[00:02] hei [00:09] hello [00:10] where do i find the settings for when i press my power off button,in gnome i could chose shut down hibernat log out etc but in KDE only log-out comes up === Name is now known as Guest77716 === AssociateXxx is now known as AssociateX [00:22] for the life of me [00:23] ??? [00:23] how do I make a ext2/3 partition rw by every system user? [00:23] how do I set it up in fstab [00:23] dont know sorry [00:23] it's ok [00:26] AssociateX: the user maybe, not sure, has to be in a special group, or maybe it is a mount option [00:28] KDesk: right, I just don't know what to put in fstab [00:29] I'm googling the hell out of this right now. [00:31] most for what I want is aimed at fat32 [00:31] I want to have a partition ext2/3 open to every one. [00:32] AssociateX: did you see "man mount"? There is a group option [00:33] AssociateX: better option "users" [00:34] what would the fstab line look like? [00:36] AssociateX: I think: /etc/sdX /media/mount-point extX defaults,users 0 2 [00:37] AssociateX: is that device a fixed or a external device? [00:38] fixed [00:39] KDesk how do i get shut down option on log out for KDE? [00:40] ubuntu_mad: what do you mean? like suspend to ram/disk? [00:41] KDesk: mmm ya for example when i hit the power button i only get the option to log out not shut down [00:42] brb [00:44] hello help me to fix my problm [00:44] ubuntu_mad: I think this is what you need: In System Settings, Advanced tab -> Session Manager -> Offer shutdown options [00:44] i am uable to use mobile broadband internet connection in ubuntu 9.10 [00:44] help me [00:46] hola [00:47] hola [00:47] hola [00:48] KDesk: ya its selected [00:49] KDesk:still only got log-out when i hit power button [00:49] gotta run..back later [00:49] ubuntu_mad: I get: logout, shutdown and restart, hmm [00:55] hi [01:06] Hello i have problem, i dont know configure the quassel. How can i add server in quassel? [01:11] hello, does anyone know if we'll be getting KDE 4.4 SC tomorrow in Kubuntu 9.10? [01:37] exit [01:48] greetings infidels [02:05] what would be causing my youtube videos to lagg? [02:06] I hope this is a common problem. upgraded 9.04 -> 9.10 and no desktop [02:07] Fatal server error === root is now known as Guest70232 [02:18] is there a good source for getting NVIDIA HDMI sound working? [02:18] google has given me a deluge [02:39] jakent: what nvidia card are you using? And, desktop or laptop? [02:40] desktop ... the built in on the GeForce 9200 motherboard [02:41] What devices do you see in System Settings > Multimedia? [02:44] GeForce 8200 (video card) ... === EtienneP_ is now known as EtienneP [02:45] ok [02:45] so uner System Settings > Multimedia [02:45] i see HDA NVidia, NVIDIA HDMI (HDMI Audio Output) [02:45] HDA NVidia (ALC888 Analog) [02:45] and finally HDA NVidia (ALC888 Digital) [02:46] wait, three more ... scrolling :-| [02:46] Pulse Audio [02:46] HDA NVidia (NVIDIA HDMI) [02:46] Click on one of those and hit the "Test" button at the bottom. It'll play the login tune through that output device, or tell you it's not functional. [02:46] HDA Nvidia, ALC888 Digital (IEC958 (SPDIF) Digital Audio Output [02:46] hi i am wanting to know how to make the embedding area of my external hdd bigger so i can install grub 2 on it [02:46] so, i get no sound and no error message when I use any that say NVidia [02:47] BUT the pulse audio complains doesn't exit [02:47] jakent, what your sound card [02:49] can a linux wizard help me with mv? [02:50] meowbuntu: I have the GeForce 9200 motherboard... so the integrated sound card without through the HDMI port [02:51] ^ meaning ??? your motherboard does not have a sound card [02:52] !ask | MadRush [02:52] MadRush: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [02:52] jakent: open kmix (speaker shaped systray icon), go to setting > configure channels, and be sure that IEC958 and IEC958 Default PCM are visible and un-muted. [02:54] have two folders, /abc and /def. want to move /abc/123 -> /def/123. file start copying, i cancel it with ctrl c. 123 has subdirectories, so when I try to repeat the same operation, it stops when it comes to overwriting directories. what switch am I looking for to force it to write into / over them? [02:56] e_t_: can't find it in the systray, but it appears to crash when started from menu, looking at that now [02:56] MadRush: "mv -f" will force overwriting without a prompt. [02:58] does it matter at all if /abc is on one physical disk and /def a different one? [02:58] Not at all. [02:58] mv: inter-device move failed: `wine-/' to `../../sg250/wine-'; unable to remove target: Is a directory [03:01] The other option is a combination of cp + rm, or rsync --remove-source-files [03:04] ok [03:05] so, is this typical though? mv won't overwrite directories (and then nix them) ? [03:08] I'm not sure. I would tend to view it as a safety mechanism -- ensure you don't lose anything in transit between disks, then have it gone from it's source too, but I may be completely off. [03:08] what's the google chrome browser for linux called? [03:09] xrandr: Google Chrome [03:18] I just installed Kubuntu 9.10 and Compiz Fusion and whenever I try to use desktop cube, it shows I have two desktops. When I use expo, it shows 4, but when I use the desktop cube or ctrl+alt+left/right, it only uses 2. In the general settigns of compiz I have it set to 2 vertical and horizontal desktops, but it is stuck on 1 for the number of desktops. Is there anyway to make it so I actually have 4? === meowbuntu is now known as mehheh === mehheh is now known as meowbuntu [03:35] a === usuario is now known as Carolina [03:39] thanks guys [03:39] exit [03:50] Ok.. I'm having problems with my screen resolution, x server, no desktop problem when I upgraded to 9.10 [03:50] oh, kdesudo not working either [03:51] I have to use shortcut key to command prompt [03:51] hi all, does somebody have problems with mounting usb hdd in 9.10? [03:59] can someone tell me how to get my notes back on top of my desktop please? [04:00] hi [04:01] olskolirc: which notes? [04:09] the ones that are on the desktop after the fresh install e_t_ lol [04:12] go up to the "cashew" in the upper right hand corner of the screen. click it, and then click Add Widgets. The one you want is called Leave A Note. [05:16] hi guys, [05:16] is anyone in here active? [05:17] i'm coming across that dual monitor issue and realized that 4.4 should be released tomorrow which has the fixes in it. How long till the kubuntu repository picks it up? [05:57] anyone here? [06:35] Where is KDE 4.4 rc3? [06:48] newbie123abc [06:48] u there? [07:07] hi all [07:14] hi lauritz [07:14] if i update/upgrade over konsole with apt-get, linux-headers... will kept back.. if i update over kpackagekit, they will be installed.. why this different? [07:35] Hello... i need some help on my Kubuntu installation... the problem i have is that the grub wont load... i have a 200mb partition in the beginning for /boot... then a 100 mb partition that windows 7 makes and then windows 7.. after that i have swap and then / .. i installed grub on the /boot but whan i start it says Missing Operating system.... any ideas? === steven_ is now known as ShainBUD [07:44] does someone know how to setup my UPEK touchdriver with karmic 64bit? [07:49] Hello... i need some help on my Kubuntu installation... the problem i have is that the grub wont load... i have a 200mb partition in the beginning for /boot... then a 100 mb partition that windows 7 makes and then windows 7.. after that i have swap and then / .. i installed grub on the /boot but whan i start it says Missing Operating system.... any ideas? === user is now known as Guest78683 [08:10] I somehow managed to create a split view in Konsole, how do I get back the normal view [08:20] ctrl+shift+o will return view to normal [08:23] how do i make x to start up automatically when booting to Kubuntu? for some reason i end up logging in text mode and need to write startx === user is now known as Guest60865 [08:56] hallo === gokturk is now known as Guest159 === mint_ is now known as meowbuntu [09:36] !ask | turtle^s0up: [09:36] turtle^s0up:: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [09:37] ^ meaning really it this case ask a question [09:42] Do guys know if KDE SC 4.4 is coming to Karmic or do we have to wait for it until Lucid? [09:43] new releases of software usually only appear in new releases of *buntu [09:43] except for bug-fixes/security enhancements [09:43] I imagine there will be / is a backport PPA out there somewhere though [09:44] yeah there is, using 4.4 RC2 now [09:44] I meant the final version that's been released today [09:45] it won't appear in the main Karmic repos. [09:54] Hay there people, I have a question, how do I stop my computer from going to sleep when I close the screen lid? [09:55] Anyone? [09:55] shiro_: look at the Power Manager profiles, goto Edit [09:56] Ahhh Okay Thank you so much turtle =] [09:56] np [09:59] I don't want to bug but I have another question, How do I turn on multi-touch for my touch pad? === sven is now known as Guest71964 === michal__ is now known as smutnymuz === otswim is now known as babalu [11:01] I can't re produce it but i sucessfully turnd on the "no borders" and on the "shade" options at the same time :D [11:04] If i set proxy settings in ~/.wgetrc and in the network manager but still can't find packages in KPackageKit, what would be the next logical step? [11:04] hi [11:04] FeasibilityStudy, one sec, and I'll be right with you [11:06] hello evry 1 [11:06] Im going ahead and installing this, jaem, I will be a guinea pig and/or an idiot ;) === julian__ is now known as timetrick [11:08] jaem: I am going to logout and log back in...BRB..Wish me luck [11:08] ...here's hoping FeasibilityStudy doesn't run a dist-upgrade >_< [11:09] !dist-upgrade [11:09] A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. Please see !upgrade for the proper release upgrade methods. [11:09] bazhang, yes, I know, hence my comment [11:09] jaem, it wont change versions unless sources.list are explicitly changed [11:10] FeasibilityStudy was messing with the kubuntu beta PPA, and from what I heard in #kde, it sounded like his/her system was in the same state mine was a while ago [11:10] in which case doing so would try to remove lots of important things [11:10] that was all I was saying [11:10] I'm aware of how dist-upgrade works [11:10] got a question: can i write a script to tell NetworkManager to switch to another connection? [11:10] missed that part, my apologies [11:10] bazhang, no problem ;) [11:11] Sorry for language, but oh my fucking GOD, the new kde.org website is amazing!!!!!!!! :O [11:12] apology accepted - it is :D [11:13] hey whats KDE ??? [11:13] youcef: Are you kidding me? :P === epic is now known as Akallabeth [11:14] youcef, old branding or new? ;) [11:14] ahem [11:14] jaem: I dont understand why they have been waiting until now, but better now then never I guess :P I really hope this time the login screen get same love as the website, because it is really ugly except background image :P [11:15] i am new [11:15] i am new ubuntu user [11:15] "KDE" is an internation technology team... etc (read the website). [11:15] what you're probably referring to, though [11:15] what they mak KDE [11:15] youcef: Alright, I dont know if you are using Kubuntu or not, but it is the desktop "system"/environment *buntu dist you are using :P [11:15] is the KDE Software Compilation, which consists of a desktop workspace, a whole whack of applications, and a development platform [11:16] youcef, give me a sec [11:16] youcef: visit kubuntu.com and kde.org to find out more [11:16] I have to press ` twice for it to show up once. The first time it doesn't register, the second time it shows up? [11:16] Anybody know why that would happen? [11:16] youcef, these pages aren't quite done yet (they're still tweaking things) but they should give you a good overview: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.4/guide.php [11:16] although that's the new version which Kubuntu won't officially ship until April [11:16] THANK YOU [11:17] youcef, you're welcome :) [11:17] kde.org [11:17] fail.. [11:17] and FYI, you can get the new version in the mean time, but YMMV as it's not officially supported by Kubuntu at the moment [11:17] jussi01, ? [11:17] jaem: Btw, do you know approximetly when the 4.4 packages are compiled and ready? :P [11:17] jaem: was aimed for my browser address bar [11:18] oxymoron, not a clue for Kubuntu - I primarily use Arch (but I'm borrowing a friend's Kubuntu laptop) [11:18] hopefully soon [11:18] Arch already has them ready... before the release announcement :P [11:18] jussi01, heh [11:18] jaem: Alright, well I have been waiting since KDE officially said that theyve released RC3 which never came for Kubuntu :P [11:19] jaem: Lucky you :P [11:19] oxymoron, not really... my Arch box is borked [11:19] oxymoron: 4.4 should hit a ppa in the fairly near future - next few days Id imagine [11:19] and I haven't had time/money to fix it [11:19] jussi01, yeah, I was going to mention that [11:20] In anycase, as much as its exciting, its really a topic for #kubuntu-offtopic. [11:20] When I do "apt-get update" I get "connect (111: Connection refused)" for all connections, I'm behind a proxy and use Kubuntu 9.10 [11:20] jussi01: Next few days? :P Not today or what are you saying. [11:21] jaem: Whats "borked"? :P My english is not perfect ... xD [11:22] oxymoron, that's kind of the point :P [11:22] borked is derived from "borken", an intentional misspelling of "broken" for ironic effect [11:22] also spelt "b0rked" [11:23] jussi01, yeah, sorry - I got carried away [11:23] jaem: Hahahaha :D [11:24] Sertion: Im sorry, I havent really any idea with proxies. [11:24] jussi01: Ok =\ If I can't fix it it makes the dist useless [11:25] Had the same problem with Arch, openSUSE, Ubuntu, Debiand and so on [11:25] Sertion: I assume youve looked in the system proxy conf? [11:26] jussi01: .kde/share/config/kioslaverc? [11:26] Sertion, what sort of proxy? [11:26] jaem: I thought you probalbly meant forked or something but no :P [11:26] jaem: a Webproxy [11:26] Sertion, HTTP, then? [11:26] jaem: Ya, uses some Microsoft application [11:27] Sertion, hmm, not sure [11:27] ISA i think it is. [11:27] I've only ever used SOCKS for apt, and I didn't have fun with it [11:27] I have found an old bug that says that it's fixed [11:27] Not sure if it really is a kubuntu topic, but I wonder if someone knows if the wonderful IM-client KMess are going to release version 2.1 soon? :P Or maybe if Kopete got their hands on a nicer GUI and webcam support before them? xD [11:28] oxymoron, I presume you mean MSN webcam support? [11:28] because it already supports webcams to some extent [11:28] and yeah, Kopete isn't terribly pretty, but it gets the job done [11:28] for that matter, though, you can theme up the chat window quite nicely with GetHotNewStuff [11:28] that should help [11:28] jaem: It has not been working at all with my DV-cam anyhow and you cannot even setup the device inside Kopete :P But I guess I mean MSN webcam support yeah :P [11:29] oxymoron, hmm... I seem to recall some discussion about old/stale code in the Kopete webcam section, but I'm not involved, so I have no idea what's going on :P [11:30] I've gotten it recognizing a Logitech cam before, in 4.3, but I none of the IM networks I use were supported at that point, so I couldn't fully test it [11:32] Rage... there is an app called apt-proxy that makes it possible to use a HTTP-proxy with apt but I can't download it cuss I'm behind a proxy :D [11:32] jaem: Its not a break through if webcam support for MSN protocol is released but I dont know why they havent solved it yet. Not even Pidgin has been using any solution, only aMSN but it really sucks big time ... And what about STUN-protocol for really fast File transfering. I am really irritated that I must use imagebin.ca instead of msn to send screenshots or images at all through msn because of the lousy File transfering :P On [11:32] MSNP16 I think theyve using multiple protocols + MSN-servers to send faster :P [11:32] oxymoron: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:33] FloodBotK1: LoL ... but thanks anyhow for the remind ;) [11:33] hehe [11:33] yeah, isn't aMSN written in TCL/TK or something old like that? [11:33] I tried it, but it was kind of painful [11:34] anyhow, yeah, it would be nice [11:34] at least *buntu puts users in the video group by default... *sigh* early in my Arch days, I spent about 30min wondering why I couldn't access the webcam XD [11:35] jaem: But I really like the IM-clients in GNU/Linux and Kubuntu overall, the messagin is really wonderful. It is only the support of media-protocols thats kind of sucks even if it is not really a big problem. One really nice thing would also be screensharing like they have in SKype (L) [11:35] jaem: I dont know exactly what kind of graphic render library it uses, but I sure know it looks damn ugly :D [11:36] It's a pain to get all the deps for a package mannually :''[ [11:36] jaem: KDE 4.3+ is the first desktop overall that looks esteticly nice for my eyes. IMO it looks more beautiful than Windows 7. [11:37] Sertion: Isnt there a "apt-get build-dep" command? [11:37] oxymoron, yeah, for the most part. Widgets on the desktop certainly beat Win7 flat [11:37] and now I'd say it's prettier overall [11:38] the Oxygen theme window tabbing integration is gorgeous [11:38] oxymoron: My problem is that my apt can't acces the internet [11:38] jaem: Like plasmoids, but honestly I dont really use them at all I like clean and simple without anything on desktop :P Video desktop would be nice though - Maybe supports it already? :P [11:39] oxymoron, I go back and forth, but using it as a dashboard is kind of handy [11:39] Sertion: AH I see, well that sounds like an issue to solve first :P Why do you have to use a proxy then? :P [11:39] say, when you need a few sticky-notes and a todo list [11:39] just *tap* and it pops up, and tap esc and it disappears [11:39] oxymoron: I'm using the network at my school [11:40] but I agree, I'm not really a "widgety" guy, which is why I'm glad the Plasma team used widgets as a means to an end, unlike most implementations [11:40] and in that, they've done a superb job [11:40] jaem: I prefer my Android phone to help me with todo-list and reminders :P Btw, do you know if there is some application for Kubuntu like KAlarm that supports BIOS-alarm clock or something like that? But then it MUST works, because I do not afford to miss time :D [11:41] WTF! Doesn't Kubuntu come with Python 2.6 installed? [11:41] if you mean something that reads directly from the RTC, then I highly doubt anything that high-level would do so [11:41] but unless Kubuntu is magically changing time on you, I don't see why that's an issue? [11:42] jaem: Yeah, KDE/Plasma/Kubuntu teams does a smooth and pretty job and it goes fast even if I personally think sometimes their priority is wrong, but its not my call I am just a end user xD [11:42] scratch that '?' [11:42] oxymoron, well, it's not your call to complain and rant, but it's certainly your prerogative to give constructive feedback if that's how you feel [11:42] jaem: Uhm, that language is to advanced for me, whats RTC, high-level and so on? :P [11:42] this *is* Linux after all [11:42] oxymoron, oh, sorry [11:43] RTC==Real-Time Clock, in this case, referring to the actual chip that the BIOS reads from [11:43] jaem: Its not really a complain, but it feels good to express my "feelings" :P If nobody cares, that sucks for me, but does it matter in the end, both yes and no :P [11:43] high-level/low-level generally refers to levels of abstraction. So, for example, a program with pretty pictures and drag-and-drop would be "higher-level" than a set of toggle switches that accomplish the same task [11:44] that's a rather ridiculous example, but hopefully it gets the point across [11:44] oxymoron, yeah, but if you think things should be done differently, then post in Brainstorm, or bug the devs [11:44] they may not agree, but they generally care, as long as people are polite and reasonable [11:45] jaem: Aha I see, not to advanced for me, just didnt here the expressions in english before xD WOuld be nice with a higher-level app that communicates through the lower levers or backwards :P [11:45] oxymoron, well, theoretically any app that has a clock should be drawing from the system time, which is set from the RTC [11:45] so I don't see what the issue is [11:46] as I said, you could probably read directly from the device, but that shouldn't be necessary [11:47] jaem: I think I am quite lazy in that matter actually, I dont post bugs or brainstormings :P I am the one that does not really understand the beauty of democracy if I am a minority of the people, the geeks does not want GUI like I want, they prefer CLI and prior other things then I mostly :P [11:47] jaem: Alright, so theoretecly my computer could be turned of and use Alarm? I cant sleep with my computer turned on ... [11:48] oxymoron, that depends who you ask. I love KDE software because it makes things slick, pretty, and easy to do. Furthermore, *buntu is good at making things straightforward [11:48] jaem: My computer is nasty if is tunred on :D [11:48] on the other hand, there are times when it's quicker for me to cut to the chase and pull out a terminal [11:48] oxymoron, ah, I see what you mean [11:48] hmm [11:49] I'm not sure what sort of BIOS you have, but mine has an alarm to power on the computer [11:49] you want to set that from a GUI program? [11:49] jaem: Theyve said Android alarm should work even if I turn off my phone, but it does not. [11:49] jaem: Yeah a GUI would be nice, and play music smooth instead of an Alarm too xD [11:50] you're drifting into the realms of embedded systems, there [11:50] I'm still not entirely sure we're on the same page, but either way, I think it would be vendor-specific [11:50] jaem: And yes sometimes temrinal is kind of handy, especially when the new Adept Frontend IMO sucks and start slow ... [11:50] and probably not practical in the sense you mean [11:50] oxymoron, I was thinking more of my frustration trying to help a friend "fix" networking in Windows Vista [11:51] hi! is it possible to remotely control a kubuntu desktop from another kubuntu computer? [11:51] "okay, so let's click on the networking icon..." *box pops up* "...hmm... 'fix networking'..." *click* *wait five minutes* "UNABLE TO FIX NETWORKING" "...well, darn!" [11:51] ct529, yep [11:51] several ways [11:52] do you want to just remotely log in, or take control of a login session that's already active on the other computer? [11:52] jaem: Hahaha, yeah its quite ugly to get network communicate in Windows xD Especially the communciation between new network stack in Vista and the old one in XP :D Hahaha, not backwards compatible xD [11:53] jaem: take control of the desktop, either by opening a new session or by using an existing session, so that the desktop is mirrored, and actions carried out on one desktop are carried out also on the other [11:53] oxymoron, I was more appalled by the "Fix Networking" button, which takes several times as long to fix things as I would manually in the terminal on Linux, and often just fails and tells you to try again [11:53] ct529, ah, okay [11:53] jaem: Woho, unable to solve the problem ... sounds like an fix for Blue Screen of terror maybe? :D Like ATI and atidvag.dll or what it called, crashed my system several times and ATI NEVER EVER solved the problem, but it could be Windows issue also :P [11:53] jaem: used for tech support and user support [11:53] I personally use NX, from NoMachine.com, for remote desktop. I believe it is capable of that (I think they call it "shadowing"), but I've never actually tried [11:54] jaem: Kubuntu and networking on the other hand just works out of the box. More problem with wireless maybe, but works quite smooth now I guess :) [11:54] it's a bit technical to set up, but the server's config file is well-commented, and should be straight-forward if you know your way around those sorts of things [11:54] jaem: ok [11:55] oxymoron, well, for that matter, my last ATI card made X bail on startup for *5* successive versions of Catalyst [11:55] that's why I have to go with nVidia, despite their somewhat anti-Open Source stance :/ [11:55] at least they make products that I can count on to *work* [11:55] jaem: it does not look like it is OS [11:56] ct529, yeah, I should have mentioned [11:56] jaem: No ATI for me anymore ... still the first PCI express card ATI Radeon X600 but still xD [11:56] there is a Free/OSS server [11:56] but the official client is only Free as in Beer [11:56] jaem: :( [11:56] you can get one called QtNX, which is FOSS, but I don't know if it's as featureful [11:56] jaem: oh thanks! [11:57] it should do the job, though [11:57] I think the official NX client supports RDP and VNC as well. and maybe a few other things that QtNX doesn't [11:57] also, IIRC KRDC either has initial NX support, or it's in the works [11:58] jaem: but if you use VNC you do not really control / shadow the other desktop .... do you? [11:58] ct529, you need a special VNC server, but it is possible [11:58] NX is much more bandwidth-friendly, though [11:58] they claim you can maintain a session over dialup [11:58] ...although "maintain" is probably used in a similar sense to what MS meant by "Vista-capable" :P [11:58] Btw is it possible to remotely connect and communicate with Kubuntu/Linux with a cell phone? :P [11:59] how do you mean? [11:59] oxymoron, well, you can get a shell on any phone that has an SSh client [11:59] you can do SSH on many cell phones [11:59] such as the N900, probably Android, and WinMo with PocketPuTTY [11:59] jaem: :D .... it would work on a local network in general and on a broadband some times (rarely), so I am not bothered .... :) [11:59] ct529, I'd still recommend NX if it works for you, though [11:59] it's quite nice [11:59] jaem: Symbian too (there's a PuTTY port nowaways) [12:00] jaem, Vroomfondle: Alright, what to do after an SSH connection then, what can I do theorectly? [12:00] jaem: ok .... but I will use qtnx because I would like FOSS [12:00] oxymoron, ct529, but there's an NX client in the works for the N900 [12:00] ct529, sure thing [12:00] jaem: interesting [12:00] oxymoron: it'll give you a terminal. You can do anything that you'd normally be able to do via terminal. [12:00] ct529, the N900 client more or less works, but I've run into issues [12:00] For graphics, some phones have a VNC client available I think, but frankly using a desktop GUI on a phone will be... erm... tricky and frustrating ;) [12:01] jaem: I dont like Nokia, and by default not their N900 even if Maemo or what they call it is quite Open SOurce xD [12:01] oxymoron, also, you can do X-remoting (basically pulling an individual app up from a remote system), if the server is set up for it [12:01] oxymoron, well, you'd be hard pressed to find a phone that's more open [12:01] Vroomfondle: What about graphicly communicate then? If I want for instance make a backup of my phone to my computer, how do I do that? :P [12:02] and the company attitude is "it's your phone - go nuts!" - in stark contrast to the draconian policies of other companies [12:02] jaem: how does it exactly work???? there is no doc with qtnx .... :( .... do I have to start it on both desktops? [12:02] e.g. they disable root by default just so noobs don't do stupid things, but tell you how to get it on the official website, and it's dead simple [12:02] jaem: I like Android <3 Maemo is quite good I guess, but again no Nokia ... Apple or HTC only at the moment for cell phones/smartphones xD [12:03] ct529, QtNX is the client, which you'll need to access the server [12:03] FreeNX (from nomachine.com) is the FOSS server, which will have to be configured in the terminal [12:03] jaem: Alright so basicly I can "only" do terminal based things? :P [12:03] oxymoron: ah, you mean like cloning your contacts & photos via bluetooth? [12:03] there should be documentation and/or tutorials on that on the web [12:03] jaem: ok, so the server on the machine you want to control .... [12:04] but as I said, if you're comfortable with that sort of thing, it should be fairly straightforward, and if you're not, then this probably isn't for you [12:04] ...which isn't to say that I wouldn't mind walking you through it anyway, but it's 4am here :P [12:04] oxymoron, more or less, yes [12:04] jaem: orgh! [12:04] but if you can get a VNC/NX client on your phone, then you can get a full graphical login [12:05] Vroomfondle: That would be nice yes even if I didnt specificly want that :P Or like using my Droidphone as an remote controller for what to say, Amarok? :P [12:05] I think Amarok might have a web interface (not sure though - I don't use it) [12:05] for bluetooth, I believe the usual toolset is: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/kdebluetooth4?content=84761 [12:06] oxymoron: or as jaem suggests, some sort of NX/VNC/X client will work, assuming such a thing exists for Android [12:06] Vroomfondle: I dont like bad hacks though or ugly complex interfaces :D Think Apple iPhone OS:ly and weyre talking what kind of easyness I want :D [12:06] Vroomfondle: Alright, will be searching for NX/VNC/X and so on for my Android :P [12:08] Vroomfondle: If it is not nice and easy I probably dont wanna bother use it even if it maybe works if you fork back and forth xD [12:08] oxymoron, I think there are some media remote control apps for various phones, but I don't know if they work with the 'Rok [12:09] oxymoron, my N900 can act as a full HID input device for my computer :D (e.g. keyboard with the slider, mouse with the touchscreen, etc) [12:09] jaem: A communcation link between Kubuntu and smartphones or bluetooth/IR whatever would be nice, maybe a plasmoid :P [12:10] jaem: Nice :) Btw, what battery/standbytime does your N900 have? :P [12:10] oxymoron, Nokia's stated goal is a day (e.g. ~12hr) of mixed usage [12:10] currently, they're a bit short of that, but considering what I put mine through, I'm not surprised [12:11] ...and of course, I currently am working on setting up a second one for another member of my research team, so when the battery dies, *oh snap!* -- I pull out the other one XD [12:11] jaem: I dont refer to vendors officially forked results in labs :D I wondering a normal day use for you wit mixing wifi, bluetooth, browser, stream music and so on, what battery time? [12:11] it amuses me to no end [12:11] no, I realize [12:12] I was trying to say that that was what they were aiming for, and that they're close [12:12] jaem: Aha alright, what is it now then? xD [12:12] let's take this to PM, though, to avoid cluttering the channel === javier__ is now known as Toru [12:38] !java [12:38] To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java products search for sun-java6 -packages from the !Multiverse repository [12:46] I have to press ` twice for it to show up once. The first time it doesn't register, the second time it shows up? [12:46] Anybody know why that would happen? [12:53] does anybody know, that firefox 3.6 will be released in upcoming karmic updates? [12:55] could someone test this "easter egg" for me, i don't think it works in KDE but would like to verify: ALT+F2 to open Run Application dialogue - enter "gegls from outer space" [12:59] ZykoticK9: Nay [12:59] smellyno1er, too bad -- but thanks for checking for me [12:59] http://www.eeggs.com/items/51902.html [13:02] smellyno1er: sounds like keyboard layout problem. check settings in systemsettings > Region & Language > Keyboard Layout [13:20] Hi Folks === ocs is now known as faLUCE [13:48] есть кто живой? [13:48] нужна помощь [13:49] поставил thunderbird 2,0... [13:50] но не могу воткнуть, как русифицировать [13:51] нде [13:54] !ru [13:54] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [13:55] thank [14:10] I'm using Kubuntu Lucid. I can't see any way to connect to IRC in kopete, am I missing something?? [14:11] KDE 4.4 has just been released, anyone know a repo that I can use to install it? [14:12] bobbob1016: I think 4.4x has been made available in the backports [14:12] xteejx: ask in #ubuntu+1 [14:13] bobbob1016: its coming soon to a ppa near you - ie. dont think its been packaged yet ;) [14:14] jussi01, http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu that ppa sound right? [14:14] bobbob1016: watch the topic in here, itll change when the repo is sorted [14:14] bobbob1016: the rc 2 is out in a ppa, but not the final afaik [14:14] The topic says its in the beta PPA http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-rc-2 [14:17] It's really bugging me as well that there's no Software Centre in Kubuntu like there is in Ubuntu, everything just looks like packages, not sorted or anything, and there's no way TO sort them :( [14:17] In KPackageKit I mean [14:18] adept [14:19]