[00:55] <mikunchan> hola hola  buenas noches a todos !
[00:56] <mikunchan> g'night to everyone it is then!
[01:57] <Jooder492> what would be causing my youtube videos to lagg?
[02:47] <MadRush> can anybody assist me with mv?
[02:58] <LordValiumSleeps> @lart LordValiumSleeps
[03:00] <skylineR390> hi
[03:10] <skylineR390> I have just finished installing xubuntu on and old machine, an intel celeron @ 1.2GHZ and 256MB  of RAM.  Applied all updates,  Installed some indispensable programs like WINE ,etc But im having some SERIOUS performance issues. major slow downs. Mem stays at 165~190 max so I dont think thats the issue. However the CPU spikes at 100%  by just opening the web browser or gimp or abiword. Videos on youtube are LITERALLY a slide show,
[03:10] <skylineR390> think is the problem???
[03:11] <skylineR390> I mean I picked Xubuntu because it is one of the lightest linux distros that I know, perfect for older hardware, right???
[03:13] <skylineR390> I don't know but even Xp was better than this, at least I could watch some videos without any hassles
[03:13] <skylineR390> does any one has a suggestion...?
[03:14] <skylineR390> ......
[03:14] <skylineR390> does any one has a suggestion...?
[03:16] <PlainFlavored> i don't think there's any operating system capable of handling flash like hat
[03:16] <PlainFlavored> even theoretically
[03:16] <PlainFlavored> on those specs
[05:30] <Balsaq> good morning native xubuntites...
[07:29] <gavin__> AGHH!
[07:29] <gavin__> I LOVE XFCE!
[07:30] <Balsaq> its way cool
[07:30] <gavin__> I know mann.
[07:30] <gavin__> I just installed it after having tried gnome, kde, and openbox.
[07:30] <gavin__> me and xfce just hit it off.
[07:30] <Balsaq> kde bites
[07:31] <gavin__> kde, just got off a kde install
[07:31] <Balsaq> gnome is ok
[07:31] <gavin__> i tried to like kde.
[07:31] <gavin__> but it was very buggy.
[07:31] <Balsaq> its just...weird
[07:31] <gavin__> I'm gonna make mine look like this: link coming.
[07:32] <gavin__> stillll coming.
[07:34] <gavin__> HERE:
[07:34] <gavin__> http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/9451/pardrdsml.jpg
[07:36] <gavin__> anyone here.
[07:36] <gavin__> ?
[07:36] <gavin__> i have insomnia.
[07:36] <gavin__> ughhh.
[07:37] <Balsaq> try some brandy
[07:42] <gavin__> some brandy?
[07:42] <gavin__> ive tried every prescription sleeping pill made..
[07:44] <Balsaq> ewwww
[07:44] <Balsaq> careful
[07:44] <Balsaq> try a warm glass of milk
[07:47] <gavin__> ive tried everything in the book kiddo.
[07:47] <gavin__> but right now.. im pretty tired.
[07:48] <gavin__> i took 2 sleeping pills
[07:48] <gavin__> and havent slept AT ALL in two days
[07:52] <Balsaq> try reading
[07:55] <gavin__> trieeddd.
[07:55] <gavin__> im probably gonna get off and lay down.
[07:55] <gavin__> no!
[07:55] <gavin__> i cant..
[07:55] <gavin__> i gotta configure my new xfce desktop
[07:59] <gavin__> brb
[07:59] <Balsaq> k
[12:56] <scar> hi, I just installed ubuntu-server 9.10 and used apt to install xubuntu-desktop. I am trying to configure my graphics card, but I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:57] <scar> I have a ATI Technologies Inc RV280
[12:58] <psycho_oreos> there wouldn't be xorg.conf, I think these days its all auto guessed
[13:12] <scar> strange that I actually miss it ^_^
[13:13] <scar> just updated kernel, time for reboot
[13:19] <scar> what do you know, it's working now :)
[13:30] <Balsaq> yeahthe updates fix it alot
[16:37] <Masterkick> Hello!
[16:39]  * Psilocybin_Elf nods.
[16:44] <etron_> can anyone help me with sound problems?
[16:44]  * eXpl0i7 hello
[16:44] <eXpl0i7> i have a question
[16:44] <eXpl0i7> how to kill some conection?
[16:44] <eXpl0i7> connection*
[16:47] <eXpl0i7> anybody?
[16:51] <charlie-tca> kill as in what ?
[16:52] <eXpl0i7> i have some connections in firestarter
[16:52] <eXpl0i7> if i scan some ip with nmap
[16:52] <eXpl0i7> always two connections stays in firestarter
[16:53] <eXpl0i7> allways*
[16:53] <charlie-tca> Not familiar with firestarter. Is that a firewall builder?
[16:53] <eXpl0i7> no
[16:53] <eXpl0i7> this is a GUI
[16:53] <eXpl0i7> show me active connections
[16:54] <charlie-tca> What are the connections?
[16:55] <charlie-tca> Do you have any other applications open?
[16:55] <eXpl0i7> no
[16:55] <eXpl0i7> after nmap scaning
[16:55] <eXpl0i7> allways have two connections
[16:55] <eXpl0i7> from scaned ip
[16:56] <charlie-tca> If you are online at all, you will have connections. To use a browser, email, irc, etc requires connections
[16:56] <eXpl0i7> omg
[16:57] <eXpl0i7> some command to kill connection?
[16:57] <eXpl0i7> i tryed sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[16:57] <eXpl0i7> but nothing happen
[16:57] <eXpl0i7> it same
[16:58] <charlie-tca> try sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop
[16:58] <eXpl0i7> after rebooting connections are gone
[16:58] <charlie-tca> that should kill networking completely
[16:58] <eXpl0i7> ok
[16:58] <charlie-tca> or click the network manager icon on the panel, and close the connection there
[16:59] <etron_> can anyone help me with a sound problem?
[17:00] <charlie-tca> etron_: you could try #ubuntu-audio-help , they know a lot about sound issues.
[17:00] <eXpl0i7> charlie-tca: it's not work
[17:00] <charlie-tca> but have patience. Everyone is a volunteer, and might be busy at the moment, too
[17:00] <etron_> ok thx i'll try that
[17:01] <eXpl0i7> only if i reboot pc
[17:01] <charlie-tca> what are the connections?
[17:01] <eXpl0i7> on port 1
[17:01] <eXpl0i7> and
[17:01] <charlie-tca> Have you turned off update-manager?
[17:01] <eXpl0i7> tcpmux
[17:02] <eXpl0i7> yea
[17:02] <eXpl0i7> this is only after nmap scan
[17:02] <charlie-tca> port 1 is tcpmux
[17:02] <eXpl0i7> if i scan some ip range
[17:02] <eXpl0i7> firestarter kills my cpu
[17:02] <charlie-tca> it is also called 'TCP port service multiplexer'
[17:03] <charlie-tca> maybe google for that?
[17:03] <eXpl0i7> i tryed
[17:03] <eXpl0i7> :\
[17:04] <eXpl0i7> i go to reboot
[17:04] <eXpl0i7> xD
[17:08] <charlie-tca> eXpl0i7: are you using nmap to find ports on the machine running nmap?
[17:09] <eXpl0i7> yea
[17:09] <eXpl0i7> i'm use nmap for port scaning
[17:09] <eXpl0i7> and os detection
[17:09] <eXpl0i7> :)
[17:09] <eXpl0i7> pentesting
[17:09] <eXpl0i7> :D
[17:09] <charlie-tca> That's why. The nmap docs tell you it will give wrong readings, since it has to go outside the network to look for ports open to the outside
[17:10] <eXpl0i7> maybe
[17:11] <eXpl0i7> sorry my english is bad....
[17:13] <charlie-tca> The documentation in man nmap tells how to use it and when it will work correctly
[17:13] <eXpl0i7> lol
[17:14] <eXpl0i7> i know how to use nmap
[17:14] <charlie-tca> Okay, then you already knew it does not recommend using it to check for ports on the system it is run on.
[17:15] <eXpl0i7> why?
[17:15] <eXpl0i7> :)
[17:15] <charlie-tca> you should ask the developers of nmap that.
[17:15] <eXpl0i7> lol
[17:16] <eXpl0i7> maybe some can discover me
[17:16] <eXpl0i7> ex
[17:18] <eXpl0i7> -T2....hard for firewall to discover
[17:18] <eXpl0i7> xD
[17:18] <eXpl0i7> or -T1
[17:18] <eXpl0i7> but so slowly
[17:20]  * Psilocybin_Elf stretches his arms & yawns.
[18:31] <skylineR390> hello!!
[18:32] <skylineR390> anybody here??
[18:33] <skylineR390> or should I move to the ubuntu chat
[18:34] <skylineR390> ...
[18:42] <exs> hi
[18:42] <exs> ivh installed ubuntu, but i want try xfce4 too. how to install the packages needed for that issue?
[19:05] <charlie-tca> skylineR390: did you have a question?
[19:16] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: yes sir
[19:16] <charlie-tca> !question
[19:16] <skylineR390> LOW performance
[19:17] <skylineR390> on a n old
[19:17] <skylineR390> on an old  1.2GHZ 256 MB machine
[19:17] <charlie-tca> everybody here is a volunteer, they will try to answer questions if you ask them and have patience. Many are working, and trying to help here at the same time.
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Ask all on one line, so it is easier to read and follow the question
[19:18] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: Im talking about extremely low performance, like watching youtube is a slideshow, literally
[19:18] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: k im sorry
[19:18] <charlie-tca> Ram is too low. Increasing it will allow you to have better performance from Xubuntu
[19:19] <charlie-tca> We can't raise the performance, as a distribution, when the hardware is not capable
[19:19] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: I know yet thats why I tried xubuntu, and it has the corrct minum specs according to the wikki
[19:19] <charlie-tca> Minimum specs, not great performance specs
[19:20] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: I don't think is the ram thou . Ram stay at 160~180 MB under load. My problem is the CPU usage. It spikes to high 80s by just opening a text processor...
[19:21] <charlie-tca> My 400MHz cpu is slow with 256MB ram, increasing it 640 gives good performance out of it
[19:23] <skylineR390> charlie-tca:  lol I dont think I can find mem for that machine anymore,  I think it uses the old 168 pin dimms
[19:23] <charlie-tca> Also, my 1.4GHz cpu was slow with 256MB, but increasing it to 1GB of ram cured that completely
[19:23] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: realy?
[19:23] <skylineR390> really*
[19:23] <genii> Pretty much any speed CPU with 256MB is gonna suck
[19:24] <charlie-tca> Yes, I run tests daily
[19:25] <charlie-tca> Check the numbers on the ram, and try TigerDirect or Egghead
[19:25] <charlie-tca> or craigslist or ebay, I think
[19:27] <skylineR390> charlie-tca:  I guess, you are right. A low mem system pages a lot back and forward and that slow things quite a bit, but I'm not talking about that kind of slowness. thats natural and I expect it. Im talking about with 160MB of mem usage out of 256 opening abiword spikes my CPU to high 80s..... wtf. when doing some web browsing it stays at 100% all the time....
[19:28] <Psilocybin_Elf> 'Sup peeps? :-)
[19:28] <skylineR390> charlie-tca: is like the kernel is not optimized for my cpu, or theres some kind of musconfiguration or something, I don't know
[19:29] <skylineR390> sup man
[19:33] <charlie-tca> I don't know. I just know if you increased ram, the performance will go up
[19:33] <charlie-tca> oh, he's gone
[19:33] <rr72> hey ya charlie-tca
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Hello, rr72
[19:34] <charlie-tca> New installs from fridays image have a gdm background. Do you?
[19:35] <rr72> i saw in devel chan
[19:35] <rr72> *your comment
[19:35] <rr72> uhm i have splash turned off would that matter?
[19:36] <charlie-tca> heh, got to raise a little ruckus once in a while.
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Splash should not affect the gdm login background
[19:36] <charlie-tca> maybe
[19:36] <charlie-tca> I don't know with plymouth, maybe that does matter now.
[19:36] <rr72> it's the old defauly background yes?
[19:37] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:37] <rr72> then it's there lol
[19:37] <rr72> w/o plymouth installed
[19:37] <charlie-tca> I get a pretty black screen of nothing here
[19:37] <rr72> you had that issue of you having to resert gdm yes?
[19:38] <charlie-tca> yes, everytime
[19:38] <rr72> so that has something to do with it maybe?
[19:38]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[19:38] <rr72> hey
[19:38] <charlie-tca> could be, I guess. They tell me removing plymouth fixes that, too
[19:38] <charlie-tca> Hello, Psilocybin_Elf
[19:39] <Psilocybin_Elf> How's it goin' charlie-tca?
[19:39] <charlie-tca> Great!
[19:40] <Psilocybin_Elf> Cool cool :-D
[19:40]  * Psilocybin_Elf grins.
[19:41] <rr72> afk a bit
[20:56] <Vingian> i recently installed xubuntu on my dell laptop and i tried to get the framebuffer to work in the console mode (tty) but i can't seem to get it to work
[20:56] <Vingian> on another machine - it just works out of the box....
[20:57] <Vingian> the only real difference is that on the one where it works - i have an intel graphics card and on the other its nvidia...
[20:57] <Vingian> is that a correct assumption?
[20:57] <charlie-tca> sure
[20:58] <charlie-tca> nvidia and intel are different graphics, and don't work the same. I use a framebuffer on this one, but it took about two days to make it work.
[20:58] <Vingian> so then what do i need to do to get it to work on the nvidia machine?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> About two days of fighting with it, maybe 20 hours time
[20:59] <Vingian> i am past that :)
[20:59] <Vingian> i'd appreciate your cheat code if you'd be kind enough to share ;)
[21:00] <charlie-tca> I can give you the list of docs I used, there are five coming up: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ConsoleFramebuffer
[21:01] <charlie-tca> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man1/fbset.1.html
[21:01] <charlie-tca> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man4/fbdev.4.html
[21:01] <Vingian> no. 1 didn't work...
[21:01] <charlie-tca> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/en/man5/fb.modes.5.html
[21:01] <charlie-tca> http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3863566/Tweaking--Linux-Library-Settings-Within-Readline.htm
[21:02] <Vingian> the gfxterm is set to a valid resolution
[21:02] <Vingian> grub screen is coming up correctly
[21:02] <charlie-tca> None of it works by itself. I had to go back and forth through them and try almost everything suggested in all of them
[21:02] <Vingian> the gfxpayload setting of keep completely destroys the consoles - i get nothing but a blinking cursor
[21:03] <Vingian> and the gfxpayload of my resolution has no effect afaict
[21:03] <charlie-tca> grub and terminal need to be set for the same resolution to get it to work. I now have both giving me 1680x1050 on this 21 inch lcd
[21:04] <charlie-tca> The text is tiny, maybe 6pt, but that is the only resolution it worked at
[21:04] <Vingian> mine is 1280x800
[21:04] <Vingian> and i'd be thankful to get that
[21:04] <Vingian> hwinfo reports it as a valid resolution
[21:05] <Vingian> so i know that can't be the problem - after all - grub displays it fine
[21:05] <charlie-tca> I had to use both the vga= and set GRUB_GFXMODE= in grub
[21:06] <charlie-tca> also, got to set modprobe up in two or three places, as those docs say to.
[21:06] <charlie-tca> On the other hand, my 19" monitor which runs 1400x900 won't give me better than 1024x768 in the framebuffers
[21:08] <charlie-tca> You did un-blacklist vga16fb, right?
[21:08] <charlie-tca> It is the only framebuffer that works for Xubuntu 9.10 for me
[21:10] <charlie-tca> It is a very involved procedure, that I don't know that I can duplicate. After upgrading one system to karmic, I haven't been able to get it to work there.
[21:16] <Vingian> i unblacklisted vesafb and nvidia - didn't do the vga16fb
[21:18] <Vingian> the vga= always spits out that its deprecated and gfxpayload should be used
[21:18] <charlie-tca> I know
[21:19] <charlie-tca> but without it, it don't work
[21:20] <charlie-tca> I don't think the nvidia one works, it wouldn't for me, anyway. I have vesafb vga16fb only here. The nvidiafb is still blacklisted
[21:21] <charlie-tca> And I only added vga16fb to /etc/modules
[21:22] <cPt> is there any wizard for importing photos from a digital camera? my mother gets confused by the browsing feature
[21:22] <charlie-tca> I just ignore the deprecated / error messages now, since I got the resolution to work. I know the cause of the error, so it is okay.
[21:24] <charlie-tca> and I needed the gfxpayload lines too, along with the vga=
[21:24] <charlie-tca> Like I said, about 20 hours of trying different things, just to get an error message at every boot. But it did finally work.
[21:35]  * Vingian thinks to hell with all this...
[22:48] <knome> cPt, i think at least gphoto handled that
[22:48] <cPt> ill check it out, thanks :)
[22:48] <knome> ...or was it gthumb
[22:48] <knome> cPt, see settings -> removable dries and media
[22:49] <knome> cPt, tab "cameras"
[22:49] <cPt> cant do it right now, but ill check it out later
[22:49] <cPt> thanks
[22:49] <knome> i use 'gthumb --import-photos' as command ran when plugging in a acm
[22:49] <knome> *cam
[23:02] <charlie-tca> Hello, knome
[23:02] <knome> hey charlie-tca
[23:02] <knome> how are you?
[23:03] <charlie-tca> Great! just trying to stir the pot, I guess. and you?
[23:03] <knome> well, a bit sick so i think i'm not the one stirring the pot
[23:03] <charlie-tca> 80 days to Xubuntu 10.04. How is the graphics coming?
[23:04] <knome> should go to warm bed and sleep in tomorrow
[23:04] <knome> we have a new version of the albatross theme in the shimmer HG repo
[23:04] <charlie-tca> That would be a good idea for you. You have to stay healthy at this point.
[23:05] <knome> not much else. most of my time this year has gone to other things, unfortunately
[23:05] <knome> the albatross theme is planned to be released in march 1st
[23:06] <knome> so xubuntu can pick it up then
[23:06] <charlie-tca> Great! We have to wait that many more days? ;-)
[23:06] <knome> hehe
[23:07] <knome> you can also pull the theme from our repo; http://shimmerproject.org/hg/albatross (requires new murrine-engine though)
[23:07] <knome> i don't think that's packaged in ubuntu (yet)
[23:07] <knome> well, basically: http://shimmerproject.org/hg/albatross?f=d54f6b3c73ac;file=gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[23:08] <charlie-tca> I haven't seen a murrine error since last week, but I don't have new images to try, either.
[23:08] <knome> i did an inspirational wallpaper the other day (main color not blue), and i'm looking forward to do something bit different than previously really soon.
[23:09] <knome> maybe the result will get included in albatross
[23:09] <charlie-tca> I might try it tomorrow, supposed to have the new images then.
[23:09] <knome> feel free to
[23:10] <charlie-tca> I will let you know what happens.
[23:10] <knome> albatross is now tracking bugs in LP as you know - feel free to report any
[23:10] <knome> (including too low contrast)
[23:10] <charlie-tca> That isn't fixed yet?
[23:11] <knome> the new theme is completely rewritten by dashua and i have only seen screenshots of it so far
[23:12] <charlie-tca> Well, get some rest, and get better! we need you
[23:12] <knome> yeah
[23:12] <knome> i know
[23:13] <knome> gonna do that right now
[23:13] <knome> have a nice evening yourself
[23:13] <knome> see you later
[23:13] <knome> o/
[23:13] <charlie-tca> I will try. See you later...
[23:27] <HUBOZORD> anyone have idea whats going on ?:) http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2603/zrzutekranu1w.png