[00:15] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: Correct, particularly since your key has a passphrase as well.
[00:16] <kermit> (2010-02-09 05:42:51) tonyyarusso: someone tell Takyoji to visit http://ubuntu-minnesota.org/openid later.
[00:17] <tonyyarusso> kermit: yeah...turns out that doesn't help him until I configure the mail server properly - whoops
[00:22] <marcos_> any of you particularly fantastic at openoffice?
[00:23] <_diablo> direct responses at me if you are :)
[00:24] <Takyoji> What would you need help with?
[00:24] <Takyoji> Otherwise I'd be willing to try to find the solution.
[00:25] <_diablo> Takyoji: well, I don't know if it's even a problem. I built the newest OO.o (3.1.1) from the downloaded debs and it looked great.
[00:26] <_diablo> but then I started it and it said it had problems with the JRE. It doesn't show the message again and it appears to be working fine
[00:38] <Takyoji> ahh
[00:39] <Takyoji> Sidenote: Anyone know how to port forward from a VirtualBox VM? (I know it's possible, I've done it before)
[00:43] <_diablo> Takyoji: sorry, no clue
[00:44] <_diablo> Takyoji: do you think there's anything wrong with my OO.o?
[00:44] <Takyoji> I wouldn't really be able to say. I'm not very Java-oriented
[00:50] <_diablo> Takyoji: fair enough :)
[00:54] <Takyoji> Note: Testing in a VM is much more stable.
[00:54] <Takyoji> I was doing a benchmark and the numbers come out more stable when I'm doing a benchmark in a stripped down VM
[00:55] <Takyoji> I feel pathetic that, as a Linux user, I don't entirely remember all the necessary parameters for extracting an archive by heart xP
[01:02] <_diablo> Takyoji: really? xvzf if it's a gz, xvjf if it's bz
[01:02] <_diablo> you've been in a gui too long lol
[01:25] <Takyoji> ahh
[01:27] <Takyoji> Been quite a while since I've done any PHP..
[01:34]  * Takyoji wonders if tonyyarusso has done anything of the mailserver yet
[01:45] <mr_steve> hey folks, how's it going?
[01:46] <Takyoji> Average, normal, and unexciting. :P
[01:48] <Takyoji> Woo, more fun http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/02/microsoft-warns-of-tslssl-flaw-in-windows.ars
[02:42] <mr_steve> vimperator is awesome
[02:45] <Takyoji> heh, interesting
[02:45] <Takyoji> Firefox addon, yes?
[02:46] <Takyoji> Anyone ever do any GUI-based development?
[02:48] <mr_steve> Takyoji, yes, a firefox addon. And yes, I've done some stuff in Python with Gtk
[02:51] <Takyoji> Because I'd be curious of doing pretty much exactly that; but am a little unfamiliar with how to build dialogs and so on; since it seems that they use relative sizing rather than fixed
[02:52] <mr_steve> Right, that takes a bit of getting used to. I came from VB, so WxWidgets and Gtk were both a bit different for me
[02:52] <mr_steve> Once you start thinking about your UI windows in terms of rows/columns it starts to be pretty natural
[02:53] <Takyoji> Yea, that's just all I really need to understand
[02:53] <Takyoji> based upon my observations
[02:55] <mr_steve> You can check out launchpad.net/~taskstacker for a very simple UI example, I wrote it as an exersise in Gnome app development
[02:55] <mr_steve> err, that's not the right URL
[02:55] <Takyoji> tasktracker, or?
[02:57] <mr_steve> https://launchpad.net/taskstacker
[02:57] <mr_steve> It's a really really stupid task list program I wrote
[02:57] <Takyoji> ahh
[02:57] <mr_steve> For practice with Gtk, Gnome, Bazaar, Launchpad, etc
[02:58] <Takyoji> ahh
[02:58] <Takyoji> And then I take it, and revolutionize it, then it becomes the next most popular application. :P
[02:58] <mr_steve> Oddly, it somehow ended up in some free software directory
[02:59] <mr_steve> Some editor actualy took the time to download it, install it, and take a screenshot of it
[02:59] <Takyoji> heh interesting
[03:00] <mr_steve> Yeah, not more than a day after I uploaded the first release tarball I got an email that it was accepted into some software directory
[03:00] <Takyoji> heh
[03:01] <Takyoji> No deb package? :o
[03:01] <mr_steve> Actually there is, in my ppa
[03:45] <Takyoji> Anyone else agree that it's kind of a step back that the Ubuntu Software Centre doesn't have checkboxes to check off what software you want installed?
[03:46] <Obsidian1723> yes.
[03:49] <Takyoji> But at the same time a person could of course use the Synaptic Package Manager
[03:49] <Takyoji> I'm curious on how they intend to merge the two..
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: oh god yes - it takes forever to install more than one thing...
[03:53] <Takyoji> Start a petition then over the annoyance? :P
[03:55] <Takyoji> It should be voiced in some fashion though
[03:56] <mr_steve> Ubuntu's Brainstorm?
[03:59] <mr_steve> Heh I submitted an idea to brainstorm a while back, and now I can't even remember what it was
[04:09] <Obsidian1723> Ever since 9.04, Ubuntu has gone downhill.
[04:09] <Obsidian1723> Ubuntu One, Software Center, the Ubuntu "Vista" is 9.10, mono, and grub2
[04:13] <Takyoji> I haven't had much issue with GRUB2
[04:14] <Obsidian1723> sucks compared to v1
[04:14] <Takyoji> In what aspect though?
[04:15] <Takyoji> Configuration, or?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> It lacks some config options, but those will be back soon enough.
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> hey Takyoji, I think the mailing is working again - *now* trying sending yourself a new password :)
[04:16] <Obsidian1723> just how messy it is underneath the hood compared to grub 1. It's a personal preferences thing.
[04:16] <Takyoji> GDM has also been a step back as well (in terms of customization)
[04:16] <Takyoji> ahh
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> also, tell me what address it comes from...
[04:16] <Obsidian1723> yeah, not too hip on GDM 3 either.
[04:16] <Obsidian1723> If this keeps up, I may have to dump Ubuntu and go to Debian or Gentoo.
[04:17] <Takyoji> no-reply@ubuntu-minnesota.org
[04:18] <Takyoji> But over all, it's all new technologies; over time they should be properly refined
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> yay!
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> now let me know if you can log in :)
[04:20] <Takyoji> Yes, from a temporary link
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> good, good
[04:22] <Takyoji> however I can't modify what OpenID identities are related with my account, nor the account password
[04:23]  * Takyoji pokes tonyyarusso
[04:26]  * tonyyarusso needs screenshots
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> aww, when did our heading get uncentered?
[04:28] <Takyoji> Since the edit
[04:28] <Takyoji> It's a general 'unauthorized' Drupal error
[04:29]  * tonyyarusso has a theory
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: still logged in?
[04:29] <Takyoji> Yes
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> 'k
[04:30] <Takyoji>  /user/me/openid
[04:31] <Takyoji> Now I'm able to access it
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> ho ho
[04:31] <tonyyarusso> Apparently the 'me' aliases module has some quirks.
[04:31] <Takyoji> and successfully added
[04:31] <Takyoji> ahh
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> someone added a negative margin on it for some reason
[04:43] <Takyoji> Awkward
[04:44] <Takyoji> I'll be leaving for the night
[04:52] <Takyoji> Ahh yes, such luxury. Login to my desktop over FreeNX and make it Suspend. Then access ny DAAP share on another system to listen to song I haven't heard in a while. All while I'm laying in bed lazily.
[15:47] <Obsidian1723> ame This is worth a download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/914191/Computer-Hardware-High-Resolution-24w-x-34h.png
[15:47]  * Obsidian1723 This is worth a download: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/914191/Computer-Hardware-High-Resolution-24w-x-34h.png
[15:58] <mr_steve> I used to have that printed out at work for identifying all the random junk laying around
[16:16] <Obsidian1723> good stuff .. I have tons of things like that.
[19:00] <kermit> why does it have 168 pin memory twice?
[19:16] <mr_steve> Wow firefox didn't handle that well at all
[19:18] <kermit> mine did
[19:19] <mr_steve> Looked like it had 168 pin and then 168 pin PC100, for some reason
[23:35] <Takyoji> Any thoughts on the "We're Linux" contest again?
[23:44] <Takyoji> Seems we only have one individual claiming to be away.
[23:44] <Takyoji> I wonder how many others here actually read the contents of this channel, or just still have it set to auto-join without really much acknowledgement. :P
[23:46] <tonyyarusso> Actually, I believe everyone in here has spoken in the last two weeks (with the exception of ChanServ, locobot_5, ubot3, and ubuntulog of course)
[23:48] <_diablo> Takyoji, I'm here
[23:48] <_diablo> sorry, I don't know what that is.
[23:48] <_diablo> so I wasn't going to jump in and waste some more time lol
[23:49] <Takyoji> I wasn't implying it in terms of being annoyed, I was just implying that I don't notice some users mentioning anything is all
[23:49] <_diablo> ah, fair enough
[23:51] <Takyoji> _diablo: http://video.linuxfoundation.org/contest/we-are-linux-superbowl-ad-contest
[23:52] <_diablo> lol
[23:52] <_diablo> that's expensive
[23:52] <Takyoji> I realized the same. :P
[23:53] <Takyoji> But I have a feeling if someone does make a commercial that just makes us weep in the beauty of it; there might be a couple of companies that might fund such together; who knows. :P
[23:54] <_diablo> fair enough
[23:54] <Takyoji> Now come on folks, let's make that video!
[23:54] <Takyoji> :P
[23:54] <_diablo> ...