[00:00] <Yorvik> No wired
[00:00] <BluesKaj> oh, ok
[00:01] <BluesKaj> i just use the /etc/network/interfaces settings for the pc , no nm or wicd needed
[00:03] <Yorvik> I do on the karmic machines but, DHCP on the Lucid ones
[00:03] <BluesKaj> on lucid /etc/network/interfaces settings works fine
[00:06] <Yorvik> Yup, but as it’s  testing I tend to leave things at there default settings.
[00:09] <BluesKaj> i have this belkin with the rt2870 ralink chip, that absolutely refuses to connect on lucid using the same settings that worked in jaunty. karmic is hopeless as well
[00:10] <BluesKaj> same wicd settings that is
[00:10] <BluesKaj> err wifi settings
[00:13] <Yorvik> The one functioning laptop I have is running WiFi quite happily using network-manager on karmic
[00:14] <Yorvik> But a friend tried Ubuntu for the first time and the live CD worked but his wifi stopped working when he installed it to HDD.
[00:15] <Yorvik> Second Lucid machine now working with wicd and Dhcp
[00:18] <BluesKaj> laptop wifi seems to have no problems with wifi on most ubuntu versions , even lucid. USB wifi adapters however don't.
[00:20] <Yorvik> His is a USB device
[00:25] <BluesKaj> Yorvik, what model device
[00:25] <BluesKaj> ?
[00:28] <Yorvik> Don’t know. He’s got a wired connection for now.  We’ll try and sort it latter in the week.
[00:29] <Yorvik> Right, Bed time
[00:32] <BluesKaj> well, if you guys manage to connect the usb adapter, i hope you're around to tell us how you did it.
[00:42] <Volkodav> what do you are the chances that onboard LAn will start working if I flash the BIOS to the latest ?
[00:43] <Volkodav> not working now after 2 months on Asus mobo
[01:01] <Berzerker> anyone running UNR? I'm getting constant netbook launcher crashes.
[01:05] <Berzerker> anyone?
[01:30] <bjsnider> !info libxvidcore4 lucid
[01:30] <bjsnider> was that renamed?
[01:32] <bjsnider> !info xvidcore lucid
[01:33] <crimsun> no, it wasn't renamed; why?
[01:33] <crimsun>   xvidcore | 2:1.2.2+debian-0ubuntu1 | lucid/multiverse | source
[01:33] <crimsun> libxvidcore4 | 2:1.2.2+debian-0ubuntu1 | lucid/multiverse | amd64, i386
[01:35] <bjsnider> !info libxvidcore lucid
[01:35] <bjsnider> !info libxvidcore-dev lucid
[01:35] <bjsnider> renamed to libxvidcore
[01:37] <crimsun> what are you referring to?
[01:38] <bjsnider> just making sure the control file takes the name change into account
[01:38] <bjsnider> that's done
[01:51] <SomeoneE1se> is there a solution for the ugly firefox buttons?
[01:51] <SomeoneE1se> everything I've found is 2-3 years old and no longer works.
[01:53] <crimsun> missing context
[01:54] <SomeoneE1se> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1560160&postcount=1
[01:56] <crimsun> that's most definitely specific to your configuration
[01:57] <SomeoneE1se> I'd assume ask in #ubuntu, but I'm guessing I'm going to get told to ask here becasue I'm on Lynx
[01:59] <SomeoneE1se> how would I change it?
[01:59] <crimsun> look at your gtk theme
[02:00] <SomeoneE1se> oic, thanks I shall research
[02:02] <crimsun> SomeoneE1se: e.g., it looks pretty decent by default: see http://trilug.org/~crimsun/Screenshot.png
[02:04] <SomeoneE1se> just figured out it's becasue I'm also using openbox
[02:04] <crimsun> ah, so you didn't have gnome-settings-daemon running?
[02:06] <SomeoneE1se> that's much better
[02:06] <SomeoneE1se> crimsun: thanks this is exactly what I'm looking for
[02:07] <SomeoneE1se> do you know the way off the top of you head to make them smaller? if not I can look that up myself
[03:10] <SomeoneE1se> crimsun: I've done that, but now no icons show up
[03:14] <SomeoneE1se> I've started gnome-settings-daemon but now no icons in firfox show up, and if I kill it they come back, thoughts?
[04:01] <SomeoneE1se> had to step away, did one find a solution to my question?
[04:42] <kermiac> does anyone know if openoffice 3.2 will make it into lucid?
[04:45] <iflema> kermiac yep
[04:46] <kermiac> awesome news, ty iflema :)
[04:51] <Damascene> Good morning,
[05:11] <alex_mayorga> is KDE 4.4 coming to Kubuntu?
[05:12] <kklimonda> yes
[05:13] <alex_mayorga> kklimonda, thanks, what else would be included?
[05:14] <kklimonda> what do you mean? a lot of things
[05:15] <alex_mayorga> I mean big things, like OOo or KDE
[05:17] <syn-ack> Hey got an odd question... does #ubuntu+1 cover Xubuntu Lucid support as well considering there is no #xubuntu+1....
[05:21] <arand> syn-ack: I would assume so, since I think kubuntu+1 happens here quite a bit as well.
[05:21] <syn-ack> hrm
[05:21] <syn-ack> would someone like to help me with bug 519641 then?
[05:28] <Damascene> the netbook-launcher is broken I think on my system. I'm currently on gnome. when I login to Netbook Edition interface there is nothing on the desktop and the home button on the tool-bar doesn't work
[05:32] <crimsun> Damascene: dpkg -l netbook-launcher|grep ^ii
[05:32] <crimsun> Damascene: if you aren't using 1:2.1.12-0ubuntu6, you should upgrade to it
[05:33] <crimsun> it's bug 519050, BTW
[05:40] <Damascene> crimsun, I've the ubuntu5
[05:41] <arand> syn-ack: However I'm afraid now seems to be the worst off-hours time.
[05:43] <Damascene> even I've updated yesterday. I find there is new update today
[05:52] <crimsun> syn-ack: that looks like an X.Org driver issue, i.e., xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:53] <crimsun> syn-ack: I would begin bisecting which Lucid package caused it
[06:01] <syn-ack> crimsun: Yeah, that's what I've had a hard time trying to figure out... which driver caused it.. though admittedly, I have been working some pretty hell hours at work and havent had the time really to dig in
[06:04] <syn-ack> hrm, you're right... I wonder if it is, in fact a driver issue
[06:11] <Damascene> crimsun, now the left panel is blinking and can't be used
[06:18] <crimsun> Damascene: check the other bug reports for netbook-launcher
[06:19] <DanaG> ugh, brightness control doesn't work.
[06:20] <syn-ack> crimsun: The Intel driver is only 2d, no?
[06:20] <syn-ack> wouldn't 3d be handled by mesa?
[06:21] <crimsun> syn-ack: which bug are you referring to?
[06:22] <syn-ack> Well, I noticed in my bug is missing both DKMS references and GLXinfo which, to me would point to some sort of 3d driver issue, no?
[06:27] <syn-ack> hrm. well, nm I have to get to bed anyway. 7 am comes early. g'night guys
[08:07] <ZykoticK9> with chromium-browser's Bookmark Manager  is anyone able to resize the "Title" or "URL" spacing in the main body of the windows?  When I mouse over the resize in the title I the mouse changes from a pointer to arrows pointing in both directions, but does not allow me to click and drag to resize.  Lucid Alpha 2 up-to-date, AMD64, Chromium 4.0.305.0 (36929) Ubuntu, Nvidia, Compiz ON or OFF
[08:50] <Speedy1> www.search2.net
[09:06] <coz_> hey guys..... the system clock...systray etc  do not stay in the same position I put them in after reboot or  restart...with or without   "Lock to Panel"  enalbed....any way to prevent them from moving??
[09:06] <coz_> ah forget that^^^   its for karmic
[09:06] <rww> coz_: is your panel set to expand to the edges of the screen?
[09:06] <coz_> rww,  yeah
[09:07] <vish> coz_: if you have moved your items around , and restarted to find things change order... its a known bug [for a long time]
[09:07] <rww> heh. I've seen that happen when it's not set to expand pretty often. Only other time I've seen it is when a program (game, usually) runs fullscreen and changes the resolution, and doesn't set it back right when it's done.
[09:08] <coz_> vish,  ah  ok  I thought so ... it has been happening for some time now  ...thanks :)
[09:08] <coz_> I will have to remember "never" to move these things  :)
[09:09] <vish> coz_: Bug #44082
[09:09] <coz_> vish,  thanks guys reading now
[09:14] <coz_> wow.. since 2006.. sounds about right
[09:14] <coz_> :)
[09:27] <maxb> Something weird is happening... Alt+F[1-6] are switching VT out of X !?
[09:27] <maxb> Can someone confirm?
[09:30] <kklimonda> no
[09:30] <kklimonda> have you used sysrq+r ?
[09:31] <Machtin> E: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle. <- any thoughts on that?
[09:32] <maxb> um, not since rebooting
[09:32]  * maxb reboots again
[09:33] <tolonuga> Hi. How can I ask someone to import a package from debian testing: opensc (ubuntu has an older, changed package, but the changes can be dropped if you use the new version)
[09:33] <tolonuga> would be nice to get the latest package with lots of fixes into ubuntu...
[09:34] <BUGabundo_remote> {quick} morning
[09:36] <maxb> kklimonda: So, I powered off, powered on, and pressed Alt+F2 when gdm came up, and got sent to a text console
[10:01] <usernet> what gdm version
[10:01] <usernet> in lucid?
[10:01] <kklimonda> 2.29.6
[10:03] <usernet> is it support for configuring multiple local servers via configuration files?
[10:03] <kklimonda> no idae
[10:04] <kklimonda> idea even
[12:54] <coz_> any news on nvidia?
[12:59] <cecil> works here, what news ?
[12:59] <coz_> cecil,  still doesnt work here
[12:59] <coz_> I can try again and restart to see
[13:00] <cecil> iv had a lot of probs in the past but its working now for some reason !
[13:02] <cecil> a few times i got the driver from nvidia's ftp site
[13:02] <coz_> i'll find out in about a minued
[13:02] <coz_> minute
[13:02] <coz_> with the nvidia driver manual install it just freezes the system...generally withi hardwar drivers it doesnt boot but let me check
[13:03] <cecil> far as i know plymouth dont work with nv
[13:03] <cecil> BIG DEAL
[13:03] <coz_> I am not concerned with plymouth at all :)
[13:05] <Kwpolska> I want to get ubuntu with jigdo.
[13:06] <Kwpolska> It's asking me for DEBIAN repo (original tarball).
[13:06] <Kwpolska> What is the right lucid repo to give jigdo?
[13:06] <coz_> yay it works :)
[13:09] <coz_> damn no it doesnt work
[13:09] <BUGabundo_remote> FYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316215	        Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released rule to enable use of android's adb
[13:14] <cecil> coz_: what dont wk ?
[13:21] <coz_> well the nvidia driver install from hardware drivers "sort of"  worked but freezes the system when I try to do anything...so.,. I think what I will do is wait until march or release in april...
[13:22] <yofel> coz_: bug 516412 ?
[13:23] <coz_> yofel,  ah   ok  well yes that is what happens :)   I can wait ... I wanted to test  StormOs anyway :)
[13:23] <coz_> yoasif,  can plymouth be uninstalled completely?
[13:23] <yofel> coz_: yes, but purge it
[13:24] <yofel> it's just a recommends right now
[13:24] <coz_> ok I will try that later today if Storm  doesn feel good
[13:26] <naught101> I want to dist-upgrade from hardy to lucid using the alternate CD
[13:27] <naught101> but I don't have a CD-drive - I was hoping to be able to do it by mounting the cd iso with "mount -o loop .."
[13:27] <naught101> does anyone know if that's possible, and if so, how to get apt to recognise it as a source?
[13:28] <SwedeMike> naught101: why do you want to upgrade using the cd?
[13:28] <SwedeMike> naught101: update-manager -d should do that for you, I would imagine.
[13:29] <SwedeMike> anyhow, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading tells you how to mount the iso
[13:31] <naught101> SwedeMike: because my hard-drive doesn't have enough space to do  full dist-upgrade from the network...
[13:32] <cecil> coz_: what storm ?
[13:32] <coz_> cecil,   StormOs
[13:32] <mvo> naught101: if you loop mount and run /mnt/cdromupgrade /mnt that may work, I'm not sure if apt cdrom will find the cdrom when its not a real one though
[13:32] <cecil> coz_: ok. thought you were in bad weather
[13:33] <coz_> cecil,  oh that too  we are getting another 10" ontop of the 23"  already on the ground :(
[13:33] <naught101> mvo: right, that script looks like it might work
[13:34] <SwedeMike> naught101: if you loop-mount /var/cache/apt/ to somewhere else (copy the contents first), won't that help?
[13:34] <SwedeMike> naught101: that way the packages downloaded wont end up on your /
[13:34] <naught101> SwedeMike: yeah, I guess, I've done that before actually, but I've got the CD now, and the script seems to be working
[13:34] <naught101> thanks :)
[13:35] <naught101> s/CD/ISO/
[13:35] <naught101> see how many packages I can break by only upgrading half the system...
[13:57] <scotd> is lucid based on debian stable, testing, or unstable?
[14:00] <en> Hello everyone, where can i get the iso for lucid?
[14:00] <BUGabundo_remote> scotd: unstable of course
[14:00] <BUGabundo_remote> !daily | en
[14:01] <en> does it have support for ATI graphics?
[14:03] <en> I'll give it a shot as a livecd before installing thanks BUGabundo_remote.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:06] <BUGabundo_remote> hey BluesKaj
[14:06] <BUGabundo_remote> en no idea. I have nvidia
[14:07] <cecil> coz_: where u at ? im in miami, crappy here to, hot, cold, rainy, off and on
[14:09] <cecil> coz_: dont know what to wear next !
[14:13] <cecil> :)
[14:22] <BluesKaj> hi BUGabundo_remote
[14:30] <BUGabundo_remote> hey BluesKaj
[14:31] <kklimonda> how is home folder encrypted when the option is chosen in the installer?
[14:31] <kklimonda> does it use ecryptfs?
[14:32] <marienz> kklimonda: last time I checked: yes
[14:32] <alex_mayorga> so how do I get past https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/507842
[14:33] <alex_mayorga> my last upgrade gave me "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[14:33] <alex_mayorga> do I just run that and it'll fix itself?
[14:37] <zinox> there is any howto to help me install this video card >> ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] in ubuntu 10.04 ??
[14:38] <zinox> i would like to use fglrx driver
[14:46] <semitones>  ok, non hypothetical situation: I need to crop and resize a picture to use as a profile picture in Buzz -- what program do I use that comes installed by default on Lucid?
[14:47] <BUGabundo_remote> semitones: fspot, gimp, nautilus-image, anything else from cli ?
[14:48] <marienz> iirc gimp's no longer installed by default (although I'm not sure why you have that requirement)
[14:48] <marienz> what's nautilus-image?
[14:49] <BUGabundo_remote> marienz: does it *really* mind what comes or not by default?
[14:49] <marienz> ah, that can't crop iiuc. I'd just use gimp, but meh.
[14:49] <marienz> BUGabundo_remote: I don't think so, no.
[14:49] <BUGabundo_remote> default system is unusable for me
[14:49] <semitones> marienz, I just wonder what new users will use to do this
[14:49] <BUGabundo_remote> semitones: they will open Software Center, search for image and install one
[14:49] <marienz> semitones: I'd guess f-spot
[14:49] <marienz> or that.
[14:49] <BUGabundo_remote> why complicate what's NOT complicated?
[14:49] <semitones> BUGabundo_remote, nah they woudn't do that
[14:49] <BUGabundo_remote> that's the 3rd thing I teach my students
[14:50] <BUGabundo_remote> even my fatehr does that!
[14:50] <semitones> marienz, alright, I'll try fspot-- I always thought it was for *managing* photos
[14:50] <BUGabundo_remote> and he is computer iletared
[14:50] <semitones> like a photo album
[14:52]  * CardinalFang likes "iletared", like it's a verb.  After the iletaring, he was never the same.
[14:59] <semitones> is fspot lightweight
[15:00] <CardinalFang> semitones, it's not too bad.
[15:29] <crimsun> syn-ack: please see bug 404064
[15:36] <scotd> will lucid have glibc or eglibc?
[15:43] <BUGabundo_remote> bug 519855
[15:44] <Damascene> hello, yesterday netbook launcher wasn't working and there was nothing under the top panel and today after updating the left panel keep blinking all the time and no way to use it
[15:47] <Milos_SD> Hi
[15:48] <Milos_SD> I got that bug too now
[15:48] <Milos_SD> I updated udev :)
[15:49] <kklimonda> damn, every day my lucid seems to boot a bit slower - I was already close to 15 seonds and now I'm back to 20..
[15:49] <kklimonda> scotd, eglibc
[15:57] <Milos_SD> how can I fix udev issue?
[15:57] <Milos_SD> can I force version to the previouse one?
[16:03] <Milos_SD> I fixed the udev issue :)
[16:03] <Milos_SD> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=25
[16:23] <petsounds> hi. does anybody know why i get error msg when updating? thanks
[16:23] <petsounds> " E: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle "
[16:50] <scotd> kklimonda: thanks!
[17:15] <Torch> looks like i got an update to kernel 2.6.32-12
[17:15] <Torch> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-generic
[17:15] <Torch> cpio: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[17:15] <Torch> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-generic
[17:15] <Torch> what do i do?
[17:17] <zniavre> Torch,  this worked for me >http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=25
[17:17] <zniavre> what is new tooltip style from libgtk ?
[17:18] <Torch> zniavre: thanks, sounds sensible
[17:27] <CosmiChaos> I did the workaround to get bootlogo with nouveau on plymouth, since latest updates now synaptic imminently forces me to do sudo dpkg --configure -a, what i did what announces: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-preempt
[17:28] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, the exact same thing happens here, got a fix?
[17:29] <CosmiChaos> i excatly did this nine steps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/509328 Comment #3
[17:29] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, well i just hit few seconds ago by myself
[17:30] <CosmiChaos> hmm sooooo well reverse engineer it i will have a try
[17:30] <dupondje> is the bug of the gdm not starting correctly also fixed ? cause I still have a corrupt screen when booted
[17:30] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, thanks, I'll check it out
[17:31] <alex_mayorga> dupondje, I guess not, mine is also borked :(
[17:32] <dupondje> alex_mayorga: you know if there is some bugreport around ?
[17:33] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, especially step 2 might be a huge problem
[17:33] <alex_mayorga> dupondje: not really
[17:33] <CosmiChaos> attention to the correct line again alex_mayorga
[17:34] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, I see that the bug is a duplicate now
[17:34] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, step one is definetly not a problem
[17:35] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, yep but at least the workaround worked ;)
[17:37] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, fair enough, in any case I wouldn't get the fixes as this messes up aptitude right?
[17:38] <CosmiChaos> set the commentations right in 3 files, remove line 104 of the conf script, then sudo update-grub ; sudo update-initramfs -u ; reboot and try the sudo dpgk-reconfiger -a
[17:38] <CosmiChaos> or wait till i tried now
[17:39] <CosmiChaos> $ sudo update-initramfs -uupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-preempt ; cpio: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh: Funktion stat fehlgeschlagen: No such file or directory
[17:40] <CosmiChaos> now i have no idea left ....
[17:40] <dupondje> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 185.18.31, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 185.18.36.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[17:40] <dupondje> any idea ?
[17:40] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=25
[17:41] <CosmiChaos> dupondje, does nvidia-support your card?
[17:41] <dupondje> guess so ...
[17:41] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos: saw that earlier here, dunno if is the same think, my German is not as good
[17:43] <dupondje> CosmiChaos: 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[17:43] <dupondje> 	Kernel modules: nvidia-current, nvidiafb
[17:43] <dupondje> seems so
[17:44] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, did you already undo the workaround for the bootlogo?
[17:45] <bjsnider> dupondje, runt he command dkms status
[17:45]  * alex_mayorga is sitting in a corner scared
[17:45] <dupondje> bjsnider: nvidia-current, 190.53, 2.6.32-12-generic, x86_64: installed
[17:46] <bjsnider> have you used nvidia's installer in the past?
[17:46] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, I'm trying to solve "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." first
[17:46] <CosmiChaos> nvidia-current, 195.36.03, 2.6.32-12-preempt, x86_64: installed  is what i got
[17:46] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, yeah just run that after the fix you told me ;)
[17:46] <dupondje> bjsnider: nope, but seems like the logs are not up-to-date, removed, will reboot and see if I get it again
[17:47] <CosmiChaos> and then try snaptic again
[17:47] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos: baby steps, please?
[17:48] <CosmiChaos> alex_mayorga, follow that instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=25, sclose synaptic, run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", start synaptic
[17:50] <CosmiChaos> the instructions tell: "sudo gedit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev" go to script #50 and change the marked line by removing .sh
[17:50] <CosmiChaos> it may be a bit scary with nano ;)
[17:52] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, thanks, let me give that a try
[17:53] <alex_mayorga> CosmiChaos, updates are working again, thanks!
[17:54] <CosmiChaos> yep what about your bootlogo?
[17:54] <alex_mayorga> after lunch I guess :)
[17:55] <CosmiChaos> brb
[18:24] <jdobrien> where in launchpad should I report bugs for lucid? I got a "Broken Pipe" message when running the install, but it seems to be working ok
[18:31] <arand> jdobrien: just mention that it's ssen on lucid, is that when starting or when running the installer itself (ubiquity)?
[18:32] <jdobrien> arand, it's while booting from the CD image
[18:33] <arand> Yea, just boot messages, I don't know if that's the kernel, plymouth or gdm, but it's common though...
[20:03] <alex_mayorga> does butterfly-telepathy crashes every other minute for anyone else?
[20:15] <yofel> yay, kde 4.4.00 :D
[20:15] <oxymoron> Lucid Lynx users/developers, what can I expect from it in the future stable release? :P
[20:21] <Bookman> Anyone know if the Wicd/Ubuntu 10.04 bug has been addressed?
[20:22] <JoshuaL> Bookman, tried a search on the bug tracker?
[20:25] <Bookman> JoshuaL, I've not had much luck in the past using launchpad.  Very slow and error prone.
[20:25] <Bookman> Like right now, error.
[20:26] <yofel> Bookman: which page?
[20:26] <JoshuaL> ah yeah me too
[20:26] <sburwood> anyone seen lucid?
[20:26] <Bookman> yofel, just a search response to "Wicd"
[20:26] <Bookman> Happens all the time
[20:26] <yofel> hm, tried 'edge.launchpad.net' ?
[20:27] <Bookman> Nope, just launchpad.net and gave up.
[20:28] <sburwood> I have an old P4 2.4G
[20:28] <sburwood> I hope it'll work on my computer
[20:28] <yofel> sburwood: you could try a daily live disk and find out ;)
[20:29] <yofel> don't expect it to work though
[20:29] <sburwood> yofel: where do I find that?
[20:29] <yofel> !daily | sburwood
[20:29] <Bookman> I find this whole bug reporting thing very, very confusing and hard to track/follow.  I gave up yesterday trying to post a bug.
[20:30] <yofel> sburwood: you'll want the daily-live disk
[20:30] <yofel> Bookman: generally, if you have problems with launchpad you should ask in #launchpad
[20:31] <yofel> Bookman: if you have problems with the bug reporting process ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[20:31] <sburwood> yofel: why shouln t I expect it to work?
[20:31] <Bookman> yofel, you had a problem yesterday with Wicd, no?
[20:31] <yofel> sburwood: we get dozens of new packages every day, some work some don't and you won't know until someone tries it
[20:32] <yofel> sburwood: kubuntu lucid works fine for me so far, but plymouth has grave issues with the proprietare nvidia driver for example
[20:32] <yofel> Bookman: I use Network Manager
[20:33] <sburwood> yofel: I use nvidia, so that interests me
[20:33] <sburwood> thx
[20:33] <sburwood> I m a bit of a n00b
[20:33] <sburwood> bye
[20:35] <alex_mayorga> what do you use to read SMS from your phone via bluetooth?
[20:45] <alex_mayorga> something more a bit more complete than gnome-phone-manager maybe?
[20:50] <shushek> hello friends', i tried 10.04 yesterday.. but wasnt able to login after the installation..
[20:50] <shushek> can anyone advice.. i know it is still in testing
[20:51] <alex_mayorga> shushek, why couldn't you login?
[20:52] <shushek> the whole screen was all blank, cant see anything after the logo..
[20:53] <shushek> i even tried goin into the terminal, but cant see anything there as well but only some faded colors like its not taking my graphics
[20:53] <shushek> i didnt did a clean installation but it was an upgrade to 9.10
[20:54] <Bookman> yofel, well, going to #launchpad is useless....hmm how to report a bug about a bug reporting system?
[20:55] <alex_mayorga> Bookman, isn't there a link to file a bug in launchpad itself somewhere?
[20:55] <alex_mayorga> Bookman, try https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[20:57] <alex_mayorga> so is there a tool that would let me see, delete SMSs messages on my cell using bluetooth?
[20:57] <alex_mayorga> anyone?
[21:06] <arand> alex_mayorga: wammu
[21:07] <shushek> alex_mayorg, can you advice something on my issue
[21:07] <shushek> if possible
[21:09] <Bookman> I give up!  Bug reporting/searching does not work.  Reporting the bug in the bug system does not work.  Reporthing that in the bug reporting irc does not work.  I'm exhausted trying to help out!
[21:10] <alex_mayorga> arand: thanks, will check it out
[21:10] <mzuverink> How to rid system of brown  ubuntu slider logo on start up?
[21:10] <alex_mayorga> does evolution supports SMS management?
[21:12] <mzuverink> is it possible to go back to the post 9.10 gdm login manager w/ a choice in 9.10?
[21:14] <yofel> Bookman: as I said, if you need help with reporting bugs please go to #ubuntu-bugs, the experts are there
[21:14] <BUGabundo> ahh
[21:14] <yofel> hi BUGabundo
[21:14] <BUGabundo> lost my audio in this session
[21:15] <BUGabundo> wahts thsat comand that crimsun always says to restart it ?
[21:15] <BUGabundo> hey yofel?
[21:15] <BUGabundo> buzzing yet ?
[21:16] <BUGabundo> hey cool you can drag and detach and later reatach a tab from pidgin :D WIN
[21:16] <yofel> I'm just installing kde 4.4 final and then  try to reboot my eeePC after a week ^^
[21:17] <BUGabundo> okay, udev bug fixed!
[21:17] <BUGabundo> its safe to reboot :D
[21:17]  * BUGabundo trys to recall the darn pulseaudio restart command 
[21:18] <virtuald> bugabundo: isn't it just killall pulseaudio and it'll respawn automatically?
[21:18] <BUGabundo> but its dead already :/
[21:18] <virtuald> O.O
[21:18] <BUGabundo> $ ps auxw  | grep pul
[21:18] <BUGabundo> 1000     17545  0.0  0.0   7404   924 pts/0    R+   21:18   0:00 grep --color=auto pul
[21:19] <virtuald> you forgot the colors :p
[21:20] <alex_mayorga> those --color thingies, are they going to be ignored by grep in the near future?
[21:20] <BUGabundo> I hope not
[21:20]  * BUGabundo likes the color
[21:21]  * yofel too
[21:21] <BUGabundo> $ start-pulseaudio-x11
[21:21] <BUGabundo> Connection failure: Connection refused
[21:21] <BUGabundo> pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused
[21:21] <BUGabundo> crimsun: ^^^^^^^^^^
[21:23] <virtuald> doesn't pulseaudio -d -vvvv work?
[21:23] <virtuald> i meant run it in the foreground i hope that does it
[21:24] <BUGabundo> $ pulseaudio -d -vvvv
[21:24] <BUGabundo> pulseaudio: invalid option -- 'd'
[21:24] <BUGabundo> E: main.c: Failed to parse command line.
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> BUGabundo, I like the color too, just I don't like the extra line messing my grep results
[21:25] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[21:25] <BUGabundo> alex_mayorga: alias grep to awk it out
[21:25] <alex_mayorga> specially if you're shell scripting or somehow use them
[21:26] <kklimonda> BUGabundo, it's either --daemonize=false or -D (depending on whenever you want to run it in forerground or not - not sure which is default)
[21:26] <BUGabundo> virtuald: it does start, but all I get is dummy channel
[21:27] <virtuald> what do you mean, it can't find or doesn't use your sound card?
[21:28] <virtuald> yes/no
[21:29] <BUGabundo> I mean it needs a reboot
[21:29] <virtuald> ok
[21:29] <BUGabundo> now I wonder if there's a away to "reboot" all sound system _without_ restart my laptop
[21:30] <virtuald> you could try rmmod-ing all sound modules
[21:31] <virtuald> and maybe restart alsa-base
[21:31] <virtuald> maybe it's alsa-mixer-save now and not alsa-base and probably not needed
[21:32] <BUGabundo> hey Amaranth
[21:32] <Amaranth> howdy
[21:38] <yofel> ok, reboot worked :)
[21:43] <metricpiano> is there an evolution mail room?  my #IRC list isn't coming up
[21:45] <JFo> BUGabundo, I see you had some issues in bug 391215
[21:45] <JFo> have you had the same issues with Lucid?
[21:46] <BUGabundo> JFo: haven't tried it
[21:46] <JFo> ok
[21:46] <BUGabundo> and now that I use nouveu I already have that!
[21:46] <JFo> heh
[21:55] <Fanfare> Q: How to suggest rosegarden (music) 10 for Lucid?
[21:58] <kklimonda> Fanfare, what do you mean by suggest? update to the nwere version?
[21:59] <Fanfare> kklimonda: yes, i see 1.7.3 in the official repo, but there is a 10.0 beta 2 out, Which is a kde4 rewrite of rosegarden...
[22:00] <kklimonda> Fanfare, but it's still beta - will it get released before march 11?
[22:00] <Fanfare> hm, good question...
[22:00] <RAOF> Or, more pertinent, before Feb 18th, which is feature freeze.
[22:00] <Fanfare> The final release will take place in February 2010.
[22:00] <kklimonda> Fanfare, the featurefreeze is 18th february and at least beta should be uploaded till then
[22:01] <kklimonda> before*
[22:02] <nigelbabu> can someone tell me at what point they see this message? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39017101/Bildschirmfoto.png
[22:02] <nigelbabu> its in german, in english its supposed to say "Set display settings"
[22:02] <kklimonda> nigelbabu, I've never seen this message :)
[22:03] <nigelbabu> kklimonda, oh
[22:05] <kklimonda> Fanfare, I'm not sure if you are going to find someone interested in getting package updated till 18th. So unless you are willing to help (in which case you should join #ubuntu-motu and ask for comments) the chance of getting new release into lucid is slim
[22:05] <virtuald> i've only seen something like that as a pop up from the Display settings icon when I've activated that
[22:06] <kklimonda> I guess it makes sense - till now I've never used this tool as it doesn't support nvidia drivers
[22:06] <kklimonda> nigelbabu, as virtuald said it comes from Display settings icon
[22:06] <Fanfare> I wonder if the Ubuntu-Studio ppl are not interested therein...
[22:07] <nigelbabu> thanks virtuald and kklimonda :)
[22:07] <virtuald> 8]
[22:07] <Fanfare> but i can TRY to help too...
[22:11] <Guest94638> I see that usplash is in universe in lucid, is it going to be replaced by another tool?
[22:11] <arand> Guest94638: Plymouth afaik
[22:12] <kklimonda> yes, plymouth it is
[22:14] <metricpiano> Trying to use kMyMoney and I need a KDE settings manager to change the date format.  Since kMyMoney won't work on KDE4 I need to install KDE3 and I want to verify that this is correct: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3 for a KDE3 that will work under Ubuntu 10.4?
[22:15] <kklimonda> metricpiano, you will need some 3rd party repository for that
[22:16] <kklimonda> metricpiano, and at least for now the PPA that was used with karmic and previous releases doesn't have packages for lucid.
[22:17] <metricpiano> will lucid have it by the time it's released?
[22:17] <BluesKaj> metricpiano, why do you say  kMyMoney won't run on kde4?
[22:18] <kklimonda> metricpiano, most likely
[22:18] <BluesKaj> it's available in the repos
[22:19] <metricpiano> info from ipwizard the kmymoney project admin
[22:19] <metricpiano> said it wouldn't work
[22:51] <Ng> erk
[22:51] <Ng> is anyone else's update-initramfs exploding?
[22:55] <RAOF> Ng: Yes, that's bug 519855
[22:55] <yofel> Ng: somewhat about missing firmware.sh?
[22:57] <Ng> yep :)
[23:09] <dupondje> will the grub2 in Lucid support dmraid ?
[23:10] <EagleScreen> dupondje: you may ask in #grub
[23:11] <EagleScreen> ask for the version supperting it and check if it is in lucid
[23:15]  * maxb boots a lucid partition for the first time in several weeks
[23:15]  * maxb upgrades 501 packages :-)
[23:15] <BUGabundo> pff
[23:15] <BUGabundo> that's nothing
[23:15] <BUGabundo> wait until 200 of those break
[23:15] <BUGabundo> wb BluesKaj
[23:17] <BluesKaj> hey BUGabundo , been semi successful with wicd on the ralink usb adapter on the desktop.Strange thing is only parts of pages are loading
[23:17] <BUGabundo> ahah
[23:18] <BluesKaj> an idea why that would be ?
[23:19] <BUGabundo> never used wicd
[23:20] <BluesKaj> i'm on the laptop right now because irc seems to take over 5 mins to connect
[23:20] <BluesKaj> on the desktop
[23:22] <BluesKaj> nm doesn't cut it on lucid
[23:31] <Bookman_> It seems that the Wicd Ubuntu 10.04 is solved!
[23:41] <BluesKaj> maybe for him it is ...of course he didn't stick around to wait for any reaction:)
[23:42] <crimsun> virtuald: /etc/init/alsa-mixer-save.conf is an upstart job that I wrote that does precisely what its filename implies. It has nothing to do with unloading alsa driver modules; that's the function of the /sbin/alsa script.
[23:44] <BluesKaj> wicd isn't working on my pc , it's just cached web data that's loading in the browser, the router indicates the desktop pc is not connected, altho wicd shows 80%
[23:44] <crimsun> BUGabundo: /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 no longer explictily invokes the daemon. Therefore, if you have autospawn disabled, you'll need to remove that change (and reenable autospawn).
[23:45] <virtuald> /sbin/alsa?
[23:46] <virtuald> this new stuff is so confusing
[23:47] <BUGabundo> crimsun: please remember me where are the autospawn off ?
[23:49] <crimsun> virtuald: if you consider "has been there since hardy" "new", ok...
[23:49] <crimsun> BUGabundo: either in /etc/client.conf or ~/.pulse/client.conf
[23:49] <crimsun> err, /etc/pulse/client.conf
[23:50] <BUGabundo> ; autospawn = yes
[23:50] <BUGabundo> so its default system crimsun
[23:51] <BUGabundo> FYI I had a session opened in mute, logoff, logon again, no sound since then
[23:52] <virtuald> i haven't had enough reason to poke around with alsa stuff and sysv init is old enough to still call this new. and sysv init at least had everything in one place (/etc)
[23:53] <crimsun> BUGabundo: if it isn't a user config, it sounds like some odd GNOME race; there isn't any reason that PA would _not_ autospawn
[23:53] <virtuald> shouldn't there be a man page for everything in /sbin?
[23:53] <crimsun> virtuald: file a bug, write a man page, attach a patch
[23:54] <virtuald> i don't know tex, what can i use?
[23:54] <BUGabundo> lol
[23:54] <crimsun> virtuald: also, it has not been used as a proper initscript since ... 5.10
[23:55] <BUGabundo> crimsun: is there a way to restart all audio stuff?
[23:55] <virtuald> (just don't expect me to really do it, i'll probably forget about it)
[23:55] <crimsun> BUGabundo: /sbin/alsa force-reload
[23:56] <virtuald> crimsun: why not?
[23:57] <crimsun> virtuald: because it's wrong. It /shouldn't/ be an initscript, which is why it no longer exists as one.
[23:57] <crimsun> virtuald: namely, why do you need to invoke an /initscript/ to save or restore volumes?
[23:58] <virtuald> it still looks a lot like an init script to me
[23:58] <crimsun> virtuald: nothing calls /sbin/alsa
[23:59] <virtuald> ok
[23:59] <crimsun> virtuald: it's there purely for convenience, and I'm going to remove it post-LTS