[00:03] <Flimm> Are expired bugs still considered open?
[00:04] <wgrant> Flimm: Bugs are not currently expired.
[00:05] <Flimm> wgrant: huh? What happens to bugs that have been marked "Incomplete" for a considerable time?
[00:05] <wgrant> Flimm: They used to be expired after 60 days, but that feature is currently disabled due to complaints.
[00:08] <Flimm> wgrant: so why are there still messages like "this bug has been for expiration 221 days ago"? And what am I supposed to do with them? (In a project I manage)
[00:08] <wgrant> Flimm: I do not know.
[00:09] <persia> Flimm: That's a side effect of the expiration logic still being there.  Depending on your project policies, you may wish to either ignore it, or take some action at some specific time.
[00:13] <Flimm> I found the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/333521
[00:14] <Flimm> I guess I'll mark those old bugs as invalid myself. Sigh.
[00:14] <Flimm> Thanks.
[00:59] <thumper> seg|ars: damn, didn't notice your response as I rely on my irc client to beep and flash at me
[00:59] <thumper> seg|ars: one of the benefits of launchpad merge proposals is the active reviews page
[00:59] <thumper> seg|ars: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+activereviews is an example
[01:00] <thumper> seg|ars: it gives project owners an easy way to see what has been proposed and where its at in the review process
[01:00] <seg|ars> yeah
[01:01] <thumper> seg|ars: The page has a number of sections: Approved proposals, Reviews I have to do, Reviews I can do (where a team you are in has been asked to review), Reviews I'm waiting on (my work), Reviews I am doing, and other
[01:01] <thumper> seg|ars: I just wanted to make sure you were aware of it :)
[01:01] <seg|ars> I use it all the time. :-)
[01:01] <thumper> awesome
[01:02] <thumper> seg|ars: heh, didn't recognize the nick
[01:02] <thumper> seg|ars: of course you look at gwibber :)
[01:02] <seg|ars> haha
[01:02] <seg|ars> yep
[01:02] <thumper> seg|ars: speaking of which, I've had trouble getting it running on kde
[01:03] <seg|ars> which version are you using?
[01:03] <seg|ars> the 2.0 branch had a bunch of weird problems on kde with things like icons
[01:03] <seg|ars> I haven't actually tried the latest trunk on kde yet
[01:03] <thumper> I'm not sure actually
[01:03] <seg|ars> are you using the daily ppa?
[01:04] <thumper> I used to, but I think it was disabled when I moved to karmic
[01:04] <seg|ars> ah, so you are using the version from universe? That one is super bad. :-)
[01:04] <thumper> :)
[01:04] <thumper> what is the daily ppa?
[01:04] <thumper> for add-apt-repository
[01:05] <thumper> seg|ars: I moved to Choqok when gwibber didn't work, but it isn't as nice
[01:05] <seg|ars> ppa:gwibber-daily/ppa
[01:06] <seg|ars> I'm planning to do a Qt frontend for Gwibber eventually
[01:07] <thumper> nic
[01:07] <thumper> e
[01:07] <thumper> seg|ars: one thing that choqok does is not have a tweet/dent removed until you've marked it read
[01:07] <thumper> seg|ars: which I find nice first thing in the morning
[01:08] <thumper> has gwibber changed in that respect?
[01:08] <seg|ars> no, we still don't do that yet
[01:08] <seg|ars> having more than roughly 100 messages in the stream gets too heavy
[01:08] <thumper> :(
[01:08] <seg|ars> I'm planning to make a log reader at some point so that you can easily go back and see older messages
[01:08] <thumper> starting gwibber wants to start the gnome keyring
[01:08] <seg|ars> with the daily build?
[01:08] <seg|ars> that would be desktopcouch that wants the gnome keyring
[01:08] <thumper> yeah
[01:09] <seg|ars> I hadn't thought about that
[01:09]  * thumper shrugs
[01:09] <thumper> just made a new one
[01:09] <thumper> hmm... still no gwibber window
[01:09]  * thumper tries again
[01:10] <seg|ars> do you see any errors at stdout when you do it from the command line?
[01:11] <thumper> seg|ars: nice facebook sign-up connecty bits
[01:11] <thumper> seg|ars: second time it started with the add account
[01:12] <thumper> seg|ars: it is working now
[01:12] <seg|ars> nice!
[01:17] <thumper> seg|ars: do you have any other questions for your article?
[01:18] <seg|ars> I think that covers it
[01:18] <seg|ars> I was just curious about what features of launchpad the developers like the most
[01:18] <seg|ars> it adds a dimension to the story that I think the readers will appreciate
[01:19] <mwhudson> i really really should get around to using gwibber at some point...
[01:19] <thumper> let me ping someone
[01:19] <thumper> damn, he isn't online
[01:20] <thumper> seg|ars: I actually like the reviewing by email bit a lot
[01:20] <thumper> seg|ars: many places have code reviews, but with LP I can do it all over email
[01:24] <spm> *** FYI. ppa upload service is about to be momentarily interrupted for a code update ***
[01:26] <spm> ppa uploads should be alive again
[01:26] <crimsun> thanks
[01:26] <spm> and now for codehost... :-)
[01:27] <spm> *** FYI. bzr/codehost service is about to be momentarily interrupted for a code update ***
[01:27] <mwhudson> spm: nothing actually needs to be restarted for that
[01:27] <mwhudson> but it might be easier/more consistent to do it that way i guess
[01:27] <spm> mwhudson: yeah? that sounds... unwise.
[01:27] <crimsun> in fact, thanks for all the work that you guys/gals do on LP
[01:27] <mwhudson> spm: the bug is in the bzr lp-serve processes, they get started for each connection
[01:27] <mwhudson> spm: but i can see how this might not appeal to the inner sysadmin :-)
[01:27] <spm> mwhudson: um. yes. :-)
[01:28] <idnar> heh
[01:29] <mwhudson> we should be able to do more transparent upgrades anyway, but....
[01:30] <spm> mwhudson: restarted; can you do a quick verify?
[01:30] <spm> oh yuk. the old rewriters are left behind.
[01:30] <mwhudson> woo
[01:31] <spm> hmm, maybenot; just slow to die; they were gone by the time my kill hit
[01:31] <mwhudson> it seems to be working
[01:31] <mwhudson> i'm not actually 100% sure how to verify the fix works
[01:31] <spm> ah huh :-)
[01:32] <spm> ahh this was that really funky error we saw. yeah....
[01:35]  * spm wonders how wise it would be to go to lunch *immediately* after doing two CP's.....
[01:35] <mwhudson> spm: the fix seems to have worked
[01:36] <spm> excellent
[01:36] <mwhudson> spm: i'm sure fixing things over ssh on your phone is heaps of fun!!
[01:36] <spm> seeing if the ppa one worked.... no. wooo.
[01:37] <spm> ARGH. wrong revno.
[01:44] <thumper> spm: ?
[01:44] <spm> thumper: for the ppa update
[01:44] <thumper> spm: do I need to care?
[01:44] <spm> nope
[01:45] <thumper> spm: my pulling of branches got interrupted by your rollout
[01:45] <thumper> :)
[01:45] <poolie> is this a full rollout or just a single change to codehosting?
[01:45] <spm> poolie: cherry pick; to codehosting; and one to ppa - which was err the wrong one.
[01:46] <thumper> spm: which codehosting cherry pick?
[01:47] <spm> thumper: per LPS, and for bug 513432
[01:47] <thumper> spm: ah, cool
[01:47] <thumper> spm: should mark as fix released then
[01:47] <spm> thumper: heh, I guess :-)
[01:48] <poolie> so the next full rollout is about 3 weeks away?
[01:49] <thumper> poolie: yes
[01:56] <nhandler> Is there a way to view only indirrect members of an LP team?
[02:02] <thumper> nhandler: I don't think so
[02:03] <nhandler> thumper: Dan, thanks.
[02:48] <micahg> I think we have another spammer
[02:49] <micahg> or random acting individual
[02:49] <thumper> seg|ars: where does gwibber chat live?
[02:52] <Ippwn3d> Hello, I have recently been given administrator priveledges to a team, but I cannot for some reason commit successfully to the team's branch.  I can  push / commit all I want to any personal branches I create however.  Any ideas?
[02:53] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: which team and which branch?
[02:53] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: note that it's possible (but a bit weird, obviously) to be an admin for a team but not a member
[02:54] <Ippwn3d> MightyBox Core Team
[02:54] <Ippwn3d> the branch is https://code.launchpad.net/~mb-team/mb/trunk
[02:54] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: some links would be much more useful :-)
[02:54] <mwhudson> ah, thanks
[02:55] <Ippwn3d> how would I check for the starnge admin, but not member condition?
[02:55] <Ippwn3d> thank you in advance for your help by the way.
[02:55] <seg|ars> thumper: chat?
[02:56] <thumper> seg|ars: like irc questions and the like
[02:56] <seg|ars> oh
[02:56] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: i was confused, i meant owner but not member
[02:56] <seg|ars> thumper: irc.arstechnica.com #gwibber
[02:56] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: what's your launchpad id?
[02:56] <Ippwn3d> dominick-odierno
[02:58] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: what error do you get when you try to commit to the team's branch?
[02:59] <Ippwn3d> give me a minute to find the exact verbiage again, but it is something about not being able to lock the directory, mkdir() is not supported
[02:59] <thumper> access over read only transport
[02:59] <Ippwn3d> I followed the steps in the help guides to no avail unfortunately
[03:00] <thumper> Ippwn3d: what comman are you using *exactly* ?
[03:01] <mwhudson> Ippwn3d: ah, you need to access the branch over a transport that supports writing
[03:01] <mwhudson> i.e. bzr+ssh
[03:02] <Ippwn3d> after "bzr launchpad <username>"
[03:02] <Ippwn3d> do I need to do something else?  I have my public key listed in launchpad
[03:02] <mwhudson> if you got the branch before you did that though
[03:13] <Ippwn3d> there isn't a resolve all command is there?
[03:15] <abentley> Ippwn3d, yes there is.  It is "resolve --all".  But it will not resolve all the changes for you.  It indicates that you have resolved all the conflicts.
[03:15] <Ippwn3d> correct, I manually went through every file and sorted the conflicts
[03:16] <abentley> Ippwn3d, you can also just run "resolve", and it will auto-detect which conflicts have been resolved.
[03:16] <Ippwn3d> aha!!  I also apparantly had to rebind, but I think it worked
[03:18] <Ippwn3d> it spit out a bunch of files that got modified,  but it hasn't given me a prompt back yet, it must still be working...
[03:22] <Ippwn3d> hmm, I think it might be stuck.
[03:22] <Ippwn3d> Should I close the window and try to recommit or let it sit for a while longer?
[03:25] <Ippwn3d> ah crap, apparantly I locked it on myself
[03:34] <Ippwn3d> holy moses it commited!  grazie mille a tutti!
[04:13] <RAOF> Interesting.  Robert Ancell hit the “upgrade” button on lp:launchpad-integration, but it still seems to be Packs 5 rather than rich-root.
[04:17] <thumper> RAOF: hi
[04:17] <thumper> RAOF: how long ago?
[04:17] <nhandler> I just noticed ~contributor-agreement-canonical . Can someone add me to that team? I should have a signed agreement on file (I have had branches merged)
[04:20] <RAOF> thumper: About 30 minutes ago.
[04:21] <thumper> RAOF: my bet is that it failed due to it being stacked on another branch which hasn't been upgraded
[04:21] <thumper> I could check the logs, but that is my bet
[04:23] <RAOF> Hm.  It's now listed as stacked on ~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu, but I'm fairly sure it wasn't before.
[04:24] <thumper> I bet it was
[04:25] <RAOF> Mayhap.
[04:25] <thumper> RAOF: I'd say to reconfigure --unstacked but I think that is mildly broken
[04:25] <RAOF> I don't have commit rights there anyway.
[04:26] <idnar> hmm, what happens if I hit the "upgrade" button on a branch that has other branches stacked on it?
[04:27] <thumper> idnar: the branch is upgraded, but all those that are stacked on it are broken until they are upgraded similarly
[04:27] <thumper> idnar: at least in theory
[04:28] <thumper> idnar: I've not done it myself, but I'm told it works
[04:28] <idnar> okay, guess I don't want to do that then
[04:28] <thumper> idnar: you probably do at some stage
[04:29] <idnar> I don't want to break all the old/merged branches, and upgrading all of those sounds like too much work
[04:29] <wgrant> It woul dbe really nice if there was a way to upgrade a project.
[04:29] <idnar> or does LP handle that somehow?
[04:29] <wgrant> At the moment it's very difficult...
[04:29] <thumper> wgrant: yes I agree
[04:30] <thumper> perhaps upgrading a branch should also upgrade all those stacked on it
[04:30] <idnar> I guess the problem is that lots of users / teams can have branches of a project, which you don't necessarily have control over
[04:30] <wgrant> thumper: Probably.
[04:30] <wgrant> thumper: At the moment it's just about impossible.
[04:30]  * thumper nods
[04:31] <wgrant> The rich-root and CHK migration sucks badly already. LP should be able to take away much of the pain.
[04:31] <thumper> agreed, it should...
[04:32] <RAOF> wgrant: It's far and away the largest source of friction I've encountered in using bzr, yes.
[04:33] <lifeless> nhandler: please mail the project lead for a project who has merged your branches
[04:33] <lifeless> nhandler: IRC request is likely to be dropped, ETOOHARD
[04:34] <idnar> I wish I could move all of my projects to 2a alreadyf
[04:34] <idnar> *already
[04:34] <wgrant> I should probably be in that team too.
[04:40] <nhandler> lifeless: Alright, I sent a message to flacoste about it
[04:42] <lifeless> great one, thanks
[05:56] <robert_ancell> trying to upgrade lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu, it says it's upgrading but doesn't seem to change format.  any ideas?
[05:59] <crimsun> OOPS-1502EC135
[06:01] <spm> hrm. 17sec sql query/timeout.
[06:02] <spm> ... which shouldnt have. crimsum, try again?
[06:03] <crimsun> spm: did, and it was fine the second time.
[06:03] <crimsun> I suppose this is due to edge's lower timeout?
[06:04] <spm> hrm. that's a new one on me; I was under the impression that edge and prod have the same 20sec total timeuot
[06:04] <crimsun> it happened once earlier in the past couple hours
[06:04] <crimsun> spm: I could be mistaken; I vaguely (mis?)remember being informed that edge has a faster timeout.
[06:06] <spm> in. ter. est.ing. the explain plan on both staging and prod seems identical (if very complex, 38 lines of; whee) on prod was fast - it's been run recently; on staging, I'd estimate 10+ seconds. maybe longer.
[06:07] <robert_ancell> Can anyone help with a bzr upgrade ^
[06:09] <spm> robert_ancell: hrm, also interesting. 2010-02-10 06:00:16 ERROR   Not a branch: "/~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu/". (~ 10 mins ago)
[06:11] <robert_ancell> spm, weird, did something happen when we moved the branch to lp:~ubuntu-desktop/launchpad-integration/ubuntu?  (I only want to upgrade the former so I can upgrade the later so I can merge in a change from a new branch)
[06:14] <spm> robert_ancell: in what way was it moved? I presume you mean branch/push to new location?
[06:16] <robert_ancell> spm, I'm not sure, I think mvo did it
[06:18] <spm> robert_ancell: I can't help but think this is some sort of stacking/bzr-funky-tricks issue. just havng a brain implosion on it tho...
[06:20] <robert_ancell> spm, ok, thanks for looking
[06:21] <spm> sorry - haven't stopped looking - just getting pulled in about 3 diff directions at once :-)
[06:24] <spm> robert_ancell: hrmness. it already has a backup.bzr folder. I wonder if that's causing issues... is old too. from April last year.
[06:24] <wgrant> Which branch?
[06:25] <spm> lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu
[06:26] <wgrant> That generated that odd 'Not a branch' above which looks very stackish?
[06:26] <spm> yeah
[06:26] <wgrant> Huh.
[06:27] <spm> not helped by the oops folder being incorrect (now fixed)
[06:28] <spm> just clicked on upgrade again, see if we get a better error
[06:29] <spm> 30 secs....
[06:30] <spm> OOPS-1502UBJ1, 2010-02-10 06:30:16 ERROR   File exists: u'/tmp/tmpz-cgoq/backup.bzr/': [Errno 17] File exists: '/tmp/tmpz-cgoq/backup.bzr/'
[06:31] <spm> mv backup.bzr backup.bzr.old; try again....
[06:31] <wgrant> That's a bit less insane.
[06:32] <spm> ARGH. 2010-02-10 06:32:26 ERROR   Permission denied: "Cannot create 'backup.bzr.old'. Only Bazaar branches are allowed."
[06:34] <spm> robert_ancell: upgraded. finally.
[06:35] <spm> ... I hope. the log may be lying
[06:35] <spm> branch: Branch format 7
[06:35] <RAOF> Now you'll probably need to do the same for lp:~ubuntu-desktop/launchpad-integration/ubuntu, since that needs upgrading too.
[06:36] <spm> *cough* *coug* sudden severe illness... dying .... callling ambulance.........
[06:36] <RAOF> :)
[06:36] <spm> I wasn't convincing there was I?
[06:36] <RAOF> Most people don't type while dying!
[06:37] <spm> RAOF: that one already is branch 7?
[06:37] <spm> or am I looking at the wrong thing again...
[06:37] <spm> yes. nm.
[06:37] <RAOF> Repository format: packs 5 (does not support rich root)
[06:37] <wgrant> Branch format != repository format
[06:38] <spm> yeah, I always get that confused.
[06:38] <robert_ancell> I'm getting repo format "development.." now
[06:38] <robert_ancell> ok, trying to upgrade other branch now...
[06:38] <wgrant> LP labels it incorrectly as development, right.
[06:39] <spm> there's no backup.bzr dir on this one, so it should "just work"
[06:40] <spm> kerboom. OOPS-1502UBJ3 2010-02-10 06:40:13 ERROR   Not a branch: "/~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu/"
[06:41] <wgrant> Yeah, that's a stacking mapping fail.
[06:43] <robert_ancell> :(
[06:45] <RAOF> :!
[06:48] <spm> lifeless: http://paste.ubuntu.com/372997/ any thoughts on fixing? is from a failed lp branch upgrade request.
[06:50] <lifeless> spm: roll it back
[06:51] <spm> oki
[06:51] <lifeless> spm: I don't know how the lp upgrade stuff works, I do know it works *elsewhere* and then syncs in some fashiopn
[06:51] <lifeless> so my bzr internal knowledge is useless
[06:51]  * spm nods
[06:51] <lifeless> WAG: upgrade failed, then it synced the broken state.
[06:53] <spm> hmm. in this case, the upgrade was on the (alleged) stacked upon branch; I've rolled that back - but appears the issue remains.
[06:54] <spm> oh, no; caching I suspect; is good now.
[06:54] <spm> robert_ancell: you *should* be back to square 1 again.
[06:56] <robert_ancell> spm, ok
[07:12] <robert_ancell> spm, gtg, should I raise a ticket about this?
[07:12] <lifeless> yes
[07:12] <robert_ancell> against lp?
[07:12] <spm> yes; bug against lp-bazaar integration
[07:12] <spm> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+filebug
[07:12] <spm> lp-code, that'd be
[07:12] <robert_ancell> lifeless, thanks
[07:15] <robert_ancell> LP #519666
[07:15] <spm> ta, I'll add some notes from what I did
[07:16] <robert_ancell> gtg, see you guys later
[07:16] <spm> g;night robert_ancell
[07:17] <spm> *** FYI. ppa upload service is about to be momentarily interrupted for a code update *** (the right one this time...)
[07:18] <spm> al-maisan: hey there! your timing is impeccable! just did the CP to germanium (again...)
[07:19] <spm> *** FYI. ppa upload service is all systems go again ***
[07:19] <al-maisan> Good morning spm, thanks :) What do you mean by "again"?
[07:19] <spm> bleh; the revno desired hadn't landed on prod-stable; only prod-devel; I didbn't notice that and went witha CP one revno too low. gargh.
[07:20] <al-maisan> oic
[07:21] <wgrant> Which CP? The package diffs one?
[07:21] <spm> bug 516922
[07:21] <spm> yup
[07:22] <spm> should see if it worked in ~ 2 mins...
[07:22]  * spm artificially tries to build suspense to see if he can make al-maisan nervous...
[07:22] <al-maisan> spm: :)
[07:23] <spm> I think we can call that a "Fail" on the suspense then... ;-)
[07:24] <al-maisan> spm: after (almost) 2 years of Soyuz I've had all the suspense I may wish for :P
[07:24] <wgrant> Haha.
[07:25] <spm> al-maisan: I'm sure I don't know what you mean by that
[07:25] <spm> btw, working beautifully so far...
[07:25] <spm> and completed successfully. Woo!
[07:26]  * wgrant wonders how a graph of CP count vs. team would look.
[07:26] <al-maisan> pheww ..
[07:26] <al-maisan> :)
[07:26] <spm> wgrant: dont go there. please. you'll depress the ... something out of the losas
[07:26] <al-maisan> spm: join Soyuz and you'll know soon enough ;)
[07:27] <spm> al-maisan: the politically correct answer: But we already are! Us losas are honary members of ALL the teams! Aren't we the lucky ones!
[07:27] <al-maisan> spm: wow! I do envy you :)
[07:27] <spm> bonus points for saying without using a cynical tone of voice ;-D
[07:28] <spm> heh
[07:28]  * al-maisan googles for "cynical" ;)
[07:29] <spm> al-maisan: "Commiting the transaction." ? are spelling mistakes bugs? - not that I care tbh, as it's usually only us that'll see, but just noticed.
[07:30] <al-maisan> spm: thanks for ponting that one out -- maybe I can do a "drive by" fix.
[07:30] <spm> al-maisan: the #1 result on that google is likely to be "See System Administrators"
[07:30] <al-maisan> heh :)
[07:31] <al-maisan> closely followed by package build system developers ;)
[07:32] <spm> al-maisan: I can see that. agreed.
[07:33] <al-maisan> :)
[07:34] <spm> heh, just watching lamont tear his hair out over the buildd's can be a weeks worth of entertainment all on it's own! :-D
[08:52] <Speedy1> www.search2.net
[09:25] <jelmer> asabil: hi
[09:26] <jelmer> asabil: Unfortunately that's a known bug - bug 516768
[09:26] <jelmer> I haven't had time to look at it yet.
[09:26] <jelmer> sorry, bug 516758
[09:28] <asabil> oh oki, thanks jelmer
[09:29] <asabil> sorry for creating a duplicate
[11:48] <Laibsch> I just tried to subscribe motu sponsors to bug 515805, but got http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_5.png What's going on there?
[13:20] <ne78> Is it possible to move a project from a project group to an other project group ?
[13:32] <wgrant> ne78: Click 'Change details'.
[13:47] <Lord-Readman> hello
[13:47] <Lord-Readman> in launchpad translations how often does the "Overall Statistics:" figures update?
[13:52] <dpm> jtv, henninge ^
[13:52] <henninge> Lord-Readman: Daily, I think.
[13:53] <Lord-Readman> hmm i thought so too, but it was yesterday around 08:00 UTC and it hasnt been done today yet
[13:53] <Lord-Readman> to maybe its 48hours or someone pushes abutton?
[13:53] <henninge> Lord-Readman: no button, no
[13:54] <henninge> Lord-Readman: can you please paste the link to where you see those statistics?
[13:55] <Lord-Readman> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/
[13:55] <Lord-Readman> then click show all languages
[13:57] <Lord-Readman> do you see them?
[13:57] <Lord-Readman> Clicking on the language gives you overall stats, or you can just look at the untranslated columns etc
[13:58] <Lord-Readman> but they do not update live with translations
[13:59] <henninge> Lord-Readman: yes, I do see them.
[14:00] <henninge> Lord-Readman: and you are saying the overall statistics have not changed in the last 24 hours, right?
[14:00] <Lord-Readman> yes
[14:00] <Lord-Readman> even tried CTRL + F5
[14:02] <henninge> Lord-Readman: There have been some interference lately between the update script and a message sharing conversion script that is still running.
[14:03] <henninge> But I checked the error reports and there was nothing on there today.
[14:03] <Lord-Readman> Are you able to request the job runs now?
[14:03] <henninge> Lord-Readman: no
[14:04] <henninge> Lord-Readman: I just checked the crontab, the script runs daily at 7:27 UTC
[14:04] <henninge> Lord-Readman: oh, hang on, that is commented out
[14:05] <henninge> Lord-Readman: yes, it's because of the problems it was causing. It will be re-enabled once the other script is complete.
[14:06] <Lord-Readman> ah ok
[14:06] <henninge> jtv: Do we have any ETA on the message-sharing migration script finally being done?
[14:06] <Lord-Readman> so tomorrow at half 7ish to 8ish with all good luck
[14:06] <Lord-Readman> ?
[14:06] <henninge> Lord-Readman: no, it has been commented out since 18 January ....
[14:06] <henninge> Lord-Readman: but the weekly script is still running
[14:06] <Lord-Readman> ah, it updated yesterday though
[14:07] <Lord-Readman> ah
[14:07] <Lord-Readman> so next week
[14:07] <henninge> Lord-Readman: what day is "3" in crontab, I forget ?
[14:07] <Lord-Readman> 0 is sunday
[14:07] <Lord-Readman> 3 is wed
[14:07] <Lord-Readman> today
[14:08] <henninge> 27 07 * * 3  is the entry for the weekly script
[14:09] <ne78> Can anyone register it's project to any project group ? or is it possible to moderate them ? For example i've added my own project to the /mysql project group, is there a way to forbid that ?
[14:11] <al-openerp> i'll have to maintain the whole /openobject project group, but i would like to make two project groups, one official for officials project only containing 6 subprobjects one for unoffcials projects
[14:12] <Lord-Readman> henninge, well it didnt run today
[14:13] <Lord-Readman> is there any reason the update script cannot run at the same time as the message sharing one
[14:13] <henninge> Lord-Readman: database lockups
[14:14] <Lord-Readman> how long has it been running now?
[14:42] <henninge> Lord-Readman: sometime last fall ... on and off. ;)
[14:43] <henninge> around karmic time
[14:43] <Lord-Readman> so any guess as to when the stats will update? next wednesday?
[14:44] <Lord-Readman> they are already out by around 20,000
[14:44] <Lord-Readman> which is why i was looking forward to an update
[14:44] <henninge> I have currently an admin checking if it actually ran today.
[14:45] <Lord-Readman> kk
[14:56] <henninge> Lord-Readman: admin says, it looks like it ran.
[14:56] <jtv> Lord-Readman: haven't read the full scrollback, but the statistics update is running very slowly these days.
[14:56] <al-openerp> echo /openobject with only 6 projects and /openobject-community with all the crust, so that we can manage bugs excluding extra projects ?
[14:56] <al-openerp> oops
[14:57] <jtv> Lord-Readman: We try to run it once a day for the newer translations at least, but even that is taking several days now.
[14:58] <jtv> Lord-Readman: however, when you work on a translation, some of the statistics get updated immediately.  Even then, for Ubuntu, there may still be a wait for a daily cron job to propagate those changes to the languages overview.
[15:00] <Lord-Readman> but the dailycronjob is disabled
[15:00] <Lord-Readman> :-(
[15:43] <danbhfive> I've been having trouble with ubuntu-bug, and I tried apport-collect but it just crashed with a 412 error from wildcard.edge.launchpad.net
[16:11] <raorn> hej
[16:11] <raorn> is it possible to use methods other than ftp to use dput with lp?
[16:49] <geser> not currently
[17:00] <RoAkSoAx> hey guys is dput to PPA's broken? i keep getting: Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused
[17:12] <bigjools> RoAkSoAx: the ftp daemon crashed, someone's restarting it, thanks for letting us know
[17:12] <RoAkSoAx> np bigjools ;)
[18:04] <DumbSpammer> http://sq.armed.us/electric_car_operating_cost.html I see that this channel is logged, so I'm sending this link as an experiment to see how long it takes a search engine to find the page. Sorry of the spam :)
[18:24] <persia> DumbSpammer: Please don't do that.
[18:34] <DumbSpammer> persia, how do I repay my debt?
[18:35] <persia> DumbSpammer: Fix two bugs in launchpad?
[18:36] <DumbSpammer> hopefully something easy like spelling mistakes
[18:37] <leoquant> fix bug nr 1
[18:42] <persia> leoquant: That'S asking a lot :)
[18:42] <persia> DumbSpammer: Well, there's lots of bugs: some of them may be spelling mistakes.
[18:42] <persia> launchpad.net/launchpad/+bugs
[18:44] <DumbSpammer> Launchpad itself - There are currently no open bugs.
[18:45] <beuno> DumbSpammer, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bugs?field.tag=trivial
[18:48] <persia> And some of those are even wording/spelling issues, so trivial to address.
[18:48] <maco2> barry: happy birthday!
[18:48] <barry> maco2: thanks!
[18:51] <james_w> how do I pass a list of people to an API method?
[18:53] <mars> leonardr, ^ ?
[18:53] <leonardr> james_w: if just putting the people objects in a list isn't working, i don't know if we support that
[18:54] <leonardr> what is the method?
[18:54] <james_w> it appears like it should take the .self_link if the object is a REsource
[18:54] <james_w> createMergeProposal
[18:56] <james_w> RestfulBase has _transform_resources_to_links which does:
[18:56] <james_w>             if isinstance(value, Resource):
[18:56] <james_w>                 value = value.self_link
[18:57] <leonardr> james_w: it sounds like we should add code to do the same when the value is a list of resources
[18:57] <james_w> ah, yeah, of course
[18:57] <james_w> I wasn't reading correctly
[18:57] <james_w> I'll hack around it for now and then make the branch
[18:57] <leonardr> james_w: thanks
[18:57] <james_w> thanks leonardr
[18:58] <leonardr> james_w: it might be difficult to add a test since i don't think lazr.restful example service has any such named operations
[18:58] <leonardr> let me know and i can add one
[18:58] <james_w> thanks
[18:58] <DumbSpammer> Well I still can't figure out what launchpad is. Is it a program you run on your computer or is it a server side program running the website?
[19:00] <maxb> LOSAs: Loggerhead seems unhappy. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maxb/launchpad/stop-using-deprecated-sets/files => "Internal Server Error"
[19:01] <persia> DumbSpammer: server-side
[19:02] <mbarnett> maxb: taking a look
[19:03] <mbarnett> maxb: is it possible that was transient?  i am pulling it up fine
[19:04] <maxb> hmm... I repeated it 3 times before asking, but it works for me too now
[19:05] <mbarnett> maxb: let us know if it pops up again.  i don't see anything out of the ordinary at the moment, but maybe i just missed it..
[19:06] <DumbSpammer> So how do you view/download the source code for launchpad
[19:16] <DumbSpammer> No download files exist for this project.
[19:17] <oojah> DumbSpammer: Try https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting
[19:22] <DumbSpammer> 250MB!
[19:23] <DumbSpammer> Here to fix bug #455203 about visiblity spelling
[19:23] <DumbSpammer> grep -i "visiblity" /path/to/source/code
[19:38] <james_w> leonardr: is it possible that lazr.restful is missing support for this too?
[19:38] <james_w> I'm getting 500s with ValueErrors back if I do it manually
[19:41] <leonardr> james_w: it is possible. for some reason i thought you knew it would work
[19:43] <james_w> nope :-)
[19:43] <leonardr> james_w: the best way to proceed would be to add a test to lazr.restful and get it to work there
[19:43] <james_w> I was just hoping
[19:44] <bac> hi DumbSpammer -- if you want to fix that bug it would be great.  getting started is a bit time consuming though.  but after that it is pretty smooth sailing
[19:58] <thekorn> james_w, hmm, I think I have createMergeProposals() working somewhere with a list of reviewers, let me try to find it
[19:58] <james_w> thekorn: that would be great
[20:00] <thekorn> james_w, ah, now I remember how it is working: 1.) you need use .self_link in the list, and 2.) review_types must have the same length than reviewers to avoid a ValueError
[20:01] <thekorn> branch.createMergeProposal(target_branch=trunk, reviewers=[user1.self_link, user2.self_link,], review_types=["code", "code"])
[20:09] <doctormo> What is the id required to fetch a branch from lp.branches ? it doesn't seem to be the url or branch name
[20:17] <thekorn> doctormo, you can use both, the short name "lp:*" or some bazaar.* url
[20:17] <thekorn> it depends on which method you use
[20:17] <doctormo> thekorn: from lp.branches.GetByUrl()
[20:18] <thekorn> doctormo, right, like     launchpad.branches.getByUrl(url="lp:zeitgeist")
[20:21] <thekorn> or    launchpad.branches.getByUniqueName(unique_name="~zeitgeist/zeitgeist/trunk")
[20:26] <persia> DumbSpammer: How is it progressing?  Could you find the offending code for visiblity?
[20:36] <doctormo> Huh is launchpad beta currently down?
[20:38] <doctormo> ssh: Could not resolve hostname bazaar.launchpad.net: Name or service not known
[20:43] <mwhudson> doctormo: no?
[20:46] <Bookman> I'm trying to use Launchpad to access the Ubuntu bug reporting and whenever I enter a search term all I get is an error:  (Error ID: OOPS-1502B4019)
[20:51] <Bookman> Great, ubottu recommends a link that requires sign in....excellent.
[20:52] <mwhudson> Bookman: it's link for the devs (us) not you, fwiw
[20:52] <Bookman> Ah, ok.
[20:53] <Bookman> so, for regular folks that use launchpad with errors?
[20:55] <persia> We complain here, and post the errors, and the links show up, and the devs go investigate (ideally)
[20:55] <Bookman> Maybe that should be in the title!
[21:01] <Bookman> (Error ID: OOPS-1502B4066)
[21:03] <Bookman> (Error ID: OOPS-1502O3999)
[21:05] <oskude> hi, a newbie user question, administering my first program in launchpad. is a "series" in "Series Goal" (in blueprint) a branch in bzr ?
[21:05] <cody-somerville> Bookman, You're requests are unfortunately timing out.
[21:05] <cody-somerville> *Your
[21:05] <Bookman> Why?
[21:10] <Bookman> Ok, I give up.....
[21:11] <kfogel> mwhudson: fwiw, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel/revision/launchpad@pqm.canonical.com-20100205150750-blu72y9wn7k94sgw keeps getting "Please try again. Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server."
[21:18] <GaryvdM> Hi - I'm trying to restore a branch that failed to upgrade.
[21:19] <GaryvdM> I tried to rename the broken .bzr dir, but I got a permission error.
[21:19] <GaryvdM> see http://paste.ubuntu.com/373500/
[21:19] <james_w> thekorn: aha, thank you
[21:21] <Bookman> Oh yeah, my time out error happens all the time.  Very frustrating.
[21:24] <james_w> has the diff generation cron job been made less frequent, or is there a backlog more often recently?
[21:25] <Bookman> Ok, I've tried everywhere/everything.  I give up.
[21:27] <kklimonda> Bookman, patience is a virtue.. I'm sure that administrators are either working on that or busy doing something just as important
[21:28] <GaryvdM> Ok - I'm guessing that the serve won't allow me to make anything other than .bzr and backup.bzr
[21:29] <GaryvdM> So I'm going to take the plunge, and rmtree  .bzr && rename backup.bzr .bzr
[21:29] <james_w> GaryvdM: it allows .bzr.backup as well
[21:29] <GaryvdM> ah
[21:42] <DumbSpammer> persia, well I want to search through the code to find the spelling error but it looks like I'll have to start a 250MB download to do that
[21:42] <DumbSpammer> Is this software really that big?
[21:43] <thumper> DumbSpammer: yes
[21:43] <thumper> it is a DVCS
[21:43] <thumper> you're getting complete history
[21:48] <DumbSpammer> dev-util/bazaar <- is that what I need to download the sources?
[21:48] <DumbSpammer> version 1.4.2-r1
[21:48] <mwhudson> you need something newer than that
[21:48] <mwhudson> version 2.0 or better
[22:08] <persia> DumbSpammer: It's probably faster to download the 250MB and run grep then to dig through each file on the web interface, but once you have the code, updates should be *much* smaller.
[22:37] <DumbSpammer> persia now bzr won't run because pyexpat python module is missing
[22:38] <DumbSpammer> and there seems to not be a package for it on Gentoo
[22:38] <persia> DumbSpammer: Hrm.  That gets tricky.  Is it available in the cheeseshop?
[22:38] <DumbSpammer> What's the cheesshop
[22:39]  * persia waits for the browser to unhang
[22:40] <persia> Seems the cheeseshop grew up, and became pypi : http://pypi.python.org/pypi
[22:40] <persia> But lots of that can just work without much ebuild.  Some of the modules require more.  I'm not sure about pyexpat
[22:44] <DumbSpammer> dev-python/yolk escription:         Tool and library for querying PyPI and locally installed Python packages
[22:44] <DumbSpammer> Do I need that
[22:44] <persia> I'm not sure (I use Ubuntu), but it might help you get the right stuff in place.
[22:44]  * persia hunts for other resources
[22:45] <wgrant> DumbSpammer: There are much newer versions of bzr in Gentoo...
[22:45] <wgrant> 2.0.1 is stable except on some obscure archs.
[22:45] <persia> DumbSpammer: You might also try #gentoo-python : they may be able to better guide you on getting pyexpat installed.
[22:45] <DumbSpammer> okay
[22:46] <persia> Sorry to send you all over the place, but I just want to get you to the most knowledgeable people for each bit.
[22:47] <DumbSpammer> I needed to update-eix ... didn't see 2.0.1 version
[22:48] <wgrant> It did seem slightly unlikely that Gentoo of all distros would have a version of bzr that was nearly two years old.
[22:49] <persia> indeed :)
[22:52] <DumbSpammer> dev-python/setuptools-0.6.8-r1 dev-python/pycrypto-2.1.0_beta1 dev-python/paramiko-1.7.6
[22:52] <DumbSpammer> Those are the dependences bzr needs on Gentoo
[22:52] <DumbSpammer> I guess pyexpat must be in there somewhere
[22:55] <czajkowski> mwhudson: https://login.launchpad.net/  copyright 2004-2009 slightly out of date no ?
[22:57] <persia> czajkowski: Are you certain the code changed in the last six weeks for that bit?
[22:57] <czajkowski> persia: not sure just wondered
[22:58] <wgrant> It's not actually part of Launchpad, so it might not have.
[22:58] <czajkowski> hmm
[22:59] <czajkowski> wgrant: ah fair enough, just wondered was it out of date, or just not updated :)
[23:14] <DumbSpammer> Time to file Gentoo bug report. Python must need XML support enabled
[23:25] <persia> DumbSpammer: Another alternative you might consider is to set up an Ubuntu chroot, and hack on launchpad in that.
[23:25] <persia> Might be easier than fixing gentoo to be a great launchpad development platform (although that's a reasonable goal in it's own right)
[23:26] <wgrant> You need python-apt to run Launchpad, and dpkg to run other bits, so running it on Gentoo might be difficult.
[23:26] <persia> DumbSpammer: http://buffalo.nas-central.org/index.php/Debootstrap_Ubuntu_from_Gentoo is instructions for a NAS, but it ought work for any workstation as well.
[23:26] <persia> (except you probably want to debootstrap karmic rather than gutsy)
[23:27] <persia> Oh, and you're probably not on powerpc :)
[23:30] <poolie_> mwhudson, thumper, re https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/100631
[23:30] <poolie_> does launchpad automatically remirror now when the source format changes?
[23:30] <mwhudson> poolie_: yes
[23:31] <mwhudson> (it always has done, modulo a few bugs)
[23:31] <mwhudson> no known bugs in the area now though
[23:31] <micahg> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu is timing out...is this known?
[23:41] <poolie_> micahg: it was not known to me, at least
[23:41] <poolie_> how much of the time?
[23:42] <poolie_> do you have an oops number?
[23:42] <micahg> poolie_: seems to be working again
[23:43] <micahg> poolie_: sorry, I refreshed it away, should I note them if it happens again?
[23:44] <poolie_> well, if it's a persistent problem, then it helps
[23:44] <poolie_> because it lets the devs match it up with the server side error
[23:44] <poolie_> they are logged though and people do analyze them\
[23:44] <poolie_> if it's permanently stuck please tell us though