[17:09] <persia> nthykier: So, there's a new swt-gtk being synced from testing, and we've an eclipse that provides swt-gtk.
[17:09] <persia> But this causes a bit f a conflict.  Which should win?
[17:15] <nthykier> persia: next upload with eclipse ships without swt
[17:15] <nthykier> persia: sadly I do not have time right now (though I am available in a about 3-4 hours) - alternatively you can debate it with bdrung
[17:15] <persia> OK.  Should I authorise the sync now, and we can expect that upload in the next few days?
[17:15] <persia> bdrung: Please pipe up if you like :)
[17:16] <persia> nthykier: The sync is currently blocked.  Later is fine if bdrung doesn't answer.
[17:16] <nthykier> alright - later then
[17:16] <persia> Thanks for the quick response even when you're busy.
[17:18] <nthykier> late for class - the cold weather outside is not really motivating me
[17:20] <persia> heh.
[17:28] <bdrung> persia: i am here. eclipse in lucid does not provide the swt libs any more. so we need the swt-gtk source package again.
[17:29] <bdrung> persia: but the version of swt-gtk must be bumped
[17:29] <persia> bdrung: That information conflicts with what I was just told by an archive-admin.
[17:29] <persia> Specifically, the sync is failing into lucid *because* eclipse is providing the binaries.
[17:30] <bdrung> persia: eclipse 3.5.1+repack~3-0ubuntu1 provides the swt libs, 3.5.1+repack~3-0ubuntu2 does not.
[17:30] <persia> check #ubuntu-devel from :08 to :15
[17:31] <persia> Well, that's confusing.
[17:31]  * persia checks a few other places
[17:32] <persia> Bother, and those are in NBS.  Gotcha.  Thanks.
[17:32] <persia> I'll file a bug to unblock the sync and sort it.
[17:32] <bdrung> persia: we need to bump the swt-gtk version >> 3.5.1+repack~3-0ubuntu1
[17:34] <persia> So it's not a sync, and we need to upload swt-gtk 3.5.1-2 as swt-gtk 2.5.1+standard-0ubuntu1 ?
[17:39] <bdrung> persia: 3.5.1+standard-0ubuntu1. or replace standard with something meaningful.
[17:39] <persia> "standard" was just the first string >> "repack" that came to mind.  Do you have any suggestions?
[17:40] <bdrung> persia: repack would works, to
[17:40] <bdrung> s
[17:40] <bdrung> o
[17:40] <bdrung> persia: repack would work, too
[17:40] <persia> Except it is no longer a repack :)
[17:41] <bdrung> nthykier: can you remember a good name for the swt-gtk version?
[17:42] <persia> He's at class now :)
[17:42] <bdrung> persia: there was a name starting with s, but i can't remember it
[17:43] <persia> Alright.  I can wait a few hours before uploading it and getting it unblacklisted.
[17:43] <bdrung> persia: how about +versionbump?
[17:43] <persia> heh.  works for me.  Shall I just upload with that?
[17:43] <bdrung> persia: yes
[17:44] <bdrung> persia: 3.5.1+versionbump-0build1
[17:44] <persia> Why -0build1?
[17:44] <bdrung> persia: therefore it will get synced once the debian version is greater
[17:45] <persia> And that means I don't need to mangle debian/control.  I'll go with it.
[17:45] <bdrung> persia: we use buildX for rebuilding and fakesyncs. so why not for versionbumps?
[17:45] <persia> We don't use buildX for fakesyncs (or we shouldn't be doing that)
[17:45] <bdrung> persia: how will you do the fakesync then?
[17:46] <bdrung> persia: do you really want to edit debian/control for fakesyncs?
[17:46] <persia> I tend to use -0ubuntu1 for fakesyncs.
[17:46] <bdrung> persia: -0?
[17:47] <persia> Err, no.
[17:47] <persia> XubuntuY
[17:47] <bdrung> k
[17:47] <persia> The reason being that I can't sync -{X+1}
[17:47] <bdrung> persia: Xubuntu1
[17:47] <persia> I need to wait for the next upstream.
[17:47] <persia> Right.
[17:48] <persia> I also want to preserve the Ubuntu debian/changelog entries so that it's clear who should get the complaints about creating the unsyncable tarball.
[17:48] <bdrung> if dpkg --compare-versions 1build1 lt 1+1; then echo yes; fi
[17:48] <persia> ${X+1} is "2" when X is "1".
[17:48] <persia> (at least in my head, for which there is admittedly little documentation)
[17:49] <bdrung> ups, yes
[17:49] <bdrung> :)
[17:52]  * persia cringes at xulrunner-dev
[18:07] <persia> bdrung: nthykier: version-bumped swt-gtk uploaded.
[18:11] <bdrung> k
[20:52] <nthykier> persia: thanks
[20:54] <persia> nthykier: No problem.  AnAnt was asking me about it earlier, but I hadn't been following the eclipse stuff closely, so I had no idea what was the right thing to do, and somehow ended up with my name against the blacklist, so had to clear it.
[20:54] <persia> Thanks for helping to get me to understand what was needed.
[20:55] <nthykier> persia: a large hammer, a lot of muscle and even more patience :P
[20:59] <persia> heh