[02:14] test [06:30] jussio1: maco wonders why she can't connect to quassel core [07:14] Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/ailurus [07:14] Riddell: do you have some mins to review it? thx [09:25] o/ [10:59] Lex79: lol, metapackage failed at lpia build :O [11:46] Riddell: I think jussi01 moves/moved servers [11:46] Sput: who what? [11:46] jussio1: maco wonders why she can't connect to quassel core [11:46] didn't you ask me something about that yesterday? [11:47] oh, its on ubottu.com currently [11:47] please apologise, I was tired and forgot to let her know about this temporary change [11:50] should be back up on jussi01.com in the near future (read: tonight) [13:39] Riddell: not sure if you saw, I uploaded kebindings last night to ninjas [13:39] and unbroke the world :-) [13:40] NCommander: the world is unbroke? o.O [13:41] jussi01: well KDE anyway [13:42] NCommander: oh, ok then... :D [14:38] hey guys, any ETA for KDE SC 4.4 backports? :) [14:38] would love to upgrade [14:38] (Karmic) [14:39] markey: it will be soon, be patient [14:39] great :) [14:57] any progress with virtuoso 6.1 for lucid? === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [15:57] markey: it is not even released yet?! :P [15:58] apachelogger: [15:59] http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.4/ [15:59] :> === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:03] well clearly not published to the frontpage, so I suppose it is still not live? [16:05] apachelogger: it on the front page when I look [16:05] apachelogger: it is in the front page: www.kde.org; it's that the packages for kubuntu aren't ready yet [16:05] oh my oh my [16:06] Nightrose: new kde.org got a problem with notifying the browser of new content [16:06] or for some reason my chromium refused to reload properly [17:39] its been quiet today... a little too quiet... [19:05] hi guys [19:05] Is there any special steps for someone using Virtuoso to upgrade to KDE 4.4 final? [19:07] daskreech: make sure vituosoconverter is installed [19:07] THat's not done as a depends? [19:07] it's a recommends so it should be installed without asking [19:08] virtuosoconverter [19:08] hm ok [19:08] Will that be in the release notes? [19:10] can do [19:26] so.... anybody uploading stuff from bzr yet? [19:29] I guess we're waiting on Riddell and his script? [19:29] JontheEchidna: there were some last minute tarball updates, I do not knwo, if this blocks anything [19:30] probably not that much, I wouldn't think. [19:31] JontheEchidna: Riddell says we're waiting on testers [19:32] lucid or karmic? [19:32] Karmic isn't finished [19:32] sorry for not being around to package... still adjusting to school, but I can test for lucid at least [19:32] he says akonadi needs updated (there's a new version) and kdelibs needs updated [19:32] * JontheEchidna ninjas up [19:32] I can do akonadi [19:33] I can testbuild the new kdelibs tarball, but it will last 1,5 h with my hardware? [19:33] i'm installing 4.4 on karmic [19:33] neversfelde: I can do it in 45 mins [19:34] JontheEchidna: than probably you should do it :) [19:34] * JontheEchidna hugs his laptop [19:35] school blocking IRC doesn't help :( [19:36] it is annoying that KDE updates a tarball 3 hours before they release. They should have really postponed the release. [19:37] especially, when it is kdelibs [19:37] neversfelde: oh, let's see what that update was... [19:38] maco2: do you have plans to work on bug 66551 before I merge it? [19:38] Launchpad bug 66551 in hunspell-en-us "Application names should be in the dictionaries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66551 [19:38] neversfelde: awww, last minute api change =) [19:38] Tm_T: "to fix a severe dbus connection leak and a BIC api problem in [19:38] highlighterinterface" [19:38] :) [19:38] yes [19:40] crimsun: if ya want, i can just merge it and fix that bug all in one o [19:40] *go [19:40] i have cookie under my g key [19:40] JontheEchidna: if it helps, you could use my Quassel server? [19:41] karmic needs kdebindings fixes [19:41] * Riddell makes it sew [19:41] neversfelde: I think they're blocking the ports that IRC uses. they may even only have a whitelist of port traffic that's allowed [19:42] since I can't send mail via smtp either [19:42] apachelogger: by the way, do you use the chroot on my server or is it outdated? [19:43] maco2: if you can fix it in 5 minutes, go for it. I'm about to dput. [19:43] Ok, kde4libs pbuilding. will update akonadi in the meantime [19:47] crimsun: oh. then dput and ill fix it later [19:48] itll take me longer than that to apt-get source, debuild -S, and pbuild [19:49] are there any extragear packages? [19:49] s/packages/tarballs [19:50] I've not seen any yet on ktown [19:51] JontheEchidna: where are they normally on ktown? [19:51] I cannot find a dir called extragear [19:51] neversfelde: 4.4.0/extragear, usually [19:51] ok [19:53] probably for the best [20:04] attica is out of date for karmic [20:04] * Riddell updates [20:07] kde4libs w/ new is about half built, will be done in 20 or 30 mins [20:07] hopefully it'll just need to be a tarball switch for the karmic backports. that'd be really convenient [20:08] did we get the second kdebase-runtime update? [20:09] ugh, got to go. will leave the build running in the car, but I won't get home for another hour or so [20:10] no we didn't, I'll get onto kdebase-runtime b [20:11] there was a second kdebase-runtime update? [20:12] yep [20:12] Riddell: shall I update the karmic package? [20:14] 4.4 packaging in progress! \o/ [20:24] neversfelde: I'll do karmic too, else tars will get out of sync [20:24] Riddell: k [20:27] oi oi [20:27] in which PPA will you put 4.4.0 for karmic? [20:28] staging then updates [20:28] no [20:28] staging then backports [20:28] :) [20:32] uploading virtuoso virtuosoconverter and oxygen-icons to the archive [20:32] just to get things started :) [20:34] jjesse: config-desktop doesn't validate fyi [20:35] yay [20:36] jjesse: bzr up/pull [20:36] no changes made to config-desktop, but there is a bunch of new and updated docs [20:37] config-desktop isn't finished, so I am not to worried about it not validating/building right now [20:38] nixternal: will work on it tonight [20:39] roger that...getting ready to work on my bugs topic to finish that up [20:39] want to have a package ready this week [20:40] speaking of that, where the hell has darkwingduck been [21:01] Riddell: Are you sure that that kdebase-workspace "b" upload will fix it? [21:02] Quintasan: fix what? [21:02] kdebase-runtime is what got the b upload [21:02] hmm, [21:03] kdebindings is what's blocking karmic and that's compiling [21:03] Riddell: anyways, kdebase karmic's build fails to install kdebase-workspace-dev, I wonder why [21:03] because python-kde4 won't install [21:06] oh [21:06] Riddell: Is anyone working on it? [21:06] argh bindings [21:06] nvm [21:08] kde4libs just needs a tarball swap and akonadi just needs a tarball swap + changelog entry [21:08] debdiff for akonadi: http://pastebin.com/f3b813246 [21:09] JontheEchidna: I'm not sure, did I push your notifications patch (Printer Applet) to bzr? [21:09] Quintasan: you did, iirc. I did backport some fixes to the patch [21:10] JontheEchidna: I'll upload akonadi to lucid and (for karmic) ninjas [21:10] JontheEchidna: good, I was in a mood for some work and then I figured out LP sucks so much and it won't let me connect :/ [21:14] JontheEchidna: so if kde4libs is up I guess I can do the mass lucid upload [21:14] s/up/known to work/ [21:14] yeah [21:15] yeah, I'm readying my connection for update then :P [22:37] * Quintasan goes to bed [22:37] good night [22:38] I'm doing a kde 4.4 release thing tonight, and I'm having a little trouble installing the rc packages from the ppa/beta repo, there seems to be a few conflicts.. [22:39] TomasuAway: You'd better wait for 4.4 release, will save you few hundreds of MBs to download [22:39] it's few hours away [22:39] I only have a couple hours or so before I have to leave... [22:39] the rc is better than nothing at all. [22:41] TomasuAway: are you on karmic? [22:41] TomasuAway: I usually go to /var/cache/apt/archives and install the problematic file with sudo dpkg --force-overwrite but it's not recommended [22:41] Riddell: yes. [22:42] it will let me install many of the updated packages, but it looks like its going to leave a bunch as 4.3 [22:42] and I cant forsee that going well [22:42] TomasuAway: want to test what we have for 4.4.0? [22:43] sure :) [22:43] * daskreech winks at TomasuAway [22:43] daskreech: ;) [22:44] TomasuAway: hmm actually it's not ready yet [22:44] maybe in half an hour [22:44] lol [22:45] Riddell: I can wait a bit. hopefully it all works, I have to leave in about two hours, then I'll have another hour at the place I'm giving the presentation to get fully ready [22:45] but I dont know what their internet will be like [22:53] * ryanakca is waiting until 4.4.0 hits the archives before dist-upgrading to lucid... I don't want to upgrade to whatever KDE version is currently in lucid and then have to redownload all of KDE again. [22:54] I retried several packages in ninja ppa, seems to work now [22:56] well, except for lpia [22:57] Riddell: I'll move the packages over to staging, once they build. Is that ok? [22:58] 4.4.0 uploading to lucid [22:58] Can the KCC make people Ubuntu Contributing Developers? I'm guessing I can't really go Prospective Developer -> Developer whenever I get enough experience to join core-dev? [22:58] Riddell: whats the average time on uploading kde? I imagine it might take a while [22:58] Riddell: ofcourse I talked about the karmic backport [22:59] neversfelde: we need to move over the packages except the ones with 4.4.0a or b versions, those need re-uploaded [22:59] else karmic will have larger version numbers than lucid [22:59] namasté o/ [22:59] So it seems now that K3b uses KAuth that the only thing using libpolkit-qt0 is the PolicyKit systemsettings module displaying things that use PolicyKit [23:00] TomasuAway: depends on the net connection. it's 360MB [23:00] Riddell: I meant on how long it'll take you to upload, or whom ever is uploading ;) [23:00] ...which at the moment thanks to the efforts of Ubuntu is probably just PolicyKit itself [23:00] Riddell: so delete every a nad b packages? [23:01] the SS module also doesn't show things using PolicyKit-1, so it's sorta useless/confusing at the moment [23:01] s/nad/and [23:01] neversfelde: don't copy them from ninjas to staging [23:01] neversfelde: rather download the source from ninjas, rename to remove the a/b and upload to staging [23:01] I'm pinging dario freddi to see what his opinion is on the dialog [23:02] Riddell: k, I'lll do it [23:02] also all KAuth dialogs seem to be giving this cryptic "error message 4", will have to see what's up with that... [23:02] neversfelde: but not until it's all compiled in ninjas preferably :) [23:03] yes [23:03] can I delete the packes in staging? [23:03] well, except for koffice, I need to improve it ths week [23:04] neversfelde: yes go ahead [23:05] Not building kdebase-workspace with old-PolicyKit support would kick 202 kB of archives off the CD [23:05] JontheEchidna: sounds like a good plan [23:05] gosh we're 5MB under for i386 [23:06] all that space-shaving payed off :) [23:07] debian picked up k3b-extrathemes too, so no diff there [23:10] lovely [23:10] incase anyone missed it, UDS in Belgium May 10th to 14th (probably) [23:11] I get out of school the 6th. I could possibly make it [23:11] yay [23:15] TomasuAway: all uploaded, did you time it? :) [23:15] no, but its darn close to a half hour [23:15] :D [23:15] so its all in lucid? or the beta repo? [23:16] or rather it was closer to 15 minutes... [23:16] in lucid [23:16] ah nice. [23:16] so yeah, 17minutes give or take ;D [23:17] * TomasuAway goes to do an update [23:17] what about for karmic? [23:18] just uploaded akonadi which should unblock it [23:19] what do you mean? [23:21] it's in progresss [23:21] Riddell: ok :D [23:21] Riddell: should i go to sleep or wait a little? === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [23:22] babalu: Lynx is full of testers :) so get them sorted there first then it should be much simpler to get good koala packages without great disruption [23:23] hmm, trying to dist upgrade, seems theres a few conflicts :o [23:24] hmm, we might have to make soprano-daemon depend on the virtuoso stack, to prevent getting bug reports like bug 517962 from gnome users [23:24] Bug 517962 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/517962 is private [23:24] * JontheEchidna unprivates [23:26] I really, really wish upstream would fix bug 321281 :( [23:26] Launchpad bug 321281 in kdebase "krunner crashed with signal 7 in KPixmapCache::Private::mmapFile()" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321281 [23:27] 111 duplicates [23:28] What is "signal 7" ? [23:29] * persia can't find it in signal(7) [23:30] I believe it's SEGV [23:30] That's 11 [23:30] oh, yeah [23:31] and it's not a SEGV, because I can recognise those from the stacktrace, and it's the wrong stacktrace. [23:31] apparently the KPixmapCache code is really scary, or somesuch [23:32] Still, it would help to know the nature of the issue. Otherwise it's hard to fix, even for someone who dares the code :) [23:33] I think it's either SIGBUS or SIGEMT, but I don't know which is correct for Ubuntu. [23:33] ah, basically whenever an app regenerates the pixmap cache/creates a new one the crash occurs (like when compositing is turned on or off, or the theme changes) [23:34] That's probably SIGBUS then. SIGEMT ought only happen for emulators. [23:34] SIGBUS is usually the result of bad pointer arithmetic. [23:40] hmm, comment code in the same function says they're already trying to do things to prevent a SIGBUS [23:41] http://paste.ubuntu.com/372818/ [23:42] (crashes at line 42) [23:44] Hrm. I wonder if it is related. If info->file->size() is greater than info->available, I imagine something odd might happen when one attempts to map, but I'm not sure I really understand what info->available means. [23:45] Riddell: is there a special server I should be downloading from? I seem to be getting only 4.3.98 packages which I assume is the rc releases... [23:46] JontheEchidna: But given that comment, I suspect it's feasible to construct a small client program that always exposes the bug that could be used for instrumentation on iteration to resolve it. [23:53] it seems its also going to install virtuoso 5.x. kde 4.4 seems to have a hard dependency on 6.1 afaik [23:54] how can I do an apt-get source or an dget from a private ppa? [23:56] neversfelde: to doing with apt-get source you have to add in sources.list the entry with "deb-src" [23:56] neversfelde: I don't think you can dget from a p3a [23:57] gnah, I copied over several binaries to staging and it is pretty late here now [23:58] a and b need to be removed, but I am bot sure, if I can do it today :( [23:58] you can browse, you have to go in https://user:password@private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/