| mr_steve | I think in the future when setting up automatic SMART monitoring of my disks, I need to remember the importance of at least running a short self-test | 01:00 |
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| h00k | mr_steve: Ubuntu has a disk...thing that monitors it and will notify you if it's bad | 01:01 |
| mr_steve | palimpsest, yup. If they've worked the bugs out. This is a server tho. | 01:01 |
| h00k | Yeah, that. | 01:02 |
| mr_steve | it has the same problem that bit me, I don't think it runs self-tests. | 01:03 |
| mr_steve | All my reported SMART attrs were fine, actually they still are. But the self-test hits an error every other sector | 01:04 |
| Takyoji | Ooo, Bespin is spiffy.. | 01:10 |
| Takyoji | (and easy to install) | 01:10 |
| Takyoji | Written in Python in fact | 01:15 |
| Takyoji | Oh, I still haven't pushed that change yet.. | 01:24 |
| Takyoji | I really should find a convenient application for a category-based todo list | 01:26 |
| Takyoji | That would also be easily accessible from the gnome-panel, and where it's minimal clicks to add something new to the list | 01:27 |
| Takyoji | Finally committed the change. Hopefully it worked | 01:29 |
| mr_steve | Takyoji, I'm thinking about a patch for Getting Things Gnome that adds a tray icon or panel applet. Interested? | 01:30 |
| mr_steve | ALthough GTG is kinda clunky still | 01:31 |
| Takyoji | That would be convenient | 01:31 |
| Takyoji | Or perhaps something that could bind with other applications as well; but then that may become "complex" | 01:31 |
| Takyoji | i.e. something that would add to the calendar/list in Evolution | 01:31 |
| mr_steve | Gnome-Do + Tasque is decent too, Tasque can use evolution-data-server as a backend. It can sync to rememberthemilk.com too, I believe | 01:32 |
| mr_steve | personally I'm probably going to end up coding my own task manager, nothing really seems to fit my particular organizational style | 01:34 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 01:35 |
| Takyoji | I would be able to live with something that solely resides as a gnome-panel applet. | 01:36 |
| Takyoji | I mean, that would pretty much be optimal for me | 01:36 |
| mr_steve | yeah, that's basically what I have in mind when I get around to writing my own | 01:41 |
| mr_steve | Something with a panel applet and a global keybinding to pop up a quick add-task dialog | 01:41 |
| mr_steve | and natural language parsing like RTM and Google Calender would be a nice bonus | 01:42 |
| Takyoji | yea | 01:42 |
| Takyoji | Two-way syncing is possible with Google Calendar, correct? | 01:42 |
| mr_steve | Yup | 01:42 |
| mr_steve | Evolution can do it | 01:43 |
| Takyoji | Yea, I believe I recall that | 01:43 |
| Takyoji | or at least is supposed to | 01:43 |
| mr_steve | Yeah. My school of thought is that if Evolution can do it, I sure can too. cuz evo rarely does anything properly... | 01:45 |
| Takyoji | heh | 01:45 |
| mr_steve | I was toying with Anjal, the minimal/netbook frontend to Evolution mail | 01:45 |
| mr_steve | So now I use Mutt. | 01:46 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 01:46 |
| Takyoji | I'm such a paranoid individual. | 01:52 |
| Takyoji | I don't trust accessing my Google account in public at all | 01:53 |
| Takyoji | Unless if I boot a LiveCD, and it's a nice HTTP over TLS connection. | 01:53 |
| mr_steve | until very recently, I'd usually just ssh into my server, where I had irssi and mutt running in screen | 01:53 |
| Takyoji | Random curiosity: What do any of you name your servers/workstations? | 01:55 |
| Takyoji | (in terms of the hostname for example) | 01:55 |
| mr_steve | my laptop is yogzotot and my netbook is nyogtha, my server was bender, but it'll get a new name now that it's a new install on new hardware | 01:56 |
| Takyoji | My primary workstation is timber-wolf, my mother's system is just family-computer, this laptop is "caleb-laptop" I think (although I may change it to something more creative), and the first system I ever installed Linux on was called canis-lupus | 01:58 |
| Takyoji | which happened to be Debian | 01:58 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: fort-frances, kapuskasing, atikokan, dryden, thornloe, latchford, mattawa, sudbury, moosonee, geraldton, nipigon, and hearst. | 01:59 |
| Takyoji | Our linux systems; they | 02:00 |
| Takyoji | Our Linux systems; they're just like children to us. :P | 02:01 |
| Takyoji | So I take it that's in Ojibwe? | 02:01 |
| * tonyyarusso may or may not already have the hostnames and IP addresses of around a hundred potential future systems / VMs predetermined.... | 02:01 | |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: No, those are city names in northern Ontario. | 02:02 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 02:02 |
| Takyoji | Anyone memorize their WAN IP address(es)? :P | 02:02 |
| tonyyarusso | My WAN IP is semi-dynamic, so no. | 02:02 |
| Takyoji | Aww | 02:02 |
| Takyoji | Mine has been the same for at least 2 years now | 02:02 |
| tonyyarusso | at last check is was 174.something, but even the first octet occasionally rotates | 02:03 |
| Takyoji | And thankfully it's easy to remember | 02:03 |
| Takyoji | Mine is 24 177 111 78 | 02:03 |
| Takyoji | Hack me, now! :o | 02:03 |
| tonyyarusso | I have dyndns set up though, and as a backup every minute cron writes the IP to a file on my VPS as well. | 02:04 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 02:04 |
| tonyyarusso | I do however memorize the internal IPs, which I also use for remote access | 02:04 |
| tonyyarusso | (external port numbers based on the service and internal IP point at each machine) | 02:05 |
| tonyyarusso | I also actually have hostnames defined for each interface on each device, in case I ever wanted to run a chroot with a different IP on them. And there's a block of hostnames allocated to systems capable of hardware virtualization. | 02:06 |
| Takyoji | I remember all my LAN IPs | 02:06 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 02:06 |
| tonyyarusso | and the IP addresses are grouped by device/service type in case I want to write subnet firewall rules later | 02:07 |
| tonyyarusso | scratch that earlier statement; the actual number I have pre-determined is 53. | 02:08 |
| Takyoji | tonyyarusso: I finally pushed that fix to the Bazaar repository | 02:08 |
| tonyyarusso | oh, and I have 6 in a separate class entirely that I don't know what I'll do with yet. Maybe that will be for a cluster :P | 02:09 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: yay | 02:10 |
| tonyyarusso | Thus also confirming that group permissions are working :) | 02:10 |
| Takyoji | 4 days that I completely forgot to push the change. | 02:10 |
| Takyoji | Woo | 02:10 |
| tonyyarusso | now to figure out how to merge your change into production... | 02:22 |
| * h00k merges tonyyarusso with 'awesome' | 02:36 | |
| Takyoji | I have yet to ever use irssi | 02:49 |
| * Takyoji wonders if tonyyarusso secretly sold off his (Takyoji's) 8P8C cables.. | 02:51 | |
| h00k | irssi is pretty sweet. | 02:52 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: nope | 02:59 |
| mr_steve | irssi is awesome | 03:06 |
| mr_steve | Hm I need moar disk | 03:06 |
| mr_steve | So, what exactly does it take for ubuntu-mn to become an approved team? | 03:12 |
| kermit | mr_steve: approved by who for what? | 03:12 |
| mr_steve | Approved by the Ubuntu LoCo team as an "Approved" Team | 03:13 |
| mr_steve | tonyyarusso, ? | 03:13 |
| Takyoji | Like 3-5 Ubuntu members I believe | 03:15 |
| tonyyarusso | it's a bit more complicated that that - it's a measure of sustained activity and contribution | 03:16 |
| Takyoji | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved | 03:17 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah, that | 03:17 |
| mr_steve | So, I should definitely keep up the Ubuntu Hours, as well as my packaging and triage efforts, then | 03:17 |
| tonyyarusso | (wiki won't load for me atm) | 03:17 |
| Takyoji | Yea, it was slow for me as well | 03:18 |
| Takyoji | The wiki and Launchpad seem a little slow/unresponsive tonight | 03:18 |
| Takyoji | at times | 03:21 |
| Takyoji | So did I break something? :P | 03:21 |
| mr_steve | I cannot for the life of me figure out the best way to partition 65.9 GB of disk for a new server install | 03:25 |
| mr_steve | Anyone know what a sensible size for / on an ubuntu server would be? | 03:27 |
| Takyoji | I'd estimate about 6GB or below | 03:28 |
| Takyoji | in terms of being minimalistic | 03:28 |
| mr_steve | with or without a seperate /usr? | 03:28 |
| Takyoji | though it could probably be even less since a server installation is typically quite smaller than a desktop installation | 03:28 |
| * Takyoji wonders if tonyyarusso is poking at the website still yet | 03:33 | |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: Yeah - upstream goofed up so I'm having some trouble merging in changes from them. | 03:34 |
| tonyyarusso | Since we modified style.css, and then they moved it to css/style.css, but manually instead of with bzr mv. | 03:35 |
| Takyoji | ahh | 03:36 |
| Takyoji | It's kind of interesting some movies secretly have a FOSS app used in them. | 03:44 |
| Takyoji | For example, nmap in The Matrix (and a couple other movies as well) | 03:44 |
| Takyoji | Audacity was in Paranormal Activity. | 03:44 |
| mr_steve | Heh I definitely remember that from the Matrix. Nmap and sshnuke. | 03:45 |
| Takyoji | Some Linux distro was obviously used in the movie "Antitrust" | 03:45 |
| Takyoji | A GRUB boot loader selection screen was used in some comic. :P | 03:46 |
| Takyoji | http://www.ubuntudaily.com/wp-content/uploads/1185408112656.jpg xP | 03:46 |
| Takyoji | Hah, I get such a laugh out of that. xP | 03:47 |
| Takyoji | I don't get the point of space-based indentation over tab-based. | 04:14 |
| tonyyarusso | Me neither - it's silly. | 04:19 |
| tonyyarusso | all right, bunch o' changes all merged up. | 04:21 |
| Takyoji | What would be our next step at world domination? | 04:31 |
| Takyoji | as a sidenote; I can't login through the typical Launchpad module. The way I'd be able to login was by manually inserting my OpenID URL | 04:33 |
| * Obsidian1723 night all. | 04:38 | |
| mr_steve | wow I hate CD drives that sounds like a leafblower | 05:08 |
| Takyoji | heheheh | 05:09 |
| Takyoji | Same | 05:09 |
| Takyoji | Usually I'd never have a disc in the other system I'd use. Because it would even just simple idle and make horrendous noise | 05:10 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/user , manually add your OpenID URL to your profile (note that you need the nonsense one, not the username one). | 05:10 |
| Takyoji | just simply* | 05:10 |
| mr_steve | yeah this drive is awful, I should have tried USB instead | 05:10 |
| Takyoji | I don't have my password. xP | 05:11 |
| Takyoji | Otherwise you might be able to manually add it | 05:11 |
| tonyyarusso | yeah, I can | 05:11 |
| tonyyarusso | or I could try something else | 05:11 |
| Takyoji | otherwise I'll be leaving for the nigh | 05:14 |
| tonyyarusso | someone tell Takyoji to visit http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/openid later. | 05:42 |
| kermit | no | 09:10 |
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| Takyoji | Snow day; though I just slept through most of it | 19:32 |
| Takyoji | Ooo, new KDE release | 19:43 |
| Takyoji | and their nifty website redesign | 19:43 |
| mr_steve | ugh, prdownloads.sourceforge.net is acting up | 19:45 |
| tonyyarusso | http://failblog.org/2010/01/20/cd-fail/ | 19:47 |
| mr_steve | heheh whoops | 19:47 |
| mr_steve | yay prdownloads is working again | 19:49 |
| Takyoji | hah nice | 20:51 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/openid | 21:20 |
| Takyoji | Still isn't working as desired | 21:29 |
| Takyoji | Still denied | 21:29 |
| tonyyarusso | uh, that's the same login thing that you were using before... | 21:33 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: does login fail both with your password and manual openid? | 21:53 |
| Takyoji | It fails with all combinations of the my OpenID that I give it | 21:54 |
| tonyyarusso | okay, but can you log in with a password? | 21:54 |
| Takyoji | Where's the page for username/password authentication again? | 21:54 |
| tonyyarusso | that will worko on /openid too | 21:55 |
| tonyyarusso | or /user, either way | 21:55 |
| Takyoji | Tried all passwords that I know, none of them worked | 21:56 |
| tonyyarusso | okayyyyy | 21:57 |
| tonyyarusso | http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/user/password then | 21:57 |
| tonyyarusso | apparently our site got a hit from Morocco | 21:57 |
| Takyoji | Unauthorized | 21:57 |
| tonyyarusso | wth | 21:58 |
| tonyyarusso | Takyoji: try http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/user/password now | 22:06 |
| Takyoji | Went through the form successfully, but haven't received an email yet | 22:07 |
| Takyoji | nothing in the Junk/Spam folders either | 22:08 |
| Takyoji | Sure your mailserver is working or that Drupal is properly configured? | 22:09 |
| tonyyarusso | heh, no | 22:09 |
| tonyyarusso | yay, mailserver misconfiguration. dammit. | 22:12 |
| * tonyyarusso should actually read system mail | 22:12 | |
| Takyoji | Anyone happen to know of how I could have a request for "/some/page" map to "/cache/some/page.shtml" in a .htaccess file? | 22:26 |
| Takyoji | But for pretty much anything | 22:26 |
| Takyoji | and if not, it would resort to the index.php file | 22:27 |
| tonyyarusso | should just be a URL rewrite rule I'd imagine. | 22:34 |
| Takyoji | Perhaps I'm just overanalyizing | 22:35 |
| Takyoji | Should I be horrendously disturbed that the Plesk login page on a server has a .php3 extension...? | 22:58 |
| h00k | I'm geting into a fight with my Tux Droid | 23:16 |
| Takyoji | In what way? :P | 23:16 |
| Takyoji | I wonder how I would be able to somehow benchmark PHP and SSI in terms of performance.. | 23:17 |
| Takyoji | or if I should even just have something all DB-based rather than on the filesystem.. | 23:18 |
| tonyyarusso | h00k: This is why you should have programmed the 3 Laws *first*, not said "eh, I'll get to the good practice stuff later - first, nunchucks!" | 23:21 |
| h00k | tonyyarusso: I know, I know... | 23:23 |
| Takyoji | Would benchmarking in a virtual machine be sane for proper isolation? | 23:29 |
| Takyoji | (for server-related things) | 23:30 |
| Takyoji | Also, public key authentication is much more secure than password-based authentication for SSH, y/n? | 23:32 |
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