ziago> Jaimie: Oh, I'm using Mumble natively
[11:31] <Ziago> sudo aptitude install mumble
[11:31] <Jaimie> ofc
[11:31] <Ziago> But, I'm also using an application through WINE. Scratch the statement about WINE
[11:31] <Ziago> For whatever reason, my mic just stops working, and sound ultimately becomes very garbled and unusable after a while.
[11:31] <Ziago> It's a default Ubuntu install, aside from Wine and Mumble.
[11:31] <Jaimie> cant say ive had that before
[11:32] <Ziago> I'm getting tons of messages like this in /var/log/messages: pulseaudio[1461]: ratelimit.c: 14 events suppressed
[11:32] <Jason__> Hi, why ubuntu server edition doesn't show all the processes status but just some? (e.g. I don't see mysql booting up, but there is apache). In this way cannot see if everything is booted up correctly
[11:33] <theadmin> Jason__: Are you running the process displaying command as root? Otherwise, it might not display not-owned processes
[11:33] <Guest41226> help
[11:33] <Guest41226> sudo aptitude install libsdl-perl libcompress-zlib-perl
[11:34] <theadmin> Guest41226: And?
[11:34] <Jason__> theadmin: I mean when the system is booting, just before the login. I don't write any command...
[11:34] <Guest41226> Writing extended state information... Done
[11:34] <Guest41226> (Reading database ... 262778 files and directories currently installed.)
[11:34] <Guest41226> Unpacking libsdl-gfx1.2-4 (from .../libsdl-gfx1.2-4_2.0.19-2_i386.deb) ...
[11:34] <Guest41226> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl-gfx1.2-4_2.0.19-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
[11:34] <FloodBot4> Guest41226: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:35] <Ziago> Meh. Heading back to Windows.
[11:35] <unimatrix> Ziago: what's the problem
[11:35] <Ziago> unimatrix: Sound doesn't work =/
[11:35] <lukjad007> I'm following this guide: http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[11:35] <Ziago> unimatrix: Sound works for a while, but then it dies.
[11:35] <lukjad007> I'm following this guide: http://stringofthoughts.wordpress.com/2009/05/24/grub-error-17-debianubuntu/
[11:35] <lukjad007> I have error 17, but don't know how to install grub since I use sda and not hda for my hard drives
[11:35] <unimatrix> Ziago: ubuntu 9.10
[11:35] <Ziago> Microphone input works for a while, then it does. Tons of messages like these in /var/log/messages: pulseaudio[1461]: ratelimit.c: 14 events suppressed
[11:35] <unimatrix> Ziago: ?
[11:36] <Ziago> Ubuntu 9.10, default installation.
[11:36] <unimatrix> Ziago: what sound card
[11:36] <Ziago> Just mobo sound.
[11:36] <Ziago> I'll get you the lspci sec
[11:36] <Ziago> ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[11:37] <hlj_> 没人说中文么？
[11:37] <erUSUL> !cn
[11:37] <unimatrix> Ziago: when does it stop working
[11:38] <m_fulder> hi
[11:38] <Guest41226> theadmin, and >>>E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libsdl-gfx1.2-4_2.0.19-2_i386.deb: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libSDL_gfx.so.13', which is also in package sdl-gfx 0
[11:38] <m_fulder> is it possible to connect to a ubuntu machine (while having a server on it) with my mobile phone? so I can use internet through my server?
[11:38] <ke1ha> There's allot activity on ALSA on the bug reports I had trouble when I did the dist-upg on an early ISO. worked on the same box with a later ISO, same base install.
[11:38] <Ziago> unimatrix: About 5 minutes after booting.
[11:39] <Ziago> Sound ultimately becomes very garbled, and the microphone just stops picking up sound altogether
[11:39] <unimatrix> Ziago: what happens if you restart pulseaudio
[11:40] <calrik> Hi all for some reason my ubuntu is jumpy, as in the mouse will occasional freeze for 1-2 seconds, I have the latest nvidia-drivers, ubuntu updates etc. My hard drives are healthy, cpu and memory not maxing out... any other ideas?
[11:40] <Ziago> unimatrix: It just tells me " * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions "
[11:40] <unimatrix> Ziago: you're doing it wrong
[11:40] <n00p> s00p@s00p-laptop:~$ service network-manager stop          stop: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.105" (uid=1000 pid=2448 comm="stop) interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Stop" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init))
[11:40] <Ziago> unimatrix: That's after issuing sudo service pulseaudio restart
[11:40] <unimatrix> Ziago: yes that's wrong
[11:40] <n00p> any ideas about that error message?
[11:41] <Ziago> Oh. When I used /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart, it told me to use that command.
[11:41] <unimatrix> Ziago: that's wrong too
[11:41] <unimatrix> Ziago: pulseaudio doesn't run as root
[11:41] <unimatrix> Ziago: just do killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -D
[11:42] <Ziago> Done. It says: E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[11:42] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi all. I can create a directory on the remote box using gftp but my boss cant vreate a directory using his ftp client on a windows machine even though he is using the same username and password i am to log into the box....anyone know why this owuld be?
[11:42] <indus> hi folks
[11:42] <waltercool> hi indus
[11:42] <unimatrix> Ziago: type pulseaudio -v
[11:42] <calrik> Hi all for some reason my ubuntu is jumpy, as in the mouse will occasional freeze for 1-2 seconds, I have the latest nvidia-drivers, ubuntu updates etc. My hard drives are healthy, cpu and memory not maxing out... any other ideas?
[11:42] <Jimi_Neutral> calrik, too hot?
[11:42] <indus> hello waltercool whats up
[11:43] <unimatrix> calrik: check dmesg for any errors
[11:43] <indus> waltercool, do i know u?
[11:43] <Ziago> It keeps saying "E: pid.c: Daemon already running." and "E: main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed."
[11:43] <student> .
[11:43] <student> ....................
[11:43] <unimatrix> Ziago: that's ok, it restarted on its own
[11:43] <Ziago> Of course, I already issued a killall pulseaudio
[11:43] <calrik> Jimi_Neutral: no everything running around avg 35 dergrees celcius
[11:43] <calrik> unimatrix: how do I check that?
[11:43] <unimatrix> Ziago: yes, when u do that it's started automatically
[11:43] <Ziago> unimatrix: Okay. Sound still isn't working =/
[11:44] <unimatrix> calrik: just type dmesg in terminal
[11:44] <waltercool> indus: I dont think so, im just replying your "hi folks"
[11:44] <unimatrix> Ziago: type killall pulseaudio; pulseaudio -v
[11:44] <unimatrix> Ziago: try it a few times until it works
[11:44] <indus> waltercool,  ok :)
[11:44] <Ziago> Okay. microphone still isn't working
[11:45] <Ziago> It worked. Now I have a terminal full of pulseaudio messages =)
[11:45] <unimatrix> Ziago: that was the point
[11:45] <unimatrix> Ziago: to see what's wrong
[11:45] <Ziago> Gotchya.
[11:45] <root51> how to update my grub in menu list
[11:46] <Ziago> Keeps saying this: "I: protocol-native.c: Connection died." when I open sound properties.
[11:46] <calrik> unimatrix: seems like my logitech g5 usb mouse is disconnecting and reconnecting alot, maybe its not getting enough power?
[11:46] <buffman> greetings to all
[11:47] <unimatrix> calrik: yes that is possible, try plugging it in a different USB port
[11:47] <buffman> Anyone got tips/links to getting a USB pinicle TV tuner going in Ubuntu 9.10 ?
[11:47] <unimatrix> Ziago: try asking the guys on #pulseaudio they might not answer immediately, so be patient, but they know their stuff
[11:48] <Ziago> Alright
[11:48] <calrik> unimatrix: awesome that fixed it thanks :)
[11:48] <unimatrix> calrik: no problem
[11:49] <waltercool> root51: update-grub?
[11:50] <ouyes> hi , can anyone recommend me a tool to play DVDs? i have a few DVD films,
[11:50] <Diverdude> An rpm package can be opened by the packet manager right?
[11:50] <ke1ha> safest way if your not familiar with grub, is to use the startup-manager.
[11:50] <iguanna> hi all
[11:50] <unimatrix> Diverdude: not in ubuntu
[11:51] <unimatrix> Diverdude: you usually need to convert it to DEB first
[11:51] <ke1ha> or you can manually edit menu.1st in /boot/grub
[11:51] <iguanna> can anyone tell me why doing scroll the text on the windows doesn't display correctly?
[11:51] <unimatrix> buffman: have you tried anything yet?
[11:52] <buffman> unimatrix, tried mythTV
[11:52] <unimatrix> buffman: did it work?
[11:52] <buffman> unimatrix, boot up messages seem to find it
[11:52] <Diverdude> unimatrix, aha, so if i want to install this package: http://ctags.sourceforge.net/
[11:52] <buffman> unimatrix, no
[11:52] <indus> why inst meebo used instead of empathy?i t has voice and video
[11:53] <unimatrix> buffman: try tvtime
[11:53] <corecode> hey
[11:53] <buffman> unimatrix, ok will do
[11:53] <corecode> what's the best way to submit a bugfix to a package?
[11:53] <corecode> i created a new version
[11:53] <corecode> should i just upload the diff.gz or something else?
[11:53] <unimatrix> Diverdude: it's usually a better idea to compile it
[11:54] <erUSUL> corecode: attach a patch to the bug in launchpad or send the bugfix directly to the program authors
[11:54] <Diverdude> unimatrix, ok, i did sudo apt-get install ctags....i hope its the same program and version
[11:54] <corecode> erUSUL: which patch?  the dpkg-generated patch?
[11:54] <buffman> unimatrix, does tvtime work for Digital tuners?
[11:54] <unimatrix> Diverdude: even better
[11:54] <himanshu_> could somebody tell me some complier / ide for c / c++ coding on ubuntu  ?
[11:55] <erUSUL> corecode: the atch to the sourcecode that fixes the bug
[11:55] <unimatrix> buffman: hmm, i'm not sure
[11:55] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | himanshu_
[11:55] <himanshu_> also please tell me , in java net beans work upon ubuntu or not?
[11:55] <Jimi_Neutral> I cant create a new dir in the apache2 dafault site fodler remotley. I have tried three diff pc's with three different ftp clients and 2 diff O/S. So i am assuming it is a permissions problem. I can create files in the /home/james though. Could someone help me with this please
[11:55] <iguanna> when a windows is moved up and down or doing scroll its content is not displayed right, why please?
[11:55] <Myrtti> ouyes: vlc is my favourite
[11:55] <corecode> erUSUL: is there a way to generate this patch?  there are ubuntu patches applied already when i use apt-get source
[11:56] <erUSUL> corecode: really dunno never played with packages. ask in #ubuntu-motu
[11:56] <erUSUL> corecode: thepatches i've done where to vanilla tarballs
[11:56] <Dravekx> is there a channel for ZEND?
[11:56] <himanshu_> is there any release of turbo c++ for ubuntu . i loved working on it.
[11:57] <unimatrix> iguanna: can you post a screenshot?
[11:57] <himanshu_> how can i install anjuta ?
[11:57] <Dravekx> anyone know how to install zend optimizer on a 64bit version of ubuntu server?
[11:57] <ouyes> Myrtti, i have smplayer,but i feel it is not very good for playing DVD,(vlc, is it open source?
[11:57] <m_fulder> is it possible to crypt/hide your IP adress or the files you're sending/reciving through a ubuntu comp. ?
[11:57] <unimatrix> himanshu_: try the Ubuntu Software Center
[11:58] <Myrtti> ouyes: of course it's open source
[11:58] <unimatrix> m_fulder: no, that is never possible, because of the way the internet works
[11:58] <erUSUL> himanshu_: xwpe is similar to tubo c++ 3.0 ;P
[11:58] <himanshu_> unimatrix , what would you recommend - code:: block or anjuta ?
[11:58] <unimatrix> himanshu_: anjuta
[11:59] <marshmallow> hallo
[11:59] <marshmallow> hallo
[11:59] <marshmallow> hallo
[11:59] <FloodBot4> marshmallow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:59] <indus> !VLC
[11:59] <himanshu_> erUSL , how to install xwpe ?
[11:59] <Jimi_Neutral> i need to create a dir in /usr/share/apache2/default-site but the ftp client is not letting me, how would i rectify this?
[11:59] <indus> !info vlc
[11:59] <m_fulder> unimatrix : so there's no way at all to send/recive a file without my interprovider sees it?
[11:59] <marshmallow> wer ist der G?
[11:59] <unimatrix> m_fulder: that is correct
[11:59] <marshmallow> ey wer ist hier der G?
[11:59] <ke1ha> m_fulder IP address may be a tricky, but, using the ssh tunnels already encrypts the data. You can set that when your generating leys.
[12:00] <Dravekx> anyone know how to install zend optimizer on a 64bit version of ubuntu server?
[12:00] <marshmallow> Wer ist hier der Super G?
[12:00] <marshmallow> ist hier auch hans vorhanden?+
[12:00] <Myrtti> !de | marshmallow
[12:00] <marshmallow> hallo
[12:00] <marshmallow> hallo
[12:00] <spacken> ihr gays
[12:00] <unimatrix> m_fulder: what you're trying to do is essentially the same as trying to mail a letter to someone, without the post office knowing who it is for
[12:00] <marshmallow> ey spacken
[12:00] <marshmallow> sonja hartwig
[12:00] <Guest51461> you are all fucking gays
[12:00] <iguanna> unimatrix, how do i send the screenshot file?
[12:01] <Guest51461> sonja hartfick
[12:01] <unimatrix> iguanna: upload it to imageshack.us
[12:01] <marshmallow> auf wiederseheeeeeeeeeeeen
[12:01] <waltercool> marshmallow: /join   #ubuntu-de
[12:01] <marshmallow> ist hier auch der hans?
[12:01] <user01_> ihr spastis
[12:01] <marshmallow> hello????????
[12:01] <olonr1> s
[12:01] <waltercool> marshmallow: auf wuedersehen ;)
[12:01] <marshmallow> huhu?
[12:01] <waltercool> wie*
[12:01] <unimatrix> !de > marshmallow
[12:01] <olonr1> helo
[12:01] <marshmallow> wer ist waltercool?
[12:02] <olonr1> car
[12:02] <olonr1> kto z polski
[12:02] <unimatrix> !pl > olonr1
[12:02] <olonr1> no
[12:02] <olonr1> ppppaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:02] <iguanna> unimatrix, http://imagebin.ca/view/30fBxb.html
[12:03] <iguanna> unimatrix, http://imagebin.ca/view/30fBxb.html
[12:03] <himanshu_> which IDE could be best for core java programming  on ubuntu ? when i was on windows i used to write code on notepad and compile it on command prompt , otherwise used net beans .
[12:03] <iguanna> sd
[12:03] <jussi01> !code | himanshu_
[12:03] <unimatrix> iguanna: yes i see
[12:03] <iguanna> ok
[12:03] <unimatrix> iguanna: does this only happen in evolution?
[12:03] <iguanna> it is very annoy
[12:04] <iguanna> it happens everywhere
[12:04] <iguanna> some place works better than other, I mean, Hotmail works almost perfect
[12:05] <unimatrix> iguanna: hotmail in firefox?
[12:05] <Jimi_Neutral> how would i be able to create a diectory in this folder '/usr/share/apache2/default-site' using FTP. It wont do it at the moment because I am logged in as a normal user and i am guessing to create a dir in this path you need root access
[12:05] <iguanna> Jimi_Neutral, yeah
[12:05] <iguanna> Jimi_Neutral, yeah
[12:05] <Jimi_Neutral> so is it possible to configure vsftpd to allow a remote user root access?
[12:06] <zilkomaa> Hi everybody
[12:06] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi
[12:06] <unimatrix> !ask > zilkomaa
[12:06] <iguanna> perhaps if I hand the nvidia setting
[12:06] <m_fulder> unimatrix: ah ok .. well yeah that seems not possible :P..kelha : yes ssh gedo encrypt my IP ... what do you mean by generating leys? how do I do that
[12:07] <m_fulder> also kelha: can I make everything be send thourgh ssh ?
[12:07] <zilkomaa> unimatrix: ? Why do u have to act like a lamer?
[12:08] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, as far as i know you either have to give them the root usn/pass or add the user to the root group
[12:08] <unimatrix> zilkomaa: ?
[12:08] <ke1ha> Jimi_Neutral: yes, but root anything, especially unsecure transfers ftp or others is really not advisable.
[12:08] <Guest1945> ciao
[12:09] <Jimi_Neutral> ke1ha, yeah i know but what my boss wants......
[12:09] <Jimi_Neutral> mattgyver, ah, how would i add them to the root group
[12:09] <filip89> hi anyone who can help me with a sound?
[12:09] <ke1ha> m_fulder ... sri typo, generating Keys, not leys. sri.
[12:09] <unimatrix> m_fulder: ssh connections are only possible with specific targets
[12:10] <unimatrix> filip89: what seems to be the problem?
[12:10] <filip89> unimatrix: it is serious
[12:10] <zilkomaa> unimatrix: Why you giving me ask / info msg? I just salute everybody when i joined.
[12:10] <filip89> after i installed new kernel, my sound stop working
[12:10] <unimatrix> !offtopic > zilkomaa
[12:11] <filip89> unimatrix: i update to new alsa, and it is not working
[12:11] <filip89> aplay -l gives me only this
[12:11] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, you should just be able to create a new unix login and/or chmod the accounts group to root, i think its chmod -u username:newgroup
[12:11] <filip89> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:11] <unimatrix> !pastebin > filip89
[12:11] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, i highly suggest disallowing root to even connect in the vsftpd.conf file
[12:12] <Jimi_Neutral> mattgyver, still new to linux...and yes I know matt but as I said, what my boss wants.....
[12:12] <ke1ha> It's actually chown for dirs, chmod for files. chown user:uer
[12:12] <unimatrix> filip89: oh that's it?
[12:12] <mattgyver> this way you dont expose the true root account, not that what the other account doesnt make it any safer :|
[12:12] <unimatrix> filip89: how did you "update" alsa?
[12:12] <filip89> from one script
[12:12] <unimatrix> filip89: what script
[12:12] <filip89> w8
[12:13] <filip89> i will try to find it
[12:13] <ke1ha> but that doesnt explain why he can't get access with the users he already has, which i dont quite understand that one yet.
[12:13] <filip89> unimatrix: exactly I compiled it
[12:13] <filip89> i download new alsa
[12:13] <unimatrix> filip89: why did you do that
[12:14] <filip89> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6589810
[12:14] <filip89> this manual.. no helpfull
[12:14] <filip89> than i tried this
[12:14] <Jimi_Neutral> so how would i add a user to the root group?
[12:14] <filip89> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&highlight=sound+issues
[12:14] <ke1ha> Jimi_Nutral: where you sending things to and from, it is just server to server on you own internal LAN ?
[12:15] <mattgyver> Jimi_Neutral, please see my PM
[12:15] <unimatrix> filip89: but why did you do it? did you have any previous issues?
[12:15] <xguru> my computer fails to boot normally, how do i get to the grub menu for recovery?
[12:16] <Myrtti> xguru: by pressing shift, if you're running karmic
[12:16] <unimatrix> xguru: keep pressing the up or down arrow right before linux boots... grub should show up
[12:16] <unimatrix> xguru: or shit or esc... pretty much anything should work
[12:16] <filip89> but i stopped at point If you are greeted with the error "Connection failed: Connection refused", manually launch PulseAudio before opening the PulseAudio Volume Control application:
[12:16] <ke1ha> that's not to fix the problem, it's bypassing it, especially in VS. but hey ho, not my security hole.
[12:16] <xguru> unimatrix: thanks....lemme try....it just usually autoboots into linux
[12:17] <filip89> unimatrix: I have no sound after update at new kernel
[12:17] <skydrome> can someone give me their top 5 httpd servers?
[12:17] <unimatrix> filip89: that can happen, so why did you update the kernel?
[12:18] <filip89> standard update
[12:18] <aapzak> guys, what does *manually* upgradeable mean? did I screw something up by removing unwanted repos?
[12:18] <filip89> i am updating any time any update which appears
[12:18] <Myrtti> skydrome: what exactly are you asking?
[12:18] <unimatrix> filip89: do you remember which update that might have been
[12:18] <teffers|Brew> hey guys little issue stepmania src is moaning i dont have liblua installed althought i have install lua50 package why is it say it does not excist
[12:18] <filip89> yes.. update from 7.2.
[12:18] <skydrome> Myrtti, opinions on top5 httpd servers
[12:18] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <Myrtti> !best > skydrome
[12:19] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <filip89> unimatrix from kernel 2.6.28-11-generic
[12:19] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: stepmania won't build since Ubuntu 8.10
[12:19] <filip89> sry
[12:19] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <skydrome> !or you can tell me
[12:19] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: install it from playdeb
[12:19] <filip89> unimatrix: from kernel 2.6.28-17-generic to kernel 2.6.28-18-generic
[12:19] <teffers|Brew> playdeb
[12:19] <farizluqman> hello
[12:19] <farizluqman> is there anybody
[12:19] <Myrtti> skydrome: we don't really do polls here, and it's a matter of opinion anyway
[12:19] <Myrtti> farizluqman: yes
[12:19] <xguru> nope after the bios boots, it say's grub loading.... and tries to boot linux reguardless if i hit any keys after the bios
[12:19] <skydrome> errr gg
[12:20] <Myrtti> farizluqman: do you have a ubuntu support question?
[12:20] <teffers|Brew> playdeb///
[12:20] <farizluqman> hi
[12:20] <teffers|Brew> playdeb///???*
[12:20] <ke1ha> unimatrix: this audo problem's been happening for a while now, base build works, you do the dist-upg and it breaks alsa somehow, but not for all cards.
[12:20] <farizluqman> yes
[12:20] <filip89> unimatrix: but i tried compiled new alsa according that manual which i sent you for this kernel 2.6.28-18-generic and also for this one 2.6.28-16-generic
[12:20] <farizluqman> a very simple question
[12:20] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: http://www.playdeb.net
[12:20] <farizluqman> how can I loggin as root?
[12:20] <filip89> unimatrix: it seems that is a really big problem, because my sound stop working also at win
[12:20] <Myrtti> farizluqman: you don't.
[12:21] <Myrtti> !rootsudo | farizluqman
[12:21] <filip89> farizluqman: gksu
[12:21] <unimatrix> filip89: in windows too?
[12:21] <filip89> yep
[12:21] <unimatrix> filip89: then it's quite possible a hardware issue
[12:21] <Myrtti> !my | farizluqman, also you might want to check out your local Ubuntu people
[12:21] <farizluqman> I know the sudo command, but I want to log in as root, to access the / files
[12:22] <MenZa> farizluqman: Why?
[12:22] <Myrtti> farizluqman: use sudo/gksudo for that
[12:22] <Myrtti> farizluqman: you don't need to log in as root
[12:22] <unimatrix> farizluqman: sudo su
[12:22] <MenZa> farizluqman: As Myrtti says, all can be done with sudo.
[12:22] <aapzak> anyone here who knows about manually upgradeable?
[12:22] <teffers|Brew> stepmanika isnt on p[laydeb
[12:22] <filip89> unimatrix: i tried install driver for win, installation was successful but no sound again, it shows, like i do not have a sound card
[12:22] <Myrtti> unimatrix: please don't recommend that :-(
[12:23] <unimatrix> Myrtti: well sometimes it's necessary
[12:23] <MenZa> Myrtti: That's very, very bad practice.
[12:23] <MenZa> er, unimatrix*
[12:23] <MenZa> unimatrix: No, it's not.
[12:23] <filip89> unimatrix: ok.. my sound was working for several years how can installation of kernel destroyed my hw?
[12:23] <farizluqman> sudo.. but I'm not a professional in terminal things, I like to login as root
[12:23] <MenZa> unimatrix: It's never necessary.
[12:23] <FloodBot4> MenZa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:23] <extor> I do sudo su all the time so what
[12:23] <MenZa> farizluqman: What are you trying to do?
[12:23] <MenZa> !rootsudo | extor
[12:23] <unimatrix> MenZa: from my own experience i can tell you that it is
[12:23] <ke1ha> I had to use OSS until upg to 2.6.31-19 was released to fix my ICH7 issues.
[12:23] <farizluqman> logged in as others did
[12:23] <unimatrix> filip89: you should probably contact your sound card vendor about that
[12:23] <farizluqman> How To?
[12:23] <extor> Yeah so I don't want to type sudo before each command hence sudo su
[12:23] <himanshu_> even after successful compilaion , i am unable to execute the generated onject code using Anjutu ..help me
[12:24] <MenZa> farizluqman: You're not making what sense.
[12:24] <MenZa> extor: Heard of sudo -i?
[12:24] <Myrtti> extor: you don't need to suggest it to people here, though
[12:24] <extor> Nope
[12:24] <Mike__B> hi there, after installing latest kernel update in Karmic scrolling in Gnome lead to flickering screen. Anyone can confirm? Changing back to 2.6.31-17 fixed the issue for me. Am using Nvidia.
[12:24] <Myrtti> !wfm | extor, unimatrix
[12:24] <MenZa> extor: Well, there you go. Have a look at the manpgage for the -i flag.
[12:24] <teffers|Brew> stepmanika isnt on p[laydeb
[12:24] <teffers|Brew> unimatrix, i cant find stepmania on playdeb
[12:24] <extor> sudo su dangers are overrated especially in comparison to the main user being sudo capable
[12:25] <Yos> What's a good, free newsreader for ubuntu ?
[12:25] <himanshu_> i get a message <program_name>  is not a local file
[12:25] <unimatrix> teffers|Brew: lol, really? http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/9.10/?q=stepmania
[12:25] <extor> I mean if you want security then dont HAVE the default user able to sudo
[12:25] <farizluqman> no, I want to login to root, with my password root, in the legon screen, but he says "Root cannot login in this screen" or something similar
[12:25] <MenZa> Yos: By 'newsreader' do you mean newgroups, RSS feeds?
[12:25] <MenZa> farizluqman: You should never, ever, ever, EVER log into an X session as root. EVER. EVER EVER EVER.
[12:25] <MenZa> NEVER.
[12:25] <Yos> MenZa: Yes, for newsgroups
[12:25] <ke1ha> not seeing that here Mike_B
[12:25] <unimatrix> farizluqman: that's because you should never login as root, unless you want do break something... is that your intention?
[12:25] <MenZa> Yos: Evolution is a good option. It's installed by default.
[12:26] <Mike__B> hmm.. could be laptop-related then.
[12:26] <Myrtti> farizluqman: oh, you've enabled root account? Good luck.
[12:26] <Yos> MenZa: Evolution can be use to download files from newsgroups ?
[12:26] <farizluqman> ok..ok...ok.... I'll learn Sude
[12:26] <farizluqman> sudo
[12:26] <MenZa> Yos: Should be able to, yes.
[12:26] <Myrtti> farizluqman: if there'd be a sticker on Ubuntu installation that says "damaging will void warranty" enabling root account would be that
[12:27] <ke1ha> Iv'e not had it on log, and it's an older NV embedded GPU. Dont have it on my GTX-280 box.
[12:27] <farizluqman> ooh.... logging in to root will void the warranty.... ok
[12:27] <ke1ha> oops, not had it on long.
[12:27] <MenZa> farizluqman: Well, that's the best way to describe it. We can't support that method.
[12:28] <farizluqman> Is there any "copy" command? and a "paste" command
[12:28] <indus> farizluqman, cp
[12:28] <unimatrix> farizluqman: cp
[12:28] <ke1ha> cp  & mv
[12:29] <indus> farizluqman,  and mv file1 file2 will rename file 1 as file2
[12:29] <indus> farizluqman, cp file1 file2 copies from 1 to 2 and to copy folders do cp -a
[12:29] <indus> cp -r i think
[12:29] <ke1ha> mv doe moving to diff dir's, cp or cat to move between files.
[12:30] <filip89> unimatrix: i found also one guy who has similar problem after update to a new kernel
[12:30] <farizluqman> ooo ok, if i want to copy a file, I will type "sudo cp /something(source) /mylocation"
[12:30] <ke1ha> rrr
[12:30] <farizluqman> something like that
[12:30] <ke1ha> or mv it from one dir to another
[12:30] <farizluqman> <<<< noob
[12:30] <ke1ha> cp does just that, makes a copy.
[12:31] <unimatrix> filip89: well it does happen, but if it's also a problem in windows, that usually indicates that it's not a linux problem
[12:31] <Myrtti> farizluqman: would you mind me asking what files are you copying to other locations?
[12:31] <raven> how to enable more network interfaces to monitor in the sysmon-panel-plugin?
[12:32] <ke1ha> Yeah, if it takes sudo to do it, could cause other issues :-)
[12:32] <farizluqman> ok "sudo cp /home/fariz/oxygenicon /usr/share/icons"
[12:32] <filip89> unimatrix: could kernel update destroyed hw?
[12:32] <farizluqman> its a icon theme
[12:32] <unimatrix> filip89: no
[12:33] <filip89> hm...
[12:33] <MenZa> farizluqman: Do cp -R ~/oxygenicon ~/.icons
[12:33] <farizluqman> mmyrtti: "sudo cp /home/fariz/oxygenicon /usr/share/icons"
[12:33] <Myrtti> farizluqman: you can install those without sudo or root access
[12:33] <Oyoz> my ubuntu 9.10 is rebooting on its on sometimes.does anybody know the reason why???
[12:33] <Myrtti> farizluqman: just like MenZa said
[12:34] <farizluqman> yeah, already in sudo now
[12:34] <Myrtti> Oyoz: not without more details
[12:34] <cpcall> @find twist and shout
[12:34] <farizluqman> done
[12:34] <shai27> Hello , i installed Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and its seems to have some problem with the internal speaker . when i plug in my headphones Ubuntu not disable the internal speaker ?
[12:34] <farizluqman> thats easy
[12:35] <raven> sysmon-panel-plugin: how to change the network interface to monitor
[12:35] <Oyoz> it just reboots when am brousing the net
[12:35] <farizluqman> thanks
[12:36] <ke1ha> what kernel ? Oyoz ?
[12:36] <n00p> wpa_supplicant sends error messages to stderr, where can I locate those messages?
[12:36] <farizluqman> ke1ha: kernel is the filesystem of linux
[12:36] <ke1ha> yeah... good guess. but need a number?
[12:36] <MenZa> farizluqman: Er, not exactly.
[12:37] <farizluqman> hahahaha... just a guest
[12:37] <Oyoz> 2.6.31-19-generic
[12:37] <farizluqman> whats the exactly
[12:37] <n00p> does ubuntu store writes to stderr anywhere special?
[12:37] <MenZa> !kernel | farizluqman
[12:37] <farizluqman> I see, i'm using 2.5.6
[12:37] <DonLemmi> Hi there, I'd like to install an old kernel (2.6.24) under karmic. Can anyone give me a hint where i can get the appropriate package, please?
[12:37] <farizluqman> is it obsolete>>> 2.5.6
[12:38] <raven> sysmon-panel-plugin: how to change the network interface to monitor?
[12:38] <rweng> is there a way to save everything of a terminal, commands and output, to a file?
[12:38] <ke1ha> Hmm.. im on the same one, I had that a couple days ago, before the last round of updates and it's gone away.
[12:38] <coz_> hey guys... I have had this issue for the last few versions of ubuntu...systray...system clock etc   switch positions on reboot ...clock always seems to want to be first before systray ...any solutions?  yes I have "Lock to panel"  enalbed  however enabled or disabled the same thing occurs
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Kernel i got here -> 2.6.31-19-generic
[12:38] <farizluqman> whats Karmic? (how can I stop asking silly questions, I'm interested in Ubuntu)
[12:39] <coz_> also this is dual monitor set up
[12:39] <n00p> wpa_supplicant is returning 1 and writing errors to stderr when I try to ifup eth2. Where can I obtain these error messages?
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> !karmic | farizluqman
[12:39] <ke1ha> Kinda like Karma, with an ic stuck on the end :-)
[12:39] <rweng> is there a way to save everything of a terminal, commands and output, to a file? - anyone?
[12:39] <farizluqman> oooh... I see...
[12:39] <farizluqman> my system will crash is having it
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  Huh?
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> rweng:  typescript command i seen to recall can save all in/out of a session
[12:40] <ke1ha> commands are ion your .history already .. and if you want to output a commands results, just >tosomefile.txt
[12:40] <n00p> I'd like to learn how to set up my network-manager-gnome. I've set it to manage devices in /etc/network/interfaces and added my interfaces, added a pre-up to eth0 to make sure it's the correct duplex... but the wireless returns 1 and I need to know what's going on. The script should be writing an error message to stderr, how do I view this message?
[12:41] <farizluqman> if I install Karmic, my system will sure crash, its look so beautiful and nor for the 450MHz pc, for sure
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> rweng:  at least i recall using that years ago.
[12:41] <Lint01> How to get a list of all files on my system created by package manager whose content had been changed then?
[12:41] <zleap> farizluqman, can you not install something like xubuntu or one that uses less resource hungary applications
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> rweng:  ahh - the command is 'script' it records everything in a session to a file of the type 'typescript' you can then reread later
[12:42] <zleap> there are also alternate installers, for low power (older) systems
[12:42] <n00p> I'd like to learn how to set up my network-manager-gnome. I've set it to manage devices in /etc/network/interfaces and added my interfaces, added a pre-up to eth0 to make sure it's the correct duplex... but the wireless returns 1 (and according to the preup script that could mean any number of errors) and I need to know what's going on. The script should be writing an error message to stderr, how do I view this message?
[12:42] <newguest> hi all
[12:43] <llutz> Lint01: compare file-md5sums with those of /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.md5sums
[12:43] <farizluqman> zleap: I'm using ubuntu 8.1 kernel 2.5.6...
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:   so you are using a version of ubuntu thats almost 2 years old.
[12:44] <MenZa> Dr_Willis: It's still supported until April.
[12:44] <raven> sysmon-panel-plugin: how to change the network interface to monitor?
[12:44] <MenZa> Wait, that's just the server I think.
[12:44] <farizluqman> 2 years old Ubuntu for 10 years old laptop, should be very ok
[12:44] <ke1ha> if it's not bork'en dont break it :-)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> MenZa:   yep.. if that really means anything to anyone. :)
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  just because its older. dosent really mean its 'better' for a low end system
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  there are disrtros out there with a focus on low end/old systems
[12:45] <farizluqman> I'm looking for that
[12:45] <farizluqman> (but not fedora)
[12:45] <indus> i dont get teh point of non LTS releases , everyone upgrades to the next anyway
[12:46] <indus> if you do a poll on the forums, everyone will have 9.10 for sure
[12:46] <llutz> -1 :)
[12:46] <unimatrix> indus: LTS is great for servers
[12:46] <indus> unimatrix, yes iam talking of non LTS
[12:47] <indus> unimatrix, its useless really
[12:47] <zilkomaa> How can i get games work better on my ubuntu 9.10? Like quakelive i have 60fps wtf? how can i take vsync off there is no option for that nvidia control panel.
[12:47] <pauljw> LTS is great on my laptop too
[12:47] <indus> unimatrix, i mean the support for beyond 6 months is useless i said
[12:47] <farizluqman> indus: 9.1 is it compatible for Intel 450 Mhz?
[12:47] <farizluqman> ping
[12:47] <indus> farizluqman, 450 mhz?
[12:47] <farizluqman> indus: yes, 10 years
[12:47] <indus> farizluqman, no atleast 500 mhz i believe
[12:48] <ke1ha> I only have one box that does not have a -server install on it.
[12:48] <intok> anyone here using pidgin from the getdeb repos?
[12:48] <indus> farizluqman, do you have a system around 9 years old ?:)
[12:48] <farizluqman> indus: no, its CELERON 450MHz
[12:48] <farizluqman> indus: yes
[12:48] <indus> farizluqman, hmm, try xubuntu i suggest
[12:48] <zilkomaa> And i have 64bit ubuntu 9.10 btw.
[12:48] <ke1ha> well, 9yrs old, that's a stretch, but this dell acts like it's 9yrs old :-)
[12:48] <indus> farizluqman, but actually, the 450 mhz will work if you have enough ram
[12:49] <indus> zilkomaa, vsync should be used from the in game controls
[12:49] <farizluqman> indus: have enough ram though, I have 256
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ive installed ubuntu on a Pent 1 - 100mhz befor.. took a few hrs.. but it ran. :)
[12:49] <farizluqman> 256MB
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> ram is never enough
[12:49] <indus> farizluqman, should work, but i suggest using 8.04
[12:49] <llutz> Dr_Willis: go, look for a hobby :)
[12:49] <farizluqman> indus: XUBUNTU 8.04?
[12:49] <indus> farizluqman, yes
[12:49] <farizluqman> indus: Ok...
[12:49] <indus> farizluqman, is your best option, but ubuntu also should work but very slow
[12:50] <indus> farizluqman, xubuntu is nice :) and light and fast
[12:50] <ke1ha> 8.04 is pretty robust after the dist-upg.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  you could always use  just a window manager... that will bne lighter and faster.  the xubuntu even.  but more limited
[12:50] <farizluqman> indus: its using XFCE as default DWM?
[12:50] <Lint01> indus: xfce is not exactly 'light'
[12:50] <indus> farizluqman, use
[12:50] <indus> farizluqman, yes i mean
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> xfce uses  the xfwm window manager
[12:51] <indus> Lint01, not interested in the tech aspects, but yes it runs nice on older systems
[12:51] <farizluqman> indus: its a lightweight dwm, sure it will use fewer res
[12:51] <indus> Lint01, you suggest some other ?
[12:51] <indus> Lint01, flux?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  you might want to check out the  lubuntu-desktop its supposed to be about as light as one can get. but its not got its own cd/disrto yet. You install some ubuntu, then install the lubuntu-desktop package
[12:51] <farizluqman> indus: I will wipe my ubuntu from my 8GB hd
[12:51] <llutz> indus: lxde might be an alternative
[12:51] <indus> hmm
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> 8gb. :) egads
[12:52] <indus> ok farizluqman see others are suggesting more options , so do try them
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> Tiny Core Linux, Puppy Linux, other  Uber-weird-mini linux's
[12:52] <indus> llutz, isnt that lxde thing called lubuntu?
[12:52] <llutz> indus: is it? no idea
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[12:52] <ke1ha> DSL is real light also.
[12:53] <indus> Dr_Willis, aah no puppy changes the apps so no good
[12:53] <farizluqman> I've used damn small linux.... and WOW!! but not presistent
[12:53] <ke1ha> but this is Ubuntu, so I'd say FLux on 8.04
[12:53] <farizluqman> save changes
[12:53] <indus> why i suggest xubuntu is , most of the stuff is like gnome except no open office i believe
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  you can set that up if you wanted to
[12:53] <n00p> this channel really... well... what do you think may be causing this command to error? /sbin/wpa_supplicant -s -B -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant.eth2.pid -i eth2 -D wext -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -C /var/run/wpa_supplicant
[12:53] <cosmodad> today I resumed my machine from S2RAM and now, whenever I'm trying to play audio, the player (e.g., rhythmbox) just blocks. Any idea how to fix this? I tried restarting pulseaudio and alsa but it wouldn't help.
[12:53] <indus> so not a drastic change from managing an OS
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> FreeDos!
[12:54] <indus> !lubuntu
[12:54] <llutz> ah, no lubuntu-desktop in jaunty. that is why i never heard of it
[12:54] <indus> llutz, see ?
[12:54] <llutz> indus: yes
[12:54] <farizluqman> indus: abiword is small but a big eating system res
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu does some things a little.. weirdly
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  its not big.. your pc is just old... :)
[12:54] <indus> farizluqman, no not true at all. i use it, its awesome and opens in half a sec
[12:55] <llutz> indus: i only use lxde with squeeze
[12:55] <indus> llutz, ok what is that?
[12:55] <llutz> indus: debian testing
[12:55] <farizluqman> dr_willis: yes, if I'm rich I have bough one now
[12:55] <indus> okie
[12:55] <Lint01> abiword is buggy as hell, i would avoid it
[12:55] <indus> i am planning to move to kde
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  thers rich then theres stingy...
[12:55] <indus> i can only puke so many times in  a year :D
[12:55] <llutz>  me likes KDE since 0.6.xx
[12:55] <indus> Lint01, i think newer versions are ok
[12:56] <ke1ha> Good luck with that move.
[12:56] <farizluqman> and I'll never install Windows
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> The kde4 beta ive been testing has had some neat features I will admit
[12:56] <indus> Lint01, but really havent followed its development much
[12:56] <indus> what is the full form of IRC?
[12:56] <Lint01> internet relay chat
[12:56] <indus> ok you are hired :P
[12:57] <llutz> Dr_Willis: every DE has its pro and cons, at least you will get a usable system with all of them
[12:57] <farizluqman> You guys are using IRC? me XChat
[12:57] <indus> farizluqman, so go and install lubuntu maybe or try xubuntu
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  I hear that twm is getting updated :)
[12:57] <indus> farizluqman, irc is a protocol, xchat is a client using it
[12:57] <llutz> Dr_Willis: whow, must have
[12:58] <MenZa> !ot| farizluqman
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  i think its gettting compositing support even
[12:58] <indus> yes all are off topic now
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  xchat is an IRC client
[12:58] <farizluqman> oooo......
[12:58] <noel_> Can anyone help me how to assemble assembly language with GAS
[12:58] <farizluqman> <<< noob
[12:58] <llutz> Dr_Willis: strange things are going on. i really wonder: who needs/uses that?
[12:58] <farizluqman> ubottu: ok
[12:58] <Rush3d> Is there any way to run Batch (.bat) Files in Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:59] <indus> farizluqman, dont you have to install somethings? why are you still here? :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> llutz:  no idea. but i noticed some of the vncserver packages still used to default to 'twm' but dident have twm as a dependency
[12:59] <farizluqman> ubottu: I already know
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  you mean DOS batch files?
[12:59] <llutz> Rush3d: dosemu
[12:59] <Rush3d> Dr_willis: Yes
[12:59] <farizluqman> ubottu: And, I also know that
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  theres dos emulators out. doxbox and a few others
[12:59] <llutz> err dosbox now
[12:59] <farizluqman> indus: I'm downloading XUBUNTU...
[12:59] <Rush3d> Ok, because im a java coder, and .bat files are the way to run java code
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  you are confused I think
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  java -jar whatever.jar
[13:00] <Rush3d> I am?
[13:00] <indus> farizluqman, ok good luck
[13:00] <Lint01> Rush3d: sh ./file.bat ?
[13:00] <llutz> Rush3d: just make a script to run your code, chmod +x it and you have a "batch" file
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  whats your .bat file doing anyway?
[13:00] <noel_> How to use GAS(GNU assembler)?
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  You are making a 'script' thats saveing you some typing
[13:00] <Rush3d> Dr_willis: It opens a jar file, so I dont have to jar all my codes every time I edit.
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  You are not going to run 'dos' batch files in dosbox to launch java programs
[13:01] <Rush3d> Dr, I use C++ its basically based of a MMORPG game.
[13:01] <noel_> I need help with GAS pls
[13:01] <Rush3d> Give me one second, Ill give you one of my bat files on pastebin.
[13:02] <emx> where is the file containing the network setup?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  if you want to script the opening of several files.. make a bash script that launches the proper commands, or an alias
[13:02] <Rush3d> Dr willis: http://pastebin.com/m23f4b7ee
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  or somthing like  'geany file1 file12 fule3'
[13:03] <Rush3d> Well, is there any way to
[13:03] <Rush3d> open a bat file?
[13:03]  * indus assumes Dr_Willis is a dos expert
[13:03]  * indus sorry DOS 
[13:03] <Rush3d> I think indus is right.
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  you WRITE a shell script that does the command you need to do
[13:03] <Rush3d> hmm.
[13:03]  * indus respells in caps DOS
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  all that  pastebin semeed to do was save you some typing
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> dos and linux sysntax are different
[13:04] <Rush3d> Yes, it transfers the *.java into *.class files
[13:04] <Rush3d> A.K.A compile
[13:04] <Dr_Willis> Rush3d:  then find the proper linux command to do the same task and make a shell script or alias out of it
[13:04] <Rush3d> Dr_willis: Ok.
[13:04] <vicente> Hi
[13:04] <Dr_Willis>  the fact you are using  the windows command line is not  making it 'dos running the command'
[13:05] <himanshu_> hello
[13:06] <grind> hey guys
[13:06] <himanshu_> hey grind
[13:07] <grind> got a little issue with line in => line out on 9.10
[13:07] <grind> audio
[13:07] <grind> input is set to "line in" and the level shows activity but i cannot get that sound to pipe out the audio out (to my stezza)
[13:07] <grind> any idea's?
[13:08] <Ziber> Whats the best way to keep a set of a files completely in sync with each other on two different servers?
[13:08] <grind> sounds on the computer still play through output
[13:09] <unimatrix> Ziber: the simplest way would be Dropbox or Ubuntu One
[13:09] <Ziber> neither heard of either of those... :o
[13:09] <vicente> I have a problem with the debs packages. I tried to instal a package from internet and it was broken. Cause of that, currently I can not install, remove or update my packages. Apt, synaptic and so ones are useless. All them show errors like "E: The package 3dxware needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report.". I already tried to do apt-get install -f, apt-get remove -f,
[13:09] <vicente>  dpkg -r 3dxware, dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq 3dxware but no luck. I'm out of ideas, what can I do?
[13:10] <grind> Ziber: rsync
[13:10] <Ziber> grind: doesnt do images
[13:10] <unimatrix> Ziber: rsync in a cron script if you want to go advanced
[13:10] <Ziber> well yes, i do want to cron it, but rsync wont do images
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> thers that Unison program also
[13:11] <llutz> Ziber: lsyncd
[13:11] <grind> ziber: as in iso's?
[13:11] <Ziber> grind: no. .jpg's
[13:11] <grind> ziber: of course rsync will do jpgs
[13:12] <Ziber> Didnt seem to... :o
[13:12] <llutz> Ziber: http://code.google.com/p/lsyncd/
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> be sort of odd if it cant do pure 'data' files
[13:12] <emx> i have a pc with ubuntu installed without network. how can i install a package that "cannot be authenticated"?
[13:12] <grind> anyone good with 9.10 audio?
[13:13] <llutz> emx: just install it
[13:13] <erUSUL> vicente: do you have the problematic deb around around?
[13:13] <emx> llutz: it wants to connect to http.us.debian.org
[13:13] <llutz> emx: but don't cry if it brakes something
[13:14]  * grind needs help with input to output audio 
[13:14] <emx> llutz: actually i would be happy. then i could role with gentoo.
[13:15] <uque> hola
[13:15] <n00p> guys here's all the info I can give you, I don't know why you haven't asked enough questions so far... anyone got any ideas why my wireless isn't working? logs, files, if there's anything missing let me know please... ---> http://pastebin.org/88215
[13:15] <uque> hola
[13:15] <uque> hola
[13:15] <aprilhare> hello. i'm trying to run alien arena (the version from getdeb) and i get the following error: "AL lib: oss.c:179: Could not open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy" - anyone have any ideas how to get past that?
[13:16] <erUSUL> !es | uque
[13:16] <grind> Anyone good with PULSEAUDIO ?
[13:16] <filip89> grind: what is your problem?
[13:16] <n00p> grind: I bet #ubuntu-offtopic is good with pulseaudio!
[13:17] <zaemis> good morning. :)
[13:17] <erUSUL> aprilhare: launch it like this « padsp alienarena »
[13:17] <emx> where do i have to save a package to "apt-get" it?
[13:17] <grind> filip89: playing audio into "input" shows level activity but cannot get the sound to pipe through to "output"
[13:17] <erUSUL> emx: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[13:17] <emx> erUSUL: thank you
[13:17] <llutz> emx: install local deb with dpkg
[13:18] <n00p> why is it when I ask a question and take all the time to paste every little piece of information that I see relevant to a pastebin or write every piece of info down nobody bothers to read it? Then people ask stupid shit like "Anyone good with PULSEAUDIO?" and they get all the attention in the world!
[13:18] <aprilhare> erUSUL: that made a difference - but it's still not running. get the same errors as before except the one i quoted earlier isn't there. "bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)"
[13:18] <emx> llutz: what do you mean by "local deb"?
[13:18] <llutz> emx: a file.deb already downloaded to your disk
[13:18] <grind> no one likes a cry baby n00p
[13:19] <emx> llutz: i see. thank you.
[13:19] <vicente> erUSUL, around around?
[13:19] <n00p> grind: yeh, I was ashamed of crying when I was 15.
[13:20] <grind> fail
[13:20] <n00p> what more can I say? chicks dig the sensitive guys
[13:20] <grind> the wrong chicks do ;)
[13:20] <erUSUL> vicente: sorry typed it twice
[13:20] <n00p> heh, I'll say. When was the last time you passed an exam with your "anyone know about MATHEMATICS?" and common usage of the phrase "fail"?
[13:21] <jussi01> !ot | n00p
[13:21] <grind> but what ever floats your boat mate
[13:21] <n00p> jussi01: can you help me?
[13:21] <zaemis> question: How do I change the boot up progress screen? I upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10, and the 9.10 brown looks like puke to me. I'd much prefer the richer brown color in 9.04
[13:21] <vicente> erUSUL, yes, i have it.
[13:21] <n00p> jussi01 here's all the info I can give you, I don't know why you haven't asked enough questions so far... anyone got any ideas why my wireless isn't working? logs, files, if there's anything missing let me know please... ---> http://pastebin.org/88215
[13:21] <farizluqman> just downloaded Xubuntu iso
[13:21] <filip89> after update to new kernel 2.6.28-18-generic i lost sound
[13:21] <farizluqman> wow how fast
[13:21] <filip89> also not working at win
[13:21] <darthsitius> Is there any open source media(a/v) converter for Ubuntu?
[13:21] <llutz> darthsitius: ffmpeg, mencoder
[13:21] <vicente> erUSUL, url by pm
[13:22] <darthsitius> llutz : does it have a GUI?
[13:22] <jussi01> n00p: sorry, Ive no idea with wpa stuff
[13:22] <Ziber> How can I make a crontab run every hour?
[13:22] <llutz> darthsitius: no idea
[13:22] <llutz> Ziber: @hourly
[13:22] <erUSUL> aprilhare: then i really dunno see here maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290700
[13:22] <grind> fyi n00p, rather than spamming the channel with a bible of my audio problems thought id ask out for pulase audio experts, as not many people are down with the audio. heh
[13:22] <Pici> Ziber: 0 * * * * yourscript
[13:22] <farizluqman> n00p: WPA... ask me
[13:22] <n00p> jussi01: right, so really you're just a pawn who wields the !ot command as a defense for your ego...
[13:22] <llutz> Ziber: or "0 * * * * cmd"
[13:23] <erUSUL> vicente: i do not need it. you need it becouse E: The package 3dxware needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for  it.
[13:23] <jussi01> n00p: no, Im an op who's responsibility it is to keep this channel running spmoothly :)
[13:23] <erUSUL> vicente: dpkg can not find it
[13:23] <farizluqman> FreeNode
[13:23] <grind> n00p > /dev/null
[13:23] <erUSUL> vicente: so redownload and try to reinstall reconfigure
[13:23] <Ziago> I was directed to #pulseaudio, but over the course of 2 hours, I am still not getting any help there =/ Can anyone here help me resolve this PulseAudio issue?
[13:23] <Pici> grind: please ignore him.
[13:23] <indus> i wonder why xchat isnt installed by default
[13:24] <grind> rgr pici
[13:24] <vicente> erUSUL, ok, but the package is broken...
[13:24] <grind> ziago: thanks for the chan
[13:24] <Pici> indus: Because we generally only isntall 1 package for a task by default, and empathy was chosen instead.
[13:24] <newguest> is there a command to convert a rpm installation file to a deb file? I'm running out of ideas and google does not help me with this...
[13:24] <Pici> !alien | newguest
[13:24] <erUSUL> !rpm | newguest
[13:25] <coz_> newguest,   you will need to install alien  I believe
[13:25] <zaemis> guess not. Thanks anyway though.
[13:25] <indus> Pici, no , for irc xchat is better isnt it
[13:25] <coz_> newguest, http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[13:25] <indus> Pici, and irc is so important in the linux world
[13:25] <mawst> darthsitius, Avidemux
[13:25] <indus> Pici, iam sure they will add it someday soon,
[13:26] <n00p> mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /crap && mv grind /crap/ && umount -f /crap
[13:26] <darthsitius> mawst, k ill chk it out
[13:26] <coz_> newguest,  I am not sure it is always successful   however what pacakge are you trying toconvert???
[13:27] <coz_> newguest,  the package you are trying to convert may already be in deb format
[13:27] <indus> n00p, so you have a problem with pulseaudio?
[13:27] <vicente> erUSUL, I've tried sudo dpkg -i fullfilename and it, again, broken at the end. Then I've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure 3dxware but it tells me that that package is not installed.
[13:27] <mawst> darthsitius, and if you need to make video files int o dvds, DeVeDe
[13:27] <n00p> no indus
[13:27] <indus> oh wireless
[13:28] <darthsitius> mawst: cool thx a lot
[13:28] <n00p> yes indus
[13:28] <newguest> coz_, if your running an operating system with support for ONE format, it means that you should be able to convert and run as the native format
[13:28] <filip89> glid what was your problem?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> not installed by default = the cd can only hold so much :)
[13:28] <dariorossini> why windows is still better then linux?
[13:28] <filip89> i have problem also with my sound
[13:28] <filip89> but... i cannot hear any sound..
[13:28] <newguest> coz_, perhaps there is some library that just works.
[13:28] <coz_> newguest,  understood however   the pacakge you are trying to convert may already be in deb format ...what is the pacakge
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> dariorossini:  take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:29] <Ziago> filip89: My sound is broken also =)
[13:29] <coz_> newguest,  no library alone that I know of  you will need to use alien to convert the package
[13:29] <filip89> Ziago: mine is after update to new kernel, and yours?
[13:29] <Ziago> Nope.
[13:29] <Ziago> Not interested in installing a newer kernel.
[13:29] <moonpup> do sftp connections show up as a login under lastlog ?
[13:30] <Ziago> errors are apparently related to pulseaudio
[13:32] <butler> Hey all, could anyone give me a hand to resize my mdadm raid. ive added the disks and sync'ed them. but cant resize the partition. :D
[13:34] <dbluefield> hey peeps
[13:34] <knxville> Why can't I run VirtualBox? It gives me this message when I try to run it: Could not load the settings file '/home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml'.
[13:34] <ugn4v> whats up
[13:35] <dbluefield> anybody here to help a newb?
[13:35] <llutz> knxville: "ls -l /home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml"
[13:35] <llutz> knxville: "ls -ld /home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/"
[13:35] <darthsitius> knxville: is the file existing in that location?
[13:35] <knxville> darthsitius, yes
[13:35] <knxville> llutz, the file is there..
[13:35] <dbluefield> Im running ubuntu after a partitioned dual boot install -- it killed my DVI
[13:36] <llutz> knxville: owner/group?
[13:36] <knxville> llutz, trying to change the rights atm
[13:36] <newguest> coz_, I understand when you say there is no support to the software alien itself. however, what's your point when you say it's not safe? what do you mean, is it that dangerous because....?
[13:36] <knxville> llutz, didnt work.. it still gives me: Could not load the settings file '/home/knoxville/.VirtualBox/VirtualBox.xml'.
[13:36] <knxville> Cannot convert settings from version '1.9-linux'.
[13:36] <knxville> The source version is not supported.
[13:36] <llutz> knxville: why don't you provide us with the info needed to help?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> newguest:  it could break your system
[13:37] <darthsitius> knxville: yeah, just paste the output
[13:37] <dbluefield> are monitor drivers a common problem?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> dbluefield:  cant say that ive ever used monitor drivers at all  in linux.
[13:38] <coz_> newguest,  I didnt say it wasnt safe or dangerous  I am saying that the pacakge you want to convert from rpm to deb may already be in deb format
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> dbluefield:  my dvi connections alway work fine for me
[13:38] <coz_> newguest,  I cant guarantee that conversion with alien will work  but it is there if you want to use it instead of searching for the pacakge in deb format
[13:39] <dbluefield> well my DVI worked for a little while - then I tried a different visual effect setting - and Kabloooey - not digital output
[13:39] <dbluefield> its an old ATI radeon graphics card 7200
[13:39] <n00p> what's the latest kernel for 9.10?
[13:40] <dbluefield> I'm pretty amazed I got the dual boot thing to work --which is cool
[13:40] <Lint01> what is ubuntu repository url?
[13:40] <coz_> newguest,  I have been with ubuntu from the beginning.. I have converted rpm package to deb  and some work some dont... I prefer to find the pacakge in deb format.. and even then.,.. if it is not supported  on ubuntu or created for ubuntu  there is always a change it will not work or worse screw things up
[13:41] <llutz> knxville: recreate your VMs  with the new version
[13:41] <coz_> newguest,  I am not saying  don't experiment  ...
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> Linux server 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 02:39:34 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:41] <Pici> n00p: 2.6.31.19.32 from karmic-updates
[13:41] <dbluefield> the weird thing is that my XP dvi is busted too
[13:42] <knxville> llutz, recreate my VMs? So I have to reinstall 8 Operating Systems? :)
[13:42] <llutz> knxville: why? the images are fine, just the seting-files have to be recreated
[13:42] <knxville> llutz, so I can delete the VirtualBox.xml file and it will create a new one?
[13:43] <llutz> knxville: but maybe ask at #vbox, the might have a better solution
[13:43] <mawst> keep a backup jic
[13:43] <llutz> knxville: try with renameing that file 1st
[13:43] <knxville> llutz,  thanks alot
[13:43] <KaiForce> If dual booting, install Windows first, then Ubuntu?
[13:44] <llutz> KaiForce: makes it easier, yes
[13:44] <Jimi_Neutral> hi llutz hope you are well
[13:44] <KaiForce> thought so.  Thanks llutz
[13:44] <dbluefield> thats what I did -- I guess sound and picture problems are normal?
[13:45] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: hi, what's boss' order today? ;)
[13:46] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, lol, to set up an ftp server and allow him root access cause he doesnt want to put the website in the normal place that it shoudl be
[13:46] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: autsch
[13:47] <hyperstream> why is it my Laptop, when connecting to my main ubuntu box, when ever i try to double click the workgroup folder/directory/name i get prompted for a friggen password, yet the windows boxes here are fine and dandy... Its just this laptop, and i use the same account credentials for the server and this laptop, all pc's are in the same work group. the password fails. seems mainly to fail logging into this WorkGroup folder
[13:47] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, whats that mean?
[13:47] <llutz> Jimi_Neutral: sorry, "that hurts"
[13:48] <KaiForce> i looked it up - "ouch!"
[13:48] <KaiForce> i'll have to use that in mixed company
[13:48] <llutz> ^ right
[13:48] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, ah i see, yes it does but i sorted it with the help of mattguyver
[13:52] <plumpskunk> hi! I have a problem with my usb printer and ubuntu/karmic. Whenever I print something, it needs like 20min to send it to the printer (doesnt matter if 500kb or 5mb file), the printer shows the "receive data" sign. It's working, but thats too slow. Kyocera FS-820
[13:52] <indus> bad drivers
[13:52] <llutz> plumpskunk: alternate drivers available? try them
[13:52] <indus> plumpskunk, does kyocera provide drivers?
[13:52] <plumpskunk> which drivers to use
[13:53] <alexxio> hi
[13:53] <plumpskunk> I read, this printer is perfect with ubuntu
[13:53] <llutz> plumpskunk: look at linuxprinting.org what they recommend
[13:53] <alexxio> i fresh partitioned my pc
[13:54] <Ziago> It's just irritating about this PulseAudio business.
[13:54] <alexxio> then i installed windows, then ubuntu and then mandriva. then i decided to use windows7 so i reinstalled it. now mandriva and window goes, but grub recognizes only windows and mandriva
[13:54] <Ziago> Every person I have spoken IRL that has used Ubuntu has had _some_ problem with PulseAudio
[13:55] <Ziago> myself included. The sources are slopped, there's no PPA
[13:55] <alexxio> there is no way to use ubuntu and now i'm on an ubuntu live cd, gparted say there is no space allocated on my /dev/sda
[13:55] <Ziago> And it's broken.
[13:55] <Ziago> Not even an INSTALL document in the tarball I downloaded
[13:55] <plumpskunk> llutz: it says: BW laser printer, max. 1800x600 dpi, works Perfectly
[13:55] <plumpskunk> but not which driver to use
[13:55] <rossouwap> has anybody got an Olivetti d-Colour MF201 to work with Ubuntu?
[13:56] <miniBill> My Xorg server refuses to work. Tried reinstalling the kernel package and restarting but didn't succed. modprobe nvidia says module not found
[13:56] <miniBill> pliz :(
[13:57] <knxville> How do I add home folder to desktop?
[13:57] <cicloner> hi
[13:57] <llutz> plumpskunk: at the end of that site, follow the link "related website" and try the ppd provided there
[13:57] <alexxio> nobody for me?
[13:58] <Ziago> <== gives up; is going back to Windows.
[13:58] <miniBill> knxville: drag it with RMB and select create link?
[13:58] <miniBill> Ziago: what's your problem
[13:59] <Ziago> Microphone keeps dying.
[13:59] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:00] <miniBill> Ziago: aww, I guess I can't help then :)
[14:00] <Ziago> Just a sec
[14:00] <miniBill> cicloner: what form the drivers came into?
[14:00] <cicloner> wait
[14:00] <cicloner> from svn
[14:00] <cicloner> svn co https://zd1211.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/zd1211 zd1211
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[14:01] <miniBill> cicloner: is there a README file?
[14:01] <miniBill> cicloner: if yes, did you READ it?
[14:02] <cicloner> ok , i go to read .. :)
[14:02] <miniBill> :|
[14:02] <miniBill> brb
[14:03] <cicloner> i only see a "Makefile"
[14:03] <atlef> !best
[14:04] <plumpskunk> llutz: nice thankyou! I tested the ppd-file from this page, and this works better than before.
[14:04] <Jimi_Neutral> llutz, i am so mad
[14:04] <llutz> plumpskunk: fine
[14:05] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:05] <cicloner> i can't see any readme file
[14:06]  * alexxio 
[14:06] <hyperstream> why is it my Laptop, when connecting to my main ubuntu box, when ever i try to double click the workgroup folder/directory/name i get prompted for a friggen password, yet the windows boxes here are fine and dandy... Its just this laptop, and i use the same account credentials for the server and this laptop, all pc's are in the same work group. the password fails. seems mainly to fail logging into this WorkGroup folder
[14:07] <xza> witam
[14:07] <xza> ntpd nie synchronizuje mi czasu
[14:07] <xza> już nie mam pojęcia co zrobić
[14:07] <llutz> !pl | xza
[14:07] <xza> ubuntulog, ok
[14:07] <alexxio> can anyone help me?
[14:08] <stagka> hello
[14:08] <jiohdi> alexxio: help you do what?
[14:08] <stagka> how to get info about pc architecture ?
[14:09] <alexxio> i fresh partitioned my pc, then i installed windows, then ubuntu and then mandriva. then i decided to use windows7 so i reinstalled it. now mandriva and window goes, but grub recognizes only windows and mandriva...there is no way to use ubuntu and now i'm on an ubuntu live cd, gparted say there is no space allocated on my /dev/sda
[14:09] <FoolsRun> Hi. I'm rsyncing a 1TB USB drive to another 1TB drive so that I can reconfigure RAID on the first one and then copy back --I keep getting "sb 2-4: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 5"  in my dmesg log, but the rsync seems to be going fine. Is this cause for concern?
[14:13] <FoolsRun> maybe?
[14:13] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: not necessarily
[14:14] <FoolsRun> Myrtti: are there particular circumstances I would or woulnd't worry about?
[14:14] <atlef> stagka: dpkg --print-architecture in a terminal
[14:14] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:15] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: I really wouldn't worry until there's i/o errors in the logs or you can point out yourself with md5sum etc that the files are corrupt
[14:15] <atlef> stagka: or just arch in a terminal
[14:16] <FoolsRun> Myrtti: alright, cool. I found some stuff on the forums about changing my mount settings to try to clear it --I'll try that once this incredibly long rsync process is done. Thanks for calming my fears.
[14:17] <stagka> atlef: i get different results with first i368 and second 638
[14:17] <atlef> then you have the 32 bit version
[14:18] <atlef> running on the x86 kernel
[14:18] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: you can always stop it and restart it with -u
[14:19] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: then you can continue it from where you left off
[14:19] <emx> in a compilation i need gd.h. where is this file contained in?
[14:19] <Seppoz> hio, where are the ssl cource files located in ubunto (apt-get install libssl-dev)
[14:19] <Myrtti> FoolsRun: given it's multiple small files, I've not tried it with big ones
[14:19] <Seppoz> *source
[14:20] <FoolsRun> Myrtti: it's media files. I'm fine waiting. I'll spot-check some of the video before wiping the source drive
[14:21] <jrib> Seppoz: dpkg -l PACKAGE, but why?
[14:21] <jrib> Seppoz: dpkg -L PACKAGE, but why?
[14:21] <Myrtti> Sergeant_Pony: that's not how you get the source files
[14:21] <Myrtti> meh
[14:21] <Myrtti> Seppoz: that's not how you get the source files
[14:22] <Myrtti> Seppoz: that's how you get the development headers
[14:22] <cicloner> i want to config my wireless card "zydas" for work in master mode (access point), and with the originals drivers didn't work, but i hace downloaded de correct drivers from subversion , how can i make the drivers work?? i have to compile anything?
[14:22] <Myrtti> Sergeant_Pony: sorry about that, mishap with tabcomplete
[14:23] <Seppoz> jrib need them to cross compile something with ssl support
[14:24] <evantandersen> hey does anyone here know anything about pam-script and pam modules in general? I'm having a weird problem getting it to work.
[14:25] <evantandersen> i wrote a script for my auth, and it returns a 1 or a 0 correctly when I execute it manually, however when I go to use sudo, the script is ignored and access is granted instantly
[14:27] <drellok> evantandersen, I think it would be helpful if you paste script contents and the commands to run the script
[14:28] <evantandersen> drellok: i posted it on the forums.... no one replied. Look here for more info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401277
[14:28] <evantandersen> as i said, if I cd in to the dir and execute the script it will work and return either a 1 or a 0
[14:30] <allmo> i think a kernl update has broken my ipv6
[14:30] <alazyworkaholic> I rented a DVD. Due changed circumstances I no longer have time to watch the movie I paid for before having to return it. What's the best/easiest way to get something like an ISO image off, (even if it has typical copy protection) so I can watch it on my computer later?
[14:30] <allmo> it works but it doesnt..
[14:31] <evantandersen> handbrake will the rip the dvd to a format of your choice
[14:31] <Favorit> hmmz
[14:31] <evantandersen> aka ffmpeg, divx whatever you want....
[14:31] <Favorit> if i screwed up sudoers...
[14:32] <evantandersen> and now you can't sudo to fix it?
[14:32] <Favorit> there's no way I'll be able to correct it?
[14:32] <Favorit> exactly :)
[14:32] <evantandersen> live cd
[14:32] <llutz> Favorit: livecd
[14:32] <Seppoz> so i still didnt find the ssl headers
[14:32] <evantandersen> boot in and fix it, you have root access without
[14:32] <Favorit> yeah, that would be a problem, the server is about 7500 km away from me :)
[14:32] <evantandersen> oh
[14:33] <Favorit> stupid, typoed one word by twisting letters :)
[14:33] <llutz> Favorit: have a nice trip :)
[14:33] <evantandersen> Favorit: you weren't using visudo?
[14:34] <inveratulo> this is why you have another shell logged in as root when you mess around with privs just in case you break it
[14:34] <Favorit> evantandersen: hmm, no I think this time right not.. but I guess I need to dig all my screens, there should be a shell somewhere :)
[14:35] <evantandersen> Favorit: are their any drives attached to your server? could you get some1 to buy a usb stick and put it in the back?
[14:35] <_21h_> hi all. ubuntu server 9.10 offers virtual machines hosting out of the box. where i can read more about this?
[14:37] <inveratulo> I think you're looking for KVM https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[14:38] <_21h_> thanks
[14:40] <The_Pacifist> Who here plays Starcraft on Ubuntu?!
[14:40] <evantandersen> i
[14:40] <shishirdwivedi20> how to do audio chat using pidgin?
[14:40] <shishirdwivedi20> plz hel
[14:40] <shishirdwivedi20> *help
[14:41] <Seppoz> really noboy knows location of ssl source in ubuntu?
[14:41] <The_Pacifist> Anyone use Iccup launcher on ubuntu?
[14:41] <syn-ack> Seppoz: it's in the repos...
[14:41] <The_Pacifist> Starcraft iccup launcher*
[14:41] <FoolsRun> The_Pacifist: Starcraft reports as playable at winehq:  http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=72
[14:41] <syn-ack> !source | Seppoz
[14:41] <llutz> Seppoz: /usr/src
[14:41] <Seppoz> say-ack, explain plz.. i installed libssl-dev already
[14:42] <The_Pacifist> FoolsRun: I know I can get Starcraft working but not the Iccup launcher
[14:42] <evantandersen> yeah, that's how I play.... don't know what you're talking about
[14:42] <llutz> Seppoz: -dev aren't sources
[14:42] <syn-ack> Seppoz: the dev package isnt source it's headers
[14:42] <Seppoz> oh
[14:42] <llutz> Seppoz: it's dev-files
[14:42] <llutz> Seppoz: apt-get source libssl.....
[14:42] <Seppoz> thx
[14:42] <evantandersen> whats the iccup launcher/why do you need it?
[14:42] <The_Pacifist> do you play on B-net?
[14:42] <evantandersen> no
[14:42] <evantandersen> oh
[14:42] <shishirdwivedi20> hey help me in pidgin
[14:43] <The_Pacifist> lol
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> how to do voice chat on pidgin?
[14:43] <evantandersen> i don't think you can audio/video chat in pidgin yet
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> i am new user
[14:43] <evantandersen> although skype is free for linux
[14:43] <FoolsRun> The_Pacifist: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14914   iccup reports as working, too
[14:43] <Duskin> You can audio chat with a plugin, but no video
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> which plugin
[14:43] <atlef> shishirdwivedi20: i think kopete supports this
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> ?
[14:43] <iceroot> evantandersen: skype is not free
[14:43] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:44] <syn-ack> iceroot: free as in no cost.
[14:44] <llutz> free of charge, but not free
[14:44] <shishirdwivedi20> let me try
[14:44] <Duskin> Iceroot: skype is free for skype to skype calls
[14:44] <syn-ack> Which it is for computer to computer calls
[14:44] <atlef> !kopete | shishirdwivedi20
[14:44] <FoolsRun> Free as far as most people are concerned
[14:44] <iceroot> Duskin: syn-ack free = freedom
[14:44] <syn-ack> No it doesnt and lets not get into this discussion
[14:44] <_21h_> shishirdwivedi20, typicaly gamers uses something more specialized
[14:44] <_21h_> like teamspeak
[14:44] <FoolsRun> iceroot: almost nobody asking about voice chat cares about that
[14:44] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:44] <tuxnani> i have got some problem configuring ip address settings
[14:45] <llutz> syn-ack: on a opensource-related channel "free" might have a special meaning
[14:45] <iceroot> FoolsRun: voicechat is working with the new messenger (dont know the name) so no need for non-free software
[14:45] <The_Pacifist> FoolsRun: Thanks dude I'll look ti up
[14:45] <FoolsRun> I did not intend that to rhyme
[14:45] <syn-ack> iceroot: Please leave the zealotry at the door.
[14:45] <Duskin> Iceroot: you can find clients that are open-source
[14:45] <tuxnani> 've got some problem in ubuntu 9.04 there is osme problem configuring network settings manually the method of writing in /etc/network/interfaces is not working out in GUI mode if am trying to set IP address statically the apply button is disabled
[14:45] <pog> I have wireless lasermouse (ms natural wireless laser mouse 6000). Actually USB-Device is recognized correctly but the mouse doesn't show anything. According what I have researched the mouse should work. I'm wondring, whether it need's another mousedriver or an option to set somewhere.
[14:46] <tuxnani> the apply button is enabled for all other options except the manual setting of ipv4
[14:46] <The_Pacifist> rg/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=14914
[14:46] <evantandersen> pog: so the mouse doesn't move at all, even when it's turned on and plugged in? do the basic buttons work?
[14:46] <FoolsRun> pog: when you plug in the receiver, does it detect?
[14:46] <pog> FoolsRun: yes it detects correctly
[14:46] <FoolsRun> pog: batteries are fresh/it works on a Windows or Mac machine?
[14:47] <pog> evantandersen: the mouse doesn't move, under XP it works...
[14:47] <Ziago> Mic still just dies after 10 minutes or thereabouts.
[14:47] <FoolsRun> pog: try doing the "Connect" button thing where you make them reset?
[14:47] <pog> what I find strange, even unter XP no light burns on the mouse
[14:47] <abahkaiyisah> hi all,my ubuntu crash and kernel panic, how to recover ubuntu like windows installation recovery on setup cd ?
[14:47] <abahkaiyisah> thanks before
[14:47] <FoolsRun> pog: laser mice don't have a visible light like optical mice do
[14:48] <pog> ah, o.k.
[14:48] <FoolsRun> pog: try pressing the "connect" button on both the mouse and the receiver
[14:49] <FoolsRun> abahkaiyisah: it crashes every time you boot, or just the once?
[14:49] <dbertaso> Good Morning or Good Evening for all
[14:49] <pc_magas_> Morning if in greece is afternnon
[14:49] <abahkaiyisah> yes, everytime boot so now i just use my hardyheron live cd
[14:50] <abahkaiyisah> good day pc_magas and dbertaso
[14:50] <FoolsRun> abahkaiyisah: if you look at the GRUB menu at boot time (ESC during the countdown I believe) are there other kernel or safeboot options?
[14:50] <pc_magas_> Guys IO need some help with poulsbo!
[14:50] <pc_magas_> I*
[14:52] <abahkaiyisah> at the grub menu, there is a recovery mode but it still cannot work
[14:52] <iguanna> to remove a Repository copy of work in subversion is enough doing rm -R directoryRepository?
[14:52] <dbertaso> I need to know why ubuntu 9.10 64 bits don't recognize more 3GB ram if bios and lshw-gtk did and don't use memory for sharing video in bios
[14:52] <FoolsRun> abahkaiyisah: same error? When does the error appear?
[14:53] <FoolsRun> abahkaiyisah: also, what did you do to cause the problem?
[14:53] <impi_> hey guys, trying to install redmine, and i get this error: rake aborted!
[14:53] <impi_> RubyGem version error: rack(1.1.0 not ~> 1.0.1)
[14:53] <umang> What does the pipe ( | ) character before a package name in "apt-cache rdepends" mean? (See bzr if you want an example)
[14:53] <abahkaiyisah> first line error, but i forgot the message
[14:53] <impi_> any idea, google doesnt seem to know much..
[14:54] <FoolsRun> impi_: find the rake and make sure it is not aborted. Be sure not to step on the rake.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:54] <abahkaiyisah> i havent do anything cause i've got work todo . i choose LIVE CD
[14:54] <FoolsRun> impi_: stepping on a rake, though hilarious, can be painful.
[14:54] <pog> I don't believe it, when I restarted ubuntu, the wireless mouse works...
[14:54] <FoolsRun> pog: woo!
[14:54] <impi_> FoolsRun, lol
[14:55] <pc_magas_> Hey I need some help with my poulbo driver here.....
[14:55] <FoolsRun> impi_: seriously, though, I have no idea. I'm wasting your time.
[14:55] <pog> strang may be after having initialized under XP oder when starting up with the mouse.
[14:55] <pog> ok, thanks!
[14:56] <umang> What does the pipe ( | ) character before a package name in "apt-cache rdepends" mean? (See bzr if you want an example)
[14:56] <pc_magas_> HELP ME SOMEBODY HERE!
[14:56] <CShadowRun> !ask | pc_magas_
[14:56] <CShadowRun> !caps | pc_magas_
[14:57] <FoolsRun> pc_magas_: it's probable that nobody knows the answer to your question and that's why they haven't responded.
[14:58] <umang> I'll repeat my question on last time before asking elsewhere. What does the pipe ( | ) character before a package name in "apt-cache rdepends" mean? (See bzr if you want an example)
[14:58] <FoolsRun> or you could ragequit
[14:58] <abahkaiyisah> FoolsRun: is there any tools that can make our modified configuration and packages back to genuine standard ubuntu ?
[14:58] <CShadowRun> umang: try reading man apt-cache
[14:58] <CShadowRun> the answer will no doubt be in there
[14:58] <Chr|s> For some reason when I do a clean full install of Ubuntu 9.10 it shows I have 240gb Filesystem, I have a 500gb drive. I don't understand.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> Chr|s, do you have the drive partitioned ?
[14:59] <FoolsRun> abahkaiyisah: I don't know. Hopefully someone else here can answer that question.
[15:00] <Chr|s> I did, but I thought a clean install would use the entire drive
[15:00] <Chr|s> That is what I selected
[15:00] <abahkaiyisah> FoolsRun: thankyou
[15:00] <umang> CShadowRun: No. I looked there.
[15:00] <umang> CShadowRun: And checked again, with a find also.
[15:00] <CShadowRun> umang: weird, try #debian
[15:00] <pingya> does anyone know what app i can use to convert m2ts to mkv or avi?
[15:01] <anto9us> abahkaiyisah, you could re-install from live-cd and if you don't format the partition containing /home then it will retain your data
[15:01] <Chr|s> This is my second time doing this, so I decided to come here and try to get some help
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Chr|s, install gparted and use it to look at the drive
[15:01] <|-|3x0r> lol nooo, don't send people to #debian, there's enough users in there already
[15:01] <trism> umang: I believe it means "or", if you look at packages.ubuntu.com, when they show the depends there, where they would put a | they put the word or
[15:01] <|-|3x0r> send them to LQ
[15:01] <Chr|s> BluesKaj, ok
[15:01] <CShadowRun> |-|3x0r: haha
[15:01] <FoolsRun> pinya: LMGTFY,  http://www.fsckin.com/2008/01/03/transcoding-mtsm2ts-avchd-video-files-with-free-software/
[15:02] <umang> trism: what would that mean?
[15:02] <|-|3x0r> lol @ this comment i just read "GH> We don't want another #ubuntu, a channel too noisy to be useful."
[15:02] <umang> trism: I mean, what does "or" mean in terms of packages
[15:02] <umang> ?
[15:02]  * |-|3x0r doesn't want debian to end up like that
[15:02] <|-|3x0r> 790 for #debian is more than enough
[15:02] <pingya> FoolsRun, thnx
[15:02] <|-|3x0r> 1390 is insane
[15:03] <trism> umang: I would assume it means that the dependency can be satified by either of the two packages (for example, in ubuntu-restricted-extras they have |adobe-flashplugin, flashplugin-installer, so either one would work as a dep)
[15:03] <FoolsRun> pingya: That's the first google result for "ubuntu convert m2ts to avi".
[15:03] <umang> trism: OK. Thanks. :)
[15:03] <Chr|s> BluesKaj, odd, it says ext4 is 448gb hmm
[15:03] <alex88_> hi to all, is this the right channel for lucid discussion?
[15:03] <FoolsRun> pingya: (Google is your friend)
[15:03] <Chr|s> sda1 sorry
[15:03] <abahkaiyisah> anto9us: so everything under /home wont disappear. and we should install by set the partition label manually?
[15:04] <Guest8784> does anybody use moinmoin
[15:04] <candy> 1 gb ram, 160 gb hard disk, 1.6 ghz atom processor, wihch os of linux u suggest for my netbook??
[15:04] <FoolsRun> abahkaiyisah: if you can mount the hdd in the Live environment, just backup /home to another drive or USB stick before installing
[15:04] <atlef> !netbook remix
[15:04] <Yerushalmi> Hi folks. I've been trying to get hibernate to work for some time and without success, unfortunately that's pretty much a deal breaker for me. Does anybody know of another Linux distro in which it works less problematically? Or, alternatively, any hibernate experts available to help me?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Chr|s, when the drive said 250G , what command did you use ?
[15:05] <Andrew-by> Yerushalami: I can't hibernate on my EEE-PC 900 in this Linux distro too
[15:05] <anto9us> abahkaiyisah, the partitioner gives the option to format or not during the install process. You don't have to format to re-install. It should work.
[15:06] <BluesKaj> candy, ubuntu karmic should run ok
[15:06] <tuxnani> i've got some problem in ubuntu 9.04 there is osme problem configuring network settings manually the method of writing in /etc/network/interfaces is not working out in GUI mode if am trying to set IP address statically the apply button is disabled
[15:06] <Chr|s> BluesKaj, At first I installed ubuntu alongside windows, resizing the partition Windows and Ubuntu at 250gb each and now trying to do a complete install of Ubuntu for the entire hard drive
[15:06] <llutz> Yerushalmi: "works here" out of the box. it's a real mess to find issues if its not working
[15:06] <tuxnani> i've got some problem in ubuntu 9.04 there is osme problem configuring network settings manually the method of writing in /etc/network/interfaces is not working out in GUI mode if am trying to set IP address statically the apply button is disabled
[15:07] <tuxnani> i've got some problem in ubuntu 9.04 there is osme problem configuring network settings manually the method of writing in /etc/network/interfaces is not working out in GUI mode if am trying to set IP address statically the apply button is disabled
[15:07] <Kentrel> Hey guys, When I press Ctrl Alt F1 I don't get the standard output. I just get a blank screen
[15:07] <Kentrel> This is a problem for me
[15:07] <BluesKaj> Chr|s, format the whole drive to ext
[15:07] <Chr|s> BluesKaj, It shows "250 GB Filesystem" on my desktop
[15:07] <Threetimes> Hi, sometimes I get this error after waking up from standby: http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/174/p080210155301h.jpg
[15:07] <FoolsRun> Kentrel: what about CTRL+ALT+F2?
[15:07] <abahkaiyisah> anto9us: & FoolsRun: o i see,  thankyou verymuch for the suggestions
[15:07] <candy> BluesKaj, are u sure?? u mean netbook version of karmic??
[15:07] <Yerushalmi> Andrew-by: Same problem as me? Instant wake call before hibernate completes but with no errors?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> candy, not a netbook version
[15:08] <Chr|s> BluesKaj, why to ext instead of ext4?
[15:09] <FoolsRun> BluesKaj: I knwo you're not on a netbook, but on my netbook I got hibernate to work after flashing my bios.
[15:09] <nastas> hi all
[15:09] <BluesKaj> ext3 or 4 it's your choice
[15:09] <Andrew-by> BluesKaj: What is your netbook?
[15:09] <FoolsRun> aww crap
[15:09] <candy> BluesKaj, are u sure... i hav already xp in my system.. i wanna keep both... wont it b any problem??
[15:09] <FoolsRun> BluesKaj: didn't mean you. Sorry for spamming.
[15:09] <Yerushalmi> oops. Quit by accident. Andrew-by, did you reply?
[15:09] <Chr|s> BluesKaj, yeah I understand but when I did a clean install from the Ubuntu 9.10 disk it should of formatted the whole drive when I selected "entire drive"
[15:10] <Kentrel> Ctrl-Alt-F2 just caused X to restard! FUUUUU!!
[15:10] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi:  I got hibernate to work on my netbook after flashing my bios to a newer version.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> I'm not on a net book FoolsRun , Andrew-by , candy is tho :)
[15:10] <Chr|s> be back again later
[15:10] <FoolsRun> BluesKaj: netbook netbook netbook. Nebook? Netbook!
[15:10] <Yerushalmi> FoolsRun: Interesting. Hadn't thought of that.
[15:11] <Kentrel> Can someone tell me? Why won't Ctrl-Alt-F1 get me the standard output?
[15:11] <FoolsRun> Kentrel: does CTRL+ALT+F2 give you command line?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Chr|s, I always use a gparted livecd to do partitioning previous to the live ubuntu-cd install
[15:11] <Kentrel> NO. It gave me a blank screen. Then when I pressed Ctrl-Alt-F7 to come back it caused X to restart!!
[15:11] <Threetimes> Hi, sometimes I get this error after waking up from standby: http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/174/p080210155301h.jpg
[15:12] <joseph_> hello
[15:12] <atlef> Threetimes: it looks like hd failure
[15:13] <atlef> Threetimes: backup what you can
[15:13] <BluesKaj> FoolsRun, I"M NOT using a NETBOOK!!!
[15:13] <Threetimes> atlef: it's brand new. Are you sure? How do I find out what is in that sector?
[15:13] <BluesKaj> candy is , FoolsRun
[15:14] <FoolsRun> BluesKaj: First you want to turn on your netbook. Then, when your netbook has started up...
[15:14] <BluesKaj> candy asked the question , not me
[15:14] <Threetimes> atlef: and it's only after waking up from standby (maybe the hd's firmware dislikes standby?!)
[15:14] <sipior> FoolsRun: go away.
[15:14] <atlef> Threetimes: these are just my thoughts about the screenshot
[15:14] <candy> BluesKaj, what happened?? whaat foolsrun says?
[15:14] <FoolsRun> BluesKaj: I know :) I mis-read and thought you'd asked Yerushalmi's question
[15:14] <Threetimes> How do I find out what is in that sector?
[15:15] <Roasted_> Hey guys - how do I set xchat to reconnect to the same ubuntu channel each time I open it?
[15:15] <atlef> Threetimes: then that might be the problem then, not an uknown problem i think
[15:15] <maasha> say, what is the name of the local smtp server on a vanilla ununto install with postfix?
[15:16] <maasha> ubuntu
[15:16] <llutz> maasha: localhost
[15:17] <maasha> hm, I get complaints that I cannot send mail from localhost ->  Could not connect to outgoing mail server localhost
[15:17] <atlef> Threetimes: some info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/FglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver
[15:17] <atlef> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/350680
[15:18] <llutz> maasha: configure postfix, www.postfix.org/documentation or ask at #postfix
[15:18] <Threetimes> atlef: it's my video drivers causing ext4 errors??! WTF!
[15:19] <atlef> may be
[15:20] <atlef> Threetimes: it is the two first hits from this google search : http://www.google.no/search?q=ubuntu+wakeup+from+standby+problem+ext4-fs+error&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[15:20] <barf> I finally got the machine put together
[15:21] <barf> and a memory stick made this way dd if=/ubuntu-alternate-9-10.iso of=/dev/memorystick
[15:21] <tato_> is there anyone who knows how to get the led wireless activity light to work on gnome 9.10
[15:21] <barf> But it will not boot
[15:21] <barf> Do I need to make an MBR or something?
[15:21] <barf> Or what is the deal?
[15:22] <FoolsRun> barf: define "will not". The stick won't boot? You've selected it as the boot device?
[15:22] <barf> Yes
[15:22] <barf> Other memory sticks boot
[15:22] <atlef> barf: try unetbootin
[15:22] <barf> Hackintosh and Win7 that is
[15:22] <FoolsRun> barf: I've had "bad burns" on USB sticks before --try recreating it?
[15:22] <pog> you can try to boot via qemu.
[15:22] <barf> Tried 5 times already
[15:22] <FoolsRun> eesh
[15:23] <barf> I am more patriotic than I sound
[15:23] <barf> Source: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/ubuntu/ubuntu-cd/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[15:23] <prodcutnews>  linux reader not opening  LinuxnativeVolume1 ,  for  XP --> vmware -->   ubuntu 9.04   ?   could able to see native and swap volumes
[15:23] <cyn23> busy people
[15:23] <FoolsRun> barf: try a different tool to create the stick?
[15:24] <FoolsRun> barf: does it error or anything?
[15:24] <barf> atlef: Unless unetbootin has a command line version, it’s not good to me
[15:24] <atlef> barf: oh, i see
[15:25] <tato_> is there anyone who knows how to get the led wireless activity light to work on gnome 9.10
[15:25] <cicloner> alguien sabe donde puedo bajar la ultima version de los drivers zydas ZD1211L para mode master?
[15:25] <cicloner> agradeceria aydas
[15:25] <kgreszczuk> WITAM
[15:25] <FoolsRun> barf: you said you could boot a Windows7 stick --could you boot that, download the ISO and use the GUI stick creator from there?
[15:26] <evantandersen> !english
[15:26] <barf> Theoretically
[15:26] <barf> Yes
[15:26] <FoolsRun> heh
[15:26] <barf> However I found a better wa
[15:26] <barf> Hackintosh comes with chameleon
[15:26] <barf> I’ll just swap memory stick after chameleon shows up
[15:26] <prodcutnews> anyone help ...  linux reader not opening  LinuxnativeVolume1 ,  for  XP --> vmware -->   ubuntu 9.04   ?   could able to see native and swap volumes
[15:26] <kgreszczuk> MAM PYTANIE JAK SKONFIGUROWC SIEC LINUX AWINDOWS?
[15:26] <cicloner> where can i find latest linux wifi drivers for zydas ZD1211 card to work on mode master?
[15:27] <kgreszczuk> ?
[15:27] <kgreszczuk> PL
[15:27] <FoolsRun> barf: like the old swap-trick on a PSX
[15:27] <erUSUL> !pl | kgreszczuk
[15:27] <erUSUL> !caps | kgreszczuk
[15:27] <itsmegb> !english | kgreszczuk
[15:28] <cicloner>  where can i find latest linux wifi drivers for zydas ZD1211 card to work on mode master?
[15:28] <habasch> somebody knows why a mounted ntfs disk is owned by root even when setting uid=1000 in fstab?
[15:29] <FoolsRun> habasch: that's always bothered me, too. I try to give friends stuff and I can never write to their drives.
[15:30] <ehnde> is there a setting i can change in ~/.bashrc to bring color to my terminals?
[15:30] <FoolsRun> habasch: what about ownership of the mountpoint?
[15:30] <habasch> FoolsRun: the folder i mount to is owned by me already
[15:30] <Threetimes> ehnde: yes, just read the file
[15:31] <luizvitorio> sou noob como lista os canais?
[15:31] <llutz> FoolsRun: a mountpoint always gets permissions/ownership of the mounted fs, if mounted
[15:31] <sylock> hello. I need to connect by VPN to a FORTINET. I think it use the IPSEC protocol. Someone know if it is possible to do it with network-manager?
[15:32] <erUSUL> !br | luizvitorio
[15:33] <luizvitorio> obrigado
[15:33] <luizvitorio> !br
[15:33] <Yerushalmi> Question: has anyone here heard of or used eeebuntu?
[15:34] <airtonix> Yerushalmi, its like easy peasy and not supported here
[15:34] <airtonix> Yerushalmi, http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[15:34] <Yerushalmi> airtonix: Not asking if it's supported, asking if it's trustworthy :)
[15:35] <Yerushalmi> Hoping it's the answer to my hibernate problem but making sure it's something known
[15:35] <airtonix> Yerushalmi, what netbook do you have ?
[15:35] <Yerushalmi> I wouldn't download Bob's 100% Virus-Free Notbuntu, after all.
[15:35] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: bios didn't work?
[15:35] <Yerushalmi> EEE 900a.
[15:36] <Yerushalmi> FoolsRun: Haven't tried yet, but I'm going to as soon as I figure out what motherboard I have (I inherited this computer)
[15:36] <airtonix> Yerushalmi, i assume you've already tried using normal ubuntu desktop with openbox ?
[15:37] <kantai> @search greil marcus
[15:37] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: the eee site should have everything by serial number or whatever eee uses
[15:37] <Yerushalmi> airtonix: No idea what that is. I'm quite new to this I'm afraid
[15:38] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: in short, you should be able to get BIOS updates on the EEE website, if they're available at all.
[15:38] <Flare183> I recently reinstalled Ubuntu and I need my email back, I still have my old home folder including the hidden files and folders, is there any way I can just copy the folders to my new home folder and have my email back?
[15:38] <Yerushalmi> FoolsRun: Well, yes, but they're asking for my motherboard type and without physically opening the computer I don't know what it is...
[15:38] <rojoloco47> Hey ya ,Need a lil help, i want to configure VPN in ubuntu 9.10 i am newbie ,when I try to configure it from network manager It dont allows me to configure it from there
[15:39] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: huh. Weird.
[15:39] <Yerushalmi> unless all 900as have a standard one?
[15:39] <coz_> Flare183,  in your old home directory open that then hit ctrl+h to show hidden files
[15:39] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: I would hope they would, but I have no idea
[15:39] <prodcutnews>   might be aware of linux reader tool to read ext2/ext3 partions, im using ubuntu 9.04 installed over xp using vmware ...i could mount vmx file with LR and could see native, swap volumes, they are not opening
[15:39] <coz_> Flare183,  look for the  .evoluttion folder
[15:39] <coz_> Flare183,  I believe the mail should be there
[15:39] <coz_> Flare183,  copy that to the new .evolution folder
[15:40] <z987k> anyone know how to get an email address off a flash email link?
[15:40] <Flare183> coz_: Alright, I did that and I copied it to my new home folder but evolution doesn't pick it up.
[15:40] <rojoloco47> Hey ya ,Need a lil help, i want to configure VPN in ubuntu 9.10 i am newbie ,when I try to configure it from network manager It dont allows me to configure it from there
[15:40] <Yerushalmi> FoolsRun: I'll check it out. In the meantime, EasyPeasy is also a recommended eee-specific ubuntu version?
[15:40] <Flare183> coz_: It's still giving me the stupid wizard.
[15:40] <prodcutnews> check this      -->    http://linux-reader.software.informer.com/screenshot/106955/
[15:40] <coz_> Flare183,  hold on
[15:40] <Flare183> coz_: Alright.
[15:41] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: No idea.
[15:41] <coz_> Flare183,  open evolution  go to File   backup settings maybe  ... I am not sure since I dont eveolution but there should be something there to locate the mail
[15:41] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: what are the options for mobo types o the EEE site?
[15:41] <Flare183> hmm ok
[15:42] <ivansmo> guys on my XUBUNTU 8.04 thunderbird is missing since last night :(
[15:43] <lynx_r> hi in /var/log/messages i get this "reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address" and can't mount usb
[15:43] <zagabar> Anyone knows how to get the mysqldatabases for a forum from a damaged filesystem that cannot be started, only looted from another partition?
[15:44] <Yerushalmi> FoolsRun: I'm trying the latest version of BIOS under the 900A, hoping it works.
[15:44] <Flare183> coz_: it wants a backup file
[15:44] <FoolsRun> Yerushalmi: good luck!
[15:44] <Yerushalmi> This will entail a restart. Bye! :)
[15:44] <Yerushalmi> FoolsRun: Thanks :)
[15:44] <coz_> Flare183, mm   then I am not sure... I would guess someone knows here if not you could try the #linux channel
[15:45] <Flare183> Alright
[15:45] <Roasted_> I have a netowrk printer here at work on a windows domain. how can my ubuntu laptop connect to it?
[15:45] <z987k> anyone know how to get an email address off a flash email link?
[15:46] <OerHeks> z987k press pauze, and type it over ?
[15:46] <z987k> it's a flash based website with an email link
[15:46] <ivansmo> HELP people, today I notice that I dont have my email client thunderbird with my mail account
[15:46] <z987k> the mailto: type that is supposed to launch a client
[15:46] <erUSUL> Roasted_: System>Admin...>Printers   also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[15:46] <ivansmo> /usr/bin/ havent thunderbird also
[15:47] <atlef> gtg
[15:47] <FoolsRun> ivansmo: I'm not sure what you mean. Do you mean that Thunderbird is not installed? Was it before?
[15:47] <rojoloco47> Hey ya ,Need a lil help, i want to configure VPN in ubuntu 9.10 i am newbie ,when I try to configure it from network manager It don't allows me to configure it from there
[15:47] <z987k> OerHeks, but since those don't launch anything since I don't have a client or have firefox set up to recognize them, it does nothing... but I need the address
[15:48] <Roasted_> erUSUL, does my laptop have to be on the same domain to find these printers?
[15:48] <ivansmo> It was installed and I setup one mail account, all worked great and now I turn on my laptop to check mail and I saw there is no thunderbitd atall
[15:48] <varunthacker> is there an option to run ubuntu in a power saver mode.My laptop heats up a lot when running firefox!
[15:48] <mguy> What CPU/laptop
[15:48] <erUSUL> Roasted_: i guess so; but i'm not really versed in windows networking
[15:48] <sirMajid> hi, I have a problem with kubuntu, can anyone help?
[15:48] <varunthacker> laptop
[15:48] <indus> how to use xchat to auto identify on startup
[15:48] <FoolsRun> ivansmo: try installing Thunderbird?
[15:49] <ivansmo> ok
[15:49] <Roasted_> erUSUL, cause Im only picking up WORKGROUP items, not our domain items. That may be why, I suppose.
[15:49] <sirMajid> I want to use ctags in kdevelop. please help
[15:49] <mguy> sirMajid: Don't ask to ask, just ask your question
[15:49] <erUSUL> indus: i'm sure there is an option in the servers list
[15:49] <OerHeks> z987k if the email adress is not visible, then you have to setup aan email-application to get the link.
[15:49] <Roasted_> erUSUL, Ima switch the workgroup and see what happens. thanks bro.
[15:49] <varunthacker> open terminal: gconf-editor. apps >> gnome-power-manager >> ui. This option is not there in 9.10
[15:49] <sirMajid> mguy, well can u help?
[15:49] <erUSUL> Roasted_: no problem
[15:49] <FoolsRun> Roasted_: you might be able to hit the printers by IP
[15:49] <indus> erUSUL, me too sure but sure cant see it
[15:50] <ivansmo> FoolsRun :  one question before I install thunderbird again, what do you think of using this other mail that comes with XUBUNTU 8.04 and it can stay on top and watch mails all the time??
[15:50] <erUSUL> indus: select freenode or ubuntu network. then edit the netry... should be a checkbox to enable it
[15:50] <erUSUL> indus: iirc... been using irssi too lng ;)
[15:50] <FoolsRun> ivansmo: I'm not sure what you're talking about, sorry.
[15:50] <ivansmo> mail watcher
[15:51] <FoolsRun> ivansmo: mail watcher sounds like a notification app, not a mail client
[15:51] <indus> erUSUL, why irssi ? you dont have gui?
[15:51] <indus> erUSUL, how primitive :P
[15:51] <ivansmo> OK FoolsRun Im gonna install thunderbird again
[15:51] <erUSUL> indus: i have gui so i can a maximized gnome-terminal ;P. adicted to terminal
[15:52] <FoolsRun> erUSUL: but then you don't get the joy of trying to organize and flip through your windows all day long!
[15:52] <fif0> hey
[15:52] <erUSUL> FoolsRun: :)
[15:53] <fif0> is it possible to create a portable version of postgresql?
[15:54] <FoolsRun> erUSUL: I do the same thing. My Ubuntu machine at home is my "server" (NAS/Print, etc) and I run a desktop on it just so I can run a gterm on its display on the rare occasion I need to do something locally on it.
[15:54] <trism> fif0: depending on what you need to do, you could use sqlite instead
[15:54] <jamiejackson> i've got an app that depends on libstdc++5, how do i make it immune from an autoremove?
[15:54] <fif0> the fulltext search
[15:55] <erUSUL> FoolsRun: power to you... althought on a server i would use screen/byobu :)
[15:55] <FoolsRun> erUSUL: I like having the gui since it's my only Ubuntu machine. I occasionally use it to try apps or test websites and such.
[15:56] <jrib> jamiejackson: installing it explicitly should be sufficient
[15:56] <erUSUL> FoolsRun: ok
[15:56] <FoolsRun> or, like now, connect to chat despite my work network blocking it.
[15:56] <trism> fif0: ahh, then it probably wouldn't work for you
[15:56] <ivansmo> Hi FoolsRun, I installed thunderbird and it is OK now, even acc is setup already no need to setup it again :)
[15:56] <FoolsRun> ivansmo: glad it worked
[15:56] <jamiejackson> jrib: i believe i did install it explicitly, from maybe a jaunty deb
[15:57] <jamiejackson> but it still shows up as an autoremove candidate when i apt-get stuff, jrib
[15:57] <jrib> jamiejackson: erm, I assume you aren't on jaunty?
[15:57] <lior> hellp
[15:57] <lior> *hello
[15:58] <lior> I have a question
[15:58] <zer0her0> w0rd so i got home last night and my ubuntu box stated one of my HDDs reported a failing state and i could ok for more info, or hit cancel to dismiss, i hit ok and nothing came up.  where could i go to find this info?
[15:58] <jamiejackson> jrib: on karmic
[15:58] <fbianconi> !ask
[15:58] <jrib> jamiejackson: right, so don't do that.  Is there no karmic package?
[15:58] <jamiejackson> don't believe so, jrib
[15:58] <lior> I am trying to view PDF files, and some characters are missing
[15:58] <jrib> jamiejackson: best to rebuild yourself from source (and find out why the package no longer exists)
[15:59] <wahben> Question: My computer has died. I have been using Ubuntu for a few years, and verious linux distros for many more years. I have decided to get a Macbook, so I am getting the new macbook (white...) I am planning on installing Ubuntu and (perhaps) windows onto the Macbook. I have seen the instructions, but I am wondering if anyone actually uses this. Have you experienced problems after such a triple-boot setup? Do you think it's a ba
[15:59] <wahben> d idea to setup the Macbook to multi-boot with Ubuntu?
[15:59] <jrib> jamiejackson: and I mean rebuild the *package* from the *source package*
[15:59] <jrib> !source > jamiejackson
[15:59] <fif0> thats a problem^^
[15:59] <lior> specifically, it's a file that has math characters on it
[15:59] <zer0her0> wahben: run linux in a vm if you're planning on using mac hardwar
[16:00] <FoolsRun> lior: shot in the dark: try installing the Windows fonts?
[16:00] <lior> ok...
[16:00] <lior> how do I install them?
[16:00] <wahben> zer0her0, I was interested in having Linux run natively. Why to you recommend not to do that?
[16:00] <maniaks> hi
[16:00] <FoolsRun> hurm... it's like ubuntu-restricted-extras or something like that
[16:01] <zer0her0> i'm blanking on the technology but apple hasn't released the source/info on how power management is done on their machines so i believe linux pushes full voltage to processor at all times
[16:01] <lior> FoolsRun: could you help me out a bit more? this is my 1st day using ubuntu
[16:01] <FoolsRun> lior: have you installed a package before?
[16:01] <lior> yep
[16:01] <zer0her0> wahben: sorry forgot to highlight you on that response
[16:01] <FoolsRun> lior: install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[16:02] <wahben> zer0her0, thanks... I have seen a forum post about some people experiencing overheating cpus....
[16:02] <maniaks> yesterday i installed ubuntu 9.10 x86.. today i can't run this
[16:02] <lior> FoolsRun: all right, that means that I should type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:02] <wahben> that sucks. I really want to run it natively.
[16:02] <FoolsRun> lior: that'll install a host of things including Mp3 capability and Microsoft fonts.
[16:02] <evantandersen_> zer0her0: there is some form of power management, but yes it is limited because apple does not release specs. You can manually set the proccessor voltage if you feel safe doing so
[16:02] <FoolsRun> lior: correct
[16:02] <maniaks> there's just black screen all the time;/
[16:02] <lior> ok, excellent
[16:02] <opnchris> hi
[16:02] <lior> lemme try
[16:02] <varunthacker>  Are there any "powersave" options in gnome for use on a laptop running on battery
[16:02] <zer0her0> i don't know much about it, i run os x on mac hardware and linux on everything else
[16:03] <maniaks> someone can help me?
[16:03] <jiohdi> when my computer restarts it cycles to the ubuntu light monster with the one eye... but then blanks and returns to him over and over again... by pressing keys I eventually get to the boot up screen, but something seems obviously wrong
[16:03] <FoolsRun> lior: it's a guess. I'm thinking maybe your available fonts don't have the math characters you need.
[16:03] <fif0> i have an error in the package of postgres...is it an error of my system?
[16:03] <jamiejackson> jrib: fwiw, the package doesn't exist in karmic because it's old, and it's been replaced by libstdc++6, i believe
[16:03] <maniaks> someone can help me?
[16:03] <evantandersen_> !ask |maniaks
[16:04] <maniaks> when i ran ubuntu today, there's just black screen all the time
[16:04] <lior> FoolsRun: yes, it seems like a reasonable guess
[16:04] <unimatrix9> hello you all
[16:04] <jamiejackson> thx for the source tip tho, jrib
[16:04] <habasch> how can i force a ntfs disk to belong to another user than root when mounting it?
[16:04] <lior> wow
[16:04] <lior> I haven't used IRC in years
[16:04] <erUSUL> !ntfs | habasch
[16:04] <FoolsRun> maniaks: all the time? Even during the boot process?
[16:04] <lior> quite a flashback from middle school
[16:05] <maniaks> hmm
[16:05] <erUSUL> fif0: paste the error message if you want help
[16:05] <maniaks> there's grub, and i click enter
[16:05] <lior> also, all the windows open maximized. Can I change that?
[16:05] <FoolsRun> lior: vanilla ubuntu?
[16:05] <maniaks> for ~10 seconds there's Out of frequency(normal) and all the time black screen..
[16:05] <erUSUL> jiohdi: you should try to boot with splash and quiet removed frm the kernel options so you can see what is going on
[16:05] <habasch> problem is the mounting works fine, only the owner is always root instead ob another user -.-
[16:05] <maniaks> i waited 5 minutes and nothing :/
[16:06] <lior> FoolsRun: it's ubuntu netbook remix
[16:06] <FoolsRun> lior: that's normal in UNR
[16:06] <Darks7ar> Hi. I was wondering what will happen if i install windows after i have linux installed.will this delete my current boot manager? and if so how to recover it?
[16:06] <lior> can I change that somehow?
[16:06] <pozic> How can I configure the standard window manager to open new windows always above all others?
[16:06] <FoolsRun> lior: it's designed to make the best use of your limited screen space
[16:06] <maniaks> frequency out of range* FoolsRun
[16:06] <FoolsRun> lior: it's sorta like having a "tabbed OS"
[16:06] <lior> I know, but now I'm running it connected to a 23" screen
[16:06] <FoolsRun> haha!
[16:06] <fbianconi> habasch: you can make an fstab entry for that partition
[16:07] <lior> so it's not really necessary...
[16:07] <FoolsRun> Yeah I can see how that would be a thing
[16:07] <Darks7ar> Hi. I was wondering what will happen if i install windows after i have linux installed.will this delete my current boot manager? and if so how to recover it?can u help
[16:07] <nonick1> who can help me?
[16:07] <erUSUL> !grub2 | Darks7ar
[16:07] <maniaks> !ask
[16:07] <FoolsRun> I'm not really sure how to disable that. I'd ask the Googs.
[16:07] <habasch> fbianconi: i did but it does not change the owner at all
[16:07] <zer0her0> w0rd so i got home last night and my ubuntu box stated one of my HDDs reported a failing state and i could ok for more info, or hit cancel to dismiss, i hit ok and nothing came up.  where could i go to find this info?
[16:07] <lior> ok, thanks
[16:07] <tom967> >Dark7ar: create a boot cd from a live and boot
[16:07] <FoolsRun> lior: I'm sure it's possible, just never had to. How's the PDF?
[16:08] <erUSUL> Darks7ar: it will remove grub yes. instrucctins on how to recover it in the wiki
[16:08] <Darks7ar> erUSUL: 10x
[16:08] <Guest59661> help
[16:08] <Guest59661> sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[16:08] <tom967> >Dark7ar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[16:08] <Guest59661> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[16:09] <lior> FoolsRun: I'm downloading the package...
[16:09] <FoolsRun> maniaks: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 do you get a command-line interface?
[16:09] <lior> I found something
[16:09] <nonick1> Can anyone check some text for mistakes (I know English very bad)?
[16:09] <maniaks> hmm... i've to check
[16:09] <fbianconi> habasch: in the options field add "uid=1000,gid=1000" or whatever your uid/gid are
[16:09] <nastas> nonick1: paste in the pastebin the text
[16:09] <maniaks> FoolsRun, Recovery mode works
[16:09] <lior> maximus - it's a desktop daemon that maximizes the windows automatically
[16:10] <lior> I see it has exceptions
[16:10] <nonick1> I want post it to brainstorm: Default priority for some processes
[16:10] <nonick1> Some processes that responsible for user interface must have lower nice value
[16:10] <nonick1> Solution
[16:10] <nonick1> Set lower nice value to:
[16:10] <nonick1> gnome-panel
[16:10] <FloodBot4> nonick1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:10] <nonick1> nautilus
[16:10] <habasch> fbianconi: i did but i does not do anything :/ had uid=1000,gid=1000 there. even tried with name (uid=habasch) - did not work either
[16:10] <FoolsRun> lior: so just except everything on your machine ;)
[16:10] <lior> can I tell it to not maximize when there's another screen?
[16:10] <lior> alright, how do I do that?
[16:11] <FoolsRun> lior: I was kidding --you probably want to figure out how to disable it from starting at boot time or login (or whenever it starts). I doubt you can disable it only when another screen is attached.
[16:11] <FoolsRun> lior: I could definitely be wrong though.
[16:11] <nonick1> I want post it to brainstorm: Default priority for some processes Some processes that responsible for user interface must have lower nice value Solution Set lower nice value to: gnome-panel nautilus xorg
[16:11] <lior> ok
[16:11] <nonick1> check it please
[16:11] <maniaks> FoolsRun, it happens after grub update
[16:11] <maniaks> to 1.97 beta 4
[16:12] <FoolsRun> maniaks: the black screen problem happens after the GRUB update?
[16:12] <maniaks> propably..
[16:12] <lior> FoolsRun: the PDF works perfectly!
[16:12] <FoolsRun> maniaks: did you overwrite your grub lst file?
[16:12] <lior> thanks...
[16:12] <FoolsRun> lior: awesome. Glad it worked.
[16:13] <maniaks> it works before i ran update synaptic today... after that i went to school and now it is broken;/
[16:13] <napster> I've a capture card and its not working in Linux! Can anyone help me to fix this? The card is from AVermedia...
[16:13] <FoolsRun> lior: now get all zealous with whomever sent you the PDF and explain how they shouldn't be using proprietary fonts because of FREEDOM!
[16:13] <fbianconi> habasch: assuming you remounted the file system there's nothing else I can think of
[16:14] <habasch> fbianconi: i remounted it dozens of times -.-
[16:14] <lior> FoolsRun: that would be my professor, not sure that would work... They love mathtype
[16:14] <maniaks> ok, i'll be for 5 minutes
[16:15] <emghazal> I have a very old computer, It has Windows ME right now, but I want to try Ubuntu on it (Probably Xubuntu or Lubuntu). The problem is, it only boots from (other than HDD)... wait for it.. Floppy disks! But it can access CDs from a DOS boot disk. Is there any way to do it or should I just give up already?
[16:15] <fif0> how can i fix this error: configure: error: readline library not found
[16:15] <erUSUL> fif0: install the readline dev package
[16:16] <erUSUL> fif0: but you should not be compiling from source
[16:16] <erUSUL> !find libreadline
[16:16] <FoolsRun> lior: ubuntu-restricted-extras is the first thing I put on new installs. Makes things easier when interacting with the real world.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> emghazal, depends, how large is the hard drive and how much ram ?
[16:16] <fif0> i need...i can create a portable postgres
[16:17] <emghazal> 600 Mhz Celeron, 512MB RAM, 20GB HDD.
[16:17] <emghazal> Everything in that computer has been upgraded except the CPU.
[16:17] <erUSUL> emghazal: maybe you can use a grub2 floppy disk image or other bootloader to boot the cdrom
[16:19] <BluesKaj> emghazal, I think ubuntu using the xfce desktop might run ok
[16:20] <nonick1> who can check it for mistakes http://pastebin.com/d659a42ba I want post it to brainstorm, but I know English very bad
[16:20] <breinera> what room is best for asking programming questions?
[16:20] <mguy> BluesKaj: I have installed Linux on a 450MHz P2, 256MB, runs fluxbox real well
[16:20] <mguy> breinera: what language?
[16:20] <emghazal> erUSUL: Hmm.. I'll look into it. Thanks for the pointer.
[16:20] <erUSUL> breinera: one devotes to the language you are using?
[16:20] <breinera> mguy: c  using glib/gtk/clutter
[16:20] <mguy> You could try #c, someone in there should be familiar
[16:21] <Akkernight> how do I check what kernel version I have?
[16:21] <llutz> uname -r
[16:21] <BluesKaj> emghazal, mguy , maybe you guys should discuss
[16:22] <Akkernight> Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.32-020632rc6-generic <- how do I get this version? The page where I see it only shows 32bit, I have 64bit
[16:22] <mguy> I was able to boot from a CD though ;) I haven't booted from a floppy in ages but I could probably help him figure it out, I have the system sitting right here
[16:22] <nonick1> Can anyone check some text for mistakes?
[16:23] <llutz> !ot | nonick1
[16:23] <mguy> Then again I don't have any floppy disks
[16:24] <mikeconcepts> netbook w/win7 starter running ubuntu netbook remix from thumb drive...want to store image of win7 to a network share...what program if installed on ubuntu netbook remix would do this image backup?
[16:24] <erUSUL> mikeconcepts: partimage?
[16:24] <erUSUL> !info partimage
[16:24] <nonick1> ubottu sorry
[16:25] <napster> nonick1, ;)
[16:25] <Bugman> Is not the speaker in Untuntu 10.04 Dailybuild upside down, (shown when installing, and menutext revolves around audio).
[16:25] <fohos_> hello guys
[16:26] <Myrtti> !lucid | Bugman
[16:26] <mikeconcepts> erUSUL: that looks great, now assume as long as universe repository in software sources is selected, I should find partimage via synaptec
[16:26] <erUSUL> mikeconcepts: correct
[16:26] <ionut> hjg
[16:26] <cicloner> i need help: i have this problem when i try to use apt-get ... ---> Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages
[16:26] <mikeconcepts> erUSUL: thanks
[16:26] <Akkernight> how do I open GRUB on boot?
[16:27] <jigger> .
[16:27] <vilkas> how do i boot a cd during boot?
[16:27] <ZykoticK9> Akkernight, hold shift i think
[16:27] <cicloner> i need help: i have this problem when i try to use apt-get ... ---> Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages
[16:27] <yokobr> Pulseaudio SUCKS
[16:28] <tom967> >Akkernight: do you mean "access to the list of kernels to boot?"
[16:28] <erUSUL> yokobr: rants go in #ubuntu-offtopic or /dev/null ;) tyvm
[16:28] <CooPs89> vilkas: try f12, if that doesn't work you have t set the cdrom as the highest boot priority in the bios
[16:28] <Akkernight> tom967, yes
[16:29] <CooPs89> pressing delete on boot usually enters bios setup
[16:29] <vilkas> how do i set it to highest boot priority?
[16:29] <panter>  hi all .. i have problem with automounting NFS4 shares on boot ... i added NFS shares to /etc/fstab .. manualy is everything working .. but after reboot automount doesn't work .... any ideas?
[16:29] <pyJack> hi I can't get a process to access a folder owner by root
[16:29] <erUSUL> !grub2 | vilkas
[16:29] <pyJack> I tried chmod ugo+r -R ./
[16:29] <pyJack> but nothing
[16:29] <tom967> >Akkernight: grub 2 has a new way to let you access this list. You should reset the file according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[16:30] <pyJack> the process is apache, and the user apache uses is www-data
[16:30] <Akkernight> tom967, ok thanks
[16:30] <CooPs89> vilkas: you do it in the bios setup
[16:30] <pyJack> what can I do so apache can read the folder owner by root?
[16:30] <fohos_> if I want to move a a file to my current location in the directory tree, is there a way to do it without repeating the path to my current location
[16:30] <CooPs89> pressing the delete key on boot usually gets there
[16:30] <CooPs89> gets you*
[16:30] <erUSUL> fohos_: copy to .
[16:30] <erUSUL> fohos_: cp /path/to/file .
[16:31] <fohos_> 10x erUSUL :)
[16:31] <erUSUL> fohos_: . is current dir .. is parent dir
[16:31] <erUSUL> fohos_: they even appear in "ls -a" ;P
[16:31] <erUSUL> !cli | fohos_
[16:33] <gisele> 17317317
[16:34] <evantandersen_> does anyone know of a somewhat more advanced linux irc?
[16:34] <evantandersen_> that is popular
[16:34] <tucemiux> evantandersen_, this is ubuntu support channel
[16:35] <Trek> !ot | evantandersen_
[16:35] <raul__> Some problem happened on update... It shows "Unable to authenticate some packages. This may be due to a network problem. You can try again later. Below is a list of unauthenticated packages." What should I do?
[16:35] <evantandersen_> i have a problem, and I'm using ubuntu.... but no one here seems to understand it. However it is a problem that would apply to all versions of linux
[16:36] <BluesKaj> evantandersen_, konversation or quassel are dedicated irc clints for linux , if that's what you are asking
[16:36] <tucemiux> !patience | evantandersen_
[16:36] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: xchat
[16:36] <sipior> evantandersen_: what exactly is the problem?
[16:36] <tucemiux> evantandersen_, repeat your question every now and then ***in one line***
[16:37] <evantandersen_> i do
[16:37] <evantandersen_> but no one understands it, i was simply wondering if there was a more advanced linux users irc you could point me too....
[16:37] <evantandersen_> like an irc channel
[16:37] <lalimace> what is you probleme evantandersen_
[16:37] <ZykoticK9> evantandersen_, you could try ##linux if you'd like...
[16:38] <evantandersen_> I'm having a problem with pam-script.... I posted it here on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401277
[16:38] <tucemiux> evantandersen_, tjat
[16:38] <sirMajid> hi, how can i generate setter and getter for a field automatically
[16:38] <sirMajid> ?
[16:38] <tucemiux> evantandersen_, that's not a problem with ubuntu, that's not even a problem at all, that's clearly off topic
[16:38] <Pici> sirMajid: Are you sure you're asking in the right channel? This is #ubuntu
[16:39] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: what do you spect this line to do ? tag=`'/etc/rfid/RFID-login'`
[16:39] <evantandersen_> it runs a program i wrote
[16:39] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: no; no with the single quotes there
[16:40] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: tag=$(/etc/rfid/RFID-login)
[16:40] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: also why store a program in /etc/ ??
[16:40] <evantandersen_> it was in my home folder... but I feared the pam module wouldn't have access to it there
[16:40] <plunked> quick question - is the address space layout randomisation feature turned on by default in desktop editions of ubuntu?
[16:41] <fohos_> would you please tell me which file is responsible tell webadmin what skin version to display?
[16:41] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: ooops. seems like indeed it runs the command even with the single quotes
[16:42] <alazyworkaholic> I rented a DVD & don't have time to watch it. What's the best app to rip it so I can watch it later?
[16:42] <erUSUL> evantandersen_: sorry
[16:42] <jalons> Good morning, I have a question about sudo (I know, not technically ubuntu) - I have mailto set, and mail_always, but I want to exclude one user (a system account that runs some md5s on some directories) - thoughts on how that'd be accomplished?
[16:42] <guntbert> fohos_: are you talking about webmin? thats not supported/recommened on ubuntu any more
[16:42] <evantandersen_> if I run the script through  the command line manually, (./RFID-login) it works perfectly and produces the desired result... however when pam goes to auth it instantly returns positive! right now anyone can obtain root login on my copmp!
[16:43] <trism> plunked: yes it is; although you can check your system with: sysctl kernel.randomize_va_space
[16:43] <hamzaatova2> how to make vlc to open streams by default?
[16:43] <raul__> Some problem happened on update... It shows "Unable to authenticate some packages. This may be due to a network problem. You can try again later. Below is a list of unauthenticated packages." What should I do?
[16:43] <ouyes> alazyworkaholic, copy the data, you can see it  some other day
[16:43] <trism> plunked: 2 is with heap randomization, 1 is without, 0 is off
[16:43] <ouyes> alazyworkaholic, watch it
[16:43] <philien1> Hi I did the install of an ubuntu server but i've to go in recorvery mode and what is the root default password ?
[16:43] <gerry__> guntbert, it's not recommended? Why?
[16:44] <plunked> trism: ah i see, thank you :)
[16:44] <guntbert> !webmin | gerry__
[16:44] <evantandersen_> alazyworkaholic: handbrake.fr
[16:44] <gerry__> guntbert, cheers :)
[16:44] <FoolsRun> Never get the bright idea to rsync your 1TB of video files from one USB drive to another on the same bus. Take it from me.
[16:45] <guntbert> gerry__: you're welcome :-) but be aware that ebox might not be what you expect as webmin substitute
[16:45] <sebsebseb> !noroot |  philien1
[16:45] <sipior> evantandersen_: what happens if you add a "auth requisite pam_deny.so" to common-auth?
[16:45] <sebsebseb> philien1: #ubuntu-server exists by the way
[16:45] <gerry__> !ebox
[16:45] <evantandersen_> sipior: i have that in my file... sorry I only pasted part of my common_auth file. That line is about two lines down in the file
[16:46] <sipior> evantandersen_: how about posting the whole thing? that will save us all a great deal of wasted time.
[16:46] <guntbert> philien1: you don't need a root password - sudo/gksudo gives you all access you need
[16:47] <mazzid> Does anybody have any suggestions for changing environment variables inherited from gnome-session while gnome is running?
[16:49] <evantandersen_> sipior: sorry, I'm not at my ubuntu machine right now. However, the entire file is defaults, I just added that line before the standard one. the only lines I changed are the ones I posted on the forums
[16:50] <tucemiux> I already have ubuntu up and running.  Is there a way to encrypt a partition that I have on a second hard drive or must I encrypt the entire hard drive and all partitions on it?
[16:51] <evantandersen_> sipor: I understand it is weird asking for support when I am not at my computer, however It has been difficult to find anyone that even understands this stuff. Thanks for your time so far
[16:51] <Akkernight> I have commented out GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT, yet GRUB doesn't show at start up, why?
[16:51] <evantandersen_> do you have the timeout set to 0 seconds?
[16:52] <sipior> evantandersen_: you might try getting rid of try_first_pass, at least for testing, and add an "audit" flag to pam_unix.so/
[16:52] <Akkernight> evantandersen_, no, 10 seconds
[16:52] <evantandersen_> sipor: thanks i'll try that when I get home...
[16:53] <Phurl_> hi all, I have a package that is missing from ubuntu, webkitimageqt. how can i get that distributed?
[16:54] <Mara> I have the only OS ubuntu9.10 and now i want to install Vista from a recovery CD. how do i do that
[16:54] <me___> hiya; i'm running ubuntu netbook remix; i'd like to switch to stock ubuntu; is there an easy way?
[16:54] <FoolsRun> Is it possible to virtualize XP in Ubuntu at startup, as a service rather than an app in X?
[16:56] <emghazal> After looking around the Internet for grub on floppy, I decided I'll try another approach first. If I put the old HDD in a newer computer, install Xubuntu on it, then put it back in the old computer, will that have any problems? Is anything special installed during installation that is computer-dependent? drivers or anything?
[16:56] <erUSUL> emghazal: should no have mayor problems
[16:56] <spazic> emghazal - you should be fine
[16:57] <emghazal> Okay, thanks.
[16:57] <spazic> ethernet might not work but you can config your kernel
[16:57] <usser> FoolsRun, are you using virtualbox?
[16:58] <spazic> but it should - use the same net card if you can. that way you can access online for any packages you may need
[16:58] <|-_-|> hello all
[16:58] <FoolsRun> usser: I'm not using anything yet
[16:58] <llutz> FoolsRun: read about Xen
[16:58] <FoolsRun> llutz: will do, thanks
[16:58] <|-_-|> spazic ___ hello OO
[16:58] <usser> FoolsRun, virtualbox has a headless mode when you start your vm from cmd and then connect to it using standard rdp protocol
[16:59] <napster> How to get a capture card working? Does any driver software needed?
[16:59] <Mara> I have the only OS ubuntu9.10 and now i want to install Vista from a recovery CD. how do i do that?
[16:59] <FoolsRun> usser: and it starts when the host machine boots and everything?
[17:00] <napster> Mara, In that case you may have to restore your grub dude...
[17:00] <usser> FoolsRun, you can put the start command in /etc/rc.local for example
[17:00] <ZykoticK9> FoolsRun, getting VirtualBox to start at boot is non-trivial - i tried and failed, hope you have better luck then I did...
[17:00] <spazic> hello <|-_-|>
[17:00] <Mara> how do i restore my grub then
[17:00] <usser> ZykoticK9, FoolsRun it is trivial
[17:00] <usser> :)
[17:00] <|-_-|> spazic ___ Russia :D
[17:01] <ZykoticK9> usser, really? and what shuts the machines off when you reboot/shutdown?
[17:01] <napster> Mara, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[17:01] <napster> Mara, Hope this helps...
[17:01] <usser> ZykoticK9, well you didnt mention anything about shutting down :), yea you have to do it manually
[17:02] <usser> ZykoticK9, but i rarely restart my VM server
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> usser, there have been various scripts that I've tried but nothing "totally" worked
[17:02] <ZykoticK9> usser, my VM server is my desktop
[17:03] <FoolsRun> I'm just running XP to run Office to run an obsolete calendar connector app, shutting down cleanly is not a concern ;)
[17:03] <Nostatement> G'day partypeople!
[17:03] <fewf> Hi, is there any way to get more virtual desktops in 9.10? I have two, but that screws up Compiz's desktop cube :(
[17:04] <Nostatement> I'm looking for a nice musiceditor, any suggestions?
[17:04] <guntbert> !hi | Nostatement
[17:04] <erUSUL> fewf: right click on the switcher choose properties
[17:04] <erUSUL> preferences
[17:04] <FoolsRun> fewf: You don't like the 2-dimensional "cube"?
[17:04] <erUSUL> Nostatement: music editor as score editor? or sound editor?
[17:04] <usser> ZykoticK9, here you can write an init script for shutdown/reboot runlevel that does VBoxManage controlvm "WinXP" acpipowerbutton
[17:05] <usser> ZykoticK9, that should gracefully terminate a VM
[17:05] <fewf> erUSUL: switcher?
[17:05] <erUSUL> fewf: the applet that lets you switch from one workspace to the other. riht botton corner next to the trash
[17:06] <gerry__> guntbert, what rule did Nostatement break?
[17:06] <Moose> Is there an easy way to take an existing Ubuntu install and basically convert it over to the server version?
[17:06] <Nostatement> erUSUL: Well, i want to record some guitar and be able to put some effects, add some drums and a bit of poor song
[17:06]  * `mOOse` looks up
[17:06] <Moose> My situation is that I don't have the server edition disks and I have no CD-RWs to burn an image, heh.
[17:06] <ZykoticK9> usser, thanks for the input - i do understand the general idea, i've just never gotten a script to work correctly.
[17:06] <Akkernight> ok, so I got the GRUB screen, but all my kernels aren't there. And I did do sudo update-grub
[17:06] <Moose> `mOOse`: Hi there :)
[17:07] <`mOOse`> !!!
[17:07] <`mOOse`> mOO!
[17:07] <guntbert> gerry__: none - I wanted to tell him the purpose of this channel (it really was just Hi :-))
[17:07] <erUSUL> !info ardour | Nostatement
[17:07] <erUSUL> !info jakosher | Nostatement
[17:07] <FoolsRun> "Doing initial module builds" for virtualbox takes a while.
[17:07] <gerry__> guntbert, oh cool :)
[17:07] <fewf> erUSUL: according to the help I'm supposed to see a "number of workspaces" area; i don't though, all I see is number of rows and number of collums
[17:08] <erUSUL> !info jokosher | Nostatement
[17:08] <fewf> ah, nvm, here we go
[17:08] <philien1> how to boot in consol mode with the live cd ?
[17:08] <Nostatement> erUSUL: Great! I'll check it out. Many thanks, big ups !
[17:09] <erUSUL> Nostatement: even audacious should be able to do it....; shouldn't it?
[17:09] <guntbert> philien1: you boot normally, then you use either a terminal windoow or you switch with <ctrl><alt>F2 to a virtual terminal
[17:10] <Nostatement> erUSUL: Well, i haven't tried any program yet so i thought it would be nice for some opinion :). I'll check these out and hopefully 'es all goood
[17:10] <me___> if i run UNR, can i switch to regular ubuntu easily?
[17:10] <chris__> hey
[17:11] <erUSUL> Nostatement: well try the last two. ardour is supposed to be big and professional == a pain to set up
[17:11] <guntbert> !pm | philien1
[17:11] <LordHawke13> Hi guys. I have an interesting problem.
[17:12] <hamzaatova2> why dows ff does not restore the tabs after crash?
[17:12] <guntbert> philien1: whats the problem with temporarily starting X ?
[17:12] <LordHawke13> I'm trying to use a conditional statement in a shell script to perform an action if ANY file with the extension .rcproject exists.
[17:12] <philien1> this so long
[17:13] <LordHawke13> I use if [ -d *.rcproject ] To test for directories endind in .rcproject, but if more than one item fits the conditions, if won't work.
[17:13] <Mara> I have the only ubuntu9.10 and now i want to install Vista from a recovery CD. how do i run the recovery on boot?
[17:13] <LordHawke13> Please help me.
[17:13] <Jooder492> can someone help me with a thunderbird question?
[17:14] <LordHawke13> Anyone have any ideas?
[17:14] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: if [[ -ef *.rcproject ]]; then ....; else .... ; fi
[17:14] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: files or directories ?
[17:14] <plunked> LordHawke13: if($entry =~ /.*.rcproject/) would work i think
[17:14] <Jooder492> how do i get hotmail on my thunderbird?
[17:14] <LordHawke13> Directories
[17:14] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: but more an better help is on #bash
[17:14] <plunked> not sure if it work in a shell script though
[17:14] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: if [[ -ed *.rcproject ]]; then ....; else .... ; fi
[17:14] <eXp`iRc|1514> Ciao amici di #ubuntu !!
[17:15] <Bilaw> hey  there, er, trouble w/ balsa and çw
[17:15] <philien1> guntbert: this so long
[17:15] <Bilaw> ds
[17:15] <Bilaw> ds
[17:15] <Bilaw> tw
[17:15] <eXp`iRc|1514> !list
[17:15] <FloodBot4> Bilaw: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:15] <pickuell> hi zusammem
[17:15] <Bilaw> (sorry! Cat around…)
[17:15] <guntbert> philien1: in the meantime you would have booted completely already :)
[17:15] <jsec> Jooder492, http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_free_hotmail.htm
[17:16] <usser> erUSUL, that wont work shell expands * making the entire if statement invalid
[17:16] <guntbert> !de | pickuell
[17:16] <Jooder492> thank you jsec
[17:16] <Mara> I have the only ubuntu9.10 on the PC. and now i want to install Vista from a recovery CD. how do i run the recovery on boot? any1 have an answer?
[17:16] <LordHawke13> if [[ -ed *.rcproject ]] always returned false
[17:16] <jsec> Mara, set your BIOS to boot CD first and restart?
[17:17] <llutz> Mara: start the cd and start it
[17:17] <macman_> there a way to have my desktop arrange icons by name ? i looked in gconf-editor and i dont' think i saw that option
[17:17] <erUSUL> usser: thnaks
[17:17] <candy> Mara, put recovery cd and follow instructoins
[17:17] <Mara> it wont run . i get error when i start it
[17:17] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: see what usser said to me
[17:18] <llutz> Mara: what error?
[17:18] <thelastdodo> Seeing as this is a support channel, do any of you happen to know if there's something like a general discussion channel for Ubuntu or even Linux in general?
[17:18] <padhu> Multiple SSL Certification with multiple name based virtual host with single ip & port is possible in apache2.2.11 with out sni ?
[17:18] <candy> Mara, may be your cd problem
[17:18] <erUSUL> thelastdodo: #linux ?
[17:18] <LordHawke13> erUSUL, Is there a way to do it?
[17:18] <Bilaw> Sorry again: Balsa won’t send my messages. Claims «sending message with gpg 0» (translated from fr) but message remains in outbox. Problem is I never asked to use gpg (nor gnugpg nor seahorse), and have no idea what to undo… Advice, anyone?
[17:18] <usser> LordHawke13, i suppose you could do something like DIR=`ls | grep .rcproject | head -n 1` and then if [ "$DIR" != "" ] ; then
[17:19] <erUSUL> LordHawke13: again ask in #bash
[17:19] <thelastdodo> erUSUL: Well, that seems to be most tech support as well. Ah well, I'll keep looking around, thanks.
[17:19] <LordHawke13> I can't talk in #bash
[17:19] <LordHawke13> It says couldn't send to channel
[17:19] <usser> LordHawke13, but yea ask in #bash cause my solution looks weird even to myself
[17:19] <marek_> thelastdodo: just check sourceforge and others for help...
[17:19] <iceroot> LordHawke13: then register your nick
[17:20] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, is it possible to make sure that my external harddrive always gets the same device name, no matter how many other usb mass storage devices are plugged in?
[17:20] <usser> !udev
[17:20] <Mara> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d6170676f  thats the error
[17:20] <llutz> SmokeyD: create an udev-rule for it
[17:20] <marek_> hey guys. can somebody please tell me if karmic koala server edition is a good choice for server?
[17:21] <usser> marek_, no. it is not
[17:21] <cfedde> usser: how so?
[17:21] <m0ar_> Not really
[17:21] <`mOOse`> marek_: are you trying to run vista IN ubuntu?
[17:21] <marek_> thanx, and what would you choose?
[17:21] <llutz> Mara: reboot your PC, start it from CD
[17:21] <padhu> usser: why?
[17:21] <xfact> Hello
[17:21] <SmokeyD> llutz: ok, gonna google creating udev rules (I know udev a little, just didn't know you could make rules). Thanks a lot!
[17:21] <`mOOse`> ooops
[17:21] <llutz> Mara: you cannot run this from within ubuntu
[17:21] <usser> cfedde, for server you'd want something with support like 8.04 LTS
[17:21] <`mOOse`> Mara: are you trying to run vista IN ubuntu?
[17:21] <usser> !lts
[17:21] <usser> padhu, ^
[17:22] <Mara> `mOOse`: yes i understand . but thats the only OS i have
[17:22] <marek_> no no. just trying to set up a complete server for a firm using linux. but im not sure which one to use
[17:22] <cfedde> usser: ah.  an LTS issue. That's fair
[17:22] <Mara> `mOOse`: and i need to install Vista
[17:22] <llutz> Mara: reboot your PC, start it from recovery CD
[17:22] <xfact> Any benchmark tools available that shows the CPU temperature?
[17:23] <Mara> llutz: i have no choices when i reboot
[17:23] <llutz> Mara: enter system BIOS, change boot-order
[17:23] <dingus9> open office background cell color not displaying? any thoughts... this seems to be an ubuntu issue... but I am not sure
[17:23] <yokobr> hi guys
[17:23] <llutz> Mara: read system-manual how
[17:24] <xfact> Any benchmark tools available for Ubuntu that shows the CPU temperature?
[17:24] <marek_> so could you guys please tell me which distro would be most suitable for a server with web hosting, file sharing through network and hosting email?
[17:24] <cfedde> marek_: if you want ubuntu then go with 8.04.4 lts.
[17:24] <yokobr> please, i have a gps wich connects with usb cable. In windows i can open it (it has an SD card) with activesync, but i can't find a way in linux. I need to browse and edit the files inside.
[17:25] <`mOOse`> Mara: how old is your computer?
[17:25] <cfedde> marek_: any distro will do but you'll continue getting patches for the lts for several years.
[17:25] <Mara> `mOOse`: its like 3 years old alienware
[17:25] <cfedde> s/distro/rev/
[17:25] <llutz> yokobr: use gpsbabel if your gps doesn't use mass-storage-mode
[17:25] <marek_> cfedde-thank you. but im not strictly heading for ubuntu. would you choose the 8.04 yourself of all?
[17:26] <`mOOse`> ok, so then it should have a bios setting to set the boot order for cdrom/usb/hd etc
[17:26] <xfact> Mara: alienware! Nice!
[17:26] <Guest59661> help
[17:26] <Guest59661> sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[17:26] <Guest59661> debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[17:26] <`mOOse`> and/or an Fkey for one-time changing boot order
[17:26] <cfedde> marek_: you want advice to use a different distro from a ubuntu channel?
[17:26] <xfact>  Any benchmark tools available for Ubuntu that shows the CPU/HDD temperature?
[17:26] <llutz> !repeat | xfact
[17:26] <cfedde> marek_: I have about 40 ubuntu servers of different types in production right now.
[17:26] <mguy> xfact: check out conky
[17:26] <Myrtti> xfact: lm-sensors
[17:26] <marek_> no. not at all:) sorry for than mate
[17:27] <marek_> just wanted to be sure
[17:27] <Myrtti> xfact: you can hook different tools to monitor what they output
[17:27] <dingus9> marek_: Go ubuntu... second Centos(free RHEL) but ubuntu is better p;
[17:27] <cfedde> marek_: it is our current distro of choice for things that do not require licensed os.
[17:27] <padhu> xfact: lm-sensors , It is great
[17:27] <govind> पाततद
[17:27] <govind> hello
[17:27] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hi i encrypted a file using kgpg in 4096 bitrate, now i see in the options the capability of exporting/importing passwords from servers, so question is: how can i make sure the pass i created is private and im the only one who knows it and it havent been exported?
[17:27] <yokobr> llutz, i wasn't able to use it... I've tryied, but i can't understand it.
[17:28] <marek_> thank you very much guys. all of you and wish you a nice rest of the day
[17:28] <xfact> Myrtti: I just want to know my CPU temperature updates, like in Windows 'speed-fan' app
[17:28] <llutz> yokobr: what model is your gps-device?
[17:28] <ekim1> cfedde, what do you mean by 40 servers in production now?  Do you build and sell?
[17:28] <`mOOse`> marek_: mine will be a lot nicer when I get out of this place :-)
[17:28] <govind> how to add a option in the dropdown menu in linux
[17:28] <yokobr> llutz, Apontador Slimway
[17:28] <mguy> xfact: sudo apt-get install conky
[17:28] <klappi> hm why dont app maximize properly anymore? http://imagebin.org/83903
[17:28] <yokobr> with IGO navigator
[17:28] <Myrtti> xfact: you get any kind of information from the cpu/hdd temps you need lm-sensors.
[17:28] <xfact> padhu, lm-sensors, is that a command or any app?
[17:28] <capron> xfact,  lm-senesor
[17:29] <ekim1> hello all
[17:29] <xfact> capron, How to install lm-sensor?
[17:29] <filip89> i want repair my sound
[17:29] <cfedde> ekim1: I work for a bigish company. about 30 are vmware guests.
[17:29] <capron> xfact,  try apt-get
[17:29] <padhu> xfact: application is available
[17:29] <ZykoticK9> klappi, i'd ask the same question in #kubuntu
[17:29] <govind> how to edit dropdown menu
[17:30] <klappi> ZykoticK9: ok ty
[17:30] <ekim1> cfedde, oh, you had my attention cause i want one...:D
[17:30] <xfact> lm-sensor available in Ubuntu repos?
[17:30] <filip89> in volume control it shows me device Playback: Null output
[17:30] <flourinex> xfact: to install it, sudo apt-get install lm-sensor
[17:30] <cfedde> ekim1: server? for what use?
[17:30] <cfedde> ekim1: lots of companies do linux if you want to buy somehting.
[17:31] <morgan> Hello all! Quick query - hibernate just stopped working with 9.10, after an upgrade. Now the machine just freezes. Acer Aspire One 531 - was working well prior to this.
[17:31] <yokobr> llutz, http://www.apontadorgps.com.br/slim/
[17:31] <ekim1> cfedde, yes, a server...mainly for file server but web dev later.  Dont want to pay top $$$ for one..too rich for my blood.
[17:32] <cfedde> ekim1:  any old box will work at home.  If you want it "on the internet" go with one of the cheap vps servers.
[17:32] <gerry__> I don't see the point in using 8.10 for a new server just because it's LTS as the next LTS comes out in 2 months. Surely the upgrade path would be a lot easier from Karmic?
[17:32] <ZykoticK9> gerry__, 80 days today actually
[17:32] <gerry__> But I'm a noob so please correct me
[17:33] <xfact> I am using Ubuntu karmic and it saying, 'Couldn't find package lm-sensor'. :(
[17:33] <Pelo> xfact, lm-sensors
[17:33] <mido_> hi all
[17:33] <cfedde> gerry__: it's a timing thing.
[17:33] <reto`> xfact: use 'aptitude search xxx' if you want to find something
[17:33] <bu> hi
[17:34] <Jooder492> is there a way to get facebook chat on pidgin>
[17:34] <Pelo> Jooder492, try asking in #pidgin
[17:34] <Jooder492> ok thanks
[17:34] <bu> cześć wszystkim
[17:34] <Myrtti> Jooder492: are you using karmic?
[17:34] <ZykoticK9> Jooder492, http://code.google.com/p/pidgin-facebookchat/
[17:34] <ekim1> cfedde, I like the idea about an old box for cost wise but will checkout the vps idea.  I am new to linux and dont know how to set one up.
[17:35] <sudobash> is there any support for multi-gesture touchpad's in Ubuntu?
[17:35] <mido_> guyz.. does any body know how to make backtrack automatic to connect to the internet without type /etc/init.d/networking start     each time I run it??
[17:35] <Myrtti> Jooder492: if so, you can install pidgin-facebookchat from the package management
[17:35] <ZykoticK9> Jooder492, install the DEB from the site, the one in repo on Karmic doesn't seem to work (it does in lucid mind you)
[17:35] <gerry__> ZykoticK9, can't wait :)
[17:35] <cfedde> ekim1: get some implementation experience on some old 586 you have laying around.
[17:35] <llutz> mido_: backtrack isn't intended to do so, change /etc/network/interfaces if you want
[17:35] <bu> ja pierdu co to jest
[17:35] <bu> ?
[17:36] <padhu> xfact: i am in Ubuntu 8.10
[17:36] <`mOOse`> anyone have a suggestions on a pix viewer? I'm using xubuntu and the default one is pretty basic. I'm looking for something like Irfanview or close. Thanks
[17:36] <Pici> !pl | bu
[17:36] <mido_> thanx for helping llutz
[17:36] <ekim1> cfedde, I have to pc just lacking the knowledge and have been reading/surfing for a long time...gets frustrating.
[17:36] <steve_> please can someone assist me
[17:36] <sudobash> you a good cheap linux box you can get for $29 is an original xbox you can even run a webserver on it
[17:36] <xfact> padhu, What are you doing there? It's not even supported, at least 9.04....
[17:36] <reesefrancis> if I want to execute a command with crontab which requires a Y/N confirmation, how can I do it?
[17:37] <cfedde> ekim1: the easiest thing to do is to burn a CD then boot from it.
[17:37] <BluesKaj> !ask | steve_
[17:37] <xfact> pelo, lm-sensors, installed thanks
[17:37] <lesshaste>  I know this is a dumb question but someone has done something to make the fonts teeeny in gmail (using firefox 3.0.17). All other windows are normal
[17:37] <steve_> i have a nvidia mx440 and it will not work corectly with ubuntu 97 drivers its stuck on a small resolution and can not be changed
[17:37] <cfedde> ekim1: or find the local linux group.  I bet they have an install fest.
[17:37] <xfact> Thanks everyone for help :D
[17:37] <reesefrancis> lesshaste, ctrl +
[17:37] <KaiForce> steve_ wow those go way back
[17:37] <sudobash> steve_ you may need to add a resolution line in xorg.conf
[17:38] <padhu> xfact: Debian package should be available, No chance for missing.
[17:38] <lesshaste> reesefrancis: ah yes :) thanks!
[17:38] <gerry__> `mOOse`, I like gThumb
[17:38] <steve_> i have tryed but its not playing
[17:38] <capron> xfact , Then you need to config it too run sensor-detect hop it finds lot of temps
[17:38] <KaiForce> steve_ I think I may have one laying around
[17:38] <`mOOse`> gerry__: thanks - I'll check it out
[17:38] <Pelo> steve_ install nvidia-settings,  that should allowyou to make modifications easily
[17:38] <ekim1> cfedde, I tried that awhile ago but they are all pretty efficient at it and seems like I was kinda ignored as I didnt know nothing.
[17:38] <Pelo> later folks
[17:39] <gerry__> `mOOse`, yw
[17:39] <sudobash> is there any support for multi gesture touchpads?
[17:39] <steve_> kaiforce any help would be mega apprciated as i have litrly try evryint
[17:39] <inveratulo> sudobash: any idea how many kwh to run an xbox a month?
[17:40] <padhu> xfact: i installed lm_sensors and i2c and sensors-applet 2.2.1
[17:40] <steve_> nvidia setting are installed
[17:40] <sofiankrt> good evening everyone
[17:40] <sudobash> no i dont run them all the time, I just have one that makes me money
[17:40] <iceroot> inveratulo: look at the manual, also this is ubuntu-support
[17:40] <steve_> but still only 2 resolutions to chouse from and boath are very small
[17:40] <`mOOse`> gerry__: this looks like it might do the trick - thanks again
[17:40] <ekim1> cfedde, but thanks for the info anyway.
[17:41] <xfact> WOW,configuring it is complicated :(
[17:41] <sofiankrt> I have accessed a CD drive on another computer and have it mounted as a directory on my machine. It's an audio CD that I'd like to listen to. However, all the files show up as .cda files. Is there anyway I could make my box treat it as a CD drive and thus interpret the .cda files correctly?
[17:41] <candy> in which language linux is written??
[17:41] <sudobash> steve_ paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf in pastebin
[17:42] <sudobash> C/C++/Assembly I believe candy
[17:42] <gerry__> `mOOse`,  glad you like it. I used to use on windows Irfan before switching to XnView. I really wish that still supported.
[17:42] <iceroot> candy: c and asm
[17:42] <iceroot> sudobash: no c++
[17:42] <reto`> candy: mostly C, linux is the kernel... gnu is most of the rest
[17:42] <sudobash> ahh no c++ how come?
[17:42] <candy> iceroot, what is asm??
[17:42] <inveratulo> assembly
[17:42] <iceroot> candy: assembler
[17:42] <sudobash> machine code
[17:42] <erUSUL> candy: the kernel in C + assembly
[17:42] <KERN_INFO> Hi! After switching to Gentoo from Ubuntu, I feel as if I'm a free bird. I want your opinion on this.
[17:42] <sofiankrt> candy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_kernel that should help. Says it's in a version of C supported by GCC
[17:42] <iceroot> sudobash: no need for c++ in a kernel /hardware-near program
[17:43] <xfact> well, now how to run lm-sensors?
[17:43] <llutz> !ot > KERN_INFO
[17:43] <KaiForce> KERN_INFO yes you are a free bird
[17:43] <erUSUL> !sensors | xfact
[17:43] <xfact> I have installed and configured it by terminal
[17:43] <`mOOse`> gerry__:  yes, I know exactly - yer stuck between needing a viewer that does more than show you a thumbnail and photoshop...something that's versatile yet not a steamhammer
[17:43] <steve_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/371870/
[17:44] <sofiankrt> does anyone know how I can mount a remote CD drive as a *local* CD drive?
[17:44] <sudobash> yeah I think you may need a resolution line in there holf on
[17:44] <sudobash> hold on
[17:44] <steve_> but i have forced the wrong drivers at the minuet so that i can default a good resolution
[17:44] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: export the cd via samba ? nfs?
[17:44] <steve_> do you want me to set the 97 drivers ?
[17:44] <sudobash> well the resolution line has to be perfect or it probably wont work
[17:44] <okc> hiii
[17:44] <KERN_INFO> KaiForce, please explain
[17:44] <sudobash> 96 you mean?
[17:45] <sofiankrt> erUSUL: what I basically have is a remote directory I can access via samba full of .cda files that I'm not sure what I should do with
[17:45] <Welshy-Rob> anyone know what this means E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[17:45] <steve_> yes sorry
[17:45] <steve_> 96
[17:45] <sudobash> yeah set 96 drivers and uninstall anything else
[17:45] <steve_> i will be back in a minuet
[17:45] <ZykoticK9> KERN_INFO, ask your same question in #ubuntu-offtopic - this is the support channel
[17:45] <Guest49794> hey jst installed ubuntu 9.04 inside windows in my hp pavillion laptop but getin no sound
[17:45] <okc> i am not getting sound in ubuntu. can u help me?
[17:45] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: cda are similar to wav. you can convert them easily to mp3 or burn them again in a cdrom
[17:45] <Guest49794> plz help
[17:45] <KERN_INFO> ok
[17:45] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: is an audiocd that's why it is full of cda files
[17:46] <sofiankrt> erUSUL: what kind of application should I use to play them?
[17:46] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: any player should be able to play them but never tried myself
[17:46] <capron> xfact , I also installed lm-sensor ,  But it only find coretemp I was hoping for more wood bi nice to have disktemp , and vgatemp too
[17:46] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: as i said it is just wav with a different header
[17:46] <grendal_prime> i need to start testing upgrades from 804 to new lts that has not been officially released.  Is there a way to get my hands on lucid yet?
[17:47] <grendal_prime> new lts is Lucid right?
[17:47] <erUSUL> !lucid | grendal_prime
[17:47] <iceroot> grendal_prime: #ubuntu+1
[17:47] <xfact> capron, sensor-applet show those
[17:47] <iceroot> grendal_prime: lucid has no feature-freeze so its useless to test upgrading
[17:47] <breinera> where is a good place to ask questions about c programming using glip, gtk, clutter (I was told #c, but when I tried to join it told me I needed to be invited), so where now?
[17:47] <breinera> *glib
[17:47] <sofiankrt> erUSUL: I tried that, but the problem is, the cda files (according to what I read) are basically files that indicate where on a CD the song is, rather than encoding the song itself. Each file is about 44 bytes in size. So what I thought was, maybe I should try to get my machine to treat this remote directory as a local CD drive, but I have no idea how to go about doing it
[17:48] <EmilioTucci> Hi all
[17:48] <xguru_> how do i change the video settings in one kernel from another?  the kernel i'm on now works fine, but when i try a newer one it bombs on a radeon driver which it shouldn't be loading
[17:48] <capron> xfact thanks I will try that
[17:48] <okc> i installed ubuntu 9.04 in my system but i am not getting sound in ubuntu. can you help me?
[17:48] <EmilioTucci> What does mean "Go forth and sin no more"? I saw it in my X-Console?
[17:48] <EmilioTucci> (I am spanish)
[17:48] <skrite> msg /nickserv identify bitsbam
[17:48] <guntbert> breinera: the channel you want is ##c (not #c)
[17:48] <padhu> okc: any error messages?
[17:49] <Pici> skrite: You should change your password now.  Also, do not identify in channel windows
[17:49] <breinera> guntbert: supposdly I am banned from ##c, but I have never been there
[17:49] <guntbert> skrite: oops - choose another password
[17:49] <xfact> capron, sudo apt-get install lm-sensors sensors-applet, it's a gnome applet for temperature updates, including fan speed
[17:49] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: maybe your only option is nbd but i do not thinka cd ripping program will work over a network
[17:50] <grendal_prime> bummer
[17:50] <guntbert> breinera: ask the ops of that channel - you will get help how to do that in #freenode
[17:50] <steve_> im back with 96 driver working with 640x480 resolution
[17:50] <okc> padhu: no. all types of audio and video files are playing but with no sound.
[17:50] <sofiankrt> erUSUL: how exactly does Ubuntu treat CD's? Can't I pipe my remote directory to whichever virtual device it considers a CD?
[17:50] <grendal_prime> anyone familiar with the lts dist upgrade process? has it been painless in the past?
[17:51] <sildur> Je vous haistous !!!!
[17:51] <erUSUL> !fr
[17:51] <skrite> Pici, guntert, dammit, how do i change my pass, never came up before?
[17:51] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: you are asking to much imho
[17:51] <alabd> what's the problem with vlc ? vlc 'mms:62.220.122.12/tv5' with command can not open it but in gui mode it can
[17:51] <sofiankrt> erUSUL: it cannot be done?
[17:51] <Pici> skrite: /msg nickserv help set password
[17:51] <sildur> I HATE YOU !!!
[17:51] <steve_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/371879/
[17:51] <skrite> thanks
[17:52]  * spazic hates HATE
[17:52] <sudobash> steve also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=423438
[17:52] <guntbert> sildur: stop that please
[17:52] <breinera> guntbert: thanks
[17:52] <erUSUL> sofiankrt: as i said you can try to use nbd (network block device) but again ripping software uses low level access something that will fail over a network
[17:53] <guntbert> breinera: np
[17:53] <sofiankrt> erUSUL: ok. Thanks a lot for your help, anyway
[17:53] <sudobash> look at the bottom of the screen steve and check this out: http://pastebin.com/d75dee520
[17:53] <padhu> okc: let us examine. first, our kernel smells any hardware?; #lspci | more   ; this will listout the hardwares found by kernel. just check it.
[17:53] <riku_> hey jst installed ubuntu 9.04 inside windows in my HP pavillion notebook and getin no sound
[17:53] <riku_> plz help
[17:54] <Guest> assaa
[17:54] <Hexxeh> Hi
[17:54] <Guest> thank u
[17:54] <sudobash> you may need to change those resolutions there to fit the ones for your screen but that line is what you need to force resolution in xorg
[17:54] <Hexxeh> Does anyone know of a way of building the nVidia non-free kernel module on a 64-bit box for a 32-bit target?
[17:54] <overmind> Guest: Do you need help?
[17:54] <Guest> #india
[17:55] <sudobash> actually I think those resolutions should work for generic monitors
[17:55] <okc> padhu: no output for #lspci
[17:55] <riku_> hey jst installed ubuntu 9.04 inside windows in my HP pavillion notebook and getin no sound
[17:55] <riku_> .... plz help
[17:56] <padhu> sudo lspci | more
[17:56] <reto`> riku_: inside windows? how? wubi?
[17:56] <sartan> Heya, what ubuntu script will update grubs menu.lst based on the installed kernels?  I had to delete a few in the interests of disk space, and would like to use something automatic to update the file
[17:56] <Myrtti> sartan: how did you delete them?
[17:56] <riku_> reto':yes wubi
[17:56] <sartan> pixies.
[17:56] <sartan> what's the script i'm looking for?
[17:57] <Myrtti> sartan: fine, ask the pixies for help then.
[17:57] <padhu> Mytti: deactive using # as prefix
[17:57] <sartan> I don't want to be rude, but linux channels often have a habit of twisting a question around in such an irrelevant way.
[17:57] <Pici> sartan: if you use apt-get/dpkg to delete them then their post-uninstall scripts will remove them from the appropriate bootloaders.
[17:57] <Hexxeh> sartan: grub-update or something
[17:57] <erUSUL> sartan: sudo update-grub
[17:57] <sartan> Answer the question and don't invent a new problem that doesn't exist
[17:57] <Hexxeh> or that
[17:57] <Myrtti> sartan: had you removed the kernel with a package manager like aptitude, apt-get or synaptic, the script updating the grub would have been run
[17:57] <sartan> Thanks! update-grub it is
[17:57] <Hexxeh> wrong way round, my bad
[17:57] <reto`> !sound > riku_
[17:57] <steve_> lol how do i open the xorg with root permisions ?
[17:57]  * erUSUL o.0!
[17:58] <reto`> riku_: see there if you can find some help... if not... come back here
[17:58] <Aijse> steve, in terminal: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:58] <dr-nicto> Hi I get this error while opening playonlinux -you dont seem to have 3d accelleration I can do the glxinfo | grep render command if anyone wants to help
[17:58] <sudobash> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:58] <steve_> thank you
[17:59] <LordHawke> How do I hide file extensions with LS
[17:59] <Pici> LordHawke: You don't.
[17:59] <sudobash> yeah thats kind of a bad practice
[17:59] <llutz> LordHawke: they are part of the name, you cannot hide
[17:59] <guntbert> LordHawke: LS?
[17:59] <LordHawke> $ ls
[17:59] <Pici> LordHawke: extensions have no special meaning in Linux
[18:00] <llutz> LordHawke: rename you files to get rid of extensions
[18:00] <LordHawke> Pici, It'd be UNIX in general. It's all BASH and SH
[18:00] <dr-nicto> Hi I get this error while opening playonlinux -you dont seem to have 3d accelleration
[18:00] <LordHawke> I want 'ls' to hide the .rcproject of every file it lists.
[18:00] <LordHawke> Any way?
thnx !!
[18:01] <LordHawke> And I can't get rid of the extension. . .
[18:01] <reto`> riku_: yw
[18:01] <erUSUL> LordHawke: no way; people already answered you
[18:01] <LordHawke> BTW, they're directories.
[18:01] <steve_> brb
[18:01] <steve_> reboot
[18:01] <jrib> LordHawke: you could always write your own ls I guess
[18:01] <LordHawke> =_=
[18:01] <LordHawke> Thanks. Not the answer I wanted but the answer NTL. . .
[18:03] <dr-nicto> I get this error while opening playonlinux -you dont seem to have 3d accelleration
[18:03] <mawst> PlayonLinux?
[18:03] <mawst> Sounds like cedega
[18:03] <reto`> dr-nicto: that means your graphics card either has no 3d accel. or it is not enabled
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> maweki, it's a GUI frontend to wine for some games/apps
[18:04] <Arabus> hey, where can i learn about all the rpocess states "ps ax" outputs to me? I find a lot of documentation about S, R and Z, but SN or SNW is not explained anywhere I searched. :-(
[18:04] <Arabus> *process states
[18:04] <dr-nicto> I Installed the Graphics driver from the nvidia website and uninstalled it it might have messed up the xorg.conf
[18:05] <steve_> nope
[18:05] <steve_> not haveing it
[18:05] <steve_> im in default again
[18:05] <gerry__> `mOOse`, actually I take it back, it seems XnView is now working on a version called XnViewMP (MP == Multi-Platform) and while it currently looks crap in gnome, it runs very fast
[18:05] <Garnasha> now I really wonder what other channel I've used is hosted on freenode...
[18:05] <gerry__> `mOOse`, oops forgot the linkage http://newsgroup.xnview.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=18545
[18:05] <Garnasha> anyway, hi people, I'm new
[18:06] <tylor> Quick question. I was wondering if there is any kind of battery maintnence program for ubuntu?
[18:06] <mawst> I have this irritating problem that full screen games that start in 800x600 put my monitor sync out of range
[18:06] <Garnasha> battery maintenance?
[18:06] <reto`> !welcome | Garnasha
[18:06] <Garnasha> as in, laptop batteries?
[18:06] <tylor> Yeah.
[18:07] <Garnasha> activate the noticifation area
[18:07] <Garnasha> should be active by default
[18:07] <Garnasha> if it doesn't appear there
[18:07] <Garnasha> sec, going through the relevant menu's
[18:07] <Garnasha> *menus
[18:07] <`mOOse`> ahh...thanks gerry__  :-
[18:07] <`mOOse`> )
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> Garnasha, i think tylor is talking more about "battery calibration" type stuff - discharging/charging the battery several times (i'm guessing)
[18:07] <reto`> tylor: maintenance? what do you mean?
[18:08] <AegNuddel> How do I get Ubuntu to recognize my sound card?
[18:08] <Arabus> hey, where can I learn about all the process states "ps ax" outputs to me? I find a lot of documentation about S, R and Z, but SN or SNW is not explained anywhere I searched. :-(
[18:08] <Garnasha> ah right
[18:08] <xguru_> tylor: do you me charge and discharge to "exercise" the battery for longer life?
[18:08] <Garnasha> nevermind then, didn't say anything
[18:08] <tylor> I want to try to gain back a bit of battery life.
[18:08] <`mOOse`> I have a confession to make - I have never figured out how to compile a pgm
[18:08] <ZykoticK9> AegNuddel, this "might" help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[18:08] <shane2peru> vlc, totem, and mplayer all play my file.mov but don't show the video, just sound?  what am I missing?
[18:08]  * `mOOse` stares at the channel
[18:08] <erUSUL> Arabus: man ps
[18:09] <jrib> `mOOse`: you don't really need to anymore
[18:09] <Garnasha> well, you could try it the lo-tech way, just unplugging your laptop xD
[18:09] <reya276> can anyone tell me why rhythmbox wont transfer files over to my IPOD touch. It detects it but it wont let me do anything with it
[18:09] <sudobash_> when I get disconnected from my Atheros AR928X with WPA enc. and I cant connect back to it until I restart ubuntu
[18:09] <fif0> how can I change the Python eviroment variable?
[18:09] <reto`> !sound > AegNuddel
[18:09] <Arabus> erUSUL: sadly not :-/ it only states that it outputs the status=STAT but not what it means :-/
[18:09] <jrib> fif0: why?
[18:09] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, installed ubuntu-restricted-extras?  you might also want to checkout the w32codes (or w64codecs) from Medibuntu
[18:09] <erUSUL> Arabus: i have the man page in front of me
[18:09] <tylor> Garnasha, Yeah, I could but I would really like to just set it and walk away so I can let it go while I sleep or such like that.
[18:09] <guntbert> Arabus: see http://beginlinux.com/blog/2009/05/understanding-cpu-process-states/
[18:09] <reto`> AegNuddel: maybe this can help... otherwise try to gain some info and come back here
[18:10] <Arabus> ah ok
[18:10] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, have them installed, they changed the name to non-free-codecs? something like that anyway
[18:10] <erUSUL> Arabus: under PROCESS STATE CODES
[18:10] <Arabus> i was jsut blind
[18:10] <Garnasha> ah, right
[18:10] <sipior> fif0: export PYTHONPATH="/usr/bin/", for example.
[18:10] <Arabus> thanks, ^^
[18:10] <dr-nicto> can anyone help me when I do this in the terminal glxinfo | grep render i gues this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[18:10] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, ahhh yes that's true
[18:10] <`mOOse`> jrib - lol...but but....there's been 3-4 times that I've wanted something and it needed to be
[18:10] <Garnasha> anyway, I got a question too
[18:10] <`mOOse`> recently!
[18:10] <fif0> I'm not root and I need additional packages..so I compile my python an install ist in my homedirectory..to install the additions i have to change the enviroment variable
[18:10] <sipior> fif0: not that that example value is a good choice :-)
[18:10] <jrib> !compile > `mOOse`
[18:10] <jrib> `mOOse`: like what?
[18:10] <sudobash_> like I will be connected for a long time but then if I get d/c I can't reconnect until I restart
[18:11] <Garnasha> two in fact, one's about a nuisance I've worked around so far and the other is giving me network trouble
[18:11] <sudobash_> the router is in the same room with me
[18:11] <`mOOse`> I knew you were gonna ask me that! Let me think a sec
[18:11] <sudobash_> Garnasha let me guess samba problems?
[18:11] <Garnasha> samba? never heard of that
[18:11] <`mOOse`> there was one 2 nights ago...dang...I'll remember it just gimme a minute! LOL
[18:11] <sudobash_> what kind of network issues?
[18:11] <reto`> fif0: so what's the problem?
[18:12] <xguru_> sudobash_: i had the same issue while maxing bandwith for torrents, but after i went to lucid the problem stopped
[18:12] <Liquid-Silence> hmmm
[18:12] <dr-nicto> I got a question about my xorg config
[18:12] <dr-nicto> can anyone help me when I do this in the terminal glxinfo | grep render i gues this error Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[18:12] <Garnasha> sorry, I'm sort of a layman who just installed ubuntu out of admiration for GNU
[18:12] <Liquid-Silence> vpn klines my internet connection
[18:12] <Garnasha> problem's this:
[18:12] <Garnasha> I can only run wireless
[18:13] <Garnasha> why? because the network at my place is set to fixed IP addresses
[18:13] <sudobash_> Lucid?
[18:13] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, so having those, mov should play? with video?
[18:13] <Garnasha> and whenever I select manual in the method menu the apply button gets grayed out
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> !lucid > sudobash_
[18:13] <erUSUL> dr-nicto: that means the driver you are using those not support 3d
[18:13] <reto`> dr-nicto: try renaming xorg.conf and let X autodetect your stuff... the message you get means that glx is not enabled for your card
[18:13] <xguru_> sudobash_: next release of ubuntu
[18:14] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, it is from my digital camera, automatically gives me those files.
[18:14] <sudobash_> so its not stable yet?
[18:14] <tomatoes7> i have a folder that is owned by "root" how can i change ownership to another user?
[18:14] <erUSUL> dr-nicto: or an error ocurred that prevented 3d (opengl) to be enabled
[18:14] <llutz> tomatoes7: sudo chown
[18:14] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, i'd imagine - i seem to be able to play MOV (although i don't see them often)
[18:14] <xguru_> sudobash_: nope, but its a good testing platform
[18:14] <dr-nicto> oh k
[18:14] <erUSUL> dr-nicto: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:14] <Garnasha> the relevant howto tells me to find and delete a file that doesn't even seem to be in the indicated file
[18:14] <erUSUL> tomatoes7: what folder?
[18:14] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, right, I have been using Linux for years, and never ran into mov files, got a new camera, and never even thought about the video format it produced.
[18:14] <aliendude3500> So I was thinking... since GIMP is being dropped from Lucid, we need a new simple graphics editing program. Pinta seems to meet all the requirements quite nicely: http://pinta-project.com/
[18:15] <dr-nicto> thanks ill check that
[18:15] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, in a terminal if you run "mplayer $FILE_FOO.MOV" does the ouput in the terminal (re-video) suggest what could be wrong?  could you pastebin that output?
[18:15] <Garnasha> (the howto describing the way to set it by terminal commands)
[18:15] <sudobash_> gimp is being dropped what>?
[18:15] <iceroot> aliendude3500: sudo apt-get install gimp   finish
[18:15] <erUSUL> sudobash_: from default install still aviable in main
[18:15] <ZykoticK9> aliendude3500, sudobash_ Gimp just isn't in the default install...  you can still install it
[18:15] <pc1> sby_a.Yani_coBi20
[18:16] <sudobash_> why that seems like a waste of time?
[18:16] <aliendude3500> iceroot, ZykoticK9, I mean as somethign included in the default install for new users to play with.
[18:16] <ZykoticK9> aliendude3500, sudobash_ actually currently it's still there (in Alpha 2)
[18:16] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, good thought, I didn't think of checking mplayer's output:  http://www.ubuntu.pastebin.com/m23a6b59a
[18:16] <pc1> s
[18:16] <iceroot> ZykoticK9: because its no feature freeze, just a sync from sid
[18:17] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, /media/AVCHD/JWedding/BDMV
[18:17] <Garnasha> ugh, I babble too much and lose the attention of anyone able to help me don't I?
[18:17] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, /media/AVCHD/JWedding/BDMV
[18:17] <`mOOse`> jeez - what a dummy I am - that page you sent me explains pretty-much everything jrib - thanks - the last time I compiled a pgm was in 1989 on a DG/UX mini mainframe LOL
[18:17] <dr-nicto> retro how do i rename the xorg.conf
[18:17] <erUSUL> tomatoes7: is a ntfs parition ? or what?
[18:17] <`mOOse`> it's pretty apparent times have changed greatly!
[18:17] <zamba> i need a tool to draw network maps.. dia, frankly, sucks..
[18:17] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, ext3
[18:18] <spekko> hi all, i installed kubuntu. is there anyway to uninstall it?
[18:18] <iceroot> dr-nicto: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old
[18:18] <sudobash_> zamba check out insecure.org
[18:18] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, i copied folders from NTFS though to the ext3 partition
[18:18] <zamba> the icons looks like they're from the dawn of the internet
[18:18] <dr-nicto> kk thanks
[18:18] <erUSUL> tomatoes7: sudo chown -R $USER:USER /media/AVCHD/JWedding/BDMV
[18:18] <iceroot> spekko: uninstall the whole distri or just kde?
[18:18] <zamba> sudobash_: eh? that's for nmap?
[18:18] <AegNuddel> Is there a way to uninstall pulseaudio?
[18:18] <SHierling> ups
[18:18] <sudobash_> i think they have links to network mapping apps, duh....
[18:18] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, where you in Xorg when you ran that mplayer command?
[18:18] <spekko> iceroot, the whole thing
[18:19] <fif0> I try to install python setup tools
[18:19] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9,  yes
[18:19] <iceroot> spekko: just install antoher distri or windows on the hdd, there is no uninstall
[18:19] <sudobash_> insecure.org still has good info not just for nmap
[18:19] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, if you try "mplayer -vo x11 P1000327.MOV" does anything change?
[18:19] <SHierling> sry, i didn't know chat put me here at once ^^  bye
[18:20] <spekko> iceroot, no, i mean i have ubuntu, then i downloaded kubuntu "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or whatever. now i wana uninstall kubuntu desktop and leave only ubuntu.
[18:20] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, that fixed it!,  that is odd, is my mplayer not right
[18:20] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, or is my x broken? :)
[18:20] <iceroot> spekko: and i asked, just kde or the whole distri
[18:20] <zamba> sudobash_: well, i'm drawing the logical map
[18:20] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, ummm, probably didn't "fix it", try making the video fullscreen
[18:20] <iceroot> !puregnome | spekko
[18:20] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, i'm still locked out of the folder
[18:20] <AegNuddel> it changed things that were right
[18:21] <spekko> iceroot, oh lol. i didnt understand :P. im a noob at linux still
[18:21] <zamba> sudobash_: it's basically a tool like dia, only with some more fresh icons
[18:21] <reto`> spekko: that's why it's better to use aptitude... apt-get is not good at doing stuff like that
[18:21] <sudobash_> like a visual traceroute?
[18:21] <spekko> iceroot, thanx
[18:21] <erUSUL> tomatoes7: sudo chown -R $USER:USER /media/AVCHD/JWedding/
[18:21] <iceroot> spekko: np
[18:21] <sudobash_> never seen dia
[18:21] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, nevermind i got it
[18:21] <Younder> what utillity do you use for backup. I have approx 100 Gb. 25 Gb of ext3. for the liux drive I am thiking of dump or tar..
[18:21] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, try "mplayer -vo gl $FILENAME" and see if that works
[18:21] <tomatoes7> $USER:<username>
[18:21] <wash> Is there any way to send myself sms text messages from my server? I am on verizon, running Ubuntu 9.10 server editiin
[18:21] <Garnasha> Another try, all at once this time: Could anyone help me with this problem where when I use "Network Connections" to edit auto Eth0, setting the IPv4 method to manual causes the apply button to get grayed out?
[18:21] <erUSUL> !backup | Younder
[18:22] <rocky|raccoon> hello :> anyone familiar with iptables know how i could go about blocking all traffic from an entire domain?
[18:22] <tomatoes7> erUSUL, thanks :)
[18:22] <erUSUL> yw
[18:22] <wash> I just want to be able to have the server text me if certain scripts go off
[18:22] <CShadowRun> rocky|raccoon: afaik you can't, you can only use iptables with ip addresses
[18:22] <guntbert> Garnasha: you have to fill in all fields :)
[18:22] <spekko> iceroot, hmm do i need to type in "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"?
[18:22] <sudobash_> wash like sms you?
[18:22] <iceroot> spekko: not if you already have gnome
[18:23] <pc1> alo
[18:23] <richthegeek> Pidgin just went frog-king mental and used 7.8 GiB of RAM, how do I make a debug report and to whom do I send it?
[18:23] <wash> yah sudobash
[18:23] <Garnasha> so what should I fill in at search domain?
[18:23] <spekko> iceroot, ok thanx :)
[18:23] <iceroot> spekko: but its no problem to type it
[18:23] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, yep that worked better, I couldn't get them to fullscreen, however maximize worked, the second command made the picture bigger, the first didn't, just the window size, with black edges
[18:23] <sudobash_> you would have to make a script that could use a html based sms tool that doesn't use captcha or something, maybe even google labs sms or something
[18:23] <iceroot> !bug | richthegeek
[18:23] <Garnasha> guntbert: is there a default for Search domains?
[18:23] <wash> *nods*
[18:23] <wash> thanks.
[18:24] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, so the -vo gl is working?  if so you could edit ~/.mplayer/config and change the vo= line to vo=gl (FYI you might also want to try gl2 from command line and see if it works any better)
[18:24] <AegNuddel> pulse would nt be a problem if it would give me my sound card instead of just "dummy output"
[18:24] <richthegeek> iceroot: merely telling them that it went mental and used all my RAM isn't gonna help, do you or anyone else know where the runtime logs are for Pidgin?
[18:24] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, ok, thanks!  much appreciated
[18:25] <guntbert> Garnasha: sorry, not those - only the three address/netmask/gateway
[18:25] <dr-nicto> erUSUl how do I check /var/log/Xorg.0.log also can I send you the log cause I would'nt know what i was looking at
[18:25] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, does this have to do with my nvidia card or compiz?  or just mplayer?
[18:26] <Garnasha> guntbert: Did that, doesn't work
[18:26] <AegNuddel> ok got my soud back
[18:26] <AegNuddel> sound
[18:26] <Garnasha> wait
[18:26] <wash> Oh, actually, sudobash, found an ubuntu command line tool for it :0
[18:26] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, all of the above (oh if your using Nvidia and a recent card you might want to look into vdpau support - hardware decoding of video, very cool!)
[18:26] <Garnasha> now it does
[18:26] <Garnasha> after switching windows...
[18:26] <Garnasha> !bug
[18:26] <sudobash_> dr-nicto you will want to pastebin the log
[18:26] <trism> richthegeek: most things for pidgin are in ~/.purple, but it is doubtful it would log anything useful by default, if you start pidgin with -d, it will print debugging messages, which may be useful if you can reproduce the behavior
[18:26] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, ok, thanks for the tip, will check that out
[18:27] <iceroot> richthegeek: pidgin --help  maybe there is a debug-modus
[18:27] <dr-nicto> pastebin?
[18:27] <Welshy-Rob> anyone know anything about dkpg?
[18:27] <iceroot> !anyone | Welshy-Rob
[18:27] <richthegeek> trism, iceroot: i'll take a look at both, thanks
[18:27] <iceroot> !paste | dr-nicto
[18:27] <Garnasha> thank you guntbert
[18:28] <rocky|raccoon> CShadowRun, I see, thanks...I'll have to figure out some other way of doing it then
[18:28] <richthegeek> trism: hasn't been doing system logs since August 09 for some reason...
[18:28] <guntbert> Garnasha: nice it worked :)
[18:28] <dr-nicto> K thanks
[18:28] <SHierling> quit
[18:28] <richthegeek> trism: can't reproduce, seems to be that I sent a message to someone who had just logged out and probably went into a crazy loop trying to get a "recieved" ping
[18:29] <sudobash_> so is there anything like vdpau for ATI?
[18:29] <ZykoticK9> sudobash_, i don't think so - not "yet" anyways
[18:29] <Welshy-Rob> what dose this mean?  Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:30] <ZykoticK9> sudobash_, give it 5-10 years for ATI to implement on linux (sorry i have no respect for ATI...)
[18:30] <dr-nicto> k i got the paste bin iceroot http://paste.ubuntu.com/371928/
[18:30] <coolcat> hi, I am trying to install intel c++ compiler but the installation script complains about 32-bit compatibility libraries, and ask for the libraries libstdc++, libstdc++5, glibc, libgcc, even though the are already installed. I am on an 64-bit machine, what should I do?
[18:30] <wiley> Does anyone know when Virtualbox will support Direct3d?
[18:31] <usser> coolcat, get a 64 bit compiler
[18:31] <ZykoticK9> wiley, it already does - to a minor extent
[18:31] <trism> richthegeek: that should at least give the devs a place to look, if you include what protocol you were using
[18:31] <evantandersen_> why not use g++?
[18:31] <Garnasha> alright, question for python enthusiasts this time: anyone else had this problem, I think it started with the upgrade to 9.10, where the argument tooltip disappearing locks your keyboard until you move your mouse out of and into the python shell window?
[18:31] <richthegeek> trism: surething, I'll have to remember my basecamp login now ><
[18:31] <rww> coolcat: you probably need one or more ia32* packages. I'd start with ia32-libs and go from there
[18:31] <sudobash_> lol well i got this new gateway NV5378u with ATI 4200HD and it was a good price so I got it its all black and midnite blue looks pretty sweet I put Ubuntu on it the first hour of having it
[18:32] <ZykoticK9> coolcat, are you sure you have libstdc++5 ?  dpkg -l | grep libstdc - by default i don't think it's in Karmic
[18:32] <Mrokii> hello. Does anybody know which file defines the keymap for TTYs?
[18:33] <dr-nicto> I did the glxinfo | grep render   command and got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/371928/
[18:33] <wiley> ZykoticK9, i tried ChessMaster in Guest Windows XP and I installed additions and Wine3d. It didn't work. Any ideas why?
[18:33] <sudobash> it should be cause its hard to find some ppl use alien rpm's of libstdc++5
[18:33] <Garnasha> wow, loads of logins/logouts
[18:33] <sudobash> wiley try to run Windows XP in VMware or VirtualBox
[18:34] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/keymap.html
[18:34] <wiley> sudobash I am running Virtualbox
[18:34] <CppIsWeird> my ubuntu box is all the sudden not booting up, here are the errors on the screen: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d47bc7e3f
[18:34] <ZykoticK9> wiley, i have gotten some 3d games working in VBox -- but really the performace is still crap, verging on non-playable.  does ChessMaster run under wine perhaps?
[18:34] <Garnasha> alright, question for python enthusiasts this time: anyone else had this problem, I think it started with the upgrade to 9.10, where the argument tooltip disappearing locks your keyboard until you move your mouse out of and into the python shell window?
[18:35] <f4d3d-5h4d3|AFK> ..
[18:35] <wiley> no, it doesn't either
[18:35] <f4d3d-5h4d3|AFK> hm
[18:35] <coolcat> evantandersen_, I want to compare both
[18:35] <sudobash> I've ran multiple games in VMware before never VirtualBox
[18:35] <usser> CppIsWeird, looks like a dead hdd or bad/punctured cable or loose connection
[18:35] <evantandersen_> coolcat: ah... ic. But the reason it is complaining that you don't have those deps ie because you have the 64bit version of those libs installed, and you need the 32 bit versions installed
[18:36] <wiley> ZykoticK9, no, it doesn't either
[18:36] <CppIsWeird> usser: bummer. seems to start booting. think its got enough left in it to copy files off? I've already tried playing with the cables.
[18:36] <xbb> .join #cakephp
[18:36] <evantandersen_> CppIsWeird: your grub could be messed up... have you tried using a live cd?
[18:37] <mido_> where to find ifconfig file??
[18:37] <usser> CppIsWeird, try booting from livecd, but it doesnt look like it'd even mount
[18:37] <sudobash> CppIsWeird boot ubuntu live cd and try to transfer files from it
[18:37] <coolcat> evantandersen_, I downloaded the IA-32/Intel-64 I am going to download only Intel-64, I do not need 32-bit compatibility ...
[18:37] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  thanks, but as a linux-newbie I don't know how to do that: >do a recursive grep for "loadkeys"<
[18:38] <llutz> mido_: /sbin/ifconfig
[18:38] <mido_> thanx llutz
[18:38] <dr-nicto> Hello I checked my /var/log/xorg.o.log and my glxinfo | grep render  I got these errors  http://paste.ubuntu.com/371932/       and  http://paste.ubuntu.com/371928/
[18:38] <llutz> mido_: to find commands, "which ifconfig"
[18:38] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: cd /etc/  then grep loadkeys *
[18:39] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  thanks, will try that.
[18:39] <steve_> hi its not working nothing :( is there anyway of installing the legacy drivers for nvidia trough terminal
[18:39] <mido_> llutz .. I wanna configure this file
[18:39] <steve_> becasue thay used to work
[18:39] <llutz> mido_: you cannot
[18:39] <llutz> mido_: "man ifconfig"
[18:40] <qUaNtiC_> hi, does anyone use pyjama the audio player?
[18:40]  * steve_ cries under the table
[18:40] <dr-nicto> Hello I got a question I checked my /var/log/xorg.o.log and my glxinfo | grep render  I got these errors  http://paste.ubuntu.com/371932/       and  http://paste.ubuntu.com/371928/
[18:40] <sudobash> steve pastebin your xorg once again
[18:40] <ZykoticK9> mido_, network config file in /etc/network/interfaces < BUT if you change that Network Manager will no longer work
[18:41] <llutz> mido_: i guess you want to edit /etc/network/interfaces  for changing networksettings
[18:41] <mido_> llutz, what's your opinion ,, how to make backtrack connect automaticly to the internet witout start /etc/init.d/network ??
[18:41] <nastas> mido_: what exactly you want to do?
[18:41] <steve_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/371935/
[18:41] <llutz> mido_: stupid idea, backtrack isn't made for this kind of usage
[18:42] <ZykoticK9> dr-nicto, in your xorg log it even suggest trying to reinstall the nvidia driver, might be a good idea to try reinstalling the nvidia driver
[18:42] <usser> dr-nicto, ZykoticK9 heh was just going to say that
[18:42] <mido_> llutz,  is there a way do configure this ?
[18:42] <dr-nicto> How do i uninstall the whole thing i did all this from the nvidia driver site instead of hardware
[18:42] <mido_> configration
[18:42] <llutz> mido_: look at the startscripts and add you network-start
[18:42] <sudobash> did you even put in the resolution line?
[18:43] <ZykoticK9> dr-nicto, sorry i can't help if you used Nvidia driver from there page - good luck
[18:43] <ionut> hi. where i can find a script that makes automatically updates for ubuntu 9.10  ?
[18:43] <steve_> i did and it just defaulted the driver
[18:43] <steve_> did not use it
[18:43] <sudobash> one sec
[18:43] <dr-nicto> K lol guess its back to reinstalling 64 :(
[18:43] <steve_> asked me if i wanted to repair or change ect
[18:44] <ZykoticK9> dr-nicto, perhaps someone else knows how to uninstall the nvidia driver???
[18:44] <mido_> llutz, .. could backtrack connect to internet automaticly ? if I did somethin
[18:44] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: that won't work... sorry. what key bind in particular are you trying to change?
[18:44] <dr-nicto> I hope ;D id hate to have to reinstall i was trying to play guildwars but It doesnt load after all the dx9 install and c++
[18:44] <steve_> zykotick9 do it in the synaptics package manager
[18:44] <lovelinux> Hi,everyone. I'm using debian5.0 stable. I found out by chance that there're two shadow files under my /etc dir--one is named shadow and another shadow- . I wonder what is shadow-? Is that a copy of shadow?
[18:44] <ZykoticK9> steve_, he used driver from site
[18:45] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  I need to change the whole keymap for TTYs as the one that is loaded by default is totally wrong.
[18:45] <dennda> Hi. With ubuntu 9.10, where is menu.lst of grub located? It used to be in /boot/grub/menu.lst right, but there is no such file on this freshly installed 9.10 system
[18:45] <steve_> you mean installed via sh ?
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > dennda
[18:45] <ZykoticK9> dennda, in 9.10 there is no menu.lst
[18:45] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: okay look here
[18:45] <evantandersen_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3907470&postcount=4
[18:46] <adalgiso> i'd like to set up PXE boot for a livecd, so i can boot over the network into a live environment.  I've read some things online but they all mention running a DHCP server on the same box as the one that will serve the PXE.  In my org, we have DHCP running on another machine, and there is also an existing PXE system that another department uses.  Would I still be able to set it up?  Or if anyone has a few minutes to chat can PM me?
[18:46] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: change the file to whatever your keyboard model/region / mode  you want
[18:47] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  sorry, that's not going to work. These settings are already right (the keymap in Ubuntu). It's only the keymap in TTYs that's totally screwed.
[18:47] <llutz> mido_: /j #remote-exploit   and ask there
[18:47] <Pyker> so many quits :S
[18:47] <sudobash> steve: is this how you did it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/371938/
[18:48] <sudobash> try that and see if it works if it doesnt come back
[18:48] <steve_> that looks close but not exact
[18:48] <zilkomaa> What is super button in compiz fusion?
[18:48] <fif0> if I type "python" on the bach i want to start python from my installed source
[18:48] <mido_> llutz, thanx a lot dude
[18:48] <sudobash> try that
[18:48] <steve_> should i replace that ?
[18:48] <fif0> but it doesn't work
[18:48] <steve_> i will be back to tell you how it works
[18:49] <steve_> brb
[18:49] <Diverdude> anybody knows of a nice changing-background theme with coralreef images?
[18:49] <sudobash> yeah no need to back cause I have it now lol
[18:49] <sudobash> backup*
[18:49] <trism> fif0: you need to make sure that the path to your local python comes before /usr/bin in your PATH variable
[18:49] <fif0> how can i do this without root
[18:49] <rww> lovelinux: Debian questions belong in #debian. I believe the answer is that yes, it's a backup copy.
[18:49] <sudobash> come back and let us know if it worked
[18:50] <ionut> does anyone knows how can i create a file that makes automatically updates ?
[18:50] <trism> fif0: add export PATH=/path/to/your/python:$PATH to ~/.bashrc
[18:50] <jrib> ionut: what?
[18:50] <Garnasha> *drops back into the convo* you're a Python user, trism?
[18:50] <adalgiso> ionut: if you're looking to update your packages (i think you are) you could write a script and make it a cron job
[18:50] <trism> Garnasha: yes, what's up?
[18:50] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: the keymap in the tty's should load the console-setup file
[18:51] <lovelinux> rww: hey,thax very much rww^_^, sorry for the wrong room...
[18:51] <Garnasha> I have a problem where python 3 under ubuntu 9.10 freezes up my keyboard
[18:51] <fif0> thanks a lot
[18:51] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: did you try reloading the keymap in the tty with sudo /etc/init.d/console-setup reload
[18:51] <sudobash> steve you have to make sure that you are editing and saving the file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:51] <ionut> adalgiso: exacly :). that's what i want to do. but i am a beginner,can u help me, because i don't know how to create that file !
[18:51] <trism> Garnasha: ahh, I haven't migrated to python 3 yet, too lazy to port all my scripts
[18:51] <fif0> I had done a wrong export
[18:51] <Garnasha> easy to fix by clicking anywhere outside the window, but it happens everytime an argument list tooltip closes
[18:52] <Garnasha> and, as you know, those tend to open and close quite a lot
[18:52] <Trek> Garnasha: I'm not an active user of python but perhaps its a bug in 9.10?
[18:52] <iceroot> ionut: sudo crontab -e   with * */1 * * * apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade #upgrading every hour
[18:52] <trism> Garnasha: is this in idle?
[18:52] <Garnasha> Trek: I'm almost certain it's a bug
[18:52] <Garnasha> yes
[18:52] <ZykoticK9> sudobash, if steve is running 9.10 you could just rename xorg.conf and once the Ubuntu nvidia is installed recreate it with "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[18:53] <Garnasha> IDLE for Python 3
[18:53] <iceroot> ionut: but automatic updates are bad, do it by hand and read before what will be updated
[18:53] <Trek> Garnasha, did you submit a bug report?
[18:53] <Garnasha> didn't do that under 9.4 either
[18:53] <ionut> iceroot: this command , i must run it from the terminal , or there is a way to write it down into a file ?
[18:53] <sudobash> yeah but it will keep outputting the same non working xorg config...
[18:53] <Garnasha> for a bug report you need to list a package right?
[18:53] <ionut> iceroot: yes, but  i want to use it on a server
[18:53] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  I don't think that this will help. The main problem is that the TTY forgets the "correct" keyboard at every bootup, or maybe loads an unfitting keymap from somewhere, and so far I haven't been able to change that.
[18:53] <Garnasha> anyway, wanted to ask here in case I was being stupid about something
[18:53] <jpds> ionut, iceroot: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates - is the correct way to do what you want.
[18:53] <sudobash> he is having resolution problems I have fixed this on 9.10 nvidia before just not old 96 drivers
[18:53] <Trek> Garnasha: wouldn't the package be "python" or something?
[18:54] <sudobash> more like 186 or something
[18:54] <jrib> ionut: check out cron-apt
[18:54] <mido__> I need a desktop recorder (good one)
[18:54] <iceroot> ionut: you can write a file on /etc/cron.d/  with the content   * */1 * * * root apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:54] <jpds> jrib: Or the link I just sent. ;)
[18:54] <AegNuddel> what does && do in commands?
[18:54] <Garnasha> installing IDLE gets you about 4 packages
[18:54] <ionut> iceroot: thx so much
[18:54] <jpds> AegNuddel: Run the first command, then the second one if successful.
[18:54] <ionut> jrib: also tnx to u
[18:54] <Myrtti> AegNuddel: performs the next command only if the previous has exited successfully
[18:54] <ionut> jpds: is perfect
[18:54] <jrib> jpds: yes :)
[18:54] <iceroot> AegNuddel: command1 && command2    command2 will only run if command1 was succesfully
[18:54] <AegNuddel> ah
[18:55] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?p=501932
[18:55] <iceroot> AegNuddel: command1 || command2    command2 will only run if command1 failed
[18:55] <Garnasha> and I wouldn't know which contains the bug
[18:55] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: your exact problem (and solution) I believe!
[18:55] <Garnasha> on top of that, maybe it isn't even IDLE that's bugging up but some obscure package it uses
[18:55] <steve_> are you there slashdot ?
[18:56] <sudobash> me?
[18:56] <steve_> its not causeing a error now but i still only have the same resolution to pick from
[18:56] <Garnasha> so basically, I want to file a bug report but don't know what to put in it
[18:56] <steve_> yes sorry sudobash
[18:56] <marcuy> is there any application to extract a video from youtube in a range of time?
[18:56] <Pyker> Hi. I have a slight problem. I'm running Karmic Koala (9.10) and when I try to connect to the internet, it connects, but I can't access the internet (I can't access any web page, can't ping or any other internet-based operations). My modem is a Huawei E220. Thanks :)
[18:56] <trism> Garnasha: it would be best to file it against idle, you may want to try another ide while you're at it though
[18:56] <jpds> ionut: Or, you can use the tool in; System → Admin → Software Sources, and then the "Updates" tab.
[18:57] <jpds> ionut: Hitting a mirror server ever hour is a Bad Idea.
[18:57] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  I think I read that before and did the reconfiguration of console-data before (far more than once). That lets me set a good keymap, but after a reboot, that's gone again.
[18:57] <sudobash> hmmm I need to connect to my buddys box via ssh let me see if he has the same ip and I can grab his xorg config for you
[18:57] <Garnasha> tride: ok, thanks, will try that
[18:57] <Garnasha> !bug
[18:57] <ionut> iceroot: if i create a file in /etc/cron.d how can i execute it every time i loggin into my computer ?  (start my computer )
[18:57] <steve_> you are the man
[18:57] <BluesKaj> Pyker, are you using an ethernet or wifi card ?
[18:57] <Pyker> usb
[18:57] <Pyker> erm
[18:58] <asdff> Can someone help me troubleshoot my sound? I am running Karmic with XFCE window manager. I tried uninstalling pulseuadio then reinstalling but I think it screwed things up worse lol (now gnome-volume-control applet has dissapeared).
[18:58] <Pyker> can't remember the right word
[18:58] <tini> hi have a problem: my ubuntu is not starting anymore: i have a dualboot, but ext2fs destroyed my grub? and now? some inspirations?
[18:58] <asdff> Pyker: usb wireless dongle thing?
[18:58] <Pyker> yeh
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Pyker, a wired connection to your modem ?
[18:58] <Pyker> yep
[18:58]  * steve_ is lovein the technical terms used
[18:58] <Pyker> a HSDPA USB modem
[18:58] <asdff> lolol
[18:59] <Pyker> lol steve_
[18:59] <Trek> !lol
[18:59] <asdff> OMGLOL
[18:59] <Pyker> haha
[18:59] <Pyker> :P
[18:59] <Myrtti> just stop it
[18:59] <Pyker> sorry
[18:59] <asdff> Can someone help me troubleshoot my sound? I am running Karmic with XFCE window manager. I tried uninstalling pulseuadio then reinstalling but I think it screwed things up worse lol (now gnome-volume-control applet has dissapeared).
[18:59] <ionut> iceroot: i have created a file automaticupdates that contains this command "* */1 * * * root apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" . now what should i do to "access" that file any time i start my pc ?
[18:59] <tini> hi have a problem: my ubuntu is not starting anymore: i have a dualboot, but ext2fs destroyed my grub? and now? some inspirations? windows 7 with ext2fs destroyed my grub?
[19:00] <blakkheim> !repeat | tini
[19:00] <Solar_Flare> hi
[19:00] <iceroot> ionut: cron will access that file and update the system automaticly
[19:00] <jok3r> hey, i was wondering if anyone here uses a specific key logger, one that they prefer
[19:00] <iceroot> ionut: every hour
[19:00] <Solar_Flare> am i wrong or is there with the new kernel a drop in wifi quality?
[19:00] <iceroot> !cron | ionut
[19:00] <steve_> do you guys get paid for helping evryone out here ?
[19:00] <jpds> steve_: No.
[19:00] <Solar_Flare> steve_: no
[19:00] <tomek_> Hello :)
[19:01] <iceroot> steve_: no
[19:01] <blakkheim> steve_: that would be nice, but no
[19:01] <steve_> there should be a donation program started
[19:01] <Guest92138> Got a question about Kopete and webcam support.  I've installed the libjasper-runtime, but still can't send and recieve streams.  In the settings though, I can see my webcam image.
[19:01] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  yep, reconfiguring console-data is what I have tried numerous times, which only helps until the next reboot.
[19:01] <asdff> steve_ often enough though when people come to get help, they also contribute with help in return
[19:01] <Solar_Flare> guys?
[19:01] <ionut> iceroot: thx. but i can also paste that command into my .bashrc (of root profile). and any time i loggin into the shell it will automatically run that command.isn't that ?
[19:01] <Solar_Flare> Was there a drop in wifi quality in the new kernel?
[19:01] <usser> ionut, do not use that command it may and will break. The proper way to accomplish what you want is by using apt-cron
[19:02] <Solar_Flare> the 2.4.31-19 seems to lower my wifi connection quality
[19:02] <iceroot> ionut: no not with ** * * * root
[19:02] <usser> ionut, aptcron sorry
[19:02] <iceroot> ionut: just apt-get update...  but dont do that
[19:02] <jpds> ionut: Use the tool in System → Admin → Software Sources, and "Updates" as I suggested.
[19:02] <blakkheim> cron-apt does a good job in that area
[19:02] <Pyker> anyone can help me? plz :P
[19:02] <asdff> I can no longer hear sound in Ubuntu Karmic, and my gnome-volume-control applet is no longer appearing. Any suggestions?
[19:03] <iceroot> !ask | Pyker
[19:03] <Pyker> i already did
[19:03] <Pyker> xD
[19:03] <usser> ionut, bah cron-apt sorry
[19:03] <ionut> jpds: yes, i've done that.thx
[19:03] <Trek> Pyker, ask again *once* so we can see it.
[19:03] <Skuld_kid> @asdff:  is there a blank space in your 'taskbar' where the speaker icon should be?
[19:03] <Pyker> ok
[19:03] <Myrtti> Pyker: you can't ping 8.8.8.8 either?
[19:03] <Pyker> "Hi. I have a slight problem. I'm running Karmic Koala (9.10) and when I try to connect to the internet, it connects, but I can't access the internet (I can't access any web page, can't ping or any other internet-based operations). My modem is a Huawei E220. Thanks :)"
[19:03] <ionut> jpds: now if i want to cron that file i have to do cron -filename ?
[19:03] <asdff> Skuld_kid: nah it is completely gone :(
[19:03] <Pyker> 8.8.8.8
[19:03] <Pyker> i don't think so
[19:04] <Myrtti> Pyker: try?
[19:04] <Pyker> i have to reboot
[19:04] <Pyker> lol
[19:04] <ionut> jpds: crontab -filename,sorry
[19:04] <Pyker> brb
[19:04] <mattgyver> does ubuntu allow the use of IDE drives to be configured into a RAID 1, or is only SATA supported?
[19:04] <asdff> Skuld_kid: moreover I cannot re-add the volume controll applet
[19:04] <Skuld_kid> Repost:  Kopete and webcam support.  I've installed the libjasper-runtime, but still can't send and recieve streams.  In the settings though, I can see my webcam image.
[19:04] <mkquist> is there a recent problem with sd cards not automounting?
[19:04] <jpds> ionut: Why do you want to put it into cron?
[19:04] <nvme> how much HDD space would i need to run minimal karmic + tomcat + oracle express + SVN ?
[19:05] <jpds> ionut: The Updates tool uses cron already.
[19:05] <ionut> jpds: yes,but if i am into a server macchine ?
[19:05] <iceroot> mattgyver: every drive (usb, ide, sata, scsi and so on) can be a software-raid
[19:05] <mattgyver> iceroot, thanks
[19:05] <dennda> Nice. Just installed kubuntu-desktop from a freshly installed & updated 9.10 ubuntu and now when I log in it only shows a gnome terminal without window decoration and does nothing else...
[19:05] <Trek> !repeat Skuld_Kid
[19:05] <Trek> !repeat | Skuld_Kid
[19:05] <usser> ionut, even worse. server updates should not be handled in this careless way! ever!
[19:05] <jpds> ionut: Then follow the guide at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[19:05] <mattgyver> mkquist, i have had various problems with SD automounting dating back to about 81.0
[19:05] <ionut> usser: ok,thx,
[19:06] <mattgyver> 8.10*
[19:06] <asdff> I can no longer hear sound in Ubuntu Karmic, and my gnome-volume-control applet is no longer appearing. Any suggestions?
[19:06] <ionut> jpds: thx so much
[19:06] <jpds> ionut: But then again, usser is right.
[19:06] <ionut> i gotta go
[19:06] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: is there a file at /etc/console/ that is a keymap called boottime
[19:06] <ionut> bye
[19:06] <Skuld_kid> Thanks, I only repeted my question, becuase I changed my nick from that obscure Guest##### nick I didn't relise I had
[19:06] <iceroot> ionut: maybe use apticron which is sending you a mail about pending updates annd then YOU decide if you want that update
[19:06] <usser> ionut, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade maybe not dist-upgrade
[19:06] <dennda> ok now it's working
[19:06] <mkquist> mattgyver: strange thing is, never been a problem before, now two laptops dont mount my sd cards
[19:07] <blakkheim> dist-upgrade or full-upgrade (they do the same thing)
[19:07] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  well, I guess it may load the "boottime.kmap.gz". Maybe if I would edit that, it would help, but I am not sure.
[19:07] <blakkheim> just upgrade can hold things back
[19:07] <karel_> Yo
[19:07] <hacker-eyes_> #backtrack-linux
[19:07] <steve_>  sudobash are you still there ?
[19:07] <karel_> Could anyone please tell me how can I see what motherboard does my PC have (Ubuntu 9.10)?
[19:07] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  to be exact, this file is in the "console-setup"-folder.
[19:07] <mattgyver> mkquist, yeah its only ever been a problem on my laptop
[19:07] <blakkheim> karel_: lshw
[19:07] <ron_> hi
[19:07] <Homely_Girl> Gentlemen....is there a tool available in Ubuntu for me to check a hdd for errors?
[19:07] <Myrtti> Homely_Girl: smartmontools
[19:08] <Homely_Girl> Thank you Myrtti
[19:08] <sudobash> yeah I can't get on my buddy's his IP changed Im looking for another
[19:08] <Myrtti> a hint of irony there, but no matter
[19:08] <Magnesium> karel_: sudo apt-get install lshw
[19:08] <mattgyver> mkquist, more often then not i just have to mount them manually
[19:08] <hacker-eyes_> #remote-exploit
[19:08] <Magnesium> karel_: Then sudo lshw
[19:08] <Myrtti> hacker-eyes_: /join <channel name here>
[19:09] <karel_> Thank you, seems like I already have lshw
[19:09] <Solar_Flare> ubottu: !wireless
[19:09] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  the only problem is that the file in that gz-file has keycode-definitions with all sorts of unicode-codes in it and "keydump" for example uses a very different format. Pretty confusing.
[19:09] <mkquist> mattgyver: any hints on how to mount them manually?
[19:09] <k4rt33k_> Hey
[19:09] <Magnesium> karel_: OK...but you might need to run lshw as root...sometimes running it as myself doesn't work right
[19:09] <dennda> Which package contains katapult? (The KDE gnome-do equivalent)
[19:09] <Trek> !hi | k4rt33k_
[19:10] <mattgyver> mkquist, run sudo fdisk -l and see if they are recognized, and if they are just mount with, sudo mount /dev/(location) /directory
[19:10] <k4rt33k_> I am unable to send messages on a channel on freenode. It says cannot send message.Any idea why?
[19:10] <Myrtti> k4rt33k_: because you're not registered/identified?
[19:11] <k4rt33k_> Myrtti: How do I register myself
[19:11] <steffan> dennda: 'apt-cache search katapult'
[19:11] <Myrtti> !register | k4rt33k_
[19:11] <Pyker> Myrtti, yes i can ping 8.8.8.8
[19:11] <luq_> hello
[19:11] <steffan> !hi | luq_
[19:11] <Myrtti> Pyker: that means that you only have problems with your dns, and the network otherwise works fine.
[19:11] <sudobash> hey steve I can get on his PC at 4 or 5
[19:11] <dennda> steffan: yeah tried that, even looked on packages.ubuntu.com. neither gave any result
[19:11] <Magnesium> dennda: Katapult is only for KDE 3.x, IIRC
[19:12] <Pyker> Myrtti, i'm using the same internet with the default dns servers, and it works just fine (on windows)
[19:12] <steve_> what time is it local to you now
[19:12] <servidor> Ola
[19:12] <steve_> but that is grate i will wait if thats ok
[19:12] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: install-keymap /path/to/file
[19:12] <k4rt33k_> !register
[19:12] <sudobash> 2:12, I'm going on a hike on the cumberland trail real quick and I will be back
[19:12] <Magnesium> In KDE 4 (like in Kubuntu Jaunty and Karmic) it should already be there...try typing Alt+F2
[19:12] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: where the file is the keymap you want to use
[19:12] <faheem_> hello i'm using ubuntu, i own an iphone, is their any other alternative to using itunes for it that DOES WORK
[19:12] <Magnesium> dennda: In KDE 4 (like in Kubuntu Jaunty member:and Karmic) it should already be there...try typing Alt+F2
[19:12] <servidor> alguem pode me ajudar a instalar um gerenciador de LAnHouse
[19:12] <k4rt33k_> !register
[19:12] <steffan> dennda: maybe their website gives more information http://katapult.kde.org/. it is showing in 'apt-cache search katapult' for me
[19:13] <zerozillion> hey, does anybody know how to get a keyboard stroke beep in ubuntu? like on old computers, every key you press makes a distinct thin beep sound
[19:13] <Pyker> servidor, english please
[19:13] <steffan> !sp | servidor
[19:13] <Magnesium> !iphone
[19:13] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  the man-page for this command sounds good, thank you. Will try that.
[19:13] <servidor> Moemt
[19:13] <mbeierl> anyone worked with Cisco's internet cameras and got audio to work under Ubuntu?
[19:13] <Magnesium> !iphone | faheem_
[19:14] <tucemiux> is it possible to encrypt a partition that already has data on it?
[19:14] <steffan> !spanish | servidor
[19:14] <Magnesium> !iphone | faheem_
[19:14] <jef91> Is there a big quality difference between 480by320 and 720by480 aspect on videos?
[19:14] <Pyker> steffan, actually it's portuguese
[19:14] <mindos> is there a mechanical enginering program for ubuntu?
[19:14] <jef91> mindos - to do what exactly?
[19:14] <somethingelse> hello.  i removed my logical partitions and wrote down all the start/end sectors.  then i recreated them and made sure to use the same start/end sectors as before.  now when i try to mount them i get an error saying that they are not valid ext3 partitions, even though i did set them to 83 in fdisk.  any thoughts?
[19:14] <servidor> can someone help me install a manager LanHouse
[19:15] <faheem_> Magnesium, been through that guide and honestly i think its crap but lemme give it another go =P
[19:15] <steffan> Pyker: then typing !portuguese would be more helpful
[19:15] <Pyker> servidor, you can try #ubuntu-br
[19:15] <Pyker> sorry steffan, i don't know the bot's commands xD
[19:15] <Magnesium> faheem_: IDK...I don't have an iPhone, so I don't how well the stuff works.
[19:15] <mindos> jef91 anything. i ll just try for testing.
[19:15] <Pyker> !portuguese | servidor
[19:15] <tucemiux> mindos, use "add/remove" to search for an app, what engineering program youre thinking about? there should be more than plenty
[19:15] <frol> hi
[19:16] <steffan> !hi | frol
[19:16] <servidor> Ok Thanks for the information thank
[19:16] <sponzor> is there anyting similar to this but that it is free? https://landscape.canonical.com/
[19:16] <sponzor> :P
[19:16] <faheem_> no worries Magnesium frustation i getting to mer
[19:16] <faheem_> no worries Magnesium frustation i getting to me*
[19:16] <jef91> mindos tucemiux - remember as of 9.10 add/remove has been replaced by the software center
[19:16] <skiwithpete> hi
[19:16] <Magnesium> faheem_: methinks the iPhone will do that to you :P
[19:16] <faheem_> 'the worst part is ubuntu is a big operating system and their is no itunes for it :/
[19:16] <mindos> i know i t jef91. tnx
[19:16] <faheem_> Magnesium, Apple in truth
[19:16] <jef91> faheem_ Why use iTunes?
[19:16] <evantandersen_> faheem_: try banshee for a similar experience
[19:17] <tucemiux> jef91, im using ubuntu studio and I still have "add/remove"
[19:17] <Magnesium> faheem_: Apple doesn't really like Linux...I have a MacBook, which runs Linux great
[19:17] <frol> can someone tell me why when i update my .profile or my .bash_profile and execute 'bash' the updates are not there
[19:17] <Bunklesmush> does the nickname registry not recognize gmail addresses as valid e-mail addresses?
[19:17] <faheem_> jef91, simple reason = i live in sa
[19:17] <Magnesium> faheem_: But iPhone + Linux is not good
[19:17] <frol> but iff i connect in ssh they are
[19:17] <skiwithpete> I've just put a 2gb usb key in my computer and it won't load... it looks like its sleeping (so the light tells me) - my computer is on battery, how can i mount this drive?
[19:17] <JoeEvans> tucemiux: truecrypt works with linux so i dont see why not
[19:17] <faheem_> Magnesium, iphone + any means of other communication is vad
[19:17] <faheem_> bad*
[19:17] <jef91> eww iPhone, N900 ftw
[19:17] <faheem_> im jailbreaking this idiot as soon as i get home
[19:17] <steffan> !offtopic
[19:17] <Magnesium> faheem_: Very True...maybe you should get an Android or WebOS powered phone?
[19:18] <tucemiux> JoeEvans, LUKS works with linux as well, what I'm trying to figure out is if there is a utility that will allow you to encrypt a partition that already has data on it
[19:18] <Trek> !ot | jef91 / faheem_  Magnesium
[19:18] <faheem_> Magnesium, i have one :) but i was very intested in seeing the iphoine
[19:18] <skiwithpete> does ubuntu have a power reduced mode where the USB don't get proper power?
[19:18] <skiwithpete> or won't mount?
[19:18] <Magnesium> faheem_: I don't blame you for jailbraking it.
[19:18] <sponzor> is there anyting similar to this but that it is free? https://landscape.canonical.com/ ?
[19:18] <evantandersen_> skiwithpete: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[19:19] <faheem_> Magnesium, its like they want us to resort to being illegal...
[19:19] <evantandersen_> !pastebin
[19:19] <faheem_> whole point of using ubuntu = no piracy etc
[19:19] <Trek> jef91, faheem_, and Magnesium: if you wish to talk about non_Ubuntu stuff, go to #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss it, this is the support channel.
[19:19] <sildur> Je vous HAIS tous !!!!!!!!!!!
[19:19] <Pici> Magnesium, faheem_: Please stay on topic.  #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support, not chatting about the iphone.  Consider #ubuntu-offtopic or ##iphone instead.
[19:19] <Magnesium> faheem_: OK we should stop now
[19:19] <faheem_> kinky.. ok sorry guys
[19:19] <Pici> !fr | sildur
[19:19] <Magnesium> Sorry!
[19:19] <sildur> !fr
[19:20] <Boeboe> is this the help channel for ubuntu?
[19:20] <Pyker> yes
[19:20] <skiwithpete> an error occured while pasting
[19:20] <Seveas> Boeboe, it seems to be :)
[19:20] <evantandersen_> !hi |Boeboe
[19:20] <frol> nobody for my .profile problem?
[19:20] <faheem_> no shit....
[19:21] <skiwithpete> anyways, its all sda1-6
[19:21] <Boeboe> lovely :)
[19:21] <skiwithpete> the usb is not shown
[19:21] <Myrtti> !language | faheem_
[19:21] <bullgard> Why does Ubuntu install on every system by default a user account 'postfix'?
[19:21] <Seveas> frol, .profile is only executed when you login. You want to add things to .bashrc instead
[19:21] <ard1an> How can i secure my home folder ?
[19:21] <JoeEvans> frol: please repeat prob
[19:21] <skiwithpete> evantandersen_, did you get that, it can only see my HDD
[19:21] <Seveas> ard1an, chmod og-rwx ~
[19:21] <evantandersen_> skiwithpete: what do you mean? actually, run this:       sudo fdisk -l | !pastebinit
[19:21] <frol> when i update my .profile or my .bash_profile and execute 'bash' the updates are not there
[19:21] <Seveas> frol, .profile is only executed when you login. You want to add things to .bashrc instead
[19:21] <ard1an> thanks Seveas
[19:22] <Boeboe> I've been trying ages to get my radeon x1600 working. Appearantly the propietary drivers no longer support it and the open drivers don't have decent 3D acceleration, how do I get it working?
[19:22] <evantandersen_> skiwithpete: oh... fdisk doesnt even show the usb?
[19:22] <frol> Seveas: and whatfor is .bash_profile?
[19:22] <skiwithpete> no, it doesn't show it
[19:22] <frol> Seveas: also only at login?
[19:22] <brad[]> Hi all, I'm noticing that some of my desktops show a gradient in the translency of the titlebar in a backgrounded window, and others simply show the titlebar/borders with uniform translucency. Is there an obvious reason for that? I'm using nvidia cards everywhere.
[19:22] <Seveas> frol, it's the bash-specific .profile. Shells such as ksh don't read it
[19:22] <Boeboe> also, with all my fiddling, I cant get ubuntu to even use the working video drivers, so now Im stuck in safe graphics mode :/. There is the x.conf file, but I have no idea what to put in there
[19:22] <frol> Seveas: thanks a mlot
[19:23] <evantandersen_> skiwithpete: I have to ask how comfortable are you with linux in general? new user? advanced?
[19:23] <skiwithpete> I've been using Ubuntu since 7.04, but I'm just an end user - I don't know how to code
[19:24] <lantizia> My Microphone isn't working, but I know it's in the right port - the physical mic is working - and alsamixer has it on CAPTURE
[19:24] <evantandersen_> skiwithpete: thanks. If your usb is not showing up in fdisk linux is not aware, which points to a hardware problem Have you tried using a different usb port?
[19:24] <duffydack> lsusb?
[19:25] <skiwithpete> yeah, I've tried all 4
[19:25] <duffydack> dmesg | tail  after pluggin it in
[19:25] <skiwithpete> the usb key lights up like its going to read it, then it switches to sleep mode and does the long slow blink that Cruzers do, meaning it is ejected
[19:26] <ivansmo> Can You tell me the terminal command for installing dev c++ on xubuntu 8.04 ?? like this on link   http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html
[19:26] <lungan> Having some trouble since reinstalling ubuntu, my partitionated disk always ask for password when i click on it? how do i remove that password?
[19:26] <duffydack> skiwithpete, I have 2 cruzers, both work ok.  1gb and 16gb
[19:26] <erUSUL> ivansmo: devc++ is a windows app afaik
[19:26] <jef91> lungan have it auto mount via fstab
[19:26] <skiwithpete> duffydack, [ 1264.480112] usb 2-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[19:26] <skiwithpete> [ 1264.634308] usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[19:26] <skiwithpete> [ 1854.264355] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[19:26] <skiwithpete> [ 1857.002608] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[19:26] <skiwithpete> [ 1857.154236] usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[19:26] <FloodBot4> skiwithpete: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | ivansmo
[19:27] <skiwithpete> sorry, sshould have paste binned
[19:27] <lungan> jef91, how do I do that? Its not an external hdd just a partition
[19:27] <jef91> lungan what is the partition name? /dev/sd??
[19:27] <salin> connect irc.quakenet.org
[19:28] <skiwithpete> duffy did you see the output?
[19:28] <ivansmo> OK Im installing anjuta
[19:28] <duffydack> skiwithpete, odd.. should output an sdX like mine : [ 2973.026335] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[19:28] <lungan> jef91, /media
[19:29] <dyustin> someone familiar with intel 915 chipset and its TV-out ?
[19:29] <skiwithpete> so you know, I have a 2 and a 16, they are in opposite usbs (one on eitherside)
[19:29] <jef91> lungan - thats where it auto mounts to. What is the partition location? To find this run:   sudo fdisk -l
[19:29] <Boeboe> I've been trying ages to get my radeon x1600 working. Appearantly the propietary drivers no longer support it and the open drivers don't have decent 3D acceleration, how do I get it working?
[19:29] <skiwithpete> I ran dmesg | tail again
[19:29] <skiwithpete> and it shows a very similar error...
[19:29] <lungan> jef91, /dev/sda3            9622       37155   221166855   83  Linux
[19:29] <ghufran> hi .. how do i mount a usb hard disk? it got disconnected and its not mouting automatically .. i know the mount command but i dont know the device path .. how can i find that?
[19:30] <duffydack> skiwithpete,  looks like the ports dont like it..  I see you have a usb2 and usb1 port
[19:30] <jef91> ghufran :   sudo fdisk -l
[19:30] <skiwithpete> ok, so what you're saying is, it could be the bios shutting down the usbs when booted under battery...
[19:30] <duffydack> skiwithpete, is this an old pc?
[19:30] <skiwithpete> because there is no Linux explanation for this
[19:30] <jef91> lungan - is it ext3 or 4? Do you know how to add a line to fstab?
[19:30] <skiwithpete> brand spanking (Jan15)
[19:30] <evantandersen_> Mrokii: did it work? did you fix your TTY problem?
[19:30] <lungan> jef91, ext4, nope I don't
[19:31] <duffydack> skiwithpete, running karmic ?
[19:31] <ivansmo> Anjuta is working :)   Now Im gonna see how it is actualy compiling programms
[19:31] <CorvetteZR1> hello.  i removed my logical partitions and wrote down all the start/end cylinders.  then i recreated them and made sure to use the same start/end cylinders as before.  now when i try to mount them i get an error saying that they are not valid ext3 partitions, even though i did set them to 83 in fdisk.  any thoughts?
[19:31] <faheem_> is their any program i can use for my iPhone :(
[19:31] <skiwithpete> 9.10 is karmic right?
[19:31] <tucemiux> Boeboe, i would go to launchpad and check if someone posted an issue with your specific card, if not then create a thread of your own and kindly ask the developers to write drivers for your card and that youll be willing to test the drivers
[19:31] <lungan> jef91, I also don't have the permissions to change anything on the hdd
[19:31] <Mrokii> evantandersen_:  nope, it garbled the keyboard again. I am currently trying to edit the boottime.kmap-file by hand.
[19:31] <ZykoticK9> CorvetteZR1, did you format the partitions after you created them?
[19:31] <jef91> lungan - make a mount point for the drive (sudo mkdir /mnt/<location>) then run:   sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:31] <skiwithpete> duffydack, 9.10 is karmic right?
[19:32] <duffydack> skiwithpete, yeah.  I dont know then.. can always test lucid alpha livecd.. see if its any better...least if it works you`ll know its a kernel or other thing...
[19:32] <plecebo> whats a good general chatting server
[19:32] <ZykoticK9> skiwithpete, yup karmic is 9.10
[19:32] <lungan> jef91, okok, now I'm in the fstab file
[19:32] <jef91> lungan - check messages
[19:32] <Trek> !ot | plecebo
[19:32] <skiwithpete> thanks for your help, I'll have a play in the bios see if anything there
[19:32] <ivansmo> OK folks, what is command for temporary lets me the rights for making changes on files and folders .. I need to make folders ov new projects in anjuta
[19:32] <evantandersen_> sudo
[19:32] <CorvetteZR1> ZykoticK9, no
[19:33] <evantandersen_> ivansmo: sudo command
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> CorvetteZR1, well that would be the problem then... no filesystem on those new partitions
[19:33] <inveratulo> ivansmo: http://xkcd.com/149/
[19:33] <yaaar> howdy
[19:33] <CorvetteZR1> ZykoticK9, if i format them, won't that overwrite wipe out the data that was there?
[19:34] <Pyker> Myrtti: you were right, it was a DNS problem. I changed the DNS server to Google's and it works. Thanks
[19:34] <asdff> My sound is no longer working. I followed this guide to try and fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449. It was working a few hours ago.
[19:34] <ZykoticK9> CorvetteZR1, i'm sure you already lost everything when you repartitioned
[19:34] <Myrtti> Pyker: np
[19:34] <ivansmo> hehe
[19:34] <CorvetteZR1> ZykoticK9, no, you can remove and recreate partitions as long as the cylinder size stays exactly the same, i've done it before
[19:35] <ZykoticK9> CorvetteZR1, OK?  best of luck.  i can't help...
[19:35] <tucemiux> asdff, that guide is old, are you using karmic?
[19:35] <asdff> tucemiux: Indeed
[19:35] <asdff> tucemiux: to both*
[19:36] <ivansmo> you dont understand my question, ones I saw that command that lets user to make those changes for a five minutes or so...
[19:37] <asdff> It was the only guide I could really find, and a few people suggested checking the forums if no one helped with my problem.
[19:37] <tucemiux> asdff,  sound was working = you did something = now sound does not work, what exactly did you do?  All in one line
[19:39] <asdff> tucemiux: umm. well I did do stuff. however it stopped working before I started muddling around.
[19:40] <Timm> hello
[19:41] <tucemiux> asdff,  can you post the --first line that has card 0: -- ***only the first line with "card 0" --from this command --> aplay -l
[19:41] <asdff> tucemiux: card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC880 Analog [ALC880 Analog]
[19:41] <Timmarshall> hello
[19:42] <tucemiux> asdff, do you have a laptop? desktop?  sound is not working from headphone? speaker?
[19:42] <Timmarshall> can anyone see this
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> Timmarshall, yes
[19:42] <tucemiux> !hello| Timmarshall
[19:42] <desero> Timmarshall: yes
[19:42] <gerry__> Timmarshall, no
[19:42] <Timmarshall> finally im back on irc
[19:43] <tucemiux> !ot | Timmarshall
[19:43] <asdff> tucemiux: Desktop pc. Using the audio out port with headphones. The headphones are fine.
[19:43] <Timmarshall> right i need help!!!
[19:43] <tucemiux> !help | Timmarshall
[19:43] <guntbert> ivansmo: that command is sudo (or gksudo for graphical programs)
[19:43] <crazycars_1> Freakaaa!
[19:43] <crazycars_1> hello
[19:43] <crazycars_1> hi!
[19:44] <Timmarshall> im on talk talk broadband and wont talk talk wireless but its not compatible what do i do??
[19:44] <asdff> tucemiux: brb 1 second
[19:44] <BHoward> is talk talk wireless wimax?
[19:44] <Timmarshall> im not sure
[19:44] <tucemiux> asdff, install "gnome-alsamixer" if you dont have it installed already, click on "External amplifier", you can also try alsamixer in the command terminal to raise the volume
[19:45] <BHoward> explain your problem a little more. Whats not working? the modem?
[19:45] <Timmarshall> i wont wireless internet talk talk says its not compatible with linux
[19:45] <BHoward> ok looking at the talktalk website I see its just wifi
[19:46] <BHoward> dont listen to them...
[19:46] <asdff> tucemiux: I installed it earlier, nothing is muted everything is at full volume (switching sessions brb)
[19:46] <Duskin> Does world of warcraft have a linux client?
[19:46] <BHoward> lol
[19:46] <jef91> duskin no it does not but it runs pretty flawlessy under wine
[19:46] <BHoward> nope you can run it through wine or cedega though
[19:46] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, WoW you mean?  No, but it runs under wine
[19:46] <Duskin> Or can it run in WINE at least
[19:46] <Duskin> Flawless in wine eh...
[19:46] <jef91> Duskin there are files of howtos out there.
[19:47] <Timmarshall> so if i put the disk in for wireless it should install wifi internet connection
[19:47] <BHoward> @timmarshal as long as your wirless card is working you will be able to connect to a wifi router
[19:47] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, not flawless, and ONLY GL - graphics no where as good as in Windows i'm affraid
[19:47] <Timmarshall> i mean on my desktop
[19:47] <BHoward> I would use the disk because it wont have the drivers for linux on it
[19:47] <jef91> Duskin ZykoticK9 - thats true for most any game under Wine
[19:48] <jef91> BHoward what kind of wifi card?
[19:48] <Duskin> Any idea if WINE will run on powerpc architecture?
[19:48] <BHoward> not me.. its for timmarshal
[19:48] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, highly doubt it
[19:48] <asdff> tucemiux: back, apologies.
[19:48] <BHoward> tim, do you already have your wifi card in your computer?
[19:48] <jef91> Duskin No - will not
[19:48] <Timmarshall> nno
[19:48] <cana> claracsc@gmail.com
[19:48] <Timmarshall> i got broadband to my desktop
[19:48] <jef91> Duskin: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[19:48] <aurelia> a
[19:49] <Timmarshall> but i wont an upgrade to wi-fi
[19:49] <Duskin> Jef91: thanks
[19:49] <BHoward> go ahead and do it. Dont listen to talktalk because most wifi cards are supported
[19:49] <tucemiux> asdff, that is ok, so you are attempting to hear sound from a built in speaker in your computer or from the an output plug in the sound card?
[19:49] <aurelia> hola
[19:49] <aurelia> hwjhdhbhgergfg4h3mkiuedhriefhjwegsjuk
[19:49] <aurelia> jkgaegbjhvmfasbwbrbkdjbgrekuktjgskjeterjgbrkjdhbejh
[19:49] <Trek> !hi | aurelia
[19:49] <aurelia> kjdsbgrkbkjvbjkdb
[19:49] <FloodBot4> aurelia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <BHoward> people just say linux is not supported because they dont understand it and dont want to take the time
[19:49] <hagus> When I use my mouse to select a piece of text, I often have to press Ctrl as well in order for that piece of text to stay selected. This has been going on for a couple of months or so and I have no idea how it started or, more importantly, how to fix it.  Anyone any ideas?
[19:49] <tucemiux> !es| aurelia
[19:50] <asdff> tucemiux: the latter, an outpug plug in the sound card
[19:50] <Timmarshall> so how would i install the wifi with linux then
[19:50] <asdff> output* f
[19:50] <BHoward> just install your wifi card, it should detect it and if not then you may have to do some stuff
[19:50] <BHoward> !hardware
[19:50] <BHoward> goto that site to help you with hardware
[19:50] <pjjkziq> you can check lspci to see if the card is detected
[19:51] <hagus> ty BHoward  :)
[19:51] <BHoward> no problem
[19:52] <BHoward> if you have any problems just ask in the forums or come back here and someone will be happy to help
[19:52] <asdff> tucemiux: when I try and run gnome-volume-control from bash I get : WARNING ** Connection failed, as well as a GUI prompt saying: "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[19:52] <tucemiux> asdff, did you try rebooting your system?
[19:52] <asdff> tucemiux: :k... brb restarting
[19:53] <Timmarshall> Bhoward come to my house and do it for me im confussed XD
[19:53] <jef91> Timmarshall - whats the issue?
[19:53] <BHoward> whats confusing you?
[19:54] <Timmarshall> installing wifi
[19:54] <fuzzybear> hi. everytime i update my kernel, it updates my menu.lst wrongly... It puts my startup partition to (3,2) and it should be (0,2). Right now: i adjust it manually when i boot ubuntu and then change menu.lst manually... is there a way to "tell" ubuntu that it should use (0,2) instead of (3,2) ?
[19:54] <jef91> timmarshall what wifi card?
[19:54] <bullgard> Why does Ubuntu install on every system by default a user account 'postfix'?
[19:54] <Timmarshall> i dont know
[19:54] <BHoward> when you get your card just install it and then check your connection manager to see if its detected and installed
[19:54] <pjjkziq> is the wifi card pcmcia, pci, usb...?
[19:54] <tucemiux> fuzzybear, are you using karmic???
[19:55] <BHoward> if its not there then we can go a little further on the help
[19:55] <fuzzybear> yes tucemiux, but the problem was there in former versions as well
[19:55] <BHoward> until you get your card its hard to help you
[19:55] <otswim> hello, does someone know an app to retrieve a pdf from google books?
[19:55] <Timmarshall> it says wifi is enablled
[19:55] <BHoward> so you do already have a card?
[19:55] <tucemiux> fuzzybear, karmic does not use "menu.lst"
[19:55] <Pici> bullgard: It only adds that user on servers that have postfix installed.
[19:55] <Timmarshall> i dont no ive never checked
[19:56] <prodigel> hi all. Anyone familiar with ZTE mf110? I'm trying to install this device on my 64bit ubuntu 9.10. Drivers that come with the device don't work, also I can't get the system recognize it properly - it's still seen as a storage device.
[19:56] <BHoward> ok goto your terminal and type iwconfig
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> tucemiux, careful!  it does if you upgraded instead of fresh installing -- only fresh installs got Grub2
[19:56] <asdff> tucemiux: I am very sorry for wasting your time lol. A restart indeed fixed the problem. I think that guide may have helped (it was basically a reinstallation of many things).
[19:56] <kula_> hi ppl
[19:56] <fuzzybear> tucemiux: it does use that on my box, probably because i upgraded instead of new installation
[19:56] <BHoward> are there any interfaces listed?
[19:56] <Trek> !hi | kula_
[19:56] <Dravekx> I have 2 drives. 1 i use for a web server and the other I want to use for a file server. what software would be good to setup a file server??
[19:56] <Pici> !postfix | bullgard
[19:56] <tucemiux> ZykoticK9, thanks for the information, I never upgrade, I always install from the ISO
[19:56] <kula_> anyone knows why there is no snownews in repo?
[19:56] <jef91> Dravekx - just use samba
[19:57] <Timmarshall> no wireless extensions??
[19:57] <kula_> i mean repo for karmic
[19:57] <BHoward> ok now do lspci
[19:57] <fuzzybear> well tucemiux, i've been meaning to do a fresh install but i just don't find the time and waiting for a NAS purchase to temporarily backup my files
[19:57] <BHoward> and post the output to a pastebin
[19:58] <tucemiux> fuzzybear, youre right, menu.lst is there because you're still using legacy grub, #grub support channel doesnt even support #grub, you can try asking at another time and hopefully someome that still uses legacy grub can help you, or try the forums
[19:58] <BHoward> ubuntu.pastebin.com
[19:58] <fuzzybear> i don't really see why #grub wouldn't support that kind of grub anymore?
[19:58] <jef91> fuzzybear - kernel updates don't happen often, why even worry about it?
[19:58] <fuzzybear> i think a lot of people still use it
[19:59] <fuzzybear> as i said: i just change menu.lst and it's fine, but it just annoys me
[20:00] <switchgirl1> umm evolution sent lots of emails from years ago
[20:00] <Timmarshall> how do i find out ive got a wifi card
[20:00] <fuzzybear> i will try #grub if they can't help, i'll just leave it then.. thx anyways
[20:00] <Trek> Timmarshall, lspci or lsusb
[20:00] <Trek> Timmarshall, lspci if a PCI wifi card
[20:00] <jazz_> is anyone having the problem with the volume lowering and muting? specifically, not no sound from speakers or any of the previous bugs?!
[20:00] <Trek> Timmarshall, lsusb if USB
[20:00] <bullgard> Pici: "It only adds that user on servers that have postfix installed." <- Not only that. Ubuntu Karmic installs by default the DEB program package 'postfix' on every desktop install. Why do I need it? I don't think that I need it at all.
[20:00] <pjjkziq> type 'lspci' into the console, then use ubuntu.pastebin.com to post your results
[20:00] <Myrtti> !who
[20:00] <BHoward> @timmarshal type lspci in your terminal and post the output to ubuntu.pastebin.com
[20:01] <angasule> !grub
[20:01] <Timmarshall> what do i look for then??
[20:01] <Johnny_Smith_14> bonsoir j'ai un soucis j'ai deux PC UBUNTU j'aimerais partager mon imprimante reliée à l'un des deux PC via wifi et je n'y arrive pas j'ai parcouru tous les sites et forum et rien ne va quelqu'un peut m'aider ? merci
[20:01] <Myrtti> !fr | Johnny_Smith_14
[20:01] <BHoward> dont use lusb because if it was a usb wifi card then you would know that you have it
[20:01] <Johnny_Smith_14> #ubuntu-fr
[20:01] <Myrtti> Johnny_Smith_14: Ecrire /join #ubuntu-fr
[20:01] <jazz_> i reinstalled ubuntu 9.10 and volume became screwed up!
[20:01] <Timmarshall> what do i look for on lspci????
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> Timmarshall, perhaps this is easier "lspci | grep -i network"
[20:02] <tucemiux> otswim, can you download books for free?
[20:02] <pjjkziq> Timmarshall, if you post it we can help. but anything that suggests a wireless card, like Realtek or other drivers (it's easier to post)
[20:02] <Myrtti> !paste | Timmarshall
[20:02] <Timmarshall> id rather keep this information to myself for security reasons
[20:03] <BHoward> lol.... there is nothing there
[20:03] <Timmarshall> but i dont no that
[20:03] <Pici> bullgard: It shouldn't.  I don't have postfix installed on my own regular desktop computer that I have access to.
[20:03] <BHoward> ok if you cant do that then i cant help.
[20:03] <Timmarshall> for all i now this information could be used to spy on my actions
[20:04] <BHoward> its just hardware info. its not an ip, no exploits, nothing of importance
[20:04] <bullgard> Pici: Ah! Thank you for your observation. So it is prbably linked to Evolution or Thunderbird.
[20:04] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, i certainly don't have postfix on my desktop (but it's 10.04a2)
[20:04] <pjjkziq> Timmarshall, look up 'lspci' online if you want to know what type of information it contains (reliable third party)
[20:04] <Timmarshall> just tell me what to look for
[20:04] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, i have both evolution & thunderbird installed - but no postfix
[20:04] <BHoward> do you have a laptop or desktop tim?
[20:05] <otswim> tucemiux: some books on google are available in 'full preview', i was wondering if there were an (k)ubuntu app to get it
[20:05] <pjjkziq> TImmarshall, do you have a line that contains 802.11 in the text?
[20:05] <bullgard> ZykoticK9: Thank you for your observation.  --  And does your /etc/passwd include a 'postfix' entry?
[20:05] <Timmarshall> i have a desktop
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> Timmarshall, perhaps this is easier "lspci | grep -i network"
[20:05] <pjjkziq> like 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8180L 802.11b MAC (rev 20)
[20:06] <ZykoticK9> bullgard, nope
[20:06] <pjjkziq> (that is my lspci line for my wireless card)
[20:06] <tucemiux> otswim, can you download the books?  if they're in PDF format you should still see them even if they're attached in a browser
[20:06] <trism> otswim: you can just click the download link in the corner and choose either epub or pdf
[20:06] <pjjkziq> TImmarshall, my desktop has one that says something like "Atheros communications"
[20:07] <BHoward> tim unless you installed a card already in your desktop. chances are it didnt come with one
[20:07] <naruivan0> ola
[20:07] <naruivan0> de ke kolegio sois
[20:07] <bullgard> ZykoticK9: Thank you. Now I have the problem to find out why it is installed on two of my Thinkpad Karmic computers.
[20:07] <Timmarshall> great
[20:07] <BHoward> sometimes they do. but not always
[20:07] <Timmarshall> so its a waste of time then
[20:07] <rww> Plenty of desktops have wifi cards, and some of them are internally USB connected. Mine is.
[20:07] <naruivan0> oooollllaaaa
[20:07] <naruivan0> hello
[20:08] <smacnay> does ubuntu have some sort of firewall started by default?
[20:08] <Timmarshall> whats the usb one agin in terminal
[20:08] <pjjkziq> many newer ones have them
[20:08] <ZykoticK9> smacnay, not be default
[20:08] <naruivan0> i am ivan
[20:08] <pjjkziq> lsusb (but that probably won't help)
[20:08] <BHoward> thats true rww. however if you get one and are able to handle installing ubuntu on it yet not know if you have wifi then you probably dont have it
[20:08] <naruivan0> i is in espain
[20:08] <rww> ubottu: es | naruivan0
[20:08] <bullgard> smacnay: No. It is safe by design under normal circumstances.
[20:08] <smacnay> ZykoticK9, ok, thanks - I have a server in the basement running ubuntu and cannot access it via rdp.
[20:08] <otswim> tucemiux: trism: there is no download button for books that are not in full preview
[20:09] <smacnay> I have xrdp up and running and the local switch allows all traffic between lan comps.
[20:09] <smacnay> not sure why it doesn't work.
[20:09] <BHoward> without posting your lspci and lsusb tim then we can give you a definite answer
[20:09] <BHoward> cant*
[20:09] <Timmarshall> whats linux foundation 2.o root hub??
[20:09] <mido_> how to  convert *.ogv to avi but in high quality ?
[20:09] <coolcat> how do I make an autotools-package use icc compiler(that is in my path) instead of gcc?
[20:09] <trism> otswim: yes, this is correct, because you aren't supposed to download them
[20:09] <erUSUL> Timmarshall: the usb controller
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> mido_, you can't upgrade quality in a conversion -- but check out avidemux if you want a gui app
[20:10] <erUSUL> coolcat: probably calling it with CC=icc
[20:10] <Timmarshall> im going do do this the easy wayy
[20:10] <otswim> trism: it's not to download the full book, just the part that is available
[20:10] <Timmarshall> get a wifi searcher of software centre
[20:10] <Z_God> somehow "apt-get source" is broken here, am I the only one with this problem?
[20:10] <Z_God> and idea on how to fix it?
[20:10] <rww> Z_God: Do you have deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[20:10] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: is there a picture of two computers on the top right corner of your screen?
[20:10] <BHoward> the easy way would be to have one of us look at your lspci and lsusb output....
[20:11] <deacon> what kind of printer can i buy to run on linux?
[20:11] <coolcat> erUSUL, You mean export CC and run configure?
[20:11] <Z_God> rww: yes, it can download everything properly
[20:11] <mido_> ZykoticK9, i used ffmpeg to convert that .. but the converted file was poor quality
[20:11] <Z_God> rww: but after extracting, a chmod fails
[20:11] <BHoward> it may be possible you do have a wifi card but no driver installed
[20:11] <Illuminatus> hi
[20:11] <blakkheim> mido_: sounds like you need to man ffmpeg
[20:11] <Illuminatus> I have a question, if I try to mount a nfs dir with an uid that doesn't exist in the server and I'm not using all_squash, could I mount it ?
[20:11] <Timmarshall> no just my ethanet connection
[20:11] <ZykoticK9> mido_, ffmpeg is very good - there are lots of settings, try adjusting the quality somehow
[20:11] <erUSUL> coolcat: CC=icc ./configure should do or maybe the configure script has an option for that
[20:11] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: ok, click the ethernet connection button
[20:11] <erUSUL> coolcat: see configure --help
[20:11] <mido_> blakkheim, I did this
[20:12] <Timmarshall> yesss
[20:12] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: can you see any wireless networks in there when you do that?
[20:12] <mido_> ok ZykoticK9
[20:12] <Timmarshall> yeah it says disconnected
[20:12] <Timmarshall> with wireless bt hub
[20:12] <Timmarshall> locked
[20:12] <Z_God> rww: http://pastebin.com/f1f6ee5ba
[20:12] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: disconnect or disconnected?
[20:12] <Timmarshall> and o2 wireless
[20:12] <_gtt_> can someone tell me the significant differences between lshw lspci lsusb ?
[20:13] <BHoward> @Timmarshall it is still possible you have a wifi card installed but its not configured. without seeing your lspci or lsusb we wont know what kind of hardware you have and what type of driver you need
[20:13] <Illuminatus> I have a question, if I try to mount a nfs dir with an uid that doesn't exist in the server and I'm not using all_squash, could I mount it ?
[20:13] <Timmarshall> disconnected
[20:13] <rww> _gtt_: lspci shows PCI devices, lsusb shows USB devices, lshw shows ridiculous amounts of detail about everything
[20:13] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: and what happens if you choose the wireless bt hub, for instance?
[20:13] <BHoward> lspci lists pci hardware and lsusb lists usb devices
[20:13] <Timmarshall> the authentication comes up
[20:14] <BHoward> lshw hurts my brain
[20:14] <erUSUL> _gtt_: lspci list pci connected devices lsusb displayes all usb conected devices. lshw uses /sys/  to report all connected devices the kernel know about
[20:14] <rww> Z_God: Weird. Does it only happen with that package?
[20:14] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: so your wifi works on your computer.
[20:14] <Z_God> rww: nope with all of them
[20:14] <Timmarshall> but i havnt got a wifi router though im getting it soon
[20:14] <Z_God> here is the english version: http://pastebin.com/f51326690
[20:15] <BHoward> would a BT hub be bluetooth?
[20:15] <Timmarshall> im on broadband at the moment
[20:15] <erUSUL> BHoward: probably
[20:15] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: so what was your problem then?
[20:15] <Aijse> deacon, hp printers are prety well supported
[20:15] <rww> Z_God: The actual error there is: "chmod: cannot read directory `/home/julius/1down/libxml/libmad_0.15.1b.orig.tar.gz.tmp-extract.CQk0S/libmad-0.15.1b': Permission denied"
[20:15] <toastedmilk> So, I have some linux images on a partition of my hard drive but grub won't read them, what should I do?
[20:16] <toastedmilk> rww: sudo?
[20:16] <Z_God> rww: yeah it indeed doesn't exist
[20:16] <Timmarshall> how do i configure the wifi when it comes
[20:16] <rww> toastedmilk: you shouldn't need it for apt-get source
[20:16] <deacon> Aijse thanks
[20:16] <Z_God> rww: with other packages I get a similar error
[20:16] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: it probably will be configured through your browser
[20:16] <Z_God> rww: I already tried purging dpkg-dev & devscripts
[20:16] <BHoward> seems like you have bluetooth and no wifi. best thing to do is just wait till you get your router and see if it works. If not you will need to give somebody enough information to help you or do some searching on ubuntu forums
[20:16] <Aijse> deacon, google for hplip
[20:17] <rww> Z_God: Do you have write access to the directory you're running apt-get source from? You could test that by running "touch testfile" from the same directory.
[20:17] <brontosaurusrex> any clues why usb drive formated on ubuntu as fat32 would not be readable with snow leopard?
[20:17] <Z_God> rww: sure the other files are put in there without problems
[20:17] <blakkheim> brontosaurusrex: this isn't a snow leopard  support channel
[20:17] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: if the talktalk sales people have told you that the wifi will not work with your ubuntu, they must have understood something wrong.
[20:17] <Darkben> this is not a snow leopard channel
[20:18] <brontosaurusrex> any clues why usb drive formated on ubuntu as fat32 would not be readable with some other unnamed os?
[20:18] <toastedmilk> blakkheim: hey, do you remember trying to help me getting the latest version of my linux image to run?
[20:18] <blakkheim> !repeat | brontosaurusrex
[20:18] <Timmarshall> they are pakistanies though
[20:18] <blakkheim> toastedmilk: no
[20:18] <Myrtti> Timmarshall: irrelevant
[20:18] <Vhozard> Why does the ATI drivers suck?
[20:19] <Timmarshall> i wouldnt expect them to know about computers
[20:19] <blakkheim> Vhozard: because ati is the enemy of your freedom
[20:19] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: because ati sucks.
[20:19] <BHoward> lol cause ATI hates linux
[20:19] <Pici> Timmarshall: Please be nice, this is an International channel.
[20:19] <Timmarshall> my ati cpu works with ubuntu fine
[20:19] <blakkheim> Timmarshall: ati doesn't make cpus
[20:19] <Aijse> because ati dont want to give the specs from there cards
[20:19] <rww> Z_God: alright, I'm out of ideas. Sorry :(
[20:19] <toastedmilk> Timmarshall: yeah..
[20:20] <Timmarshall> i am not being rascist or discriminative i am sorry if i offended anyone
[20:20] <toastedmilk> blakkheim: do you know how to get grub to read an image file it doesn't have on the boot loader from a different partition?
[20:20] <Z_God> rww: I also really have no clue what could be going on :)
[20:20] <Zer7> What dependencies do I need to put in Upstart for /sys/class/hwmon to be available?
[20:20] <Timmarshall> my apologises
[20:20] <Zer7> That is to say, what provides it?
[20:20] <Vhozard> blakkheim toastedmilk No, ATI doesnt suck. No ATI isnt the enemy of my freedom. Yes, Linux is not important enough :/
[20:20] <blakkheim> Vhozard: those are opinions, obviously they could be debated
[20:20] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: ATI cards just don't work well with linux.  I have one, it took me FOREVER to get direct rendering
[20:20] <rww> Vhozard: I have an ATI Radeon HD 3450. It works fine with xserver-xorg-video-radeon. It has basic 3D compositing support in Lucid. I am happy with it. If you're not happy with it, please use whatever works for you instead of doing offtopic bashing in #ubuntu.
[20:20] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: and certainly not with my legacy card
[20:20] <Timmarshall> my ati worked fine though
[20:21] <toastedmilk> rww: isn't the radeonhd open source driver experimental?
[20:21] <BHoward> I have never had any luck with ati.. at least not newer cards
[20:21] <Vhozard> rww Well, I actually wanted to know how fast the open drivers are progressing...
[20:21] <mguy> Mine works fine out of the box with Ubuntu 9.10, ATI 4850?
[20:21] <Aijse> I believe their fglrx driver works allright with new cards
[20:21] <alejandro> ola
[20:21] <toastedmilk> Aijse: true
[20:22] <CyL> Is there any fancy app for ubuntu that would allow me to do dual head withou all the xrandr and xorg.conf hassle?
[20:22] <sponzor> the ubuntu uses apache.conf and no httpd.conf?
[20:22] <rww> Vhozard: Ah, okay. Surprisingly fast. As I said, I have basic 3D support now. I got awesome 2D support and video a release or two ago.
[20:22] <toastedmilk> BHoward: fglrx should work fine
[20:22] <ZykoticK9> CyL, if you have Nvidia - yes, nvidia-settings
[20:22] <svenbuntu> does anyone know where xchat keeps logs?
[20:22] <Vhozard> rww Including vsync on metacity?
[20:22] <CyL> ZykoticK9: intel?
[20:22] <alejandro> no ablo ingles si no español
[20:22] <rww> ubottu: es | alejandro
[20:22] <ZykoticK9> CyL, then i doubt it
[20:22] <toastedmilk> alejandro: ubuntu-es
[20:22] <BHoward> I teach a Linux class here and we have install parties every month. The only problem I really ever have hardware wise are peoples printers. No problems with graphics cards generally
[20:23] <rww> Vhozard: I'm not sure of the terminology, but I've never seen any screen tearing with metacity, so if that's what you mean, then yes.
[20:23] <toastedmilk> BHoward: you've lucked out thus far haha
[20:23] <rww> Vhozard: Some people would recommend fglrx. I find that fglrx is actually worse at 2D stuff than radeon now :)
[20:23] <Aijse> Bhoward, try to include tvout and/or multiple heads, then problems will appear :P
[20:23] <BHoward> lol
[20:23] <toastedmilk> rww: If you have a legacy card, definitely use the radeon driver
[20:23] <BHoward> no
[20:24] <BHoward> :)
[20:24] <Vhozard> rww Yes, that´s what I mean. And I have a HD4850 and I can´t find ANY way to turn off the terrible tearing of metacity/compiz.
[20:24] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: which driver are you using?
[20:24] <rww> toastedmilk: I have an R6xx card, which isn't particularly legacy. It's still supported by fglrx, anyway.
[20:24] <toastedmilk> rww: yes, it's supported by fglrx.  but you said you were using the radeonhd driver?
[20:24] <alejandro> ketal
[20:24] <rww> toastedmilk: no, radeon
[20:25] <Vhozard> toastedmilk I´ve tried the default ubuntu open ati driver, but im now using fglrx
[20:25] <ultem> Hullo. Does someone still know how to sync a PalmPilot (good old 1997) via RS232 using gnome-pilot or pilot-xfer?
[20:25] <soreau> Vhozard: You are probably using the proprietary fglrx driver
[20:25] <Vhozard> soreau Yes, I know. :)
[20:25] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: Well, I don't have any knowledge of the fglrx driver
[20:25] <soreau> Vhozard: With the open driver, it is possible to have vsync with IRQ enabled in latest kernels
[20:26] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: but radeonhd is experimental for 3D
[20:26] <toastedmilk> soreau: right?
[20:26] <soreau> radeonhd is not recommended
[20:26] <Vhozard> soreau With latest you mean 2.6.33.xx ?
[20:26] <toastedmilk> So, I have some linux images on a partition of my hard drive but grub won't read them, what should I do?
[20:26] <soreau> Instead, you want the radeon driver
[20:26] <soreau> even for HD cards
[20:26] <toastedmilk> soreau: wouldn't he want radeonhd?
[20:26] <rww> toastedmilk: so is radeon. They're using highly similar 3D code, from what I hear.
[20:26] <soreau> toastedmilk: no
[20:26] <rww> toastedmilk: no, radeon works fine with Radeon HD cards.
[20:26] <toastedmilk> rww: no shit!  that's pretty sweet.
[20:27] <soreau> It is not similar code
[20:27] <Vhozard> No, I know I don´t want radeonhd. radeon is just fine.
[20:27] <rww> toastedmilk: watch your language. and yes, it is :)
[20:27] <soreau> radeonhd cannot work with kms, thus no dri2
[20:27] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: well, at least until a fully functional radeonhd driver is released
[20:27] <toastedmilk> rww: :P
[20:27] <soreau> toastedmilk: radeonhd is dying
[20:27] <soreau> the open radeon driver is where all of the cool things are happening
[20:27] <`mOOse`> gerry__,  - I love this gThumb - thanks again for the suggestion
[20:27] <Vhozard> soreau You said something about full VSYNC support (2D) ?
[20:28] <toastedmilk> soreau: so is the community going to just leave the hd cards to fglrx, or implement them in the radeon driver?
[20:28] <`mOOse`> it's exactly what I was looking for
[20:28] <toastedmilk> Vhozard: yes, with the open-source driver
[20:28] <BHoward> does anybody know what type of wireless cards are used in alienware?
[20:28] <soreau> Vhozard: With latest kernels, there is now IRQ support which allows for vsync
[20:28] <gerry__> `mOOse`: glad it solves your issue :)
[20:28] <BHoward> cant find a decent answer
[20:28] <rww> svenbuntu: .xchat2 in your home folder. You may need to show hidden files (Ctrl-H, I think) to get it to show up.
[20:28] <toastedmilk> BHoward: isn't alienware kind of like newegg?
[20:28] <soreau> Vhozard: More info in #radeon if you want to know
[20:28] <guntbert> svenbuntu: .xchat2/xchatlogs
[20:29] <Vhozard> I´ll look there, thank you.
[20:29] <rww> guntbert: I see you use -meta also :)
[20:29] <toastedmilk> soreau: lol, radeon is usually dead
[20:29] <BHoward> not real sure, im thinking about buying the new netbook they are putting out but would like to do some reasearch on the wifi.
[20:29] <`mOOse`> (I just got out of work and on my xubuntu install now)
[20:29] <renfox> does anyone know how to change the default email app in the indicator applet?
[20:29] <toastedmilk> BHoward: umm..i think you can get whichever card you want
[20:29] <soreau> toastedmilk: You have it all backward. radeonhd is dying, radeon is very lively
[20:29] <Vhozard> #radeon --> 1 person in the room: ¨Vhozard¨ -.-
[20:29] <guntbert> rww: how in the world did you guess ? ;-)
[20:30] <toastedmilk> soreau: no, #radeon the channel
[20:30] <toastedmilk> soreau: so is the community going to just leave the hd cards to fglrx, or implement them in the radeon driver?
[20:30] <rww> Vhozard: You're doing something wrong, there are over 200 people in there :\
[20:30] <soreau> toastedmilk: You are very confused
[20:31] <ZykoticK9> How to get this channel offtopic for 5 minutes -- enter #ubuntu and ask why the ATI driver is so poor  ;)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:31] <toastedmilk> soreau: no, im just fairly uneducated
[20:31] <Vhozard> rww Ah, I see. I got the wrong server ;)
[20:31] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: hi
[20:31] <soreau> toastedmilk: Fair enough
[20:31] <toastedmilk> soreau: you said the radeonhd driver was dying, correct?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> who is Frigg who CTPs me when I join?
[20:32] <Myrtti> ActionParsnip: look at the cloak of it
[20:32] <rww> ActionParsnip: Freenode service bot
[20:32] <erUSUL> toastedmilk: radeonhd does not mean driver for hd cards
[20:32] <toastedmilk> erUSUL: what?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> rww: cool, but why though?
[20:32] <lenswipe> guys root cant login to my server
[20:33] <lenswipe> anyone got any ideas?
[20:33] <erUSUL> toastedmilk: that plain radeaon already supports HDxxxx cards
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> rww: dont have a problem with it, just curious
[20:33] <rww> ActionParsnip: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect
[20:33] <Myrtti> lenswipe: good. don't enable the account either
[20:33] <erUSUL> !root | lenswipe
[20:33] <toastedmilk> erUSUL: so...what is radeonhd?
[20:33] <rww> ActionParsnip: as the anchor suggests, it's the replacement for the Freenodeconnect bot
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: thats good, use a normal account and use sudo
[20:33] <erUSUL> toastedmilk: is a driver with a different architecture. somewhat an experiment (that failed)
[20:33] <soreau> toastedmilk: Yes, get more info in #radeon. The channel is not dead at all, if you idle there for any length of time. Also, it is officially logged, so you can read how much traffic is there each day
[20:33] <lenswipe> ActionParsnip, except root is enabled - root login has just recently stopped today
[20:34] <LuciusSir> has anyone else used vlc media player and have the audio cut out until you do a killall of vlc, randomly ?
[20:34] <toastedmilk> So, I have some linux images on a partition of my hard drive but grub won't read them, what should I do?
[20:34] <rww> toastedmilk: There are three xorg drivers for Radeon HD cards: radeon, radeonhd, and fglrx. The first two are open source. radeonhd was somewhat experimental, radeon is generally a better choice.
[20:34] <Myrtti> lenswipe: then you've voided your warranty - we can't support systems that have root account enabled.
[20:34] <erUSUL> lenswipe: we do not support that configuration here
[20:34] <Myrtti> lenswipe: it's not the ubuntu way.
[20:34] <toastedmilk> rww: yeah, I just got the whole gist of that xD
[20:34] <lenswipe> Myrtti, the hell are you on about? there is no warranty
[20:34] <Guest86649> anyone know a "scramdisk" type encryption prog for linex thanks
[20:34] <toastedmilk> rww, but thanks!
[20:34] <lenswipe> Myrtti, presumably the ubuntu way is to fanny around with sudo - yes?
[20:34] <Myrtti> lenswipe: yes.
[20:34] <toastedmilk> erUSUL, soreau, thanks to you guys too
[20:35] <erUSUL> Guest86649: what does "scramdisk" do ?
[20:35] <onaogh> lenswipe, this is your local server ?
[20:35] <LuciusSir> its quite anoying, i'll be halfway through watching a movie or less and suddenly the sound goes bye bye, for no apparent reason, but then if i kill the vlc process it will play again as soon as I open the media file again
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> lenswipe: the channel doesn't support using root or enabling root. its not needed
[20:35] <Myrtti> he's gone, guys
[20:35] <LuciusSir> enabling root isn't hard :P
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: tried the vlc ppa version?
[20:35] <LuciusSir> ppa ?
[20:36] <erUSUL> LuciusSir: erasing all your files isnnot either
[20:36] <LuciusSir> i just used the one provided from the repo
[20:36] <toastedmilk> LuciusSir: Personal Package Archive
[20:36] <onaogh> what is MSDOS tree cmd equivalent in Linux
[20:36] <LuciusSir> toastedmilk:  whats the difference ?
[20:36] <erUSUL> onaogh: tree
[20:36] <erUSUL> you have to install it though
[20:36] <erUSUL> !info tree
[20:36] <LuciusSir> toastedmilk:  i simply did an apt-get install vlc
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: theres a later build on a ppa. websearch it
[20:36] <joza> have any ubuntu studio?
[20:36] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  what is ppa ?
[20:37] <toastedmilk> LuciusSir: well, ppa's have support for different problems.
[20:37] <erUSUL> !ppa > LuciusSir
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | luciussir
[20:37] <LuciusSir> ohhhh its like the opensuse build service
[20:37] <temppu> problem: ubuntu 9.10 wireless connects, but does not let you outside of local network. Works with eth0. Any ideas?
[20:37] <titan_ark> ZykoticK9, well you could make it on-topic. facing trouble with power management
[20:37] <LuciusSir> do they test the packages once they're published the same way ?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: someone has compiled a newer vlc for all to use. try it
[20:37] <toastedmilk> temppu: what does dhclient say?
[20:38] <temppu> toastedmilk: not that good with this, what was that?-)
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: the ppa maintainer will test although its not mandatory
[20:38] <ZykoticK9> !ask > titan_ark
[20:38] <toastedmilk> temppu: go to a terminal and type in 'sudo dhclient'
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: the newer version may help
[20:38] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  is there a special build tool for ubuntu or can i just download the vanilla source and compile it myself if i wanna ?
[20:39] <renfox> e connection]
[20:39] <renfox> 14:38 < temppu> toastedmilk: not that good with this, what was that?-)
[20:39] <toastedmilk> renfox: go to a terminal and type in 'sudo dhclient'
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: you will add an extra repo and the app will auto update as the system will see a newer version available
[20:39] <toastedmilk> ...
[20:39] <toastedmilk> temppu: go to a terminal and type in 'sudo dhclient' and paste the output on pastebin
[20:39] <Diverdude> how can i see what version of valgrind resides in the ubuntu repos before i install it?
[20:39] <benkong2> what's wrong with this command?
[20:39] <benkong2> hello all
[20:39] <MTecknology> I need to move from a larger HD to a small one - I'd prefer make one exact copy with partitions proportionate to what they are now - any suggestions?
[20:40] <rww> ubottu: version | Diverdude
[20:40] <benkong2> update-alternatives --install tclsh wish /opt/path/to/Tcl/bin/wish8.5 5
[20:40] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  ahhh i see just like opensuse then
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: apt-cache policy packagename
[20:40] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  is that the page which has the repo links ?
[20:40] <hagus> What causes a mouse to lose its selection or alternate very quickly from selected to unselected?  Would that be to do with Compiz or some such thing?
[20:40] <Myrtti> benkong2: what are you trying to do?
[20:40] <benkong2> error is update-alternatives: error: alternative link is not absolute as it should be:
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: well both are linux ;)
[20:40] <ZykoticK9> Diverdude, apt-cache policy valgrind
[20:40] <brontosaurusrex> does karmic now has full support for ntfs?
[20:40] <benkong2> trying to add Activestate Tcl to alternatives
[20:40] <benkong2> Myrtti:
[20:40] <titan_ark> ZykoticK9, damn, got disconnected. i am facing trouble with power management. everytime notebook recovers from sleep it used to say no battery. this was on KDE,. now on gnome also it shows me no battery but my screen is very low contrast even though power is plugged in
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: go to google. search for: vlc ppa
[20:41] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  hehe i know i just thought that was avant guarde for opensuse i wasn't aware there was a similar thingy for ubuntu
[20:41] <hagus> How would one make a mouse behave properly?
[20:41] <ZykoticK9> titan_ark, sorry man I have NO idea, best of luck - hopefully someone else has something for you.
[20:41]  * hagus reckons that mouse-obedience classes are not the answer :)
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: there are ppas for lots of stuff
[20:41] <ppaulhus> how can I find which process has open connections on a specific port? seems like a rogue process on a server of mine is causing mayhem on irc... i see some connections using netstat, but not sure how to find the process which is responsible
[20:42] <titan_ark> ZykoticK9, okay thanks. i see a bug fix that requires a kernel rebuild but i am not good enough for that
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> ppaulhus: netstat -a
[20:42] <ppaulhus> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I dont think this gives me the process
[20:42] <Diverdude> ActionParsnip, hmm okay...so just to be sure...when it writes: Candidate: 1:3.5.0-2ubuntu2, then its 3.5.0-2 and not 1.3.5.0-2 or something like that right?
[20:42] <benkong2> Myrtti: I need tcl 8.5 for my tutorial I need libtcltk8.5 but ubuntu only gives me 8.4
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> ppaulhus: it will tell you the name and you can then grep the output of: ps -ef to find what the pid is
[20:43] <hagus> Maybe I am getting slow in my old age - maybe I cannot respond fast enough for my mouse ?
[20:43] <erUSUL> ppaulhus: sudo lsof -i :portnumber
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> benkong2: search the ppas
[20:43] <benkong2> ActionParsnip: hmmm ok
[20:44] <temppu> toastedmilk: connection cut after dhclient command, and then minute later whole ubuntu crashed
[20:44] <erUSUL> !info tcl8.5 | benkong2
[20:44] <Myrtti> benkong2: which version of ubuntu are you running? karmic?
[20:44] <xenocampanoli> My vpn service is not connecting with Ubuntu 9.10, and other co-workers using other Ubuntus connect fine.
[20:44] <benkong2> Myrtti: yes karmic
[20:44] <toastedmilk> temppu: ...that's bad.
[20:44] <benkong2> but it makes 8.4 default
[20:45] <xenocampanoli> I worked with a person whose is working, and he sees no difference.
[20:45] <toastedmilk> temppu: try running that command from a virtual console and pastebinit
[20:45] <blas> hola
[20:45] <benkong2> I can install the 8.5 files but
[20:45] <temppu> toastedmilk: what should I look in in dhclient?
[20:45] <erUSUL> benkong2: sudo update-alternatives --config tcl
[20:45] <LuciusSir> raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwrrrr wheres the damn repo link LOL
[20:45] <allexxx> #ubuntu.gr
[20:45] <xenocampanoli> We did have to downgrade from strongswan, but other than that, we did little to change things.  Our system requires a group password, and uses a pcf.
[20:45] <benkong2> erUSUL: I am trying to add a location
[20:45] <toastedmilk> temppu: dhclient tries to find a working connection for all networking ports
[20:45] <benkong2> erUSUL: will that work?
[20:45] <hagus> My mouse loses focus when I try to highlight from one end of a line of text to the other.  By the time I reach the far end, the highlight has lift from the other end :(
[20:45] <toastedmilk> temppu: why it crashed your system is beyond me
[20:45] <steve_> dont suppose anyone here is useing a nvidia mx440
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: in karmic it will be: sudo add-apt-repository ppa;//something
[20:46] <erUSUL> benkong2: sorry is --> sudo update-alternatives --config tclsh
[20:46] <xenocampanoli> I also tried putting all these in combination in the /etc/vpnc directory, and it fails there.
[20:46] <ppaulhus> ActionParsnip: so if the output of netstat gives me this, what do i do with lsof: tcp        0      0 10.251.123.229:60877    69.16.172.34:6667       TIME_WAIT
[20:46] <LuciusSir> steve: i had a problem with my nvidia 5200 fx
[20:46] <temppu> toastedmilk: I'll try again, lets see what happens
[20:46]  * hagus wonders if mouse problems have been reported in connection with 9.10?
[20:46] <xenocampanoli> Is there a better group for vpn stuff on Ubuntu?
[20:46] <steve_> how did you fix it was it resolution problem ?
[20:46] <LuciusSir> LuciusSir:  to make the driver from the nvidia site work i had to uninstall all nvidia shtuff hosted on the ubuntu repo
[20:46] <LuciusSir> LuciusSir:  and then install the driver
[20:46] <LuciusSir> oops
[20:47] <benkong2> erUSUL: that works but I need to add my /opt/ActivestateTcl-8.5/bin
[20:47] <LuciusSir> that was directed at you steve
[20:47] <trism> benkong2: if you're curious, the error from the command you gave above is that tclsh must be an absolute path, such as /usr/bin/tclsh
[20:47] <benkong2> to the list ^^
[20:47] <joza> hi, have any ardour gtk2?
[20:47] <erUSUL> benkong2: why you insist in using Activestate tcl ???
[20:47] <benkong2> trism: so can I make a link to mine in /usr/bin
[20:48] <LuciusSir> steve_: also inputting your monitor specs into the xorg.conf file manually was necessary to get it to switch to a mode above fricking 640x480
[20:48] <steve_> LuciusSir, i have done that and still its the same
[20:48] <toastedmilk> temppu: try it in a virtual console!
[20:48] <LuciusSir> steve_:  did you include a mode list ?
[20:48] <benkong2> erUSUL: later version and and Activestate recommends it for my tutor
[20:48] <maria> hola
[20:48] <steve_> do you want me to past for you ?
[20:48] <Bennage> evening,
[20:48] <erUSUL> !es | maria
[20:49] <LuciusSir> steve_: i'll dcc you my xorg.conf file if you want an example
[20:49] <jon23d> Hello, I'm trying to get the updated GD library working on an ubuntu server, but am having issues.  I am following the instructions here: http://www.howtoforge.com/recompiling-php5-with-bundled-support-for-gd-on-ubuntu , but after running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot I get: dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
[20:49] <Bennage> i'm still struggling to get a USB boot working on my netbook
[20:49] <LuciusSir> steve_: beyond that my success required hours of pulling my hair out not knowing what to do LOL
[20:49] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: ok, if I run dhclient it will cut the connection
[20:49] <Bennage> I'm having to install onto USB on a Mac, then use it on the netbook
[20:50] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: which was eth0 (and wireless)
[20:50] <Bennage> but it's not booting from the USB stick at all.
[20:50] <steve_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/372019/
[20:50] <toastedmilk> Temppuu1: try 'sudo dhclient auto wlan0', or whatever your wireless port is named
[20:50] <steve_> please share im in day 5 and i have not been sleeping
[20:50] <ppl8x> ger or en?
[20:51] <LuciusSir> steve_: have you tried stopping the kdm or gdm service and starting the x-server manually while piping its output to a file for later viewing ?
[20:51] <Bennage> can anyone tell me how to make the USB bootable?
[20:51] <LuciusSir> steve_: thats what told me what was wrong with mine
[20:51] <`mOOse`> I have a usb install of xubuntu and suse...
[20:51] <Bennage> i've tried holding down Alt when starting up the Mac, and it doesn't show up there either
[20:51] <doobeh> Is it possible to get rsync to build, and sync from a file-list?  E.g. if I have locations A and B, where both are large stores, but only a small storage C to move the data between the two, can I get rsync to build a list from A, then use B to diff against the list and put the files required for sync on C?
[20:51] <ppl8x> in ned help with develspie, do sb know this aplication????
[20:51] <`mOOse`> trick is to remove the hd from the computer before you begin
[20:51] <steve_> yes i tried but im a novice and dont relly know whats going on
[20:52] <Bennage> hmmm
[20:52] <steve_> i got enuff skills to do most things
[20:52] <LuciusSir> steve_: pastebin the log for me
[20:52] <steve_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/372019/
[20:52] <Bennage> i've got the ISO, and converted it to .dmg as it says in the tutorial
[20:52] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: can attach to paste.ubuntu, because I'm computer is not connected to network. But relovconf error...
[20:52] <sandman> Can someone get my microphone working? It works upon boot. But then later fails to work.
[20:52] <LuciusSir> steve_: your screen section isn't referencing your driver or monitor...
[20:53] <sandman> It's reproducible, also.
[20:53] <`mOOse`> Bennage,  these are true installs - not caspers or casper-rw's
[20:53] <guntbert> ppl8x: there is #ubuntu-de too (if you are more comfortable with german)
[20:53] <steve_> how do i make the change ?
[20:53] <`mOOse`> they act look and behave exactly like a hd install
[20:53] <toastedmilk> Temppu1: okay.. first, try 'sudo dhclient auto eth0'
[20:53] <Bennage> `mOOse`: ?
[20:53] <`mOOse`> except they're on a 4 gig usb
[20:53] <toastedmilk> Temmpu1: if it works, do 'sudo apt-get install pastebinit'
[20:53] <toastedmilk> Temmpu1: then 'pastebinit dhclient'
[20:53] <skyl> I have installed postgres but this time I have no /etc/postgresql/8.4/.... directory or files
[20:54] <`mOOse`> Bennage,  I don't know what tutorial you're looking at - url?
[20:54] <sandman> Help me get it working, rather. I've looked through PulseAudio, all my system logs, configurations. I've played with /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to no avail, so I reverted back to defaults...
[20:54] <skyl> /etc/postgresql-common/ is the only thing that is there
[20:54] <Bennage> ...
[20:54] <ppl8x> guntbert:  i try to learn english prof. :)
[20:54] <LuciusSir> steve_: one sec i'll pastebin my config file
[20:54] <Bennage> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:54] <sandman> I also tried changing the ports (front ports versus back), no go. However, sound works perfectly in Windows.
[20:54]  * steve_ bows for LuciusSir 
[20:55] <`mOOse`> you want to install from a usb or RUN ubuntu from a usb?
[20:55] <sandman> So anyway, I am unable to use any VoIP networks, Skype or what-have-you, because the mic just dies after about 5 minutes on the system.
[20:55] <Bennage> no
[20:55] <sandman> Works for a bit, then dies.
[20:55] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: cant do that, its not connected to network. I changed computers after it crashed every time
[20:55] <Jooder492> why does my sound no longer work for youtube or any web sound?  only works for my music player and chat
[20:55] <`mOOse`> no what?
[20:55] <Bennage> install from USB and run on the local HD
[20:55] <skyl> I have no /etc/postgresql/8.4/main :'(
[20:55] <Ferrenrock> ok, does anyone know of a firewall program for linux that lets you throttle client connections live...i.e. you don't need to restart the settings, like IP tables?
[20:55] <guntbert> ppl8x: good - but I have to admint that your question was not clear to me - try to write whole words and sentences
[20:55] <`mOOse`> ahk...
[20:55] <guntbert> *admit
[20:56] <sandman> I am also getting a bunch of these: pulseaudio[1354]: ratelimit.c: 1 events suppressed
[20:56] <toastedmilk> Temmpu1: you tried 'sudo dhclient auto eth0' from a virtual console?
[20:56] <LuciusSir> steve_: http://www.pastebin.org/88443
[20:56] <LuciusSir> steve_: hope that helps
[20:56] <sandman> Ferrenrock: Are you just concerned that one app will consume all the bandwidth?
[20:56] <steve_> thanks mate i will have a look and let you know
[20:56] <`mOOse`> Bennage,  and you don't have a windows pc available?
[20:56] <LuciusSir> steve_:  if it doesn't try also doing a startx &>mylog.txt and viewing what the server spits out
[20:56] <LuciusSir> steve_: might give ya some clues
[20:56] <LuciusSir> brb all
[20:57] <Ferrenrock> sandman: no, I'm concerned about that, torrent connections, etc
[20:57] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: running it straight from terminal
[20:57] <Bennage> `mOOse`: I only have parallels on this mac...
[20:57] <sandman> Have you looked at Wondershaper?
[20:57] <Ferrenrock> sandman: I'm thinking something that can do what htop does and show me all connections but also let me drop or throttle them
[20:57] <steve_> i think i might have been playing wiht the wrong xconfig file
[20:57] <kad__> hey need to ask! i have ubuntu 9.10 where is xorg.conf ? before versions there were xorg.conf!
[20:57] <toastedmilk> Temmpu1: try hitting ctrl+alt+F1, then running the file
[20:57] <toastedmilk> kad__: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:57] <Ferrenrock> because my college gives me infinite bandwidth but drops my connection for hours on end if I take too much at once
[20:58] <Ferrenrock> sandman: no, what is that?
[20:58] <Bennage> and XP on the netbook, but the USB-creator doesn't work on parallels, and the XP on the netbook isn't accesible
[20:58] <toastedmilk> kad__: although 9.10 might not have it
[20:58] <nozes> hi
[20:58] <sandman> Basically, do a bandwidth test. Determine your max bandwidth. Take downstream/upstream down by 10%, and run wondershaper eth0 downstream upstream
[20:58] <kad__> toastedmilk,  i search no xorg.conf
[20:58] <toastedmilk> kad__: check the 9.10 release notes
[20:58] <Bennage> i accidentally set the active partition to a dead partition.
[20:58] <sandman> Replace downstream and upstream with your actual bandwidths.
[20:58] <ZykoticK9> kad__, it's typically not there by default -- if you're using nvidia - "sudo nvidia-xconfig" will generate one
[20:58] <kad__> toastedmilk,  how i can edit the config then ?
[20:58] <sandman> Oh, you're worried about that...
[20:58] <sandman> Well, yeah. Use wondershaper.
[20:59] <Ferrenrock> sandman: yeah
[20:59] <kad__> ZykoticK9,  no i'm not using nvidia
[20:59] <jp--> hi guys. how can I boot ubuntu livecd using kexec to boot the text installer?
[20:59] <sandman> Figure out how much bandwidth you want to use, and do wondershaper
[20:59] <userone> my huawei e220 usb modem has become very slow on 9.10 (~45kb/s). it used to be consistently 650kb/s. nothing wrong with network or modem as i am still getting this speed on windows. any ideas?
[20:59] <Mrokii> does anybody in here know a site where I can enter unicode and see what sign it represents?
[20:59] <`mOOse`> Bennage, and you don't have a cdrom in the netbook I'm guessing
[20:59] <kad__> ZykoticK9,  using:     [23:48:51] ­lamiss is now busy
[20:59] <kad__>     [23:48:51] ­lamiss doesn't have personal message anymore
[20:59] <kad__>     [23:48:56] ­lamiss is now away
[20:59] <Bennage> nope :P
[20:59] <toastedmilk> Mrokii: google?
[20:59] <sandman> wondershaper is also very useful for keeping a connection from getting congested.
[20:59] <sandman> Can anyone help me with this sound issue?
[20:59] <Ferrenrock> sandman: I'd rather just throttle individual services or IP connections, not everything globally
[20:59] <Ferrenrock> like
[20:59] <kad__> ZykoticK9,  sorry
[20:59] <jp--> I'm currently using these parameters: kexec --load tmp/casper/vmlinuz --initrd=tmp/casper/initrd.gz --command-line="preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.gz nosplash vesa video=vesafb"   but I don't know what are the parameters to boot the text installation
[20:59] <jp--> thanks!
[20:59] <Ferrenrock> give precedence to one service over another
[21:00] <kad__> ZykoticK9,  wrong paste was saying i'm using: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller !
[21:00] <Ferrenrock> kind of like pfsense or zonealarm
[21:00] <`mOOse`> looks like it's time for an external usb dvd/cdrom drive Bennage  :-)
[21:00] <sandman> Ferrenrock: You'd want to give priority to a service? Then you'll probably need to research deeply into packet routing
[21:00] <Bennage> arse :P
[21:00] <Mrokii> toastedmilk:  I have searched google but found nothing suitable upto now.
[21:00] <sandman> Ferrenrock: Which will likely require some time on your part.
[21:00] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: same results, and it is not connected, so I can not pastebinit
[21:00] <Ferrenrock> sandman: pfsense and zonealarm had nice simple GUIs for it in freebsd and windows, respectively
[21:00] <Ferrenrock> I'm just looking for something similar
[21:00] <sandman> You could try that.
[21:00] <ZykoticK9> kad__, "sudo service gdm stop" (this will log you out BTW), then from console run "sudo X -configure" will put an xorg in /root -- copy & rename it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:00] <`mOOse`> if you can boot from a usb you could put hirens on it and fix the boot record with that
[21:00] <sandman> I'm not familiar with those.
[21:01] <Bennage> is there any software out there that i can stick on a USB stick, and boot from it on a PC to alter my MBR?
[21:01] <`mOOse`> or  ultimatecd
[21:01] <kad__> ZykoticK9,  thx =)
[21:01] <`mOOse`> yea plenty of em
[21:01] <erUSUL> Bennage: supergrub disk?
[21:01] <toastedmilk> Temmpu1: sorry, it's over my head then.  start googling your dhclient error message and see what you can turn up
[21:01] <`mOOse`> it's an xp install erUSUL
[21:01] <`mOOse`> on his netbook
[21:01] <Ferrenrock> sandman: pfsense has a list of running services with checks next to each one on which to drop, while zonelaarm has a list of services with the port and IP, and it literally has a little part to throttle it
[21:01] <almark1> Hello I'm trying to install build-essential on Ubuntu Hardy but it tells me  libstdc++6-4.2-dev: Depends: libc6-dev (>= 2.5) but it is not going to be installed
[21:02] <`mOOse`> he made the wrong partition active and he needs to switch it
[21:02] <sambagirl> how does one run a windows 98 app in ubuntu? using virtual box and then installing it like that?
[21:02] <Bennage> except I need to build it on the USB stick from this Mac :/
[21:02] <sandman> I see. Well, I'm not aware of anything like that. But that doesn't mean there isn't anything like that.
[21:02] <Ferrenrock> sandman: ah ok
[21:02] <almark1> what can I do to get it to install?
[21:02] <Mrokii> toastedmilk:  nevermind, found a suitable site.
[21:02] <Ferrenrock> I'll keep looking
[21:02] <`mOOse`> Bennage,  you in the usa?
[21:02] <erUSUL> sambagirl: or trying wine first
[21:02] <sandman> Keep asking in here, hopefully someone will know =) Otherwise, if there's no luck here, I'd recommend a little patience and a forum.
[21:02] <Ferrenrock> thanks
[21:02] <erUSUL> !appdb | sambagirl
[21:02] <Bennage> nope, UK
[21:02] <Ferrenrock> sandman: yeah
[21:02] <Ferrenrock> anyway
[21:02] <Ferrenrock> take it easy
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: you can use wine to run some windows apps
[21:02] <almark1> I tried to apt-get install the dependency but it didn't install either
[21:02] <`mOOse`> you have libraries with computers in them?
[21:02] <Bennage> heh
[21:02] <guntbert> !ot | `mOOse`
[21:03] <sambagirl> thanks
[21:03] <Bennage> i have work puters, but I'm too damn impatient :P
[21:03] <Temppu1> toastedmilk: ok, thanks anyhow :)
[21:03] <sambagirl> play in linux should do it tho i thought
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: virtualbox will require a windows licence to install windows in the virtualised system
[21:03] <sambagirl> '/join #winehq
[21:03] <`mOOse`> welp you can always put *UBUNTU* (glares at guntbert ) on it there ;-)
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: sure thats a wrapper for wine. not all apps work so check the appdb first
[21:04] <guntbert> `mOOse`: this channel is for ubuntu support - not for chatter *about* ubuntu - please remember that
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: if its a win98 app it may run in dosbox
[21:05] <`mOOse`> he's trying to get it installed on a usb stick guntbert ... sorry
[21:05] <almark1> How does one install build-essential if it refuses to install ?
[21:05] <sandman> If I enable the Pre-released updates and Unsupported updates in Software Sources, will APT still be "pinned" to prefer karmic-updates/karmic-security ?
[21:05] <erUSUL> almark1: paste the error msgs
[21:05] <erUSUL> !paste
[21:05] <sambagirl> has anhyone installed their DM2 in linux sucessfully?
[21:05] <almark1> what site erUSUL
[21:06] <almark1> oh sorry lol
[21:06] <LuciusSir> god the gui admin tools for nvidia drivers suck ass
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> almark1: can you give a pastebin of the output of: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:06] <erUSUL> !language | LuciusSir
[21:06] <LuciusSir> sorry
[21:06] <iceroot> LuciusSir: like your language, so please dont such a language
[21:06] <LuciusSir> didn't realize this was apr channel
[21:06] <felixco> !quit
[21:06] <LuciusSir> i'll stop talking like a sailor.. sigh
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> sandman: i believe it just looks at version numbers
[21:07] <userone> the 'green' hsdpa light on my usb no longer comes on. does anyone know how to 'force' it on using ubuntu?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: whats dm2?
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> LuciusSir, what's your difficulty with nvidia-settings?
[21:08] <LuciusSir> ZykoticK9:  nothing anymore, i edited the xorg from scratch and removed all the repo specific packages relating to it lol
[21:08] <almark1> yes
[21:08] <swygue> Hello I'm trying automate a Ubuntu install using pxe and a preseed file, Ubuntu boots and the installer kicks off but fails to detect disk, I get "No root file system is defined". If switch to the shell terminal, and issue fdisk, I don't see any disk. If manually install Ubuntu using the CD-ROM on the same server, the installation detects the disk. Is there something I need to pass as a kernel parameter to get this working. My server is a HP 360. Thanks
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: either way is fine :) i use xorg.conf too
[21:08] <almark1> I forgot how to talk directly to someone, its been a while for me on IRC
[21:08] <almark1> is it _joeblow
[21:08] <ikonia> swygue: does the disk have hardware raid setup ?
[21:09] <LuciusSir> ZykoticK9:  not to mention i dunno if it has a console based backup in case you screw up your xserver lol
[21:09] <erUSUL> !who | almark1
[21:09] <ikonia> almark1: saying the name will hilight them, /msg user will send a mesage to user
[21:09] <ta_> anyone knows if it is possible to import a virtual machine image created with vmware into virtualbox?
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> swygue: check the loaded modules in the working system, see what is related to disks and missing from the none working one
[21:09] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  yeah its the only way lol
[21:09] <ZykoticK9> ta_, it is possible, ask in #vbox
[21:09] <erUSUL> ta_: qemu-img can convert them
[21:09] <almark1> ok thanks :)
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> ta_; ask in #vbox
[21:10] <userone> is there a command to check if a usb modem is receiving 3g/hsdpa?
[21:10] <cmp> please i want to go to compiz room
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: i just find it easier as i have a good file backed up so i can just retore and im away :)
[21:10] <ikonia> cmp: join it then
[21:10] <kusznir> Hi all: I'm trying to create a ubuntu domU on my xen hvm server.  I've been trying with the 9.10 x86_64 dvd iso.  I've got it loading the cd menu (language, etc), but when I select "Install ubuntu", my display hangs (the menu is cleared, a flashing cursor shows up for about 1 sec, then all that remains is the F1... stuff on the bottom of the screen), and the CPU uses 100% of one core until I kill the DomU.  So far, no help from ##xen.  Any suggestion
[21:10] <kusznir> s?
[21:10] <erUSUL> cmp: /j #compiz
[21:10] <swygue> ikonia: yes I am using hardware raid
[21:11] <LuciusSir> ActionParsnip:  i have been finding if you don't know your monitors specific stats it doesn't like you much :P
[21:11] <ikonia> swygue: this is common when pxe booting, I've got a note on this, hang on
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> swygue: then you will need the module modprobed for your card
[21:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's actually a bit of a bug in how pxe works and how the HP DL range presents it's hardware disks
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: gotcha
[21:12] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: you're right though, you have to pass the loadmodule option at boot time
[21:12] <thrashold> How can I download this? https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa/+build/1274579
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> ikonia ;)
[21:12] <swygue> Also, is this the best channel for server related question?
[21:13] <ikonia> swygue: here or #ubuntu-server
[21:13] <erUSUL> thrashold: https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa
[21:15] <syrius> how do you find out what version of ubuntu you are using from command line?
[21:15] <erUSUL> ikonia: HP DL  use a block driver ( ccsis ) instead of a scsi driver ...?
[21:15] <thrashold> erUSUL: Thank you very much :)
[21:15] <ikonia> erUSUL: bang on
[21:15] <erUSUL> !version | syrius
[21:15] <ikonia> erUSUL: but when netbooting it doesn't detect it
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> syrius: lsb_release -c
[21:16] <swygue> ikonia: did you respond, my IRC client crashed?
[21:16] <LuciusSir> oOOoOOoOoOoOo helping others is fun :)
[21:16] <ikonia> swygue: just trying to find my notes on this
[21:16] <LuciusSir> I love linux, its the best shoot in the dark, yet stable, os known to man :)
[21:16] <swygue> ikonia:cool
[21:16] <Temppu1> problem: wireless connected, can ping inside local network, not outside. no errors in dhclient. Ideas?
[21:16] <ikonia> swygue: I've gone through this pain with redhat and kickstart, the process should be the same with ubuntu
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> luciussir: indeed and makes users happy too :)
[21:17] <erUSUL> ta_: what is the error you get from ping ?
[21:17] <ikonia> Temppu1: check your gateway, check your dns servers, check your router is forwarding your packets
[21:18] <Temppu1> ikonia: how to check them? If I connect the wire, everything works. Everything works also now that I am typing on netbook with wireless...
[21:18] <sudobash> yo steve you still having problems?
[21:18] <userone> how can i increase the connection speed of my usb modem? network manager?
[21:19] <swygue> ikonia: not sure what process you are referring, I'm not experiencing this issue with my RHEL servers on the same hardware
[21:19] <ikonia> Temppu1: look at /etc/resolv.conf for your dns server, look at netstat -rn for your default gateway, look at ifconfig -a for your ip address
[21:19] <ikonia> userone: you can't
[21:19] <ikonia> swygue: ooh really, it's working on your RHEL setup
[21:19] <ppl8x> how can i show me all mounted devices in terminal?
[21:19] <ikonia> ppl8x: mount
[21:19] <ppl8x> thx
[21:19] <swygue> ikonia: works fine with RHEL, no special configuration, other that I'm kickstarting
[21:19] <LuciusSir> hey guyes
[21:20] <ikonia> swygue: rhel 5 (I assume you're using 5) must have it sorted then as 3 certainly didn't and I don't think 4 did
[21:20] <ikonia> LuciusSir: yes ?
[21:20] <LuciusSir> I helped steve12 this far, do you know what the deps might be missing in this compiler log ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/372034/
[21:20] <swygue> ikonia:yeah I am using RHEL 5
[21:20] <userone> ikonia: in wvdial there is an entry for baud rate. there must be something to control connection spped? my usb modem has gone from 600kb/s to just 45kb/s on ubuntu! (windows still 600kb/s)
[21:20] <LuciusSir> its not letting him compile the kernel mod
[21:21] <ikonia> LuciusSir: why are you building a kernel module, what's wrong with the nvidia drivers in the ubuntu restricted manager
[21:21] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  in a word, they suck
[21:21] <sponzor> is ext4 ok now? or is it bugy?
[21:21] <almark1> ActionParsnip my problem is more a 64 studio problem, even though its using Hardy I know its not official to this channel, I was able to get some answers from 64 studio, which is usually dead thank you :)
[21:21] <ikonia> LuciusSir: how do you know the one you're building won't be a problem ?
[21:21] <ikonia> swygue: yeah
[21:22] <ikonia> swygue: oops
[21:22] <ikonia> sponzor: google are moving to it, so it seem production ready
[21:22] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  because it was written by the hardware manufacturer, and I'm running my xserver on a custom built mod myself, and having less problems now
[21:22] <sponzor> ok tnx
[21:22] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  correction, having NO problems
[21:23] <sponzor> so the grup works fine on ext4?
[21:23] <ikonia> LuciusSir: there are the nvidia drivers from nvidia in the ubuntu restricted driver tool
[21:23] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  the moment i got rid of the oss kernel mods and edited my own xorg.conf the problems went away
[21:23] <ikonia> LuciusSir: they are wrote by nvidia - not the open nv drivers
[21:23] <ikonia> LuciusSir: they are the same drivers you are trying to build that you say "suck"
[21:24] <erUSUL> ikonia: yes but google hired ext4 creator that gives extra confidence; doesn't it?
[21:24] <Temppu1> ikonia: everything seems identical with this computer and the not-working-one. 2 differenting lines in netstat -rn, one with UGH flag in not-working-computer
[21:24] <nailora> i have a syncmaster p2450h and the 1920x1080 resolution does not work how can i fix it? hightest available resolution is 1680x1050. i am running karmic.
[21:24] <ikonia> erUSUL: that is true
[21:24] <ikonia> Temppu1: what's the two gateway line
[21:24] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  if they are they don't work as well seemingly... what ever happened to the day and age when men were men and wrote their own floppy drivers :P hehehehehe
[21:24] <ikonia> swygue: I can't find the darn module line, but basically you need to pass the cciss module at boot time
[21:24] <cmp> ikonia, how you are ... please guide me how to install Adobe Flash Player , i went to the site but and i tried to install any of them - but i couldnt
[21:25] <titan_ark> power management does not show me my battery, is there a way to check status from terminal? at least i wont damage my notebook and lose data while i am working if i can keep a tab on my battery status
[21:25] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  quote linus tolvod :P
[21:25] <ikonia> !flash | cmp
[21:25] <erUSUL> cmp: sudo aptitude install flahsplugin-nonfree
[21:25] <ikonia> LuciusSir: have you actually looked in the restricted driver manager, or just using the nv modules ?
[21:25] <jcole> ﻿﻿where is the global firefox settings file? i want to set the global homepage
[21:25] <ikonia> jcole: it's per user
[21:26] <LuciusSir> ikonia: after it crashed my x server i just used the nv modules :P
[21:26] <isolat3dsh33p> who's Gary Parker? Why do I have a key named Gary Parker in my Passwords and Encryption Keys?
[21:26] <ikonia> LuciusSir: ok, so why do you think building the same modules from nvidia will work ?
[21:26] <LuciusSir> ikonia: did for me
[21:26] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: probably you collected it via your mail client (a mail gpg key)
[21:26] <Temppu1> ikonia: in broken one there is destination 130.208.so on with gateway 192.168.1.1 genmask is 4 times 255. two times the same line of destination 0 and right gateway with flag ug
[21:26] <ikonia> LuciusSir: what do you mean "did for you" ?
[21:27] <LuciusSir> ikonia: and i've installed and reinstalled multiple builds of linux using different vid cards, and it worked out fine
[21:27] <ikonia> LuciusSir: so really, no proof behind this,
[21:27] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: if you are susbcribed to a mailing list or similar is easy to get a lot of public keys
[21:27] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  the only problem steve is having is it seems he's missing development libs
[21:27]  * Krai sustum 
[21:27] <ikonia> LuciusSir: who is Steve ?
[21:27] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, it's safe?
[21:27] <erUSUL> isolat3dsh33p: yes
[21:27] <LuciusSir> ikonia: steve12 the user i'm helping
[21:27] <ikonia> LuciusSir: you're telling Steve12 to build custom modules ?
[21:28] <Misspunkygirl> Hey x
[21:28] <isolat3dsh33p> erUSUL, ok, I get it. Thanks! ^.~
[21:28] <cmp> erUSUL, still i receive the message which ( i need to download the adobe flash player )
[21:28] <LuciusSir> ikonia: no he's trying to use the sh file from nvidia, which bombed for him, he sent me a log showing the erros gcc spat out
[21:28] <ikonia> LuciusSir: ok - why is he using the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com ?
[21:28] <IP-v6> how can i use -l or --list words with grep ? if i write dircetly, grep is acting they are wrong parameters
[21:28] <Misspunkygirl> Hello?
[21:28] <ikonia> Misspunkygirl: hi
[21:29] <ikonia> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[21:29] <LuciusSir> ikonia: sigh nm i'll find out for him, you're spending more time trying justify an overglorified gui frontend when you could be helping
[21:29] <Misspunkygirl> ikonia :hOW ARE YOU??
[21:29] <ikonia> cmp: install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[21:29] <ikonia> LuciusSir: I'm not, I'm trying to understand why you're telling someone to blindly install things that may cause him pain later down the line
[21:29] <cmp> ikonia, i did it - but still giving me the same Message
[21:29] <ikonia> cmp: have you restarted the browser
[21:29] <Misspunkygirl> G2G
[21:30] <cmp> ikonia, yes
[21:30] <ikonia> cmp: what website are you using to test this
[21:30] <cmp> ikonia , youtube
[21:30] <ikonia> cmp: what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[21:30] <LuciusSir> ikonia: linux is about trial and error, if he doesn't feel a lil pain he'll never learn the tricks to get his system stable
[21:30] <ikonia> LuciusSir: linux is not about trial and error, it's about being able to use a desktop,
[21:31] <ikonia> LuciusSir: it's not up to you to push people to feel pain if they just want a working solution
[21:31] <duffydack> shame it takes trial and error to get it :)
[21:31] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  apparnetly you started using linux after the days when you only had the console
[21:31] <cmp> ikonia, this is my ubuntu     Xfce 4 Desktop Environment
[21:31] <cmp> version 4.6.1 (Xfce 4.6)
[21:31] <duffydack> cmp, are you 64bit?
[21:31] <ikonia> LuciusSir: no, I didn't, that doesn't mean everyone else has to compile everything
[21:32] <ikonia> cmp: what version of ubuntu (show me uname -a please)
[21:32] <cmp> duffydack, i dont know
[21:32] <LuciusSir> ikonia: look he's having the same problem i had 2 days ago, the only way i had to fix it and get the most out of my vid card and server was to edit the xorg.conf manually and use the prop drivers
[21:32] <duffydack> the 64bit flash plugin might help... I`m using it, no issues.. from a ppa
[21:32] <ikonia> LuciusSir: what video card does he have ?
[21:32] <iakovl_> hi, is there anyone here that can help me?
[21:32] <diddy> Could anybody help me with this problem? I am trying to format a USB stick with fat32 so I can use it to watch movies from USB stick on my DVD player: http://pastebin.ca/1790582
[21:32] <DracoWork> Im running virtualbox ose 3.0.8 from ubuntu 9.10, all fully updated.  When I start my VM, if i let it sit for a little while the VMs screen goes black and I cant click inside it to wake it up.  i have to try again every few minutes and eventually it will work
[21:32] <cmp> ikonia, guide me how to know my version without ( about ubuntu ) coz its not showing me any thing
[21:33] <duffman> Hi guys, anyone know anything about wacom tablets (genius brand) possibly working with ubuntu?
[21:33] <ikonia> cmp: use the command "uname -a" as I asked and paste the output in here
[21:33] <LuciusSir> ikonia: nvidia geforce mx440
[21:33] <ikonia> LuciusSir: that's really old isn't it ?
[21:33] <iakovl_> i got myself a MID, running a custom ubuntu ARM edition, the main problem is... no hebrew. how can i add it?
[21:33] <meelu> anyone good with rtorrent?, on #rtorrent i can never find help
[21:33] <cmp> ikonia, Linux cmp 2.6.31-19-generic #56-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 28 01:26:53 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[21:33] <ikonia> cmp: ok, so 9.10 32bit, great
[21:34] <erUSUL> iakovl_: intall the apropiate language-pack-
[21:34] <pjjkziq> cmp, cat /etc/lsb-release?
[21:34] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  in hindsight yes apparently i'm looking now to see what the site says about what deps are needed
[21:34] <DracoWork> mx440 is essentially a GF2mx
[21:34] <eisenheim>  anyone know anything about how can I set-up backtrack 4 final without DVD
[21:34] <DracoWork> aka, 10 yrs old
[21:34] <ikonia> LuciusSir: so the nvidia-legacy package should work
[21:34] <ikonia> LuciusSir: using newer drivers on older cards isn't always the best way to go
[21:34] <cmp> pjjkziq, what is this ?
[21:34] <DracoWork> nvidias current driver certainly doesnt support it
[21:35] <pjjkziq> ubuntu release version that is usually shown with about ubuntu
[21:35] <ikonia> DracoWork: I did wonder that
[21:35] <LuciusSir> ikonia: his problem is he can't get resolution over 640x480...... maybe i should tell him to get his monitor specs first, that can sometimes be the problem
[21:35] <guntbert> !backtrack | eisenheim
[21:35] <iakovl> did that, didn't help "apt-get install -q -y language-pack-he"
[21:35] <ikonia> cmp: can you pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep flash" please
[21:35] <DracoWork> can you try answering my question though? :)
[21:35] <duffman> anyone know anything about wacom tablets in ubuntu?
[21:35] <ikonia> LuciusSir: or use a supported driver....
[21:35] <titan_ark> is there a way to check battery status thro terminal? acpi gives me no result
[21:35] <esther> ola
[21:35] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  well i was think a combination of what we're saying
[21:36] <ehnde> i'm trying to figure out what command to use to give a group permission to access a directory
[21:36] <iakovl> i added fonts with "sudo apt-get install culmus xfonts-efont-unicode xfonts-efont-unicode-ib xfonts-intl-european msttcorefonts" and now i can read hebrew more or less but now write
[21:36] <LuciusSir> ikonia:  use the legacy driver supported by ubuntu as a stepping stone and see if making mods to the xorg.conf with more specific monitor detail will help
[21:36] <ikonia> ehnde: read/write/execute permission ?
[21:36] <ehnde> ikonia: yes
[21:36] <cmp> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/m2b497ef0
[21:36] <ikonia> ehnde: look at chmod - you're interested in the second number of the chmod command
[21:36] <ke1ha> ehnde: chown user:group
[21:37] <ehnde> ikonia: thanks, i'll read the man page
[21:37] <capron> eisenheim, use unetbootin to put the dvd.iso on a usb stick
[21:37] <DracoWork> chmod g+rwx
[21:37] <ikonia> cmp: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree"
[21:37] <DracoWork> or chmod 770
[21:37] <deploy> Can I install the bitstream font on Karmic? Has it been deleted? Im confused.
[21:38] <cmp> ikonia, i did it - and i will do it again for you
[21:38] <ikonia> cmp: that package isn't installed
[21:39] <swygue> ikonia: how would pass the cciss module as kernel boot parameter. Another thing, I did modprobe -l on the problem server from the installation terminal, i did not see any cciss.ko file. shouldn't't i be seeing the module from that output
[21:39] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[21:39] <ikonia> swygue: it's not called cciss.ko - I can't remember the name and I don't have access to a dl to check it
[21:39] <jrtayloriv> I've got a 500gb external USB hard drive, most of which is free space. But I need to keep 2 of the partitions that are currently on it, and wipe out the other two to use for a LiveUSB install. I need to keep the old partitions, because I have to use that drive to back up my old gentoo install. Can I make the LAST two partitions the ones for the liveCD, or does it have to be the first partition that is bootable?
[21:39] <deploy> Or whats the dejavu/Ubuntu equivalent of this in Emacs?  (set-face-font 'default "-bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-*-*")
[21:40] <ikonia> erUSUL: do you remember/know the cciss module name ?
[21:40] <sandman> So I ran aptitude purge pulseaudio, and now I have no sound.
[21:40] <cmp> ikonia, here is the out put    http://pastebin.com/m5eca8d1f
[21:40] <swygue> ikonia: really, let me look around, in the mean time, how would I load the module from the pxe installer
[21:40] <diddy> How do I create a partition on my USB stick at /dev/sdd ? fdisk /dev/sdd is exiting the program
[21:40] <wy_> Hello, I have an issue with my keyboard. The modifier combination is so weird. If I want to presse Alt-Shift-<. If I press Alt first, the Shift, everything is fine. But if I press Shift first, then Alt, I got into trouble because Alt no longer has any effect. Any ideas?
[21:40] <jrtayloriv> That is, is it OK for me to have sdc1 -> backup, sdc2 --> backup, sdc3 --> Ubuntu /boot
[21:40] <ikonia> cmp: you spelt it wrong
[21:40] <ppl8x> i am trying to install gparted over console, but when i write : sudo apt-get install gparted   i am ask vor a disk? why ubuntu does not download the aplication?
[21:41] <ikonia> cmp: flashplugin-nonfree not flahsplugin-nonfree
[21:41] <jrtayloriv> Or do I have to move everything from sdc1/2 to sdc3 and then make the first partition bootable?
[21:42] <erUSUL> ppl8x: becouse you have the cdrom as software source
[21:42] <capron> diddy Are you shure your usb is at sdd
[21:42] <ppl8x> how can i change it erUSUL
[21:42] <epaphus> Does ubuntu 9.10 now provide the update to firefox 3.5 automatically?
[21:42] <erUSUL> ppl8x: System>admin...>softare sources in the first tab disable the cdrom
[21:42] <teage> why cant i highlight and copy with konqueror  like i can with fire fox
[21:42] <teage> ?
[21:42] <ppl8x> k thx
[21:42] <MuffinPimp> Is fingerprint login support?
[21:43] <teage> I looked in the config but cant find anything on the highlight thingy
[21:43] <trijntje> hi all, how can I disable the animations plugin in compiz? When I uncheck the box it just checkes itself again
[21:43] <creature> Hello. Something appears to be muting all of my sound inputs when I login. What would that be, and how do I stop it doing it?
[21:43] <capron> diddy, I think /dev/sdd do not exist
[21:43] <nailora> solved. there was an old xorg.conf lying around
[21:44] <cmp> ikonia, here is the out put    http://pastebin.com/m159c0944
[21:44] <sandman> Can anyone help me safely remove PulseAudio from Ubuntu 9.10? It is causing major problems for my system.
[21:44] <PeskyJ> recently watching videos fullscreen in VLC doesn't disable the screensaver any more where it used to - I'm guessing it's related to a recent update but would this be an Ubuntu issue or something in VLC?
[21:45] <daveycake> hey there, could someone please tell me a decent channel for java help?
[21:45] <sandman> I'd like to try just getting rid of pulse altogether. I ran aptitude purge pulseaudio, rebooted my computer. But now there is no sound of course.
[21:45] <erUSUL> daveycake: ##java ?
[21:45] <daveycake> thank you
[21:45] <ikonia> cmp: ok, so that's the problem, it's not installing
[21:45] <ikonia> cmp: swfdec-mozilla package is complaining
[21:45] <jrtayloriv> Does bootable partition have to be the first partition for a LiveUSB?
[21:46] <jrtayloriv> Or can I have it be the 3rd?
[21:46] <cmp> what do i have to do ikonia.?
[21:46] <teage> trijntje: are you running gnome or kde? I know that in gnome you can install compiz-settings-manager
[21:46] <capron> sandman, hmm  I guess you have to start too config alsa
[21:46] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[21:46] <teage> trijntje:least thats what i used
[21:46] <ikonia> cmp: I'd remove the file /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/iceape-flashplugin for starters, then try to re-install flash-pluginnonfree
[21:46] <trijntje> teage, gnome, that what i'm using. But it just re-cheks the animations box
[21:47] <tommy^m> hi guys, im looking for a php app much like wordpress, but for a picture gallary with voting. is there something like this out there?
[21:47] <ikonia> tommy^m: try in ##php
[21:47] <cmp> ikonia, i want to remove it - so tell me how to remove it
[21:47] <osmosis> do the values returned from  virsh domifstat   have a max value where it resets to 0?
[21:47] <tommy^m> ikonia: yea i tried it, cant join the channel though :/
[21:47] <ikonia> cmp: remove the file
[21:47] <ppl8x> how can i see my swap in terminal, i think i dont have one?!
[21:47] <ikonia> cmp: it's 1 file
[21:47] <teage> trijntje: hmmm, well that is a new one for me.
[21:47] <ikonia> ppl8x: swapon -s
[21:47] <ppl8x> thx
[21:48] <ikonia> tommy^m: you need to register
[21:48] <cmp> yes where i can find it ikonia,?
[21:48] <ikonia> !register | tommy^m
[21:48] <xiong> OK. I have just completed full, duplicate backups onto DVD of my entire filesystem (with a few deliberate and obvious omissions). I'm about to repartition and clean install of 9.10. Obviously, the benefit of this will be lost if I then reinstall everything from DVD.
[21:48] <xiong> OK. I have just completed full, duplicate backups onto DVD of my entire filesystem (with a few deliberate and obvious omissions). I'm about to repartition and clean install of 9.10. Obviously, the benefit of this will be lost if I then reinstall everything from DVD.
[21:48] <ikonia> cmp: the path is in the file name
[21:48] <FloodBot4> xiong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <xiong> oops, sorry
[21:48] <teage> trijntje: Maybe you could try this, apt-get remove --purge compiz
[21:48] <xiong> So, how should I organize my reinstall? And what last-minute info should I stash in USB thumb drive?
[21:48] <ikonia> cmp: /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/iceape-flashplugin
[21:48] <teage> trijntje: and then reinstall it
[21:48] <trijntje> teage, some sort of forcing, but someone found a fix for me
[21:48] <ppl8x> partition	6037496	0	-1     does 0 mean not aktivated?
[21:49] <teage> trijntje: good
[21:49] <trijntje> teage, thanks for your time
[21:49] <teage> Does anyone here use konqueror?
[21:49] <osmosis> help.ubuntu.com is down
[21:49] <teage> trijntje: No prob
[21:50] <xiong> teage, Occasionally. I prefer Nautilus.
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> tommy^m, re: php photo gallery check out Coppermine (might have what you're looking for)
[21:50] <ikonia> osmosis: no it's not
[21:50] <osmosis> ikonia, it was for a second
[21:50] <cmp> ikonia, please iam begging you - guide me a bit easily - like - its located in ..... and how you go for it  ... please please please
[21:50] <teage> xiong: are you able to copy and paste with it? I can not for some reason
[21:50] <ikonia> cmp: read the guide I told you to read yesterday,
[21:50] <steve> what's the strongest cipher for cryptsetup?
[21:50] <ikonia> cmp: it explains the basics, I explained that people can't keep helping you if you refuse to read the basics
[21:50] <Timmarshall> heyyy dudes and ladies iv just seen a video on youtube about getting imacs to talk to you would it be possible to have one on linux??
[21:51] <trijntje> steve AES
[21:51] <erUSUL> !info festival | Timmarshall
[21:51] <steve> trijntje: 256?
[21:51] <capron> steve AES is fast and strong
[21:52] <dima> join #ubuntu-ro
[21:52] <steve> should I use -c aes-cbc-essiv:sha25 then?
[21:52] <creature> When I login to my system, what gets run automatically?
[21:52] <cmp> ikonia, why you enjoy that... i cant understand this book. i understand by moves not reading ...please help for last time and dont help me any more - next time i will ask some one else
[21:52] <xiong> teage, Dunno specifically. In general, remember there are several ways to perform the standard edit functions. There may be an Edit menu; there may be equivalent shortcuts; and you almost always get edit functions in the contextual menu with right-click.
[21:52] <magn3ts> So, no one bothers to write about converting a VM to physical disk. Anyone have any idea how difficult or easy this is to do wtih a parallels VM?
[21:52] <talntid> Hi all. Is there an easy way to return just the first word of something that is piped in?
[21:53] <ikonia> cmp: no, you need to read the help page I gave you, if you can't know how to remove a file, you can't be helped properly, you need to understand the basics, I told you this before
[21:53] <talntid> example: ps aux | showonlyfirstword
[21:53] <trijntje> steve, yeah, but i'm sure there are lots of guides online that know better than me
[21:53] <xiong> So, any thoughts about restoring after clean install?
[21:53] <teage> xiong: thanx, i have checked the edit functions, maybe i missed something.
[21:53] <cmp> Ikonia, I DONT KNOW WHERE IS THE FIILE LOCATED ----- I TRIED TO REACH IT BUT I DIDNT KNOW THE WAY TO REACH IT ......
[21:54] <ikonia> cmp: the path to the file is in the post I made
[21:54] <ikonia> cmp: please don't use caps
[21:54] <ikonia> cmp: this would make sense to you if you read the page I gave you on how to manage your file system
[21:54] <Timmarshall> what does it mean on kmouth : command for speaking texts
[21:54] <capron> steve use cryptsetup -c aes-xts-plain -y -s 512   -<  This is a 256 AES cryption
[21:54] <xiong> cmp, Please relax; not all issues are solvable in short time -- ikonia, I detect signs of support burnout.
[21:54] <ikonia> xiong: not at all
[21:55] <xiong> cmp, Would you like to try to explain your issue to me, starting from the beginning?
[21:55] <presshere> hi
[21:55] <Timmarshall> hi
[21:55] <Timmarshall> presshere do you have kmouth???
[21:55] <mixandgo> is there a way to ignore a dying hard drive ? like not see any warnings and not mount it ?
[21:55] <cmp> yes xiong , i would like to coz i got really depressed by this person who enjoy to stress the others
[21:55] <presshere> i dont know i dont use it
[21:56] <Timmarshall> ok
[21:56] <talntid> mixandgo, unplug it? :]
[21:56] <xiong> cmp, No need to get personal. Just tell me what's up.
[21:56] <cmp> my problem is i need to install adobe flash player and i cant xiong
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> mixandgo, remove the mount from fstab
[21:56] <ikonia> cmp: don't call people names
[21:56] <mixandgo> talntid: I can't it's a netbook and I don't have access to it
[21:56] <mixandgo> ZykoticK9: there is no mount, I see the warning tho
[21:56] <LuciusSir> *sings to ikonia* if you want my body and you think i'm sexy come on baby let me know :P
[21:56] <LuciusSir> haha
[21:56] <iceroot> is an ubuntu-version get out of support, will the repos be killed? so i cant install anymore software for that ubuntu-release with the normal repos from /etc/apt/sources.list? or is it just security fixes which are stopped?
[21:56] <xiong> cmp, That is usually a stress-free operation. What doesn't work?
[21:56]  * LuciusSir is manic today :P
[21:56] <iceroot> LuciusSir: stop that here
[21:56] <cmp> dont talk to me again here Ikonia, please
[21:56] <ikonia> cmp: I spent a lot of time with you last night explaining how to resolve you're issues, and gave you a guide to read on the basics of linux/ubuntu as it's hard to helpsomeone if they don't know the basics, today you're back with the same sort of questions
[21:56] <VCoolio> creature: everything in /etc/xdg/autostart unless you disabled it, and what you added to startup apps (stored in ~/.config/autostart)
[21:57] <cmp> i dont want you to help even if you will help , ikonia,
[21:57] <ikonia> cmp: it's important you understand at least the basics
[21:57] <LuciusSir> ceroot: sorry :( it was just some harmless fun :(
[21:57] <creature> VCoolio: Thanks for the info, I'll check that out.
[21:57] <ikonia> LuciusSir: please stop messing around
[21:57] <LuciusSir> ikonia: yes stalin :(
[21:57] <cmp> ikonia,. you really press on me ...
[21:57] <iceroot> ikonia: not bad, i would use /ban long time before
[21:57] <LjL> iceroot: after EOL, things are moved to http://oldreleases.ubuntu.com
[21:58] <creature> VCoolio: Is there a configuration tool for this?
[21:58] <ikonia> cmp: I don't, I'm trying to help you, others have been unable to help you as you don't know the basics, it would really help others to help you if you just learnt the basics of how to use the desktop
[21:58] <iceroot> LjL: ah thx, good to know, didnt know that adrress until now
[21:58] <cmp> xiong, here is the out put after installing    http://pastebin.com/m159c0944
[21:58] <xiong> cmp, Attempting to resolve personal issues takes time away from technical issues. What have you tried to resolve your issue with Flash and what happened?
[21:58] <VCoolio> creature: system > prefs > startup apps (or 'session' if you use older than 9.10 karmic)
[21:59] <presshere> i have some kind of sound issue, if the volume is 100%, the sound is muted automatically(this is not notyfied in system), after some unknow period of time, the soud is back, or after reboot, i am trying to understand that is because of driver(or other software related) or it is a hardware maflunction...
[21:59] <ikonia> xiong: package is corrupted and would benifit from being removed from the file system
[21:59] <vinse> so i brought a laptop from home into work, it's 9.04, i managed to get it on to our network by doing "ifconifg eth0 inet 192.168...." so it can now see other machines, but i cannot get out to the internet
[21:59] <capron> Are you guys using chrome ?
[21:59] <presshere> yes
[21:59] <LjL> !ot
[22:00] <xiong> ikonia, swfec-mozilla
[22:00] <creature> VCoolio: Is /etc/xdg something accessed by Gnome? I'm using Fluxbux, but I get the impression that things are being run on startup anyway. Maybe by the login manager – gdm, or whatever the modern equivalent is.
[22:00] <presshere> capron, chrome for linux
[22:00] <ikonia> xiong: bang on
[22:00] <diddy> Does anybody know how to change the label of a fat32 partition?
[22:00] <iceroot> LjL: 404 at that adrress
[22:00] <ikonia> diddy: e2lable as I recall
[22:00] <diddy> ikonia, e2label (8)          - Change the label on an ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem
[22:00] <Timmarshall> does anyone know about kmouth????
[22:00] <gandhijee> hey how do i get the kernel sources for the kernel version i am running on?
[22:00] <LjL> iceroot: sorry, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[22:00] <marnold> cmp, try doing sudo aptitude purge swfdec* && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:00] <diddy> ikonia, I need to change the label for fat32
[22:01] <PeskyJ> Whenever I connect to remote desktop on my other ubuntu machine, I just see the desktop background but no menus or windows, anyone know the cause?
[22:01] <xiong> cmp, Wait one. Just had a minor personal disaster.
[22:01] <iceroot> LjL: very nice, thx
[22:01] <ruggerit> Can anyone help with synaptics drivers?
[22:01] <VCoolio> creature: yes, possibly gnome-settings-daemon; copy the launcher from /etc/xdg to ~/.config/autostart and open in an editor, then change the line that says something like autostart in gnome = true to false
[22:01] <userone> just tried my usb modem on windows, 600kbs. in ubuntu its 45kbs. anyone any ideas how i can fix this?
[22:01] <arand> diddy: diddy You could also use gparted.
[22:01] <presshere> ruggerit, what is the problem ?
[22:01] <ZykoticK9> diddy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[22:02] <ruggerit> my two finger scrolling doesn't work
[22:02] <ruggerit> i think my driver isn't loading properly
[22:02] <xiong> cmp, Back. So, you see in your pastebin, lines 32..33? It suggests that the package swdec-mozilla is corrupt (the file is screwed up in some way). Understand?
[22:03] <nvme> is there any way to recover a forgotten root password ?
[22:03] <Valeri> Guten abend
[22:03] <cmp> xiong, how to fix it ?
[22:03] <LuciusSir> someone pointed me to launchpad earlier, i found the project page for vlc player, but i don't know how to find the repo link, it has downloadable deb files, but i don't see any link to a repo for auto update...
[22:03] <diddy> ZykoticK9, arand thx
[22:03] <presshere> Valeri dobri' vecher
[22:03] <ikonia> diddy: sorry, missed you saying fat
[22:03] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[22:03] <marnold> cmp, i just told you
[22:03] <VCoolio> creature: either "X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=false" or "OnlyShowIn=GNOME;" , the latter line configures de in which to autostart, not convinced if that works very well
[22:03] <ikonia> nvme: there is no root password
[22:03] <ikonia> nvme: use sudo
[22:04] <nvme> ikonia, thats what i meant (the main user password is the one i am missing)
[22:04] <presshere> ruggerit, did it ever work on ubuntu?
[22:04] <xiong> cmp, Trash it. If you throw it out and attempt to reinstall flashplugin-nonfree, then (because swfdec-mozilla is a dependency), it will be reinstalled.
[22:04] <ruggerit> presshere, no
[22:04] <ruggerit> presshere, it's a new install
[22:04] <ruggerit> presshere, but it works in windows7
[22:04] <VCoolio> creature: read about desktop entries here http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-0.9.4.html
[22:04] <cmp> marnold, here is the output of what you said     http://pastebin.com/m2af409e2
[22:05] <talntid> i want to loop through a file, and run a command on every line.....
[22:05] <talntid> can someone show me how? :)
[22:05] <cmp> xiong, i dont know how to find it so i can trash it
[22:05] <creature> VCoolio: I'm a little confused. I think that something is being run at login in my current setup, which does not start gnome. So if it's Gnome's responsibility to run the xdg apps, then that's not what I'm looking for.
[22:05] <userone> ok, lets start here...anyone know why there should even be a difference in usb connection speed between windows and ubuntu? any guesses so i can try *something*
[22:05] <ikonia> talntid: #bash may help
[22:05] <IP-v6> nvme, if you can use sudo, try sudo passwd root
[22:05] <jpds> talntid: With which language?
[22:05] <cmp> xiong, guide me where is t located
[22:05] <ikonia> userone: poor usb device support, poor kernel support for the device
[22:05] <talntid> jpds, doesn't matter to me. it's a one-time thing
[22:05] <IP-v6> nvme, when sudo ask password use your user password
[22:06] <nvme> IP-v6, i cant get to a shell, there is only one user and i dont have the password for it
[22:06] <VCoolio> creature: what exactly is your issue? something is starting that shouldn't? what are the symptoms
[22:06] <talntid> i need to remove 514 files, but don't want to remove them manually. they are listed in a text file now.
[22:06] <shane2peru> attention nvidia users, I got a looking for a 'better' driver for my 9500 GT nvidia card.  I installed them through Hardware management thing, is there  a better way?  All the documentation looks outdated, what is recommended?
[22:06] <xiong> cmp, I don't know where it is, particularly on your machine. There are several ways to find something. I like typing 'locate foo' on the command line.
[22:06] <presshere> ruggerit, there is only a standard driver in ubuntu for mouse devices, probably it will not work, what kind of mouse are u using?
[22:06] <IP-v6> upss
[22:06] <MuffinPimp> Is there a way to use your fingerprint to login??
[22:06] <ikonia> cmp: it's at /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/iceape-flashplugin as I've told you 5 times
[22:06] <talntid> MuffinPimp, google "fprint"
[22:06] <xiong> talntid, Sounds like a job for a script.
[22:06] <jpds> talntid: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372077/
[22:06] <MuffinPimp> k
[22:06] <creature> VCoolio: Whenever I login, my alsa channels are all 0ed and muted. I want to stop that happening.
[22:06] <userone> ikonia: but i used to get 600kbs on ubuntu, even peaked at 900kbs! i must have broken something. i just want a clue so i can try and fix it.
[22:06] <ruggerit> presshere, synClient -V: 1.1.2
[22:06] <ruggerit> presshere, it's a synaptic touchpad
[22:07] <cmp> ok i can do type as you do - just tell me what to type and where to type xiong
[22:07] <sandman> I ran aptitude purge pulseaudio, and now everything works perfectly.
[22:07] <VCoolio> creature: that only happens in fluxbox?
[22:07] <talntid> jpds, is that bash? :)
[22:07] <ruggerit> presshere, is there a way to update the driver version?
[22:07] <jpds> talntid: Python. \o/
[22:07] <sandman> Only thing missing is a volume control @ the top right of the screen
[22:07] <ikonia> cmp: https://help.ubuntu.com - that will tell you how to use the file browser
[22:07] <xiong> cmp, That was my suggestion; 'locate'. You don't need any fancy parameters; just locate what you want.
[22:07] <creature> VCoolio: I haven't tried in other window managers, but I'm not changing window managers to fix this. :)
[22:08] <cmp> ikonia,,,, WHERE IS THAT /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/iceape-flashplugin ...i cant see where is this ( / var ) is ... your way of helping is really nervusing me
[22:08] <talntid> jpds, and to show the contents of the line?
[22:08] <presshere> ruggerit, try this http://cscott.net/Projects/Synaptics/
[22:08] <talntid> for the command to run
[22:08] <teage> xiong, what is the "foo" in locate?
[22:08] <shane2peru> !nvidia
[22:08] <ikonia> cmp: that IS the location, the reason you can't see that is you've no idea how to navigate the file system, which is why I'm telling you to read the page I gave you to understand the basics
[22:08] <jpds> talntid: 'print line' in the for: loop.
[22:08] <cmp> xiong, there is no how for me to know how to locate ... i dont know where is search or something like that
[22:09] <talntid> jpds, can i PM you real quick? :)
[22:09] <marnold> cmp, try sudo aptitude purge swfdec-mozilla && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[22:09] <PeskyJ> hrm, I just found this bug, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/428884 - but it's 5 months old - I wonder why it's only jsut affected me recently
[22:09] <ikonia> cmp: if this was a 1 off situation, I would understand but you are constantly having basic problems and refuse to read https://help.ubuntu.com to understand the basics
[22:09] <jpds> talntid: OK.
[22:09] <VCoolio> creature: no that's not what I was aiming at; anyway try this: http://tinyurl.com/ybqog7k
[22:09] <PeskyJ> been doing regular updates, though did recently do a dist upgrade to 9.10 - probably what caused it :/
[22:10] <creature> VCoolio: The thing is, it's definitely at login, not at boot. I logged in, my channels were muted so I unmuted them, then X crashed, and when I logged in again they were muted again.
[22:10] <creature> And I don't think an X crash should have changed runlevels.
[22:10] <teage> cmp, you want to delete the firefox right? every thing that has to do with firefox right? so you would type something like " locate firefox " in the terminal
[22:10] <VCoolio> creature: right, probably
[22:11] <duffman> can anyone help with getting a genius wacom tablet to work
[22:11] <creature> duffman: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom ?
[22:11] <duffman> yeah
[22:11] <duffman> I think the problem I'm having is that its not a wacom brand one.
[22:12] <teage> cmp, then you would see that firefox is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/blah blah blah , so you would then type "gtksudo nautilus" in the terminal and it will open a window with root
[22:12] <duffman> and when I use the cmd wacomcpl it doesn't see it
[22:12] <VCoolio> creature: it's a common issue, not sure on what to advice though; for me the link worked; ask again here or search the web, you'll find plenty options I'm afraid
[22:12] <cmp> marnold, here is the output of what you told me to do ...      http://pastebin.com/m273a1da8
[22:12] <creature> VCoolio: Thanks for the pointers, and trying to help. I appreciate it.
[22:13] <manueljordison> hi guys!!! I need help. I recently bought a toshiba laptop and the wifi does not work. it is a realtek card
[22:13] <manueljordison> ??
[22:13] <KindOne> manueljordison; is the wifi button on ?
[22:13] <duffman> any ideas?
[22:13] <marnold>  cmp then you should be good
[22:13] <teage> cmp, then you would navigate to that folder first looking for var then dpkg then you get the point,  then delete it.
[22:13] <userone> ok..does anyone know how to reset a usb modem. I have disconnected and reconnected usaing network manager several times. i have tried 'eject'
[22:14] <manueljordison> nop
[22:14] <marnold> teage, that won't help
[22:14] <manueljordison> the card is not suported i thik
[22:14] <presshere> manueljordinson, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[22:14] <marnold> the swfdec packages were already in his install queue
[22:14] <teage> marnold: well couldnt cmp just then type sudo apt-get remove --purge?
[22:14] <duffman> not sure ill check them out
[22:14] <barf> When installing Ubuntu, which localization? C or English or my own Language?
[22:15] <Akkernight> why when I open GRUB at boot, some kernels aren't shown, specifically the ones I installed myself with .deb packages?
[22:15] <marnold> he needed to get em out
[22:15] <barf> I really do not need any localization as I only use the command line
[22:15] <marnold> teage, would have had the same effect
[22:15] <teage> hmmm
[22:15] <userone> is there a command line instruction to generate the output of my usb modem. it contains some files, which i can read but what about the firmware?
[22:15] <ruggerit> presshere, still no luck. my synclient is throwing this error
[22:16] <ruggerit> Can't detect hardware properties.
[22:16] <ruggerit>     This is normal if you are running linux kernel 2.6.
[22:16] <ruggerit>     Check the kernel log for touchpad hardware information.
[22:16] <FloodBot4> ruggerit: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <marnold> apt-get and aptiutude both call into libapt-pkg
[22:16] <teage> cmp, what exactly is the problem you are having?
[22:16] <cmp> marnold, now how can i install adobe flash player ?
[22:16] <mikeyYo> Hiya
[22:17] <Diverdude> how do i remove a folder and all its content including subfolders, and delete it permanently?
[22:17] <xangua> !flash | cmp
[22:17] <ikonia> cmp: the pacakge "flashplugin-nonfree" is what you need
[22:17] <krunk-|work> I have a user who cannot user pub/priv keys to log into my server. after a bit of digging, I saw that she's using an old version of ssh: "SH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.7p1 Debian-8ubuntu1.2"
[22:17] <hellz_bellz1> my keymap is broken
[22:17] <manueljordison> guys anyone can help me to repair my realtek wifi card
[22:17] <retikula> Diverdude: rm -r folder_name
[22:17] <krunk-|work> that likely has the ssh keys vulnerability
[22:17] <hellz_bellz1> the left side
[22:17] <ikonia> krunk-|work: shouldn't matter
[22:17] <marnold> cmp first lets check if its installed already the paste you gave me would seen to indicate that
[22:17] <manueljordison> I have tried 8.04 8.10 9.04 9.10 but nothing happens
[22:17] <mikeyYo> I've just started using irssi and I've got a few themes and scripts installed. I have seen screenshots of irssi with a who list on the right hand side. Is this an external script?
[22:18] <krunk-|work> ikonia: sure it does, if it's the vulnerable version she won't be allowed to use keys :)
[22:18] <hellz_bellz1> i mean the right
[22:18] <ikonia> krunk-|work: what's important is that your server is setup to use compatible keys
[22:18] <diddy> Which file system does a DVD player require fat32 with LBA or without?
[22:18] <jp--> hi guys. I'm trying to boot an installation using kexec, but I get a kernel panic just after it says "loading root filesystem"... any ideas?
[22:18] <marnold> cmp,  so do sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep flashplugin
[22:18] <ikonia> diddy: dvd players ?
[22:18] <cmp> ok marnold, iam waiting for your guiding
[22:18] <diddy> ikonia, yes
[22:18] <ikonia> diddy: what dvd players ?
[22:18] <hellz_bellz1> it only works when i push the Fn key
[22:18] <krunk-|work> ikonia: no, there was a critical vulnerability in that version and all futuer and patched versions reject it out of hand. . . lemme find a reference
[22:18] <marnold> and paste output
[22:18] <Diverdude> retikula, and force it delete everything without asking me for permission all the time?
[22:18] <diddy> ikonia, the ones the sell at electronics stores?
[22:19] <mikeyYo> CrashOverride`: From the movie, Hackers? haha
[22:19] <Rush3d> Why do people just sit here and talk, is it like your job?
[22:19] <Diverdude> ahh
[22:19] <ikonia> diddy: how is that anything to do with #ubuntu ?
[22:19] <Diverdude> run as sudo
[22:19] <lekefly> How do i turn off the DHCP server in ubuntu?
[22:19] <ikonia> Rush3d: it's a support channel
[22:19] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[22:19] <ikonia> lekefly: you can remove the dhcp server, or disable it with update-rc.d
[22:19] <CrashOverride`> !offtopic | mikeyYo
[22:19] <diddy> ikonia, I am using Ubuntu and want to format my USB stick unter Ubuntu so I can use it with my DVD player.
[22:19] <hellz_bellz1> my keymap is broken, the right  side, it only works when i push the Fn key
[22:19] <hellz_bellz1> my keymap is broken, the right  side, it only works when i push the Fn key
[22:19] <ikonia> diddy: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:19] <manueljordison> hi guys!! I have a toshiba realtek wifi card not working in my ubuntu anyone cAN HELP ME??
[22:19] <Rush3d> Ikonia: yes but how do you support making a living sitting in an irc chat (no offense, just asking)
[22:19] <ikonia> diddy: dvd players normally buffer in ram
[22:19] <diddy> ikonia, huh?
[22:19] <cmp> marnold, http://pastebin.com/m38ab985a
[22:19] <krunk-|work> anyway, I'm when she attempts to upgrade it says there are none, what version of ubuntu is this referring to? 8?
[22:20] <ikonia> Rush3d: it's not about making a living, it's a support channel that people donate free time to
[22:20] <lekefly> ikonia: could you tell me how to do this via terminal?:)
[22:20] <mikeyYo> ubottu: Sorry, my mistake. Thanks :)
[22:20] <marnold> cmp, flas player is installed
[22:20] <hellz_bellz1> please
[22:20] <computer_> what is the command line for ubuntu appearance?
[22:20] <pierre_le> pǝsɹǝʌǝɹ sı ƃuıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ 'ƃnq ɐ ǝʌɐɥ ı ˙ʎǝɥ oɥ
[22:20] <Rush3d> Ikonia: OOh. ok.
[22:20] <ikonia> lekefly: dpkg -l | grep -i dhcp - find the server package then apt-get remove $package name
[22:20] <marnold> somtimes you need to logout/back in
[22:21] <teage> I dont believe anyone gets paid to be in the support channel.
[22:21] <hellz_bellz1> funny
[22:21] <marnold> for it to work
[22:21] <presshere> ruggerit, did u installed package "Toshset" from Synatptic?
[22:21] <computer_> pǝsɹǝʌǝɹ sı ƃuıɥʇʎɹǝʌǝ 'ƃnq ɐ ǝʌɐɥ ı ˙ʎǝɥ" lol
[22:21] <ikonia> !ru | computer_
[22:21] <hellz_bellz1> my keymap is broken, the right  side, it only works when i push the Fn key
[22:21] <ruggerit> presshere, it says it's the latest version
[22:22] <Jooder492> how come i cant install java?
[22:22] <computer_> what is the command line for ubuntu appearance?
[22:22] <userone> ok, just used network tools. i can ping ubuntu.com at 213ms. so how can i make this faster?
[22:22] <trism> computer_: gnome-appearance-properties ?
[22:22] <lekefly> ikonia: Theres only dhcp3-client and chcp3-common ...
[22:22] <cmp> oh god = marnold, its still not working
[22:23] <ikonia> lekefly: so you're not running a dhcp server
[22:23] <lekefly> Hehe.. doh
[22:23] <lekefly> Hmm
[22:23] <hellz_bellz1> my keymap is broken, the right  side, it only works when i push the Fn key
[22:23] <lekefly> Do you know how i can make the computer connect to eth0 ikonia.. it wont auto connect..
[22:23] <s8n> :>
[22:23] <aaron> !gdm
[22:23] <ikonia> lekefly: connect to what
[22:24] <lekefly> Internett..
[22:24] <aaron> hey how can i disable the autologin ?
[22:24] <marnold> cmp,  that is not helpful what are you trying to do that requires flash and what is the error message
[22:24] <aaron> at start uo
[22:24] <aaron> *up
[22:24] <VCoolio> aaron: system > admin > login screen or something similar
[22:24] <lekefly> ikonia: You know when you have desktop you can just click the connect icon to the top right..
[22:24] <aaron> VCoolio: can i just disable it by terminal?
[22:24] <ikonia> lekefly: do you have a dhcp server on the network ?
[22:24] <lekefly> but i need it in terminal
[22:25] <ikonia> lekefly: why can't you use the gui ?
[22:25] <lekefly> ikonia: Yeah.. my router.. no mouse.. :/
[22:25] <ruggerit> how do you update synclient?
[22:25] <cmp> still when i open youtube it asks for adobe flash player . marnold.
[22:25] <semanticpc> okay this must be a dumb question but still  ..... I started a process (not as a background process) and now I want to logoff .... is there a way to keep the processes running even if i logoff ??
[22:25] <VCoolio> aaron: of course, but I don't know the command then, unless it's a setting in gconf
[22:25] <ikonia> lekefly: look at /etc/network/interfaces file
[22:25] <marnold> did you restart firefox
[22:26] <manueljordison_> realtek wifi card not working in my ubuntu any suggestion?
[22:26] <ikonia> marnold: $10 says flashplugin-nonfree is not installed in dpkg -l | grep flash
[22:26] <vinse> semanticpc: google nohup
[22:26] <marnold> ikonia, i just checked that
[22:26] <teage> manueljordison_, is that a linksys card?
[22:26] <ikonia> marnold: is it there ?
[22:26] <semanticpc> vinse: i should have started the processing using nohup rite ??
[22:26] <marnold> yes it is
[22:27] <Diverdude> If i employ this command:  sudo tar -zxvf /tmp/matlabr2008b.tgz  where will the packet be extracted to?
[22:27] <marnold> aptitude says so dpkg says so its there
[22:27] <vinse> i plugged my pc into my work network, i can see other machines but i cant get to the internet -- i cant ping google by name or ip -- any help is appreciated
[22:27] <vinse> semanticpc: correct
[22:27] <nibbler> vinse: check if you got a default gateway (route -n) and how far you get (tracepath www.google.com)
[22:28] <pjotr> hi this works on command line but I can't figure out how to get it work on /etc/fstab mount -t smbfs '//server/home' /mnt/mountpoint -o rw,username=adusername/adgroup,workgroup=adgroup,uid=linuxusername
[22:28] <manueljordison_> teage, it is the one integrated to my new toshiba realtek rtl810
[22:28] <vinse> nibbler: i do not have any gateway listed when i do sudo route
[22:28] <VCoolio> aaron: sudo nano /etc/gdm/custom.conf (if you're on karmic)
[22:28] <pjjkziq> manueljordison_, what does the lspci line say for it?
[22:28] <semanticpc> vinse:  I am looking to make a foreground process run as a background process without stopping it
[22:28] <marnold> it may not have been installed correctly which is what i'm trying to check now
[22:28] <vinse> semanticpc: one you already started? w/o stopping and restarting it?
[22:28] <nibbler> vinse: so your companys DHCP does not assign a gateway to you?  can be.... no gateway, no inet
[22:29] <semanticpc> vinse: yes
[22:29] <Diverdude> If i employ this command:  sudo tar -zxvf /tmp/matlabr2008b.tgz  where will the packet be extracted to?
[22:29] <vinse> semantic: neato, let me know if you way to do that
[22:29] <nibbler> semanticpc: ctrl-z and then bg
[22:29] <vinse> really?
[22:29] <nibbler> Diverdude: to your local directory
[22:29] <steffan> Diverdude: where do you want it to be extracted?
[22:29] <lekefly> ikonia i cant just do something like connect eth0 ? :P
[22:29] <vinse> nibbler: i'm sure they'd be willing to assign me one, i just didn't get it
[22:29] <ikonia> lekefly: no
[22:29] <nibbler> semanticpc: between the ctrl-z and the bg it it stopped, and then continued by the bg
[22:29] <VCoolio> aaron: for AutomaticLogin=  fill in your username, en of course 'true' for AutomaticLoginEnable
[22:30] <ikonia> lekefly: if you modify that file though, it will auto connect so you don't have to do anything
[22:30] <teage> manueljordison_, google rtl810 , I have a linksys rt2870 that i had to blacklist another driver to get it to work
[22:30] <nibbler> vinse: do you use dhcp for configuration, or did you assign an ip yourself?
[22:30] <cmp> marnold, are you still going to help me ?
[22:30] <manueljordison_> Ethernet controler  Realtek Seminconductor RTL8101E
[22:30] <Diverdude> steffan, i would like it extract to /appl
[22:30] <manueljordison_> teage
[22:30] <ke1ha> semanticpc: run your app as a service.
[22:30] <lekefly> ikonia: sure.. but if there is a command just to make it connect i can VNC into it :P
[22:30] <ikonia> lekefly: no
[22:30] <vinse> nibbler: i had to explicitly set my ip in order to ping anything.  i couldn't even see other machines until i did "sudo ifconifg eth0 inet 192..."
[22:30] <ikonia> lekefly: you can do dh-client eth0
[22:30] <lekefly> Guess i have to give up:(
[22:30] <ikonia> lekefly: sudo dhclient eth0
[22:30] <teage> manueljordison_, You may have to blacklist another current driver to get yours to work, do you have internet on yer machine right now?
[22:30] <vinse> btw, i'm a total moron when it comes to networking if it's not obvious ;)
[22:30] <marnold> cmp restart your computer and then see if it works
[22:30] <pjjkziq> manueljordison_, no clue on that, it looks like a new version I'm not used to
[22:30] <semanticpc> nibbler:  ctrl-z and bg worked thanx
[22:31] <nibbler> vinse: ah ok, then you need to set your router the like, just check the other boxes for their router (and dns)
[22:31] <manueljordison_> teage, i don't have internet (wifi)
[22:32] <marnold>  Jcink what brings you here
[22:32] <vinse> nibbler: router = gateway?
[22:32] <nibbler> semanticpc: fg would bring it back to the foreground, disown could completely detach it so that you could exit the shell withouterror. screen is a more pwerfull way to backgroud jobs, but needs to be executed before you start the job
[22:32] <Jooder492> how do you get linux drivers?
[22:32] <nibbler> vinse: yep
[22:32] <ikonia> Jooder492: for what
[22:32] <Gateway`> vinse, sort of yes :)
[22:32] <lekefly> ikonia: woho! thanks that worked..
[22:32] <vinse> nibbler: and how do i set those explicitly? also with ifconfig?
[22:32] <ehnde> screen is worth taking the time to learn how to use
[22:32] <Jooder492> my audio
[22:32] <teage> manueljordison_, if you can plug into a jack to get the internet you can fix the problem, the only way i know is to install ndiswrapper and blacklist the driver that is blocking you.
[22:32] <nibbler> vinse: first try : sudo dhclient eth0 - maybe there is a dhcp server running.
[22:33] <VCoolio> ehnde: use byobu and you don't need to learn as much
[22:33] <nibbler> vinse: dns is set by "nameserver 1.2.3.4" in /etc/resolv.conf, router by "route add default gw 1.1.1.3"
[22:33] <vinse> nibbler: i tried that before i set my ip, it didnt work
[22:33] <ehnde> VCoolio: i'll check it out, never heard of that one
[22:33] <vinse> i will try again though
[22:33] <marnold> is launchpad slow for anyone else
[22:33] <semanticpc> nibbler:  now that I have executed bg i can exit the shell window right ??
[22:33] <nibbler> vinse: both can be controlled via /etc/network/interfaces for a more permanent setup
[22:33] <manueljordison_> TEAGE, what do  you mean by BLACKLIST??
[22:33] <teage> manueljordison_, I think its rt2800 that is the coprite
[22:33] <VCoolio> ehnde: it is screen, but proconfigured with easy keybindings and stuff
[22:34] <nibbler> semanticpc: yep, but if you disown it before the shell will exit directly and not "hang" (which does not affect the backgrouded process)
[22:34] <manueljordison_> teage, i see
[22:34] <cmp> still not working marnold,
[22:34] <nibbler> vinse: well, dont now how you tried before
[22:34] <teage> manueljordison_ You have a driver that is loading and you need not that driver, blacklist it and then your other driver will work.
[22:34] <nibbler> vinse: just pick up the info at another box
[22:34] <marnold> well ... um maybe try a reinstall
[22:34] <Rasmussen> 7server irc.freenode.net
[22:34] <uffiole> hi, newbie question, how do i get same list(?) from a file as from plz_list = %w(13359 67059 90459 56068 69115)
[22:35] <manueljordison_> teage
[22:35] <uffiole> i put all those zip codes in the file each in its own line
[22:35] <manueljordison_> teage, how can i do that??
[22:35] <marnold> sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[22:35] <aaron>   
[22:35] <aaron>    
[22:35] <nibbler> uffiole: what do you have, and what do you want?
[22:35] <FloodBot4> aaron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <uffiole> it tried so much, myfile.readlines()  IO.foreach ...
[22:36] <marnold> cmp, i'm off to dinner and other stuff
[22:36] <teage> manueljordison_, hang on i will get you the command, been a while since i did this
[22:36] <marnold> I'll be back ~9:30
[22:37] <marnold> if that doesn't work
[22:37] <marnold> theres still a few tricks
[22:37] <uffiole> nibbler, i have a file with values in lines and want to loop through them
[22:38] <nibbler> uffiole: for i in $(cat file); do echo $i; done
[22:38] <userone> ok..when i do right click on network manager and click connection information, it lists 'speed' as unknown. how can i get network manager to register the speed of the usb modem?
[22:38] <uffiole> nibbler, sorry wrong channel, it should be ruby ... :)
[22:39] <nibbler> uffiole: wrong channel. but cant be much harder :-)
[22:39] <temp3222> hi people.  having an issue, put ubuntu 9.10 on my bro's netbook and mouse doesn't work.  neither the touchpad or the usb wireless mouse.  both will move pointer but neither will click
[22:39] <teage> manueljordison_ ,I cant remember the command, so open nautilus with this command, gtknautilus , when you do that i can guid you to the config file
[22:39] <ke1ha> it will be very similar in Ruby
[22:40] <ubuntu> I've now set up a server on ubuntu (LAMP) is also FTP installed now? how can I see my hosted files nicely in a list?
[22:40] <temp3222> in fact when the pointer is moved out of a window, the pointer icon doesn't change at all... no atter where i point it
[22:40] <vinse> nibbler: thank you! setting everything explicitly did the trick
[22:40] <teage> manueljordison_: opps, i mean gtksudo nautilus
[22:40] <nibbler> vinse: welcome
[22:40] <teage> manueljordison, sorry bout that
[22:40] <matrixfox> welcome
[22:41] <pjotr> teage, it's gksudo
[22:41] <semanticpc> nibbler: i am using tcsh so it doesn't have disown ...... any alternative on tcsh ??
[22:41] <teage> pjotr, thats it, im using kde, havent used gnome in some time now.
[22:42] <userone> lsusb!!!!!!! thats what i wanted to know!!!
[22:42] <macman_> question .. i want to share a file between 2 ubuntu laptops .. how do i do this ?
[22:42] <DavidCoq> Hi
[22:42] <nibbler> semanticpc: no diea then. but disowning is not so important, just closes the shell cleaner
[22:42] <nibbler> macman_: either use rsync, or trust in ubuntu one
[22:43] <macman_> nibbler: there is no sharing ?
[22:43] <semanticpc> nibbler:  okay ... closing the shell **fingers-crossed**
[22:43] <barf> In the package dovecot-postix where is the default mail storage?
[22:43] <nibbler> macman_: there is dozends of sharing options, use samba, nfs, afs, sshfs
[22:43] <hoffix> good evening
[22:43] <teage> manueljordison_ are you on gnome or kde desktop, if its gnome it is indeed gksudo nautilus, if its kde it is kdesudo konqueror
[22:43] <Crystufer> I just installed kubuntu 9.1 on my second partition and I can't boot it cuz there's no menu.lst. Ideas?
[22:45] <forestwalker> Does somebody know why I have on my root 'list-c' and 'list-l' files? they are created each time when Ubuntu boots.
[22:46] <nibbler> forestwalker: what is in them?
[22:46] <forestwalker> they are empty
[22:46] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know if this is supported in ubuntu? Integrated 10/1000 Ethernet	?
[22:47] <perlsyntax> :)
[22:47] <nibbler> perlsyntax: depends on the chip
[22:47] <nibbler> forestwalker: grep for these names in /etc/init.d
[22:47] <nibbler> Crystufer: the install did not report any problems?
[22:47] <perlsyntax> Well it don't say what on dell web site.
[22:48] <Jooder492> anyone know how you get drivers in linux for my sound card?
[22:48] <perlsyntax> chips
[22:48] <jazz_> anyone recomend how much space to use for / and /home on a 40gig hdd?
[22:48] <nibbler> Jooder492: check the alsa project homepage. what soundhardware do you have, normally it should "just work"?
[22:49] <defrysk> jazz_, 8 gigs for / will do usually
[22:49] <userone> what does uhci_hcd and address 2 mean?
[22:49] <nibbler> perlsyntax: if you have the box at hand, run lspci
[22:49] <forestwalker> sudo grep list-c * - nothing found
[22:49] <ke1ha> forestwalker: find -L / | grep List.c
[22:49] <VCoolio> jazz_: depends on how much you want to install and if you're going to try mulpiple de's; 6 Gb for / should get you going
[22:49] <perlsyntax> I don't hve the desktop yet.
[22:49] <perlsyntax> have
[22:49] <nibbler> jazz_: if you are new to linux, use it all for /
[22:49] <pjotr> "mount -t smbfs '//server/home' /mnt/mountpoint -o rw,username=adusername/adgroup,workgroup=adgroup,uid=linuxusername" works from the command line, ad being the domain, what to put on /etc/fstab?
[22:49] <VCoolio> nibbler: why no separate /home for furure easy upgrading?
[22:49] <defrysk> nibbler, if he would be new hew would not ask about /home
[22:50] <nibbler> VCoolio: upgrading is always easy
[22:50] <perlsyntax> nibbler,I hope it supported on dell ubuntu 9.04 dvd i burn.
[22:50] <ke1ha> or whatever files your looking for, may need to use sudo.
[22:50] <userone> dmesg says: usb 6-1: reset full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 2. what do i do and will this increase the speed of my usb modem?
[22:50] <defrysk> seperate /home rules
[22:50] <nibbler> defrysk: he asks for how much space he needs for his /home ... noone can answer this, and an experienced use would know that :)
[22:50] <VCoolio> nibbler: well sure but with only / you always need to backup (which is ok anyway of course, but still)
[22:50] <Crystufer> nibbler: No it didn't. I was not able to finish entirely as I cannot boot after the cd got spit out.
[22:50] <jazz_> im new  been using since 9.10 came out- id like to try other types of linux but im worried about all the other things i do have now
[22:51] <Jooder492> nibbler did you get my message?
[22:51] <nibbler> VCoolio: no matter what you do partition-wise, you *always* need to backup!
[22:51] <nibbler> Jooder492: no PM please
[22:51] <Jooder492> i did pm.. i thought...
[22:51] <Jooder492>  /msg <nick> <message> right?
[22:52] <nibbler> Jooder492: yep, but i dont read them, ask in channel please
[22:52] <defrysk> Jooder492, its rude in irc to private unasked
[22:52] <Jooder492> oh.  well my audio jacks are all diffrent then ussual.  the mic is is audio out and the headphone jack does nothing
[22:52] <nibbler> Crystufer: well, i'd boot into the live-cd, chroot into the linux on-disk system and try to fix things manually (grub-install etc)
[22:52] <Jooder492> oh i didnt mean anything by it :S
[22:53] <nibbler> !grub  | Crystufer
[22:53] <darolu> jazz what other things?
[22:54] <jazz_> darolu,  cd players and dvd rippers and stuff
[22:54] <ke1ha> jazz_: install them in VM then if it breaks, oh well, you've not hosed your base install.
[22:54] <Kudos> anyone know of a way to get i3 530 gpu working with 9.10?
[22:55] <jazz_> i do have a few extra playres to find which one i like yet
[22:55] <manueljordison> guys anyone can help me.. realtek wifi problem in toshiba with ubuntu
[22:55] <Crystufer> nibbler: I was thinking of doing this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/372095/
[22:55] <NewfierRich> quick question. If I rename a .iso will that change the hash?
[22:55] <powergoal> manueljordison: what kinda poblems?
[22:55] <jazz_> ke1ha whats vm?
[22:55] <manueljordison> powergoal, the wifi card is not working at all.
[22:56] <darolu> jazz I'd just install them back, most distros have similar package managers than Ubuntu's
[22:56] <ke1ha> a Virtual application like VMware or similar.
[22:56] <powergoal> manueljordison: what kind of card is it?  Realtek...
[22:57] <darolu> jazz I think kelha is suggesting you to install whatever distro you want to try on a virtual machine
[22:57] <jazz_> right now at the mopment  i have tooo much space for root and not enought space for  home. br right back in a sec
[22:57] <manueljordison> realtek semiconductor RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express
[22:57] <manueljordison> powergoal, RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express
[22:58] <jazz_> sorry im back
[22:58] <forestwalker> can you guys please a run ls -l / and look for 'list-c' an d'list-l' files? do you have them? i got them and they have root:root ownership and they are empty
[22:59] <powergoal> manueljordison: do you know if you have the kernel module loaded?
[22:59] <rww> NewfierRich: no
[22:59] <ke1ha> forestwalker: just put sudo in form of itL sudo ls -l /
[23:00] <manueljordison> powergoal... nop I am just a ubuntu user
[23:00] <darolu> forestwalker no I don't have them, I think those are created by a graphics viewer application though
[23:00] <ke1ha> lets try that again: sudo ls -l / | grep list-c
[23:01] <forestwalker> ke1ha: i did it. they are empty files
[23:02] <ke1ha> smae here, nadda on the list-c or list-l files.
[23:02] <mindos> is there anybody playing quake 3 on ubuntu?
[23:02] <forestwalker> ke1ha: i'm still running this. i have a lot of files on my HD. so far nothing found usefull
[23:02] <nibbler> Crystufer: did it work?
[23:02] <powergoal> manueljordison: looking to see which module you need... then we can check. :)
[23:02] <Crystufer> nibbler: Not sure yet. I haven't tried it. I need the name of the right kernel.
[23:02] <ke1ha> manueljordison: if you can't get the native install to configure you NIC, consider ndiswrapper
[23:03] <jazz_> darolu i missed your statement , i got it now...
[23:03] <matrixfox> wrong chat for games u want wines channel
[23:03] <nibbler> Crystufer: well, it should be on /boot
[23:03] <jellow_> can i use cat to attach to seperate avi files.
[23:03] <manueljordison> kelha, I did it but nothing happens
[23:03] <darolu> Is there quake3 for linux?
[23:03] <teage> what is the text editor in gnome?
[23:03] <matrixfox> check wine HQ
[23:03] <mrpink57> teage: gedit
[23:03] <matrixfox> i think q3 is under there
[23:03] <Crystufer> nibbler: Oh yeah, you're right. I should be able to copy paste that bit once I'm in the live environment.
[23:04] <pjotr> teage, gedit
[23:04] <Crystufer> nibbler: Rest of it looks reasonable though with it installed to sda2, right?
[23:04] <ke1ha> manualjordon: what does it say when you ndiswrapper -l
[23:05] <nibbler> Crystufer: well, mainly its about the location and name of kernel and initrd
[23:05] <nibbler> Crystufer: if you cant boot the kernel, you can use the "e" button in grub to edit the lines
[23:05] <h2o0> Hi
[23:05] <h2o0> I've installed ubuntu 9.10 64-bit, but I've no sound, how can I fix it?
[23:06] <ke1ha> compile alsa manually or use OSS
[23:06] <h2o0> how?
[23:06] <johnm> could anyone tell me if something has changed re: users being able to setuid root recently? in that, I can't :)
[23:06] <zebastian> what is the best ubuntu app for streaming online tv
[23:06] <Crystufer> nibbler: kk. thanks.
[23:06] <barf> I did a command line install of ubuntu 9 alternate and apt-get installed deovecot-postfix
[23:07] <ke1ha> http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[23:07] <barf> $ df -h
[23:07] <barf> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[23:07] <barf>  /dev/sda1             288G  896M  273G   1% /
[23:07] <zebastian> totem seems to work to slowly
[23:07] <barf> 896MB
[23:07] <teage> manueljordison_ , gksudo nautilus /etc/modprobe.d , then open file called blacklist.config and look for blacklist eth and type under it blacklist rt2800usb then restart yer computer and see if that works.
[23:07] <powergoal> manueljordison: OK.  so here is what I have found... You need to have the r8101 module in your kernel in order to use that model of wireless card.  But it doesn't seem to be built in, so you might need to rebuild your kernel on a custom build.
[23:08] <Zer> Anyone know why libvirt would never properly start up VMs on system startup?
[23:08] <h2o0> kelha: should I install alsa-driver only
[23:08] <h2o0> ?
[23:08] <Zer> It's in /etc/init.d/, so that's not the problem
[23:09] <Zer> and the daemon starts up, but it doesn't *start* anything
[23:09] <manueljordison> powergoal, it hink you are talking about module-assistant
[23:11] <ke1ha> manueljordison: which realtek is it agian ?
[23:11] <ke1ha> NVM I see it.,
[23:11] <delemi> Anyone know the terminal command to launch crossover8
[23:11] <manueljordison> kelha,RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express
[23:11] <delemi> I installed it but it does not show up
[23:11] <Some_Person> I know that only the main and restricted repositories are officially supported. But who actually provides this support?
[23:12] <yaaar> anybody round here using landscape? i just heard about it and went to the website....sure looks slick. but am i reading it right that you have to pay $150/year/node even for the standalone product that you install on your own equipment? and if so, what's a node? is that just the machine i'm installing landscape on, or is it all the machines i'm controlling with landscape?
[23:12] <delemi> node = PC
[23:13] <delemi> Have not used Landscape yet
[23:13] <yaaar> delemi: uh, both possibilities i suggested above would qualify as a "PC"
[23:13] <kermit> is it possible to unmount nfs when the server isnt reachable?
[23:13] <delemi> It would be single PC
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> kermit, i think umount has a -f for force but check man if that fails
[23:13] <kermit> ZykoticK9: that never works
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> kermit, it has for me
[23:14] <jpds> yaaar: Depends which version of Landscape you get.
[23:14] <titan_ark> is there a way to access MS Word 07 format documents on OOo?
[23:14] <ke1ha> There's several Bug reports on that Card / Model. Im looking for the work around.
[23:14] <mrpink57> titan_ark: it should already be active, should just need to open the doc.
[23:15] <Akkernight> why when I open GRUB at boot, some kernels aren't shown, specifically the ones I installed myself with .deb packages?
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> darolu, did you get an answer about Quake 3?  Yes - points release and use the Windows CD to copy a bunch of files over, you probably won't get sound though -- perhaps you could try QuakeLive, basically Quake 3 in a browser
[23:15] <titan_ark> mrpink57, no i cant. i get an error when i try to open the document and it says it will do some recovery but it doesnt do anything
[23:16] <mrpink57> titan_ark: try to reinstall Open Office then, the lastest version 3.0 is suppose to open docx files
[23:16] <darolu> ZykoticK9: Thanks, I'm already reading about it.
[23:16] <sasa_> ciao a tutti
[23:16] <darolu> Ciao sasa
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> darolu, i was trying to get ioquake3 to work the other day (which does have sound), but i failed
[23:16] <titan_ark> mrpink57, i have ver 3.1.1
[23:16] <dernen> i created a script for when my computer resumes, in /etc/acpi/resume.d/99-resume-lirc.sh, but for some reason ubuntu is not running the script upon resume, anyone know why?
[23:16] <titan_ark> whats the command for the reinstall?
[23:16] <sponzor> what user to use to login to phpmyadmin?
[23:17] <mrpink57> titan_ark: then try reinstalling, I googled it and it says it has support as of late.
[23:17] <ke1ha> manuelJordison: here a solved case:  http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8581510
[23:17] <titan_ark> okay.
[23:17] <titan_ark> mrpink57, would you know the package name?
[23:18] <jpds> yaaar: Best thing to do is to ask at https://forms.canonical.com/sales/
[23:19] <mrpink57> titan_ark: you can just do sudo apt-get remvoe then start typing open office and hit tab
[23:19] <darolu> ZykoticK9: I'll give it a try this weekend, hopefully it'll work fine.
[23:20] <mrpink57> titan_ark: its openoffice.org
[23:20] <titan_ark> mrpink57, Package openoffice.org is not installed, so not removed
[23:20] <titan_ark> whoa!
[23:20] <mrpink57> titan_ark: check in synaptic then
[23:20] <mrpink57> titan_ark: in synaptic you may even find some extension to install for docx
[23:21] <FYI> hello... is there anyway to fake a video input stream... I can do this with pulseaudio
[23:21] <FYI> cept it's an audio input stream :p
[23:21] <Chiphead2XS> sponzor, with the user you created when installing mysql-server
[23:22] <sponzor> hmm it wont login.. i will google it :)
[23:22] <titan_ark> mrpink57, it shows me openoffice in the installed and not installed also! thats weird
[23:22] <titan_ark> mrpink57, is there a way i can pastebin th eresults to you?
[23:23] <mrpink57> titan_ark: before you uninstall see if there is an extension to install for docx.
[23:23] <Gaming4JC> Hey all, I just installed the official ATI 10.1 for my Radeon HD 4870 X2, but I still don't have any graphic acceleration and it won't enable it in gnome-appearance-properties despite me having catalyst... any ideas? :/
[23:23] <Chiphead2XS> sponzor, user is root usually (if it is your machine)
[23:23] <mrpink57> titan_ark: no, it would need to come from a command line, you could send a screenshot but dont know what good it would do.
[23:23] <sn00kie> how does the ubuntu live cd autodetect the video card and load the appropriate modules?
[23:23] <Timmarshall> anyone know where to get linux game ports from???
[23:24] <mrpink57> sn00kie: my guess is a udev type feature were it seeks out what you have and goes from there.
[23:25] <Timmarshall> anyone know about linux game ports??
[23:25] <erUSUL> !games | Timmarshall
[23:25] <ke1ha> sn00kie: I believe its a genric vga driver, then lists the restricted driver at install.
[23:25] <titan_ark> mrpink57, no i cant see any extension
[23:26] <Gaming4JC> So umm, anyone know about ATI support on Ubuntu? I followed the official ATI installation instructions to a tee, no luck. :|
[23:26] <titan_ark> i mean extension for docx format
[23:26] <mrpink57> titan_ark: then I'd say either uninstall and reinstall or google about it a bit.
[23:26] <Jordan_U> ke1ha, No, vesa is only used if there is no open source driver available for the graphics card available, which is rare.
[23:26] <sn00kie> mrpink57: Maybe you can help.  I installed Ubuntu, and used remastersys to create a backup which acts as a livecd.  Only problem is, when I load that livecd into a different computer, the video drivers load fine, but they don't autodetect on any new system.  The live cd detects and graphics effects work, but my install doesn't
[23:26] <ke1ha> Ahh,. ok tnx
[23:26] <sn00kie> ke1ha: maybe you'd know to
[23:27] <Jordan_U> sn00kie, Do you use proprietary drivers?
[23:27] <sn00kie> nope
[23:27] <titan_ark> mrpink57, yes, if only reinstall would work, when i say remove it says there is nothing to remove :P
[23:27] <Mirko[CHIP]> hi
[23:27] <mrpink57> titan_ark: just remove it from in synaptic it should have a filled box showing it's installed
[23:27] <mrpink57> titan_ark: just mark for uninstall
[23:27] <Jordan_U> sn00kie, Does the resulting install ( or the liveCD image ) have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf? ( it should *not* )
[23:28] <titan_ark> mrpink57, yes, shall do that
[23:28] <titan_ark> thank you
[23:28] <sn00kie> Jordan_U: nope, no xorg.conf
[23:29] <Gaming4JC> oddly, fglrxinfo shows "X Error of failed request:  BadRequest" in terminal. :s
[23:29] <sn00kie> could it be using a different kernel driver than the one on the CD?
[23:30] <sn00kie> kernel rather
[23:31] <Jordan_U> sn00kie, Could you try booting into recovery mode on the installed system and look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[23:31] <jhon> !list
[23:32] <stabu> how can i change permission on a ntfs external hd?
[23:33] <darolu> stabu: you can do it via fstab file
[23:33] <darolu> or with chmod
[23:33] <sn00kie> Jordan_U: installed system?  You mean the one I'm generating the livecd on with remastersys?
[23:34] <Gaming4JC> Ahh, is only ATI driver 9.12 supported on Ubuntu? I notice everyone is saying that version rather than 10.1...
[23:34] <[-jesus-]> Hi, I just put Ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop & need help setting up the wireless.. I know what my NIC is & was directed to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266620
[23:34] <[-jesus-]> Idk anything about Ubuntu though so yeah I'm pretty lost :(
[23:34] <ke1ha> stabu: or you cna use the ntfs-config-tools:  udo apt-get install ntfs-config
[23:34] <Jordan_U> sn00kie, The one that you say does not boot, which if I understand correctly ( I may not ) is the one resulting from installing from the remastersys CD.
[23:34] <stabu> darolu im trying to setup jinzora but cant import the media cause the permssions, i think
[23:35] <titan_ark> argah power management!!!
[23:35] <sn00kie> Jordan_U:  Everything boots, and I can get into Gnome, however, it doesn't load anything other than the generic video card driver where the livecd actually insmods the correct driver and enables the graphical effects.
[23:36] <marcosRz> Anyone can help me with Evolution, http://i.imgur.com/nPI4k.jpg
[23:36] <marcosRz> ?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> sn00kie, Ok, can you just pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from there then?
[23:36] <sn00kie> sure, I'll need a second.
[23:37] <Zer> *Sigh* Does anyone know of any particular dependencies for libvirtd? If I run it manually after system startup, all VMs autostart. However, they refuse to autostart at bootup.
[23:39] <_Akiyukiii> :-)
[23:39] <delemi> Anyone help with crossover 8?
[23:40] <mikeliss> Hi, I just got emerald running, but it's not showing any themes. I remember there being a theme pack of some kind, but I can't find it.
[23:40] <Gaming4JC> delemi: Try #crossover?
[23:40] <capron> some more have problem black screen after sleep using ati driver
[23:40] <erUSUL> !emerald
[23:40] <Gaming4JC> ATI Driver is totally unuseable here. :P
[23:41] <Gaming4JC> oddly it worked before
[23:41] <Gaming4JC> now it's not
[23:41] <vinse> OH! sudo su - !!
[23:41] <mikeliss> Anybody know what I'm talking about?
[23:41] <vinse> got i wish i'd known that two days ago
[23:41] <delemi> Gaming4JC I was there and received good instruction I am just having problems implementing a command they gave me
[23:41] <capron> I use emerald and compize what shud I use ?
[23:42] <blakkheim> vinse: while this is true, someone here will get mad and say "no dont use root" blahblah
[23:42] <Gaming4JC> guess I'll go back to 9.12... the ATI 10.1 isn't working ... :s
[23:42] <delemi> sh install-crossover-pro-8.0.0.sh
[23:42] <b636bc7ca> is it normal for 'du' to not work in an encrypted homedir?
[23:42] <blakkheim> b636bc7ca: works in mine
[23:42] <b636bc7ca> it gives me 0 for everything
[23:43] <delemi> sh: Can't open install-crossover-pro-8.0.0.0.sh
[23:43] <b636bc7ca> but the data is all there
[23:43] <Gaming4JC> delemi: run that in a terminal? You may need to run "sudo sh" rather than just "sh" to install as root.
[23:43] <b636bc7ca> Does anyone know of a document that will walk me through how to migrate AWAY from encrypted homedirs?
[23:43] <mikeliss> capron: I've never seen that blurb about emerald before. There is a theme pack somewhere though....
[23:43] <Viper1432> mike  try this site for more info on emerald:  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/03/ubuntu-install-themes-emerald-compiz.html
[23:43] <Gaming4JC> delemi: oh... hmm you sure the name is correct for the sh file?
[23:43] <b636bc7ca> I found some that tell you how to do go the other direction, but I'm having trouble mentally translating it in reverse
[23:43] <Gaming4JC> delemi: If it cannot find the file it isn't named correctly or doesn't exist
[23:44] <delemi> I tried $ su -
[23:44] <delemi> # sh install-crossover-pro-8.0.0.sh
[23:44] <mikeliss> Viper1432: Yeah, I saw that page, but it's not very helpful really.
[23:44] <Gaming4JC> hmm
[23:44] <Jordan_U> delemi, Do not run that script as root
[23:44] <delemi> # ls
[23:44] <delemi> Crossover.Linux.Pro.8-DJM.md5  crossover-pro_8.0.0-1_i386.deb
[23:44] <delemi> Crossover.Linux.Pro.8-DJM.nfo  crossover-pro-8.0.0-1.i386.rpm
[23:44] <delemi> Crossover.Linux.Pro.8-DJM.sfv  ia32-crossover-pro_8.0.0-1_amd64.deb
[23:44] <delemi> Crossover.Linux.Pro.8-DJM.sha  install-crossover-pro-8.0.0.sh
[23:44] <FloodBot4> delemi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <delemi> # sh install-crossover-pro-8.0.0.0.sh
[23:45] <Mario_> hi
[23:45] <Mario_> i have a problem
[23:45] <lanzelloth> hi i can't install java plugin for firefox
[23:45] <Viper1432> mikeliss,  if you don't have any themes installed for emerald, there a tons over at gnome-look.
[23:45] <Jordan_U> delemi, You added an extra ".0"
[23:45] <Mario_> i am not able to paint my ubuntu
[23:45] <Mario_> i would want to paint my ubuntu
[23:45] <Jordan_U> !tab | delemi
[23:45] <titan_ark> can i use the remote desktop manager tool as for vnc also? i am able to ssh but after that unable to start a vnc session to log in to the port i connect to
[23:46] <Gaming4JC> !enter | Mario_
[23:46] <lanzelloth> augie@blue:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[23:46] <lanzelloth> Reading package lists... Done
[23:46] <lanzelloth> Building dependency tree
[23:46] <lanzelloth> Reading state information... Done
[23:46] <lanzelloth> sun-java6-bin is already the newest version.
[23:46] <FloodBot4> lanzelloth: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <lanzelloth> augie@blue:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[23:46] <Mario_> i would want to paint my ubuntu, any idea?
[23:47] <daftykins> Mario_: paint?
[23:47] <ZykoticK9> Mario_, "paint my ubuntu" what does that mean?
[23:47] <Mario_> yes
[23:47] <Mario_> change wallpaper
[23:47] <Gaming4JC> Mario_: Paint Ubuntu? You mean create themes?... ahh
[23:47] <Gaming4JC> Mario_: Right click >> Change Desktop Background?
[23:47] <Gaming4JC> on the desktop.
[23:47] <Mario_> oh.. thank you
[23:48] <ke1ha> Jordan_U, what was the final fix for the graphics issue? Im interested in that one.
[23:48] <jack5463> My flash stopped working just now. Now i can't watch videos on youtube. ubuntu 9.10 on usb. How can I repair it?
[23:48] <Mario_> i will try to paint my ububtu with your suggest
[23:48] <delemi> ubottu, Jordan_U - Thanks i missed that. I was just an issue of bad typing. Thanks ALL.
[23:48] <jazz_> are there any tutorials on how to theme yourown self?
[23:48] <Mario_> yes it is working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:48] <marcosRz> Anyone can help me with Evolution, http://i.imgur.com/nPI4k.jpg ?
[23:49] <Gaming4JC> jack5463: Reinstall flash from Synaptic? You may also want to try swfdec. :P
[23:49] <Mario_> thank you, now i am able to paint my ubuntu
[23:49] <Mario_> :)
[23:49] <Gaming4JC> Mario_: Glad it's working for you. :)
[23:49] <tempUser> I am looking for a tool to check files if there are parts missing (eg caused by defect sectors) I can not compare them by md5.
[23:49] <pfifo> Hi everyone
[23:49] <Gaming4JC> !greet pfifo
[23:49] <Mario_> oh a lot of people in this chan
[23:49] <Mario_> so much nice
[23:50] <jazz_> as much as there are cool themes in gnome look some things change i didnt want changed  or what i wanted didnt or isnt cool
[23:50] <pfifo> Gaming4JC, I thought it was !hi
[23:50] <Gaming4JC> pfifo: lol sorry I couldn't remember it. :P
[23:50] <Jordan_U> ke1ha, sn00kie just left. Last thing he said was that he would pastebin his /var/log/Xorg.0.log, maybe he is rebooting to do that?
[23:51] <jazz_> i fount a theme in synaptic i downloaded i like but it was yellow id rather  a diferent color but the wasp theme was decent
[23:51] <Gaming4JC> Hmm... so anyone mind helping me install ATI drivers on Ubuntu? Make sure it's 10.1 proprietary...
[23:51] <magn3ts> What is a good FileSystem to store data between mac/windows/linux on?
[23:51] <Aquina> Launchpad - Answers No 99985 - Any ideas?
[23:51] <ke1ha> rrr.. that's odd that LiveCD would work properly, then install incorrectly.
[23:51] <delemi> magn3ts, I have been using NTFS
[23:52] <kermit> my sound in firefox plays stuck in a loop, why?
[23:52] <delemi> magn3ts, The down fall is file permissions
[23:52] <DreaDy_HK> hi brothers i have a problem whit the document kdedrc i dont have change permisions of this document
[23:52] <Jordan_U> magn3ts, While not what I would call good, fat32 is the only filesystem that all three can write to by default ( Mac OS can read ntfs by default and ntfs-3g can be installed to add write support, Ubuntu can read and write to ntfs by default )
[23:52] <magn3ts> delemi, yeah, I think its unavoidable though. Any other choices leaves at least on other OS out
[23:53] <lanzelloth> so whenever i try to install sun-java6-plugin i get an error: broken packages
[23:53] <pfifo> ok, I have a weird question, just want to make sure its ok, on occasion I come in here and answer questions from new users, once in a great while, the solution to their problem is a file, would anyone get upset if I put files such as these on rapidshare and made an attempt at getting the 10k downloads required for a free rs account?
[23:53] <delemi> magn3ts, dual boot PC or MAC
[23:53] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, yeah, ntfs-3g is standard for me+mac anyway so I odn't mind that. It's mostly the file permissions
[23:53] <blakkheim> pfifo: that isn't for here
[23:54] <delemi> magn3ts, I mounted a NTFS directory that is in windows (my documents) in /media
[23:54] <clone1018> Any way to login to ubuntu without a keyboard?
[23:55] <blakkheim> clone1018: mind powers
[23:55] <clone1018> :D I wish
[23:55] <capron> clone1018,  Auto loggin shud work
[23:55] <clone1018> ya but
[23:55] <clone1018> I need to login now :P
[23:55] <pfifo> blakkheim, ok fair enough, plenty of other places that dont mind at all. Ill stick with the d-see-c I would normally use for this
[23:56] <tempUser> clone1018: ask someone to login via ssh and let him/her set your passwd to no passwd
[23:56] <magn3ts> hm, how does ubuntu play with hfs+?
[23:56] <Gaming4JC> clone1018: A quick google search reveals they have a virtual keyboard in the making, that presents a bit of a problem if you don't have a keyboard and you cannot login to enable autologin w/o it. Soo... tempUser's method would work... lol
[23:57] <clone1018> Dont you need an ssh server
[23:57] <capron> tempUser,  I guess he still needs to press return even if no password is used or ?
[23:57] <Gaming4JC> clone1018: Hmm yes I believe that has to be installed first? o_O bummer...
[23:57] <clone1018> lol
[23:58] <delemi> clone1018, I believe there is a program called indic
[23:58] <clone1018> still
[23:58] <joe-evans> clone1018: sorry i am comming in at the tail end of the conv' here - but is your mouse working
[23:58] <pfifo> clone1018, maybe, just add a keyboard to your system?
[23:58] <clone1018> I would have to login to the computer
[23:58] <clone1018> Yes the mouse works
[23:58] <joe-evans> then you can click to enter the tempuser yes?
[23:58] <clone1018> yes
[23:59] <Kyle_S> Hello.
[23:59] <Gaming4JC> !hi Kyle_S
[23:59] <Gaming4JC> !hi | Kyle_S
[23:59] <Kyle_S> Hopefully quick question about pulse audio.
[23:59] <lanzelloth> i keep getting this error when trying to isntall java plugin: "Depends: sun-java6-bin (=6-13-1) but 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 is to be installed"
[23:59] <Kyle_S> How do you adjust the mic input settings?
[23:59] <magn3ts> wait, this looks like hfsplus adds full read/write for hfs+ to ubuntu, does anyone know how well it supports permissions, etc? considering that mac os x is a unix based os