[04:15] <Flannel> freenode being attacked?
[04:59] <mneptok> @login
[07:24] <jussi01> does anyone know guy van sanden's nick?
[07:27] <Flannel> jussi01: nocturn
[07:27] <jussi01> Flannel: ahh, thanks
[07:29] <mneptok> i thought it was "i❤jussi"
[07:30] <Tm_T> mneptok: it was, but not anymore
[07:31] <mneptok> now it's i_✂_jussi
[08:09] <ikonia> tsimpson: thank you for sorting out arizona time wasters
[08:09] <dholbach> good morning
[08:26] <Myrtti> a new kernel? wow.
[08:29] <mneptok> Ubuntu switched to HURD
[08:34] <topyli> ubuntu gnu/gnu
[08:34] <jussi01> morning all
[08:36] <Myrtti> ho hum
[08:43] <jussi01> ROCK on Oulu has google goodness also!
[09:05] <topyli> tapanila as well. i just peeked at Ulla of the Sea and Arvi the Sports Encyclopaedia chilling outside my favorite pub in the summer
[09:05] <Myrtti> ssssshhhh.
[09:05] <Myrtti> offtopic!
[09:06] <Myrtti> resume your idling!
[09:15] <topyli> zooming in, that's not in fact ulla but topyli :)
[11:16] <Myrtti> !away > linucks[afk]
[11:17] <Myrtti> let's see what kind of a storm that stirs up
[11:25] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:25] <Myrtti> I'm not patient enough
[11:27] <bazhang> ugh
[11:28] <Myrtti> ghnnannaahhahhaha
[11:30] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:30] <Myrtti> they're giving help to setup xampp
[11:31]  * MenZa pokes `sudo tasksel`
[11:31] <ikonia> xampp is not supported
[11:32] <jussi01> !lamp
[11:32] <Myrtti> I know, but I've given up
[11:32] <Myrtti> you go ahead and guide them
[11:32] <bazhang> he's calling it 'lampp'
[11:32] <Myrtti> I'm having a lunch break
[11:32] <ikonia> ok, lets look
[11:33] <jussi01> Peoples, If you have people who are giving bad advice, feel free to invite them to join #ubuntu-irc-helpers and help them get educated. there are a lot of people who could become very good helpers if they learned how to help.
[11:35] <Myrtti> jussi01: and I still think that channel is stupid idea, and I'm not there personally, so I don't feel comfortable inviting anyone there.
[11:35] <MenZa> I've suggested the repository lamp stack instead, and I'm guiding him through it now.
[11:37] <jussi01> Myrtti: thats fine, you are welcome to have your thoughts and actions. However, there are others here who do see it as useful.
[12:08] <bazhang> whoops sorry
[12:09] <Myrtti> no probs
[12:20] <Myrtti> NullCounter is really starting to annoy me
[12:56] <Pici> Myrtti: is it?
[12:57] <Myrtti> a bit
[12:57] <Pici> Myrtti: gone
[12:58] <Myrtti> Pici: then again, I could have put it on ignore
[12:58] <Pici> Myrtti: No, I have a better way of getting the data, just need to figure out perl first though.
[14:32]  * genii makes coffee
[14:45]  * gnomefreak closed the window too fast. did anyone else get a PM from someone speaking in <insert language here>?
[14:45] <Myrtti> kicked already
[14:45] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: thanks
[16:30] <eagles0513875> hey jussi01 i am here
[16:30] <jussi01> Hiya eagles0513875.
[16:30] <eagles0513875> two weeks ago you told me to come back and talk to you about my bans
[16:31] <jussi01> sure :)
[16:31] <eagles0513875> any chance that i can get my bans lifted
[16:31] <jussi01> eagles0513875: Ive thought about it a fair bit, and you want to contribute to ubuntu/kubuntu, is that correct?
[16:31] <eagles0513875> yes it is
[16:32] <eagles0513875> and i have been with ubuntu-mozilla team and asac a bit but had to put it on hold due to college getting a bit hectic this yr
[16:32] <jussi01> eagles0513875: ok, what behaviour do you feel is correct in a devel channel?
[16:32] <ikonia> I'm curious as to why you need access to those channels to contribute ?
[16:32] <eagles0513875> firstly one needs to know what they are doign to be in a devel channel. and only discussion in a developers channel is development related topics
[16:33] <jussi01> ikonia: and others, please leave this conversation to me for now.
[16:33] <eagles0513875> just like kubuntu is support devel channels are for development only
[16:34] <jussi01> eagles0513875: ok, great. so do you understand why you were banned last time?
[16:34] <eagles0513875> yes
[16:34] <eagles0513875> and motu i was offtopic i believe as well in that channel
[16:35] <eagles0513875> that channel is for discussion of new packages or to update existing packages any other discussion is offtopic
[16:35] <eagles0513875> and inappropriate
[16:36] <jussi01> eagles0513875: also, do you understand you shouldnt say you can do things that you cannot commit to?
[16:36] <eagles0513875> that as well i have learned its best to keep my mouth shut
[16:36] <eagles0513875> sometimes i admit i do have a big mouth and sometimes say stuff before thinking
[16:38] <eagles0513875> jussi01: i believe one of the bans was for ban evading cuz i used a different nick on irc as well that was totally on accident
[16:40] <jussi01> eagles0513875: ok, can you commit to keeping it relevant and truthful in development channels?
[16:40] <eagles0513875> yes
[16:40] <eagles0513875> it might be some time before i woudl head in there
[16:40] <eagles0513875> if i dont need to be in there i wont idle in there
[16:41] <jussi01> eagles0513875: which particular area are you looking to contribute in, where do you feel your talents work best?
[16:41] <eagles0513875> testing but that is for everyone. i would also really like to pick up packaging
[16:43] <jussi01> Ok, here is what I will do, I am going to provisionally unban you from #ubuntu-motu. However, I will replace the ban without notice if there are complaints or I notice that you are not contributing positively to the channel.
[16:43] <eagles0513875> what if i dont go in there at all
[16:43] <jussi01> eagles0513875: then there is no need for me to ban you again :)
[16:44] <eagles0513875> just also would like to get into bug fixing but right now i think it would be best to wait as my programming knowledge isnt the greatest
[16:44] <jussi01> eagles0513875: I want that you can contribute, but your past behaviour gives me warnings. start with one item and others will flow from it.
[16:45] <eagles0513875> my thoughts exactly
[16:45] <eagles0513875> since my programming knowledge is quite limited atm i think i would best be put to good use packaging :) as im quite versatile with the command line
[16:45] <jussi01> eagles0513875: ok, so I will now unban you from #ubuntu-motu, please use your time in there wisely and respectfully.
[16:45] <ikonia> don't lie
[16:46] <jussi01> ikonia: not now please.
[16:46] <eagles0513875> ikonia: im not lying i prefer using command line over alot of the gui front ends that are available in kubuntu
[16:46] <ikonia> I don't see how a gui has anything to do with packaging
[16:47] <eagles0513875> packaging is all command line based
[16:47] <eagles0513875> im quite used to navigating my way around the command line is what im trying to say. lately i have been compiling alot of stuff from source now i just need to figure out how to package it
[16:47] <ikonia> but you don't know the commands
[16:47] <jussi01> eagles0513875: as i mentioned, please use your access to #ubuntu-motu wisely. Have a nice day.
[16:47] <jussi01> ikonia: please.
[16:47]  * gnomefreak feels stupid enough so im not posting this to list. am i John and if so what did i say :(
[16:47] <eagles0513875> thanks jussi01
[16:47] <ikonia> jussi01: no
[16:48] <ikonia> jussi01: I'm sorry - but htis is just a repeat of the smame old stuff
[16:48] <ikonia> publicly log my total dissaproval for that
[16:49] <jussi01> ikonia: he gets a chance, if he messes it up, he is gone again.
[16:49] <Mamarok> jussi01: you are aware that there will be a big mess in no time, aren't you?
[16:49] <ikonia> he's got many chances
[16:49] <ikonia> =he's blown them
[16:49]  * Mamarok gives him a week at most
[16:49] <ikonia> he's still talking nonsense in #kubuntu-offtopic about learning C and packaging
[16:49] <ikonia> it's total lies and time wasting of peoples resources
[16:49] <gnomefreak> he has his days. but agreed he asks about it a bit much
[16:49] <ikonia> if you want to unban him - fine, but I'm logging my disagremment with that
[16:49] <jussi01> ikonia: its not going to be there very long.
[16:50] <ikonia> what's not ?
[16:50] <jussi01> his unbanning, if what you say is true. Ill be keeping an eye on him.
[16:51] <ikonia> I totally disagree
[16:52] <ikonia> and I'm a bit frustrated that multiple ops have made it clear they don't believe he should be involved in those channels
[16:52] <ikonia> but that's your call to make
[17:30] <Myrtti> deliim comes from an ip with troubled
[17:31] <Myrtti> troubles before
[18:25]  * Mamarok is seriously doubting about the soberness of some people in #kubuntu...
[18:29] <Myrtti> !no, es is <reply> En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[18:35] <Mamarok> OK, food time, can somebody have a look at #kubuntu, please? Some people in there are not really sober apparently
[18:47] <Pici> !bot > skylineR390
[19:04]  * genii checks to make sure he's here
[20:17] <Myrtti> is it just me, or does the stuff ejvk34 says feel very unrelated?
[20:19] <Seveas> http://www.kaarsemaker.net/static/downloads/code/chanserv.py -- now works with new freenode
[20:21] <Myrtti> I guess that answered that question
[20:22] <Myrtti> Seveas: thanks :-)
[20:24] <Seveas> Do you mind if I hang around a bit to support it? Since I don't do any active op'ing myself I might not see some bugs so it's easier to just hang in here and wait for people to complai about brokenness
[20:25] <Myrtti> I don't use it myself so I have no opinion in either way
[20:25] <Seveas> It's pretty much a full rewrite so bugs may pop up
[20:43] <Myrtti> MK-BB: hi, how can we help you?
[20:47] <tsimpson> Seveas: just testing it out, I noticed you can't set a real-name or account ban, except with lart
[20:47] <tsimpson> other than that, it seems to work great
[20:47] <Seveas> tsimpson, /cs ban -r nickname here
[20:48] <Seveas> tsimpson, /cs ban $r:realname
[20:48] <Seveas> same for -a / $a
[20:48] <tsimpson> oh right, /me reads the source properly
[20:48] <Seveas> /cs lart is nothing more than /cs ban -nihra :)
[20:51] <tsimpson> well that works great then
[21:06] <tsimpson> MK-BB: please don't idle here unless you need us
[21:06] <tsimpson> Seveas: the remove message cut-off ;)
[21:08] <Seveas> I did mention bugs, didn't I :)
[21:08] <Seveas> (fixed now)
[21:29] <Seveas> some more issues fixed: kickban failed, ban for gateway/* users now defaults to *!(ident)@gateway/*
[21:30] <Myrtti> does mute do +z too
[21:30] <Seveas> no
[22:27] <ikonia> Seveas: kudos to you
[23:13] <bazhang> some very nonsense comments from by_your_command
[23:14] <ikonia> agreed