[02:56] asac. woe is me. 3.6.2 dailies are still not being built against cairo. [02:57] fta, is there a problem with the build system? [04:09] micahg. sup. [04:21] hi LLStarks [04:53] [reed]: sqlite check failure w/3.6.22 [06:49] hi all [06:50] need i add ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable to get ff3.6 or will it be in norma updates of (k)ubuntu karmic? [06:53] noaXess, probly will not be in karmic updates [06:53] since it hasn't been yet [06:54] okay.. so add this ppa.. [06:54] yeah, check the ppas [06:54] or download from mozilla directly [06:54] will be in lucid though [06:54] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=firefox [06:58] how is the name of ff3.6 from the mozillateam ppa? still firefox or any other name?.. as in ppa of mozilla daily builds? [06:58] which ppa? [06:58] check the websites of the ppas, it's all there [06:58] dunno which one you mean in particular [07:00] just minute.. updating ff [07:01] need a reboot. [07:01] no [07:01] wil back soon.. kernel update.. [07:01] just a restart [07:01] oh [07:01] :) === gandi_ is now known as gandi [10:12] !info libdbusmenu-glib1 [10:12] !info libdbusmenu-glib1 lucid [10:12] Package libdbusmenu-glib1 does not exist in karmic [10:13] libdbusmenu-glib1 (source: libdbusmenu): Menus over DBus shared library for glib. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.3-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 20 kB, installed size 100 kB [11:37] Hi [11:37] I see there is todays build of Firefox 3.7 on PPA page [11:38] but I didn't get any update for it in past 2 days :S [11:38] what can be the problem? [11:39] I see now [11:39] build faild for 64bit :( [11:39] brOas [12:42] since i have ff 3.6 from mozillateam ppa, i haven't sun-java6-plugin enabled.. it is installed but not in firefox.. if i go to http://www.java.com/de/download/installed.jsp and check java version, ff means to install the plugin, i try so.. an get the message that sun-java6-plugin is allready installed... any idea how to get java plugin back to ff 3.6? [13:01] ok goit it working.. [13:01] see here.. german solution: https://libertalia.eu/blog/floeschie/2010/01/java-plugin-fuer-firefox-36-unter-ubuntu-linux-karmic [13:01] sudo update-alternatives --set mozilla-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so [13:13] can this posted somewhere on the ppa.. or can the mozillateam this include in a next update? [13:14] noaXess: Lucid no longer has SUN Java [13:14] BUGabundo_work: ?? and what does lucid has? openjdk? [13:15] yes [13:15] which, AFAIK, doesnt have a browser plugin, yet [13:15] but micah has more info on that [13:18] okay.. so i cqn use openjdk also now. right? [13:18] can ^ [13:22] now have enabled java-6-openjdk.. but ff3.6 plugin won't work.. how to get it up with openjdk? [13:22] plugin is installed: dpkg -l | grep icedtea -> ii icedtea6-plugin 6b16-1.6.1-3ubuntu1 [13:43] fta: around? [13:44] BUGabundo: hey [13:45] hey and` [13:45] BUGabundo: do you know if setting up latest gwibber on Debian sid / squeeze is possible? (dependencies are badly messed up) [13:46] yes they were [13:46] i used Hardy repos [13:46] *PPA [13:46] used to at least start [13:46] no idea about the new 2.9x version [13:46] havent tested it [13:46] k, thanks, will give it a try [14:28] who is here? [14:28] me [14:28] hi gnomefreak [14:29] :) [14:29] hi asac [14:30] BUGabundo: and`: latest gwibber doesnt work in hardy afaik [14:31] i would hope karmic is close enough to squeeze [14:32] asac: i am going to try to make the meeting. I have to see my accountant at 9:00am not sure how long it will take. ATM there is no agenda. [14:32] i should be here before 9:00 [14:32] gnomefreak: we have a meeting date? [14:32] hmm [14:32] when is that? [14:33] asac: thursday @ 16:00UTC [14:33] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Meetings [14:34] ok [14:34] * asac adds calendar entry [14:36] gnomefreak: i'm, sometimes [14:36] we should really have a way to add wikis as an .ical but have it as "you choose" what ones you want [14:46] ok there is a very good chance i will get locked up for the next while (updates) ive had problems with memory the past week or 2 and so far works good :) we will see [14:59] can i use * in place of all files/folders in a dir when wanting to compress ever files/folder in the dir? [14:59] gnomefreak: using what? [15:00] using tar [15:01] gnomefreak: unnecessary, if you specify the directory, it will pull everything below it [15:02] ah that makes sense sorry i forgot that i can compress the whole folder "backup :) thanks [15:02] yep, just add j or z :) [15:03] tar -zcvf is what im using [15:03] * micahg managed to crash a terminal :) [15:05] how did you manage that. that is one thing that i never crashed [15:07] bad shell commands... [15:07] really bad ones [15:08] * micahg left out a space I think... [15:08] * micahg is working on his shell-fu [15:25] asac: around? need to chat about TB3 migrator === asac_ is now known as asac [15:39] <_Tsk_> micahg: what is that TB3 migrator ? [15:39] _Tsk_: we have a profile migrator [15:39] <_Tsk_> you change the place where the profile is ? or it tweaks prefs and stuff ? [15:40] _Tsk_: well, TB2 stored in 1 dir, TB3 daily in another, and TB3 in another [15:40] it gives them the option which settings to use [15:40] <_Tsk_> ok [15:40] TB3 will be using the same profile dir as upstream [15:50] asac: hi [15:54] hi [15:54] on a call now ;) [15:54] 1h [15:55] asac: k [15:56] well that will teach me :( [15:57] gnomefreak: ? [15:58] micahg: thread from devel-discuss mailing list. thunderbird didnt put them together so i commented to the thread than saw everyone elses [15:58] gnomefreak: ah...weird [15:58] TB3? [15:58] micahg: yeah [15:59] it picks and chooses what ones it wants to put in time line order [16:01] it also chooses what emails it wants to put in right folder(filtering) [16:01] gnomefreak: weird, I don't think I've had those issues [16:02] i have from the start of tb3 [16:02] gnomefreak: are you using dailies? [16:02] micahg: yes but it happened before dailies [16:15] micahg: take a look at bug 516878 it made me laugh [16:15] Launchpad bug 516878 in ubufox "makes icons on tool bars disappear " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516878 [16:15] * gnomefreak thinks mark invalid due to his list [16:15] gnomefreak: there should be a TMP bug to dupe it to [16:17] TMP? i dont remember seeing a bug on this in a long time during Karmic alpha cycle [16:17] I think that's the one that's conflicting [16:18] yeah that would be the one. i didint look at his list. thanks [16:18] micahg: do you have master bug? [16:18] * micahg would have to look [16:20] gnomefreak: there's bug 511840, but I thought we had an older one [16:20] Launchpad bug 511840 in ubufox "Ubufox + Tab Mix Plus make toolbar buttons disappear" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/511840 [16:20] thanks [16:21] ok done [16:26] asac, plz reject the merge from mvo, the control file is bogus === micahg1 is now known as micahg [16:33] fta2: I can do it... [16:34] ok, thanks [16:34] the file still contains merge conflicts [16:42] * gnomefreak be rigght back need to hang self [16:43] * micahg needs to add the fix for hardy -> lucid ff upgrade [16:52] fta2: why is the control file bogs? [16:52] if the doesnt apply cleanly (because its too old) we should merge it [16:53] or are you saying that it really contained merge conflicts on its own? [16:53] asac: it looked like what you said I shouldn't do as well [16:54] asac: are you off of your call? [16:54] ok so it was launchpad outlining merge conflicts [16:54] yes. since a few minutes [16:54] micahg: whats up? [16:55] asac: a lot :) [16:55] hehe [16:55] want to have a call in 15? [16:55] or later? [16:55] ;) [16:55] asac: sure [16:55] otherwise just shoot here [16:55] later won't work as I have $WORK :) [16:55] ok [16:57] let me check with my boss on whether i have time [16:58] bug 507416 [16:58] Launchpad bug 507416 in linux-fsl-imx51 "CONFIG_NEON=y causes platform lockups with certain application/platform combinations" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507416 [16:59] micahg: can you just merge mvos branch and fix the conflict manually? [16:59] asac: he reproposed, but it only has a replaces on ff3.0 [17:00] asac: do we need all the transitional pacakges? [17:05] micahg: all? [17:05] we need even more [17:06] we need the ffox3.0 transitional ones as well for hardy,intrepid,jaunty iirc [17:06] unless we already added those [17:06] right [17:06] no, the 5 for ff3.0 I think are all that's left [17:06] micahg: merge his patch for now ... that makes him happy [17:06] for his upgrade testing [17:07] then when we add the transitional packages all is fine [17:07] asac: k [17:08] asac: won't help anything until we respin anyways [17:08] lets get the upload done soon then. [17:08] mvo needs to be unblocked ;) [17:08] he is doing all this upgrade testing [17:08] asac: I should stilll merge then? [17:08] yes [17:08] k [17:08] merge ... then prepare a new release for lucid [17:08] with just this patch if it is [17:09] asac: k, I'll add the transitional packages right now then [17:09] ok [17:09] but merge his commit first [17:09] otherwise its not nice ;) [17:09] yep :) [17:09] since he submitted twice [17:09] * micahg should have fixed this last week... [17:10] yeah ;) [17:10] but well. you are busy :-P [17:10] micahg: is tbid ready? [17:10] micahg: any reason tb wont grab all emails from server instead it only grabs $NUMBER but i have to refreash it to grab some more. This is with thousands of emails maybe 2+ or so i never counted [17:11] asac: I need to chat about the migrator, otehrwise, yes [17:11] gnomefreak: no reason AFAIK [17:12] micahg: ok [17:32] anyone try printing an envelope using OO.o before? [17:32] gnomefreak: yes, it's rotated 180 degrees from doing it with Word in windows [17:33] micahg: i cant find it in word. i found insert envelope but that puts it in the doc [17:33] gnomefreak: I think there may be a template or something [17:33] maybe it's just the paper size? [17:33] micahg: ok ill look thanks [18:46] hey all [18:46] is thunderbird 3.1 broken? [18:46] i can't seem to add a mail account [18:46] i'm copying the account info directly from my desktop that i know works with my mailserver [18:46] and i seem to be stuck at sending login information... [18:47] thunderbird claims my account settings are ok, it checked my user/pass, and gave me a green light, now it's just been sitting there for about 10 mins saying Sending login information... [20:34] asac: I already added the team meeting to the fridge [20:34] oh wait [20:34] are we moving it one month? [20:34] ? [20:34] not sure [20:34] why do you think=? [20:34] I just got an invite for mar 11 [20:34] hmm [20:49] micahg: ask gnomefreak whats going on [20:49] i am fine with mar 11 [20:50] but he said on thursday [20:51] asac: are you still ok with thursday, we got it in teh newsletter as well [20:51] from the fridge posting [20:51] micahg: so the fridge posting says this thursday? [20:51] or mar 11? [20:52] asac: yeah, this thursday, I can change, it but it went out in teh newsletter [20:52] so I'd have to get nathan to post a blurb delaying it ont he fridge [20:52] i would think that the calendar is wrong then [20:53] lets not delay [20:53] asac: do you need a separate invite for it? [20:53] I used google calendar [20:53] i added it to my calendar manually ... le tme check [20:54] * micahg thinks it [20:54] * micahg thinks it'll be good to clarify our goals for this cycle for everyone [21:00] right [21:04] micahg: is there anything you needed today? [21:04] was there anything left for tbird? or are we ready to go tomorrow? [21:04] * asac starts a note to do the upload ... [21:04] asac: yes [21:05] asac: so, can we drop the decide later button or make it just exit [21:05] on the migrator? [21:05] why drop? [21:06] i think atm the decide later button makes it just exit [21:06] no, I think decide later lets you use the current profile [21:06] which there is none [21:06] in our case [21:06] no [21:06] there is one [21:06] .mozilla-thunderbird gets copied on first run [21:06] asac: not in .thunderbird [21:06] then its .thunderbird [21:06] thats the "current" one [21:07] asac: even if they click decide alter? [21:07] *larer [21:07] *later [21:07] yes [21:07] if they click decide later we just keep the beta profile [21:07] and let the user keep on using the default (aka the previous .mozilla-thunderbird) [21:07] but then the second run, it should move the old .m-tb which is now .tb to .tb.upstream? [21:08] micahg: no thats on first run [21:08] in all cases you do that move [21:08] oh sorry [21:08] i dont understand your question [21:08] so on first run you rename .m-tb to .tb [21:09] then you open the dialog if there also is a .tb-3.0 [21:09] asac: yes, but you told me if there's a .tb to move to .tb.upstream [21:09] if user hits "decide later" you just stat thunderbird ... so on next run there is .tb and tb-3 still [21:09] so user gets asked again [21:09] until he either says: "use beta profile" -> use .tb-3 in future [21:09] or "use standard" [21:09] micahg: ah. yes. [21:10] micahg: we dont carea bou the .tb.upstream [21:10] we just move it there so we dont have to delete it [21:10] we consider a .tb directory to be from upstream [21:10] we dont ask user whether he wants to keep using it [21:10] that would be too difficult [21:10] k, so I only move .tb out of the way if either there's a .m-tb or a .tb-3.0 [21:11] yes [21:11] exactly [21:11] or rather, a .m-tb or they click use 3.0 profile [21:11] k [21:11] not sure the last thing you said [21:11] next, do you want to review my transitional packages for FF3? [21:11] imo if .m-tb exists we always move it away [21:12] then we ask the question if there is a 3.0 prfile [21:12] micahg: sure [21:12] http://pastebin.com/f14c41a20 [21:13] micahg: ensure that you have all 3.0 packages that existed [21:13] afaik there was also dom-inspector or something [21:13] besides from that it looks ok [21:13] asac: those are the only ones that weren't already transitional in hardy [21:14] micahg: what do you mean with "transitional in hardy"? [21:14] asac: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=hardy-updates§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=firefox-3 [21:14] isnt dom-inspector depending on xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector? [21:15] yes [21:15] but that's dependent on xulrunner-1.9 [21:16] firefox-3.0-dom-inspector depends on xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector [21:16] that means it needs to be transitioned [21:16] asac: right [21:16] asac: i didn't think we're transitioning xul packages in ff [21:17] yeah [21:17] to know for sure you need to install gusy and upgrade to hardy and see if those packages get removed [21:17] i would assume its safe to transition them [21:18] but maybe we dont need them [21:18] even if it's there, it's dependent on xulrunner, not firefox, which we shouldn't remove w/the firefox upgrade [21:19] or was it replaced with something in the ff package now? [21:19] or was it dropped entirely? [21:22] asac: ^^ [21:25] asac, what's the position of canonical wrt h264? [21:25] asac, http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2010/02/royalty-free-codec-still-needed-despite-no-cost-h264-license.ars [21:26] i thought we already have that in multiverse somewhere [21:26] so we would want to have that on-demand installed [21:26] if the decorder can be redistributed in multiverse without getting sued [21:27] !info h264enc [21:27] h264enc (source: h264enc): encode video or DVD in H.264/AVC/MPEG-4 Part 10. In component universe, is optional. Version 9.0.0+dfsg-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 102 kB, installed size 400 kB [21:27] asac: we never transitioned the xul* packages from jaunty -> karmic, so it should be safe not to do it [21:28] sorry, xul-dom, and xul-venkman [21:28] [reed]: ping [21:32] micahg: hmm. if you are sure that we dropped them its ok i would hope [21:32] asac: k, I'm going to push what I have and tag for release [21:32] micahg: right [21:33] micahg: oh give me the diff again [21:33] http://pastebin.com/f14c41a20 [21:33] micahg: can you make a bzr diff --diff-opts="-U8" ? [21:33] e.g. i need more context to know for sure [21:33] without applying here [21:33] asac: can I pass that to bzr log? [21:33] i doubt it [21:33] you can do bzr diff -r REV1..REV2 --diff-opts ... [21:34] asac: http://pastebin.com/f16e1ead2 [21:43] <[reed]> armin76: pong [21:45] [reed]: BTW, did you see my message about the sqlite failure [21:45] <[reed]> micahg: no [21:46] <[reed]> micahg: configure failure? [21:46] [reed]: yes [21:46] [reed]: the test didn't pass like you said w/the other distro [21:48] <[reed]> sigh, ok [21:49] [reed]: should I comment on the test bug? [21:51] <[reed]> micahg: open a new bug, mark it blocking the test bug, and cc me and anarchy@gentoo.org [21:54] [reed]: k [21:55] what kind of check is that? [21:55] another NULL_OUT_DATA check? [21:56] asac: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=412450&action=diff [21:57] yeah. thats what i thought. SECURE_DELETE [21:58] asac, did you get my message about the lack of cairo in umd build? [21:58] *builds [21:58] LLStarks: bug 512615 [21:59] Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 [22:00] asac: was the diff ok? [22:07] fta: well latest chromium managed to crash 3 times already [22:07] one of them signining in to bookmarks sync [22:07] bah [22:11] folks we know that there are font issues. [22:12] [reed]: any success getting that font bug escalated [22:12] ? [22:13] hmm [22:13] micahg: thought we had a systme-cairo font bug [22:13] what happened to that [22:13] ? [22:13] only the lcd bug is added as upstream there [22:13] oh wait [22:13] that was just added as a watch iirc [22:14] asac: font hinting or something else? [22:14] micahg: 541319 is not a dupe of the other imo [22:14] like i said. the lcd patch is the one that its duped [22:14] the other bug is about not honouring gtk settings [22:15] ok unduped [22:15] the upstream is a dupe according to the descriptions [22:15] asac: no, it is correct according to the descriptions [22:15] and the LCD bug is what we're looking at as well [22:16] there might be anotehr bug, but that would be another bug [22:16] well the descrption says its ugly [22:17] not honouring hinting makes it much more ugly than the lcd patch [22:17] at least afaik [22:17] we are concerend about both [22:17] but the gtk setting not honoured is the real bad thing that isnt known and needs escalation [22:17] lcd setting is known for ages [22:17] err [22:17] asac: fine, but the reporter references the LCD patch and fringing, same as the other bug [22:17] lcd patch [22:18] asac: we should open a new bug then instead of hijacking [22:18] yes [22:18] well [22:18] wasnt there one? [22:18] asac: are you referring to bug 379761? [22:18] Launchpad bug 379761 in fontconfig "MASTER - FF 3.5 font hinting does not honour gnome-settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379761 [22:18] i mean the one from kees is lcd patch [22:18] right [22:18] well not [22:18] let me check [22:18] yeah, I didn't have a chance to look for upstream yet [22:18] that was a different bug [22:19] micahg: i think we had a bug from llstarks [22:19] did you dupe anything into kees bug=? [22:19] maybe... [22:19] ok so lets use 379761 for that one [22:19] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/512561 [22:19] that one [22:19] Ubuntu bug 512561 in firefox "Firefox-3.6 doesn't respect font settings (dup-of: 512615)" [Undecided,New] [22:19] Ubuntu bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] [22:19] is not the same as kees [22:20] and i think https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/513309 probably too ... but that is questionable [22:20] Ubuntu bug 513309 in firefox "Font rendering in new Firefox 3.6 package is a regression (dup-of: 512615)" [Undecided,Invalid] [22:20] asac: I didn't set that one... [22:20] 512561 is the important one ... the lcd bug i am sure isnt that important [22:20] once the hinting is fixed [22:20] did i? [22:20] asac: so, I should use the old font hinting bug then? [22:20] me looks [22:20] asac: no, someone else [22:20] no [22:20] that one is old [22:21] its a different one that had to do with fontconfig rules [22:21] asac: so ,make that one you just pointed out teh master? [22:21] Firefox-3.6 doesn't respect font settings [22:21] that one is the new master [22:21] yes [22:21] 512561 [22:21] done [22:21] and link it to the bug i unduped upstream [22:21] thanks [22:21] asac: no, the upstream bug was hijacked [22:22] ok, we need to update the title of the upstream bug then [22:22] why? [22:22] i stated it clearly now in the bug [22:22]