[00:00] <tempUser> clone1018 maybe a live-CD live-USB System is good enough for your needs?
[00:00] <clone1018> lol
[00:00] <Gaming4JC> Kyle_S:  System>>Preferences>>Sound,  then click Input settings.
[00:00] <clone1018> login is a one time thing
[00:00] <clone1018> so this server can be setup
[00:00] <pfifo> Kyle_S, I normally use 'alsa-mixer' from the command line, press tab to switch between output/input/all controls
[00:00] <Kyle_S> Gaming4JC: Hum.  Because with my old install (no pulse audio), I had lots of options there, now I only have one.  And I get no sound input.
[00:01] <Gaming4JC> Kyle_S: Ah... :/
[00:01] <tempUser> clone1018: you are obvis using a keyboard right now can't you plug it in the other comp?
[00:01] <Kyle_S> Now it only shows "Internal Audio Analog Stero"
[00:01] <clone1018> Laptop
[00:01] <pfifo> Kyle_S, try this 'alsa-mixer -c0' or 'alsa-mixer -c1'
[00:02] <Jordan_U> magn3ts, hfsplus support in linux can only write to volumes with journaling disabled. I don't know if windows can be made to read / write to hfsplus or not.
[00:02] <pfifo> Kyle_S, i dont know how to switch cards in the GUI, but that is more than likely your problem.
[00:03] <microlith> Jordan_U: windows can, with 3rd party software packages (and not as a regular disk)
[00:03] <Kyle_S> pfifo maybe.
[00:03] <Kyle_S> this is a laptop, so I dunno why you'd have to switch cards..but still.
[00:03] <Kyle_S> Anyway, how do you switch input sources in alsamixer?
[00:04] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, yeah, I think Bootcamp drivers include hfs+ read only drivers, which is okay. I use windows < 1% of the time
[00:04] <delemi> Jordan_U, magn3ts  My windows based OS PC (XP) has issues reading and writing to my imac backup drives.
[00:04] <pfifo> Kyle_S, pulse adds some weird device as a mixer, with just a single volume control
[00:04] <Gaming4JC> Does anyone know why a kernel wouldn't take graphic acceleration? :P
[00:04] <jp--> hi guys. do you know why ubuntu runs faster on a usb hard disk than a usb flash drive? it's running really slow on my flash pen drive
[00:04] <titan_ark> hey could someone give me the command to kill firefox? i cant get the pid to kill i
[00:05] <Pici> titan_ark: killall firefox
[00:05] <Kyle_S> pfifo: Ahh ok.
[00:05] <pfifo> Kyle_S, the -c switch allows you so specify a card number, eg... -c0 -c1 -c2
[00:05] <Kyle_S> Humm.
[00:05] <delemi> jp--, I have had faster read times using a live cd than either of those
[00:05] <titan_ark> Pici, firefox(1854): Operation not prmitted
[00:06] <pfifo> Kyle_S, i have to use -c0, why it would default to showing card 1 is beyond me, but -c0 gets the job done
[00:06] <Kyle_S> pfifo: oddly -c0 works, -c1 doesn't.  Just errors out immidiately.
[00:06] <zer0rez_> i think i have a failing HDD how do I test for it?
[00:06] <Pici> titan_ark: killall -9 firefox
[00:06] <Pici> titan_ark: is the process yours?
[00:06] <Jooder492> what would cause my youtube videos to lagg?
[00:06] <pfifo> Kyle_S, what dose -c0 show? the pulse controlls?
[00:06] <jp--> i ran it on my usb hard disk and it woah, really fast, but on the flash drive is reaaaally slow :/
[00:06] <titan_ark> Pici, same error
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> Jooder492: Flash codec, graphic acceleration... etc.
[00:06] <jp--> and it's the same installation, I just copied the filesystem using cp -ax
[00:06] <Gaming4JC> !flash | Jooder492
[00:07] <Pici> titan_ark: what does ps aux | grep firefox    say? (minus the grep line of course)
[00:07] <Kyle_S> pfifo: it shows HDA Intel/Realtek ALC269
[00:07] <skullcandy> hey guys, is there an IM program in ubuntu that allows you to add multiple contacts?
[00:07] <Jooder492> ok ty
[00:07] <titan_ark> Pici, ah i think that muct be the problem. i have vnc-ed into my school unix account and need to mail myself the result of a script i just ran
[00:07] <skullcandy> i have a ctt file from my msn on my other computer that i need imported
[00:07] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: Pidgin? C:) ...
[00:08] <pfifo> Kyle_S, looks like your on the right track, press tab to switch to input settings, my card has more than one mic jack, if yours dose as well you may need to change the input source
[00:08] <skullcandy> i own pidgin i cant import multiple contacts i jsut checked
[00:08] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: Hmm, I use Pidgin for everything, I'm pretty sure it can import multiple contacts but I rarely have to import any... oh well. :/
[00:08] <Kyle_S> pfifo: Allright.  Lemmie try again.
[00:08] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: You checked #pidgin?
[00:09] <skullcandy> @game4jc can u show me a tutorial on how to ?
[00:09] <titan_ark> Pici, yeah i think i can see that there is another persons session running
[00:09] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: I'll check...
[00:09] <skullcandy> i'll join now and check @gaming4jc
[00:09] <har> skullcandy: pidgin should work but emapthy is good too
[00:09] <titan_ark> Pici, is its format UID PID ....?
[00:09] <pfifo> Kyle_S, if there is more than one control there you just need to play around with sound recorder and the levels until you find something that works
[00:09] <skullcandy> @har, can you show me a tutorial of empathy importating multiple contacts?
[00:10] <Gaming4JC> Hmm I'm not entirely sure lol :s
[00:10] <titan_ark> Pici, anything i can do?
[00:10] <har> skullcandy, what do you mean import, do you already have, say, an aim account and just want to use that?
[00:11] <skullcandy> no, i have an old msn account that has 1k users i talk to , and i wanna import that form my msn on my mwindows computer into my pidgin on my ubuntu desktop
[00:11] <Pici> titan_ark: ps ux | grep firefox    then
[00:11] <har> well, your account should be on the msn server so you just add the msn account
[00:11] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: If you enter your username and password it should import them automatically? ...
[00:11] <Royall> skullcandy: I'm pretty sure all of your contacts are stored at MSN's servers, so logging on in pidgin should make them all show up
[00:11] <skullcandy> i saved all the contacts in contactlist.ctt
[00:11] <pfifo> Kyle_S, sometimes running this command in a seprate terminal can hint about the various settings 'arecord|aplay' (record input and pipe it to the output [caution this makes a bad feebback if your mic is near your speakers, best turn your volume down])
[00:12] <zer0rez_> i think i have a failing HDD how do I test for it?
[00:12] <Gaming4JC> zer0rez: System >> Administration >> disk utility. Observer S.M.A.R.T. Data, You may also want to check out Ultimate Boot CD for "Diagnostic" Tools on HDDs. :)
[00:13] <zer0rez_> Gaming4JC, thanks
[00:13] <titan_ark> Pici, http://paste.ubuntu.com/372118/
[00:13] <joe-evans> zer0rez: click system|admin|system testing does that do it
[00:13] <skullcandy> lemme explain, i' am trying to transfer all of my msn contacts to a new msn with 500+ users, i want to import 1k users from my windows laptop called contactlist.ctt to my pidgin that has 500+ contacts
[00:13] <har> skullcandy: I've never used that type of file so I'm not sure
[00:13] <skullcandy> the old msn i' am getting rid of
[00:13] <zer0rez_> joe-evans, thanks
[00:13] <har> so you're creating a new account, I see
[00:14] <titan_ark> Pici the ps us | grep throws lines 5 to 9 as the result
[00:14] <zer0rez_> weird both are reporting smart healthy.  gah don't wanna buy 2 drives just in case oh well.
[00:14] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: Create the new account on a windows PC, import it there, then use pidigin? The contacts will remain on the server.
[00:14] <skullcandy> this is the tutorial i followed to transfer the ctt file > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By-ioSRNNI8
[00:14] <tempUser> I am looking for something like mp3val for all files (not only mp3)
[00:15] <skullcandy> @gaming4jc my windows comp has no internet atm
[00:15] <Royall> skullcandy: did you try logging into msn on pidgin, and if so, were any of your contacts listed
[00:16] <Royall> oh wait
[00:16] <Royall> you want a new msn, never mind, that's different probably
[00:16] <Gaming4JC> skullcandy: All else fails there's always WINE (http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=127) or perhaps aMSN can do this. :)
[00:17] <titan_ark> Pici, you with me?
[00:17] <Pici> titan_ark: sorry, my server's connection is doing weird things.
[00:17] <Bullma99> Hola
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> !es | Bullma99
[00:18] <Pici> titan_ark: manually kill the pid's listed net to the processes with your username next to them
[00:18] <Bullma99> I know. I was simply saying Hola.
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> lol
[00:18] <titan_ark> Pici, ah okay this is the result of the aux command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372118/
[00:18] <Gaming4JC> :)
[00:18] <skullcandy> this stupid contacts list thing is annoying me
[00:18] <titan_ark> okay il do that
[00:19] <Gaming4JC> Ok ppl, I'm not the only one according to #ati -- DO NOT INSTALL ATI 10.1!!! It'll kill Ubuntu. :)
[00:19] <titan_ark> just kill <id> will work?
[00:19] <Bullma99> I'm so lucky to be here. Got scared for a min thinking I had lost my data using ext4
[00:19] <titan_ark> Pici, just kill <id> will work?
[00:19]  * Gaming4JC goes back to 9.12...
[00:19] <Bullma99> Could not boot for the longest.
[00:19] <Pici> titan_ark: yes
[00:20] <pfifo> ubottu, you so massively multi-lingual it amazes me.
[00:20] <titan_ark> Pici, this is the last one lefy: radh7997 14927  0.0  0.0 51076  696 pts/14   S+   16:27   0:00 grep firefox
[00:20] <titan_ark>  should i kill it too?
[00:21] <Pici> titan_ark: no need, it doesn't exist anymore.
[00:21] <Bullma99> Is ext 4 stable?
[00:21] <titan_ark> Pici, ah yes FF works now!
[00:21] <titan_ark> thx a milion
[00:21] <Pici> titan_ark: yay!
[00:23] <Gaming4JC> !bye | Gaming4JC
[00:23] <titan_ark> Pici, thx a ton!!! now i need to analyse the result of the script!
[00:23] <J_K9> !bye | J_K9
[00:24] <Aijse1> ye now id also like to know what our nice bott says when you leave
[00:24] <Aijse1> bye | Iced
[00:24] <pfifo> !bye | Aijse1
[00:24] <Aijse1> doh!
[00:24] <trism> you can type /msg ubottu !command to test any of them out for yourself (and not flood the channel)
[00:25] <Aijse1> thanks :-D
[00:25] <Aijse1> and bye
[00:25] <Aijse1> !exit
[00:25] <rww> !fr | ubottu
[00:25] <pfifo> trism, Im sure many are wondering, best to drop it in the chan to save her a few CPS
[00:26] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[00:26] <capron> Bullma99,  Heard some people still report problems using ext4 and luks crypt ,  I run like that but I had a miss in the md5sum after copy a 40G file
[00:26] <trism> pfifo: oh, I agree, was just pointing it out
[00:27] <Bullma99> Should I revert to ext3?
[00:28] <capron> Bullma99,  No keep it ex4 is cool
[00:28] <pfifo> Bullma99, are you experiencing any problems?
[00:28] <Bullma99> I'll cross my fingers.
[00:29] <Bullma99> My system all of sudden would not boot. linux 2.6.31-17 (grub ver 1.97)
[00:29] <pfifo> Bullma99, how sensitive is your data? maybe try ext4 for your root, but keep /home at ext3 until you decide you like it
[00:30] <Bullma99> I have not loaded system with sensitive data until I'm confident I can depend on system 100%
[00:30] <Bullma99> sadly, have xp still
[00:30] <pfifo> Bullma99, maybe try upgrading to grub2. im not sure if it supports ext4 any better, but it is an option
[00:31] <pjotr> i'll change to arch
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Bullma99, What exactly happens when it "doesn't boot" ?
[00:31] <Bullma99> Grub2. .Currently reading that too. I want to be prepared in case boot issue happens again.
[00:31] <pfifo> Bullma99, i use ext2/3 drivers in XP and I cant get ext4 to work with them so I stuck with ext3.
[00:32] <capron> Bullma99, it all depends on how important your data is and how you do your backups.
[00:34] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a way to force all files saved in some directory to have a particular owner and/or group?
[00:34] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: why?
[00:34] <agent47> can anyone plz help me with how to connect usb mobile broadband connection in gnome ubuntu 9.10
[00:34] <capron> Bullma99,  Grub2 is in beta I use ext3 for my /boot
[00:35] <pfifo> Mike_lifeguard, I have a few directories that I do that with in conjuction with apache, i have a daily cronjob that runs
[00:35] <Ricoshady> how do I find out what time /etc/cron.daily runs?
[00:35] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: because currently, members of this role account are creating files in the account's $HOME which are owned by the user and have a group the role account isn't in. Thus, they are unwritable.
[00:36] <pfifo> Ricoshady, 'cat /etc/crontab' its probbally at 00:00
[00:36] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: "the account" being the "role account"?
[00:36] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: yes
[00:36] <capron> Do anyone use tmpfs for /tmp.   Heard it cud bee a good speed tweak ?
[00:37] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: what you said doesn't make sense to me then
[00:37] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: Do you understand what I mean by "role account"?
[00:37] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: please explain
[00:37] <pfifo> capron, I do, no speed difference at all that I notice, guess it depends how much you use /tmp though
[00:38] <Ricoshady> pfifo it says 25 3    * * *   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily )
[00:38] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: an account multiple users can su/sudo into. There is a group by the same name which those members are in - so they can access the role account's files.
[00:38] <pfifo> capron, Works great for cleaning up garbage files on reboot
[00:38] <pfifo> Ricoshady, your cron.daily runs at 3:25am local time
[00:39] <capron> pfifo, nice ,  How much ram do you have ?
[00:39] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: however, if they *create* files in the role account's $HOME, they would be owned by their normal account, and in their normal account's primary group. Which the role account is /not/ in. Thus, those files are unmodifiable by the role account.
[00:39] <pfifo> capron, 2gb
[00:39] <BitWraith> does anybody know why I might have lost SD card support during the last update?
[00:40] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: the users cannot chown or chgrp the files, so some mechanism to force file ownership and/or group inside the role account's $HOME seems like a very sensible way to solve the issue.
[00:40] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: the answer to your original question is ACLs, but there is bound to be a better solution here.  If people are su or sudo into the role account, why are the files not being created as the role user?
[00:40] <BitWraith> if I plug in the card and look at dmesg, there is no sign that the interface even exists
[00:40] <capron> pfifo,  Is it anything you cant do ,  Heard compile and video editing cud eat take lot of space in /tmp
[00:40] <BitWraith> I assume there are kernel modules missing... what modules provide SD support?
[00:40] <orangefly> i've tried the 64 bit and 32 bit versions of ubuntu on an acer aspire 7740 and all i get is a black screen....i can here the startup....any ideas....???....
[00:41] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: because they're human and thus lazy - doing it this way saves them trouble initially (until we get stuck with unmodifiable files)
[00:41] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: so they are creating files with their own accounts and presumably have access because they belong to the role group?
[00:41] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: yes
[00:42] <pfifo> capron, Ahh yes there is one thing I have to work around, I was using a dvd authoring tool to make some DVD's (from legal sources that I own the copyright to of course) It would use /tmp by default, so I had to tell it to use /home/pfifo/tmp
[00:42] <Bullma99> wish me luck. will upgrade to grub2
[00:43] <MTecknology> Bullma99: I'm fighting with grub...
[00:43] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: usually you can do this two ways: 1) ACLs (man setfacl, man getfacl, man mount (you have to add the acl option)) and 2) is to change the umask so files created are group-writable for those users and setgid the directory in question (this way files should be owned by the group on the parent directory by default)
[00:43] <doesntmatter> Has anyone played around with sun virtualbox and linux?
[00:43] <Bullma99> oh oh..Fighting w/grub?
[00:44] <jrib> doesntmatter: no, no one never has.  ever.  Just kidding: ask your real question :)
[00:44] <doesntmatter> I'm having trouble setting up a network adapter to work with it.
[00:44] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: I think setgit is what I was thinking of... is there setuid too?
[00:44] <capron> pfifo,  thanks I might try it I also have 2G ram
[00:44] <Mike_lifeguard> *setgid
[00:44] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: there is but I actually don't think it has any effect on directories
[00:44] <Mike_lifeguard> jrib: ok, well I will look into those - thanks
[00:45] <pfifo> capron, There are stting in the mount command that you can specify to set the maximum amout of memory, if you find your system getting lagged because of it, you may want to try that.
[00:46] <MTecknology> I recreated partitions on a drive, I used rsync to copy data over the partitions and verified it all transferred correctly. I did grub-install /dev/sda --no-floppy from the live cd. When I boot I get a grub command line without any error. Any ideas what I'm missing? I'm moving off of a drive that's dying and I'm happy I'm getting this done before it completely dies...
[00:46] <JBS> sLm
[00:47] <jrib> doesntmatter: you might try #vbox but you need to ask specific, detailed questions if you expect any help
[00:47] <doesntmatter> Well I'm running backtrack 4 on sun virtual box
[00:47] <pfifo> MTecknology, is you old drive still connected?
[00:48] <doesntmatter> I have a new network adapter in my network settings called virtual something....
[00:48] <MTecknology> pfifo: no
[00:48] <jrib> !enter | doesntmatter
[00:48] <Dracofodder> is there an easy way to get a newer version of flashplugin-installer applied?  I have found a problem with the flash 10.0.42 in Firefox, that is fixed in 10.1 d51 (included with seamonkey 2.02) but I'd much rather use firefox and get updates from the repo, but I also want things to actually work, yet I don't know how to get this newer version applied to FF.
[00:48] <pfifo> MTecknology, was the old drive connected when you ran grub-install?
[00:48] <doesntmatter> Its called virtualbox host-only adapter
[00:49] <MTecknology> pfifo: no, I'm on the new drive now - now I just switch back and forth
[00:51] <benkong2> hello all
[00:51] <benkong2> how can I tell what options ruby1.8 was compiled with?
[00:52] <jrib> !source | benkong2
[00:52] <pfifo> MTecknology, My first guess is that your grub configuration is looking at the wrong harddrive or the wrong partition, or in other words, a file not found.However, if your using grub2 which im not as familiar with,it could be something else. Can you boot from command line grub?
[00:52] <jrib> benkong2: read debian/rules in the source package
[00:52] <MTecknology> pfifo: I tried but didn't really know how
[00:52] <benkong2> jrib: ok reading thanks
[00:53] <pfifo> MTecknology, ok, are you using grub 1 or 2?
[00:53] <MTecknology> pfifo: 2
[00:54] <Jooder492> how do i enable hardware acceleration?
[00:55] <pfifo> MTecknology, unfortunatly I wont be much help, have a look at your /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to figure out the commands you need to run to boot
[00:56] <Nomadluap> Can someone help me with a trackpad problem?
[00:56] <jrib> Nomadluap: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[00:57] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, You need to fix your grub.cfg by hand or run grub-mkconfig from within the new system ( for instance in a chroot )
[00:58] <PingFloyd> can someone explain to me about what "search domains" means in nm-applet?
[00:58] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Or more correctly, you need to have a grub.cfg in the first place
[00:58] <Nomadluap> The trackpad on my Acer Aspire 5738 isn't being recognised in the Mouse preference panel. I: do not even have a Trackpad tab showing up. How do I fix this?
[00:58] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: I do, it was copied directly from the other drive and all partitions are the same except UUID; I ran update-grub
[00:59] <PingFloyd> the online help said "In the Search Domains box, put in the domain names you wish to automatically search as a comma-separated list", but it seemed rather ambiguous
[01:00] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, You ran update-grub from within the new system?
[01:00] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: ya
[01:00] <pfifo> MTecknology, ok that specifically why im shaking on answering, I dont know id grub2 uses UUID, if it dose that is probbally your problem
[01:00] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: from the ubuntu recovery cd
[01:00] <Bennage> what is the best file system to format a partition for ubuntu?
[01:00] <armence> Hey all, I installed 9.10 Koala and I do not have any sound... Can somebody help? (Yes, the volume is turned up and yes it works under my old os...)
[01:00] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Can you use the grub shell and stay on IRC at the same time?
[01:01] <PingFloyd> anybody understand what "search domains" means in nm-applet?
[01:01] <igie> Hi folks, I'm behind NAT and a firewall. I've set it up to port forward for sftp, and ssh on port 22. I'm running "openssh" am trying to enable "ChrootDirectory" but run into an error, saying it could not connect... Without Chroot, things work fine... the directory is owned by "root" and I have no idea what i'm doing wrong.... Anyone know how to solve???
[01:01] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: nope :(
[01:02] <pfifo> PingFloyd, yes, it uses that setting to try and search for a domain that dose not resolve through DNS
[01:02] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Did you run grub-install within the chroot?
[01:02] <veasmkii_> Is there any way i can add start up applications (commands) in ubuntu using a script/cli?
[01:02] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: no, from the ubuntu recovery cd that dropped me into a chroot
[01:02] <Guest69068> help me
[01:02] <Guest69068> please
[01:02] <ton> hi
[01:03] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Do you have a separate /boot partition?
[01:03] <semitones> !ask
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: ya
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: I shoulda mounted that huh....
[01:03] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad?
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: When I can reboot I'll go back into that and try again...
[01:03] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, Should have, but probably didn't
[01:03] <fez> veasmkii_: edit /etc/rc.local
[01:03] <MTecknology> Jordan_U: thanks - I'll try that
[01:03] <Jordan_U> MTecknology, np
[01:04] <Bennage> can ext4 be read by windoze?
[01:04] <Nomadluap> Bennage: nope
[01:04] <Bennage> ext3?
[01:04] <Guest69068> ok i have a wireless connection but no browser.....apt get doesnt work.....synaptic update no luck doi have to reinstall ubuntu all over again
[01:04] <usser> Bennage, nope
[01:04] <Nomadluap> Bennage: I don't thiink so
[01:05] <pfifo> Bennage, yes ext3 works for me
[01:05] <jguzikowski> umm i really messed up my computer D:
[01:05] <Nomadluap> Bennage: it can read ext2 with an addon, but I wouldn't recomendd that
[01:05] <Bennage> ah
[01:05] <usser> Bennage, ext2 will work, to be honest ext3 will work too but it will be read as ext2 since its backwards compatible.
[01:05] <jguzikowski> i deleted my ubuntu partition that had grub on it i guess so now when i try to boot up my old windows 7 it says 'partition not found' grub rescue
[01:05] <jguzikowski> what do i do?
[01:05] <Bennage> would ext3 be the best filesystem to use on a partitioned drive with XP and Os x?
[01:05] <usser> Bennage, for sharing data between XP and OSX?
[01:06] <pfifo> Bennage, depends if you need to use files > 2gb
[01:06] <Bennage> and ubuntu
[01:06] <semitones> Bennage, fat32 would be the most compatible if you don't have any files larger than 4gb
[01:06] <veasmkii_> thanks fez, thats actually quite useful information. :)
[01:06] <Bennage> probably will be bigger than 4gb
[01:06] <semitones> hmm
[01:06] <seth_> My logitech webcam works ]
[01:06]  * semitones wonders if xfc is supported by XP and mac
[01:07] <Bennage> XFC or XFS?
[01:07] <seth_> My Logitech webcam works in programs like Skype and Cheese, but it does not work in flash.  Can anyone help me out with this?
[01:07] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad?
[01:07] <jguzikowski> can anyone help me? :( im in serous trouble right now
[01:07] <Guest69068> how do i reinstall firefox without apt get or add remove
[01:07] <semitones> Bennage, probably XFS :)
[01:07] <jguzikowski> well not serious but i can't really lose my windows 7 partition for work
[01:07] <Bennage> :P
[01:08] <pfifo> jguzikowski, do a fresh reinstall of ubuntu. thats probbally the easiest way to go
[01:08] <jguzikowski> well not serious but i can't really lose my windows 7 partition for work?
[01:08] <jguzikowski> woops i didnt mean to send that
[01:08] <pfifo> jguzikowski, do you only have 1 partition now?
[01:08] <Guest69068> can i back anything up on usb flash ?
[01:08] <jguzikowski> pfifo, that'll work? also is there anyway i can just skip grub and go right back to booting windows 7
[01:09] <jguzikowski> pfifo, yeah im on ubuntu via flash drive now
[01:09] <seth_> My Logitech webcam works in programs like Skype and Cheese, but it does not work in flash.  Can anyone help me out with this?
[01:09] <pfifo> jguzikowski, run the gparted program and resize you windows partition, then install ubuntu on the newly freed space
[01:09] <jguzikowski> pfifo, i just want it to boot windows without grub is what i mean to say
[01:10] <Guest69068> ive reinstalled ubuntu 8 times and it takes hours to get allmy updates back
[01:10] <jguzikowski> or rather, i dont really need/want ubuntu back unless its vital to getting me back into my windows partitin
[01:10] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad? The trackpad on my Aspire 5738 isn't being recognised. Can someone help me get it fixed?
[01:10] <pfifo> jguzikowski, ohh well in that case... on windows 3.1-XP, i would always use 'fdisk /fixmbr' from windows
[01:10] <usser> jguzikowski, boot into live cd run fdisk -l making sure to note which disk contains windows and run sudo apt-get install lilo sudo lilo -M /dev/sda mbr where sda is the drive with your windows 7
[01:11] <jguzikowski> pfifo, i can't get into windows thats my problem :P but i think usser has got the fix
[01:11] <usser> jguzikowski, alternatively if you have access to window install disk run repair from that disk.
[01:11] <pfifo> jguzikowski, Yes usser is right, if you install a bootloader youll be fine
[01:11] <jguzikowski> okay thank you SO much guys i was freaking out..
[01:12] <Nomadluap> anybody?
[01:12] <usser> jguzikowski, backup before all those excercises!
[01:12] <usser> jguzikowski, i cant stress backup enough. backup.
[01:13] <Guest69068> ok how do i back up my file system before reinstalling
[01:14] <pfifo> Guest69068, by copying the files to another disk or network file server
[01:15] <Guest69068> ok and how?
[01:15] <igie> can anyone help me configure ChrootDirectory in openssh ?
[01:16] <Jordan_U> usser, Any advantage to lilo -M mbr vs install-mbr from the "mbr" package?
[01:16] <kayve> why should I choose java-jre instead of java-bin?  for developer?
[01:16] <pfifo> Guest69068, using the copy command 'cp' or drag and drop from nautilus
[01:16] <Bennage> HOW MUCH SPACE SHOULD I MAKE SWAP SPACE?
[01:16] <Bennage> ergh, sorry - caps
[01:16] <Bullma99> back
[01:16] <pfifo> Bennage, Zero Bytes
[01:16] <Bullma99> Reboot w/no problem
[01:16] <semitones> Bennage, I thiink it'
[01:16] <Bennage> on about 60gig space for the OS, how much of that should I use as swap?
[01:16] <Guest69068> cant i just reinstall firefox somehowif that is all i want
[01:17] <jguzikowski> Fatal: /dev/sda2 is not a master device with a primary parition table
[01:17] <semitones> Bennage, it should be the same amount as your RAM
[01:17] <Bullma99> kernel 2.6.31-19 and edited grub 2 timeout to "0"
[01:17] <jguzikowski> usser, that's the error i just got
[01:17] <pfifo> Bennage, 2GB of ram right? dont use swap at all.
[01:17] <Nomadluap> Does anybody in here know anyting about touchpads and synaptics; specifically trying to get synaptics to recognise said trackpad? The trackpad on my Aspire 5738 isn't being recognised. Can someone help me get it fixed?
[01:17] <Jordan_U> jguzikowski, Point it at the drive, sda, not a partition like sda2
[01:18] <jguzikowski> Jordan_U, not sure I understand
[01:19] <jguzikowski> Jordan_U, think I got it, gonna give this a shot
[01:19] <Nomadluap> Is there anybody out there?
[01:19] <usser> Jordan_U, nope
[01:19] <kayve> instead of java-6-jre can I do java-6-jdk? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:19] <Guest69068> how can ireinstall firefox
[01:19] <jrib> Nomadluap: too bad you just missed the pingfloyd guy
[01:20] <semitones> jrib, Nomadluap hehe
[01:20] <pfifo> Nomadluap, yes we can see your having trouble with a piece of hardware, If someone knew the answer they would have offered help. You may want to try back later
[01:20] <Nomadluap> ok, I will.
[01:20] <Nomadluap> Sorry for the spam
[01:20] <Sematary> Can any of you explain to me how to update the glibc in ubuntu?
[01:20] <semitones> Nomadluap, another option is post a thread on the forum, you might have better luck there
[01:21] <jrib> Sematary: update-manager handles that for you
[01:21] <Jooder492> how do i get ahold of 3rd  drivers?
[01:21] <kayve> am I muzzled or something?  Is anybody hearing me?
[01:21] <Sematary> It told me there are no updates
[01:21] <Nomadluap> which one? ubuntuforums.org?
[01:21] <Sematary> but I have version 2.1 something
[01:21] <jrib> Sematary: then it's the latest in the repositories
[01:21] <Sematary> and I need at least 2.2 or higher
[01:22] <Bennage> what's the difference between primary and logical?
[01:22] <Bennage> ...in partitioning?
[01:22] <Sematary> I'm having problems with flash plugins and I tried to install flash 9 but it said glibc was out of date
[01:22] <izmailive> hii... whois indonesian?
[01:22] <hyperstream> Bennage, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=the+difference+between+primary+and+logical
[01:22] <izmailive> hii... whois indonesian?
[01:23] <Bennage> sprry
[01:23] <Bennage> :P
[01:23] <kayve> te jrib does anybody hear me?
[01:23] <izmailive> wanna chat whit indonesian
[01:24] <pfifo> Bennage, you can have upto 4 primary partiotions on your hard disk, however one of those can be used as an extended partition that allows you to have many more logical partitions
[01:24] <Trek> !ot | izmailive
[01:24] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[01:24] <izmailive> wazzup?!
[01:25] <Bennage> thx
[01:27] <pluma> I'm afraid I may have corrupted my filesystem. Ubuntu forced me into a recovery shell, I ran fsck as it told me (although fsck warned me about the drive being mounted) and now Ubuntu locks up in the boot screen with Num/Scroll lock LEDs blinking. Is there anything I can do to recover my data?
[01:28] <Bullma99> Pluma. I just had the same problem.
[01:28] <Bullma99> Pluma- I was this close to erasing all my data
[01:28] <pluma> Bullma99: Please tell me I can still recover the files on the partition... I don't have any backups.
[01:29] <james_> hello
[01:29] <Sematary> so can anyone give me some clue on this whole glibc thing
[01:29] <Sematary> ?
[01:29] <pfifo> !hi | james
[01:29] <hyperstream> pluma, put it into another pc and run some data recovery software?
[01:29] <jron> Can anyone tell me how to properly add a user to samba!? I keep adding users but no /etc/samba/smbpasswd file is created
[01:29] <Bullma99> I'm a newby but ended rebooting from livecd
[01:29] <james_> hi pfifo
[01:29] <jrib> pluma: even if you do recover your files, remember this feeling and make backups from now on.  Everyone has this moment
[01:29] <hyperstream> Sematary, try googling about it, and/or producing errors
[01:29] <pfifo> Sematary, why flash 9, install the latest flash.
[01:29] <liljay> can someone tell me how to watch videos on youtube?
[01:30] <Sematary> because when my daughter tries to play yoville, it won't work with flash 10
[01:30] <hyperstream> !flash | liljay
[01:30] <Sematary> just hangs
[01:30] <Sematary> I tried adding seamonkey but that hung as well
[01:30] <pluma> jrib: I know. I will. I inherited the infrastructure from my predecessor and never got around to setting up a backup myself. I will set up a cronjob as soon as I can recover the data.
[01:30] <pfifo> Sematary, my dad plays texas holdem on myspace, i installed windows-firefox on wine, works like a charm
[01:31] <matrixfox> ewww myspace
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> liljay, option 2 - install chrome or chromium and goto youtube.com/html5
[01:31] <Nz3212> ./configure: line 14535: syntax error near unexpected token `libmpdclient,'
[01:31] <Nz3212> ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,'
[01:31] <Sematary> I installed wine
[01:31] <Sematary> not sure what to do with that now
[01:31] <pluma> Bullma99: So you could still mount the fs via live cd?
[01:31] <liljay> where do i install it?
[01:31] <Sematary> I'd love to have any browser that will allow her to play her game
[01:31] <james_> how can i change my nick name?
[01:31] <pluma> james_: /nick <mynickname>?
[01:31] <semitones> liljay, you install it from Synaptic, the package manager
[01:31] <pfifo> Sematary, download the windows firefox setup.exe and goto a command line 'wine setup.exe'
[01:31] <Bullma99> Pluma..yes
[01:31] <hyperstream> !nick | james_
[01:32] <jameschu> oh
[01:32] <Bullma99> Pluma..In fact, now that I look back, I used my thumbdrive
[01:32] <Nz3212> trying to compile a program from source and getting this.......... ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,'
[01:32] <Bullma99> I had both plugged and was getting frustrated thinking I was going to lose everything
[01:32] <liljay> what area is chrome under in the install thing
[01:32] <Sematary> I guess I'm having difficulty understanding wine
[01:32] <Sematary> I see it
[01:32] <Sematary> but I don't know how to use it
[01:32] <Bullma99> I was getting boot error and drive would not mount
[01:32] <pluma> Bullma99: I was hoping that this could work, but I didn't have a live CD with me at the time. I'll try it ASAP
[01:33] <jrib> Nz3212: what are you compiling?
[01:33] <Nz3212> jrib: ncmpcpp
[01:33] <semitones> liljay, google chrome?
[01:33] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmcpp is in the repositories
[01:33] <liljay> online?
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> Sematary, generally from a terminal use "wine $WINDOWSPROGRAM.EXE"
[01:33] <liljay> i can't find it.
[01:33] <pfifo> Sematary, Its quite easy to use, it simple runs .exe files
[01:33] <Nz3212> jrib: I must compile to get a certain feature to work
[01:33] <jrib> Nz3212: what feature?
[01:33] <semitones> liljay, what program are you using to look for it?
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> liljay, you can install chromium-browser from the "install thing"
[01:34] <liljay> ubuntu software center
[01:34] <hhfkhc> ubuntu sucks cock
[01:34] <matrixfox> wine hq is a bitch to setup i suggest reading http://www.winehq.org/documentation and or join there irc channel
[01:34] <Nz3212> jrib: wanted to check out the music visualizer they included
[01:34] <Dextronaut> real mature, hhfkhc.
[01:34] <pluma> Bullma99: Thanks for giving me some confidence. They hired a student for data entry half a year ago and I was afraid I'd have to try and manually input all the data myself in order to recover it =P
[01:34] <Nz3212> what the fuck?
[01:34] <semitones> !oh my
[01:34] <semitones> eh
[01:35] <jrib> Nz3212: please keep it pg-13 in here.  Anyway do: sudo apt-get build-dep ncmpcpp   but see ubottu
[01:35] <jrib> !compile > Nz3212
[01:35] <Dextronaut> does anybody know of a video player that uses oss?
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> Dextronaut, "mplayer -ao oss $filename"
[01:35] <matrixfox> ya mplayer
[01:35] <Dextronaut> Thank you.
[01:35] <Pici> Nz3212: sudo apt-get build-dep ncmpcpp     should get you the dependencies you need to compile it.
[01:36] <semitones> liljay, I'm looking in Ubuntu software center now, but you *might* have to install chrome separately -- like you would on windows or mac
[01:36] <liljay> i am having a hard time figuring out how to install things on ubuntu
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> liljay, from a terminal "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[01:36] <jrib> !software | liljay
[01:36] <Nz3212> Pici: jrib same error
[01:36] <semitones> liljay, for most things, it's as easy as looking for them in Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Center. But a few things, like chrome, you have to download separately
[01:38] <jonzbcc> a "simulate" with GRSYNC gives me "permission denied" errors -- does anyone know how to solve this? It doesn't make sense that you'd have to use sudo grsync or gksu grsync from a command or F2, because this is a _GUI_ front end.. that would defeat the purpose. I'm not just trying to be a pain: I want to make this work for my girlfriend
[01:38] <liljay> eh i can't get it
[01:38] <pfifo> chrome isnt in synaptics? maybe hhfkhc was onto something :D
[01:39] <semitones> huh, why did liljay leave
[01:39] <ZykoticK9> pfifo, chrome isn't - that's from google directly, but the open source chromium is.  and hhfkhc doesn't know what he's talking about.
[01:39] <Dextronaut> lol pfifo.
[01:40] <Dextronaut> I'm guessing cuz it's beta apparently
[01:41] <ZykoticK9> Dextronaut, beta doesn't have anything to do with it - "chrome" is google's proprietary version
[01:41] <jameschu> pfifo, where are u now?
[01:41] <jonzbcc> anyone use grsync/
[01:41] <Dextronaut> Oo
[01:41] <pfifo> jameschu, florida,but thats too offtopic for this chan, im in #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[01:42] <tessarakt> Hi!
[01:42] <carl_c> Hey folks I'm new to Ubuntu, just thought I'd come hang out. It's been years since I've used IRC.
[01:42] <Nz3212> ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,' alreayd done sudo build-dep ncmpcpp any ideas?
[01:42] <jrib> Nz3212: make sure you can compile vanilla ncmpcpp first without the extra stuff you are trying
[01:42] <tessarakt> Is the Netbook Remix available with the text-based installer?
[01:42] <Nz3212> jrib: I just did, and I can't
[01:42] <isa> hi !
[01:43] <detrate> is there any program that will execute a command every x seconds, without adding a cron job?
[01:43] <detrate> sort of like 'watch'
[01:43] <Pici> detrate: whats wrong with using 'watch'?
[01:43] <jonzbcc> detrate: a for loop
[01:43] <pfifo> tessarakt, Technically netboox just uses a different set of packages by default all which should be available in the text-install
[01:44] <detrate> watch -n2 $(fortune | cowsay -f $(ls /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ | shuf | head -n1))
[01:44] <detrate> doesn't work 6_^
[01:44] <tessarakt> ok
[01:44] <Sematary> hey pfifo, I downloaded it (twice) but when I open up the C:\ drive with wine it doesn't show
[01:44] <jameschu> pfifo, I have change to offtop, but can not see u
[01:44] <tessarakt> so I just take the normal text-based install CD
[01:44] <tessarakt> and try to put it on a SD card
[01:44] <Nz3212> jrib: any ideas?
[01:45] <Pici> detrate: put your command into a script and then run that script with watch.
[01:45] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmpcpp was probably rewritten to depend on the libmpdclient library (which seems to be new and not in karmic)
[01:45] <pfifo> Sematary, you downloaded the setup.exe with the linux version of firefor which gennerally puts the file on your desktop.
[01:45] <Sematary> I told it where to go
[01:45] <detrate> Pici: there's gotta be a way I can do it without that as well
[01:45] <Sematary> guess that doesn't work, huh?
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> The 'Desktop' also known as the 'great big place where everything gets dumped' sort of like Your Junk Drawer.
[01:46] <pfifo> Sematary, now you dont want to 'Browse C drive' you wnat to goto that download location and right click it in nautilus, select 'Run with Wine'
[01:46] <ZykoticK9> jrib, perhaps libmpdclient2 will work (not sure if it's in karmic, it's in lucid)
[01:46] <almark1> hello I'm trying to install build-essential on a hardy based distro could someone pls look at my errors build-essential will not install
[01:46] <almark1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/372152/
[01:47] <jrib> ZykoticK9: you need the -dev version in any case and it's a good idea to rebuild the package
[01:47] <Sematary> ok
[01:47] <Sematary> not to sound stupid
[01:47] <Sematary> but what is nautilus
[01:47] <Sematary> can you tell I'm new to this?
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> jrib, "libmpdclient-dev" is in lucid, not sure about karmic
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> Sematary:  the default gnome file manager
[01:47] <Pici> detrate: This seems to work (keep the quotes intact): watch 'fortune | cowsay -f $(ls /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ | shuf | head -n1 )'
[01:47] <Nz32> jrib: sorry xchat crashed, was asking you about my compiling error
[01:47] <evstatii> .quit
[01:47] <detrate> got it
[01:47] <detrate> yeah
[01:48] <detrate> but now I have a new problem :-P
[01:48] <jrib> almark1: have you mixed repositories or installed any debs manually?
[01:48] <detrate> it's picking the same random character
[01:48] <Pici> detrate: Although you may want to use fortune -s, for the shorter fortunes
[01:48] <almark1> I have tired everything, I have done apt-get update many times and at first it didn't work due to my sources.list needed keys
[01:48] <ZykoticK9> almark1, have you tried running "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[01:48] <almark1> jrib yes I have installed something manually with deb
[01:48] <jrib> almark1: what did you install?
[01:48] <Pici> detrate: it works fine here.
[01:48] <almark1> ZykoticK9 yes
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> almark1: even without the keys it should work. just give warnings about the keys being needed.
[01:49] <SeViLLa> ?
[01:49] <almark1> jrib: let me look I hope its in my history from term
[01:49] <firevai> hi everyone.. anyone up for helping me tackle a sound card issue?
[01:49] <detrate> got it
[01:49] <firevai> installed a new pci soundcard, but i'm only getting sound out of one side.. it works fine in windows
[01:49] <detrate> watch -n2 "fortune | cowsay -f \$(ls /usr/share/cowsay/cows/ | shuf | head -n1)"
[01:49] <detrate> needed to escape the $
[01:49] <firevai> i've checked mixer settings and stuff allready
[01:50] <jrib> almark1: pastebin the following too: apt-cache policy libc6-dev linux-libc-dev
[01:50] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmpcpp was probably rewritten to depend on the libmpdclient library (which seems to be new and not in karmic)  is the last thing I said
[01:50] <detrate> is there anyway I can color it without breaking it? sort of like toilet --gay
[01:50] <littlegirl> fireval: Did you double-check that the speakers are plugged in properly?
[01:51] <almark1> ok
[01:51] <firevai> yes it works fine in windows littlegirl
[01:51] <firevai> card shows in lspci.. and cpl other places
[01:52] <firevai> checked all my sound settings too.. and pretty sure i have it set to right card
[01:52] <almark1> jrib_ here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/372155/
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> detrate:  there are generic 'colorizer' tools out there that can color text based on regular expression patterns
[01:52] <littlegirl> fireval: Is it all sound, or just sound in a specific program?
[01:52] <Nz32> ./configure: line 14535: `PKG_CHECK_MODULES(libmpdclient, libmpdclient >= 2.1,' when trying to compile ncmpcpp from source, any ideas?
[01:52] <detrate> hmm
[01:53] <jrib> almark1: did you figure out what you installed, because linux-libc-dev is not from the repositories (and it's the problem)
[01:53] <firevai> all sound.. i only get sound out of my right speakers, and subwoofer
[01:53] <jrib> Nz32: didn't we say already?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> seems like a lot of work  just to have some pretty fortune outputs...
[01:53] <firevai> i have a 7:1 surround card, and 6:1 speakers lol
[01:53] <almark1> jrib now I remember
[01:53] <Nz32> jrib: I tried what you said
[01:53] <jrib> Nz32: what's that?
[01:53] <almark1> jrib: envy
[01:54] <Nz32> jrib: the build-dep command
[01:54] <jrib> almark1: well I doubt it was envy but linux-libc-dev is the problem.  The only issue is, there may be more
[01:54] <almark1> jrib I need it so I can get my dual monitors to go to default and really just configure it properly
[01:54] <detrate> Dr_Willis: I enjoy stretching reality in a different direction this evening
[01:54] <firevai> ugg sorry i'll bbiab.. something just came up
[01:54] <firevai> bbs
[01:54] <littlegirl> fireval: What is your setting in System --> Preferences --> Sound?
[01:54] <almark1> _jrib ack
[01:54] <jrib> Nz32: and then after?  We talked about the libmpdclient library not being in karmic
[01:54] <almark1> _jrib let me look in my bash_history
[01:54] <Nz32> jrib: I did not see anything about that, sorry, what do you recommend I do then
[01:55] <Sematary> pfifo - I have firefox working in wine
[01:55] <Sematary> same process for flash player?
[01:55] <marco123> Question fo you, since last update 8.04 to 9.10 my usb device are not deteced I got error log Can someone help me thanks
[01:55] <jrib> Nz3212: ncmpcpp was probably rewritten to depend on the libmpdclient library (which seems to be new and not in karmic)
[01:56] <pfifo> Sematary, goto youtube or whatever and use the auto-install
[01:56] <jrib> Sematary: you realize firefox and flash work natively in linux?
[01:56] <nvme> anyone know the name of the package that lets you trim white space off pdf files ?
[01:56] <Sematary> ya, I know
[01:56] <Sematary> but version 10 doesn't play the game my daughter plays
[01:56] <Sematary> and I would need to update the glibc to install 9
[01:56] <Sematary> it's ridiculous
[01:57] <Sematary> goto youtube?
[01:57] <jrib> Sematary: you shouldn't have to touch glibc
[01:57] <almark1> jrib one is avast
[01:57] <Sematary> tell that to the flash 9 installer
[01:57] <Nz32> jrib: sorry, i dont understand, i have ncmpccp installed already, the same version im trying to compile infact, so are you saying it is not possible for it to work in karmic, or am I not getting your meaning
[01:57] <Sematary> it tells me I need at least 2.2 and ubuntu has 2.1
[01:57] <almark1> jrib one is dssi
[01:57] <jrib> Sematary: just copy the libflashplayer.so yourself to ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[01:57] <Sematary> I tried that
[01:57] <jrib> Sematary: and?
[01:57] <Sematary> I fixed all my permissions, etc...
[01:58] <Sematary> wouldn't let me copy it
[01:58] <jrib> Sematary: pastebin what you did and what the error was exactly
[01:58] <Sematary> I've completely deleted all the flash stuff from linux now but still have the flash 10 installer if I want it
[01:58] <pfifo> Sematary, version 10 of windows flash seems to work better for those games. use windows-firefox in wine to play them, youll need to install flash via the auto installer while running the windows version of firefox
[01:58] <bluebaron> is there a way to get the config of a kernel with only the binary kernel file?
[01:58] <jrib> nvme: the only thing I would guess could do it would be pdftk, but no idea
[01:58] <Sematary> that's what I'm doing now pfifo
[01:58] <littlegirl> Sematary: Did you go to Tools --> Addons --> Plugins and remove it in Firefox before copying over the new one?
[01:59] <Sematary> yes
[01:59] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[01:59] <almark1> _jrib am I missing something lol I have tried many things but to no avail
[01:59] <jameschu> when will upgrade the firefox of ubuntu9.10 to 3.6 version
[01:59] <jrib> well remove that package for starters... wait for more issues to arise since we don't know how it got installed
[01:59] <jrib> almark1: ^
[02:00] <nvme> jrib, yeah its texlive extras
[02:00] <almark1> _jrib yes I will try that
[02:00] <nvme> pdfcrop apparently, my search for pdftrim wasnt returning stuff :P
[02:00] <jrib> nvme: oh cool
[02:00] <almark1> hope I dont break something lol
[02:02] <marco123> That's my error msg usb 2-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[02:02] <almark1> jrib: I'm about to remove the package but if I do will remove g++ and g++ 4.2
[02:03] <almark1> jrib: I really don't know if I should remove that package especially if its g++
[02:03] <Paradox> anyone with ubuntu want to do me a project?
[02:04] <resno> i somehow messed something up, when i go to view a file using sudo, i get Error reading /home/bryan/.nano_history: Permission denied
[02:04] <Paradox> doh
[02:04] <Paradox> i mistyped that seriously
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> resno:  you could delete that file. its permissions are proberly wrong.
[02:04] <Paradox> i meant to say anyone with bazaar want to help me out with something?
[02:04] <Malin_> back?
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> resno:  running stuff with sudo can make files in the users home.. that one is proberly owned by root not the user
[02:05] <ZykoticK9> resno, "ls -l /home/bryan/.nano_history"
[02:05] <Bullma99> Just installed startup manager- easy way to configure bootloader
[02:06] <resno> ZykoticK9: root root
[02:06] <fwaokda> when i run "make" I get this... can anyone help me figure out what I need to do to correct it? http://pastebin.com/d4c1f52d9  thanks
[02:06] <resno> Dr_Willis: ill just delete it thanks.
[02:06] <ZykoticK9> resno, is your username bryan?  "sudo chown bryan:bray /home/bryan/.nano_history"
[02:07] <ZykoticK9> resno, that second bray is a typo obviously
[02:07] <resno> thanks ZykoticK9
[02:07] <resno> i figured it was a typo ZykoticK9
[02:08] <DasFlo> Hey guys... might somebody be in the mood to help me get Ubuntu going?
[02:08] <resno> !ask | DasFlo
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  tell the channel the full problem.
[02:09] <igie> do i need ssh for openssh to work?? or are they two separate entities working separately ?
[02:09] <erick1138> necesito ayuda con monodeveloped hola
[02:09] <blakkheim> lol
[02:10] <resno> Dr_Willis: whats the best way to sudo open a file and not have the happen?
[02:10] <arquebus> !es
[02:10] <almark1> jrib: this is odd, I removed the problem package and it completely removed all of them for g++ but, I tried to do a  sudo apt-get install build-essential and I got this, hold for paste
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> resno:  i rarely have the issue. I dont use nano normally either.
[02:11] <DasFlo> I am trying a Dual Boot - Windows 7 and Ubuntu 9.10 64bit. Windows is on my internal hdd, Ubuntu is on an external hdd. The external hdd has 900GB ntfs for general storage, 100GB ext4 for / and 4GB swap. Grub is installed on the external hdd. I can choose a OS in grub. Windows loads fine. If I chose Ubuntu, the system immediately freezes
[02:11] <Dr_Willis> resno:  i use vi or geany
[02:11] <almark1> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372164/
[02:11] <DasFlo> The live cd runs fine, btw...
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> resno:  if that file existed befor for the user.. i imagine it wouldent of had its permissions being owned by root.
[02:13] <speme> DasFlo, paste your /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[02:13] <ZykoticK9> DasFlo, if Grub really is installed on the external (which by what you describe i don't think it is) you'd have to use a (BIOS) Key at boot to select to boot from external HD...
[02:14] <speme> DasFlo, I mean your set the wrong disk
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  also edit the grub line at boot to have 'nosplash' and 'nofb' at the end of the kernel options so yoyu can see all the error messages.  that may help. Very likely the system is looking in the wrong place for the files to boot.
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  like speme  said. - I never use a external hd. :) but i do know it can cause issues.
[02:15] <DasFlo> It has to be on the external HDD. If I unplug the external HDD or set the boot order in Bios to boot the internal hdd first, I go straight to windows
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  when Installing to a EXTERNAL hd - thers some quirks with grub that one has to watch out for.
[02:15] <littlegirl> DasFlo: Can you boot Ubuntu in recovery mode?
[02:15] <LogicalDash> I have Compiz set up to zoom in, but I also have some applications with windows larger than my tiny netbook screen, and I'd like to zoom out on those sometimes. How I do this?
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  because of how the installer works/sees the drives and how they change when you boot from the external hd.
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  grub basically nees to be told to look on the right drive
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  when bootintg from external HD vs internal the 'order' of the drives change - so it can confuse things
[02:16] <DasFlo> I think I'm going to boot from the live cd now and come back afterwards. Since I'm on W7 right now I can't really do much
[02:17] <DasFlo> littlegirl: I'll try recovery mode first
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> DasFlo:  check out the grub menus and how to edit the grub command lines - you canproberly change some hd0,0 to be hd0,1 or somthing and get it working
[02:18] <DasFlo> Dr_Willis: I'll do that, too. Sec, rebooting...
[02:18] <semitones> Question: If I install Ubuntu Studio's real time kernel and patches, will that stop the audio from stuttering when the CPU is under heavy load?
[02:18] <duke_> hi just small question wanna change my window manager and doesnt work i typed in ~/.xinitrc  exec /home/duke/.cabal/bin/xmonad
[02:18] <duke_> and i tried without exec
[02:18] <semitones> on a slowish computer
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  how are you starting up X ?
[02:19] <duke_> ehm autostart
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  if you mean Via GDM - then you need to use a gdm desktop session to launch the right window manager
[02:20] <ZykoticK9> duke_, you'd probably have to use "startx" for it to look at your .xinitrc file
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  there used to be a 'xsession' gdm session that ran stuff from .xsession or .xinitrc i think
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> duke_:  or just not use gdm and use 'startx' that should run whats in .xinitrc
[02:22] <LavaEagle> I ahve a laptop that is going to be dedicated to just watching movies, hulu stuff like that anyone got an idea for a good OS, LXDE? Mandrake? Crunchbang? Kubuntu
[02:22] <happyface> how can I reinstall the default wifi drivers that come with Karmic?
[02:22] <srv> How can I install updates using the shell, instead of using the Update Manager?
[02:23] <ZykoticK9> srv, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:23] <blakkheim> srv: replace upgrade with "full-upgrade"
[02:24] <nn-laptop> Hi all,  I cant seem to ever encode a video format windows can use .. :(   anyhow .. I need an opinion on my gimp logo animation .. and weather or not its actually playable by other linux geeks http://fs.userbin.net/gimp.mpeg
[02:25] <blakkheim> !ot | nn-laptop
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> LavaEagle:  mythbuntu, or aboyut anything will work..  theres dozens of media players also
[02:25] <srv> ykoticK9, blakkheim, thank you
[02:26] <Dr_Willis>  nn-laptop  install the proper codecs -or players I guess.  I rarely have any issues with videos on linux/windows.
[02:26] <astrocub> i have a 64bit processor, but opted for the 32bit ubuntu. i'm downloading intel's integrated performance primitives library, do i choose intel 64 for ia-32?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> astrocub:  32bit os = use 32
[02:26] <blakkheim> astrocub: ia-32
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> I would of opted for teh 64bit OS to begin with
[02:26] <blakkheim> depends on how much ram he has
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> I dont worry about the ram. I go 64bit even if i got 1gb of ram
[02:27] <blakkheim> why?
[02:27] <rww> why not?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> benchmarks do show that 64bit even with 1gb ram IS faster in many cases..
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> and i only need one apt-cache server to hold all the 64bit packages.  sine the rest of the lan is all 64bit
[02:28] <blakkheim> rww: no advantages, some things are incompatible, binaries are more bloated
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> blakkheim:  ive not seen that to be the case.
[02:28] <ZykoticK9> What is the "sudo apt-get full-upgrade"?  pattern not found in "man apt-get"
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> and i have seen.read of advantages
[02:28] <blakkheim> Dr_Willis: i have :(
[02:28] <rww> blakkheim: no advantages to 32-bit, I've never seen any incompatibility or bloat
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> I can thionk of one binary i have that dosent work on 54bit
[02:28] <rww> ZykoticK9: something that doesn't exist
[02:28] <rww> ZykoticK9: whoever told you full-upgrade was thinking of aptitude
[02:29] <ZykoticK9> rww, thanks
[02:29] <matrixfox> well ya thats the whole point of 64bit
[02:29] <Das-Flo> Ok I'm back and on a live session
[02:29] <elpargo> hi, if I want to write a program that will run "forever" listening to a streaming api (http1.1) will it be better to make a service out of it? or should I stick with a daemon?
[02:29] <Das-Flo> can I paste grub.cfg now?
[02:29] <bbelt16ag> hey peeps are there apps that can clean up my music folders seriously its like i got 02-pearljam 01 07
[02:29] <bbelt16ag> weird  crap
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  a service normally runs stuff as demons..  so it dosent really matter.
[02:30] <astrocub> thank you Dr_Willis and blakkheim
[02:30] <ZykoticK9> bbelt16ag, easytag can bulk rename based on tags (if your tags are correct)
[02:31] <gsgleason> bbelt, you  can also make a shell or perl script for that.
[02:31] <elpargo> Dr_Willis: from the little I have read about upstart all I have to do is build a script. does my process needs to know how to be a daemon?
[02:32] <Das-Flo> Dr_Willis: I think you asked for the contents of grub.cfg, right? I have it now
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> Das-Flo:  wasent me.. but you can pastebun it for others to look at.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  i am lazy and just run things from rc.local you couldmake your program restart if it exits/ctrashes if you wanted to
[02:33] <srv> Shall I use "sudo apt-get upgrade" or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" or sudo apt-get full-upgrade", to get the Update Manager functionality in the shell?
[02:33] <Das-Flo> Dr_Willis: Oh, sorry. "Pastebin it" - ok, I'll quickly find out what that means and do so
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  thats all a demon does.
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> !pastebinit | Das-Flo
[02:33] <bbelt16ag> no not  tages  folders
[02:33] <bbelt16ag> stupid  folders i hate itunes i got to make  everything read only to keep it from  touching  crud
[02:33] <ZykoticK9> srv, "sudo apt-get full-upgrade" doesn't exist
[02:33] <elpargo> Dr_Willis: that is what I really need the "always up"
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> Das-Flo:  cat /path/to.file | pastebinit
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> elpargo:  i never bothered with that stuff. so not sure whats the best way
[02:34] <elpargo> Dr_Willis: I see. ok thanks.
[02:34] <igie> help please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1401258
[02:36] <ben__> planning new pc. does nvidia or radeon have better support for ubuntu?
[02:36] <ZykoticK9> ben__, go nvidia
[02:36] <ouyes> yes , since 9.10
[02:37] <ben__> thank you
[02:37] <gsgleason> igie, have you tried sftp command line?
[02:37] <ouyes> ben__, but nvidia seems to get better support in old versions of ubuntu , 10.04 will be good for both i think
[02:37] <daz0191> hello i am having trouble with dual monitors in 9.10, when i unclick mirror screens in desplay settings my monitors go black, i am using a thinkpad t60 with crappy intel graphics,worked fine on fc12 as an extended desktop
[02:38] <ZykoticK9> ben__, especially if your thinking 10.04 go nvidia
[02:38] <ouyes> ZykoticK9, why?
[02:38] <igie> gsgleason: no i'm not sure how. But the purpose of this share is to share with family in a totally different country. They all use Windows.
[02:38] <gsgleason> is ubuntu.com not working for anyone else or is it just me?
[02:39] <blakkheim> gsgleason: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[02:39] <LavaEagle> blakkheim: lol
[02:39] <ben__> k
[02:39] <ouyes> gsgleason,  me too
[02:39] <gsgleason> igie: sometimes it's easier to see an issue using a more simple client.
[02:39] <ZykoticK9> ouyes, 10.04 has both OS nouveau support + special support for nvidia proprietary driver(s) - you have 3 simultaneously installed and can choose which one to use
[02:40] <gsgleason> igie: try it with sftp.
[02:40] <ouyes> gsgleason,   just slow but can work
[02:40] <igie> gsgleason: I will give it a shot.
[02:40] <ZykoticK9> ouyes, see http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2 for some more details
[02:40] <ben__> man wish there was better support for a htpc
[02:41] <gsgleason> igie: open a terminal and type: sftp username@hostname
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> ben__, mythbuntu?  what do you mean?
[02:41] <ben__> i mean with blu ray
[02:42] <tomatoes6_> when i use wine to run diablo 2, it makes my screen colors all funky, and once i quit, my colors are still funky, any ideas how to get my colors back to normal?
[02:42] <daz0191> now i can get my monitors working up and down but not left to right, any ideas?
[02:42] <igie> gsgleason: I get the error: "Read from remote host igie: Connection reset by peer
[02:42] <igie> Couldn't read packet: Connection reset by peer"
[02:42] <Das-Flo> alright, my grub.conf: http://pastebin.com/m53a5d6eb
[02:42] <ouyes> ZykoticK9, en thanks, i am now using thinkpad t400 and a ati card with a driver installed by envy-gt, it works good , sometime DIY a PC, nvidia's card is the first choice
[02:43] <ouyes> gsgleason, nvidia is the first choice
[02:43] <gsgleason> igie, what is the user's home directory on the server?
[02:43] <fk_007> so i have been using xubuntu for about a month now and all the sudden when i log in it loads for a minute then kicks me back to the login screen again :(
[02:43] <Das-Flo> set root=(hd2,2) looks about right to me :/
[02:43] <ouyes> fk_007, which version of release are you running?
[02:43] <Jef91> Anyone know of a good FOSS calender program for Ubuntu that is like M$ Outlook's calender? Just put Mint on my girlfriend's laptop and she wants one
[02:44] <Viper1432> fk_007,  is your hard disk full?  seen that issue occur with no space left.
[02:44] <fk_007> onyes: 9.1
[02:44] <happyface> asiodj
[02:44] <gsgleason> jef, what about the evolution calendar?
[02:44] <gsgleason> or thunderbird?
[02:44] <igie> gsgleason: its a separate internal disk /media/Media/Public
[02:45] <myownserver> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make the "Share" option re-appear when I right click on a directory?
[02:45] <gsgleason> igie, make sure the home directory matches your chroot dir
[02:45] <myownserver> It disappeared and I don't know how to make it come back.
[02:45] <igie> gsgleason: I made the the home directory of the new user I added to the system
[02:45] <MadRush> can someone help me with the MV command?
[02:45] <igie> gsgleason: thats the thing.. It matches perfectly.
[02:45] <blakkheim> MadRush: "man mv" can
[02:46] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know how to make the embedding area of my external hdd bigger so i can install grub 2 on it
[02:46] <acclaimtech> Hello
[02:46] <myownserver> So far I've tried restarting the computer and completely re-installing samba, but neither helped.
[02:46] <acclaimtech> Is there a utility that will show you the progress of files copied using SSH?
[02:46] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: scp
[02:46] <meowbuntu> hi i am wanting to know how to make the embedding area of my external hdd bigger so i can install grub 2 on it /join #ubuntu
[02:46] <myownserver> I've searched, but I cannot find what it relys on or why it wouldn't be showing.
[02:46] <acclaimtech> yes but doesn't SCP move the data to your workstation and then back to the server?
[02:46] <gsgleason> acclaimtech: scp will do this by default.
[02:47] <Das-Flo> Ubuntu still won
[02:47] <Das-Flo> won
[02:47] <srv> If there is a new distribution of Ubuntu available, will "apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrade to that new version (e.g. from Jaunty to Karmic)?
[02:47] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: can copy to and from
[02:47] <myownserver> I clicked on it and vamoos, GONE!
[02:47] <blakkheim> srv: no
[02:47] <acclaimtech> ok but I need one that doesn't copy through my workstation
[02:47] <LordValiumSleeps> I have skype but I dont get incoming video. All I have is a gray screen. Skype appears to think I'm getting video because it gives me the option to turn off incoming video
[02:47] <acclaimtech> just go from server to server
[02:47] <blakkheim> srv: you want do-release-upgrade
[02:47] <srv> blakkheim, thx
[02:47] <acclaimtech> or raid array to raid array
[02:47] <srv> blakkheim, hmm
[02:47] <fk_007> Viper1432: had to go check the space used, used the terminal command df and it said 19% was used
[02:47] <Das-Flo> won't boot from my external hdd. I have no idea what to change in grub.conf. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/m53a5d6eb
[02:48] <myownserver> I can't believe I can't find anything on google about this.  Surely I'm not the first to encounter this issue.
[02:48] <Viper1432> it was just a stab at the issue fk_007 .  that wouldn't be the issue then.
[02:49] <Viper1432> fk_007,  something might have gotten corrupted...I've seen that with video drivers flaming out before.  you might want to reinstall "desktop" from aptitude in a terminal.  Could just be something got wasted.
[02:50] <lostinspace_46> When running " ./configure " for pidgin-2.6.5 I get this message (XScreenSaver extension development headers not found.  Use --disable-screensaver).  Self explanatory I know.  My problem is (no laughing) I can't figure out the syntax.
[02:50] <fk_007> Viper1432: very well could be, i had an issue no to long ago with the drivers, it went into safe graphics mode, but then when i rebooted it was fine, for a while
[02:51] <Viper1432> Yeah fk_007  as long as your /home is backed up, I' just reinstall the xubuntu_desktop stuff as a check.  Settings and apps should stay the same as long as /home isn't borked.
[02:51] <acclaimtech> Ok so how does SCP work?
[02:52] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: man scp
[02:52] <tule> lostinspace_46: you should just insert the --disable-screensaver after ./configure and your filename
[02:52] <fk_007> Viper1432: so do you mean install it again from the disk or how might i do it in the terminal
[02:52] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, considered just adding the Pidgin Developers PPA instead of compiling?  just a thought.
[02:52] <Das-Flo> Should I just randomly change the numbers in grub.cfg?
[02:52] <tule> lostinspace_46: should have said and BEFORE your filename
[02:53] <cremaster> hi folks, i dont have an asound folder under /proc - i'm on karmic, is this normal?
[02:53] <Viper1432> fk_007,  from a terminal you could do aptitude install xubuntu-desktop to reinstall all the basic xubuntu stuff.
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> acclaimtech:  scp works much like cp only it can take host/username as options to copy stuff to/from remote machines
[02:53] <ZykoticK9> blakkheim, could you please stop telling everyone who asks a question to "man X" it's similar to RTFM
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> with scp and ssh - it IS worth reading the man pages.
[02:53] <fk_007> Viper1432: cool man i appreciate your help, i'll try that
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> scp --help also has a good summary
[02:54] <lostinspace_46> ZykoticK9, I tried that.  I am having some issues using the PPA
[02:54] <Viper1432> fk_007,  as long as your net connection is good (which it should be if you're getting to the login), reinstalling via apt or aptitude on the cmd line is easy.
[02:54] <Viper1432> and no problem and good luck fk_007
[02:54] <blakkheim> ZykoticK9: yeah, it's the "nice way" of saying that
[02:54] <ZykoticK9> blakkheim, well it's not really very "nice"
[02:54] <blakkheim> ZykoticK9: nicer than the alternative
[02:54] <wolfie1> hello
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> Das-Flo:  You could learn how grub works and the commnd line for it. and try changeing  the hd#'# from the grub command line till you find an entry that works.
[02:54] <gsgleason> when it's clear they haven't read the man page it's perfectly appropriate.
[02:54] <wolfie1> I need help with mp3
[02:55] <ZykoticK9> lostinspace_46, what issue?  if you're on Karmic it should only be a "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa" then "sudo apt-get install pidgin" and you're done
[02:55] <lostinspace_46> tule, configure is the filename
[02:55] <wolfie1> I need to recode some mp3 from 128 to 96
[02:55] <blakkheim> wolfie1: try ffmpeg
[02:55] <wolfie1> with lame, the problem is that, in the process, all the id3tag is lost
[02:55] <wolfie1> any idea? :(
[02:55] <Das-Flo> Dr_Willis: Yes, I understand that I'll have to edit that file. However, I'm working from a live cd here and I heard not to manually edit stuff into grub.cfg?
[02:55] <wolfie1> ffmpeg will keep the id3?
[02:55] <Duskin> Does ubuntu support ssh?
[02:55] <tule> lostinspace_46: i thought you were trying to compile something. no?
[02:56] <Spanglish_7776> yes duskin
[02:56] <gsgleason> wolfie, make a shell script to read the tags for a file saved as variables, reencode, then set the tags.
[02:56] <srv> Duskin, yes it does
[02:56] <Duskin> Is ssh always running or is there a command to turn it on?
[02:56] <wolfie1> mmmh.... good idea, thanks gsgleason
[02:57] <Trek> Duskin, it should run upon boot automatically
[02:57] <Spanglish_7776> Duskin, is it installed?
[02:57] <lostinspace_46> ZykoticK9, My Synaptic isn't adding repos correctly
[02:57] <Duskin> Spanglish_7776: no idea
[02:57] <myownserver> No one?
[02:57] <Spanglish_7776> sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[02:57] <srv> Duskin: apt-cache search ssh
[02:57] <Spanglish_7776> that will install it
[02:57] <Das-Flo> The whole disk is apparently read only from live
[02:58] <Duskin> What ports do I need to forward for ssh?
[02:58] <Spanglish_7776> 22
[02:58] <Duskin> Thanks all
[02:58] <myownserver> Freaking Ubuntu has pissed me off all day long and now this.
[02:58] <Trek> or, Duskin...
[02:58] <Trek> have it point to a custom port for extra security
[02:58] <lostinspace_46> tule, the program is pidgin-2.6.5 the file to run is configure
[02:58] <trineox> Duskin, like Spanglish advised...openssh server is real good....get in synaptic or apt-get install.
[02:58] <cremaster> alsa is supposed to write logs during bootup to /proc/asound but i dont have this asound folder, is it always there?
[02:59] <srv> Duskin: yeah, that'd be a safer practice
[02:59] <skullcandy> does anyone know of a easy to use keylogger for ubuntu?
[02:59] <acclaimtech> ok that's not working
[02:59] <Duskin> How do I change the port ssh uses?
[02:59] <Trek> Duskin: when you conbfigure the SSH config file, make sure you specify either port 22 or port <SomeOtherPortNumberHere>
[02:59] <Trek> in the config file, Duskin...
[02:59] <blakkheim> running ssh on a nonstandard port only lessens the amount of automated attempts to break in, it doesn't actually increase security
[02:59] <acclaimtech> Anything like an FTP client for SSH?
[02:59] <Duskin> Ah ok
[02:59] <blakkheim> acclaimtech: sftp, built into openssh
[02:59] <Trek> blakkheim, it helps to prevent auto-connectors from finding it
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> acclaimtech, gftp support ssh
[03:00] <blakkheim> Duskin: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:00] <Das-Flo> How can I save changes to my hdd installation from a live cd session? says it's read only
[03:00] <trineox> Blakkheim unless your isp blocks the general port as well
[03:00] <tule> lostinspace_46: yes, I know. So, from the shell, ./configure --disable-screensaver
[03:00] <blakkheim> trineox: this is also a possibility, didn't think of that
[03:00] <mac9416> acclaimtech, I believe Nautilus works as an SFTP client.
[03:01] <trineox> Blakkheim i run ipcop for my router and had to change its port due to that. took me forever to figure it out lol
[03:01] <Duskin> Are the commands for dash the same as bash?
[03:01] <srv> acclaimtech, filezilla supports for sftp, I'm using it for SourceForge.net
[03:01] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, yup
[03:02] <lostinspace_46> tule, I think I did that, but let me try again
[03:02] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, or at least 95%
[03:03] <Duskin> is there a way to use bash instead of dash?
[03:04] <Flannel> Duskin: You're currently using bash as a shell, dash is your default sh
[03:05] <pawan> hi
[03:05] <Duskin> Ah ok thanks everyone
[03:05] <Spanglish_7776> np duskin
[03:05] <trineox> ur welcome duskin always happy to help :-)
[03:05] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, oh darn, Flannel is correct i was getting /bin/sh and /bin/bash confused sorry - Flannel is correct, i'm all mixed up...
[03:09] <acclaimtech> thanks
[03:09] <acclaimtech> ;)
[03:13] <lostinspace_46> tule, I run "./configure --disable-screensaver" and get "Startup notification development headers not found.  Use --disable-startup-notification."  I run "./configure --disable-startup-notification" I get "XScreenSaver extension development headers not found. Use --disable-screensaver"  ???
[03:14] <kaz> I just installed Kubuntu 9.10 and Compiz-fusion, and whenver I use the desktop cube in compiz, it only shows that I have 2 desktops eventhough I try to set it to 4 everywhere else. When I use expo, it shows 4 desktops, but I can only use two for the desktop cube and when pressing Ctrl+Alt+left/right. How can I make it use all 4?
[03:14] <Stefanie> I am new
[03:15] <ZykoticK9> kaz, perhaps a question best asked in #kubuntu
[03:15] <Stefanie> hello word
[03:16] <kaddi> hello Stefanie :)
[03:16] <kaz> Ok, thanks.
[03:16] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, do you have a question?  if so please ask.  if you're just looking to chat try #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:16] <Stefanie> how to play vides
[03:17] <Stefanie> yehh
[03:17] <becker_11> I want to use ssh to connect to my home box from work how can I secure my home machine properly
[03:18] <Stefanie> my Ubutu  can not play films
[03:18] <soreau> kaz: Dual screens?
[03:19] <Stefanie> yes
[03:19] <trineox> Stefanie u mean dvd's?
[03:19] <Stefanie> no
[03:19] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?  what player are you using?  can you give any additional details
[03:19] <Stefanie> rmvb
[03:20] <kaz> soreau: I've hooked my computer up to a second monitor before, but right now it only has one.
[03:21] <soreau> kaz: Well, you can /msg FusioBot cube or viewports or, you can just come to #compiz and we can help you there
[03:21] <trineox> becker_11 ssh is secure , i would suggest using openssh server on your home machine
[03:22] <Stefanie> I down the Kmplay.but i do not know how to use
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> becker_11, be sure your user account has a strong password (think pass-sentence)
[03:22] <becker_11> trineox: I am running openssh server my problem is the port is visable during a port scan does that cause a problem
[03:22] <becker_11> ZykoticK9: thanks thats a good idea
[03:22] <trineox> becker_11 are you using a router?
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> becker_11, MANY MANY people are going to try and break into your ssh - thus the pass-sentence suggestion
[03:23] <Stefanie> i want to know that are you all Chinese?
[03:23] <becker_11> trineox: yeah wired router
[03:23] <becker_11> ZykoticK9: okay
[03:23] <trineox> becker, along with what zykotick9 said..also i suggest using nonstandard port as well
[03:23] <Stefanie>  i want to know that are you are  all Chinese?
[03:23] <becker_11> trineox: okay I'm off to strengthen my password
[03:23] <jack5463> Stefanie, no
[03:24] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, what does that have to do with anything?
[03:24] <trineox> becker, well i would ? your router it should stealth/ half open your port so its not seen.
[03:24] <trineox> becker_11 good luck :-)
[03:25] <Stefanie> it's my first time to chat in here
[03:27] <isolat3dsh33p> hey guys, does the gui for nautilus changed? D:
[03:27]  * unixalot has arrived
[03:27] <Stefanie> Are you all old user who were using Ubuntu?
[03:27] <unixalot> Stefanie: eh??
[03:28]  * unixalot is downloading gimphoto cause its a lot better than gimp
[03:28] <Stefanie> I mean you have used Ubuntu for long time,right?
[03:29] <q0_0p> anyone know why pid cli is running going to this ip address? 75.119.207.211:80?
[03:29] <unixalot> Stefanie: For a bit lol.
[03:29] <q0_0p> anyone know why pid cli is running going to this ip address? 75.119.207.211:80?
[03:30] <jkthecjer> hey all
[03:30] <jkthecjer> having trouble creating multiple interfaces on an atheros card (orinoco silver)
[03:30] <Stefanie> unixalot ,you are not in China now?
[03:30] <jkthecjer> it worked earlier today, so its possible
[03:31] <jkthecjer> but since then (even after restart), its failing
[03:31] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, why do you think everyone is in China?
[03:31] <jkthecjer> sudo wlanconfig ath1 create wlandev wifi0 wlanmode ap
[03:31] <jkthecjer> wlanconfig: ioctl: Input/output error
[03:31] <jkthecjer> any ideas?
[03:31] <Stefanie> guess
[03:31] <meowbuntu> how do i set up my mic i cant get it working
[03:32] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, i hightly doubt many people in this channel are in china - there is a specific chinese channel (not this one)
[03:32] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[03:33] <Stefanie> may it be.Are you Chinese?
[03:34] <mehheh> twas me there
[03:34] <GSF1200S> so I do a kernel update, and X fails to load on reboot. I try activating the drivers through jockey in low graphics mode, and while X works, glxinfo returns segfault and glxgears doesnt work. Then, I decide to gdm stop and install the nvidia binary from the website. It tells me permission denied, whether run as user, sudo (root), or even logging in as root to run
[03:34] <meowbuntu> how do i set up my mic i cant get it working
[03:34] <Stefanie> ZykoticK9,Are you Chinese
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> !cn | Stefanie
[03:35] <ZykoticK9> Stefanie, no
[03:35] <meowbuntu> !mic
[03:35] <meowbuntu> !microphone
[03:35] <Trek> !audio
[03:35] <q0_0p> anyone know why pid cli is running going to this ip address? 75.119.207.211:80?
[03:35] <Stefanie> and where are you come from
[03:35] <GSF1200S> if anyone has any ideas about my above issue, that would be great.. because otherwise im going back to arch.. this is bs
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: we couldn't knwo.  But it looks like an HTTP outbound/inbound connection
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: firefox?
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, only happens when i start internet
[03:36] <GSF1200S> im running plain jain xubuntu and ive had more crashes on it in the last 2 weeks than I ever had on arch
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, it only happens once
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, it stops after the first time
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: loading of the firefox start screen
[03:36] <Trek> q0_0p: thats my guess
[03:36] <q0_0p> Trek, i c
[03:37] <gamerx> hey
[03:37] <q0_0p> Trek, but if it was using firefox it would've showd up in the pid name
[03:37] <CryptoMole> I have a question about running older versions of ubuntu like edgy eft can you still do it ?
[03:37] <q0_0p> Trek, in netstat
[03:37] <gamerx> can someone help setting up darkice shoutcast server
[03:37] <q0_0p> Trek, it shows up as pid program cli
[03:37] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to check if elementary nautilus has replaced old nautilus? Besides the different looks?
[03:38] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, you could install them from their ISOs but there wouldn't be updates / repositories for you to add software with... kinda useless really
[03:38] <gamerx> its giving me this error DarkIce: TcpSocket.cpp:248: connect error [111]
[03:38] <CryptoMole> see I thought I read that somewhere.
[03:38] <Trek> q0_0p: that might mean CommandLineInterface
[03:39] <CryptoMole> sucks
[03:39] <q0_0p> Trek, u think something bad is going on?
[03:39] <gamerx> my darfice config is here: http://pastebin.com/f12493d0c
[03:39] <Trek> q0_0p: that the destination IP?
[03:39] <q0_0p> Trek, one sec
[03:39] <q0_0p> Trek, yes
[03:40] <CryptoMole> ok has anyone had any luck installing xmms from source on ubuntu?
[03:40] <gamerx> help!?!
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, audacious is "almost" the same as xmms was
[03:41] <Trek> q0_0p, not sure, its not a site that responds to HTTP requests
[03:41] <q0_0p> Trek, i went to the site nothing strangely to say
[03:41] <q0_0p> Trek, so i am confused
[03:41] <Trek> it hits errors, it could be a security threat could be nothing
[03:41] <CryptoMole> well it does not act like xmms in one respect
[03:42] <q0_0p> Trek, i guess best just block the IP
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> q0_0p, you can "whois $IPADDRESS" < i have no idea who they are
[03:42] <CryptoMole> which is show my song playing the bitrate frame by frame
[03:42] <Trek> q0_0p: yeah, and if an error/issue arises from that, then its easily reversible
[03:42] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, xmms is OLD man
[03:43] <CryptoMole> it worked
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, oh i used to use it all the time (for years)
[03:43] <CryptoMole> and im old that dont me im obsolete
[03:44] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, and i don't like xmms2 at all
[03:44] <CryptoMole> all i want is a solution to the audatious problem
[03:45] <CryptoMole> show the bitrate for my flac files frame by frame
[03:45] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, have you tried bmpx?  i haven't, but its also suppose to be similar accorting to !xmms
[03:46] <CryptoMole> not yet heard of it
[03:46] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, you have one very specific requirement there!
[03:47] <kameron> i'm trying to access my ext4 partition through third party drivers in windows xp. currenty nothing reads from ext4. is there a way to downgrade-convert my partition to ext3 or cripple ext4 enough that win will read it?
[03:47] <CryptoMole> ZykoticK9: hey xmms did this on its own with all my wav and .flac files
[03:47] <xangua> format¿ :S
[03:47] <LavaEagle> Does Xubuntu support xsf?
[03:48] <CryptoMole> ZykoticK9: thanks for trying to help.
[03:48] <kameron> LavaEagle, xfs?
[03:48] <DrDamnit> Trying to install unixODBC for use with PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 9.10 server. Getting error: ]Can't open lib '/usr/lib/libodbcpsql.so'
[03:49] <LavaEagle> XSF something like that it is similar to ext4 kind of thing
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, i hope you find a suitable alternative
[03:49] <kameron> LavaEagle, xfs. and yes it does.
[03:49] <CryptoMole> yeah me too.
[03:49] <LavaEagle> xfs
[03:49] <LavaEagle> ty
[03:49] <LavaEagle> Is it worth it to go to that format?
[03:49] <kameron> it depends on what you're doing with your system.
[03:49] <CryptoMole> proably end  up messing with audatious.
[03:49] <kameron> i'd reccomend reading a comparison of linux filesystems.
[03:49] <LavaEagle> for high transfers of files
[03:50] <LavaEagle> I believe thats what it's for
[03:50] <LavaEagle> amirite?
[03:50] <DrDamnit> Trying to install unixODBC for use with PostgreSQL on Ubuntu 9.10 server. Getting error: ]Can't open lib '/usr/lib/libodbcpsql.so' can anyone help?
[03:51] <kameron> LavaEagle, you should read up on XFS, JFS, ReiserFS, ext4, etc and compare them for yourself. i can't tell you which is best for you.
[03:52] <CryptoMole> ZykoticK9: hey bpmx only for ubuntu?
[03:52] <q0_0p> DrDamnit, i dont know if this is correct but i would've sudo updatedb; locate thelib.so then link it to '/usr/lib/whereever ?
[03:53] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, ? no idea -- i doubt it, if it's in ubuntu usually mean i can run on any linux
[03:53] <CryptoMole> is it the same as beep media player
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, OH YA - that's probably what it is!
[03:54] <CryptoMole> dropped from repo's
[03:54] <CryptoMole> debian
[03:54] <DrDamnit> @g0_0p: the ilb doesn't exist. It's supposed to be in the unixODBC package for postgres, but it's not there. Was it renamed? Dunno. What do you think?
[03:54] <ZykoticK9> !xmms | CryptoMole
[03:55] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, ^ that's where i got it from
[03:55] <akoimeexx> Anyone know where I can find the device path for my mic input? /dev/dsp Doesn't seem to be working with XVidCap Screen Capture on an HP Mini, though I get feedback fine from the sound settings using Line In.
[03:55] <LavaEagle> kameron: btw i am now reading
[03:56] <kameron> LavaEagle, good
[03:56] <CryptoMole> I use lenny and beep media play is not in our standard repo.
[03:56] <iflema> CryptoMole may i ask why you want/need an older version of ubuntu... whats your limitation(s)
[03:56] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, if you're using Lenny, why are you here?  wouldn't #debian be a better place?
[03:57] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, i search in ubuntu's repo it isn't here either
[03:57] <CryptoMole> i wanted it because it was built on etch technology basicaly
[03:57] <CryptoMole> and the repos were from etch
[03:57] <DrDamnit> Where can I get libodbcpsql.so
[03:57] <DrDamnit> ?
[03:57] <CryptoMole> in other terms
[03:58] <ryanprior> Is there any diff viewer for Gnome that works across GIO or SSH, so I can sync my local development directory to my server?
[03:59] <CryptoMole> I i liked the older edgy because it had xmms and the older audacity mad madman etc
[03:59] <ZykoticK9> CryptoMole, good luck man - i'm off to watch some TV for a while, hope you find a solution/alternative - or get XMMS going ;)  take care man
[03:59] <CryptoMole> thanks
[04:00] <CryptoMole> I give up
[04:00]  * iflema luved XMMS 
[04:00] <CryptoMole> later
[04:01] <CryptoMole> iflema: me too
[04:02] <Jordan_U> ryanprior, GVFS mounts are accessible by any application if only through ~/.gvfs
[04:03] <Jordan_U> ryanprior, But if you really want to sync files for development you might consider using a revision control system like git
[04:04]  * iflema :*)
[04:07] <nixjr> ive recently replaced windows with ubuntu, all my data drives are ntfs, is there any benefit to converting these to ext3, and if so can it be done without loosing my data?
[04:07] <infid> is git easier to learn than svn?
[04:08] <ryanprior> infid: svn and git are different types of revision controls sytems. git is more modern.
[04:08] <i58> infid, not in my opinion
[04:08] <Demonous> Would anyone be aware of any public virtual private networks that any guest would be allowed to connect to?
[04:09] <ryanprior> nixjr: There is not much benefit to converting all your drives. However, if you buy new drives in the future, you can format them as ext4 or whatever's modern at that time (btrfs is coming up) and copy your data over.
[04:09] <Zer> Is there anything one needs to do to get Ubuntu to use traffic control (tc) settings?
[04:10] <Jordan_U> infid, IHMO yes, but there are many that would disagree
[04:11] <ryanprior> infid: as far as Ubuntu usage and development goes, we largely use Bazaar (bzr) which is more similar to git.
[04:11] <Jordan_U> infid, For just working with your own stuff http://spheredev.org/wiki/Git_for_the_lazy should be all you need
[04:11] <nixjr> ryanprior, since i keep different types on data on drifferent drives (photos, movies, msuic etc) is it possible to optimise a drive the specific data?
[04:12] <mrpink57> nixjr: certain types fo formats do things better xfs is great for large files
[04:12] <ryanprior> nixjr: good ole fat32 works quite well for a drive that contains only movies; ext3 or ntfs would both work well with photos or music.
[04:12] <ryanprior> nixjr: xfs would also be good for a movie drive, as mrpink57 suggests
[04:13] <artistx> keep in mind fat32 has a file size limit of 4g minus 1 byte.
[04:13] <mrpink57> i'd avoid ntfs is still using what 2001 gave usw
[04:13] <mrpink57> us
[04:13] <nixjr> artistx, ah in the case it would be no good, about 40% of my movies are hd now
[04:13] <vaelenn> Hi all!
[04:14] <gmachine_24> Greetings Earthlings. I got an error message which told me to restart nautilus and I found the command to quit nautilus - I think - being    >nautilus -q    but I could not find one to restart it and I read somewhere the computer should automatically restart nautilus but this did not happen.... so... any help please TIA
[04:14] <nixjr> would sharing between a linux and windows box, using etx3 and ntfs repectively, add considerable overhead to network transfers?
[04:15] <mrpink57> if they're hd files they are going to take a long time no matter what
[04:15] <vaelenn> I'm new to Ubuntu and just loaded it on my HP NC6000.  I tried to google for a command to install video driver (Intel) but can't find the proper command.  Any ideas?
[04:15] <LavaEagle> nixjr: It doesn't for me, I go between Ubuntu 9.04 and Windows home server 2008 on a N Router and stream videos absolutely fine
[04:16] <JULinuxUser_> I was told to add the repo found here https://launchpad.net/~philip5 What Repo? I don't see one. So I could get libavformat.so.52 for Audacity.
[04:16] <artistx> vaelenn, the package manager should have video codecs
[04:16] <pradeep> how to configure the boot options in karmic??
[04:17] <vaelenn> art:  package manager from add apps?
[04:17] <YangYin> how do i get networked printer working in ubuntu 8.04.4 server?
[04:17] <artistx> i just use the synaptic package manager in the menu.
[04:18] <artistx> vaellen,  the command you want is:  apt-get install
[04:18] <YangYin> artistx: with server there is no menu
[04:18] <artistx> sudo apt-get install
[04:18] <blakkheim> or aptitude instead of apt-get
[04:19] <artistx> I'm using the artistx distro with about 2500 multi-media tools already installed ; )
[04:20] <vaelenn> Thanks, trying...
[04:20] <roboboy> Stuuuupid question: how do you get ubuntu to install the man pages for all the standard C library functions (and maybe even the c++ functions?)
[04:21] <YangYin> roboboy: i thought those were in the -doc pacages
[04:22] <roboboy> hmm don't know the full name for that package, or how to search for it without getting signal to noise insanity :)
[04:23] <roboboy> oh I found a useful link on google nvm mind me
[04:23] <Flannel> roboboy: glibc-doc and manpages-dev
[04:23] <spenser> can anyone help me with apache.  I'm trying to setup pam auth using authnz_external and pwauth but I cant get it to work.  When I run sudo -u www-data pwauth; echo $? i get 0 but i just keep getting prompted for my password when I try to connect.
[04:24] <spenser> to the server
[04:24] <bobomomopopobob> SOUND help:  it looks like I'm loading the ALSA module twice.  Sound is having intermittent problems, and I've lost sound in firefox.   I can go to the multimedia control panel and play test sounds, but it fails sometimes.
[04:24] <roboboy> thanks flannel
[04:25] <jack5463> I've found it makes more sense to delete ubuntu and reload it than to ask here for solutions to an os that breaks often.
[04:26] <grumbly> Is anyone here familiar enough with gnome-shell to help me change some of its settings?
[04:27] <LavaEagle> jack5463: troll alert!
[04:27] <jack5463> usually no one has an answer that works correctly
[04:27] <LavaEagle> When you say something like that your looking for attention
[04:28] <jack5463> LavaEagle, really. I delete and reload rather than trying to fix it
[04:28] <grumbly> gnome-shell is pretty fantastic but there's some things I want to change- like the panel... and how the applications are displayed
[04:28] <bastid_raZor> LavaEagle: in all honesty.. jack5463 has a point.. this channel has lost more of the upper echelon people in the past few months.. now you have more of the people who have very little clue trying assist everyone.
[04:28] <vaelenn> OK, tried sudo apt-get install command, software center and still low res on my NC6000.  I'm definitively lost here.  Any other suggestions?
[04:29] <LavaEagle> When has just trying to help ever hurt anyone?
[04:29] <grumbly> vaelenn: I am not sure Xorg 7.4 supports that card any more.... I was having similar problems
[04:29] <ekim1> bastid_raZor, why have the "upper echelon people" leave??
[04:29] <mezquitale> !ot | bastid_raZor
[04:30] <LavaEagle> Plus I have received plenty of good help
[04:30] <gmachine_24> not to mention the free beer
[04:30] <bbelt16ag> ok how the heck do i turn off  auto mount for my  data disks.
[04:30] <bbelt16ag> my script is  breaking.
[04:31] <lukasz> jak za instalować direct x ?
[04:31] <mneptok> !pl | lukasz
[04:31] <gmachine_24> bbelt16ag you mean as in hard drives?
[04:31] <bbelt16ag> no Disks
[04:31] <vaelenn> grumby:  That will explain it.  It was worth tying...  Thanks for the info.
[04:31] <bbelt16ag> harddrive maybe a disk but i am talking dvds
[04:31] <gmachine_24> what kind of 'Disks'
[04:31] <vaelenn> i meant trying...
[04:31] <gmachine_24> oh.
[04:31] <mezquitale> jack5463, usually the best help comes from people who have experienced the same issue as you and log in and want to help, you dont need to be a "upper echelon" person to be of help.  If you find that no one in the room is able to help you then search in the forums, if it's a bug then search launchpad and/or file a bug report, then try the channel at another time
[04:32] <bbelt16ag> i want to mount my own  dvd thankyou very much
[04:32] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, What does your script do?
[04:32] <gmachine_24> how positively old school of you
[04:32] <grumbly> vaelenn: if you dont need compositing, the nuoveau ppa is pretty useable
[04:32] <bbelt16ag> reads my disk
[04:32] <bbelt16ag> its  bash script so mount /media/cdrom
[04:33] <jack5463> LavaEagle, i received good help too but I've run into so many problems sometimes i can't even explain what the problem is like I can get flash to run some video on youtube and not other video on youtube. would take me hours to straighten it out when it only takes an hour to delete it and reload
[04:33] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, So you want to disable auto mounting of DVDs because it breaks your script to auto mount DVDs?
[04:33] <bbelt16ag> no
[04:33] <grumbly> jack5463: I have been in the same situation, but there will come a time when that isnt a viable option...
[04:34] <bbelt16ag> my script mounts my dvd reads it and then put that info in a flat file  DB and then ejects the disk. rinse and repeat
[04:34] <grumbly> jack5463: and it's better Over All to know how to resolve such issues.
[04:34] <vaelenn> Remember:  vaelenn=newbie ..., what's nuoveau ppa?
[04:34] <LavaEagle> jack5463: haha ok I understand where your coming from, but once you do it once you know how to do it again right?
[04:34] <jack5463> grumbly, yes if i didn't have another os to use I'd be in trouble
[04:34] <mneptok> LavaEagle / jack5463: this is all off-topic
[04:35] <grumbly> mneptok: agreed
[04:35] <LavaEagle> Sorry
[04:35] <grumbly> so, can anyone help me out with gnome-shell
[04:35] <jack5463> mneptok, it's not really offtopic it's just ubuntu
[04:35] <ekim1> the easiest thing to do is to have at least two pc's.  Once for linux and one for searching issues.
[04:35] <mneptok> !offtopic > jack5463
[04:35] <ekim1> :D
[04:35] <grumbly> it is great, but it isn't quite right
[04:35] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, Can you just remove the mounting part of the script? umount and eject should still work fine.
[04:36] <bbelt16ag> i suppose i could try that.
[04:36] <LavaEagle> ekim1 agreed
[04:36] <jack5463> I saw it
[04:36] <bbelt16ag> lets see
[04:36] <mneptok> jack5463: this channel is for support for Ubuntu. not Ubuntu in general.
[04:36] <ryanprior> grumbly: gnome-shell is not supported in any version of Ubuntu yet.
[04:37] <gmachine_24> bbelt16ag go to "places" and choose cd/dvd creator andlook under >edit>preferences
[04:37] <jack5463> I really really wanted a viable os but ubuntu breaks down daily
[04:37] <mneptok> GNOME shell is also not supported in any stable release of GNOME
[04:37] <blakkheim> !troll | jack5463
[04:37] <gmachine_24> as in >edit>preferences>media
[04:37] <vaelenn> OK found an ubuntu driver for ATI Radeon 9600 on AMD.com.  File ends with .run, any ideas how do I install it.  Install manager is not accepting it as a valid file.
[04:37] <mneptok> jack5463: stay on-topic.
[04:37] <grumbly> ryanprior: I understand, but... it is pretty fantastic...
[04:37] <ryanprior> grumbly: you bet it is. I suggest taking questions to the proper mailing list. :-)
[04:38] <grumbly> vaelenn: not to be a downer, but check on the website
[04:38] <jack5463> okay give me a way to fix ubuntu
[04:38] <grumbly> ryanprior: you think #gnome on irc.gnome.org will have some answers?
[04:38] <mneptok> jack5463: now you're being deliberately vague, and beginning to severely test my patience.
[04:39] <ryanprior> grumbly: TBH, certain people in particular will have answers, because they are the devs and early neck-deep testers. Most people you talk to will have no experience with gnome-shell.
[04:39] <meowbuntu> if i want to find and copy just grup 2 from this install what do i do
[04:39] <LavaEagle> Isn't there a higher level of dev help than this?
[04:39] <vaelenn> Sorry, web site led me to this channel for help.  Guess I'll just leave you guys and keep looking elsewere.
[04:39] <ryanprior> grumbly: most of the people with the answers you want will be subscribed to http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
[04:40] <mneptok> grumbly: are you hacking on GNOME shell or do you have sufficient knowledge of GNOME to provide good QA work? if not, GNOME devs are going to encourage you not to use untested, unreleased code.
[04:40] <jack5463> mneptok, My flash stopped working just now. Now i can't watch videos on youtube. ubuntu 9.10 on usb. How can I repair it? Some videos work and some don't.
[04:40] <mezquitale> jack5463, i've been in the room for 10-15 minutes and you have yet to describe a problem with ubuntu and that you want to fix it ***now***, all  youre saying is you  always have a problem with ubuntu - youre clearly trolling
[04:40] <grumbly> mneptok: I am simply hackin...
[04:40] <songer> hello everybody
[04:40] <mezquitale> LavaEagle, yes, file a bug report in launchpad
[04:40] <songer> how you guys doing?
[04:40] <bbelt16ag> gmachine_24:  nothing under places that says cd
[04:40] <LavaEagle> ty
[04:40] <songer>  i can't set my resolution
[04:41] <grumbly> but i say F' them devs!!! makin' sweet software and not makin' it stable... balls...
[04:41] <songer> i already installed my nvidia drivers
[04:41] <bbelt16ag> and if i take out mount  i takes longer to mount it and my script just go aheads and  trys to  read
[04:41] <bbelt16ag> and  fails.
[04:41] <grumbly> songer: have you checked the nvidia website/forums yet? and is the videocard supported by Xorg 7.4?
[04:41] <mneptok> jack5463: i386 or x86-64?
[04:42] <grumbly> (i dont really say f the devs...)
[04:42] <Jordan_U> LavaEagle, You probably aren't interested but Canonical also provides commercial support if you really need it.
[04:42] <jack5463> mezquitale, I've had ubuntu fail several times, freeze. Why does it do that?
[04:42] <grumbly> (they're great folks)
[04:42] <jack5463> mneptok, i386
[04:42] <mneptok> jack5463: sudo apt-get purge flash-installer && rm -r ~/.mozilla/firefox/$YOUR_PROFILE/cache/* && sudo apt-get install flash-installer
[04:42] <gmachine_24> well if you can find the cd/dvd creator you can set the computer so it does nothing when you insert a recorded DVD
[04:42] <jack5463> mneptok, yesterday it worked fine. today it doesn't work
[04:43] <mezquitale> jack10, usually it has to do with hardware or software that doesnt play nice with your hardware but youre not being specific, it  "fails" or freezes when? have you noticed what you were doing when it froze?
[04:43] <mneptok> jack5463: proprietary software stinks, don't it?
[04:43] <gmachine_24> I'm sure there is another way to do this but if you insert a blank cd/dvd the cd/dvd creator should open and you can edit its properties
[04:44] <ryanprior> jack5463: Flash crashes a lot on every platform. For that reason, Apple has decided to stop supporting it... hopefully soon you won't want or need it on your computer. :-)
[04:44] <ryanprior> jack5463: in the meanwhile, you can install the Free Flash replacement Gnash, which works with many but not video sites.
[04:44] <MidnighToker> hi guys. how can I set permissions on a directory, so all files created inside of it automatically get r--r--r-- permissions, no matter the user creating them?
[04:44] <ryanprior> jack5463: many but not all*
[04:44] <songer> now i'll check it
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> ok seriously what part of ubuntut  software is mounting that  dvd
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> its not prompting or anything
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> it just mounts.
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> bad bad bad
[04:45] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, Probably nautilus
[04:45] <LavaEagle> I have an Asus 12.1 netbook atom 1.33ghz 160gb hdd 1gb ram,  could not make ubuntu netbook remix run at all on it, is this user error or simply its' not made for netbooks really?
[04:45] <bbelt16ag> ohhh i wanna  kil it
[04:45] <jack5463> mneptok, I'm glad i didn't delete my stable os. I think good advice for some would be to delete ubuntu and reload it because it's a faster alternative to finding fixes for problems.
[04:45] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, I dont believe you have a good grasp on how permissions work
[04:46] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: no, i dont.
[04:46] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: i was under the impression that i could set a 'sticky' bit on a directory, which controled the permissions of files created within
[04:46] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, gconf-editor > apps > nautilus > preferences, Uncheck the "media_automount" option ( https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/30501 )
[04:47] <carl_c> Hai
[04:47] <roboboy> is there some way of revealing the "mangled" identifies contained in a library?
[04:47] <cylent> sup
[04:48] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, that is a tricky question, it might be possible to do it using a script, the trick is that you want them to be read only, problem is a file needs to be writable first otherwise you cant create it-- you create the file then set the permissions
[04:48] <bbelt16ag> thanks
[04:48] <mneptok> jack5463: i think god advice is "stop beating the same old tired drumbeat and stay on topic regarding specific issues with Ubuntu support"
[04:48] <mneptok> jack5463: and that's the last time i'll give you that advice before i simply ban you.
[04:49] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: i'm happy for it to be writable for the owner, I just want to make sure its readable for everyone else.  -at the moment i'm in a situation where files are getting created rw------- which causes headaches and means I have to change the permissions every time something gets added, otherwise it can't be seen by the webserver
[04:49] <bbelt16ag> thanks Jordan_U
[04:50] <brand0n> what are the pros and cons of kde vs gnome
[04:50] <Jordan_U> bbelt16ag, np
[04:50] <brand0n> i currently use gnome, i liked XFCE but it was missing a few features i liked in gnome
[04:50] <brand0n> but ive never used KDE
[04:50] <brand0n> wondering if anyone had an opinion on this
[04:50] <mneptok> brand0n: ask such questions in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[04:51] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, this is what you do:
[04:51] <mneptok> brand0n: *everyone* has an opinion, and it usually degenerates into a flame war
[04:51] <Random832> MidnighToker; type 'umask' what does it say
[04:51] <MidnighToker> brand0n: install it, play with it and see if you like it.
[04:51] <fez> KDE 3 was great
[04:51] <brand0n> you telling me to ask somewhere seems more flamable than an opinion
[04:51] <fez> KDE4 is so so
[04:51] <scunizi> brand0n: tryr it.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then on the username boot screen change "sessions" to kde :)
[04:51] <brand0n> lol midnight
[04:51] <brand0n> my AIM screen name is "Midnight Toker" (no numbers)
[04:51] <brand0n> kind of weird
[04:51] <fez> KDE on ubuntu though isn't quite there IMHO
[04:51] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, you create a folder, chown it to   yourself:users,  give yourself whatever rights you want, and give users read rights only
[04:51] <fez> if you want kde i'd go with a more kde centric distro like mandriva
[04:52] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: its 0022
[04:52] <Random832> brand0n; do some people call you a space cowboy, and some people call you maurice?
[04:52] <brand0n> fez how is it performance wise compared to gnome
[04:52] <brand0n> lol sometimes
[04:52] <fez> same
[04:52] <brand0n> kk
[04:52] <brand0n> and sudo apt-get install kde
[04:52] <brand0n> should do it right
[04:52] <brand0n> then i can select session at login
[04:52] <fez> something like that
[04:53] <MidnighToker> brand0n: and k3b is very swish
[04:53] <fez> the package may be called kubuntu
[04:53] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, have you tried on your machine?
[04:53] <scunizi> brand0n: kubuntu-desktop not kde
[04:53] <fez> otherwise kde
[04:53] <fez> there you go
[04:53] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: tried what?
[04:53] <brand0n> thanks scunizi
[04:53] <brand0n> that wont overwrite ubuntu-desktop will it scunizi ?
[04:53] <brand0n> just let me select at login?
[04:53] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: umask returns '0022'
[04:53] <MidnighToker> brand0n: you can pick any DE/WM you like at login
[04:53] <scunizi> brand0n: I like them both.. kde is fast becoming my favorite.. no it wont' overwrite ubuntu.. you'll have the choice on each boot
[04:54] <brand0n> ok thank scunizi
[04:54] <brand0n> and midnight
[04:54] <Seven_Six_Two> i have 2 boxes. logged in to 1 with user "user1" and logged in to 2 with user "user2". sitting at 1, I do "ssh -X user2@ipaddress2" to get gui apps on my display. I'd like to make it so that in ssh session, I can start an app that pops up for user2. Is this possible?
[04:54] <bbelt16ag> weird
[04:55] <bbelt16ag> mount is failing
[04:55] <mezquitale> MidnighToker, have you tried changing the permissions on a folder, then create a file inside that folder and check to see that you have whatever permissions to yourself and everyone else read only
[04:56] <jack5463> I'm trying to play a music video on youtube, it won't play. I tried sudo apt-get purge flash-installer && rm -r ~/.mozilla/firefox/$YOUR_PROFILE/cache/* && sudo apt-get install flash-installer but it didn't fix the problem. Yesterday it worked fine. I've made no changes to the program. It happened after rebooting.
[04:56] <mneptok> jack5463: you need to specify your actual profile
[04:56] <jack5463> mneptok, what's a profile?
[04:57] <mneptok> jack5463: look in ~/.mozilla/firefox
[04:57] <bbelt16ag> hmmm
[04:57] <MidnighToker> mezquitale: yes, but its for a website, so its a little different
[04:57] <bbelt16ag>  ok the dvd deivce needs to know there is a disc in there before it  trys to mount it..
[04:58] <jack5463> mneptok, are you saying i should look up the definition?
[04:58] <bbelt16ag> so i cant have my try open and then do mount /media/cdrom from cli and close  try and try to mount, it fails.. bummer
[04:58] <mneptok> jack5463: i am telling yo to go look inside a folder.
[04:58] <mneptok> jack5463: do you know how display hidden folders and examine their contents?
[04:59] <jack5463> mneptok, yes. so you're saying to delete the profile and create another one?
[05:00] <mneptok> jack5463: no. can you tell what i mean by reading the terminal command i gave you, or would you like more explanation?
[05:01] <cylent> sup guys
[05:02] <mezquitale> jack5463, how does flash fail when youre using it?  Sound doesnt work or you get no video at all?  I've had the same problem with sound, i see the video but no sound, or the video plays for some time but then it stops
[05:02] <jsoft> Is there a way to make ubuntu cancel out the noise coming from the neighbours stereo?
[05:02] <kameron> LavaEagle, get it sorted out with your filesystem? i was away for a bit.
[05:02] <kameron> jsoft, is that a joke?
[05:02] <jsoft> *sigh*. No, I am completely serious.
[05:03] <jack5463> mezquitale, the window shows up, just black where the video is supposed to be but on other videos it works fine
[05:03] <LavaEagle> kameron: Installing xfs going to test it out if my needs necessitate a xfs file system if not back to ext4
[05:03] <scunizi> jsoft: sudo -rf /neighbor
[05:03] <Geoffrey2> !nfs
[05:04] <LavaEagle> !love
[05:04] <jsoft> :)
[05:04] <kameron> LavaEagle, cool. i use XFS with my mythtv setup. works great.
[05:04] <kameron> jsoft, do you mean a sort of electrical interference.. or just their loud music?
[05:05] <mneptok> LavaEagle: GRUB has serious issues with XFS. keep /boot off of XFS formatted space
[05:05] <kameron> scunizi, rm -rf perhaps?
[05:05] <carl_c> !talk
[05:05] <mezquitale> jack5463, can you give me the url of the video so I can go and see if I am able to see it myself?
[05:05] <kameron> LavaEagle, oh yeah. i assume you read about that. i wouldn't boot to an xfs partition.
[05:05] <LavaEagle> kameron: XBMC looks extremely cool
[05:05] <LavaEagle> ......
[05:06] <LavaEagle> I just did though
[05:06] <scunizi> kameron: yep..stretching & typing w/ one finger & a cat on my lap
[05:06] <mneptok> LavaEagle: it's not that it doesn't work. it's just that it's likely to break.
[05:06] <kameron> LavaEagle, oh. well i haven't tried it with grub2, but legacy grub was a major pain. maybe grub2 works well? i don't know.
[05:06] <kameron> scunizi, classic irc position.
[05:07] <LavaEagle> mneptok: Break as in the middle of Stargate break or break as in ???
[05:07] <mneptok> LavaEagle: break as in "it booted yesterday. today it hangs."
[05:08] <kameron> LavaEagle, i would only use a ext filesystem for my OS and especially /boot. for media storage, etc, the other filesystem options are more attractive.
[05:09] <LavaEagle> kameron: Ok I misunderstood the purpose of xfs then
[05:09] <LavaEagle> Time for mandris
[05:11] <jack5463> mezquitale, this one doesn't work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiLveKVQjbY This one works - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCPQubIE2Hk&feature=rec-LGOUT-real_rn-3r-2-HM
[05:14] <scunizi> first one works for me jack5463
[05:15] <giantpune> i was just in a ubuntu-help chat and now it says it is invite only.  can somebody invite me?
[05:15] <bbelt16ag> i fixed it
[05:15] <bbelt16ag> i made it mount  fail, sleep 5, then mount again
[05:15] <jack5463> scunizi, worked for me until i shut down and rebooted.
[05:16] <mezquitale> giantpune, if you want help with ubuntu youve come to the right place, this is ubuntu's support channel
[05:17] <YouDidWut> Anyone know of a free voice changer for ubuntu?
[05:17] <jack5463> mezquitale, do you have an idea why one would work and the other will not?
[05:19] <LavaEagle> Is it theoretical that I could take a 3.5inch sata hdd and hook it up to a laptop with sata cords?
[05:20] <mezquitale> jack5463, it has to do with the flash software, try other drivers
[05:21] <n1lqj> Okay, firefox was downloading a 600 meg file, deleted the file from desktop accidently and cleared the trash.  File downloaded and lsof showed it was downloaded (deleted)  file is gone but so is the 700 megs of drive space, anyone know how to get it back?
[05:21] <mezquitale> jack5463, you have 64 bit machine?
[05:22] <jack5463> mezquitale, 32 bit
[05:22] <blakkheim> n1lqj: du -sh ~/.mozilla
[05:23] <mezquitale> jack5463, here's your answer, it's a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/410407\
[05:23] <mezquitale> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/410407
[05:23] <n1lqj> 130M	/home/vincent/.mozilla
[05:23] <blakkheim> n1lqj: du -sh /tmp
[05:24] <n1lqj> du -sh /tmp
[05:24] <jack5463> mezquitale, the url isn't right.. says - There’s no page with this address in Launchpad.
[05:24] <mezquitale> jack5463, you have compiz enabled?
[05:24] <n1lqj> here is a screenshot, worth 1000 words
[05:25] <mezquitale> jack5463, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/410407
[05:25] <n1lqj> http://vchapman.us:8000/WTF.png
[05:26] <scunizi> jack5463: did you enable the medibuntu repos and install ubuntu-restricted-extras and also installed flashplugin-nonfree? if so you may have two flash drivers installed. uninstall the non-free version.
[05:26] <n1lqj> .. /tmp is 76k
[05:26] <n1lqj> /home is on its own partition and space is missing on /home partition
[05:27] <blakkheim> n1lqj: i'm not sure where the temp file could be, then. did you actually check the trash directory?
[05:27] <n1lqj> vincent@abaddon:~/Pictures$ ls-trash
[05:27] <n1lqj> vincent@abaddon:~/Pictures$
[05:27] <n1lqj> nothing
[05:28] <Acoustyk> Does anyone know a way to run gizmo without it monopolizing the soundcard?
[05:28] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, pulse audio was supposed to be the answer for that but you can try running it through jack, catch is anything else that uses audio needs to be routed through jack as well
[05:30] <Acoustyk> what jack
[05:30] <Acoustyk> ?
[05:30] <n1lqj> root@abaddon:/home# find / -name *.iso* -print
[05:30] <n1lqj> nada
[05:30] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: is it like a physical jack?
[05:31] <indus> hi
[05:31] <gh0st> hello guys, i was wondering, i have a up to date ubuntu server install, and was curious if there was a way for me to launch a dedicated x video session to watch an avi using vlc. im in front of terminals all day, and was wondering if i could finally watch some mythbusters :) thnx in advance for the thought, i know this is a difficult/odd request. even a link that disscusses this would be helpful.
[05:32] <seawollf12> i want to find mac address from a file using grep how to get this?
[05:33] <blakkheim> seawollf12: you want to find your own MAC address?
[05:33] <seawollf12> ya
[05:33] <blakkheim> seawollf12: ifconfig -a | grep HWa
[05:33] <soreau> gh0st: There is actually a way to watch videos through mplayer in your terminal without X, using the fbdev vo method
[05:34] <seawollf12> blakkheim: it shows all the mac addresses.
[05:34] <gh0st> :soreau Is there any link that you could provide discussing this method? im very intruiged :)
[05:34] <blakkheim> seawollf12: isn't that what you want?
[05:35] <soreau> gh0st: However, it is only possible with fbcon loaded, so you'd have to be using radeon with kms for example. I don't think nvidia can do it
[05:35] <mobius2> I finally got my independent dual monitors running smoothly in beryl
[05:35] <seawollf12> what i want to exactly get is, i am storing the arping output for a client in a file and from there i want to grep the mac which starts with [ and ends with ]
[05:35] <mobius2> I will not go back to one screen!!!!
[05:35] <mobius2> it was SO worth the work
[05:35] <mobius2> the "work"
[05:35] <gh0st> damn, its just some on board chippy's. :(
[05:35] <mobius2> lol
[05:36] <ryanprior> mobius2: I hate to break it to you, but Beryl is way outdated. We've got Compiz++ now. :-\
[05:36] <mobius2> its compiz++
[05:36] <mobius2> "P
[05:36] <mobius2> the same project  :p
[05:36] <ryanprior> As in lower case c?
[05:36] <soreau> ! beryl | mobius2
[05:37] <mobius2> lol
[05:37] <soreau> mobius2: beryl != compiz
[05:37] <seawollf12> blakkheim?
[05:37] <mobius2> so
[05:37] <mobius2> multiple i2p nodes on single ubuntu install... has anyone done it?
[05:38] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: I looked it up
[05:38] <hyperstream> hey guys, just at a friends place, trying to boot the live cd (trying to convert him from windows) anyhow, it seems to load, until it gets to the part loading the gdm. i get a pink screen with funny colors, how ever im able to drop to console and run lspci - its a nv28 / geforce4 APG card, anyway i can resolve this display issue ? ive tried to use dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[05:38] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, yes, and?
[05:39] <soreau> hyperstream: Have you tried specifying Driver "vesa" in xorg.conf, then restarting gdm?
[05:39] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: kind of sucks.  I hope Ubuntu or Gizmo fixes this soon by default.
[05:39] <seawollf12> any body can tell how to get a pattern from a file using grep
[05:39] <hyperstream> soreau, i thought karmic didnt have a xorg.conf ?
[05:39] <Kismet> hey guys... my automounting dosen't work.. and i can not burn dvds anymore
[05:39] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: re-rouhting all my programs to JACK sounds like a huge pain
[05:39] <seawollf12> i want to grep the complete word which starts with [ and ends with ]
[05:39] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, yes, pulseaudio was supposed to be the answer but it fails miserably from my experience
[05:40] <hyperstream> soreau, ive just done a locate xorg.conf and there isnt one ?
[05:40] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, youre using karmic with pulse audio?
[05:40] <Kismet> anyone any idea
[05:40] <soreau> hyperstream: For proprietary drivers, X needs a conf file to be told which driver to load and how. Open drivers do not require a conf file with newer versions of X since X is good enough at guessing how to set up cards that have open driver support
[05:41] <soreau> hyperstream: If there is no xorg.conf in /etc/X11, create a default one with Xorg -configure
[05:41] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: Yeah and pulseaudio actually did solve a lot of issues but there's always something
[05:41] <mezquitale> Kismet, what is the output of df -h?
[05:41] <hyperstream> soreau, this is just the live cd (try ubuntu without installing)
[05:41] <hyperstream> soreau, ok one sec
[05:41] <seawollf12> ?
[05:41] <soreau> hyperstream: You said you could get to a console though
[05:41] <seawollf12> ?
[05:41] <seawollf12> ?
[05:41] <FloodBot4> seawollf12: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <hyperstream> soreau, yes via CTRL + ALT F1
[05:42] <mezquitale> Acoustyk, with pulse audio an application is not supposed to hog the audio card but apparently pulse audio is still not working as expected in ubuntu
[05:42] <seawollf12> ?
[05:42] <soreau> hyperstream: From there, stop gdm then run Xorg -configure to get a default conf file, then in the Device section put a line Driver "vesa" and restart gdm
[05:43] <hyperstream> soreau, thanks mate, giving that a shot now.
[05:43] <Kismet> mezquitale, something like Filesystem .... /dev/sda1 Size 8.5 gb used 3.5 avail 4.3g
[05:43] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, mezquitale i gotta say Pulse seems MUCH better under Lucid then it ever did under Karmic
[05:43] <artistx> how do i start compiz fusion from the command line?
[05:43] <Acoustyk> mezquitale: Figures.  I wish they'd fix it because I have no service at home and I'd like to run Gizmo on my comp so I can make and receive calls here
[05:43] <soreau> artistx: compiz &
[05:44] <gokturk> #cedega
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> artistx, from a terminal you mean?  "compiz --replace"
[05:44] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: I've had the same experience with both.
[05:44] <soreau> ZykoticK9: The --replace is not needed since the ubuntu wrapper script takes care of that for you
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[05:44] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, really?  hum, i'm finding it much less annoying
[05:44] <ZykoticK9> soreau, good to know, thanks
[05:45] <brand0n> anyone know a torrent client capable of running a .sh file upon completetion of a torrent
[05:45] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: the only issue I have is with Gizmo
[05:45] <hyperstream> soreau, i just replace the "nv" with "vesa" and continued to restart the service( also tried its suggestion with X -config /home/ubuntu/xorg.conf.new ) just getting a black screen
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, i don't even know what Gizmo is... googling now :)
[05:45] <mezquitale> Kismet, if you cant burn dvds it looks like it's because you only have 4.3 gigs available but if you look at /var/log/messages you might get a better a clue of why it's failing
[05:46] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: Haha, I use it with google voice.
[05:46] <hyperstream> soreau, wait, the service gdm start is still a pink flashing screen
[05:46] <LavaEagle> What is the command for updating without the update manager?
[05:46] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: It's useful in that way.
[05:46] <soreau> hyperstream: Did you make sure to cp the file with the vesa driver to /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:46] <Kismet> mezquitale, the problem is that i even can not start the application or with brasero i can not choose my dvd rom drive
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> Acoustyk, nice - I didn't know there was a functioning GoogleVoice client undre linux - very good to know
[05:47] <user1> can anyone answer me?
[05:47] <hyperstream> soreau, you are my god.
[05:47] <mezquitale> Kismet, you didnt see anything interesting in /var/log/messages?
[05:47] <minderaser> LavaEagle: apt-get update
[05:47] <LavaEagle> user1: just ask your question
[05:48] <Kismet> mezquitale, if i try cd/dvd creator oi get the error message "Nautilus cannot handle "burn" locations."
[05:48] <ryanprior> !anyone | user1
[05:48] <LavaEagle> ty!
[05:48] <Acoustyk> ZykoticK9: It's incredibly convenient save the sound card issue.
[05:48] <LuciusSir> why would sound keep dying ?
[05:48] <Kismet> mezquitale, nope nothing what was written recently
[05:48] <user1> after editing pdf with flpsed i am unable to open it with adobe acrobat on windows while it opens on evince linux.
[05:48] <soreau> hyperstream: If you would like to go a step further, and the machine has internet access: Install the nvidia driver (sys>admin>hardware drivers) and when it tells you to reboot, don't reboot but instead restart gdm/X again
[05:48] <user1> how do i resolve this
[05:49] <soreau> hyperstream: This way, you can show off 3D (compiz) effects
[05:49] <mezquitale> Kismet, i suggest you look at the forum or launchpad then, or you could try the room at another time and hopefully someone who's had the same problem can help you?  The problem I had was that I didnt have enough free space on my machine
[05:49] <minderaser> LavaEagle: that will just update the list of packages. You may want apt-get upgrade to actually install the newest packages. Check man apt-get
[05:49] <ryanprior> user1: that sucks. One possibility is to import the PDF into a program such as Inkscape or OpenOffice and then re-export it. Assuming that process maintains your formatting sufficiently, it might produce a better end-result.
[05:50] <Kismet> mezquitale, thank you for your time....
[05:50] <jellow_> Im having a majour issue with a bug that causes random lock ups which i can only solve by reboot , Nothing in logs , What are my options?
[05:50] <mezquitale> Kismet, no problem
[05:50] <hyperstream> soreau, thanks mate, ill install off this live cd first then repeat the steps to fix the display then ill continue to install the restricted drivers :)
[05:50] <hyperstream> soreau, thanks a mil.
[05:50] <ryanprior> jellow_: Personally, I usually cry when I'm in that situation. Have you been able to reproduce the lockup?
[05:50] <soreau> hyperstream: Even better. No problem.
[05:50] <mezquitale> jellow_, youre using karmic?
[05:51] <user1> ryanprior: how do i import pdf to openoffice writer. there is no option!
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> user1, i don't belive you can, i know the export - but doubt the import
[05:52] <LuciusSir> help me ! HELP ME! audio dies intermittently for no apparent reason, its not the hardware because on windows it worked fine
[05:52] <jellow_> ryanprior: No very hard to see any thing in common , Usualy its fine for first few days then gerneraly get worse but this could be just me
[05:52] <Acoustyk> Trying to learn how to script in terminal... Any recommended guides?
[05:52] <ryanprior> user1: I don't see an import option in OOo either. Try Inkscape.
[05:52] <dingdong> how to install .deb package from a http link from terminal?
[05:53] <jellow_> mezquitale: yes
[05:53] <dingdong> someboady?
[05:53] <ryanprior> jellow_: In your situation, inbetween tears, I would tend to suspect hardware issues. Do you have a particular reason not to?
[05:53] <dingdong> somebody*
[05:54] <disappearedng> anyway to roll back my firefox to 3.5?
[05:54] <theCarpenter> i'm trying to get aircrack working; it says i dont have driver sources installed or something; how/where can i install the sources for my wifi driver?
[05:54] <Guest1563> #ubuntu-tr
[05:54] <jellow_> ryanprior: it seems to work fine in windows *shivers*
[05:54] <jack5463> Where do i find flashplugin-nonfree / flashplugin-installer so I can remove it?
[05:54] <soreau> theCarpenter: aircrack-ng.org will tell you everything you need to know
[05:54] <k4rt33k> theCarpenter: Aircrcak has a list of supported wi-fi cards on their homepage
[05:54] <Guest1563> #pardus
[05:54] <dingdong> how to install .deb package from a http link from terminal?
[05:55] <soreau> dingdong: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:55] <ryanprior> dingdong: wget http://your-package.deb && dpkg install your-package.deb
[05:55] <ryanprior> jellow_: How about the LiveCD? Other versions of Ubuntu? Knoppix?
[05:55] <mezquitale> jellow_, what I would do is try another version of ubuntu.  8.04 would most likely work, or jaunty.  I had a very bad experience with jaunty, my desktop would lock up randomly, intrepid was fine and karmic plays nice with my machine
[05:56] <dingdong> ryanprior, oh so it can be done only by issuing 2 commands.. anyway thx.
[05:56] <jack5463> mezquitale,  Where do i find flashplugin-nonfree / flashplugin-installer so I can remove it?
, i tried that but for this i hv to download the file first and then issue this command.
[05:57] <ryanprior> dingdong: there might be a one-shot way to do it, but I'm not aware of one. :-)
[05:57] <LavaEagle> minderaser: can I "man anycommand" ? and get the manual or will -h --help do the same thing?
[05:57] <ruggerit> presshere, found a fix for the synaptics driver
[05:57] <jellow_> ryanprior mezquitale, No i only ever tried ubuntu , But come to think of it livecd never crashed
[05:57] <k4rt33k> jack5463: Try in the synaptic package manager
[05:57] <dingdong> ryanprior, ok
[05:57] <dingdong> :D
[05:57] <soreau> dingdong: ryanprior told you how to do it using wget
[05:57] <jack5463> k4rt33k, It's not there
[05:57] <k4rt33k> jack5463: you will find which version of it is installed and remove it
[05:58] <jellow_> mezquitale: il try few of the other releases but i has same issue on 9.04
[05:58] <dingdong> soreau, yeah but then again i hv to use 2 commands, i was thinking like there will be a command which will installa package from internet like this apt-get do
[05:58] <dingdong> :D
[05:58] <LuciusSir> help me ! HELP ME! audio dies intermittently for no apparent reason, its not the hardware because on windows it worked fine, it just stops randomly, sometimes it plays fine, sometimes it stops after an hour, sometimes in 5 mins
[05:58] <Guest1563> Hi friends varmı among you who understand from Cedega
[05:58] <Guest1563> ?
[05:59] <LavaEagle> Could I say sudo apt-get remove+ vlc   which would do the same as sudo apt-get install vlc?
[05:59] <soreau> dingdong: No, it doesn't work like that. apt-get has specific repos designed especially for ubuntu
[05:59] <dingdong> ok. :|
[05:59] <LavaEagle> Guest1563: ask your question please
[05:59] <soreau> dingdong: wget just downloads files. dpkg deals with deb packages directly
[06:00] <dingdong> hmmm, i got it.. thx
[06:00] <dingdong> :D
[06:00] <k4rt33k> jack5463: try this then apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i flash
[06:00] <fewf> Hi, how can I get 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to run when Ubuntu boots ?
[06:00] <k4rt33k> and try unistalling flash related packages
[06:01] <soreau> LuciusSir: Sounds like an issue with the audio drivers
[06:01] <k4rt33k> but it must show in synaptic as flash is a basic thing
[06:01] <seawollf12> how to pick a particular word from a file by passing the word no.
[06:01] <seawollf12> any idea
[06:01] <LuciusSir> soreau:  where might a log be stored if they're crashing ? didn't see anything promising under var/log
[06:02] <i58> seawolf, grep pattern file
[06:02] <fewf> Hi, how can I get 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to run when Ubuntu boots ?
[06:02] <sandman> Yeah, so. I changed sound cards, and the same thing is still happening.
[06:02] <soreau> LuciusSir: It sounds like they might be failing silently (no pun intended) but you can check the output of 'dmesg' right after it happens to see if there are any interesting messages
[06:02] <jellow_> Because of crashes , I have segemntaion fault on my ext4, I ran fsck on / and it spent ages correcting , Now i can only get grub rescue prompt , Is there anything i can do with grub rescue ?
[06:03] <seawollf12> anybody please help me
[06:03] <LavaEagle> "i58: seawolf, grep pattern file"
[06:03] <i58> seawolf12: grep pattern file
[06:04] <LuciusSir> soreau:  nope nothing just kernel boot messages
[06:05] <soreau> LuciusSir: Which audio chipset is it, as reported by lspci?
[06:05] <seawollf12> i58: my pattern starts with [ and ends with ], but in between there is mac address stored, that i want to pick
[06:06] <LuciusSir> soreau: intel ac'97
[06:06] <seawollf12> i also know the word no. it is 10th of the file
[06:06] <soreau> LuciusSir: If you reload the kernel module, does that fix it?
[06:06] <fewf> anyone?
[06:06] <seawollf12> how to pick by passing word no.
[06:06] <ryanprior> seawolf: cat yourfile | awk '{print($10)'
[06:06] <ryanprior> seawolf: cat yourfile | awk '{print($10)}'
[06:07] <i58> there you go, I missed that "no" meant number
[06:07] <fewf> Can anyone tell me how can I get 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' to run when Ubuntu boots ?
[06:08] <LuciusSir> soreau: it fixes itself and then f's up again internittently
[06:08] <LuciusSir> soreau:  so my assumption is its doing something...... on its own............. whatever program the audio crash happens in freezes tho
[06:08] <soreau> LuciusSir: Which application(s) are you testing the audio with
[06:08] <jack5463> k4rt33k, I tried - apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i flash in terminal and it just gave me a list of terms with flash in them. what am i supposed to do with the list?
[06:09] <LuciusSir> amarok and vlc and dragonplayer
[06:09] <LuciusSir> soreau:  all of them, same problem
[06:10] <sandman> My sound is WoW is thoroughly garbled. Anyone have some ideas?
[06:10] <soreau> LuciusSir: Have you checked audio properties, gstreamer-properties etc to see if there is some obvious problem?
[06:10] <i58> fewf: look into the /etc/rc scripts. you might not need the sudo
[06:10] <LuciusSir> soreau:  apparently audio is an issue i've yet to tackle, because no i don't even know what to look at in that case
[06:10] <obscurant1st> exit
[06:11] <vilkas> why i cannot enable visual effects?
[06:11] <sandman> Anyone know how to mute sound coming from the microphone from the speakers
[06:11] <vilkas> could it be because i run ubuntu from VMware?
[06:11] <sandman> But not from actually being captured by something like Mangler?
[06:11] <soreau> vilkas: Can you pastebin the output of 'compiz &' from your terminal to pastebin.com?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> jellow_, You can try running "ls" to list all partitions that grub can currently see, and then set the $prefix variable if needed, but you are probably better off just re-installing grub from a liveCD if you have one
[06:11] <soreau> vilkas: Yes, it is most definitely because vmware doesn't provide the 3D drivers to run compiz effects
[06:12] <soreau> vilkas: You can either try your luck with vbox, or just install ubuntu already
[06:12] <ryanprior> sandman: maybe check out http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/World_of_Warcraft
[06:12] <ryanprior> sandman: there are a couple of reasonable-looking suggestions there
[06:12] <vilkas> i need windows apps
[06:12] <vilkas> thats why i dont install it
[06:13] <vilkas> i would hate rebooting every 30mins
[06:13] <ryanprior> vilkas: you need to enable opengl hardware support in VMware to use visual effects on Ubuntu
[06:13] <mobius2> greetings
[06:13] <soreau> vilkas: There is wine to run windoze apps in linux
[06:13] <ryanprior> vilkas: you might be surprised by how well Ubuntu apps can replace Windows apps, though.
[06:13] <vilkas> soreau: i know but not all are awailable
[06:13] <Geoffrey2> are there any decent nfs clients for Windows that don't cost a fortune?  FOSS preferably.....
[06:14] <soreau> vilkas: Then what ryanprior said
[06:14] <LuciusSir> soreau:  under audio output in the multimedia manager it has two sets of audio devices...  when i test them none of them work
[06:14] <Jordan_U> vilkas, What type of apps?
[06:14]  * i58 hasn't needed a windoze app in 8 years :)
[06:14] <mobius2> is it possible to launch a game from terminal  and control the maximum  resolution the program is allowed to envoke this way?
[06:14] <Teedev> hi  everybody!
[06:14] <vilkas> and it cannot run some games :P
[06:14] <mobius2> is there a standard way of doing some thing like that or would it be specific to the game?
[06:14] <soreau> LuciusSir: Well if reloading the kernel module fixes it, then it's a driver problem
[06:14] <Teedev> i'm ubuntu user from thai
[06:14] <Raliuga_> cool
[06:15] <by_reis> #pardus
[06:15] <Acoustyk> Teedev: is it available in Thai?
[06:15] <by_reis> #ubuntu-tr
[06:15]  * mobius2 currently battles with figuring out how to launch the awesome game "astromenace" but not in full screen mode  ( because I run dualheads )
[06:15] <Jordan_U> mobius2, The game probably has a flag to set the resolution, if you *really* need to you can use a nested X server like xephyr to force it to a separate window, which you can then make full screen and control as you wish, but that's almost certainly overkill
[06:16] <mobius2> whenever I try to change the settings in  game i literally cannot navigate back through the darn menus
[06:16] <Teedev> my name's Teedev.
[06:16] <mobius2> its as if the way back the main game menu is GONE :p
[06:16] <mobius2> I know it sounds lame
[06:16] <theadmin> Uh. Can Ubuntu somehow reset the BIOS?
[06:16] <LuciusSir> soreau:  you mean from the cmdline ?
[06:16] <LuciusSir> soreau:  like rmmod and insmod ?
[06:17] <theadmin> Because mine just went back to defaults and it wasn't good, had to reconfigure stuff.
[06:17] <soreau> LuciusSir: rmmod and modprobe, but yes
[06:17] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, consider adding a NULL entry to your xorg.conf - when you start games it can turn one monitor off and run fullscreen in the other, very handy for gaming
[06:17] <by_reis> #cedega
[06:17] <vilkas> i cant find opengl options in VMware Player. only 3d accelerator which is enabled.
[06:17] <theadmin> by_reis: You forgot /join
[06:17] <mobius2> well Zykitic K9  I would you see but it's not even  using the old xorg anymore... and I dun blame you  for  overlookin  it  I was not aware of that fact until about 10 minutes ago myself
[06:18] <soreau> vilkas: You will find little or no support for 3D in vmware under windows
[06:18] <mobius2> ubuntu  karmic does not even  use a xorg.conf file
[06:18] <m0ar> Can anyone help me out a quickie?  I want someone to test if thay can reach my login with SSH
[06:18] <mobius2> loooool
[06:18] <mobius2> not with THAT name
[06:18] <Jordan_U> theadmin, Only by reflashing it, and you would know if you had done that.
[06:18] <iceroot> m0ar: ip?
[06:18] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, karmic WILL infact use an xorg.conf if you set it up - but i take it you aren't using nvidia so i'm probably not the right person to help ya
[06:18] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Uh, I just shutdown yesterday
[06:19] <obscurant1st> m0ar, k
[06:19] <obscurant1st> ip?
[06:19] <theadmin> Jordan_U: And today it went to defaults, including system time, so Ubuntu complained "Last mount time is in future" and I had to fsck to fix it
[06:19] <mobius2> Zykotick9 I was really just too scared to over ride all those bad@55 settings from compiz
[06:19] <mobius2> but thanks for the input
[06:19] <mobius2> more than i ususally get :p
[06:19] <hkbkdc> What are the programming languages needed to beocome an ubuntu developer
[06:20] <mobius2> a time machine
[06:20] <LuciusSir> soreau:  won't let me says they're in use
[06:20] <soreau> LuciusSir: Have you tried googling about your issue?
[06:20] <Jordan_U> theadmin, Probably a bad cmos battery or similar, definitely a hardware issue
[06:20] <iceroot> hkbkdc: gtk, qt, c, c++, python, perl   depending what package you are maintaining
[06:20] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Battery? o_O
[06:20] <LuciusSir> soreau:  yeah because i know thats everone's magic answer LOL
[06:20] <soreau> LuciusSir: Sometimes it helps if you use some key strings from lspci, with keywork linux or ubuntu
[06:21] <gangil> Does ubuntu  apply distro-specific patches to GDM ?
[06:21] <iceroot> gangil: yes
[06:22] <Jordan_U> theadmin, Even desktop computers have a small battery that keeps the clock running and often is needed to keep settings, if somehow power is lost the date/time and all settings will be lost
[06:22] <Filled-Void> HI all I just downloaded the AMD 64 bit ISO from the site and was going to try installing it but had a few concerns . One is Pulseaudio, Does it work fine on most systems or requires a lot of configuration to get correct?
[06:22] <objorn_> i've rebooted into a live cd, but i'm unable to resize one of my partitons, help:
[06:22] <objorn_> help? *
[06:22] <gangil> can you point me as to how can I apply them? and where can I find them?
[06:22] <theadmin> Jordan_U: Strange... But this computer is old.
[06:22] <gangil> iceroot: ^
[06:22] <theadmin> gangil: They are mainly all built-in I believe
[06:22] <soreau> objorn: do you have space to resize it, if you are trying to enlarge it?
[06:22] <objorn_> soreau: yes i do
[06:23] <Jordan_U> Filled-Void, It works fine on most systems, but problems are common enough that you may run into them.
[06:23] <iceroot> gangil: they are in the deb-files
[06:23] <objorn_> over 15gb unallocated
[06:23] <soreau> obiwan_: Have you not hit the max size, before needing to create an extended partition?
[06:23] <mobius2> has anyone in here ever installed ubuntu to a dell inspiron 1525?  how did it go?
[06:23] <Filled-Void> Jordan_U, Would it be easily fixable? :D
[06:23] <objorn_> soreau: i don't know what you are talking about
[06:24] <gangil> iceroot: theadmin: I was trying to make some changes to the gdm source , and then I reinstalled it (./configure,make , make install) , but after I reinstalled it  , it halts during boot after showing the ubuntu logo . I am using Ubuntu 9.10
[06:24] <soreau> objorn: Oh well, me neither. But you need to provide some more information about your situation and what you're trying to do if you want to get any help
[06:24] <theadmin> gangil: Can you reach the console and reinstall GDM from repositories?
[06:24] <minderaser> mobius2: I had it on a inspiron m600 - worked like a charm. _Everything_ worked right out of the box
[06:25] <objorn_> if i format it from ext4 to ext3 am i liable to lose my files?
[06:25] <minderaser> mobius2: Try running a live cd first, if that works well there's no reason an install shouldn't go smoothly
[06:25] <iceroot> gangil: apply the ubuntu-patches to the source as well. you find the patch-files in the deb
[06:25] <gangil> theadmin: I can try to do that , but actually I am trying to make changes in source .  WHen I asked on the gdm mailing list , they asked me to look into my distro specific patches
[06:26] <LuciusSir> soreau:  is there a way i can strip alsa and use oss ?
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Filled-Void, Probably not, sound problems in general are usually hard to fix, this was true before pulseaudio and pulse can actually prevent certain problems that you might otherwise have. Try the liveCD, you can even install apps within the live environment to test them if you want.
[06:27] <Filled-Void> Jordan_U, Im guessing if the live cd works then likely the install will too ?
[06:27] <soreau> LuciusSir: No idea. But that makes me remember that pulseaudio can be problematic too, though not sure if it could cause this kind of issue
[06:27] <Filled-Void> and thanks for the help :)
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Filled-Void, Yes
[06:28] <LuciusSir> soreau:  is pulseaudio necessary ?
[06:28] <gangil> iceroot: I am googling it , but am unable to find it , can you provide me with the link .:)
[06:28] <Acoustyk> LuciusSir: There are other options.
[06:28] <soreau> LuciusSir: No.
[06:28] <soreau> ! pulseaudio
[06:29] <Teedev> if i want to set keyboard layout to chinese language how do i that
[06:30] <linux_inferno> hey
[06:31] <minderaser> Teedev: Applications -> System -> Preferences ->  Keyboard
[06:32] <Teedev> minderaser,  i set to chinese but iot show eng language
[06:32] <Teedev> minderaser,  i set to chinese but it show eng language
[06:32] <mobius2> can someone explain IF it's possible to set a "null" item in the displays settings in Compiz ( without xorg.conf) for the purpose of better controlling games which like to start in fullscreen reso?
[06:32] <indus> Teedev, first, go to system>administration >language support and add chinese
[06:33] <LuciusSir> Acoustyk:  ok i am SO  confused, i just tested every driver listed in the multimedia system settings window and they worked... and pulseaudio is listed... and it works... 3 devices.... all worked.... but if i try to use them use them they f up....
[06:33] <mobius2> or how to launch a program from terminal with a resolution argument?
[06:33] <indus> Teedev, after that , right click on desktop panel>add to panel >keyboard indicator
[06:33] <minderaser> Teedev: Sorry, that's the extent of my knowledge - I've never had a need to change the keyboard layout.
[06:33] <indus> Teedev, then select what you want by clicking on that icon
[06:33] <hyperstream> is it possible to hookup the xbox to my ubuntu box
[06:33] <LuciusSir> Acoustyk:  and i have no idea where to look to see whats messing up...
[06:33] <hyperstream> !xbox
[06:33] <Jordan_U> Teedev, System > Preferences > Keyboard / ibus is probably a good place to start, you can also ask in #ubuntu-cn ( if you can manage to type in chinese to ask there :)
[06:33] <rn777> hellp
[06:33] <rn777> hello*
[06:34] <rn777> Does the newest version of Ubuntu use bash?
[06:34] <hyperstream> how would i go about hooking up a XBOX360 to my pc running ubuntu karmic 9.10 ... via LAN.
[06:34] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, you can only launch with specific resolution if the app/game supports it try running "$command --help" and see if there is a resolution switch you can set.  good luck
[06:34] <soreau> mobius2: If you have Detect Outputs enabled, the output strings are ignored. Is there a specific problem you are having with fullscreen games?
[06:34] <rn777> I have a Unix class and we need to do our work in Bash
[06:34] <Jordan_U> rn777, All versions of Ubuntu have used bash as the default shell.
[06:34] <rn777> Thank you. Helps alot
[06:35] <Jordan_U> rn777, np
[06:35] <Acoustyk> LuciusSir: A lot of the time using more than one sound device/program causes the sound card to fail
[06:35] <magnetron> rn777: /bin/sh is dash. /bin/bash is bash
[06:35] <binMonkey> if i remove virtualbox from my system will the hard drives i made with it be immediately available again?
[06:35] <mobius2> ZyloticK9 THANKS man  and soreau,  my specific problem is that on the open source game ( Astro Menace ) like to start maximized to "full screen on " and of course since I just got my coveted dual heads  working independantly it's causing all kinds of weirdness
[06:35] <Teedev> Oh! thank i will set it
[06:35] <rn777> Thanks. I'll remember that if I need it later
[06:36] <mneptok> binMonkey: remove, no. purge, probably.
[06:36] <LuciusSir> Acoustyk:  so how do i limit access ?
[06:36] <mobius2> soreau, i want it to start in  a smaller  reso like on  ONE screen
[06:36] <soreau> mobius2: What do you mean 'working independently' and what kind of weirdness?
[06:36] <Acoustyk> LuciusSir: Ubuntu is notorious for having issues with sound, namely that the card is monopolized (fought for) by many different apps/devices
[06:37] <binMonkey> mneptok: i always 'remove --purge'.  how can i check?
[06:37] <d9500> binMonkey, if it doesn't remove the virtual hard drives when you remove the file, then just rm -r ~?.Virtualbox (warning: this will remove ALL virtual hard disks and vbox configuration files)
[06:37] <indus> Acoustyk, says who
[06:37] <mobius2> soreau, please forgive my convoluted questions,  I really need to know how to make a game called "Astro Menace" start up  in a less-than-fullscreen mode
[06:37] <d9500> that should say rm -r ~/.Virtualbox. sorry
[06:37] <soreau> mobius2: So, I'm guessing it starts across both of your screens?
[06:37] <LuciusSir> Acoustyk:  so what you're saying is i got to live with it ?
[06:37] <binMonkey> d9500: and the formatting that vbox did won't matter?
[06:37] <mobius2> soreau, PRECISELY
[06:38] <mneptok> binMonkey: those are files. not physical devices.
[06:38] <Acoustyk> indus: Volumes of forum posts
[06:38] <soreau> mobius2: Q: Does this work as you would expect, without compiz enabled?
[06:38] <d9500> It's never caused any problems on any distro that I've ran virtualbox on. And I routinely remove old virtual hard disks even while vbox is installed
[06:38] <Acoustyk> LuciusSir: No there are options
[06:38] <indus> Acoustyk, most of them are minor config issues
[06:38] <binMonkey> mneptok: i kind of thought so, but i wasn't sure.  thanks a lot for the help!!!!!
[06:38] <indus> but hmm
[06:39] <Acoustyk> LuciusSir: You may need to try configurations other than pulseaudio
[06:39] <mobius2> soreau,  it works fine in  single  monitor
[06:39] <soreau> mobius2: That doesn't answer the question
[06:39] <Acoustyk> indus: but quite a few aren't
[06:39] <mobius2> ohh sorry  yes   it works fine without compiz
[06:39] <LuciusSir> Acoustyk:  what is something other than pulseaudio, and wtf is pulseaudio ? i thought the kernel module is what backended the device....
[06:39] <indus> Acoustyk, yes, anyways  what is LuciusSir issue
[06:40] <Acoustyk> indus: I'll admit that I have had very limited issues with Karmic tho
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, really?  i wouldn't expect compiz to make any difference... hummm
[06:40] <indus> !pulse | LuciusSir
[06:40] <soreau> mobius2: That is strange, because compiz shouldn't make a difference with regards to this
[06:40] <indus> LuciusSir, well, pulse gives the applications access to sound instead of apps directly accessing hardware
[06:40] <LuciusSir> indus:  ahhhhhhhhhhhh it does multiplexing ?
[06:40] <mobius2> Zykotic9  yes it works in  compiz,  the game will run  whether compiz is enabled or not,  however if the  dual  (  non mirrored )  output is enabled,  then the  game starts  up stretched up across both screns
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> !tab > mobius2
[06:41] <indus> LuciusSir, hence, for the first time ever on ubuntu since 8.04, you could run a game and a music player with sound from both sources playing simultaneously
[06:41] <LuciusSir> indus: so whats an alternative example ?
[06:41] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, i'm actually downloading it as we speak
[06:42] <indus> LuciusSir, before that, apps needed exclusive access to hardware, and yes it does multitasking
[06:42] <indus> LuciusSir, the pulseaudio wiki is a good place to start for you
[06:42] <mobius2> ZykoticK9, I think you  wil find it's a nice game and worth  the effort
[06:42] <indus> LuciusSir, what are you looking for exactly?
[06:42] <LuciusSir> indus:  something that doesn't screw up my audio LOL
[06:42] <mobius2> lol  for lack of a better word
[06:42] <dandaman> what's a program that will allow me to play a sound from one speaker at a time? i have a feeling my rear speakers might be a little lower than my fronts
[06:42] <LuciusSir> indus:  so an alternative to pulseaudio that makes my apps work
[06:42] <indus> LuciusSir, alsa
[06:42] <soreau> mobius2: What we are trying to get you to see, is that this is not an issue with compiz, but rather, the way the driver and X represents your workspace, and that the game makes assumptions based on this information
[06:43] <mobius2> soreau,  I am aware of this fact
[06:43] <indus> LuciusSir, dont you have audio on your system? what version of ubuntu are you using
[06:43] <soreau> mobius2: So why are you targeting compiz output settings?
[06:43] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, i still think that creating an xorg and adding a NULL option is your best bet
[06:43] <Acoustyk> LuciusSir: Mez recommended that I use JACK earlier.  I'm having a similar problem.  I've never used it though.
[06:43] <jack5463> mezquitale, I deleted swfdec flash player and installed adobe and now flash works.
[06:44] <mobius2> Zykotic9, I am not familiar or  nearly adept enough  to work  with xorg.conf manually\
[06:44] <LuciusSir> indus:  I have audio, but it dies randomly and comes back just as randomly
[06:44] <ZykoticK9> !tab > mobius2
[06:44] <indus> LuciusSir, what is the hardware you have, what version ubuntu etc
[06:44] <dandaman> what's a program that will allow me to play a sound from one speaker at a time? i have a feeling my rear speakers might be a little lower than my fronts. like in windows 7 you can open up the audio settings and click on a speaker and itll play a sound from that speaker
[06:44] <almoxarife> I want to associate mms:// with gnome-mplayer so that perhaps google-chrome will see the association, any help? gnome desktop btw
[06:44] <soreau> mobius2: You could write a script, that uses xrandr to clone outputs before starting the game, and expand them into dual head config after the game is finished running, assuming you use graphics drivers that have xrandr support
[06:45] <indus> dandaman, easy , do it from alsamixer
[06:45] <indus> dandaman, alsamixer-gui
[06:45] <mobius2> soreau, I am not so much "targeting" the compiz settings,   I am simply trying to  launch  the GAME in  a less-than-fullscreen output resolution, in an attempt to  have the game display in a windowed  panel
[06:45] <dandaman> kk
[06:45] <LuciusSir> indus: newest version of kubuntu, and intel ac'97
[06:45] <soreau> mobius2: That is the wrong way to think about it
[06:45] <indus> dandaman, or use the audio properties panel , easy
[06:46] <dandaman> indus: dont think there is that option in the audio props
[06:46] <mobius2> soreau,  I think i understand....
[06:46] <indus> LuciusSir, i mean, laptop/desktop? which motherboard
[06:46] <indus> dandaman, in output its there
[06:46] <indus> dandaman, select 5 channel or something
[06:46] <dandaman> indus: that can only balance left and right, cant screw with rear and front
[06:46] <mobius2> soreau,  I think I will just disable compiz effects when I want to play this game :P
[06:46] <soreau> mobius2: I believe all graphics drivers capable of running compiz have xrandr support, except nvidia
[06:46] <dandaman> indus: there is no place to choose how many channels
[06:47] <mobius2> it does make thigs  look the way i want them too
[06:47] <indus> dandaman, in hardware first select it properly
[06:47] <indus> dandaman, in hardware see?
[06:47] <rn777> As Im installing Ubuntu on an extra computer can anyone recommend cool uses for a linux machine?
[06:47] <dandaman> sorry indus, do you mean right click the volume setting and hitting volume preferences?
[06:47] <indus> dandaman, ya
[06:47] <rn777> Besides unix homework
[06:48] <mobius2> soreau,  be advised that this game depends on a libAL  which can  be found here   http://packages.debian.org/etch/libopenal0a
[06:48] <dandaman> indus: yeah so i went to hardware
[06:48] <LuciusSir> indus: desktop, and OMFG I'M GONNA SCREAM, I TRY TO REMOVE THE DAMN SOUND DAEMON SO I CAN SELECT AN ALT AND IT PRACTICALLY MARKS EVERYTHING FOR UNINSTALLATION
[06:48] <theadmin> rn777: Running a server, for instance :D I mean, running server soft on windows is a bleh
[06:48] <Acoustyk> theadmin: seconded
[06:48] <indus> dandaman, man, ubuntu sucks, it was there in older version for sound channels
[06:48] <dandaman> indus: nothing to choose how many channels
[06:48] <almoxarife> which is the correct method for associating mms with an app, uri/mms or url/mms ?
[06:48] <iceroot> rn777: youb want something cool on linux? use compiz  with max settings
[06:48] <rn777> Whats compiz?
[06:48] <soreau> mobius2: openAL has little or nothing to do with graphics
[06:48] <dandaman> indus: damn :( got any other idea of what i can do?
[06:48] <soreau> ! compiz | rn777
[06:48] <iceroot> !compiz | nixjr
[06:48] <mobius2> soreau,  you are correct,  however the game will not install without it :p
[06:49] <indus> dandaman, use alsamixer ,
[06:49] <soreau> iceroot: Fail? :)
[06:49] <soreau> mobius2: I do not see where this information is relevant
[06:49] <iceroot> soreau: some kind of...
[06:49] <mobius2> soreau,  just lettin ya know
[06:49] <mezquitale> jack5463, awesome! did you follow the bug report in launchpad?  Now if you have anymore issues with ubuntu tackle them one by one and pretty soon your rig will be up and running without a glitch!
[06:49] <mobius2> soreau,  I thought you were installing the game...
[06:49] <iceroot> rn777: have a look at youtube what compiz and the cube are
[06:49] <rn777> Alright
[06:49] <mobius2> yep... compiz kicks  tail
[06:49] <theadmin> rn777: Well, to be simple, decorations
[06:49] <dandaman> indus: i think there might be something wrong with my driver, i think that it might only be assuming its a 2 channel system
[06:50] <dandaman> its still playing on 4 speakers
[06:50] <indus> dandaman, no i too have this problem
[06:50] <dandaman> but i think the rear is weaker and surround is all the way on
[06:50] <soreau> mobius2: I have no idea what gave you that impression, but if you use nvidia I think you are SOL
[06:50] <dandaman> indus: so no fix :( ?
[06:50] <indus> dandaman, did you try alsamixer, itworks , type in terminal i told you
[06:50] <binMonkey> d9500: and mneptok , thanks for the help.
[06:50] <mobius2> i do not use nvidia
[06:50] <dandaman> indus: yeah im in the alsa mixer gui
[06:50] <mobius2> soreau,  I will pastebin  my GPU  one moment pls
[06:50] <dandaman> indus: i have 4 columns, 2 under master, 2 under capture
[06:50] <indus> dandaman, there you will find everythinh including setting 6 ch
[06:50] <indus> dandaman, scroll to right you will see
[06:51] <soreau> mobius2: Then use a script to use xrandr to enable clone mode before the game starts and restore dual config afterward
[06:51] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, in the game did you try changing the resolution?  mine started on both monitors (as that was the set resolution) but lowering the resolution to a single monitor resolution shut off the 2nd monitor?
[06:51] <dandaman> indus: there is no where to scroll
[06:51] <soreau> mobius2: That is my best suggestion to you
[06:51] <indus> dandaman, help yourself here , just move to right however it provides
[06:51] <rn777> Wow thats pretty cool. So its some programing api for making graphical desktop effects?
[06:52] <indus> use arrow keys
[06:52] <mobius2> Zykotick9 ...after you changed the resolution in the games settings.. HOW did you get back to the MAIN menu of the game to START the game?
[06:52] <dandaman> oh you mean the capture bars
[06:52] <indus> yes
[06:52] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  i think im  getting a "continue" button  cut off or something
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, it automatically went back to the main menu i think - i'll try again
[06:52] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  thankyou
[06:53] <theadmin> rn777: Nah, just a premade desktop effect set, you can choose what you like
[06:53] <dandaman> indus: playing with the capture bars does nothing
[06:53] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  for instance there is a full screen to  OFF setting
[06:53] <theadmin> rn777: System -> Appearance -> Desktop Effects, all there
[06:53] <indus> dandaman, use the arrow keys right and move and you will find it man
[06:53] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  however it just toggles and im stuck staring at that screen!
[06:53] <rn777> Cool, thanks
[06:53] <theadmin> rn777: Err, system -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Desktop effects
[06:54] <indus> dandaman, depending on whether your sound card supports it
[06:54] <dandaman> indus: it supports 4 channel in windows
[06:54] <mobius2>  sudo lshw -C video   out put is  here   http://pastebin.com/m2d255661
[06:54] <indus> dandaman, and here?
[06:54] <dandaman> indus: i don't know, i guess thats my problem
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, there is an apply at the bottom, when i click that it actually quasi-restarts the game (but again, because of my NULL setting in xorg i'm only see 2 resolution - dual monitor & 1280x1024)
[06:54] <indus> dandaman, it should here also
[06:54] <dandaman> indus: how do i get linux drivers for my sound card?
[06:54] <dandaman> it appears as if i don't have them
[06:55] <indus> dandaman, try the alsamixer-gui , install it
[06:55] <indus> dandaman, what sound card?
[06:55] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  where at the bottom  right or left or center?
[06:55] <indus> dandaman, check under the command lspci
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, lol brb
[06:55] <dandaman> indus: i'm in it, its the sound card on my mobo, dont e ven know, k ill check lspci
[06:55] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  thanks so much
[06:56] <dandaman> indus: 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc HD48x0 audio
[06:56] <indus> dandaman, hmm a radeon 4850?
[06:56] <indus> dandaman, dont use that, use the one on the motherboard
[06:56] <dandaman> that's my gfx card
[06:56] <iluminator101> ndiswrapper error bcmwl5 : driver installed
[06:56] <iluminator101> 	device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: wl)
[06:56] <indus> dandaman, yes but it has support for HD audio dont you know?
[06:56] <dandaman> i only have one sound card, the one on my mobo
[06:56] <bullgard> The installation of what program package is likely to have installed the DEB program package 'postfix' on my Karmic computer?  (I did not install the DEB program package 'postfix' directly.)
[06:57] <iluminator101> how do i get rid of alternate driver wl
[06:57] <dandaman> indus: had no idea, regardless i am using the mobo
[06:57] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, when i go into option there is a Main Menu at the bottom, when i click next/previous on the resolution that MM button at bottom splits into 2 and the button on the right side is apply (left is main menu) < did that make sense?
[06:57] <dandaman> indus: lemme find it
[06:57] <indus> dandaman, the radeon 4000 series delivers HD audio and can be selected for playback
[06:57] <dandaman> indus: i just thought what i copied down here was my mobo
[06:57] <indus> dandaman, paste the output of lspci
[06:57] <dandaman> indus you are a genius
[06:57] <dandaman> i went into sound preferences
[06:57] <indus> !paste | dandaman
[06:57] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  yep I am going to  try it blindly  and hope I get  lucky...  it worked in  high school  :P
[06:58] <dandaman> and it was on my 4850 device
[06:58] <dandaman> just changed it to internal audio
[06:58] <indus> dandaman, yes , change hardware
[06:58] <iluminator101> how do i blacklist module wl?
[06:58] <indus> dandaman, yes good
[06:58] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, are you actually getting a choice of any different resolution when you click next/previous - or only different color depths?
[06:58] <dandaman> indus: <3
[06:58] <indus> dandaman, now what
[06:58] <andydam> ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER  0
[06:58] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[06:58] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  I was actually just  toggling the  "Full screen"  to the off position
[06:58] <zhuhaifeng> how can i apply target selinux policy in ubuntu
[06:59] <dandaman> now i see how loud my speakers go on linux :P
[06:59] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,   without success
[06:59] <indus> dandaman, btw, if you have an HDMI cable, you can enjoy high quality audio too if connected to a device
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, will now i can type to you and see the game - toggling fullscreen worked for me - it's right under fullscreen that has the resolution choices
[07:00] <indus> dandaman, anyways, now do you hear sound
[07:00] <dandaman> nice
[07:00] <dandaman> yea
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, "window Size" it's labeled
[07:00] <indus> dandaman, all speakers> ? but did you find the channels
[07:00] <dandaman> oh my god klipsch 4.1s you are so loud
[07:00] <dandaman> yeah im on alsa playing with it
[07:00] <indus> enjoy
[07:01] <indus> dandaman, alsamixer u mean
[07:01] <dandaman> yeah
[07:01] <Hexane> ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[07:01] <Hexane> ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[07:01] <dandaman> indus: new problem
[07:01] <indus> dandaman, good
[07:01] <dandaman> wait
[07:01] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  it's working perfectly now thanks SO much
[07:01] <dandaman> nvm
[07:01] <dandaman> false alarm
[07:02] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,  I just needed to know that  proceed button was even there
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> mobius2, well thank you for introducing me to a new game - now to try it ;)  take care man
[07:02] <mobius2> ZykoticK9,   no doubt  im  off to blast aliens
[07:02] <mobius2> see ya guys
[07:02] <seawollf12> can we return a variables value from a script without a function?
[07:03] <seawollf12> ?
[07:03] <seawollf12> anybody
[07:03] <mezquitale> sure, why not? a global variable?
[07:04] <mezquitale> you mean in bash?
[07:05] <iluminator101> hi am trying to install dell 1390 with ndiswrapper i get this error
[07:05] <e-frame> !id > e-frame
[07:06] <seawollf12> mezquitale: i have pasted the code here http://pastebin.com/m2aadf6b4 i want to return the value of test1
[07:06] <seawollf12> instead of echoing i want to get it into a variable
[07:08] <AviZ> ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[07:08] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[07:08] <mezquitale> seawollf12, sorry, im not much of a bash programmer, try logging in to the room at an earlier time and dont get frustrasted by all the off topic warnings, you can also try #ubuntu-offtopic by the way
[07:12] <lahiru> hi
[07:17] <captbaritone> Trying to preserver 355 days of uptime! Ssh is timing out and when I plugged in a monitor and keyboard I get "Login timed out after 60 seconds." Is there any hope for me?
[07:17] <Devrethman> What's the best way to transfer a ton of tiny files from a Mac to ubuntu?
[07:17] <Devrethman> SFTP is not working at all.
[07:17] <zamba> Devrethman: google?
[07:17] <bullgard> The installation of what program package is likely to have installed the DEB program package 'postfix' on my Karmic computer?  (I did not install the DEB program package 'postfix' directly.)
[07:18] <Devrethman> Zamba: -_- What's the point of this channel then.
[07:18] <koshari> my wife just bought a new samsung touch phone, ow do i put ubuntu on it
[07:19] <hyperstream> !medubuntu
[07:19] <hyperstream> !medibuntu
[07:19] <objorn> how can i tell if i'm now usinga 64bit or 32bit system
[07:20] <Flannel> koshari: You probably don't
[07:20] <zamba> what was that all about?
[07:20] <zamba> Flannel: huh?
[07:20] <Flannel> zamba: When helping, be helpful.  Don't be rude.  "Google" is not help.
[07:21] <zamba> Flannel: i was actually serious.. you can use google docs to upload files and then download them on a separate computer
[07:21] <zamba> but yeah, i see how that can be misinterpreted :)
[07:21] <zamba> so sorry about that
[07:22] <Flannel> zamba: Use complete sentences next time :)  But, NFS would've worked better for him anyway.
[07:22] <hyperstream> When i use the LIVECD it shows i have Restricted drivers i can install(Nvidia ones), i just installed from live cd and it isnt popping  up and telling me about it
[07:22] <bullgard> zamba: You have frightened Devrethman so that he left this channel.
[07:23] <teddymills> when does thunderbird3 get in the ubuntu repos?
[07:23] <hyperstream> I need to install the restricted drivers
[07:23] <hyperstream> !restricted
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> hyperstream, verify that you have done all available updates
[07:23] <bullgard> teddymills: I believe Ubuntu 10.04 will include Thunderbird 3.
[07:23] <hyperstream> ZykoticK9, i just did 90 megs of updates then restarted, with no new updates- i then remembered about enabling the software sources, and now it has more updates- should i do these then see if pops up?
[07:24] <bullgard> s /include/provide/
[07:24] <ZykoticK9> hyperstream, you have check in System / Admin / Hardware Drivers right (perhaps it's not going to just Popup)
[07:24] <Flannel> bullgard, teddymills: Looks like you might have to wait for 10.10, actually.  Lucid currently has 10.04
[07:25] <hyperstream> ZykoticK9, says there are none,
[07:25] <EagleWatch> hi all
[07:25] <hyperstream> ZykoticK9, the live cd has the right restricted drivers for the geforce4
[07:25] <ZykoticK9> hyperstream, i'd try installing the new update then..
[07:25] <mneptok> !google | zamba
[07:25] <teddymills> Win32-Thunderbird>Help>Check for updates...updates to T3...
[07:26] <EagleWatch> a kernel update from 31-17 -> 31.19 error. (Segmentation fault). any help?
[07:26] <mneptok> zamba: sorry, i now see Flannel already told you about not telling people to google
[07:26] <hyperstream> ZykoticK9, thanks mate
[07:27] <gdb> Why would you use NFS to move files from a Mac to an Ubuntu machine?
[07:27] <EagleWatch> kernel update error cand you help me
[07:27] <gdb> Use something that requires zero setup - scp
[07:27] <Gryphon9> Any one know to get a 5th generation ipod to work on ubuntu/Rhythmbox
[07:27] <rww> objorn: type "uname -a" in a terminal. If it says i686, it's 32-bit. If it says x86_64, it's 64-bit
[07:28] <chris8> Hey room -- can anyone recommend a room for linux based sound engineering?  I couldn't find one :S
[07:28] <rww> objorn: (it'll say a bunch of other things too; look near the end of the line)
[07:28] <indus> chris8, #alsa?
[07:29] <chris8> Gryphon9: check out gtkpod program... pretty cool, autosync etc, but not too sure about 5th gen compatibity... there's a chart on a website somewhere :P
[07:29] <user1> i am able to import pdf to oo draw using sun pdf import plugin but the layout is stripping the width a bit.
[07:29] <bullgard> The installation of what program package is likely to have installed the DEB program package 'postfix' on my Karmic computer?  (I did not install the DEB program package 'postfix' directly.)
[07:29] <EagleWatch> I try to upgrade my kernel and I got a (Segmentation fault) error?
[07:30] <indus> user1, isnt that plugin beta
[07:30] <chris8> Indus: thanks!  running Jack instead of alsa, but they may help me :P thanks buddy
[07:30] <user1> indus: no . http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/pdfimport
[07:30] <multiverse72> hi guys, I'm having some hd problems, but I'm not entirely sure if it's dying. symptoms include: some folders take forever to open, random freeze ups, and some errors in dmesg. (give me a moment to write them down)
[07:30] <Gryphon9> its registering on rhythmbox but not leting me put music on!
[07:31] <indus> bullgard, postfix itself
[07:31] <indus> bullgard, accidental perhaps
[07:32] <kayve> are these instructions going to work for me? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLABhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[07:32] <bullgard> EagleWatch:  Do first: System > Administration > Update Manager > Check
[07:32] <optimus_t> anyone expert in socket programming?
[07:32] <EagleWatch> bullgard, only the linux-kernel-image appear
[07:33] <bullgard> indus: No. There was no 'accident'.
[07:33] <Gryphon9> chris8:This program is it like rhythmbox?
[07:33] <chris8> uh
[07:33] <kayve> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/372281/http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/372281/
[07:33] <indus> bullgard, mutt probably then , not sure
[07:33] <Monona> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 8.04.4 Desktop as a dual boot with Windows XP.  The install has been hung at "Please wait... Resizing partition..." for at least 10 minutes.  I know the disc is fine, since I ran an md5sum check on it.  What should I do?  Is there a way to kickstart the install without hard powering off the computer?
[07:33] <mneptok> Gryphon9: did you reformat the iPod?
[07:33] <rww> bullgard: Is the output of "aptitude why postfix" useful?
[07:34] <EagleWatch> bullgard, I hit install and (Segmentation fault). same error in terminal
[07:34] <indus> bullgard, no ignore that
[07:34] <chris8> Gryph: yeah it's got a comparable GUI
[07:34] <root_> yzc509
[07:34] <bullgard> EagleWatch:  I do not understand your answer. And what do you expect to appear?
[07:34] <indus> Monona, keep trying again
[07:34] <indus> Monona, check for errors when this happens,
[07:34] <multiverse72> here's a snip of the errors http://pastebin.com/m55b4c7f4
[07:35] <Gryphon9> mneptok: i found out its already Windows.
[07:35] <chris8> Gryph: not too sure if you can play music from there, but it'll definitely access an unmodified ipod
[07:35] <indus> Monona, or try another cd what else
[07:35] <Monona> indus, should I just hard power off and try again, then?  Maybe recheck the disc?
[07:35] <rww> Monona: resizing NTFS partitions sometimes takes several hours. I'd recommend not interrupting it.
[07:35] <mneptok> Gryphon9: yesterday you said it was 4th generation. today it's 5th?
[07:35] <chris8> Gryph: it's a pretty handy app
[07:35] <multiverse72> and I also have some I/O errors and >10 badblocks ... dying hd or not?
[07:36] <chris8> Gryph: It works great for my 3rd gen...
[07:36] <chris8> or is it a 5th, i ferget
[07:36] <Monona> rww: How can I know that it's resizing?  The disc is 300GB but the resizing has been stuck at 0%
[07:36] <rww> Monona: I don't know, I haven't resized from the installer before, just from gparted directly.
[07:37] <Gryphon9> I thourght it was and i then cheaked it up its 5th Gen
[07:37] <chris8> Everyboooby: Anyone know anything aboot sound engineering?  I'm looking for a dynamic LAPSDA fliter or gate with a cut-off frequency i can modulate with an auxillary input
[07:38] <iguanna> 'morning
[07:38] <bullgard> rww: '~$ aptitude why postfix; i   ubuntu-dev-tools Depends    devscripts; i A devscripts       Recommends bsd-mailx | mailx | mailutils; i A bsd-mailx        Depends    postfix | mail-transport-agent'.  I cannot interpret this output: I need to learn about 'aptitude why foo'.
[07:39] <chris8> LAPSDA filter with a modular cut-off frequency?  or a modular wet/dry
[07:39] <iguanna> how can i mount a stick usb  in ubuntu by console?
[07:39] <rww> bullgard: You installed the package ubuntu-dev-tools. ubuntu-dev-tools installed devscripts. devscripts recommends one of bsd-mailx, mailx, or mailutils, and installed bsd-mailx. bsd-mailx depends on postfix or mail-transport-agent, and installed postfix.
[07:40] <Monona> Woops, there it goes.
[07:40] <iguanna> I am doing: mount -t type /dev/sdc /mnt but my problem is I don't know what type it is!
[07:40] <Monona> Guess I was just impatient.
[07:40] <multiverse72> any help?
[07:40] <iguanna> are there any way to find it out?
[07:40] <rww> bullgard: Since bsd-mailx is only recommended, not required, you can remove it and postfix if you'd like.
[07:41] <rww> bullgard: let me know if you'd like me to rephrase that; I know it's complicated
[07:41] <multiverse72> guys?
[07:41] <bullgard> rww: Thank you very much for ewxplaining and your thorough help.
[07:41] <seawollf12> how can we return a variables value from a script without a function?
[07:41] <cdoublejj> this is odd i get a white screen when i try to run zsnes from start menu tried complete uninstall then sudo nautilus deleted all zsnes files still does when i try to run fro start menu i think i have to reformat
[07:41] <mneptok> bullgard: what makes you nervous about having Postfix installed?
[07:41] <rww> bullgard: you're welcome. I'm glad to help :)
[07:41] <mneptok> bullgard: the default configuration only accepts from localhost, and does not listen for external connections.
[07:42] <seawollf12> anybody please
[07:42] <Gryphon7> mnetpok: Its 5th Generation.16GB with Camera.
[07:42] <mneptok> bullgard: it's necessary to do things like pipe commit e-mails
[07:42] <seawollf12> i have pasted the code here http://pastebin.com/m2aadf6b4 i want to return the value of test1
[07:43] <rww> seawollf12: ask in #bash, perhaps?
[07:43] <chris8> anyone know room for LADSPA dev?  nothing at #ladspa
[07:43] <bullgard> mneptok: I would like to learn more about Ubuntu and use it more intelligently. So I am curious how it came on my computer although I did not install it and do not need a Mail Transfer Agent.
[07:43] <Freelancer> ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[07:43] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[07:43] <Gryphon4> mneptok:Still there?
[07:44] <Greggaz|Laptop> ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[07:45] <cdoublejj> now i'm al ittle pissed but , know not mess with mode 7 in that program
[07:45] <cdoublejj> but, i know it is ubuntus fault for some reason not the prog cause i obliterated it from the hdd
[07:45] <mneptok> Gryphon4: yes, why?
[07:46] <cdoublejj> oh well i know what updates progs and extension to get
[07:46] <Gryphon4> Any idea on the 5th?
[07:46] <cdoublejj> still a pain in the but to reformat right after a fresh install
[07:46] <mneptok> Gryphon4: no. i do not use or recommend Apple products.
[07:46] <EntityReborn> G'NIGHT!
[07:46] <iguanna> I am using server ubuntu version, could you tell me how to mount a usb-stick by command-line please?
[07:47] <iguanna> my problem is I don't know what type of file system is the usb-stick
[07:47]  * KindOne ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 0 0 0
[07:47] <iguanna> it is something like: mount -t ? /dev/sdc /mnt
[07:47] <pkm4o93> iguanna: I 'sudo fdisk -l' to list drives. I identify drive and make a folder in /media/newdrive. then I 'mount /dev/drive to be mounted /media/newdrive
[07:47] <Gryphon4> Ok mneptok: what about my processer constantly at 100%
[07:48] <iguanna> thanks mate
[07:48] <Gryphon4> Its not Apple.
[07:49] <pkm4o93> iguanna: no problem its confusing at first but if you identify correct drive its easy.
[07:49] <indus> Monona, yes i have seen it taking 5 min sometimes
[07:49] <indus> Monona, so its working now, thats good
[07:49] <q0k> Hi. How do I create a partition in Windows XP? I currently have only one partition with lots of free space, and want to separate it into 2 equal partitions - onw for XP , one for Ubuntu. Where is partition magager in Windows XP?
[07:49] <bullgard> luchs_: [gelöst] Ich habe installiert ubuntu-dev-tools. ubuntu-dev-tools installierte devscripts. devscripts "empfiehlt" eins aus der Menge (bsd-mailx, mailx, mailutils) und installierte bsd-mailx. bsd-mailx hängt ab von postfix oder mail-transport-agent,  und installierte postfix.
[07:49] <pkm4o93> iguanna: the next issue is PERMISSIONS on that usb drive.
[07:49] <obiwan_> guys, why does ubuntu have both cron and anacron? some kind of posix compliant reuqirement?
[07:49] <Flannel> !de | bullgard
[07:49] <mneptok> Gryphon4: install htop and see what using the CPU cycles.
[07:49] <pkm4o93> q0k: Normally I use GPARTED frome a LIVECD such as PUPPYLINUX
[07:50] <q0k> pkm4o93, iIsn't there there a partition manager in windows xp?
[07:51] <mint_> Is there a way to runa  command that searches for and reconfigures my audio devices
[07:51] <Gryphon4> I have every thin is ok, is firefox ment to use 60%??????
[07:51] <indus> Gryphon4, yes it does
[07:52] <LavaEagle> q0k: Right click computer, click manage
[07:52] <indus> Gryphon4, switch to chrome i say
[07:52] <LavaEagle> click drives at the bottom
[07:52] <q0k> LavaEagle : yes
[07:53] <Gryphon4> What about Madori?
[07:53] <indus> !midori
[07:53] <indus> yes i hear its nice too
[07:53] <iguanna> pkm4o93, my next issue is how to copy several link-files to other folder
[07:53] <Gryphon4> So that will work too?
[07:54] <mint_> !madori
[07:54] <pkm4o93> iguanna: have you mounted the drive? you willl probably need to seach for CHMOD
[07:54] <iguanna> pkm4o93, I did it just using cp command but these link-files were not copied correctly
[07:54] <pkm4o93> iguanna: was there an error result
[07:55] <iguanna> pkm4o93, I mounted the drive. But about my other issue you know how to solve it?
[07:56] <pkm4o93> iguanna: I think you will need to chmod 777. But I am new to permissions in linux you may need to research.
[07:58] <iguanna> I am trying to set up eclipse. Eclipse need to know where some files of tomcat are installed, thats is my problem, I have to copy amount of link-files inside a directory to other directory
[07:58] <Gryphon4> How do i download Ubuntu Restricted Extras pakage through the Terminal into my Downloads?
[07:59] <indus> Gryphon4, you mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:59] <mint_> !eclipse
[07:59] <mint_> Ignatius: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE
[08:00] <pkm4o93> iguanna: perhaps it may be easier if you install a gui such as sudo apt-get xorg fluxbox rox-filer ? is a GUI possible?
[08:00] <Gryphon4> Ya but where dose it download to indus?
[08:00] <mint_> Gryphon4: sudo aot-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras its in google i found that command when i wanted to do it
[08:00] <indus> Gryphon4, hmm to /apt/cache/archives
[08:00] <rainy-day> why is it that I do 'chown -R username *' as root but after ls -l dirs still show up as being owned by root?
[08:01] <mint_> Gryphon4: sorry sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:01] <indus> Gryphon4, sorry /var/apt/cache/archives
[08:01] <indus> Gryphon4, sorry /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:01] <indus> :)
[08:02] <mint_> ind his lkast one is corect
[08:02] <alfatau> hello, i'm a new ubuntu 9.10 user. i installed ubuntu and now grub2 finds 2 vista partitions while only one is really a bootable vista os while the other is the hp recovery partition. is there a way to remove that recovery partition from grub boot list and to rename other entries? thank you very much for your attention
[08:02] <Gryphon4> indus are you sure?!**
[08:02] <indus> yesss !
[08:02] <mint_> Gryphon4: ^ indus last is corect
[08:02] <gavin__> yes there is a way alfatau
[08:02] <mint_> Gryphon4: y wanting to know that
[08:03] <gavin__> i dont know how though.
[08:03] <gavin__> im sure you could find it on google easily.
[08:03] <gavin__> let me look for you
[08:03] <bullgard> EagleWatch: If the segmentation fault error appeared only recently, reboot your computer. It the segmentation fault re-appears, analyze /var/log/dmesg. If you are not knowledgeable enough to find a pointer to your problem there, post the exact segmentation fault  error message together with /var/log/dmesg in a forum.
[08:03] <mint_> alfatau: google how to edit grub 2 boot rechord
[08:04] <gavin__> alfatau: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1514934
[08:04] <Gryphon4> Do i just put that? or some thing before it? /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:04] <maasha> hiyas,  have a vanilla postfix install on an ubuntu box and was wondering what the name of the local smtp server might be?
[08:04] <Diverdude> Hello. I found this font: http://www.december14.net/fonts.shtml (Bitstream Vera sans mono) Which i want to use. But I don't know the proper place to put the font-files in my system. Where should i put them, so that all editor programs have access to them, or where do font files reside on linux?
[08:04] <Monona> indus, rww: Installed just fine, dual boot and all. :)
[08:04] <rww> Monona: awesome :)
[08:05] <nitemovz> Hi all
[08:05] <Flannel> Diverdude: Pretty sure bitstream sans mono is already installed
[08:05] <nitemovz> I am using Transmission BitTorrent client, and I am trying to find out how to set it up to work through a Proxy
[08:05] <xro> hi... i chenged my laptop and i have to install my mail account... i had pgp (thunderbird with enigmail) on my old laptop... how can i transfert the private key?
[08:06] <Diverdude> Flannel, well, in my emacs it says unrecognized font when i try to load it
[08:06] <nitemovz> I have an HTTP proxy that I have setup on a server, but I am curious as to getting Transmission to run through that
[08:06] <Flannel> !fonts | Diverdude
[08:06] <Gryphon4> mint_: is that what i put?? /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:07] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: if you are trying to copy deb files to your apt cache to save downloading them? then yes
[08:08] <meway> How do I remove all extentions that end with .example ?
[08:08] <meway> all in one folder
[08:08] <k4rt33k> any lyrics software for mplayer in the command line?
[08:08] <hakonaj> meway: rm myfolder/*.example
[08:08] <Gryphon4> pkm4o93 i dont get i what about ubuntu resricted extras???????
[08:09] <unop> meway,  remove the extensions or remove the files?
[08:09] <meway> so what does that do hakonaj?
[08:09] <meway> I want to just remove the extensions not the files
[08:10] <alfatau> gavin__: the link you gave me is unuseful because ubuntu9.10 uses grub2. mint_: thank you, i found a tutorial, even if it doesnt't seem so simple... thank you all. regards
[08:10] <unop> meway,  rename -n 's/\.example//' *.example   # remove the -n if you're happy and that'll do the actual rename
[08:10] <hakonaj> meway: Sorry. Was a bit quick there.
[08:10] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: I just saw your original question now. You are attempting to download restricted-extras but NOT install it/
[08:10] <mint_> Gryphon4: in terminal you type cd /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:10] <unop> meway, to be a little more correct.     rename -n 's/\.example$//' *.example
[08:10] <zcat[1]> meway:  man rename
[08:10] <mint_> Gryphon4: is that what you need to do
[08:11] <meway> ...
[08:11] <meway> ok i hope it works out
[08:11] <meway> :)
[08:11] <meway> that is one messed up command XD
[08:11] <Gryphon4> pkm4o93 Yes....
[08:11] <Jordan_U> alfatau, Copy the windows entry you want to keep from /boot/grub/grub.cfg into /etc/grub.d/40_custom then "sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30-os-prober"
[08:11] <Dravekx> how do i install a perl client onto ubuntu?
[08:11] <unop> meway,  that's because it's actually perl.
[08:12] <unop> Dravekx, perl client?
[08:12] <Dravekx> unop, yes. I want to install everydns on my server
[08:12] <Flannel> Diverdude: sudo apt-get install perl
[08:12] <unop> Dravekx, perl is already installed
[08:12] <Flannel> blah.  Dravekx ^^
[08:12] <Dravekx> its a perl client that needs to run.
[08:12] <Flannel> Sorry Diverdude
[08:12] <meway> unop oh I see now
[08:12] <Dravekx> I dont know how to install it
[08:13] <Dravekx> :
[08:13] <Gryphon4> mint_: i need to download ubuntu restricted extras but not instal it.
[08:13] <Flannel> Dravekx: sudo apt-get install perl
[08:13] <unop> Dravekx, are you asking how to install perl or how to install everydns?
[08:13] <Dravekx> unop, everydns. they have a perl client but it doesnt say how to install it, it just comes up as a text file.
[08:14] <unop> Dravekx, maybe the text file is the perl script itself?  do you recognize the file as a perl script?
[08:14] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras ??
[08:15] <Dravekx> unop, yes. perl is installed, but how do I put the script on ubuntu to run it?
[08:15] <k4rt33k> Dravekx: perl path/to/script
[08:15] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: "man aptitude" reveals the command line switches.
[08:15] <k4rt33k> u should chmod +x /path/to/script first
[08:15] <alfatau> Jordan_U: really thanks. this is the simple approach i was looking for. thank you very much.
[08:16] <Dravekx> k4rt33k, where to put the script?
[08:16] <unop> Dravekx,  if the file is a perl script. (if?) -- put it in /usr/local/bin  and then   chmod +x /usr/local/bin/everydns   # then you just call it using the   everydns  command
[08:16] <Jordan_U> alfatau, np
[08:16] <aiwa> hey i installed amarok and it won't play any song. when i start it, it says "The audio playback device HDA Intel (STAC92xx analog) does not work. Falling back to PulseAudio" does anyone know how to fix that?
[08:16] <k4rt33k> Dravekx: put it in /usr/local/bin
[08:16] <Dravekx> k
[08:17] <mint_> Gryphon4: a strange request y is that
[08:17] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: you have IM
[08:17] <Gryphon4> pkm4o93 i dont need to install it i already have it, i want to download the package and put it on a flash and install it when there is no internet.
[08:17] <maasha> what is the most simple mail client on ubuntu for testing if smtp is up and running?
[08:17] <pkm4o93> aiwa: does any sound at all work ????
[08:18] <meway> ok ty bye bye now :)
[08:18] <aiwa> pkm4o93: when i play the mp3 from the rhythmbox it works fine
[08:19] <Gryphon4> mint_ i live in Zim most times there is no net. so when i reinstall my computer i dont have to wait for internet
[08:19] <pkm4o93> aiwa: I dont have expertise in linux audio. I would get many audio programs and compare what works,what does. I use VLC alot also.
[08:19] <mint_> Gryphon4: maby this is for you then
[08:20] <dman777> what is the kcmshell command used for?
[08:20] <Gryphon4> What?
[08:20] <mint_> dman777: asking here is good but did you google it first
[08:20] <junkY_San> hey, does anyone know a text editor with highlighting support which an print ALL opened files at once?
[08:21] <dman777> mint_: ya, all i get is bug reports for the most part
[08:21] <tessarakt> don't kill so many trees ...
[08:21] <unop> dman777, kcmshell. KCMShell is a small utility to host KDE control modules independently of SystemSettings.   from  api.kde.net
[08:21] <iceroot> dman777: man kcmshell
[08:21] <dman777> my lpi book saids kcmshell4 kdm is a tool that can be used to configure the GDM login screen. That doesn't sound correct to me. Is this true or is the book wrong? I rather keep my system clean and not install gdm or kde/kdm to find out.
[08:21] <Gryphon4> mint_: what do you mean its for me??????????
[08:22] <mint_> dman777: ask in #kubuntu its a kubuntu command did you know
[08:22] <unop> dman777, the book is correct only if KDE and Gnome are both actually installed at the same time - which is questionable
[08:22] <unop> mint_, no need for sarcasm eh
[08:23] <dman777> unop: thank you
[08:23] <mint_> dman777: i just googled adn goit this in 2 secs http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdebase-runtime-apidocs/kcmshell/html/index.html
[08:24] <Duskin> how do i update my ati drivers?
[08:25] <infid> if a file is owned by www-data and my user (infid) doesn't have permissions to write to the file, and i use sudo to open/write to the file, it maintains www-data as the owner right? so sudo doesn't change permissions it just lets you edit the file not only as root, but also as other users automatically?
[08:25] <infid> ie i dont have to 'sudo -u <other user> vim file.txt' i can just 'sudo vim file.txt' and it does the same thing?
[08:25] <mint_> dman777: hope that helps you
[08:25] <Gryphon4> MINT_!!!!!! what comand should i use?
[08:25] <mint_> Gryphon4: comand to what
[08:26] <DubAndy> im playing around with a few custom win32 apps for wine. Although wincfg doesnt seem to be able to find directories and subdirectories ive moved to ~/.wine using the mv command. Anybody who knows why?
[08:26] <dman777> mint_: google is your friend not mine
[08:26] <Gryphon4> to download ubuntu restricted extras through terminal but no install?
[08:27] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: did you read my message to you before I showed you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:28] <Gryphon4> Ya whats IM? pkm4o93
[08:28] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: IM = Instant Message
[08:28] <Gryphon4> Ya and ???????
[08:29] <Gryphon4> What do i do?
[08:30] <Gryphon4> What is im?
[08:30] <aiwa>  internet messager
[08:30] <EagleWatch> bullgard, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m5f31aca3
[08:31] <Zatcharius> How does someone make it to an irc and not know that?
[08:31] <EagleWatch> Gryphon4, Instant Messenger
[08:31] <Jordan_U> infid, sudo by default runs the command you give it as root, vim will usually keep the file owner the same but that has nothing to do with sudo
[08:32] <mint_> sorry Gryphon4 try this it may be what you need http://www.mininova.org/tor/2540622
[08:32] <kahen> how do you change fonts (and colours. it's a bit too blue) in Qt applications such as texmaker? they seem horribly out of place after i changed the font in gnome to dejavu condensed
[08:32] <Duskin> is there a command to determine what video card i have?
[08:32] <mint_> Gryphon4: im = instant messenger
[08:33] <ZykoticK9> Duskin, "lspci | grep -i vga"
[08:33] <Gryphon4> pkm4o93: Thanks for the help.
[08:33] <Duskin> thanks
[08:34] <mint_> dman777: its what you ask google that counts starting with the basicks like the program name.
[08:35] <mint_> Gryphon4: no problem hopefully that will be what you need
[08:36] <mlosev> full
[08:36] <dman777> mint_: ya, the the page 90% bug reports and the rest links to questions in forums.
[08:36] <Gryphon4> mint_: forgive my stupidity but i still want to know the comand for downloading ubuntu restricted extras but not to instal it?
[08:37] <nitemovz> If anyone has used Transmission BitTorrent Client with PHProxy, I need help
[08:38] <mand> hi
[08:38] <mand> how can i make "convert" force a certain size to images, no matter what the size ratio is?
[08:38] <mint_> Gryphon4: other than that link i cant help sorry '
[08:39] <bullgard> EagleWatch: All these messages occur in /lib/ld-2.10.1.so. I do not know the function of /lib/ld-2.10.1.so. Sorry.
[08:39] <k4rt33k_> mand: Use Gimp!
[08:39] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: are you on a computer that isn't connected to the internet, and you want to get restricted extras installed to it?
[08:39] <EagleWatch> thanks anyway bullgard
[08:39] <DJones> !offline | Gryphon4 This might be a help to you in downloading packages for installation on an other machine
[08:40] <mand> k4rt33k_: that's not an option due the big amount of images
[08:40] <mand> k4rt33k_: i need a command line program
[08:40] <Bravewolf> how can I enable 2 finger scroll in ubuntu jaunty?
[08:41] <Gryphon4> djones thanks
[08:41] <k4rt33k_> mand: You can write Gimp scripts or use OpenCV (might be too heavy...but don't know anything else)
[08:41] <Gryphon4> ubottu thanks
[08:41] <Myrtti> mand: there is a command line app for that
[08:41] <mand> k4rt33k_: ah, ok, i've found it out, i just needed to add a ! after the size setting to "force" it
[08:42] <zagabar> Can I connect to more than one server at a time in irssi?
[08:42] <Myrtti> mand: imagemagick
[08:42] <mand> Myrtti: yes, i'm already using "convert", i just didn't know how to force a size to an image
[08:44] <zilkomaa> Can someone point me a good tutorial for compiz-fusion in ubuntu 9.10 64 bit?
[08:45] <iceroot> zagabar: of course  /connect server
[08:46] <iceroot> zagabar: switch the server with ctrl + x
[08:46] <Myrtti> zagabar: I usually configure multiple networks first, /help network, then add servers to the networks, /help server, and then I can just connect saying the name of the network
[08:46] <k4rt33k_> zagabar: Which client are you using now?
[08:47] <Myrtti> zagabar: by default it has several networks configured though, including freenode
[08:47] <Gryphon4> zilkomaa: try Ubuntu Guide.org
[08:47] <k4rt33k_> Myrtti: How to have an identification script in the beginning. I mean I don't wanna send nickserv my password everytime. Is there a way to do it in a script?
[08:48] <Frx> hello,
[08:48] <Myrtti> k4rt33k_: I just use the server password field.
[08:48] <Frx> how can i disable X from starting at boot ?
[08:49] <k4rt33k_> Frx: Choose xlient script / command line in session
[08:49] <BigMack84> which video card is more ubuntu friendly? nvidia or radeon?
[08:49] <iceroot> BigMack84: nvidia
[08:49] <k4rt33k_> and choose which programs u wanna run in xclientscript
[08:49] <BigMack84> thanks
[08:49] <nitemovz> I am trying to figure out how to setup an IRC server for my company that validates user creds against a MySQL database
[08:50] <nitemovz> any help would be appreciated
[08:50] <Frx> k4rt33k_ :  what does that mean in english? :D
[08:50] <Frx> whats the config file that i should edit ?
[08:51] <k4rt33k_> Frx: Before you login you will need to choose a session (assuming u have a gdm login)
[08:51] <aaron> hey i have a question what's the apache mode call for php so they can view php script on you'te server?
[08:51] <k4rt33k_> Frx: Choose command line option instead of GNOME/KDE
[08:51] <Frx> k4rt33k_ : no i mean automaticly.
[08:51] <Frx> i need to access this via ssh only
[08:52] <aaron> hey i have a question what's the apache mode call for php so they can view php script on you'te server?
[08:52] <Frx> found the answer here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-linux-disable-x-windows-kde-during-system-boot/
[08:52] <Frx> cheers!
[08:53] <maasha> can anyone assist me testing the smtp server I hopefully have up and running on this ubuntu box. nmap tells me this -> 25/tcp   open  smtp
[08:53] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: Orion IRC Services supports mysql Nickserv authentication
[08:53] <om26er> can any one please test if going to hidden in empathy using only yahoo works
[08:54] <nitemovz> FireCrotch: this will allow me to validate creds that are already in the MySQL database?
[08:54] <maasha> what is the simplest text based mail client ala pine?
[08:55]  * om26er waits
[08:56] <aaron> hey i have a question what's the apache mode call for php so they can view php script on you'te server?
[08:56] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: I've never actually used it, and from what I know, it's alpha quality. it's based on Anope IRC services, so you'll probably have to modify things a bit
[08:57] <jantor> maasha did you try a telnet test to the smtp server?
[08:57] <nitemovz> okay, thanks!
[08:58] <maasha> jantor: so telnet localhost 25 ? It connects, and then what?
[08:58] <jantor> quit will exit
[08:58] <nitemovz> Is there anyway to do networked user names with roaming profiles on linux?
[08:58] <maasha> jantor: ok, so what did this test reveal?
[08:59] <jantor> that it will respond to connection
[08:59] <bullgard> man aptitude: "Actions may be performed from a visual interface or from the command-line." How can I operate aptitude from a GUI? (I am using GNOME.)
[08:59] <maasha> jantor: now I need some way to test if can send an email.
[08:59] <jantor> I have to have the rfc up to see the other commands, I know the next one is ehlo hostname
[09:00] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: LDAP + /home mounted via NFS is how I would go about it
[09:00] <nitemovz> FireCrotch: Thanks so much! You are a great help!
[09:01] <turtle^s0up> Is Kubuntu going to get KDE SC 4.4 release in 9.10?
[09:01]  * maasha installs mutt
[09:01] <maasha> man, I have not used mutt for 10 years
[09:01] <jantor> setup thunderbird to test that smtp
[09:02] <Tek-5-8-6> Anybody have a usefull link that explains how to set up hardware RAID on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[09:02] <bullgard> What is the function of /lib/ld-2.10.1.so?
[09:03] <nitemovz> is there a way to authenticate a website against LDAP?
[09:03] <FireCrotch> Tek-5-8-6: if it's a hardware RAID controller, you ought to be able to just set everything up in the RAID card's BIOS
[09:05] <Gryphon4> Dose anyone know how i can download ubuntu restricted extras but not instal i just want the package?
[09:06] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: two ways you can do it - either in apache with mod_ldap, or in whatever scripting language you're coding the site in
[09:07] <meway> what is a good tirminal text editor?
[09:07] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: apt-get install -d ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:07] <Myrtti> meway: nano, jed, vi etc.
[09:07] <nitemovz> Awesome! Thank you so much!
[09:07] <joe_evans> meway: i use diakonos and it is fantastic
[09:07] <meway> ooh i think vi is the one I was trying to think of
[09:08] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: PHP, for example, has ldap functions built in
[09:08] <nitemovz> I am working for a company that uses Linux as the network system, and I am starting my own company as well, and I love the way Linux works over Windows
[09:09] <maasha> ok, so I was able to send a mail via the smtp server. cool
[09:10] <Gryphon4> myrtti i dont want to install it i just want to download it.
[09:10] <puckettc> Where do I go looking for LTSP help?  I have been running LTSP 5.0 for a while and have three servers serving about 70 clients but one large server has xorg at 90% CPU.  any ideas?
[09:11] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: man apt-get tells you, that -d "Download only; package files are only retrieved, not unpacked or installed."
[09:11] <Viper1432> Gryphon4,   32bit or 64bit?
[09:12] <brat> what router brand  tells you the uptime of the router?
[09:12] <Gryphon4> is it SUDO apt get????????????????????
[09:12] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: yes.
[09:12] <Gryphon4> or just apt get
[09:12] <indus> Gryphon4, what do you want to do
[09:12] <FireCrotch> puckettc: #ltsp
[09:12] <Viper1432> Gryphon4, ..........dude there's an easier way.  32bit or 64bit restricted-extras?
[09:13] <Viper1432> just tell me and I'll show you the light.
[09:13] <Myrtti> Viper1432: he's been told several methods. which one are you going to suggest?
[09:13] <puckettc> thanks
[09:13] <Viper1432> this one:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/ubuntu-restricted-extras/download
[09:13] <nitemovz> FireCrotch: Do you know how to setup LDAP Authentication for networks?
[09:13] <mint_> hi how to save my current session in ubuntu like i can in kubuntu
[09:13] <Viper1432> all the ftp servers that have the files.
[09:13] <Myrtti> Viper1432: that doesn't handle the dependencies
[09:14] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: I played around with it once, didn't get very far, unfortunately
[09:14] <Viper1432> he was just asking about that package specifically.  so there is the WAY to download that package.  shrugs.
[09:14] <nitemovz> FireCrotch: Thanks anyway. I will Google the crap out of the subject. Hopefully Howtoforge.com has something
[09:16] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: the ubuntu docs have some stuff on LDAP
[09:17] <nitemovz> FireCrotch: Awesome! Thanks!
[09:17] <FireCrotch> nitemovz: good luck :)
[09:18] <heroin> Hey, can somone help me setup a proxy for my IRC?
[09:18] <nitemovz> FireCrotch: I am going to need it. I have only used Linux in a business environment from the end user perspective, it will be a great learning experience to setup the servers and all from the Support perspective.
[09:19] <Error404NotFound> could someone help me with http://pastebin.com/m5625982d ? I am trying to update Dell Inspiron 1545 BIOS using Karmic
[09:19] <bullgard> man aptitude: "Actions may be performed from a visual interface or from the command-line." How can I operate aptitude from a GUI? (I am using GNOME.)
[09:19] <Myrtti> bullgard: just type aptitude or sudo aptitude, and a ncurses interface will be started
[09:20] <pkm4o93> notemovz: I am interested in business and ubuntu too.recently I replied to some one asking about this similar thing on ubuntu forum,very little replies.
[09:20] <pkm4o93> nitemovz: he was asking about apt-proxy,and how to manage many machines. I am still looking into this.
[09:21] <main> #ubuntu
[09:22] <main> hello
[09:22] <mint_> hi how to save my current session in ubuntu like i can in kubuntu i want to save my open applications for open on reboot
[09:22] <littlegreen> hey guys! I'm having trouble with my HP Mini running ubuntu 9.10... Erm... entering my password @ the login screen doesn't log me in my home dir... I've got no icons on my desktop and nautilus won't run if I don't run it in terminal... any Ideas?
[09:22] <main> #linuxac
[09:22] <main> $linuxac
[09:22] <Viper1432> Just thinking out loud here pkm4o93  and nitemovz , but if you're dealing with ubuntu from a "biz" perspective, wouldn't it help to query canonical for support as well?  I mean that's what they are setup for.  just curious.
[09:22] <Myrtti> main: /join #channelname
[09:22] <bullgard> Myrtti: Thank you very much for your help. ('~$ aptitude why postfix' does not start the ncurses interface though.)
[09:22] <nibbler> littlegreen: how do you see your desktop if you cant login?
[09:23] <Myrtti> bullgard: no, it doesn't because you gave it extra arguments
[09:23] <nitemovz> Viper1432 - this is very true
[09:23] <bullgard> Myrtti: Thank you again.
[09:23] <pkm4o93> littlegreen: did you upgrade to 9.10 or install ?
[09:23] <vorlock> hi guys
[09:23] <littlegreen> nibbler, I only see my desktop background image...
[09:23] <Viper1432> actually another place to check for that might be the VAR Guy's site as well.  He deals with ubuntu from that very perspective.  just thinkin. :)
[09:23] <pkm4o93> hi
[09:24] <peppo> anyone know if there's a backport of libsoup 2.29.x (with gzip compression support) to karmic?
[09:24] <pkm4o93> Viper1432: thanks I remember that guys name now VARguy
[09:24] <littlegreen> pkm4o93,  it
[09:24] <littlegreen> pkm4o93,  *sorry. It's a clean install.
[09:24] <Viper1432> yep pkm4o93 .  good site with a lot of info and links for business related 'buntu stuff.
[09:24] <vorlock> any idea how in karmic tty is linked to framebuffer? cause when killing x I'm loosing tty as well
[09:25] <littlegreen> That's the trick - I DO login, but don'
[09:25] <littlegreen> but don't see my desktop icons
[09:26] <pkm4o93> Viper1432: thanks. I actually find the ubuntu documentation website complex and not intuitive. I find debian much easier to find good info.
[09:26] <pepe> In forums anyone helps me
[09:26] <indus> pkm4o93, complex?in what sense?
[09:26] <littlegreen> So guys... any Ideas?
[09:26] <mint_> hi how to save my current session in ubuntu like i can in kubuntu i want to save my open applications for open on reboot
[09:26] <pepe> i've got a lot of troubles on my ubuntu 9.10
[09:26] <pepe> can someone help me?
[09:26] <Viper1432> pkm4o93,  I actually prefer ubuntu's site and documentation to debian's....but to each their own. :)
[09:26] <indus> mint_, startup applications from system>admin >
[09:27] <pkm4o93> indus: Not so much complex but 'busy' Perhaps I am just missing a simple link or not looking long enough
[09:27] <indus> mint_, remember running apps when quitting
[09:27] <bullgard> !ask | pepe
[09:27] <pkm4o93> I end up googling for help instead.
[09:27] <indus> pepe, yes
[09:27] <indus> pkm4o93, its a wiki which can be edited
[09:27] <pepe> thankyou
[09:27] <indus> pkm4o93, you can add a few bits maybe
[09:27] <pkm4o93> littlegreen: I dont have enough experience with 9.10 right now I have downgraded to 8.10 sorry.
[09:27] <pepe> first at all, i'm from spain, and my english is not perfect
[09:27] <indus> pepe, tell me dear how may we help
[09:28] <mint_> hi how can i login to my nick i;m on another computer
[09:28] <hak5fan> How can I find all unanswerd posts on ubuntuforums?
[09:28] <DaveInPhx> no hay problema pepe, podemos traducir si es ncesario
[09:28] <indus> hak5fan, there is a box on right i think which says so
[09:28] <DaveInPhx> (I told him I can translate)
[09:28] <littlegreen> Well... can't you give me a suggestion? Throw me a straw here ;-)
[09:29] <pepe> My worse problem is with the microphone. It doesn't work. I don't know why. The mic/line in doesn't work also. I have a notebook acer aspire 6530
[09:29] <mint_> #/join #freenode
[09:29] <pepe> Thankyou Dave
[09:29] <FireCrotch> mint_: /msg NickServ IDENTIFY yourpassword
[09:29] <DJones> mint_: Do you mean log your nick off irc so you can reconnect to it from a different computer
[09:30] <pkm4o93> littlegreen: my workaround is to use as many distributions as I can linuxmint, ubuntu 8.04 ubuntu 9.04 fedora, and compare :P
[09:30] <bullgard> !sound | pepe
[09:31] <koshari> pkm4o93 littlegreen left the room
[09:31] <hak5fan> indus: i feel really stupid but I can't find it. There is a new posts link though
[09:31] <Sarge[d]Night> Good day, I'm having some trouble with Bluetooth dialup on ubuntu 9.10, anyone that can give a guy a hand?
[09:31] <pkm4o93> koshari: thanks the text moves so quick when you are doing something else.
[09:31] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night bluetooth dial up, ? via modem or gprs?
[09:32] <Sarge[d]Night> gprs
[09:32] <pepe> i have no the alsa mixer options, but i tried to edit ALSA mixer options in the console
[09:32] <pepe> I looked for info in forums and i have seen that this is a common problem since older versions of ubuntu
[09:32] <pepe> i have the same problem with all distros i tried, like DEBIAN, o.SUSE, KUBUNTU, FEDORA...
[09:33] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night whats your prob?
[09:33] <Sarge[d]Night> koshari: someone here posted me a step by step guide to get my dialup going
[09:33] <Sarge[d]Night> tried it last night for a couple of hours
[09:34] <Sarge[d]Night> it seems like when i create all the scripts and startup files, and I restart my bluetooth service, it doesn't recognise the rfcomm channels/devices
[09:34] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night what was the prob?
[09:34] <FireCrotch> hak5fan: Click Search, and on that page, there is an option for "Find Threads with" on the left hand side. choose At Most: 0 replies
[09:34] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night what version ubuntu
[09:34] <Sarge[d]Night> 9.10
[09:34] <infid> is sudoedit worth using? what's the point of it exactly, over just 'sudo vim bla.txt'?
[09:34] <m_fulder> hi, I've downloaded samba some days ago and it works fine to share folders between windows and ubuntu...I now connected a HDD via USB to my ubuntu computer and want to share a folder on this HDD...while trying to access it later through windows I get a error message that I can't acess this folder...why is that???
[09:35] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night you may need to manually bind rfcon 0
[09:35] <indus> hak5fan, can you use search function
[09:35] <Sarge[d]Night> i tried that
[09:35] <indus> !who | pepe
[09:35] <indus> pepe,
[09:35] <indus> pepe
[09:35] <indus> pepe
[09:35] <FloodBot4> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:35] <hak5fan> indus: ok
[09:35] <indus> hak5fan, SO why exactly u looking for this?
[09:36] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night this is what i had to do to get gprs ppp https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/416056
[09:36] <Sarge[d]Night> ...checking it out quickly
[09:36] <Sarge[d]Night> what version do u have?
[09:36] <koshari> 9.10
[09:36] <Sarge[d]Night> phone?
[09:36] <DaveInPhx> !pepe did you see that?
[09:37] <koshari> nokia 6131
[09:37] <pepe> yes
[09:37] <pepe> i was reading the links ubottu written
[09:37] <teage> how do you use paste.ubuntu to paste?
[09:37] <DaveInPhx> esta bien ^^
[09:38] <indus> teage, go to paste.ubuntu.com and paste, write your name and clic kon send, then copy url and paste here
[09:38] <pepe> ! DaveInPhx this way?
[09:39] <meowbuntu> hi how to save my current session in ubuntu my open apps etc
[09:39] <Diverdude> when i use xfontsel from the shell to see available fonts, and choose -fndry bitstream i only have very few options to choose between in fmly. How do I install all the bitstream fonts in my system, so that they are available system-wide?
[09:39] <Teffers> hey guys got 2 issues you people maybe able to help me with im using ubuntu in persistance usb mode and having a troble with broadcom b4312 rev1 b/g drives compat wireless or propirertry and also wondering about is it posible to chage the default username for live mode from ubuntu to something more suitable to me since alot of software that pulls names and nicks are pulled from the user name of the log in on the subject of b43 please pm me if
[09:39] <Teffers>  posible just dealign with main chat screen is a pain cause of my dyslexia also how can i disable my touchpad mouse cos its driving me up the wall and keeps spazzing out
[09:39] <reni__> I cannot start nautilus unless I'm root ... WTF? Can any1 tell me what to do?
[09:39] <teage> what do you mean "click kon send" i dont see anything or any kind of click icon for kon send?
[09:39] <indus> meowbuntu, i told you befoere no? go to system>prefe>startup applications> remember running apps when quitt
[09:39] <DaveInPhx> pepe: include the name of the person you want to talk to at the beginning of the line
[09:39] <indus> teage, click on send button
[09:39] <Sarge[d]Night> koshare: can i paste something in aprv msg to you quickly, don't wanna flood the channel
[09:39] <indus> teage, in the paste box down
[09:40] <ZykoticK9> meowbuntu, System / Preferences / Startup Applications / Options tab - put the check in "Automatically remember..."
[09:40] <indus> teage, first copy the contents into paste, then do it
[09:40] <pepe> DaveInPhx ok
[09:40] <DaveInPhx> pepe: the person answering your questions initially was bullgard
[09:40] <pepe> :P
[09:40] <Diverdude> anyone?
[09:41] <wizzo50> Help, How do you open a .tar.bz2 file in Ubuntu?
[09:41] <pepe> bullgard do you kwon my problem?
[09:41] <Teffers> did anyone see my intial chat message ??
[09:41] <teage> indus, ok i see now , thanx
[09:41] <indus> teage, np
[09:41] <ZykoticK9> Teffers, the big post about persistent usb -- yes
[09:41] <Teffers> \yes
[09:42] <bullgard> pepe: Sometimes this helps: Call 'alsamixer'. Set View:= Capture. Carefully search and adjust all microphone-related controls.
[09:42] <wizzo50> How do you open a .tar.bz2 file in Ubuntu? To upgrade my Firefox
[09:42] <Teffers> the reason i stated abotu the persistance cos i know of a fix for the broadcom drivers but involves updating the kernel
[09:42] <Teffers> was abit jubeus about it
[09:42] <pepe> bullgard i also tried this, but it doesn't works
[09:42] <Teffers> thank you ZykoticK9 FOR ACKNOLAGEING
[09:42] <Teffers> ops caps
[09:43] <bullgard> pepe: I had the same problem on one computer.
[09:43] <pepe> bullgard i read in some forums that this is a common bug in UBUNTU since older versions
[09:43] <pepe> and there is not sollution?
[09:43] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, i forget the tar switch for bz2 - so the two step process: "bunzip2 $filename.tar.bz2" then "tar xvf $filename.tar"
[09:43] <Miansc> hi guys... Im on the lve CD atm.. how can I make a NTFS partition using the lvie CD?
[09:43] <Gryphon4> Can someone help me, my terminal wont alow me to enter my pasword
[09:44] <pepe> bullgard for me is very important the microphone, i don't want to come back Windows
[09:44] <Teffers> Gryphon4, what it litterally nto letting you enter or is just apearign as if to not be letting you enter it
[09:44] <brat> how do i change 2 directories in one line in  irc commandline
[09:44] <bullgard> pepe: I had the same problem on one computer. This recipe finally worked. --  A friend of mine had a similar problem He did look and look again. Finally he found this relevant control also, after many weeks.
[09:45] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, what is the bunzip2?
[09:45] <Diverdude> when i use xfontsel from the shell to see available fonts, and choose -fndry bitstream i only have very few options to choose between in fmly. How do I install all the bitstream fonts in my system, so that they are available system-wide?
[09:45] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, it extracts .bz2 files
[09:45] <pepe> I'm about 2 weeks looking for in forums
[09:45] <bullgard> brat: Append the second comand with &&
[09:45] <exs> hi, i have a big problem with java. there is a java tool i need to work and it freeze out the whole time. i reinstalled java, i restarted ubuntu, i downloaded the java tool again but nevertheless, no changes.
[09:45] <Gryphon4> Teffers: sorry i dont get what your saying.
[09:45] <indus> pepe, what is your problem ?
[09:46] <pepe> in the ubuntu-es forum anyone could giveme an ansuer
[09:46] <Teffers> in other words have you tried to type it and its nto apearign btu continued and hit enter when youve finnished
[09:46] <brat> bullgard doesn't work
[09:46] <DaveInPhx> indus: his mike isn't working
[09:46] <pepe> indus My notebook microphone and line in/mic in don't work
[09:46] <Sarge[d]Night> koshari: thanks for your help man
[09:46] <Teffers> or were you just panicing cos it didnt look like it was been enters Gryphon4
[09:47] <bullgard> brat: "Doesn't work" is no precise description.
[09:47] <Gryphon4> yes
[09:47] <Teffers> opps applogies aboput typos friends laptop not used to the keyboard
[09:47] <indus> pepe, okie , open volume control ,  right click on icon on panel
[09:47] <pepe> done
[09:47] <indus> pepe, go to input tab
[09:47] <koshari> Sarge[d]Night hope ot helps
[09:47] <Teffers> Gryphon4, can i pm you??\
[09:47] <indus> pepe, what do you see?
[09:47] <Teffers> just makes things a little easyer
[09:47] <brat> bullgard  i get "invalid folder" error message
[09:48] <magicsrv> Erm... guys.. there's something really F**ed up with my user's permissions... I can't open nautilus unless I'm root, I can't reboot unless I'm root... Has any1 ever had that issue? My girl says she has filled up the hard-drive and freed some space then and then that happened
[09:48] <pepe> indus VOLUME IN, LEVEL OF VOLUME IN, AND SELECT DEVICE
[09:48] <exs> magicsrv: type id
[09:48] <bullgard> brat: So the ooerating system Ubuntu cannot find this folder. Check if you typed a wrong name oder wrong path.
[09:48] <Gryphon4> Teffers what do you mean PM?
[09:49] <bullgard> s/ooperating/operating/
[09:49] <indus> pepe, check it input is muted? there is a tick box
[09:49] <brat> bullgard  if i do   cd folder1   then  cd folder2  then it works
[09:49] <magicsrv> exs do you want the output?
[09:49] <indus> !pm | Gryphon4
[09:49] <exs> yea
[09:49] <pepe> indus no, it's not muted, i have no signal of in, and i have only a device option: Analog stereo
[09:49] <Diverdude> when i use xfontsel from the shell to see available fonts, and choose -fndry bitstream i only have very few options to choose between in fmly. How do I install all the bitstream fonts in my system, so that they are available system-wide?
[09:50] <xiong> Why this (http://www.arsgeek.com/2006/09/19/ubuntu-tricks-how-to-generate-a-list-of-installed-packages-and-use-it-to-reinstall-packages/) when this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=261366) seems simpler?
[09:50] <indus> pepe, check in input tab, not output
[09:50] <Gryphon4> sorry
[09:50] <pepe> indus this is input
[09:50] <indus> pepe, analog stereo is in output
[09:50] <indus> pepe, ok i need a screenshot
[09:50] <multiverse72> hi guys, I'm having some HD troubles... I have some random lock-ups (due to some ata I/O errors). Is it because of my 77 bad blocks?
[09:50] <Teffers> Gryphon4, if you stop entering your password becuase it didnt look as tho it was entering
[09:50] <bullgard> brat: So you are not using the proper bash grammar. People in #bash can help you.
[09:50] <indus> !paste | pep
[09:50] <indus> !paste | pepe
[09:51] <magicsrv> exs : uid=1000(reni) gid=115(admin) groups=4(adm), 20(dialout),24(cdrom),26(tape),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),103(fuse),104(lpadmin),112(netdev),115(admin),120(sambashare),1000(reni)
[09:51] <Teffers> Gryphon4 you are not ment to be able to see the input of passwords in terminal so just continue to type your password and hit enter and it should allow you in
[09:51] <Teffers> if its jsut genrally not lettign you enter but your sure you type the correct password
[09:51] <Teffers> then im stuck i hope that helps Gryphon4
[09:52] <pepe> indus sending
[09:52] <DaveInPhx> dumb question, how do I copy text from this window? (xchat)
[09:52] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, I get this error: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:52] <multiverse72> hi guys, I'm having some HD troubles... I have some random lock-ups (due to some ata I/O errors). Is it because of my 77 bad blocks?
[09:52] <Teffers> anyone good with the age old b43 wireless problems??
[09:52] <pepe> ubottu what are multi-line texts?
[09:52] <indus> pepe, where?
[09:52] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, when do you get that error?
[09:53] <indus> pepe, ubottu is a robot, its not human
[09:53] <CyberWorld> if I have vista installed on first partion with boot loader I'm planning on installing linux on that drive will it automatically boot my win 7 partion?
[09:53] <pepe> ok :P
[09:53] <indus> pepe, multiline means more than one line
[09:53] <pepe> i didn0t know
[09:53] <Gryphon4> ubottu im new to linux ubuntu, just trying to learn.
[09:53] <Diverdude> when i use xfontsel from the shell to see available fonts, and choose -fndry bitstream i only have very few options to choose between in fmly. How do I install all the bitstream fonts in my system, so that they are available system-wide?
[09:53] <magicsrv> exs any ideas?
[09:53] <pepe> indus how do i send you the image?
[09:53] <Teffers> pepe imagebin.org
[09:53] <indus> pepe, you go to imagebin.org and upload it , then give me link
[09:54] <Teffers> lols indus  both on the same page i see
[09:54] <Teffers> lols
[09:54] <Teffers> metaphricly that is
[09:54] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, After I type the tar xvf $ filename
[09:54] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, the $filename is a variable/placeholder - but the real filename there
[09:55] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, $ tar xvf $  /home/wizzo50/Desktop/firefox-3.6.tar
[09:55] <wizzo50> tar: $: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[09:55] <wizzo50> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[09:55] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50,  tar xvf /home/wizzo50/Desktop/firefox-3.6.tar
[09:55] <Gryphon4> Teffers, it said the comand is not found!
[09:55] <indus> Teffers, metaphorically hmm
[09:55] <indus> pepe, did you understand?
[09:56] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, Ok, I ran it, now what?
[09:56] <zoli2k> ls
[09:56] <pepe> indus http://imagebin.org/84025
[09:56] <quietone> DaveInPhx: I select the text then go to the other app then click mouse wheel.
[09:56] <exs> magicsrv: it looks alright. hmmmmm u mean that u cant start nautilus if u are not root?
[09:56] <Teffers> humm what are you trying to enter you password for in terminal Gryphon4
[09:56] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, it should now be extracted - whatever it is firefox-3.6 - cd into the directory and try "./firefox" or whatever the bin is
[09:57] <indus> pepe, entrada is enter?
[09:57] <pepe> yes
[09:57] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, ok
[09:57] <Teffers> any wireless card issue specialists in here ???
[09:57] <pepe> indus yes
[09:57] <indus> pepe, hmm
[09:57] <indus> pepe, i cant find devices
[09:58] <DaveInPhx> quietone: thanks !
[09:58] <multiverse72> anyone?
[09:58] <Gryphon4> im trying to download ubuntu resricted extras but not download it and its asking for my pasword!
[09:58] <iceroot> Gryphon4: its your user-password
[09:58] <iceroot> Gryphon4: its normal when using sudo
[09:59] <Teffers> iceroot, he ses hes gettign a command not found error when enterign his password
[09:59] <multiverse72> can anyone help me?
[09:59] <Gryphon4> Ya i know but is sayin not found
[09:59] <Teffers> but i think its just genrally the command he using while doign sudo thats the problem
[09:59] <Teffers> now im looking at it
[09:59] <pepe> indus reading in blogs and forums i could (now is not installed) that a mic selection option appears, and i research that mi external mic make some noise
[09:59] <Teffers> Gryphon4, i think the comand you are sudo'ing is whats at fault
[10:00] <ZykoticK9> multiverse72, if you're getting I/O error the best thing to do is make a back of anything important on that drive, as it's probably failing...  hope i'm wrong - good luck
[10:00] <multiverse72> ZykoticK9, thanks :)
[10:00] <Gryphon4> Teffers: correct me sudo apt-get ubuntu resricted extras////////
[10:00] <pepe> indus as i said, i read that this is a common problem since old versions, but i have the same problem with DEBIAN, KUBUNTU, o.SUSE and FEDORA
[10:00] <exs> can someone say something to my problem? my java program does not function anymore after ivh killed it with xkill
[10:00] <indus> pepe, what sound card you have, can you paste \
[10:01] <pepe> indus i don't know, how can i see it?
[10:01] <indus> pepe, open terminal and type lspci
[10:01] <|-_-|> Let's get acquainted?
[10:01] <Teffers> yes major fail right there gryphon i dont deal witht he repos in terminal i use software sources in System>Administration> but i can tell you now that apt-get command is what is wrong
[10:02] <Teffers> Gryphon4, *
[10:02] <Teffers> btu i dont no the acctuall terminal commands for apptitude to unlock repos
[10:02] <Teffers> actually*
[10:02] <Gryphon4> My terminal is not alowing enter any thing!
[10:03] <Gryphon4> Its saying not found.
[10:03] <Teffers> humm that sounds like a shell error if it not alowing anythign to be enterd
[10:03] <ouyes> bad luck, try to open anther one Gryphon4
[10:04] <Gryphon4> open anoter What ouyes?
[10:04] <pepe> indus 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[10:04] <pepe> indus 02:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV620 Audio device [Radeon HD 34xx Series]
[10:04] <magicsrv> 11:57 exs • magicsrv: it looks alright. hmmmmm u mean that u cant start nautilus if u are not root? exactly
[10:04] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[10:04] <Teffers> just try a basic one for me just to check sudo is working correctly "sudo echo sudo test"
[10:04] <indus> pepe, can you tell me under hardware, what you have
[10:05] <DaveInPhx> not sure if there are any Wine gurus on, but just a general question: when running an application in Wine which demands internet access, does Wine provide the access or is additional configuration required?
[10:05] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, I not able to find where it extracted the files
[10:05] <indus> DaveInPhx, maybe #wine is a good idea
[10:05] <Paranoir> Hey. Can someone tell me how to use tethering with my iPhone without jailbreaking it? I've tried Bluetooth but it doesn't seem to work..
[10:05] <DaveInPhx> indus, copy, thanks, trying there
[10:05] <Teffers> RIght for the 40th time now lols Can any one help me with my B43 driver problems so ic an stop using my mobile broadband dongle
[10:05] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, where was the file?  probably in the same place
[10:05] <Myrtti> DaveInPhx: in my general experience, wine does it automatically
[10:06] <pepe> indus AMD turion X2 RM-72, 2.1Ghz, ATI RADEON HD 3470 X2 (i think CF with 3220)
[10:06] <pepe> indus what else?
[10:06] <Myrtti> indus: #winehq, for further reference
[10:06] <wizzo50> In downloads in Firefox
[10:06] <indus> Myrtti, ok thanks , DaveInPhx ask in #winehq
[10:06] <soreau> ! broadcom | Teffers
[10:06] <indus> pepe, actually iam asking in volume properties in hardware tab
[10:06] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, so perhaps "cd ~/Downloads" then try "cd fire<press the TAB key>"
[10:07] <pepe> indus what?
[10:07] <Gryphon4> Teffers what should it say?
[10:07] <indus> pepe, in volume properties> hardware tab ,
[10:07] <Teffers> Gryphon4,  it should have write on screen sudo test
[10:07] <Gryphon4> yes it is
[10:08] <Tabmow> Anyone had any problems mounting an external NTFS partition? It doesn't automatically mount when I plug it in, if I manually mount it I get 'NTFS signature is missing.' error.
[10:08] <pepe> indus i'll upload a image
[10:08] <Tabmow> Works fine under Win2K8 Server and Windows 7.
[10:08] <Teffers> well terminal is workign correctly
[10:08] <indus> pepe, wait
[10:08] <Paranoir> Anyone had success with tethering from iPhone without jailbreaking it?
[10:08] <Gryphon4> ya
[10:08] <Teffers> and try this for what you need
 Gryphon4, "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[10:09] <ZykoticK9> Tabmow, have you install ntfsprogs ?
[10:09] <xiong> Using this ($ dpkg --set-selections < installed-software) I expect to download all packages freshly from repos. While this is theoretically best, it's a lot of bytes. How can I substitute already downloaded packages, now backed up onto DVD?
[10:09] <ZykoticK9> Tabmow, i JUST say your error on this page http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=847318
[10:09] <Gryphon4> Teffers i dont want to instal i just want to download the package.
[10:09] <indus> pepe, see this is mine http://imagebin.org/84028
[10:10] <pepe> indus http://imagebin.org/84027
[10:10] <pepe> indus ok
[10:10] <indus> pepe, there  is a drop down menu to select inuput device
[10:10] <indus> pepe, ok harware looks fine
[10:10] <Tabmow> ZykoticK9: yes because I can mount other windows drives perfectly, and some other flash disks fine formatted as NTFS.
[10:10] <indus> pepe, can you type alsamixer in terminal and see there
[10:10] <Teffers> ZykoticK9,  can you help Gryphon4  im startign to misunderstand what hes wanting
[10:11] <pkm4o93> Gryphon4: use apt-get with -d switch -d = download only.
[10:11] <pepe> indus do you want an screenshot?
[10:11] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, Teffers i have bad news - i don't think ubuntu-restricted-extras downloads/installs like other packages, typically stuff goes to /var/cache/apt/archive but i think U-R-E is different (i could be wrong though, but i think they try to prevent people from actually downloading the packages)
[10:11] <chihiro> #help
[10:12] <chihiro> X chat をインストールしてみました。初期状態でここに接続されたわ。
[10:12] <Gryphon4> so i cant download the package
[10:12] <Gryphon4> ?
[10:12] <ZykoticK9> Tabmow, i have no idea man (it was just the fact that i had seen your error 2 minutes before you ask) i don't do any Windows stuff AT ALL
[10:12] <rww> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get --download-only install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:13] <rww> This will work fine, except that actually installing Flash requires an Internet connection.
[10:13] <pepe> indus http://imagebin.org/84029
[10:13] <Tabmow> ZykoticK9: Unfortunately I have to use it at work... hence why I need to mount this drive :(
[10:13] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, to start with it's not one package, it's a whole bunch
[10:13] <wizzo50> ZykoticK9, When I run it, it just opens firefox, instead of installing it, the upgrade.
[10:13] <ZykoticK9> Tabmow, oh i hear you - i just don't have an answer, sorry
[10:14] <Tabmow> ZykoticK9: no probs, i'll keep looking :)
[10:14] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, what you downloaded WILL NOT INSTALL, just create a launch pointing to that directory/file in your menu (system / preferences / main menu - and add a new item for it)
[10:15] <ZykoticK9> s/launch/launcher
[10:16] <Teffers> still havign no luck with b43 driver all i get when my wirless card is activated apearin is ppp0
[10:17] <jerm> ifconfig shows your as ppp0?
[10:18] <Teffers> yep and iwconfig states oit isnt a wirless device btu tis thew onyl thing thaty apears after i modprob my card
[10:18] <Tabmow> ZykoticK9: gparted lists it as an unknown partition, ntfsfix also says that it is corrupt and needs a chkdsk run on it, I guess the ntfs driver for linux is more strict than windows and won't mount it because of that, I might have to take it to a windows machine and run a chkdsk on it I guess...
[10:18] <Gryphon4> teffers,Zykotick9 and rww do any of you no why my 5th generation ipod will not let ubuntu put music on????
[10:18] <goryl> .
[10:18] <pepe> indus i'm here, if you have something tellme please
[10:18] <ZykoticK9> Tabmow, quite possible - that's certainly a fairly common issue
[10:19] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, i've never owned any Apple products so i have no idea
[10:20] <redux> Hi all. Does anyone have Karmic running on a macbook 5,1 - with wake-from-usb working? I've tried enabling the various triggers in /proc/acpi/wakeup ...but to no avail.
[10:20] <Gryphon4> Ok thanks Zykotick9
[10:20] <jerm> teffers what type of card do you have?
[10:20] <indus> pepe,
[10:20] <indus> sorry
[10:20] <indus> wait
[10:20] <Teffers> b4312 b/g rev 01 LP PHY
[10:20] <pepe> indus
[10:21] <xiong> Using this ($ dpkg --set-selections < installed-software) I expect to download all packages freshly from repos. While this is theoretically best, it's a lot of bytes. How can I substitute already downloaded packages, now backed up onto DVD?
[10:21] <indus> pepe, i have the same sound card so iam not sure what is happening in your case, give me 1 min
[10:21] <magicsrv> how can I access windows network using CLI?
[10:21] <czeslavo> Gryphon4 is it jailbroken ?
[10:21] <ZykoticK9> Teffers, if it a pci card?  if so do you see it with "lspci | grep -i network"?
[10:21] <indus> pepe, woohoo found it
[10:21] <Teffers> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[10:21] <erUSUL> xiong: copy them to /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[10:22] <Gryphon4> czeslavo,???????????????????????????????
[10:22] <erUSUL> Teffers: install b43-fwcutter
[10:22] <xiong> erUSUL, Let me take a look at that.
[10:22] <Teffers> got the firmware
[10:22] <Teffers> thats the first thign idid
[10:22] <Teffers> hell i tryed the propiretery drivers that come with the firmware
[10:22] <indus> pepe, see in mic it says MM which means muted, so press m !
[10:22] <erUSUL> Teffers: so you have a wlan0 in the » iw config » utput?
[10:22] <indus> pepe, understand?
[10:22] <erUSUL> Teffers: so you have a wlan0 in the » iw config » output?
[10:22] <indus> pepe, it will surely work
[10:23] <Teffers> nope
[10:23] <Teffers> it litterally is wantign to fidn the card for love nro monye
[10:23] <indus> pepe, when you press m it will let you adjust input volume also, just press up arrow
[10:23] <Teffers> the only thign that appeard after i first modprobed it was ppp0
[10:23] <xiong> erUSUL, I see only about 139 items in that folder now; but I have over 2000 packages actually installed. Why?
[10:23] <magicsrv> how can I access windows network using CLI?
[10:24] <erUSUL> Teffers: sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 && dmesg | tail -n20
[10:24] <erUSUL> Teffers: paste the output
[10:24] <bullgard> What precisely is 'autologin' in Ubuntu Karmic?  '~$ locate autologin; /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin'. {pam.d means 'personal authentication module directory'.} '~$ grep -r 'autologin' /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/Documentation' does not produce any output.
[10:24] <xiong> erUSUL, Is it possible that the original packages are *sometimes* automatically deleted? Or perhaps, did I somehow do that myself, in a fit of insanity?
[10:24] <erUSUL> xiong: if you do sudo apt-get clean you remove packages from there
[10:24] <pepe> indus ooooo
[10:24] <pepe> yes!
[10:24] <erUSUL> xiong: or autoclean
[10:24] <indus> pepe, !!!!!!!!!
[10:25] <indus> pepe, have fun
[10:25] <pepe> indus but now i can't adjust the volume
[10:25]  * xiong picks up the phone and calls the nice fellows in the clean white coats
[10:25] <indus> pepe, why not?
[10:25] <pepe> indus i'ts on 00
[10:25] <pepe> indus i can't move the arrow
[10:25] <indus> pepe, move it with up arrow
[10:25] <indus> pepe, no ?
[10:25] <xiong> erUSUL, Okay, then; the discussion is academic. After doing clean install, I'll have to download all packages freshly anyway.
[10:25] <pepe> i can't
[10:25] <indus> pepe, try somethings
[10:26] <Teffers> erUSUL, http://pastebin.org/88769
[10:26] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, do you happen to know, are the packages included with ubuntu-restricted-extras downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archives as well?  I'm under the impression that they are not - can you confirm/deny?
[10:26] <erUSUL> xiong: yes. unless you have them stored somewhere
[10:26] <pepe> indus no, i can't
[10:26] <indus> pepe, press m again
[10:26] <xiong> The only thing being, I intend to edit out from the reinstall list packages I downloaded to try and didn't like.
[10:26] <Gryphon4> Teffers,um learning ubuntu and idont understand what pm means???????
[10:26] <indus> pepe, move it then m again
[10:26] <erUSUL> !aptoncd | xiong FYI
[10:26] <edogawa> Tabmow: tried google with tat error message? seems there are quite some hits, including postings marked [SOLVED]:)
[10:26] <pepe> NOW
[10:26] <xiong> erUSUL, Yes well, next time. I obviously porked myself this time.
[10:26] <Teffers> pm isnt anything to do with ubuntu so much it a genric shorthand for private message
[10:27] <erUSUL> Teffers: [ 9437.660226] b43-phy0 ERROR: FOUND UNSUPPORTED PHY (Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1
[10:27] <erUSUL> Teffers: :/
[10:27] <pepe> indus wait
[10:27] <Teffers> i think i need to update the kernel
[10:27] <indus> pepe, ok
[10:28] <erUSUL> ZykoticK9: they are downloaded there; but some things like flash and b43-fwcutter are just scripts that when dled are executed and downloads tarballs from other locations. that data is not saved anywhere
[10:28] <indus> pepe, i have some work i come back in 5 min
[10:28] <pepe> indus it's done, but the input bar doesn't move
[10:28] <Teffers> i been told that is a major becuase my card has a low power phy but im abit jumpy abotu updating kernels on here especialy sicne i run it of a usb pen in persistance mode
[10:29] <pepe> indus ok, i'll stay here for 10 minutes, i have to go too
[10:29] <ZykoticK9> erUSUL, thanks
[10:29] <magicsrv> Can any1 tell me how to access windows network using CLI? I have samba installed and running
[10:29] <Gryphon4> Teffers, Can i pm you??/
[10:29] <Teffers> kinda busy atm what do you need
[10:29] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, did you just see the reply that erUSUL sent to me?  some of U-R-E is saved to /var/cache/apt/archive, some is not - does that help you out at all?
[10:30] <iceroot> magicsrv: smbclient i would use
[10:30] <iceroot> magicsrv: or mount it with cifs
[10:30] <Gryphon4> zykotic i dont realy understand
[10:30] <erUSUL> Teffers: really dunno
[10:30] <magicsrv> iceroot thanks. I'll try it.'
[10:31] <DaveInPhx> ok guys, I got what I needed in winehq - thanks for the pointers, and I wish you all a very good night :)  Thanks for being here for us!
[10:31] <toader> Hi, what is the meaning of IO bound and CPU bound?
[10:31] <Teffers> erUSUL,  is it safe to update a kernel on a live usb
[10:31] <Teffers> concidering i run it in persistance
[10:31] <erUSUL> Teffers: as safe as in any other install afaics
[10:31] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, basically - you still can't download/save U-R-E, perhaps some packages you could - what are you interested in getting?  flash?
[10:31] <Teffers> uck i hate doign kernel updates i always fuck them up lols
[10:32] <Teffers> does anyone wann screen me through a kernel update
[10:33] <Gryphon4> ubuntu resricted extras
[10:33] <hudo> where or how can I find the messages at boot time, like Starting oracle,  these messages are not shown with dmesg
[10:33] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, yes, but U-R-E is made up of many small packages, what feature/function do you want?
[10:33] <erUSUL> hudo: /var/log/syslog ? /var/log/daemon.log ?
[10:33] <magicsrv> Is there an automatic repair tool for ubuntu 9.10?
[10:34] <erUSUL> magicsrv: to repair what?
[10:34] <tano> ciao
[10:34] <Gryphon4> i dont know i guess all what is the size of them all?
[10:34] <erUSUL> Teffers: see here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/376259
[10:34] <magicsrv> erUSUL the whole system. I can't login correctly - when my computer starts I get a terminal in my top-left corner and no login-screen... many services don't start, etc.
[10:35] <tano> no mi funziona il surround ed in piu se inserisco le cuffie l'audio si sente dal notebook e non dalle cuffie: soluzioni?
[10:35] <erUSUL> magicsrv: no; not such a broad scope tool
[10:35] <hudo> erUSUL, no checked that already
[10:35] <ZykoticK9> Gryphon4, i'm just going to say that it can't be downloaded, sorry man
[10:35] <erUSUL> !it | tano
[10:35] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: what are you trying to achieve? why do you need to download them without installing? there's been several answers given to you already, what have you tried, what haven't you? why?
[10:35] <rn777> hello
[10:36] <rn777> How to I run my script in the ubuntu terminal
[10:36] <rn777> I used chmod +x
[10:36] <magicsrv> erUSUL I guess reinstall then is my option... as soon as I achieve desent backup...
[10:36] <iceroot> rn777: ./scriptname
[10:36] <erUSUL> rn777: ./scriptname
[10:36] <iceroot> erUSUL: to slow :)
[10:36] <erUSUL> magicsrv: without knowing what is going on is all i can say.
[10:36] <erUSUL> iceroot: next time ;)
[10:36] <rn777> yay it worked. Thanks
[10:37] <rumpsy> Somebody need me, who is that ?
[10:37] <indus> pepe, hi
[10:37] <pepe> indus
[10:37] <indus> pepe, i give you another option, type amixer
[10:38] <indus> see if mic is muted
[10:38] <indus> if yes i shall tell you what to do
[10:38] <rumpsy> Is that safe to assign password for root ?
[10:38] <magicsrv> erUSUL well... nothing's going on actually :) Instead of welcome screen I get a teminal window... gnome is running, but most of the services don't start. There's no login screen... like I'm in the incorrect runlevel or something... I'm not sure really....
[10:38] <Myrtti> rumpsy: no
[10:38] <indus> i hate it when i cant solve some problem '
[10:38] <xiong> How many kernels is it rational for me to retain?
[10:38] <rumpsy> Myrtti: Then my system can easily hacked :(
[10:38] <iceroot> rumpsy: no
[10:38] <Myrtti> rumpsy: er, it's more easily hacked if you *HAVE* root password
[10:38] <erUSUL> magicsrv: tried to pass a filesystem check form a livecd
[10:38] <erUSUL> ?
[10:39] <magicsrv> erUSUL not yet. I'm writing down a live-usb as we speak...
[10:39] <rumpsy> Myrtti: there is possibilities to enter root account using recovery mode right?
[10:39] <Deathspike> Hello; I've installed Subversion and created a SVN repository via https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Subversion - however, web interface to the SVN works but using a SVN client connections are refused. Any idea's to check?
[10:40] <Myrtti> rumpsy: yes, but it's also possible to set a password to grub to not allow entry to recovery mode
[10:40] <erUSUL> !rootshell | rumpsy
[10:40] <Gryphon4> Myrtti, ive tryed every thing.i need to use the softwere in a country where there is no internet, so i can just install of the flash. insted of trying to find internet.and ive just started using ubuntu.
[10:40] <magicsrv> erUSUL that won't damage the information on the PC right?
[10:40] <pepe> indus Simple mixer control 'Mic',0
[10:40] <pepe>   Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
[10:40] <pepe>   Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
[10:40] <pepe>   Limits: Playback 0 - 31
[10:40] <pepe>   Mono:
[10:40] <FloodBot4> pepe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:40] <pepe>   Front Left: Playback 21 [68%] [-3.00dB] [on]
[10:40] <Machtin> hey guys.. how can i set my nameserver? or maybe reinitialize the whole networking?
[10:40] <Myrtti> rumpsy: if someone gets access to your computer physically, you're in trouble anyway
[10:41] <Lord-Readman> On launchpad translations how often do the Overall statistics: update?
[10:41] <indus> pepe, yes wait 1 sec
[10:41] <erUSUL> magicsrv: it is hard to know. fsck has options to only check the fs and not try to repair nor writte to it
[10:41] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, dns is set in /etc/resolve.conf
[10:41] <erUSUL> magicsrv: you can pass fsck with that options first to see what is wrong
[10:41] <Myrtti> !offline | Gryphon4, please, please have a look at this
[10:41] <indus> pepe, please give me full paste i have to read it
[10:41] <rumpsy> Myrtti: ya, i got your point,.. but what is the difference between assigning passwd for grub and root
[10:42] <indus> pepe, use pastebin.org
[10:42] <erUSUL> magicsrv: becouse automatic repair can damage data or move it around if the fs is in very bad state
[10:42] <Gryphon4> Right Thanks Guys
[10:43] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: that's what i thought.. but that doesn't work.. resolv.conf is a link to some file, so vim says it's a new file and when i want to :wq it says it can't write to the linked file.
[10:43] <rumpsy> Myrtti: i'll be hacked if they broke my grub passwd, and same scenario to root acount
[10:43] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: maybe some way to reinitialize the networking as a whole?
[10:43] <erUSUL> magicsrv: anyway. first try to mount the partition and acceess important data. backup if needed. then try the fsck options (if reallyis a filesystem error which we do not know yet)
[10:43] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, ls -l resolv.conf = -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 87 2010-02-07 12:15 resolv.conf  < not a link for me
[10:43] <Myrtti> rumpsy: it's a totally different system. assigning a password to root exposes you to bigger threats than what to recovery console does, in my opinion. Root password can be cracked in more ways than grub password
[10:44] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, do you use DHCP?
[10:44] <Machtin> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Feb  8 16:33 /etc/resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[10:44] <Machtin> yes i do
[10:44] <pepe> indus http://pastebin.org/88777
[10:44] <Guest5303> gryphon
[10:44] <Machtin> and i want to set the nameserver to my router's ip adress.. i have some booting issues, that might be why the networking won't work.
[10:44] <magicsrv> erUSUL I have a problem with the backup thing. I can't access my windows network in order to back my things up... that's why I'm waiting actually...
[10:45] <Machtin> i gained access via pump -i eth0, but host <domain> doesn't work..
[10:45] <rumpsy> Myrtti: Cool, okay let me read about this today @ ubuntu, can you please help me to set password for grub
[10:45] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, aren't you on 10.04?  i am too, but i don't even have that /etc/resolvconf/run directory???
[10:45] <pingfloyd> Machtin: easiest way is through nm-applet
[10:45] <Machtin> neither do i.. that's the strange thing.. but yes i am on 10.04
[10:45] <lao5> i am 8.04
[10:46] <Machtin> pingfloyd: knetworkmanager (I'm on KDE) crashes every time i launch it
[10:46] <rumpsy> me too, 8.04
[10:46] <rumpsy> me too, 8.04.4
[10:46] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, are you saying the link doesn't point to an actual file?  if not no way you're getting internet.
[10:46] <lao5> i removed a lot programs
[10:46] <pingfloyd> Machtin: the problem is if you edit /etc/resolv.conf it will just get overwritten
[10:47] <lao5> but still less custumized than rh
[10:47] <pingfloyd> Machtin: so you want to put the nameserver settings in whatever app is being used to manage that file
[10:47] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: exactly.
[10:47] <Machtin> pingfloyd: yes.. but i'm fine with a work around at the moment which just works for this boot.
[10:47] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, then just delete it, and put a valid resolv.conf in it's place
[10:48] <hudo> I like to read the messages from the bootprocess, the ones which are displayed on screen and have [OK] ode [FAIL] on the end of the line
[10:48] <indus> pepe, hi
[10:48] <indus> pepe, wait 1 sec
[10:48] <Myrtti> rumpsy: you need to do your own research, I've not set a password on mine, as my system is encrypted all the way.
[10:48] <indus> pepe, amixer set Mic 80% unmute
[10:48] <xfact> I have just installed Xsensors, a graphical sensor of 'lm-sensors' from the Synaptic (Karmic), but when I am starting the program, it just loading a blank window and that all, how to solve it?
[10:48] <indus> pepe, now check amixer again
[10:48] <bullgard> What precisely is 'autologin' in Ubuntu Karmic?  '~$ locate autologin; /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin'. {pam.d means 'personal authentication module directory'.} '~$ grep -r 'autologin' /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/Documentation' does not produce any output.
[10:48] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, all that's in my resolv.conf is http://paste.ubuntu.com/372380/
[10:49] <Buzza> How do i remove logon password on ubuntu
[10:49] <rumpsy> Myrtti: :)
[10:49] <indus> hi
[10:49] <bullgard> Buzza: Please do not do this!
[10:49] <rumpsy> well i'm looking for howto set grub password, Myrtti
[10:49] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: thanks :)
[10:49] <Buzza> why?
[10:49] <pepe> indus set mic 80% unmute? how?
[10:49] <Guest5303> Dose anyone know how i can find and install the other type of online chat and what its called and the chat tha allowes me to talk on other subjects??
[10:49] <pingfloyd> Machtin: you can just add   nameserver x.x.x.x to your /etc/resolv.conf then
[10:50] <xfact> Buzza, I think you can do this if that is your 'personal' computer....
[10:50] <Myrtti> Buzza: you can set it to login automatically, but you'll still need the password to install and update the system
[10:50] <Buzza> I just wan't it to log strait in and yeah it is my personal computer
[10:50] <Buzza> thats ok
[10:50] <pingfloyd> Machtin: you put whatever the ip you want for your dns server there
[10:50] <Machtin> pingfloyd: did that, like ZykoticK9 said :) thanks! i had to delete the link
[10:50] <bullgard> !nick | Buzza
[10:50] <Buzza> so how do i do it>
[10:51] <xfact> buzza, go to system>admin> 'Login Screen' and select 'login automatically'.
[10:51] <xfact>  I have just installed Xsensors, a graphical sensor of 'lm-sensors' from the Synaptic (Karmic), but when I am starting the program, it just loading a blank window and that all, how to solve it?
[10:52] <Buzza> ok thanks hey whats up with the change nick thing i never changed it lol it's been buzza since i got xchat last week
[10:52] <rumpsy> Myrtti: i agree with you, i don't want to set passwd to root now!... its better idea from you to set pass key for grub :)
[10:52] <pingfloyd> xfact: first run lm-sensors to make sure it's even working
[10:52] <Guest5303>  Dose anyone know how i can find and install the other type of online chat and what its called and the chat tha allowes me to talk on other subjects??
[10:52] <pepe> indus what did you said? on amixer set 80%?
[10:52] <Myrtti> !irc | Guest5303
[10:52] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: do you maybe have a valid sources.list for 10.04 for me?
[10:53] <Myrtti> Guest5303: pidgin/empathy can do other protocols, like MSN, Gtalk, ICQ etc
[10:53] <xfact> pingfloyd, I think it is working, because my Gnome applet showing the CPU temperatures etc.
[10:53] <Guest5303> Thanks man1
[10:53] <pingfloyd> xfact: that may be using a different facility than lm-sensors
[10:54] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, but it's Canadian eh http://paste.ubuntu.com/372384/
[10:54] <Machtin> thanks :)
[10:54] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, you have internet?
[10:54] <pingfloyd> xfact: xsensors uses lm-sensors, not sure about the gnome applet.  You should run lm-sensors to make sure lm-sensors is working otherwise xsensors will do you no good.
[10:54] <erUSUL> !sensors
[10:56] <pepe> indus
[10:56] <indus> pepe, amixer set Mic 80% unmute
[10:56] <indus> pepe, type that in a new terminal
[10:56] <indus> pepe, amixer set Mic 80% unmute
[10:56] <indus> pepe, then check if amixer is unmuted
[10:56] <pepe> ok
[10:57] <pingfloyd> pepe: optionally you can use alsamixer if you want to do it in a curses ui
[10:57] <pepe> indus done
[10:57] <indus> pepe, now in the original terminal type amixer
[10:58] <indus> pepe, mic is unmuted with 80%?
[10:58] <pepe> yes
[10:58] <EmilioTucci> HI all
[10:58] <indus> pepe, now record and good luck
[10:58] <EmilioTucci> Anyone knows how can I convert TTF fonts to AFM ones to use in my PDF creators? I found a lot of software for Win but nothing for Linux/Ubuntu. Thanks
[10:59] <rumpsy> !ttf
[10:59] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: yes i do :) thanks to you!
[10:59] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, I already have TTF fonts intalled. I want to covnert them to AFM
[11:00] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, about 1 hour after your first post in ubuntu+1 - glad you got it working
[11:00] <Guest5303> how do fix a failing hardisk?
[11:00] <pepe> indus mic is on at 81%
[11:00] <indus> pepe, good
[11:00] <indus> pepe, it works then probably
[11:00] <Guest5303> Or faild?
[11:00] <pepe> indus i want to cry!!!!
[11:01] <indus> pepe, it works?
[11:01] <pepe> no
[11:01] <erUSUL> Guest5303: buy a new one; copy important data ASAP
[11:01] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: i know a blog abou that
[11:01] <bullgard> What precisely is 'autologin' in Ubuntu Karmic?  '~$ locate autologin; /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin'. {pam.d means 'personal authentication module directory'.} '~$ grep -r 'autologin' /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.31/Documentation' does not produce any output.
[11:01] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: me too ;) though it's not really working i gues.. just a fix - won't reboot for now
[11:01] <Guest5303> Thanks for the info Man!!!!
[11:01] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, it will really help me. I need the fonts in AFM to use them in my scripts that generate PDF files
[11:01] <Myrtti> bullgard: a setting in gdm
[11:01] <pepe> indus no... but thankyou
[11:02] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: But i think its a dirty way !
[11:02] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, how dirty :) ?
[11:02] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: Look at this dirty, http://www.stuermer.ch/blog/convert-otf-to-ttf-font-on-ubuntu.html
[11:02] <Stevethepirate> Can anyone here give me a hand with some iptables forwarding? Need to basically port forward local:6112 to external:6112 ... here is a bin of what I have done thusfar.: http://pastebin.com/m7105de96
[11:02] <llutz> EmilioTucci: look at ttf2pt1
[11:02] <ZykoticK9> Machtin, seems like more an more people with Lucid are affraid to reboot...  i've been SUPER lucky i guess, almost 0 problems under lucid, basically i thinks it working much better then karmic, even at alpha 2
[11:03] <EmilioTucci> llutz, yeah, the problem is that that progam does not show up when apt-cache search (I am in 8.10)
[11:03] <Machtin> that's nice :) hope it stays that way, ZykoticK9!
[11:03] <pepe> indus and what if i try to restart?
[11:03] <iceroot> ZykoticK9: #ubuntu+1
[11:03] <llutz> EmilioTucci: build yourself http://ttf2pt1.sourceforge.net/
[11:03] <EmilioTucci> llutz, oh, sorry, I meant ttf2afm
[11:03] <indus> pepe, ok try it , but make sure you hjave microphone working
[11:04] <indus> pepe, check with  skype
[11:04] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: there is a[ackage
[11:04] <Machtin> ZykoticK9: one more thing: would you mind telling me what package i need for java? seems not to be sun-java6-jre
[11:04] <pepe> indus
[11:04] <pepe> ok
[11:04] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: there is a package
[11:04] <rumpsy> !mftrace
[11:04] <EmilioTucci> llutz, rumpsy but that produces a post script font, not a afm file (metrics) and a pbf one
[11:04] <bullgard> Myrtti: '~$ man gdm; No manual entry for gdm.' How can I access this setting?
[11:05] <Guest5303> Everyone try this it will solve all your problems! http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic
[11:05] <Myrtti> bullgard: system - administration - login screen
[11:05] <Guest5303> Everyone try this it will solve all your problems! http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic
[11:05] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: so , did you checked that mftrace package?
[11:05] <Myrtti> Guest5303: that's not really a good guide, it tells people to install random packages, but doesn't tell why
[11:06] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, oh, what that for me? sorry, let me search
[11:06] <rumpsy> Guest5303: what happen to you o_O
[11:06] <pepe> indus i checked with skype, but nothing
[11:06] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/mftrace.1.html
[11:06] <Stevethepirate> Can anyone here give me a hand with some iptables forwarding? Need to basically port forward local:6112 to external:6112 ... here is a bin of what I have done thusfar.: http://pastebin.com/m7105de96
[11:07] <EmilioTucci> mftrace is a small Python program that lets you trace a TeX bitmap
[11:07] <EmilioTucci> font (a METAFONT font) into a PFA or PFB font (A PostScript Type1
[11:07] <EmilioTucci> Scalable Font).  It is licensed under the GNU GPL.
[11:07] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, the package is under the sorces, no problem. But it says that converst from TeX fonts...mmm, I am not sure if they are TTF, are they?
[11:07] <timetrick> Hello
[11:08] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: where did you get that info?
[11:08] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, Synaptic
[11:08] <indus> pepe, i think we solved half of your problem, now i have to go
[11:08] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: check out this website, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/gutsy/man1/mftrace.1.html
[11:08] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, mftrace
[11:08] <indus> you should not lose hope
[11:08] <indus> pepe, keep trying , check in audio properties again etc
[11:08] <timetrick> got a question: can i write a script to tell NetworkManager to switch to another connection?
[11:08] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, oh, I see, that's the MAN page
[11:08] <pepe> indus thankyou
[11:09] <pepe> indus and pleased on talking with you
[11:09] <indus> pepe, adios amigos
[11:09] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: you need, mfrace and fontforge
[11:09] <pepe> indus i'll try to restar
[11:09] <pepe> indus adios y gracias!
[11:09] <bullgard> Myrtti: (Sorry for being stubborn.) Do you mean the 'Login Screen Settings' window  > 'Login as <my name> automatically' checkbox?
[11:10] <pepe> indus i'm also going bye!
[11:10] <Myrtti> bullgard: yes.
[11:10] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: that man page says that, there are possibilities to create afm type fonts
[11:11] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, yeah I see, the process looks to be really complicated
[11:11] <bullgard> Myrtti: Thank you.
[11:11] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: Yes, it ruins your time, but learn it
[11:12] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, he he he, just to create a $$%&%% Arial set of fonts
[11:12] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: ha ha :D
[11:13] <alabd> hello , how to chat on MSN on ubuntu ?
[11:13] <timetrick> alabd: amsn
[11:13] <ZykoticK9> alabd, amsn is a popular program
[11:14] <jpds> alabd: Use Empathy in Applications → Internet.
[11:14] <timetrick> Someone has an idea?
[11:14] <timetrick> how i could do this?
[11:14] <Subby> Hi, in Evolution my "Send/Receive" Button is greyed out and I don't know why
[11:14] <alabd> jpds:  here is no Empathy
[11:14] <timetrick> Subby: your in offline-mode
[11:15] <anubhav> sometime when i use synaptic to search for a package it does not show the package.But using apt-cache i can see the same.Do i have tobuild some index for synaptic?
[11:15] <timetrick> Subby: change via bottom left icon
[11:15] <JoshuaL> i have set a http_proxy via terminal, now i have unset it but each time i reboot its set again, how can i fix this?
[11:15] <alabd> how about pidgin ?
[11:15] <jpds> alabd: That would do it too.
[11:15] <Subby> timetrick: thats right ;) thanks
[11:15] <anubhav> JoshuaL: add it to your .bashrc
[11:15] <rumpsy> alabd: i think pidgin is still in repo, you can make use of it
[11:15] <JoshuaL> anubhav, the unset http_proxy?
[11:15] <alabd> jpds:  are you sure ? humble used MSN with live.con account but there is problem
[11:16] <timetrick> Subby:  np
[11:16] <jpds> alabd: I use it everyday.
[11:16] <JoshuaL> anubhav, because i dont want it to be set
[11:16] <Subby> timetrick: but where is that option stored? I took the whole .evolution folder from my notebook, where the offline mode was not activated
[11:16] <timetrick> i have no idea
[11:16] <anubhav> JoshuaL: where do you set it in the first place?
[11:16] <alabd> jpds: what type address do you write in username ?
[11:16] <JoshuaL> anubhav, i did set it via terminal: export http_proxy="<proxy info>"
[11:16] <jpds> alabd: My full address.
[11:16] <timetrick> maybe set it to offline again and do a diff?
[11:17] <Stevethepirate> Can anyone here give me a hand with some iptables forwarding? Need to basically port forward local:6112 to external:6112 ... here is a bin of what I have done thusfar.: http://pastebin.com/m7105de96
[11:17] <JoshuaL> i did unset it afterwards with: unset http_proxy, but a reboot undo's the unset..
[11:17] <alabd> jpds: id@live.com
[11:17] <alabd> ?
[11:17] <FuzzyFox0> I am trying to run lampp on ubuntu 9.10 however I am unable to start mysql for some reason any ideas why?
[11:17] <anubhav> JoshuaL: yeah so you can add that line in your .bashrc
[11:18] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: did you add that info in rc.local
[11:18] <timetrick> FuzzyFox0: missing rights?
[11:18] <JoshuaL> anubhav, ok ty
[11:18] <FuzzyFox0> rc.local?
[11:18] <bullgard> !ask | timetrick
[11:18] <anubhav> JoshuaL: np ;)
[11:18] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, faster even! I found the set I want here: http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/fulllist/pdf_generator2_fonts/0.0.1/info/, he he he
[11:18] <jpds> timetrick: Google around for NetworkManager and D-Bus.
[11:18] <alabd> jpds: id@live.com this type ?
[11:18] <FuzzyFox0> timetrick: yes I am the only user
[11:18] <jpds> alabd: Yes.
[11:18] <rumpsy> EmilioTucci: nice
[11:18] <alabd> and would you give server name and port cause here it can not login
[11:19] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy, thanks for the help
[11:19] <EmilioTucci> rumpsy++
[11:19] <alabd> protocol shouldbe MSN yes jpds
[11:19] <jpds> alabd: Yes.
[11:19] <alabd> jpds: server is
[11:19] <alabd> messenger.hotmail.com
[11:19] <alabd> port 1863
[11:19] <jpds> alabd: That should do it.
[11:20] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: how did you installed lampp?
[11:20] <alabd> jpds: do you use that server how about http mode?
[11:20] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: extracted the tar, opened nautilus in root and coppied the whole dir to /opt
[11:20] <jpds> No.
[11:20] <alabd> jpds:  so which server ?
[11:20] <FuzzyFox0> everything else works just not xampp
[11:20] <jpds> alabd: There may be a firewall or something in your way.
[11:21] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: you have to add this info to rc.local to upstart
[11:21] <alabd> jpds: server and port is the same ?
[11:21] <jpds> alabd: What?
[11:21] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: where/what is rc.local
[11:21] <jpds> alabd: I have set up what you've already stated.
[11:21] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: it will be under /etc
[11:21] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: in the lampp dir?
[11:21] <alabd> any other servers and ports jpds
[11:22] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: you have to a single line at the bottom
[11:22] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: you have to add a single line at the bottom
[11:22] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: use this command, sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[11:22] <jpds> alabd: None.
[11:22] <FuzzyFox0> done
[11:22] <FuzzyFox0> what do I need to add
[11:23] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: goto last line
[11:23] <Guest5303> nothing
[11:23] <FuzzyFox0> there is only exit 0 in there
[11:23] <Myrtti> !xampp
[11:23] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: before exit0, place your insertion point
[11:23] <erUSUL> !gksudo | rumpsy
[11:24] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: insertion point? the lampp dir?
[11:24] <Myrtti> why on earth do xampp?
[11:24] <Guest5303> myrtti!
[11:24] <Myrtti> FuzzyFox0: are you doing xampp or lamp?
[11:24] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: bfeore exit0, add this line, /opt/lampp/lampp start
[11:24] <Kerio> hello! im setting up a sever where stability and performance is high prio, ext3 or ext4? ist ext4 stable enough now?
[11:24] <FuzzyFox0> xampp but it is called lampp when using it on, linux
[11:24] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: save it and exit
[11:24] <Myrtti> FyreFoX: why?
[11:25] <Myrtti> FuzzyFox0: why are you using it instead of the normal lamp stack?
[11:25] <Guest5303> Myrtti
[11:25] <Myrtti> FyreFoX: sorry, mistab
[11:25] <erUSUL> Kerio: ext4 then (performance up)
[11:25] <FuzzyFox0> Myrtti: I know it
[11:25] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: Are you there?
[11:25] <FuzzyFox0> I have used it before
[11:25] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: yes
[11:25] <Kerio> erUSUL have you tried ext4 yourself?
[11:25] <FuzzyFox0> done
[11:25] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: did you added those lines
[11:25] <FuzzyFox0> the one line yes
[11:26] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: give a restart :)
[11:26] <Nom-> Hey all... quick question... under KVM, is it possible to display a guest OS in full screen, and will the video performance be better than VMWare Server ... My goal is to have Linux running under the hood, but display Windows for my mum to use the machine as a desktop
[11:26] <FuzzyFox0> the whole system
[11:26] <FuzzyFox0> I will be back in a minute then
[11:26] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: wait
[11:26] <Guest5303> A FuzzyFox0!
[11:26] <erUSUL> Kerio: i have a data parition with it. but it is not a server. is a destop wit music and movies. mostly reads
[11:26] <FuzzyFox0> kk
[11:26] <Myrtti> Guest5303: what?
[11:26] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: what?
[11:26] <Kerio> erUSUL, have you experienced any issues at all?
[11:27] <Guest5303> A MYRTTI WHAT COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM??????????
[11:27] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: okay go :)
[11:27] <erUSUL> Kerio: no; nothng at all. maybe you can ask in #ubuntu-server too
[11:27] <FuzzyFox0> :P
[11:27] <FuzzyFox0> brb
[11:27] <erUSUL> !caps | Guest5303
[11:27] <bazhang> !ot | Guest5303
[11:27] <bazhang> Guest5303, this is for support only. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <Kerio> erUSUL, it's not that serious of a server, its gonna be a counter strike server which i run on ubuntu desktop :)
[11:28] <ffsa> hello. i face a problem with ubuntu
[11:28] <Guest5303> ya ubottu how do i do that????????????????????????????????????????????????
[11:28] <bazhang> Guest5303, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:29] <erUSUL> !ask | ffsa
[11:29] <Guest5303> please my i ask how//??<<
[11:29] <ffsa> when i have compiz enabled, although the system is quite fast, programs make a lot of time to show in the screen when they are minimized into the task bar. my card is HD 2600, with 256mb ram. i don't think that the card is powerless for compiz , i have used compiz with 8400 gs without problems
[11:29] <bazhang> Guest5303, type this:  ---->  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:29] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: no luck
[11:29] <juan__> hi
[11:29] <FuzzyFox0> still not loaded
[11:30] <FuzzyFox0> everything else is
[11:30] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: what is your lammp dir structure?
[11:30] <bullgard> !who | timetrick
[11:30] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: what is your lampp dir structure?
[11:30] <FuzzyFox0> rumpsy: the same as it is in the download straight from apache friends
[11:31] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: tell me the lampp dir structure
[11:31] <FuzzyFox0> kk
[11:31] <FuzzyFox0> one sec
[11:31] <Guest5303> OK sorry People for disterding every one    MY Bad!
[11:31] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Question -- why LAMP?
[11:32] <MenZa> er, the apachefriends distribution*
[11:32] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa I have used it before
[11:32]  * MenZa durrhurs.
[11:32] <rumpsy> MenZa: he likes that
[11:32] <FuzzyFox0> I had to reinstall ubuntu and now it just wont work
[11:32] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Why not use MySQL/Apache/PHP straight from the repositories?
[11:32] <Buzza> How can I qualify for more linux cd/dvd
[11:32] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa no experience with it
[11:33] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, can I shrink a partition which I encrypted with luks?
[11:33] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: I installed it without knowing anything about it; it's working amazingly well. :)
[11:33] <FuzzyFox0> Lampp is pre configured
[11:33] <rumpsy> FuzzyFox0: its more easy, apache and mysql
[11:33] <Buzza> I have used ship it for 1 ubuntu and 1 kubuntu but i won't the kubuntu 9.10 server edition dvd
[11:33] <ikonia> SmokeyD: shrinking a partition is never a good idea, an encypted one, very much not
[11:33] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: The LAMP stack in the repositories is pre-configured too
[11:33] <FuzzyFox0> then how do I set that up?
[11:33] <ikonia> Buzza: there is no kubuntu-server
[11:33] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: I'll guide you through it, if you give me a sec to find some coffee -- hold on :)
[11:33] <Buzza> i won't ubuntu server
[11:33] <FuzzyFox0> thanks
[11:34] <FuzzyFox0> give me a sec to remove lampp
[11:34] <ikonia> Buzza: why ? just disabled the desktop on ubuntu
[11:34] <SmokeyD> ikonia: why is it different with an encrypted one? I have resized many partitions without trouble before, and yes I need to backup, I know
[11:34] <Buzza> no i won't an actual server computer
[11:34] <ikonia> SmokeyD: because the data re-arrangment,
[11:34] <Buzza> I'm planning on having a server client and just my laptop on ubuntu
[11:34] <ikonia> Buzza: you can still run a aserver as a desktop
[11:34] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Alright, I'm back.
[11:35] <FuzzyFox0> one sec
[11:35] <ikonia> Buzza: you can also use the desktop CD to run as a serer, it's very good
[11:35] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Run sudo tasksel -- then select the "LAMP server" and press OK.
[11:35] <ikonia> SmokeyD: try it if you want, see how you get on
[11:35] <FuzzyFox0> kk
[11:35] <FuzzyFox0> give me a sec
[11:35] <Buzza> how
[11:35] <Buzza> ?
[11:35] <ikonia> Buzza: the desktop and server CD's are the same base ubuntu product
[11:35] <ikonia> Buzza: so however you would use "a server", do the same thing on the desktop CD install
[11:35] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Certainly. I have all the time in the world. :)
[11:35] <l3ns> hi everyone
[11:35] <Buzza> I won't to use it as a server for halo on windows
[11:36] <ikonia> Buzza:  anything you can do on the server install you can do on the desktop install
[11:36] <l3ns> i'm experimenting on using ssh with my laptop and desktop. why it keeps saying permission denied when i try to save a file? i'm accessing the file through ssh.
[11:36] <segin> Buzza: The only difference between server and desktop CDs are the software they install; you can convert back and forth betwe3en the two later, no matter which disc originally was used to install.
[11:37] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa okay
[11:37] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Right, did you install the lamp stack yet?
[11:37] <segin> Buzza: Lnux systems (and Ubuntu is included) are open and flexible, not facist a certian flag logo OS
[11:37] <FuzzyFox0> I hit selected lamp then nothing happend
[11:37] <FuzzyFox0> the selection close
[11:37] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: You pressed OK?
[11:37] <rww> segin: no need for silly name calling
[11:38] <FuzzyFox0> I hit enter after selcecting lamp
[11:38] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: In that case, try sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[11:38] <Buzza> though is there a way i can qualify for more cd's?
[11:38] <FuzzyFox0> now it is installing MenZa
[11:38] <MenZa> Buzza: On ShipIt you mean?
[11:38] <Buzza> what if i make themes wallpapers is there a way i can trade them for dvd's
[11:38] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Perfect. :)
[11:38] <Buzza> yeah
[11:39] <rww> Buzza: Become an Ubuntu Member, or ask your local community team.
[11:39] <MenZa> Buzza: Try e-mailing shipit@ubuntu.com about that, specifying exactly WHY you need more than one CD.
[11:39] <Buzza> shipit.ubuntu
[11:39] <MenZa> However, you should, as rww says, contact your LoCo team first.
[11:39] <Buzza> I ordered 1 ubuntu and 1 kubuntu
[11:39] <kolby> if I'm using a netbook with and "Atom" processor architecture, should I use amd64 or x86 packages?
[11:39] <Buzza> so only 2 but i could do with a 3rd server edition
[11:39] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa done
[11:40] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Gimme a sec
[11:40] <FuzzyFox0> k
[11:40] <Buzza> thanks guyz
[11:40] <rww> kolby: All Atoms work with x86. Some work with amd64 also.
[11:41] <kolby> rww, thank you.
[11:44] <rumpsy> silence maintained
[11:44] <cryptk|work> I can break the silence
[11:44] <rumpsy> :P lol
[11:45] <cryptk|work> I have a mouse that works great in windows, used to work great in ubuntu... had a HD fail, replaced it, reinstalled windows and ubuntu.... mouse freezes up in ubuntu
[11:45] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa: so i am guessing I have a mysql db and php5
[11:45] <cryptk|work> any ideas?
[11:45] <cryptk|work> unfortunately I am at work now so i am just hoping for some people to list off things I can try or test, or required information that I can gather up once I get home
[11:45] <FuzzyFox0> and that the htdocs folder is now /var/www
[11:46] <cryptk|work> I tried adding 'acpi=force irqpoll' to the kernel line in grub (which is supposed to fix it) but when i do taht ubuntu doesn't boot properly
[11:46] <Stevethepirate> Can anyone here give me some help with iptables? Having a problem with --destination-port or -dport paramater.
[11:46] <rumpsy> cryptk|work: sorry :( i'm not that much familiar
[11:46] <cryptk|work> it shows the white ubuntu logo, then when it is supposed to change to the loading bar it instead go's to a black screen with a blinking _ in the top left corner...
[11:47] <cryptk|work> Stevethepirate: have you tried using something easier like firestarter? or do you have a specific need to work with iptables directly?
[11:47] <Stevethepirate> The machine I am working on is a server quite far away.
[11:47] <Stevethepirate> And should firestarter kill my ssh connection.
[11:47] <Stevethepirate> Going in locally will be a mission
[11:47] <Jimi_Neutral> having a major problem with my resolv.conf file. it keeps losing everything that is in it and i cant connect to the internet...everytime i reboot the machine i have to go in and put the nameservers in again and then restart networking
[11:48] <Stevethepirate> Last time I installed firestarter on a server, it added a REJECT ALL rule as a default ;/
[11:48] <cryptk|work> Stevethepirate: firestarter is a front end gui so it wouldn't help if you are SSHing in
[11:48] <Stevethepirate> I know what firestarter is.
[11:48] <Spanglish_7776> Jimi, are you using dhcp to aquire an IP address?
[11:48] <Stevethepirate> But as a default it adds some "not-so-nice-rules" ;/
[11:48] <cryptk|work> hrm...
[11:49] <randompie> q
[11:49] <rumpsy> !iptables
[11:49] <cryptk|work> not sure, I don't do iptables manually
[11:49] <Stevethepirate> Heh.
[11:49] <cryptk|work> I just haven't ever had a need... but the link that ubottu has may work
[11:49] <Stevethepirate> I've used most of those already ;/
[11:50] <l3ns> i'm experimenting on using ssh with my laptop and desktop. why it keeps saying permission denied when i try to save a file? i'm accessing the file through ssh.
[11:51] <cryptk|work> l3ns: are you trying to save the file to somewhere that the account you are using doesn't have permissions to?
[11:51] <rumpsy> brb
[11:51] <ct529> hi! is it possible to remotely control a *ubuntu desktop from another *ubuntu computer?
[11:52] <cryptk|work> yes
[11:52] <l3ns> cryptk|work, I'm saving the file on the mounted drive.
[11:52] <Spanglish_7776> ct, yea
[11:52] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: I'm afraid I'm going to have to run out -- check out this resource (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP), set a MySQL root password, and test if it's working with a phpinfo.php file in /var/www -- I'm sorry :(
[11:52] <cryptk|work> l3ns: does the account you are using to log in have permissions to that location?
[11:52] <Spanglish_7776> preferences > remote desktop
[11:52] <Spanglish_7776> it's a vnc server.
[11:52] <l3ns> cryptk|work, yep i'm the owner/root
[11:52] <cryptk|work> if you were to log in on the destination computer using that account, can you save things there?
[11:53] <cryptk|work> l3ns: are you SSHing in as root?
[11:53] <cryptk|work> ubuntu by default has the root account disabled, you would need to use sudo to get "root permissions"
[11:53] <l3ns> cryptk|work, yes, i'm ssh'ng as root
[11:53] <Spanglish_7776> if you can't ssh as root and you have sudo you can do that also.
[11:53] <cryptk|work> is the root account on the destination computer enabled?
[11:54] <l3ns> cryptk|work, i tried sudo gedit filename and able to edit the file, but not saving it
[11:54] <cryptk|work> hrm...
[11:54] <l3ns> same problem for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sshfs-fuse/+bug/123501
[11:56] <jiohdi> I have remote desktop installed... I can control computer X with Y, but I only get the very first screen and from there the screen does not update...anyone?
[11:57] <Noex> ;]
[11:57] <Noex> Hi all
[11:57] <jiohdi> I can reverse this so that I can control Y with X but same thing, no screen updating
[11:57] <ct529> Spanglish_7776: preferences?
[11:57] <jiohdi> anyone else run into this and know how to fix?
[11:58] <Spanglish_7776> ct, for remote desktop?
[11:58] <jiohdi> ct?
[11:58] <Spanglish_7776> ct529*
[11:58] <jiohdi> what is that?
[11:58] <Spanglish_7776> (06:57:19 AM) ct529: Spanglish_7776: preferences?
[11:59] <Spanglish_7776> jiohdi, I can't say i've had that issue, screen not refreshing.
[11:59] <Spanglish_7776> same subnet?
[12:00] <jiohdi> same router, side by side
[12:00] <Spanglish_7776> have you tried a different client?
[12:00] <jiohdi> suggestions?
[12:01] <Spanglish_7776> on 9.10 I use remote desktop viewer, works great.
[12:02] <jiohdi> that is what I am using, having the problem
[12:02] <Spanglish_7776> hmm..
[12:02] <jiohdi> I am using remote desktop server on both ends
[12:03] <jiohdi> it connects fine, I can move the mouse on either machine from the other, just no screen refresh
[12:05] <Spanglish_7776> joihdi, I'm wondering if you have view only mode on...
[12:05] <Spanglish_7776> jiohdi*
[12:05] <jiohdi> it is checked for allow others to view and allow others to control
[12:06] <jiohdi> there are not that many settings on the client
[12:06] <jiohdi> or server
[12:06] <Jimi_Neutral> anyone know where i would find drivers for the compaq dx2000
[12:06] <Jimi_Neutral> linux drivers that is
[12:06] <bullgard> What is the function of /lib/ld-2.10.1.so?
[12:06] <Spanglish_7776> when you connect, you should get an option to view only. be sure it's not checked.
[12:07] <jiohdi> Spanglish_7776: view only would be the opposite condition... refresh but no control
[12:07] <Noex> FUCK OFF
[12:07] <Noex> FUCK OFF
[12:07] <FloodBot4> Noex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:08] <Spanglish_7776> gotcha. odd
[12:08] <sebsebseb> !language | Noex
[12:08] <Noex> Fuck we
[12:08] <Noex> ;d
[12:08] <rumpsy> i want every ubuntu release to look like 8.04
[12:08] <Noex> kakvo iskash be
[12:08] <Noex> kaun :]
[12:08] <FloodBot4> Noex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <sebsebseb> bazhang: :)
[12:10] <fdlinux> hi all
[12:10] <Spanglish_7776> hi
[12:10] <rumpsy> creeper
[12:10] <fdlinux> got a question for ubuntu 9.10
[12:10] <Spanglish_7776> shoot.
[12:10] <fdlinux> i have a script for dns updating
[12:10] <sebsebseb> fdlinux: just ask
[12:11] <fdlinux> and in that script i want to $wanip
[12:11] <fdlinux> how can i set $wanip to show the result of a script
[12:11] <faheem_> hi anyone have any ideas how to use my iphone with ubuntu
[12:11] <fdlinux> i have don't it couple of years ago , but forgot it
[12:12] <faheem_> hi anyone have any ideas how to use my iphone with ubuntu
[12:12] <sebsebseb> faheem_: easiest and probably the best thing ot do, if you got enough RAM and such, would be to run a Windows virtual machine for it
[12:12] <Spanglish_7776> you want the result of a script to be assigned to $wanip fdlinux?
[12:12] <fdlinux> so that comand $time  results script wanip
[12:12] <fdlinux> yes
[12:12] <fdlinux> $wanip i mean
[12:13] <faheem_> sebsebseb, i have, but i dont wanna download an entire windows iso :/
[12:13] <faheem_> hi anyone have any ideas how to use my iphone with ubuntu
[12:13] <sebsebseb> faheem_: you can't just use an iphone with Ubuntu or any other Linux distro
[12:13] <sebsebseb> faheem_: since Apple do not support Desktop Linux
[12:14] <faheem_> sebsebseb, .... life sucks :(
[12:14] <faheem_> sebsebseb, any idea if theirs a jailbreak software for ubuntu?
[12:14] <sebsebseb> faheem_: well that's one way to probably get it working, but shoudn't really do that, since as far as I know it will brake your Apple warranty for example
[12:15] <DysonReturns> greets guys. i need somekind of process that continously watches a folder and does actions on the files therein. this needs to be one process, therefore it can't be a cronjob. is there a word for such a thing?
[12:15] <fdlinux> sebsebseb: you know what i mean?
[12:15] <DysonReturns> or do i need to do some clever bashing to see whether the one script is still busy or not.
[12:15] <faheem_> sebsebseb, wats ur way his warranty isnt worth it
[12:16] <jrib> DysonReturns: use incron
[12:17] <faheem_> its due to issue's like this ubuntu suffers with the average user :/
[12:17] <thulsa> hey folks, is there some sort of way to update my package downloading sources to include more recent versions than what i'm seeing in the package manager?
[12:17] <thulsa> i'm not sure if my terminology is anywhere near correct :D
[12:17] <sebsebseb> faheem_:  fdlinux  I don't have an Iphone,  I have just read some stuff.  Also it's better to buy more open hardware,  an Android Phone for example.
[12:18] <faheem_> sebsebseb, unfortunatly as far andorid kinda sucks :)
[12:18] <Myrtti> thulsa: ubuntu isn't a rolling release distro, the updates to packages are done on each release every six months, apart from security updates. There are some methods to update specific packages, are you after something specific?
[12:19] <chetnick> faheem_:  compared to what?
[12:19] <faheem_> chetnick, to iphone...
[12:19] <bazhang> !ot
[12:19] <faheem_> wonder nexus one will be kewl :/
[12:19] <thulsa> Myrtti: well, i was looking at audacious, but the provided .deb isn't the 2.2 release... it's still, i think it was 1.7 or soemthing
[12:19] <sebsebseb> faheem_:  fdlinux   I know this jail brake stuff is pretty common knowledge now days that it can be done, there has been stuff in the media about it.  However as far as I know it's still not meant to be done,  and not just, because someones Apple warranty might brake as a result.
[12:20] <Myrtti> thulsa: you're on jaunty or something older?
[12:21] <thulsa> i've recently re-installed, but in my original install someone had provided me with some more software sources to plug into the package manager
[12:21] <Jimi_Neutral> can someone help me to install some drivers for 9.10 on a dx2000
[12:21] <thulsa> Myrtti: aye, jaunty
[12:21] <Jimi_Neutral> intel graphics drivers
[12:21] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, drivers for what
[12:21] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, from the xorg-edgers PPA?
[12:21] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, intel gfx.....its confusing the hell outta me
[12:21] <rumpsy> i donno what is dx2000
[12:22] <Jimi_Neutral> compaq dx2000
[12:22] <Myrtti> thulsa: karmic has 2.1 though.
[12:22] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, install from where specifically.
[12:22] <Spanglish_7776> fdlinux, I sent you a message
[12:22] <progre55> hi people! I'm sharing my internet connection through auth0, the ethernet cable. Is it possible to somehow limit the bandwidth for auth0, so that the other comp. wouldnt be able to consume all my bandwidth?
[12:22] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, i have no idea, i used to be a windows user, this is new to me
[12:22] <thulsa> ah, so my software sources are also limited by having a lower release?
[12:23] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, you wish to install which drivers? what card do you have and what version of ubuntu are you on
[12:23] <sebsebseb> faheem_: Buy supported by Linux hardware, or get issue's, it's as simple as that.
[12:23] <Myrtti> thulsa: as I said, the packages are updated by every release, so you get newer software with newer release
[12:23] <theadmin> Something way creepy just happened. System froze, REISUB or Ctrl+Alt+F1 or similar NOT working, Caps Lock and Scroll Lock lamps blinking, what the?
[12:23] <Myrtti> theadmin: kernel panic
[12:23] <rumpsy> theadmin: hey o/
[12:23] <rumpsy> but time to move now:)
[12:24] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, i have a compaq dx2000, im on 9.10 and the card is intel on board, but i am having trouble finding out what one exactly, i downloaded a gnome device manager but ut just tells me it is intel
[12:24] <theadmin> Myrtti: o_O What could possibly cause it... was doing nothing related to system that closely, just modifying /etc/hosts a bit.
[12:24] <chetnick> Jimi_Neutral: sudo lspci -vv
[12:24] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, please inform the channel of your specific model and what particular issues you are having.
[12:25] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, i am having trouble finding the model because the gnome device wont tell me and the issue is i need to download and install the drivers
[12:25] <Myrtti> theadmin: it's hard to tell. I had kernel panic yesterday and haven't figured out myself either what caused it
[12:25] <bazhang> Jimi_Neutral, try lspci in the terminal
[12:25] <Myrtti> Jimi_Neutral: if you've got an intel card, it's likely that you already have the best possible drivers in your use. what makes you think you need to download and install them?
[12:26] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, yerah just looking at that
[12:26] <theadmin> Myrtti: That's dangerous right?
[12:26] <Jimi_Neutral> Myrtti, cause it doesnt look like the other box that is on the same hardware
[12:26] <thulsa> Myrtti: interesting, i had no idea. i figured access to software would be something that wasn't limited to what release you were using... but then, i guess with the way that .deb packages work (i'm new to linux and just starting to understand everything)
[12:26] <secret> Anyone know how to create a transparent panel over cairo dock so that I don't have a huge black square on the bottom of the screen?
[12:26] <Jimi_Neutral> bazhang, 82865G Intergrated GFX Controller
[12:27] <thulsa> Myrtti: but thank you for taking a moment :)
[12:28] <Myrtti> theadmin: again, hard to tell
[12:29] <chetnick> Jimi_Neutral: when you run "sudo lspci -k" you will see driver in use.
[12:30] <cmp> how to go to compiz room ?
[12:30] <chetnick> Jimi_Neutral: if no driver or module is listed, than you will need a driver.
[12:30] <Jimi_Neutral> chetnick, kernel driver in us: i915
[12:31] <cmp> i want to joiin the compiz room,  how to do it ?
[12:31] <chetnick> Jimi_Neutral: so you are good to go.
[12:31] <chetnick> Jimi_Neutral: no need to install.
[12:31] <Jimi_Neutral> ok
[12:31] <Johnny1> How do I install iTunes on Ubuntu 9.10?
[12:31] <SlimG> How do I launch the dialoguebox that offers to translate the foldernames of ~/Desktop, ~/Documents etc. to my local language equivalent?
[12:31] <sebsebseb> Johnny1: you don't
[12:32] <sebsebseb> Johnny1: you can run it in a Windows virtual machine though, with enough RAM and such
[12:32] <chetnick> Johnny1: you will need older version of iTunes and install through wine.
[12:32] <Johnny1> chetnick: How old?
[12:32] <chetnick> Johnny1: what is the current version?
[12:32] <Johnny1> 9.0.3.15
[12:33] <Jimi_Neutral> Chetic, cool ty
[12:33] <Johnny1> chetnick: 9.0.3.15
[12:33] <Cyboth> hey guys, is there an easy way for me to dual boot ubuntu and windows, I currently have ubuntu netbook remix 9.10 installed and would like to have a dual boot WinXP
[12:34] <chetnick> Johnny1: it looks like wine supports now newer versions than before. I thinks 9.02 is the latest they support. Here is the link for more info.
[12:34] <chetnick> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[12:34] <cmp> guide me how to go to compiz room please
[12:34] <DJones> !dualboot | Cyboth
[12:34] <Cyboth> thanks!
[12:35] <chetnick> cmp: what is "compiz room" ?
[12:35] <theadmin> chetnick: He probably means compiz channel
[12:36] <progre55> can anyone please help me out? I'm sharing my internet connection through auth0, the ethernet cable. Is it possible to somehow limit the bandwidth for auth0, so that the other comp. wouldnt be able to use up all my bandwidth?
[12:36] <DJones> Cyboth: You'll need to free up space on your hard drive by resizing you ubuntu partions, then install windows and then reconfigure your grub, its normally easier to install windows first, then ubuntu, but it can be done the other way round.  Make sure you've got backups of anything you need to save from your ubuntu partition before resizing just in case something goes wrong
[12:38] <fohos_> hello guys, how do u move a directory mv -r dir?
[12:38] <Machtin> if i buy a x-fi titanium.. will there be any trouble? or better: do i have to expect any trouble?
[12:38] <chetnick> progre55: try Wondershaper.
[12:38] <jrib> fohos_: just mv
[12:39] <A> How to create keyboard layout for non-unicode font ?
[12:39] <progre55> chetnick: thanks
[12:39] <A> and Add this layout to my ubuntu
[12:39] <fohos_> 10x jrib
[12:40] <chetnick> progre55: look at "trickle" too.
[12:41] <chetnick> Machtin: i have no clue what is x-fi titanium.
[12:42] <tominglis> hi, i just installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop, and gnome-panel doesn't load on startup
[12:42] <tominglis> does anyone know how to fix that?
[12:42] <tominglis> it did load until just now, when i removed a few programs and edited the main menu
[12:44] <chetnick> A: creating custom keyboard layout, can be complicated.
[12:44] <l3ns> same problem for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sshfs-fuse/+bug/123501
[12:44] <l3ns> i'm experimenting on using ssh with my laptop and desktop. why it keeps saying permission denied when i try to save a file? i'm accessing the file through ssh.
[12:45] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[12:45] <tominglis> (i removed gnome-games-common, rhythmbox, gnome-pilot, ubuntu-one-client)
[12:45] <theadmin> l3ns: Do you have full 6 or 7 permissions to the file?
[12:45] <chetnick> l3ns: you have no permission to save the file.
[12:46] <l3ns> yes
[12:46] <chetnick> l3ns: check folder permissions.
[12:46] <progre55> chetnick: cool man, appreciate. wondershaper seems to be really simple =)
[12:46] <chetnick> progre55: anytime.
[12:46] <l3ns> chetnick, what specific folder?
[12:47] <chetnick> l3ns: the folder in which you are trying to save the file.
[12:48] <l3ns> chetnick, okay. folder access: create and delete files, group: access files, others: access files
[12:49] <soreau> cmp: /j #compiz
[12:52] <Johnny1> Does anyone know how to enable usb on virtualbox?
[12:53] <iceroot> Johnny1: use the nonfree-version and add your user to the vboxuser group
[12:53] <theadmin> Johny1: You'll have to use the official Sun (Oracle?) release.
[12:53] <theadmin> ...oh he left
[12:54] <Aluado> hi there, I'm getting a error using skype on ubuntu 9.10... it starts, but I can't have any sound.
[12:57] <blinkiz> Hi. Am looking for a command where I can see hardware information. Like CPU, memory, disks and so on. What is the command?
[12:57] <psycho_oreos> lshw
[12:57] <theadmin> blinkiz: try lshw and lspci
[12:57] <bazhang> blinkiz, sudo lshw
[12:57] <blinkiz> theadmin, No, it's not the one am looking for
[12:57] <blinkiz> Whit this command, is possible to see which memory slots is allocated in a machine
[12:58] <iceroot> blinkiz: cat /proc/meminfo
[12:58] <blinkiz> iceroot, No, that is only memory info. Not hardware info
[12:58] <Aluado> blinkiz, cat /proc/cpuinfo for cpu
[12:59] <iceroot> blinkiz: then use hwinfo or cat with the /proc-files
[12:59] <blinkiz> Am looking for a command to see manufacture information for example my memory modules. I have forgot the command.
[12:59] <Aluado> blinkiz, it depends what do you want, there is no a command for everything
[12:59] <Aluado> well... I dont know one
[12:59] <Aluado> blinkiz, lsmod?
[13:00] <blinkiz> Aluado, No, not hardware
[13:00] <iceroot> blinkiz: hwinfo
[13:00] <jiohdi> I have remote desktop installed... I can control computer X with Y, but I only get the very first screen and from there the screen does not update...could this be because of nvidia?
[13:01] <fif0> hey guys...i want to edit $PATH without root...how can i do is...export PATH=/path/to/blah:$PATH is just for one bash
[13:01] <theadmin> fif0: Edit ~/.profile, relogin
[13:01] <jrib> fif0: what do you mean, "just for one bash"?
[13:02] <fif0> if i start a new bach, my path isn't changed
[13:02] <blinkiz> Now I found the command. dmidecode !
[13:02] <theadmin> fif0: Look at above. Edit ~/.profile, and log out, then log back in
[13:02] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[13:03] <fif0> this direktory doesn't exists
[13:03] <blinkiz> Thanks iceroot , theadmin, Aluado and bazhang. The command I was looking for was dmidecode. Whit this command, I can see manufacture information for my ram modules for example.
[13:03] <theadmin> fif0: what directory!? It's a file
[13:04] <theadmin> fif0: Just go to terminal, run gedit ~/.profile
[13:04] <Aluado> blinkiz, ok
[13:04] <obiwan_> i wonder, when you copy without following symlinks, do symlinks copied into the new filesystem point to the new inode of the real file?
[13:04] <Aluado> blinkiz, thanks for the feedback :)
[13:04] <fif0> okay, thanks
[13:05] <theadmin> fif0: Add the path there as needed, log out and back in. Will do it
[13:05] <fif0> opkay
[13:06] <obiwan_> i mean, let's say i got a symlink and a real file, and i copy both without the following symlink option, so will the symlink in the new filesystem point correctly to the inode of the inode of the file in the new filesystem? or to the inode it was pointing in the old filesystem?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  try it and see what it does :)
[13:07] <iceroot> blinkiz: good to know, thx
[13:08] <fabstermaster> hiiii
[13:08] <fabstermaster> Guys I have a dell mini 9 and my sd card reader is not workin in karmic. Help,anyone? Thanks.
[13:08] <you_katan> where I can ask question about VirtualBox in Ubuntu?
[13:09] <obiwan_> ok Dr_Willis i'll resize my disk :( xD
[13:09] <tominglis> hi, gnome-panel doesn't load up on startup on ubuntu 9.10, does anyone know what i can do to fix it?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  you COULD test with some smaller test files to see eactly what happens to answer your question
[13:09] <theadmin> you_katan: #vbox
[13:09] <coz_> fabstermaster,  I am not great with sound issues  however when you open a terminal  and type    alsamixer    is the card listed at the top?  and also are the volume sliders  up ?
[13:09] <you_katan> thanks
[13:10] <fabstermaster> sorry coz i meant my sd card reader not sound card
[13:10] <erkangur> hi, i have problem on my ubuntu9.04...  I accidentaly removed /var/lib/dpkg directory. then I create the files and directories again. But I cant download packages any more. dpkg: unrecoverable fatal error, aborting:  syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statoverride file
[13:10] <erkangur> I get this error
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> fabstermaster:  some of those sd slots in varioys netbooks need to have some options/tweaks done to work properly. I would suggest checking the ubuntu netbook forums on that exact netbook
[13:11] <coz_> fabstermaster,  oh  sorry here too...I misunderstood
[13:11] <theadmin> erkangur: How on earth could you ACCIDENTALLY remove that?! Ahem, sorry.
[13:11] <fabstermaster> thanks willy and coz. Ill ask there
[13:11] <fohos_> guys , if I wanna compile a program and the OS is BSD do I need to download the linux tar, or just the source.tar
[13:11] <kermit```> Dear all, where can I download the ubuntu-9.04-server-i386-dvd.iso? My new server can't install the network when I install the new system, so I cannot use apt-get to download. I need a dvd version which included most the software which I can used to compile and install the network driver. For example, kernel-source, gcc and so on.
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> kermit```:  the dvd version dosent include those as far as i know
[13:12] <erkangur> theadmin: When I try to remove /var/lib/dpkg/lock file , ... :s
[13:12] <iceroot> fohos_: wrong channel
[13:12] <theadmin> erkangur: Oh... I see :D Sorry.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> fohos_:  linux is not bsd.. so try the source.,  then try the linux one..
[13:12] <kermit```> Oh,  my god
[13:12] <erkangur> theadmin: Do you know how to reinstall dpkg?
[13:13] <theadmin> erkangur: I don't know any ways to install apps without using dpkg unless you compile it from source.
[13:13] <cryptk|work> erkangur: check out this link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1281525.html
[13:13] <cryptk|work> they have some stuff in there, but I think you may need to do a reconfigure -a (that is covered in that post)
[13:14] <cryptk|work> but read the whole post before you do a reconfigure
[13:14] <tominglis> hi, gnome-panel doesn't load up on startup on ubuntu 9.10, does anyone know what i can do to fix it?
[13:14] <erkangur> cryptk|work: ok I 'm reading, thanks
[13:14] <cryptk|work> erkangur: please note, I have never attempted that so I don't know if it will work
[13:15] <Chr|s> wow, screensaver just froze up and couldn't get back to login screen. I had to continually press buttons
[13:15] <fwaokda> I have a laptop 1.3ghz, 4gb ram.  Will I get better performance from running Ubuntu 32bit or 64bit as guest (win7 host) in virtualbox ?
[13:15] <Tek-5-8-6> Ok, I just set up and configured thr RAID in the BIOS but when ubuntu 9.10 gets to the Prepare partitions section no drives show up in the menue
[13:15] <Tek-5-8-6> Maybe Ubuntu did not install the RAID driver initaly ?
[13:16] <chetnick> fwaokda: i dont think it would be noticable difference.
[13:17] <lao5> .h
[13:18] <Pupeno> Any idea how to make unnatended upgrades actually upgrade the installed packages?
[13:18] <cryptk|work> Tek-5-8-6: are you using the desktop install disk or the alternate>
[13:18] <cryptk|work> Tek-5-8-6: I had to use the alternate when installing on my RAID setup... I don't think the desktop disk has any/all of the raid drivers, but try the alternate disk and see if it works, it has much more RAID support built in
[13:19] <Tek-5-8-6> the normal desktop CD
[13:19] <cryptk|work> yeah, try the alternate, that is what I needed for my RAID
[13:19] <Tek-5-8-6> I have the alternate CD already downloaded. Should I use that instead ?
[13:19] <Guest5376> when will ubuntu10.4 be release?
[13:19] <chetnick> Pupeno: i think there is a tool called unattended-upgrades
[13:19] <Tesssa> April
[13:19] <cryptk|work> Guest5376: April
[13:19] <Tek-5-8-6> Ahh nice ok, I will try this now
[13:19] <cryptk|work> the 4 is the month number
[13:19] <scunizi> Guest5376: the answer is in the release number
[13:19] <cryptk|work> 9.10 came out in... October...
[13:20] <obiwan_> sry Dr_Willis i was resizing, i haven't enough space, please w8 i'll report the results
[13:20] <Pupeno> chetnick: Yes, I know, I have it installed and configured, it doesn't do anything.
[13:20] <cryptk|work> the first number is the year btw
[13:20] <ZykoticK9> Guest5376, 79 days from today
[13:20] <cryptk|work> the version numbers are actually the release dates
[13:20] <theadmin> I can tell when 20.04 be released :D
[13:20] <theadmin> If it will that is
[13:20] <stuarticus> Hi, anyone have experience of 360 wireless pad with usb charging cable in karmic? I'm having no luck...
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Hi Folks
[13:20] <pirx> hi! how do i fix unresolver dependencies with apt? i try to install wireshark and i get this: http://pastebin.com/d206025e9  (i upgraded the package tsm-client a few days ago, but apparently there are some problems). when i try to do "apt-get -f install" it tells me that it will remove tsm-client, which is not a very good option for me
[13:22] <scunizi> pirx: are you on a 64bit system?
[13:22] <theadmin> pirx: tsm-client conflicts with whatever you're installing. Bad deal. You either have to remove it or don't install whatever you're trying to
[13:22] <chetnick> pirx: that is weird, try installing ia32-libs and libpcap first.
[13:23] <pirx> scunizi: yes 64bit
[13:24] <joerg_> hi
[13:24] <scunizi> pirx: try what chetnick said..
[13:24] <thebomb> hi there
[13:24] <stuarticus> Pad shows up in lsusb, nothing in /dev/input though. Should it load automatically?
[13:25] <Oli``> Anybody else here have a Gigabyte X58A-UD7? If so have you tried to flash the bios? Every time I try (from the bios and flashbios in Ubuntu) it says the image is a mismatch
[13:26] <pirx> i still get "tsm-client: Depends: ia32-libs (>= 2.4) but 2.2ubuntu11.2 is to be installed" with whatever i try to install. hmm.
[13:26] <pirx> is the only option going back to the old tsm-client?
[13:28] <bambang-pc> hello
[13:28] <frankS2> hi
[13:29] <waltercool> bambang-pc: hallo
[13:29] <frankS2> Hi, my VPS providern doesnt support Ubuntu, only CENTOS, is it possible to install Ubuntu from CENTOS and directly boot into it later?
[13:29] <bambang-pc> can somebody help me .. i'm newbie on ubuntu .. a have thousand question about abuntu
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> bambang-pc:  ask away
[13:29] <chetnick> bambang-pc: google.com
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> bambang-pc:  we can always point you to docs/guides/wiki pages if nothing else
[13:30] <scunizi> first rules of irc.. don't beg.. and ask a question.. don't ask to ask
[13:30] <bambang-pc> i dont understand most of them
[13:30] <bambang-pc> i have tried to searching on google
[13:31] <bambang-pc> first.. i want to know the rules to join this chat rooms
[13:31] <chetnick> frankS2: i wish i knew what you mean.
[13:31] <stuarticus> Hi, anyone have experience of 360 wireless pad with usb charging cable in karmic? I'm having no luck...
[13:31] <scunizi> !ask | bambang-pc
[13:31] <chetnick> bambang-pc: it in the topic.
[13:31] <scunizi> !coc | bambang-pc
[13:33] <panfist_> i've replaced a windows share with a samba server share; now whenever windows clients try to access files on the share, they are warned that the files on the host may not be secure...does anyone know how to fix this behavior?
[13:33] <vargadanis> hello everyone... I got some problems with Audio playback with KDE on 9.10. Once it works and once it doesn't and all I get is static noise... I get a message that analog audio output doesn't work falling back to pulse audio
[13:33] <hashimi> when i mount my usb in linux and then goto windows. in windows part it has character problems. how i can solve this.
[13:33] <vargadanis> any tips why? or how to fix that?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  its some windoes setting. i noticed a similer thing when i accessed my shares via IP instead of hostname for some odd reason
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  any time you try to copy/move/access it gives some annoying dialog?
[13:34] <chetnick> hashimi: do you unmount clean usb before going to windows?
[13:34] <panfist_> dr_willis yes!
[13:34] <scunizi> vargadanis: try "killall pulseaudio" in a terminal
[13:34] <panfist_> it happens when i access by ip, should i access by name?
[13:35] <panfist_> i dont know why that should make a difference
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  windows security being paranoid.  as i said i saw it a week or 5 ago name worked.. no nagging.. ip nagged
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  ask MS. :)
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  the name technically comes from the 'wins' server i guess..  so ms considers it safer
[13:35] <panfist_> hum
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  i am guessing
[13:35] <vargadanis> scunizi, trying it :)
[13:35] <panfist_> well the samba server is the wins server...so...it's the same safetyness
[13:35] <hashimi> chetnick i just do this : mount -o iocharset=utf8 /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  tell it to ms. :)
[13:36] <hashimi> and then i goto windows part.
[13:36] <hashimi> what i must do else?
[13:36] <vargadanis> scunizi, wow that worked! :)
[13:36] <vargadanis> scunizi, have you met this problem before?
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  i just edit my hosts and set the hostname/ips to be the same so i dont even se the wins stuff i think
[13:36] <waltercool> bambang-pc: Rule 1: #ubuntu is not off-topic ;)
[13:36] <panfist_> what do you mean, "edit my hosts and set the hostname/ips to be the same"
[13:36] <scunizi> vargadanis: in one form or another for several years.. use to be killall alsa,, now it's pulseaudio
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  the hosts file
[13:37] <panfist_> ahh
[13:37] <chetnick> hashimi: is it usb stick or usb drive?
[13:37] <panfist_> on each individual client?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  but if the pc's change ip and you dont notice it - the hosts file pointing ot the wrong ip can really confuse things
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  thas how i set up my home lan of 4 pc's - identical hosts file on each one - seemed to help out my samba quirks a lot
[13:38] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[13:38] <chetnick> hashimi: i think you have to do mount -t vfat ... most of usb stick are fat filesystem.
[13:38] <CyL> Any good tutorial about working multi head with linux (ubuntu)?
[13:38] <vargadanis> scunizi, hehe :) I'll make a script to do it for me every once in a while :) that's pathetic
[13:38] <panfist_> figuring out how to get wins nailed down will probably be a better dynamic solution
[13:38] <panfist_> but its good to know there's a fallback if it refuses to work
[13:38] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  just using 2 monitors ? or you want a true multi-seat system  with 2 users using same pc at same time with 2 different monitors/keyboard/mice?
[13:39] <Younder> Can't seem to find syslogd.conf in the man pages. Is there a .deb pakage I can install?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  from what i read on usign 'wins' - it confused me. :) heh
[13:39] <CyL> Dr_Willis: just two monitors...
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  depends on your video card to some degree
[13:39] <scunizi> vargadanis: doesn't happen on all systems.. just seems to be a quirky combo of hardware and software that brings this about.  sometimes it's a program that leaves something lying around that causes it.
[13:39] <CyL> Dr_Willis: intel 945gm
[13:39] <Chr|s> Ok, I just had to restart now since the screensaver wouldn't go away and take me to the login screen, any ideas why its doing that?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  on my intel netbook. I pluged in 2nd monitor. used the res/display settng tool in the menus.. and set them up.. done. :)
[13:40] <Gangrel> how can i mount the other hdds i have permanently without typing root password everytime ? (ubuntu 9.10)
[13:40] <indus> Dr_Willis, hello
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  on the netbook i do think i had to select the monitor button a few times to turn on both
[13:40] <vargadanis> scunizi, I wish I knew how to find that out
[13:40] <indus> Gangrel, adding them to the /etc/fstab
[13:40] <chetnick> Gangrel: add them to /etc/fstab
[13:40] <vargadanis> scunizi, maybe I could even help KDE devers to fix pulse audio :)
[13:40] <chetnick> i hate pulseaudio.
[13:40] <scunizi> vargadanis: go for it.
[13:40] <vargadanis> scunizi, instead I am stuck at the level of killall and saying nasty things how pathetic it is :)
[13:41] <bullgard> '~$ man tilda; ...; -c, --command; Run a command at startup.' How to express 'command' syntactically as the pressing of the key combination Ctrl+Shift+T?
[13:41] <hashimi> chetnick; Thanks for help. I will try mount -t vfat . and yes it is usb stick.
[13:41] <vargadanis> scunizi, well I have no idea how but I'll contact some KDE gurus.. I am sure they will help me
[13:41] <scunizi> vargadanis: you're one of the few..
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  a command is a shell command..
[13:41] <vargadanis> scunizi, one of the few of whom?
[13:41] <scunizi> vargadanis: ask in #kde or #kubuntu
[13:42] <chetnick> hashimi: make sure before you take out the stick, do unmount /mnt/flashdrive
[13:42] <Younder> never mind, found it in  inetutils-syslogd
[13:42] <chetnick> or whereever you mounted
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  like tilda --command 'mc'
[13:42] <scunizi> vargadanis: one of the few who have an issue like this
[13:42] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: Your remark is not the answer to my question.
[13:42] <fif0> taste my penis
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  how about it cant be done.
[13:42] <vargadanis> scunizi, yup... i'll do that as soon as I got some time... right now I am sooo in the middle of the work :) BTW... KDE is getting quite usable for work :) I am pleased with that
[13:42] <CyL> Dr_Willis: plugging the monitor on my netbook hangs up my computer..
[13:43] <scunizi> vargadanis: yep
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> ctrl-shift t is not  command.. so not sure what you are trying to do exactly
[13:43] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  try plugging it in befor you power up perhaps. sounds like an intel driver bug to me
[13:43] <cmp> hi, iam using ubuntu Xfce , is there any command which can allow me to change this Version ?
[13:43] <hashimi> Chetnick; when did mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb it gives error: mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt/usb failed: No such file or directory
[13:43] <chetnick> hashimi: does /mnt/usb directory exist?
[13:44] <hashimi> yes it exist
[13:44] <chetnick> hashimi: and make sure /dev/sda1 exist.
[13:44] <hashimi> Chetnick, yeah i don't have /dev/sda1 :(
[13:45] <hashimi> but i was there before...
[13:45] <chetnick> hashimi: did you plug in flash drive?
[13:45] <KrisKo> anyone using plowshare? i need to add repo to satisfy it's dependencies...:curl librecode0 recode tesseract-ocr tesseract-ocr-deu tesseract-ocr-eng imagemagick
[13:45] <chetnick> hashimi: type dmesg, it should show you on which dev is your stick.
[13:46] <hashimi> chetnick: Yeah it is there.  Ok let me try dmesg.
[13:46] <chetnick> hashimi: it should be somewhere near the ned.
[13:46] <chetnick> end*
[13:46] <chetnick> hashimi: you might wanna try dmesg | grep -i "SCSI device"
[13:46] <coolcat> hi, how do I make find print only files that match the pattern instead of every file?
[13:47] <hashimi> chetnick: I try that but no results return.
[13:47] <obiwan_> so here i am back Dr_Willis and YEAH! it does great :D
[13:48] <Gangrel> indus how do i do that?
[13:48] <hashimi> chetnick: do i need to reboot the system and see back?
[13:48] <indus> Gangrel, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[13:48] <erUSUL> coolcat: -name 'pattern*'
[13:48] <indus> Gangrel, then need to manually add the partitions there
[13:48] <erUSUL> coolcat: -name '*pattern*'
[13:49] <indus> Gangrel, or maybe ther is an easier way
[13:49] <K99Brain> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:49] <K99Brain> ops, sorry
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> obiwan_:  what does?
[13:50] <Gangrel> indus i opened fstab but what do i do there? (a bit newbie on ubuntu)
[13:51] <indus> Gangrel, CAN you paste it ? i will help
[13:51] <indus> !paste | Gangrel
[13:51] <Chr|s> is their a bug with the screensaver not going back to login screen after its locked?
[13:52] <Gangrel> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[13:52] <Gangrel> #
[13:52] <Gangrel> # Use 'blkid -o value -s UUID' to print the universally unique identifier
[13:52] <Gangrel> # for a device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name
[13:52] <Gangrel> # devices that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[13:52] <FloodBot4> Gangrel: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <Gangrel> #
[13:52] <CyL> Dr_Willis: you've had similar issues with your netbook?
[13:52] <Gangrel> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/372495/
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  I got an AAO with 2 sd slots - theres been issues with the right hand slot  for ages.
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  i think if you have a sd card in when you power up it works for many netbooks.. but it depends on the netbook
[13:53] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: Are you suggesting: "It cannot be done"? I do not believe you.
[13:54] <fif0> can I run a prog, that i have compiled on PC1 on PC2 with different hardware
[13:54] <cmp> is there any command which can allow me to change my Xfce to some other Version ?
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  what command is ctrl-shift-T  exactly?    and what are yoy trying to acomplish exactly?
[13:54] <indus> Gangrel, right click on the partitions and tell me the properties
[13:54] <scunizi> cmp: you mean something different from xfce? like gnome? or kde?
[13:54] <cmp> scunizi , yes
[13:55] <CyL> Dr_Willis: I was refering to the second head on the vga out connector...
[13:55] <scunizi> cmp: and you're running ubuntu's xubuntu?
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  on my AAO netbook it works fine.
[13:55] <cmp> scunizi, yes
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  ive not had any issues with it.
[13:55] <CyL> Dr_Willis: mine is a EEEPC
[13:55] <bigcx2> hey guys, i have a fresh karmic install and i just noticed that displayconfig-gtk isn't around anymore?
[13:55] <Gangrel> indus what properties of all you need?
[13:56] <scunizi> cmp: then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" or sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. then on the login screen change "sessions" to the one you want.
[13:56] <indus> Gangrel, ok nvm wait give me 4 min
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> CyL:  thers proberly an EEEE specific forum/thread/wiki page on the ubuntu sites. It could be some odd quirk with the intel drivers and they may suggest some fix.
[13:56] <indus> Gangrel, how many partitions do you have, can i see output of sudo fdisk -l
[13:57] <CyL> Dr_Willis: thanks for your advices..
[13:58] <Gangrel> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/372498/
[13:58] <vick> Hello, when booting ubuntu, sometimes it displays something about battery and stops... i am not even using a laptop...
[13:58] <indus> Gangrel, man too many
[13:59] <usernet> how to downgrade gdm to 2.20 in karmic?
[13:59] <Gangrel> indus yeah
[13:59] <obiwan_> Dr_Willis: it refresh the inodes so the hardlinks and symlinks point to the new inode in the new fs
[13:59] <indus> Gangrel, do you have windows too?
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> usernet:  ive seen guides on doing it.. but never tried.
[14:00] <Gangrel> indus i had but i just formated the drives through linux
[14:00] <cmp> scunizi, do you want to see the output so you can know more detailed what is going with it ?
[14:01] <scunizi> cmp: well if you used either of those commands then it's installing all kinds of stuff.. if there are errors then there's something else going on, on your system
[14:01] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: " what command is ctrl-shift-T exactly?" <- The command to effect the kepressing of the key combination Ctrl+Alt+T.  --  " what command is ctrl-shift-T exactly?" <- To effect this as a command so that tilda will open another tab when being called.
[14:02] <indus> Gangrel, ok you need to get the uuid of all partitions first with command sudo blkid
[14:02] <indus> Gangrel, save that output to a text file
[14:02] <rakel> ola
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> bullgard:  so the actual question is 'how do i open more then one tab in tilda when it launches' ?
[14:02] <rakel> ola de donde sois
[14:03] <rakel> ¿?
[14:03] <indus> Gangrel, for example a windows partition is mounted like this /dev/hda1   /media/windows   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[14:03] <indus> Gangrel, those masks are all nonsense ignore it
[14:03] <cmp> scunizi - there was some error while i did the first command here .
[14:03] <usernet> thx Dr_Willis
[14:03] <rakel> ola
[14:03] <jiohdi> could Nvidia be the reason why my remote desktop will not refresh?
[14:03] <cmp> scunizi , but the second command - is working till now
[14:04] <scunizi> cmp: ok.. what are the errors
[14:04] <DJones> !es | rakel
[14:04] <Gangrel> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/372501/
[14:05] <indus> Gangrel, ok
[14:05] <indus> Gangrel, hold on
[14:07] <occy> Hey guys... I run a local Gov't Access TV station.  I'd like to have a video informing the public what Ubuntu is... is there like a 30min video for Ubuntu anywhere?
[14:07] <occy> I should call Canonical
[14:07] <bigcx2> occy: probably
[14:07] <occy> Hmmm
[14:07] <indus> Gangrel, /dev/new_partition    /media/partitionname     ext3    defaults,umask=0 0 0
[14:07] <indus> Gangrel, add for all the partitions you have
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> I think thers some ubuntu/cononical site on 'promoting ubuntu'  but i cant recall where i saw it at
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> late night ubuntu infomercials! :)
[14:08] <indus> Gangrel, that means, first you need to create mount points for each partition with mkdir /media/p1 etx
[14:08] <indus> etc
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> 'just install it and forget it!'
[14:08] <bigcx2> lol
[14:08] <indus> Gangrel, ok oops 1 sec
[14:08] <panfist_> is there any way to protect a window from being minimized?
[14:09] <bigcx2> panfist_: why?
[14:09] <coz_> panfist_,  a "non-minimizeable" window?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  compiz has a featre to do that
[14:09] <DJones> occy: There's a number of screencasts showing how to do different things on ubuntu, i'm just looking to see if there's any "what is ubuntu" type files
[14:09] <coz_> panfist_,   via compiz perhaps
[14:09] <panfist_> bigcx2 when i show desktop i want this window to persist all the time
[14:09] <indus> Gangrel,or use the uuids which is better
[14:09] <occy> DJones: yeah... I'd need something more of an "Infomercial" type thing
[14:09] <Gangrel> indus so instead of the names i use the UUID right?
[14:09] <indus> Gangrel, so that will be instead of /dev/partition ,replace with uuid and the rest are same
[14:09] <indus> Gangrel, super  yes
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  with compiz you can set specific windows tobe untop. skip the taskbar,  and other settings
[14:10] <bigcx2> panfist: what like a permanent terminal or something
[14:10] <Chr|s> is their a bug with the screensaver not going back to login screen after its locked? It freezes on me and I am unable to get back unless I randomly start punching the keys
[14:10] <panfist_> bigcx2 actually a permanent seamless virtual machine
[14:10] <indus> Gangrel, leave the hpfs thing out , its some recovery partition
[14:10] <indus> Gangrel, all ext3 or whatever
[14:10] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  i got the nautils 'copying.. ' dialog set where it always stays on top by default :)
[14:10] <Gangrel> indus ok and at mkdir i use /media/UUID etx?
[14:10] <indus> Gangrel, add to fstab
[14:10] <DJones> occy: Have a look at http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/ On page 4, there's a couple that might be useful for you, Introduction to Ubuntu, Why ubuntu etc
[14:10] <panfist_> i have usability problems for some users when the minimize the virtual machine, the VM taskbar disappears and then the users are like chickens with their heads cut off
[14:10] <indus> Gangrel, no no
[14:11] <bigcx2> panfist_: hm...i'm sure there's a way to do it...i know you can have it stay on top by default, i don't know about preventing minimization though
[14:11] <davvs> How can I list what files that where installed by a package?
[14:11] <indus> Gangrel, at /media/ it should be /media/anynameyouwant
[14:11] <panfist_> dr_willis do you know how i would access those serttings?
[14:11] <indus> Gangrel, wait
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> panfist_:  install the 'ccsm' tool and  explore it.
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | panfist_
[14:11] <bigcx2> does anybody know what happened to the displayconfig-gtk utility in hardy?
[14:11] <mickster04> indus: you about?
[14:11] <bigcx2> s/hardy/karmic
[14:11] <bigcx2> d'oh
[14:12] <indus> Gangrel, # /dev/partition name
[14:12] <indus> mickster04, heya man, long time
[14:12] <mickster04> hello indus
[14:12] <mickster04> indus: yeah, christmas and new year etc...
[14:12] <bigcx2> i have a graphics card that supports resolutions up to 4096x? according to xrandr
[14:12] <indus> Gangrel, then on second line , the uuid and /media/bla bla etc
[14:12] <bigcx2> but i can't get any resolutions to get set permanently
[14:12] <mickster04> anyone have any relativly simple problems?:P
[14:12] <bigcx2> and there's no Xorg.conf file in karmic??? like wtf
[14:13] <indus> Gangrel, #/dev/name so you know which partition it is
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  thers  none needed in many cases
[14:13] <indus> Gangrel, but hash it out since you are using uuids for it
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  and thats changes from the X updates.. not really a ubuntu specific feature
[14:13] <bigcx2> Dr_Willis: yea but what about the users that do need it?!?!?!? Are they expected to type in xrandr commands every time they log in to GDM
[14:13] <indus> mickster04, so how was the holidays
[14:13] <afterfostercare> First time on IRC :)
[14:13] <mickster04> indus good yours?
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  the nvidia settings tool made a xorg.conf for me
[14:13] <indus> mickster04, not bad
[14:13] <afterfostercare> Using Ubuntu 9.10
[14:14] <mickster04> afterfostercare: welcome:D
[14:14] <afterfostercare> 39 years old and IRC for the first time lol That is slow
[14:14] <afterfostercare> lol
[14:14] <afterfostercare> question
[14:14] <bigcx2> Dr_Willis: I have an Intel Atom chipset and I have no xorg.conf
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  on my netbook the display settings tool sets the default res for my users somewhere in their home dir.. so its not an iss to me
[14:14] <mickster04> afterfostercare: everyone starts somewhere and go ahead:D
[14:14] <coz_> panfist_,   when you open ccsm  you want to go to the  Window mangement category... Window Rules plugin and under the "Matches"  tab  you will see an option for Non minimizable windows
[14:14] <indus> Gangrel, i see that you have ntfs also, please use accordingly
[14:14] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  my netbook AAO, has no xorg.conf - and i can set/change my res with the tools and it rembers.
[14:15] <bigcx2> Dr_Willis: If I could simply set the correct resolution in Prefs -> Display then i would be happy
[14:15] <afterfostercare> has anyone else been experiencing lockups every few seconds on their computer (not internet, a local and constant lockup/freeze) that then releases and everything catches up
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  iw as able to enable the 2nd monitor and have it running at a higher res and it rembers
[14:15] <afterfostercare> Thanks Mickster04
[14:15] <bigcx2> but it only has resolutions for 800x600
[14:15] <giacomo_> ciao
[14:15] <bigcx2> and that's poop
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  that tool rembers them for me. I DO recall i might of had to hit the fn-monitor button to enable the external monitor. then  used that tool.
[14:15] <giacomo_> help
[14:15] <CShadowRun> !ask | giacomo
[14:16] <ferret> Sorry, stupid question.  Could someone please point me to a page that explains how I would update to a newer kernel on karmic
[14:16] <Gangrel> indus thanks man it worked finally :)
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> bigcx2:  on my netbook the netbook has its res. then the external monitor has its own res.
[14:16] <indus> Gangrel, for ntfs do this > uuid  /media/partition ntfs user,defaults 0 0
[14:16] <bigcx2> lame, the only way I could get it to work was by doing that xrandr hack business :(
[14:16] <indus> Gangrel, ok thats nice to hear
[14:16] <afterfostercare> has anyone else been experiencing lockups every few seconds on their computer (not internet, a local and constant lockup/freeze) that then releases and everything catches up
[14:16] <afterfostercare> 9.10
[14:16] <indus> mickster04, i should go now , solved 1 problem at least :) for Gangrel
[14:17] <mickster04> well done
[14:17] <panfist_> thanks coz_
[14:17] <indus> afterfostercare, which graphics chip are you
[14:17] <coz_> panfist_,  no problem
[14:17] <JediMaster> can anyone tell me where ubuntu stores the info on the network interfaces that are defined in network/interfaces (e.g. why a network interface is called eth1 when the old eth0 has been removed)
[14:17] <mickster04> nm indus :D
[14:17] <afterfostercare> hmm let me see
[14:17] <indus> mickster04, nm? whats it
[14:18] <CShadowRun> !it > giacomo_
[14:18] <afterfostercare> nvidia
[14:18] <mickster04> indus nm = never mind as in "Oh well..."
[14:18] <afterfostercare> My 9.10 was fine until just recently
[14:18] <indus> mickster04, why nvm??
[14:18] <indus> afterfostercare, what do you mean recently
[14:18] <mickster04> indus:  you said you were going then started to help someone else:P
[14:18] <kingping> Hello room.
[14:18] <indus> mickster04, hehe yeah i got that nvm of yours actually but i asked anyway
[14:19] <afterfostercare> sorry indus if you have to go feel free to go
[14:19] <kingping> Doesn Ubuntu have nmap(1) in default installation?
[14:19] <ferret> I mean to ask; if the latest available version of the kernel package in synaptic is not quite new enough, is compiling a kernel the only option, or are there more updatified packages somewhere else?
[14:19] <indus> afterfostercare, tell me
[14:19] <indus> !info nmap
[14:19] <afterfostercare> I have Nvidia from what I can recall
[14:20] <indus> kingping, is extra as you cna see
[14:20] <accroft> Hello :D
[14:20] <kingping> Oh :(
[14:20]  * YBH_1 the gimp finally gets a single window mode http://static.arstechnica.com/gimp/singlewindow.png
[14:20] <indus> kingping, cant you install it?
[14:20] <indus> YBH_1, really?wow
[14:20] <afterfostercare> Indus: I have an Nvidia from what I recall (rookie here)
[14:20] <indus> YBH_1, downloadable?
[14:20] <kingping> indus: Have no cheap connection :/
[14:21] <bastid_raZor> kingping: nmap is not installed by default
[14:21] <indus> kingping, its just 2 mb file
[14:21] <kingping> okay, thanks.
[14:21] <indus> afterfostercare, what do you mean it was working befoer then stopped\
[14:21] <indus> !info nmap |kingp
[14:21] <indus> !info nmap | kingping
[14:21] <bullgard> Dr_Willis: yes.
[14:22] <tony_> olks
[14:23] <afterfostercare> Indus: I just mean that my 9.10 was working fine and still "works' it just seems to freeze up for about five seconds every couple minutes ... mouse still moves but cant' click etc.. then it all of a sudden catches up and "remembers" everything I did and executes those commands that I tried while frozen.. then back to normal till it does it again. I think it is only since a recent update manager that this started (two days)
[14:23] <tony_> hi folks
[14:23] <lsdluna> hi, I have my monitor plugged into my laptop at the moment and the screen displays on the monitor...however, it fails to utilize both the laptop screen and monitor screen at the same time, can someone help? The laptop's graphics card is Geforce 440 GO, I suspect its an issue with the drivers, but I don't understand how to check?
[14:23] <flaem> hi :)
[14:23] <julio> ola
[14:23] <indus> afterfostercare, do you have compiz enabled
[14:23] <afterfostercare> no idea (rookie here) how do I do that
[14:23] <julio> como estan cabrones
[14:23] <csarven> How can I verify whether my libx264-67 is used properly. One tool is telling me that it can't find it
[14:24] <afterfostercare> Indus: I am a rookie but confident
[14:24] <mickster04> lsdluna: there should be the function key with which you can toggle modes of the screen lcd / monitor / both
[14:24] <indus> afterfostercare, can you tell me if compiz is enabled
[14:24] <afterfostercare> do I install "Compiz" from the package manager?
[14:24] <anata> I have problem with UNR. I canno't configure panel, add/remove applets etc. I even created new account and same thing with it. I canno't modify panel.
[14:24] <mickster04> lsdluna: however it will be just a duplicated screen, i doubt you will be able to dual monitor as such...
[14:24] <afterfostercare> Indus: I do not know what compis is
[14:25] <chetnick> lsdluna: you have nvidia-drivers installed? if you do install nvidia-settings, and try to use that tool to set it up.
[14:25] <afterfostercare> (sorry Compiz)
[14:25] <indus> afterfostercare, ok do this go to main menu > system>preferences>appearance> visual effects
[14:25] <afterfostercare> k going to go there
[14:25] <lsdluna> mickster04: can you repeat your first line response please? i accidentally closed pidgin lol
[14:25] <mickster04> lsdluna: but i would be happy to be wrong, that sounds like an old graphics card tho?
[14:25] <mickster04> lsdluna: there should be the function key with which you can toggle modes of the screen lcd / monitor / both
[14:25] <indus> afterfostercare, so an nvidia card you said? did you install the drivers for it?
[14:26] <afterfostercare> My "Visual" are set to "Normal"
[14:26] <indus> afterfostercare, also go to system>administration>hardware drivers and see what it says
[14:26] <afterfostercare> k going
[14:26] <lsdluna> mickster04:  yeah fairly old, before i put ubuntu on, in windows, i could have dual monitor, similar to extended screen
[14:26] <cmp> scunizi, i finished ... but it asked me to choose gdm or kdm ... what i have to choose ?
[14:26] <mickster04> lsdluna: ok, well i recommend you check drivers are up to date...system>admin>hardware
[14:26] <scunizi> cmp: did you use both install lines?  then if you want to load kubuntu use kdm.. for ubuntu gdm
[14:27] <chetnick> cmp: thats up to you. gdm is gnome login manager, kdm is kde.
[14:27] <afterfostercare> Indus: the recomended NVIDIA is active
[14:27] <Blanca> ola
[14:27] <indus> afterfostercare, is active ? hmm ok now go to the previous visual effects thing again and set visual effects to none
[14:27] <Blanca> ola
[14:28] <indus> then check system freezes or not
[14:28] <giacomo> ciao
[14:28] <afterfostercare> Indus: k will do
[14:28] <lsdluna> mickster04: says "Proprietary drivers are being used to make this computer work properly"
[14:28] <mickster04> lsdluna: in theory there should be a tool in system>admin too related to geforce?
[14:28] <giacomo> hello
[14:28] <afterfostercare> Indus: have turned effects from normal to none
[14:28] <mickster04> lsdluna: that is probably right
[14:28] <Blanca> hello
[14:28] <lsdluna> mickster04: Nvidia X Server Settings
[14:28] <indus> afterfostercare, now use the system for some time and check
[14:28] <indus> i gtg now
[14:28] <Blanca> xao
[14:28] <mickster04> lsdluna: yes
[14:28] <afterfostercare> All: This IRC is some fast stuff lol
[14:28] <giacomo> can you help me
[14:28] <indus> afterfostercare, mickster04 will help you in case you need any :P
[14:29] <afterfostercare> Indus: will do some monitoring thank you very much
[14:29] <mickster04> afterfostercare: after a while you get used to it an filte out the stuff you dont want:p
[14:29] <mickster04> indus thanks :P
[14:29] <indus> afterfostercare, i hope you have ram more than 512 mb
[14:29] <afterfostercare> Mickster04 and Indus: yeah, starting to get there now. Thanks to both of you
[14:29] <afterfostercare> I have only that
[14:29] <cfedde> please keep your tongue in your mouth :-)
[14:29] <indus> 512 mb afterfostercare?
[14:30] <afterfostercare> Indus: Yes 512
[14:30] <lsdluna> mickster04: i tried using that, cant seem to make it work on both screens?
[14:30] <indus> afterfostercare, ok its probably firefox and flash eating up ram
[14:30] <indus> afterfostercare, use chrome browser its light and fast
[14:30] <indus> bye now
[14:30] <afterfostercare> Indus and Mickster04: Ok, will try chrome
[14:31] <mickster04> lsdluna: well unfortunatly i aint in ubuntu atm, i recently install xp again an havent fixed grub...there should be options available for what you want, i would recommend snooping around to see if u can find it...sorry:/
[14:31] <afterfostercare> All: I am going to go now thanks so much to Indus and Mickster04
[14:31] <mickster04> afterfostercare: come back soon:p
[14:31] <brian_> How do I add programs to start when the computer boots? When I used gentoo I would do it by using the rc-update command, but my ubuntu server doesn't seem to have that.
[14:31] <syrinx2112> Hi all.  Anyone familiar with the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" app?  Having an issue with Ubuntu One not remembering the password.
[14:31] <cmp> scunizi, i have this error .    http://pastebin.com/ma43a6f5
[14:31] <mickster04> brian_: you using a gui? or server?
[14:32] <afterfostercare> Mickster04: I will thanks so very much.. I have heard about IRC for over 20 years and finally used it. A great experience for sure
[14:32] <brian_> mickster04: server, no gui
[14:32] <mickster04> afterfostercare: its an experience that is true ;D
[14:32] <Myrtti> !upstart | brian_
[14:32] <mickster04> brian_: ok, give me a minute
[14:32] <cmp> scunizi, after the installation finished - i got this error which i got it also in the first installation you gave me ...
[14:32] <afterfostercare> All: By for now have a great day
[14:33] <mickster04> brian_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=778921 is similar to what you want?
[14:34] <mickster04> brian_: sorry that link is dead....
[14:34] <Urda> why is the Zend Framework not up to date in Ubuntu's Repo?
[14:34] <blakkheim> Urda: things usually aren't
[14:34] <mickster04> brian_: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22914 this one might be better :P
[14:35] <Gangrel> how do i edit grub2?
[14:35] <Urda> blakkheim: fun... why is that anyway?
[14:35] <brian_> thanks guys, I'll try that out
[14:35] <syrinx2112> Every time I boot up, I have to re-enter the password for Ubuntu One.  Not sure how to get it to "remember" it.
[14:35] <cmp> scunizi, did you see my pastebin?
[14:35] <blakkheim> Urda: i'm not a developer, anything i told you would just be opinion
[14:36] <hamzaatova2> can i make my laptop card reader to work on ubuntu? it's richo
[14:36] <Agapito> HI
[14:36] <rand0> can any1 help?
[14:36] <Agapito> yes
[14:37] <Agapito> what is a petardo?
[14:37] <rand0> All of the sudden all the windows in ubuntu turned into black n' white, like it happens in xp, wen u get infected with virus
[14:38] <coz_> rand0,  do you mean grey?
[14:38] <mickster04> rand0: there are very few if any virus's that work in linux....
[14:39] <blakkheim> mickster04: "viruses"
[14:39] <mickster04> blakkheim: good pint
[14:39] <mickster04> point**
[14:39] <segin> dipak: Sam
[14:39] <coz_> rand0, could you screenshot that and upload to  picpaste.com
[14:39] <docmax> hi, does anyone know how to change the KDE theme into GTK or Windows?
[14:40] <rand0> im not sure if it was grey..but all the windows changed , like the borders became sharp? like the graphics was totally gone.
[14:40] <rand0> sorry it lasted only for 3-5 seconds
[14:40] <rand0> didn't take a screen shot.
[14:40] <obscurant1st> how to enable read and write for a specific user for a root only folder?
[14:40] <alex88_> hi all, a quick tip, how can i edit grub.cfg from grub console?
[14:40] <farizluqman> sudo
[14:40] <mickster04> docmax: you have a bad change of getting themes into windoze
[14:40] <segin> docmax: You can select the "Redmond" theme for KDE
[14:41] <coz_> alex88_,  you dont edit that file you dit  /etc/default/grub   I believe
[14:41] <docmax> over "systemsettings"?
[14:41] <segin> docmax: As for using GTK+ themes in KDE or other QT apps, give up, currently cannot be done
[14:41] <coz_> alex88_,   then in terminal sudo update-grub  so that is written to the grub.cfg
[14:41] <mickster04> coz_: yeah thats right
[14:41] <farizluqman> can I install COMPIZ on my Ubuntu 9?
[14:41] <rand0> anybody?
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> there might be identacly themes for kde/qt and for gnome/gtk eperhaps
[14:41] <IP-v6> obscurant1st, i am not sure but you may try chmod  ?
[14:41] <mickster04> you cannot (certainly should not) edit grub.cfg manually
[14:41] <coz_> farizluqman,   it is already installed
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  compiz is installed by default
[14:41] <alex88_> coz_: i've added --class to a menu.cfg entry, btw now it doesn't boot, is there a way to edit on grub2 console?
[14:42] <alex88_> coz_: otherwise i'll use the cd, but it's faster to do on console if it's possible
[14:42] <farizluqman> coz_: couldn't find it anywhere....
[14:42] <jack5463> mickster04, what's the difference between windows os and linux where there are very few virus that work in linux?
[14:42] <coz_> alex88_,  well you are not suppose to edit the grub.cfg
[14:42] <h2o0> hi
[14:42] <farizluqman> coz_: can it be started by terminal?
[14:42] <coz_> farizluqman,   system/preferences/appearance   visual effects ta
[14:42] <hamzaatova2> why after few hours of playing radio with totem the system stops responding?
[14:42] <alex88_> coz_: i know, so it's not possible? it says "too many titles for menu entry -class"
[14:42] <hamzaatova2> can i make my laptop card reader to work on ubuntu? it's richo
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  if you got the drivers enabled properly 'compiz --replace'
[14:42] <farizluqman> coz_: or autostarted
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  or install/use the fusion-icon tool
[14:42] <mickster04> jack5463: that is really off-topic. I don't know much about it, but there are just too few viruses written for linux in comparison to windows.
[14:42] <h2o0> Recently I've installed ubuntu 9.10 32-bits, but I've no sound :s what can I do?
[14:43] <rand0> nevermind ! i ll figure out myself.
[14:43] <coz_> farizluqman,  if your drivers are installed then it should start automatically
[14:43] <h2o0> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[14:43] <coz_> farizluqman,   in a terminal type   lspci | grep - i vga
[14:43] <coz_> farizluqman,  what does that read out
[14:43] <h2o0> lspci |grep audio returns nothing for me
[14:43] <h2o0> what's wrong?
[14:44] <farizluqman> coz_: Great, I can see.... blank
[14:44] <erUSUL> h2o0: lspci |grep -i audio
[14:44] <coz_> farizluqman,   copy this command into the terminal     lspci | grep -i vga
[14:44] <Asmob> how disable screen ging black after like 10mins?\
[14:44] <alex88_> coz_: btw, i'll fix it with the cd.. thank you anyway..
[14:44] <coz_> Asmob,   system preferences  screensaver   untick the activate box
[14:45] <h2o0> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/m60b9ff3d
[14:45] <vishal1> Any flash editor for Ubuntu 9.04?
[14:45] <Asmob> coz_, ty that was it..
[14:45] <vishal1> Any flash editor for Ubuntu 9.04?:)
[14:45] <coz_> vishal1,  mm   not sure   but Pencil is a decent replacement for illustrator
[14:45] <mickster04> vishal1: i think you can use wine for your windows oone?
[14:46] <coz_> vishal1,  I have not tried to edit flash files with Pencil but  cant hurt to try :)
[14:46] <h2o0> so, how to enable sound?
[14:46] <farizluqman> coz_: only blank, then I pressed CTRL + C to cencel..
[14:46] <coz_> vishal1,   sudo apt-get install pencil
[14:46] <raulpercy> hola mundo
[14:46] <coz_> farizluqman,  in terminal you only get black?
[14:46] <erUSUL> h2o0: that seems to be the dvb card (TV) post your whole lspci output
[14:47] <furythor> I am getting http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7a48f003 error when trying to install latest wine could anyone help what to do ?
[14:47] <h2o0> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/d1895e807
[14:48] <coz_> farizluqman,  make sure you are spelling it correctly in terminal or just copy and paste it    lspci | grep -i vga
[14:48] <erUSUL> h2o0: is maybe the onboard audio disabled in the bios?
[14:48] <blakkheim> coz_: the problem was that YOU misspelled the command to give him originally
[14:48] <h2o0> erUSUL, nope
[14:48] <vargadanis> hi, how can I print out to console the directure stucture of a directory? eg: I'd like to see the directory tree of this folder: /root
[14:49] <farizluqman> coz_: done
[14:49] <h2o0> works fine until reinstall ubuntu again
[14:49] <vargadanis> without the files, only the dirs
[14:49] <coz_> farizluqman, ok what   does it say?
[14:49] <pablito> olaaaaa
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> vargadanis:  i seem to recall a command to do that.. but i cant rember it.. it did a luttle tree type drawint.
[14:49] <furythor> Could anyone help with that wine installing problem ?
[14:49] <b14ck> Hey all--How can I tell if I have serial devices plugged into my system from the command line?
[14:49] <cmp> erUSUL, how can i poste img?
[14:49] <Dr_Willis> !info tree
[14:49] <mickster04> furythor: probably
[14:50] <erUSUL> !screenshot | cmp
[14:50] <Dr_Willis> vargadanis:  Try tree :)
[14:50] <coz_> furythor,  if no one can help right now try  the #wine channel I believe
[14:50] <h2o0> erUSUL, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory  --> seems alsamixer don't load
[14:50] <vargadanis> FOUND IT :) tree -d ./
[14:50] <furythor> mickster04: I get http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7a48f003 error but got no freaking idea why
[14:50] <erUSUL> h2o0: if there is no sound card it is hardly a surprise
[14:50] <LavaEagle> I am about to install ubuntu on a windows 7 platform, is there anything I should be aware of or can I just go ahead and install?
[14:50] <h2o0> then what should I do?
[14:50] <farizluqman> coz_: but the terminal does not show any status, just get me to the next \
[14:51] <LavaEagle> Cause it isn't loading wubi it is crashing explorer
[14:51] <mickster04> furythor: i presume your using ap-get
[14:51] <mickster04> apt-get*
[14:51] <farizluqman> bash\ something...
[14:51] <coz_> farizluqman,  then something is seriously wrong  on that end
[14:51] <furythor> mickster04: Yes
[14:51] <knxville> Do anyone have any guide to make ubuntu run faster?!
[14:51] <mickster04> furythor: have you run sudo apt-get update?
[14:52] <furythor> mickster04: Yes but ran it once more to be sure
[14:52] <cmp> erUSUL, i want to change my system to something like remix ubuntu or something else than what i have here .... is there any command that can change it without re-installing ?     here is my system       http://imagebin.org/84062
[14:52] <erUSUL> h2o0: i really dunno the sound card should show up in lspci. re-check bios settings
[14:52] <h2o0> ok, thx
[14:52] <rootpower> b43-phy0 problem it doesn't support PHY how to fix (someone?)
[14:52] <furythor> mickster04: but the problem persists
[14:53] <erUSUL> cmp: dunno; i do not know of UNR metapackages
[14:53] <mickster04> furythor: http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/48910 may be more helpful than me...i am looking through it now but you can too, maybe try the stuff out:p
[14:53] <b14ck> Hey all--How can I tell if I have serial devices plugged into my system from the command line?
[14:53] <farizluqman> I type compiz in the terminal and it says: "Could not set display"
[14:53] <outoftime> hi all - I've got a hand-built Ruby package installed on my machine, which I packaged into a .deb and installed using dpkg. That works fine, but every time Update Manager wants to update software, it tries to replace it with the distribution ruby package. I can manually uncheck it every time but that's kind of a pain. Any way to tell aptitude not to try to touch ruby?
[14:53] <mickster04> furythor: it sounds like you'll have to purge and reinstall again
[14:53] <farizluqman> sudo compiz
[14:54] <bazhang> cmp, what version of ubuntu are you using
[14:54] <blakkheim> outoftime: aptitude hold ruby
[14:54] <outoftime> blakkheim: i was hoping it was something simple : ) thanks!
[14:54] <cmp> http://imagebin.org/84062   here is what iam using bazhang,
[14:54] <erUSUL> b14ck: you can not. unless you query them (if it is a modem he may respond to AT commands )
[14:54] <furythor> mickster04: doing that
[14:54] <bazhang> cmp, please tell me the version: is it 9.10 karmic
[14:54] <lungan> Having some big trouble with .mkv -> .mp4 since my tv don't take the .mkv format, which is the easiest way to change from .mkv to .mp4 ?
[14:54] <mickster04> furythor:im off now but at least you have stuff to try now, if not ask someone else here:D
[14:54] <b14ck> erUSUL, how can I query them locally then? Should I try to telnet to /dev/ttys0 or something?
[14:54] <blakkheim> lungan: ffmpeg
[14:55] <hamzaatova2> i heard today about a prograam for managing updates and also for security--- do you know the name?
[14:55] <blakkheim> hamzaatova2: aptitude
[14:55] <lungan> blakkheim, now I have installed it, how do I use it, I have an .mkv file on the desktop
[14:55] <erUSUL> b14ck: sudo echo 'ATZ' > /dev/ttyS0 worked back in the day... it made modem light blink
[14:55] <cmp> its 9.10 but in dont know if its karmic or another - i go to about ubuntu here in my system and its not giving me something understandable
[14:55] <erUSUL> b14ck: it all depends on the type of device attached
[14:55] <blakkheim> lungan: an ffmpeg lesson would be offtopic here, you could read the manpage
[14:56] <cmp> bazhang,  its 9.10 but in dont know if its karmic or another - i go to about ubuntu here in my system and its not giving me something understandable
[14:56] <rootpower> b43-phy0 problem it doesn't support PHY how to fix (someone?)
[14:56] <bazhang> cmp, and you want to install ubuntu-netbook-remix ?
[14:56] <erUSUL> b14ck: for example my hp48gx will not respond to that
[14:56] <b14ck> erUSUL, thanks ;)
[14:56] <hamzaatova2> blakkheim, it isnt in the packege manager
[14:56] <blakkheim> hamzaatova2: it IS your package manager
[14:56] <cmp> the Version right before remix.
[14:56] <alex88_> coz_: are you still there? do you know how can i load another config file in grub console? i've a backup copy, loaded with configfile command in console, now how to read that cfg and start with it?
[14:56] <cmp> bazhang , version right before remix..
[14:57] <cmp> oh bazhang, i think i have Xubuntu
[14:57] <coz_> alex88_,  mm   you might want to go to the #grub channel     did you try   sudo update-grub ?
[14:57] <bazhang> cmp never heard of a version before remix; the package to install for it is ubuntu-netbook-remix
[14:57] <alex88_> i can't boot, i've the grub console atm
[14:57] <alex88_> btw, i'll join that
[14:57] <alex88_> thank you
[14:57] <rootpower> b43-phy0 problem it doesn't support PHY how to fix (someone?)
[14:57] <coz_> alex88_,   grub2 is still something I am researching    it is a bit  complex
[14:58] <cmp> ok guide me for it bazhang, and i will do it
[14:58] <furythor> has anyone else had problem of installing latest wine on fresh system ?
[14:58] <bazhang> cmp, no need to guide: open up your package manager and install it. This is the very basic step.
[14:59] <rootpower> b43-phy0 problem it doesn't support PHY how to fix (someone?)
[14:59] <blakkheim> !repeat | rootpower
[15:00] <rootpower> srry
[15:00] <coz_> alex88_,   I am not trying to push you away ... it is just I need to reasearch grub2 a bit more to be more proficient with it
[15:00] <farizluqman> coz_: sudo apt-get install compiz <<< redownloaded this files...
[15:00] <rootpower> how to install PHY support with a b43 wlan driver
[15:01] <farizluqman> coz_: and type compiz --replace.... now can start compiz
[15:01] <alex88_> coz_: no problem man, i'm just searching for a fast solution.. =)
[15:01] <cmp> bazhang, iam always getting this while i install any thing ....     E: mozilla-plugin-gnash: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[15:02] <alex88_> coz_: ok, using configfile (hd0,0)/boot/grub/grub.cfg.backup worked fine..=) thank you anyway..have a nice time
[15:03] <farizluqman>  
[15:03] <`mOOse`> cmp - #xfce might be able to help
[15:03] <rootpower> how to install PHY support with a b43 wlan driver
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> hasent the b43 driver been replaced/obsoleted/updated?
[15:04] <xfact> Ubuntu has any emulator to run Mac's .dmg files? (Like WINE for .exe files)
[15:04] <farizluqman> echo "compiz --replace" > ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh  and ... chmod +x ~/.kde/Autostart/startcompiz.sh now can start compiz on startup
[15:04] <tryggvib> so I've removed openjdk* from my computer and installed sun-java6* but in update-binfmts it's still referring to the old openjdk... how do I update it?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> xfact:  a .dmg is a disk filessstem image file - last i looked.. you dont really run them. they sort of get 'mounted'
[15:06] <xfact> So... .dmg files works on Ubuntu anyway or not?
[15:06] <Dr_Willis> xfact:  you Might be ble to 'mount' them to access the contents..
[15:07] <xfact> Dr_Willis: Can you kindly tell me the process of 'mounting' .dmg files? (If it is too complicated or risky then I do not need to know)
[15:07] <farizluqman> dr_willis: .dmg files contain Uni* apps for mac? can it be used on linux? I have Microsoft Office 2008 Mac DMG
[15:08] <axos88> Hi! My firefox is dead slow on startup (like ~1 minute), and when typing the first address into the adress bar until it becomes responsive, and everything is ok(another ~30sec)
[15:08] <archboxman> xfact: lolo
[15:08] <axos88> Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[15:08] <docmax> i really get crazy
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> xfact:  i have no idea. on my imac - dmg files get 'mounted' the same way you sould mount an ext3/2 filesystem file on linux.  I dont even know if  linux can read/write  the hfs/hfs+ filesystem in dmg files
[15:08] <`mOOse`> axos88: FF 3.6?
[15:09] <docmax> why do some apps use kde3 while other use kde4?
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> farizluqman:  i doubt it.
[15:09] <axos88> `mOOse`, 3.5.7
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> docmax:  older apps may still be using kde3 stuff.
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> !hfs | xfact
[15:09] <sipior> xfact: for example: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/dmg.htm
[15:09] <vianocturna85> xfact: look here at the bottom of the page, it might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=125526
[15:09] <docmax> even on a kde4 installation some apps use kde3 engine...
[15:09] <axos88> `mOOse`, but I've been haivng this issue even before 3.0 came to be
[15:10] <BluesKaj> axos88, FF has some issues with the latest version , if that's what you are running... made me switch to chrome ..chrome imports all the FF bookmarks etc
[15:10] <docmax> chrome looks ugly
[15:10] <archboxman> BluesKaj: what issues??? with ff 3.6???????????
[15:11] <upd> hi, i wan't install ubuntu remix, on my notebook from usb, but i stop at 70% instalation with error bad usb, or something like that for, can i install it now ? i'm trying with minimal ubuntu, and i boot okey but ther is no drivers for wireless so i can't downlad from internet packet what can i do ?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ugly is in the eye of the looker , docmax and chrome is simple and and straightforward
[15:11] <axos88> BluesKaj, I'm running 3.5.7, but I've been having this issue even before 3.0... And chrome is not supported for the university management system, so I can't switch :|
[15:11] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:11] <archboxman> axos88: there are videos on about:config in youtube how to spend up ff...
[15:12] <Tek-5-8-6> What is the next step if the ubuntu-9.10-alternate disc was not able to load the drive for my on board RAID ?
[15:12] <vianocturna85> upd: after you download the image file, make sure the md5sum is correct, you might have a bad/corrupt image
[15:12] <dougal> Where can I get PHP > 5.2.6 for Jaunty?
[15:12] <archboxman> axos88: I dont think that is what your problem is... I think you have addtional software that loads at time of boot up...
[15:12] <erUSUL> Tek-5-8-6: for onboard raid (fakeraid) you must use the desktop cd. to load the driver before beginning the install
[15:12] <xfact> This is too hard, i should find any alternative linux supported software file of that .dmg file
[15:13] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | Tek-5-8-6
[15:13] <xfact> Well, thanks for sharing those links/help :)
[15:13] <archboxman> axos88: I minute thats a bit much unless you have a slow machine???
[15:13] <axos88> archboxman, like what? I don't have anything special installed besides what came with Ubuntu 9.10
[15:13] <Tek-5-8-6> it is not fake raid, It is controlled with an onboard chip. I trid to use the normal install CD and it could not see any hard drives
[15:13] <axos88> archboxman, 2GB RAM, 2.6 GHZ Core 2 Duo should be enough for FF i guess...
[15:14] <archboxman> axos88: thats a lot of bloat loaded
[15:14] <Tek-5-8-6> The alternate CD did see the hard drives but when it goes to the partition options there is nothing
[15:14] <Chr|s_> for some reason my graphics card isn't working correctly with Ubuntu. I am using ATI Radeon 4600
[15:14] <mikealeonetti> when I try to remove the "guest" user I get this error: "userdel: error deleting shadow password entry" and that's because it's not there. but the guest account doesn't get denied when I SSH
[15:14] <archboxman> axos88: thats to fast for that slow... :(
[15:14] <erUSUL> Tek-5-8-6: bios raid is fakeraid. true hardware raid cards are 600 $ and up
[15:14] <archboxman> axos88: which desktop are loading?????? Gnome Kde
[15:14] <axos88> archboxman, gnome
[15:14] <Tek-5-8-6> Hmmm, I see. But it should still load the Driver yes?
[15:15] <rootpower> Broadcom wlan error b43-ph0 Found unsupported phy
[15:15] <archboxman> Way to slow???
[15:15] <axos88> archboxman, (I'm having the same problem under windows too)
[15:15] <furythor> do I need to compile and install GIT from source ?
[15:15] <Tek-5-8-6> im trying to load it onto a Intel® Server Board S5500BC
[15:15] <archboxman> axos88: Desktop or laptop
[15:15] <`mOOse`> if you think 3.5.7 is slow just try 3.6 - ugh
[15:15] <erUSUL> Tek-5-8-6: yes you need the desktop cd as i said. read the wiki page
[15:15] <axos88> archboxman, laptop, but no power management.
[15:16] <Tek-5-8-6> Hmm, I will try the desktop CD again
[15:16] <archboxman> axos88: What about laptop fan?????
[15:16] <axos88> archboxman, whoa?... The computer is fast other than FF
[15:16] <aolja> hi there
[15:17] <archboxman> axos88: DONT CARE ABOUT THAT LAPTOP COOLER?? YES NO
[15:17] <axos88> archboxman, what yes / no?
[15:17] <blakkheim> !caps
[15:18] <jack5463> On the "ubuntu server channel list" using XChat-gnome, unbuntu 9.10 I used to have the function icon to minimize the window. That function isn't available; dissappeared. How do I repair it?
[15:18] <archboxman> axos88: have laptop chiller...
[15:18] <axos88> archboxman, i think the problem is with my ff profile, because if I create another profile, that loads well... But all my data is stored under that profile
[15:18] <axos88> archboxman, of course i have a laptop cooler
[15:18] <Spanglish_7776> I have a question, hopefully it doesn't stump everyone as it did me. I have a old USB video capture device, I can't remember the name as it's not branded on the device and the model number only says "c" lol, no actually model number. at any rate, I plug it into a usb port and it detects it and tries to use spca505, it's one of those devices that you can pick between two different RCA plugs or an S-Video (no audio input).. any ideas, suggestions, though
[15:19] <archboxman> axos88: what you got a thousand bookmarks
[15:19] <axos88> archboxman, I've got a few, but not a thousand
[15:19] <disposable> when i install kde applications in ubuntu, a lot of their icons are missing. (konqueror, kdissert) I tried installing kdeartwork but that didn't help. what do i need to install?
[15:19] <archboxman> axos88: how many add-ons???
[15:19] <axos88> archboxman, 3
[15:19] <rootpower> Broadcom wlan error b43-ph0 Found unsupported phy
[15:19] <archboxman> axos88: theres fastest fox... do you have it
[15:20] <bsdnux> i got a intel i7 3.33GHz cpu, dmidecode tells me "Max Speed: 3333 MHz", but cpufreq-info tells me "hardware limits: 1.60 GHz - 2.67 GHz". is this a cpufreq limit?
[15:20] <rootpower> how to fix
[15:20] <axos88> archboxman, is that an addon? No I don't
[15:20] <ki4cgp> Spanglish_7776, You can try "lsusb" command to at least get a little info on it.  I won't be of any help troubleshooting it, but maybe armed with a little info, you might find some better answers
[15:20] <archboxman> axos88: yes it is a add-on
[15:21] <furythor> I am pulling git and wine through it to get this disastrous situation cleared
[15:21] <archboxman> axos88: do you ad blocker???
[15:21] <axos88> archboxman, no
[15:21] <archboxman> axos88: you need to watch a youtube video on top 10 add-ons
[15:21] <traz1> anyone know about setting up ubuntu to run from a usb flash drive?
[15:22] <blakkheim> !usb > traz1
[15:22] <archboxman> axos88: your missing a lot of cool features....!
[15:22] <axos88> archboxman, i don't need cool features, all I care about is ff loading in 2-3 sec top
[15:23] <diablo-sg> i guys
[15:23] <archboxman> axos88: lol what is with the profile???? what do you mean by a profile???
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> traz1:  it can be done. but i think at the last step of install you need to tell grub to install to the usb drive - unless you want grub to install to the installed hd on the pc
[15:23] <Tek-5-8-6> Hmmm, The ubuntu 9.10 desktop CD did not see the RAID array either. When it gets to prepare partitions its blank as before
[15:23] <axos88> archboxman, like firefox -P
[15:23] <rootpower> Broadcom wlan error b43-ph0 Found unsupported phy
[15:23] <diablo-sg> how do i get my 3g sim card to work on my laptop :s
[15:24] <rootpower> how to fix
[15:24] <knxville> What is it the restricted extra is called when using sudo apt-get install
[15:24] <Pici> knxville: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> rootpower:  did you check the ubuntu forums yet?
[15:24] <archboxman> axos88: I don't use a profile for what reason?? I just save my bookmarks and reload them for a profile..
[15:24] <knxville> Pici, thanks
[15:25] <archboxman> axos88: I also take a screenshot of my add-ons and reload them... :)
[15:25] <`mOOse`> axos88: that's a trivial amount of addons you have...and 2-3 second load time for FF even with a Cray is unreasonable....good luck with that
[15:26] <archboxman> axos88: 2-3 seconds is a bit much mine loads in about 5 to 10 seconds
[15:26] <axos88> archboxman, okay, so even 10 sec is reasonable, but my FF is usable in 1,5 mins
[15:26] <upd> huh, my md5 i not correct, whan now, download again ?
[15:26] <archboxman> axos88: that profile is killing you
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> upd:  yep. You might want to use the torrents to download.
[15:27] <IP-v6> why does empathy set automatically status to busy when it is already set hidden ?
[15:27] <axos88> archboxman,  probably
[15:27] <archboxman> Why use a profile if I need to save data I save it to google account
[15:27] <upd> Dr_Willis: okey
[15:28] <erUSUL> upd: a torrent client may "fix" your iso just overwritte it when asked (by torrent client). it will check it and dwonload the mssing/corrupt pieces
[15:28] <furythor> Now I do install 32bit building tools ?
[15:28] <erUSUL> find lib32
[15:28] <erUSUL> !find lib32
[15:29] <BuxnaMan> i have dual boot windows and ubuntu and am wandering if i may format my windows partition and reinstall windows on it. My question is if boot files on dual boot are placed on windows or linux partition?
[15:29] <JonathanEllis> Is there really no way to use Ubuntu One with a machine running Hardy?
[15:29] <rootpower> Broadcom wlan error b43-ph0 Found unsupported phy
[15:29] <rootpower> how to fix
[15:29] <archboxman> axos88: I read up on profiles ohhh no I would save such data that is eating your ff up... Its loading in all your personel settings of course eats eating time...
[15:30] <blakkheim> JonathanEllis: what do you need it for? why not just use dropbox or something?
[15:30] <erUSUL> furythor: install lib32c-dev (and related) pass -m32 as compiler option ?
[15:30] <axos88> archboxman, this make no sense. If FF would handle that data as it should, it should NOT slow it down.
[15:30] <archboxman> axos88: All your passwords...there are ff add-ons for just this
[15:30] <furythor> BuxnaMan: windows does always take over Master Boot Record (MBR) or atleast is used to do that
[15:31] <furythor> erUSUL: it has no install canditates
[15:31] <JonathanEllis> blakkheim: I would like to use it for keeping my accounting files secure in case of computer failure. It would be really handy to have a networked folder that desktop applications like gnucash could access directly
[15:31] <archboxman> axos88: yes has to load the data how many passwords do you have saved to this ... all your personel settings
[15:31] <Subby> Hi, how can I grep from stderr over a pipe?
[15:31] <BuxnaMan> furythor: so if i format my windows partition i will not be able too boot linux anyomre?
[15:32] <axos88> archboxman, yeah, how many data is that? 40-50 kB? maybe 100. So yeah, not very much data. I'm a programmer, so I know that.
[15:32] <jack5463> On the "ubuntu server channel list" using XChat-gnome, unbuntu 9.10 I used to have the function icon to minimize the window. That function isn't available now; dissappeared. How do I repair it?
[15:32] <furythor> BuxnaMan: Not as far as I know of, before you modify your boot record... and I don't know how to do that
[15:32] <blakkheim> JonathanEllis: you could setup a little nfs/ssh server for that
[15:32] <archboxman> axos88: Really do need to look into add-ons for fire fox...Hey ,but it loads your personel settings before connecting to internet no good...
[15:32] <rootpower> Broadcom driver problems someone want to help?
[15:32] <JonathanEllis> blakkheim: On another machine you mean?
[15:32] <blakkheim> !broadcom > rootpower
[15:32] <BuxnaMan> shit...
[15:32] <blakkheim> JonathanEllis: yes
[15:32] <FoolsRun> I have a Virtualbox networking question. Kinda specific. Is there a better channel to ask it in?
[15:33] <axos88> FoolsRun, try #vbox
[15:33] <BuxnaMan> does anybody knows how can i edit boot record so i place it on my ext3 partition?
[15:33] <JonathanEllis> blakkheim: But I dont have another machine, let alone in a separate building that is backed up regularly
[15:33] <IP-v6> any1 have any idea about my question ?
[15:33] <Chr|s> Im looking to upgrade my graphics card ATI Raedon 4670 what gpu manufacturer is best to go with that works well with linux?
[15:33] <blakkheim> JonathanEllis: have you considered dropbox and found it to not be suitable for your need?
[15:34] <blakkheim> !pm | rootpower
[15:34] <JonathanEllis> blakkheim: And a location on another machine would still be a single point of failure. I haven't used dropbox. I will take a look
[15:34] <blakkheim> JonathanEllis: it's basically the same thing as "ubuntu one"
[15:34] <rootpower> Broadcom driver problems someone want to help?
[15:35] <rootpower> Broadcom problem b43-phy0 Found unsupported PHY
[15:35] <k4rt33k> Hey I am getting weird errors after trying to import random in python after i import print_function from __future
[15:35] <k4rt33k> any idea why?
[15:35] <blakkheim> k4rt33k: /join #python
[15:36] <furythor> ANYONE here has latest wine 64 bit install dep ?
[15:36] <`mOOse`> BuxnaMan: there are dozens of pgms online that can record your mbr and put it into a file
[15:36] <rukhwill> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:36] <`mOOse`> put it on a usb or floppy and replace it once you install windows
[15:37] <`mOOse`> or run grub2 off the live cd and do it from there
[15:37] <rootpower> Broadcom problem b43-phy0 Found unsupported PHY
[15:38] <hagus> Where should I ask about the difference between /home/calum/www and /var/www?  Currently, I use /home/calum/www for ror and then use localhost:3000.  I use /var/www for php scripts, etc.  I want to be able to use  /home/calum/www as well for php scripts.
[15:38] <furythor> Atlast got that to work
[15:38] <KaiForce> I have an Intel 8500 and want to install 64 bit Ubuntu.  Do I use the AMD64 version?
[15:38] <pablito> hola
[15:38]  * hagus is calum
[15:38] <llutz> hagus: #apache
[15:38] <erUSUL> rootpower: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/376259
[15:38] <hagus> Ty llutz :)
[15:39] <pablito> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[15:39] <Pici> KaiForce: Yes. AMD created the specification and such its named after them.
[15:39] <erUSUL> KaiForce: if your cpu is 64 bits yes take the amd64 version
[15:39] <Pici> !es | pablito
[15:39] <pablito> k????
[15:39] <Pici> pablito: /join #ubuntu-es por espanol
[15:39] <pablito> k ableis coñooooooo
[15:40] <KaiForce> Pici, erUSUL thank you kindly
[15:40] <erUSUL> pablito: aqui no se puede hablar español. y menos con esa actitud. ve a #ubuntu-es si necesitas ayuda en español. Escribe "/j #ubuntu-es" y dale aenter (sin comillas)
[15:41] <hagus> Are there good ubuntu-favoured mice?
[15:41] <KaiForce> it is possible that pablito speaks portuguese
[15:41] <ribot> hi, i just installed wu-ftpd, but it is not running, even after i start
[15:41] <pablito> hola
[15:41] <pablito> hola
[15:41] <pablito> hola
[15:41]  * hagus has an A4 mouse.
[15:41] <pablito> hola
[15:41] <FloodBot4> pablito: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:41] <konman> hi
[15:42] <fucnqshun> hello is there a way to keep my ftp coonections from closing automatically due to no actuvity? its annoying
[15:42] <pablito> holaaa
[15:42] <konman> how can i switch the clock ho display time in base 16 ?
[15:42] <pilch> Um, question. I just upgraded to lucid, and now my Xorg colors are dark. It's bizarre. The mouse pointer is nice and bright, but everything else greenish...? Any suggestions?
[15:42] <konman> i'm not used to digital
[15:43] <Pici> pilch: Please direct Lucid questions to #ubuntu+1
[15:43] <konman> i use ubuntu 9.10
[15:43] <pilch> Pici: thanks.
[15:43] <furythor> Should I use latest 190 Nvidia drivers directly from Nvidia website ?
[15:43] <erUSUL> furythor: no
[15:43] <archboxman> konman: Are u talk military time base 16???
[15:43] <erUSUL> furythor: System>Admin...>Hardware Drivers
[15:44] <konman> archboxman: how can i set this up?
[15:44] <furythor> erUSUL: and recommended from there ?
[15:45] <erUSUL> furythor: use the driver offered there yes. only if that fails you can try something else ... (like envyng)
[15:45] <archboxman> konman: click clock edit
[15:45] <ribot> hi, i just installed wu-ftpd, but it is not running, even after i start
[15:46] <archboxman> konman: is this google gadgets
[15:46] <Spanglish_7776> ribot, do you maybe have another ftp server running?
[15:46] <fucnqshun> hello is there a way to change the default ftp connection timeout value?
[15:46] <furythor> naah, I was just wondering if it had any benefits
[15:46] <konman> archboxman: i mean the base 16 where you count 0123456789abcdef
[15:46] <ribot> Spanglish_7776: no
[15:47] <Spanglish_7776> is it logging to syslog and any errors there?
[15:47] <Spanglish_7776> or a log of it's own
[15:47] <konman> archboxman: it's the clock in the upper right corner
[15:47] <furythor> rebooting
[15:47] <llutz> konman: who counts time like that? (just for couriosity)
[15:48] <Poundo> I just installed Karmic Koala's and a lamp stack and the httpd.conf is empty and everthing seems to be in the apache2.conf. So in this world is that my apache config file?
[15:48] <ribot> Spanglish_7776: i dont know
[15:48] <sipior> llutz: i think he just wants to see how much channel time he can waste :-)
[15:48] <ribot> dir is in /var/logs/wu-ftp but nothing written
[15:48] <archboxman> llutz: just to be diffucult or special
[15:48] <KaiForce> military uses 24 hour clock, not base 16
[15:49] <llutz> must be fullmoon again
[15:49] <Spanglish_7776> ribot: how are you starting (or trying to start) the server? sudo /etc/init.d/wu-ftpd possibly?
[15:49] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm
[15:49] <konman> llutz: it's a habit
[15:49] <Spanglish_7776> if you have ssh it may be listening on port 22 (sftp)
[15:49] <ribot> Spanglish_7776: yes, with the word start following
[15:49] <archboxman> KaiForce: im ex milltary dont swee the use of 16base clock
[15:49] <ribot> it is not running
[15:50] <ribot> after start no message is coming, and it is not running
[15:50] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm. when you try and start does it complain or just fail.
[15:50] <Spanglish_7776> gotcha
[15:50] <konman> sipior: no! i just didn't find it in google
[15:50] <KaiForce> archboxman:  i've never heard of it.  is it described online anywhere?
[15:50] <sipior> konman: go away.
[15:50] <llutz> konman: good exercise to write your own clock-applet
[15:51] <Spanglish_7776> ribot, what version of ubuntu?
[15:51] <konman> llutz: when i do it, will it get into main ubuntu?
[15:51] <konman> ^^
[15:51] <llutz> konman: try it, we'll see when finished
[15:51] <archboxman> count down till end of the world 2012
[15:52] <hipy> Hello i have a problem
[15:52] <konman> ok
[15:52] <hipy> im missing my icon in the taskbar with my username in it
[15:52] <llutz> konman:but you'd better take it to #ubuntu-offtopic right now
[15:52] <hipy> with the functions lock screen log out etc
[15:52] <ribot> Spanglish_7776: actually there was some other ftp server running, what i didnt know, which worked on port 22 '^^
[15:52] <hipy> how can i get it back
[15:52] <ribot> so thanks for help
[15:53] <Spanglish_7776> no problem
[15:53] <hipy> can sombody help me
[15:53] <konman> llutz: i have nothing more to add
[15:53] <Kerio> hello, im having problems with grub2, i need to edit grub so it will boot into my newly custom compiled kernel
[15:53] <hipy> im missing my username button at the top bar, its just missing
[15:54] <jm_> hola
[15:54] <petsounds> hipy, right click on the panel and add indicator applet session
[15:54] <erUSUL> !es | jm_
[15:54] <hipy> petsounds, that only added a mail button
[15:55] <hipy> my log screen log out and shutdown options that should be in that menu are index under system
[15:55] <hipy> indexed
[15:55] <archboxman> llutz: I beat that clock was to count something for science class...
[15:55] <jesus90> ols
[15:55] <konman> archboxman: nope
[15:56] <petsounds> hipy, humm.. open terminal and type    gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:56] <gsgleason> hipy, add indicator applet session to panel
[15:56] <hipy> petsounds, it allinged it all nice but nope didnt work
[15:57] <hipy> gsgleason, only ads mail icon
[15:57] <archboxman> konman: what this clock Greenwich Mean Time
[15:57] <freaky[t]> what do i do if i get the following error when compiling a program, i cant find anything on google: libtool: link: require no space between `-L' and `-lFLAC'
[15:58] <konman> archboxman: swiss time
[15:58] <hipy> petsounds, any idea?
[15:59] <gsgleason> hipy, not indicator applet, but indicator applet SESSION
[15:59] <jm_> hey hola
[15:59] <jm_> soy nuevo aqui en el XCHAT
[15:59] <Das_Flo> Hey everyone. I'm currently installing Ubuntu on a external Hdd. Does it make sense to have a seperate boot partition? If so, should that be ext3 or ext4? Does grub go to the root or /boot partition?
[15:59] <JonathanEllis> blak
[15:59] <jm_> any one speak spanish?
[15:59] <Ronnie_> I have a problem starting Ubuntu. I have installed Ubuntu inside Vista, however, every time I type in my username and password I get an 'Authention error'. Is this a common problem, and can anyone help to correct it?
[15:59] <DJones> !es | jm_
[15:59] <kazulu> si yo hablo español
[15:59] <kazulu> I speak english too
[15:59] <JonathanEllis> blakkheim: Thanks for the advice about dropbox. I will try that
[16:00] <jm_> ok, I got it
[16:00] <hipy> gsgleason, i do not have that option at add to
[16:00] <Spanglish_7776> I speak spanish as well, and english and sometimes spanish and english in the same sentence.
[16:00] <jm_> jeje
[16:00] <jm_> ok,
[16:00] <kazulu> remember that
[16:00] <jm_> para que sirve este chat? solo para ayuda de ubuntu?
[16:00] <sipior> Ronnie_: well, it's a common problem among folks who forget their password :-) sure you've got the right one? caps lock isn't on?
[16:01] <erUSUL> jm_: escribe "/j #ubuntu-es" sin las comillas y dale a enter
[16:01] <gsgleason> hipy, sudo apt-get install indicator-applet-session
[16:01] <jm_> #ubuntu-es
[16:01] <kazulu> I need friends that know about programing C/C++
[16:01] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[16:01] <Ronnie_> sipior I typed in te correct password
[16:01] <hipy> brb neet to relog
[16:01] <Trizicus> I'm trying to allow normal non root users to mount my sdc1 drive. However my fstab settings only allow for unmounting. I cannot mount the drive. I have my error  on pastebin can someone take a look? http://pastebin.com/m2962f701
[16:02] <Kerio> what do i have to do to get a normal grub window to conf :(
[16:02] <sipior> Ronnie_: you're sure about the username as well?
[16:03] <ashish> list
[16:03] <Ronnie_> sipior Yes
[16:03] <ashish> how to do file list?
[16:03] <kazulu> alguien sabe de c/C++ Sql y Ldap
[16:03] <Trizicus> I'm trying to allow normal non root users to mount my sdc1 drive. However my fstab settings only allow for unmounting. I cannot mount the drive. I have my error  on pastebin can someone take a look? http://pastebin.com/m2962f701
[16:04] <blakkheim> !repeat | Trizicus
[16:04] <tucemiux> kazulu, si encuentras ayuda en este cuarto va a tener que ser en ingles
[16:04] <KaiForce> kazulu preguntale en #ubuntu-es
[16:04] <ashish> !list
[16:04] <kazulu> Thanks too much at tucemiux and KaiForce
[16:04] <fangel> hola
[16:06] <tucemiux> can you install ubuntu on a flash drive using a machine that is already up and running without having to use the ISO?
[16:06] <TuckLive> Ubuntu Forums appears to be down.  Can't login.  Is this a scheduled down time?
[16:07] <the_real_dave> TuckLive: working just fine for me
[16:07] <sipior> Trizicus: the web page referenced in the error message seems to have a solution for you.
[16:07] <genii> TuckLive: Works here as well
[16:07] <Trizicus> sipior: Solution does not work; i've tried.
[16:07] <Ronnie_> I guess I'll have to create a new drive. Sipior, Thanks
[16:07] <sipior> Trizicus: which did you try?
[16:08] <tucemiux> Trizicus, that seems to be the wrong way to tackle the problem though, why give someone rights to mount drives? can you just mount the drive and then set permissions on the drive itself?
[16:08] <dbruns> i'm trying to mount a CIFS share and I've finally been able to get it mounted, but when I view the contents of the directory i see a bunch of odd characters.  I've tried adding iocharset=utf8 and removing it, I'm not sure what else to try..
[16:08] <TuckLive> Ok, must be on my side
[16:08] <chiiiiiz> hello
[16:08] <TuckLive> main page shows nobody on.
[16:09] <sipior> Trizicus: you've made ntfs-3g suid root?
[16:09] <chiiiiiz> all menu bars have gone on my nautilus... I can'ty go in the Preferences, or choose between a compact or list display...
[16:09] <chiiiiiz> How can I retrive it?
[16:10] <nvictor> hola..
[16:10] <Faithful> kamusta
[16:10] <Trizicus> sipior: yes
[16:10] <tucemiux> nvictor, el cuarto de ubuntu en espanol ya no sirve?
[16:10] <nvictor> how do i check the encoding of a shell in ubuntu?
[16:10] <sipior> Trizicus: and you've verified that you have correct permissions on the mount point?
[16:10] <nvictor> tucemiux: yo no hablo espanol
[16:10] <Trizicus> yes
[16:11] <nvictor> so any idea?
[16:11] <sipior> Trizicus: only other thing i can think of is the version of ntfs-3g. i assume you've checked that it is at least as recent as the version mentioned on the web page?
[16:11] <tucemiux> character encoding on a shell?!? must be a user specified setting
[16:12] <Faithful> nvictor, export ?
[16:12] <gerry__> !hi all
[16:12] <Faithful> nvictor, your env variables?
[16:12] <Trizicus> sipior: Yes it is latest
[16:12] <tucemiux> can you install ubuntu on a flash drive using a machine that is already up and running without having to use the ISO?
[16:12] <Trizicus> sipior: I can umount but I cant mount
[16:12] <chiiiiiz> hello
[16:12] <sipior> Trizicus: and if you replace "users" with just "user" in fstab?
[16:13] <Trizicus> sipior: Same thing
[16:13] <gerhard> list
[16:13] <chiiiiiz> I can't access my menus in Nautilus... the menu bar is gone, I can't modify my Preferences, nor choose between the Compat or List display... How can i retrieve it?
[16:13] <gerhard> #list
[16:13] <Pici> !list | gerhard
[16:13] <nvictor> !list
[16:13] <blakkheim> ...
[16:14] <gino> ciao a tutti
[16:14] <gino> !lista
[16:14] <nvictor> gino: ciao
[16:14] <tucemiux> chiiiiiz, thats a known issue, there should be a solution for it in the forums, do you know how to use the forum?
[16:14] <sipior> Trizicus: well, if you've checked permissions and everything else, i don't know what else to suggest. consider having a look at the ntfs-3g forums, perhaps someone else has a similar issue.
[16:15] <kazulu> I need friends for Programing.  my mesenger in prometeum_kaz@hotmail.com
[16:15] <natrixnatrix89> !sshd
[16:15] <chiiiiiz> Yes I do... I probably have chosen the wrong topics in my research...
[16:15] <Trizicus> sipior: I do not have to reload /etc/fstab after changing it correct?
[16:16] <sipior> Trizicus: no, the next mount command will check against the updated file.
[16:16] <kazulu> necesito amigos para q me ayuden a programar mi mesenger es prometeum_kaz@hotmail.comç
[16:16] <kazulu> necesito amigos para q me ayuden a programar mi mesenger es prometeum_kaz@hotmail.com
[16:16] <Timmarshall> yo dudes how do i find out how much memory is on my graphics card
[16:16] <kazulu> necesito amigos para q me ayuden a programar mi mesenger es prometeum_kaz@hotmail.com
[16:16] <kazulu> I need friends for Programing.  my mesenger in prometeum_kaz@hotmail.com
[16:16] <Trizicus> sipior: So then this obv a ntfs-3g problem
[16:16] <kad__> hey sup! need to ask =) why on ubuntu only one player can give sound if i open both!! only one give sound if i clolse the first one, the second one will give sound! thx
[16:16] <sipior> Trizicus: and interaction between ntfs-3g and mount, i would imagine.
[16:17] <bumbblebee> any channel on socket programming?
[16:17] <Timmarshall> how do i find how much memory my graphics card has???
[16:18] <tucemiux> !usb
[16:18] <bumbblebee> socket
[16:19] <Pelo> morning guys,   do we have a terminal command that will display the mobo model ?
[16:19] <natrixnatrix89> what was the command to find out other ip's on my lan?
[16:20] <bastid_raZor> Timmarshall: sudo lshw -c video   .. then you would probably google your card to see.
[16:20] <llutz> natrixnatrix89: nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24           if thats your subnet
[16:21] <erUSUL> Pelo: lshw or dmidecode (with sudo) will
[16:21] <natrixnatrix89> llutz: thanks!
[16:21] <Pelo> thanks erUSUL
[16:22] <erUSUL> Timmarshall: lspci -v | grep -A10 -i vga
[16:23] <llutz>  lspci -v | grep -A10 -i vga
[16:24] <llutz> sry
[16:24] <Timmarshall> so my graphic card is 256 Mb would that be correct
[16:25] <erUSUL> Timmarshall: probably mine is 256 MiB too
[16:25] <yaaar> howdy
[16:25] <erUSUL> Timmarshall: Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[16:25] <Timmarshall> thanks for your i appreciate it
[16:27] <pigdude> The other day it seems I accidentally installed some Ubuntu MySQL packages. For media support, oddly. Now I can't start my source dist. of MySQL on this machine. I've diffed my /etc/my.cnf and /etc/init.d/mysql, they are the same as the source dist. ones. What might have happened here?
[16:27] <pigdude> Starting MySQL\n * Couldn't find MySQL manager (/usr/bin/mysqlmanager) or server (/usr/bin/mysqld_safe)
[16:28] <pigdude> I am starting this as I always did, with /etc/init.d/mysql start
[16:28] <harisund> Hey guys I need to install nVidia drivers 190.53 .. are there any official ways to install this driver on Ubuntu?
[16:29] <JoshuaL> harisund, download + install them manual
[16:29] <erUSUL> !envyng | harisund
[16:30] <harisund> JoshuaL, how do I stop the X server first?
[16:30] <sipior> pigdude: your install of mysql wasn't in /usr/bin, was it?
[16:30] <pigdude> sipior, /usr/local/mysql
[16:30] <nastas> hi all
[16:30] <JoshuaL> harisund, ctrl+alt+f1 brings you to a tty thingy, there you can kill X
[16:30] <sipior> pigdude: the error clearly has the init script looking in /usr/bin. check that the init script does what you think it does :-)
[16:31] <harisund> JoshuaL, what's the command?
[16:32] <jesus90> HOLS
[16:32] <jesus90> OLA
[16:32] <pigdude> sipior, I imagine it's reading another my.cnf
[16:32] <sipior> pigdude: very likely
[16:33] <dust_> hi
[16:34] <mlistus> hi
[16:34] <theadmin> dust_, mlistus, hello.
[16:36] <xfact> Can anyone tell me, where does (Directory) Google Chrome saves it's history in the file system? (Ubuntu karmic)
[16:36] <pigdude> sipior, it appears that the file at /etc/mysql/my.cnf has somehow gained priority over /etc/my.cnf
[16:38] <en1gma> i just burnt the ubuntu 9.10 i386 dvd and was wondering is there an option to boot to ram
[16:38] <en1gma> i need to be able to take out the dvd so i can burn some dvds
[16:39] <theadmin> en1gma: There is... too bad I don't remember it :/
[16:39] <llutz> en1gma: there's no option
[16:39] <xfact> Can anyone tell me, where does (Directory) Google Chrome saves it's history in the file system? (Ubuntu karmic)
[16:39] <theadmin> llutz: No, there is a boot option of toram or something similar
[16:39] <en1gma> yea i probably burnt the wrong distro if i want to take out the dvd
[16:39] <theadmin> llutz: It has to be written manually in boot options :/
[16:40] <en1gma> some distros have the boot to ram option but i dont think ubuntu has it
[16:40]  * LasBuntu yawns
[16:40] <gaaara> does anyone know how to virtualise an existing partition of windows 7 from ubunut?
[16:40] <gaaara> ubuntu/
[16:41] <theadmin> en1gma: Follow the guide here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM#The%20Process
[16:41] <hichan> ola ruben
[16:41] <neptune_> does any one know why, when  I run "du -sh ." on a directory, I get a value which is bigger than the sum of all sizes I get when I run "du -sh *" ?
[16:41] <pigdude> I just deleted the mysql packages Ubuntu installed...who knows why anything like gstreamer-plugins-bad would need it...
[16:42] <gaaara> pigdude: dint it pop up as a dependency while deleting it?
[16:42] <llutz> theadmin: that uses a stripped-down iso, not the default live-cd
[16:42] <pigdude> gaaara, yep, I need my db more than media support
[16:42] <theadmin> llutz: Oh...
[16:43] <en1gma> i only have a 2gig sd card and that isnt enough to rip the dvd i dont think
[16:43] <en1gma> i think i just need a cd distro to load it into ram
[16:43] <jesus90> ola
[16:43] <llutz> en1gma: damnsmall, puppy
[16:43] <en1gma> anyone have a suggestion this will be for a toshiba laptop
[16:43] <gaaara> en1gma: satellite
[16:44] <theadmin> en1gma: Recovery purposes? Use either DamnSmallLinux or SystemRecoveryCd, both can boot to ram
[16:44] <llutz> en1gma: running from usb would be no option?
[16:44] <jellow_> im making a usb boot able linux , Should i write iso to /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb ?
[16:44] <en1gma> i only have a 2gig sd card
[16:44] <theadmin> jellow_: First one. Writing to device itself is generally a bad idea
[16:45] <gaaara> jellow_: u want to make it a startup booting usb or to run it from the usb?
[16:45] <llutz> theadmin: makes booting easier on usb-sticks
[16:45] <en1gma> basically the toshiba laptop probably has something major wrong with it....gonna try and restore the OS from the hidden partition but first i just want to pull all the pictures off it
[16:45] <jellow_> gaaara: jsut bootable using unetbootin
[16:46] <gaaara> en1gma: use systemrescue cd
[16:46] <gaaara> jellow_: sdb1
[16:46] <ZubrLNX> hey, i've got problem with sound on VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller. I've got rustle on my speakers, in all sound-levels... any help pls?
[16:46] <en1gma> you mean the cd that oomes with the laptop?
[16:46] <en1gma> this one dont have one
[16:46] <jesus90> como me conecto a una sala?
[16:46] <llutz> en1gma: no its a live-cd linux
[16:47] <KrisKo> this looks like death channel....creepy...
[16:47] <gaaara> en1gma: no...download systemrescue cd....install it into a usb, for getting ur photos out
[16:47] <jesus90> español ok
[16:47] <jesus90> capullo
[16:47] <gaaara> en1gma: or anything for that matter...it scans ur whole file system
[16:47] <Vingian> hello folks
[16:47] <jesus90> hello
[16:47] <llutz> en1gma: www.sysresccd.org
[16:47] <ZubrLNX> hey, i've got problem with sound on VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller. I've got rustle on my speakers, in all sound-levels... any help pls?
[16:48] <Vingian> i am having trouble getting the framebuffer to work on my tty consoles... i tried the grub2 gfxterm and gfxpayload attributes but that does not seem to help
[16:48] <Vingian> with gfxterm i grub2 seems to work - but when i set gfxpayload to keep
[16:48] <Sherlock> BAH
[16:48] <Vingian> i get no consoles - just a blinking cursor
[16:49] <Sherlock> antialising on the stupid ATI drivers does not do anything in window mode
[16:49] <jellow_> what file system should the bootable usb be ? ext ? fat ?
[16:49] <eXpl0i7> can somebody tell me how to kill some connection?
[16:49] <gaaara> jellow_: make it fat
[16:49] <Vingian> and if i set it to a resolution it seems to ignore the resolution and just display the 24*80 character console
[16:49] <Sherlock> Is it normal for antialisng to do nothing in window mode linux? with an ATI OEM driver?
[16:49] <theadmin> jellow_: FAT is best coz it is supported by everything
[16:49] <gaaara> jellow_: just incase u wanna read it from windows also
[16:51] <llutz> jellow_: fat32 has 4GB filesize-limitation
[16:51] <lucas14> t
[16:51] <dbruns> I'm getting some very odd characters when navigating a mounted network share on my ubuntu system, but the same command to mount the network share on my Suse system works fine.  what am I missing?
[16:52] <jellow_> ok thanks for you help everyone
[16:55] <Sherlock> did someone suggest he set his filesystem to FAT?
[16:55]  * Sherlock reads up
[16:55] <Sherlock> Oh, USB drive
[16:55] <Sherlock> nevermind
[16:55] <gaaara> does anyone know how to virtualise an existing partition of windows 7 from ubunut?
[16:55] <Sherlock> gaaara: please explain your question
[16:56] <gaaara> i already have windows 7 installed
[16:56] <Sherlock> and?
[16:56] <gaaara> i installed ubuntu over it
[16:56] <Sherlock> ok
[16:56] <erUSUL> gaaara: ask in #vbox i think mother vbox can do it
[16:56] <gaaara> tx m8
[16:56] <Sherlock> ohh, he wnats to run it in a VM
[16:56] <Sherlock> *wants
[16:56] <gaaara> yep
[16:57] <`mOOse`> usb
[16:57] <Sherlock> I was thinking you were trying to mount a partition and saying it funny
[16:57] <`mOOse`> very different
[16:57] <gaaara> apart from vbox do u know if xen or vmware or anything else has actually been done
[16:57] <`mOOse`> there's 2 methods to installing on a usb
[16:57] <leosan> \join #archlinux
[16:57] <`mOOse`> one is replicating the live environment and the other is to make the install like a regular hd
[16:57] <`mOOse`> and actually there's the 3rd which is persistent
[16:58] <gaaara> `mOOse`: are u talking to me/
[16:58] <`mOOse`> the live and persistent use fat32 fs
[16:58] <gaaara> ?
[16:58] <`mOOse`> no jellow_  actually
[16:58] <genii> !who
[16:58] <gaaara> yep
[16:59] <`mOOse`> well, actually to Sherlock jellow_  and anyone else following the conversation
[17:00] <tucemiux> can you install karmic on a USB drive using Unetbootin?   In the distribution setting the latest distro I can use is 9.04 Live
[17:00] <gaaara> erUSUL: the vbox channel is absolutely dead
[17:00] <gaaara> erUSUL: no one is talking!!!
[17:00] <jellow_> `mOOse`: Indeed, Thank you.
[17:01] <erUSUL> gaaara: no my fault ;)
[17:01] <tucemiux> gaaara, yes it is, if you have a question about vbox ask it here and if someone knows the answer they will surely reply, also make an attempt at being corteous to the users who log in to help
[17:01] <harisund> Am I gonna lose anything if I run Ubuntu 9.04? The nVidia website says they have CUDA SDK for Ubuntu 9.04 and I need to do CUDA programming
[17:01] <gaaara> tucemiux: ofcourse im being thankful to erUSUL
[17:02] <tucemiux> harisund, it all depends on your setup, what do you currently have installed and in what hard drive?
[17:02] <gaaara> well i guess i just have to ask my qsn again
[17:02] <gaaara> how do i virtualise an existing windows 7 partition as guest OS while im in UBUNTU being the host
[17:03] <gaaara> ?
[17:03] <harisund> tucemix I have a Quadro NVS 290, which is supposedly CUDA enabled. nVidia website says I need to use 190.53 drivers (amd64). Is Ubuntu a good choice?
[17:03] <bubulein> hi, i have a problem. i have installed windows and lucid with grub1 ( sda1 windows extended, sda2 ubuntu, sda3 swap, sda4 and windows where the windows installation is on sda5) when i try to boot windows i get the message - starting up ... and then the system do nothing. ubuntu is booting finde. u can find a snipped of my menue.lst at http://pastebin.org/88948
[17:04] <harisund> tucemix so what's the verdict? Ubuntu 9.04, Quadro NVS 290, nVidia 190.53 a good combination?
[17:05] <tucemiux> harisund, youre not making any sense, state the problem correctly
[17:05] <tucemiux> bubulein, lucid is not supported here, try #ubuntu+1
[17:05] <harisund> tucemix I don't have any OS installed currently, I am trying to figure out on which OS I can code CUDA easily
[17:05] <bubulein> tucemiux: ist more a grub one package
[17:06] <bubulein> tucemiux: and grub1 isnt suported at lucid
[17:06] <tucemiux> bubulein, but youre using it on lucid, the problem could be with lucid, someone in that support channel wants to hear about the problem
[17:06] <bubulein> ok thx
[17:07] <harisund> tucemix did I make any sense now?
[17:07] <tucemiux> harisund, I see now, CUDA is like a software development platform for nVIDIA technology?
[17:07] <harisund> tucemiux, yes yes .it's a proprietary API for using the nVidia GPUs
[17:07] <nickkontos> help! my pc is shutting down unexpected! It usually happens while i'm viewing a flash video or playing a game. I upgraded my graphics card but still... xp does the same... is there any log that i can read in my pc so i can figure out what's the problem?
[17:08] <harisund> tucemiux, sorry I assumed you knew what CUDA was. It's like a GPU programming language for nVidia GPUs basically
[17:08] <llutz> nickkontos: check cpu temperatures
[17:09] <nickkontos> llutz: how can i do this in ubuntu?
[17:09] <nahtnoj> Hi
[17:09] <tucemiux> harisund, karmic is supposed to be the most up to date ubuntu distribution, it's supposed to support a lot of hardware unfortunately as you can verify for yourself, there's always issues with nvidia drivers on ubuntu, ATI is even more horrible
[17:09] <llutz> nickkontos: use lmsensors
[17:09] <Evgenii> Íà Êàíàëå #ubuntu Íå Ôëóäèòå!
[17:10] <llutz> nickkontos: lm-sensors
[17:10] <harisund> tucemiux, hmmm
[17:10] <tucemiux> harisund, what OS do you currently have on your hard drive?
[17:10] <obiwan_> hey guys, please one  question
[17:10] <Evgenii> àààààóóóóó
[17:10] <harisund> tucemiux, none .. I am trying to find out on which Linux distro the proprietary nVidia drivers can be loaded easily
[17:11] <Sjekkie> hi
[17:11] <obiwan_> does rsync use also remote journal? i mean, if there's some interrupting during the sync, will the remote fs automatically return to its previous state?
[17:11] <nickkontos> llutz I've just installed them with apt-get, now what?
[17:11] <obiwan_> i mean, with the current modifying file
[17:11] <Sjekkie> does anyone here know how to install the Flinger module for Festival Speech Synthesizer?
[17:11] <Evgenii> Íåðóññêèå ÷òîëè?
[17:11] <obiwan_> 'sup Evgenii ?
[17:12] <Evgenii> » obiwan_ » ÷¸÷¸?
[17:12] <llutz> nickkontos: sudo sensors-detect   and follow instrutions
[17:12] <tucemiux> harisund, the reason I use ubuntu is because it's fast and the hardware actually works, you can try most operating systems if you have a decent sized hard drive, you can dual/triple/as much as you want boot and test for yourself
[17:12] <obiwan_> you talking?
[17:12] <Sherlock> join #askreddit
[17:12] <Sherlock> er
[17:12] <obiwan_> i get symbols Evgenii
[17:12] <Sherlock>  /join :P
[17:12] <FloodBot4> Sherlock: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:12] <obiwan_> no words at all
[17:12] <Timmarshall> hi im on the canonical webpage looking at the recycled laptop bag would they be possible to do it in 15.6inches
[17:12] <Evgenii> » obiwan_ » how do you do&
[17:13] <tucemiux> harisund, you might also want to ask in #ubuntu+1 and specifically ask for a developer and let them know what you want to do
[17:13] <obiwan_> ok now it works Evgenii
[17:13] <obiwan_>  i was receiving strange letters from u hehe
[17:13] <harisund> tucemiux, I think I am going to make a post on nVidia's forums asking for which OS would work best with my graphics cards :)
[17:13] <nickkontos> llutz, ok, now?
[17:13] <llutz> nickkontos: load shown modules, "sensors"
[17:13] <Evgenii> ÷óâàêè, èç áåëàðóñè êòî-íèòü åñòü?
[17:14] <PaNiKinFlammeS> y a t'il quelquunr ?
[17:14] <kudlaty> jak mogę dodać informację o prędkości wentylatora na procku do conky?
[17:14] <PaNiKinFlammeS> quelqu'un peut il m expliquer le principe ?
[17:14] <brandonban6> so today, compiz just decided not to load... and I can't figure out where to even begin troubleshooting. I run compiz --replace and it it sort of wigs out for a second like it's trying to load, but then doesn't. Any thoughts on where to start?
[17:15] <Myrtti> !ru | Evgenii
[17:15] <Screamo_Smurf> Im trying to Share files/folders over my network, and it says windows file sharing service not installed, when i click install i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372599/
[17:15] <Evgenii> » ubottu » ñïàñèï ÷óâàê
[17:16] <Myrtti> !fr | PaNiKinFlammeS
[17:16] <nickkontos> llutz, ok, my cpu is 49C and my graphics card is 36C. I'm currently running firefox with a youtube playlist
[17:16] <Evgenii> êòî-íèòü çíàåò ÷òî òàêîå õóé?
[17:16] <Evgenii> )))
[17:16] <llutz> nickkontos: play some games, work with your pc and watch temps
[17:16] <Sjekkie> Evgenii, you speek english?
[17:17] <nickkontos> llutz, and my cpu usage is nearly 50%
[17:17] <nickkontos> ok
[17:17] <Myrtti> !pl | kudlaty
[17:17] <Evgenii> » Sjekkie » no, i russian
[17:17] <Evgenii> no speek english
[17:17] <llutz> !ru | Evgenii
[17:17] <Sjekkie> Evgenii, Vi parolas Esperanton?
[17:18] <Screamo_Smurf> Im trying to Share files/folders over my network, and it says windows file sharing service not installed, when i click install i get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372599/
[17:18] <brandonban6> so today, compiz just decided not to load... and I can't figure out where to even begin troubleshooting. I run compiz --replace and it it sort of wigs out for a second like it's trying to load, but then doesn't. Any thoughts on where to start?
[17:18] <Evgenii> » Sjekkie » you english?
[17:18] <Sjekkie> no, dutch
[17:18] <Sjekkie> the netherland
[17:18] <VCoolio> Screamo_Smurf: apparently your package server is down, try something else; in /etc/apt/sources.list change .us to .ca (canada) for example
[17:18] <Sjekkie> *netherlands
[17:18] <VCoolio> \me guesses Sjekkie is a smoker
[17:18] <tucemiux> does unetbootin create a USB installation that allows you to install software on the USB drive?
[17:18] <Sjekkie> VCoolio, good guess
[17:18] <Myrtti> Evgenii: /join #ubuntu-ru
[17:18] <Sjekkie> Evgenii, where you from?
[17:19] <Sjekkie> Myrtti, you sure hes russian?
[17:19] <Evgenii> äà áëÿ ÿ óæå òàì ñèæó, íå ïèçäèòå áëèí
[17:19] <Sjekkie> Myrtti, i can see russian stuff here
[17:19] <Evgenii> çàåáëàëè
[17:19] <blakkheim> 12:17 < Evgenii> » Sjekkie » no, i russian
[17:19] <VCoolio> brandonban6: any useful output if you do compiz --replace in a terminal?
[17:19] <Screamo_Smurf> VCoolio this has been going on for over 2 weeks
[17:19] <Sjekkie> ok
[17:19] <nickkontos> llutz, ok, so when it's on 100% usage it's 55C
[17:20] <Evgenii> » blakkheim » åáàëî çàáåé
[17:20] <Sjekkie> i could recognize russian when ubottu typed it
[17:20] <aloja> hi there
[17:20] <franklu> I would like to set up a ubuntu cluster with my boxes can you please give me the step by step on how to do that?
[17:20] <Myrtti> Evgenii: this channel is English
[17:20] <VCoolio> Screamo_Smurf: what version of ubuntu? anyway, in synaptic of software sources, change your repository country and see if that helps; or edit the file like I said
[17:20] <Evgenii> äà ìíå ïîõóé íà êàêîì ÿçûêå òóò áàçàðÿò
[17:20] <Evgenii> ÿ ðóñêèé áëÿ
[17:21] <Screamo_Smurf> 9.10
[17:21] <Sjekkie> franklu, step 1: go to google.com
[17:21] <blakkheim> Evgenii is going on ignore
[17:21] <franklu> yeah i used google already
[17:21] <Evgenii> » blakkheim » íó è ïàøîë òû íàõóé, äîëáà¸á
[17:21] <Sjekkie> franklu, step 2: type 'ubuntu cluster howto'
[17:21] <llutz> cant one just kick him....
[17:21] <jrtayloriv> I clicked "Always take this action" to make it where when I plug in my digital camera, it opens up F-spot. How do I undo this, so that F-Spot doesn't open. I want to use gphoto instead
[17:21] <brandonban6> VCoolio, I run that, it gives some errors such Xgl: not present, xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fall back .. xorg... , checking for from pixmap: not present, aborting and using fall back, which is metacity
[17:21] <franklu> can you please give the link you are talking about?
[17:22] <Screamo_Smurf> VCoolio still nothing
[17:22] <Screamo_Smurf> and those files arent found on the server
[17:22] <Evgenii> áþ.
[17:22] <duckx0r> does anyone know what could cause my hard drive to spontaneously disconnect itself from this laptop until I reboot? i'm assuming it's a loose connection somewhere, but i don't know where to look
[17:22] <enrico_> can i have italian channel address thank you
[17:22] <llutz> !it
[17:22] <blakkheim> !it
[17:22] <Evgenii> âñ¸, ïîêà ÷óâàêè, ïàøîë ÿ
[17:23] <Evgenii> Ïðåò |dinya_|
[17:23] <llutz> !ops | Evgenii
[17:23] <Rix> hi, I use adsl net with wireless router. currently dhcp server is enabled and i get ip automaticly. I am trying to use NAT(napt) to redirect port from the router to the computer, so that i can use web/ftp etc servers and to be accessible from outside world. DO I need to DISABLE dhcp mode?
[17:23] <jeff__> mp3quebec
[17:23] <tucemiux> duckx0r, a hardware failure could cause that.  The hardware doesnt list itself when you run "sudo fdisk -l"
[17:23] <blakkheim> thank you Myrtti :(
[17:23] <duckx0r> tucemiux, it's definitely hardware.
[17:23] <nickkontos> llutz, ok, but the question still remains, why did this happened suddendly?
[17:23] <Rix> and to obtain ip static
[17:23] <Rix> not dinamic
[17:23] <Rix> ?
[17:24] <jrtayloriv> I clicked "Always take this action" to make it where when I plug in my digital camera, it opens up F-spot. How do I undo this, so that F-Spot doesn't open? I want to use gphoto instead of F-Spot...
[17:24] <VCoolio> brandonban6: can you open ccsm? what if you reset compiz to default?
[17:24] <_UsUrPeR_> can somebody tell me how I can allow passwordless login for multiple users on ubuntu 9.10?
[17:24] <enrico_> ciao
[17:25] <llutz> nickkontos: watch it for longer time, maybe it gives you an idea
[17:25] <duckx0r> _UsUrPeR_, sudo passwd -d username i think
[17:25] <Sjekkie> franklu, http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/Building-a-Beowulf-Cluster-in-just-13-steps-.html
[17:25] <StReYiiTaH> hola
[17:25] <_UsUrPeR_> duckx0r: will that totally remove the need for users to specify their password? I.e. click on name in gdm and user logs in...
[17:26] <duckx0r> _UsUrPeR_, i thought that's what you wanted
[17:26] <_UsUrPeR_> duckx0r: that is what I want :) I'll give it a shot
[17:27] <enrico_> i want speak in italian
[17:27] <jesus90> NOOB
[17:27] <jesus90> ITALIAN
[17:27] <sipior> jesus90: does your mother know where you are?
[17:27] <sipior> enrico_: you're looking for #ubuntu-it, i believe
[17:27] <Sjekkie> yes
[17:28] <VCoolio> Screamo_Smurf: what version of ubuntu (not one that isn't supported anymore)? can you install anything? what if you in software sources first tab change server to download from?
[17:28] <woodyjlw> in linux security is it recommended to have 2 passwords? user and root?  I may need some help understanding how that works and how I can set it up properly
[17:28] <enrico_> thanky jesus very nice
[17:29] <jrtayloriv> woodyjlw, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:29] <Sjekkie> sipior, what did jesus90 say?
[17:29] <Screamo_Smurf> VCoolio v 9.10 and this is the only thing i have problems downloading
[17:29] <Sjekkie> sipior, you scared him away?
[17:29] <VCoolio> woodyjlw: that's a bit difficult because different linux distros do that in a different way; in ubuntu there is just you with a sudo password
[17:29] <mdisieno> while attempting to update i recieve this error http://dpaste.com/156641/, is their a repository constantly down?
[17:29] <diddy> Could anybody please tell me how to format a USB stick with fat32 so it works with consumer DVD players for TV?
[17:29] <nyangz> excuse me, I've a problem with my left mouse button. Any idea what's going on? I'm new to Linux and this problem occured without any tampering..
[17:29] <sipior> Sjekkie: it's considered impolite to call folks "noob" in this channel. actually, not just here...
[17:30] <k4rt33k> nyangz: Cantou describe your problem?
[17:30] <Sjekkie> sipior, ah yes i see now
[17:30] <Deliim> etre ami §§§§§§§§§§§§§§§?
[17:30] <VCoolio> Screamo_Smurf: what if you install samba via synaptic / terminal instead of clicking the filebrowser dialogue?
[17:30] <nyangz> It seems that my right click doesnt work unless i right click a toolbar
[17:30] <bdheeman> diddy: create a partition type a5
[17:30] <nyangz> i mean
[17:31] <nyangz> my left click
[17:31] <dbruns> I'm having issues with character encodings (i think)  here is the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1402679
[17:31] <dbruns> can someone please help?
[17:31] <Deliim> les gens raisonnaables
[17:31] <diddy> bdheeman, a5? Not B0?
[17:31] <k4rt33k> nyangz: did you try pressing escape or logging out and logging in?
[17:31] <Sjekkie> sipior, yes, you're right. that's something only 14year old gamers say, when they play halo, wow, chess, and such
[17:31] <woodyjlw> VCoolio,  if I had root password aand user password different in ubuntu would I have to log in as root to do admin stuff or install software?
[17:31] <Myrtti> !fr | Deliim
[17:31] <nyangz> i've restarted, logged out and even reinstalled linux. but the problem seems to stay.
[17:32] <bdheeman> diddy: sorry, a5 is ntfs
[17:32] <Deliim> ubotto je sais
[17:32] <Screamo_Smurf> VCoolio apt-get update fixed it lol
[17:32] <bdheeman> diddy: let me check
[17:32] <laen> When you set "No localisation" at install time, does that mean stuff like utf8 won't work?
[17:32] <Screamo_Smurf> for some reason i was thinking that that would update everything
[17:32] <owner> Does gksudo respect exceptions made via visudo? I'm writing a script that allows users to reboot without su priviledges. my visudo edit is "guest ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/sbin/reboot,/home/guest/reboot_link.sh". when started from a launcher (gksu /home/guest/reboot_link.sh), it still asks for a pwd. when gksu is excluded from the launcher, the script doesn't work...
[17:32] <VCoolio> woodyjlw: that's the idea, in ubuntu there is no root; there is the user that gets root permissions as far as I understand it
[17:32] <k4rt33k> hmmm try adding i8042.reset to the kernel line
[17:33] <Screamo_Smurf> finaly be able to stream everything to my xbox :D
[17:33] <nyangz> @_@ im confused..
[17:33] <nyangz> lol.
[17:33] <k4rt33k> nyangz: while booting press e and type i8042.reset and continue booting
[17:33] <laen> owner: that would be a very, very bad idea
[17:33] <owner> laen: i don't understand what would?
[17:33] <k4rt33k> nyangz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1098767
[17:33] <nyangz> sorry for sounding inexperienced but.. exactly when does the booting process take part
[17:34] <sipior> owner: try it with gksudo.
[17:34] <bdheeman> diddy: either 0C or 0B
[17:34] <sipior> owner: (gksu is not the same thing: consult the man page)
[17:34] <diddy> bdheeman, I am using cfdisk, made a bootable /dev/sdd1 partition and chose both 0C and 0B but it doesn't work.
[17:34] <woodyjlw> VCoolio,  ok then I really dont need to worry about a root password for ubuntu... and that is why I have to type sudo before most commands in terminal then? sudo is asking for password to make sure I am root?
[17:34] <k4rt33k> nyangz: The thread is meant to be when your keypad or mouse doesn't work but i think it might work for you too
[17:35] <k4rt33k> nyangz: booting starts when your grub loads and you are asked to choose a kernel
[17:35] <owner> sipior: that's what i'm doing. this is a non-persistent machine for public use. at no time should the user be given/asked a pwd, but needs to be able to reboot (that's when the system pxe boots)
[17:35] <VCoolio> woodyjlw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo and sudo checks if you are allowed to have root permissions; the administrator sets that for different users
[17:35] <nyangz> Oh.. That's going to be a problem because I'm not asked to choose a kernel =/
[17:36] <ZimCS> Hi everyone.  I just build a machine to use as a home server and am using two 500GB drives that I'd like to setup using Raid 1.  When I am doing an install of Ubuntu Server, is there a recommended way I should partition the disks?  Ex: a partition for just the OS, another for users, etc?
[17:36] <bdheeman> diddy: you can check/view the type of working one with cfdisk or fdisk
[17:36] <k4rt33k> nyangz: u on karmic?
[17:36] <woodyjlw> VCoolio,  thanks
[17:36] <nyangz> I'm using the ubunto 9.10 on gnome
[17:36] <diddy> bdheeman, is it possible to set a label with cfdisk?
[17:36] <LordNAlt> apw: in response to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/516923 isn't the reason those proflifc pl25a1-based usb-usb 'transfer' cables (like the belkin F5U258 'easy transfer cable') don't work because the patch at http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/86240 was never applied upstream?
[17:36] <sipior> owner: you're currently using gksu, not gksudo, or do i misunderstand you?
[17:37] <owner> sipior: i see.. i missed the gksudo part... thought you were talking about gksu... i'll give gksudo a try.. TY
[17:37] <Amanda98> ola
[17:37] <VCoolio> nyangz: in 9.10 grub chooses the most recent kernel automatically, if you want choice keep left shift pressed while grub is loading
[17:37] <bdheeman> diddy: have not checked
[17:37] <Amanda98> qien nes sis
[17:37] <k4rt33k> VCoolio: Thanks didnt know grub 2 did that
[17:37] <erUSUL> !es | Amanda98
[17:38] <nyangz> Okay thank you. I'll try it out now. Be right back.n
[17:38] <Amanda98> a vale
[17:38] <sipior> owner: bit dicey allowing users to run a script as root, btw. i'd think very carefully about alternative solutions to the problem, and be *very* careful about the contents of that shell script :-)
[17:38] <Amanda98> me voi xao
[17:38] <NetAdmin_UTG> i need a help
[17:39] <NetAdmin_UTG> failed to contact configuration save: some are that you need to enable tcp/ip networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due system cras. chttp//www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/for information. (details:1:could not send message to GCONF DAEMON: message did not received reply(timeout by message bus))
[17:39] <NetAdmin_UTG> i have this error see above
[17:39] <NetAdmin_UTG> can any one help me out
[17:40] <owner> sipior: this is really it> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/372614/. any alternatives?
[17:40] <VCoolio> k4rt33k: you can set it up in /etc/default/grub if you want the menu by default
[17:40] <owner> sipior: without the dot http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/372614/
[17:41] <NetAdmin_UTG> who can help me
[17:41] <NetAdmin_UTG> i cant login my computer
[17:42] <NetAdmin_UTG> its show me error code:failed to contact configuration save: some are that you need to enable tcp/ip networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due system cras. chttp//www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/for information. (details:1:could not send message to GCONF DAEMON: message did not received reply(timeout by message bus)
[17:42] <zilkomaa_> how to update newest alsa-driver from terminal?
[17:42] <sipior> owner: does the user need to be able to shut the machine off? maybe just go to standby when inactive?
[17:42] <erUSUL> zilkomaa_: install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[17:43] <NetAdmin_UTG> i do reboot it yet still the same error
[17:43] <zilkomaa_> erUSUL: Ty.
[17:43] <Sherlock> naming conventions ftw
[17:43] <owner> sipior: reboot is crucial
[17:43] <LordNAlt> apw: i gtg, msg me (or Lord_Nightmare) if needed
[17:43] <woodyjlw> how do I learn to compile software on ubuntu? Not all software is GDebi package installer and I have seen some stuff that requires more skilled users.. is there a good website that would have some info about compiling software?
[17:43] <erUSUL> !compile | woodyjlw
[17:43] <NetAdmin_UTG> i am very new in Linux world can some one help me out please
[17:43] <woodyjlw> thanks
[17:44] <NetAdmin_UTG> failed to contact configuration save: some are that you need to enable tcp/ip networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due system cras. chttp//www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/for information. (details:1:could not send message to GCONF DAEMON: message did not received reply(timeout by message bus))
[17:44] <cool> !audio
[17:45] <CosmiChaos> i created a ramdisk via ext2-method for testing purpose and now removed the script, the autostart-entry, unmounten the device und removed the mountpoint. i just need to know how to stop it reserving kernel-memory, just removing the kernel mode line wont fix it or how to remove the partition / undo that: sudo mke2fs -m 0 /dev/ram0. Any ideas?
[17:45] <NetAdmin_UTG> failed to contact configuration save: some are that you need to enable tcp/ip networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due system cras. chttp//www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/for information. (details:1:could not send message to GCONF DAEMON: message did not received reply(timeout by message bus))
[17:45] <nyangz> mmm..
[17:45] <Myrtti> !repeat | NetAdmin_UTG
[17:45] <nyangz> holding down the left shift didnt work for me..
[17:45] <NetAdmin_UTG> who can help me
[17:46] <nyangz> on the other hand, my left mouse click still doesn't work. sigh
[17:46] <NetAdmin_UTG> failed to contact configuration save: some are that you need to enable tcp/ip networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due system cras. chttp//www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/for information. (details:1:could not send message to GCONF DAEMON: message did not received reply(timeout by message bus))
[17:46] <VCoolio> nyangz: ? that's the default way of forcing the grub menu to show; try to edit /etc/default/grub properly, then 'sudo update-grub' then reboot
[17:47] <myk_robinson> Any of you guys have the Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M? Curious as to how it performs, out looking for a new laptop.
[17:47] <nyangz> edit meaning using the terminal?
[17:47] <owner> sipior: still having trouble...the username is "guest", is this correct> "guest ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/sbin/reboot"?
[17:47] <blakkheim> myk_robinson: badly, just as all intel graphics do
[17:47] <VCoolio> nyangz: yes, you comfortable with nano or wish gedit?
[17:47] <blakkheim> nyangz: use vi
[17:47] <myk_robinson> blakkheim: that's what i figured, although I anted to double check and see if it has improved.. Hard to find laptops with nVidia around here
[17:47] <owner> sipior:be it> "guest ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/sbin/reboot,/home/guest/reboot_link.sh"?
[17:48] <nyangz> mm unfortunately, i've yet to try out either. i just installed linux and i've practically no knowledge about linux whatsoever @_@
[17:48] <fohos_> how can i see all user's running processes - ps -aux?
[17:48] <sipior> owner: does the script have the appropriate execute bit set?
[17:48] <blakkheim> fohos_: ps aux
[17:49] <VCoolio> nyangz: ok, then in a terminal 'gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub'  and change line 4 to "GRUB_DEFAULT=1"
[17:49] <blakkheim> VCoolio: s/gksudo gedit/sudo vi
[17:49] <fohos_> i see only mine
[17:49] <fohos_> do i need to be root to see all ps?
[17:49] <VCoolio> blakkheim: yeah yeah, but he's uncomfortable with a terminal so that seems unwise to advise
[17:50] <fohos_> guys do I need to be root to see all running processes ?
[17:50] <cooop3r> hi
[17:50] <nyangz> so after changing it, what do i do?
[17:50] <owner> sipior: +x is there...it executes ok, zenity validates ok, but it dies on the "gksudo /sbin/reboot". should i also allow /sbin/shutdown?
[17:50] <nyangz> i've already cahnged it to grub_default=1
[17:50] <aolja> no u don't
[17:50] <cooop3r> what application can i use for ubuntu to write ISOs?
[17:50] <Timmarshall> what would all of yu say if someone says to you ubuntu linux is rubbish
[17:51] <aolja> brasero burns cd
[17:51] <erUSUL> cooop3r: right click on it choose write to disk
[17:51] <Edward123> hey
[17:51] <sipior> owner: shouldn't need to. any error message?
[17:51] <fohos_> ps aux does not show all running processes
[17:51] <VCoolio> nyangz: you mean it was already there or you're ready for the next step?
[17:51] <Edward123> how can i access 'Applications', 'Places', and 'System' with keyboard shortcuts?
[17:51] <erUSUL> fohos_: i does not ?
[17:51] <nyangz> im ready for the next step
[17:51] <cooop3r> erUSUL, im burning an ubuntu disk on ubuntu.. so all i need to do is download the ISO then right click on it?
[17:51] <sipior> owner: and it's "gksudo <script>", right?
[17:51] <VCoolio> nyangz: ok, close gedit, and in terminal 'sudo update-grub' to make it aware of the change
[17:51] <erUSUL> cooop3r: yes that works
[17:51] <VCoolio> nyangz: then reboot and hope for the best
[17:52] <cooop3r> thank you erUSUL
[17:52] <erUSUL> cooop3r: brasero can do it too and cdrecord or growisofs in terminal
[17:52] <erUSUL> !iso | cooop3r
[17:52] <nyangz> okay thanks
[17:52] <cooop3r> k
[17:52] <nyangz> just to be sure, this is likely to fix my left mouse problem right?
[17:52] <Guest34562> ciao
[17:53] <anodesni> Anybody here with CUDA experience?
[17:53] <Deliim> yes
[17:53] <Guest34562> !list
[17:54] <anodesni> how can I change dimGrid ?
[17:54] <enrico_> give me addres italian again,sorry
[17:54] <owner> sipior: that's right, no errors are given, but gksudo still asks for a pwd (from the launcher)... does gksudo respect the exceptions made via visudo?
[17:54] <Deliim> teest
[17:54] <sipior> owner: yes. try adding the "-d" switch to debug gksudo.
[17:54] <fohos> does anyone know if the command is the same in bsd?
[17:55] <enrico_> i dont remamber italian channel
[17:56] <Diverdude> is it possible to get different background images on the different desktop?
[17:56] <owner> sipior: how do i catch the output? from terminal, the script works perfectly, but the launcher "guest ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/sbin/reboot" still asks for pwd.
[17:56] <owner> sipior: got the output...
[17:56] <enrico_> help me
[17:57] <sipior> !it > enrico_
[17:58] <Diverdude> is it possible to get different background images on the different desktop?
[18:01] <nyangz> mm left click still doesnt work. any other suggestions? T_T
[18:01] <blakkheim> nyangz: get a different mouse?
[18:01] <nyangz> tried using a different mouse
[18:01] <Deliim> Coucou ici
[18:01] <nyangz> still the same thing happens
[18:01] <arvind_khadri> Diverdude, yes, using compiz
[18:02] <Deliim> ubuntu bientot payanyt ?
[18:02] <blakkheim> Deliim: english please
[18:02] <Deliim> cette merde ?
[18:02] <nyangz> could it be that maybe my computer isn't compatible with ubuntu 9.10?
[18:02] <k4rt33k> nyangz: What is your computer?
[18:02] <owner> sipior: output is... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/372642/
[18:02] <Deliim> blacvk vous mavait ejecter
[18:02] <k4rt33k> Is it a laptop?
[18:02] <Deliim> encule de juif
[18:02] <blakkheim> !fr | Deliim
[18:02] <nyangz> It's a desktop
[18:03] <Deliim> ubottu je suis mort d ailloirs
[18:04] <k4rt33k> !hn | k4rt33k
[18:04] <ajay> hi there
[18:05] <Timmarshall> hi
[18:05] <k4rt33k> nyangz: Hmmm...it should not happen. Try posting it in the forums.  My laptop also had mouse issues with 9.10. Try 9.04 which is pretty smooth
[18:05] <thulsa> hello, folks. anyone around here know of a way to change the status of an installed package to NOT be included in autoremove?
[18:05] <CosmiChaos> Does the tracker-applet icon still exists in Karmic?
[18:05] <nyangz> okay. thanks. =]
[18:05] <k4rt33k> thulsa: remove the others manually if there aren't many
[18:06] <oru_work> how can I archive a folder with its contents to a .zip in terminal ?
[18:06] <thulsa> so nobody knows then...
[18:06] <Jeny> есть вопрос, русские здесь присудствуют?)))))
[18:06] <k4rt33k> oru_work: man zip will tell you all you want
[18:06] <erUSUL> !ru | Jeny
[18:06] <blakkheim> thulsa: use aptitude instead of apt-get
[18:06] <blakkheim> thulsa: or manually reinstall just that one package with apt-get
[18:07] <sipior> owner: you said the script works correctly when run directly from sudo?
[18:07] <blakkheim> oru_work: zip file.zip /directory/to/files
[18:07] <thulsa> blakkheim: i'll check into the aptitude thing, reinstalling migth be my option, however as it's somethign i compiled myself
[18:07] <arvind_khadri> ajay, hi
[18:07] <owner> sipior: affirmative.
[18:08] <thulsa> blakkheim: so for aptitude, do i use the same syntax, with aptitude instead of apt-get?
[18:08] <blakkheim> thulsa: aptitude has a few small differences, might want to check the manpage
[18:09] <Cybodog> I have kvm and kvm_amd in /etc/modules but they are not loaded at boot time, but will modprobe.  How do I get them to load at boot?
[18:09] <sipior> owner: what happens if you try using the -S switch to gksudo? (should be redundant, but...)
[18:10] <erUSUL> Cybodog: works for me... can you post the modules file and the dmesg ?
[18:10] <sipior> owner: ah no, never mind: i see it's in the verbose log you posted.
[18:10] <Cybodog> erUSUL, yes, did not think of dmesg
[18:10] <Trek> Cybodog: post it to a pastebin though, or you might get banned here
[18:10] <Cybodog> no newbie here
[18:11] <Cybodog> but thanks for the advise
[18:11] <Cybodog> http://pastebin.org/89000  modules
[18:11] <abu1230> hi
[18:12] <owner> sipior: it seems to validate fine the problem is the actual "(gk)sudo /sbin/reboot". that's when I still get asked for a pwd, regardless of my sudoers settings
[18:12] <thulsa> blakkheim: but work-arounds are my only option, you're saying? there's no way just to take something off of the "auto-remove" list?
[18:12] <Francisco> Hola
[18:12] <Trek> !hi | abu1230 and Francisco
[18:13] <Francisco> Hola
[18:13] <Francisco> hay alguien?
[18:13] <Cybodog> brain damage on the dmeg, working onit.
[18:13] <Trek> !es | Francisco
[18:14] <becker_11> Hi I've found a ssh tutorial and it says to enter "ssh yourusername@yourhomeaddress" but I've only got an ip not a domain and I couldn't get it too work
[18:14] <fabio> i0m using kde 4.4 with compiz, do you how to get shadows for the kde menus?
[18:14] <Poundo> anyone know if there is a way to do something like username-password@http://mysite.com just a general how to question
[18:14] <Trek> becker_11: do this:  ssh yourUserName@yourIPAddress
[18:14] <Cybodog> http://pastebin.org/89001 dmesg output.
[18:15] <Cybodog> thanks for looking at it.
[18:15] <becker_11> Trek: silly question but I was entering xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx should I have left out the periods
[18:15] <abu1230> http://pastebin.org/89003 can you help me related this probm
[18:15] <renatonel1> becker, ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx should work just fine
[18:15] <Trek> becker_11: no, leave the periods.  for example: ssh Trek@127.0.0.1
[18:16] <Trek> becker_11: if I were connecting to the right username and computer :P
[18:16] <sipior> owner: interesting: http://bugs.gentoo.org/291837
[18:16] <renatonel1> becker_11, maybe ssh is not enabled on the remote computer
[18:16] <becker_11> Trek: okay well when I did that I was getting a cursor blinking but no prompt so I ctrl +c out of it
[18:16] <becker_11> Trek: shouldn't I have gotten a prompt?
[18:17] <jellow_> how can i recusivly search all .img files on my system / ?
[18:17] <Cybodog> erUSUL, much noise here, in case you missed it:  http://pastebin.org/89001  http://pastebin.org/89000
[18:17] <jellow_> using grep*
[18:17] <blakkheim> jellow_: man find
[18:17] <renatonel1> becker_11, try ssh -l username xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[18:17] <Trek> becker_11: is port 22 open?  did you install the ssh packages?
[18:17] <becker_11> renatonel1: I installed it yesterday on my home pc I was trying to access it via the netbook
[18:17] <becker_11> Trek: yeah I forwarded port 22 and installed openssh-server
[18:18] <owner> sipior: indeed.... there's a patch there.. i'll give that a try... TY
[18:18] <becker_11> Trek: maybe I haven't actually got it running
[18:18] <Trek> becker_11:  did you reboot your comp?
[18:18] <sipior> owner: good luck
[18:18] <becker_11> Trek: no haven't rebooted
[18:18] <renatonel1> becker_11, on the server you've installed ssh server, try ssh localhost
[18:18] <bastid_raZor> becker_11: openssh-server is the package needed
[18:19] <Trek> becker_11:  do this in command line: apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[18:19] <Trek> becker_11:  it should also find the dependencies
[18:19] <secret> Does anyone know the wine irc ?
[18:19] <blakkheim> secret: #winehq
[18:19] <bastid_raZor> secret: winehq
[18:19] <blakkheim> too slow
[18:19] <becker_11> renatonel1: Trek I did ssh localhost and it asked for the password and logged me in
[18:19] <Trek> becker_11:  if that doesn't work, then it might not be installed:  apt-get install openssh-server
[18:19] <secret> thanks
[18:20] <Trek> becker_11:  then accessing it externally is the issue...
[18:20] <Trek> becker_11:  do you use a firewall on your comp?
[18:20] <becker_11> Trek: router
[18:20] <becker_11> Trek: no firewall
[18:20] <renatonel1> becker_11: can you ping the ssh server?
[18:20] <Trek> becker_11:  is IP tables blocking incoming traffic?
[18:21] <becker_11> Trek: if it is I haven't set it up
[18:21] <Trek> becker_11:  i'll assume its not blocking traffic...
[18:21] <renatonel1> becker_11, try to ping the ssh server from your notebook
[18:21] <japplet> why would all /proc/[pid]/maps files come up empty?
[18:22] <trineox> becker_11 try going to canyouseeme.org and checking to see if the port is open
[18:22] <becker_11> renatonel1: unfortunately I can't I don't have wireless at home I had to go to free wifi spot to try it
[18:22] <Amanda98> hello
[18:22] <becker_11> renatonel1: yes it's open I just checked
[18:22] <Amanda98> hola esta andrina
[18:23] <Amanda98> hello  gat andrina
[18:23] <renatonel1> becker_11, How are you connected to the ssh server, via cable?
[18:23] <Amanda98> ola
[18:23] <Amanda98> de q colegio sois
[18:23] <becker_11> renatonel1: it's running on my desktop box
[18:23] <nickkontos> hello, I just installed a new nvidia graphics card (GeForce GTS 250) previous was geforce 7300gs, and now I can't enable desktop effects...
[18:23] <anodesni> How can I see which video card is available on a machine (ssh)?
[18:23] <judokita> amanda de que c olegio eres
[18:24] <blakkheim> !es
[18:24] <Amanda98> gat scoold
[18:24] <blakkheim> judokita: Amanda98: english only
[18:24] <judokita> eso donde estas
[18:24] <ChogyDan> anodesni: lshw -C video?
[18:24] <renatonel1> becker_11, just to make sure I understand, the ssh server is on the desktop pc, and you are trying to access it from your notebook, right?
[18:24] <erUSUL> Cybodog: weird i have a amd 3800+ and have no problems at all
[18:24] <becker_11> renatonel1: I'm trying to set it up so I can access my desktop box while I'm out
[18:24] <Amanda98> judokita eres una chica o un chico?
[18:24] <becker_11> renatonel1: correct
[18:24] <judokita> alguien es de3 españa
[18:25] <judokita> chica
[18:25] <becker_11> renatonel1: both run linux
[18:25] <blakkheim> !op  | judokita Amanda98
[18:25] <xTEMPLARx> anglais solamente, por favor
[18:25] <anodesni> ChogyDan, it says "command not found" I have very few permmissions on this machine I guess
[18:25] <Cybodog> erUSUL, yes it is.  I can cludge it by a start up script that runs modprobe, but I don't remember how to do that.
[18:25] <erUSUL> Cybodog: i only load kvm-amd from modules though (and is with - not with _ )
[18:25] <judokita> me llamo africa amanda tu no seras  del tierno galvan no?
[18:25] <Myrtti> !es | Amanda98, judokita
[18:25] <kirillka> Hi all. Sorry for stupid question. I can't get ipv4 address from dhcp server
[18:25] <renatonel1> becker_11, how do you access the desktop box, with LAN or through internet?
[18:25] <Cybodog> erUSUL, I will try that.
[18:26] <Amanda98> ola qien sepa de aqi español q diga si
[18:26] <erUSUL> Cybodog: http://pastebin.org/89010
[18:26] <becker_11> renatonel1: internet via a router
[18:26] <Cybodog> erUSUL, though lsmod shows _ not -
[18:26] <erUSUL> !es | Amanda98
[18:26] <judokita> si
[18:26] <bastid_raZor> anodesni: lspci | grep -i vga   ..if it is a ubuntu box
[18:26] <renatonel1> becker_11, then the problem is on the network
[18:26] <Cybodog> erUSUL, I know that kvm-_intel or amd *will* load kvm
[18:26] <becker_11> renatonel1: port 22 is forwarded according to the guide at portforward.com
[18:26] <anodesni> bastid_raZor, "command not found" (scientific linux)
[18:26] <becker_11> renatonel1: brb I'll re check the router
[18:27] <bastid_raZor> anodesni: what OS is the remote box?
[18:27] <judokita> amanda eres la de 6b
[18:27] <Myrtti> judokita: por favor, en inglés...
[18:27] <SomeoneE1se> when I try to sshfs mount a remote ssh server it connects fine, but once the script ends the connection closes, what should I do to make it stop that?
[18:27] <anodesni> bastid_raZor, scientific linux, I guess I have very few permissions
[18:27] <judokita> esque no se me da nada bien el ingles
[18:27] <metricpiano> launchpad question, but it's for 10.4... anyone in #ubuntu+1?
[18:27] <anodesni> bastid_raZor, it's  a system from my university
[18:28] <kirillka> Anyone can help? I can't get ipv4 address from dhcp server
[18:28] <kirillka> I have Ubuntu 8.04.4 server
[18:28] <erUSUL> judokita: entonces entra en #ubuntu-es
[18:29] <becker_11> renatonel1: opendns wouldn't be causing a conflict would it.
[18:29] <bastid_raZor> anodesni: then you need to talk to your local admin.
[18:29] <kirillka> I disable ipv6, but ipv4 don't get
[18:29] <krecha> hi
[18:29] <becker_11> renatonel1: btw I've just checked the settings and it all looks correct
[18:30] <renatonel1> becker_11, I don't know, it should not cause a conflict
[18:30] <anodesni> ok
[18:31] <becker_11> renatonel1: firewall is definately disabled in the router
[18:31] <becker_11> renatonel1: hang on I think I was using the incorrect ip addy
[18:32] <Trek> becker_11: perhaps that was the case, wrong IP.  try using the IP on whatismyip.com
[18:33] <nitemovz> is anyone familiar with using Transmission BitTorrent Client via HTTP Proxies?
[18:33] <blakkheim> nitemovz: /join #transmission
[18:33] <abu1230> http://pastebin.org/89003 any one help me
[18:34] <oenone> hi, my ar928x won't work
[18:34] <becker_11> Trek: that ip is incorrect my isp must have a transperant proxy or something I've just got the correct ip from my router config
[18:34] <nitemovz> blakkheim: I tried that last night,but nobody responds on that channel
[18:34] <samp> quick question about chmod. one of the octal values you can modify is permissions for that file's group... what does this mean? Every file can't have it's own group....
[18:34] <oenone> i get "ath9k: Unable to attach hardware; HAL status -5"
[18:34] <oenone> any idea?
[18:35] <renatonel1> becker_11: any luck now?
[18:35] <arvind_khadri> abu1230, sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get -f install
[18:36] <metricpiano> What is the proper way to report a bug affecting 10.4 that was triaged in 9.10... Launchpad bug 471385 in sbackup "simple backup restore error in 9.10" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/471385
[18:36] <becker_11> renatonel1: can't test it till I go out again but I'm confident it will work now I have the right ip as everything else looks correct
[18:36] <jellow_> becker_11: its open i did an nmap and can connect to you ssh server , if thats of any help
[18:36] <becker_11> jellow_: thanks
[18:36] <abu1230> aravind_khadri: I have donre that
[18:36] <abu1230> it shows that prob
[18:36] <samp> hm never mind, I have some man files to read.
[18:37] <Myrtti> metricpiano: add a comment it still exists in lucid?
[18:37] <renatonel1> becker_11: that's good news. got 2 go now. Have a good evening
[18:37] <becker_11> anyway I'm too tired to go out again tonight I'm off to bed MANY thanks for your help
[18:37] <Cybodog> no joy, /etc/modules with kvm-amd does not load my mods either, but modprobe still works.
[18:37] <metricpiano> Myrtti: ok, I just wanted to make sure that was correct
[18:38] <Cybodog> Anybody seen /etc/modules not loading modules that will manually load?
[18:38] <marinita> Hi!!
[18:39] <marinita> holaa?¿?
[18:39] <marinita> Holaa
[18:39] <crapper> müssen Sie, nachdem Sie Ihren Arsch abwischen shit.
[18:40] <guapera> ola
[18:40] <marinita> hay alguien español?¿?
[18:40] <Myrtti> !es | marinita
[18:40] <blakkheim> so much spanish here today :(
[18:40] <guapera> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:40] <skylineR390> Im having serious performance issues with an old intel celeron @1.2GHZ with 256MB of RAM, in which I just installed xubuntu. The most trivial activity like opening a text processor seems to consume a LOT of CPU. this makes everything sluggish, and laggy. watching a video on youtube is literally a sideshow.  I havent enabled any desktop effects or anything what do you guys think might be the problem?????
[18:40] <marinita> hola  'guapera'
[18:40] <guapera> ola
[18:40] <marinita> te has metido aqui para conocer gente o para hablar?¿?
[18:40] <blakkheim> skylineR390: your cpu is the problem, as well as xubuntu being bloated
[18:41] <skylineR390> really I thought xubuntu was for old machines?
[18:41] <blakkheim> skylineR390: it's still a *buntu, even if it is the "lightest" of the main 3
[18:41] <skylineR390> damn
[18:41] <blakkheim> skylineR390: i'd recommend a minimal iso install and only use a lightweight window manager like dwm/awesome/openbox/xmonad
[18:42] <skylineR390> so What do you think I should put On that old little piece of junk??
[18:42] <blakkheim> skylineR390: what i just said
[18:42] <habanany1> a quien le hablas marinita
[18:42] <tessarakt2> does the UNR image have the alternate text-mode installer?
[18:42] <marinita> a ti me da igual
[18:42] <marinita> a quien hablarle
[18:43] <skylineR390> havent heard of those but Im gonna check them out. BTW what do you think of DSL
[18:43] <blakkheim> !mini > skylineR390
[18:43] <habanany1> bueno yo estoy aqui para aprender
[18:43] <blakkheim> skylineR390: have a look at that.
[18:43] <marinita> eres un chico o una chica
[18:43] <marinita> ?¿?¿
[18:43] <`mOOse`> skylineR390: sounds more like a video problem
[18:43] <exs> hi can someone say me how to test xfce4 on ubuntu karmic?
[18:43] <oenone> http://hardware4linux.info/component/40570/ <- that's my card.. how can i get it working?
[18:43] <habanany1> pero hacer amistades de verdad , no esta de mas
[18:43] <habanany1> soy chico
[18:43] <fohos> hello guys.I got this error Wrong permissions in private key file "/home/user1/silcd/etc/silcd.prv".  The permissions must be 0600 or 0640
[18:43] <marinita> uummsshh
[18:43] <marinita> okis
[18:44] <marinita> cuantos años tienes?¿?
[18:44] <fohos> how can i fix it
[18:44] <habanany1> 40
[18:44] <`mOOse`> exs: #xfce
[18:44] <marinita> que dices?¿??¿
[18:44] <jellow_> skylineR390: you have the right specs* , Do not think is so much Xubuntu
[18:44] <marinita> 000
[18:44] <blakkheim> Myrtti: can you do something about these people
[18:44] <habanany1> anja, 40
[18:44] <skylineR390> no I havent activated any desktop effects.
[18:45] <habanany1> puedo saber en que parte del planeta vives ?
[18:45] <skylineR390> how do you guys send messages in the yellow boxes??
[18:45] <skylineR390> jellow_:dshfkjdhsjfs
[18:45] <jellow_> fohos: sudo chmod 0600 /home/user1/silcd/etc/silcd.prv
[18:46] <jellow_> skylineR390: yellow boxes is a little vague ?
[18:48] <exs> hi, ive installed ubuntu and i want to test xfce4 too. are there packages for ubuntu?
[18:49] <hellother> Hi
[18:49] <hellother> Can I ask about selling a computer with ubuntu installed?
[18:49] <skylineR390> yes I'm having the impression Xubuntu is'nt what it advertises to be. Yet I seee some videos on youtube with machines older than mine running it with no problems. That makes me wonder if theres something wrong with my installation
[18:50] <hellother> Is it legal to sell a computer with ubuntu installed?
[18:50] <erUSUL> hellother: yes
[18:50] <skylineR390> yes
[18:50] <Myrtti> hellother: why wouldn't it be?
[18:50] <`mOOse`> skylineR390: I'm going with video
[18:50] <erUSUL> !legal | hellother
[18:50] <hellother> Do you have pay Canonical for installing and selling a computer with ubuntu installed?
[18:50] <Myrtti> hellother: no
[18:50] <skylineR390> I haven't activated any desktop effects how can it be the video?
[18:50] <erUSUL> hellother: www.ubuntu.com/legal
[18:50] <hellother> So, it's absolutely free?
[18:51] <Trek> hellother: ubuntu's free, so there's no need to pay to sell a computer with ubuntu on it
[18:51] <erUSUL> hellother: you have to ask permission tu use the name the log etc...
[18:51] <erUSUL> hellother: you have to ask permission tu use the name the logo etc...
[18:51] <`mOOse`> because your cpu/mem specs sound fine
[18:51] <skylineR390> moose: My problem seems to be the High CPU usage. Just opening abiword spikes the CPU to high 80s
[18:52] <hellother> Okay, thank you for the information.
[18:52] <skylineR390> exactly
[18:52] <`mOOse`> I run xubuntu on an old dell laptop with a 1.6g celery
[18:52] <skylineR390> I can run win xp with better results!!!
[18:52] <fastPutty> how can i change my PHP PATH?
[18:52] <skylineR390> yeah!
[18:52] <tessarakt2> damn
[18:52] <fastPutty> when i type php , it execute the wrong
[18:52] <fastPutty> appication
[18:52] <`mOOse`> I wouldn't call it smoking for sure, but it runs fine
[18:52] <tessarakt2> no usb-creator in Gentoo
[18:52] <hellother> by the way, what do you mean by the logo? do you have to use some logos when a computer with ubuntu?
[18:52] <`mOOse`> which is why I *know* it's not the cpu/mem
[18:53] <Ultraputz> question: in what file(s)/directory does gnome desktop store wifi keys, etc?
[18:53] <hellother> edit :by the way, what do you mean by the logo? do you have to use some logos when selling a computer with ubuntu?
[18:53] <`mOOse`> if xp runs faster
[18:53] <skylineR390> but ITs the default xfce installation, no desktop effects no nothing it cant be the video
[18:53] <dfgh> I have thousands of identical messages in dmesg: "eth0: UDP Checksum error" but it suddenly stopped. Networking works well. Any ideas what's wrong?
[18:53] <erUSUL> hellother: well if you are ging to advertise with the ubuntu logo or trademarks
[18:53] <marcuy> any virtuemart users?
[18:53] <sebsebseb> hellother: This explains it and applys to Ubuntu as well  http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html
[18:53] <hellother> erUSUL// oh I see
[18:53] <Trek> dfgh: that means packets were dropped upon receiving because the checksums on them were wrong
[18:54] <hellother> sebsebseb// thank you for the link
[18:54] <dabaR> I thought /bin/sh is bash
[18:54] <erUSUL> hellother: read the webpage i linked
[18:54] <skylineR390> MOOSE: can You at least watch youtube??
[18:54] <hellother> erUSUL// will do. Thank you
[18:54] <dfgh> Trek: ok, thanks. Should I be worried, or is this normal?
[18:54] <Myrtti> dabaR: it's not been for some time
[18:54] <scottie_> I can connect to internet at school and have no problems... but when i connect at home my connection is lost after anywhere from 5-20 minutes and this happens all the time... does anyone know how to fix this..??? im using Karmic Koala
[18:54] <Pici> dabaR: /bin/sh is a symlink to dash by default.
[18:54] <dabaR> But I guess it is dash, and I just forgot.
[18:54] <dabaR> The debian alchemist's shell
[18:54] <scottie_> I've looked all over google and can't fin ou how to fix this
[18:55] <Trek> dfgh: if you saw how many packets my systems (yes, I said systems) dropped, your chin would hit the floor
[18:55] <Trek> dfgh: dropped packets are quite normal, ahppens all the time
[18:55] <spekko> hi all. how do i save my resolution? i get an error when saving to X conf file in nvidia-settings
[18:55] <blakkheim> spekko: run it as root or with sudo so you have write permissions
[18:55] <dfgh> Trek: hehe, ok. I'm at 11.000 at the moment
[18:55] <scottie_> I can connect to internet at school and have no problems... but when i connect at home my connection is lost after anywhere from 5-20 minutes and this happens all the time... does anyone know how to fix this..??? im using Karmic Koala
[18:55] <StReYiiTaH> hola kami
[18:55] <hellother> Thanks to all of you for helping
[18:56] <hellother> have a great day!!
[18:56] <Ultraputz> how do you back up your wireless keys and such?
[18:56] <spekko> blakkheim, tried that. i had a solution but i forgot it after i formatted, something about copying the file and moving it..
[18:56] <Trek> dfgh: as long as your networking works fine, then there's no reason to worry
[18:56] <coooper> is there a 32 bit version of ubuntu server?
[18:56] <Trek> coooper: yes there is
[18:56] <blakkheim> coooper: yes
[18:56] <coooper> :/
[18:56] <coooper> dont see it
[18:56] <piero> Hi! I'm converting a really very long int to str in python, so I need lots of CPU time. Can I put a core from my cpu exclusive to a process? If yes, is it better than renice my process to something like -19?
[18:56] <coooper> oh
[18:56] <coooper> i see
[18:57] <coooper> choose other options then choose 32 but
[18:57] <gerry__> skylineR390: Have you tried running top?
[18:57] <coooper> bit*
[18:57] <skylineR390> what is TOP????
[18:57] <gerry__> !top
[18:57] <erUSUL> piero: 1) yes 2) dunno
[18:57] <gerry__> !top | skylineR390
[18:57] <skylineR390> another distro I assume
[18:57] <skylineR390> no sir I havent
[18:57] <nickkontos> hello, i want to reinstall xorg nvidia drivers and compiz because I can't find any solution to why can't i enable desktop effects... is there any way? I don't want to reisntall ubuntu...
[18:57] <piero> erUSUL, how?
[18:57] <skylineR390> but I'll try if you recommend it
[18:58] <erUSUL> piero: you set cpu affinity for the process
[18:58] <Pici> skylineR390: top is an cli system monitor
[18:58] <skylineR390> how do you highlight the chat  in yellow BTW
[18:58] <piero> erUSUL, can you give and example of the command line?
[18:58] <gerry__> open a terminal and type "top" (without quotes) and hit enter
[18:58] <skylineR390> got it
[18:58] <erUSUL> piero: man taskset
[18:59] <Pici> skylineR390: Your IRC client automatically colors the messages that start with your nick to alert you that you're being spoken to.
[18:59] <piero> erUSUL, thanks
[18:59] <skylineR390> thats like the performance monitor in windows Iright?
[18:59] <gerry__> skylineR390: that will allow you to see what's using all of the CPU and memory
[18:59] <skylineR390> nice
[18:59] <tucemiux> !usb
[18:59]  * erUSUL prefers htop
[18:59] <tomtom2> anyone able to get openvpn running?
[18:59] <tomtom2> I get the following error
[18:59] <tomtom2> (WSAECONNRESET) (code=10054)
[18:59] <gerry__> erUSUL: it is cool, but requires installation
[19:00] <skylineR390> gerry_  doesnt the gnome sys monitor does that??
[19:00] <spekko> any solution? when i try saving my resolution to xconf with nvidia settings i get an error
[19:00] <erUSUL> spekko: run it as root « gksudo nvidia-settings »
[19:00] <skylineR390> gerry_:  doesnt the gnome sys monitor does that??
[19:00] <blakkheim> !repeat | skylineR390
[19:00] <spekko> erUSUL, i tried that. same problem..
[19:00] <gerry__> skylineR390: I believe it does pretty much the same thing, yes
[19:01] <erUSUL> spekko: o.0!
[19:01] <skylineR390> gerry_:cause I've ben watching it and the CPu it stays at 0% when im not doing nothin
[19:01] <spekko> erUSUL, i fixed it before i formatted, someone told me to copy files and move files in the terminal, but i forgot what. and after that i do gksu nvidia-settings
[19:01] <erUSUL> spekko: try moving first xorg.conf out of the way then « gksudo nvidia-settings » and save
[19:02] <skylineR390> but when I open a program it spikes to high 80s
[19:02] <piero> erUSUL, when the python's nice was 0, just one of my cores was at 100%. When I renice it to -19, the two cores started to "play a game" like a seesaw. Sounds like Linux things it is faster to switch the process beetween the cores than dedicating one for it?
[19:02] <gerry__> skylineR390: ok and when you try to open a program then only that program will spike?
[19:02] <skylineR390> gerry_: yes
[19:02] <erUSUL> spekko: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak && gksudo nvidia-settings
[19:02] <newbuntuguy> Hi, I'm trying to figure out if my laptop fans are working/cooling my system.  lm-sensors doesnt detect anything but my cpu temps (around 50c on my mobile quad core) and /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ has nothing in it, nor does /proc_acpi/fans/.  I am wondering if my system is running too hot, and if it is not being cooled.
[19:02] <spekko> erUSUL, kk thanx :))
[19:03] <ptr1> has skype for karmic/jaunty gone from medibuntu? it doesn't show up among packages, the website's download link is broken.
[19:03] <erUSUL> piero: seems like a bogus decision of the kernel. it is better to keep it in one cpucore
[19:03] <gerry__> skylineR390: when you run top what does it read under free memory?
[19:03] <gerry__> skylineR390: when idle
[19:03] <piero> erUSUL, cool! thanks!
[19:03] <skylineR390> gerry_: then it stabilizes, but if doing something a little cpu stressful like watching a video on youtube it stay at 100%
[19:04] <skylineR390> gerry_: mem stays low 160~190 when I have multiple applicatins running (I have 256MB)
[19:04] <mariano_> hello
[19:04] <Trek> !hi | mariano_
[19:05] <mariano_> hello
[19:05] <anna__> hello
[19:05] <mariano_> what your name?
[19:05] <gerry__> skylineR390: well I'm all out of ideas
[19:06] <nickkontos> !usb
[19:06] <mariano_> kernel
[19:06] <Pici> mariano_: This is the Ubuntu support channel, do you have an Ubuntu question?
[19:06] <gerry__> !pm | abu1230
[19:06] <nomaS> my ubuntuserver its freeze i have to reboot, which log should i check to see if theres a problem ?
[19:07] <skylineR390> gerry_:  know, me too! lol thanks anyways man, Im gonna try other light distros & see what happens
[19:07] <erUSUL> nomaS: /var/log/messages /var/log/syslog
[19:07] <tucemiux> tomtom2,  have you tried using open ssh?
[19:07] <gerry__> skylineR390: good luck
[19:07] <skylineR390> gerry_:  do you recommend any...
[19:07] <blakkheim> skylineR390: gentoo
[19:08] <abu1230> can you help me I have one broken file in my OS
[19:08] <tucemiux> is it possible to install a "full" ubuntu installation on a USB stick?  Or is the usb "persistent" installation just a live usb installation?
[19:08] <abu1230> how to fix the that
[19:08] <mikeliss> Does anybody know why my fans stay on after I suspend my desktop?
[19:08] <MasterMatan> hi, i have problem with ubuntu 9.10, i does kernel uptade to 2.6.31-19-generic and now i have problem with apps, they are killing same sometimes (pidgin, firefox, totem and others)
[19:08] <skylineR390> gerry_:  I'll check it out, Thanks
[19:08] <gerry__> skylineR390: only a linux noob here, so outside of ubuntu I'm pretty much lost ;)
[19:08] <gerry__> skylineR390: it was blakkheim who suggested it
[19:08] <skylineR390> gerry_:  lol me 2
[19:08] <genii> tucemiux: You can install full, with grub and all. I have one this way.
[19:09] <abu1230> hello any one help me
[19:09] <abu1230>  I have one broken file in ubuntu 9.10
[19:09] <rambo298> what's the key sequence to switch from graphics to text mode, and then back?
[19:09] <Myrtti> skylineR390: seriously, you could try installing the core of ubuntu with minimal iso and add stuff onto that, like lxde
[19:09] <skylineR390> blakkheim: gentoo I'll check it out, thanks  blakkheim
[19:09] <Trek> abu1230: it helps to know what the broken file is
[19:09] <abu1230> http://pastebin.org/89003
[19:10] <tucemiux> genii, can you please tell me how you did it?  did you do it from within a working ubuntu distro using a utility with an ISO or did you do it booting up from a CD?
[19:10] <abu1230> please check that
[19:10] <erUSUL> rambo298: crtl + alt + f1 then crtl + alt + f7
[19:10] <Myrtti> skylineR390: I wouldn't suggest gentoo unless you're very masochistic and love to configure everything to the last detail
[19:10] <newbuntuguy> Hi, I'm trying to figure out if my laptop fans are working/cooling my system.  lm-sensors doesnt detect anything but my cpu temps (around 50c on my mobile quad core) and /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ has nothing in it, nor does /proc_acpi/fans/.  I am wondering if my system is running too hot, and if it is not being cooled.
[19:10] <skylineR390> what bothers me is that some people seem to run xubuntu on older machines with no problem
[19:10] <mustelo> after I installed ubunt my ethernet card is not recognized by linux or windows. thoughts?
[19:10] <rambo298> erUSUL: ever have ubuntu switch to text mode on its own and not be able to get back to graphics without restarting?
[19:10] <genii> tucemiux: I used the usb stick as a target to install to after booting from the install cd
[19:10] <Trek> abu1230: your issue doesnt seem to be a broken file, rather a broken package
[19:10] <erUSUL> rambo298: no; never
[19:11] <neXyon> how do I find out which application uses a specific module? (lsmod shows 1 user)
[19:11] <abu1230> yes
[19:11] <skylineR390> Myrtti: I know little to knothing about linux so I dont think thats a choice 4 e, Im barely learning some bash...
[19:11] <Trek> abu1230: i don't know how to fix your issue, thoguh
[19:11] <rambo298> erUSUL: it's happened four times in the past week; i am mystified
[19:11] <abu1230> any one help me
[19:11] <tucemiux> mustelo, if your ethernet card is not recognized by either linux or windows then it is ***highly**** likely that ethercard is dead
[19:11] <Pici> abu1230: Have you run    sudo apt-get -f install    like it suggests?
[19:11] <erUSUL> neXyon: that 1 user is another module. not some app
[19:12] <agrif> skylineR390: If your new to Linux in general, Gentoo will be hard ( though you'll learn a lot )
[19:12] <rambo298> erUSUL: it's almost like X is crashing but i don't see any sign of an exception
[19:12] <mburchill> I'm considering upgrading my video card, does Ubuntu + AMD/ATI Catalyst drivers support hardware h.264? I've been using NVidia with VDPAU ... but it's been a pain in the ass to keep it working.
[19:12] <abu1230> yes but when am going to install its not repond
[19:12] <Trek> Pici: his pastebin has that as the initial option he ran
[19:12] <erUSUL> rambo298: bad memory / hardware ?
[19:12] <mustelo> tucemiux, that's what I thought. I sent it in to the manufacturer and they imaged my drive, updated my bios, and shipped it back. it worked under windows until I tried to install linux...
[19:12] <Pici> Trek: ah
[19:12] <rambo298> shrug maybe
[19:12] <gerry__> skylineR390: it could be a hardware problem as in something isn't working properly
[19:12] <tucemiux> genii, im going to try that, thanks!!!
[19:12] <rambo298> mburchill: nvidia has never been anything but
[19:12] <Pici> abu1230: What version of Ubuntu is this?
[19:13] <skylineR390> agrif: what "easy" and lightweight distro will you recommend then, since xubuntu isn't working
[19:13] <perfekcjonista> 9.40
[19:13] <genii> tucemiux: You can however use also a chroot/debbootstrap method if you have no CD or so on
[19:13] <tucemiux> mustelo, is the ethernet card working right now??? hardware is hardware, its supposed to work, if linux has no drivers or can at least still recognize it
[19:13] <abu1230> it shows this error "You have 1 broken package on your system!
[19:13] <abu1230> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it."
[19:13] <perfekcjonista> hello
[19:14] <Willy_Wallace> anyone knows what software could i use to mount a HTC cellular?
[19:14] <skylineR390> gerry__: this machine had xp and it ran fairly decent, so I dont think thats the problem....
[19:14] <agrif> skylineR390: slackware can be light, and it's easier than gentoo though less a walk in the park
[19:14] <abu1230> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xorg-driver-fglrx_2%3a8.660-0ubuntu4_i386.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[19:14] <juancarl1s> hai can i haz support?
[19:14] <juancarl1s> !foo
[19:14] <gerry__> skylineR390: true, I forgot that
[19:15] <agrif> skylineR390: but off the top of my head I have no idea, other than SW
[19:15] <genii> juancarl1s: Just describe your problem in the channel and someone will likely answer
[19:15] <skylineR390> agrif: ill check it out, thanks
[19:15] <Myrtti> skylineR390: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu
[19:15] <Trek> !ask | juancarl1s
[19:15] <tessarakt2> ok
[19:15] <neglesaks> good evening. Does anyone here have problems changing their user password in Ubuntu's "Users & Groups" control panel? I've continuously tried to no avail, but "passwd" in the termianl works fine
[19:15] <tessarakt2> unetbootin in Gentoo
[19:15] <mezquitale> mustelo, i have only been able to install kubuntu on a usb drive using unetbootin but it logged straight into kubuntu, it didnt ask me to create a user
[19:16] <skylineR390> Myrtti: that looks INTERESTING
[19:16] <agrif> Oh man I had forgotten gentoo, so many lost nights recompiling kernels...
[19:16] <wtfwtfdef> anyone know bitchx
[19:17] <wtfwtfdef> how do you block the join/parts
[19:17] <wtfwtfdef> can barley read convo
[19:17] <gerry__> Myrtti: nice linkage
[19:17] <blakkheim> wtfwtfdef: i can in irssi
[19:17] <ehnde> anyone know how i can get my hostname to show up instead of my i.p.?
[19:17] <mezquitale> Myrtti, lubuntu is even lighter weigh than xubuntu?
[19:17] <ehnde> (on freenode)
[19:17] <Myrtti> mezquitale: so I've been told
[19:18] <ivansmo> guys I have writte one line of code c++, can you tell me how to compile that file?? And run it?
[19:18] <Myrtti> ehnde: go to #freenode and ask for a cloak
[19:18] <Myrtti> !register | ehnde
[19:18] <juancarl1s> need a network managment app, network-manager:toobig,too much dependencies / LXNM:try to install half LXDE / gnome-network:try to install half gnome / WICD:GUI crash because missing unknow backends,freedesktop idontknowwhat missing and crash, any recommendation???
[19:18] <ehnde> thanks Myrtti
[19:18] <mezquitale> Myrtti, i'll add lubuntu to my agenda
[19:18] <burg> hello. i have some subtitles with romanian characters (like: ș ț Ș Ț) - but if i open those subtitles in gedit or if i open in a movie player, it shows some strange characters instead. how can i fix that?
[19:18] <rambo298> ivansmo: g++ file.cpp -o file
[19:18] <arand> mezquitale: yes, lxde is generally lighter than xfce, I think.
[19:18] <erUSUL> ivansmo: g++ -o run file.cpp && ./run
[19:18] <blakkheim> juancarl1s: i recommend fixing wicd and using that
[19:19] <trism> juancarl1s: if all the network managers are too heavy for you, just use /etc/network/interfaces
[19:19] <juancarl1s> WICD GUI Crash
[19:19] <erUSUL> burg: probably the file is in a weird charset. convert to utf-8
[19:19] <juancarl1s> need a GUI
[19:20] <blakkheim> juancarl1s: no you don't
[19:20] <burg> erUSUL, how can i convert it?
[19:20] <erUSUL> burg: « file subtitles.srt » would tell you what charset then you can use "iconv" to convert it
[19:20] <erUSUL> !iconv
[19:20] <juancarl1s> no, is not for me, really need a GUI
[19:21] <erUSUL> burg: iconv -f weird_charset -t utf-8 subtitles.srt > subtitles_fixed.srt
[19:21] <burg> erUSUL, sub.srt: ISO-8859 text is the charset now
[19:21] <juancarl1s> LXNM says it only uses Bash scripts, so no dependencies, but its not true
[19:22] <erUSUL> burg: use iconv -f ISO-8859-15 -t utf-8
[19:22] <erUSUL> burg: maybe is not 15 ... check the result
[19:23] <burg> erUSUL, the result is identical to the old file
[19:24] <juancarl1s> so no solution
[19:24] <erUSUL> burg: google tells me romanian is ISO-8859-2
[19:24] <juancarl1s> maybe a packaging bug on wicd
[19:24] <erUSUL> burg: use iconv -f ISO-8859-2 -t utf-8 subtitles.srt > subtitles_fixed.srt
[19:26] <burg> done, thanks erUSUL
[19:26] <juancarl1s> will make my own network manager on python/bash
[19:26] <erUSUL> burg: no prblem
[19:26] <Das_Flo> Hey, can someone please tell me if it makes a difference whether /boot goes to the beginning or the end at installation? (Location for the new partition)
[19:27] <damjanzg> What util use to cut text from a file on exactly n line and from a-b collumns
[19:27] <blakkheim> damjanzg: sed/awk/cut
[19:27] <erUSUL> damjanzg: tail + cut
[19:27] <TLF> can you tell me the name of the gnome window manager?
[19:27] <blakkheim> TLF: metacity
[19:27] <erUSUL> TLF: metacity
[19:27] <erUSUL> in stereo where aviable
[19:27] <TLF> thank you very much :)
[19:27] <arand> Das_Flo: no, just a matter of preference and organisation.
[19:28] <gdiz> hey does anyone know if there is a way to control or send keyboard/mouse events to a flash app via bash
[19:28] <Das_Flo> Thank you
[19:28] <genii> Das_Flo: If you put it at the end you can put swap at the beginning. The start of the disk has slightly faster access times than the end of the disk
[19:29] <Das_Flo> genii: With / in the middle, so to speak?
[19:29] <geirha> damjanzg: awk 'NR==2{print $3,$4,$5}' file   prints fields 3-5 of line 2
[19:29] <Amanda98> ola
[19:29] <genii> Das_Flo: Yes. Another method is also to sandwich the swap between / and /home so that the read heads can hit it while travelling between accessing the two
[19:30] <damjanzg> geirha: that was usefful tnx
[19:30] <Amanda98> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:30] <Amanda98> ola
[19:30] <Amanda98> ola
[19:30] <Amanda98> ola
[19:30] <Amanda98> ola
[19:30] <guntbert> Amanda98: stop
[19:30] <FloodBot4> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:30] <blakkheim> !op
[19:31] <Das_Flo> genii: Ok. So /: beginning, /boot: end, swap: beginning - no seperate home dir
[19:31] <Amanda98> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:32] <juancarl1s> amanda98: es en Ingles aca
[19:32] <juancarl1s> Amanda98: ./join #ubuntu-es
[19:32] <genii> Das_Flo: Something like: /root swap /boot       or so. /boot is used on bootstrap and not constantly so end is fine
[19:32] <habanany> ola Amanda98
[19:32] <Myrtti> juancarl1s: gone already
[19:32] <knapik> rt
[19:33] <guntbert> habanany: don't encourage such behaviour please
[19:33] <Das_Flo> genii: Thanks, that's what I have now... Well, with a big fat ntfs storage area before that, I'll have to figure out how to move that to the end sometime, if possible
[19:33] <genii> Das_Flo: You can also have swap /root /boot    since no separate partition for /var /home or so on
[19:33] <knapik> jak skofigurowac ubuntu
[19:33] <habanany> sorry
[19:33] <arand> Das_Flo: Seems to be a bit of discussion of swap-placement-performance here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-installation-40/should-i-put-the-swap-partition-at-the-beginning-or-the-end-of-the-drive-365793/ (Summary: *it depends*)
[19:33] <genii> Das_Flo: If you had /home   then:  /home swap /root /boot         or so
[19:33] <guntbert> !pl | knapik
[19:34] <mburchill> If I use the ATI catalyst drivers are mencoder/mpayer able to take advantage of the hardware h.264 support ... 1080 right now is just killing my Quad core box. VDPAU only effects playback not transcoding.
[19:34] <juancarl1s> the problem is that for fixing WICD means installing too much packages, so we are back in troubles
[19:35] <boxemall> hey guys. any idea on how to add multimedia stuff as fast as possible? autmotaix has been disco'ed so is there any other easy way?
[19:35] <Dark_Smoke> есть руско говорящие?
[19:36] <Myrtti> boxemall: install ubuntu-restricted-extras and use medibuntu
[19:36] <boxemall> errrm this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[19:36] <Myrtti> !medibuntu | boxemall
[19:36] <Myrtti> boxemall: yes, that.
[19:37] <boxemall> kk ill look it up and tx
[19:37] <guntbert> !ru | Dark_Smoke
[19:38] <boxemall> hmm if i want to install all the progs just to make sure i have it all what do i do? im fixin this rig for people without internet access... and yes such folks do still exist lol
[19:39] <juancarl1s> boxemall: apt-zip
[19:39] <Myrtti> boxemall: if you forget something from the installation, you can always use the offline way to add them later
[19:39] <Myrtti> !offline > boxemall
[19:39] <ZykoticK9> Slow text input on Facebook.  I've seen this mentioned before, now it's happening to me.
[19:41] <Screamo_Smurf> anyone else having problems downloading ubuntu packages ?
[19:42] <boxemall> well too sad linuxmint wont work on my rig. at least that has all included
[19:42] <Screamo_Smurf> ive been downloading a 5mb file for the past hour or so
[19:42] <Screamo_Smurf> :|
[19:42] <Screamo_Smurf> finaly at 97% but i mean c'mon thats just to slow
[19:42] <Myrtti> Screamo_Smurf: difficult to say, ubuntu has a plethora of servers from where to download from
[19:42] <guntbert> Screamo_Smurf: you can choose another download server
[19:43] <Das_Flo> Do i need to modify grub2 in order to boot from an external hdd? read it was "too fast" for an usb device?
[19:44] <juancarl1s> need a network managment app, network-manager:toobig,too much dependencies / LXNM:try to install half LXDE / gnome-network:try to install half gnome / WICD:GUI crash because missing unknow backends,freedesktop idontknowwhat missing and crash, any recommendation???
[19:45] <cdoublejj> would leaving a cd in the cd drive after freshly installing ubuntu during first boot cause it to not to mount cds?
[19:46] <Screamo_Smurf> how do i extract files from an .ISO?
[19:46] <cdoublejj> well
[19:46] <cdoublejj> in windows i use winrar
[19:46] <guntbert> !iso | Screamo_Smurf
[19:46] <cdoublejj> so what ever the alternatvie is to that in ubuntu
[19:47] <damjanzg> Is there some console application to record sound, that can take name of saving file for option
[19:47] <guntbert> cdoublejj: please stay helpful
[19:47] <knapik> gdzie znajde pomoc w ubuntu na forum nikt nie chce
[19:47] <cdoublejj> woah you can mount iso in ubunut with out fancy software like deamon tools, well i'm little rusty
[19:47] <cdoublejj> how ever
[19:47] <cdoublejj> nvm
[19:47] <cdoublejj> sorry
[19:48] <Das_Flo> After installation, should I remove the usb stick *before* I reboot or after?
[19:48] <nibbler> Das_Flo: before to be save - basically, just make sure you dont boot it once again
[19:48] <arand> Screamo_Smurf: open it in archive manager.
[19:48] <juancarl1s> will write my own
[19:48] <juancarl1s> :(
[19:48] <Screamo_Smurf> neither one of those options worked
[19:49] <Das_Flo> Thx... since this is my Nth try to get this setup running... well, wish me luck ;)
[19:49] <nibbler> Screamo_Smurf: what did not work? what was the error mesage?
[19:50] <Screamo_Smurf> didnt give an eror message
[19:50] <Screamo_Smurf> just didnt mount it
[19:50] <Tamnakz> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a pc. I downloaded the 8.10ISO and extracted it, but it won't run? either errors, or asks for internet, but I don't have internet at home. What can I dl that'll do it all in one package?
[19:50] <nibbler> Screamo_Smurf: sounds strange, paste the command you used, please
[19:51] <klappi> damjanzg: arecord?
[19:51] <sea-gull> how to upgrade linux kernel in ubuntu?
[19:52] <Geoffrey2> !nfs
[19:53] <sebsebseb> sea-gull: Why do you want to?
[19:53] <sea-gull> sebsebseb: http://news.softpedia.com/news/10-Kernel-Vulnerabilities-in-Ubuntu-6-06-8-04-8-10-9-04-and-9-10-134162.shtml
[19:53] <blakkheim> sebsebseb: sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[19:53] <sebsebseb> sea-gull: ah yes that, I been on that webpage myself
[19:54] <mezquitale> can you install ubuntu onto a USB drive booting up to a CD?
[19:54] <sebsebseb> blakkheim: you meant to message them that or?
[19:54] <blakkheim> sea-gull: sorry
[19:54] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, what do you mean?
[19:54] <guntbert> !md5sum | Tamnakz, did you check?
[19:55] <sebsebseb> sea-gull:  Which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[19:55] <sea-gull> 9.04
[19:55] <scott_ino2> anyone know why my battery indicator doesn't tell me time remaining?
[19:55] <mezquitale> `mOOse`,  basically I took my hard drives out and connected my USB drive to my laptop, I'm booting up to the CD and I'm going to perform the install on the USB drive, is this possible?
[19:55] <didiermah> !french
[19:55] <sebsebseb> sea-gull: If you apply all the security updates you  should be ok
[19:55] <`mOOse`> yes very possible mezquitale
[19:56] <`mOOse`> I have usb flashdrives with ubuntu and suse on them...that's how I did it
[19:56] <papo> hello
[19:56] <mezquitale> `mOOse`, I wonder if ubuntu will have a problem if I boot up the USB on a different machine?
[19:56] <Screamo_Smurf> Can somebody help me with installing this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbiso/
[19:56] <didiermah> hi
[19:56] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, no...they should work fine as long as the machine can bott from a usb port
[19:56] <`mOOse`> boot
[19:57] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, having them on a flashdrive is pretty cool
[19:57] <Guest30745> i'm trying to dualboot ubuntu and windows 7 (windows installed last) i managed to reinstall my grub but i cant get it to chainload windows 7
[19:58] <mezquitale> Guest30263,  update-grub and see if that works, if not you can enable windows 7 to boot up by creating a config in 40_custom
[19:58] <frankS2> https://panopticlick.eff.org
[19:58] <`mOOse`> Screamo_Smurf - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[19:59] <papo> I need to mount a samba share (without fuse), but http://pastebin.com/m5c243563. Happens on a karmic with all upgrades installed. What am I doing wrong?
[19:59] <mezquitale> `mOOse`, how much space do I need to install ubuntu though?  It looks like 1 gig wont cut it?
[19:59] <urthmover> I have isntalled gpodder from the ppa and for some reason an icon did not show up anywhere in my start menu.  How do I go about fixing that?
[19:59] <urthmover> *installed
[19:59] <`mOOse`> no, 1 gig is too small
[20:00] <tatototino> pam_check_host drop accepting investment to block host
[20:00] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, I used 4 gig Lexar drives
[20:00] <vic38> hi
[20:00] <tatototino> because?
[20:00] <vic38> ok
[20:00] <tatototino> why?
[20:00] <Trek> Guest30263, you are supposed to have installed Ubuntu AFTER Windows, as Windows overwrites your boot record.  you'll have to reinstall GRUB to make it work
[20:00] <mezquitale> `mOOse`, i guess this project will have to wait until I get a bigger thumb drive then
[20:00] <LinuxReign> urthmover, and you are positive that gpodder is actually installed?
[20:00] <urthmover> LinuxReign: yes because I can start it from the CLI just fine
[20:01] <tatototino> my openldap is to block hosts on /etc/ldap.conf
[20:01] <LinuxReign> urthmover, ok, you should create a launcher
[20:01] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, the base install is about 1.2 gigs
[20:01] <urthmover> LinuxReign: hmm ok I'll do that....but it seems odd that the installation did not do that automatically
[20:01] <papo> oh never mind I got it
[20:01] <LinuxReign> urthmover, sometimes that happens
[20:02] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, the minimum flashdrive I'd use would be 4 gigs - 8 much better
[20:02] <spilakviktor> hihi
[20:02] <LinuxReign> urthmover, it used to happen when I installed Enemy Territory :P
[20:02] <urthmover> LinuxReign: is it worth my time to apt-get remove gpodder   and reinstall it?
[20:02] <mezquitale> Trek, Guest30263 said he managed to reinstall but he cant boot up to windows7, most likely grub is pointing to the wrong partition
[20:02] <LinuxReign> urthmover, nah, I dont think that will make any difference
[20:03] <Trek> mezquitale, i think this is an issue with Win7, it liikes to take over the parition system.  He may have to rewrite the list system manually.
[20:03] <urthmover> LinuxReign: ok thanks for the advice  I'll just create a launcher and move on with my life  much appreciated
[20:03] <LinuxReign> urthmover, my pleasure my friend, good luck
[20:03] <juancarl1s> !foo
[20:04] <mezquitale> Trek, I told him to update-grub and didnt reply so he must have left and must be up and running
[20:04] <didiermah> !french
[20:04] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, but he'd have to do that from a live cd or other installation
[20:05] <hifdjs> HELLO
[20:05] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, he can't load ubuntu now
[20:05] <hifdjs> HELLO
[20:05] <hifdjs> HELLO
[20:05] <FloodBot4> hifdjs: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <mezquitale> `mOOse`, he sent you a PM?
[20:07] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, no
[20:07] <juancarl1s> need a guide to package these need packaging bugs, but guides i find or someones pointme is for package on my own PPA, i want to share my packaging work with everyone, not only on my PPA, at least on Multiverse or something like that
[20:07] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, he said win7 overwrote his mbr
[20:07] <Trek> mezquitale, he needs to reinstall GRUB then
[20:07] <`mOOse`> yep
[20:07] <Trek> mezquitale, since Win7 overwrote his MBR
[20:08] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, and the easiest way to do that is with the live cd
[20:08] <mezquitale> Trek, `mOOse` the guy left so unless he comes back we wont know, no worries
[20:08] <boxemall> after doin a clean install (wiped all other entries so its just ubuntu) i get an error when bootin. is taht a grub2 bug? tellin me "no such device"
[20:08] <mezquitale> Trek, in his post, he stated he reinstalled grub but was unable to boot to windows 7, he should have figured it out by now though since he left
[20:09] <Trek> mezquitale, if the update command worked, that is
[20:09] <Trek> mezquitale, otherwise, he'll have to reinstall grub all over again
[20:10] <khem_> hello, anybody know if there is a GUI available to Xmodmap in Ubuntu?
[20:10] <Stan0921> registration help available in #freenode
[20:10] <mezquitale> Trek, yup yup
[20:11] <nikandtas> всем привет..)
[20:11] <Trek> !register > Stan0921
[20:11] <Stan0921> skyliner390: only a symlink to dash by creating a config in private message
[20:11] <nikandtas> кто может помочь с telnet?
[20:11] <Stan0921> darwin4ever
[20:11] <juancarl1s> how to fix need-packaging bugs?
[20:11] <Stan0921> skyliner390: what i just removing the kernel mode line wont fix it
[20:11] <`mOOse`> mezquitale, I thought he said he couldn't boot into ubuntu....if he can't boot into win7 right after installing it then something's wrong
[20:11] <genii> !ru | nikandtas
[20:11] <kalib> is there any problem with Ubuntu and Chip SIS ?
[20:12] <mezquitale> `mOOse`, the guy kind of left more than 5 minutes ago
[20:12] <ChogyDan> juancarl1s: a ppa is a good place to start.  Also, the right people to talk to are in #ubuntu-motu
[20:12] <juancarl1s> ChogyDan: thanks!!!
[20:13] <`mOOse`> heh - yea I know - just sayin ;-)
[20:13] <Trek> mezquitale && `m00se` it doesn't matter if he left, we can still speculate on what the issue is/was
[20:13] <`mOOse`> don't ask me how I know this lol
[20:13] <Tamnakz> What's the easiest way to install ubuntu on a pc with no internet access?
[20:13] <Trek> Tamnakz, order a LiveCD to be shipped to you
[20:13] <rubi> hola
[20:13] <Aquaraptor> hey
[20:13] <ejvk34> hey does anyone know if linux has a seesaw
[20:13] <mezquitale> Trek, that would be offtopic
[20:13] <ejvk34> trek, yup
[20:13] <Tamnakz> trek: can you link me?
[20:13] <Trek> :P
[20:13] <rubi> bu
[20:14] <rubi> hcdhc
[20:14] <genii> !es | rubi
[20:14] <ejvk34> evgenii: /join #ubuntu-es (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[20:14] <Screamo_Smurf> How can i get ownership of an extra hdd on my pc?
[20:14] <ejvk34> at least still recognize it possible to get ipv4 don't get an error when idle
[20:14] <rubi> tono
[20:14] <Trek> Tamnakz, can I pm it to ya?
[20:14] <Tamnakz> surte
[20:14] <erUSUL> !addingfs | Screamo_Smurf
[20:15] <Screamo_Smurf> its an ntfs drive
[20:15] <Screamo_Smurf> used to be winblows on
[20:15] <erUSUL> !ntfs | Screamo_Smurf
[20:16] <Screamo_Smurf> its already automounted
[20:16] <mezquitale> Screamo_Smurf,  so what do you want to do with your extra HD?  do you want to use it as it is? or do you want to reformat and then use it?
[20:16] <ejvk34> bastid_razor, scientific linux, i guess i think of an extra hdd on my right click
[20:16] <Screamo_Smurf> i just wanna know how to change files permissions on it
[20:16] <ejvk34> abu1230: have the 8.10iso and move files for example: ssh trek@127.0.0.1
[20:16] <Screamo_Smurf> mezquitale its got like 50gb of music i want to share over netowrk
[20:16] <ejvk34> i'd think very possible mezquitale
[20:16] <`mOOse`> Screamo_Smurf,  you can't change file permissions on an ntfs drive I don't think
[20:16] <mezquitale> Screamo_Smurf, where did you mount your hard drive?
[20:17] <Screamo_Smurf>  /media/oldcomputer
[20:17] <erUSUL> Screamo_Smurf: you ca not change permissions on a ntfs drive. ntfs dos not support unix permissions (obviously)
[20:17] <ejvk34> anubisss
[20:17] <kalib> is there any problem with Ubuntu and Chip SIS ?
[20:17] <ejvk34> rayto
[20:17] <erUSUL> Screamo_Smurf: they are faked at mount time
[20:17] <Screamo_Smurf> well is there anyway to share it over network?
[20:17] <erUSUL> kalib: graphic card?
[20:17] <Trek> ejvk34: you stealing my ssh examples?
[20:17] <ejvk34> becker_11, try to ping the ssh server?
[20:17] <kalib> erUSUL, yeah..
[20:18] <sharperguy> Does anyone know if it's possible to connect a windows device to the internet THROUGH an ubuntu computer? The two computers are connected by ethernet, and the ubuntu computer connects via wifi
[20:18] <ejvk34> hi, i use the ati catalyst drivers support hardware actually works, you can try ssh server it connects fine, but once the script ends the connection closes, what should not cause a different mouse problem right?
[20:18] <kalib> erUSUL, it doesn't startx the X server
[20:18] <ejvk34> erusul: it's almost like x conf file in the router
[20:18] <ejvk34> lw4z
[20:18] <erUSUL> kalib: no 3d accel afaik; compiz wont work
[20:18] <erUSUL> kalib: chack /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:18] <ejvk34> kalib: no 3d accel afaik; compiz --replace and it choose write to connect a windows 7 to boot time, but ipv4 address from dhcp mode?
[20:18] <pleed> Hi guys. I would like to install ubuntu with full crypto. I ve done that a lot of times manually with gentoo. but with your graphical installer i have not option to klick that. do i need an alternative image?
[20:19] <jthomas_sb> If I edit a dual-boot setup's Grub menu, will that change stay (as in, keeping Windows at the top - sad I know) ?  In the past *buntu releases, the Windows option sometimes would completely disappear from the Grub menu, after an OS update.  Not only do I want it to not disappear, I want it to stay at the top.  Anyone know?
[20:19] <ejvk34> and the hardware actually got an ip as far as i can in irssi
[20:19] <jakob_luttrull> Will updateing to kernel 2.6.31-19 (from 2.6.31-17) break the drivers for my GMA500? They are from the ppa.launchpad.net/gma500/....
[20:20] <mezquitale> Screamo_Smurf,  look at your "/media" folder -- ls -la /media , look at the permissions and who owns it, first you want to own the hard drive:  sudo chown -R username:username
[20:20] <jakebeans> I would just use Ubuntu as your default OS.
[20:20] <jakebeans> Personally.
[20:20] <ejvk34> jt75
[20:20] <mezquitale> Screamo_Smurf,  sudo chown -R username:username /media/your_drive_here
[20:20] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[20:20] <ejvk34> so /: beginning, /boot: end, swap: beginning - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/soundtroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/dmixplugin - for write access, see !ntfs-3g or you have stale nfs locks due system cras
[20:21] <erUSUL> !ops | ejvk34
[20:21] <ejvk34> judokita eres la mayoría de canales de ubuntu 9.10 grub chooses the swap /root /boot    elky, madpilot, tritium, nalioth, tonyyarusso, pricechild, amaranth, jrib, myrtti, i have one help
[20:22] <mezquitale> Screamo_Smurf, i just read erUSUL 's comment, it's an ntfs partition, as long as you can read it that should be more than good enough, if you want to write to the ntfs partition then you're on your own
[20:22] <Screamo_Smurf> i can already read/write to it
[20:22] <mezquitale> Screamo_Smurf, beware, it is an ntfs partition-- write to it at your own risk
[20:22] <definebyte> While trying to get GRUB2 to default to booting windows i've somehow managed to make my PC unbootable. The GRUB menu appears, then the PC just reboots straight away. I've tried putting everything back to how it was but it still won't boot. Any ideas?
[20:22] <jakebeans> I've heard from some people that Ubuntu is like the baby version of Linux.  From what I've seen, there's virtually no difference between Ubuntu and previous distros other than usability.  Any opinions?
[20:23] <jakob_luttrull> @definebyte boot from a live disk, install grub2 from there
[20:23] <definebyte> jakob_luttrull: i've tried that. GRUB2 is installed but it doesn't work.
[20:24] <mezquitale> jakebeans, i use ubuntustudio so dont know what youre talking about but a lot of the utilities in ubuntu and in karmic are awesome except for pulse audio
[20:25] <jakob_luttrull> definebyte: thats very odd, you may have to bite the bullet and try Grub1 -_-
[20:25] <mezquitale> erUSUL, do you use ubuntu plain gnome?  ubuntu now uses the  "ubuntu software center"?!?
[20:25] <erUSUL> !ot | jakob_luttrull
[20:25] <erUSUL> mezquitale: yes it does
[20:25] <mezquitale> erUSUL, didnt know that, i use ubuntustudio with real time karmic kernel and we still use "add/remove"
[20:25] <definebyte> jakob_luttrull: well, as a last resort, sure. I'm hoping there's another way though.
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[20:26] <mezquitale> grub1 is legacy and not supported by #grub
[20:26] <IPNixon>  
[20:27] <definebyte> mezquitale: there's a #grub channel? I guess I should try there
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> definebyte: there can be any channel you want, just join it ;)
[20:27] <naut> :)
[20:28] <definebyte> :p
[20:28] <definebyte> not helpful :D
[20:29] <naut> has anyone here tried Ubuntu with a SSD drive for / ? are there any issues to be aware of, does the reduced seek time really speed up things significantly?
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> naut: indeed, just use ext2 to reduce writes
[20:29] <deploy> Is the bitstream font available in karmic?? I cant figure out how to get it!
[20:29] <chetnick> naut: you should be ok, i am not aware of any issues, and yes, it will be blazing fast.
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> !font | deploy
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> deploy: font files are standardised afaik
[20:30] <chetnick> naut: i wish i had one of those babies.
[20:30] <naut> ActionParsnip: ah, I'm not really knowledgeable enough to know, but ext2 has no journal, right? doesn't this equal being less reliable?
[20:30] <pfifo> is there a linux native version of this, http://www.manycam.com/
[20:31] <naut> chetnick: I read online that it's slower if used with full disk encryption. so it's better to use it on a disk with less than half of the space used, I'd say.
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> naut: get a few in a decent hardware raid array for true speed
[20:31] <jakob_luttrull> naut: my Asus 1101ha uses a SSD (32 Gig), I have not seen any MAJOR speed increases, but boot times where cut down, and programs load a LITTLE faster.
[20:31] <Testfunc23> I'm trying to dual boot windows 7 and karmic and when adding the (root hd(0,1) makeactive chainloader +1) entry and trying that i get: unkown device string error
[20:31] <erUSUL> naut: that equals to 8long) fsck on unclean umount nothing less nothing more
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: native to what?
[20:31] <erUSUL> !equiv | pfifo
[20:31] <erUSUL> !equivalents | pfifo
[20:32] <erUSUL> deploy: use deja vu
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> !grub | testfunc23
[20:32] <chetnick> naut: anyways, it will be way faster than magnetic drives.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> testfunc23: reinstall grub and is should detect the win7. you could have made life a lot easier ionstalling win7 first
[20:33] <naut> thanks guys :)
[20:33] <deploy> erUSUL: Ive been trying, but I cant figure out how to tell emacs to use dejavu (dont really understand those font specs with all the * and stuff so need to find an example I can c and p).
[20:33] <naut> jakob_luttrull: mind telling me the vendor and name of your SSD?
[20:33] <Testfunc23> i could not as i don't want to reinstall my ubuntu and no grub2 doesn't detect my win7 with either grup-update or grub-mkconfig
[20:33] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, I guess a v4l driver that instead of interfacing with hardware, creates veido base on software sources such as files or you xsession. I dont know ghow it would best be described but the software on that site gives a great example of what im looking for.
[20:34] <erUSUL> deploy: you need the emacs-snapshot version afaik to be able to use ttf fonts ...
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: like recordmydesktop ?
[20:35] <Metzgerr> hi. how can i connect to a wpa2 wireless via shell?
[20:35] <chetnick> Testfunc23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[20:35] <jakob_luttrull> naut: it is a PQI DK9320GD3R000A03
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> i hate this irc client
[20:35] <chetnick> Testfunc23: its all there.
[20:35] <naut> jakob_luttrull: thanks :)
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> !wpa | metzgerr
[20:35] <`mOOse`> pfifo, the short answer is no
[20:35] <chetnick> Testfunc23: just scroll down a little bit to recovering GRUB after reinstalling windows.
[20:35] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: how come? you are using it against your will ?
[20:35] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: XD
[20:36] <Testfunc23> chetnick,  what is supposed be there ? i HAVE a grub, its just not loading windows
[20:36] <waggy> Hi all, I've just installed Karmic on a Sony VGN-NR21J.  On the LiveCD the Wifi worked fine.  Now that it has booted into the installed OS it is very buggy and intermittently loses connection.  What makes it even weirder is that it does the same when I connect using Ethernet.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[20:36] <pfifo> ActionParsnip, yes somewhat like that, but instead of dumping files, it should show up as a webcam to flash/skype/pidgin
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> metzgerr: you'll be use wpa_supplicant
[20:36] <Screamo_Smurf> :/
[20:36] <hipe> I just started using ubuntu karmic on my vps, it's pretty much a fresh new server;  On a scale of one to ten, one being easy, ten being impossible, how hard is it to get jails working on ubuntu?
[20:36] <chetnick> Testfunc23: oh, so you have working grub, you just need to add windows to it?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> erusul: i like to help and i rooted my g1 to get a newer OS on it and i need a mini sd card reader for my pc so i can upgrade it
[20:37] <erUSUL> hipe: there is no jails for linux jails is a BSD thing
[20:37] <felipedie> ;q
[20:37] <Testfunc23> chetnick, , yes: i tried to standard root hd(0,1) makeactive chainloader +1
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> erusul: so the only client is darairc. no nick complete and it posts stuff twice sometimes
[20:37] <erUSUL> ActionParsnip: :S
[20:37] <LinuxHack3r> I suppose someone can hear me?
[20:37] <chetnick> Testfunc23: which Ubuntu do you have? is it grub2?
[20:37] <hipe> erUSUL: ok that was my first guess then my friend told me it was linuxy.  but that's ok i didn't want to mess w/ it anywayz. thx
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> pfifo: not sure there
[20:38] <waggy> LinuxHack3r, yes
[20:38] <erUSUL> hipe: you can use lxc
[20:38] <Testfunc23> chetnick: i have installed grub 2 BUT not yet deleted grub legacy
[20:38] <naut> ActionParsnip: one last question, if you allow. I'm planning to use Virtual Box on it with a virtual hard drive. Virtual hard drives (which reside as normal files on my file system) can be dynamically expanding or they can be set to have a fixed size that cannot be changed later. If I set them to have a fixed size, would it matter if they are written to often on a SSD drive? The sectors should always stay the same, no?
[20:38] <pfifo> erUSUL, That list has something for me wow! GSreamer might do the trick from what im reading, just have to write a few lines of code
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> hipe: difficulty is individual so not representative of any experience you may have
[20:38] <erUSUL> hipe: or virtualmachines (kvm/xen/etc) or openVZ
[20:38] <zig_> Anyone here have experience using virt-manager?
[20:39] <hipe> ActionParsnip: of course! i guess i was wondering just "is there such a thing" "is it possible" etc.  thx
[20:39] <zig_> I was wondering: What's the performance impact of using multiple allocated virtual CPU's?
[20:39] <tonyyarusso> !anyone | zig_
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> linuxhack3r: i can see your text, irx has no voice
[20:39] <zig_> Will that help performance by introducing multiple effective threads on a multi-core system?
[20:39] <fohos> guys does any of you have some experience with setting up a SILC server?
[20:40] <zig_> Or will that actually damage performance? I'm guessing it would help, potentially.
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> naut: the allocated size will stay but the bits in the image file will change as the box is used
[20:40] <chr7> l.com
[20:40] <fohos> how to set up a SILC server
[20:40] <chr7> xao
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> !find silc
[20:41] <chr7> hello
[20:41] <fohos> i can not connect to it
[20:41] <chr7> hdhgjhhw
[20:41] <Trek> Is it possible to write Ubuntu to a slaved HDD within Windows?  I don't think its possible, but I'm not sure if I'm right.
[20:41] <hipe> erUSUL: as always your ratio of words to value is off the charts th
[20:41] <hipe> *thx
[20:41] <Myrtti> chr7: yes, we can see your message. did you have ubuntu support question?
[20:41] <fohos> it says silc_server_purge_expired_clients:1290: Expire timeout
[20:41] <erUSUL> hipe: no problem :)
[20:41] <koltroll> Heya guys. Firebug keeps crashing my firefox. I have read that that's just the way it is until it gets fixed. Anyhow, is it possible to downgrade firefox? Because I got the problem after updating firefox a day or so ago.
[20:42] <erUSUL> pfifo: does not cheese do what you want?
[20:42] <erUSUL> !info cheese | pfifo
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> koltroll: tried the mozilla ppa?
[20:42] <koltroll> ActionParsnip, I haven't no
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> koltroll: it will have a later build which may fix your issues
[20:43] <koltroll> ActionParsnip, ah yea seems like it. Thanks alot!
[20:43] <Belgarath_> Hi I just made the switch from Xubuntu... I want to change window size with Alt+Right mouse button instead of Alt+Middle button... Cant find a simple way... Anyone?
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> koltroll:np man
[20:43] <pfifo> erUSUL, so with cheese, could i play a mpeg file and capture the audio/video and stream it over the web viaflash, thereby tricking flash into thinking its a webcam?
[20:44] <`mOOse`> erUSUL, manycam will take any pic or movie and present it as a webcam
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> !info manycam
[20:44] <erUSUL> pfifo: do not thin so.... the wedsite you posted just looked like a silly toy to play with the webcam ;)
[20:45] <Trek> repost: Is it possible to write Ubuntu to a slaved HDD within Windows?  I don't think its possible, but I'm not sure if I'm right.
[20:46] <`mOOse`> erUSUL, it's useful for www.chatroulette.com ;-)
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> trek: you could use the usb writer thingy to write to the drive but its easier to boot to the cd and install normally
[20:46] <erUSUL> Trek: define "slaved HDD within Windows"
[20:46] <vikin> Hi!
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> trek: if you partition the other drive to have a small partition it might be dumb enough to work
[20:47] <vikin> Guys, does anyone of you know about a driver dor ext for windows 7?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> trek: then use the rest for data
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> vikin: www.fs-driver.org maybe
[20:48] <Flamekebab> Suggestions on fixing a hard disk running JFS that fsck won't check due to corrupted superblocks?
[20:49] <jafo> Flamekebab: First of all, if the information is critical, use dd to take a copy of the disc before you do anything.
[20:49] <xase> Hello, Cheese fails to detect my camera properly, since re-install of the software. But only after i've shut my laptop lid and opened it...
[20:49] <harisund> Hey guys ... does 64 bit Ubuntu have its own IRC channel ?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> flamekebab: could try different fsck options. if fsck says its bad i'd say it doesnt look great
[20:49] <panfist_> is there something similar to compiz's window rules plugin for metacity? i'm trying to make a rule to prevent a window from ever minimizing
[20:49] <xase> I purged cheese because it kept taking burst photos, without being told to, every time I opened it.
[20:49] <erUSUL> harisund: no
[20:49] <Flamekebab> Hmm
[20:49] <koltroll> ActionParsnip, yaaaay. firebug is working yet again :)
[20:49] <harisund> erUSUL, thanks .
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> harisund: no, same one as 32bit, here
[20:49] <xase> problem still exists, and now I experience the issue with the camera after re-opening my laptop lid.
[20:49] <Flamekebab> jafo, I would but I don't consider the info that important
[20:50] <Flamekebab> I'm wondering if I can specify a different superblock
[20:50] <Flamekebab> Admittedly, I don't know what a superblock is
[20:50] <ChogyDan> xase: try gstreamer-properties
[20:50] <xase> Ok ChogyDan let me check this out.
[20:50] <xase> as gksu or normal ?
[20:50] <ChogyDan> n n n n normal
[20:51] <Bauer17> I am trying to set up a raid 1 with 1 drive runnung ubuntu, and 2 disks as the raid 1 can someone help with the setup I am close, but getting the error "Two file systems assigned the same mount point"
[20:51] <hiexpo> hello all
[20:51] <erUSUL> !details | Bauer17
[20:51] <jafo> I tried removing linux-image with "apt-get remove", Now I can't install anything because linux-ubuntu-modules is installed, and I can't remove linux-ubuntu-modules because it can't rebuild the initrd for the non-existent kernels.  Any ideas on how I can fix it other than editing the package database directly?  I really want to do "dpkg -r" and have it not run the prerm script, but I can't find details on doing that.
[20:52] <xase> Could not open /dev/video0
[20:52] <olympus> unignore ubuntu
[20:52] <raversfantasy> hello, iam used to use Pidgin in combination with the Indicator Applet to change the status
[20:52] <xase> But only after I shut my laptop lid.
[20:52] <hiexpo> ? tring to play pyscrabble and get errors can not connect to server
[20:53] <raversfantasy> But now since iam an Karmic-User this seems just to work with Empathy
[20:53] <jafo> Flamekebab: The superblock is a block of data with the basic information about the file-system, including where it can find other parts of the file-system.  It's kind of like a table of contents of a book, to strain a metaphor.
[20:53] <raversfantasy> only
[20:53] <erUSUL> xase: when the machine comes back form suspend it does not reload the wecam driver for same reason
[20:53] <Flamekebab> jafo, right
[20:53] <Flamekebab> so is it another word for the partition table?
[20:53] <xase> erUSUL: anyway to correct it?
[20:53] <xase> modprobe cron job?
[20:53] <Bauer17> I am installing ubuntu server 9.10 I have 3 drives, 1 500MG with ext 3 / and swap set up, and 2 1.5TB drives I am trying to set up raid1, i do have a screen shot of the current set up
[20:53] <raversfantasy> Does anybody know, how to set for example the applcation(pidgin) you want to controll over the indicator-applet ?
[20:53] <MuffinPimp> What does a blinking caps lock key mean?
[20:53] <xase> MuffinPimp: Usually an error with the laptop.
[20:53] <mathew> hello everyone
[20:54] <xase> Or the PC
[20:54] <jafo> Flamekebab: No, the partition table is to the disc as the superblock is to the file-system.  So there's a partition table that points to the partition, and within that partition there's a superblock that points to the file-system data.
[20:54] <MuffinPimp> xase: so like a kernel panic?
[20:54] <xase> Kernel panic has cause that here.
[20:54] <xase> MuffinPimp: is it HP?
[20:54] <xase> or compaq?
[20:54] <guntbert> MuffinPimp: more a hardware prob
[20:54] <MuffinPimp> xase: Acer
[20:54] <Flamekebab> jafo, I understand
[20:54] <xase> Ah unsure.
[20:54] <user__> ythtv
[20:54] <xase> Probably hardware.
[20:55] <Flamekebab> jafo, does that mean that if both my primary and secondary superblocks are hosed, the data is essentially lost?
[20:55] <xase> Plus kernel panic.
[20:55] <MuffinPimp> xase: Oh that's good to know
[20:55] <MuffinPimp> T_T
[20:55] <MuffinPimp> xase: could It be faulty ram?
[20:55] <mathew> can someone help me with my suspend problem on my desktop pc
[20:55] <lumis> Hai, got Karmic on my Samsung N140 an
[20:55] <xase> I've had it caused by that on an HP
[20:55] <bk> bk66md
[20:55] <lumis> oops, hit enter too soon
[20:55] <lumis> my bad
[20:55] <user__> Ive set the ip to wake on lan, I have problems connecting to the backend, when running in a terminal it outputs 2010-02-09 21:54:37.468 MythContext: Wake-On-Lan in progress, waiting..., whats wrong?
[20:56] <user__> ive set the ip to localhost*****
[20:56] <jafo> Flamekebab: As someone else said, it's not looking good.  The data may still be there, depending on whether whatever corrupted the superblock also corrupted the data.  But getting at it is not going to be easy.  If it happened to me, I'd be re-formatting and reloading from backups.  But, I usually have pretty good backups.
[20:56] <Ragelor> hm - does anyone know, which package i have to install, if i want to use the settings:/ in konqueror (for intrepid)
[20:56] <xase> I plugged a faulty 2 gig into my laptop once, and ever since then it won't detect anything higher than 2 gigs :D
[20:56] <erUSUL> xase: /etc/default/acpi-support <<<< add the module here
[20:56] <panfist_> has anyone noticed a problem with seamless mode and compiz, where windows on the guest OS will jump in front of host windows?
[20:56] <xase> erUSUL: question, how can I tell which module it uses?
[20:57] <Flamekebab> jafo, I don't have the time or resources to frequently make 500GB backups
[20:57] <xase> Lspci?
[20:57] <BHoward> @panfist it use to happen to me then it just randomly stopped
[20:57] <mathew> as soon as i enter suspend mode, my computer wakes up
[20:57] <Flamekebab> I think the data is still there, how would I go about recovering it?
[20:57] <erUSUL> xase: use "lsmod" to list loaded modules on a working sitution
[20:57] <xase> ok so after a reboot.
[20:57] <raversfantasy> Has anybody an Idea if there is a possibility to controll Pidgin over the Indicator-Applet
[20:57] <erUSUL> xase: shoud be the modules related to v4l
[20:57] <raversfantasy> Iam using Karmic Koala
[20:57] <Bauer17> anyone have any expierience with ubuntu forums?  I signed up so i could post a question as it said that I can't post until I am activated.  how long does it take to get "activated"?
[20:57] <xase> ok I'll try that.
[20:58] <lumis> Hai, got Karmic on my Samsung N140 and recently WICD has taken forever to connect; it lags on 'Obtaining IP address...' then fails. Usually takes upwards of 20 attempts to get it to connect. Got the net819xp driver installed through ndiswrapper... When it finally connects, there's some problem with the DNS because then it won't resolve any domain names. Anyone got any ideas?
[20:58] <vinse> ok, linux newb, and one of my biggest problems is getting used to the file system.  i dont know where things are going when i install them, and i don't know where to put things
[20:58] <erUSUL> xase: you add the module name in this line --->    MODULES=""
[20:58] <olympus> Bauer17:did you check your email for the confirmation in
[20:58] <jafo> Flamekebab: IMHO, backups are not optional.  I'm backing up something around 5TB of discs just counting my personal computers, so I can assure you it's a solvable problem.
[20:58] <xase> OK :D
[20:58] <xase> Brb
[20:58] <erUSUL> !fhs | vinse
[20:58] <vinse> any standards about what all the files are for? /etc vs /usr vs /etc
[20:58] <Bauer17> yes have not recieved anything... I am able to log in though
[20:58] <vinse> ah, it's a faq ;)
[20:59] <Ragelor> does anyone know, which package i have to install, if i want to use the settings:/ in konqueror (for intrepid)
[20:59] <olympus> Bauer17: Hmmm..then i'm stumped
[20:59] <erUSUL> Ragelor: #kubuntu should know better than us
[20:59] <Tamnakz> Is it possible to install ubuntu on a HDD without being able to boot to the disk/iso?
[20:59] <jafo> Can anyone point me at the dpkg database?  I thought it was under /var/lib/dpkg, but I'm not seeing it there.
[21:00] <erUSUL> !install | Tamnakz
[21:00] <MuffinPimp> Also how do I get into the boot selection screen to choose memtest86+?
[21:00] <Ragelor> i have xubuntu with konqueror installed by hand ...
[21:00] <MuffinPimp> it just skips straight to the latest kernel
[21:00] <MaTaTaK> anyone here with suspend problems?
[21:01] <Bauer17> under a raid device (softward raid) what should the mount be, I have ubuntu installed on its own drive
[21:01] <Matisse> hi
[21:01] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: how much ram/swap do you have?
[21:01] <sam555> hello all!
[21:01] <MaTaTaK> i have 1GB of ram, swap i don't know i'm still kind of new to linux
[21:02] <sam555> where is the log located that tells you why Ubuntu crashed?
[21:02] <panfist_> is anyone running virtualbox seamless mode plus compiz?
[21:02] <waggy> Every time I try to use apt my internet connection drops out.  I'm on Karmic using a Sony Vaio... Any ideas?
[21:02] <Matisse> can somebody help me with sound in dosbox? it seems to have a lack (or however I should call it) every 2 seconds, the music is interrupted
[21:02] <Jooder492> can you convert a windows driver into linux?
[21:02] <gregor_> yeah
[21:03] <Jooder492> how?
[21:03] <MaTaTaK> MuffinPimp: i'm not scared to tweak linux cause i have done it before but nothing worked. I think it might be a swap problem. how do i check how much swap i have?
[21:03] <jafo> Jooder492: Pain and suffering.
[21:03] <tessarakt2> does the Ubuntu netbook remix installation image contain a text-mode installer?
[21:03] <gregor_> jou need the sys en inf file
[21:03] <waggy> Matisse, its dropping out.  You perhaps need to tweak the audio settings
[21:03] <Jooder492> ok
[21:03] <Jooder492> =\
[21:03] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: to hibernate you need to have as much swap as you have ram
[21:04] <Matisse> waggy, is it a caching problem?
[21:04] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: so if you have 1 gig of ram you need 1 gig or more of swap
[21:04] <waggy> sam555, /var/log
[21:04] <sam555> thanks waggy
[21:05] <Bauer17> under a raid device (software raid) what should the mount be, I have ubuntu installed on its own drive then 2 drived that I am going to use as a file server
[21:05] <waggy> Matisse, perhaps.  It will be using emulation so you might need to set the Acceleration up too
[21:05] <waggy> sam555, np
[21:05] <MaTaTaK> MuffinPimp: how do i do that? i don't use hibernate. i'm using linux mint 8 which is the same as ubuntu. i'm duel booting with windows xp pro
[21:05] <guntbert> !mint | MaTaTaK
[21:05] <waggy> so, come on... has _no-one_ ever come across apt causing your internet connection to disappear?
[21:06] <waggy> MaTaTaK, you can check how much swap you have in System Monitor
[21:06] <MaTaTaK> waggy: ok i'll try that now
[21:07] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: well anyway what I just said only apply's to hibernate it should suspend just fine
[21:07] <waggy> MaTaTaK, gparted will allow you to resize partitions (including swap).. use a livecd and deselect the livecd from using swap then resize
[21:09] <xase> ... erUSUL, I have pastebinned both working LSMOD output, and nonworking state...
[21:09] <MaTaTaK> muffinPimp: okay i think i have 899.8MB of swap and 1002.2MB of memory
[21:09] <xase> I can see what's wrong, in a video section, but unsure of how to handle it.
[21:10] <alabd> Can we order ubuntu cd for free yet ?
[21:10] <tasslehoff> !digikam
[21:10] <IrCYop> How do I check which versions of applications are available to me to install with apt-get, then how do I install the unstable package
[21:11] <xase> alabd, Shipit?
[21:11] <xase> !shipit
[21:11] <xase> Bah
[21:11] <xase> See.
[21:11] <xase> :D
[21:11] <FloodBot4> xase: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:11] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: yeah but your computer should suspend just fine it just won't hibernate if there is more swap then ram
[21:11] <MuffinPimp> err
[21:11] <tasslehoff> how do I check which version of digikam is in 9.10 (in this channel)? isn't there a trigger of some sort?
[21:11] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: rame then swap
[21:11] <MuffinPimp> ram*
[21:12] <MuffinPimp> !grub
[21:12] <MuffinPimp> O_o
[21:12] <diddy> Is msdos filesystem fat32?
[21:12] <MuffinPimp> !grub2
[21:12] <MaTaTaK> MuffinPimp: it enters suspend but wakes up as soon as it enters so i guess i have to resize the swap
[21:12] <CShadowRun> !info digikam | tasslehoff
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> diddy, good question for ##windows (but no)
[21:13] <MuffinPimp> MaTaTaK: yeah try that
[21:13] <tasslehoff> CShadowRun: thanks :)
[21:13] <MaTaTaK> so do i have to delete my linux or can i just resize it?
[21:14] <waggy> MaTaTaK, you can resize
[21:14] <ZykoticK9> MuffinPimp, why are you helping MaTaTaK?  you should be directing him to a Mint support group - Mint isn't supported here!  (If it's "the same" why doesn't he install Ubuntu, then he can get support in this channel?)
[21:14] <waggy> backup 1st
[21:14] <GSF1200S> can anyone tell me why the / partition of ubuntu is taking almost 27GB when I installed yesterday?
[21:15] <zvacet> I try to install eqinox following http://equinox-project.org/wiki/UbuntuInstallation but get error http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mc91d00c
[21:15] <waggy> ZykoticK9, because this is a general question that is not really Ubuntu specific. and there is a larger community here
[21:15] <klappi> GSF1200S: try xdiskusage to find out ^^
[21:15] <MaTaTaK> i can install ubuntu right now if i want, i'm sorry if i made anyone upset :( i just heard that mint 8 is based off of ubuntu and so far it looks the same just diffrent menu
[21:16] <waggy> ZykoticK9, and as for why doesn't he install Ubuntu instead?  Well perhaps they want certain packages that mint offers
[21:16] <diddy> ZykoticK9, why for windows? Ubuntu supports those file systems.
[21:16] <maxtor> Hi there, i need help updating from ubuntu 5.4 to the latest using APT.
[21:16] <waggy> MaTaTaK, take no notice.. Linux is about _community_
[21:16] <xase> MaTaTak I use Ubuntu...
[21:16] <xase> With the mint menu
[21:17] <MaTaTaK> i like ubuntu it was my first linux and i never wanted to use any other i just tried this one to see if it would fix my problem but it didn't i will install ubuntu though cause i like it better
[21:17] <zvacet> maxtor : if it is not mistake and you have 5.4 back up your data and do fresh install
[21:17]  * waggy think by falling out over mint and ubuntu we're flooding the channel
[21:17] <klappi> maxtor: i would make a good backup first ^^
[21:17] <diddy> I had used a fat32 USB that I had formatted under Windows XP with my DVD player to watch movies on my TV. However, no matter what I do I can not get it to work if I format it to fat32 under Ubuntu.
[21:17] <xase> MaTaTaK what problem?
[21:18] <maxtor> Problem is, only OS cd here i have is 5.04 i have no means of downloading a new cd.
[21:18] <waggy> xase: hibernate-suspend i think
[21:18] <MaTaTaK> the suspend problem not working in either distro
[21:18] <maxtor> Only way i can think is APT-get
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> diddy, msdos uses FAT12 or FAT16
[21:18] <maxtor> :(
[21:18] <tp43> suspend works fine for me
[21:18] <waggy> 5.04... oldskool bro
[21:18] <FuzzyFox0> hey all
[21:19] <FuzzyFox0> I setup a localhost today however I am having an issue
[21:19] <tp43> not in debian though, but when I installed ubuntu, it works
[21:19] <xase> Oh man, I wish I could help =/
[21:19] <Flamekebab> jafo, whilst backups may be crucial to you, the contents of this hard disk are reproducable with a little effort. As I said, I simply don't have the cash to buy hard disks to make backups of everything. That said, what are my options with regards to data recovery?
[21:19] <MaTaTaK> i can enter suspend but like 1 sec later it wakes up
[21:19] <xase> suspend/hibernate is a pain.
[21:19] <xase> Do you have a stuck key?
[21:19] <xase> And before saying no... are you sure?
[21:19] <waggy> FuzzyFox0, ask, dont flood
[21:19] <diddy> ZykoticK9, I formated the USB stick with mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdd1 but when looking at the properties in Nautilus it says msdos file system and my DVD player says "empty stick" even though there is a movie on it.
[21:19] <IP-v6> hi chan !
[21:19] <IP-v6> why does empathy set automatically status from hidden to busy? can it be bug ?
[21:19] <MaTaTaK> xase: it is, i remember running into problems when using ubuntu on my laptop
[21:19] <facade_> Hullo
[21:19] <maxtor> My apt dont seem to update eather, i think its looking in the wrong locations for its files, when i tell it apt-get update it updates in seconds but not downloading any updates
[21:19] <zvacet> maxtor:  you have to go with upgrades to unsupported and then to the supported releases it is easier and quicker to download latest release
[21:20] <maxtor> as if it has everything.
[21:20] <xase> Hmm
[21:20] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa: that server we setup ealier, is there a way to stop it using my computer's root?
[21:20] <xase> I dunno
[21:20] <FuzzyFox0> as the server root
[21:20] <xase> I really hate UPS... they should run Linux... I wonder if they do.
[21:20] <MaTaTaK> but now i know it must be the swap file not being the same size as my ram
[21:20] <FuzzyFox0> (lamp stack)
[21:20] <waggy> diddy, use gparted, it saves getting a flag wrong when using the terminal and formatting
[21:20] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Humm; I've always run the daemon as root myself, I *think*
[21:20] <ZykoticK9> diddy, i don't do any Microsoft "stuff" i'm not the person to ask (mind you i do have an M.C.S.E, lol)
[21:20] <xase> MaTaTak, it should be larger than your ram...
[21:20] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Unless it uses www-data?
[21:20] <xase> How much Ram
[21:20] <xase> ?
[21:20] <FuzzyFox0> the server docs are in /var/www
[21:20] <zvacet> maxtor:  reason is you use unsupported version so no updates for that
[21:20] <MuffinPimp> But anyway how do I use memtest86+ with the new grub?
[21:21] <fabio125> hi, how do u know ho to get shadows for the plasma tooltip using compiz?
[21:21] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Could you run ps aux | grep apache2 for me please?
[21:21] <FuzzyFox0> sure
[21:21] <MaTaTaK> xase: well in xp it says i have 1024mb, in ubuntu its 1002mb
[21:21] <ZykoticK9> diddy, i think Nautilus probably just calls any FAT file system msdos (even though it technically isn't)
[21:21] <diddy> waggy, gparted won't do anything to the stick. The context menu only provides the option "information". Everything else is greyed out.
[21:21] <panfist_> is anyone running virtualbox seamless mode plus compiz?
[21:21] <xase> how much swap?
[21:21] <maxtor> Is there a way i can upgrade it just a little, then upgrade it again from there.
[21:21] <waggy> FuzzyFox0, install rapache and you can manage your install easier
[21:21] <MenZa> !anyone | panfist_
[21:21] <maxtor> eventualy getting a supported system
[21:22] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Unnecessary.
[21:22] <waggy> diddy, try running it as root
[21:22] <MenZa> Er, waggy* ^
[21:22] <xase> I have 4 gigs ram here and 4.5gig swap
[21:22] <daftykins> maxtor: do you have the lines referring to the CD at the top of your sources.list? re: your updates completing so quick
[21:22] <waggy> MenZa, ?
[21:22] <ZykoticK9> panfist_, under karmic if i switch to seamless mode it brakes the VM totally?!
[21:22] <MaTaTaK> xase: looking at my system monitor it says Swap 0 bytes (0.0%) of 899.8mb
[21:22] <FuzzyFox0> http://pastebin.com/m2924a31
[21:22] <zvacet> maxtor:  it will look like this 5.4>5.10>6.06>6.10>7.04>7.10>8.04>8.10>9.04>9.10
[21:22] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa: ^^
[21:22] <panfist_> when running virtualbox seamless mode and compiz, is there a way to prevent the guest OS windows from randomly popping in front of host windows randomly
[21:22] <xase> ahh
[21:22] <noctiphile> Was it ever determined why upgrading to 9.10 caused so many wireless connections to stop working?
[21:23] <maxtor> daftykins,  i think it is trying to do that, im not sure where to find the sources list its been a while since ive used linux.
[21:23] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: So it runs the primary daemon as root, but the daemons it spawns run as www-data, which doesn't seem like a bad option.
[21:23] <panfist_> zykotick9 are you running OSE or the closed version?
[21:23] <xase> swap should be at least 1024 if not just a squeeze more to make sure.
[21:23] <diddy> waggy, I ran it as root
[21:23] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Besides, Apache is safe enough to use, and as are the modules included
[21:23] <wysiwyg_> does this os suport packet captureing and have a capture driver installed?
[21:23] <daftykins> maxtor: hit alt+f2, run dialogue window should appear, then type "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and pastebin us the file for a look-see
[21:23] <maxtor> since theres no cd in anymore i beleve it checks for cd, realises theres no cd there then stops the update
[21:23] <ZykoticK9> panfist_, PUEL (closed source)
[21:23] <daftykins> !pastebin > maxtor
[21:23] <bananas> zz
[21:23] <guntbert> !sudo | waggy I guess yout this anyway :)
[21:23] <bananas> #
[21:24] <guntbert> you meant
[21:24] <GSF1200S> klappi: it just shows 27GB of space as used with "permission denied" even if I open xdiskusage as root
[21:24] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa I would like to have it so that all files in /var/www think that that is /
[21:24] <MaTaTaK> xase: if i install ubuntu using the liveCD, do i click on advance when it comes to installing it on my drive along side XP?
[21:24] <waggy> MenZa, was that aimed at me?  I already told fuzzy to get straight to the point and ask the Q ;0)
[21:24] <FuzzyFox0> like with lampp
[21:24] <IrCYop> Anyone know of an ubuntu package for trac 0.12
[21:24] <maxtor> in sources.list there  is nothing writen there
[21:25] <maxtor> in gedit
[21:25] <zvacet> maxtor:  why do you want to do it hard way with so many upgrades something can go wrong and with downloaded CD you can always reinstall and it will be faster
[21:25] <daftykins> maxtor: sure you didn't typo?
[21:25] <waggy> guntbert, yout?  of course I meant run with superuser privs
[21:25] <maxtor> zvacet,  i have no drives that can burn.
[21:25] <alabd> when firefox open a flash stream crashesh how to close the page ?
[21:25] <xase> yes
[21:25] <facade_> Sorry for intruding, but I want a program that makes random words from a list I give it.
[21:26] <daftykins> alabd: as in you've got it trying to open the same crashing tab so it's in a loop?
[21:26] <zvacet> maxtor:  are you dual booting
[21:26] <waggy> maxtor, you sure you got the right sources.lst
[21:26] <MaTaTaK> sounds good... i'll look at some guides on google too! thanks
[21:26] <infid> how come 'apt-get install git' says 'installing gnuit' instead?
[21:26] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Is the server running alright for you?
[21:26] <BHoward> @facade can you explain a little more?
[21:26] <maxtor> on top of gedit is says sources.list' (/home/maxtor/'/etc/apt) - gedit
[21:26] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa well, I am trying to fix this first issue
[21:26] <MenZa> Sounds like you want git-core, infid
[21:27] <alabd> daftykins: no now humble can not do anything in firefox
[21:27] <waggy> maxtor: should be    /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:27] <maxtor> na im not dual booting :(
[21:27] <wysiwyg_> does this set up /CaptureSupport - support packet capturing, e.g. capture support is enabled / a capture driver is installed
[21:27] <facade_> similar to this site (http://www.nexi.com/fun/rw/index.html)
[21:27] <daftykins> alabd: there's a switch for firefox, i know it on windows but not Linux, open a terminal and try "firefox -profilemanager" and see if you get the option to reset your profile / create a clean one
[21:27] <zvacet> maxtor:  do you have usb
[21:28] <klappi> GSF1200S: use du then to search
[21:28] <tgm4883> so I just bought a new hard drive for an old laptop, the bios reports the drive is 137GB, but palimpsest disk utility says it is 250GB (the drive is a 250GB WD drive). Is this going to cause me trouble if I try installing on this drive?
[21:28] <FuzzyFox0> I realy do need it to use /var/www as the root and not /
[21:28] <diddy> If I want to create a USB stick under Ubuntu that any DVD player can read do I have to make it bootable or anything else? I can not understand why it is that difficult.
[21:28] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: What's using / as root? Apache uses /var/www
[21:28] <zvacet> I try to install eqinox following http://equinox-project.org/wiki/UbuntuInstallation but get error http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mc91d00c please help!
[21:29] <Guest57079> hi guys, i downloaded a torrent from the net (it s legal, it s a demo of some plasma tv) but i don t know how to watch it
[21:29] <tessarakt2> diddy: probably not
[21:29] <Guest57079> bdmv files
[21:29] <facade_> I want to enter (cat feline snow chill ice kitty) an have it output some random words using the input.
[21:29] <wysiwyg_> or is there something i have to ?
[21:29] <MenZa> zvacet: Try going to your home folder with 'cd'
[21:29] <tessarakt2> the DVD player is supposed to read things like .mp3s or .avis?
[21:29] <thenthenio> For setting up a LAMP server: apache2 mysql-server and which package for php?
[21:29] <FuzzyFox0> yes but if I try to link to any file in a html file e.g. ./assets.html it tries to get the file from /
[21:29] <aiwa> How do i butn a music cd using banshee media player?
[21:29] <Gnea> Guest57079: try mplayer
[21:29] <FuzzyFox0> not from /var/www
[21:29] <maxtor> http://www.pastebin.org/89151
[21:29] <Guest57079> Gnea: mplayer? that s it?
[21:29] <daftykins> thenthenio: there are plenty of guides online. probably mysql-server. run "apt-cache search mysql server" for more info
[21:30] <maxtor> zwaget i dont unfortunetly
[21:30] <Gnea> Guest57079: see what happens
[21:30] <zvacet> MenZa:  I´m in my home directory but I made new folder there to download
[21:30] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: It shouldn't do that with the default configuration. Check your Apache config and vhosts (/etc/apache2/sites-enabled and /etc/apache2/apache2.conf)
[21:30] <waggy> thenthenio, php5
[21:30] <Guest57079> oops not installed...
[21:30] <daftykins> maxtor: yeah see the top one, you chopped some of it off though, "deb cdrom..." does it have a # before it?
[21:30] <maxtor> zwaget i have camera's and stuff that have sd cards in them, xbox's and stuff read them as external drives?
[21:30] <Gnea> so install it :)
[21:30] <MenZa> zvacet: Yes, but the guide stupidly suggests that you make that directory as root. You can fix it with "sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/sourcecode" though.
[21:30] <Gnea> !info mplayer
[21:30] <diddy> What could I be doing wrong?
[21:31] <aiwa> Does anybody know how to burn a music cd using the bashee music player???? pleasseee
[21:31] <MenZa> zvacet: Then you should be able to do the other steps as they appear.
[21:31] <facade_> BHoward:similar to this site (http://www.nexi.com/fun/rw/index.html)
[21:31] <maxtor> no # before that
[21:31] <mattgyver> hey guys, is there a better remote desktop manager then, Remote Desktop?  Id like something like TSclient that can manage multiple sessions better
[21:31] <daftykins> maxtor: yeah so it's defaulting to CD. put a # in front, save it, then run "sudo apt-get update" from command line again
[21:31] <diddy> How does Windows XP format the USB differently than Ubuntu? I thought fat32 is fat32.
[21:31] <wysiwyg_> ok how do i go about granting a program privlages?
[21:31] <seren> hello, no matter what I change I can't find out how to allow apache2 to write from a symlink to my home directory, the symlinks are /var/www/wtorrent/torrents and /var/www/wtorrent/data they point to ~/Downloads/Finished and ~/Downloads/Add,  here is a paste of the revelant info http://pastie.org/817082
[21:31] <daftykins> maxtor: wait i messed up
[21:31] <thenthenio> waggy: thank you!
[21:31] <Gnea> diddy: fat32 != fat16
[21:31] <wysiwyg_> oh checking to see if i have a capture driver installed?
[21:32] <maxtor> ok dude
[21:32] <Gnea> diddy: and they actually format the same, it's there are different defaults between the two
[21:32] <waggy> thenthenio, no worries.. you could just have installed using tasksel
[21:32] <diddy> Gnea, huh? Yes I know and ext3 != fat32
[21:32] <aiwa> hey how do i burn a music cd on ubuntu?
[21:32] <waggy> seren, you need to setup virtualhosts using rapache
[21:32] <maxtor> Should i be removing one of the #'s as well to make it target one of the urls on the sources list?
[21:33] <unimatrix> how do i store something into a variable in shell and keep the line breaks?
[21:33] <Gnea> diddy: mkfs.vfat has a number of options to make it like XP
[21:33] <diddy> Gnea, could you please tell me which one that is?
[21:33] <seren> waggy i assume there is a article in wiki?
[21:33] <MHz128> Is there a graphical macro recorder available in the repo's?
[21:33] <IrCYop> Anyone know of an ubuntu package for trac 0.12
[21:33] <daftykins> maxtor: yeah, that's what i didn't realise,try this: http://www.pastebin.org/89152
[21:33] <MHz128> ie. mouse clicks and key strokes
[21:33] <waggy> seren,  yeah google will give you a head start
[21:33] <Gnea> diddy: not off the top of my head right now, but man mkfs.vfat explains them all
[21:33] <zvacet> MenZa:  TNX  8-)
[21:34] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa http://pastebin.com/dadb5612 http://pastebin.com/d67dcf039
[21:34] <phirestalker> Where can I find a repo for VLC that is compiled with the --enable-loader option?
[21:35] <aiwa> so no one here ever burned a music cd on linux?
[21:35] <diddy> Gnea, it only has the useful option -F 32 which I used. And that didn't work. I don't see anything else in the man page that would make a difference.
[21:35] <Darkben> aiwa: Use Brasero
[21:35] <waggy> IrCYop, sudo apt-cache show = no.. Maybe a ppa?
[21:36] <aiwa> Darkben: Thank you
[21:36] <maxtor> ok think it saved
[21:36] <daftykins> maxtor: cool, sudo apt-get update in terminal worky? :>
[21:36] <seren> waggy: imm assuming rapache is just a script to write a virtual host configuraiton?
[21:36] <seren> s/imm/im
[21:36] <ZykoticK9> aiwa, although it requires all the KDE libs to be install K3b is one of the most popular burning programs in Linux - it's much better in my opinion then anything Gnome based
[21:37] <waggy> rapache is a GUI manager for apache.
[21:37] <Guest57079> mplayer bugs
[21:37] <Gnea> diddy: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent#Formatting%20the%20partitions
[21:37] <thenthenio> apt-get install webmin does not find it... Is there a repo to add to /etc/apt/sources.list or do I need to manually donload and install?
[21:37] <maxtor> yes :) way 2 go
[21:37] <maxtor> :D
[21:37] <Guest57079> it can t read the m2ts
[21:37] <seren> waggy o i c
[21:37] <maxtor> thanks mate
[21:37] <ZykoticK9> thenthenio, webmin is not supported on debian/ubuntu
[21:37] <daftykins> maxtor: no problem :)
[21:37] <ubuntu> we
[21:37] <thenthenio> Ugh!
[21:37] <ubuntu> hi
[21:38] <waggy> seren, http://picasaweb.google.com/emgentili/Rapache#
[21:38] <diddy> Gnea, that is funny. That is exactly the tutorial that I used.
[21:38] <wysiwyg_> is this the wrong place to ask this?
[21:38] <ubuntu> i'm gianni.. i'm italian
[21:38] <IrCYop> waggy: it shows Version: 0.11.5-2ubuntu1
[21:38] <maxtor> some things it failed on while updating, which i can understand down to the age of this release,
[21:38] <daftykins> !it | ubuntu
[21:38] <maxtor> but im hoping ill get somwhere on some kind of update
[21:38] <ZykoticK9> !webmin > thenthenio
[21:38] <seren> i still dont know how this is going to help me I rather use vi
[21:38] <ubuntu> sorry look http://gianni91.altervista.org/untitled folder.zip
[21:38] <ubuntu> :(
[21:39] <daftykins> maxtor: yeah just bear in mind you have to go through every single version in sequence, so you might wanna find a guide on what hoary hedgehog users should start by running
[21:39] <ZykoticK9> thenthenio, but the ebox or whatever ubottu suggests IS NOT like webmin
[21:39] <diddy> Gnea, the questions is. Which type must the partition be? 0C?
[21:39] <seren> i have virtual hosts in my configiguration, apache wont write to a symlink, is there something im missing?
[21:39] <daftykins> ubuntu: i wouldn't recommend anyone to download your zip file without an explanation as to what your problem is.
[21:39] <llamanathan> Can I ask some questions about terminal here?
[21:39] <Guest57079> can t see a bdmv file... is there a way?
[21:39] <daftykins> llamanathan: ask away or try offtopic
[21:39] <maxtor> haha, maybe i could use hoary hedgehog for now for basic browsing, for now.. all i need is flash. and sound lol
[21:40] <seren> hello, no matter what I change I can't find out how to allow apache2 to write from a symlink to my home directory, the symlinks are /var/www/wtorrent/torrents and /var/www/wtorrent/data they point to ~/Downloads/Finished and ~/Downloads/Add,  here is a paste of the revelant info http://pastie.org/817082
[21:40] <Darkben> !ask
[21:40] <daftykins> maxtor: to be honest there is a lot of pain caused by upgrades, if i were you i'd get a friend to write a newer version to CD for you :)
[21:40] <llamanathan> off-topic said not to ask there... Can I open a dir in a gui via the terminal?
[21:40] <Caplain> whats the best way to convert ntfs to ext3?
[21:40] <Guest57079> llamanathan: use nautilus
[21:40] <waggy> waggy, yep..  can't find a ppa either
[21:41] <hyperstream> Caplain, google :D
[21:41] <seren> llamanathan: i would use thunar
[21:41] <maxtor> yeah, ill have to do that, i used to enjoy linux alot but my pc broke never bothered to fix it till today, i used to run xubuntu or somthing :|
[21:41] <Caplain> hyperstream, but thats what you're for :)
[21:41] <maxtor> one with all the graphics and stuf
[21:41] <seren> llamanathan: nautilus gives me problems from ssh so i use thurnar
[21:41] <maxtor> stuff*
[21:41] <hyperstream> Caplain, negative. but i can help you on the subject one sec
[21:41] <harisund> Can not find -lXi ... what library could Xi be?
[21:41] <maxtor> to be hounest i found it a problem though, very buggy :P
[21:41] <waggy> Caplain, backup to a seperate drive then reformat? (simple but effective)
[21:41] <Caplain> hyperstream, gladly appreciated
[21:41] <maxtor> that was 2 years or so ago
[21:42] <Caplain> eeek maybe, waggy
[21:42] <hyperstream> Caplain, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Convert+nfts+ext3+ubuntu
[21:42] <hyperstream> :P
[21:42] <llamanathan> I'm not doing it remotely. I would just like to be able to open something in Nautilus via terminal
[21:42] <ghigomatto> buonasera a tutti
[21:42] <Darkben> exit
[21:42] <seren> waggy is there a more etailed explination you can suggest, i dont need a gui to edit the configurations
[21:42] <hyperstream> Caplain, fix my typo, but you get the idea :D
[21:42] <seren> detailed*
[21:42] <Caplain> hyperstream, you're cute
[21:42] <Jerph> Hi, is this linux?
[21:42] <Jerph> j/k
[21:43] <waggy> llamanathan, open _something_? you mean a _location_???
[21:43] <daftykins> this... is... ubuntu! </300>
[21:43] <CyberGabber> MHz128: Maybe 'xmacro' (see synaptic) - 'xmacrorec can be used to record mouse and keyboard events on any X11 display'
[21:43] <diddy> I feel kind of stupid as an Ubuntu user having to go to my neighbor who uses Windows XP to ask him to format my USB stick with FAT32. He is going to laugh at me and ask me why I use Ubuntu.
[21:43] <Caplain> thanks, sorry i didnt google, etc
[21:43] <llamanathan> a directory yes
[21:43] <seren> diddy: mkfd.vfat
[21:43] <seren> mkfs.vfat
[21:43] <hyperstream> diddy, im pretty sure you can do it in ubuntu...
[21:43] <hyperstream> !fat32
[21:43] <Guest57079> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lire_un_blu-ray for my problem
[21:43] <seren> diddy: why use windows for that?
[21:43] <diddy> seren, that is what I have been using. See above.
[21:43] <waggy> seren, why do you need a symlink?  why not just setup the location of the virtual host as your folder in home (where you try to link to)
[21:44] <ZykoticK9> llamanathan, just use "nautilus /$dir"
[21:44] <diddy> seren, because my DVD player does not recognize the USB stick if I formatted it with mkfs.vat -f32 /dev/sdd
[21:44] <seren> waggy because i have a folder in my web dir that is pointing to my home folder
[21:44] <llamanathan> Thanks!
[21:44] <MHz128> CyberGabber, awesome! thanks
[21:44] <MHz128> CyberGabber, have you used it before?
[21:44] <Makaidos> fn,fnsf
[21:44] <Makaidos> What's up everyone
[21:44] <seren> diddy: blame your dvd player
[21:45] <diddy> seren, no it works if I format it under Win XP
[21:45] <diddy> with fat32
[21:45] <waggy> seren, yeah, but what I'm saying is, and perhaps I'm not following you here, but why not just setup /home/name/torrents/w/e as your virtual host direct?
[21:45] <ZykoticK9> llamanathan, the "/$dir" if an X variable but whatever directory you want there like "nautilus /tmp" for example
[21:45] <seren> waggy: did you look at my paste?
[21:45] <llamanathan> right. I understood that
[21:45] <waggy> seren, no sorry, I'll have a look
[21:46] <seren> waggy: i have my downloads folder in my virtual host
[21:46] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: Nothing has access to /
[21:46] <Jerph> If any of you have used windows 7, it has a few nice keyboard shortcuts: win+up = maximize; win+left = move window to left half of monitor, vertically maximized; win+shift+left = move window one monitor to the left, keeping maximize/restore state
[21:46] <ZykoticK9> llamanathan, sorry - i had some confusion yesterday when i used a $ so i thought i'd just clarify :)
[21:46] <seren> waggy: o crud i only added the web root
[21:46] <Jerph> is there a way to do the later 2 on ubuntu?
[21:46] <daftykins> Jerph: yeah i miss those whenever i use any other ver of windows now :(
[21:46] <seren> waggy: one sec
[21:47] <Jerph> daftykins: Don't fret! http://www.autohotkey.com/forum/topic21703.html
[21:47] <Jerph> I have Xp figured out, now on to ubuntu
[21:47] <Jerph> :0
[21:47] <daftykins> haha
[21:47] <daftykins> you could probably do it with compiz.
[21:47] <pleed> Isnt it possible to use lvm/crypto on the default ubuntu installation? There are no such options on the partition dialog.
[21:48] <seren> waggy: so i do this right I ass </Directory>
[21:48] <seren>          <Directory /home/jaymz/Downloads>
[21:48] <seren>          Options Inde to virtual host right
[21:48] <seren> LOL
[21:48] <seren> add
[21:48] <FloodBot4> seren: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:48] <waggy> seren, You're perhaps more on the ball than me with this, but does apache have write privileges/is it a member of a group to write to the location?
[21:48] <Jerph> ubuntu is on virtualbox. compiz doesn't run there, right?
[21:48] <daftykins> pleed: if you're running 9.10's livecd, once you select the partition layout, it'll ask if you want to encrypt your /home
[21:48] <daftykins> Jerph: correct, it won't.
[21:48] <seren> waggy: ya apache is in my users group
[21:48] <pleed> daftykins: no, i would like to encrypt the whole hdd and create lvm2 in it.
[21:48] <waggy> seren, I'm stumped then! sorry! =0)
[21:48] <CyberGabber> MHz128: No, read this small tutor; http://ikester.blogspot.com/2007/01/im-huge-fan-of-autohotkey.html
[21:48] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, it can - be sure to install the guest additions inside the VM (it doesn't run too well BTW)
[21:48] <Jerph> win+up was easy in preferences/keyboard shortcuts
[21:49] <seren> apache is odd with symlinks i think its a rroutine problem
[21:49] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, you also have to turn 3d on for the VM in it's settings
[21:49] <Jerph>  ZykoticK9: haha. Well, i'm not trying to wrestle with compiz and 3d right now - i've lost that fight before. Is there a way to do the window resizy stuff in straight gnome?
[21:50] <daftykins> pleed: you're never going to have a secure system since your kernel has to be booted from an unencrypted bootloader
[21:50] <[B]randon> so i installed ubuntu onto my 8gb flashdrive, i went to load it up, and then it went to 'grub:sh' how would i mount my flashdrive, or boot up ubuntu on my flashdrive for that matter?
[21:50] <maxtor> would u say Xubuntu 9.10 is safe yet, before it was very buggy
[21:50] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, "windows resizing stuff"? i haven't been folloing sorry
[21:50] <maxtor> when it was first out
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, read your question - I have no idea man?!?!  best of luck.
[21:51] <[B]randon> so i installed ubuntu onto my 8gb flashdrive, i went to load it up, and then it went to 'grub:sh' how would i mount my flashdrive, or boot up ubuntu on my flashdrive for that matter?
[21:51] <arand> maxtor: if you know the bugs, check their status on launchpad, without specifying any particular ones, it's very hard to say..
[21:51] <Jerph> ZykoticK9: no problem
[21:51] <boes> ciao
[21:51] <boes> ci siete
[21:51] <pleed> daftykins: sorry but i havent asked for a discussion if that makes sense... just would like to know if i can do that.
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> Jerph, many of the keycombo's you mention are already mapped to certain features of compiz
[21:51] <boes> qualcuno ITALIANO?
[21:51] <Das_Flo> Hey everyone. I have 2 ntfs partitions that I can mount and access. However, after a reboot and mounting them again, programs can't access them for some reason. Banshee needs to reload all the media, Firefox can't access the profile it's supposed to share with the windows one... what to do?
[21:51] <daftykins> pleed: sure sorry. i've no experience then i'm afraid.
[21:51] <ZykoticK9> !it | boes
[21:52] <Jerph> ZykoticK9: right right, I'm fine if it's non-standard for compiz, this is just for me
[21:52] <boes> ok grazie
[21:52] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa I am not trying to make it access / it is doing it all on its own
[21:52] <Jerph> I have this huge monitor running an Ubuntu VM. I just miss my left-half right-half shortcuts. Amazingly useful
[21:52] <pleed> daftykins: okay thanks.
[21:52] <MenZa> FuzzyFox0: It shouldn't be.
[21:52] <IP-v6> !appdb
[21:52] <FuzzyFox0> it is
[21:53] <[B]randon> so i installed ubuntu onto my 8gb flashdrive, i went to load it up, and then it went to 'grub:sh' how would i mount my flashdrive, or boot up ubuntu on my flashdrive for that matter?
[21:53] <IP-v6> excuse me appdb is for myself : )
[21:53] <daftykins> [B]randon: when you installed, did you do it from livecd with hard disks in the machine?
[21:53] <[B]randon> yeah :P
[21:54] <FuzzyFox0> MenZa do you think reinstalling might work?
[21:54] <[B]randon> daftykins, i did, should i just take out all harddisks?
[21:54] <daftykins> [B]randon: give it a try again and be sure to check advanced at the end and say install GRUB to the flash drive, /dev/sdx or whatever it comes up as. or pull drives ja
[21:54] <Maletor> Where should I put http://unicorn.bogomips.org/examples/init.sh on my Linux server and how do I add it to update-rc.d so that it will start on startup?
[21:54] <[B]randon> daftykins, so it's using the MBR from my windows drives instead of straight installing to my flashdrive?
[21:55] <daftykins> [B]randon: i dunno, somethings messing up :) if you want to be 100% it's b0rked, use your BIOS to force USB as the only boot device / hit the key that gives you a boot menu and select USB only
[21:56] <[B]randon> daftykins, yeah which is usually F8 at startup, well I'll make sure to pull all 8 of my drives when re-installing to flashdrive, thanks brother! :D
[21:56] <seren> waggy: w00t got it
[21:56] <daftykins> [B]randon: for yours and my BIOS, not every ;) good luck
[21:56] <[B]randon> daftykins, thanks man [;
[21:57] <nitemovz> I am trying to figure out how to configure Ubuntu Server to work as a mail server, can anyone help me?
[21:57] <waggy> seren, how?
[21:57] <seren> waggy i had a .htaccess file that had the wrong user in it, was something i over looked
[21:58] <waggy> seren, ahhh lol
[21:58] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, if you don't get an answer in this channel you might also want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:59] <nitemovz> oh, I didn't know there was one for Server, I will go to that one instead
[21:59] <nitemovz> Thanks ZykoticK9
[21:59] <harisund> Is there any webpage that shows how to make Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit usable? As in install the latest firefox, install flash, java, acrobat and associated browser plugins, standard codecs etc etc ? I managed to get all the hardware working perfectly, now I would like some software to make the machine useful
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> nitemovz, #ubuntu is a good place to ask as well :)  many more people
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> harisund, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will certainly get you started
[22:01] <harisund> ZykoticK9, that's a start, will do man thanks
[22:01] <BluesKaj> harisund, the medibuntu repos won't hurt either
[22:02] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[22:02] <harisund> BluesKaj, cool cool .. thank you thank you :)
[22:03] <BluesKaj> harisund, hope ithelps
[22:03] <harisund> I will check it out. Thanks again
[22:04] <Roald> Euhm guys, I'm a total Linux newbie, just installed ubuntu today and I tried to get use my wireless internet. Problem is I can't find the wireless network, i can see other networks but mine doen't show up. The SSID isn't hidden
[22:05] <Wicked> hello all...it seems my hard drive had a error and remounted as read only as its supposed to do via fstab settings. But i ran fsck on the drive and it seems to be fixed...but i cannot get the drive to remount as rw...when i remount the drive its still mounting as read only...
[22:05] <BluesKaj> Roald, what wifi chip do you have ?
[22:06] <Roald> i use a D link DWA 140 usb adapter
[22:06] <Roald> dunno what chip it uses
[22:06] <wizzo50> #unity-coders
[22:06] <LonelyDragon> that was weird...
[22:06] <LonelyDragon> how do you get ubuntu 9.10 (edubuntu) to redetect the video hardware / monitor settings...
[22:07] <LonelyDragon> 'cause my resolution is maxed at 800x600 and I should be able to do 12xx-1024
[22:07] <Trek> LonelyDragon, edubuntu questions can be resolved in #edubuntu i think
[22:07] <LonelyDragon> join #edubuntu
[22:07] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: lscpi
[22:08] <lowryS_> join #edubuntu
[22:08] <LonelyDragon> lscpi?
[22:08] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: in terminal and tell me what the video card is??
[22:09] <ZykoticK9> LonelyDragon, using "lspci | grep -i vga" will be MUCH easier!
[22:09] <LonelyDragon> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
[22:09] <doobeh^> Roald: out of interest, what's your SSID called?
[22:09] <Roald> VH
[22:09] <UbuntuUser> Ive compiled Audacious succesfully, but I want to know how to change this:
[22:09] <Roald> it's called
[22:09] <UbuntuUser> http://www4.pic-upload.de/09.02.10/rs1pqo8vvtj.png
[22:10] <doobeh^> Roald: What's the make/model of the router?
[22:10] <UbuntuUser> normally: http://www.howtoforge.de/images/perfect_desktop_mandriva_2008_1_gnome/audacious.jpg
[22:10] <Roald> DWA 140 wireless router
[22:10] <Roald> D link
[22:11] <Trek> !enter | Roald
[22:11] <ownlife> Hey!
[22:11] <Roald> sorry
[22:11] <ZykoticK9> UbuntuUser, you mean the black background?  that is how mine (from the repo) appears.  could it be a theme issue, in ubuntu i mean?
[22:12] <BluesKaj> Roald , your wifi adapter uses the ralink rt2870 driver which I also have, but unfortunately i haven't had any luck getting it to work
[22:12] <UbuntuUser> yea, I mean the black background. Audacious 2.2 from getdeb PPA has not this "bug"
[22:12] <LonelyDragon> like I said... my Intel 82845G/GL is only giving me 800x600...
[22:13] <ownlife> Would anyone recommend an IRC client other than irssi?
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> Roald, could you temporarily disable encryption on your router and see if it then shows up in the wireless list?
[22:13] <jrib> ownlife: weechat
[22:13] <UbuntuUser> and no, its not a theme issue
[22:13] <Roald> but the thing is that there are some wireless networks showing up in my list
[22:13] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, if you want a GUI perhaps xchat
[22:13] <ownlife> Does weechat accessible through reposutory?
[22:13] <ownlife> okay
[22:14] <ownlife> Xchat I've used before :D
[22:14] <doobeh^> ownlife: I use Quassel, that's available via the repo's
[22:14] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: system > administration > hardware drivers
[22:14] <ownlife> Alright, thanks for the help!
[22:14] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: see if there is a hardware driver available
[22:14] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, i'd recommend just xchat, not the xchat-gnome - but some people prefer it
[22:15] <ownlife> I have Gnome?
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, so do i
[22:15] <Trek> ownlife: just do this: sudo apt-get install xchat
[22:15] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, you can install both and see which you prefer
[22:15] <Trek> ownlife: what ZykoticK9 said
[22:15] <doobeh^> Roald: http://fostergrant.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1333255 mentions various tips about getting the DWA 140 working
[22:15] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: I loaded my laptop with debian so it may not be in that location...
[22:16] <diablodf> amsn does not function video with dlink di-524.
 already I changed the MTU for 1492, more exactly thus not to function the colloquy with video.
[22:16] <Inquiry> Hello, everyone.  Been a while.  I've got an easy one this time.  Trying to upgrade my distro from Hardy Heron 8.04.  Can't seem to get it going.  Anyone know I need to go about this?
[22:17] <trijntje> alt +f2 "update-manager -d"
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> Inquiry, you might want to wait the 79 days until Lucid is released
[22:17] <Trek> Inquiry: you need to go from version to version
[22:17] <nitemovz> how do I configure VPN?
[22:17] <Inquiry> What's lucid, other than a heightened state of consciousness, that is.?
[22:17] <ZykoticK9> !lucid | Inquiry
[22:18] <Trek> Inquiry: its 10.04, the next version
[22:18] <Trek> or what ubottu just said
[22:18] <ownlife> exit
[22:18] <ZykoticK9> Inquiry, basically you are currently using a LTS release, and Lucid is the next LTS release
[22:19] <ownlife_> Apparently the terminal and hl console isn't the same gig
[22:19] <Roald1> disabeling encryption doesnt help
[22:19] <Inquiry> Okay, well, I wasn't wanting the release that's not out yet, but thanks.
[22:19] <archboxman> Well Debian is ok ,but not good for a laptop back to ubuntu 9.04... :)
[22:19] <doobeh^> nitemovz: http://paulstamatiou.com/how-toreview-surf-securely-with-vyprvpn has a VPN guide, scroll down about half way for the ubuntu bits
[22:19] <Alan502> Would someone help me with firefox?
[22:20] <jrib> Alan502: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:20] <ZykoticK9> Roald1, a "work-around" would be to set your router up to NOT broadcast SSID and use MAC filtering so only approved MAC addresses could connect
[22:20] <Syirrus> anyone know where I can find kde 4.4 binaries for ubuntu 9.10 AMD 64?
[22:20] <doobeh^> nitemovz: it's focused on the settings for the VyprVPN service, so just ignore the settings it requires for that.
[22:20] <nitemovz> doobeh^: Thanks!
[22:20] <Alan502> Okay, so when i click a link that opens in a new window Firefox alerts "javascript - sercurity error"
[22:20] <Inquiry> How to ask this?  Hmm.  I'm running Hardy Heron 8.04 on a laptop with no problems at all, except that I can't seem to get rubygame to install, and some other folks are telling me that I need to upgrade my distro.  But I'm not convinced.
[22:21] <ZykoticK9> Roald1, SORRY "doesn't help" missread you!
[22:21] <LonelyDragon> archboxman :  I don't see any proprietary drivers used on this system...
[22:21] <llamanathan> exit
[22:21] <archboxman> hmmm??
[22:21] <Roald1> the weird thing is that i can see all other networks in my neighbourhood but mine doesnt show up
[22:22] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: hold on :)
[22:23] <LonelyDragon> archboxman: no prob...   I used to have it working LONG time ago... just recently reloaded (from WattOS... and has Xbuntu on here before that)...  just frustrating...
[22:23] <doobeh^> Roald1: This probably won't work, but did once for me on a Symbol router, try changing the channel and the SSID name (long shot, but if you're already pulling at straws...)
[22:23] <antdawg> i have a toshiba satellite, a215-7437, to be exact..i've been using ubuntu since 2006 on desktop computers, but can't find a way for hibernate/sleep to work on this sucker
[22:23] <Roald1> i'll try that
[22:23] <LonelyDragon> and don't see /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the system either... which I thought was strange   and tried to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  but it just goes to the next line in terminal...  and doesn't do anything.
[22:23] <antdawg> anyone had success with the acpi on someting like this toshiba satellite?
[22:23] <ownlife> Would skype be in the repo?
[22:23] <Syirrus> How do I compile KDE 4.4 SC. Is there a way I can download it from an ftp site extract and compile in a few cli commands?
[22:24] <ownlife> n/m
[22:24] <archboxman> LonelyDragon:  locate xorg.conf... in terminal
[22:24] <trism> Syirrus: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build (it is not straightforward)
[22:25] <Syirrus> Thank you Trism
[22:26] <Roald1> doobeh^: it doesn't help
[22:26] <antdawg> becuase this suspend/hibernate issue is killing my battery life, so bad, that i'm just gonna forfeit to using XP...
[22:26] <Inquiry> What is the latest stable Ubuntu release?  And can I upgrade to it from my 8.04?
[22:26] <archboxman> LonelyDragon:you find xorg.conf???
[22:27] <antdawg> Inquiry, it should be available in the update manager..."A newer version of Ubuntu is..."
[22:27] <LonelyDragon> not sure where to look.
[22:27] <trism> Inquiry: 9.10, an no, you need to go 8.04->8.10->9.04->9.10, you are better off clean installing (or you can wait and go 8.04->10.04)
[22:27] <ayam_jago> antdawg : try go to System, Administration, Hardware Drivers
[22:27] <LonelyDragon> i think I found it earlier this morning (or last night)... in my home .something directory... but not sure if that was a valid one.
[22:27] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: Terminal type locate xorg.conf
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> Inquiry, because you are using LTS it's not going to show an upgrade option (by default) until Lucid is released -- there are ways to upgrade to non-LTS (i just don't remember how)
[22:28] <Inquiry> antdawg:  That's the problem, right there.  Update manager doesn't show any reference at all to new distro releases being available.  I don't know that it ever did.  I did an update using it just today, but I still have 8.04 afterwards.
[22:28] <archboxman> LonelyDragon:you find xorg.conf???
[22:29] <trism> Inquiry: if you wanted to upgrade the hard way, you can enable it in System/Adminstration/Software Sources on the Update tab, switch from lts to normal releases
[22:29] <LonelyDragon> ya.. found three.. sort of...
[22:29] <antdawg> Inquiry, see trism 's comment...you will have to do that.  update-manager -d will most likely break ur system
[22:29] <LonelyDragon> the one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is one I think I cp to that location though...   from my /home/dragon/xorg.conf.new file
[22:29] <root__> hey
[22:29] <LonelyDragon> and see one says   /usr/share/man/man5/xorg.conf.5.gz
[22:30] <Alan502> Okay, so when i click a link that opens in a new window Firefox alerts "javascript - sercurity error"
[22:30] <tola> why??
[22:30] <Inquiry> antdawg: Yeah, I was afraid that something like that could happen.
[22:30] <root__> any1 know how i can turn on wireless in backtrack4?
[22:30] <Alan502> can somone hlep me?
[22:30] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: Did you mv the file to your home directory???
[22:30] <unixalot> root__: you've already tried ifconfig up? ifup ifdown??
[22:30] <LonelyDragon> nope...
[22:31] <ZykoticK9> !backtrack | root__
[22:31] <LonelyDragon> found it their earlier...  when I was trying to do google searches lastnight/this morning...
[22:31] <grendal_prime> this might seem irrelevant at first but.....
[22:31] <LonelyDragon> getting upset with this stupid machine.
[22:31] <grendal_prime>  ok was it captain jack sparro that said...."I've found the larger ones are more accommodating" ?
[22:31] <antdawg> Inquiry, you can upgrade one release at a time...but if you can backup ur home folder and reinstall 9.10, that's ur best bet
[22:31] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: what version 9.10???
[22:32] <LonelyDragon> edubuntu 9.10  i believe... at least that is what I thought I downloaded and burned
[22:32] <neurodamage> what's the correct command to run against a sites-available configuration to make it show up in the sites-enabled? other than manually symlinking it?
[22:32] <fbianconi> !karmic | archboxman
[22:32] <BluesKaj> Roald1, ZykoticK9, wicd used work well with the rt2870 ralink chip on jaunty , the upgrade to karmic appeared to kill any ability for the driver to connect. I've tried every tutorial I could find with no results. I'll be very happy if you guys can find a way to get the adapter work.
[22:33] <Inquiry> antdawg:  Yeah, I think you're right.  Rather than go through all those updates, I could just start from scratch with 9.10.
[22:33] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, sorry man - i've never used wicd in my life, hope you get it working
[22:33] <Roald1> BluesKaj: given the fact that i'm a complete newbie, chances are small that i'm going to find the solution all by myself
[22:33] <thenthenio> which DHCP server package would you suggest to install?
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> BluesKaj, have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1342593
[22:34] <thenthenio> ZykoticK9: I'm having a look to ebox...
[22:34] <archboxman> fbianconi: I didn't ask for that ... I know as of Oct 26,2009 release date.... Problem is it uses upstart = hal + udev and grub2 ... Which udev and grub2 are developmental packages in there final stage for release... Why ubuntu put them on release 9.10 is a mystery???
[22:35] <ardian> How can i use wall to say Hi ?
[22:35] <ardian> on terminal
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> thenthenio, i've never setup a DHCP server before.  best of luck - you might want to ask the same question in #ubuntu-server as well
[22:35] <BluesKaj> ZykoticK9, Roald1 , I also tried the default network manager , with no reults , but I didn't investigate it as deeply as I did with wicd
[22:35] <heg> neurodamage: sudo a2ensite <site>
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> thenthenio, ebox doesn't seem like a drop-in replacement to webmin in my opinion - best of luck
[22:36] <Roald1> BluesKaj: have you got any idea of another network manager i could use?
[22:36] <ownlife> I'm having some trouble understanding what the software channel is. I've downloading the Skype deb but I'm getting a message saying the same software version is available on the software channel. I don't know the 3 w's and Google isn't yielding good results.
[22:36] <Inquiry> antdawg: Do you know if 9.10 has any issues with wifi setups?  I ask because I had a lot of trouble getting mine to work, and I wouldn't want to have to go through that again after upgrading.
[22:36] <neurodamage> heg: that's the one thanks
[22:36] <amansou> hi
[22:36] <archboxman> Grub2 has problems with BSD's
[22:37] <thenthenio> ZykoticK9: actually I need just dhcp and samba... seems it has!
[22:37] <BluesKaj> Roald1, wicd
[22:37] <amansou> salut tout le monde
[22:37] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[22:37] <antdawg> Inquiry, it really depends on ur hardware...really could or could not.  If it works live cd, ur usually OK
[22:37] <unimatrix> is there a commandline mpd client that would be able to find album art?
[22:38] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, just because you get that message doesn't mean you can't install the package!  software channel refers to your apt-get repo list - so there must be a repo with skype already in it (so "sudo apt-get install skype" should work)
[22:38] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with xmodmap?
[22:38] <Schui> hello, i just installed counterstrike and there is no sound, any suggestions? also the text is really blocky and hard to read. i'm using karmic
[22:38] <Inquiry> antdawg:  Thanks for the tip.  I didn't even think of that.  Yeah, the live CD option would make for a safe way to run an important test.
[22:38] <Roald1> Blueskaj: I'll try that
[22:38] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: I would say you have done a lot with your current setup of eubuntu and may have played with xorg file caused problems...
[22:38] <antdawg> Inquiry, it's not 100%, but it is a good way to feel the release out...see how it's gonna work for you
[22:39] <Inquiry> antdawg:  Right.
[22:39] <BluesKaj> Roald1, it might work with your router.I suspect my problem is with configuring my router to work with the wifi adapter
[22:39] <apollo> wont show my hardware. hp mini 311.  no proprietary hardware.... etc
[22:40] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: your to backup your xorg.conf when moving the file or editing it...should have done that if you planned to edit it...
[22:42] <archboxman> LonelyDragon: the idea is to backup every conf file you plan to edit...
[22:42] <Roald1> BluesKay: Wicd still doesnt recognise my network, though the others are still showing up
[22:42] <harisund> hey guys .. can I get A2DP support on Ubuntu? How good is it?
[22:42] <ownlife> Command to open the sources.list?
[22:43] <raven> how to upgrade the distribution by command line?
[22:43] <iceroot> !upgrade | raven
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, to see it from a terminal "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[22:44] <ZykoticK9> ownlife, to open it "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" < not sure what you're trying to do though
[22:44] <ownlife> bah
[22:44] <raven> iceroot, only in command mode - apt-get dist-upgrade does not work.....
[22:44] <benofiniquity> Has anyone solved the touchpad/keyboard issue that gives all the "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg?
[22:44] <sharperguy> How do I completely get rid of firestarter and put the iptables config back to normal?
[22:45] <simulation> hello guys
[22:45] <ownlife> I'm wanting to add "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free"
[22:45] <sponzor> is there any howto set up iptables without this firewall programs..?
[22:45] <simulation> i have installed a ubuntu server on my vm machine
[22:45] <ownlife> I found the instructions to install from repo
[22:45] <simulation> at bridged networking
[22:45] <sharperguy> !return | simplexio
[22:45] <simulation> but ubuntu cant solve the networks computer names :S
[22:45] <sharperguy> ^ simulation see about :)
[22:45] <simulation> for example my hosts name is myhost
[22:45] <sharperguy> *above
[22:45] <simulation> i type ping myhost but ubuntu cant solve the ip :)
[22:46] <simulation> but i can ping the hosts ip directly :(
[22:46] <clrg> simulation: Check /etc/resolv.conf for correct DNS configuration
[22:46] <iceroot> raven: please read the link ubottu gave you
[22:46] <iceroot> raven: there is the way using the cli
[22:46] <simulation> @clrg thats correct
[22:46] <Alderbrook> Hi
[22:46] <simulation> the dns is my routers ip
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> simulation, you might not get hostname DNS support like that... maybe.  you could add entries into /etc/hosts for the name-to-ip resolution as a work around
[22:47] <clrg> simulation: Or use your /etc/hosts to map your clients
[22:47] <clrg> ZykoticK9: =)
[22:47] <nipplebutter> anyone have experience with a multi linux distro
[22:47] <simulation> hmm clrg letme try :)
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> nipplebutter, what is a "multi linux ditro"?
[22:47] <nipplebutter> the problem is i need more space for the distro i use more
[22:48] <mab> ownlife: So do you know how to open up a terminal (also known as a shell... terminal... prompt?)
[22:48] <iceroot> nipplebutter: gparted
[22:48] <nipplebutter> i got studio ubuntu and crunch bang
[22:48] <BluesKaj> Roald1, did you set up wicd with encryption ?
[22:48] <nipplebutter> installed
[22:48] <benofiniquity> Most posts online involve passing i8042.nomux=1 to the kernel or setting acpi_osi=Linux, but neither of these solve my problem.
[22:48] <simulation> but i wonder why it cant solve :)) my pyscl computers can solve the ubuntus computer name also :)
[22:48] <nipplebutter> but the problem is i am having problems identifying what partition is my studio install
[22:48] <clrg> mab: Press alt+F2 and type "gnome-terminal"
[22:48] <raven> iceroot, yes now i got it tnx
[22:48] <oizo> Question: I want a program that can remove white edges from scanned images automatically and on multiple images. Does anybody know of such a program or what it's called in "image editing language"?
[22:49] <ownlife> Well, I'm about a month new to Ubuntu. I was on Jaunty first.
[22:49] <nipplebutter> in order to delete it and resize my crunch bang partition
[22:49] <mab> clrg: I know how, I'm asing if ownlife does so I can help him.
[22:49] <nipplebutter> but i dont want to frak my grub
[22:49] <ownlife> I've been clawning my eyes out trying to learn the ins-and-outs
[22:49] <ownlife> But I'm learning the terminal commands
[22:49] <ownlife> I'm at the point that I know enough to damage stuff :D
[22:49] <mab> ownlife: Press Alt+F2 and type in "gnome-terminal", like clrg said. :D
[22:50] <mab> ownlife: alright, and you still need that repo added, right?
[22:50] <simulation> with hosts file its ok ofcourse :)
[22:50] <iurii> кто по русски говорит?
[22:50] <ownlife> Um, where can I find that mouse gesture app that launches apps based on pre-determined mouse jestures?
[22:50] <VCoolio> oizo: look into imagemagick; not sure about the lingo though
[22:50] <clrg> !ru | iurii
[22:50] <simulation> thanks for tiny tip :) but i still wonder why it cant solve the names auto :S :)
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> speaking of alt+f2, it's OT i know, was show this last night and just want to share.  if you're using Gnome and want to see an Easter Egg -- Alt+f2 and enter "gegls from outer space" for a surprise!  "free the fish" does something as well.
[22:50] <ownlife> Ya, I added it to the bottom like the rest: #Skype deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[22:50] <oizo> VCoolio: thanks
[22:51] <iurii> та я просто так
[22:51] <m0n0> hello there, does anyone know how to tell apllications (which run in a console)  the size of the terminal screen? could i use an env var for that? or something like that?
[22:51] <mab> ownlife: alright, so you have everything figured out? other than the mouse gesture app
[22:51] <mab> m0n0: what applications are you trying to run?
[22:51] <m0n0> mab: links just shows me 25 lines via my atari terminal...
[22:51] <clrg> m0n0: There's two env vars for that, I believe, but I don't recall how they're called. Try "resize"
[22:52] <ownlife> Well I'm very interested in Linux based IT
[22:52] <calrik> hi all Im having problem where my logictech g5 usb mouse would freeze for like 1-2 seconds, I have checked dmesg and seems it is disconnecting and reconnecting any ideas how to fix this from happening?
[22:52] <ownlife> I've done the windows shit for too long, that was my job in the service
[22:53] <Trek> !language | ownlife
[22:53] <Roald1> BluesKaj: euhm no i didnt
[22:53] <ownlife> Bah, sorry!
[22:53] <m0n0> thanks for the info, I'll have to look at resize :)
[22:53] <chuche> Guys one of the updates broke my ability to drag-n-drop in GNOME.
[22:53] <Roald1> BluesKaj: how do I set Wicd up with encryption?
[22:54] <benofiniquity> I keep getting "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1" and "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg.  Both my keyboard and touchpad will not respond if there's no input for a couple of seconds.  After typing a key or moving around on the touchpad, things are fine as long as I keep moving or typing. After a couple seconds, everything stops responding again.
[22:54] <chuche> When I attempt to drag-n-drop I get 60% cpu usage.
[22:54] <chuche> Everything was fine until I updated.
[22:54] <chuche> help?
[22:55] <VCoolio> oizo: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/channels/#mask_bgnd seems like what you're looking for
[22:56] <ownlife> Now that I've ruined this pg environment, I was going to ask if there are any well experienced people that'd let me bother them at all times of the day with simple questions and/or willing to explain Linux concepts
[22:56] <By_Your_Command> uh
[22:56] <BluesKaj> Roald1, actually you set your router to encrypt your wifi signal with a password and wep or wpa or wpa2 encryption , then you set the wicd network manager to match
[22:57] <ownlife> *****soft ruined my interest in the IT field, but Ubuntu lured me back in
[22:57] <By_Your_Command> Microsoft is run by Cylons
[22:57] <ownlife> I'm just trying to keep it pg
[22:57] <meelu> how do i kill PID 13288
[22:57] <meelu> pkill 13288 isnt working
[22:58] <velociostrich_> Hi all
[22:58] <VCoolio> ownlife: this channel is crowded 31; also #ubuntu-offtopic if it's not that ubuntu-related
[22:58] <archboxman> funny I didn't know my cell phone could interfer with wireless lol
[22:58] <velociostrich_> I have not been able to get sound in Enemy Territory or any mods for it;
[22:58] <By_Your_Command> You might end up going to jail  for that Meelu
[22:58] <velociostrich_> when I try to start it, I just get an error:
[22:58] <meelu> lol why
[22:58] <velociostrich_> ------- sound initialization -------
[22:58] <velociostrich_> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[22:58] <velociostrich_> Could not open /dev/dsp
[22:58] <Roald1> BluesKaj: problem is that I cant see my network in wicd
[22:58] <By_Your_Command> because it's murder
[22:58] <By_Your_Command> ;)
[22:58] <meelu> hah
[22:59] <meelu> i just need to stop firefox
[22:59] <meelu> how do i do it?
[22:59] <macrossotaku> I have three partitions on my hard drive, only two have their own trash folders, I would like the third to have one too
[22:59] <archboxman> kill command
[22:59] <VCoolio> meelu: kill pid or pkill processname
[22:59] <iceroot> meelu: killall firefox
[22:59] <By_Your_Command> find what PID firefox is and killall pid
[22:59] <coz_> meelu,  which application does this belong to?
[22:59] <meelu> firefox
[22:59] <meelu> thanks
[22:59] <coz_> meelu,   yeah  killalll firefox
[22:59] <velociostrich_> meelu: if you use killall, you don't have to specify the PID
[22:59] <velociostrich_> does anyone know why I can't get audio?
[22:59] <archboxman> meelu: disconnect your internet..
[23:00] <velociostrich_> I've checked the sound settings
[23:00] <By_Your_Command> well I always specify the PID
[23:00] <meelu> i wont be able to connect to the server if i disconnect it
[23:00] <velociostrich_> they seem ok, and when I open the mixer
[23:00] <meelu> lol
[23:00] <gregl> <velociostrich google no sound Enemy Territory..There is a fix for it.
[23:00] <velociostrich_> W:ET isn't listed
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, you can try "padsp et" but i still don't get audio either
[23:00] <BluesKaj> Roald1, set up the encryption in windows, but I suspect your wifi broadcast on the router is turned off
[23:00] <coz_> velociostrich_,   open a termina.... type   alsamixer   see if the card is listed and idf any of the sliders are down or muted
[23:00] <archboxman> meelu: stop feeding the source it will kill it...
[23:00] <velociostrich_> I'll try those fixes, thanks
[23:00] <velociostrich_> the odd thing is that it _did_ work before
[23:00]  * By_Your_Command feeds the source a hamburger
[23:00] <Roald1> BluesKaj: No it isnt because i can still connect with  a laptop running vista
[23:00] <velociostrich_> so I don't know what broke it
[23:01] <archboxman> velociostrich_: more like *pron* popups.. :)
[23:01] <By_Your_Command> PRON ;)
[23:01] <BluesKaj> Roald1, whwt encryption are you using in windows?
[23:01] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=271075 for possible solution
[23:01] <BluesKaj> what
[23:02] <By_Your_Command> ah Roald1 useing PGP encryption
[23:02] <By_Your_Command> uses*
[23:02] <Roald1> BluesKaj: WPA personal
[23:02] <velociostrich_> thanks; I just tried "padsp et" and running alsa mixer on a getty but to no avail with either
[23:02] <calrik> hi all Im having problem where my logictech g5 usb mouse would freeze for like 1-2 seconds, I have checked dmesg and seems it is disconnecting and reconnecting, I have only my mouse and keyboard plugged into usb, have the latest nvidia drivers, I have changed to different ports still same problem any ideas how to fix this from happening
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, actually that link i sent you is rather old
[23:02] <BluesKaj> Roald1, then do the same with wicd
[23:02] <By_Your_Command> calrik is it a wireless mouse?
[23:02] <velociostrich_> well, I'll try it anyway
[23:02] <velociostrich_> I'm still reading through it
[23:03] <calrik> By_Your_Command: No
[23:03] <velociostrich_> ZykoticK9: actually, I came across that already
[23:03] <velociostrich_> nothing in there worked
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, i'm worried as it seem to rely on ESD which doesn't really apply anymore
[23:04] <velociostrich_> the odd thing is that it worked less than a week ago
[23:04] <By_Your_Command> calrik: does it only disconnect when you move the mouse?
[23:04] <By_Your_Command> or does it do it with no movement?
[23:04] <velociostrich_> could a mod have broken it?
[23:04] <calrik> By_Your_Command: only when I move the mouse
[23:04] <By_Your_Command> might be a faulty wire
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich_, it's never worked for me - no idea if a mod could have broken it?  perhaps
[23:04] <Roald1> BluesKaj: I did that already, but he just keeps asking the password, which surely is correct
[23:04] <archboxman> Its great to see people playing with there boot times or xorg.conf files ,but you must backup your xorg.conf file before editing and look into run levels if you plan to play with your setup to boot faster :)
[23:05] <benofiniquity> I keep getting "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1" and "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg.  Both my keyboard and touchpad will not respond if there's no input for a couple of seconds.  After typing a key or moving around on the touchpad, things are fine as long as I keep moving or typing. After a couple seconds, everything stops responding again. Most posts online inv
[23:05] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with xmodmap?
[23:06] <velociostrich_> ZykoticK9: I think it may have stopped working after downloading the No Quarter mod; I'll try moving that out of my ~/.etwolf folder
[23:06] <By_Your_Command> khem: go to the blue door and make a right and walk 20 paces and then turn left and then walk 15 paces to the old wooden tree...
[23:06] <velociostrich_> ZykotiK9: actually, I may even just try rebooting
[23:06] <harisund> Hey guys are there any instructions for Skype 64 bit on Ubuntu? There's a .deb for Skype 64 bit on Skype web site for 8.10 .. will it work for say, 9.04? Do I need additional packages?
[23:06] <velociostrich_> it could have been some program I've run that messed it up, I don't know
[23:07] <coz_> harisund,  if it is a deb pacakges run it via the terminl  with sudo dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb  and it shoulde spit out if it needs additional libraires
[23:07] <By_Your_Command> calrik do you have another computer?
[23:08] <BluesKaj> Roald1, there is an alternative that can be used with wicd or any network manager ,it's called ndiswrapper.
[23:08] <urlwallace> Hi I am losing the wireless connection in ubuntu 9.1.0 when I swith from a published ssid to a non published one. the wireless chip atheros works great when ssid is published. Is htere a fix or config  help? thank you
[23:08] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | Roald1
[23:08] <BluesKaj> BBL...dinnertime
[23:08] <By_Your_Command> ubttu
[23:09] <urlwallace> thanks ubottu!
[23:09] <By_Your_Command> ubottu*
[23:09] <By_Your_Command> UBOT-TU
[23:09] <Roald1> BluesKaj: yes I heard of that, but isnt that to install drivers for your wireless card?
[23:09] <apollo> ubuntu wont recognize my drivers
[23:09] <archboxman> !bot
[23:09] <urlwallace> drivers work fine as long as ssid is braodcasted
[23:09] <Dzelzsbetons> apollo: are they .exe files? :D
[23:10] <By_Your_Command> apollo that's because it knows you don't have a license*
[23:10] <velociostrich> well, I tried rebooting
[23:10] <velociostrich> and lo and behold, it worked
[23:10] <ZykoticK9> velociostrich, lucky!
[23:10] <velociostrich> I think it may have been because of Adobe Flash
[23:10] <velociostrich> I had a firefox window open that I had forgot about
[23:10] <velociostrich> so yeah, that may have been keeping the sound device busy
[23:11] <apollo> how do i get a license?
[23:11] <ikonia> apollo: for what ?
[23:11] <By_Your_Command> hah
[23:11] <apollo> ubuntu wont recognize my drivers
[23:11] <velociostrich> apollo: are we talking vehicles or software? :)
[23:11] <By_Your_Command> apollo: go to the BMV
[23:11] <ikonia> apollo: for what
[23:11] <ikonia> By_Your_Command: please don't mess around with people needing help
[23:11] <coz_> apollo,  I cant think of anything off hand on linux that you need to request a license for
[23:11] <benofiniquity> Is there a different channel where I should be asking this question?  (I keep getting "psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 1" and "psmouse.c: bad data from KBC - timeout bad parity" errors in dmesg.  Both my keyboard and touchpad will not respond if there's no input for a couple of seconds.  After typing a key or moving around on the touchpad, things are fine as long as I keep moving or typing. After a c
[23:11] <apollo> nothing shows up when i click hardware drivers
[23:11] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, if you are going to help be helpful, no nonsense comments please
[23:12] <By_Your_Command> sorry ikonia
[23:12] <By_Your_Command> it was funny though
[23:12] <Dzelzsbetons> Do you have any hardware?
[23:12] <velociostrich> apollo: what hardware is it that's not working?
[23:12] <archboxman> apollo: its not supported drivers look into hardware compatiblity
[23:12] <ikonia> apollo: you may not need to use that tool. What are you having a problem with
[23:12] <coz_> benofiniquity,   if no one can answer here  try  the #linux  channel
[23:12] <By_Your_Command> you need to see if the drivers are supported apollo
[23:12] <benofiniquity> coz_: thanks
[23:12] <velociostrich> apollo: the Ubuntu wiki has tons of lists of supported hardware
[23:12] <apollo> sound, wireless internet, ethernet port... thats what i know of so far. i'm running it on an hp mini 311
[23:12] <coz_> apollo,  also check if anything is black listed  for the wireless
[23:13] <velociostrich> apollo: you might try ndiswrapper for your wireless
[23:13] <velociostrich> but you'd have to get your hands on a windows driver
[23:13] <apollo> what is ndiswrapper
[23:13] <velociostrich> apollo: it's a wrapper (I guess that's the right term) for windows wireless drivers
[23:13] <Alan502> Why is it that Ubuntu Firefox modiffications addon doesn't let me open new pop up windows?
[23:14] <m0n0> clrg: I just had to set COLUMNS=XX LINES=XX :)
[23:14] <velociostrich> apollo: basically, it lets you use windows drivers for wireless
[23:14] <velociostrich> apollo: btw, some vendors _do_ offer linux drivers
[23:15] <By_Your_Command> yeah or you can get a ton of drivers in the RPM package repo
[23:15] <ikonia> By_Your_Command: rpm's are not supported
[23:15] <velociostrich> By_Your_Command: which RPM repo is that? you mean like red hat?
[23:15] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, not for ubuntu.
[23:15] <velociostrich> ikonia: you can use alien, can't you?
[23:15] <ikonia> velociostrich: not safley
[23:15] <velociostrich> ikonia: ah, I've never tried it
[23:15] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, please dont recommend that here
[23:15] <wyczo> yes
[23:16] <chilicuil> I've just set up an Ubuntu mirror repository in my LAN and it's incredible useful for the desktop machines I can "download" and install the most heavy linux games in few seconds @_@, but I've a little issue with my laptop, when I'm in my house I wanna download as fast as the rest of the machines but it keeps getting the packages from Internet, I've added my local repository in the first line of sources.list but there's no change, so I've to remo
[23:16] <apollo> ok sooo... step one? i'm working seperatly on my desktop right now with windows 7. my laptop doesnt have internet because of the drivers
[23:16] <sultanodag> sera
[23:16] <bazhang> !it | sultanodag
[23:16] <velociostrich> apollo: first thing you have to do is find out specifically what hardware your laptop has
[23:16] <velociostrich> apollo: like specifically what chipsets
[23:16] <sultanodag> qualcuno saprebbe spiegarmi perchè non mi funge il comando Isusb?
[23:17] <velociostrich> apollo: then you can ask your friend google for some advice :)
[23:17] <bazhang> sultanodag, /join #ubuntu-it for Italian
[23:17] <coz_> apollo,  one t hing to do is open a terminal and type    sudo  dmidecode    that should give you a godd idea of the hardware etc  on the system
[23:17] <velociostrich> apollo: or the Ubuntu wiki, as I've said before -- there's a lot of specific information there
[23:18] <velociostrich> coz_: that's a cool command -- I've never heard of that before but I'm looking at the man page now
[23:18] <coz_> velociostrich,  its an extremely helpful utility
[23:18] <r0k3tm3n> i have a Powemac G3 B&W and a powerbook g4, i cant get them to boot from the PPC image of ubuntu. i tried "boot:,/install/yaboot" but it said that it couldnt read the file. has anyone successfully installed ubuntu on either of these machines? i have searched the forums and web, but to no avail.... and i tried the powepc channel, but there is hardly anyone there.
[23:18] <Berzerker> is it possibly to upgrade the kernel to .32?
[23:18] <fuba88> dos this thng work
[23:18] <fuba88> ohh it does
[23:19] <velociostrich> apollo: sudo dmidecode seems to print a lot of stuff, so you might need to pipe it into less
[23:19] <velociostrich> apollo like so: "sudo dmidecode | less"
[23:19] <velociostrich> apollo: then you can use the arrow keys / jk to scroll around
[23:19] <velociostrich> btw, you don't use quotes
[23:19] <velociostrich> and by "jk" I mean the keys, not the acronym
[23:20] <sweetandy> Yeah, who uses arrow keys anymore. hjkl all the way
[23:20] <sweetandy> or C-n and C-p (as on ctrl+)
[23:20] <alexfregoe> hi
[23:20] <velociostrich> after getting used to vim, I can't stand using WSIYWIG editors and all their mouse-clickery
[23:21] <fuba88> what are you guys talking about
[23:21] <alexfregoe> alex out
[23:21] <velociostrich> fuba88: a number of programs use the hjkl keys instead of the arrow keys
[23:21] <bazhang> fuba88, ubuntu support ; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:21] <velociostrich> fuba88: like vim, less, and man
[23:21] <alexfregoe> peace
[23:21] <velociostrich> that's not to say that you can't use the arrows keys, but hjkl is far faster
[23:22] <Sargun_Screen> Where do I get man pages for the stdlib?
[23:22] <Aijse> how do I get something like man IRC to get all possible commands?
[23:22] <tudon> aijse google
[23:22] <alexfregoe> hi google
[23:23] <Aijse> google whats that?
[23:23] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: ooh, I'm not sure if you can get man pages for them 'cept for online
[23:23] <Aijse> :P
[23:23] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: you can try looking for -doc packages in the repository
[23:23] <tudon> scroogle what ever for a irc command list or something
[23:23] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: I know Mac OS X has them; I read them online on linux
[23:24] <alexfregoe> why wont you listen
[23:25] <velociostrich> Sargun_Screen: libstdc++6-4.4-doc looks promising
[23:26] <velociostrich> I take that back; I installed it and tried "man malloc" but it didn't find a man page
[23:26] <velociostrich> gtg guys
[23:26] <ke1ha> just tried to check out branch ubuntu-docs/karmic and got a strange error:
[23:26] <ke1ha> *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/python: corrupted double-linked list: 0x0eb31cc0 ***
[23:27] <ke1ha> any ideas on fixing that one ?
[23:28] <ke1ha> Nevermind, I'm gonna go over to bugs and see what they say.
[23:29] <lsdluna> hi, im relatively new to ubuntu, is there anyone who could kindly and patiently enough to guide me through installing SVN? I have followed some guides atm but doesn't seem to be getting anywhere?
[23:29] <methods22> can i configure how long the notifications stick around on my desktop ?
[23:30] <r0k3tm3n> anyone here install ubuntu on a PowePC architecture computer?
[23:30] <LinuxReign> lsdluna, what steps did you already performed?
[23:31] <blakkheim> !anyone | r0k3tm3n
[23:31] <blakkheim> lsdluna: open a terminal, type "sudo aptitude install subversion" and press enter - that's it
[23:32] <nothingness`> hey guys
[23:32] <r0k3tm3n> ubottu: then how do u suggest to start a question? and this isnt my first time... be careful with assumptions....
[23:32] <nothingness`> anybody knows whether we can monitor the threads of a process using monit ?
[23:32] <nothingness`> if yes, then how ?
[23:32] <Aijse> @r0k3tm3n lol
[23:33] <r0k3tm3n> Aijse: yeah, lol... dumb moment
[23:33] <Alan502> !DVD
[23:33] <cromat> @KittyBoots great name
[23:33] <escood-beef> Hi all
[23:33] <clicker4721> sup
[23:33] <r0k3tm3n> i am having trouble installing Ubuntu on a powerpc, anyone done this successfully?
[23:34] <cherva> does new kernels count as a security update ?
[23:34] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: Did you download the PowerPC version?
[23:34] <ikonia> depends on the reason for the update
[23:34] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: yes, it wont boot
[23:35] <sponzor> how to add user that haves permissions only using ftp? (FTP USER)
[23:35] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: you sure all the downing and burning went right?
[23:35] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: i tried "boot:,/install/yaboot"  but it just gave me a error
[23:35] <gregor_>  yes, it wont boot => then its burned wrong i guesss
[23:35] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: about to try a different version
[23:36] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: you sure all the downing and burning went right?
[23:36] <Spanglish_7776> r0k may want to check the md5 hash before and after burning
[23:37] <nothingness`> anybody can tell me how it is possible to monitor the threads of a process on ubuntu using monit ?
[23:37] <clicker4721> Spanglish_7776, r0k3tm3n: Indeed, the md5 check is the best way to check the files' reliability.
[23:37] <clicker4721> nothingness: personally, I just use system monitor
[23:37] <r0k3tm3n> Spanglish_7776: mac OS X does verifies the disk after burning... no errors
[23:37] <clicker4721> *the system monitor
[23:38] <nothingness`> clicker4721, I mean I wanted a higher level of monitoring
[23:38] <clicker4721> nohtingness: specifically?
[23:38] <nothingness`> Like if a thread in a process goes down, I restart the entire process, automatically, clicker4721
[23:38] <Spanglish_7776> faulty cd-dvd rom? maybe r0k does it boot anything else?
[23:38] <clicker4721> nothingness: Wow, I didn't even know you could do that!
[23:39] <nothingness`> oh
[23:39] <nothingness`> ok thanks for the help anyway .. monit does something similar, if you're interested :)
[23:39] <lsdluna> LinuxReign: I believe SVN is installed, and so is apache, however when i use http://127.0.0.1/svn/ says object not found
[23:39] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: i cant fit the 9.10 powerpc image on one cd argggg
[23:39] <tad1> how does one disable X on startup in 9.10, so as to login from the terminal? Nothing I have tried has worked
[23:40] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: try either multi-session, dvd, or usb
[23:40] <Jordan_U> !boot | tad1
[23:40] <r0k3tm3n> tad1: Crtl + Alt + 1
[23:40] <tudon> tad1 you can get command line from recovery mode
[23:40] <BHoward> @nothingness im not sure but doesnt the sighup kill signal restart the process with the same PID?
[23:40] <tudon> does your x crash?
[23:40] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: usb on a mac g3?  thats tricky
[23:40] <Jordan_U> tad1, You want to disable gdm auto start
[23:40] <KittyBoots> I am having significant trouble keeping grub in order.  I am dual booting Ubuntu and Windows 7.  After I use Windows and restart, grub reports that it cant start the system.  Then I boot into a live Ubuntu distro, and restart and grub works. Windows is doing something wierd with my harddrive.  I don't know how to fix this.
[23:41] <CyL> Hi, I'd like some advice on about how to get ubuntu to work dual headed.... I tried playing with xrandr, xorg.conf, but no success...
[23:41] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: dvd then
[23:41] <BHoward> I came in at the tail end of the conversation so im just posting from what i saw
[23:41] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: on a mac g3?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, What is the exact error you get from grub?
[23:41] <Spanglish_7776> tad1 maybe sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[23:42] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: i hate typing your name, btw. anyway...perhaps i'm not familiar with the hardware you're working with. why wouldn't dvd work if cd would?
[23:42] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: does open-firmware support dvd?  and type r0 then tab, auto complete. ;-)
[23:42] <fat_rat> hi @ll
[23:42] <jazz> i now have 2 hdd on a ribbon and one serial ata hdd how can i make the hdd on the ribbon boot up over the serial ata hdd?
[23:43] <fat_rat> netsplit?
[23:43] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: It is working now, I can't recreate the error now.
[23:43] <phazer11> Hey I need help adding another partition to the grub.cfg file
[23:43] <tad1> Spanglish_7776, i've tried removing gdm using the update-rc.d command, but it still does not work to disable the autostart
[23:43] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Can remember any part of the error?
[23:44] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n: I'm using X-Chat, that just displays those people in a readout. Anyway, I've honestly never heard of this open-frameware you speak of.
[23:44] <Jordan_U> phazer11, "update-grub" should add it automatically
[23:44] <Jordan_U> phazer11, If you are using grub2
[23:44] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: something about not having a bootable medium
[23:44] <ejcweb> I've got the latest release of Ubuntu installed, and the fan seems to be running permanently - is this a known problem? Or is there an easy fix? Thanks.
[23:44] <phazer11> it won't add yeah it's Grub 1.97 so technically 2
[23:44] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, nm, r0k -> tab worked
[23:45] <Kismet> hey guys i get the message "enter password for default keyring to unlock" form account manager every time my laptop resumes from hibernation
[23:45] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Ok, that's an error from the BIOS, which means that you aren't even getting to grub for some reason
[23:45] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with  xmodmap?
[23:45] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: Open firmware is apples version of a BIOS on the PowePC architecture
[23:45] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: no it was after the post, it was a message from grub.
[23:45] <BHoward> @tad1 sudo vi +20 /etc/init/gdm.conf
[23:46] <BHoward> gdm starts on line 20
[23:46] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, Oh! Um...you should simply have a boot from disc option, right? That doesn't specify DVD or CD...
[23:46] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, GRUB never gives an error like that, and the BIOS looks for a drive to boot from after POST
[23:46] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: i assume that you havent tried this before...
[23:47] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Does your computer have some "media boot" or "recovery partition" feature?
[23:47] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, obviously. Hey, I'm going to get into a chat with one of my Mac friends and see if I can extract the info from him. I'll be back as soon as the quest is completed.
[23:47] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: I was a message from grub, but since I cant recreate it I will just wait until it happens again and come back here with it.
[23:47] <piero> is oursql python package in some official repository?
[23:48] <r0k3tm3n> clicker4721: thanks, PM me k?
[23:48] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: Yes there is a recovery partition.
[23:48] <luap> I'm having trouble with installing SIP. Can anybody help?
[23:48] <clicker4721> r0k3tm3n, You got it.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, Why are you so sure it was a message from grub? I have worked with the grub2 source and there is no error message like that.
[23:49] <Jordan_U> KittyBoots, The closest thing would probably be "device not found"
[23:49] <nothingness`> luap, what SIP ?
[23:49] <r0k3tm3n> has anyone installed ubuntu on a PowerPC architecture computer?
[23:50] <luap> I'm trying to install Sip 4.10 for using PyQt
[23:50] <KittyBoots> Jordan_U: I am trying to recall it from memory I didn't write it down and I am not sure exactly what it was, I just would not boot.
[23:50] <jazz> Jordan_U,  if you worked with grub on source then maybe you can help me aslo?
[23:50] <nothingness`> ah ok lu
[23:50] <nothingness`> luap, sudo apt-get install sip4 ?
[23:50] <nothingness`> doesn't work ?
[23:50] <Jordan_U> jazz, What problem are you having?
[23:50] <jazz> Jordan_U,  i got ubuntu on a 40hdd on a ribon but i keep getting the ubuntu on my sata hdd
[23:50] <Andy80> do you know if the Gwibber team as an official IRC channel?
[23:51] <nickie> hi, i need help with grub. I had vista installed on part1, seven on part2 and ubuntu on part3. I deleted part2 and expanded part1. now when I restarted my comp, I get grub error 17. what do I need to edit in my menu.lst to get grub to work?
[23:51] <jazz> Jordan_U,  there everyother  ubuntu is a memory check and finally my windows  what about my other ubuntu  hdd?
[23:52] <Jordan_U> nickie, Editing the menu.list won't help since grub isn't getting far enough to read it, you need to re-install grub.
[23:52] <Jordan_U> jazz, What version of Ubuntu?
[23:53] <jazz> both are 9.10
[23:54] <phazer11> AhH!!!!! well if I can't boot into Arch then I need more programs
[23:54] <jazz> Jordan_U,  short of unpluggin each drive to boot into the hdd i want...
[23:54] <phazer11> Like Encoding GUI
[23:54] <phazer11> for video
[23:54] <Jordan_U> jazz, Ok, boot the first entry ( since that is probably the one whose grub.cfg is being used ) and run "sudo update-grub". That should add the other Ubuntu install's entries.
[23:54] <nickie> when I reinstall grub, will it automatically find my vista partition? I cannot lose my windows, it has all my school stuff on it :(
[23:55] <KittyBoots> where can I go to learn about development of the Linux kernal?
[23:55] <tudon> phazer11 you mean something like handbrake
[23:56] <Jordan_U> jazz, You probably then want to boot into the other install and run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc", that will ask you some questions, one of which is what drive you want grub to be installed to, make sure *none* are selected.
[23:56] <rodrigo_> ola manuel
[23:57] <Jordan_U> jazz, Actually, that second part isn't needed if the two installations are on different drives
[23:57] <phazer11> Kinda
[23:57] <Jordan_U> jazz, Just make sure that each Ubuntu installation is set to install to it's own drive, since the grub-pc package re-installs grub to the drive you select whenever it is upgraded