| LLStarks | asac. woe is me. 3.6.2 dailies are still not being built against cairo. | 02:56 |
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| LLStarks | fta, is there a problem with the build system? | 02:57 |
| LLStarks | micahg. sup. | 04:09 |
| micahg | hi LLStarks | 04:21 |
| micahg | [reed]: sqlite check failure w/3.6.22 | 04:53 |
| noaXess | hi all | 06:49 |
| noaXess | need i add ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to get ff3.6 or will it be in norma updates of (k)ubuntu karmic? | 06:50 |
| mahfouz_ | noaXess, probly will not be in karmic updates | 06:53 |
| mahfouz_ | since it hasn't been yet | 06:53 |
| noaXess | okay.. so add this ppa.. | 06:54 |
| mahfouz_ | yeah, check the ppas | 06:54 |
| mahfouz_ | or download from mozilla directly | 06:54 |
| mahfouz_ | will be in lucid though | 06:54 |
| mahfouz_ | http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=firefox | 06:54 |
| noaXess | how is the name of ff3.6 from the mozillateam ppa? still firefox or any other name?.. as in ppa of mozilla daily builds? | 06:58 |
| mahfouz_ | which ppa? | 06:58 |
| mahfouz_ | check the websites of the ppas, it's all there | 06:58 |
| mahfouz_ | dunno which one you mean in particular | 06:58 |
| noaXess | just minute.. updating ff | 07:00 |
| noaXess | need a reboot. | 07:01 |
| mahfouz_ | no | 07:01 |
| noaXess | wil back soon.. kernel update.. | 07:01 |
| mahfouz_ | just a restart | 07:01 |
| mahfouz_ | oh | 07:01 |
| noaXess | :) | 07:01 |
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| asac | !info libdbusmenu-glib1 | 10:12 |
| asac | !info libdbusmenu-glib1 lucid | 10:12 |
| ubottu | Package libdbusmenu-glib1 does not exist in karmic | 10:12 |
| ubottu | libdbusmenu-glib1 (source: libdbusmenu): Menus over DBus shared library for glib. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.3-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 20 kB, installed size 100 kB | 10:13 |
| Milos_SD | Hi | 11:37 |
| Milos_SD | I see there is todays build of Firefox 3.7 on PPA page | 11:37 |
| Milos_SD | but I didn't get any update for it in past 2 days :S | 11:38 |
| Milos_SD | what can be the problem? | 11:38 |
| Milos_SD | I see now | 11:39 |
| Milos_SD | build faild for 64bit :( | 11:39 |
| BUGabundo_work | brOas | 11:39 |
| noaXess | since i have ff 3.6 from mozillateam ppa, i haven't sun-java6-plugin enabled.. it is installed but not in firefox.. if i go to http://www.java.com/de/download/installed.jsp and check java version, ff means to install the plugin, i try so.. an get the message that sun-java6-plugin is allready installed... any idea how to get java plugin back to ff 3.6? | 12:42 |
| noaXess | ok goit it working.. | 13:01 |
| noaXess | see here.. german solution: https://libertalia.eu/blog/floeschie/2010/01/java-plugin-fuer-firefox-36-unter-ubuntu-linux-karmic | 13:01 |
| noaXess | sudo update-alternatives --set mozilla-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so | 13:01 |
| noaXess | can this posted somewhere on the ppa.. or can the mozillateam this include in a next update? | 13:13 |
| BUGabundo_work | noaXess: Lucid no longer has SUN Java | 13:14 |
| noaXess | BUGabundo_work: ?? and what does lucid has? openjdk? | 13:14 |
| BUGabundo_work | yes | 13:15 |
| BUGabundo_work | which, AFAIK, doesnt have a browser plugin, yet | 13:15 |
| BUGabundo_work | but micah has more info on that | 13:15 |
| noaXess | okay.. so i cqn use openjdk also now. right? | 13:18 |
| noaXess | can ^ | 13:18 |
| noaXess | now have enabled java-6-openjdk.. but ff3.6 plugin won't work.. how to get it up with openjdk? | 13:22 |
| noaXess | plugin is installed: dpkg -l | grep icedtea -> ii icedtea6-plugin 6b16-1.6.1-3ubuntu1 | 13:22 |
| and` | fta: around? | 13:43 |
| and` | BUGabundo: hey | 13:44 |
| BUGabundo | hey and` | 13:45 |
| and` | BUGabundo: do you know if setting up latest gwibber on Debian sid / squeeze is possible? (dependencies are badly messed up) | 13:45 |
| BUGabundo | yes they were | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo | i used Hardy repos | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo | *PPA | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo | used to at least start | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo | no idea about the new 2.9x version | 13:46 |
| BUGabundo | havent tested it | 13:46 |
| and` | k, thanks, will give it a try | 13:46 |
| gnomefreak | who is here? | 14:28 |
| asac | me | 14:28 |
| asac | hi gnomefreak | 14:28 |
| gnomefreak | :) | 14:29 |
| gnomefreak | hi asac | 14:29 |
| asac | BUGabundo: and`: latest gwibber doesnt work in hardy afaik | 14:30 |
| asac | i would hope karmic is close enough to squeeze | 14:31 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i am going to try to make the meeting. I have to see my accountant at 9:00am not sure how long it will take. ATM there is no agenda. | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | i should be here before 9:00 | 14:32 |
| asac | gnomefreak: we have a meeting date? | 14:32 |
| asac | hmm | 14:32 |
| asac | when is that? | 14:32 |
| gnomefreak | asac: thursday @ 16:00UTC | 14:33 |
| gnomefreak | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings | 14:33 |
| asac | ok | 14:34 |
| * asac adds calendar entry | 14:34 | |
| BUGabundo | gnomefreak: i'm, sometimes | 14:36 |
| gnomefreak | we should really have a way to add wikis as an .ical but have it as "you choose" what ones you want | 14:36 |
| gnomefreak | ok there is a very good chance i will get locked up for the next while (updates) ive had problems with memory the past week or 2 and so far works good :) we will see | 14:46 |
| gnomefreak | can i use * in place of all files/folders in a dir when wanting to compress ever files/folder in the dir? | 14:59 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: using what? | 14:59 |
| gnomefreak | using tar | 15:00 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: unnecessary, if you specify the directory, it will pull everything below it | 15:01 |
| gnomefreak | ah that makes sense sorry i forgot that i can compress the whole folder "backup :) thanks | 15:02 |
| micahg | yep, just add j or z :) | 15:02 |
| gnomefreak | tar -zcvf is what im using | 15:03 |
| * micahg managed to crash a terminal :) | 15:03 | |
| gnomefreak | how did you manage that. that is one thing that i never crashed | 15:05 |
| micahg | bad shell commands... | 15:07 |
| gnomefreak | really bad ones | 15:07 |
| * micahg left out a space I think... | 15:08 | |
| * micahg is working on his shell-fu | 15:08 | |
| micahg | asac: around? need to chat about TB3 migrator | 15:25 |
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| _Tsk_ | micahg: what is that TB3 migrator ? | 15:39 |
| micahg | _Tsk_: we have a profile migrator | 15:39 |
| _Tsk_ | you change the place where the profile is ? or it tweaks prefs and stuff ? | 15:39 |
| micahg | _Tsk_: well, TB2 stored in 1 dir, TB3 daily in another, and TB3 in another | 15:40 |
| micahg | it gives them the option which settings to use | 15:40 |
| _Tsk_ | ok | 15:40 |
| micahg | TB3 will be using the same profile dir as upstream | 15:40 |
| micahg | asac: hi | 15:50 |
| asac | hi | 15:54 |
| asac | on a call now ;) | 15:54 |
| asac | 1h | 15:54 |
| micahg | asac: k | 15:55 |
| gnomefreak | well that will teach me :( | 15:56 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: ? | 15:57 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thread from devel-discuss mailing list. thunderbird didnt put them together so i commented to the thread than saw everyone elses | 15:58 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: ah...weird | 15:58 |
| micahg | TB3? | 15:58 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: yeah | 15:58 |
| gnomefreak | it picks and chooses what ones it wants to put in time line order | 15:59 |
| gnomefreak | it also chooses what emails it wants to put in right folder(filtering) | 16:01 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: weird, I don't think I've had those issues | 16:01 |
| gnomefreak | i have from the start of tb3 | 16:02 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: are you using dailies? | 16:02 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: yes but it happened before dailies | 16:02 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: take a look at bug 516878 it made me laugh | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 516878 in ubufox "makes icons on tool bars disappear " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516878 | 16:15 |
| * gnomefreak thinks mark invalid due to his list | 16:15 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: there should be a TMP bug to dupe it to | 16:15 |
| gnomefreak | TMP? i dont remember seeing a bug on this in a long time during Karmic alpha cycle | 16:17 |
| micahg | I think that's the one that's conflicting | 16:17 |
| gnomefreak | yeah that would be the one. i didint look at his list. thanks | 16:18 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: do you have master bug? | 16:18 |
| * micahg would have to look | 16:18 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: there's bug 511840, but I thought we had an older one | 16:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 511840 in ubufox "Ubufox + Tab Mix Plus make toolbar buttons disappear" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511840 | 16:20 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 16:20 |
| gnomefreak | ok done | 16:21 |
| fta2 | asac, plz reject the merge from mvo, the control file is bogus | 16:26 |
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| micahg | fta2: I can do it... | 16:33 |
| fta2 | ok, thanks | 16:34 |
| fta2 | the file still contains merge conflicts | 16:34 |
| * gnomefreak be rigght back need to hang self | 16:42 | |
| * micahg needs to add the fix for hardy -> lucid ff upgrade | 16:43 | |
| asac | fta2: why is the control file bogs? | 16:52 |
| asac | if the doesnt apply cleanly (because its too old) we should merge it | 16:52 |
| asac | or are you saying that it really contained merge conflicts on its own? | 16:53 |
| micahg | asac: it looked like what you said I shouldn't do as well | 16:53 |
| micahg | asac: are you off of your call? | 16:54 |
| asac | ok so it was launchpad outlining merge conflicts | 16:54 |
| asac | yes. since a few minutes | 16:54 |
| asac | micahg: whats up? | 16:54 |
| micahg | asac: a lot :) | 16:55 |
| asac | hehe | 16:55 |
| asac | want to have a call in 15? | 16:55 |
| asac | or later? | 16:55 |
| asac | ;) | 16:55 |
| micahg | asac: sure | 16:55 |
| asac | otherwise just shoot here | 16:55 |
| micahg | later won't work as I have $WORK :) | 16:55 |
| asac | ok | 16:55 |
| asac | let me check with my boss on whether i have time | 16:57 |
| asac | bug 507416 | 16:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 507416 in linux-fsl-imx51 "CONFIG_NEON=y causes platform lockups with certain application/platform combinations" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507416 | 16:58 |
| asac | micahg: can you just merge mvos branch and fix the conflict manually? | 16:59 |
| micahg | asac: he reproposed, but it only has a replaces on ff3.0 | 16:59 |
| micahg | asac: do we need all the transitional pacakges? | 17:00 |
| asac | micahg: all? | 17:05 |
| asac | we need even more | 17:05 |
| asac | we need the ffox3.0 transitional ones as well for hardy,intrepid,jaunty iirc | 17:06 |
| asac | unless we already added those | 17:06 |
| micahg | right | 17:06 |
| micahg | no, the 5 for ff3.0 I think are all that's left | 17:06 |
| asac | micahg: merge his patch for now ... that makes him happy | 17:06 |
| asac | for his upgrade testing | 17:06 |
| asac | then when we add the transitional packages all is fine | 17:07 |
| micahg | asac: k | 17:07 |
| micahg | asac: won't help anything until we respin anyways | 17:08 |
| asac | lets get the upload done soon then. | 17:08 |
| asac | mvo needs to be unblocked ;) | 17:08 |
| asac | he is doing all this upgrade testing | 17:08 |
| micahg | asac: I should stilll merge then? | 17:08 |
| asac | yes | 17:08 |
| micahg | k | 17:08 |
| asac | merge ... then prepare a new release for lucid | 17:08 |
| asac | with just this patch if it is | 17:08 |
| micahg | asac: k, I'll add the transitional packages right now then | 17:09 |
| asac | ok | 17:09 |
| asac | but merge his commit first | 17:09 |
| asac | otherwise its not nice ;) | 17:09 |
| micahg | yep :) | 17:09 |
| asac | since he submitted twice | 17:09 |
| * micahg should have fixed this last week... | 17:09 | |
| asac | yeah ;) | 17:10 |
| asac | but well. you are busy :-P | 17:10 |
| asac | micahg: is tbid ready? | 17:10 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: any reason tb wont grab all emails from server instead it only grabs $NUMBER but i have to refreash it to grab some more. This is with thousands of emails maybe 2+ or so i never counted | 17:10 |
| micahg | asac: I need to chat about the migrator, otehrwise, yes | 17:11 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no reason AFAIK | 17:11 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ok | 17:12 |
| gnomefreak | anyone try printing an envelope using OO.o before? | 17:32 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, it's rotated 180 degrees from doing it with Word in windows | 17:32 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i cant find it in word. i found insert envelope but that puts it in the doc | 17:33 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I think there may be a template or something | 17:33 |
| micahg | maybe it's just the paper size? | 17:33 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ok ill look thanks | 17:33 |
| billybigrigger_ | hey all | 18:46 |
| billybigrigger_ | is thunderbird 3.1 broken? | 18:46 |
| billybigrigger_ | i can't seem to add a mail account | 18:46 |
| billybigrigger_ | i'm copying the account info directly from my desktop that i know works with my mailserver | 18:46 |
| billybigrigger_ | and i seem to be stuck at sending login information... | 18:46 |
| billybigrigger_ | thunderbird claims my account settings are ok, it checked my user/pass, and gave me a green light, now it's just been sitting there for about 10 mins saying Sending login information... | 18:47 |
| micahg | asac: I already added the team meeting to the fridge | 20:34 |
| micahg | oh wait | 20:34 |
| micahg | are we moving it one month? | 20:34 |
| asac | ? | 20:34 |
| asac | not sure | 20:34 |
| asac | why do you think=? | 20:34 |
| micahg | I just got an invite for mar 11 | 20:34 |
| asac | hmm | 20:34 |
| asac | micahg: ask gnomefreak whats going on | 20:49 |
| asac | i am fine with mar 11 | 20:49 |
| asac | but he said on thursday | 20:50 |
| micahg | asac: are you still ok with thursday, we got it in teh newsletter as well | 20:51 |
| micahg | from the fridge posting | 20:51 |
| asac | micahg: so the fridge posting says this thursday? | 20:51 |
| asac | or mar 11? | 20:51 |
| micahg | asac: yeah, this thursday, I can change, it but it went out in teh newsletter | 20:52 |
| micahg | so I'd have to get nathan to post a blurb delaying it ont he fridge | 20:52 |
| asac | i would think that the calendar is wrong then | 20:52 |
| asac | lets not delay | 20:53 |
| micahg | asac: do you need a separate invite for it? | 20:53 |
| micahg | I used google calendar | 20:53 |
| asac | i added it to my calendar manually ... le tme check | 20:53 |
| * micahg thinks it | 20:54 | |
| * micahg thinks it'll be good to clarify our goals for this cycle for everyone | 20:54 | |
| asac | right | 21:00 |
| asac | micahg: is there anything you needed today? | 21:04 |
| asac | was there anything left for tbird? or are we ready to go tomorrow? | 21:04 |
| * asac starts a note to do the upload ... | 21:04 | |
| micahg | asac: yes | 21:04 |
| micahg | asac: so, can we drop the decide later button or make it just exit | 21:05 |
| micahg | on the migrator? | 21:05 |
| asac | why drop? | 21:05 |
| asac | i think atm the decide later button makes it just exit | 21:06 |
| micahg | no, I think decide later lets you use the current profile | 21:06 |
| micahg | which there is none | 21:06 |
| micahg | in our case | 21:06 |
| asac | no | 21:06 |
| asac | there is one | 21:06 |
| asac | .mozilla-thunderbird gets copied on first run | 21:06 |
| micahg | asac: not in .thunderbird | 21:06 |
| asac | then its .thunderbird | 21:06 |
| asac | thats the "current" one | 21:06 |
| micahg | asac: even if they click decide alter? | 21:07 |
| micahg | *larer | 21:07 |
| micahg | *later | 21:07 |
| asac | yes | 21:07 |
| asac | if they click decide later we just keep the beta profile | 21:07 |
| asac | and let the user keep on using the default (aka the previous .mozilla-thunderbird) | 21:07 |
| micahg | but then the second run, it should move the old .m-tb which is now .tb to .tb.upstream? | 21:07 |
| asac | micahg: no thats on first run | 21:08 |
| asac | in all cases you do that move | 21:08 |
| asac | oh sorry | 21:08 |
| asac | i dont understand your question | 21:08 |
| asac | so on first run you rename .m-tb to .tb | 21:08 |
| asac | then you open the dialog if there also is a .tb-3.0 | 21:09 |
| micahg | asac: yes, but you told me if there's a .tb to move to .tb.upstream | 21:09 |
| asac | if user hits "decide later" you just stat thunderbird ... so on next run there is .tb and tb-3 still | 21:09 |
| asac | so user gets asked again | 21:09 |
| asac | until he either says: "use beta profile" -> use .tb-3 in future | 21:09 |
| asac | or "use standard" | 21:09 |
| asac | micahg: ah. yes. | 21:09 |
| asac | micahg: we dont carea bou the .tb.upstream | 21:10 |
| asac | we just move it there so we dont have to delete it | 21:10 |
| asac | we consider a .tb directory to be from upstream | 21:10 |
| asac | we dont ask user whether he wants to keep using it | 21:10 |
| asac | that would be too difficult | 21:10 |
| micahg | k, so I only move .tb out of the way if either there's a .m-tb or a .tb-3.0 | 21:10 |
| asac | yes | 21:11 |
| asac | exactly | 21:11 |
| micahg | or rather, a .m-tb or they click use 3.0 profile | 21:11 |
| micahg | k | 21:11 |
| asac | not sure the last thing you said | 21:11 |
| micahg | next, do you want to review my transitional packages for FF3? | 21:11 |
| asac | imo if .m-tb exists we always move it away | 21:11 |
| asac | then we ask the question if there is a 3.0 prfile | 21:12 |
| asac | micahg: sure | 21:12 |
| micahg | http://pastebin.com/f14c41a20 | 21:12 |
| asac | micahg: ensure that you have all 3.0 packages that existed | 21:13 |
| asac | afaik there was also dom-inspector or something | 21:13 |
| asac | besides from that it looks ok | 21:13 |
| micahg | asac: those are the only ones that weren't already transitional in hardy | 21:13 |
| asac | micahg: what do you mean with "transitional in hardy"? | 21:14 |
| micahg | asac: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy-updates§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=firefox-3 | 21:14 |
| asac | isnt dom-inspector depending on xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector? | 21:14 |
| micahg | yes | 21:15 |
| micahg | but that's dependent on xulrunner-1.9 | 21:15 |
| asac | firefox-3.0-dom-inspector depends on xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector | 21:16 |
| asac | that means it needs to be transitioned | 21:16 |
| micahg | asac: right | 21:16 |
| micahg | asac: i didn't think we're transitioning xul packages in ff | 21:16 |
| asac | yeah | 21:17 |
| asac | to know for sure you need to install gusy and upgrade to hardy and see if those packages get removed | 21:17 |
| asac | i would assume its safe to transition them | 21:17 |
| asac | but maybe we dont need them | 21:18 |
| micahg | even if it's there, it's dependent on xulrunner, not firefox, which we shouldn't remove w/the firefox upgrade | 21:18 |
| micahg | or was it replaced with something in the ff package now? | 21:19 |
| micahg | or was it dropped entirely? | 21:19 |
| micahg | asac: ^^ | 21:22 |
| fta | asac, what's the position of canonical wrt h264? | 21:25 |
| fta | asac, http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2010/02/royalty-free-codec-still-needed-despite-no-cost-h264-license.ars | 21:25 |
| asac | i thought we already have that in multiverse somewhere | 21:26 |
| asac | so we would want to have that on-demand installed | 21:26 |
| asac | if the decorder can be redistributed in multiverse without getting sued | 21:26 |
| micahg | !info h264enc | 21:27 |
| ubottu | h264enc (source: h264enc): encode video or DVD in H.264/AVC/MPEG-4 Part 10. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.0.0+dfsg-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 102 kB, installed size 400 kB | 21:27 |
| micahg | asac: we never transitioned the xul* packages from jaunty -> karmic, so it should be safe not to do it | 21:27 |
| micahg | sorry, xul-dom, and xul-venkman | 21:28 |
| armin76 | [reed]: ping | 21:28 |
| asac | micahg: hmm. if you are sure that we dropped them its ok i would hope | 21:32 |
| micahg | asac: k, I'm going to push what I have and tag for release | 21:32 |
| asac | micahg: right | 21:32 |
| asac | micahg: oh give me the diff again | 21:33 |
| micahg | http://pastebin.com/f14c41a20 | 21:33 |
| asac | micahg: can you make a bzr diff --diff-opts="-U8" ? | 21:33 |
| asac | e.g. i need more context to know for sure | 21:33 |
| asac | without applying here | 21:33 |
| micahg | asac: can I pass that to bzr log? | 21:33 |
| asac | i doubt it | 21:33 |
| asac | you can do bzr diff -r REV1..REV2 --diff-opts ... | 21:33 |
| micahg | asac: http://pastebin.com/f16e1ead2 | 21:34 |
| [reed] | armin76: pong | 21:43 |
| micahg | [reed]: BTW, did you see my message about the sqlite failure | 21:45 |
| [reed] | micahg: no | 21:45 |
| [reed] | micahg: configure failure? | 21:46 |
| micahg | [reed]: yes | 21:46 |
| micahg | [reed]: the test didn't pass like you said w/the other distro | 21:46 |
| [reed] | sigh, ok | 21:48 |
| micahg | [reed]: should I comment on the test bug? | 21:49 |
| [reed] | micahg: open a new bug, mark it blocking the test bug, and cc me and anarchy@gentoo.org | 21:51 |
| micahg | [reed]: k | 21:54 |
| asac | what kind of check is that? | 21:55 |
| asac | another NULL_OUT_DATA check? | 21:55 |
| micahg | asac: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=412450&action=diff | 21:56 |
| asac | yeah. thats what i thought. SECURE_DELETE | 21:57 |
| LLStarks | asac, did you get my message about the lack of cairo in umd build? | 21:58 |
| LLStarks | *builds | 21:58 |
| micahg | LLStarks: bug 512615 | 21:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 | 21:59 |
| micahg | asac: was the diff ok? | 22:00 |
| BUGabundo | fta: well latest chromium managed to crash 3 times already | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | one of them signining in to bookmarks sync | 22:07 |
| BUGabundo | bah | 22:07 |
| asac | folks we know that there are font issues. | 22:11 |
| asac | [reed]: any success getting that font bug escalated | 22:12 |
| asac | ? | 22:12 |
| asac | hmm | 22:13 |
| asac | micahg: thought we had a systme-cairo font bug | 22:13 |
| asac | what happened to that | 22:13 |
| asac | ? | 22:13 |
| asac | only the lcd bug is added as upstream there | 22:13 |
| asac | oh wait | 22:13 |
| asac | that was just added as a watch iirc | 22:13 |
| micahg | asac: font hinting or something else? | 22:14 |
| asac | micahg: 541319 is not a dupe of the other imo | 22:14 |
| asac | like i said. the lcd patch is the one that its duped | 22:14 |
| asac | the other bug is about not honouring gtk settings | 22:14 |
| asac | ok unduped | 22:15 |
| micahg | the upstream is a dupe according to the descriptions | 22:15 |
| micahg | asac: no, it is correct according to the descriptions | 22:15 |
| micahg | and the LCD bug is what we're looking at as well | 22:15 |
| micahg | there might be anotehr bug, but that would be another bug | 22:16 |
| asac | well the descrption says its ugly | 22:16 |
| asac | not honouring hinting makes it much more ugly than the lcd patch | 22:17 |
| asac | at least afaik | 22:17 |
| asac | we are concerend about both | 22:17 |
| asac | but the gtk setting not honoured is the real bad thing that isnt known and needs escalation | 22:17 |
| asac | lcd setting is known for ages | 22:17 |
| asac | err | 22:17 |
| micahg | asac: fine, but the reporter references the LCD patch and fringing, same as the other bug | 22:17 |
| asac | lcd patch | 22:17 |
| micahg | asac: we should open a new bug then instead of hijacking | 22:18 |
| asac | yes | 22:18 |
| asac | well | 22:18 |
| asac | wasnt there one? | 22:18 |
| micahg | asac: are you referring to bug 379761? | 22:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 379761 in fontconfig "MASTER - FF 3.5 font hinting does not honour gnome-settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379761 | 22:18 |
| asac | i mean the one from kees is lcd patch | 22:18 |
| asac | right | 22:18 |
| asac | well not | 22:18 |
| asac | let me check | 22:18 |
| micahg | yeah, I didn't have a chance to look for upstream yet | 22:18 |
| asac | that was a different bug | 22:18 |
| asac | micahg: i think we had a bug from llstarks | 22:19 |
| asac | did you dupe anything into kees bug=? | 22:19 |
| micahg | maybe... | 22:19 |
| asac | ok so lets use 379761 for that one | 22:19 |
| asac | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/512561 | 22:19 |
| asac | that one | 22:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 512561 in firefox "Firefox-3.6 doesn't respect font settings (dup-of: 512615)" [Undecided,New] | 22:19 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 22:19 |
| asac | is not the same as kees | 22:19 |
| asac | and i think https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/513309 probably too ... but that is questionable | 22:20 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 513309 in firefox "Font rendering in new Firefox 3.6 package is a regression (dup-of: 512615)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 22:20 |
| micahg | asac: I didn't set that one... | 22:20 |
| asac | 512561 is the important one ... the lcd bug i am sure isnt that important | 22:20 |
| asac | once the hinting is fixed | 22:20 |
| asac | did i? | 22:20 |
| micahg | asac: so, I should use the old font hinting bug then? | 22:20 |
| asac | me looks | 22:20 |
| micahg | asac: no, someone else | 22:20 |
| asac | no | 22:20 |
| asac | that one is old | 22:20 |
| asac | its a different one that had to do with fontconfig rules | 22:21 |
| micahg | asac: so ,make that one you just pointed out teh master? | 22:21 |
| asac | Firefox-3.6 doesn't respect font settings | 22:21 |
| asac | that one is the new master | 22:21 |
| asac | yes | 22:21 |
| asac | 512561 | 22:21 |
| micahg | done | 22:21 |
| asac | and link it to the bug i unduped upstream | 22:21 |
| asac | thanks | 22:21 |
| micahg | asac: no, the upstream bug was hijacked | 22:21 |
| micahg | ok, we need to update the title of the upstream bug then | 22:22 |
| asac | why? | 22:22 |
| asac | i stated it clearly now in the bug | 22:22 |
| micahg | k | 22:22 |
| asac | ok changed title ;) | 22:23 |
| micahg | asac: k | 22:24 |
| micahg | asac: was my diff for ff3 transitional ok? | 22:24 |
| asac | micahg: main binary has to conflict/replace firefox-3.0-gnome-support too i think | 22:26 |
| asac | otherwise its ok | 22:26 |
| micahg | weird, don't know how I missed that... | 22:26 |
| asac | same like firefox-3.0 conflicts/replaces the 3.6-gnome-support | 22:26 |
| asac | well its not obvious ;) | 22:27 |
| asac | might also be not needed | 22:27 |
| asac | but is consistent | 22:27 |
| micahg | asac: yeah, it's there for 3.6 | 22:27 |
| micahg | so I'll add for 3.5 and 3.0 | 22:27 |
| asac | for 3.0 its there because we moved files from -gnome-support | 22:27 |
| asac | so now that i thin kabout it | 22:28 |
| asac | dont add it | 22:28 |
| asac | otherwise i would hav eadded 3.5 before too | 22:28 |
| asac | its really just because of the real file move i did from 3.6 to 3.6 | 22:28 |
| asac | ;) | 22:28 |
| asac | the other package does the transition | 22:28 |
| asac | e.g. the firefox-gnome-support | 22:28 |
| asac | 3.5 and 3.6 should be there | 22:28 |
| asac | sorry for confusion | 22:28 |
| micahg | asac: k, np | 22:28 |
| micahg | asac: I'll tag release for lucid then | 22:28 |
| asac | yeah | 22:29 |
| micahg | asac: k, pushed | 22:29 |
| asac | cool | 22:29 |
| micahg | asac: now, for the 3.5 and 3.0 updates, do I use the BUILD1 tag in teh changelog? | 22:29 |
| asac | yes | 22:29 |
| asac | if current update is BUILD1 we do that | 22:30 |
| asac | we also use +build1+nobinonly | 22:30 |
| asac | in the changelog version | 22:30 |
| micahg | and can I list other bugs fixed under the USN notice? | 22:30 |
| asac | sure | 22:30 |
| micahg | asac: k | 22:30 |
| micahg | so the rest should be done tomorrow | 22:30 |
| micahg | asac: after you release to lucid, I'll add to the firefox-stable PPA? | 22:32 |
| LLStarks | asac, i was referring to the 3.6 builds in umd and the main repo that have zero cairo support and no hinting | 22:38 |
| asac | zero cairo support is wrong | 22:39 |
| asac | why do you think that its not using cairo? | 22:39 |
| asac | if that was the case it wouldnt render anything | 22:39 |
| asac | micahg: yes | 22:39 |
| asac | after | 22:39 |
| micahg | asac: k | 22:39 |
| asac | micahg: we first push to security ppa (with all the 3.0 3.5 etc. stuff) | 22:39 |
| asac | oh | 22:40 |
| asac | yeah | 22:40 |
| asac | well | 22:40 |
| asac | you are right ;) | 22:40 |
| asac | confused the context | 22:40 |
| mbana | man i envy windows a lot | 23:06 |
| mbana | firefox on it runs at blazing speeds | 23:07 |
| micahg | mbana: shouldn't be a difference | 23:09 |
| micahg | if anything, I would think linux should be faster due to the shared libraries | 23:10 |
| armin76 | [reed]: mozilla bug 502369, i want it on 1.9.2 plz | 23:12 |
| micahg | asac: why it's not a good idea to hijack bugs (even for a good reason ) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=541319#c11 ;) | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 502369 in JIT Compiler (NanoJIT) "sparc linux lacks sync_instruction_memory rendering xulrunner unbuildable" [Major,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502369 | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 541319 in Graphics "firefox does not honour gtk/gnome settings in FF3.6 on Ubuntu/lucid since using --disable-system-cairo" [Normal,Reopened] | 23:12 |
| mbana | micahg: the ui is defo faster on windows. scrolling in particular | 23:19 |
| mbana | the smooth scrolling is amazing | 23:19 |
| asac | we should really check redhat | 23:19 |
| asac | and see if upstream builds have the same font issues | 23:19 |
| asac | (not the redhat builds) | 23:19 |
| asac | if thats the case i am confident that no upstream developer has ever seen good fonts ... which is why its so hard to explain ;) | 23:20 |
| asac | redhat aka fedora | 23:20 |
| asac | anyone wants to ttest install taht? | 23:20 |
| asac | mbana: ? | 23:20 |
| micahg | asac: i think our builds are fine, so I can't be the one to do that | 23:21 |
| asac | our builds are not fine | 23:21 |
| asac | not in lucid | 23:21 |
| micahg | asac: ah | 23:21 |
| asac | we got told to not use system-cairo ... so we do | 23:21 |
| micahg | maybe I should install lucid in a VM | 23:21 |
| asac | maybe | 23:21 |
| mbana | lol! | 23:21 |
| asac | well | 23:21 |
| mbana | soryr ... | 23:21 |
| asac | use the karmic ffox 3.6 builds | 23:21 |
| asac | from daily | 23:21 |
| mbana | are u saying i test the fronts | 23:22 |
| micahg | asac: the firefox-stable PPA isn't the same? | 23:22 |
| mbana | the fonts | 23:22 |
| micahg | that's what I',m using | 23:22 |
| asac | micahg: yes it is | 23:22 |
| asac | so either daily or firefox-stable ppa | 23:22 |
| asac | upgrade to 3.6 | 23:22 |
| micahg | I don't see a problem on karmic | 23:22 |
| mbana | im slightly confused right now. can u type in a single block | 23:22 |
| asac | but you see a problem on lucid? | 23:22 |
| micahg | asac: I haven't tried it yet | 23:22 |
| asac | heh | 23:23 |
| asac | micahg: try to switch hinting in gtk settings | 23:23 |
| asac | ffox doesnt change its font hinting if you do that | 23:23 |
| asac | (and restart) | 23:23 |
| asac | mbana: are you running firefox 3.6? | 23:24 |
| asac | otherwise upgrade to firefox-stable ppa or daily ppa (both have firefox 3.6 for karmic) | 23:24 |
| mbana | i just want to ask; a) is the new jit compiler in the 64bit builds yet? i asked in #jsapi in mozilla irc and they said it's in the nightly. b) the fonts? i take it they're fixed ;) | 23:24 |
| micahg | mbana: I was told it was in 3.5 | 23:25 |
| mbana | yes, but not in 64bit builds - only 32bit | 23:25 |
| asac | mbana: fonts are not fixed. jit is not in 64bit for 3.6 ... just in nightlies 3.7 i think | 23:25 |
| mbana | so if i get the ppa, i still won't get the new jit | 23:25 |
| asac | mbana: in the ppa we also have firefox-3.7 | 23:25 |
| asac | so yes and no ;) | 23:26 |
| micahg | asac: what's the alternative for HintStyle? | 23:26 |
| micahg | mine is at hintfull | 23:26 |
| asac | in fontconfig? | 23:27 |
| asac | hintmedium hintslight hintnone | 23:27 |
| asac | afaik | 23:27 |
| asac | or just full mediaum slight none | 23:27 |
| micahg | yeah, it doesn't seem to respect it | 23:28 |
| micahg | my other apps changed to ugly when I went to hintnone | 23:29 |
| asac | well. thats normal if you have gtksettings ;) | 23:29 |
| micahg | but FF is still showing full | 23:29 |
| asac | i am talking about gconf aka gtk settings | 23:29 |
| asac | micahg: or where did you change it? | 23:29 |
| * micahg is usinf xfconf | 23:29 | |
| asac | preferences -> appearence -> fonts | 23:29 |
| asac | there you can change hinting somewhere | 23:29 |
| micahg | asac: I'm on xfce | 23:29 |
| asac | do you have gnome-appearance-properties ? | 23:30 |
| asac | does xfce use gtksettings daemon at all? | 23:30 |
| micahg | asac: no | 23:30 |
| asac | otherwise you dont see it | 23:30 |
| asac | what does xfconf do? set xwindow properties? | 23:30 |
| micahg | asac: yes, I saw the option Xft->HintStyle | 23:30 |
| asac | that might be similar to what we have in gnome | 23:31 |
| asac | but not 100% sure | 23:31 |
| micahg | Well, I saw the fonts in pidgin get bloated when I set to hintnone | 23:31 |
| asac | still ;) | 23:31 |
| micahg | I figure that's what everyone's talking about | 23:31 |
| asac | could be a third mechanism | 23:31 |
| micahg | but FF didn't change | 23:31 |
| asac | right | 23:31 |
| asac | its likely that its the same issue | 23:31 |
| asac | just cant tell for sure unless i know what it does in the back | 23:31 |
| micahg | k | 23:31 |
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