| godbyk | Hey, humphreybc's alive! | 05:30 |
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| humphreybc | i am! | 05:31 |
| humphreybc | sorry had to change internet plans so internet was down for a few days | 05:31 |
| humphreybc | how's everything going? | 05:31 |
| godbyk | not too bad. I've spent most the day playing with my new Nexus One phone. | 05:31 |
| godbyk | are there any major formatting things that need to be done before the alpha release? | 05:32 |
| humphreybc | not really, alpha is today isn't it? | 05:39 |
| humphreybc | technically whatever we have now becomes alpha | 05:39 |
| humphreybc | i think just clean anything up to "release" standard. but it's only alpha so not a biggie | 05:39 |
| humphreybc | we'll probably have a meeting this weekend to sort out the learning day and other stuff | 05:39 |
| humphreybc | oh and our goals for beta | 05:39 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: What needs to be done to 'release' alpha? | 05:41 |
| humphreybc | not a lot. tonight i'll just build the latest revision and stick it on our launchpad download thing | 05:41 |
| humphreybc | that should suffice for a "release" | 05:41 |
| humphreybc | i'll also email some media and tell them of the release | 05:41 |
| godbyk | I guess I'd better update the cover page real quick then. :-) | 05:42 |
| humphreybc | sure | 05:42 |
| humphreybc | what with? | 05:42 |
| humphreybc | or are you going to change the version to 0.3 alpha | 05:43 |
| godbyk | Yeah, there's a slightly modified version with the 0.3 alpha tag on it and the new title. | 05:43 |
| humphreybc | swell | 05:43 |
| humphreybc | yeah update that then | 05:43 |
| humphreybc | what have i missed the past couple of days anyway? | 05:44 |
| godbyk | Hmm.. not too much activity in the channel, I don't think. Let me look real quick. | 05:45 |
| godbyk | Yeah, nothing of note here that I can see. | 05:46 |
| humphreybc | cool | 05:52 |
| godbyk | Gah! It'd be nice if inkscape did a better job converting SVGs to PDFs. | 05:54 |
| godbyk | I may have to use the PNG for now (so it doesn't look so ugly). | 05:54 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Okay, It's using the new cover page now. You might try compiling it real quick to make sure there aren't any problems | 06:02 |
| humphreybc | sweet | 06:02 |
| godbyk | I haven't looked at it or anything -- just made sure it compiled. :-) | 06:04 |
| humphreybc | new title with that font looks terible | 06:24 |
| godbyk | I haven't looked at it. | 06:36 |
| godbyk | I don't think that's going to be the final title page anyway. | 06:36 |
| godbyk | Just another interim (with the right version # and date on it). | 06:36 |
| humphreybc | okay who's here? | 23:01 |
| dutchie | o/ | 23:01 |
| humphreybc | lol | 23:01 |
| dutchie | seamless transition | 23:02 |
| humphreybc | indeed | 23:02 |
| humphreybc | hmm | 23:02 |
| humphreybc | oh well i'll email the list | 23:02 |
| humphreybc | right well i'm going to get up and shower then grab some food. i'll be back in about an hour and i'll get some stuff done | 23:08 |
| dutchie | humphreybc: it's still today here... | 23:09 |
| humphreybc | hmm? | 23:09 |
| humphreybc | it's midday thursday here :D | 23:09 |
| dutchie | if you choose a timezone carefully, we can make the release on time | 23:09 |
| humphreybc | xD | 23:10 |
| humphreybc | we should totally time the manual release to the same hour as lucid | 23:10 |
| humphreybc | we'll have to create a website too... something like www.ubuntumanual.org | 23:11 |
| humphreybc | probably already taken | 23:11 |
| humphreybc | ah yes it is | 23:11 |
| humphreybc | http://ubuntumanual.com/ | 23:11 |
| humphreybc | ugh | 23:12 |
| humphreybc | bzr: ERROR: These branches have diverged. Use the missing command to see how. | 23:12 |
| humphreybc | Use the merge command to reconcile them. | 23:12 |
| dutchie | this is why I prefer git :) | 23:13 |
| humphreybc | how do I remedy it? | 23:13 |
| dutchie | read the list | 23:13 |
| humphreybc | oh is that what they are talking about | 23:13 |
| dutchie | the message marked "PLEASE READ THIS NOTICE" :) | 23:13 |
| humphreybc | yep | 23:14 |
| humphreybc | got it | 23:14 |
| humphreybc | lol | 23:14 |
| humphreybc | godbyk - thorwil should contact you at some point today or tomorrow with a new title page | 23:14 |
| humphreybc | replace the current one with his one, then we can let the media go nuts | 23:14 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Okay. | 23:14 |
| humphreybc | oh cool you're actually there | 23:15 |
| godbyk | I am. :-) | 23:15 |
| godbyk | Just had to summon me. :) | 23:15 |
| humphreybc | swell. also, could you fix the URL wrap on the first page of the license? it's bugging me... | 23:16 |
| humphreybc | :D | 23:16 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Anything for you! | 23:17 |
| humphreybc | haha | 23:17 |
| humphreybc | i'm talking to jono bacon tomorrow over skype | 23:17 |
| humphreybc | (ubuntu community manager) | 23:17 |
| dutchie | I don't think you needed to clarify that | 23:17 |
| dutchie | everyone knows who jono is \o/ | 23:17 |
| humphreybc | i'm not sure kevin does | 23:17 |
| dutchie | he even eclipses all the other jonos | 23:18 |
| humphreybc | do you godbyk? | 23:18 |
| godbyk | I know who Jono is, yeah. | 23:18 |
| humphreybc | anyway, what are the main things from the backend that i need to tell him? | 23:18 |
| humphreybc | what can we output to besides pdf? | 23:19 |
| humphreybc | are translations automated yet? | 23:20 |
| dutchie | you can build them independently | 23:20 |
| humphreybc | and does rosetta get updated automatically when we update the branch? | 23:21 |
| dutchie | if we update the pot file | 23:21 |
| dutchie | which I haven't done for a while | 23:21 |
| humphreybc | hmm okay | 23:21 |
| humphreybc | so that stuff about the strings getting overwritten, is that our fault or rosetta? | 23:21 |
| dutchie | probably more ours | 23:22 |
| dutchie | but mainly because quite a lot has been changing | 23:22 |
| humphreybc | okay | 23:22 |
| dutchie | hmm, po4a has decided not to work | 23:24 |
| godbyk | Right now it's PDF only for output. | 23:24 |
| godbyk | Translations are semi-automated. There's still a lot of work to go into them. | 23:24 |
| godbyk | Especially for non-Latin scripts. | 23:24 |
| humphreybc | okay cool. what outputs are we aiming to produce by the final? | 23:24 |
| godbyk | I'd say just PDF for now. | 23:25 |
| humphreybc | and is it possible to output to docbook or ASCII? | 23:25 |
| humphreybc | okay cool. roadmap for future outputs - HTML5? | 23:25 |
| godbyk | There is some TeX -> HTML conversion tools that we can play with, but I think that PDF should be the priority. | 23:25 |
| humphreybc | yep sweet | 23:25 |
| humphreybc | jono will want to know how we're going to integrate with other projects that use different tools | 23:26 |
| godbyk | What kind of integration? What other projects? | 23:26 |
| humphreybc | ubuntu learning is the main one, i think they use ascii | 23:27 |
| humphreybc | and possibly the docs project down the track which use docbook | 23:27 |
| godbyk | It seems to me that the ubuntu manual project has a fairly simple focus: to produce a great 'getting started' manual that can be printed (or purchased as a printed book). | 23:27 |
| humphreybc | yep but if we actually do produce something that's really cool, we want to be able to share it with other projects that are interested | 23:28 |
| humphreybc | because _good_ content is valuable :) | 23:28 |
| godbyk | I think someone overwrote or reverted some of my recent changes. | 23:30 |
| dutchie | why do useful things only ever happen late at night for me? | 23:30 |
| dutchie | :( | 23:30 |
| humphreybc | godbyk: oh no! | 23:31 |
| humphreybc | you can revert to previous revisions though | 23:31 |
| humphreybc | something like bzr revert 205 | 23:31 |
| godbyk | yeah, they weren't big changes.. just the cover page, I think. | 23:31 |
| humphreybc | where 205 is the revision number, obviously | 23:31 |
| godbyk | Let me see how far back things went. | 23:32 |
| godbyk | hmm.. weird. did I just not push or something? I don't see it listed in main branch. | 23:36 |
| godbyk | oh well, let me fix this and push again. | 23:36 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: Okay, I just pushed the title page update I had previously (not the one I'm waiting for thorwil on) and fixed the URL in the license. | 23:49 |
| godbyk | humphreybc: If you find any other bugs, feel free to ping me with them. | 23:49 |
| humphreybc | neat | 23:59 |
| humphreybc | yep i'm going to comb through the manual today and do a bit of a spit and polish | 23:59 |
| dutchie | OK, definitely time for bed | 23:59 |
| dutchie | night all | 23:59 |
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