[00:00] <BUGabundo> setuid: try #ubuntu-x
[00:03] <bjsnider> guys, do not suspend or hibernate
[00:03] <BUGabundo> night everyone
[00:03] <cwillu_at_work> poek poek
[00:05] <setuid> Hrm, when did 'du' change in Lucid?
[00:05] <setuid> doesn't work at all on xfs filesystems
[00:06] <setuid> $ du -sch vmware
[00:06] <setuid> 0       vmware
[00:06] <setuid> 0       total
[00:06] <setuid> $ tree -sh vmware
[00:06] <setuid> vmware
[00:06] <setuid> |-- [   6]  mnt
[00:06] <setuid> `-- [4.9G]  Windows XP Professional-000002.vmdk
[00:21] <Pici> thanks crimsun
[01:03] <cwillu> ZykoticK9, issue was a nice combination of missing gconf schema entries and bad permissions on policykit helpers
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> cwillu, glad you got it figured out
[01:17] <h00k> I reported a bug about GDM freezing *thumbsup*
[01:24] <Volkodav> is there a way to have firefox remember the global zoom settings like in Opera ?
[01:24] <Volkodav> it is a pain to do it manually all the time
[01:49] <IDWMaster> I've been using the new PeerNetwork API for MonoDevelop and can't send more than 4KB of broadcast packets over the Internet.
[01:50] <IDWMaster> Here's my connection code
[01:50] <IDWMaster> client = PeerNetwork.connect("broadcastSvc:chat");
[01:50] <IDWMaster>                 server = PeerNetwork.connect("chat");
[01:50] <IDWMaster>                 binaryServer = PeerNetwork.connect("broadcastSvc:chatBin");
[01:50] <IDWMaster>                 binaryClient = PeerNetwork.connect("chatBin");
[01:51] <IDWMaster> Reading from the stream doesn't always work for some reason.
[01:51] <kklimonda> IDWMaster, it isn't the right channel for this question
[01:52] <IDWMaster> Which channel should I use; this hasn't happened in Earlier versions of Ubuntu
[01:53] <kklimonda> IDWMaster, there has to be some mono related channel somewhere out there
[01:53] <IDWMaster> OK. Thanks
[02:38] <vish> hmm  , is it known that the indicator applet is not working?
[02:39] <kklimonda> vish, you mean crashes in indicator-messages-service?
[02:47] <vish> kklimonda: yeah and the indication not really working properly
[02:48] <h00k> and it doesn't grab empathy
[02:49] <vish> as in not displaying the evo messages / empathy / or knowing gwibber is running :(
[03:25] <Damascene> Hello, did any one report that the main menu in UNE are black text on black background in OpenOffice
[03:26] <Damascene> I mean menu tool-bar
[03:26] <ZykoticK9> Damascene, what is UNE?
[03:26] <Damascene> Ubuntu Netbook Edition
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> Damascene, UNR is what called i believe
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu Netbook Remix
[03:27] <Damascene> I thought that they changed the name
[03:27] <Damascene> that what I've been told
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> OH, perhaps they did and i'm behind the times
[03:28] <RAOF> It is UNE now, and ooh, yes.
[03:28] <RAOF> Not *quite* black on black, but certainly black on dark grey.
[03:29] <Damascene> should I report that?
[03:31] <RAOF> Yes
[04:54] <DanaG> hmm, gdm starts amazingly quickly... but then autologin takes an annoyingly long time.
[04:55] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/
[05:01] <DanaG> weird... somehow I have xorg overlapped with my efi framebuffer console.... and anything I type is going BOTH to xorg AND to console!
[05:01] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/Screenshot-1.png
[05:01] <DanaG> weird... it thinks fgconsole is tty1.
[05:28] <DanaG> har: Console: colour dummy device 80x25
[05:32] <DanaG> hmm, any idea why my boot is so slow?
[05:32] <DanaG> or rather, login.
[05:33] <DanaG> www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/bootcharts/
[05:33] <DanaG> 5 seconds to gdm... and then a really long time to actually log in.
[05:46] <DanaG> "  * + Enable nouveau gallium for 3D support. Yay!"
[05:46] <DanaG> does that include the old-hardware one?
[05:48] <RAOF> I believe that it's included, yes.
[05:48] <DanaG> OooOOOOOOoooOOOoooooOOOooOOh!
[05:53] <DanaG> now if only I could get my laptop to log into gnome faster.
[05:53] <DanaG> And if only I could get radeon KMS to not take 46 watts on battery (yes, that's a heck of a lot of power... considering fglrx can bring it down to a minimum of 17 watts).
[05:58] <Damascene> I'm unable to change the theme of UNE
[06:10] <DanaG> oh yeah, anyone have tips for what would make my system start Gnome so slowly?
[06:46] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f666238a1
[06:46] <DanaG> argh
[06:46] <DanaG> stupid sata lockups!
[06:47] <Damascene> can any one change his theme in lucid?
[08:00] <Damascene> can some one test this?
[08:00] <Damascene> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/checkbox/+bug/516555
[08:03] <Viper1432> Damascene,  when did you have problems with this?  very recently?  I did the system tests two days ago and no issues in that area.
[08:04] <kermiac> roughly how often does it bypass the audio tests?
[08:05] <Damascene> try to chose previous after you do some tests
[08:05] <Damascene> then try to test again it will pass the audio test I guess
[08:05]  * kermiac has a look\\
[08:07] <Damascene> Viper1432, I'm having it now
[08:08] <Viper1432> Will check that one tomorrow.  Its almost close the bloodshot eyes time over here.  :)
[08:10] <Damascene> kermiac, did you test that?
[08:11] <kermiac> ok, that's strange
[08:11] <kermiac> when I skipped back through the tests it was ok...
[08:12] <kermiac> but skipping all the way back to the start & then hitting skip bypasses all sound tests
[08:12] <kermiac> do we know if this is by design? i.e. it skips the audio tests as checkbox believes they have already been performed
[08:14] <kermiac> when it skipped the audio tests I was able to select previous & cycle through the sound tests again
[08:14] <Viper1432> seems an odd design if so, imho, going back should reset the actions so that each step is available again.
[08:15] <DanaG> hmm, ubuntu's plymouth theme needs some work: there's no indication of whether the system is even alive!
[08:15] <kermiac> yeah, I was playing with it some more & I tend to agree that going back to the start should reset
[08:16] <kermiac> anyway, I'm going to have some dinner but I will compare it with what happens in karmic after dinner
[08:16] <Viper1432> yep, same result on my lappie over here.  gonna "same here" that launchpad bug Damascene  put up.
[08:20] <DanaG> compiz (core) - Fatal: Support for non power of two textures missing
[08:20] <DanaG> nvidia fail!
[08:21] <DanaG> Can't run jack-diddly-squat without NPOT.
[08:28] <DanaG> How did nvidia's binary drivers manage to run compiz on that junk?
[08:28] <DanaG> har... geforce3 is opengl 1.3.... and geforce "4" mx.... is opengl 1.2.
[08:28] <DanaG> Numbering fail.
[08:29] <DanaG> same's true for dx8 and dx7, respectively.
[08:40] <DanaG> libGL error: XF86DRIAuthConnection failed
[08:54] <om26er> !info telepathy-haze
[08:55] <om26er> can any one test if yahoo goes to invisible ?
[09:01] <Viper1432> doesn't over here om26er .  there's a bug out about empathy not doing the invisible thing with a couple different accounts.  It just sets as "busy".  tried it earlier today, same result.
[10:06] <Machtin> hi guys.. i really need help with this problem: while booting i have to alt+print+k to get to a shell, because otherwise the system hangs.. no clue why, but hey - it's alpha.
[10:06] <Machtin> when i do startx (start kdm won't work either) i have my graphical surface.. but i have no clue how to get my hostname resolving working..
[10:07] <Machtin> i can build connections via ips, but not via hostnames..
[10:08] <Machtin> and this is the question: how can i make it work again?
[10:12] <kermiac> Machtin: try removing the "quiet" option from your boot options
[10:12] <kermiac> bah, don't remember the correct terminology
[10:13] <Machtin> i know what you mean
[10:13] <Machtin> didn't seem to help though, when i tried that
[10:14] <Machtin> or do you just want me to see more output?
[10:14] <alex88> good morning, i've installed lucid, but after updates, nvidia drivers, the screen shows a small black line on the top, and i can't do anything.. any clue?
[10:15] <alex88> i've tried to uninstall drivers with recovery mode but it doesn't change anything
[10:17] <kermiac> Machtin: to see where it hangs.... also other have had more luck with "acpi=off" switch
[10:17] <kermiac> other/other people (missed a word, lol)
[10:18] <Machtin> can i somehow change that from within my system?
[10:18] <Machtin> because i don't like the quiet option anyway.. but grub.cfg seems to be read only.. i don't know whether i'm supposed to edit it
[10:19] <kermiac> if you hold shift during boot (possibly has to be left shift) then highlight your current kernel & press "e" you can add or remove boot options/switchs
[10:20] <Machtin> i have 10s timeout.. i just need e :)
[10:20] <Machtin> just thought i could change it permanentely
[10:20] <kermiac> then you need to press "b" to boot using the modified  boot parameters.
[10:20] <kermiac> yes, you can but I forget how :(
[10:20] <Machtin> ctrl+x actually, it's grub 2 :/
[10:21]  * kermiac is still a grub2 n00b
[10:21] <kermiac> ;)
[10:21] <Machtin> i don't like it either.. :/
[10:22] <kermiac> hang on, i'll try to dig up the info on how to do it permanantly - but you may want to test it first to see if it works
[10:23] <Machtin> thanks! i will.. but for now i'd rather like to know where to set my dns-server
[10:25] <kermiac> Machtin: just search for "permanent" in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:25] <kermiac> oh, you can't do it through network-manager? I use dhcp
[10:25] <Machtin> kermiac: that might turn out difficult without having a nameserver to resolve help.ubuntu.com
[10:25] <Machtin> i use dhcp too
[10:25] <kermiac> you want the IP? ;)
[10:26] <Machtin> no, my router would be fine as dns-server
[10:26] <Machtin> buuuut.. knetworkmanager won't run (i'm on KDE)
[10:26] <kermiac> oh, sorry mate - I don't use KDE
[10:27] <Machtin> well.. i'll try that non-quiet thing.
[10:27] <Machtin> one more thing.. "acpi=off".. where do i add this?
[10:27] <kermiac> ok, good luck :)
[10:27] <Machtin> the same place where i remove the "quiet"?
[10:27] <kermiac> yup
[10:28] <kermiac> just add it to the end of the line
[10:28] <Machtin> aye, thanks a lot :) might be back soon! ;)
[10:28] <kermiac> good luck
[10:28] <kermiac> hope to see you soon :)
[10:33] <kermiac> ok, that's it from me for tonight. Good night all :)
[10:38] <alex88> ok, if someone can help me, take a look at http://yfrog.com/07schermatazp then, after some keystrokes the dots on the top increase in size: http://yfrog.com/1aschermata1clp
[10:39] <alex88> and if i press enter the gdm hangs up and if i type somthing the lines on the top increase in size
[10:39] <alex88> like a strange command line on the top
[10:39] <alex88> but if i logout->relogin it works fine..any clue?
[10:39] <Machtin> hm.. back and still not having dns.
[11:02] <alex88> btw, in pidgin where can i found the option to just minimize in tray clicking on the x?
[11:04] <ZykoticK9> machtin over here!  java
[11:04] <Machtin> okay :)
[11:05] <Machtin> you mean it's "java" as a package name?
[11:05] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, no one second
[11:07] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, items of interest include: default-jre, openjdk-6-jre, and for browsers icedtea6-plugin (not sure about the default-jre, just saw that now)
[11:07] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, openjdk-6 is the quasi-dropin replacement for sun i believe
[11:07] <Machtin> thanks :) i'll try
[11:08] <Machtin> i see.
[11:08] <Machtin> trying to run a java-application
[11:08] <ZykoticK9> guess in this channel nicks aren't so important
[11:08] <Machtin> now that works :) thanks a lot! you made my day.
[11:08] <ZykoticK9> :) glad to help
[11:09] <Machtin> hehe, that might be right
[11:09] <ZykoticK9> any other question for right now?
[11:09] <Machtin> nope, thanks
[11:10] <ZykoticK9> i'll be in #ubuntu - feel free to PM me if you wish - take care
[11:10] <Machtin> you too! thanks :)
[11:14] <petsounds> hi. it seems like dolphin can't mount my second hdd. http://is.gd/807gV any clue? thanks
[11:24] <ZykoticK9> petsounds, i don't use KDE, but the error at the bottom refers to HAL - hasn't HAL been removed from Lucid?
[11:25] <petsounds> ZykoticK9, i installed kde on top of ubuntu. idk if this causing the problem.
[11:26] <ZykoticK9> petsounds, idk either???
[11:39] <BUGabundo_work> brOas
[13:02] <coz_> so where are we with nvidia drivers?
[13:03] <BUGabundo_work> no idea
[13:03] <BUGabundo_work> been using nouvuoe
[13:03] <coz_> BUGabundo_work,  oh!  how is that for you?
[13:04] <BUGabundo_work> it works
[13:04] <BUGabundo_work> which is a *good thing* TM
[13:04] <coz_> BUGabundo_work,  yeah   no 3d  though :(
[13:13] <BUGabundo_work> coz_: wrong. theres inicial 3D support
[13:13] <BUGabundo_work> thats why i0m using it
[13:14] <coz_> BUGabundo_work,  oh!  didnt realize...I havent kept up with it's development
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:23] <coz_> so has anyone tried the nvidia drivers in hardware drivers or manual install without disaster?
[13:24] <BUGabundo_work> wb BluesKaj
[13:24] <BUGabundo_work> coz_: i dont even seem them there
[13:26] <coz_> BUGabundo_work,  they are showing up here  ... I tried them twice  ...boots to black screen ..reinstalled each time  tried manual install...they work until I do anything then system freeze
[13:26] <ZykoticK9> coz_, on the 2nd or 3rd i was able to successfully install the nvidia drivers from the Hardware Driver (jockey) window - i still have working 3d with nvidia - but it seem most in the channel do not?!?!
[13:27] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  that's interesting... which card do you have?
[13:27]  * yofel  has working nvidia drivers, installed from cli though
[13:27] <yofel> GF 7300GT
[13:28] <coz_> yoasif,  manual install?  didnt work here
[13:28] <ZykoticK9> coz_, nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce 8800 GT] (rev a2)
[13:28] <BluesKaj> as do I
[13:28] <yofel> coz_: you set the correct driver in xorg.conf? cli installation won't do that alone
[13:28] <BluesKaj> coz_, which card ? I'll give a ppa URL
[13:28] <coz_> BluesKaj,   on the lucid system it is  6600gt
[13:29] <coz_> I dont want to make it sound like I cant wait :)    I have this system with karmic  so...  :)
[13:30] <BluesKaj> coz_, you should be fine with the new 195 driver https://launchpad.net/~albertomilone/+archive/proprietary-video-improvements
[13:30] <BluesKaj> dunno if it works with karmic
[13:31] <coz_> BluesKaj,   ok ..yeah I have that link   but  I dont need it with karmic.... there I manually install :)
[13:31] <BluesKaj> prbly does , come to think of it there arte several choices on the page
[13:31] <coz_> as I said its not really a big deal.... I can wait... just thought I would ask and report my experience
[13:32] <coz_> I think the only "big" issue I will have is if sun java is not going to be available via repository
[13:36] <ZykoticK9> coz_, will "openjdk-6-jre" and the browser plugin "icedtea6-plugin" not suit your needs?
[13:37] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  absolutely not :)  I am not and will never be a big fan of openjdk
[13:38] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  the ONLY reason I started on ubuntu years ago from BeOs is that I could install sun java
[13:38] <coz_> other wise I would still be on Be :)
[13:38] <ZykoticK9> coz_, ya - i don't understand why they removed Sun's java, doesn't make sense to me...
[13:39] <coz_> ZykoticK9,   hopefully there will be a repository for it... otherwise  I guess manual install....
[13:39] <coz_> again
[13:39] <coz_> :)
[13:39] <ZykoticK9> coz_, the fact that BeOS doesn't exist anymore might also play a part ;)
[13:39] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  not really since haiku  is now out
[13:39] <ZykoticK9> coz_, have you tried haiku?
[13:40] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  yep  its real nice  :)
[13:40] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  too bad compiz doesnt work on it :)
[13:40] <ZykoticK9> coz_, i ran it under VirtualBox and was not impressed - to each his own i guess :)
[13:40] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  it is pretty much like Be  so it wasnt dissapointing much
[13:41] <ZykoticK9> coz_, i'm just trying to compare Haiku vs Lucid and for me there is NO contest there at all
[13:43] <coz_> ZykoticK9,  for sure... I cant do without compiz  and have been with ubuntu since the beginning pretty much  ... but still have a Bebox here when I need to "look back' ")
[13:43] <ZykoticK9> coz_, :)
[13:44] <jastor> ok ... you got tools and everything to move the isos to a usbstick to boot and install from
[13:44] <om26er_> !test
[13:45] <jastor> heres the fun part: the harddrive thats supposed to be sda  ... becomes sdb :) and ubiquity only allows installing grub to sda ;)
[13:46] <jastor> for me its no problem, i can isntall grub to sdb manually .. but the ubiquity needs to be fixed for the rest
[13:46] <Machtin> any reason not to buy a xonar dx-sound card?
[13:49] <jastor> unless you want people to have to have their usbstick connected everytime they want to boot :)
[13:52] <Machtin> i guess that was not an answer for me? :D
[13:54] <jastor> oh but ffs :P
[13:58] <BluesKaj> Machtin, does use a common chip ?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> it
[14:00] <Machtin> i have no clue.
[14:01] <Machtin> google says AV100 <-
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Machtin, I would definitely do some research on it , it's new to me , I ve never heard anyone ask about that card before
[14:03] <Machtin> i found a thread on ubuntuusers.. someone says it runs out of the box on intrepid
[14:04] <Machtin> and on 9.10..
[14:04] <Machtin> well.. i'll just try - if not, i can still send it back.
[14:04] <BluesKaj> it's a fairly decent soundcard from the reports , but will it run on alsa is the question
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Machtin, not installed yet ?
[14:05] <Machtin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779837&page=2 <- that's what i was talking about
[14:05] <Machtin> no, just wondered whether to buy it.
[14:06] <Machtin> and i just ordered it on amazon.. so i'll see in the next few days :)
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Machtin, one quote is encourageing "Ubuntu 9.10 x86-64 the Xonar DX (the pci-e version) works brilliantly."
[14:08] <Machtin> yup
[14:08] <BluesKaj> sounds like a nice card
[14:08] <Machtin> i hope it will work without any effort.. because i had problems with sound quite often.. and i never figured out how to solve them myself.. *sigh*
[14:09] <Machtin> i hope it is :) especially for <60eur
[14:09] <Machtin> the only thing it lacks is eax 5.. but i hardly play games these days.. so i guess i won't mind.
[14:10] <BluesKaj> depends on your speaker setup
[14:10] <Machtin> 5.1, analog
[14:11] <Machtin> plus.. i don't have eax5 right now.. and never really missed it (which might be because i don't know how good or bad it is)
[14:12] <Machtin> however.. i prefer giving money to asus over giving it to creative.. :P
[14:12] <BluesKaj> I do most of my listening in our tv room where the sound system is set up ... my computer has just 2 creative labs gigaworks T40 speakers connected to a CMedia sound card
[14:13] <Machtin> i think i don't have a good enough hearing to be able to tell the difference between a good and a very good card, to be honest.
[14:13] <BluesKaj> I use our Tivo as a networked server
[14:14] <Machtin> sounds nice :)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> for media
[14:14] <xteejx> Using Kubuntu Lucid... has IRC been removed from kopete I can't find how to connect (using Konversation at the mo)
[14:14] <BluesKaj> xteejx, stick with konverstaion :)
[14:15] <Machtin> or switch to irssi ;)
[14:15] <xteejx> BluesKaj: Looks like I'll have to, quassel doesn't even connect
[14:15] <Machtin> well, thanks BluesKaj :) i'm off for now.
[14:15] <Machtin> see you guys.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Machtin, oh you will be surprised , there is a diff in sound quality
[14:16] <xteejx> It's really bugging me as well that there's no Software Centre in Kubuntu like there is in Ubuntu, everything just looks like packages, not sorted or anything, and there's no way TO sort them :(
[14:16] <xteejx> oops wrong channel I think :
[14:16] <xteejx> :)
[14:18] <BluesKaj> xteejx, look in the menu for adept installer
[14:25] <Damascene> any one using UNE?
[14:30]  * xteejx is away: Gone away for now
[14:36] <BUGabundo> wb akgraner
[14:42]  * xteejx is back.
[14:43] <gnomefreak> no your not
[14:44] <BUGabundo> ahah
[15:43] <pilch> Um, question. I just upgraded to lucid, and now my Xorg colors are dark. It's bizarre. The mouse pointer is nice and bright, but everything else greenish...? Any suggestions?
[15:49] <pilch> Any ideas why X would look so weird?
[15:52] <CardinalFang> pilch, Hrm.  No idea.  Have you played with gamma settings?
[15:52] <pilch> not yet. Would the affect only the screen and not the mouse pointer?
[15:53] <pilch> well, I'll try it. bbiab.
[16:24] <h00k> Turns out I wasn't the only one having the problem apparently with plymouth and the [enter] key
[16:26] <BUGabundo> lololol
[16:26] <BUGabundo> you think?
[16:27] <h00k> BUGabundo: yarly.
[17:04]  * DanaG is reading backlog.
[17:05] <DanaG> Speaking of Xonar... I really wish Asus would make an ExpressCard version.
[17:08] <DanaG> oh, and nvidia fail: can't do compiz on the nv17 -- no NPOT support.
[17:09] <bubulein> hi, im running lucid with grub1. i cant boot to windows. ehen i select eindoes a message - Starting up... appears and then the system stops. ( my partitiontable sda1 windows extended, sda2 ubuntu, sda3 swap, sda4 ntfs data, sda5 windowsinstallation xp) a snipped of my menue.lst can be found here http://pastebin.org/88948
[17:12] <bubulein> i try to fix the bootmenue via ssh cause my friend is blind and we have to fix such thing with a webcam and other strange tools. perhaps someone can suggest me another bootmanger. but i prefer grub legacy cause i can add a BEEP to the menue to make it acceesible
[17:15] <bubulein> currently i get the message "Starting up..." while try to boot windows
[17:15] <ChogyDan> !daily
[17:18] <BUGabundo> bubulein: time to upgrade to grub2 ?
[17:19] <BUGabundo> ahh the beep
[17:19] <BUGabundo> have u filed a bug on that?
[17:28] <gnomefreak> /w/win 10
[17:33] <bubulein> BUGabundo: i need grub cause the user is blind and i cant get grub2 to work for accessebility
[17:33] <bubulein> BUGabundo: no bugreport. npow i have find the right settings. to repirt the bootmenue
[17:34] <bubulein> BUGabundo: some told me that i can use the applicatin play from sox to play a sound while choosing the right system
[17:34] <bubulein> BUGabundo: on grub legacy i can enable the beep by adding hexcode to menue.lst
[17:40] <CosmiChaos> howto undo that: sudo mke2fs -m 0 /dev/ram0
[17:42] <CosmiChaos> i created a ramdisk via ext2-method for testing purpose and now removed the script, the autostart-entry, unmounten the device und removed the mountpoint.
[17:42] <CosmiChaos> i just need to know how to stop it reserving kernel-memory, just removing the kernel mode line wont fix it
[17:49] <Volkodav> anybody experienced sudden freeze of keyboard and mouse after recent uprgade today ?
[17:50] <Volkodav> it happened 3 times already on 64 bit in xfce
[18:05] <CosmiChaos> Does the tracker-applet icon still exists in Lucid?
[18:06] <CosmiChaos> i mean a systray-icon??
[18:08] <billybigrigger> systray icon?
[18:09] <billybigrigger> tracker-applet?
[18:13] <CosmiChaos> billybigrigger yep there was a nice icon for tracker-applet (the search and indexing process) where you certainly hadfew more options than the configurations in systempreferences via rightclick
[18:14] <billybigrigger> well i dont remember seeing that in any default install
[18:14] <billybigrigger> and it's definitely not included on lucid default install
[18:24] <billybigrigger> anyone here using shredder 3.1? (thunderbird) from mozilla daily ppa?
[18:25] <metricpiano> I've got a bug that is reported in launchpad as affecting 9.10 and marked "triaged", but my just updated version of lucid contains the bug... what is the proper way/thing to report to lauchpad?
[18:25] <metricpiano> bug 471385 in launchpad
[18:28] <arvind_khadri> metricpiano, just reopen that bug, and change the package version
[18:29] <arvind_khadri> sorry i mean ubuntu's version
[18:30] <billybigrigger> hah, since when was a wireless connection to my router faster at sending files than wired????
[18:30] <billybigrigger> 2.7MB/sec with my wireless card, and 1.3MB/sec over ethernet
[18:31] <billybigrigger> sending the same file
[18:32] <metricpiano> I can change the status from triaged to something else, and I don't see reopen or anywhere to change the package
[18:38] <yofel> metricpiano: the proper channel for that would be #ubuntu-bugs, you should mark the bug as affecting you and maybe it would be a good idea to set the upstream task to 'Confirmed'
[18:38] <yofel> leave the ubuntu task as 'triaged'
[18:40] <metricpiano> yofel: thanks, i made a comment in launchpad but I'll see if #ubuntu-bugs wants me to to provide anything else.
[18:40] <yofel> metricpiano: you didn't set the bug as affecting you
[18:41] <yofel> metricpiano: also: the bug IS triaged in lucid as lucid has the same version as karmic. It's just not fixed yet
[18:44] <metricpiano> yofel: I guess I dont' understand what triaged means then... triaged means it won't crash/destroy system, fixed means it will actually work?
[18:44] <yofel> no, triaged means: Bug ready to be looked at by a developer
[18:45] <yofel> so all information that is needed to work on the bug is there
[18:45] <yofel> in *this* case it means the developers were informed of the bug
[18:45] <yofel> no it's their job to take care of it
[18:46] <yofel> metricpiano: that's why it might be a good idea to set the upstream status to confirmed
[18:46] <yofel> (where it says 'New' right now)
[18:47] <metricpiano> so I changed "New" to "confirmed"... this is "changing the upstream status to confirmed"
[18:47] <metricpiano> ?
[18:48] <yofel> yes, the first bug task is for the 'Simple Backup' Project while the second one is for the package in Ubuntu. When a Project task exists the status should be tracked there
[18:52] <metricpiano> OK, thanks... I want to help by reporting but I don't want to add a bunch of chaff or misinformation and I'm not really clear on the whole launchpad thing (obviously)
[19:39] <NateW> Did a recent update in lucid and now if i press enter, either the normal key or the one on the keypad, my computer will completely lock up. If i press enter on a virtual keyboard such as onboard, no issues.
[19:44] <NateW> anyone have an idea as to why [Enter] may cause ubuntu to freeze?
[19:45] <CosmiChaos> left or right (numpad)?
[19:46] <NateW> CosmiChaos: both do the same thing, using onboard is the only way i am able to press enter
[19:47] <CosmiChaos> what do you mean by onboard?
[19:48] <NateW> (virtual keyboard included with ubuntu)
[19:48] <CosmiChaos> ah i got an idea- on-screen-leyboard
[19:49] <CosmiChaos> NateW, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/516412
[19:50] <NateW> happened again, had to reboot.. onboard is the virtual keyboard.. and thanks for the bug forward
[19:50] <CosmiChaos> can that be what you reffering to? (same behaviour=)
[19:51] <NateW> seems to be.. im going to try the workaround they suggest and see what happens
[19:52] <CosmiChaos> does anyone got plymouth showing bootlogo with nvidia-hardware on nouveau driver?
[19:52] <NateW> CosmiChaos: awesome.. that is it. thanks for your help
[19:52] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, it's working here
[19:53] <CosmiChaos> well i just google enter ubuntu lucid freeze :)
[19:53] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, sorry no - i'm not using nouveau - sorry
[19:53] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, what is your exact hardware please?
[19:53] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, you have plymouth showing bootlogo WITHOUT nouveau? how did you do that?
[19:53] <NateW>  CosmiChaos: true, should have tried that :P
[19:54] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, including the blue scroll bar
[19:54] <CosmiChaos> NateW, well i had to follow a bug dublicate but that was it
[19:54] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, see i have the kernel mode line "quiet splash" in /etc/grub/default and i run nvidia hardware
[19:55] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, while booting i only see console text smashing down the screen
[19:56] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, so i installed the nouveau stuff and once it worked after an distupgrade
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, on the 2nd or 3rd i install Nvidia using the Jockey interface and I have almost no issues with Nvidia (although now i do typically have to alt+sysrq+k on first attempt of GDM)
[19:56] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, but now its broke again and i have no idea how to get a bootlogo back at all
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, nor do i - haven't had issues with it, so haven't had to "look" at it...  best of luck
[19:57] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, see i refer the bootlogo splash of plymouth, not gdm login designthemes
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, the Ubuntu logo
[19:57] <CosmiChaos> yes
[19:57] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, and that weird blue scroll just prior to GDM
[19:58] <CosmiChaos> i guess thats the new performance monitoring
[19:58] <apo_lap> hi
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, i'm actually going to reboot now and have a look, hopefully i'll brb ;)
[19:58] <CosmiChaos> but for me its tri-color, dark blue, light blue and white
[19:58] <apo_lap> do you know if it works to remove hal from a kubuntu lucid install?
[19:58] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, ya - same here
[19:59] <apo_lap> it has still many dependencies
[19:59] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, first time it took very long but after that it quickly boots
[20:00] <CosmiChaos> apo_lap, isnt hal removed in lucid by default?
[20:00] <apo_lap> dont know, i use an updated system from jaunty-karmic-lucid
[20:00] <apo_lap> so it should work to remove hal?
[20:01] <CosmiChaos> when you upgrade to alpha, you are definetly on a alpha no matter if you upgraded from previous version or installed from scratch apo_lap
[20:02] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, ok - so ONLY get the blue thing - no Ubuntu logo, sorry if i misled you at all
[20:02] <CosmiChaos> it should have removed hal during upgrade, doesnt it?
[20:02] <apo_lap> i didnt get you i think. i wonder if i might ran into problems when i remove hal. right now itsd instzalled and running
[20:02] <apo_lap> ah, okay
[20:02] <apo_lap> no it didnt for me
[20:03] <apo_lap> perhaps its realted to KDE?
[20:05] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, lets get more company :)
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, i don't get up???
[20:05] <ZykoticK9> s/up/it
[20:08] <CosmiChaos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKKIifkZYk - 17 Sec - Plymouth-Splash, through KMS (nouveau). I definetly saw it working on my mashine, several times.
[20:10] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, at one time or another i believe i had that ubuntu logo as well
[20:10] <CosmiChaos> try that, does it work? sudo plymouth --show-splash
[20:11] <CosmiChaos> run "sudo plymouthd" before
[20:11] <blueyed> Does "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" work for you? It does not come up for me again.. bug 511753 - how can I temporarily disable networking and get it up again?
[20:12] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, to stop it if it works run: "sudo killall plymouthd"
[20:12] <crimsun> blueyed: that isn't sufficient,as the new semantics involve restarting network-manager as well
[20:13] <CosmiChaos> ZykoticK9, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/509328
[20:13] <blueyed> crimsun: I have no network-manager running.. so, how is a restart possible?
[20:14] <crimsun> blueyed: oh, so you removed it completely? (or disabled)
[20:14] <blueyed> crimsun: guess so, since I don't need it.
[20:14] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, so plymouthd is running but "sudo plymouth --show-splash" doesn't do anything (should i be rebooting?) http://paste.ubuntu.com/372708/
[20:15] <crimsun> blueyed: please attach your interfaces(5) to that report
[20:15] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, oops so perhaps plymouthd is NOT running!  duhh
[20:15] <crimsun> (sanitised as necessary, of course)
[20:16] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, ok NOW i can say plymouthd IS running and --show-splash does nothing
[20:18] <CosmiChaos> search synaptic for nouveau and install related packages, ill check if the feature works on generic (because i run PREEMPT)
[20:19] <blueyed> crimsun: I've updated the description - very basic IMHO. I could attach the output of the restart action as well, but that would require another reboot afterwards probably.
[20:19] <ZykoticK9> CosmiChaos, sorry man, i'm not touching my proprietary Nvidia right now (it's working too well) and certain vocal members of this channel scare me away from messing with Nvidia right now
[20:21] <bjsnider> which vocal members?
[20:21] <ZykoticK9> i'm not going to mention any name (not you bjsnider, if that's what your wondering)
[20:23] <bjsnider> i'm not wandering, i'm sitting down
[20:23] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, I'm still annoyed that kde isn't keeping up with proper plugins for linux browsers to play video content other than flash it seems ...I have all the proper plugins for the video on nasa.gov , but they don't load
[20:24] <BluesKaj> with gnome these sites work well
[20:25] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, i haven't used KDE in years - you've just given me another reason not to return ;)  Good luck man
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, just ya - nasa.gov seems to be working ok for me - gnome/chrome
[20:26] <ZykoticK9> watching some boring clip right now...
[20:27] <ZykoticK9> the launch from the other night would be cool - gonna search for it
[20:28] <BluesKaj> it's there
[20:28] <ZykoticK9> watching it :)
[20:28] <BluesKaj> nasa.gov/home
[20:31] <crimsun> blueyed: will look later tonight; busy with another source ATM
[20:37] <apo_lap> uhm, re. i just removed hal. now KDE sees no battery and ac. powermanagement backend is still set to hal. where is my mistake? is there a new backend to install?
[20:51] <bjsnider> finished building vlc with vaapi acceleration
[20:51] <bjsnider> it works but it's not as efficient as "pure" vdpau
[20:52] <bjsnider> still, it's better to have it than to not have it
[20:55] <phoenixz> Im running Kubuntu Lucid 10.04, aplha2, out of necesity (9.04 and 9.10 DON'T work on my laptop).. all works very very great, kudos for KDE! Only problem I have is that my auto hiding taskbar, well.. For some reason it stays in hiding, I cant get it to show up anymore.. Is there a way I force the taskbar to show up again? Maybe using DCOP or something?
[20:58] <marienz> is it intentional that I can't drag windows to a different workspace (by dragging "through" the edge of the screen) in compiz?
[21:07] <apo_lap> uhm, re. i just removed hal. now KDE sees no battery and ac. powermanagement backend is still set to hal. where is my mistake? is there a new backend to install?
[22:59] <Bookman> Anyone know if there is a problem with the Wicd network manager recently, like after yesterdays updates?  I cannot connect via wired or wireless anymore.
[23:02] <Yorvik> Bookman: I was about to ask the same question
[23:03] <Bookman> Yorvik, Oh great then there must be an issue.
[23:04] <Yorvik> Bookman:  Can’t believe we’re the only two though
[23:05] <Bookman> maybe the rest don't have an alternative computer to be able to get on the network!
[23:05] <charlie-tca> I use static ip's without any network manager
[23:05]  * charlie-tca and on desktops
[23:06] <Bookman> charlie-tca, this is for a laptop.  Wireless
[23:06] <Yorvik> I got round it on the desktop by using static IP
[23:08] <Bookman> I will try that on my laptop wired, then see if there are any more current updates.
[23:09] <Yorvik> I only updated this machine an hour ago
[23:16] <Volkodav> anybody noticed X freeze hitting Enter after command &
[23:17] <charlie-tca> I have avoided that bug, but it seems popular right now.
[23:20] <Volkodav> anybody?
[23:23] <Bookman> Ok, setting static worked on the laptop for a wired connection.  I updated and rebooted but still no wireless connection.  Wicd gets stuck trying to obtain an IP address.  It sees the router but cannot connect to it.  I guess that laptop is out of commission until fixed sometime in the future.
[23:24] <infecto> Bookman: maybe you have been added smth in /etc/network/interfaces manualy?
[23:25] <Bookman> infecto, it worked yesterday
[23:25] <infecto> ah, so. Ok.
[23:33] <Yorvik> Bookman:  That’s the problem - can’t obtain IP address
[23:34] <Bookman> Yorvik, seems to be.
[23:36] <BluesKaj> seems to be a common problem wicd in lucid
[23:38] <Bookman> Yeah, I'd file a bug in launchpad, but I've never figured out how to do one manually.
[23:39] <BluesKaj> well, karmic too for that matter
[23:40] <Yorvik> Bookman:  against what?
[23:41] <Bookman> Yorvik, That is the whole problem!  I have no idea where/how/what to file.
[23:41] <Bookman> I'm just reading the documentation now....
[23:43] <Yorvik> dhcp3-client  was upgraded  (3.1.3-1ubuntu3, 3.1.3-2ubuntu1)
[23:44] <charlie-tca> Bookman: here is a pretty good template to use to file manually - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Bug-Report-Layout
[23:44] <Yorvik> dhcp3-common was also upgraded (3.1.3-1ubuntu3, 3.1.3-2ubuntu1)
[23:45] <charlie-tca> You could report it against 'wicd' as the source package
[23:49] <Bookman> charlie-tca, yes, I'm there now.
[23:57] <Yorvik> Bookman: It’s working again for me there has been another upgrade to dhcop-client and dhcp-common
[23:58] <BluesKaj> Yorvik, laptop or /
[23:58] <BluesKaj> ?
[23:59] <Yorvik> Desktop
[23:59] <BluesKaj> wicd with wifi Yorvik ?