[01:40] <jakent> nvidia drivers are killing me ... can't get the HDMI sound to work... AND the resolution is just unfixable
[02:31] <ahhughes_> jakent, out of curiosity... what card have you got?
[02:32] <jakent> the built in for the GeForce 9200 motherboard
[02:33] <jakent> reading all these articles over on nvnews ...
[02:34] <rhpot1991> jakent: 1. check your bios to make sure its set for hdmi output (for both video and sound)
[02:34] <jakent> yeah, checked that... works under Vista
[02:35] <jakent> updating all the various pieces parts now ... will give it a try again in a bit
[02:35] <rhpot1991> if you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <rhpot1991> should see hints as to what is going on
[02:36] <rhpot1991> jakent: might be worth trying to update your bios as well
[02:36] <rhpot1991> jakent: and I'm assuming you actually installed the nvidia restricted drivers, correct?
[02:36] <jakent> yes... updated to the latest version off the nvidia site from source
[02:37] <jakent> which has screwed up the resolutions... and killing me w/ over scan
[02:37] <rhpot1991> hmmm I prob wouldn't do that
[02:37] <rhpot1991> if you want something newer, enable our daily builds 190.56 (I think) is in there
[02:37] <rhpot1991> 190.53, I was close
[02:40] <jakent> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/m2a370d3b
[02:41] <jakent> hrm...
[02:41] <jakent> so, question one, focusing on video
[02:42] <jakent> actually, never mind, I think this problem is due to the flatscreen
[02:42] <jakent> though it worked fine with the ubuntu drivers, not the nvidia
[02:44] <rhpot1991> Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 720
[02:45] <rhpot1991> it detected 720p, sounds about right to me
[02:48] <jakent> yes, whch is what my screen sHOULD be
[02:48] <jakent> however, i can only see the middle 2/3s of the screen...
[02:48] <jakent> majority of the chrome around the desktop is off screen... can get to it and click it just can't see it
[02:49] <jakent> doesn't have that problem when i don't use the NVidia driver... and that resolution
[02:51] <theduck> hello, i have an original xbox and would like to know if I can run mythbuntu as a mythtv frontend to watch movies on my network without actually installing it on the xbox?
[02:52] <rhpot1991> theduck: you are going to need to install on it
[02:52] <rhpot1991> and as far as I know the packages for it are incredibly out of date
[02:53] <rhpot1991> theduck: you could do some research and see if you can run an up to date XBMC version on it, that should be able to connect to a backend
[02:53] <rhpot1991> jakent: sounds like overscan
[02:53] <theduck> ok.  thx.
[02:54] <jakent> rhpot1991: yeah... ideas on correcting for it?
[02:54] <rhpot1991> jakent: there is normally a little bit that goes off the screen, for instance I can't see the menu on mine
[02:54] <jakent> i can see a single line of grey at the bottom of my screen
[02:54] <rhpot1991> jakent: well you can google and tweak your nvidia settings, or you can find out how to make your tv stop doing this (not all can, but thats the correct fix)
[02:55] <rhpot1991> jakent: most of the time if you don't use hdmi it goes away, if you use vga or dvi instead
[02:55] <jakent> yeah, seeing that as well
[02:55] <rhpot1991> or some tvs let you specify what kind of mode the input is, and normally you can choose pc or "just scan" or something similar that doesn't do overscan
[02:55] <rhpot1991> jakent: personally I live with it
[02:55] <rhpot1991> its annoying on some setup menus, but thats what vnc is for
[02:56] <rhpot1991> and then you don't get the garbage on the top and bottom of your video on your screen
[02:56] <jakent> rhpot1991; yes, been using vnc for that very reason
[03:09] <jakent> so... to use this like I want to use it... looks like I should probably revert back to Vista...
[03:09] <jakent> i can run the mythtv front end there
[03:09] <jakent> plus then the remote will work again i guess
[03:09] <jakent> i'll sleep on it for a day or two before i do something so dramatic
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> How do I actually delete shows i've recorded?  I select Delete from the menu, but the space is not changing.  Reason I ask, my drive is 100% full.
[04:18] <rhpot1991> ZykoticK9: by default it does a "slow delete"
[04:18] <rhpot1991> eventually they should start deleting
[04:18] <rhpot1991> you can disable that in mythtv-setup if you want
[04:20] <ZykoticK9> rhpot1991, thanks, was just doing some reading research about the "delete" / "slow delete"
[04:21] <rhpot1991> ZykoticK9: ya it didn't use to be default but changed somewhere around the .22 release
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> rhpot1991, and it's in mythtv-setup not the Setup in the frontend?
[04:22] <ZykoticK9> rhpot1991, nevermind - being in mythtv-setup only makes sense
[04:23] <rhpot1991> ZykoticK9: ya its the first option (general, I think)
[04:23] <rhpot1991> a few pages in
[04:44] <dragon> Has anyone successfully connected MythTV to a comcast cable box?
[04:45] <rhpot1991> dragon: lots of ways to connect it, you should be more specific :)
[04:46] <dragon> I'd like to use a box with Mythbuntu as a DVR, and plug it into the comcast cable box to provide a backend of some sort.
[04:46] <dragon> rhpot1991: ^
[04:47] <dragon> I'm still a little unsure about how Mythbuntu and the cable box fit in the scenario.
[04:47] <rhpot1991> dragon: ok so I see you as having 2 choices
[04:47] <rhpot1991> !firewire | dragon
[04:47] <Zinn> dragon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Firewire
[04:47] <rhpot1991> thats the not so great choice
[04:47] <rhpot1991> can be flaky, but is practically free (if it works at all)
[04:47] <rhpot1991> or the hauppauge hd-pvr 1212
[04:48] <rhpot1991> dragon: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html
[04:48] <Zinn> [www.hauppauge.com] HD PVR Product overview
[04:48] <dragon> rhpot1991: cable box's firewire is enabled, so that sounds feasible. I'll look into the HD PVR thing.
[04:48] <rhpot1991> dragon: I have used firewire for the longest time
[04:48] <rhpot1991> sine I got my hd-pvr I don't anymore
[04:49] <rhpot1991> sine
[04:49] <rhpot1991> since
[04:49] <rhpot1991> firewire is not very reliable, so it all depends on your situation
[04:50] <dragon> rhpot1991: did you use firewire with your cable box?
[04:50] <rhpot1991> yes, 3 of them
[04:50] <dragon> did cable box recognize it as an attached DVR by any chance?
[04:50] <rhpot1991> and still have one hooked up (just in case)
[04:50] <rhpot1991> you set it up in mythtv-setup as a tuner
[04:52] <dragon> rhpot1991: What are the chances that mythtv installation will be able to communicate with it? Windows requires some drivers, but I do realize that Linux is superior.
[04:52] <rhpot1991> dragon: depends on the model and how locked down your cable company has it
[04:53] <rhpot1991> dragon: has a lot to do with your location normally, for instance I'm pretty lucky with it but I know a lot of people who don't get anything
[04:54] <dragon> I'm not sure about the model. Comcast has like wiped out all the labels etc. I got into the diagnostic screen and found out that USB and Ethernet are disabled, but firewire is enabled.
[04:54] <rhpot1991> my motorolas say it in the top right of the black covering on the front
[04:54] <dragon> I'm in California, if that matters.
[04:55] <rhpot1991> no idea
[04:55] <rhpot1991> could google to see if others in your area report success
[04:55] <dragon> This is a smaller box with no display screen, 4 LEDs in front, couple of ports in the back but mostly disabled.
[05:00] <dragon> I'd try firewire and see if that works. Thanks for the info rhpot1991!
[05:00] <rhpot1991> dragon: actually has firewire on the back?
[05:00] <rhpot1991> I've seen the little ones without firewire
[05:00] <dragon> rhpot1991: positive
[05:05] <dragon> My plan was to make the cable box see MythTV backend as a DVR, so I could play the recordings on that box. From what I'm reading about firewire, it's a one-way data-stream.
[05:05] <dragon> that box = cable box
[05:07] <rhpot1991> well mythtv would be your dvr, and the cable box is a tuner for mythtv
[05:07] <rhpot1991> does that make sense?
[05:07] <dragon> rhpot1991: yes. That'd let me record TV programs to MythTV for later viewing.
[05:07] <rhpot1991> no
[05:07] <rhpot1991> that will let you record with mythtv
[05:08] <rhpot1991> you cannot touch any recordings on your dvr
[05:08] <rhpot1991> and by dvr I mean the comcast one
[05:08] <dragon> The cable box's inbuilt DVR is disabled and comcast pretends that it doesn't have one.
[05:09] <dragon> I understand that it'd let me record to MythTV but I won't be able to view them through the cable box.
[05:09] <dragon> Is that correct?
[05:09] <rhpot1991> yes
[05:09] <rhpot1991> you would use mythtv to record and play back
[05:09] <rhpot1991> imagine recording to a vcr
[05:10] <dragon> got it
[05:12] <dragon> rhpot1991: Can the cable box communicate with MythTV in any way besides transmitting analog A/V?
[05:12] <dragon> I'm thinking TV listings etc.
[05:14] <rhpot1991> nope
[05:14] <rhpot1991> for tv listings you want schedules direct
[05:17] <dragon> got it. I just realized it's a law that requires cable companies to leave firewire enabled.
[05:20] <dragon> I'm off to installing and trying it.
[05:20] <dragon> thanks once again rhpot1991
[05:20] <rhpot1991> np good luck
[12:47] <Memphis{away}> Hey guys, just setup a new system running Mythbuntu 9.10 32bit, e3200, geforce 9300 with vdpau for decoding. Problem is that when I am rewinding livetv and I try and rewind back to the start of viewing ~0 seconds, it segfaults
[12:47] <Memphis{away}> and mythfrontend crashes
[13:27] <mrand> Memphis: are you running the latest 0.22 autobuilds?  If so, could you enable -dbg by following the directions here: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging#Basic_Backtrace
[13:27] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Debugging - MythTV
[14:13] <stuarticus> Anyone have any experience of adding xbox 360 controllers to 9.10?
[14:14] <stuarticus> Trying to et one working for mythgame
[14:34] <stuarticus> Xbox 360 pad? Anyone know how?
[14:39] <mrand> stuarticus: google turns up the following: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Joystick_Control and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=825464
[14:39] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Joystick Control - MythTV
[15:00] <stuarticus>   jscalibrator has been dropped from repo
[15:00] <stuarticus> 360 pad isn't showing up in dev/input
[15:00] <stuarticus> can see it via lsusb though
[15:03] <stuarticus> The how-to looks good though, will try, thanks mrand
[15:17] <Memphis> Zinn: I'll do the dbg thing tomorrow afternoon. I really got to get some sleep first however (it's 1am here)
[15:17] <Zinn> Hi Memphis, something I can help you with today?  I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do.
[15:17] <Memphis> *mrand:
[15:18] <Memphis> regarding the version; it's the one that's built into my distro: MythTV Version   : 22594
[15:18] <Memphis> MythTV Branch    : branches/release-0-22-fixes
[15:23] <mrand> Memphis: You'll pick up many bug fixes by enabling 0.22 autobuilds.   The latest is  0.22.0+fixes23473-0ubuntu0+mythbuntu3
[16:13] <mishehu> grrr
[16:13] <mishehu> wonder why myth is refusing to delete a recording
[16:13] <mishehu> I've tried deleting it 5 times now
[16:14] <mishehu> and it won't disappear from the db and the filesystem
[16:15] <gregl> It deletes gracefully,it depends on your file system how fast it deletes...\
[16:16] <mishehu> it keeps showing up in the database though
[16:16] <mishehu> when I go to "watch recordings" the recording is still there
[16:16] <gregl> check your database for a crashed table..
[16:18] <mishehu> better not be...  I just tried to use mythtranscode to export a recording with a cutlist, and it crapped out after about 620mb of what should have been around 2.6gb
[16:19] <gregl> I had one once that would delete and then show up a few days later..It was a crashed table that caused that..
[16:19] <mishehu> ...the problem of using MyISAM
[16:19] <mishehu> I've yet to experience a crashed database or table in InnoDB
[16:22] <mishehu> hmm odd, I'm wrong
[16:22] <mishehu> the original for hat file was 722mb
[16:22] <mishehu> weird.  and it was on atsc.  guess it's not 1080p  :-)
[16:32] <mishehu> ugh I have to look up how to do the equilavent of REPAIR TABLE (SHOW TABLES) or something like that
[18:03] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[18:04] <kristian-aalborg> a friend asked me if I knew of some PC DVR software, and I of course said that I'd heard of Myth
[18:04] <kristian-aalborg> question is, is it suitable as a "beginners" linux thing?
[18:20] <mortini> using mythbuntu, it's not that difficult to configure, assuming reasonable hardware, imo
[18:20] <mrand> kristian-aalborg: it is close, but it depends on the user and what hardware it is being installed on.  Linux (and Ubuntu as well as other distro's) are very solid OS's.  MythTV is somewhat complicated, and Mythbuntu softens most of those corners.  Even still, MythTV itself should probably be considered beta software.
[18:21] <mrand> very difficult question to answer without knowing the person.
[18:21] <kristian-aalborg> compared to starting using ubuntu, how hard would it be to setup a working mythtv?
[18:21] <mortini> hardware is the biggest thing
[18:21] <kristian-aalborg> mrand: guess you're right... this is a person's who's above average with computers but new to linux
[18:22] <mortini> if they have an unsupported encoder card, it could be a huge pain, or only a moderatly supported one
[18:23] <kristian-aalborg> you mean the graphics card which is connected to the tv?
[18:24] <mortini> yes
[18:29] <mortini> for example, i'm running 9.04, but to get the PVR-150 IR blaster to work properly, i have to follow some instructions on another webpage
[18:30] <kristian-aalborg> ah
[18:30] <kristian-aalborg> well.... I guess said person just have to give it a try
[18:30] <kristian-aalborg> I take it making a dual boot is as easy as with ubuntu?
[18:31] <mortini> yeah, give it a try
[18:33] <kristian-aalborg> okay
[18:33] <kristian-aalborg> thanks ppl
[19:36] <boludiko> hi
[19:36] <boludiko> i have a question... how can i change the size for the subs?