[02:14] <jjesse> test
[06:30] <Riddell> jussio1: maco wonders why she can't connect to quassel core
[07:14] <freeflying> Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/ailurus
[07:14] <freeflying> Riddell: do you have some mins to review it? thx
[09:25] <ghostcube> o/
[10:59] <Quintasan> Lex79: lol, metapackage failed at lpia build :O
[11:46] <Sput> Riddell: I think jussi01 moves/moved servers
[11:46] <jussi01> Sput: who what?
 jussio1: maco wonders why she can't connect to quassel core
[11:46] <Sput> didn't you ask me something about that yesterday?
[11:47] <jussi01> oh, its on ubottu.com currently
[11:47] <jussi01> please apologise, I was tired and forgot to let her know about this temporary change
[11:50] <jussi01> should be back up on jussi01.com in the near future (read: tonight)
[13:39] <NCommander> Riddell: not sure if you saw, I uploaded kebindings last night to ninjas
[13:39] <NCommander> and unbroke the world :-)
[13:40] <jussi01> NCommander: the world is unbroke? o.O
[13:41] <NCommander> jussi01: well KDE anyway
[13:42] <jussi01> NCommander: oh, ok then...  :D
[14:38] <markey> hey guys, any ETA for KDE SC 4.4 backports? :)
[14:38] <markey> would love to upgrade
[14:38] <markey> (Karmic)
[14:39] <EagleScreen> markey: it will be soon, be patient
[14:39] <markey> great :)
[14:57] <Lure> any progress with virtuoso 6.1 for lucid?
[15:57] <apachelogger> markey: it is not even released yet?! :P
[15:58] <markey> apachelogger:
[15:59] <markey> http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.4/
[15:59] <markey> :>
[16:03] <apachelogger> well clearly not published to the frontpage, so I suppose it is still not live?
[16:05] <tsimpson> apachelogger: it on the front page when I look
[16:05] <babalu> apachelogger: it is in the front page: www.kde.org; it's that the packages for kubuntu aren't ready yet
[16:05] <apachelogger> oh my oh my
[16:06] <apachelogger> Nightrose: new kde.org got a problem with notifying the browser of new content
[16:06] <apachelogger> or for some reason my chromium refused to reload properly
[17:39] <shtylman_> its been quiet today... a little too quiet...
[19:05] <daskreech> hi guys
[19:05] <daskreech> Is there any special steps for someone using Virtuoso to upgrade to KDE 4.4 final?
[19:07] <Riddell> daskreech: make sure vituosoconverter is installed
[19:07] <daskreech> THat's not done as a depends?
[19:07] <Riddell> it's a recommends so it should be installed without asking
[19:08] <Riddell> virtuosoconverter
[19:08] <daskreech> hm ok
[19:08] <daskreech> Will that be in the release notes?
[19:10] <Riddell> can do
[19:26] <JontheEchidna> so.... anybody uploading stuff from bzr yet?
[19:29] <JontheEchidna> I guess we're waiting on Riddell and his script?
[19:29] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: there were some last minute tarball updates, I do not knwo, if this blocks anything
[19:30] <JontheEchidna> probably not that much, I wouldn't think.
[19:31] <maco2> JontheEchidna: Riddell  says we're waiting on testers
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> lucid or karmic?
[19:32] <neversfelde> Karmic isn't finished
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> sorry for not being around to package... still adjusting to school, but I can test for lucid at least
[19:32] <maco2> he says akonadi needs updated (there's a new version) and kdelibs needs updated
[19:32]  * JontheEchidna ninjas up
[19:32] <JontheEchidna> I can do akonadi
[19:33] <neversfelde> I can testbuild the new kdelibs tarball, but it will last 1,5 h with my hardware?
[19:33] <maco2> i'm installing 4.4 on karmic
[19:33] <JontheEchidna> neversfelde: I can do it in 45 mins
[19:34] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: than probably you should do it :)
[19:34]  * JontheEchidna hugs his laptop
[19:35] <JontheEchidna> school blocking IRC doesn't help :(
[19:36] <neversfelde> it is annoying that KDE updates a tarball 3 hours before they release. They should have really postponed the release.
[19:37] <neversfelde> especially, when it is kdelibs
[19:37] <Tm_T> neversfelde: oh, let's see what that update was...
[19:38] <crimsun> maco2: do you have plans to work on bug 66551 before I merge it?
[19:38] <Tm_T> neversfelde: awww, last minute api change =)
[19:38] <neversfelde> Tm_T: "to fix a severe dbus connection leak and a BIC api problem in
[19:38] <neversfelde> highlighterinterface"
[19:38] <neversfelde> :)
[19:38] <Tm_T> yes
[19:40] <maco2> crimsun: if ya want, i can just merge it and fix that bug all in one o
[19:40] <maco2> *go
[19:40] <maco2> i have cookie under my g key
[19:40] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: if it helps, you could use my Quassel server?
[19:41] <Riddell> karmic needs kdebindings fixes
[19:41]  * Riddell makes it sew
[19:41] <JontheEchidna> neversfelde: I think they're blocking the ports that IRC uses. they may even only have a whitelist of port traffic that's allowed
[19:42] <JontheEchidna> since I can't send mail via smtp either
[19:42] <neversfelde> apachelogger: by the way, do you use the chroot on my server or is it outdated?
[19:43] <crimsun> maco2: if you can fix it in 5 minutes, go for it. I'm about to dput.
[19:43] <JontheEchidna> Ok, kde4libs pbuilding. will update akonadi in the meantime
[19:47] <maco2> crimsun: oh. then dput and ill fix it later
[19:48] <maco2> itll take me longer than that to apt-get source, debuild -S, and pbuild
[19:49] <neversfelde> are there any extragear packages?
[19:49] <neversfelde> s/packages/tarballs
[19:50] <JontheEchidna> I've not seen any yet on ktown
[19:51] <neversfelde> JontheEchidna: where are they normally on ktown?
[19:51] <neversfelde> I cannot find a dir called extragear
[19:51] <JontheEchidna> neversfelde: 4.4.0/extragear, usually
[19:51] <neversfelde> ok
[19:53] <Riddell> probably for the best
[20:04] <Riddell> attica is out of date for karmic
[20:04]  * Riddell updates
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> kde4libs w/ new is about half built, will be done in 20 or 30 mins
[20:07] <JontheEchidna> hopefully it'll just need to be a tarball switch for the karmic backports. that'd be really convenient
[20:08] <Riddell> did we get the second kdebase-runtime update?
[20:09] <JontheEchidna> ugh, got to go. will leave the build running in the car, but I won't get home for another hour or so
[20:10] <Riddell> no we didn't, I'll get onto kdebase-runtime b
[20:11] <neversfelde> there was a second kdebase-runtime update?
[20:12] <Riddell> yep
[20:12] <neversfelde> Riddell: shall I update the karmic package?
[20:14] <Trouble> 4.4 packaging in progress! \o/
[20:24] <Riddell> neversfelde: I'll do karmic too, else tars will get out of sync
[20:24] <neversfelde> Riddell: k
[20:27] <nixternal> oi oi
[20:27] <EagleScreen> in which PPA will you put 4.4.0 for karmic?
[20:28] <Riddell> staging then updates
[20:28] <Riddell> no
[20:28] <Riddell> staging then backports
[20:28] <neversfelde> :)
[20:32] <Riddell> uploading virtuoso virtuosoconverter and oxygen-icons to the archive
[20:32] <Riddell> just to get things started :)
[20:34] <nixternal> jjesse: config-desktop doesn't validate fyi
[20:35] <jjesse> yay
[20:36] <nixternal> jjesse: bzr up/pull
[20:36] <nixternal> no changes made to config-desktop, but there is a bunch of new and updated docs
[20:37] <nixternal> config-desktop isn't finished, so I am not to worried about it not validating/building right now
[20:38] <jjesse> nixternal: will work on it tonight
[20:39] <nixternal> roger that...getting ready to work on my bugs topic to finish that up
[20:39] <nixternal> want to have a package ready this week
[20:40] <nixternal> speaking of that, where the hell has darkwingduck been
[21:01] <Quintasan> Riddell: Are you sure that that kdebase-workspace "b" upload will fix it?
[21:02] <Riddell> Quintasan: fix what?
[21:02] <Riddell> kdebase-runtime is what got the b upload
[21:02] <Quintasan> hmm,
[21:03] <Riddell> kdebindings is what's blocking karmic and that's compiling
[21:03] <Quintasan> Riddell: anyways, kdebase karmic's build fails to install kdebase-workspace-dev, I wonder why
[21:03] <Riddell> because python-kde4 won't install
[21:06] <Quintasan> oh
[21:06] <Quintasan> Riddell: Is anyone working on it?
[21:06] <Quintasan> argh bindings
[21:06] <Quintasan> nvm
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> kde4libs just needs a tarball swap and akonadi just needs a tarball swap + changelog entry
[21:08] <JontheEchidna> debdiff for akonadi: http://pastebin.com/f3b813246
[21:09] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: I'm not sure, did I push your notifications patch (Printer Applet) to bzr?
[21:09] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: you did, iirc. I did backport some fixes to the patch
[21:10] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I'll upload akonadi to lucid and (for karmic) ninjas
[21:10] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: good, I was in a mood for some work and then I figured out LP sucks so much and it won't let me connect :/
[21:14] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: so if kde4libs is up I guess I can do the mass lucid upload
[21:14] <Riddell> s/up/known to work/
[21:14] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[21:15] <Quintasan> yeah, I'm readying my connection for update then :P
[22:37]  * Quintasan goes to bed
[22:37] <Quintasan> good night
[22:38] <TomasuAway> I'm doing a kde 4.4 release thing tonight, and I'm having a little trouble installing the rc packages from the ppa/beta repo, there seems to be a few conflicts..
[22:39] <Quintasan> TomasuAway: You'd better wait for 4.4 release, will save you few hundreds of MBs to download
[22:39] <Quintasan> it's few hours away
[22:39] <TomasuAway> I only have a couple hours or so before I have to leave...
[22:39] <TomasuAway> the rc is better than nothing at all.
[22:41] <Riddell> TomasuAway: are you on karmic?
[22:41] <Quintasan> TomasuAway: I usually go to /var/cache/apt/archives and install the problematic file with  sudo dpkg --force-overwrite <deb file> but it's not recommended
[22:41] <TomasuAway> Riddell: yes.
[22:42] <TomasuAway> it will let me install many of the updated packages, but it looks like its going to leave a bunch as 4.3
[22:42] <TomasuAway> and I cant forsee that going well
[22:42] <Riddell> TomasuAway: want to test what we have for 4.4.0?
[22:43] <TomasuAway> sure :)
[22:43]  * daskreech winks at TomasuAway
[22:43] <TomasuAway> daskreech: ;)
[22:44] <Riddell> TomasuAway: hmm actually it's not ready yet
[22:44] <Riddell> maybe in half an hour
[22:44] <Trouble> lol
[22:45] <TomasuAway> Riddell: I can wait a bit. hopefully it all works, I have to leave in about two hours, then I'll have another hour at the place I'm giving the presentation to get fully ready
[22:45] <TomasuAway> but I dont know what their internet will be like
[22:53]  * ryanakca is waiting until 4.4.0 hits the archives before dist-upgrading to lucid... I don't want to upgrade to whatever KDE version is currently in lucid and then have to redownload all of KDE again.
[22:54] <neversfelde> I retried several packages in ninja ppa, seems to work now
[22:56] <neversfelde> well, except for lpia
[22:57] <neversfelde> Riddell: I'll move the packages over to staging, once they build. Is that ok?
[22:58] <Riddell> 4.4.0 uploading to lucid
[22:58] <ryanakca> Can the KCC make people Ubuntu Contributing Developers? I'm guessing I can't really go Prospective Developer -> Developer whenever I get enough experience to join core-dev?
[22:58] <TomasuAway> Riddell: whats the average time on uploading kde? I imagine it might take a while
[22:58] <neversfelde> Riddell: ofcourse I talked about the karmic backport
[22:59] <Riddell> neversfelde: we need to move over the packages except the ones with 4.4.0a or b versions, those need re-uploaded
[22:59] <Riddell> else karmic will have larger version numbers than lucid
[22:59] <Lex79> namasté o/
[22:59] <JontheEchidna> So it seems now that K3b uses KAuth that the only thing using libpolkit-qt0 is the PolicyKit systemsettings module displaying things that use PolicyKit
[23:00] <Riddell> TomasuAway: depends on the net connection.  it's 360MB
[23:00] <TomasuAway> Riddell: I meant on how long it'll take you to upload, or whom ever is uploading ;)
[23:00] <JontheEchidna> ...which at the moment thanks to the efforts of Ubuntu is probably just PolicyKit itself
[23:00] <neversfelde> Riddell: so delete every a nad b packages?
[23:01] <JontheEchidna> the SS module also doesn't show things using PolicyKit-1, so it's sorta useless/confusing at the moment
[23:01] <neversfelde> s/nad/and
[23:01] <Riddell> neversfelde: don't copy them from ninjas to staging
[23:01] <Riddell> neversfelde: rather download the source from ninjas, rename to remove the a/b and upload to staging
[23:01] <JontheEchidna> I'm pinging dario freddi to see what his opinion is on the dialog
[23:02] <neversfelde> Riddell: k, I'lll do it
[23:02] <JontheEchidna> also all KAuth dialogs seem to be giving this cryptic "error message 4", will have to see what's up with that...
[23:02] <Riddell> neversfelde: but not until it's all compiled in ninjas preferably :)
[23:03] <neversfelde> yes
[23:03] <neversfelde> can I delete the packes in staging?
[23:03] <neversfelde> well, except for koffice, I need to improve it ths week
[23:04] <Riddell> neversfelde: yes go ahead
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> Not building kdebase-workspace with old-PolicyKit support would kick 202 kB of archives off the CD
[23:05] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: sounds like a good plan
[23:05] <Riddell> gosh we're 5MB under for i386
[23:06] <JontheEchidna> all that space-shaving payed off :)
[23:07] <JontheEchidna> debian picked up k3b-extrathemes too, so no diff there
[23:10] <Riddell> lovely
[23:10] <Riddell> incase anyone missed it, UDS in Belgium May 10th to 14th (probably)
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> I get out of school the 6th. I could possibly make it
[23:11] <Riddell> yay
[23:15] <Riddell> TomasuAway: all uploaded, did you time it? :)
[23:15] <TomasuAway> no, but its darn close to a half hour
[23:15] <TomasuAway> :D
[23:15] <TomasuAway> so its all in lucid? or the beta repo?
[23:16] <TomasuAway> or rather it was closer to 15 minutes...
[23:16] <Riddell> in lucid
[23:16] <TomasuAway> ah nice.
[23:16] <TomasuAway> so yeah, 17minutes give or take ;D
[23:17]  * TomasuAway goes to do an update
[23:17] <babalu> what about for karmic?
[23:18] <Riddell> just uploaded akonadi which should unblock it
[23:19] <babalu> what do you mean?
[23:21] <Riddell> it's in progresss
[23:21] <babalu> Riddell: ok :D
[23:21] <babalu> Riddell: should i go to sleep or wait a little?
[23:22] <daskreech> babalu: Lynx is full of testers :) so get them sorted there first then it should be much simpler to get good koala packages without great disruption
[23:23] <TomasuAway> hmm, trying to dist upgrade, seems theres a few conflicts :o
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> hmm, we might have to make soprano-daemon depend on the virtuoso stack, to prevent getting bug reports like bug 517962 from gnome users
[23:24]  * JontheEchidna unprivates
[23:26] <JontheEchidna> I really, really wish upstream would fix bug 321281 :(
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> 111 duplicates
[23:28] <persia> What is "signal 7" ?
[23:29]  * persia can't find it in signal(7)
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> I believe it's SEGV
[23:30] <persia> That's 11
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> oh, yeah
[23:31] <persia> and it's not a SEGV, because I can recognise those from the stacktrace, and it's the wrong stacktrace.
[23:31] <JontheEchidna> apparently the KPixmapCache code is really scary, or somesuch
[23:32] <persia> Still, it would help to know the nature of the issue.  Otherwise it's hard to fix, even for someone who dares the code :)
[23:33] <persia> I think it's either SIGBUS or SIGEMT, but I don't know which is correct for Ubuntu.
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> ah, basically whenever an app regenerates the pixmap cache/creates a new one the crash occurs (like when compositing is turned on or off, or the theme changes)
[23:34] <persia> That's probably SIGBUS then.  SIGEMT ought only happen for emulators.
[23:34] <persia> SIGBUS is usually the result of bad pointer arithmetic.
[23:40] <JontheEchidna> hmm, comment code in the same function says they're already trying to do things to prevent a SIGBUS
[23:41] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/372818/
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> (crashes at line 42)
[23:44] <persia> Hrm.  I wonder if it is related.  If info->file->size() is greater than info->available, I imagine something odd might happen when one attempts to map, but I'm not sure I really understand what info->available means.
[23:45] <TomasuAway> Riddell: is there a special server I should be downloading from? I seem to be getting only 4.3.98 packages which I assume is the rc releases...
[23:46] <persia> JontheEchidna: But given that comment, I suspect it's feasible to construct a small client program that always exposes the bug that could be used for instrumentation on iteration to resolve it.
[23:53] <TomasuAway> it seems its also going to install virtuoso 5.x. kde 4.4 seems to have a hard dependency on 6.1 afaik
[23:54] <neversfelde> how can I do an apt-get source or an dget from a private ppa?
[23:56] <Lex79> neversfelde: to doing with apt-get source you have to add in sources.list the entry with "deb-src"
[23:56] <persia> neversfelde: I don't think you can dget from a p3a
[23:57] <neversfelde> gnah, I copied over several binaries to staging and it is pretty late here now
[23:58] <neversfelde> a and b need to be removed, but I am bot sure, if I can do it today :(
[23:58] <Lex79> you can browse, you have to go in https://user:password@private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/