YorvikNo wired00:00
BluesKajoh, ok00:00
BluesKaji just use the /etc/network/interfaces settings for the pc , no nm or wicd needed00:01
YorvikI do on the karmic machines but, DHCP on the Lucid ones00:03
BluesKajon lucid /etc/network/interfaces settings works fine00:03
YorvikYup, but as it’s  testing I tend to leave things at there default settings.00:06
BluesKaji have this belkin with the rt2870 ralink chip, that absolutely refuses to connect on lucid using the same settings that worked in jaunty. karmic is hopeless as well00:09
BluesKajsame wicd settings that is00:10
BluesKajerr wifi settings00:10
YorvikThe one functioning laptop I have is running WiFi quite happily using network-manager on karmic00:13
YorvikBut a friend tried Ubuntu for the first time and the live CD worked but his wifi stopped working when he installed it to HDD.00:14
YorvikSecond Lucid machine now working with wicd and Dhcp00:15
BluesKajlaptop wifi seems to have no problems with wifi on most ubuntu versions , even lucid. USB wifi adapters however don't.00:18
YorvikHis is a USB device00:20
BluesKajYorvik, what model device00:25
YorvikDon’t know. He’s got a wired connection for now.  We’ll try and sort it latter in the week.00:28
YorvikRight, Bed time00:29
BluesKajwell, if you guys manage to connect the usb adapter, i hope you're around to tell us how you did it.00:32
Volkodavwhat do you are the chances that onboard LAn will start working if I flash the BIOS to the latest ?00:42
Volkodavnot working now after 2 months on Asus mobo00:43
Berzerkeranyone running UNR? I'm getting constant netbook launcher crashes.01:01
bjsnider!info libxvidcore4 lucid01:30
ubottulibxvidcore4 (source: xvidcore): An open source MPEG-4 video codec (library). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:1.2.2+debian-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 249 kB, installed size 764 kB01:30
bjsniderwas that renamed?01:30
bjsnider!info xvidcore lucid01:32
ubottuPackage xvidcore does not exist in lucid01:32
crimsunno, it wasn't renamed; why?01:33
crimsun  xvidcore | 2:1.2.2+debian-0ubuntu1 | lucid/multiverse | source01:33
crimsunlibxvidcore4 | 2:1.2.2+debian-0ubuntu1 | lucid/multiverse | amd64, i38601:33
bjsnider!info libxvidcore lucid01:35
ubottuPackage libxvidcore does not exist in lucid01:35
bjsnider!info libxvidcore-dev lucid01:35
ubottulibxvidcore-dev (source: xvidcore): An open source MPEG-4 video codec (development). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2:1.2.2+debian-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 264 kB, installed size 944 kB01:35
bjsniderrenamed to libxvidcore01:35
crimsunwhat are you referring to?01:37
bjsniderjust making sure the control file takes the name change into account01:38
bjsniderthat's done01:38
SomeoneE1seis there a solution for the ugly firefox buttons?01:51
SomeoneE1seeverything I've found is 2-3 years old and no longer works.01:51
crimsunmissing context01:53
crimsunthat's most definitely specific to your configuration01:56
SomeoneE1seI'd assume ask in #ubuntu, but I'm guessing I'm going to get told to ask here becasue I'm on Lynx01:57
SomeoneE1sehow would I change it?01:59
crimsunlook at your gtk theme01:59
SomeoneE1seoic, thanks I shall research02:00
crimsunSomeoneE1se: e.g., it looks pretty decent by default: see http://trilug.org/~crimsun/Screenshot.png02:02
SomeoneE1sejust figured out it's becasue I'm also using openbox02:04
crimsunah, so you didn't have gnome-settings-daemon running?02:04
SomeoneE1sethat's much better02:06
SomeoneE1secrimsun: thanks this is exactly what I'm looking for02:06
SomeoneE1sedo you know the way off the top of you head to make them smaller? if not I can look that up myself02:07
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SomeoneE1secrimsun: I've done that, but now no icons show up03:10
SomeoneE1seI've started gnome-settings-daemon but now no icons in firfox show up, and if I kill it they come back, thoughts?03:14
SomeoneE1sehad to step away, did one find a solution to my question?04:01
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kermiacdoes anyone know if openoffice 3.2 will make it into lucid?04:42
iflemakermiac yep04:45
kermiacawesome news, ty iflema :)04:46
DamasceneGood morning,04:51
alex_mayorgais KDE 4.4 coming to Kubuntu?05:11
alex_mayorgakklimonda, thanks, what else would be included?05:13
kklimondawhat do you mean? a lot of things05:14
alex_mayorgaI mean big things, like OOo or KDE05:15
syn-ackHey got an odd question... does #ubuntu+1 cover Xubuntu Lucid support as well considering there is no #xubuntu+1....05:17
arandsyn-ack: I would assume so, since I think kubuntu+1 happens here quite a bit as well.05:21
syn-ackwould someone like to help me with bug 519641 then?05:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 519641 in xorg "gdm/x fails to start with error "Broken Pipe" at boot in Xubuntu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51964105:21
Damascenethe netbook-launcher is broken I think on my system. I'm currently on gnome. when I login to Netbook Edition interface there is nothing on the desktop and the home button on the tool-bar doesn't work05:28
crimsunDamascene: dpkg -l netbook-launcher|grep ^ii05:32
crimsunDamascene: if you aren't using 1:2.1.12-0ubuntu6, you should upgrade to it05:32
crimsunit's bug 519050, BTW05:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 519050 in netbook-launcher "netbook-launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in g_object_newv()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51905005:33
Damascenecrimsun, I've the ubuntu505:40
arandsyn-ack: However I'm afraid now seems to be the worst off-hours time.05:41
Damasceneeven I've updated yesterday. I find there is new update today05:43
crimsunsyn-ack: that looks like an X.Org driver issue, i.e., xserver-xorg-video-intel05:52
crimsunsyn-ack: I would begin bisecting which Lucid package caused it05:53
syn-ackcrimsun: Yeah, that's what I've had a hard time trying to figure out... which driver caused it.. though admittedly, I have been working some pretty hell hours at work and havent had the time really to dig in06:01
syn-ackhrm, you're right... I wonder if it is, in fact a driver issue06:04
Damascenecrimsun, now the left panel is blinking and can't be used06:11
crimsunDamascene: check the other bug reports for netbook-launcher06:18
DanaGugh, brightness control doesn't work.06:19
syn-ackcrimsun: The Intel driver is only 2d, no?06:20
syn-ackwouldn't 3d be handled by mesa?06:20
crimsunsyn-ack: which bug are you referring to?06:21
syn-ackWell, I noticed in my bug is missing both DKMS references and GLXinfo which, to me would point to some sort of 3d driver issue, no?06:22
syn-ackhrm. well, nm I have to get to bed anyway. 7 am comes early. g'night guys06:27
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ZykoticK9with chromium-browser's Bookmark Manager  is anyone able to resize the "Title" or "URL" spacing in the main body of the windows?  When I mouse over the resize in the title I the mouse changes from a pointer to arrows pointing in both directions, but does not allow me to click and drag to resize.  Lucid Alpha 2 up-to-date, AMD64, Chromium 4.0.305.0 (36929) Ubuntu, Nvidia, Compiz ON or OFF08:07
coz_hey guys..... the system clock...systray etc  do not stay in the same position I put them in after reboot or  restart...with or without   "Lock to Panel"  enalbed....any way to prevent them from moving??09:06
coz_ah forget that^^^   its for karmic09:06
rwwcoz_: is your panel set to expand to the edges of the screen?09:06
coz_rww,  yeah09:06
vishcoz_: if you have moved your items around , and restarted to find things change order... its a known bug [for a long time]09:07
rwwheh. I've seen that happen when it's not set to expand pretty often. Only other time I've seen it is when a program (game, usually) runs fullscreen and changes the resolution, and doesn't set it back right when it's done.09:07
coz_vish,  ah  ok  I thought so ... it has been happening for some time now  ...thanks :)09:08
coz_I will have to remember "never" to move these things  :)09:08
vishcoz_: Bug #4408209:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 44082 in hundredpapercuts "GNOME Panel icons (on right side) move apparently randomly on session start in some situations" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4408209:09
coz_vish,  thanks guys reading now09:09
coz_wow.. since 2006.. sounds about right09:14
maxbSomething weird is happening... Alt+F[1-6] are switching VT out of X !?09:27
maxbCan someone confirm?09:27
kklimondahave you used sysrq+r ?09:30
MachtinE: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle. <- any thoughts on that?09:31
maxbum, not since rebooting09:32
* maxb reboots again09:32
tolonugaHi. How can I ask someone to import a package from debian testing: opensc (ubuntu has an older, changed package, but the changes can be dropped if you use the new version)09:33
tolonugawould be nice to get the latest package with lots of fixes into ubuntu...09:33
BUGabundo_remote{quick} morning09:34
maxbkklimonda: So, I powered off, powered on, and pressed Alt+F2 when gdm came up, and got sent to a text console09:36
usernetwhat gdm version10:01
usernetin lucid?10:01
usernetis it support for configuring multiple local servers via configuration files?10:03
kklimondano idae10:03
kklimondaidea even10:04
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coz_any news on nvidia?12:54
cecilworks here, what news ?12:59
coz_cecil,  still doesnt work here12:59
coz_I can try again and restart to see12:59
ceciliv had a lot of probs in the past but its working now for some reason !13:00
cecila few times i got the driver from nvidia's ftp site13:02
coz_i'll find out in about a minued13:02
coz_with the nvidia driver manual install it just freezes the system...generally withi hardwar drivers it doesnt boot but let me check13:02
cecilfar as i know plymouth dont work with nv13:03
cecilBIG DEAL13:03
coz_I am not concerned with plymouth at all :)13:03
KwpolskaI want to get ubuntu with jigdo.13:05
KwpolskaIt's asking me for DEBIAN repo (original tarball).13:06
KwpolskaWhat is the right lucid repo to give jigdo?13:06
coz_yay it works :)13:06
coz_damn no it doesnt work13:09
BUGabundo_remoteFYI https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/316215        Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released rule to enable use of android's adb13:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 316215 in udev "rule to enable use of android's adb" [Wishlist,Fix released]13:09
cecilcoz_: what dont wk ?13:14
coz_well the nvidia driver install from hardware drivers "sort of"  worked but freezes the system when I try to do anything...so.,. I think what I will do is wait until march or release in april...13:21
yofelcoz_: bug 516412 ?13:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 516412 in plymouth "Pressing <Enter> causes X to freeze" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51641213:22
coz_yofel,  ah   ok  well yes that is what happens :)   I can wait ... I wanted to test  StormOs anyway :)13:23
coz_yoasif,  can plymouth be uninstalled completely?13:23
yofelcoz_: yes, but purge it13:23
yofelit's just a recommends right now13:24
coz_ok I will try that later today if Storm  doesn feel good13:24
naught101I want to dist-upgrade from hardy to lucid using the alternate CD13:26
naught101but I don't have a CD-drive - I was hoping to be able to do it by mounting the cd iso with "mount -o loop .."13:27
naught101does anyone know if that's possible, and if so, how to get apt to recognise it as a source?13:27
SwedeMikenaught101: why do you want to upgrade using the cd?13:28
SwedeMikenaught101: update-manager -d should do that for you, I would imagine.13:28
SwedeMikeanyhow, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading tells you how to mount the iso13:29
naught101SwedeMike: because my hard-drive doesn't have enough space to do  full dist-upgrade from the network...13:31
cecilcoz_: what storm ?13:32
coz_cecil,   StormOs13:32
mvonaught101: if you loop mount and run /mnt/cdromupgrade /mnt that may work, I'm not sure if apt cdrom will find the cdrom when its not a real one though13:32
cecilcoz_: ok. thought you were in bad weather13:32
coz_cecil,  oh that too  we are getting another 10" ontop of the 23"  already on the ground :(13:33
naught101mvo: right, that script looks like it might work13:33
SwedeMikenaught101: if you loop-mount /var/cache/apt/ to somewhere else (copy the contents first), won't that help?13:34
SwedeMikenaught101: that way the packages downloaded wont end up on your /13:34
naught101SwedeMike: yeah, I guess, I've done that before actually, but I've got the CD now, and the script seems to be working13:34
naught101thanks :)13:34
naught101see how many packages I can break by only upgrading half the system...13:35
scotdis lucid based on debian stable, testing, or unstable?13:57
enHello everyone, where can i get the iso for lucid?14:00
BUGabundo_remotescotd: unstable of course14:00
BUGabundo_remote!daily | en14:00
ubottuen: Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/14:00
endoes it have support for ATI graphics?14:01
enI'll give it a shot as a livecd before installing thanks BUGabundo_remote.14:03
BUGabundo_remotehey BluesKaj14:06
BUGabundo_remoteen no idea. I have nvidia14:06
cecilcoz_: where u at ? im in miami, crappy here to, hot, cold, rainy, off and on14:07
cecilcoz_: dont know what to wear next !14:09
BluesKajhi BUGabundo_remote14:22
BUGabundo_remotehey BluesKaj14:30
kklimondahow is home folder encrypted when the option is chosen in the installer?14:31
kklimondadoes it use ecryptfs?14:31
marienzkklimonda: last time I checked: yes14:32
alex_mayorgaso how do I get past https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-central/+bug/50784214:32
ubottuUbuntu bug 507842 in python-central "Does not honor XS-Python-Version if debian/control contains a empty line before the Source: line" [Medium,Fix released]14:32
alex_mayorgamy last upgrade gave me "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."14:33
alex_mayorgado I just run that and it'll fix itself?14:33
zinoxthere is any howto to help me install this video card >> ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] in ubuntu 10.04 ??14:37
zinoxi would like to use fglrx driver14:38
semitones ok, non hypothetical situation: I need to crop and resize a picture to use as a profile picture in Buzz -- what program do I use that comes installed by default on Lucid?14:46
BUGabundo_remotesemitones: fspot, gimp, nautilus-image, anything else from cli ?14:47
marienziirc gimp's no longer installed by default (although I'm not sure why you have that requirement)14:48
marienzwhat's nautilus-image?14:48
BUGabundo_remotemarienz: does it *really* mind what comes or not by default?14:49
marienzah, that can't crop iiuc. I'd just use gimp, but meh.14:49
marienzBUGabundo_remote: I don't think so, no.14:49
BUGabundo_remotedefault system is unusable for me14:49
semitonesmarienz, I just wonder what new users will use to do this14:49
BUGabundo_remotesemitones: they will open Software Center, search for image and install one14:49
marienzsemitones: I'd guess f-spot14:49
marienzor that.14:49
BUGabundo_remotewhy complicate what's NOT complicated?14:49
semitonesBUGabundo_remote, nah they woudn't do that14:49
BUGabundo_remotethat's the 3rd thing I teach my students14:49
BUGabundo_remoteeven my fatehr does that!14:50
semitonesmarienz, alright, I'll try fspot-- I always thought it was for *managing* photos14:50
BUGabundo_remoteand he is computer iletared14:50
semitoneslike a photo album14:50
* CardinalFang likes "iletared", like it's a verb. After the iletaring, he was never the same.14:52
semitonesis fspot lightweight14:59
CardinalFangsemitones, it's not too bad.15:00
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crimsunsyn-ack: please see bug 40406415:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 404064 in linux "KMS error message while intializing modesetting (during boot and resume) - render error detected, EIR: 0x00000010 [i915]" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40406415:29
scotdwill lucid have glibc or eglibc?15:36
BUGabundo_remotebug 51985515:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 519855 in udev "update-initramfs fails: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh does not exist" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51985515:43
Damascenehello, yesterday netbook launcher wasn't working and there was nothing under the top panel and today after updating the left panel keep blinking all the time and no way to use it15:44
Milos_SDI got that bug too now15:48
Milos_SDI updated udev :)15:48
kklimondadamn, every day my lucid seems to boot a bit slower - I was already close to 15 seonds and now I'm back to 20..15:49
kklimondascotd, eglibc15:49
Milos_SDhow can I fix udev issue?15:57
Milos_SDcan I force version to the previouse one?15:57
Milos_SDI fixed the udev issue :)16:03
petsoundshi. does anybody know why i get error msg when updating? thanks16:23
petsounds" E: Couldn't configure pre-depend virtuoso-opensource-6.0-bin for virtuoso-opensource-6.0, probably a dependency cycle "16:23
scotdkklimonda: thanks!16:50
Torchlooks like i got an update to kernel 2.6.32-1217:15
Torchupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-generic17:15
Torchcpio: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh: Cannot stat: No such file or directory17:15
Torchupdate-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-generic17:15
Torchwhat do i do?17:15
zniavreTorch,  this worked for me >http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=2517:17
zniavrewhat is new tooltip style from libgtk ?17:17
Torchzniavre: thanks, sounds sensible17:18
CosmiChaosI did the workaround to get bootlogo with nouveau on plymouth, since latest updates now synaptic imminently forces me to do sudo dpkg --configure -a, what i did what announces: update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-preempt17:27
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, the exact same thing happens here, got a fix?17:28
CosmiChaosi excatly did this nine steps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/509328 Comment #317:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 509328 in plymouth "Lucid Alpha2: Plymouth does not work with the current nvidia driver (dup-of: 506717)" [Medium,Confirmed]17:29
ubottuUbuntu bug 506717 in plymouth "[Lucid] plymouth does not display when using nvidia drivers" [High,Fix released]17:29
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, well i just hit few seconds ago by myself17:29
CosmiChaoshmm sooooo well reverse engineer it i will have a try17:30
dupondjeis the bug of the gdm not starting correctly also fixed ? cause I still have a corrupt screen when booted17:30
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, thanks, I'll check it out17:30
alex_mayorgadupondje, I guess not, mine is also borked :(17:31
dupondjealex_mayorga: you know if there is some bugreport around ?17:32
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, especially step 2 might be a huge problem17:33
alex_mayorgadupondje: not really17:33
CosmiChaosattention to the correct line again alex_mayorga17:33
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, I see that the bug is a duplicate now17:34
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, step one is definetly not a problem17:34
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, yep but at least the workaround worked ;)17:35
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, fair enough, in any case I wouldn't get the fixes as this messes up aptitude right?17:37
CosmiChaosset the commentations right in 3 files, remove line 104 of the conf script, then sudo update-grub ; sudo update-initramfs -u ; reboot and try the sudo dpgk-reconfiger -a17:38
CosmiChaosor wait till i tried now17:38
CosmiChaos$ sudo update-initramfs -uupdate-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-12-preempt ; cpio: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh: Funktion stat fehlgeschlagen: No such file or directory17:39
CosmiChaosnow i have no idea left ....17:40
dupondjeError: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 185.18.31, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 185.18.36.  Please make sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.17:40
dupondjeany idea ?17:40
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=2517:40
CosmiChaosdupondje, does nvidia-support your card?17:41
dupondjeguess so ...17:41
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos: saw that earlier here, dunno if is the same think, my German is not as good17:41
dupondjeCosmiChaos: Kernel driver in use: nvidia17:43
dupondjeKernel modules: nvidia-current, nvidiafb17:43
dupondjeseems so17:43
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, did you already undo the workaround for the bootlogo?17:44
bjsniderdupondje, runt he command dkms status17:45
* alex_mayorga is sitting in a corner scared17:45
dupondjebjsnider: nvidia-current, 190.53, 2.6.32-12-generic, x86_64: installed17:45
bjsniderhave you used nvidia's installer in the past?17:46
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, I'm trying to solve "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." first17:46
CosmiChaosnvidia-current, 195.36.03, 2.6.32-12-preempt, x86_64: installed  is what i got17:46
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, yeah just run that after the fix you told me ;)17:46
dupondjebjsnider: nope, but seems like the logs are not up-to-date, removed, will reboot and see if I get it again17:46
CosmiChaosand then try snaptic again17:47
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos: baby steps, please?17:47
CosmiChaosalex_mayorga, follow that instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8804856&postcount=25, sclose synaptic, run "sudo dpkg --configure -a", start synaptic17:48
CosmiChaosthe instructions tell: "sudo gedit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev" go to script #50 and change the marked line by removing .sh17:50
CosmiChaosit may be a bit scary with nano ;)17:50
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, thanks, let me give that a try17:52
alex_mayorgaCosmiChaos, updates are working again, thanks!17:53
CosmiChaosyep what about your bootlogo?17:54
alex_mayorgaafter lunch I guess :)17:54
jdobrienwhere in launchpad should I report bugs for lucid? I got a "Broken Pipe" message when running the install, but it seems to be working ok18:24
arandjdobrien: just mention that it's ssen on lucid, is that when starting or when running the installer itself (ubiquity)?18:31
jdobrienarand, it's while booting from the CD image18:32
arandYea, just boot messages, I don't know if that's the kernel, plymouth or gdm, but it's common though...18:33
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alex_mayorgadoes butterfly-telepathy crashes every other minute for anyone else?20:03
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yofelyay, kde 4.4.00 :D20:15
oxymoronLucid Lynx users/developers, what can I expect from it in the future stable release? :P20:15
BookmanAnyone know if the Wicd/Ubuntu 10.04 bug has been addressed?20:21
JoshuaLBookman, tried a search on the bug tracker?20:22
BookmanJoshuaL, I've not had much luck in the past using launchpad.  Very slow and error prone.20:25
BookmanLike right now, error.20:25
yofelBookman: which page?20:26
JoshuaLah yeah me too20:26
sburwoodanyone seen lucid?20:26
Bookmanyofel, just a search response to "Wicd"20:26
BookmanHappens all the time20:26
yofelhm, tried 'edge.launchpad.net' ?20:26
BookmanNope, just launchpad.net and gave up.20:27
sburwoodI have an old P4 2.4G20:28
sburwoodI hope it'll work on my computer20:28
yofelsburwood: you could try a daily live disk and find out ;)20:28
yofeldon't expect it to work though20:29
sburwoodyofel: where do I find that?20:29
yofel!daily | sburwood20:29
ubottusburwood: Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/20:29
BookmanI find this whole bug reporting thing very, very confusing and hard to track/follow.  I gave up yesterday trying to post a bug.20:29
yofelsburwood: you'll want the daily-live disk20:30
yofelBookman: generally, if you have problems with launchpad you should ask in #launchpad20:30
yofelBookman: if you have problems with the bug reporting process ask in #ubuntu-bugs20:31
sburwoodyofel: why shouln t I expect it to work?20:31
Bookmanyofel, you had a problem yesterday with Wicd, no?20:31
yofelsburwood: we get dozens of new packages every day, some work some don't and you won't know until someone tries it20:31
yofelsburwood: kubuntu lucid works fine for me so far, but plymouth has grave issues with the proprietare nvidia driver for example20:32
yofelBookman: I use Network Manager20:32
sburwoodyofel: I use nvidia, so that interests me20:33
sburwoodI m a bit of a n00b20:33
alex_mayorgawhat do you use to read SMS from your phone via bluetooth?20:35
alex_mayorgasomething more a bit more complete than gnome-phone-manager maybe?20:45
shushekhello friends', i tried 10.04 yesterday.. but wasnt able to login after the installation..20:50
shushekcan anyone advice.. i know it is still in testing20:50
alex_mayorgashushek, why couldn't you login?20:51
shushekthe whole screen was all blank, cant see anything after the logo..20:52
shusheki even tried goin into the terminal, but cant see anything there as well but only some faded colors like its not taking my graphics20:53
shusheki didnt did a clean installation but it was an upgrade to 9.1020:53
Bookmanyofel, well, going to #launchpad is useless....hmm how to report a bug about a bug reporting system?20:54
alex_mayorgaBookman, isn't there a link to file a bug in launchpad itself somewhere?20:55
alex_mayorgaBookman, try https://edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug20:55
alex_mayorgaso is there a tool that would let me see, delete SMSs messages on my cell using bluetooth?20:57
arandalex_mayorga: wammu21:06
shushekalex_mayorg, can you advice something on my issue21:07
shushekif possible21:07
BookmanI give up!  Bug reporting/searching does not work.  Reporting the bug in the bug system does not work.  Reporthing that in the bug reporting irc does not work.  I'm exhausted trying to help out!21:09
alex_mayorgaarand: thanks, will check it out21:10
mzuverinkHow to rid system of brown  ubuntu slider logo on start up?21:10
alex_mayorgadoes evolution supports SMS management?21:10
mzuverinkis it possible to go back to the post 9.10 gdm login manager w/ a choice in 9.10?21:12
yofelBookman: as I said, if you need help with reporting bugs please go to #ubuntu-bugs, the experts are there21:14
yofelhi BUGabundo21:14
BUGabundolost my audio in this session21:14
BUGabundowahts thsat comand that crimsun always says to restart it ?21:15
BUGabundohey yofel?21:15
BUGabundobuzzing yet ?21:15
BUGabundohey cool you can drag and detach and later reatach a tab from pidgin :D WIN21:16
yofelI'm just installing kde 4.4 final and then  try to reboot my eeePC after a week ^^21:16
BUGabundookay, udev bug fixed!21:17
BUGabundoits safe to reboot :D21:17
* BUGabundo trys to recall the darn pulseaudio restart command 21:17
virtualdbugabundo: isn't it just killall pulseaudio and it'll respawn automatically?21:18
BUGabundobut its dead already :/21:18
BUGabundo$ ps auxw  | grep pul21:18
BUGabundo1000     17545  0.0  0.0   7404   924 pts/0    R+   21:18   0:00 grep --color=auto pul21:18
virtualdyou forgot the colors :p21:19
alex_mayorgathose --color thingies, are they going to be ignored by grep in the near future?21:20
BUGabundoI hope not21:20
* BUGabundo likes the color21:20
* yofel too21:21
BUGabundo$ start-pulseaudio-x1121:21
BUGabundoConnection failure: Connection refused21:21
BUGabundopa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused21:21
BUGabundocrimsun: ^^^^^^^^^^21:21
virtualddoesn't pulseaudio -d -vvvv work?21:23
virtualdi meant run it in the foreground i hope that does it21:23
BUGabundo$ pulseaudio -d -vvvv21:24
BUGabundopulseaudio: invalid option -- 'd'21:24
BUGabundoE: main.c: Failed to parse command line.21:24
alex_mayorgaBUGabundo, I like the color too, just I don't like the extra line messing my grep results21:25
BUGabundoalex_mayorga: alias grep to awk it out21:25
alex_mayorgaspecially if you're shell scripting or somehow use them21:25
kklimondaBUGabundo, it's either --daemonize=false or -D (depending on whenever you want to run it in forerground or not - not sure which is default)21:26
BUGabundovirtuald: it does start, but all I get is dummy channel21:26
virtualdwhat do you mean, it can't find or doesn't use your sound card?21:27
BUGabundoI mean it needs a reboot21:29
BUGabundonow I wonder if there's a away to "reboot" all sound system _without_ restart my laptop21:29
virtualdyou could try rmmod-ing all sound modules21:30
virtualdand maybe restart alsa-base21:31
virtualdmaybe it's alsa-mixer-save now and not alsa-base and probably not needed21:31
BUGabundohey Amaranth21:32
yofelok, reboot worked :)21:38
metricpianois there an evolution mail room?  my #IRC list isn't coming up21:43
JFoBUGabundo, I see you had some issues in bug 39121521:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391215 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "vga=791 kernel line option breaks tty consoles" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39121521:45
JFohave you had the same issues with Lucid?21:45
BUGabundoJFo: haven't tried it21:46
BUGabundoand now that I use nouveu I already have that!21:46
FanfareQ: How to suggest rosegarden (music) 10 for Lucid?21:55
kklimondaFanfare, what do you mean by suggest? update to the nwere version?21:58
Fanfarekklimonda: yes, i see 1.7.3 in the official repo, but there is a 10.0 beta 2 out, Which is a kde4 rewrite of rosegarden...21:59
kklimondaFanfare, but it's still beta - will it get released before march 11?22:00
Fanfarehm, good question...22:00
RAOFOr, more pertinent, before Feb 18th, which is feature freeze.22:00
FanfareThe final release will take place in February 2010.22:00
kklimondaFanfare, the featurefreeze is 18th february and at least beta should be uploaded till then22:00
nigelbabucan someone tell me at what point they see this message? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39017101/Bildschirmfoto.png22:02
nigelbabuits in german, in english its supposed to say "Set display settings"22:02
kklimondanigelbabu, I've never seen this message :)22:02
nigelbabukklimonda, oh22:03
kklimondaFanfare, I'm not sure if you are going to find someone interested in getting package updated till 18th. So unless you are willing to help (in which case you should join #ubuntu-motu and ask for comments) the chance of getting new release into lucid is slim22:05
virtualdi've only seen something like that as a pop up from the Display settings icon when I've activated that22:05
kklimondaI guess it makes sense - till now I've never used this tool as it doesn't support nvidia drivers22:06
kklimondanigelbabu, as virtuald said it comes from Display settings icon22:06
FanfareI wonder if the Ubuntu-Studio ppl are not interested therein...22:06
nigelbabuthanks virtuald and kklimonda :)22:07
Fanfarebut i can TRY to help too...22:07
Guest94638I see that usplash is in universe in lucid, is it going to be replaced by another tool?22:11
arandGuest94638: Plymouth afaik22:11
kklimondayes, plymouth it is22:12
metricpianoTrying to use kMyMoney and I need a KDE settings manager to change the date format.  Since kMyMoney won't work on KDE4 I need to install KDE3 and I want to verify that this is correct: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde3 for a KDE3 that will work under Ubuntu 10.4?22:14
kklimondametricpiano, you will need some 3rd party repository for that22:15
kklimondametricpiano, and at least for now the PPA that was used with karmic and previous releases doesn't have packages for lucid.22:16
metricpianowill lucid have it by the time it's released?22:17
BluesKajmetricpiano, why do you say  kMyMoney won't run on kde4?22:17
kklimondametricpiano, most likely22:18
BluesKajit's available in the repos22:18
metricpianoinfo from ipwizard the kmymoney project admin22:19
metricpianosaid it wouldn't work22:19
Ngis anyone else's update-initramfs exploding?22:51
RAOFNg: Yes, that's bug 51985522:55
yofelNg: somewhat about missing firmware.sh?22:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 519855 in udev "update-initramfs fails: ./lib/udev/firmware.sh does not exist" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51985522:55
Ngyep :)22:57
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dupondjewill the grub2 in Lucid support dmraid ?23:09
EagleScreendupondje: you may ask in #grub23:10
EagleScreenask for the version supperting it and check if it is in lucid23:11
* maxb boots a lucid partition for the first time in several weeks23:15
* maxb upgrades 501 packages :-)23:15
BUGabundothat's nothing23:15
BUGabundowait until 200 of those break23:15
BUGabundowb BluesKaj23:15
BluesKajhey BUGabundo , been semi successful with wicd on the ralink usb adapter on the desktop.Strange thing is only parts of pages are loading23:17
BluesKajan idea why that would be ?23:18
BUGabundonever used wicd23:19
BluesKaji'm on the laptop right now because irc seems to take over 5 mins to connect23:20
BluesKajon the desktop23:20
BluesKajnm doesn't cut it on lucid23:22
Bookman_It seems that the Wicd Ubuntu 10.04 is solved!23:31
BluesKajmaybe for him it is ...of course he didn't stick around to wait for any reaction:)23:41
crimsunvirtuald: /etc/init/alsa-mixer-save.conf is an upstart job that I wrote that does precisely what its filename implies. It has nothing to do with unloading alsa driver modules; that's the function of the /sbin/alsa script.23:42
BluesKajwicd isn't working on my pc , it's just cached web data that's loading in the browser, the router indicates the desktop pc is not connected, altho wicd shows 80%23:44
crimsunBUGabundo: /usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 no longer explictily invokes the daemon. Therefore, if you have autospawn disabled, you'll need to remove that change (and reenable autospawn).23:44
virtualdthis new stuff is so confusing23:46
BUGabundocrimsun: please remember me where are the autospawn off ?23:47
crimsunvirtuald: if you consider "has been there since hardy" "new", ok...23:49
crimsunBUGabundo: either in /etc/client.conf or ~/.pulse/client.conf23:49
crimsunerr, /etc/pulse/client.conf23:49
BUGabundo; autospawn = yes23:50
BUGabundoso its default system crimsun23:50
BUGabundoFYI I had a session opened in mute, logoff, logon again, no sound since then23:51
virtualdi haven't had enough reason to poke around with alsa stuff and sysv init is old enough to still call this new. and sysv init at least had everything in one place (/etc)23:52
crimsunBUGabundo: if it isn't a user config, it sounds like some odd GNOME race; there isn't any reason that PA would _not_ autospawn23:53
virtualdshouldn't there be a man page for everything in /sbin?23:53
crimsunvirtuald: file a bug, write a man page, attach a patch23:53
virtualdi don't know tex, what can i use?23:54
crimsunvirtuald: also, it has not been used as a proper initscript since ... 5.1023:54
BUGabundocrimsun: is there a way to restart all audio stuff?23:55
virtuald(just don't expect me to really do it, i'll probably forget about it)23:55
crimsunBUGabundo: /sbin/alsa force-reload23:55
virtualdcrimsun: why not?23:56
crimsunvirtuald: because it's wrong. It /shouldn't/ be an initscript, which is why it no longer exists as one.23:57
crimsunvirtuald: namely, why do you need to invoke an /initscript/ to save or restore volumes?23:57
virtualdit still looks a lot like an init script to me23:58
crimsunvirtuald: nothing calls /sbin/alsa23:58
crimsunvirtuald: it's there purely for convenience, and I'm going to remove it post-LTS23:59

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