[01:00] I think in the future when setting up automatic SMART monitoring of my disks, I need to remember the importance of at least running a short self-test [01:01] mr_steve: Ubuntu has a disk...thing that monitors it and will notify you if it's bad [01:01] palimpsest, yup. If they've worked the bugs out. This is a server tho. [01:02] Yeah, that. [01:03] it has the same problem that bit me, I don't think it runs self-tests. [01:04] All my reported SMART attrs were fine, actually they still are. But the self-test hits an error every other sector [01:10] Ooo, Bespin is spiffy.. [01:10] (and easy to install) [01:15] Written in Python in fact [01:24] Oh, I still haven't pushed that change yet.. [01:26] I really should find a convenient application for a category-based todo list [01:27] That would also be easily accessible from the gnome-panel, and where it's minimal clicks to add something new to the list [01:29] Finally committed the change. Hopefully it worked [01:30] Takyoji, I'm thinking about a patch for Getting Things Gnome that adds a tray icon or panel applet. Interested? [01:31] ALthough GTG is kinda clunky still [01:31] That would be convenient [01:31] Or perhaps something that could bind with other applications as well; but then that may become "complex" [01:31] i.e. something that would add to the calendar/list in Evolution [01:32] Gnome-Do + Tasque is decent too, Tasque can use evolution-data-server as a backend. It can sync to rememberthemilk.com too, I believe [01:34] personally I'm probably going to end up coding my own task manager, nothing really seems to fit my particular organizational style [01:35] ahh [01:36] I would be able to live with something that solely resides as a gnome-panel applet. [01:36] I mean, that would pretty much be optimal for me [01:41] yeah, that's basically what I have in mind when I get around to writing my own [01:41] Something with a panel applet and a global keybinding to pop up a quick add-task dialog [01:42] and natural language parsing like RTM and Google Calender would be a nice bonus [01:42] yea [01:42] Two-way syncing is possible with Google Calendar, correct? [01:42] Yup [01:43] Evolution can do it [01:43] Yea, I believe I recall that [01:43] or at least is supposed to [01:45] Yeah. My school of thought is that if Evolution can do it, I sure can too. cuz evo rarely does anything properly... [01:45] heh [01:45] I was toying with Anjal, the minimal/netbook frontend to Evolution mail [01:46] So now I use Mutt. [01:46] ahh [01:52] I'm such a paranoid individual. [01:53] I don't trust accessing my Google account in public at all [01:53] Unless if I boot a LiveCD, and it's a nice HTTP over TLS connection. [01:53] until very recently, I'd usually just ssh into my server, where I had irssi and mutt running in screen [01:55] Random curiosity: What do any of you name your servers/workstations? [01:55] (in terms of the hostname for example) [01:56] my laptop is yogzotot and my netbook is nyogtha, my server was bender, but it'll get a new name now that it's a new install on new hardware [01:58] My primary workstation is timber-wolf, my mother's system is just family-computer, this laptop is "caleb-laptop" I think (although I may change it to something more creative), and the first system I ever installed Linux on was called canis-lupus [01:58] which happened to be Debian [01:59] Takyoji: fort-frances, kapuskasing, atikokan, dryden, thornloe, latchford, mattawa, sudbury, moosonee, geraldton, nipigon, and hearst. [02:00] Our linux systems; they [02:01] Our Linux systems; they're just like children to us. :P [02:01] So I take it that's in Ojibwe? [02:01] * tonyyarusso may or may not already have the hostnames and IP addresses of around a hundred potential future systems / VMs predetermined.... [02:02] Takyoji: No, those are city names in northern Ontario. [02:02] ahh [02:02] Anyone memorize their WAN IP address(es)? :P [02:02] My WAN IP is semi-dynamic, so no. [02:02] Aww [02:02] Mine has been the same for at least 2 years now [02:03] at last check is was 174.something, but even the first octet occasionally rotates [02:03] And thankfully it's easy to remember [02:03] Mine is 24 177 111 78 [02:03] Hack me, now! :o [02:04] I have dyndns set up though, and as a backup every minute cron writes the IP to a file on my VPS as well. [02:04] ahh [02:04] I do however memorize the internal IPs, which I also use for remote access [02:05] (external port numbers based on the service and internal IP point at each machine) [02:06] I also actually have hostnames defined for each interface on each device, in case I ever wanted to run a chroot with a different IP on them. And there's a block of hostnames allocated to systems capable of hardware virtualization. [02:06] I remember all my LAN IPs [02:06] ahh [02:07] and the IP addresses are grouped by device/service type in case I want to write subnet firewall rules later [02:08] scratch that earlier statement; the actual number I have pre-determined is 53. [02:08] tonyyarusso: I finally pushed that fix to the Bazaar repository [02:09] oh, and I have 6 in a separate class entirely that I don't know what I'll do with yet. Maybe that will be for a cluster :P [02:10] Takyoji: yay [02:10] Thus also confirming that group permissions are working :) [02:10] 4 days that I completely forgot to push the change. [02:10] Woo [02:22] now to figure out how to merge your change into production... [02:36] * h00k merges tonyyarusso with 'awesome' [02:49] I have yet to ever use irssi [02:51] * Takyoji wonders if tonyyarusso secretly sold off his (Takyoji's) 8P8C cables.. [02:52] irssi is pretty sweet. [02:59] Takyoji: nope [03:06] irssi is awesome [03:06] Hm I need moar disk [03:12] So, what exactly does it take for ubuntu-mn to become an approved team? [03:12] mr_steve: approved by who for what? [03:13] Approved by the Ubuntu LoCo team as an "Approved" Team [03:13] tonyyarusso, ? [03:15] Like 3-5 Ubuntu members I believe [03:16] it's a bit more complicated that that - it's a measure of sustained activity and contribution [03:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved [03:17] yeah, that [03:17] So, I should definitely keep up the Ubuntu Hours, as well as my packaging and triage efforts, then [03:17] (wiki won't load for me atm) [03:18] Yea, it was slow for me as well [03:18] The wiki and Launchpad seem a little slow/unresponsive tonight [03:21] at times [03:21] So did I break something? :P [03:25] I cannot for the life of me figure out the best way to partition 65.9 GB of disk for a new server install [03:27] Anyone know what a sensible size for / on an ubuntu server would be? [03:28] I'd estimate about 6GB or below [03:28] in terms of being minimalistic [03:28] with or without a seperate /usr? [03:28] though it could probably be even less since a server installation is typically quite smaller than a desktop installation [03:33] * Takyoji wonders if tonyyarusso is poking at the website still yet [03:34] Takyoji: Yeah - upstream goofed up so I'm having some trouble merging in changes from them. [03:35] Since we modified style.css, and then they moved it to css/style.css, but manually instead of with bzr mv. [03:36] ahh [03:44] It's kind of interesting some movies secretly have a FOSS app used in them. [03:44] For example, nmap in The Matrix (and a couple other movies as well) [03:44] Audacity was in Paranormal Activity. [03:45] Heh I definitely remember that from the Matrix. Nmap and sshnuke. [03:45] Some Linux distro was obviously used in the movie "Antitrust" [03:46] A GRUB boot loader selection screen was used in some comic. :P [03:46] http://www.ubuntudaily.com/wp-content/uploads/1185408112656.jpg xP [03:47] Hah, I get such a laugh out of that. xP [04:14] I don't get the point of space-based indentation over tab-based. [04:19] Me neither - it's silly. [04:21] all right, bunch o' changes all merged up. [04:31] What would be our next step at world domination? [04:33] as a sidenote; I can't login through the typical Launchpad module. The way I'd be able to login was by manually inserting my OpenID URL [04:38] * Obsidian1723 night all. [05:08] wow I hate CD drives that sounds like a leafblower [05:09] heheheh [05:09] Same [05:10] Usually I'd never have a disc in the other system I'd use. Because it would even just simple idle and make horrendous noise [05:10] Takyoji: http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/user , manually add your OpenID URL to your profile (note that you need the nonsense one, not the username one). [05:10] just simply* [05:10] yeah this drive is awful, I should have tried USB instead [05:11] I don't have my password. xP [05:11] Otherwise you might be able to manually add it [05:11] yeah, I can [05:11] or I could try something else [05:14] otherwise I'll be leaving for the nigh [05:42] someone tell Takyoji to visit http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/openid later. [09:10] no === sparkle_history is now known as sparklehistory === sparkle_history is now known as sparklehistory [19:32] Snow day; though I just slept through most of it [19:43] Ooo, new KDE release [19:43] and their nifty website redesign [19:45] ugh, prdownloads.sourceforge.net is acting up [19:47] http://failblog.org/2010/01/20/cd-fail/ [19:47] heheh whoops [19:49] yay prdownloads is working again [20:51] hah nice [21:20] Takyoji: http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/openid [21:29] Still isn't working as desired [21:29] Still denied [21:33] uh, that's the same login thing that you were using before... [21:53] Takyoji: does login fail both with your password and manual openid? [21:54] It fails with all combinations of the my OpenID that I give it [21:54] okay, but can you log in with a password? [21:54] Where's the page for username/password authentication again? [21:55] that will worko on /openid too [21:55] or /user, either way [21:56] Tried all passwords that I know, none of them worked [21:57] okayyyyy [21:57] http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/user/password then [21:57] apparently our site got a hit from Morocco [21:57] Unauthorized [21:58] wth [22:06] Takyoji: try http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/user/password now [22:07] Went through the form successfully, but haven't received an email yet [22:08] nothing in the Junk/Spam folders either [22:09] Sure your mailserver is working or that Drupal is properly configured? [22:09] heh, no [22:12] yay, mailserver misconfiguration. dammit. [22:12] * tonyyarusso should actually read system mail [22:26] Anyone happen to know of how I could have a request for "/some/page" map to "/cache/some/page.shtml" in a .htaccess file? [22:26] But for pretty much anything [22:27] and if not, it would resort to the index.php file [22:34] should just be a URL rewrite rule I'd imagine. [22:35] Perhaps I'm just overanalyizing [22:58] Should I be horrendously disturbed that the Plesk login page on a server has a .php3 extension...? [23:16] I'm geting into a fight with my Tux Droid [23:16] In what way? :P [23:17] I wonder how I would be able to somehow benchmark PHP and SSI in terms of performance.. [23:18] or if I should even just have something all DB-based rather than on the filesystem.. [23:21] h00k: This is why you should have programmed the 3 Laws *first*, not said "eh, I'll get to the good practice stuff later - first, nunchucks!" [23:23] tonyyarusso: I know, I know... [23:29] Would benchmarking in a virtual machine be sane for proper isolation? [23:30] (for server-related things) [23:32] Also, public key authentication is much more secure than password-based authentication for SSH, y/n?