[00:01] <nickie> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351   i'm looking at this thread, and the value i get for 'find /boot/grub/stage1' = (hd0,1). i typed 'root (hd0,1)' and then 'setup (hd0)'. this will find my windows partition as well?
[00:02] <jazz> Jordan_U,  so then how do i boot to the drive my new ubuntu is on?
[00:02] <Magnesium> !ops |Zippo|
[00:02] <Jordan_U> nickie, It will use the same menu.list file, so if the partition number for windows hasn't changed the menu should work just as before.
[00:02] <kelopez> halp!
[00:03] <jazz> Jordan_U,  thats what im after...if i unplugg my other 2  drives grub  wont see them
[00:03] <CShadowRun> !ops | |Zippo|
[00:03] <kelopez> well
[00:03] <Magnesium> !ops
[00:03] <naut> Magnesium: already been dealt with
[00:04] <kelopez> how do I create a swap partition after I installed [K]Ubuntu?
[00:04] <Magnesium> naut: He's still joining and quitting repeatedly
[00:04] <Magnesium> naut: kinda annoying
[00:04] <Jordan_U> jazz, So you want the entries for the other install to not go away again after you run update-grub? If not then I don't understand your queston.
[00:04] <kelopez> !help
[00:04] <kelopez> how do I create a swap partition after I installed [K]Ubuntu?
[00:04] <Gorash> howdy people!! I need a quick help. I am going absolutely nuts here! I have a Logitech Optical keyboard and my qoutes show up like this: ¨¨ ¨¨". I have tried 150*50^5
[00:05] <Jordan_U> jazz, That is, after you run update-grub without the other drive plugged in
[00:05] <Gorash> settings.... any knows how to solve?
[00:05] <Magnesium> nvm, y'all must have kicked him already
[00:05] <naut> kelopez: you could use gparted to create the swap partition, and then edit fstab to mount it as swap on boot.
[00:05] <phazer11> grub doesn't see my Arch Linux partitions
[00:05] <nickie> phew! i was really stressed there for a minute......
[00:05] <kelopez> ok naut, thank you :)
[00:06] <naut> kelopez: doing it this way is not easy for a newbie, but you can learn a lot. this might be helpful in editing the fstab file: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[00:07] <kelopez> naut: well, I'm not a newble :P
[00:07] <naut> ok :)
[00:07] <kelopez> s/ble/bie
[00:07] <jazz> Jordan_U,  i think i get you. now
[00:07] <kelopez> btw, I'm using the amd64 version ;)
[00:08] <jazz> Jordan_U,  thanks -
[00:08] <Jordan_U> jazz, np
[00:11] <lsdluna> hi, I think I have installed subversion successfully, however when I use http://127.0.0.1/svn/project I received Revision 0: / ?
[00:11] <Guest56435> hello :D
[00:11] <kelopez> hallo Guest56435
[00:12] <Guest56435> :O
[00:12] <lsdluna> LinuxReign: are you still here? I have completed that tutorial
[00:12] <Guest56435> room nay dong ghe =))
[00:12] <KaOSoFt> Hello.
[00:12] <aMo_LuCk> hi
[00:12] <LinuxReign> i'm here, but @ the office, please gimme a moment
[00:13] <KaOSoFt> Do you happen to know what's the default root password of Ubuntu MySQL installation? I installed it through the package manager (Synaptic).
[00:14] <dfgh> Dual booting with win7 on a brand new laptop, and cpu temp is around 44 degrees C on win and 59 on ubuntu (115 fahr vs 138 fahr). Why is it so much higher on ubuntu?
[00:14] <KaOSoFt> I tried root, ubuntu, "empty", to no avail.
[00:14] <kitche> KaOSoFt have to make one
[00:14] <KaOSoFt> Oh.
[00:15] <jrib> KaOSoFt: it should tell you that when you install it on recent ubuntu versions
[00:17] <KaOSoFt> When is it supposed to tell me? I didn't see any advice. Let me check the Synaptic description.
[00:17] <jrib> KaOSoFt: it uses debconf.  What version of ubuntu is this?
[00:17] <KaOSoFt> 9.10
[00:18] <jrib> KaOSoFt: hrmm, maybe it only works in a terminal, I haven't used synaptic in a long time
[00:18] <KaOSoFt> Yeah, it must be.
[00:18] <KaOSoFt> I didn't really scroll up during installation, so I have no clue what commands did it run.
[00:18] <KaOSoFt> :s
[00:23] <sysdoc> I have had 9.10 installed for some time now through distro upgrades. Have a new and larger drive that I'd like to install 9.10 to but the installer hangs. This is on a Dell Vostro 200. Anyoone have a suggestion on how to get the install to work?
[00:24] <phazer11> HEy what is the program that Arch Uses for it's Remote Desktop
[00:24] <jrib> !verify | sysdoc
[00:24] <jrib> sysdoc: erm, did you run "check the cd for defects"?
[00:24] <Crash21081> How do I turn on my wireless 3G modem?  It's a software switch.
[00:24] <sysdoc> jrib yea I did
[00:25] <KaOSoFt> jrib- I read this nice article: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html
[00:25] <jrib> sysdoc: the live environment loads fine?
[00:25] <KaOSoFt> :D
[00:25] <sysdoc> jrib, no it won't load either
[00:25] <jrib> sysdoc: the only difference can't be the hard drive right?
[00:26] <jrib> KaOSoFt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Set%20mysql%20root%20password
[00:26] <jrib> KaOSoFt: you don't have to reset it since you never set it
[00:26] <sysdoc> jrib, I have checked the image, burnt many CD's and checked the CD's after, and all the tweaks that are available from the installer, and they all hang
[00:27] <jrib> sysdoc: you installed without issue on the same system with a different hard drive?
[00:28] <sysdoc> jrib, no the HD is already in the sys too, just have fedora on that disk that I'd like to format to the ext4 fs and install ubuntu to that drive
[00:28] <Kismet> hey guys i get the message "enter password for default keyring to unlock" form account manager every time my laptop resumes from hibernation
[00:28] <Aijse> sysdoc, and fedora still runs?
[00:28] <sysdoc> jrib, in essence moving my existing ubuntu install to the larger HD
[00:28] <jrib> sysdoc: I'd say just try the alternat cd
[00:28] <sysdoc> FC runs great Aijse
[00:29] <Kismet> how do i avoid that it pops up
[00:29] <celthunder> kismet disable the keyring
[00:29] <sysdoc> jrib, ah forgot about the alt cd
[00:29] <sysdoc> Will give that a try
[00:30] <Aijse> sysdoc, u sure cabling to the cd is ok?
[00:30] <Kismet> celthunder, how can i do that
[00:30] <unop> Kismet, is your keyring password the same as your login password?
[00:30] <Kismet> unop, i think so,.. i just have one i guess
[00:31] <sysdoc> One other thing... I have the /home on a separate partition on drive sdb can the installer still copy the existing home to the new drive and mount it?
[00:32] <sysdoc> Aijse, yea all is fine there too tried an external CD too...
[00:35] <skierkyle> Quick question... to start, Im a complete noob with with raid.. But I have setup a software raid 1 on  a new server install,  and what im wondering is if I mount an external hard drive, will it be synced to the other raid drive.
[00:36] <skierkyle> The raid is all of /
[00:36] <anon> hey guys..i am about to dump windows from my internal laptop drive and was wandering if I could just migrate my ubuntu over to my internal from my external HD..so i dont have to download anything all over again
[00:37] <anon> is there a way to do that or not?
[00:37] <simmaster> @skierkyle Well, if you copy from the external hard drive to the software RAID, it should sync between the RAID partitions
[00:37] <LasBuntu> where do I put an alias for root?
[00:37] <Jordan_U> skierkyle, No, mountpoints are just a path you can use to access another filesystem, mounting a filesystem to a mountpoint in / does not copy anything to the actual disk that / is mounted from
[00:38] <LasBuntu> I want to make sure I don't do something stupid like run irc as root :)
[00:38] <johntramp> hi i am after an app to draw a quick graph,  is there anything easy to use for this
[00:38] <Jordan_U> LasBuntu, The easiest way to do that is to never start a root shell
[00:38] <jrib> johntramp: what kind of graph?
[00:38] <skierkyle> simmaster: Ok, so if I just mount the drive in /media/whatever it wont sync between the internal RAID  drives?
[00:39] <LasBuntu> Jordan_U: true, but that's a bad habit I have not yet broken :)
[00:39] <Xqtftqx_> Hi does anybody know about sun-java6 in 10.04?
[00:39] <johntramp> jrib: plot points, fit a curve
[00:39] <simmaster> @skierkyle No
[00:39] <skierkyle> simmaster: Great thanks for the answer
[00:39] <simmaster> @anon You'd need to set up Syslinux on the external hard drive, copy the setup files, configure Syslinux and boot from there
[00:40] <jrib> johntramp: gnuplot, R, sage, octave, scilab, maxima...
[00:41] <anon> thanks..i will look into it..
[00:41] <Jordan_U> simmaster, Why would you use syslinux?
[00:41] <nad_> i need help getting ati graphic card drivers working
[00:42] <nad_> am i in the right place?
[00:42] <Jordan_U> simmaster, syslinux only works with fat32
[00:42] <simmaster> @Jordan_U: I'm thinking flash drives
[00:42] <johntramp> cool, thanks jrib
[00:43] <Jordan_U> anon, Did you use the standard Ubuntu installer to install to the external drive?
[00:43] <kgs> I need to transfer a large amount of files between two ubuntu computers on my network. What is the best way to do this?
[00:43] <juan__> hi guys... I just updated my laptop with ubuntu 9.10, and it still keeps the old kernel.... how can I change it to the now one
[00:43] <jsec> nad_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[00:43] <jrib> kgs: how large is "large"?
[00:43] <kgs> I tried to sftp into the machine, but put and get don't seem to allow the -R switch
[00:43] <kgs> jrib: About 40 GB
[00:43] <nad_> i followed the binary driver howto but i get unresolved issues
[00:43] <Jordan_U> juan__, Did you upgrade from grub legacy to grub2?
[00:44] <mikeconcepts>  trying to think of a way to use clonezilla on a netbook thumb drive using wireless network
[00:44] <jsec> nad_, what unresolved issues?
[00:44] <juan__> uname -r  (2.6.31-14-generic)
[00:44] <Kismet> hey guys... my automounting with ubuntu 9.10 dose not work anymore
[00:44] <Kismet> why?
[00:44] <anon> Jordan_U,  yes
[00:44] <Aijse> kismet ... automounting of waht?
[00:45] <Kismet> Aijse, usb drives which i plug in my usb port
[00:45] <juan__> Jordan I just installed grub2, and i see no changes
[00:45] <jrib> kgs: ssh is probably the easiest way, no idea on speed.  I guess your other options are mainly samba and nfs
[00:45] <nad_> unresolvable referance to symbol XauFileName
[00:45] <mikeconcepts> is there a distro that has wireless and clonezilla?
[00:45] <johntramp> wow all these websites for graphing apps don't look to be updated since the '90s
[00:45] <kgs> jrib: I tried to set up a shared file on one of the computers, but it fails. Something filepard or something...
[00:46] <Jordan_U> anon, Is the external drive larger or smaller than the internal?
[00:46] <kgs> I don't remember the exact error.
[00:46] <mikeconcepts> could clonezilla be installed on a ubuntu live usb?
[00:46] <jrib> kgs: hard for anyone to help if that's the case
[00:46] <anon> smaller...40g external 160g internal.
[00:46] <kgs> Hah.. true..
[00:46] <tessarakt2> damn
[00:46] <anon> Jordan_U,  smaller...40g external 160g internal.
[00:47] <tessarakt2> I'm too stupid for the alternate installer
[00:47] <nad_> jsec, unresolvable referance to XauFileName
[00:48] <jsec> nad_, ok, give me a moment here
[00:48] <nad_> jsec, Then a bunch of warnings, and it wont build the pkgs i need for the 64bit
[00:48] <Jordan_U> anon, I would boot into an Ubuntu LiveCD, use gparted to copy your Ubuntu partition to your internal drive, then re-install grub following these instructions: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[00:49] <jsec> nad_, which version of the ati driver are you trying to install?
[00:49] <Jordan_U> anon, Assuming that you don't have too much data on the external drive's filesystem for gparted to resize it to fit in the internal.
[00:49] <anon> Jordan_U,  ill check it out. im a linux newby but windows sucks so i wanna dump it and move to linux
[00:50] <sysdoc> anon, woot!
[00:50] <anon> Jordan_U,  i still have 27g left on a 40g drive and like 6g are movies
[00:50] <behappy> I have detached a screen by CTRL + A + D how to retrurn to this detached screen ?
[00:50] <nad_> jsec, the 64 bit, ati-driver-installer-10-1-x86.x86_64.run
[00:50] <jrib> behappy: screen -r
[00:50] <nad_> jsec, i got thru the howto
[00:51] <jsec> nad_, ok
[00:51] <tessarakt2> "If you get "Incorrect CD-ROM detected" error on detection stage, reboot, press F6 and then ESC to go to manual boot line editing, and add the option 'cdrom-detect/try-usb=true'. "
[00:51] <Jordan_U> behappy, screen -x
[00:51] <tessarakt2> works
[00:51] <nad_> jsec, when i use the admin hardware driver, i cant boot to desktop...
[00:51] <behappy> jrib: thank you ; what about when I have much screen ?
[00:51] <jrib> behappy: screen -ls to show them then specify which one you want to screen -r
[00:51] <Jordan_U> behappy, Didn't see that jrib had already answered, both -x and -r should work
[00:51] <nad_> jsec, had to swing my way thru newbie hell...
[00:52] <jsec> >_<
[00:52] <jsec> nad_, what kind of card do you have?
[00:52] <behappy> Jordan_U: thanks
[00:52] <Blue112> Hello.
[00:53] <Jordan_U> behappy, np
[00:53] <behappy> jrib: thanks
[00:53] <Blue112> I have trouble opening alsa-mixer, I can't configure my sound anymore... What can I do ?
[00:53] <nad_> jsec,i can tell you if you tell me how to find it...
[00:53] <anon> Jordan_U,  i may just restart from scratch..i reallly dont have much on here and it may be easier. was just kinda wanting to migrate for the knowledge purposes
[00:53] <anon> but for now i have a poker tourney to play in...
[00:54] <Aijse> nad_, in terminal lspci|grep VGA
[00:54] <Jordan_U> anon, The Ubuntu installer also has a migration assistant, it won't get installed apps and such but it should grab settings and documents IIRC
[00:54] <jazz> Jordan_U,  hello again. i know i installed the os on the drive but when i boot up to the drive only i get a boot disk failure insert system disk and press enter. is there something wrong that i did?
[00:54] <BluesKaj> Blue112, make sure you have alsa-utils and alsa-base installed
[00:55] <anon> Jordan_U, ill probably just use that then. thanks man.
[00:55] <Jordan_U> anon, np
[00:55] <jsec> nad_, for that sort of thing i use sysinfo
[00:55] <nad_> jsec, ati rv 710, Radeon hd 4550
[00:55] <anon> Jordan_U, if i use the migration assistant and AptonCD i should be able to get all it over right?
[00:56] <Kismet> hey guys... my automounting with ubuntu 9.10 dose not work anymore
[00:56] <jazz> is there a way to change tab "or rooms" with the keyboard? im using the mouse right now on xchat
[00:56] <Blue112> BluesKaj, alsa-utils wasn't installed, now it's done but alsamixer doesn't want to start up anyway.
[00:57] <jsec> nad_, i'm assuming you're running karmic?
[00:58] <nad_> jsec, yeah, it works ok till i install the prop. drivers, then wont boot to desktop, goes blank...
[00:58] <Kismet> hey anyone can help me... my ubuntu dosen't recognise usb drives which are plugged in any more
[00:58] <jsec> nad_, yeah ati support, in my experience at least, is absolute junk
[00:59] <Aijse> nad_, where have u installed drivers from? from their own site?
[01:00] <nad_> aijse, i followed instructions in the forums for finding and useins prop. drivers
[01:00] <Berzerker> where's the channel for support for lucid?
[01:00] <Aijse> nad_ I suggest you go to amd.com
[01:00] <jrib> !lucid | Berzerker
[01:00] <Berzerker> ah thanks
[01:01] <Aijse> nad_ download driver that suits your card and run the automated package
[01:01] <mcurran> You know who's a queer?  Archangel Amael at remote-exploit.  So spread the word if any gerbil jammers want to go rub one out in his bum.
[01:02] <nad_> aijse, i did, i downloaded the .run file and when i tried to make the pkgs i get these failures and unresolvable refferances
[01:02] <Aijse> make pkgs?
[01:02] <Aijse> nad_ you just have to d load it and then urn it
[01:03] <anon> haha
[01:03] <Gorash> My keyboards qoutes > ¨ are wrong. I tried everything to fix this (changed keyboard, language) Can anyone help me?
[01:03] <UbuntuHelp1> For proftpd is there a way to change the default data port rather then just the connection port?  If I've set a custom connect port does it still try to use port 20 for data or does it switch to passive and does a random range of ports?
[01:04] <anon> Gorash,  switch the buttons on your keyboard
[01:04] <jsec> nad, did you go here? http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.39&lang=English
[01:05] <Aijse> nad_, did you d-load the installer than cd to the dowload directory, and than ran sh ati*?
[01:05] <Gorash> @anon how mean!? You are not making fun of me right? :P
[01:05] <anon> Gorash, not really, it was just an idea.
[01:05] <nad_> aijse, yes
[01:05] <Gorash> these are the qoutes I get when I press shift + qoute key: ¨    and these I need: "
[01:06] <HaD3z> Hello all, new here and just wanted to say that.  Just here to learn some tips from you guys
[01:06] <Aijse> nad_ And than exactly what error did you get?
[01:06] <nad_> aijse, i dload a .run file
[01:07] <Lucider> hello , will installing both gnome and kde on ubuntu slow down my laptop or it wont be affected and each will work independently
[01:07] <Lucider> does installing more than one DE destroy my system ?????????????????/
[01:07] <Lucider> or its OK
[01:08] <Blue112> When I try to load alsamixer I get this error message : cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument ; What can I do ?
[01:08] <nad_> aijse, i got a list of warnings, starting with unresolvable reference to symbol XauFileName
[01:08] <Blue112> Lucider, there's no problem about having both.
[01:09] <nad_> aijse followed by libXv$$$$ found in no libraries
[01:09] <Blue112> :/
[01:10] <Lucider> Blue112, I am thinking of switching from gnome to kde but i never used it and i don't want to redownload 700 mb again ... is kubuntu better or as they say is not good and stick with ubuntu
[01:10] <Blue112> !best | Lucider
[01:10] <tessarakt2> it's the same
[01:10] <tessarakt2> it's just a selection of packages for installation
[01:10] <Absolute0> will this wireless card work out of the box? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156054
[01:10] <tessarakt2> you can install KDE on Ubuntu afterwards
[01:10] <tessarakt2> without reinstalling the system
[01:10] <almark1> hello I need to setup my monitor to fit the screen, its running in 1024x768 and that is fine but when I switch back to XP with dual boot I have to readjust it due to its vert and horiz in that OS, how can I set this from a Ubuntu Disto or command line or program?
[01:11] <happyface> is there a good info website on the linux/unix structure (the filesystem, commands, pipes, time, etc)?
[01:11] <Lucider> I feel familiar to gnome but i see kde screenshots and get tempted to try it :)
[01:11] <Merther> When changing the default port in proftpd does it still use port 20 for data transfer or does it use passive and use random ports in a range?  Is there a way to modify the data port being used if the connection port is different?
[01:11] <nad_> aijse followed by libXv$$$$ found in no libraries
[01:11] <Lucider> ok It wont be a distaster I will try it at the week before lucid release so I install lucid if something get wrong any way
[01:12] <Lucider> many thanks\
[01:12] <almark1> I want to adjust the screen though linux that way I can make it where I don't have to do it anymore between rebooting from OS to OS
[01:12] <TieDyeSmilez> i have a question if any offical ubuntu devs are on
[01:12] <bshotts> happyface: try linuxcommand.org
[01:12] <TieDyeSmilez> there are people on ebay selling copies of ubuntu
[01:12] <Tabmow> Merther: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/directives/linked/config_ref_PassivePorts.html
[01:12] <TieDyeSmilez> thats illegal correct?
[01:12] <Aijse> nad_, googling for those lines comes up with similar probslems and forum posts. some people clim to have found fixes by d-loading certain packages
[01:12] <TieDyeSmilez> ticks me off due to it defeats the purpose of freeware
[01:13] <happyface> thanks bshotts i'll check it out
[01:13] <bshotts> happyface: welcome
[01:13] <almark1> Is there a way to do this adjust the screen from linux and not have to use the monitor front panel, I am using a CRT
[01:13] <jrib> TieDyeSmilez: it's not illegal
[01:13] <Aijse> nad_, for example: libqt4-gui, but not alot of confirmence
[01:13] <TieDyeSmilez> i know its freely to distribute
[01:14] <jrib> TieDyeSmilez: amazon sells ubuntu too, it's perfectly fine
[01:14] <TieDyeSmilez> but key word free
[01:14] <jrib> !free | TieDyeSmilez
[01:14] <TieDyeSmilez> damn its so wrong lol
[01:14] <Merther> Tabmow So basically just modify the passive port range and add it to the firewall/router.  I'll try that.  Thanks
[01:14] <jrib> TieDyeSmilez: free doesn't mean free in cost
[01:14] <maxtor> hi there, i've found my self a 4GB sd card, i want to download a ubuntu distro and install off the sd card to my harddrive as i have no cd drive to install off.  what exactly should i download, ive already downloaded linux i386 cd version, tryed to extract it to the sd card but the bios wont boot off that.
[01:14] <maxtor> any ideas?
[01:14] <TieDyeSmilez> yet when someone just downloads from the site and sells copies thats worng imo
[01:15] <Blue112> When I try to load alsamixer I get this error message : cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument ; What can I do ?
[01:15] <jrib> TieDyeSmilez: why?  Maybe someone needs a cd for some reason and is willing to pay for it.  As long as the buyer is aware they can download free of cost themselves, I don't see what's wrong with it
[01:15] <mrpink57> maxtor: are you in windows now?
[01:16] <maxtor> mrpink, no linux :(
[01:16] <TieDyeSmilez> yet what if the buyer isnt aware its freely dis
[01:16] <maxtor> ubuntu 5.04
[01:16] <mrpink57> maxtor: I think you could just update your system to the latest
[01:16] <maxtor> need to get newer system running
[01:16] <TieDyeSmilez> i dunno i just wanted to check tho thank you for your time
[01:16] <maxtor> mrpink57, ive been told id have to update it loads of times to get it to the supported version?
[01:18] <fattux> oi alguem pode me ajudar ???
[01:18] <fattux> oi alguem pode me ajudar ???
[01:19] <fattux> any help me ???
[01:19] <mrpink57> maxtor: you can check out the dd if option
[01:19] <jrib> !pt | fattux
[01:19] <maxtor> mrpink, i dont understand what you mean sorry
[01:20] <mrpink57> maxtor: dd reads and writes data by blocks, if you have internet I would suggest googling on a how to.
[01:21] <nad_> aijse, i googled a unch, i tried all i could find that looked promising, but i have re-installed 3x tring different things, finally found a way to boot to desktop without reinstalling, but want to get it working, i hate windows and dont have quite enough patience to learn a bunch of command lines, lol
[01:21] <harisund> For how long will 9.04 be considered significant? As in receive updates or whatever .. or is it obsolete already?
[01:22] <jrib> harisund: 18 months after releases
[01:22] <harisund> jrib, ah. Good to know. Thank you :)
[01:22] <nad_> aijse, is there a way to revert the graphic driver easily that will help my trial and errors?
[01:22] <jrib> harisund: I still have 9.04 on my laptop, I'll upgrade to lucid when it's released and then not worry for 3 years
[01:23] <harisund> jrib Sounds good man. I have 9.04 too, and I like it way more than 9.10
[01:23] <Aijse> nad_ not realy im afraid
[01:25] <rob0917> does linux mint have loco's ?
[01:25] <not-Andrew_> HAXHAXHAXHAX ?DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER'
[01:25] <CShadowRun> rob0917: we don't know, ask in the mint channel?
[01:25] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[01:26] <gerry__> \speakoff
[01:27] <nad_> aijse, is there a "safe" mode? i saw the refferences to alt+f# to switch between graphic screens, but after a few seconds i loose all ability to do anything, how do i interupt the booting process to buy time/
[01:27] <palanthas> Having trouble with 'Frets on Fire'. I changed the screen size and now it won't show anything when starting the game. Is there a file I can edit to reset the screen size?
[01:28] <Aijse> nad_ there is a safe mode, but I have the feeling the driver just doesnt support your card at this moment
[01:29] <Aijse> nad_ you could use the open source driver while you keep an eye on forumposts
[01:30] <fxhp> I having trouble getting my computer to talk to my reciever.  Attempting to use Digital Coax SPDIF.
[01:31] <end> I have installed the # For Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic users:
[01:31] <end> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-karmic but my atheros card is still not recognized. I think I need to edit some files to prevent ath5 from being blacklisted, but when I try to edit files, ubuntu says I do not have sufficient permission. How do I do this and if I stop blacklisting ath5, will the card be recognized?
[01:31] <fxhp> Doesn't work on liveCD either
[01:31] <nad_> Aijse, how do i get to the safe mode? i looked at the ati ref. that the forums point to, and they say its supported, and that the newest one supports as well, however i want to try to get it working, and i get way badly stuck once i restart..
[01:32] <Aijse> nad_ If you reboot you can select with arrow keys boot safemode
[01:32] <nad_> aijse, sorry to lean on you so much, i am learning and want to experiment, but i have much to learn, if it was too easy i wouldnt be here...
[01:33] <Aijse> nad_ its part of the deal
[01:34] <nad_> aijse, thanks, so arrow keys will boot safe, why dont they tell us this with the hardware driver app. ? that would save so much frustration
[01:35] <end> quit
[01:35] <atx> hey guys
[01:35] <atx> want to launch an application through the command line, but want it to be independent
[01:36] <atx> so I can still continue using the command line after the application launches
[01:36] <Ten-Eight> atx: if you open another terminal window you can.
[01:36] <Aijse> atx: alt f2 won't do?
[01:37] <lsdluna> i seem to have accidentally removed the volume control on the panel - and i cant seem to add it back...how can i go about getting it back onto the panel? (seems the network connection alert has gone too)
[01:38] <Aijse> lsdluna, kind of depending what kind of pannel, but for me right click pannel -> add to panel -> select volume ap
[01:38] <atx> right click the panel and select "add to panel"
[01:39] <lsdluna> Aijse: the volume ap isnt in the list?
[01:39] <Ten-Eight> lsdluna: make sure you "lock" it to the panel after you add it back and have it where you want it.
[01:39] <Pici> lsdluna: Its called the notification area, it includes the volume and the network applets.
[01:39] <lsdluna> Pici:  thanks!
[01:42] <Darkben> 0
[01:44] <Hyperzid> Is there any issues when upgrading from eg. Ubuntu 8.04.3 to 8.04.4?
[01:44] <Hyperzid> ..or is it very safe to do on a production platform?
[01:44] <xangua> no
[01:44] <dbuebe> How do I turn on logging in a DHCP3 server?
[01:44] <xangua> yes
[01:45] <Empty_foo> depends on yer video card if you accelerate
[01:45] <Lars_G> Is there any howto out there for "easy" install of kde 4.4 final on 9.10?
[01:45] <ardchoille> Hyperzid: They're both sub versions of 8.04 LTS
[01:45] <dbuebe> Lars_G, Try "sudo apt-get install @kde-desktop
[01:45] <Lars_G> Specially if it includes help on enabling the new netbook UI.
[01:46] <ardchoille> You're good
[01:46] <Lars_G> dbuebe: it's pushed up already? wow
[01:46] <xangua> Lars_G: when was kde 4.4 final released¿
[01:46] <Lars_G> xangua: today
[01:46] <ardchoille> today
[01:46] <xangua> ooh, i suppose not
[01:46] <Lars_G> Including a site redesign and all
[01:46] <Lars_G> kde.org
[01:47] <studentz> Which is the command to prompt the password window ( is not"gksu"or "gksudo")? Thanks
[01:48] <shadowwulf> i have a sd card that partitioned with a ntfs and a ext3 system on it ...  i am trying to mount the ext3 side of it and copy files to it ... how do i do it ?
[01:48] <olympus> studentz: just use sudo
[01:48] <xangua> !sudo
[01:49] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: you will need to fdisk -l to see what the name is on your system, do a sudo
[01:49] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: so sudo fdisk -l
[01:49] <studentz> olympus: the script is for somebody who does not like terminal so prefers GUI Thanks
[01:49] <Hyperzid> ardchoille, ok ok.
[01:49] <shadowwulf> mrpink57, sdb6
[01:50] <Hyperzid> ardchoille, because in debian.. minor releases can have issues
[01:50] <Hyperzid> ops
[01:50] <Hyperzid> centos*
[01:50] <ardchoille> Hyperzid: This isn't debian ;)
[01:50] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: ok do so sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/flash
[01:50] <ardchoille> And I've never seen many issues with LTS releases
[01:50] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: you may need to create the flash dir
[01:50] <epitaph> Anyone pretty confident about their knowledge of lirc and IR remotes in Ubuntu?
[01:50] <Hyperzid> ardchoille, I didt mean debian.. I meant centos.
[01:51] <ardchoille> Hyperzid: Ah, ok
[01:51] <shadowwulf> mrpink57, mount point /meia/flash does not exist
[01:52] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: do mkdir /media/flash
[01:52] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: it does not need to be that dir but I gave as an example really
[01:52] <firefly2442> I have a simple makefile to compile a C++ application and it works but it's not making the generated file executable, I tried changing the permissions but that's not working, any thoughts?
[01:53] <shadowwulf> mrpink57, now it says the sd6 does not exist
[01:53] <mrpink57> shadowwulf: probably have to add sudo
[01:54] <shadowwulf> mrpink57,  nope .. tired that
[01:54] <shadowwulf> mrpink57, tried that
[01:55] <shadowwulf> mrpink57, does it go by device or partition
[01:55] <olympus> shadowwulf: SD6 or should it be sdA6
[01:55] <chaines51> Ok, I have a question that isn't directly related to Ubuntu:
[01:55] <Kismet> hey anyone can help me... my ubuntu dosen't recognise usb drives which are plugged in any more
[01:55] <chaines51> I run the command find . -path 'xyz' -not -path 'abc'
[01:55] <chaines51> and it functions as I expect it to
[01:56] <chaines51> but if I put the -not -path 'abc' into a variable
[01:56] <chaines51> and run find . -path 'xyz' $VARIABLE
[01:56] <chaines51> it doesn't function correctly. Does anyone know why?
[01:57] <shadowwulf> mrpink57, if i reboot does all that go away ?
[01:57] <shadowwulf> cp --man
[01:57] <kelopez> finally :D
[01:58] <djuggler> if I want to use grep to find a pattern but want to exclude certain files like *.wav how do I tell grep to make the exclusions?
[01:58] <Darknes> Hello, I have a question. I've decided to install a VM of Ubuntu, and tried installing Xchat. It gave me an error for some reason, stating that it couldn't find the package xchat.
[01:58] <myk_robinson> evening, all. Can any of you advise as to how newer Intel graphics chipsets are performing in Karmic? Looking at new laptops
[01:58] <shadowwulf> mrpink57,  so now if i just want to copy whats in a dir ... in total ... then i just do what ... cp what ?
[01:58] <fawaz> guys i have just installed ubuntu 9.10 ..... and was shocked with a command by mistake found it   ----->   "rpm".          is it working fine with dpkg system
[01:59] <Samp> Darknes, you sure your VM has an internet connection?
[01:59] <hlx> Darknes - terminal -> sudo apt-get update, should resolve any package finding issues, i had the same on a native install
[01:59] <Darknes> IT's connected via Wireless.
[01:59] <Darknes> Oh, k
[01:59] <djuggler> nm. Lost is on.
[01:59] <Darknes> I've used Linux distros before, but only via SSH
[01:59] <hlx> ssh is win
[01:59] <Darknes> So, when it comes to apps etc, I fail
[02:00] <Darknes> hlx, thanks. Hm, what is it updating exactly?
[02:00] <Darknes> lol
[02:00] <hlx> the package manager i guess? I;m no guru, but it worked for me.
[02:00] <Darknes> K. It seems to have worked :D
[02:00] <hlx> =]
[02:01] <codebrainz> How can I run my script on boot, directly after the kernel framebuffer become ready?
[02:01] <Darknes> Heh, I'm running this via Win7 I guess, so much fun.
[02:01] <Darknes> No breaks yet..
[02:01] <hlx> oooh win7 -- i didn't enjoy it much
[02:01] <hlx> taskbar too crazy.
[02:01] <AshishMalik> Darknes, it updates the list of repositories available for download
[02:01] <Darknes> k, thanks.
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  launch it from /etc/rc.local but that will run as the last service, Not sure how to make somthing run befor that..
[02:01] <Darknes> Ya, win7's GUI is failing so hard.
[02:01] <hlx> good to know, thanks
[02:01] <Darknes> Randomy explorer.exe will not respond.
[02:01] <Darknes> *Randomly
[02:02] <hlx> 64b or 32?
[02:02] <codebrainz> Dr_Willis, yeah, i need to it load immediately after the frame buffer as it's a type of boot splash screen
[02:02] <Darknes> 64bit
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> codebrainz:  for boot splash.. i have to say.. why bother.  useless eyecandy thats goiung to be radically changed in the next release.. good luck.
[02:02] <Darknes> I think one of their hotfixes did it.. as it was fine before.
[02:04] <Darknes> Any suggestions for good apps I should get?
[02:04] <hlx> woot. Reason i switched to ubuntu was that my dll-cache in windows file protection got corrupted, and unlike xp you can't sfc /purgecache and reload from cd. You have to format. So goodbye windows.
[02:04] <Darknes> It says compiz is installed by default, so I'm good here..
[02:04] <hlx> Pidgin for IM, otherwise depends on what you do really
[02:04] <Darknes> I still have to use Windows, for games and such.
[02:04] <Darknes> I have Oblivion, and I'm pretty sure it won't run on Ubuntu..
[02:05] <hlx> I do too, downgraded to xp :P. triple booting ubuntu, xp, and hackintosh right now
[02:05] <Darknes> I did hear about wine? or something
[02:05] <hlx> lots of fiddling with wine to make it work
[02:05] <Darknes> But, it's not great. A friend uses that to run mIRC, and it's kinda borkish.
[02:06] <Samp> why would you use wine to run mirc instead of running a native ubuntu app?
[02:06] <Darknes> Although, it seems computer companies are moving towards *nix, so maybe windows will go away again.
[02:06] <AshishMalik> Darknes, You can get linux based games like nexuiz, wolfenstein etc . . .
[02:06] <Dr_Willis> IRC is the ultimate game.
[02:06] <Darknes> I just lost the game.
[02:07] <Darknes> It makes me laugh though, my computer illiterate friends think Mac cannot ever get viruses..
[02:08] <AshishMalik> Can't say that for windows users though . . .
[02:08] <AshishMalik> they get tons of viruses like every day .
[02:09] <Darknes> Depends I suppose. Of the viruses I have gotten, the worse was some stupid fake firewall, which my dad installed -.-
[02:10] <AshishMalik> cause of windows getting so viruses is that the basic root structure on which windows is built is flawed
[02:10] <AshishMalik> I comparison to linux
[02:11] <xangua> !ot
[02:11] <AshishMalik> ok
[02:11] <MrBob> alright is anyone familiar with the acer aspire 4810tz?
[02:12] <Samp> anyone know why, when I'm in insert mode in VI, sometime the arrow keys work fine, but sometimes they cause seemingly random text to appear?
[02:12] <Darknes> Thanks hlx, AshishMalik. Need to restart and such.
[02:13] <MrBob> okay so on my acer aspire 4810tz i try to change the brightness of the screen and nothing makes a difference, any suggestions?
[02:14] <xangua> MrBob: are you using jaunty¿
[02:14] <xangua> or previous¿
[02:14] <MrBob> i am using Karmic Koala so 9.10 recently updated
[02:14] <PeterT> !stop > PeterT
[02:15] <codebrainz> MrBob, is your BIOS up to date?
[02:16] <almark1> Hello I need to fix a my broken hardy disto but when I go to update the system with the DVD only it won't update and won't mount the DVD, how can I use a DVD to fix the problem?
[02:16] <MrBob> and due to that my battery life is hardly 8 hours, i was wondering about BIOS however i am not aware as to how to update it
[02:17] <codebrainz> MrBob, it says here "can require BIOS update plus configuration" - https://wiki.edubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerTimeline4810TZ
[02:18] <Scunizi> almark1: you haven't said what the problem is
[02:18] <MrBob> thanks code, however pardon me being naiive but i am new to linux (about a few months) and how would i go about updating my bios?
[02:19] <codebrainz> MrBob, it's manufacturer/computer specific, outside of the operating system
[02:19] <almark1> I'm sorry, the problem is Ubuntu Hardy will not mount the DVD
[02:20] <MrBob> i see code, so is this something i can find on this site or do you have somewhere i can turn to for help?
[02:20] <codebrainz> MrBob, http://www.acer.ca/acer/service.do?LanguageISOCtxParam=en&miu10einu24.current.attN2B2F2EEF=3751&sp=page15e&ctx2.c2att1=27&miu10ekcond13.attN2B2F2EEF=3751&CountryISOCtxParam=CA&ctx1.att21k=1&CRC=719687231
[02:20] <codebrainz> make sure that's the right model though
[02:20] <almark1> Scunizi: when I go to put the disk in in the sources and press the button, it tells me that it cant mount or I don't have a Ubuntu based disto, something is very wrong, I use 64 studio but it still suppose to work from the DVD
[02:20] <Scunizi> almark1: well. it seems you have two issues.. the mounting of the dvd and updating which can't be done with the dvd.. unless it's a recent download of the 8.04.4 dvd..  did you get the dvd or cd of ubuntu?
[02:21] <pwasek> i setup a pptp server on my ubuntu server.  I am able to connect with the user name and passowrd but i am only able to connect to my ubuntu server i cant get to any other servers or workstations any suggestions
[02:21] <Scunizi> almark1: 64 studio?  what's that?
[02:21] <Samp> hey what was the offtopic channel again?
[02:21] <almark1> Scunizi_ its 64 studio beta 3 DVD and I can't get answers from my Disto lo0l
[02:21] <Samp> !ot
[02:21] <Samp> cool.
[02:22] <almark1> Scunizi_ I know its not supported by Ubuntu but the commands are the same, its a Studio based 32bit linux based on Hardy Repos
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> almark1:  the desktop cd/dvd i dont think you can use as a repostory to upgrade. The alternative installer cd you cd
[02:22] <Scunizi> almark1: it's near impossible to diagnose another system.. even if it's based on ubuntu. often it's different on the backend.. sorry.
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> you can use to upgrade/as a repo
[02:22] <almark1> Scunizi_ this sounds like I will have to redo the whole system sigh lol
[02:23] <MrBob> okay code, so i am on the page with the BIOS and which one should i updater to? there are four, all of which are newer than my version
[02:23] <Scunizi> almark1: why did you choose that distro instead of ubuntu?
[02:24] <sebsebseb> MrBob: It seems that using Linux to Flash a BIOS  on a lap top would be a bad idea http://apcmag.com/flashrom-091-hunts-down-more-chips-in-the-wild.htm
[02:24] <MrBob> ok so instead i should go on windows and update the bios?
[02:24] <almark1> Scunizi_ because Ubuntu Studio wasn't letting me update and it broke when I did, if something usualy is funny with a disto I jump around lol, im sure millions of Linux uses do that :)
[02:25] <codebrainz> MrBob, no idea, it's mfg specific, it used to be run on floppies, now probably from windows or something, it should be documented somewhere, or call them
[02:25] <almark1> Scunizi_ I think its time for another jump
[02:25] <sebsebseb> MrBob: Well  read the article and you tell me?  However yes it's probably better to use Windows to Flash the BIOS.
[02:25] <Scunizi> almark1: might be.. do you have  a preference for gnome or kde?  the latest kubuntu is pretty polished currently
[02:25] <MrBob> alright cause as you can imagine running at 100% brightness burns the battery like there is no tommorow
[02:25] <sebsebseb> MrBob: useaully  a computers default BIOS is fine by the way
[02:26] <Kismet> hey anyone can help me... my ubuntu dosen't recognise usb drives which are plugged in any more
[02:26] <Xrossfire> can i play games on ubunto
[02:26] <Kismet> i have to mount them manualy
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: of course
[02:26] <sebsebseb> !games | Xrossfire
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: plus Windows games in Wine etc
[02:26] <Xrossfire> whats the benefits of switching from windows to unbuntu?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: security, it's immune to Windows malware
[02:27] <Xrossfire> k
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: also being infected with Linux malware is rather rare
[02:27] <MrBob> hmm alright well thanks for the information all
[02:27] <almark1> Scunizi_ Better stick with my Gnome, the biggest problem is I have switched Distos since 2005 off and on and use Windows at the same time because that is my main OS but anyway its usally the sound config problems that get me and I have to find something else that works
[02:27] <shadowwulf> what is the command to move everything from one folder to another ?
[02:27] <Scunizi> Xrossfire: the ability to do what and when you want on your system without paying, asking, or breaking any eula's
[02:27] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: software freedom would be another advantage of course
[02:27] <sebsebseb> !freedom  | Xrossfire
[02:27] <mezimezim> hi, I am having a serious problem with Evolution: it crashes when I try to open the "sent mail" I imported from a .PST file
[02:27] <Xrossfire> its free?
[02:27] <almark1> Scunizi_ The fact is no matter what disto I have tried Jackd is always my problem
[02:28] <Xrossfire> so its like windows or mac with more features?
[02:28] <Scunizi> almark1: ah
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: Ubuntu is free as in price, and most programs in it and that you can easilly get for it are free as in software freedom as well
[02:28] <Munchkinguy> I am having trouble building the Raptor menu for KDE in Karmic. Could someone please help?
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: It's like Mac, meaning not all Windows programs are going to just work on it
[02:29] <Xrossfire> ok
[02:29] <almark1> Scunizi_ I'm thinking of trying Jacklab even though there are no more repos and no more forum but that is off topic
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: Which programs do you want to run?
[02:29] <p3rror> hello
[02:29] <p3rror> is there any html/php editor for gnome
[02:29] <Xrossfire> i was just wondering cause i want to get a new OS and win7 is too expensive
[02:29] <jken146> Xrossfire: The wikipedia article on Ubuntu is a decent explanation of what it is
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: There are good alternatives to most popular WIndows programs,  plus you can get some working  rather well in Wine
[02:29] <p3rror> in kde  i used quanta
[02:30] <xangua> sebsebseb Xrossfire FREE as in freedom, not as in free beer
[02:30] <shadowwulf> Xcrossfire: if i am not mistaken there is something called wine and/or playonlinux for windows programs to work on linux
[02:30] <shadowwulf> what is the command to move everything from one folder to another ?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> xangua: sure, but most people won't understand that
[02:30] <xangua> seb
[02:30] <Scunizi> Xrossfire: get the live cd and run it direct from your cdrom.. try it out.. if you like it then install.. if you have winXP or other then Dual boot if you want
[02:30] <jken146> shadowwulf: mv oldDirectory/* newdir/
[02:30] <AshishMalik> shadowwulf, mv -f /folder /destination
[02:30] <xangua> sebsebseb: then you are gonna lie to them¿
[02:30] <Xrossfire> k ill try it out
[02:30] <sebsebseb> xangua: I got the bot to give him the feredom link, which explains it
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> Xrossfire:   theres also dozens of linux distros to try
[02:30] <sebsebseb> !wine | Xrossfire
[02:30] <DIL> !mbox
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Xrossfire: with enough RAM and such you can also run Windows inside Ubuntu and that's fine for most programs
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> win7 costs more the most pc's i buy.
[02:31] <almark1> Scunizi_ A beta is a beta and there are problems associated with that usually I have to stay away from them
[02:31] <olympus> p3error: check out Bluefish Editor
[02:31] <Xrossfire> k thanks
[02:32] <Scunizi> almark1: beta?  9.10 is in final and 10.04 LTS will be out in April..
[02:33] <shadowwulf> damn that moved the whole dir over .. not what i wante d
[02:33] <DIL> mezimezim, http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1262735
[02:34] <AshishMalik> shadowwulf, well you wanted to move everything
[02:34] <almark1> Scunizi_ when I got ahold of Ubuntu I can't remember which one, the cdrom tray kept coming in and out and in and out lol that was odd, but every distro has weird problems lol
[02:34] <AshishMalik> or do u want to move just all files in a folder ?
[02:35] <AshishMalik> shadowwulf, In that case : mv -f * /destination
[02:35] <mezimezim> DIL: thanks, but I would really like to solve my problem, not just switch software
[02:36] <mezimezim> Evolution now has a nice import tool for .PST, which I have used to import this particular file, but something seems wrong, and I assume this must be "fixable"....
[02:36] <mezimezim> I like Evolution
[02:36] <DIL> mezimezim, convert pst to mbox format then import
[02:37] <mezimezim> oh! I see...
[02:37] <DIL> mezimezim, never mind
[02:37] <shadowwulf> ok, how do i move the files in a folder to the root dir of the drive
[02:37] <mezimezim> I might just try that then
[02:37] <mezimezim> thanks!
[02:37] <Scunizi> shadowwulf: be a little more specific.. from where to where
[02:37] <AshishMalik> shadowwulf, sudo mv -f * /
[02:38] <AshishMalik> shadowwulf, you must be in the folder where d files r
[02:38] <jken146> AshishMalik: Why -f? That's lazy and dangerous
[02:38] <mezimezim> good night
[02:38] <jken146> (potentially)
[02:38] <almark1> Scunizi_ I have used a few Ubuntu distos over the years, I like Archlinux but there again lol things happen,
[02:38] <Johnny1> How do I get usb devices to run in wine?
[02:38] <jken146> AshishMalik: No, you don't have to be in any particular directory.
[02:38] <Scunizi> shadowwulf: AshishMalik is "exactly" correct however you probably *don't* want to move the files to the actual root.. it's not like a C: drive
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  would depend on the usb device you aretalking about
[02:39] <shadowwulf> i have a /media/flash drive and on that drive i have a rootfs.cupcake ... i need to move the contents of the folder to the root dir of the flash drive
[02:39] <almark1> Scunizi_ thank you for your info but its time for me to go :)
[02:39] <Johnny1> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to mount my iPod Touch
[02:39] <shadowwulf> Scunizi, it has to .. its for android
[02:39] <AshishMalik> jken146, if u r in d directory, u just avoid writing the full path to that directory. That's all
[02:39] <jken146> shadowwulf: Ah, ok, so your destination ir /media/flash/
[02:39] <jken146> er, is
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  I dont think you access it directly with wine. You mount it under linux then you access the mounbted location,.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  what app are you trying to use in wine to access it>?
[02:40] <Johnny1> Dr_Willis: i-FunBox
[02:40] <shadowwulf> jken146, yes it is ... but i have a rootfs.cupcake folder ... the contents of that folder need to go to the /media/flash
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  check the wine app database on that app. it might not work properly in wine.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !appdb
[02:40] <jken146> shadowwulf: cp rootfs.cupcake/* /media/flash/
[02:41] <Johnny1> Dr_Willis: There isn't one
[02:41] <shadowwulf> jken146, i want to delete the cupcake folder
[02:41] <jken146> shadowwulf: assuming you're in the directory where rootfs.cupcake also is
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  isent one what?
[02:41] <Johnny1> Dr_Willis: A wine app database
[02:41] <jken146> shadowwulf: then delete i: rm -r rootfs.cupcake
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Johnny1:  you mean an entry for that app. make one perhaps.. I dont use ipods so cant really help any more.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> !ipod
[02:43] <Johnny1> I need to ssh into my iPod Touch, Please help me!
[02:43] <jken146> Johnny1: Does your ipod touch have an ssh server?
[02:43] <LucidGuy> Anyone spamassasin savy?
[02:44] <shadowwulf> jken146, didnt copy the folders
[02:44] <jken146> shadowwulf: I told you to use cp to copy the contents of the folder
[02:44] <shadowwulf> jken146,
[02:44] <Johnny1> jken146: yes, but it's locked in android lock screen. I need to get into the files to unlock it.
[02:44] <shadowwulf> jken146, i did ... but it didnt copy the folders
[02:45] <shadowwulf> jken146, i need the folders too
[02:45] <jken146> shadowwulf: Which folders?
[02:45] <jken146> Johnny1: Sorry, I've no idea about ipods/android
[02:46] <shadowwulf> jken146,  there is a dev sbin and a system folder in the rootfs.cupcake folder
[02:46] <Johnny1> Need to ssh into ipod touch, please help me!
[02:46] <shadowwulf> jken146, need to copy them
[02:46] <jken146> shadowwulf: Where is your folder rootfs.cupcake?
[02:47] <shadowwulf> on the /media/flash drive
[02:47] <jken146> shadowwulf: OK. So you want to copy all the files inside /media/flash/rootfs.cupcake to /media/flash/ ?
[02:48] <jken146> shadowwulf: correct?
[02:49] <shadowwulf> jken146,  yep and delete the rootfs.cupcake folder
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> this is when i find using the 'mc' file manager comes in handy...
[02:50] <jken146> shadowwulf: Gotcha. We'll use cp (recursively) to copy the files, then rmdir to remove the leftover empty directory.       cp -r /media/flash/rootfs.cupcake/* /media/flash/ && rmdir /mediaflash/rootfs.cupcake
[02:51] <shadowwulf> jken146, cool thanks
[02:52] <jken146> shadowwulf: Does that make sense?
[02:52] <shadowwulf> jken146,  yep got it .. thanks
[02:52] <harisund1> Any idea why when I connect to IRC and list all channels, it appears I am disconnected from the server immediately?
[02:53] <jken146> harisund1: Which server? freenode?
[02:53] <harisund1> yes Freenode
[02:53] <jken146> harisund1: There are a *lot* of channels on freenode
[02:53] <harisund1> I tried connecting using Pidgin, XChat and irssi .. it connects me, and nothing happens
[02:54] <jken146> harisund1: What do you mean nothing happens?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> harisund1:  often getting a chnnel list can 'flood' you off the network - from what i recall in the past.
[02:55] <harisund1> Dr_Willis: I think that's what happened then :0
[02:55] <ardchoille> Dr_Willis: it can
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> harisund1:  Normally people allready know what channels they want to join
[02:55] <harisund1> Anyway not a Ubuntu related issue, so dont bother. Here's my Ubuntu related issue. I have 2 250GB SATA hard disks, and I think they are configured for Raid0 stripe. When I install fedora 12 it recognizes it as a 500GB single harddisk, but Ubuntu sees 2 seperate hard dissk .. any clue? I think it's called FakeRaid but I could be wrong
[02:55] <daya> echo test123 | passwd --stdin $user
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> !channels
[02:56] <daya> is there is any alternative to echo pass | passwd --stdin test in ubuntu, this command is supported in Fedora
[02:57] <jken146> daya: What are you trying to do? Change a password?
[02:57] <daya> jken146, yes thru bash
[02:57] <hanasaki> using sound recorder and pulse.. how do I get the audio in on my usb cam w/ a mic?
[02:57] <jken146> daya: just type passwd
[02:57] <ardchoille> daya: It's easier in Ubuntu :)
[02:58] <ardchoille> Hey, I should make an advert out of that.. "It's easier in Ubuntu"
[02:59] <firefly2442> Would someone mind looking at this fstab line and tell me why I can't execute binary files on my NTFS partition? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d62d2f75c
[02:59] <fredweb30> tem algun brasileiro aqui na sala
[02:59] <ardchoille> !brasil | fredweb30
[03:00] <ardchoille> !portuguese | fredweb30
[03:00] <hanasaki> what is a good program to record audio? video? both?
[03:00] <jken146> firefly2442: Have you tried: /dev/sdc1 /media/Windows7 ntfs defaults 0 0    ?
[03:01] <firefly2442> jken146, ahh, I think I just realized the problem, I think the fmask is overriding my executable option
[03:02] <daya> jken146, I am trying to set same password for a bulk of users thru script , echo ubuntu | passwd <user> is invalid
[03:05] <ve5dt> pretty slow here tonight. Bye!
[03:05] <hanasaki> where in pulse audio do you set which mic to use?
[03:05] <renegaid> no matter what I do I ant get ubuntu looking good. this is the only os I know of that looks the same with every build. I have tried so many themes
[03:05] <jken146> daya: I thought you bight be trying to do something like that. I'm trying to figure it out
[03:05] <Raydiation> can i chown root:root in ubuntu?
[03:06] <jken146> Raydiation: yes, you can, but why would you want to?
[03:06] <Raydiation> jken146: install a file which should be only edited by root
[03:06] <daya> jken146, ok
[03:07] <jken146> Raydiation: ok, sounds reasonable. You just need to use sudo.
[03:07] <Raydiation> jken146: ty
[03:08] <jken146> daya: you want chpasswd
[03:08] <roshan> hello
[03:09] <jken146> hello, roshan
[03:09] <roshan> i need help
[03:09] <jken146> roshan: Ask away!
[03:10] <igie> hi, whenever i try to connect to my ubuntu machine from a windows machine, I can see it in network places, when i click to go into it, It says it cannot be found. anyone know why?
[03:10] <roshan> i install ubuntu in my system
[03:10] <juan28> a
[03:10] <jken146> !samba | igie
[03:10] <igie> I have samba installed :s
[03:11] <Berzerker> is there anyway to regenerate a default sources.list if I changed mine?
[03:12] <jken146> igie: Have you got it set up properly? smbuser there? got your shares set up properly?
[03:13] <jken146> Berzerker: It's only a couple of lines really, so don't worry about messing it uip
[03:13] <igie> jken146: not quite sure, I think thats the issue but can't put my finger on what exactly is out of place... I will paste bin my config file.
[03:13] <jken146> igie: thanks
[03:14] <Berzerker> jken146, well the thing is, I replaced all of them with anl.gov, but it can't find xchat, says no installation candidate
[03:16] <jken146> Berzerker: change them all back to archive.ubuntu.com
[03:17] <ardchoille> Berzerker: And then do: sudo apt-get update
[03:17] <j33pfan> quit
[03:17] <Berzerker> yeah that's...tedious
[03:18] <Berzerker> I found a generator though, quite handy.
[03:18] <kebomix> i updated kernel to 2.6.30.19  and i got kernel panic :( , it is because ati driver i installed official driver on the older kernel , and new one doesn't accept it and i can't log into system , any solution ?
[03:18] <jken146> Berzerker: sed s/oldserver/newserver /etc/apt/sources/lsit
[03:18] <jken146> .list
[03:19] <ardchoille> jken146: Probably "sed -i.backup" just to be safe
[03:19] <Berzerker> mm...interesting
[03:19] <Berzerker> thanks
[03:20] <jamesjr7> hello?
[03:20] <sponzor> does ubuntu uses kdump?
[03:20] <hvgotcodes> im noticing that gkrellm and htop stop seem to freeze every 5 seconds.  what is that?
[03:21] <cyn23> help please
[03:21] <cyn23> i want to change my x boot splash resolution
[03:21] <ardchoille> hvgotcodes: sounds like something is spiking the cpu every five seconds
[03:22] <hvgotcodes> ardchoille, i dont see a spike
[03:22] <coleosis> How does one change the resolution of the x login screen?
[03:22] <ardchoille> hvgotcodes: well those two apps are completely unrelated to eachother
[03:22] <daya> jken146, chpasswd requires the file with list  such as  user1:passwd1user2:passwd2,
[03:23] <hvgotcodes> ardchoille, right, but they both are measuring usage independently.  they both show the same 'freeze'.
[03:23] <kebomix> how to remove officail ati driver 9.10 ?
[03:24] <ardchoille> hvgotcodes: hmm.. neither of those apps have any freeze here on Karmic. I still think something is spiking the cpu but it's just a guess
[03:24] <daya> jken146, I am writing a script thru for loop to add users (user1 - user100) and set the password for each to password
[03:24] <hlx> does pygtk come installed in 9.10 by default? canot find a package
[03:24] <jken146> daya: the man page says it takes stdin
[03:25] <ardchoille> !info python-gtk2 | hlx
[03:25] <daya> jken146, in man page of chpasswd ?
[03:25] <hvgotcodes> ardchoille, yeah im on karmic 64 bit
[03:25] <jken146> daya: yes
[03:25] <ardchoille> hvgotcodes: Ah, 32 bit here, may be the difference
[03:25] <hlx> thank you
[03:25] <ardchoille> yw
[03:26] <daya> jken146, not in my man page about stdin
[03:26] <hvgotcodes> ardchoille, maybe some buffers are clearing?
[03:26] <ardchoille> hlx: in the future you can always search: apt-cache search -n python | grep gtk
[03:26] <ardchoille> hvgotcodes: I'm not familiar at all with 64bit
[03:26] <hlx> kk, newer to the whole nix thing, grep more or less just says "search for this phrase" right?
[03:27] <nfoxTc> hey how do you disable word wrap on the terminal
[03:27] <ardchoille> hlx: grep says "filter"
[03:27] <hlx> k
[03:27] <droid7> what is the name of the package for "restricted drivers manager" ?
[03:28] <jken146> droid7: jockey
[03:28] <hlx> lastly, where would one go to get on track for coding-development-help for ubuntu? I'm getting used to the languages i know on here, and would like to contribute.
[03:28] <ardchoille> hlx: and the "-n" means "search for the text from package names only", regular search would be: apt-cache search foo | grep bar
[03:28] <droid7> jken146: thanks!
[03:28] <jken146> daya: man chpasswd
[03:29] <droid7> one last question. I was having issues with pulse audio and delayed sound when pausing flash video, so I replaced with it alsa. Now my volume keys don't work, and the gnome volume applet doesn't exist. Anythign I can do fix that?
[03:29] <Berzerker> jken146, how do I use sed if there's a / in the server I'm replaing
[03:30] <jken146> daya: for example, sudo echo joebloggs:p4s5w0rD | chpasswd
[03:30] <Random832> hlx; it's not so much a phrase as an exact string
[03:30] <Random832> (though you've also got all sorts of wildcard stuff to control it)
[03:30] <Random832> if you don't know about all that you should probably use fgrep
[03:30] <ardchoille> Berzerker: sed 's|server/name|new/server/name|'  or  sed 's#server/name#new/server/name'
[03:31] <jken146> Berzerker: escape a forward slash like this: \/
[03:31] <daya> jken146, yes that way it works , Great !
[03:31] <daya> jken146, by the way , what about stdin command in ubuntu
[03:32] <Berzerker> ardchoille, thanks
[03:32] <ardchoille> yw
[03:32] <ardchoille> jken146: just fyi, you can use "/" or "|" or "#" with sed
[03:33] <Berzerker> ardchoille, damn...still getting "xchat has no installation candidate"...
[03:33] <Berzerker> even with default sources
[03:33] <ardchoille> Berzerker: Did you do: sudo apt-get update
[03:33] <Berzerker> yeah
[03:33] <ardchoille> Berzerker: can you pastebin your sources file so I can have a look?
[03:33] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[03:34] <jken146> daya: there is no stdin command
[03:34] <Berzerker> ah wait...
[03:34] <daya> jken146, ok
[03:34] <Geoffrey2> for some reason, I cannot get the CD/DVD creator in Karmic to burn a CD....the burn seems to work, the desktop icon still shows Blank CD-R, and when i click on it I go right back into the CD/DVD creator
[03:34] <Berzerker> ardchoille, sed didn't change the links, it outputted everything correctly in the terminal, but nothing in sources.list was changed...is there some sort of option I should be using, or a switch?
[03:35] <ardchoille> Berzerker: That's why you need the "-i" to "make changes inline":  sed -i.backup 's/old text/new text/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:36] <Linkadmin> every time i switch user on netbook-remix, gdm runs pm-suspend. Does anyone have any idea why?
[03:36] <ardchoille> Berzerker: sudo sed -i.backup 's/old text/new text/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:36] <ardchoille> Berzerker: the ".backup" makes a back up before doing the work just i case
[03:36] <Berzerker> ardchoille, doesn't output errors...but changes nothing...maybe I'm spelling something wrong...
[03:36] <ardchoille> Berzerker: needs sudo
[03:36] <sponzor> hi what to use for crash dump? that it captures kernel panic etc..?
[03:37] <hlx> is there a guide anywhere to using launchpad? a little convoluted for first time use
[03:37] <Berzerker> oh wait that did it
[03:37] <Berzerker> ardchoille, no I did sudo, apparently I was reading it wrong
[03:37] <ardchoille> ah, ok
[03:37] <ardchoille> Berzerker: now  you need to do: sudo apt-get update
[03:37] <metaltothedeath> Hey
[03:37] <Berzerker> ardchoille, yup got it, thanks
[03:37] <ardchoille> yw
[03:37] <metaltothedeath> How do i do the thing
[03:37]  * ardchoille has been loving Ubuntu since 2005
[03:38] <Berzerker> ardchoille, another quick q, how do I upgrade the kernel to .32?
[03:38] <ardchoille> Berzerker: updating the kernel requires:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:39] <ardchoille> Berzerker: That updates to the latest from the repos. Beyond that I can't help because I don't use apps outside the repos
[03:39] <Berzerker> k, thanks
[03:39] <ardchoille> yw
[03:39] <Berzerker> dist-upgrade only gives me 31-19
[03:40] <ardchoille> Berzerker: then you may have to compile your own kernel, but that is quite a big job
[03:40] <Berzerker> yeah...
[03:40] <jken146> Berzerker: What do you need 32 for btw?
[03:40] <Berzerker> I'm sure I'll find some .deb to install
[03:40] <Berzerker> jken146, I hear it has a decent speed increases
[03:41] <ardchoille> Berzerker: I'd be very weary of installing a kernel from a .deb that isn't in your repos
[03:41] <ardchoille> Berzerker: And it's a bad idea to add mix repos, ie: Karmic/Lucid
[03:41] <jken146> Berzerker: I doubt it's worth the hassle
[03:41] <Berzerker> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32/linux-headers-2.6.32-020632-generic_2.6.32-020632_i386.deb
[03:42] <Berzerker> directly from ubuntu..
[03:42] <ardchoille> Ah, might be worth a try then
[03:42] <Berzerker> http://www.ramoonus.nl/2009/12/03/linux-kernel-2-6-32-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-linux/#
[03:42] <Berzerker> if anyone cares
[03:42] <nomnex> is X like the Windows kernel?
[03:42] <jken146> You could use apt pinning to get the newer kernel from lucid
[03:42] <Berzerker> I'm not running lucid, and upgrade attempt made netbook launcher constantly crash
[03:42] <ardchoille> nomnex: x is a windowing system that gnome runs on top of
[03:42] <jken146> but there's no guarantee it wouldn't break things horribly
[03:43] <ardchoille> jken146: please don't recommend mixing releases like that (Karmic/Lucid), can cause lots of problems.
[03:44] <jken146> ardchoille: I'm not recommending it. It's probably a very bad idea for something like the kerne;
[03:44] <nomnex> ardchoille, I have read on Wikipedia that x was also a server (e.g. Terminal Server Client)
[03:44] <ardchoille> yeah
[03:44] <nomnex> ardchoille, so without X gnome does "not work"?
[03:44] <ardchoille> nomnex: gnome needs x to run
[03:45] <happyface> is there a way to hide my terminal actions in a linux terminal? (aka people can't w/who to see what i'm up to)
[03:45] <nomnex> ardchoille, last question, what the pending x on Windows if any?
[03:45] <ardchoille> nomnex: Please rephrase that, I didn't understand it
[03:46] <DavidJHeinrich> hi all, can anyone help me with a problem with ManDVD
[03:46] <ardchoille> nomnex: I haven't touched a Microsoft product in 9 years, so I have no idea about Windows OS
[03:46] <jken146> happyface: You can delete your ~/.bash_history file
[03:46] <rainy-day> what is a nice looking fontstring for xterm, something similar to konsole default font?
[03:46] <nomnex> ardchoille, sorry about it, is there a X (diff name or system) comparable on Windoze?
[03:46] <jken146> happyface: but that won't hide the processes  you're running
[03:46] <nomnex> ardchoille, ;-) okay no problem
[03:46] <happyface> jken146: thanks thats one step :P
[03:47] <ardchoille> happyface: iirc, man history tells you how to not record bash history
[03:47] <Random832> rainy-day; the fonts that come with xterm by default are probably the best you're going to get, unless you've got some other bitmap font you're a fan of
[03:47] <rainy-day> Random832: doh
[03:47] <Berzerker> ardchoille, if I install this kernel version over it, will it recognize updates for it also?
[03:48] <cyn23> help me with my bootsplash resolution please
[03:48] <jken146> nomnex: Windows is monolithic, where GNU is layer-upon-layer. GNOME runs on top of X, which runs on init,... with ther kernel at the bottom (slightly simplified)
[03:48] <ardchoille> Berzerker: the package manager is the thing responsible for updates, you installing a package manually may not get updates at all.
[03:48] <rainy-day> Ok then.. is there some way to have a konsole or gnome terminal that will have a different icon in taskbar? I need to have a couple terminals that I want to look different from my main terminal
[03:49] <jken146> rainy-day: you can set up multiple profiles in gnome-terminal
[03:49] <Random832> wait a minute... that's conventional wisdom
[03:49] <Random832> i just did a google search and HOLY CRAP
[03:50] <Random832> xterm -fa 'Bitstream Vera Sans Mono'
[03:50] <cyn23> help me with my boot splash resolution please it use to be in 1024x768 with SiS 661fx but 8s now 8x6 with ATI Radeon 9550
[03:50] <cyn23> help me with my boot splash resolution please it use to be in 1024x768 with SiS 661fx but 8s now 8x6 with ATI Radeon 9550
[03:50] <nomnex> jken146, thanks, I am getting used to the definitions. It means I can change desktop manager (GNOME, KDE) but the underlying will be X for all? and X will also be use remotely (thin-client infrastructure, by example)
[03:50] <hlx> you mean, google has something other than sponsored links? :o
[03:50] <rainy-day> jken146: how can I start gnome terminal in kubuntu, when I start it I get konsole instead! and I can't change that in its profiles
[03:50] <mattgyver> Hey guys, is there a way to recognize 4gb of ram in ubuntu without using the 64bit version?
[03:50] <jken146> rainy-day: then run the one you want with gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=PROFILENAME
[03:50] <live_wire> Hey people, I am new to Ubuntu and to linux.  I installed version 9.10 with Grub2 on a second partition.  All was well until I installed startup-manager and changed my resolution.  Now after trying to boot in Ubuntu it brings me to a black screen.
[03:50] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, Yes, use the PAE kernel
[03:50] <Random832> rainy-day; you can set the xterm font to real fonts with -fa instead of -fn
[03:50] <ardchoille> Random832: hey, that's the nicest xterm font I've ever seen
[03:50] <jken146> rainy-day: I imagine there is something similar in konsole
[03:50] <live_wire> I've gone through several google searches with no luck
[03:50] <rainy-day> Random832: that looks awesome! thanks
[03:50] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, thanks ill look into it :)
[03:51] <Random832> i never knew that before today
[03:51] <ardchoille> Random832: I disliked xterm because of the font until now
[03:51] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, I believe the PAE kernel can address up to 48 GB of RAM
[03:51] <jken146> nomnex: yes, KDE, GNOME< XFCE, etc. will all run on the same X server. And X can be accessed remotely too
[03:52] <daya> jken146, any idea to verify that the user password is right or wrong, I am trying to write a bash script to change FTP password via web
[03:52] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, Another thing you could do is use the 64-bit kernel on your 32-bit Ubuntu system
[03:52] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, okay.. any idea whats the best most stable method?
[03:52] <rainy-day> Random832: and -fs changes size! cool
[03:52] <jken146> daya: No, you can't find out what a password is
[03:52] <nomnex> jken146, I can use OpenSSH to rsync or access Dirs/files from the console, but can I use OpenSSH to access a remote machine?
[03:52] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, Use the X86-64 version of Ubuntu is the best thing to do
[03:52] <Random832> daya; you really need to interact with the 'passwd' command
[03:53] <DaemonFC> PAE is kind of hacky and may aggravate some 3rd party driver
[03:53] <jken146> nomnex: yes, SSH is used for securely logging in to a remote computer
[03:53] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, I would do that but ive just heard there are a lot of application compatibilty issues with the 64bit, and im not really ready to go that route yet
[03:53] <DaemonFC> it's also a bit slower than the native addressing in the 64-bit kernel
[03:53] <daya> jken146, yes I suppose that, but there is at least some way to do it, may be some perl or python mods
[03:53] <nomnex> jken146, thanks
[03:53] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, There are no issues on the X86-64 version
[03:54] <jken146> mattgyver: 64bit ubuntu is fine
[03:54] <DaemonFC> there's 32-bit libraries that can be used for 32-bit compatibility
[03:54] <daya> Random832, any idea about it
[03:54] <DaemonFC> they're all brought in as dependences if you isntall Wine :)
[03:54] <mattgyver> Okay, well then maybe ill dive into it, im about to reconfigure my system anyway in the next week or so cuz i got a new SSD to play with
[03:54] <mkquist> jken146: i agree been using it for quite some time no problems
[03:55] <nomnex> jken146, one more think, does the remote deskotp viewer (GUI) in Application allow SSH connection or only through the command line?
[03:55] <nomnex> jken146, sorry bad english...
[03:55] <Random832> sorry
[03:55] <jken146> daya: Passwords are encrypted and stored in /etc/shadow in such a way that you can generate the ecrypted string from the password (to authenticate) but not do the reverse
[03:55] <Random832> jken146; which would mean he has to run his php script as root
[03:55] <JULinuxUser> If possible a question from a new julinux user, the program says its installed but on restart at the 2nd screen is says error no such partition <grub rescue>
[03:55] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, The only reason to stay with 32-bit x86 version of Ubuntu is if your CPU does not support X86-64
[03:55] <jennie> Hey,hey,hey
[03:56] <jken146> Random832: He would have to be root to use chpasswd
[03:56] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, then im a dummy cuz mine i deffinately a 64 bit :X
[03:56] <jennie> >0<
[03:56] <jken146> Random832: but I thought daya was writing a bash script anyway
[03:56] <live_wire> is there a way to reset my resolution at grub?
[03:56] <Random832> jken146; my suggestion was passwd, not chpasswd
[03:56] <gmendoza> Out of curiosity, has anyone heard of a quick fix for Flash video flickering?  Lots of conflicting ideas in searches so far.  I've noticed it with Intel and ATI chipsets, both in Firefox and Chrome, with compiz enabled and disabled.
[03:57] <jazz> Jordan_U,  are you still about?
[03:57] <ChogyDan> gmendoza: jaunty?
[03:57] <nomnex> mattgyver, not for me, the reason are the codecs on Medibuntu, 32 packages offer much more than 64
[03:57] <daya> Random832, jken146 I am only trying to write a CGI using bash to let my FTP users to change their password
[03:57] <gmendoza> karmic...
[03:57] <jken146> Random832: passwd doesn't work; it's interactive
[03:57] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, If you asked me in 2005/2006, I would have been insistent on staying with 32-bit x86 because the 32-bit compatibility libraries weren't really all there yet, but there's no good reason to not use X86-64 now
[03:57] <ChogyDan> gmendoza: er, yeah, the latest stable
[03:57] <Random832> jken146; you can redirect its stdin
[03:58] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, well ill deffinately give it a shot and see if it works out better for me, if it doesnt ill just roll back to 32bit
[03:58] <gmendoza> ChogyDan: yeah, running Adobe Flash 10.0 r42
[03:58] <DaemonFC> people liked to FUD X86-64 for a long time because of those early compatibility issues
[03:58] <ChogyDan> gmendoza: would you mind telling me some of the conflicting solutions?  I'm curious.  I'd be happy to give you my solutions
[03:58] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, that might be what i got traped in
[03:58] <jken146> nomnex: Um, I'm not sure about that app, I've not used it. I *think* it's a VNC viewer, which is a bit more than just X forwarding on ssh (but then I get out of my depth on how that works)
[03:58] <DaemonFC> mattgyver, Just bring in Wine and you'll have all the 32-bit compatibility environment you need because Wine depends on all of them
[03:58] <Random832> just (echo $oldpass; echo $newpass; echo $newpass) | passwd
[03:58] <mattgyver> DaemonFC, shall do :)
[03:59] <DaemonFC> so does bringing in ubuntu-restricted-extras cause Flash wants them
[03:59] <mattgyver> Okay
[03:59] <shannon_> hey how do i install gstreamer plugins for use with totem so i can watch dvd's
[03:59] <Random832> (that was even easier than i thought it would be)
[03:59] <Random832> now, you have to be running _as the user_ for that to work properly, just like for reading shadow you'd have to be root
[03:59] <DaemonFC> shannon_, Use the Medibuntu repository and install libdvdcss2
[04:00] <DaemonFC> Ubuntu can't legally distribute that library
[04:00] <gmendoza> ChogyDan: some ranging from recompiling kernel, others suggest ati specific settings in xorg.  Havent found much about the intel settings.
[04:00] <nomnex> jken146, I see, do you happen to have a good link (tutorial) to ssh a remote server?
[04:00] <DaemonFC> shannon_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[04:00] <jken146> !ssh | nomex
[04:00] <Raydiation> hm whats the apache user in ubuntu?
[04:00] <shannon_> thank you DaemonFC
[04:01] <Raydiation> apache or http?
[04:01] <ChogyDan> gmendoza: heh, well, Im the one that sent out a suggestion to run a different kernel.  Ive also found that the issue is solved in lucid
[04:01] <nomnex> jken146, you made my day.
[04:01] <ChogyDan> gmendoza: I threw up my experience here: http://chogydan.blogspot.com/2010/01/flashy-flash-flashin-ubuntu-karmic.html
[04:01] <Random832> also look into setting up PAM authentication on your php
[04:02] <gmendoza> ChogyDan: very good, I'll have a look.  Much appreciated.
[04:03] <ChogyDan> gmendoza: hmm, I should update the warnings about the kernel, I've been running it for awhile now.
[04:03] <jken146> nomnex: yw :)
[04:04] <shannon_> what next DaemonFC
[04:04] <DaemonFC> shannon_, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[04:05] <zinox> there is any tutorial to help me install this video card >> Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]  on ubuntu lucid?
[04:05] <DaemonFC> shannon_, Totem also doesn't make the greatest DVD player, you may want to grab VLC while you're at it
[04:07] <kebomix> hello , i got kernel panic after installing linux header 2.6.31-19 because of ati driver , i removed official driver that was already installed but still have same problem !?
[04:08] <live_wire> just changed graphics resolution in startup-manager.  now i cannot boot in ubuntu, not even recovery mode.  i just receive a black screen.. any help please?
[04:09] <Drakon> Hi, totally new to Linux, got sick of windows XP/Vista etc... now i've sorta got everything running ok i wanted to install a login window theme, except i can't figure out how, even though i downloaded one from the site that the theme manager suggests... can anyone help??
[04:10] <blakkheim> Drakon: you basically can't change the gdm theme in 9.10
[04:10] <Berzerker> ardchoille, is there a way to force the grub menu up?
[04:10] <Drakon> oh fair enough... so it's for older versions??... or it's difficult?
[04:11] <Li_On_> hello? Good evening everyone. This is acutally my first time in an IRC chat so I just picked this channel since I'm taking baby steps into the world of Ubuntu
[04:11] <blakkheim> Drakon: older
[04:11] <Drakon> thankyou
[04:11] <jken146> Li_On_: hello. How can we help?
[04:12] <live_wire> Should I re-install ubuntu, or grub2?
[04:12] <hlx> where does one go if they want to get on the path to eventually writing code for ubuntu? (im fluent on C++, python and java in windows, learning portability concepts.), and would like to get started on the patch to contribution
[04:12] <docoxxx> hola
[04:12] <songer> hello, i can't find: flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:12] <docoxxx> nesito ayuda
[04:13] <hlx> on the path *
[04:13] <jken146> hlx: find a project you like and see what needs doing. Look on launchpad and sourceforge
[04:13] <hlx> alright, is there some guided tour for launchpad? seems quite convoluted
[04:13] <Li_On_> So, first thing's first...I wiped and old XP machine and made a clean install of Ubuntu...plugged in the ethernet cable...firefox launched immediately(wow!)...what do i need to know as windows user to better appreciate my transition...? security? alternative software?...any tips...
[04:14] <Drakon> i'm also looking to find out how to set up my xbox360 to Linux... can anyone point me in the right direction?
[04:14] <hlx> Drakon: eh?
[04:14] <DasEi> Li_On_: karmic ?
[04:14] <Alphex> can anyone point me to a bash scripting channel?
[04:15] <jken146> songer: Li_On_: Security -- you don't need to do anything :)  As for the rest, just start using it, and see how you go. You'll find software in the Software Center (in the Applications menu)
[04:15] <ChogyDan> hlx: I did the packaging upgrade guide, and that has got me started
[04:15] <shannon_> got it! Thanks again, DaemonFC
[04:15] <ChogyDan> hlx: now I can open up a package, apply some source code edits, and pack it back up again
[04:15] <DaemonFC> yep
[04:15] <hlx> ChogyDan: Will look into that then, thanks
[04:15] <Li_On_> i believe so...i can't say im too familiar with the distro names...
[04:15] <DasEi> !version | Li_On_
[04:16] <Drakon> well i had it set up so i could watch movies from my computer through my xbox onto my big screen tv via ethernet connection... is there a way that anyone knows that i could do that?
[04:16] <hlx> like via Tversity? or windows media centre connector
[04:16] <hlx> I would think you could do it with SAMBA
[04:16] <DasEi>  Li_On_ : for karmic : http://tiny.cc/kDdv0
[04:16] <Drakon> umm it just sorta connected to be honest... and i could look through my computers video files
[04:17] <Drakon> it was on xp
[04:17] <jken146> Drakon: It sounds like a job for Samba
[04:17] <jken146> !samba | Drakon
[04:17] <Drakon> well... it's a place to start :)
[04:17] <tp43> Alphex, did you try #bash?
[04:17] <Geoffrey2> hey folks, I burned a CD in the CD/DVD creator, I got a message the burn was successful, and yet I still show a Blank CD on the Desktop, and clicking on it takes me back to the CD/DVD creator
[04:17] <songer> jken146,  after some time in firefox on megavideo audio disappears
[04:18] <tp43> songer, yeah, I noticed, and you have to restart.  wierd
[04:18] <Alphex> ty for the chan
[04:18] <Li_On_> yes, it is Karmic after all...(im learning here...)
[04:19] <jken146> songer: Audio in linux can be a pain. Sometimes I find kicking the sound preferences options GUI thing helps (switching between the 'hardware' options)
[04:19] <songer> jken146, that's why i'm lookiong for flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:19] <Li_On_> i find installing stuff is lot easier too with the Synaptic Manager
[04:19] <Li_On_> you just take what you need and boom, done.
[04:19] <illyume> Hey, I'm looking for a program that will allow me to play mp3 files at reduced speeds (such as 1/2x or 1/4x) to help me learn some pieces by ear. Are there any packages in Ubuntu's repository that will do this, or will allow me to edit a .mp3 file to half speed?
[04:20] <DasEi> Li_On_: depends on, cmd-line is much faster, if you answer to someone, put their nick in what you say so there your message gets highlighted
[04:20] <illyume> I maybe should ask that in a different channel, but eh.
[04:20] <songer> but i've not find flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:20] <Li_On_> DasEi : like this
[04:20] <DasEi> y,  Li_On_
[04:21] <Berzerker> anyone help? I'm stuck at memtest when booting, accidentally set it as default
[04:21] <ImALittleNuts> where is the normal or good location for a svn repo
[04:21] <jken146> songer: It seems to be in multiverse
[04:21] <ardchoille> Berzerker: I never mess with grub because I rarely see that screen
[04:21] <DasEi> Berzerker: grub 2 ?
[04:22] <Li_On_> DasEi : i hear this ping sound when you send me something...when i click the username it opens a "whois" window...is that normal? (im such a noob, im sorry)
[04:22] <Berzerker> yeah
[04:22] <By_Your_Command> I'll Grub you
[04:22] <datz> hi, I have ubuntu server edition. I've installed gnome-desktop, but I can't use the network manager to edit the default eth0 connection.
[04:22] <ardchoille> !grub2
[04:22] <DasEi> Li_On_: it is, which messenger ?
[04:22] <Berzerker> ardchoille, says to hold the shift key, but that doesn't work
[04:22] <songer> i already have it but in terminal type mozilla-plugin-gnash  and it says : Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched
[04:22] <Li_On_> im acutally using ChatZilla as plugin on firefox...
[04:23] <DasEi> Berzerker: /etc/default/grub,  edit with as root, then run update-grub (as root)
[04:23] <Li_On_> (didnt put the nam again, sorry...0
[04:23] <Berzerker> DasEi, I'm not able to get into anything
[04:23] <datz> does anyone know of a way I can gain permission to edit the default eth0 connection?
[04:23] <songer> sorry Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound"
[04:23] <Berzerker> DasEi, right on boot, it goes into memtest
[04:23] <By_Your_Command> I'm not able to not get nothin
[04:23] <DasEi> Berzerker: left shift ? esc at grub loading ? else need to chroot from live cd
[04:24] <DasEi> Li_On_: there are few decent apps for that, highly configurable
[04:24] <datz> anyone know how to manually edit the local IP?
[04:24] <jken146> songer: you're right -- apt-cache search flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound turns up nothing for me; yet packages.ubuntu.com claims it exists
[04:24] <datz> there must be a file somewhere
[04:25] <ve5dt> Bye for now
[04:25] <By_Your_Command> yeah goto ETH0 Auto and change to manually set IP
[04:25] <By_Your_Command> heh
[04:25] <hyperstream> Drakon, im here mate :P
[04:25] <datz> By_Your_Command: I can't edit that config profile
[04:25] <lao5> .h
[04:25] <songer> ok
[04:25] <datz> By_Your_Command: I can't edit or delete it
[04:25] <By_Your_Command> by your clock where it shows your network is connected
[04:26] <ardchoille> jken146: the website pool has all the different ubuntu releases, and you're only on one release, this is why you see a diff between the site and the package manager
[04:26] <DasEi> !messenger | Li_On_ , and evolution , as said amongst others are common
[04:26] <By_Your_Command> right click and choose edit connections
[04:26] <datz> By_Your_Command: it isn't highlighted, I can't choose it
[04:26] <DasEi> datz: /etc/network/interfaces
[04:26] <Li_On_> ubottu : really? at the same time??
[04:27] <DasEi> !brain | Li_On_
[04:27] <datz> DasEi, thanks I'll give it a try
[04:27] <ardchoille> jken146: for instance, trayer is available for Jaunty but not for Karmic, yet you'll still see it in packages.ubuntu.com
[04:27] <By_Your_Command> edit the interface script then
[04:27] <DasEi> datz: edit as root, ask if unsure, then restart network
[04:27] <By_Your_Command> sudo -i
[04:28] <jken146> ardchoille: I know that. This package is listed as being in intrepid, jaunty, karmic and lucid [multiverse]. I'm using karmic, and have multiverse in sources.list. Yet apt sees no package.
[04:28] <datz> DasEi: ok got it, as it is set for DHCP now, I don't know where to enter the static IP
[04:28] <ardchoille> jken146: which package?
[04:28] <DasEi> datz: open a trml ...
[04:28] <datz> DasEi: under auto eth0?
[04:28] <By_Your_Command> change the script to static and type it in
[04:28] <DasEi> datz: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:29] <live_wire> can someone please help me get back in to ubuntu?
[04:29] <datz> ok
[04:29] <jken146> ardchoille: and it appears it's the same for songer. flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:29] <raddad> Question: Get this error trying to run rhythmbox "2NVIDIA OpenGL Driver requires CPUs with SSE to run." running 9.1 on an old 800mhz machine.  Anyway around the driver issue?
[04:29] <ardchoille> jken146: you can ask the bot with:  !info package_name
[04:29] <DasEi> datz: pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces
[04:29] <datz> k
[04:29] <ardchoille> !info flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:29] <DasEi> datz: give resulting url in here
[04:29] <lanzha> ubuntu 10.04?
[04:29] <hlx> how do i search packages on apt? looking for F4L
[04:29] <lanzha> where I can download ubuntu 10.04?
[04:29] <DasEi> hlx: apt-cache search or show
[04:29] <By_Your_Command> DasEi pastebin this.... ->
[04:29] <ardchoille> jken146: shows up in my package manager and I'm on Karmic
[04:30] <Li_On_> DasEi : so ubottu is actually some type of AI or something?
[04:30] <hlx> DasEi: Thanks.
[04:30] <ardchoille> !bot
[04:30] <By_Your_Command> We are all AI
[04:30] <ardchoille> haha
[04:30] <hlx> just a generic IRC bot thats programmed to respond to certain commands with data
[04:30] <datz> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f7aa0172
[04:30] <hlx> i feel matrix-ish unplugged being in the rabbit hole that is linux
[04:30] <DasEi> Li_On_: it's a ro-bot that gets triggered by ! and a factoid like :
[04:30] <DasEi> Karmic
[04:30] <DasEi> !karmic
[04:30] <lanzha> http://bayawak.tk
[04:30] <hyperstream> !lucid
[04:30] <By_Your_Command> !fool
[04:31] <iflema> datz ifconfig configures network interfaces on the command line..... type man ifconfig for details....
[04:31] <Flannel> Li_On_: #ubuntu+1 can help you
[04:31] <Berzerker> wow
[04:31] <Berzerker> this is irritating
[04:31] <Berzerker> tried reinstalling from live-cd, STILL boots into memtest by default
[04:31] <By_Your_Command> All we owe...We owe to her...
[04:31] <datz> iflema: humm, I didn't think could set a static IP with ifconfig, I'll check it out
[04:32] <iflema> datz sure can and more
[04:32] <Li_On_> DasEi : interesting...smart even...
[04:32] <hlx> Berzerker - tried something like acronis or gparted to set the ubunt partition to active?
[04:32] <arand> Berzerker: Does your grub config file specify a default entry?
[04:32] <Berzerker> arand, yes, 0
[04:32] <By_Your_Command> datz: edit your network scripts and then restart networking
[04:32] <Berzerker> arand, grub.cfg reports the correct kernel as the first entry
[04:32] <Berzerker> arand, holding SHIFT on boot doesn't show the menu
[04:32] <hlx> oh, grub *runs*
[04:32] <arand> Berzerker: Ok, was just checking the simple solutions..
[04:33] <iflema> datz e.g. ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 up
 Sorry, I don't know anything about fool
[04:33] <By_Your_Command> haha
[04:34] <hlx> zerk: what caused this in the first place? hdd get shaken abby sydrome or something
[04:34] <hlx> baby t.t
[04:34] <By_Your_Command> !bizmark
[04:34] <settntrenz> were changes implemented in 9.10 that require you to configure nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces as opposed to /etc/resolv.conf? I noticed that my resolv.conf now has "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND" and of course any edits are scrapped on boot.
[04:34] <By_Your_Command> !datz
[04:34] <DasEi> datz : for a static address : http://pastebin.com/m3ff5c3a9
[04:34] <ardchoille> !msgthebot
[04:34] <Berzerker> hlx, installed 2.6.32, the uninstalled due to wifi not working
[04:34] <datz> thanks DasEi
[04:35] <datz> and thanks iflema
[04:35] <datz> and By_Your_Command lol
[04:35] <raddad> ! SSE
[04:35] <Li_On_> anybody know of a way to grab the music off my ipod using Ubuntu? Is that even possible?
[04:35] <DasEi> datz: fit to your needs, save the file, enter : sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:36] <Li_On_> Wanna backup but dont know how...
[04:36] <jken146> ardchoille: This is Weird. I'm using gb.archive.ubuntu.com and if I browse that then I find the actual package on the server, as I'd expect. But I *don't* find it in http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages.gz (that's where apt get's the package list, right?)
[04:36] <DasEi> !ipod | Li_On_
[04:36] <By_Your_Command> Li_On I use Banshee to do Ipod stuff on Ubuntu
[04:36] <By_Your_Command> !RockBox
[04:36] <datz> DasEi: great restarting now
[04:36] <Li_On_> DasEi : you're good...thank you...
[04:36] <ardchoille> jken146: I believe so
[04:36] <DasEi> datz: hoe do you connect ? router ?
[04:37] <raddad> !SSE
[04:37] <iflema> Li_On_  try rhythmbox
[04:37] <By_Your_Command> !hoe
[04:37] <ardchoille> jken146: Syncing issues maybe?
[04:37] <jken146> I guess so
[04:37] <ardchoille> jken146: between gb and main?
[04:37] <DasEi> !phishing | raddad, By_Your_Command
[04:37] <DasEi> !fishing
[04:37] <By_Your_Command> !phishing
[04:37] <raddad> is it a bad thing when an info bot responds to your inquiry with dumb looks?
[04:37] <Li_On_> DasEi: so, all i need to do to ask ubottu for info is place the symbol in front of my keyword?...
[04:38]  * jken146 facepalms
[04:38] <hlx> !glade
[04:38] <By_Your_Command> !saltpeter
[04:38] <ardchoille> By_Your_Command: please stop
[04:38] <jken146> ardchoille: architecture. It's not available for x86_64
[04:38] <datz> DasEi: yea, I set everything.
[04:38] <hlx> !glade-gnome-2
[04:38] <DasEi> Li_On_: nah, there are only certain triggers, read again following pm, general questions are placed in channel
[04:38] <ardchoille> jken146: Ah, that explains it
[04:38] <By_Your_Command> Must Continue
[04:38] <datz> DasEi: although there were some errors and I lost my connection when I restarted netowrking
[04:38] <MindVirus> My Xorg process is taking up 140MB.
[04:38] <DasEi> !brain > Li_On_
[04:38] <MindVirus> Can I lower this?
[04:39] <jken146> songer: Are you using 64 bit?
[04:39] <datz> DasEi: I uncommented gateway and edited everything to my needs
[04:39] <DasEi> datz: right network segment ? right netmask ?
[04:39] <Steve99> .mute ##csharp
[04:39] <By_Your_Command> !ardchoille
[04:39] <datz> DasEi: just restarting the VM now, one sec
[04:39] <songer> jken146,  yeap
[04:39] <ardchoille> !ops | By_Your_Command
[04:40] <live_wire> I have changed my graphics resolution and now ubuntu refuses to boot.  Only receieve a black screen.  Any help?
[04:40] <jken146> songer: then you can't have flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound
[04:40] <By_Your_Command> Help Channel emergency?
[04:40] <DasEi> datz: that won't change a thing
[04:40] <Flannel> By_Your_Command: Please help keep this channel ontopic.  You're being disruptive and making it difficult for people to get support.
[04:40] <ardchoille> By_Your_Command: Please stop playing with the bot
[04:40] <raddad> lol
[04:40] <songer> where you read it'
[04:41] <hlx> will the bot respond to me if i PM it commands? to not flood channel
[04:41] <jken146> songer: packages.ubuntu.com say's it's only available for the i386 architecture
[04:41] <datz> DasEi: I didn't think so, let me give you the errors
[04:41] <songer> jken146,
[04:41] <By_Your_Command> ok
[04:41] <Li_On_> DasEi : thats cool
[04:41] <Flannel> hlx: It will
[04:41] <hlx> Thanks.
[04:41] <songer> jken146,  thanks
[04:42] <songer> so i don't have a soluion?
[04:42] <DasEi> datz: you can switch it back to dhcp, then use ifconfig for correct values, vm defaults to a 10.10... address
[04:42] <Rutro> So is there someone here who could possibly help a pretty noob linux user?
[04:42] <Berzerker> wow finally got it to work
[04:42] <hlx> Depends on how you have your VM setup, what VM service are you using?
[04:42] <ardchoille> Rutro: With what?
[04:42] <DasEi> !ask | rutro
[04:42] <By_Your_Command> Rutro: what's going on?
[04:43] <Rutro> Well I am trying to learn some Linux information, i am having an issue right now where when i restart my machine my network settings dont start automatically?
[04:43] <By_Your_Command> chkconfig network on
[04:43] <ardchoille> Rutro: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:43] <datz> DasEi: ok, here are the errors though.  SIOCADDRT : No such process. Failed to bring up eth0
[04:44] <By_Your_Command> oh wait this is Ubuntu
[04:44] <datz> I'll change back to other config and try the ifconfig method
[04:44] <hlx> datz: What VM are you using> VMware? MSVPC? Something else? Do you get a valid address via dhcp? Is your network adapter set to bridged on the VM?
[04:45] <DasEi> datz: virtual box ? address:10.0.2.15  Bcast:10.0.2.255
[04:46] <live_wire> It appears startup-manager has completely crashed my install of linux, so frustrated
[04:46] <Ether> hey guys... how can I unmount a mount point?
[04:47] <Ether> I tried unmount, but it doesnt work
[04:47] <By_Your_Command> umount /dev/?
[04:47] <hlx> datz: how is your VM networking set up? Does your 10.10 address bridge t oyour local network and share?
[04:47] <datz> DasEi: vmware workstation
[04:47] <Flannel> Ether: It's umount, not unmount
[04:47] <DasEi> Ether: a device, not a mountpoint, like sudo umount /dev/sda1
[04:47] <Ether> oh
[04:47] <Ether> heh
[04:47] <datz> yea I get a valid address via DHCP
[04:47] <Ether> thank you
[04:47] <DasEi> np
[04:48] <DasEi> datz: ifconfig tells which address/mask ?
[04:48] <datz> yea
[04:48] <DasEi> so ?
[04:48] <datz> one sec
[04:48] <By_Your_Command> and?
[04:48]  * datz goes to attach irssi screen in VM
[04:49] <juan__> !foo
[04:49] <juan__> hi im reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic but seems it only explain how to package/build  on packages that already are on ubuntu repo,I.E. it uses apt-get source,i want a guide for packages that  are not on ubuntu repo,any link???
[04:49] <jken146> juan__: You want to look up the Debian packaging guidelines
[04:49] <Li_On_> good night everyone. thanks for the great first experience. will return for sure.
[04:50] <DasEi> !packaging | juan__
[04:50] <live_wire> jken146...
[04:50] <By_Your_Command> so long...
[04:50] <hlx> another one converted :D
[04:50] <datz> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/m6d261f99
[04:50] <juan__> jken146: but these talk about building, i want to package fonts, cant build fonts
[04:50] <juan__> :/
[04:51] <freeride> where to find apt.conf
[04:51] <live_wire> By_Your_Command...
[04:51] <By_Your_Command> Yes?
[04:51] <live_wire> ok, just making sure my post are getting out there
[04:51] <juan__> just .ttf files
[04:51] <datz> I'll try what iflema said: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0 up
[04:51] <jken146> juan__: or look at the Ubuntu Packaging Guide (ubottu just gave the link)!
[04:52] <By_Your_Command> yes I just don't know about install manager
[04:52] <By_Your_Command> ;(
[04:52] <datz> although I'm not sure where to enter the staic address
[04:52] <hlx> datz: no gateway?
[04:52] <datz> I see the gateway and mask
[04:52] <hlx> oh, i didnt see it on the pastebin, maybe im blind
[04:52] <datz> gateway is 192.168.1.1
[04:52] <iflema> datz obviously those numbers are an example... thats done on the command line
[04:53] <jken146> juan__: http://www.willnichols.me.uk/progs/debpack/ seems like a good place to start
[04:53] <datz> iflema: yes, but where to enter the staic IP?
[04:53] <live_wire> ya, so far it's lookin like a re-install
[04:53] <hlx> /etc/network/interfaces is it not
[04:53] <DasEi> datz : eth0 inet static   <br> address  192.168.1.129  <br> Netmask 255.255.255.0   (<br> means new line, don't type that in interfaces)
[04:53] <iflema> datz :|
[04:53] <datz> DasEi: thanks
[04:54] <DasEi> datz: and leave that auto eth0 in front
[04:54] <juan__> jken146: lol, i come from these guide, it explain using an example of a package that already exist on the ubuntu repo and build, i want to package .ttf and its not in the repo
[04:54] <DasEi> !ttf | juan__
[04:55] <juan__> omg
[04:55] <jken146> juan__: If you just want to install a font... yes
[04:55] <juan__> no
[04:55] <DasEi> ah, sry
[04:55] <datz> DasEi: I'll try it thanks
[04:55] <juan__> i know whats a font, and how to install them
[04:55] <By_Your_Command> woobie woobie...
[04:56] <jken146> juan__: Right. So you want to build a package to distribute fonts?
[04:56] <metalf8801> I messed up virtualbox by installing both the ose and the newest edition which isn't open and now I'm getting a error message that says to reinstall the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'  but when I try that it says "sudo: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: command not found" if anyone has any ideas of what I should try next that would be great
[04:56] <juan__> i try to start with REVU, but too much different from Guides to my situation
[04:56] <live_wire> ok, when done editing (e) a line in grub2.. how do you save it?
[04:57] <jken146> live_wire: In which file?
[04:57] <juan__> i know how to package, but usually i package .ttf, wallpapers, .exe, and such
[04:57] <DasEi> metalf8801: wrong chan here ; de-install one , then see FAQ's on vb-homepage
[04:57] <jken146> juan__: So what do you want to achieve?
[04:57] <arand> juan__: #ubuntu-motu is more specifically for packaging help (although not as busy).
[04:58] <juan__> i come from #ubuntu-motu back to here :/
[04:58] <pckt__> hi
[04:58] <live_wire> jken146:  the first option to boot in to ubuntu 9.10
[04:58] <iflema> juan_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[04:58] <metalf8801> DasEi I only have the newer version of virtualbox installed and it was working before
[04:58] <DasEi> juan__: so you got a font.. whre is it located ?
[04:59] <juan__> DasEi: my disk ATM
[04:59] <live_wire> i need to erase vga=795 only it doesn't save it
[04:59] <juan__> DasEi: and i got in a .DEB
[04:59] <DasEi> juan__: so you got a package already then
[04:59] <juan__> DasEi: but REVU only allows upload sources, how to upload sources from a .TTF files?, lol
[05:00] <jken146> juan__: I really don't understand what your goal is.
[05:00] <juan__> jken146, DasEi : you know REVU?
[05:00] <antonius> does the lucid daily build come with yahoo toolbar?
[05:00] <jken146> !grub2 | live_wire
[05:01] <DasEi> juan__: no, a packaging tool ?
[05:01] <live_wire> thanks
[05:01] <juan__> !revu > DasEi
[05:01] <juan__> sort of
[05:01] <juan__> or process or whatever
[05:02] <jken146> juan__: yeah ... it's a tool for reviewing package changes ...
[05:02] <datz> DasEi: config: http://pastebin.com/f607d712d  error : http://pastebin.com/m7fe91371
[05:02] <DasEi> juan__: I have no touch with that, I'd set up a ppa and ask people to check it
[05:02] <datz> could have put em in one paste I guess
[05:02] <Berzerker> anyone here use thunderbird 3.0 (shredder) on ubuntu?
[05:03] <DasEi> datz: remove the '# in line 21 interfaces, try again
[05:03] <datz> ok
[05:03] <juan__> i got .TTF, and .DEB with .TTFs that install perfectly,i try to join REVU,REVU says sources only(.dsc, .diff.gz, .changes, and such),PPA dont work for me
[05:04] <jken146> juan__: Why are you trying to join REVU?
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> juan__: REVU is for reviewing source packages, nothing else.
[05:04] <jken146> juan__: You have a package thet contains a font. What are you trying to do with it?
[05:04] <juan__> jken146: to make my packaging work avaliable to everyone, to fix "need-packaging bugs"
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> juan__: If you actually made a package, you have the source.
[05:05] <juan__> tonyyarusso: how you get the build sources of .TTF files?
[05:06] <rumpsy> moin moin
[05:06] <tonyyarusso> juan__: That hardly even makes sense at all.  You said you *already* had a package, did you not?
[05:06] <juan__> maybe a guide for non-buildable files is missing on the WIKI...
[05:06] <By_Your_Command> Cylons stole it
[05:07] <juan__> i already have a package
[05:07] <datz> DasEi: Ignoring Unknown interface inet=inet <br> Ignoring unknow interface static=static
[05:07] <datz> now only lo comes up with ifconfig
[05:07] <DasEi> datz:see above..., second, pastie in progress
[05:07] <jken146> juan__: So, do you want to have this package included in Ubuntu?
[05:07] <datz> ok
[05:07] <By_Your_Command> !toot
[05:08] <By_Your_Command> what the heck
[05:08] <juan__> i got .deb with the .ttf files inside, install perfectly on ubuntu, but packaging guide ask for many things that you cant do with non-buildable files
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> juan__: okay, how did you get the TTF file "inside" the .deb file?
[05:09] <juan__> yes, i want to fix "need-packaging" bugs
[05:09] <juan__> using a template and making the .deb
[05:09] <DasEi> datz: http://pastebin.com/m17b3f490
[05:10] <bazhang> By_Your_Command, stay on topic and no more nonsense factoids
[05:10] <juan__> fonts,it only ask for ubuntu-standad meta-package, and a post-install script that refresh font cache
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> juan__: what template, and "making" how?
[05:12] <juan__> template are directory and files edited manually
[05:12] <juan__> since a .deb its just a compressed file
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> juan__: um, that's not how building a deb works...
[05:12] <hlx> i think he wants to reverse engineer one, or extract it
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> juan__: why don't you download the source package for an existing font set and analyze that?
[05:13] <juan__> /home/juan/base_tmp/DEBIAN/control rules postinst
[05:13] <Speedy2> Hey all.  Is there a program that lets you interactively configure Upstart & start-up services?
[05:13] <rumpsy> datz: Can i help you
[05:13] <DasEi> !bum | Speedy2
[05:13] <Speedy2> DasEi: Does BUM actually works properly with Upstart?  I know of it.
[05:13] <juan__> tonyyarusso: i know, but i dont find any guide that explain me how to package with non-buildable non-on-repos files
[05:14] <DasEi> Speedy2: yes, least the services it offers
[05:14] <datz> DasEi: guess what, everything is working fine. Thanks alot
[05:14] <DasEi> datz: welcome
[05:14] <rumpsy> datz: Try this, i made a small change in that, i added a indent in that, http://pastie.org/817752
[05:14] <datz> I just wonder why I can't edit my GUI network interface
[05:14] <datz> ok
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> juan__: what do you mean "non-buildable"?  They all work the same, just with different rules files.
[05:14] <juan__> cant build a .TTF file
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> juan__: you don't need to...
[05:15] <juan__> REVU says build sources only
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> juan__: That's correct.
[05:15] <juan__> im confused
[05:16] <DasEi> datz: the gui thingy is network-manager, the pro solution is interfaces (oversides nw-mnger)
[05:16] <DasEi> overrides*
[05:16] <datz> true
[05:16] <datz> but not as easy to use. :P
[05:17] <Berzerker> anyone here use thunderbird 3.0 (shredder) on ubuntu?
[05:17] <hlx> you got your feet wet. when you do it a couple times it becomes easy
[05:17] <DasEi> datz: depends on your needs
[05:17] <zeltak> hya
[05:17] <Izinucs> Berzerker: yep
[05:17] <jken146> juan__: Get hold of the source for an existing font package and look at where the TTF or OTF files go in there..
[05:17] <zeltak> just got a 2tb drive but gparted only sees 1tb..anyone have any experience with this?
[05:18] <Speedy2> zeltak: What does fdisk -l show for it?
[05:18] <juan__> jken146: i already do that long time ago
[05:18] <juan__> jken146: i learned like that, umpacking packages
[05:18] <juan__> make a base clone
[05:19] <flah> hi all... i'm a current mac user thinking about jumping to ubuntu... any suggestions on dual core 4gb ram 320 gb 256/512 vram laptops ... something as durable as a mac (my last two mac laptops lasted me 4-5 years)
[05:19] <Berzerker> Izinucs, have you gotten a good way to make it minimize to tray?
[05:19] <zeltak> Speedy2: Disk /dev/sdb: 2000.4 GB, 2000397852160 bytes
[05:19] <datz> DasEi: yes it does. btw, new changes are working. Was it just spacing?
[05:19] <juan__> and modify and recompress
[05:19] <brenden__> ..
[05:19] <jken146> juan__: Right, ok, so your only problem is uploading it to REVU, correct?
[05:19] <datz> otherwise I didn't see the change
[05:19] <DasEi> datz: no, but typos
[05:19] <Speedy2> zeltak: Did you try gparted from a sysreccd?  That's what I'd suggest.
[05:19] <datz> humm
[05:19] <datz> I wonder if I pasted the same thing twice or something
[05:19] <juan__> .deb = AR compressed file with TAR inside with GZ inside, kinda triple compression
[05:19] <hlx> datz: you had an area that was something to the liking of 'auto inet static' that should have been 'auto eth0'
[05:19] <Izinucs> Berzerker: no.. haven't really tried.. even Evolution didn't do that for me.. Korganizer in kde does though..
[05:19] <zeltak> k will try that, thx Speedy2
[05:19] <DasEi> datz: # in front of line is a comment, no cammand
[05:20] <DasEi> o*
[05:20] <jake__> whats a good deb repo other than getdeb?
[05:20] <DasEi> jake__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources
[05:20] <jken146> juan__: Yes, but what is the actual problem you're having?
[05:20] <pkm4o93> juan__: isnt it wasteful to compress things three times? or are the compressions different
[05:21] <norbert> hi, where do I get libguicast from? (I tried apt-file search and apt-cache search, no results; also tried Google, no pointers)
[05:21] <datz> DasEi: ah ok
[05:21] <datz> that's why I didn't notice it
[05:21] <juan__> jken146: MOTU says follow guide, gime that files, follow rules, i dont understand the Guide,cant make the requested files
[05:22] <datz> I commented out everything from earlier. :P
[05:22] <DasEi> datz : eth0 inet static   <br> address  192.168.1.129  <br> Netmask 255.255.255.0   (<br> means new line, don't type that in interfaces)
[05:22] <jken146> juan__: Which part of which guide?
[05:22] <juan__> jken146: because not a program, not buildable, not on repos, not patch, or diff or whatever
[05:22] <DasEi> datz: have   a look now and check <br>
[05:23] <juan__> jken146: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Basic
[05:23] <juan__> apt-get source hello-debhelper
[05:23] <jken146> juan__: OK, what part of that don't you understand?
[05:23] <juan__> lol
[05:24] <KamusHadenes>  please, what capture cards and cameras do you recommend for an internal cftv server
[05:24] <juan__> apt-get source /home/myfont.ttf LOL!
[05:24] <KamusHadenes> ?*
[05:25] <jken146> juan__: apt-get source  will download the source package (as opposed to the binary package) to the current directory
[05:25] <crawler> I have an Ubuntu question.  Why is Minimize/Maximize disabled for certain windows such as Appearance Preferences?
[05:25] <datz> DasEi: everyting's working fine. I'll leave it alone for now, thanks
[05:25] <juan__> i mean i allways make a Quick'N'Dirty packages, i want to go PRO, and i dont know how
[05:25] <DasEi> datz: was just for you to revise, no changes needed
[05:26] <ircbb> help please?!  After a power failure I cannot start ubuntu. I get to "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" and the screen says "(initramfs)".
[05:26] <juan__> jken146: the TTF is on my disk, not on repo, how suppose to continue the Guide?
[05:26] <arand> juan__: Have a look at the source for ubuntu-artwork, that's an example package with no building binaries I think.
[05:26] <hlx> question, for python, whats the best UI designer out there? Glade? Or just do it by hand in emacs
[05:26] <datz> DasEi: got ya. I see the diff from that above
[05:26] <juan__> arand: downloading
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> juan__: um, you're reading the part of the guide that's for instroducing you to the concept, and you're suppose to follow along exactly, but trying to jump ahead to building your own package from scratch several steps later.
[05:27] <jken146> juan__: That's an example, to teach you about the structure of Ubuntu packages. They want you to get a real official package and take it apart. It's a tutorial
[05:27] <DasEi> datz: <br> is from html, <cr> (carriage return) from other code (formerly typewriters)
[05:28] <juan__> will continue stripping packages
[05:28] <rumpsy> What is that <br> and <cr> ? o_O
[05:28] <juan__> Thanks!!!
[05:28] <jken146> juan__: Hope that helped!
[05:28] <juan__> me too, LOL
[05:29] <crawler> One more question: When using the Ubuntu partition of my laptop, my balls itch less than when using the Windows Vista partition.  Any insight as to why this might be?
[05:30] <hlx> Bill gates has crabs.
[05:30] <rww> ubottu: ot | hlx
[05:30] <hlx> got it, sorry
[05:30] <datz> DasEi: I got the html ;)
[05:30] <rww> crawler: you also ;P
[05:30] <bazhang> crawler, that is not appropriate here, please stop immediately
[05:30] <datz> haha the <cr> not so much
[05:31] <DasEi> heh :-D, anything additional ? else have fun
[05:31] <hlx> repost, question: is glade the choice for python ui development? or is there a better alternative? or just program it by hand
[05:31] <rww> hlx: If you don't get an answer in here, you might want to try asking in #python.
[05:31] <hlx> oh that is a channel
[05:31] <hlx> will do
[05:31] <rww> yeah
[05:32] <hlx> bleh, +r, how do i register
[05:32] <rww> ubottu: register | hlx
[05:32] <hlx> ty
[05:32] <datz> DasEi: nope I don't think so, and yes I will have fun as I don't have to forward differnt ports everytime my VM restarts. :P
[05:33] <droid7> what's the package name of the application that installs language support?
[05:33] <rickbee> can i get help with initramfs
[05:33] <KamusHadenes>  please, what capture cards and cameras do you recommend for an internal cftv server?
[05:36] <DasEi> rickbee: details ?
[05:36] <no-name> hi is thier a way to have my machine automatically turn itself off at a specific time?
[05:37] <DasEi> no-name: man shutdown tells you
[05:37] <hlx> ^ will that activate in sleep?
[05:38] <DasEi> hlx: yes and no, as it sends broadcasts disrupting sleep
[05:38] <jken146> no-name: shutdown will do that, e.g. sudo shutdown -h 15:45
[05:39] <no-name> jken146 ty
[05:39] <DasEi> !details | rickbee
[05:40] <septim> why my ubuntu theme doesnt apply properly?
[05:40] <rumpsy> septim: what theme you selected?
[05:40] <septim> all of them
[05:40] <septim> metacity draws properly
[05:40] <droid7> septim: do you have the proper gtk-engines installed?
[05:41] <rumpsy> _O
[05:41] <septim> but gtk doesnt change anything
[05:41] <septim> gtk-engines?
[05:41] <rickbee> i had a power failure with ubuntu karmic. now when I boot I reach the loading screen but /sbin/init is not found and (initramfs) comes up.
[05:41] <droid7> septim: what's the theme name?
[05:41] <septim> darkmenus
[05:42] <droid7> hm sounds like the default new wave theme
[05:42] <DasEi> rickbee: you'll have to rebuild initramfs
[05:42] <droid7> should be working by default
[05:42] <septim> yup
[05:42] <rumpsy> septim: At first choose, human, give few seconds to load everthing, and choose, dark menus
[05:42] <septim> ill try
[05:42] <rickbee> DasEi: any pointers on how to do that?
[05:42] <darolu> septim: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:43] <septim> karmic, kern 2.6.17
[05:43] <Chromy> sdasdASDAS
[05:43] <MaKaTiGuY> question: can i install mac os 10 using virtualbox under ubuntu 9.10 host?
[05:43] <Chromy> * Topic for #ubuntu set by jussi01!~jussi01@ubuntu/member/jussi01 at Thu Feb  4 07:04:15 2010
[05:43] <Chromy> -ChanServ- [#ubuntu
[05:44] <Izinucs> MaKaTiGuY: not legally
[05:44] <Chromy> HTTP://WWW.fatalhit.COM
[05:44] <Chromy> HTTP://WWW.fatalhit.COM
[05:44] <Chromy> HTTP://WWW.fatalhit.COM
[05:44] <Chromy> HTTP://WWW.fatalhit.COM
[05:44] <Chromy> HTTP://WWW.fatalhit.COM
[05:44] <FloodBot2> Chromy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:44] <rumpsy> creeper
[05:44] <FloodBot2> Chromy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:44] <MaKaTiGuY> Izinucs: technically?
[05:44] <Izinucs> MaKaTiGuY: can't say
[05:45] <DasEi> rickbee: I used to use a live cd and chrooted in the broken sys, then used sudo update-initramfs, option I'd have too look up myself
[05:45] <DasEi> !who
[05:46] <DasEi> rickbee: have a live cd handy ?
[05:46] <rickbee> how can i tell if the superblock is bad? or what is wrong if only some partitions are mountable?
[05:46] <rickbee> DasEi: yes I have the live cd
[05:46] <DasEi> rickbee: (e2)fsck
[05:46] <DasEi> rickbee: boot into that, come back here
[05:47] <DasEi> (on the faulty comp)
[05:47] <rickbee> DasEi: ok, thanks
[05:47] <paotzu> rickbee: if it is ext3 you can use backup superblock
[05:47] <paotzu> rickbee: do dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep superblock or dev/whatever
[05:48] <paotzu> rickbee: assuming it is not mounted
[05:49] <MaKaTiGuY> is there an ultimate guide to install mac os x using virtualbox under ubuntu 9.10 host?
[05:49] <DreaDy_HK> hi brothers i have a problem when install imspector say this error "imspector.h:40:25: error: openssl/ssl.h: No existe el fichero ó directorio
[05:49] <DreaDy_HK> "
[05:50] <DasEi> MaKaTiGuY: wrong chan, try their HP or ##vbox
[05:50] <Izinucs> MaKaTiGuY: providing information on that is against the CoC, Mac's eula, and general morality.. you'll have to find your answers elsewhere.
[05:50] <septim> rumpsy: clearlooks failed, newwave failed, basically everything failed coz
[05:51] <paotzu> plus OS X is weak
[05:51] <mezquitale> DreaDy_HK, youre trying to install an application named "imspector"?  It looks like you dont have the openssl header file ssl.h
[05:51] <rumpsy> septim: what?
[05:51] <Berzerker> Izinucs, look up minimizetotray plus, author added linux support, works pretty well
[05:51] <DreaDy_HK> openssl ?
[05:52] <septim> rumpsy: ubuntu theme doesnt work
[05:52] <DreaDy_HK> fil ssl.h in the folder of program ?
[05:52] <acidtonic> so I was a dolt and forgot to turn on gatewayports before trying a remote forward from a machine at a friends, now my public server is only listening on localhost. What is the netcat usage to expose a new listening port and redirect it to a loopback listening port?
[05:52] <DreaDy_HK> i dont have a file ssl.h in the folder of program
[05:52] <MaKaTiGuY> ok, thanks
[05:52] <Izinucs> Berzerker: ah cool.. although I don't have a reference on this computer.. there's also a nice plugin for importing vcards.. something thunderbird has lacked forever
[05:52] <rumpsy> septim: i think, you installed some external themes, like morphing ubuntu to look like mac or windows
[05:52] <Berzerker> yeah I only use it for mail though, got my exchange account for my contacts/calendar :P
[05:52] <septim> yup
[05:52] <DasEi> DreaDy_HK: some more words.. you try to configure ssh ?
[05:53] <rumpsy> septim: o_O
[05:53] <septim> rumpsy: yup
[05:53] <septim> hate it!
[05:53] <DreaDy_HK> sorry brother i dont understand of the configure ssh
[05:53] <DreaDy_HK> how configure ssh ?
[05:53] <paotzu> imspector is an IM client, not ssh. ssl is needed to do jabber.
[05:53] <rumpsy> septim: reset gnome settings may help you
[05:53] <DasEi> !ssh | DreaDy_HK
[05:53] <septim> rumpsy: how to reset gnome settings
[05:53] <infid> i just plugged my ipod touch into my computer but rhythmbox doesn't seem to be recognizing it. how can i get songs onto it in ubuntu?
[05:54] <mezquitale> DasEi, no, he wants to install imspector, the depending he's getting is that openssl/ssl.h doesnt exist
[05:54] <rumpsy> septim: try that, and my advice is don't go for anyother themes expect themes provided by ubuntu
[05:54] <rumpsy> septim: open terminal and goto home dir
[05:54] <paotzu> DreaDy_HK: you might need sudo aptitude install openssl   or openssl-dev
[05:54] <DasEi> mezquitale: thanks
[05:55] <rickbee> DasEi: e2fsck -  should I use -p (automatic reapair)?
[05:55] <DreaDy_HK> i need install a ssh client in my computer ?
[05:55] <mezquitale> infid, it's recognizing it, you just dont know how to use rhythmbox, use amarok and look at the forums on how to do that, there's plenty of information in the forum
[05:55] <DreaDy_HK> i have install openssl in my computer brother
[05:55] <septim> rumpsy: and look for .themes
[05:55] <DasEi> rickbee: yes.. second, open a trml in live cd...
[05:55] <DreaDy_HK> i check in synaptic and i have install
[05:55] <rickysmart> Hey, anyone knows how i get to the irc channel of ubuntu in spanish?
[05:56] <infid> mezquitale: actually i'm now reading that ipod touches have to be jailbroken for ubuntu to recognize them :(
[05:56] <Izinucs> rickysmart: #ubuntu-es
[05:56] <bazhang> rickysmart, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:56] <rumpsy> septim: to reset gnome settings, there is a simple way, follow me if you want
[05:56] <DasEi> rickbee: mount                     <<make sure hd isn't mounted, get device-identifiers
[05:56] <mezquitale> DasEi, I meant to say DreaDy_HK has a failed dependency, it says openssl/ssl.h does not exist
[05:56] <septim> rumpsy: ok
[05:56] <rickysmart> great men, thanks!
[05:56] <rumpsy> septim: open terminal and goto home dir
[05:56] <septim> rumpsy: ok
[05:56] <DasEi> mezquitale: got it, but I don't know imspector
[05:56] <ja660k> where is the pear module directory in ubuntu??
[05:56] <mezquitale> infid, that sucks big time, I was able to use my niece's ipod without problems in my ubuntu machine
[05:57] <rumpsy> septim: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[05:57] <rumpsy> septim: ^^ command
[05:57] <DarthSteedious> Anyone know of a channel for beginner C programming
[05:57] <bazhang> infid, there is a PPA for ifuse
[05:57] <Izinucs> infid: you can thank apple for that.. :(
[05:57] <septim> rumpsy: done
[05:57] <infid> mezquitale: yeah normal ipods work, just not the touch
[05:57] <rumpsy> septim: restart your GMD to take effect
[05:57] <jameschu> hello
[05:57] <DreaDy_HK> i have install openssl in my computer
[05:57] <DasEi> rickbee: so just one /root and one /swap ?
[05:58] <jameschu> who use iodbc?
[05:58] <paotzu> DreDY_HK: try sudo aptitude install libssl-dev
[05:58] <rickbee> DasEi: e2fsck -p in liveCD terminal does not seem to do anything. I'm guessing to use -c (check for badblocks and list them) next.
[05:58] <xtreme-zone> hi there, can someone tell me why I, as root, can't save the nvidia-settings after configuration ?
[05:58] <paotzu> DreaDY_HK: for generic
[05:58] <rumpsy> septim: logoff and login
[05:58] <Izinucs> DreaDy_HK: sudo apt-get install ssh will install client and server of openssl
[05:58] <Izinucs> *ssh
[05:58] <DasEi> rickbee: nah, answer my questions, give feedback, again :
[05:58] <DreaDy_HK> i need the client open ssl for run imspector ?
[05:58] <DasEi> rickbee: mount                     <<make sure hd isn't mounted, get device-identifiers
[05:58] <paotzu> DreaDy_HK: it is requesting the -dev library
[05:59] <DasEi> rickbee: so just one /root and one /swap ?
[05:59] <DasEi> /dev/..??
[05:59] <mezquitale> infid, i guess your first quest is to jailbrake your phone
[05:59] <DreaDy_HK> but to install this librery the system trash 38 files of my sistem
[05:59] <DasEi> rickbee: sudo fdisk -l to list your partitons
[05:59] <paotzu> DreaDY_HK: oh it wants to remove? ok
[06:00] <DreaDy_HK> paotzu
[06:00] <DreaDy_HK> for install dev library the system trash 38 files of my system
[06:00] <ja660k> hello, what directory is the php pear modules in?
[06:00] <rickbee> DasEi: output is rather long to type here. mostly "none on...". I do not see hda* or sda* that I would expect for harddrive partitions, if that's the significant part
[06:01] <DasEi> rickbee: YES
[06:01] <DasEi> rickbee: sudo fdisk -l to list your partitons
[06:01] <DasEi> i*
[06:01] <paotzu> DreaDY_HK: which packages does it want to remove?
[06:01] <DasEi>  /dev/..??  , rickbee
[06:02] <dvinchi> hi
[06:02] <dvinchi> good nigth
[06:02] <DreaDy_HK> thanks brothers for your help
[06:02] <DarthSteedious> Anyone know of a channel for beginner C programming
[06:03] <DasEi> DarthSteedious: #c++
[06:03] <dvinchi> DarthSteedious: #c
[06:03] <DarthSteedious> thanks
[06:04] <paotzu> DreaDY_HK: good luck
[06:04] <DasEi> rickbee: identifier of your root ?
[06:04] <DreaDy_HK> thanks paotzu
[06:04] <qZi> How can I configure my Kumbuntu to use dual 24" screens ?
[06:04] <DreaDy_HK> i save a copy of a files trash
[06:05] <DreaDy_HK> yes, i go to compile the program and this compile ;)
[06:06] <rickbee> DasEi: sudo fdisk - l: /dev/sda1,sda2,sda3,sda5,sda6
[06:06] <DasEi> rickbee: can you pastebin it if unsure which ?
[06:06] <DasEi> !paste
[06:07] <DasEi> rickbee: anyway, syntax is : sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sda1     .. and so on, it only checks valid extd's
[06:08] <rickbee> Dasei: "pastebin: command not found". I don't know what !paste means. Root should be sd2 (extended) or sda6 (Linux)
[06:08] <DasEi> rickbee: sda6 likely
[06:09] <rickbee> So... sudo e2fsck -p /dev/sda6?
[06:09] <DasEi> rickbee: to paste, call http://paste.ubuntu.com  in browser, copy output from trm in there, add name, press post, give url from browser in here (next time)
[06:10] <DasEi> rickbee: yes
[06:12] <Jordan_U> jazz, Same question to you :)
[06:13] <seanbrystone2> is there a Puppy Linux channel?
[06:13] <hyperstream> !mp3 | Drakonslayor
[06:15] <DasEi> rickbee: finished ?
[06:15] <jazz> Jordan_U,  what happened?
[06:16] <ed10> Hi I need help.I have my p.c partitioned (xp & ubuntu)I now cant get my windows to boot up.I would like to get access to my programmes on windows and mount them in ubuntu.I can see the programmes sitting there when I look in the hard drive when running ubuntu,but how do I mount them in ubuntu?I need outlook express for example to get email files and contacts etc.Thanks in advance.
[06:16] <rickbee> DasEi: yes, was trying to connect to irc on the other computer to paste. Anyways, I got "recovering journal", "Clearing orphane inode..." and "cleann..."
[06:16] <rickbee> DasEi: Sounds reassuring
[06:17] <DasEi> rickbee: so it finished without errors ?
[06:17] <rickbee> DasEi: I think so. Was that it?
[06:17] <Jordan_U> jazz, What do you mean?
[06:18] <DasEi> rickbee: unless you want to re-write initramfs, can give it a try, else got to boot in live again
[06:18] <darolu> ed10: You can run them that way, Ubuntu is not Windows, some programs can be run with Wine (a windows emulator); you can try restoring Windows and then reinstalling GRUB to get both systems functional.
[06:18] <jazz> Jordan_U,  you wrote up top same question to u,
[06:18] <Jordan_U> jazz, You asked two hours ago if I was still around
[06:18] <darolu> ed10: you can't* my bad
[06:19] <jazz> Jordan_U,  ha lol yes i did. to say thanks for the help if fixed my hhd
[06:19] <ed10> Thanks,darolu.
[06:19] <Jordan_U> jazz, np
[06:19] <jazz> Jordan_U,  had to go to bios and change boot order
[06:20] <rickbee> DasEi: Sucess! That you so much!
[06:20] <DasEi> ed10: for almost every win app there is a linux derivative, else check out virtual machines to have two OS'es at the same time
[06:20] <DasEi> rickbee: and don't fly away, nice
[06:21] <darolu> seanbrystone2: http://www.puppylinux.org/wikka/PuppyLinuxIRC
[06:21] <seanbrystone2> darolu, thanks i found it :)
[06:21] <septim_> rumpsy: thanks man, but it still doesnt work
[06:21] <rumpsy> what?
[06:22] <septim_> rumpsy: maybe it has sumthin to do with compiz?
[06:22] <septim_> rumpsy: reset gconf
[06:22] <rumpsy> septim_: what theme are you using now!
[06:23] <rumpsy> septim_: After that command, everything should appear with default
[06:23] <septim_> rumpsy: after resetting, now its default
[06:24] <rumpsy> septim_: oh, so what you want now!, more than human theme?
[06:24] <yifan> Hello, is anybody using an Nvidia Quadro graphic card? Thanks for ping me back :)
[06:24] <septim_> rumpsy: nope. now still the same problem with before.
[06:24] <kgs_> Anyone else here notice that cpufreq-selector hangs?
[06:24] <rumpsy> septim_: still can't you change theme?
[06:25] <septim_> rumpsy: example: highinverse theme when activated, everything looks clearlooks again
[06:25] <mezquitale> !anybody | yifan
[06:26] <rumpsy> septim_: i too had the same problem, but solved after that command
[06:27] <septim_> rumpsy: anyway, thanks for the help man. appreciate it. ill find out anyway sooner or later
[06:27] <rumpsy> septim_: change theme with desktop effects !, let we check i that way
[06:27] <rumpsy> in*
[06:27] <rumpsy> !compiz-fusion
[06:29] <knuck> ? pw lock folders?
[06:29] <WAawaawEE> i lost my bottom toolbar =[
[06:29] <WAawaawEE> how do i get it back lol
[06:29] <WAawaawEE> gnome\ubuntu
[06:29] <septim_> WAawaawEE: right click top toolbar
[06:30] <WAawaawEE> whats the bottom one called
[06:30] <WAawaawEE> trying to find it on the list
[06:30] <nanotube> WAawaawEE: right click on existing bar, and select "new panel", and configure it as you like
[06:30] <septim_> WAawaawEE: new panel
[06:30] <interrupt> anyone using cooliris in karmic?
[06:30] <WAawaawEE> yeah im in the add to panel screen
[06:30] <WAawaawEE> i need my bottom toolbar back
[06:30] <knuck> how do i change my root pw?
[06:31] <DasEi> knuck: sudo passwd root
[06:31] <rumpsy> knuck: you should not do that
[06:31] <WAawaawEE> why?
[06:31] <DasEi> knuck: but be aware of /etc/sudoers in look of sudo
[06:32] <rumpsy> knuck: supplying a root password, is like a big hole in your computer for rats
[06:32] <rww> DasEi: The supported way to edit sudo configuration is "visudo", not editing /etc/sudoers directly.
[06:32] <knuck> there isn't any way to just change it in some system settings or something?
[06:32] <septim_> rumpsy: im going off, thanks anyway man again
[06:33] <darolu> knuck: is safer to use sudo, if you need to be root I'd recomend to do $sudo su
[06:33] <rumpsy> septim_: ) , welcome
[06:33] <DasEi> rww: yess.. :)
[06:33] <knuck> ty
[06:33] <rww> !root | knuck
[06:33] <knuck> nah, i know my password
[06:33] <knuck> i just want to change it
[06:34] <rumpsy> AT first root is not a user
[06:34] <blocky> anyone know of a multitrack mixing program?
[06:34] <rww> rumpsy: yes it is, actually. It's just disabled by default on Ubuntu.
[06:34] <ardchoille> knuck: Changing or enabling the root accountis not supported and makes your system much less secure
[06:34] <knuck> well damn. oh well. is there any way to pw lock specific folders?
[06:34] <ardchoille> you can't brute force a locked root account and you can't brute force a user account without the username and password
[06:34] <rumpsy> rww: That is for safety, and security purpose
[06:34] <aiwa> hey i got a program that won't quit. how do i force a program to quit?
[06:35] <royceremer> you just drop to root shell in recovery mode and $pwchange
[06:35] <DaZ> aiwa: killall -9 name
[06:35] <DasEi> aiwa: sudo killall -9 firefox ,f.e.
[06:35] <Maxima> close is by force
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> knuck: That's what standard file permissions are for.
[06:35] <darolu> knuck: root is like god on your pc, you can use it, but just as you can create it you can destroy it, be aware of that; you can do better than pwd protect folders, assign them permissions try $man chmod
[06:35] <jazz> what is a real good program to record desktop activities?
[06:35] <rumpsy> aiwa: check that processes name in system monitor
[06:35] <DaZ> aiwa: or use xkill, kde has it under ctrl+alt+esc shortcut
[06:35] <rww> ubottu: screencast | jazz
[06:35] <ardchoille> "man who play in root eventually kill tree"
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> knuck: if you need them to stay protected in the event of physical system access, go with any of the numerous encryption options.
[06:36] <royceremer> ardchoille: lol
[06:36] <aiwa> ctrk+alt+esc won't do anything
[06:36] <almark1> Hello I can't seem to get Hardy DVD to mount with apt-cdrom add and its position is in my fstab, says Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom1/
[06:36] <almark1> Unmounting CD-ROM
[06:36] <almark1> Waiting for disc...
[06:36] <almark1> Please insert a Disc in the drive and press enter
[06:36] <almark1> Mounting CD-ROM...
[06:36] <FloodBot2> almark1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:36] <almark1> E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[06:36] <rww> ubottu: dontzap | aiwa
[06:36] <git__> anyone here uses KSplice Uptrack?
[06:36] <DaZ> aiwa: probably because you're not using kde right now.
[06:36] <jazz> ty
[06:37] <git__> why does ubuntu insist on using runlevel 2 for GUI?
[06:37] <knuck> ok, i own this computer. i set up a basic root pw and i'm worried anybody could guess it if they knew me. it was a quick fix after a reformat, and i want to make it something a little more complicated
[06:37] <DaZ> i'm just saying gnome should have shortcut as well
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> git__: That's inherited from the Debian upstream, as has been standard there for eons.
[06:37] <Maxima> how can i load SSA subtitle for mplayer??
[06:37] <darolu> knuck: $sudo passwd root
[06:38] <DasEi> git__: what's the matter with it ?
[06:38] <rumpsy> knuck: instead applying passward to root, apply it for grub.. that may safe
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> darolu: Don't tell people how to do that - if they were informed enough to understand the risks, they'd know how to do it already.
[06:38] <Maxima> it gives me "seek failed"
[06:38] <ardchoille> knuck: The point is, with a locked root account you cannot guess the password, the account is locked and for good reason
[06:39] <DasEi> knuck: or use encryption like pgp or truecrypt for that
[06:39] <Drakonslayor> !mp3
[06:39] <git__> the main problem starting GUI at runlevel 2 is because of video driver
[06:39] <Ronald> Winamp 5.57 paused
[06:39] <knuck> but i know the pw. but i'll encrypt the folder after changing my root with sudo
[06:39] <ardchoille> knuck: I've beenusing Ubuntu for 4 years and have never needed to enable the root account, it's just not necessary
[06:39] <git__> sometimes video driver doesn't work for X as expected
[06:39] <git__> and it goes on endless loop
[06:40] <DasEi> git__: ic, ctrl-alt-F1 to troubleshoot ?
[06:40] <viejotren> hi folks, i got 2 questions, #1 what is the best filesystem to encrypt partition?
[06:40] <almark1> could someone pls look at my paste because I can't use apt-cdrom add
[06:40] <almark1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/372994/
[06:40] <mneptok> Ronald: is that a script you are running? if so, please disable it when in Ubuntu channels. thanks.
[06:40] <darolu> viejotren: I personally prefer xfs
[06:41] <viejotren> why? darolu
[06:41] <darolu> viejotren: because it is 64-bit
[06:41] <mneptok> darolu: XFS is not suitable for a /boot addressed by GRUB
[06:41] <DasEi> viejotren: best is always a call in the wilde , ext4 supports cryption well
[06:41] <rumpsy> almark1: okay
[06:41] <SwedeMike> Vlet: personally I do md->luks(cryptsetup)->lvm->xfs for main partitions.
[06:41] <DaZ> lolwut
[06:41] <mneptok> darolu: so are ext filesystems
[06:41] <rumpsy> almark1: try this command, apt-cdrom add
[06:41] <almark1> rumpsy: thanks :)
[06:42] <viejotren> is xfs enough stable?
[06:42] <almark1> rumpsy: it doesn't work still
[06:42] <SwedeMike> viejotren: yes, it's been around since 2000
[06:42] <DaZ> it is.
[06:42] <mneptok> viejotren: do not use XFS for /boot
[06:42] <DaZ> mneptok: because? :f
[06:42] <rumpsy> almark1: first eject the cd out
[06:42] <SwedeMike> you can't encrypt /boot anyway, just run ext3 on it and be fine.
[06:42] <darolu> mneptok: why ext or xfs are not suitable?
[06:42] <viejotren> what should i use mneptok?
[06:42] <mneptok> DaZ: because GRUB has long-standing issues properly addressing XFS partitions
[06:42] <almark1> rumpsy: ok its done
[06:43] <DaZ> it works fine iirc.
[06:43] <rumpsy> almark1: And insert it again, use that command, sudo apt-cdrom add
[06:43] <e3a15> hi
[06:43] <DasEi> DaZ: grub is  using uuids
[06:43] <e3a15> Hi ur there
[06:43] <DasEi> !hi
[06:43] <viejotren> so, is a good practice to encrpyt just /home?
[06:43] <DaZ> DasEi: so?
[06:43] <SwedeMike> viejotren: depends what you can to protect against.
[06:43] <viejotren> just my personal data
[06:43] <viejotren> just that
[06:43] <e3a15> HI i want to configure Asterisk Server on Ubuntu 9.10
[06:43] <WAawaawEE> how do i add my bottom tool bar back - if i goto add to panel i don't see it
[06:44] <almark1> rumpsy: ok I'm about to use it again and the DVD is on top of the two, I have two drives DVD and CD and its mounted auto just a moment
[06:44] <WAawaawEE> i see one called window list... but i can only add that to the top toolbar
[06:44] <SwedeMike> viejotren: then I'd just encrypt /home if I were you, that's what I'm doing on my laptop.
[06:44] <mneptok> DaZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=415623
[06:44] <viejotren> ok swedemike, what kind of filesystem should i use?
[06:44] <Jordan_U> mneptok, Source on the xfs problems? Do they effect grub2?
[06:44] <almark1> rumpsy: the same happened didn't work http://paste.ubuntu.com/372995/
[06:45] <SwedeMike> viejotren: I use xfs on my laptop for /home. Only major drawback with xfs that I know is that it can't be shrunk, only enlarged.
[06:45] <e3a15> HI
[06:45] <e3a15> anyone there
[06:45] <darolu> viejotren: xfs was introduced in 1994 I'd say it is quite stable.
[06:45] <mneptok> Jordan_U: GRUB2 advertises better XFS support, but i still wouldn't trust /boot to XFS. just as i would not trust /boot to any encrypted filesystem.
[06:45] <e3a15> please tell me i want to configure asterisk server on ubuntu 9.10
[06:45] <SwedeMike> e3a15: listen, read the guidelines that was linked to you, then do what it says, and you'll increase your chances of getting an answer.
[06:45] <DaZ> mneptok: thanks
[06:46] <Carutsu> hello, I need to install libstdc++6-4.1, it doesn't seem to be in the mirrors, all I get is the -dev package
[06:46] <DaZ> tho i didn't ever encounter this problem.
[06:46] <Carutsu> is there a place where I can get it?
[06:46] <rumpsy> almark1: or mount the cdrom manually, to a particular location, and try apt-cdrom -d
[06:46] <e3a15> Swedemike can u send me links again
[06:46] <almark1> rumpsy: yes I have done that as well I will do that now
[06:46] <SwedeMike> e3a15: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . You need to learn how to state a question specifically, saying "I need help to configure asterisk" doesn't say anything.
[06:47] <viejotren> ok, thanks a lot guys, ques #2: is about ubuntustudio -sorry the official channel never respond-
[06:47] <SwedeMike> e3a15: you need to state your problem and ask a specific question.
[06:47] <viejotren> how can I ignore the dvd check as installation media?
[06:47] <e3a15> Swedemike my prob is that i want to configure Asterisk server on ubuntu 9.10 How to do so
[06:48] <WAawaawEE> im going to go nuts :P
[06:48] <rumpsy> almark1: if even that's not work, goto to synaptic package manager, and goto repos, press add cdrom button to add cdrom to repo
[06:48] <WAawaawEE> need my damn bottom toolbar back!!!!!! aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:48] <semanticpc> how do i print 5_1_5 ..... echo "$i_$j_$k" in bash ???
[06:48] <SwedeMike> e3a15: that question is way to broad, it's like saying "I need to drive a car on the road, what should I do".
[06:48] <DaZ> WAawaawEE: lolwut?
[06:48] <almark1> rumpsy: that doesn't work as well lol I have tried everything
[06:48] <WAawaawEE> i cant see my list of programs open at the bottom
[06:48] <WAawaawEE> i accidently removed the entire bar
[06:48] <trev> I'm having problems with changes to text files in eclipse not showing up in any other editors, any ideas what might cause this?
[06:48] <almark1> rumpsy: I will try that too
[06:48] <almark1> rumpsy: mounting the dvd didn't work either
[06:48] <Jordan_U> semanticpc, Please clarify
[06:48] <darolu> waaawaawee: right click your top panel and add a new one
[06:48] <WAawaawEE> i did that
[06:49] <WAawaawEE> im in "Add to panel"
[06:49] <WAawaawEE> now what?
[06:49] <WAawaawEE> i see a million different options
[06:49] <McNuggets> WAawaawEE: task manager
[06:49] <hyperstream> WAawaawEE, read......
[06:49] <darolu> waaawaawee: add the task manager
[06:49] <rumpsy> almark1: disconnect cdrom and try with dvd
[06:49] <e3a15> Swedemike i configured it but how to give password to SQL
[06:49] <WAawaawEE> theres no task manager on the list
[06:49] <WAawaawEE> :)
[06:49] <hyperstream> WAawaawEE, did you set it to auto hide or something?
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> nah i hit remove
[06:50] <Jordan_U> !panel | WAawaawEE
[06:50] <almark1> rumpsy: ok I just used synaptic and added the cdrom but that didn't work E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[06:50] <SwedeMike> e3a15: well then, that's a much better question, but I have no idea what the answer is, but now someone might help you. You probably will get better help in an asterisk-specific forum.
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> its the panel that has the list of active programs
[06:50] <rumpsy> almark1: disconnect cdrom and try with dvdrom
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> i understand how to add to an existing panel
[06:50] <darolu> WAawaawEE: Use the search box type task in, it should reduce your options
[06:50] <collabra> yeah,... he need to add the whole panel
[06:50] <Optimus55> hey any cairo-dock users know how to get drop shadows on icons?
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> exactly
[06:50] <semanticpc> how do i print ---  "5_1_5"        ..... this doesnt work  echo "$i_$j_$k" in bash ???     i, j and k are assigned values 5 1 and 5 respectively
[06:50] <almark1> rumpsy: do you mean I should umount the cdrom
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> i know how to add to an existing panel
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> i added brightness and all sorts of fun stuff
[06:50] <WAawaawEE> :P
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> but the entire bottom panel is gone...
[06:51] <darolu> WAawaawEE: right click the bottom pannel and click on "add TO panel"
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> there is no bottom panel
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> =]
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> its gone
[06:51] <hyperstream> LOL
[06:51] <DasEi> semanticpc: cut the underscores. have ""for spaces
[06:51] <Jordan_U> !resetpanel | WAawaawEE
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> THANK YOU
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> a solid answer at last
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> hah
[06:51] <WAawaawEE> <3
[06:51] <FloodBot2> WAawaawEE: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:51] <darolu> WAawaawEE: right click the top one and click on New panel
[06:51] <rumpsy> almark1: i mean don't use cdrom, disable from your computer, also remove power supply to cdrom, use dvdrom and try those
[06:52] <almark1> rumpsy: lol ok I'll be back soon
[06:52] <semanticpc> DasEi:  i need the underscore in the output
[06:52] <almark1> rumpsy: wait a sec couldn't I just use bios and disable?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> semanticpc, echo "${i}_${j}_${k}"
[06:52] <WAawaawEE> oh man i love you jordan
[06:52] <WAawaawEE> i want to kiss you
[06:52] <WAawaawEE> <3 <3 <3
[06:53] <rumpsy> almark1: better removing power supply from that
[06:53] <rumpsy> almark1: better remove power supply from that
[06:53] <almark1> rumpsy ok
[06:53] <almark1> rumpsy bbs ok
[06:53] <semanticpc> thanks Jordan_U
[06:54] <Jordan_U> semanticpc, np
[06:54] <jken146> semanticpc: declare your variables first
[06:55] <DEbiansqueeze> im installing ubuntu through wubi due to cd rom not reading my iso will a 500mhz p3 run gnome?
[06:56] <collabra> absolutely it'll run gnome
[06:57] <DEbiansqueeze> cool im giving it to my neighbor as soon as i get winblows off it will be his first pc and hes almost 80
[06:57] <collabra> right on!
[06:57] <jken146> DEbiansqueeze: How much RAM has he got?
[06:57] <DEbiansqueeze> 700 and some
[06:57] <jken146> DEbiansqueeze: Oh, BTW, you can't use wubi and remove windows
[06:57] <DEbiansqueeze> are you serious?
[06:58] <DEbiansqueeze> crap
[06:58] <Jordan_U> DEbiansqueeze, There are many other install options
[06:58] <greezmunkey> Is there a good source of info regarding compatible hardware for linux/Ubuntu systems? Like a system build guide, or something? I don't feel like "experimenting"! TIA
[06:58] <jken146> !wubi | DEbiansqueeze
[06:58] <Jordan_U> !install | DEbiansqueeze
[06:58] <e3a15> HI anyone there
[06:58] <collabra> no cdrom,... though
[06:58] <Jordan_U> !hardware | greezmunkey
[06:58] <rumpsy> e3a15: what you want?
[06:59] <Jordan_U> greezmunkey, You can also get machines with Ubuntu pre-installed from companies like system76 and Dell
[06:59] <linuxuz3r> how do you change gdm theme in ubuntu?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> linuxuz3r: in 9.10, you can't.
[06:59] <greezmunkey> Jordan_U, Thanks, I've bookmarked them both :)
[07:00] <linuxuz3r> tonyyarusso, why cant you?
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Jordan_U: there's a third one - zareason
[07:00] <almark1> rumpsy: are you still here I unplugged the cdrom and its IDE cable and then I ran apt-cdrom add but still nothing
[07:00] <rumpsy> almark1: lol
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> linuxuz3r: b/c GDM was completely rewritten, and hasn't had that functionality added to the new version yet.
[07:00] <almark1> rumpsy: uh huh :P
[07:00] <rumpsy> almark1: what command you used
[07:00] <jken146> linuxuz3r: You can go back to the old version
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> e3a15: That will all depend on the configuration of the particular ftp server you chose - reading its documentation should start you out.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> tonyyarusso, Thanks
[07:01] <almark1> rumpsy: at first I used apt-cdrom -d /media/cdrom0 which is the only one I have lol and It didn't work
[07:02] <almark1> rumpsy: and then I tried apt-cdrom add and still nothing
[07:02] <jazz> i seen on a youtube video someone switch windows and the window actually flip around, he said it was a compiz feature can some one explain how to set it up please
[07:02] <eviln_one> hi all
[07:02] <rumpsy> almark1: wait lemme check
[07:02] <linuxuz3r> will that affect xsplash?
[07:02] <jken146> !compiz | jazz
[07:02] <o_0> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m69RQpxcO6Y
[07:02] <almark1> rumpsy: right-o
[07:03] <jazz> hmm thats cool thanks
[07:03] <Flannel> [MONEY]: Please take that elsewhere, thanks.  This channel is for support only.
[07:04] <rumpsy> almark1: can you pastebin fstab
[07:04] <Lanlost> Hey, how do I make a shortcut to a PROGRAM in a folder. Every time I drag from the .. quick launch (equivalent) menu part of the Gnome bar it just makes a .desktop file. I know this will work on my Desktop but I want a shortcuts folder since my desktop is getting too crowded.
[07:04] <Lanlost> I dont just make a symbolic link do I?
[07:04] <almark1> rumpsy: all this came about because I wanted to apt-get install build-essential but alas that didn't work with apt-update not really lol
[07:04] <almark1> rumpsy: coming right up
[07:04] <eviln_one> any succesfull powerpc netboot install reference? please
[07:04]  * almark1 scratches his head first
[07:04] <jazz> also this may not be an Ubuntu thing but i watched a video the guy turn the webpage around and wrote on the back (sticky note like)
[07:05] <rumpsy> almark1: the package name is build-essentials not build-essential
[07:05] <iflema> jazz in a terminal type sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:05] <darolu> Lanlost:a symbolic link should work
[07:05] <Lanlost> sweet n/m
[07:05] <Lanlost> ln -s /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor ./Gnome-System-Monitor
[07:05] <rumpsy> almark1: try to do this change, change the device from /cdrom to /cdrom/, under fstab
[07:05] <jken146> Lanlost: a symbolic link would work, e.g.    ln -s /usr/bin/firefox /some/folder/firefox
[07:05] <Lanlost> I've been linux for almost 2 years now
[07:06] <Lanlost> I don't know wtf just happened to my mind
[07:06] <Lanlost> I've made a million (seems like it) symbolic and hard links
[07:06] <iflema> jazz the settings will show under the desktop menu System / Preferences / compizconfig settings manager
[07:06] <Lanlost> seriously just a case of my mind failing me for some reason
[07:06] <rumpsy> almark1: at last use this, mount -a
[07:06] <almark1> rumpsy: from /cdrom/ to /cdrom/? lol
[07:06] <rumpsy> almark1: yes
[07:06] <jazz> iflema,  i did, i needed help with the switcher but got a link, my 2nd question was on the video i seen about linux in general
[07:06] <Lanlost> I think it was because I saw the .desktop file that was auto created. It made me unlearn everything I had learned for a few minutes and made me think that I couldn't do a link anywhere to a program except on my desktop heh
[07:06] <almark1> rumpsy: let me get you paste first :)
[07:06] <McNuggets> jazz: I think what you are looking for is "inside cube" in compiz
[07:06] <Lanlost> which was very obviously not true
[07:07] <Lanlost> just did a locate gnome-system-monitor and then the ln -s to the path
[07:07] <Lanlost> I'm suprised how many people don't know about locate
[07:07] <rumpsy> almark1: That's the only thing i want to do, :)
[07:07] <Lanlost> although its not always useful due to the database
[07:07] <royceremer> McNuggets, jazz: or this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxfSwzhSn1c :D
[07:07] <rumpsy> almark1: Try on yourself
[07:07] <McNuggets> royceremer: or that yes
[07:07] <almark1> rumpsy: will have to reboot again
[07:07] <rumpsy> no,
[07:08] <rumpsy> almark1: try this commad, mount -a
[07:08] <rumpsy> almark1: after that, apt-cdrom add -a , or apt-cdrom add
[07:08] <almark1> rumpsy: ok ok lol
[07:08]  * almark1 rubs hands together
[07:08] <rumpsy> almark1: lunch break now, bye
[07:08] <rumpsy> brb
[07:08] <McNuggets> royceremer: man that's what I just told him
[07:08] <woodyjlw> is there a channel for wine?
[07:09] <jken146> woodyjlw: yes. guess what it's called
[07:09] <jazz> royceremer,  almost, imagine taking the window your looking at now and grabing the title bar and turning it over like a sheet of paper
[07:09] <DasEi> woodyjlw: #winehq
[07:09] <woodyjlw> lol...thanks
[07:09] <jazz> and write on the back like a sticky note or post it
[07:09] <DasEi> !wine > woodyjlw
[07:09] <woodyjlw> tried #wine but no luck. did not know hq
[07:10] <Happehwalrus> Hello. I'm looking into creating a VirtualBox for Windows XP on ubuntu 9.10, anyone know where to get a windows iso that's a direct download (not torrent?)
[07:10] <DasEi> woodyjlw: see pm for additional info
[07:10] <royceremer> McNuggets, jazz: yeah, that's pretty sweet, the folding effect is in that video, obviously it doesn't help you set it up, but it's a nice example
[07:10] <McNuggets> royceremer: yes
[07:10] <DasEi> !ot | Happehwalrus
[07:11] <jazz> royceremer,  i have the fold, it was a linuxcon video so it maynot be an ubuntu thing but its only place i seen it
[07:12] <royceremer> jazz: so you just need the cube? that's definatelly included in the base compiz package: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz#Included_plugins
[07:13] <iflema> jazz it may have been a combination of plugins..... just get in there and sussem out..
[07:14] <iflema> jazz theres ways to doodle text.. write in fire all sorts of stuff
[07:15] <jazz> iflema,  yeah but most of them arent productive as more of a wow effect. i got ccsm customized,
[07:16] <iflema> jazz yes and no.....
[07:16] <jazz> just wanted to know about the webpage bit like paper was cool im looking for it now on youtube.
[07:16] <iflema> jazz ok ill leave ya alone
[07:17] <jazz> iflema,  its cool, if no one knows what im talking about id like to share then
[07:18] <jazz> royce guy might be right in a combo of plugins  id have to suss out. brb
[07:18] <ultraparadigm> Are there any C++ development suits for linux that are comparable to something like borland c++?
[07:19] <ultraparadigm> I've decided to learn C++ and I would like an easy to use environment if possible
[07:19] <gerry__> !eclipse
[07:20] <woodyjlw> anyone know how to configure wine before installing world of warcraft?
[07:20] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: eclipse
[07:20] <jken146> woodyjlw: Look it up in the appdb
[07:20] <ultraparadigm> Woodyjlw, wow is on the platinum list at wine hq.  which means you probably don't have to do anything
[07:21] <ultraparadigm> Thanks gerry__!
[07:21] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: nps, you'll want the CDT package of Eclipse
[07:22] <seamarshall> hello?
[07:22] <ultraparadigm> ohh wow, I can't use eclips for Java and c++ awesome.  I was pretty good a java back in the old days!
[07:23] <seamarshall> hey i need some help setting up a firewall with a bridged connection
[07:23] <seamarshall> anyone there?
[07:24] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: there is also netbeans http://netbeans.org/
[07:24] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: and quite a few others
[07:26] <ultraparadigm> Gerry__, Which one do you think is the best for beginers?
[07:26] <seamarshall> anyone there?
[07:26] <nightrid3r> no
[07:26] <seamarshall> dangit
[07:27] <seamarshall> i need help creating a setup similar to cain/zonealarm
[07:27] <ultraparadigm> lol, Seamarshall, it's usually better if you ask a specific quesiton about setting up a firewall.  That's alot easier.
[07:27] <gerry__> seamarshall: I'm not here either
[07:28] <ultraparadigm> The prospect of walking someone through an entire configuration isn't to apealling, :-/
[07:28] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: ummmm dunno
[07:28] <ultraparadigm> gerry__ k thanks
[07:28] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: they are all pretty easy I think
[07:28] <ultraparadigm> netbeans looks very shinny and pretty though :-D
[07:28] <gerry__> ultraparadigm: I was going to mention that :)
[07:28] <seamarshall> i am already posioning with ettercap and capturing all that good stuff i just need a way to lag them out
[07:29] <Lanlost> how come when I do sudo ln -s /media/56FCFCE6FCFCC0F3/dos ./C\:\\/ and then cd C\:\\/, inside there is a directory called dos
[07:29] <Lanlost> I want the /media/56..../dos to be the directory INSIDE c:\
[07:29] <Lanlost> ls /media/56FCFCE6FCFCC0F3/dos/ = ... 09.jpg
[07:30] <Lanlost> ln -s /media/56..../dos ./C\:\\; and then ls ./C\:\\ gives me "dos"
[07:31] <gerry__> !flood > Lanlost
[07:31] <seamarshall> is there a way to "block" certain ips?
[07:31] <Lanlost> sorry
[07:31] <seamarshall> i have tried iptables but honestly i am a novice in ubuntu :/
[07:31] <Lanlost> thats not quite a flood though
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Lanlost, If you want "C:\\/" to by a symlink then there can't be a directory of the same name already there
[07:31] <Lanlost> I dont mean sorry, that's not quite a flood. I really mean it when I say sorry.
[07:31] <darolu> seamrshall: you can edit your /etc/hosts file
[07:32] <Lanlost> Jordan, there's not.. the symlink completes fine
[07:32] <Lanlost> I'm trying to symlink to the inside of the dos directory so that ls /media/C\:\\ gives me the same result as ls /media/56..../dos
[07:32] <DasEi> seamarshall: http://tiny.cc/b9VYi
[07:33] <Happehwalrus> I think I'm going to alpha test 10.04, anything to say before I install?
[07:33] <seamarshall> that url deals with iptables correct?
[07:33] <fluvvell> how does one use the --display=DISPLAY setting with something like eog
[07:33] <gerry__> Happehwalrus: have fun
[07:33] <fluvvell> as in on a second monitor
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Lanlost, What is the output of "ls -ld /media/C\:\\" ( it should not be more than one line, if it is *don't* paste it into the channel )
[07:33] <wtfwtfdef> help
[07:34] <wtfwtfdef> anyone know why firefox wont allow me to connect anymore
[07:34] <wtfwtfdef> it works for a bit then stops
[07:34] <nervousTwitch> did you run firefox through terminal?
[07:34] <nomnex> openoffice channel is not very responsive. Do I need Java JRE if I want to use Base? Is there an open JRE and would you recommend it vs. the Java JRE (karmic here). Thanks
[07:34] <seamarshall> DasEi: I have already tried adding the ips to be dropped by iptables but it didnt lag them at all
[07:35] <Lanlost> yeah sorry, it worked with ln -s /media/56..../dos/. with the period
[07:35] <lorenzosu> wtfwtfdef, That is a little vague
[07:35] <Lanlost> and then you're right, it wouldn't work with an already existing dir. If I did it the other way the dir HAD to be there first
[07:35] <nervousTwitch> wtfwtfdef have you launched firefox through xterm????
[07:35] <DasEi> seamarshall: ufw lets you do that
[07:35] <nervousTwitch> bet that would give you some kind of hint
[07:36] <seamarshall> ok il will give that a shot. Thank you DasEi
[07:36] <rww> nomnex: no, yes, and they both suck, respectively.
[07:36] <indus> nomnex, not needed except for some menu
[07:36] <indus> nomnex, wizards etc wont work
[07:36] <indus> nomnex,try both and see
[07:37] <indus> nomnex, open office is a heavy package really, try the individual word processors abiword and gnumeric for spread sheets
[07:37] <indus> !info gnumeric
[07:37] <lang882000> I have a modem when I run the command lsusb in the terminal modem detected at 12d1: 1010. This modem can be used on ubuntu if it had been in on it through win #, is there a solution for this modem can be directly used in ubuntu without having to go to win #
[07:37] <nomnex> indus, rww, if I don't need it for Base, what is the point? I don't really care about wizards, I leave that to MS Office
[07:38] <DasEi> lang882000: sudo pppoeconf finds it ?
[07:38] <indus> nomnex, btw, i forgot what base is, like access?
[07:38] <wtfwtfdef> nervoustwitch i didnt run it thru term, clicked on igone in gnome
[07:38] <nomnex> indus, yes, but I will use it as a front end with postgresql
[07:38] <fluvvell> anybody with eog experience
[07:39] <nervousTwitch> run it and try to crash it again
[07:39] <nomnex> rww, indus, thanks
[07:39] <wtfwtfdef> nervoustwitch it doesnt crash
[07:39] <indus> nomnex, ok
[07:39] <wtfwtfdef> it stops connecting
[07:39] <lang882000> thanks DasEi but this command write in terminal?
[07:39] <wtfwtfdef> i think it actually disconnects me from tmy internet or something
[07:39] <DasEi> lang882000: yes
[07:39] <wtfwtfdef> i think it makes my firewall block me or something
[07:39] <nervousTwitch> do you have another browser?
[07:40] <DasEi> lang882000: it searches for directly connected modems. see:
[07:40] <wtfwtfdef> yes, but when this happens, it looks like the internet is out
[07:40] <DasEi> !info pppoeconf
[07:40] <wtfwtfdef> even local network
[07:40] <wtfwtfdef> when i know it works
[07:40] <wtfwtfdef> im running it on a 1.7ghz amd XP gigabyte board
[07:40] <wtfwtfdef> 7vrXp
[07:40] <wtfwtfdef> with geforce 6600
[07:41] <wtfwtfdef> fedora seems to work fine
[07:41] <indus> what is the equivalent of the windows internet option ' i connect to internet with username and password'
[07:41] <nervousTwitch> are you using network-manager?
[07:41] <wtfwtfdef> its using stop ubuntu my ubuntu box
[07:41] <wtfwtfdef> oh i duno if its important, it will crash if you install windows
[07:41] <wtfwtfdef> somethings is wrong witht his board physically
[07:42] <wtfwtfdef> stop=stock
[07:42] <wtfwtfdef> windows sdoes not install on this mobo at all
[07:42] <nervousTwitch> good
[07:42] <wtfwtfdef> i was trying all o/s and found that ubuntu worked, and mandrake goes fine , im on fedora now
[07:43] <wtfwtfdef> ubuntu though will crash the network mon i think
[07:43] <wtfwtfdef> is there any logs i can look for ?
[07:43] <DreaDy_HK> i have a problem whit imspector
[07:43] <nervousTwitch> i would make sure my /ect/network/interfaces looks fine
[07:43] <DreaDy_HK> i run imspector but nosee any wwindows of program
[07:43] <seamarshall> when i use ufw and add an ip to be denied it does not drop the connection
[07:44] <wtfwtfdef> imspector will put out logs
[07:44] <nervousTwitch> and that network -manager was configure correctly
[07:44] <DreaDy_HK> how ?
[07:44] <wtfwtfdef> when the people talk
[07:44] <fluvvell> can anyone explain the --display=DISPLAY switch in progs like eog ?
[07:44] <wtfwtfdef> it stamps the date&time
[07:44] <DreaDy_HK> how see the log of impector ?
[07:44] <DreaDy_HK> i dont see the windows of this program
[07:45] <DreaDy_HK> i run the imspector of the terminal
[07:45] <DreaDy_HK> but dont see any windows of this program
[07:45] <DreaDy_HK> i dont understand :S
[07:46] <wtfwtfdef> i dont know which dir exactly, but ive seen the logs b4
[07:46] <seamarshall> How do i drop traffic using a firewall when i am arp posioning?
[07:46] <wtfwtfdef> depends really where you chose to install
[07:46] <DreaDy_HK> mmm
[07:46] <DreaDy_HK> the log save in the folder
[07:47] <DreaDy_HK> only see in the file of this folder ?
[07:47] <DasEi> seamarshall: unclear question
[07:47] <wtfwtfdef> seamarshall you run a program to do that
[07:47] <indus> what is the equivalent of the windows internet option ' i connect to internet with username and password'
[07:47] <DasEi> seamarshall: you want to protect against arp-attacks ?
[07:47] <indus> in ubuntu i emean
[07:47] <indus> is it pppoeconf
[07:48] <seamarshall> in windows i just added their ip to a block list in zonealarm and i lagged them out
[07:48] <MindVirus> Hello. Is there any way to functionally create lists following this pattern? [0, 0, 0], [1, 0, 0], [0, 1, 0], [0, 0, 1], [1, 1, 0], [1, 0, 1], [0, 1, 1], [1, 1, 1], [2, 1, 1], [1, 2, 1], etc.
[07:48] <indus> MindVirus, ask in #python
[07:48] <MindVirus> Oh goodness.
[07:48] <MindVirus> I thought I was in Python
[07:48] <MindVirus> ..
[07:48] <seamarshall> wtfwtfdef: what program do i run for that?
[07:48] <indus> MindVirus, probably a for loop
[07:48] <MindVirus> indus: *I thought I was in #python.
[07:49] <MindVirus> indus: Haha, thank you.
[07:49] <DasEi> MindVirus: a for loop in a while frame will do
[07:49] <indus> MindVirus, which goes increments of 1 for each list
[07:49] <indus> ah no sorry
[07:50] <seamarshall> Dasei: I am not trying to protect against the attacks. I am trying to diconnect a specific ip temporarily
[07:50] <DreaDy_HK> seamarshall i need other software for run imspector ?
[07:51] <MindVirus> DasEi: What do you mean?
[07:51] <seamarshall> DreaDy_HK: I am sorry, I don't know much about linux right now. I dont know what inspector is
[07:51] <DasEi> seamarshall: for  ubuntu I assume ? ufw as linkde above
[07:51] <DreaDy_HK> other software for see the log of imspector ?
[07:52] <seamarshall> DasEi: I did use ufw. i did sudo ufw deny from xx.xx.xx.xx but it didnt do anything to the person with that ip
[07:52] <DasEi> MindVirus: I got you for a shellscript, but I'm not deep into that anyway ( your pattern-generator)
[07:52] <Sausage> whats up?
[07:53] <jken146> seamarshall: put the IP address or hostname in /etc/hosts.deny
[07:53] <Sausage> got a v5000 here trying to get the new ubuntu rockin
[07:53] <DasEi> seamarshall: sudo ufw enable ?
[07:53] <Sausage> not a noob but i'm stuck at a screen
[07:53] <Sausage> live = caps blink and 2 ubuntu logos
[07:54] <turneralex> Hey!
[07:54] <seamarshall> jken146: Will that block them with my router-device bridge or just my computer?
[07:54] <haryv> been a long day. Started off the day watching with about 500 other people next to my place the Olympic Torch Bearer run the Torch past me along with five other major Olympic sponsors :) soon as I get ubuntu install and cinrella installed edit it and upload to youtube ;)
[07:54] <jken146> seamarshall: just your computer
[07:54] <seamarshall> DasEi: yes I enabled it before I added the block
[07:54] <jazz> iflema,  no luck on tha video guess  its ok. was a cool idea though.
[07:54] <iflema> seamarshall the command should be iptables -I INPUT -s <ip address> -j DROP use H instead of I to allow again
[07:55] <haryv> BTW why is Ubuntu so slow to download?
[07:55] <seamarshall> jken146: I am trying to block them on the bridged connection. the one i am posioning
[07:55] <Sausage> then when  i try a normal install... sometimes it gives me a giant list or [ error ] kernel and such then now i just tried and i get 1 ubuntu symbol
[07:55] <turneralex> I cant get apache2 started with ssl in ubuntu. I'm getting an "address in use" error when i have "listen 443" in ports.conf though the server starts fine on port 80.. :/
[07:55] <DasEi> haryv: use a torrent ? what's slow ?
[07:55] <Sausage> then a blinking caps lock
[07:55] <jken146> seamarshall: oh, I see. Then you do want to do something fancy with iptables
[07:55] <haryv> Das, just some of the sites
[07:56] <Sausage> i just downloaded ubuntu in 12 min
[07:56] <Sausage> cd ver that is
[07:56] <burkey> Is there a command to see who is logged onto windows terminal  server in the ubuntu terminal
[07:56] <seamarshall> ifelma: I also tried that command but I am not trying to block connections to my computer. I have a peripheral connected to my router and i want to filter that traffic
[07:56] <haryv> I imagine some of you are in Europe its midnight here west coast time.
[07:56] <DasEi> haryv: depends on their servers/locations, pinc n traceroute them, ten you'll know
[07:56] <haryv> yea could
[07:57] <DasEi> ping*
[07:57] <haryv> Dasda been to a olympics event?
[07:57] <seamarshall> jken146: So there is a way to use iptables to filter the traffic from my router to the peripheral?
[07:58] <jken146> seamarshall: Is this the router you're working on?
[07:58] <DasEi> haryv: (DasEi) nope, europe 9.00 AM here
[07:58] <iflema> seamarshall i meant D not I... sorry
[07:58] <seamarshall> jken146: I dont understand?
[07:59] <haryv> DasEi I see. The 2010 winter olympics here in vancouver are three days away. Tourch bearer's plurl, have traveled 44,000 kms!
[07:59]  * iflema H whatever :)... 
[07:59] <DasEi> haryv: read some news, #ubuntu-offtopic for generic chatter
[08:00] <seamarshall> maybe this will help. For example I captured ip 24.33.69.89 connecting to 65.55.42.180. I want to break that connection
[08:01] <DasEi> seamarshall: behind the scope of this channel, spoofing is what you are after
[08:02] <seamarshall> DasEi: I am brand new at this so I am not sure if you call it spoofing. A lot of people call it ip lagging
[08:02] <q0k> Hi. I heard that in 10.4, Google will be the default search engine instead of Yahoo... https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2010-February/thread.html#end What do you think about it?
[08:02] <q0k> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/sounder/2010-February/013860.html
[08:02]  * iflema its one click who cares.....
[08:03] <q0k> :(   I mean Yahoo instead of Google
[08:03] <q0k> What do you think of it?
[08:03] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | q0k
[08:03] <seamarshall> jken146: Are you familiar with the relationship of cain and able/zonealarm?
[08:03] <bazhang> q0k, please take this to the chat channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:03]  * rumpsy back to war
[08:03] <q0k> okay
[08:03] <DasEi> seamarshall: there are few ways to fubar a connection, but behind the scope of this channel
[08:04] <seamarshall> DasEi: I dont understand what you mean how to fubar a connection or what you mean by behind the scope of this channel.
[08:04] <DasEi> !support
[08:05] <seamarshall> oh i am in the wrong room?
[08:05] <jazz> McNuggets,  are you still here?
[08:06] <jazz> iflema,  are you here?
[08:06] <DasEi> seamarshall: this channel is for ubuntu-specific help, there are other chans, more widely like #linux and further ressources can be discovered on web
[08:06] <iflema> jazz about to go out... whats up??
[08:06] <sysdoc> The buntu is sucking buttermilk!
[08:06] <jazz> iflema,  what i was talking about is at 2:59 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXv8VlpoK_g&feature=related
[08:06] <Speedy2> Hey all.  If you compile your own kernel, if you re-install the nvidia drivers with apt, does it still generate the right files?
[08:07] <iflema> jazz oooo
[08:07] <jazz> iflema,  i guess the project got canned
[08:07] <seamarshall> DasEi: I am using ubuntu
[08:07] <McNuggets> jazz: what project?
[08:07] <jazz> he turns the page over and writes looking glass, is the project
[08:07] <DasEi> Speedy2: y
[08:07] <jazz> McNuggets,  looking glass
[08:08] <Speedy2> DasEi: If you recompile the kernel yourself, will apt detet that an re-generate the nvidia stuff?
[08:08] <DasEi> Speedy2: but if you do your own, needed modules have to be there
[08:08] <iflema> jazz oooh..... pez
[08:08] <McNuggets> jazz: i'm, using it right now in compiz. it's in your settings manager
[08:08] <DasEi> Speedy2: yes, will
[08:08] <jazz> McNuggets,  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXv8VlpoK_g&feature=related
[08:08] <Speedy2> DasEi: The problem is I'm getting some kernel oops and my keyboard / mouse input is "choppy"
[08:09] <DasEi> Speedy2: how did you do it ?
[08:09] <DasEi> Speedy2:(the compilation)
[08:09] <turneralex> I cant get apache2 started with ssl in ubuntu. I'm getting an "address in use" error when i have "listen 443" in ports.conf though the server starts fine on port 80..
[08:09] <turneralex> any ideas?
[08:09] <jazz> McNuggets,  really? what i was looking for was the part around 2:59
[08:09] <Speedy2> DasEi: I didn't recompile the kernel yet, I'm using the Kubuntu one, but this is why I want to re-compile.
[08:09] <DasEi> Speedy2:  (the ..
[08:09] <McNuggets> jazz: thats a old plugin from Beryl that was now integrated with compiz
[08:10] <DasEi> Speedy2: any particular reason ?
[08:10] <jazz> McNuggets,  how do i set it up? or what plugins?
[08:11] <Speedy2> DasEi: I probably haven't been very clear.  I am using a Kubuntu stock kernel, but I am getting oopses .  I think it's because the kernel wants to use the older "pata_xxx" drives (ITE & Marvell in my case).  But I have no recourse since they are not loaded as modules.
[08:11] <jazz> McNuggets,  that was one of the first videos i seen before i switch to linux
[08:11] <Speedy2> DasEi: The kernel should be setup to use the newer "sata_xxx" modules for the same devices.
[08:12] <DasEi> Speedy2: ic, I haven't followed latest kernel news, else just got to make sure the desired are on your sys, blacklist the wrong ones and load them at bootup
[08:12] <McNuggets> jazz: :) I would suggest you go with the simple compiz settings manager like I did at first till you find your way around. other than that there is some reading to do and messing around
[08:13] <Speedy2> DasEi: It's not loading a module for these devices, but they are in fact compiled into the kernel.
[08:13] <DasEi> Speedy2: what does syslog say about the drives ?
[08:14] <jazz> McNuggets,  i do use compiz but not all like the show off videos on youtube.  it was fun 3 months ago though when i got ubuntu
[08:15] <DasEi> Speedy2: no, but have some experience, please stay here, so I can follow other posts
[08:15] <Speedy2> DasEi: I've been using Linux a long time, and have compiled dozens of kernels.  Normally I do it anyway since I know my hardware best.
[08:16] <jameschu> Speedy2, u are a high hand
[08:17] <jameschu> how to compile kernel?
[08:17] <woodyjlw> is there going to be a new ATI driver for ubuntu that is wrote by a linux user?    not from ati
[08:17] <DasEi> Speedy2: so you know the answer then
[08:17] <DasEi> !kernel | jameschu
[08:18] <Speedy2> jameschu: I've only done it once on Ubuntu, following the guides DasEi just linked you to
[08:18] <Speedy2> DasEi: I have done it before, but I never had any proprietary drivers to worry about.
[08:19] <Speedy2> DasEi: Plus, Kubuntu by default starts up KDM, and doesn't log you into a console.  I noticed if my X isn't starting up, I don't get virtual logins, so I'm just worried if something gets screwed up, I'm "locked out"
[08:19] <DasEi> Speedy2: you will need support for your pcie-bus, rest apt should resolve, x is another question
[08:20] <al_> yo
[08:20] <al_> sup all
[08:20] <Jordan_U> Speedy2, You can always choose an old kernel or recovery mode from the grub menu
[08:20] <al_> why does 'ls -d' not list dirs? it doesnt list anyting for me?
[08:20] <Speedy2> Jordan_U: Yeah, recover mode still isn't giving me a console login  (oddly)
[08:21] <DasEi> Speedy2: it does, root or netroot
[08:21] <knuth> #bookz
[08:21] <Speedy2> DasEi: It might be because I changed some of the start-up services, dunno.
[08:21] <darolu> al_:$man ls
[08:22] <DasEi> Speedy2: also ctrl-alt F1 to F6 drops you to login prompt
[08:22] <al_> darolu: I did, and my interpretation of the -d flag is to list dirs???
[08:22] <seamarshall> Does anyone know how to use iptables with a ettercap bridged connection (not my computer)
[08:22] <Speedy2> DasEi: Yeah, what I'm saying is that doesn't work right now.  I don't see any getty running in the process list either.
[08:23] <al_> I want to list all dirs on a disk, by reverse date order, and I cant even get to the first bllody step, list dirs....grrrr
[08:23] <DasEi> al_: ls -R for the whole
[08:24] <al_> DasEi: yeah I got that much. but need dirs only, with newest at bottom of list
[08:24] <DasEi> Speedy2: what happens if you boot ?
[08:24] <Speedy2> DasEi: Boots normally, dumps me into KDE (Kubuntu).  If I choose recovery mode, it just hangs after starting up one of the services.  control-alt-delete reboots it.  (this is stock kernel, I haven't changed anything there).
[08:26] <DasEi> Speedy2: strange, then init 1  or the rec-kernel is broken, you can hit ctrl-alt F1 from kubu to get out x
[08:26] <DasEi> al_: man ls, option t sorts by date
[08:27] <al_> DasEi: ok. But I still cant list dirs with ls -d? what am i missing? does the -d option do something differnet?
[08:27] <jacob__> hi
[08:27] <jacob__> What do I have to edit to change the top left hand corner of my Windows
[08:27] <jacob__> I changed my theme up a bit
[08:27] <graangee> ok i am running a live ubuntu cd 9,04 x64 i need to look at my windows drive doing that and find my passwords for windows or is it possible to do that anyone?ok i am running a live ubuntu cd 9,04 x64 i need to look at my windows drive doing that and find my passwords for windows or is it possible to do that anyone?ok i am running a live ubuntu cd 9,04 x64 i need to look at my windows drive doing that and find my passwords for win
[08:27] <jacob__> And now instead of the little drop down menu, I see the icon of the program
[08:28] <jacob__> I don't want the icon, just the little menu.. like the dot, or tiny arrow
[08:29] <DasEi> al_: yes, to list dirs got to modify output of ls -R
[08:30] <al_> what does -d do?
[08:30] <ce_muaniest> co_gokil
[08:31] <KE1HA> al_: just type man ls .. will give you all the options.
[08:31] <jacob__> anybody?
[08:32] <Speedy2> DasEi: Well, running run-level 1 resulted in some strange stuff.  Is there an easy way to restore my start-up scripts to default?
[08:33] <darolu> al_:You're right -d does nothing but print "."
[08:33] <jacob__> come on guys
[08:33] <Nighthawk82> hey guys I just got a canon mp640 printer (New model) how do i go about getting the drivers for it to install it as a network printer when canon haven't got linux drivers?
[08:33] <jacob__> Ubuntu says I can receive 24/7 support here
[08:33] <jacob__> I'm not receiving any!
[08:34] <bazhang> jacob__, please repost your question and be patient, these are volunteers
[08:34] <DasEi> Speedy2: what happens if you enter: sudo init 1 (trml in kde) ? if that gives no simple splash, might rebuild recovery-kernel
[08:34] <jacob__> I know bazhang
[08:34] <jacob__> But I'm quite impatient
[08:34] <jacob__> It's late, and I'd prefer to get his out of the way, before I forget
[08:34] <Chiznight> Whats the question
[08:34] <Speedy2> DasEi: Well, it dumped X and gave me a text-mode login, spawning getty.  But getty doesn't seem to run on start-up by default
[08:34] <jacob__> I changed my theme up a bit
[08:34] <jacob__> And now instead of the little drop down menu, I see the icon of the program
[08:34] <jacob__> I want the icon gone
[08:34] <Speedy2> DasEi: After I did a startx from the run 1 getty session, I got a locked up desktop
[08:34] <jacob__> and instead of the icon, the little menu thng i had
[08:35] <jacob__> like in the Human theme
[08:35] <jacob__> the little circle
[08:35] <DasEi> Speedy2: karmic ?
[08:35] <Speedy2> DasEi: Yes, Karmic
[08:35] <christopheb> Hi, when I do make on the intel phc packages, it picks the 2.6.31.6 kernel while I need the 2.6.31-17-generic-phc, anyone knows what could've gone wrong?
[08:35] <DasEi> Speedy2:sudo gdm restart
[08:35] <Speedy2> DasEi: I don't mean to re-launch kdm, I mean how to re-install the UPstart start-up scripts
[08:35] <DasEi> Speedy2:or alt-ctrl-F7
[08:35] <bazhang> christopheb, pae?
[08:35] <BezNalogov> Hello people. I have Ubuntu 9.10 and recently installed as second ethernet card a sitecom LN-027. However, Ubuntu doesn't reconize this card. Also I don't see it appear on lspci. Can somebody help me to find out how to install this card on ubuntu. When I google I only find websites of companies selling this card. I do know that a Linux 'driver' exists according to the specs of sitecom, but I also can't find where to download this.
[08:36] <christopheb> bazhang, what do you mean with pae?
[08:36] <DasEi> Speedy2: why that ??
[08:36] <bazhang> christopheb, sorry misread; you are compiling your own kernel then
[08:36] <christopheb> I installed the phc from ppa repo's
[08:36] <Speedy2> DasEi: Well, like I said, I changed some of the start-up scripts to remove unnessary things (i.e. "modem-manager").  It's possible something got fubared, so I wanted to find out the easiest way to return all the start-up scripts to default
[08:37] <Speedy2> DasEi: Would that be just copying them over from the LiveCD?
[08:37] <jacob__> please #ubuntu
[08:37] <jacob__> It's late
[08:37] <jacob__> When It's late, things here always seem to turn for worst
[08:37] <darolu> jacob_:you can edit the theme you are using or choose another window theme, click the customize button at the themes window
[08:37] <jacob__> I did
[08:37] <jacob__> What PART of the Customizing theme.. I looked, I don't see it
[08:37] <jacob__> If that isn't it what PART of my theme file..
[08:37] <jacob__> I don't know these things man
[08:38] <collabra> jacob__ : calm down
[08:38] <DasEi> Speedy2: hard question, as I don't know what you have changed, live is different from persistent
[08:38] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[08:38] <darolu> jacob_:you can contact the theme maker for further help
[08:38] <Chiznight> Jacob_: System-->Appearance, change the theme back to Human
[08:38] <jacob__> but i don't want human
[08:39] <Speedy2> DasEi: If there is a weakpoint of Ubuntu right now, it's Upstart.
[08:39] <darolu> Jacob_:it's hard for us to help if you don't even give the name of the theme...
[08:39] <jacob__> well
[08:39] <jacob__> I'm using the Mist control
[08:39] <jacob__> Human icon set
[08:39] <Chiznight> Jacob_: What exactly are you looking for? Just the menu bar?
[08:39] <jacob__> and ClearlooksClassic window border
[08:39] <bullgard> HOw can I find a straing having blanks in a manpage?
[08:39] <jacob__> And I want to edit the menu bar yes, which I believe would be Mist
[08:39] <bullgard> HOw can I find a string having blanks in a manpage?
[08:39] <jacob__> or no
[08:40] <jacob__> clearlooks classic would control that
[08:40] <DasEi> speedy: unless you give more information either on your changes or your issues, upstart is event-based so less config-"attackable"
[08:40] <fez> i can't wait till 10.04
[08:40] <collabra> jacob__ : everything you've mentioned are themes
[08:40] <jacob__> different parts of themes
[08:41] <collabra> right,... but, what can we help you with jacob__
[08:41] <Speedy2> DasEi: Well, the Kubuntu I used shipped with a bunch of unwanted and uneeded services, but it's hard to weed them out and remove them based on the design of Upstart.
[08:41] <collabra> jacob__ : what you originally mentioned was an icon
[08:41] <DasEi> !bum | Speedy2
[08:41] <Speedy2> DasEi: Yeah, I used bum
[08:41] <Speedy2> ..
[08:41] <DasEi> use it again ?
[08:42] <DrManhattan> /etc/init.d/gdm start isnt working properly, even though I was able to use its inverse to stop gdm. WTF
[08:42] <DasEi> DrManhattan: sudo gdm restart
[08:42] <darolu> jacob_: http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity select one that fits your needs, or download clearlooks and edit it to your likings
[08:43] <darolu> jacob_:here you'll find what you need: http://developer.gnome.org/doc/tutorials/metacity/metacity-themes.html
[08:43] <collabra> !panel
[08:43] <Speedy1> www.search2.net
[08:44] <collabra> where can i find the '!' help?,... anyone know?
[08:44] <darolu> collabra: is this what you mean: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=popularity%20DESC&page=1
[08:44] <DasEi> !brain | collabra
[08:45] <bazhang> collabra, you mean bot factoids?
[08:45] <Speedy2> DasEi: BTW, I don't think bum officially supports upstart
[08:45] <collabra> thanks ubottu
[08:45] <collabra> thanks DasEi
[08:46] <DasEi> Speedy2: alright, I'm tired now and will log off
[08:47] <Speedy2> DasEi: Hey, sorry, that wasn't meant as a dig.  I appreciate your help.
[08:47] <DasEi> np, see ya
[08:49] <Promethes> hi, i have problem with remote desktop, when i try to connect to remote macine there is no way to use mouse or keyboard? Is there a way to enable this?
[08:52] <BezNalogov> Hello people. I have Ubuntu 9.10 and recently installed as second ethernet card a sitecom LN-027. However, Ubuntu doesn't reconize this card. Also I don't see it appear on lspci. Can somebody help me to find out how to install this card on ubuntu. When I google I only find websites of companies selling this card. I do know that a Linux 'driver' exists according to the specs of sitecom, but I also can't find where to download this.
[08:53] <almoxarife> Promethes: the other machine is controlling what you can and can not do
[08:54] <Promethes> almoxarife: when i connect to remote desktop i want to control it using mouse and keyboard but i can't, so i search for a solution
[08:56] <almoxarife> Promethes: the machine you are connecting to decides what you can do on it, the settings needed to change are on the other side, I assume you want 'full access' on it
[08:56] <elnur> !ubuntu
[08:57] <elnur> !iirc
[08:57] <elnur> !ta
[08:57]  * iflema :)
[08:58] <Gryphon4> Hi
[08:59] <Gryphon4> Any one the best site to get fantastic backgrounds for ubuntu?
[09:00] <darolu> Gryphon4:try http://www.gnome-look.org
[09:00] <christopheb> Ok, I tried to change the symlinks for my kernel headers, seems like they were wrong. But now make just sits there doing nothing..what now?
[09:00] <Gryphon4> Thanks
[09:03] <Promethes> almoxarife: yep, ive configured full access on the other side, still i cannot control remote machine using mouse or keyboard :(
[09:04] <Gryphon4> darolu: whould you happen to know how to download ubuntu restricted extras with out installing it?
[09:05] <coz_> hey guys..let me ask this again.... the system clock...systray etc  do not stay in the same position I put them in after reboot or  restart...with or without   "Lock to Panel"  enalbed....any way to prevent them from moving??
[09:05] <almoxarife> Promethes: could the issue be related to firewalling?
[09:05] <darolu> Gryphon4:use sudo apt-get -d to download only
[09:06] <Gryphon4> thanks
[09:06] <Demian> hi, anyone have problems with firefox and flash audio? i mean, i can visualize well the videos, but suddenly the audio stops working
[09:06] <darolu> Gryphon4:you can read the manual with: $ man apt-get, or you can go to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:07] <christopheb> Guys, make isn't working anymore, what can cause this?
[09:07] <Gryphon4> thanks darolu: will cheak it out.
[09:07] <rumpsy> christopheb: what was the error?
[09:07] <christopheb> nothing, it just keeps waiting, I enter the command and nothing happens
[09:08] <christopheb> I was re-symlinking my linux-sources
[09:08] <rumpsy> christopheb: after ./configure, use this, make && make install
[09:08] <christopheb> I know
[09:08] <christopheb> but it ju
[09:08] <christopheb> just doesn't work anymore
[09:08] <rumpsy> christopheb: make install?
[09:09] <christopheb> everything with make doesn't do anything anymore
[09:09] <Gryphon4>  darolu: its telling me this???? sudo: apt-get-d: command not found
[09:09] <rumpsy> christopheb: what are building?
[09:09] <rumpsy> christopheb: what are you building?
[09:09] <christopheb> phc
[09:09] <Gryphon4> What do i do?
[09:09] <christopheb> it worked before
[09:09] <collabra> christopheb: have you tried purging and reinstalling : make?
[09:10] <darolu> Gryphon4: you have to specify a package name
[09:10] <christopheb> but gave me an error, "make[1]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'. Stop."
[09:10] <Gryphon4> I did
[09:10] <christopheb> that's why I re symlinked it
[09:10] <christopheb> why do I have to purge an reinstall make after I resymlink the "build" folder in my modules..
[09:11] <KE1HA> Try this guide for building ur kernel: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html
[09:12] <SmokeyD> Hey everyone, I have ubuntu karmic installed on my external usb harddrive
[09:12] <SmokeyD> is it somehow possible to make grub2 not look at the fixed disks in the machine when it detects os-es?
[09:13] <collabra> christopheb: it sounds like there may have been some kind of corruption to your system in the last make you did
[09:13] <SmokeyD> now, everytime I do a kernel upgrade, grub2 not only detects ubuntu on my external harddrive, but also all the os-es on the fixed disk
[09:13] <christopheb> allright, so what does purging mean?
[09:13] <SmokeyD> and I don't want these in my boot menu
[09:14] <collabra> christopheb: it just purges the current make and it's modules related to it
[09:14] <christopheb> ok, and what do I have to do for it in order to "purge"?
[09:14] <collabra> christopheb: then, it just a matter of reinstalling make
[09:14] <collabra> apt-get purge make
[09:15] <christopheb> oh ok, too easy :)
[09:15] <collabra> then,... apt-get install make
[09:15] <bullgard> The article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable descrbes envoronment variables for any operating system. Is there an article that describes environment variables for Linux?
[09:16] <jken146>  /msg ubottu !w
[09:16] <christopheb> Hmm, "make" itself works
[09:16] <don-i> when i do sudo apt-get upgrade, i get a message that says the following have been kept back. why ?
[09:16] <christopheb> but when using it in the phc-intel folder, it just keeps waiting
[09:16] <collabra> christopheb: ???
[09:17] <christopheb> make[1]: *** No rule to make target `kernel/bounds.c', needed by `kernel/bounds.s'. Stop.
[09:17] <christopheb> oh wrong
[09:17] <littlegreen> Hey guys! I have proftpd set up on Ubuntu 9.10. All is ok, but one thing: I can't login when a user has NTFS home dir. I figured out user may not have permission to moun the partition... will "sudo adduser <username> admin" solve my problem?
[09:17] <einstein1969> hi to all!
[09:17] <christopheb> the error I'm getting while doing make in a random dir: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[09:17] <christopheb> but in the folder with the makefile of the intel phc, it just keeps waiting
[09:18] <christopheb> I enter the command and a newline comes, but nothing happens
[09:18] <iceroot> don-i: have a look at man apt-get  for upgrade and dist-upgrade
[09:18] <Myrtti> littlegreen: not necessarily. would be safer to mount the partition with proper ownership flags
[09:18] <einstein1969> where i find information for problem starting Mac Os-X from ubuntu 9.10/grub2 on mac-intel mackbook? thanks
[09:18] <littlegreen> Myrtti security is really not my consern in the matter. It's a public FTP server...
[09:18] <collabra> christopheb: what are you trying to compile?
[09:19] <christopheb> intel phc
[09:19] <collabra> christopheb: what's phc/
[09:19] <collabra> ?
[09:19] <bazhang> christopheb, from a PPA?
[09:19] <don-i> iceroot, i do a apt-get update and upgrade daily, this is just the first ive seen this
[09:19] <KE1HA> are those the ICC compilers ?
[09:19] <don-i> now, i have also tried to added a ppa for amsn, and then tried to update, and thats when i noticed it
[09:19] <christopheb> bazhang, , I installed the phc kernel from ppa. But I have to compile the phc modules myself
[09:19] <don-i> so, i think i did something wrong
[09:19] <littlegreen> Myrtti anyway. How do I mount it with PROPER ownership flags? I mounted it from the gnome taskbar menu...
[09:20] <christopheb> Linux-PHC is a project to enable Linux users to undervolt their CPUs.
[09:20] <bazhang> don-i, how did you add the PPA
[09:20] <KE1HA> nvm, it's a CPU tool.
[09:20] <indus> ok what is the point of having a ppa when we have an ubuntu proposed
[09:20] <don-i> bazhang,  https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa  top paragraph
[09:20] <KE1HA> did you follow their guide for installing ?
[09:21] <bazhang> don-i, sudo add-apt-repository : PPA name ?
[09:21] <ikonia> indus: it existing long befoe the concept of PPA
[09:21] <ikonia> indus: proposed is a long standing route
[09:21] <collabra> christopheb: i see,... well, it sounds like there might be something wrong with the makefile or some component of the make
[09:21] <don-i>  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:amsn-daily
[09:21] <iceroot> don-i: and the manpage tells you why
[09:21] <christopheb> but it "did" something before I changed the symlinks, but it gave an error
[09:21] <bazhang> don-i, then you updated your sources.list (sudo apt-get update) ?
[09:21] <don-i> iceroot, ill have a look, thanks
[09:21] <don-i> bazhang, yup
[09:21] <Myrtti> littlegreen: man mount.ntfs-3g "uid=value and gid=value"
[09:22] <bazhang> don-i, what about apt-cache search appname
[09:22] <indus> ikonia, these days everyone seems to trust ppa's blindly,
[09:22] <ikonia> indus: it's an issue, I agree
[09:22] <aza> can anyone help me mount my hdds so i do not have to use password everytime?
[09:22] <indus> ikonia, i think proposed will disappear soon
[09:22] <don-i> bazhang, never used it before...
[09:22] <KE1HA> i'd delete the /src do a new ./configure make clean then install or make install whichever its calling for.
[09:22] <collabra> christopheb: it sounds like 'make' is actually working,...the problem sounds like it lays with the compile
[09:23] <don-i> bazhang, comes up with the packages
[09:23] <christopheb> I see
[09:23] <don-i> i guess those are already installed
[09:23] <littlegreen> Myrtti thanks...
[09:23] <indus> i hardly know of people using proposed, and you know ikonia ,the people testing deveopment releases why should they have proposed when even main is unstable
[09:23] <jken146> !fstab | aza
[09:23] <don-i> bazhang, i needed to do a dist-upgrade
[09:23] <KE1HA> you should be able to do a make clean if the ./confiure worked correctly.
[09:24] <don-i> when i did that, it said that those packages would be updated
[09:24] <bazhang> don-i, its fixed?
[09:24] <don-i> iceroot, good call
[09:24] <Gryphon4> Myrtti:Is there any thing wrong with this code?sudo apt-get-d ubuntu restricted extras
[09:24] <don-i> bazhang, i guess so.
[09:24] <christopheb> KE1HA, who are you talking to?
[09:24] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get -d ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:24] <Mrokii> hello. Does anybody know if it's possible to use Bios-upgrade tools with wine on Ubuntu 9.10?
[09:24] <iceroot> Gryphon4: there is much wrong
[09:24] <don-i> what exactly is dist-upgrade
[09:25] <iceroot> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get -d ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:25] <collabra> christopheb: i think he's talking to you
[09:25] <don-i> new kernel ?
[09:25] <iceroot> don-i: the same as upgrade but without holding stuff back
[09:25] <bazhang> don-i, packages held back
[09:25] <christopheb> yes, was not sure
[09:25] <SwedeMike> don-i: upgrades to newer versions which might contain new functionality, "upgrade" upgrades for simple bugfixes only.
[09:25] <KE1HA> sri wrong window, was talking about Intel ICC-Compilers in another channel, forgot I was in this one.
[09:25] <iceroot> SwedeMike: wrong
[09:25] <lanzha> hahahha...
[09:25] <don-i> so, whats a better choice, upgrade or dist-upgrade ?
[09:25] <Gryphon4> Thanks Dudes!
[09:25] <Myrtti> iceroot: beat you
[09:25] <SwedeMike> iceroot: so why are things held back?
[09:26] <lanzha> http://bayawak.tk
[09:26] <lanzha> visit my blog...
[09:26] <lanzha> http://bayawak.tk
[09:26] <lanzha> hehehe...
[09:26] <bazhang> lanzha, dont paste that here
[09:26] <iceroot> SwedeMike: because they change the install status of other packages
[09:26] <christopheb> there is no ./configure in the extracted tar
[09:26] <christopheb> it's just make prepare
[09:26] <collabra> christopheb; i would think that somethings wrong with the compile,... but i'm not there
[09:26] <ursus_> Hello! I would like to record sound from my computer. Not only with my microphone, but I would like to record all the sounds that the computer plays. Which program should I use?
[09:26] <SwedeMike> iceroot: and why do they do that?
[09:26] <christopheb> even sudo make clean doesn't do anything
[09:26] <christopheb> really strange this
[09:26] <littlegreen> Myrtti based on the manual you gave me I figure I should login with the desired user account and mount the partition through it... I read in the manual "The defaults are uid and gid of the current process." Is my logic right? :)
[09:27] <jken146> SwedeMike: No, that's not true at all. Read man apt-get
[09:28] <lanzha> where i can get ebook about linux security?
[09:28] <satish> how to get /dev/spidev automatically ?
[09:29] <SwedeMike> jken146: so if new options become available in config files etc, new major revision, I won't have to use dist-upgrade if the packages doesn't add new dependencies?
[09:29] <christopheb> pff whatever, I guess I'll just keep on being productive instead of seeking in a bunch of troubles with phc
[09:29] <indus> does all the software in proposed repo make it to main ? or stable rather
[09:30] <collabra> christopheb: :)
[09:30] <christopheb> thanks for the help collabra, but I always have kernel and compiling problems, and I just hate it
[09:30] <jken146> SwedeMike: dist-upgrade can handle changing dependencies. upgrade doesn't do this; it just doesn't upgrade packages where this would require others to be removed
[09:30] <KE1HA> what version of gcc are you using, do a gcc -v
[09:31] <satish> KE1HA : hi
[09:31] <KE1HA> It sounds more like a toolchaing problem than a package problem to me.
[09:31] <SwedeMike> jken146: yeah, that I do understand. I was under the impression that it was needed for config changes as well
[09:31] <collabra> christopheb: that's why i use distro's and rarely compile anything but a kernel or minor program
[09:31] <Gryphon4> iceroot, Myrtti: This is my computer annoying me!Ahhhhh E: Invalid operation ubuntu-restricted-extras What do i do now?
[09:31] <jken146> SwedeMike: As for new features and bugfixes, Ubuntu does not do feature updates, only security updates and bug fixes. Each new release has the new features
[09:32] <christopheb> indeed collabra, but sometimes you just have to. I just want the same battery life as on windows (twice as much as ubuntu), so I have to install phc, but I need another kernel for it and so on...
[09:32] <KE1HA> make nornally fires off a bunch of errors at you if there's something wrong with the config,  but to have it do nothing doesn't nto sound right.
[09:32] <jken146> SwedeMike: (backports is the slight exception to this)
[09:32] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras, sorry
[09:32] <exs> hi, i deinstalled gnome-desktop and now i have no sound in totem. can someone says how to restore the sound?
[09:32] <collabra> christopheb: why do you need to compile more than the kernel?
[09:33] <jken146> Myrtti, Gryphon4: apt-get -d means 'download only; don't install'
[09:33] <Myrtti> jken146: yes?
[09:33] <Myrtti> jken146: that's what he's been asking about for past two days, how to download but not to install
[09:33] <satish> Myrtti : Hi
[09:33] <christopheb> collabra, I need some modules
[09:34] <KE1HA> reading their site, you need to do it in fakeroot as well.
[09:34] <Myrtti> satish: ?
[09:34] <christopheb> KE1HA, talking to me again?
[09:34] <Myrtti> !who
[09:34]  * lanzha hahaha
[09:34] <indus> just saying hi i guess
[09:34] <collabra> christopheb: gotcha,... it should be easy :/
[09:34] <KE1HA> Yeah, was just reading the IntelPHC site.
[09:34] <satish> Myrtti : how to get /dev/spidev automatically after boot /
[09:34] <Myrtti> satish: I don't know?
[09:35] <SwedeMike> jken146: well, I do backports in debian, that's where I've seen this behaviour I'm describing.
[09:35] <Myrtti> satish: it's a device, so you need to add it
[09:35] <christopheb> I see
[09:35] <Myrtti> satish: plug it in
[09:35] <christopheb> but make doing nothing is wel raar
[09:35] <Gryphon4> Dose Anyone in this room know??????? How to download but not to install ubuntu restricted extras?
[09:35] <christopheb> *is strange
[09:35] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:35] <satish> Myrtti : what irc channel is good to discuss about driver programming ?
[09:36] <indus> Gryphon4, well, yesterday you got that answer didnt you , sudo apt-get -d
[09:36] <Myrtti> !irc | satish
[09:36] <Myrtti> satish: check also /msg alis help
[09:36] <aza> ok i have got this UUID="FA61-047F" TYPE = Vfat can someone tell me hount to auto mount it without need to enter root password?
[09:36] <KE1HA> Hve you installed build-essentials ?
[09:37] <aza> hount = how*
[09:37] <indus> Gryphon4, man apt-get will tell you all the options
[09:37] <christopheb> yes KE1HA
[09:37] <Kohar> aza add to /etc/fstab ?
[09:37] <indus> Gryphon4, so sudo apt-get -d ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <octavio> Howdy
[09:37] <jacquesdupontd> hi everybody
[09:37] <indus> jacquesdupontd, heya
[09:37] <aza> Kohar what should i write to fstab?
[09:37] <Myrtti> indus: you forgot the install.
[09:37] <Gryphon4> indus:Yes and this is the error its telling me! E: Invalid operation ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <KE1HA> Somehting in your buold toolchain is not rquite right.
[09:37] <jacquesdupontd> i have some question but we should talk about it in offtopic
[09:37] <Myrtti> Gryphon4: sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <KE1HA> oopps not quite right.
[09:37] <jacquesdupontd> indus, hey man
[09:37] <jacquesdupontd> indus, you follow me ?
[09:38] <indus> Myrtti, aah oops Gryphon4 sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:38] <GabrielSOE> Hey all
[09:38] <indus> jacquesdupontd, follow ?
[09:38] <jacquesdupontd> its about a device i wanna build and im going to buy things
[09:38] <indus> Myrtti, thanks
[09:38] <collabra> christopheb: actually, what KE1HA makes sense,...
[09:38] <KE1HA> I think I'm going to go test this.
[09:38] <collabra> christopheb: have you looked at the documentation on it?
[09:38] <christopheb> yes
[09:38] <jacquesdupontd> i mean we should talk about that on offtopic
[09:38] <christopheb> the readme
[09:38] <jacquesdupontd> well im no the channel
[09:39] <indus> jacquesdupontd, ok
[09:39] <Sorell> hey, is there an LTSP channel?
[09:39] <collabra> and you're following it to the letter?
[09:39] <Myrtti> !ltsp | Sorell
[09:39] <collabra> what's this fakeroot business
[09:39] <indus> jacquesdupontd, iam there
[09:39] <einstein1969> hi, i have a friend with problem start OS-X from karmic/grub2 on macintel : panic (cpu 0 caller 0x2ad0d5) Incompatible boot args version 1 revision 4\"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1486.2.11/usfmk/i386/AT386/model_dep.c:542 ...
[09:40] <Sorell> no then.?
[09:40] <aza> !stab
[09:40] <aza> !fstab
[09:41] <collabra> !recoveringgrub | einstein1969
[09:42] <collabra> !grub2 | einstein1969
[09:42] <KE1HA> List of Ubuntu Channels: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/chatirc
[09:42] <aza> !partitions
[09:42] <Gryphon4> Indus: the problem with (sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras) is its got INSTALL.I just want to dowwnload it. If there is now way of doing it kindly let me know.
[09:43] <indus> Gryphon4, it will only download, it wont install
[09:43] <indus> Gryphon4, who told you it will install?
[09:43] <KE1HA> just do -d --download
[09:44] <aza> !mountmanager
[09:44] <Gryphon4> yes i know thats what i want it to do. and you said-(sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[09:44] <aza> anyone have used mountmanager before?
[09:45] <collabra> Gryphon4: have you done a: man apt-get?,... it'll tell you all about it
[09:45] <indus> Gryphon4, my dear friend, just type that command and see the message, it will say 0 mb space will be used
[09:45] <KE1HA> it's -d --download-only see man page for options: man apt-get
[09:45] <indus> Gryphon4, sudo apt-get -d install packagename
[09:45] <Gryphon4> Indus may i pm you that way i will explain everything
[09:46] <indus> Gryphon4,ok
[09:46]  * indus sighs :)
[09:46] <KE1HA> If the --compile options is specified then the package will be
[09:46] <KE1HA>            compiled to a binary .deb using dpkg-buildpackage, if
[09:46] <KE1HA>            --download-only is specified then the source package will not be
[09:46] <KE1HA>            unpacked.
[09:46] <FloodBot2> KE1HA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <Gryphon4> how do i pm?
[09:46] <indus> Gryphon4, just click on my nickname
[09:46] <jken146> Gryphon4: /msg NICK MESSAGE
[09:47] <KE1HA> I'm flooding by answering the quesiton :-) Oops
[09:47] <DaveInPhx> lol
[09:47] <Gryphon4> indus just pm me
[09:49] <infid> is there a way to make a symlink to a python file that includes files relative to its path?
[09:53] <KE1HA> ln -s Isymbolic link ) should do it, but if you move the linked file, id' think the relative paths would break.
[09:53] <KE1HA> oops (symbolic link )
[09:54] <KE1HA> you could hard link it with -l but the same would apply i'd think.
[09:54] <ardchoille> I thought hard links were discouraged
[09:54] <Shwack> can anyone get dabbleboard to work with firefox on default ubuntu install?
[09:55] <KE1HA> I don't use them, I always use ln -s.
[09:55] <nibbler> KE1HA: hard links are not affected by moving one of the files
[09:57] <einstein1969> collabra: thanks collabra! I have read and tried to reinstall/recover grub, but the problem persists...
[09:57] <KE1HA> no, did say that, was referrign to the linked file that has relative paths, if you move a relative path file, it breaks those path links.
[09:57] <rbutler> How do I remove an svn repository on the server?
[09:57] <Kwpolska> hello ubunties
[09:58] <KE1HA> now you cna mve the link to it, that's not a problem, but the physical file needs to remain in place for the relative paths to render properly.
[09:58] <Kwpolska> where can I find jebuntu lucid newest test relase?
[09:59] <capron> einstein1969,  I recoverd my grub yesterday,   Booted live , mouted a new root and tok in all dev, proc /boot  chroot and then grub-install
[09:59] <bazhang> Kwpolska, jebuntu?
[09:59] <Kwpolska> oops, ubuntu.
[09:59] <ardchoille> !lucid | Kwpolska
[09:59] <bazhang> Kwpolska, lucid discussion in #ubuntu+1
[09:59] <Kwpolska> oh my god
[09:59] <Kwpolska> FAIL FOR YOU YEBUNTIES
[10:00] <GabrielSOE> how can I update with apt-get?
[10:00] <Kwpolska> sudo 'aptitude update && aptitude upgrade' #, aptitude is better
[10:00] <ardchoille> GabrielSOE: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:01] <KE1HA> update what the release?? would be sudo apget update then sudo apt-get distupgrade
[10:01] <Oyoz> does anybody know why mozilla browser fails to play nuggets files and videos???please help
[10:01] <GabrielSOE> ardchoille: thanks
[10:01] <einstein1969> capron: hi, the problem is start OS-X from karmic/grub2 on macintel : panic (cpu 0 caller 0x2ad0d5) Incompatible boot args version 1 revision 4\"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1486.2.11/usfmk/i386/AT386/model_dep.c:542 ... I have read grub2's wiki and tried to reinstall/recover grub, but the problem persists... i have restored in other machine/hardware but this not work...
[10:01] <jken146> KE1HA: No, it wouldn't.
[10:01] <ardchoille> KE1HA: That doesn't upgrade to the next release
[10:01] <Kwpolska> os-x, Mac OS X?
[10:01] <einstein1969> yes os-x is mac os-x
[10:01] <KE1HA> Oh, just do the upgrade then.
[10:02] <Kwpolska> FAIL WHO INSTALLS UBUNTU ON MAC OS X
[10:02] <jken146> KE1HA: apt-get dist-upgrade is much like apt-get upgrade, but handles dependencies differently. To upgrade to the next release, you want do-release-upgrade
[10:02] <hyperstream> AHAHAHAHAH
[10:02] <bazhang> Kwpolska, stop with the caps and the offtopic
[10:02] <hyperstream> einstein1969, AHAHAH
[10:02] <hyperstream> opps
[10:02] <FloodBot2> hyperstream: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:02] <hyperstream> >< ill shut up too.
[10:02] <ardchoille> hyperstream: please stop
[10:02] <KE1HA> sir, mis-read it.
[10:02] <einstein1969> and then...?
[10:03] <einstein1969> there is a solution?
[10:03] <KE1HA> I don't do-release-upgrade often, only for testing.
[10:03] <hyperstream> einstein1969, get a pc.
[10:03] <bazhang> hyperstream, if you are here to help be helpful
[10:04] <hyperstream> bazhang, read above ^
[10:04] <KE1HA> who was asking about Lucid ?
[10:04] <hyperstream> KE1HA, i believe Kwpolska
[10:05] <einstein1969> hyperstream, thanks but your suggestion but this is not a solution...
[10:05] <capron> einstein1969, If it is a grub2 problem you try ask for help in #grub channel
[10:05] <tapio> !make-kpkg
[10:06] <KE1HA> did he get his answer? there's an Alpha2 wiki where dl from but I don't know if there's a CVS latest release for it or not.
[10:06] <einstein1969> capron, i already ask in the grub chanell... nothing... sleeping...
[10:06] <ardchoille> KE1HA: I referred him to #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <Landroid> hi, can someone tell me why I (Lanlost) got banned? I'm logged in from my phone now
[10:06] <bazhang> KE1HA, lucid discussion is not in this channel, its #ubuntu+1
[10:06] <Landroid> I really want to know bc I didn't see it happen, regardless if it were legit or not
[10:06] <bazhang> Landroid, join #ubuntu-ops
[10:07] <Landroid> thank you
[10:07] <Gangrel> !paste
[10:08] <thechef> Is there a tool able to scan documents (supporting multiple pages documents) applying OCR and creating PDF from it, except gscan2pdf (which is buggy all around)
[10:08] <Gangrel> !imagebin
[10:09] <intgr> Hi, where can I find the package build sources for Ubuntu .deb packages?
[10:09] <Slart> thechef: I didn't find anything resembling the OCR packages that is available for windows.. there might be some parts available though
[10:10] <KE1HA> bazhang: yes, I'm aware of that, was just going to point him to the repo's, but mute point now.
[10:10] <Gangrel> logari81 http://imagebin.org/84165
[10:11] <jken146> intgr: In the usual channels. Look in /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the deb-src lines
[10:11] <capron> einstein1969, Yhee the problem with that channel is they are all sleeping :-)  ,  I dont know what too do  , but you might whant too go back too grub1
[10:11] <Slart> thechef: I ended up using the windows software in a vm.. not pretty.. but it works
[10:11] <ct529> I have difficulties on making flash player work on *ubuntu 910 at 64bit .... in Firefox cannot use the BBC iplayer .... which I can easily do on 32 bit
[10:11] <Myrtti> intgr: what do you mean?
[10:12] <jken146> ct529: use get_iplayer
[10:12] <einstein1969> capron, only grub2 support xnu kernel and new GPT format, but there is few documents... very little documentation and poor knowledge. grub1 is not the solution...
[10:12] <jken146> ct529: That is, if it's just an issue with iplayer. Does flash work in general (youtube, etc)?
[10:13] <intgr> jken146: Ah ok, thanks
[10:13] <ct529> jken146: it works on youtube, but I have random problems with other websites .... for example bbc website .... where it does not play at all
[10:14] <ct529> jken146: bbc iplayer desktop works well .... I have installed it from bbc website ....
[10:14] <thechef> Slart: Hmm well just that a VM or alternate boot is too much inconvenience overhead, so that just scanning the documents to png is the better trade off.
[10:14] <clinton> asdfasdf
[10:14] <ct529> jken146: but the videos on the bbc.co.uk/iplayer wbsite do not work at all in flash
[10:14] <jken146> ct529: ok. It might help to remove and reinstall the flash plugin. sudo apt-get purge flashplugin* && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer   (close firefox first)
[10:15] <ct529> jken146: already done several times
[10:15] <KE1HA> which add-on did you install ? Ive seen a bug report on ADFlash, but can't find it at the moment, try the swf version.
[10:15] <Slart> thechef: have you tried running the pngs through tesseract or ocropus?
[10:16] <ct529> the plugin from multiverse
[10:17] <jken146> ct529: hm, ok. In that case, I don't know what would do the trick. I use get_iplayer (a command line program) that downloads iplayer content DRM free.
[10:17] <ct529> jken146: does it allow you to search?
[10:17] <jken146> ct529: yes.
[10:17] <ct529> jken146: and doe sit allow to stream as well?
[10:17] <infid> can you cp files to a remote location like you can with scp?
[10:17] <capron> einstein1969,  That is true hope some can help you and fix that problem.  I googel you are not alone to have that error.
[10:17] <jken146> ct529: yep. You can stream it to any player
[10:17] <KE1HA> i'd go with jken146 suggestion then of that fails, bug report it and try a different plug-in
[10:18] <ct529> jken146: wow .... how?
[10:18] <jken146> ct529: It can stream to stdout, so you can do anything you like with it
[10:18] <thechef> Slart, actually the ocr feature is not that important. Just thought that if i can just push one button and it scans 30 pages, doing OCR for searching the documents later, it would be nice.
[10:18] <KE1HA> go to FF add-on's
[10:18] <ct529> jken146: yes, you just pipe it
[10:19] <Slart> thechef: yup.. that sounds nice..
[10:19] <ct529> jken146: thanks a lot!!!!
[10:20] <jken146> ct529: NP
[10:20] <lolita> hello
[10:20] <lolita> how are yo u?
[10:20] <jken146> lolita: Can we help youD?
[10:21] <Gryphon4> OK
[10:21] <bazhang> lolita, this is ubuntu support: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:21] <lolita> ok
[10:21] <indus> :)
[10:21] <hudo> hello got problem s with htaccess (ubunut 8.04/apache2 2.2.8)
[10:21] <loquitus> Is there any support for Blu Ray movies in Ubuntu?
[10:21] <Zoe> hola
[10:21] <indus> loquitus, yes it plays
[10:21] <Zoe> hello
[10:21] <ct529> loquitus: burn them or play them?
[10:22] <loquitus> indus: how? I cannot figure it out. I have an external Plextor blu ray player. just want to play
[10:22] <loquitus> not rip. well. rip might be interesting but for now only play
[10:22] <indus> loquitus, so did you open the file with movie player?
[10:22] <hudo>  .htacess and .htpasswd are in the "forbidden" directories , but are ignored from apache
[10:22] <Zoe> hello
[10:22] <loquitus> indus: stupid question but which file?
[10:22] <einstein1969> capron: but the problem persist... i wait ... thanks anyway... a lot... for your attention and civil dialogue
[10:22] <Zoe> hola
[10:22] <indus> loquitus,sorry the cd directly hmm must be encrypted
[10:22] <Zoe> oye aqui que pasa nadie me escucha
[10:22] <indus> loquitus, just put the movie in the drive and let it autoload
[10:23] <jken146> !es | Zoe
[10:23] <loquitus> indus: what will play the blu ray movie?
[10:23] <indus> loquitus, h 264 codecs provide the playback
[10:23] <indus> loquitus, any player but try vlc or mplayer ,
[10:23] <Gryphon4> And Totem
[10:23] <hazeyez> i am running ubuntu from sun virtual box... how come every time i start up, open a terminal.. it has to install irssi every time?
[10:23] <indus> loquitus, i have played some ripped movies so it does work
[10:23] <satish> how to get /dev/spidev automatically after boot ?
[10:24] <indus> 720 p
[10:24] <indus> or 1080p
[10:24] <loquitus> indus: ok so if I open it with vlc, how would I play it?
[10:24] <jken146> hazeyez: Are you running a live CD image?
[10:24] <indus> loquitus, vlc>file>open disc
[10:24] <Slart> hazeyez: huh? it installs irssi when you start the regular terminal?
[10:25] <Lanlost> Nice
[10:25] <indus> loquitus, but actually if its encryped iam not sure it will play, try it
[10:25] <KE1HA> yeah, vlc is good, so is mplayer. make sure you get all the codecs though.
[10:25] <Rishab_> hi evry one
[10:25] <hazeyez> jken.. i really dont know.. i start virtualbox.. it has a list of options.. intall ubuntu or run ubuntu without making changes to your computer.... i am running it thru VB from an ISO
[10:25] <loquitus> indus: it says that It cannot open dvd:///dev/sr2
[10:25] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[10:25] <loquitus> indus: so if it is an encrypted movie (most likely), I am hosed?
[10:25] <hazeyez> every time i open a terminal in a new ubuntu session, i type irssi and it says that its not installed
[10:25] <hazeyez> i basically have to install it everytime
[10:26] <Slart> hazeyez: ah.. then you're running the live cd..  not a hard drive instal
[10:26] <indus> loquitus, see all info is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[10:26] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[10:26] <hazeyez> i was told from #linux on dalnet.. not to install it completely
[10:26] <Slart> hazeyez: have you tried unmounting the ubuntu iso file you probably mounted to install it?
[10:26] <jken146> hazeyez: Yes, so you're running the live CD image (the ISO) in your virtual machine. You can't save changes to the live CD
[10:26] <Zoe> hola
[10:26] <indus> not easy but
[10:26] <oxymoron> ubottu: I think you are intelligent ... lol xD :D
[10:26] <indus> loquitus, not easy i mean
[10:26] <hazeyez> so basically, i have to install it fully to the partition?
[10:26] <Zoe> hello how old
[10:27] <Gryphon4> Ah indus: cheak your pm
[10:27] <jken146> hazeyez: Yes, you must install ubuntu to a partition (this could be a virtual partition that your VM deals with)
[10:27] <Slart> hazeyez: well.. either you install it (and be able to install software and such and make it stick) or you run from the live cd and get everything reset every time you reboot
[10:27] <Rishab_> hey i installed ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix.. there i could not get use of my mouse while moving in desktop ???
[10:27] <oxymoron> hazeyez: You dont have too, but it is recommended.
[10:27] <satish> any one has idea, how to get /dev/spidev automatically after boot ?
[10:28] <ct529> jken146: sorry ....for example, if I do get_iplayer --stream --type radio --pid=10013 --player "vlc"
[10:28] <Rishab_> R u der ??
[10:28] <hazeyez> so installing it will not cancel out my windows vista, right? it will basically just run only thru virtualbox?
[10:28] <indus> loquitus, so it says, you need to rip and put on hard disk then play it i think
[10:28] <indus> loquitus, aah crappy drm methods
[10:28] <Slart> hazeyez: if you install it in virtualbox, then yes
[10:28] <loquitus> indus: that's insane... I have to copy the whole damn movie to my hard drive?
[10:29] <oxymoron> hazeyez: If you install it INSIDE Virtualbox Vista wil reamin intact yes
[10:29] <indus> loquitus, just download a torrent of the movie and play it, works great
[10:29] <indus> loquitus, since you own the original copy, its legal i believe
[10:29] <bazhang> indus, dont suggest piracy here
[10:29] <hazeyez> ok... and as far as irssi goes.. im used to mIRC,.. how do i switch from one channel to another and changebackground colors, and pm people? etc
[10:29] <ct529> jken146: sorry ....for example, if I do get_iplayer --stream --type radio --pid=10013 --player "vlc"
[10:29] <jken146> ct529: you need to give it the number of a programme too.
[10:29] <Rishab_> my mouse don't work in ubuntu 9.10 verion (netbook remix)
[10:29] <loquitus> indus: I already own all these movies... that's absolutely nuts for me to download it. I want to see it in full resolution
[10:29] <Gryphon4> Indus: cheak pm
[10:29] <Slart> indus: I don't think it is.. no
[10:29] <ct529> jken146: I get http://pastebin.com/f10240205
[10:29] <indus> Slart, i dont care
[10:29] <Myrtti> hazeyez: /msg nickname for pm
[10:30] <ct529> jken146: yes, the 10013 is the pid I extracted from the list .... or am I wrong?
[10:30] <Myrtti> hazeyez: irssi.org has themes
[10:30] <bazhang> indus, you should
[10:30] <indus> Slart, iam not scared of your FBI anyway
[10:30] <bazhang> indus, dont suggest it here. Period.
[10:30] <hazeyez> and to switch channels if im in 3 channels?
[10:30] <indus> yes that i get
[10:30] <indus> stopped
[10:30] <Slart> indus: my fbi? we call them SÄPO in sweden =)
[10:30] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[10:30] <Myrtti> hazeyez: changing from window to window with alt-1, alt-2, alt-3 or ctrl-p/ctrl-n
[10:30] <Rishab_> indus can u look into my matter
[10:30] <oxymoron> Slart: Lol are you from sweden too? :D
[10:31] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[10:31] <indus> Slart, hehe sweden ok
[10:31] <uuair> Slart  SÄPO??
[10:31] <indus> Rishab_, yes what is the matter
[10:31] <Rishab_> my mouse don't work in ubuntu 9.10 verion (netbook remix)
[10:32] <hazeyez> ok great, just one more newb question for now.. where to get themes for the ubuntu os? and do you guys have any great newbie ubuntu reads for someone that is brand new to linux?
[10:32] <oxymoron> uuair: SÄPO = Svenska säkerhetspolisen (Swedish security police ...)
[10:32] <WingS212> hi
[10:32] <indus> well,torrenting is illegal iam sure, but making a copy yourself if you own a cd is not these days  (in the usa i mean )
[10:32] <ikonia> !these  | hazeyez
[10:32] <Slart> hazeyez: have a look at gnome-look.org  lots of stuff there
[10:32] <hazeyez> !these
[10:32] <Slart> !theme
[10:32] <Gryphon4> :)
[10:32] <hazeyez> do you guys like gnome or kde better?
[10:32] <indus> hey!
[10:33] <oxymoron> !cheese xD
[10:33] <indus> ok
[10:33] <ikonia> hazeyez: it's personal taste
[10:33] <oxymoron> hazeyez: kde
[10:33] <hazeyez> can you have both and switch, or no?
[10:33] <oxymoron> hazeyez: Dualboot?
[10:33] <dyustin> i like "klode"
[10:33] <hazeyez> not dualboot like windows programs on linux.. i mean can you switch from gnome to kde
[10:34] <KE1HA> hazeyez, go here, it's a good start ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserNetwork ). I like gnome and XFCE best, but it's all personal choice.
[10:34] <jken146> ct529: get-iplayer -g 10013 --type=radio --stream etc
[10:34] <WingS212> i haven't installed and haven't a (LiveCD) today, how can i look packages. Anyway to look out package list or repositories?
[10:35] <Rishab_> indus actually i could get mouse focus but the click event is not working ..
[10:35] <hazeyez> ok great, seriously thanks alot for the help guys.. i'm going to install it and ill be back
[10:35] <oxymoron> WingS212: www.launchpad.net
[10:35] <oxymoron> ppa.launchpad.net I mean
[10:35] <DJones> WingS212: You can use the web interface at http://packages.ubuntu.com/ that lets you search the apt database on line
[10:35] <Rishab_> i got this ubuntu version from digit  magzine..
[10:36] <KE1HA> here's an IRC new user classroom also: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom
[10:36] <indus> Rishab_, ubuntu 9.10?
[10:36] <Rishab_> yes indus
[10:36] <WingS212> oxymoron, i'm looking that site
[10:36] <indus> Rishab_, what laptop
[10:36] <Rishab_> actually i installed in desktop
[10:36] <ct529> jken146: that is for recording though .... not for streaming
[10:37] <WingS212> DJones, I'm looking that site too, is ubuntu package(s) any differ than debian package(s)?
[10:37] <Rishab_> indus its of IBM (desktop)
[10:37] <indus> Rishab_, what model
[10:37] <WingS212> otherwise, if can i install a package from debian under ubuntu?
[10:38] <Rishab_> indus that i on't know ..
[10:38] <KE1HA> yes, using dpkg
[10:38] <WingS212> KE1HA, should i use a command for this or directly can be use?
[10:38] <DJones> WingS212: I've not used debian so I can't answer that with any certainty, the packages will be similar, but could be some differences
[10:39] <bazhang> WingS212, no. dont mix repos from different distros
[10:39] <KE1HA> go with apt-get if you can, as it solved deps, but if you can't, the use dpkg
[10:40] <indus> Rishab_, sorry, was distracted
[10:40] <WingS212> KE1HA, thank you for way
[10:40] <KE1HA> I very rarely have to use dpkg .. I think I used it for ndiswrapper on 8.04 but that'a about it. or compile form source.
[10:41] <indus> Rishab_, netbook remix?try the regular ubuntu version, netbook remix is for netbooks
[10:42] <hellyeah> hey
[10:42] <KE1HA> I loaded 9.10 on this old d400 laptop this evening, even has an old version Intel 2200bg wireless NiC, everything worked out of the box, even sound.
[10:42] <Rishab_> thx indus i will .!!1
[10:42] <indus> Rishab_, hi
[10:43] <indus> Rishab_, sorry lost connection
[10:43] <hellyeah> i took error: A required dependency 'cups-image (CUPS image - CUPS image development files)' is still missing.
[10:43] <hellyeah> is there someone knows how can i solve that error
[10:43] <indus> Rishab_, let me get this correct, you installed netbook remix on desktop? no , install regular ubuntu
[10:43] <Rishab_> indus s
[10:43] <Gryphon4> Indus Thanks for all the Help....:)
[10:43] <Rishab_> okay indus
[10:44] <Rishab_> thx
[10:44] <jken146> ct529: get-iplayer --stream 13170 --player="vlc -"
[10:44] <indus> hey hey thanks
[10:44] <capron> Yeah ubuntu 9.10 does a good work finding drivers ,  In windows xp I have to download them
[10:44] <indus> Gryphon4, i suggest installing the downloaded stuff on another system to check if you got all the packages
[10:46] <gangil> hi , where can I get ubuntu specific patches for gdm , I want to install it from source (am trying to do some changes in the code)
[10:46] <gangil> ?
[10:46] <ct529> jken146: thanks .... it is very strange because it does not really stream .... it downloads some bytes then plays few seconds then it stops and downloads, then it player other few second stops and downloads and so on
[10:46] <KE1HA> yeeah, it's got a dual mouse, touch-pad and the knob deal in the key's, both work as well. Stick with the main branches on new releases, much less pain.
[10:46] <jken146> ct529: sounds like you need to increase the caching amount
[10:46] <Gryphon4> ok thanks indus(talk pm)
[10:47] <gangil> ^
[10:47] <hazeyez> ok guys i installed ubuntu to the hdd, but now when i load it it asks for a username and password and i never set one so it wont let me log in
[10:47] <indus> hazeyez, just use ubuntu username
[10:48] <indus> hazeyez, or just leave it and it will login anyway
[10:48] <indus> hazeyez, just 10 sec
[10:48] <KE1HA> you had to set something to get though the installer.
[10:48] <jken146> ct529: That would be the caching value in vlc
[10:48] <abhijit> hi
[10:49] <Gryphon4> :)
[10:49] <KE1HA> it even tells you if the PW is too short for good security :-)
[10:49] <abhijit> सगळ्यांना माझा नमस्कार!
[10:49] <ct529> jken146: thanks a lot
[10:49] <hazeyez> well idk.. i guess i had it installed to the hdd already froma  few nights ago, and i was just loading it from the iso by mistake
[10:49] <gangil> hi , where can I get ubuntu specific patches for gdm , I want to install it from source (am trying to do some changes in the code) .?
[10:49] <hazeyez> so now i loaded it from hdd and i dont have the login info
[10:49] <meanfiddler> hi,im totaly new to ubuntu. i have an usb wireless air link 25150, and its not working.
[10:49] <meanfiddler> when i follow the troubleshoot guides, i only get to identify that i have a "ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp." device. But what now? should i get a driver named rt3070?and how do i install it?
[10:49] <meanfiddler> wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1f:1f:55:ee:dc
[10:49] <meanfiddler> UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
[10:49] <meanfiddler> RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[10:49] <FloodBot2> meanfiddler: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <KE1HA> were you ising 9.10 Live CD ?
[10:50] <Gryphon4> :)
[10:50] <KE1HA> oops using ?
[10:50] <abhijit>  how to do graphics programming i have codelite eclipse and netbeans
[10:50] <abhijit> any idea?
[10:50] <hazeyez> so what do i do if i forgot the login info?
[10:50] <clrg> !ot | abhijit
[10:50] <jken146> hazeyez: Boot it up in recovery mode, go to a root prompt and change your password from there. If your username is joe, type    passwd joe
[10:50] <abhijit> ok
[10:51] <KE1HA> yeah that's what Id' say too, if you did't set it, you cna change it to whatever you want.
[10:52] <KE1HA> but, if he didn't set the username, does it default to user ubuntu ?
[10:52] <hazeyez> how do i start in recovery mode, how do i open a root prompt, and how do i change the username not only the password? sorry but plz help me with this
[10:52] <jken146> KE1HA: If he installed it then he must have set a username and password
[10:52] <indus> can anyone tell me what is the consensus on documentation on the ubuntu website
[10:52] <indus> i mean what about illegal stuff
[10:52] <hazeyez> on the login screen go to options>restart?
[10:52] <indus> ok off topic maybe
[10:52] <Hitch> hi all!
[10:52] <bazhang> !piracy > indus
[10:52] <Gryphon4> :)
[10:53] <Hitch> I wanna install ubuntu with netboot.. Can help for me anybody?
[10:53] <KE1HA> yeah, I know, if he went though the installer, it had to of set UN & PW.  F8 or F2, it splashes on the screen.
[10:53] <jken146> hazeyez: You've installed Ubuntu on a hard disk, yes?
[10:53] <hazeyez> yes
[10:53] <hazeyez> i was at the login screen
[10:53] <hazeyez> options is in the lower left hand corner
[10:53] <indus> bazhang, i mean , the wiki.ubuntu.com pages
[10:53] <hazeyez> i do not have the login info
[10:53] <bazhang> indus, please join #ubuntu-ops
[10:54] <indus> bazhang, ok
[10:54] <Hitch> :S
[10:54] <KE1HA> netboot install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[10:54] <jken146> hazeyez: ok. Restart then, and when you see "GRUB loading..." press Escape and choose Ubuntu ... (Recover mode) in the menu. Press Enter.
[10:54] <abhijit> इथे मराठीत टाइप केले तर चालते का?
[10:55] <hazeyez> ok did that
[10:55] <hazeyez> scrolling thru a whole bunch of nonsense
[10:55] <KE1HA> not nonsense, that's good stuff :-)
[10:55] <albasheers> Do ubuntu have any Instant Message sniffer like (sniff IM)
[10:56] <hazeyez> well im eager to understand it all.. i thank you guys for the help
[10:56] <jken146> hazeyez: yes, it will do. It should give you a choice. Go for 'root prompt' or WTTE
[10:56] <KE1HA> I learn allot from these guys here everyday, as well as the bigs channel.
[10:57] <KE1HA> oops bugs channel. Now if I could only learn to type, Id' be all set.
[10:57] <hazeyez> ok so i have root@tony-laptop:~#_
[10:57] <hazeyez> now what
[10:57] <hazeyez> is tony-laptop my username?
[10:57] <KE1HA> no, that's the name you gave the box.
[10:58] <jken146> hazeyez: no, that's the hostname (name of the computer). This should show you the user name: ls /home
[10:58] <hazeyez> ohh ok
[10:58] <jken146> Did it say tony?
[10:59] <quietone> or 'whoami' for username
[10:59] <KE1HA> just do a cat /etc/passwd   if your logged in as root
[10:59] <KE1HA> that will list all yoru users.
[10:59] <hazeyez> ok ok .. i set the passwd... now how to reboot from here?
[10:59] <jken146> KE1HA: overkill
[10:59] <KE1HA> then you can change the pw of your normal sudo user.
[10:59] <jken146> haz reboot
[10:59] <jken146> hazeyez: reboot
[10:59] <hazeyez> lol i tried that and it worked
[11:00] <KE1HA> well he dont know what username he created.
[11:00] <tryggvib> has anybody here set up jde (java development environment for emacs)... it's having a hard time finding a json file
[11:00] <Noisek79> !iphone
[11:00] <jken146> quietone: he was root
[11:00] <KE1HA> do did he create a user then ?
[11:00] <jken146> KE1HA: No, that was created when he installed. He just found out what the username was, and changed the password
[11:01] <KE1HA> Oh. II missed where he found the username .. how'd he do that ?
[11:01] <hazeyez> ok great... last question before i go read for hours ok... like i said i have ubuntu 9.04 running in virtualbox...  the resolution is set to 600x800.. that is the highest resolution but it does not fill the whole VB screen... how do i get ubuntu to maximize its screen res?
[11:01] <jken146> KE1HA: ls /home
[11:01] <Gryphon4> Ubottu: may i pm you
[11:01] <KE1HA> LOL.. rrr yeah, that's easy enough.
[11:02] <jken146> hazeyez: The max you can get will depend on what virtualbox does (resizingthe window somehow). Then look in System->Preferences->Display
[11:03] <KE1HA> Im just used to going to the user list, not the /homes. Its ok I suppose if there's one or two users, but hundreds, makes it tricky.
[11:03] <albasheers> Do ubuntu have any Instant Message sniffer like (sniff IM)
[11:04] <Gryphon4> Dose any one know how to get a 5th generation ipod to work on ubuntu????:)
[11:04] <hazeyez> jken it says the largest is 800x600 but it doesnt fill the screen?
[11:04] <MenZa> !anyone | Gryphon4
[11:04] <MenZa> !ipod | Gryphon4
[11:05] <jken146> hazeyez: It might be a bit funny in a VM with this sort of thing. What does 'lspci | grep VGA' tell you?
[11:05] <zilkomaa> Hi, i formatted with gparted one of my ntfs partitions to ext4 to have more storage space in my ubuntu 9.10(i have ubuntu already installed). Is there a another way to use than mount it everytime i wanna access to it?
[11:06] <KE1HA> that's a good bot response, it should say try Google The Quesiton First  :-)
[11:06] <MenZa> !fstab | zilkomaa (Have a look at this)
[11:06] <hazeyez> jken, type that in a terminal?
[11:06] <jken146> hazeyez: yep
[11:06] <MenZa> !google | KE1HA
[11:06] <Gryphon4> Menza: my rhythembox wont allow me to put music on my ipod? have any advice?
[11:06] <KE1HA> Ouch, ok, now im in trouble with the Bot.
[11:06] <ecolitan> i cannot run logwatch from cron, it says it cannot execute sendmail. run from terminal normally works fine
[11:07] <MenZa> Gryphon4: Have you read the docs the bot linked?
[11:07] <MenZa> KE1HA: Not at all :)
[11:07] <Gryphon4> Yes
[11:07] <MenZa> Gryphon4: And you're still having problems?
[11:07] <Gryphon4> my ipod is reading but it wont play music
[11:07] <zilkomaa> ubottu: Thank you very much appreciated!
[11:07] <indus> Gryphon4, you have many questions :)
[11:08] <Gryphon4> I know indus mabe you can ANSWER:)
[11:08] <indus> Gryphon4, so you plug in ipod and rhythmbox starts reading it hm
[11:08] <MenZa> Gryphon4: Your iPod won't play music?
[11:09] <indus> Gryphon4, the ipod if reads it should play it< i
[11:09] <indus> i have seen it work but i dont have one so cant really say
[11:09] <Gryphon4> rhythembox is reading but wont allow me to play music, it gose on
[11:10] <indus> Gryphon4, restart the application
[11:10] <Gryphon4> ???????????how
[11:11] <indus> Gryphon4, well, how do you close rhythmbox? make it quit from x button, also, do you have the codecs to play
[11:11] <indus> aah my mistake
[11:13] <KE1HA> did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ? Isn't that required for mp3?
[11:14] <hazeyez> jken146: that command says " VGA compatible controller Innotek Systemberatung gmbh virtualbox graphics adapter
[11:15] <indus> Guest16752, hello to change nick type /nick newnick
[11:17] <r3104d> Hello
[11:17] <KE1HA> hello
[11:17] <trimler> Anyone alive out there that can help me with a problem?
[11:17] <r3104d> Funny. I've got a problem too! lol
[11:18] <r3104d> What's yours?
[11:18] <KE1HA> i suppose it depends on the problem, but we can have a go at it.
[11:18] <bullgard> What program sets sets the environment variable DEBEMAIL?
[11:18] <neo_> ciao a tutti
[11:18] <trimler> I'm trying to install Ubuntu and when it boots into it, my screen can't handle the resolution, therefore I can't see anything
[11:18] <jpds> bullgard: Your .bashrc ?
[11:19] <trimler> It doesn't give me the option to choose a resolution before that
[11:19] <jpds> bullgard: Or export DEBEMAIL="you@somewhere.com" ?
[11:19] <bullgard> jpds: I'd appreciate an answer and no question.
[11:19] <r3104d> What vs. do you have trim?
[11:19] <KE1HA> I think there set during build
[11:19] <neo_> where is someone that connet on tiscali irc????
[11:20] <KE1HA> xport DEBEMAIL="my@emailaddress.com"
[11:20] <KE1HA> export DEBFULLNAME="Full Name"
[11:20] <neo_> c è qualche italiano?
[11:20] <DJones> !it | neo_
[11:20] <trimler> I downloaded and installed version 9.10
[11:20] <neo_> thx ubottu
[11:20] <jpds> bullgard: Remove the "?" from my last two sentences then.
[11:21] <r3104d> Not certain then. I came at it from a different direction.
[11:21] <r3104d> I had options.
[11:21] <jpds> bullgard: It's just a shell environment variable.
[11:22] <hazeyez> jken146: i was told for the resolution problem to install guest addons, where is that?
[11:22] <KE1HA> yeah, that's all ya need to do is export it in .bashrc or whatever your shell is.
[11:22] <Spajderix> Hi, I've recently installed pure-ftpd on 8.04 and tried to do custom authentication as described in http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/README.Authentication-Modules. Everything start fine, socket file is being created, but when trying to connect via ftp command i get "No control connection for command: No such file or directory" with 421 error code. run script is simple python script that
[11:22] <Spajderix> prints out everything needet to succesfully authenticate, and there is no error in dmesg; /var/log/messages or stdout according what went wrong. Does anyone know how to fix it?
[11:22] <bullgard> jpds: I know that it is a shell environment variable. And I would like to know which program did it set.
[11:22] <naster> witam ma problem z javascirpt :)
[11:22] <KE1HA> could use .profile also.
[11:23] <naster> mam funkcje addStat(stat)
[11:23] <naster> i teraz jak moge przekazac zmienna stat z argumentow funckji
[11:23] <naster> do document.forms.formularz.(TU ten stat).value = xxx;
[11:23] <bazhang> !pl | naster
[11:23] <jpds> bullgard: None, you set it in your shell's configuration file, or with export.
[11:23] <naster> ups
[11:23] <naster> sorry
[11:23] <r3104d> Does ne1 know how to see other Win. clients on a wireless network?
[11:23] <hazeyez> i was told for the resolution problem to install guest addons, where is that?
[11:24] <jken146> hazeyez: IIRC that's a virtualbox thing, so you'll need to install it in your host system
[11:24] <r3104d> It seems the only time I can see them is when Were all on a Domain.
[11:25] <zilkomaa> How to enable this? Turn on sound support (soundcore module, default turn on)
[11:26] <helpmepls> henho
[11:26] <LaireTM> when i use top he shows me: Mem:   3368828k total,  3201328k used,   167500k free,   132136k buffers, but when i add the % from the list i just  get 30% ram usage
[11:26] <helpmepls> '2
[11:26] <helpmepls> LiveOrNot
[11:26] <helpmepls> LiveOrDie
[11:26] <KE1HA> Spajderix, sounds like it can't find the auth file dir, but im not real familiar wiht pureFTP, as I use sftp mostly.
[11:27] <KE1HA> Im looking at the site now.
[11:27] <r3104d> So ne1 know about Ubuntu and wireless networking?
[11:28] <r3104d> ?
[11:30] <zilkomaa> Im installing sound card drivers, because my sound scratches here is the manual for driver install but i dont know that one part how to turn on sound support. Here is the whole installation guide: http://paste.ubuntu.com/373139/
[11:31] <zilkomaa> I understand everything else but that that step 2.
[11:32] <bullgard> jpds: ~/.bashrc includes a line: "export DEBEMAIL='foo@bar'." What program wrote this line into this file?
[11:32] <Sorell> does anyone here use LTSP?
[11:33] <KE1HA> I use / have several versions of 8.04 running, what's the question.
[11:34] <xen> hello
[11:34] <zilkomaa> How i turn soundcore module / sound support on?
[11:34] <xen> m completely new to the linux enviroment
[11:34] <KE1HA> zilkomaa, according to the docs, it's turned on by default.
[11:34] <zilkomaa> KE1HA: Ok, Ty.
[11:35] <xen> hey guyzz wat music player do u ppl use?
[11:35] <KE1HA> vls or mplayer
[11:35] <KE1HA> oops vlc
[11:35] <xen> hmmmm
[11:35] <xen> i gt a huge library
[11:35] <xen> used itunes in windows
[11:35] <xen> any recommendations on linux
[11:36] <KE1HA> that is the recommendation for Linux :-)
[11:36] <xen> coooo
[11:36] <xen> thnxxx
[11:36] <Spajderix> xen: Exaile
[11:36] <xen> ??
[11:36] <Sorell> KE1HA: I am trying to setup a LTSP server
[11:36] <KE1HA> there's lots of them though, but mplayer and VLC seem to get the most attention from what I see.
[11:36] <Sorell> KE1HA: and am having a bear of a time at it
[11:36] <xen> kk fine...thnxx a lot
[11:37] <KE1HA> Sorell, just download the ub-8.04-server version then. it's a dead easy install.
[11:37] <Sorell> KE1HA: the problem seems to be that there is some sort of DHCP client
[11:37] <Sorell> KE1HA: I am using the alternatives cd
[11:38] <KE1HA> well, depends, if you want the server to be a DHCP server, then you need to set it up, else, it's is just a DHCP client.
[11:38] <Sorell> KE1HA: IDK what version
[11:38] <Sorell> that's fine but
[11:38] <Sorell> when it's just a client
[11:38] <funqshun> after i dropped my laptop by accident, it keeps logging off on its own, what can i do? i run karmic
[11:38] <Sorell> it doesn't seem to be able to host thins clients
[11:39] <KE1HA> Yeah, the alternative CD is commandline only install, that's what I use.
[11:39] <Sorell> right
[11:39] <xen> wat irc chat client r u ppl using?
[11:40] <KE1HA> IUm, yeah it can host Thin Clients, b ut you have to set up the DHCP Server, not just the client on the server itself.
[11:40] <fenre> bitchx
[11:40] <fuzzybunny> is there anyway to associate evolution with .ics files so that it imports them by double clicking on them?
[11:40] <suigeneris> xen xchat
[11:40] <funqshun> xen: i use pidgin
[11:40] <funqshun> can anyone help me with my automatically logging off machine pls?
[11:40] <KE1HA> xchat here. but gonna try Pidgin
[11:41] <joebodo> fuzzybunny, you can set up a mime type
[11:41] <xen> thank u again.... m using xchat presently.... pretty nice atmosphere in here
[11:41] <Sorell> well when I try to be the server it doesn't seem to want to give out ips
[11:41] <fuzzybunny> joebodo, is there a faq or some guide that explains how to do that?
[11:41] <Sorell> even when it's the only DHCP server on the network
[11:41] <archboxman> KE1HA: using xchat not great like my irssi :)
[11:42] <KE1HA> tyhere's a whoel section on the Ubuntu Server Guide section on setting up as a DHCP server. 2x NIC and a switch, etc etc.
[11:42] <xen> wait aa sec... xchat vs irssi... which 1s better?
[11:42] <KE1HA> Yeah, I just loaded one real quick, so irssi is better ?
[11:42] <joebodo> fuzzybunny, 1 sec- i have some notes somewhere
[11:43] <iceroot> !best | xen
[11:43] <Sorell> KE1HA: yeah I have 2 nics
[11:43] <Sorell> and dhcpd3 is running
[11:43] <Sorell> :(
[11:43] <fuzzybunny> I have a massive amount of .ics files and I really don't want to manually locate each one and import them.
[11:44] <KE1HA> Sorell: it's far to much to go into here, but follow the Ubuntu Server Guide, it's pretty good.
[11:44] <Sorell> ty
[11:44] <xen> its just m new to the linux environment.... trying to get to knw things frm the ppl arnd here...
[11:44] <bullgard> jpds: ~/.bashrc includes a line: "export DEBEMAIL='foo@bar'." What program wrote this line into this file?
[11:44] <joebodo> fuzzybunny, http://paste.ubuntu.com/373146/
[11:45] <xen> hw do u run .tar.gz files?
[11:45] <hazeyez> hello how do i install guest additions in virtual box
[11:45] <joebodo> fuzzybunny, last line is for testing the mime type
[11:45] <KE1HA> Sorell: here's another guide that's pretty good also: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html
[11:45] <hazeyez> i go to do it and it says file cannot be found, unmount something
[11:45] <jrib> xen: you don't.  Why do you want to exactly?
[11:46] <r3104d> Does anyone know how I can see the Windows machines on my wireless network?
[11:46] <jrib> hazeyez: be precise with errors to get better help please.  Try #vbox for that one though
[11:46] <KE1HA> On'ce you've done one DHCP server, you ask your self why you spent the money on a router, it's real easy.
[11:46] <fuzzybunny> joebodo, it just opened a blank overrides.xml is there a specific line I have to put in there?
[11:46] <xen> i downloaded an apllication.... its on my desktop.... .tar.gz format... no idea abt wat to do next
[11:46] <jrib> hazeyez: actually, if the guest system is ubuntu, the guest additions should be in the repositories too
[11:47] <jrib> xen: be specefic.  What application?
[11:47] <xen> sonbird
[11:47] <Sorell> thanks KE1HA I will give that a look
[11:47] <xen> /songbird.
[11:47] <KE1HA> well move it to Downloads or something first, you don't want to extract it to your desktop :-)
[11:47] <xen> hmmm
[11:47] <xen> next
[11:47] <joebodo> fuzzybunny, i cant pastebin an example cause it's xml
[11:48] <jrib> xen: you don't install songbird with a tar.gz.  One sec
[11:49] <joebodo> fuzzybunny, look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726230
[11:49] <funqshun> hello, i was autologged out again - help!
[11:50] <Demian> hi, anyone have problems with firefox and flash audio? i mean, i can visualize well the videos, but suddenly the audio stops working
[11:50] <funqshun> after i dropped my ibm r51 thinkpad running karmic, ubuntu logs out on its own automatically - help!
[11:51] <r3104d> Does anyone know how I can see the Windows machines on my wireless network?
[11:51] <KE1HA> r3104d,  what you trying to do
[11:52] <Myrtti> funqshun: you physically broke something in the machine.
[11:52] <jrib> xen: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird but there's also a daily ppa you may be interested in: https://edge.launchpad.net/~songbird-daily/+archive/ppa
[11:52] <jrib> !software > xen
[11:52] <xen> thnxx a lot jrib
[11:52] <fucnqshun> jrib: you think so? i'm typing on the same machine right now
[11:52] <xen> i'lll try n lt u knw
[11:52] <Myrtti> fucnqshun: if this started after you dropped it, quite probably.
[11:53] <xen> thnxx
[11:53] <r3104d> I can't see or be seen (MY other windows boxes)on my wireless network.
[11:53] <iceroot> r3104d: you can see them by "ping"?
[11:53] <KE1HA> you need to log into your router to see them.
[11:53] <KE1HA> unless your router is a DHCP server like we were just talkign about.
[11:54] <KE1HA> yes you should be able to ping them though.
[11:54] <r3104d> No. Can't even tell there's another system there.
[11:54] <KE1HA> that's a good thing, that's how its supposed to be.
[11:55] <r3104d> Unless you're wanting to xfer files and what not.
[11:55] <KE1HA> on your WinDoze box you'd need to share the folders, or use Samba on the Linux bos to share their folders.
[11:55] <joebodo> r3104d, do u have a firewall on ur windows box ?
[11:55] <r3104d> So that's what Samba's for?
[11:56] <SmokeyD> hey everyone, can I access my stored passwords (in seahorse) on another partition? I am running from a live cd right now and want to check a password that I know I stored in seahorse in ubuntu on my fixed drive
[11:56] <hazeyez> i am trying to install guest addons on virtualbox... it comes up with this error
[11:56] <hazeyez> i got to devices>install guest addons.. it says error: unable to mount cd image c:progra~1\sun\virtua~1\vboxguestadditions.iso... would you like to force mounting? | could not mount the media c:progra~1\sun\virtua~1\vboxguestadditions.iso  (VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED) i click <force unmount> and nothing happens| could not mount the media
[11:56] <hazeyez> what can i do?
[11:56] <KE1HA> Oh man, it does allot, but basically, file and print server sharing.
[11:57] <KE1HA> for a windows box to see Linux folders, you create a Samba shared folder, and on windows, you simply share the folder though with windows sharing utility.
[11:58] <etfb> The suspend/resume feature on my laptop has stopped working.  Can someone point me to an article or tutorial on how to troubleshoot this?  It seems to have happened with the latest kernel upgrade, but booting with an older kernel doesn't help.
[11:58] <KE1HA> hazeyez, you probably need to create the mount point first.
[11:59] <hazeyez> can you please explaint hat to me
[12:00] <KE1HA> make a dir: mkdir /dev/mnt then mount it mount /dev/cdrom -t iso9660 /mnt/cdrom
[12:01] <hazeyez> ok then go to install guest addons?
[12:01] <mobius2> greetings
[12:01] <hyperstream> mobius2, hello
[12:01] <KE1HA> yeah, they will probably already be there as it's copying those to /tmp or something like that.
[12:01] <hazeyez> ok ill try it, standby
[12:02] <KE1HA> I don't do allot of of Linux VM, mostly use VMPlayer on WinDoze box's but it's the same principal.
[12:02] <mobius2> I am deeply entrenched in  an attempt to make a win32 swf decompiler run  in Crossover. I am afraid I've hit the end of the line. I am out of ideas
[12:03] <KE1HA> what the virtual application your using ?
[12:03] <bullgard> jpds: ~/.bashrc includes a line: "export DEBEMAIL='foo@bar'." What program wrote this line into this file?
[12:04] <jpds> bullgard: I have no ide.a
[12:05] <bullgard> jpds: Thank you for your help.
[12:05] <secret> Can someone please tell a newbie how to create a new directory in the home directory?
[12:05] <bullgard> mkdir
[12:05] <mobius2> zillion hands go up
[12:05] <KE1HA> mkdir ~/name of directory
[12:05] <dregin> hi
[12:05] <secret> I want to create a directory called spanish 3
[12:05] <wejick> secret, open your nautilus
[12:05] <KE1HA> r3104d .. you still there, I just saw your PM.
[12:05] <secret> ok
[12:05] <dregin> my grub binary, menu.lst and stage1 have disappeared. Was there a grub update released recently??
[12:06] <wejick> secret, mkdir spanish\ 3
[12:06] <wejick> secret, '\' is escape carachter
[12:06] <secret> wejick is that something I need to put in the terminal ?
[12:07] <ct529> jken146: get_iplayer is really good .... it is working well!
[12:07] <KE1HA> Grub2 doesnt' use menu.1st anymore its .cfg I think now.
[12:07] <wejick> ya, if you need gui you can use your nautilus
[12:07] <mobius2> secret,  I would suggest using the graphical interface called Nautilus to make file system changes until you are more adept with the terminal.  If you need root access for some reason ,  you can start Nautilus as root with  limited  powers by typing  sudo nautilus
[12:07] <ct529> jken146: do you know whether there is anything of that sort for other services, like arte or lovefilm?
[12:07] <hazeyez> ke1ha: cannot make directory /dev/mnt
[12:08] <hazeyez> :(
[12:08] <secret> ok so I have opened nautilus.....
[12:08] <wejick> any one can you try this? http://sisrestore.googlecode.com/files/Sisrestore%200.9.4.tar.bz2
[12:08] <mobius2> secret, where would you like the  new directory to be located in your file system?
[12:09] <secret> in the home directory
[12:09] <KE1HA> Oh, right, do you have a cdrom already on the machine ?  if so just mount /dev/cdrom
[12:09] <KE1HA> then cd cdrom
[12:09] <mobius2> secret,  you should see the current root directory in your nautilus window,  simply click the up arrow until you  are able to find HOME then  open the HOME directory and you  should  be able to find your way  throughout your own  username filesystem from there
[12:10] <KE1HA> also, what virtual application are you using ?
[12:10] <mobius2> secret,  just remember unless you typed sudo  you will already  be in your  username
[12:10] <hazeyez> ke1ha: /dev/sr0 already mounted
[12:10] <KE1HA> then all you need to do is cd cdrom
[12:11] <loquitus> I just restarted my system and got a kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs... but when I went and chose an older kernel from grub, it booted fine... what gives?
[12:11] <KE1HA> then do an ls to see if the add-ons are there.
[12:11] <secret> ok so I have gone to places then the home folder, where do I need to go from there, I am a complete and utter novice with ubuntu unfortunately, sorry
[12:11] <wejick> mobius2, secret use menu [places]->[home]
[12:11] <loquitus> actually, the other difference is when it worked, I had booted from the ubuntu cd and said to boot off the first hard disk... so perhaps that was the difference
[12:11] <mobius2> do you  see a directory  with your normal level username?
[12:12] <mobius2> if not then  just type the address in the  location bar
[12:12] <hazeyez> ke1ha: bash: cd: cdrom: no such file or directory
[12:12] <KE1HA> hazeyez, i need to know what applicaiton your virtual software is, I cna help you netter that way
[12:13] <KE1HA> oppps can help you better ....
[12:13] <secret> wejick, I am in the home directory
[12:13] <Spanglish_7776> hazeyes try cd /media/cdrom
[12:13] <capron> I compile the kernel only two changes ( Pentium4 , and no kernel debug )   ,   It there somthing I shud know before running make modules-install and mkinitramfs
[12:13] <KE1HA> yeah, that was where I was going next, /media or /media/cdrom
[12:14] <sa1> what's the fuck? :O
[12:14] <hazeyez> ok im there
[12:14] <Spanglish_7776> hazeyes,  all one command "cd /media/cdrom" without the quotes.
[12:14] <indus> no need to go anywhere, just type mount in terminal and see under what device name its mounted, probably /dev/sr0 these days
[12:14] <Spanglish_7776> cool
[12:14] <kimv> hello could some 1 please tell me why evotution mail can recive but not send error message siad it has a broken pipe
[12:14] <hazeyez> ok.. next
[12:15] <sa1> Llykil LiveOrNot
[12:15] <mobius2> secret   open a terminal and type  mkdir  <spanish3>  and hit enter
[12:15] <KE1HA> now look for your files, are they there, what does the install instructions tell you to do ?
[12:15] <hazeyez> idk what to do bro.. im retarded plz help with details
[12:15] <hazeyez> lol
[12:15] <n00p> guys, my system hibernated while I was watching a flash video and now I've lost my sound... I could reboot and it'd probably come back, but does anyone know a more convenient way to recover my sound?
[12:15] <secret> I have done, thanks for your help a directory is the same as a folder
[12:16] <IP-v6> is "dpkg --list" only showing installed packages ?
[12:16] <indus> n00p, restart firefox
[12:16] <Spanglish_7776> hazeyes, I just got in, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to accomplish
[12:16] <n00p> indus: tried it
[12:16] <KE1HA> I need to know what virtual application your setting up.
[12:16] <indus> n00p, logout and login again
[12:16] <xguru> n00p, type alsamixer and see if you have the volume turned up sometimes it mutes
[12:17] <MoPi> n00p, does "/etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart" help?
[12:17] <indus> n00p, or from system monitor, restart pulseaudio
[12:17] <indus> or try MoPi suggestions
[12:17] <MoPi> propably need to put sudo in front of that
[12:17] <bullgard> ~/.bashrc includes a line: "export DEBEMAIL='foo@bar'." What program wrote this line into this file?
[12:17] <hazeyez> spanglish: i got to devices>install guest addons.. it says error: unable to mount cd image c:progra~1\sun\virtua~1\vboxguestadditions.iso... would you like to force mounting? | could not mount the media c:progra~1\sun\virtua~1\vboxguestadditions.iso  (VERR_PDM_MEDIA_LOCKED) i click <force unmount> and nothing happens| could not mount the media
[12:17] <secret> I am going to have to keep a note of all these terminal commands thanks again
[12:17] <hazeyez> now im in /media/cdrom for whatever reason.. idk wut to do
[12:18] <n00p> MoPi trying now
[12:18] <abhijit> how fix the bug in ubuntu?
[12:18] <wejick> capron, try this http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
[12:18] <KE1HA> bullgard: the DEBMAIL install put that in your .bashrc
[12:18] <abhijit> where to start?
[12:18] <indus> abhijit, what bug
[12:18] <indus> !launchpad
[12:18] <mobius2> is anyone here familiar with the commercial-facet of the Wine project?  Cross-Over  and it's counter part Crossover Games?
[12:18] <KE1HA> hazeyez, again, what virtual application are you installing ?
[12:18] <Spanglish_7776> oh, you're trying to load guest addons for a virtualbox virtual machine. ok. well
[12:18] <n00p> nope didn't work MoPi
[12:19] <Spanglish_7776> vbox.
[12:19] <bullgard> KE1HA: What do you mean by 'DEBMAIL install'?
[12:19] <hazeyez> i am trying to instal guest additions in virtualbox for ubuntu
[12:19] <indus> n00p, just logout and login
[12:19] <KE1HA> Virtual Box, that's what I was looking for, yes that's what he's installing.
[12:19] <hazeyez> vbox is installed.. i am running ubuntu on vbox... i am trying to install guest additions
[12:20] <xguru> indus, have any idea why or how to fix the problem i'm having with alsamixer?  Every time i reboot its muted the master volume?
[12:20] <capron> wejick, Thanks I will read this ,  I am just a littel bit afraid that I will mes up the system.
[12:20] <abhijit> i am programmer
[12:20] <abhijit> i am student
[12:20] <indus> xguru, yes, i think you mute the system before shutting down, and it remembers the setting
[12:20] <KE1HA> when you installed debmail, it added that to your profile. or if the system had it installed by default, look at ./etc/bashrc and your'll see it there, if so all new users added will get it in their profile.
[12:20] <abhijit> assume that i want to sovle some bug then whts the procedure?
[12:20] <indus> xguru, do one thing, shutdown while making sure sound is full, then reboot and see
[12:21] <indus> xguru, then we can trouble shoot further
[12:21] <xguru> indus, nope, fresh install...booted up muted and reboot with it up and still reboots muted
[12:21] <indus> abhijit, well, ask in #ubuntu-bugs
[12:21] <abhijit> ok
[12:21] <indus> abhijit, but, yes there are procedures
[12:21] <wejick> capron, it's ok ;)
[12:21] <indus> !bug
[12:21] <abhijit> yah
[12:21] <cool> !wireless
[12:21] <indus> abhijit, start with that link above
[12:22] <Spanglish_7776> hazeyes - you're on windows?
[12:22] <user_> someone gay here?
[12:22] <abhijit> ok
[12:22] <accroft> Hello. Can any1 help me with making my Ubuntu partiton larger? I have only 40 GB, and i have 150 gb free space
[12:22] <jken146> ct529: Not that I know of. get_iplayer exploits the BBC's iphone service (their DRM didn't work on the iphone).  It did work ages ago with ITV player, but not anymore.  For other things, there's always bittorrent :)
[12:22] <abhijit> No!
[12:22] <indus> accroft, use a live cd partition editor and do it
[12:22] <abhijit> i dont want to file a bug
[12:22] <user_> gay??
[12:22] <accroft> indus, how?
[12:22] <indus> abhijit, ok 1 sec
[12:22] <abhijit> I want to help solve the filed bug
[12:23] <hazeyez> spanglish: yes vista
[12:23] <bullgard> ! who | KE1HA
[12:23] <ct529> jken146: bittorrent? directly on arte or lovefilm ....
[12:23] <xguru> indus, nope, fresh install...booted up muted and reboot with the volume up and still reboots muted
[12:23] <indus> xguru, 1 sec
[12:24] <indus> abhijit, read fully
[12:24] <xguru> indus, no problem...seem busy :)
[12:24] <indus> abhijit, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment
[12:24] <SOBER87> hello, how can i see the total disk space and the used disk? is there any command?
[12:24] <indus> accroft, you have a live cd?
[12:24] <Spanglish_7776> open explorer and got o c:\program files\sun\virtualbox
[12:24] <abhijit> indus, ok i now read that page
[12:24] <accroft> indus, yes.
[12:24] <hazeyez> ok there
[12:24] <KE1HA> Man, the bot is beating me up this evening :-)
[12:25] <indus> accroft, so use that, and there is a partition editor in the menu which will help resize partitions
[12:25] <Spanglish_7776> hazeyes: do you see vboxguestadditions.iso anywhere
[12:25] <accroft> indus, i'll try that! Thanks :)
[12:25] <indus> xguru, happens all the time?
[12:25] <hazeyez> spanglish: yes
[12:26] <xguru> indus, everytime...
[12:26] <indus> xguru, maybe a config issue, i had this problem once but went away on its own
[12:26] <Spanglish_7776> hmmm. weird, that error suggests virtualbox couldn't find the vboxguestadditions.iso
[12:26] <hazeyez> it said it couldnt find it in ubuntu tho
[12:27] <indus> xguru, but you have sound  once u increase vol?
[12:27] <hazeyez> the error message
[12:27] <xguru> indus, it started on karmic and i've installed lucid and still having the problem so its not tied to one specific version of ubuntu
[12:27] <Gangrel> indus still willing to help on mounting?
[12:27] <xguru> indus, yes i have to unmute the master volume through alsamixer
[12:27] <indus> xguru, ok found something
[12:28] <indus> xguru, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=764576
[12:28] <indus> Gangrel, yes
[12:28] <Spanglish_7776> hazeyes, I have to go (at work now) snows getting bad here and I need to go home, if you're still here I'll continue to try and help.
[12:28] <indus> Gangrel, what happened
[12:28] <Gangrel> indus yesterday it crashed
[12:28] <indus> Gangrel, what u mean crashed?
[12:28] <indus> !u
[12:28] <jken146> ct529: No, just in general
[12:29] <hazeyez> spanglish can i get a time estimate?
[12:29] <ct529> jken146: but how do you use it for lovefilm or arte?
[12:29] <Gangrel> indus i got system failure so i undid everything
[12:29] <Spanglish_7776> about 30 mins
[12:29] <Spanglish_7776> give or takie
[12:29] <indus> Gangrel, at bios ?
[12:29] <Spanglish_7776> take*
[12:29] <hazeyez> ok ill be here, can you PM me
[12:29] <indus> Gangrel, thats a diff problem
[12:29] <cosmodad> how do I restart the mixer application?
[12:29] <KE1HA> hazeyez, sri mate, but i'm not a vbox guru, don't use it, can't get ya much further on this one.
[12:29] <jken146> ct529: You don't
[12:29] <ct529> jken146: oh and do you know if it is possible to print stream information through get_iplayer? like url and so on ....
[12:30] <Gangrel> indus nope from ubuntu anyway i restored everything but i am still on the same point of mounting the disks
[12:30] <indus> Gangrel, i think you mounted too many partitions on diff points
[12:30] <Gangrel> indus today i used mountmanager to mount them so i get fstab automatically filled
[12:31] <jken146> ct529: I *think* there's an option that makes it spit out all the info it has on a programme, something like --streaminfo
[12:31] <Gangrel> indus the thing is that i cannot get the mounts to be read and write
[12:31] <asdff> I am running Karmic and have a strange error. Whenever I use backspace to go back a file in Thunar it makes a heinous beeping sound. When I press backspace in an empty text entry field I get the beep. If I alt-tab I get the beep. I have tried some solutions on the Ubuntu forums to remove a module allegedly causing it, as well as blacklisting it, however this has not done anything. Any ideas?
[12:31] <indus> Gangrel, aah yes
[12:31] <asdff> Oh wait alt-tab doesn't beep anymore nvm.
[12:33] <indus> Gangrel, did you use the term 'defaults' ? in fstab
[12:34] <indus> Gangrel, which partitions?all ?
[12:34] <cosmodad> I had to remove and re-insert my sound card module and now changing volume level via the mixer app doesn't affect the real volume anymore (however, adjusting "master" or "pcm" in the volume control details still works). How can I fix this?
[12:34] <indus> Gangrel, aah yes the ntfs ones probably
[12:34] <Gangrel> indus they are all vfat
[12:34] <Gangrel> indus let me remount them
[12:34] <indus> Gangrel, no they are not from what i read yesterday in sudo fdisk -l
[12:35] <Gangrel> indus lets get it from the start
[12:35] <indus> Gangrel, kkk\
[12:35] <mobius2> I have one of the original Samsung Blackjack cell phones,  I seem to remember once setting it to  "mass storage" mode and being able to  retreive my photo's and such  via the USB cable. When I tried to  do the same thing again today,  no dice,  all I got was a virtual cdrom  in /dev  that lead to nothing  does anyone have the detail which I am  overlooking ?
[12:35] <asdff> I am running Karmic and have a strange error. Whenever I use backspace to go back a file in Thunar it makes a heinous beeping sound. When I press backspace in an empty text entry field I get the beep. I have tried some solutions on the Ubuntu forums to remove a module allegedly causing it, as well as blacklisting it, however this has not done anything. Any ideas?
[12:36] <Gangrel> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/373185/
[12:36] <mobius2> asdff,  you have tried changing the actual sound file responsible for that broken  dog bark?
[12:36] <indus> asdff, go to system>prefs>sound> system sounds and untick it
[12:36] <asdff> indus: I have done that.
[12:36] <asdff> indus: Still beeping.
[12:37] <LaireTM> hello i create a new user an get no this error when i use passwd: Authentication information cannot be recovered
[12:37] <asdff> mobius2: er, could you elaborate :)?
[12:37] <indus> asdff, alert volume mute it
[12:37] <indus> asdff, for ubuntu 9.10 i mean
[12:38] <asdff> I have
[12:38] <asdff> it is set to mute
[12:38] <indus> Gangrel, sdb1 and sdc1 are ntfs
[12:38] <indus> asdff, i need a screensht
[12:38] <Gangrel> indus, but i reformated them on fat
[12:38] <kimv> hello can any 1 tell me how to fix a broken pipe in evolution mail
[12:38] <asdff> indus: Do you know how to take a screenie in xfce? :S
[12:38] <indus> Gangrel, it says ntfs then its ntfs
[12:38] <indus> asdff, press the print scren button on keyboard
[12:39] <asdff> indus: doesn't seem to work on xfce
[12:39] <indus> asdff, or applications> accessories>screenshot
[12:39] <Gangrel> indus, ok lead me once again please
[12:39] <indus> kimv, hi
[12:39] <kimv> hi
[12:39] <indus> kimv, which version of ubuntu
[12:40] <KE1HA> LaireTM, how did you create the user?
[12:40] <indus> Gangrel, any idea whats on sdb1 and sdc1
[12:40] <asdff> indus: sending a .png your way. I told you I muted it lol. I also selected no sounds.
[12:41] <indus> kimv, check your send mail preferences, smtp
[12:41] <Gangrel> indus, i can erase sdc1 if this is what you mean
[12:41] <LaireTM> KE1HA: useradd
[12:41] <KE1HA> as sudo ?
[12:41] <indus> Gangrel, erase? why
[12:41] <kimv> 9.10 karmic koalar
[12:41] <indus> Gangrel, dont
[12:41] <Gangrel> indus, i mean format it
[12:41] <indus> kimv, select protocol smtp
[12:41] <indus> Gangrel, so which partition do u want to mount auto?
[12:42] <Gangrel> both of them
[12:42] <Gangrel> !imagebin
[12:42] <KE1HA> Ive had some trouble with useradd on 9.10 .. adduser has been working well though. Also, did you set the pw or were you trying to set the pw when you get the error?
[12:42] <indus> Gangrel, i dont see any fat
[12:42] <indus> Gangrel, just give me that paste agin
[12:43] <Gangrel> indus, check this for a sec http://imagebin.org/84182 paste coming right up
[12:43] <Gangrel> indus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/373185/
[12:44] <asdff> indus: hey sorry didn't know you were meant to use imagebin, here: http://imagebin.org/84183
[12:44] <LaireTM> KE1HA: as root
[12:45] <indus> asdff, doesnt look muted is ticked properly
[12:45] <asdff> indus: -_- it is
[12:45] <asdff> indus: want an imagebin of the alternative?
[12:45] <indus> asdff, no
[12:45] <secret> how can I set up an external microphone on ubuntu and shut the onboard pc mike down ?
[12:45] <indus> asdff, iam satisfied :)
[12:45] <indus> asdff, strange really
[12:46] <indus> asdff, is this beep from pc speaker? or regular
[12:46] <asdff> indus: it's really annoying also, whenever someone uses a highlighted word in xchat it makes the sound :'(. Regular.
[12:46] <indus> asdff,
[12:46] <indus> asdff,
[12:46] <indus> :D
[12:46] <FloodBot2> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:46] <asdff> indus: lolol :(
[12:46] <KE1HA> rr ... try adding the user as such:  adduser --/home/[username] --shell /bin/bash [username]
[12:46] <asdff> indus: this is the first time I have ever had this problem, after like a month of nix
[12:46] <indus> asdff, is it the pc speaker?
[12:47] <asdff> indus: Nah it is coming through my stereo via analog out
[12:47] <KE1HA> that creates all the defaults / home's for ya and sets things properly. It will as you a few things as well, like PW name etc.
[12:47] <asdff> indus: what's that cmd line thing where you can mute channels?
[12:47] <indus> asdff, ok seems like a bug maybe, it should mute
[12:47] <asdff> indus: alcamixer?
[12:47] <indus> asdff, alsamixer
[12:47] <SwedeMike> secret: my laptop does that automatically.
[12:47] <KE1HA> dont forget to put sudo or root in front ot adduser
[12:48] <KE1HA> opps in front of adduser
[12:48] <indus> Gangrel, hi
[12:48] <asdff> WOO
[12:48] <SwedeMike> secret: also, if you have multiple sound sources you can configure that thru the sound settings in administration
[12:48] <Gangrel> indus, hey
[12:48] <indus> Gangrel, so what is the problem exactly
[12:48] <indus> Gangrel, i see that sda2 is unformatted
[12:48] <Akkernight> Why don't all of my kernels show up in GRUB at boot?
[12:48] <asdff> indus: I muted 'front' in alsamixer. It was muted before but I recently had a problem with pulseaudio and messed around with the settings. Thanks for your time lol ^_^
[12:48] <indus> asdff, dont you need sound?
[12:49] <indus> asdff, aah front ok, master is on i hope
[12:49] <asdff> indus: ;).. I hope so too actually brb lol
[12:49] <asdff> indus: OH MOFO
[12:50] <xguru> indus, no go on the sound issue....guess i'll file a bug?
[12:50] <indus> Gangrel, <your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[12:50] <indus> xguru, yeah
[12:50] <xguru> indus, thanks a bunch :)
[12:50] <asdff> xguru, indus: should I try restarting first? I have been doing some weird stuff with my settings lately to get pulseaudio to work
[12:50] <indus> Gangrel, if its fat 32 then use vfat
[12:50] <indus> xguru, ok
[12:50] <indus> xguru, worked?
[12:50] <xguru> indus, nope
[12:50] <indus> xguru, oh diff problem yours
[12:51] <indus> xguru, it should work , did you change permissions
[12:51] <Gangrel> indus, i use that in fstab right?
[12:51] <cool> kde /part
[12:51] <indus> asdff, always restart
[12:51] <indus> Gangrel, yes
[12:51] <kaushal> hi
[12:51] <kaushal> i have a issue about Maximum Capacity: 4 GB while running dmidecode,but the actual memory is 8GB on san box. please suggest ?
[12:51] <indus> Gangrel, try ntfs , then reboot and see
[12:51] <asdff> indus: kk lol this is driving me crazy, it drowns out music so badly, brb
[12:51] <xguru> indus, i did... 666 like it said, but i thought 777 was read/write?
[12:52] <indus> xguru, yes use 755
[12:52] <indus> xguru, no need of 777
[12:52] <indus> xguru, always restart
[12:52] <xguru> indus, ok...i'll try that and restart
[12:52] <Gangrel> indus, <you partition> = /dev/sdc1 or just sdc1?
[12:52] <kimv> indus i am using sendmail
[12:52] <indus> Gangrel, use the uuid
[12:53] <jackhigh> hi is there anything i can use in ubuntu to create a virtual hdd with i dont want an os on it i just want to be able to mount it and format it with a different filesystem
[12:53] <indus> Gangrel,  #/dev/sdb1  and in next line uuid  /media/mountpoint ntfs-3g etc
[12:53] <secret> swedemike, I have sound comping through my headset but no mike ?
[12:54] <secret> how can I test my mike ?
[12:54] <IsUp> hello
[12:54] <aman_josan2001> any one can help about enabling Monitor Mode in the Wireless Card for Kismet
[12:54] <IsUp> whats the difference between "apt-get install" and manually ./configure?
[12:54] <indus> Gangrel, <uuid> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[12:54] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[12:54] <Johnny1> I need to load blackra1n.exe to boot up my tethered device, whenever I load it with wine, It says that blackra1n.exe has crashed, Please help me!
[12:54] <wejick> can i speed up grub load time?
[12:54] <IsUp> i am going to install apache, php and mysql. should i use apt-get or should i ./configure myself?
[12:54] <indus> Gangrel, you can manually mount the partitions from places iam sure, see what file type it is
[12:55] <Gangrel> indus, rebooting one min
[12:55] <indus> Gangrel, maybe it is vfat
[12:55] <wejick> how speed up grub load time?
[12:55] <itsmegb> IsUp: apt-get installs the precompiled packages that are build for ubuntu, the ./configure is part of the process to build the packages yourself
[12:55] <gayprinte> hihi
[12:55] <asdff> indus: it's still beeping, I'd really like to nip this in the bug
[12:55] <gayprinte> german?
[12:55] <asdff> bud*
[12:55] <IP-v6> hi ! is "dpkg --list" only showing installed packages ?
[12:55] <indus> asdff, hmm
[12:56] <gayprinte> german?????
[12:56] <indus> asdff, restart
[12:56] <aman_josan2001>  help enabling Monitor Mode in the Wireless Card for Kismet???
[12:56] <itsmegb> gayprinte: !de
[12:56] <IsUp> itsmegb: is there any way to define a prefix with apt-get? for example, apache is installing /usr/local/apache default, i want to install it under /srv/apache
[12:56] <asdff> indus: I just did. Strangely enough it was unmuted when I logged back in!
[12:56] <gayprinte> hi
[12:56] <gayprinte> was geht ab du schwuli?
[12:56] <KE1HA> jackhigh, just use the LiveCD and gparted to ctreate your partition. should be simple enough.
[12:56] <indus> asdff, what was unmuted
[12:56] <hyperstream> aman_josan2001, aircrack?
[12:56] <itsmegb> !de | gayprinte
[12:56] <asdff> indus: the system beep.
[12:56] <indus> asdff, so thats the issue
[12:56] <asdff> indus: in prefer->sound
[12:57] <asdff> indus: it doesn't seem to remember nor acknowledge me when I click 'mute' :(
[12:57] <aman_josan2001> no using KISMET
[12:57] <itsmegb> IsUp: i'm afraid i dont know
[12:57] <indus> asdff, it wont remember settings which sounds like a permission issue
[12:57] <asdff> indus: I could turn on save session couldn't I?
[12:57] <indus> asdff, which file did you change permission
[12:57] <hyperstream> aman_josan2001, /join #kismet
[12:57] <asdff> indus: what?
[12:57] <aman_josan2001> okay thanks alot.............
[12:57] <indus> asdff, yes click on 'remember
[12:57] <jackhigh> KE1HA, i dont want a real partition i want a virtual one
[12:58] <indus> asdff, try all thing
[12:58] <om26er> asdff, you might be facing this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/77010
[12:58] <asdff> indus: this seemed to help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126746
[12:58] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone else have problems with 64 bit flash?  I got it installed but I cannot watch videos because it literally eats my CPU alive.
[12:58] <dummer> hey motherfucker
[12:58] <indus> FeasibilityStudy, its same for 32 bt also
[12:58] <asdff> indus, om26er: yeah that link worked :D:D:D
[12:58] <indus> asdff, wht link
[12:58] <asdff> indus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=126746
[12:59] <om26er> !op | dummer
[12:59] <FeasibilityStudy> indus: wtf is causing it?
[12:59] <asdff> indus: should I add those 2 lines to my startup applications? Pretty lame that I have to ;/
[12:59] <FeasibilityStudy> I just reinstalled last night and did NOT have this problem before the reinstall
[12:59] <indus> FeasibilityStudy, cant say, flash sucks so cant solve it
[13:00] <indus> FeasibilityStudy, stick to flash 9 if you still have it
[13:00] <KE1HA> jackhigh,  "virtual"  hmm.. not too sure about that one, have to do a bit of research, but nothing I know off hand would do it.
[13:00] <indus> asdff, what did you do to get it work
[13:00] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[13:00] <asdff> indus: the commands on that link xset b off; xset b 0 0 0
[13:01] <indus> good, really stupid this thing
[13:01] <asdff> lol yah
[13:01] <aman_josan2001> hi
[13:01] <om26er> !hi | aman_josan2001
[13:02] <aman_josan2001> any help reg sbackup?
[13:02] <hyperstream> !help | aman_josan2001
[13:02] <asdff> indus: that thread explains in inputrc in /etc/ you can uncomment a line which sets the bell to none
[13:02] <indus> ok
[13:03] <IP-v6> ikonia, what client do you use for irc ? i have a xchat question.
[13:03]  * indus goes for a smoke
[13:03] <FeasibilityStudy> theres got to be some way to fix flash.  Maybe I have an outdated version?  Does anyone know where to get the *latest* 64 bit?
[13:03] <ikonia> IP-v6: I don't use xchat, but you may find #xchat helpful
[13:03] <aman_josan2001> thnx.. i want to intergrate sbackup eith ubuntu-one
[13:03] <IP-v6> thanx
[13:03] <xguru> indus, I tried "sudo chmod 755 /var/lib/alsa/asound.state", set volume, "alsactl store", "sudo gedit /etc/rc.local" and added "alsactl restore"....this didn't work.  I had to do everything listed, but instead of adding the line to the rc.local i had to add it to startup applications and everything now works
[13:03] <KE1HA> ikonia, what are you using ?
[13:04] <ikonia> KE1HA: does it matter ?
[13:04] <xguru> indus, the help has been greatly appreciated!!!!
[13:04] <KE1HA> just curious
[13:04] <ikonia> KE1HA: irssi
[13:05] <aman_josan2001> is it possible to upload the backup file directly to ubuntu one
[13:05] <KE1HA> rr... im using xchat and was just looking for alternatives.
[13:05] <aman_josan2001> there is a problem with permissions
[13:05] <asdff> KE1HA: have you tested IRRSI or whatever it is called
[13:05] <hyperstream> !permissions | aman_josan2001
[13:05] <asdff> KE1HA: command line IRC sounds appealing
[13:05] <dos000__> how do you export arabic text from a pdf ?
[13:06] <KE1HA> yeah, I like command-line things allot better.
[13:06] <xen> hey i tried installing nvidia's latest drivers on my system.... through the hardware manager i gt it done easily.... but tats an older version... so i visited the nvidia website n gt the latest drivers.... nw its in .run format.... i installed it using the terminal... but i get an error something like this... "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before
[13:06] <xen>          installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING
[13:06] <xen>          THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver
[13:06] <xen>          download page at www.nvidia.com.
[13:06] <xen> "
[13:06] <FloodBot2> xen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> I use weechat for my Command line IRC needs.
[13:06] <KE1HA> but no, I've not tested irssi but thinking im going too.
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> xen:  close down X. run the installer like it says..
[13:07] <tyrosine> QUESTION>> I want to generate an image of a spectrogram/waterfall display (frequency vs. time) of a 10 second WAV file.  What's an easy way to do this? I tried a python/matplotlib/FFT method but it wouldn't show above 8khz.  I want to get to as high of a frequency as I can with my sound card.  Any advice?
[13:07] <wejick> xen, sudo telinit 1
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> xen:  easier to just do 'sudo service gdm stop'
[13:07] <xen> plzz elaborate
[13:08] <dos000__> i did pdftotext to convert a pdf to text but the actual arabic text is apearing as junk. the pdf has arabic and english
[13:08] <dos000__> the english  text is fine
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> xen:  CLOSE X, go to the console.. thts what its saying, You cant have X running if you are going to install the drivers
[13:08] <Dr_Willis> guess he tryed sudo service gdm stop :P
[13:09] <KE1HA> Dr_Willis, looks like it. Also, the latest NV drivers are not all that stable at the moment.
[13:09] <KE1HA> had all sorts of issues with my GTX-280, all drivers problems.
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> KE1HA:  i just use the repo ones.. but i imagine he would still want to try them
[13:10] <IP-v6> #xchat is sleeping. Zzzz : )
[13:10] <zilkomaa> Can someone tell me why my audio scratches with vlc media player ?
[13:10] <Dr_Willis> KE1HA:  i need to get a new nvidia card.. someday
[13:11] <sancho1112> Here can help to make modern languages in MediaWiki?
[13:11] <zilkomaa> With rhythmbox no problem at all..?
[13:11] <KE1HA> yeah, I've got a bunch of them, abt 12 in total.
[13:12] <anonymous_> can anybody tell me how to see   IP address of PC ?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> anonymous_:  ifconfig command
[13:12] <KE1HA> ifconfig
[13:12] <KE1HA> or ipconfig on WinDoze
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> anonymous_:  theres other tools if you want to see it on the desktop or in a applet and so forth
[13:12] <anonymous_> ifconfig or ipconfig
[13:13] <sancho1112> Please, help.... Show where the way of that how to make additional languages for WikiMedia is described. I use the translator for a writing of messages.
[13:13] <anonymous_> besides screenlet??
[13:13] <sancho1112> Help =\
[13:14] <anonymous_> cant i see using CUI?
[13:14] <KE1HA> Translation Info Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations
[13:15] <KE1HA> anonymous_, ifconfig in a Linux terminal will show the IP's addy's.
[13:16] <xguru> anonymous_,   conky can display a lot of information ip and activity but its a pain to setup
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> anonymous_:  thers DOZENS of monitoring tools and ways to have it show up on the desktop
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> anonymous_:  the default conky config might even do it. im not sure
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Most every 'system monitor' tool out there can show the ip.
[13:17] <kaki> hiii alll
[13:17] <KE1HA> Yeah, there's lots of Network tool GUI's.
[13:17] <asdfff> KE1HA: hm trying IRSSI now. Seems all right. Xchat was so pretty though :3
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  check out the latest weechat versions also. has a lot  of features not in irssi
[13:18] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: Is weechat also a cli irc client?
[13:18] <KE1HA> yeah, will do on the next box I build. I have to rebuild a server this week, will stick it on there.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> !info weechat
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  Yes
[13:19] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: :O 1kb, instealled size 56kb! l33t!
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  the one in the repos is old however.. version 0.3.3.1 just cam eout
[13:19] <kaki> hii Dr willis
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  thats a metapackage
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> !info ubuntu-desktop
[13:19] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: So you recommend grabbing the source from the site or something?
[13:19] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: oh wow lol.
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  yes. I just compiled the latest from source.
[13:20] <sancho1112> How to make a few languages in the wiki?
[13:20] <sancho1112> Make a well in Wikipedia.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  since the older version is in teh repos. its easy to pullin all the dependencies to compile it
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> sancho1112:  im not sure anyone knows whta you mean.
[13:20] <deena> Hi
[13:20] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: Are there any particular features which are blatantly > irssi?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  'smart' filtering of part/join/quits.. for one.
[13:21] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: hm I will go do some reading haha ;)
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  it can auto install/download/update scripts from the weechat homepage also
[13:21] <deena> i want to play TrueCombat: Elite in ubuntu... where i can download for ubuntu
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> deena:  thats a linux game? check the linux game tome web site
[13:21] <kimv> indus thank you
[13:22] <sancho1112> Êàê â Âèêèïåäèè, ìíîãî ÿçûêîâ â ëåâîé êîëîíêå.
[13:22] <KE1HA> the meta data is wrong though, it's 9,455kb after install :-)
[13:22] <sancho1112> As in Wikipedia, a lot of languages in the left column.
[13:22] <phimic> hi all
[13:22] <KE1HA> well, from a bas 9.10 install that is.
[13:23] <phimic> is there anyone who uses ufw with ulogd?
[13:24] <Pici> sancho1112: Is this question about Ubuntu or Wikipedia?
[13:24] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: their website indicates that the latest is 0.3.1.1?
[13:24] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: also it looks really cool haha :3
[13:24] <sancho1112> As in Wikipedia, a lot of languages in the left column.
[13:24] <sancho1112> For example: http: \ \ de.mysite.ru, http: \ \ en.mysite.ru
[13:25] <sancho1112> The question sounds of WikiMedia
[13:25] <Pici> sancho1112: Perhaps this question is better for #mediawiki
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  yep. it is the kind of irc client you read the docs for .
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> asdfff:  not too hard to compile either
[13:26] <anonymous_> thnk you so much
[13:26] <asdfff> Dr_Willis: kk ima give it a whirl
[13:26] <anonymous_> i did it
[13:26] <KE1HA> did what ?
[13:27] <himanshu_> can i use int86 under gcc ?
[13:27] <sancho1112> Please form a correct question, which would have to ask it in another chat. And then I use a translator. I'm Russian.
[13:27] <ASSASSIN> ciao
[13:28] <Pici> sancho1112: Have you tried asking in #ubuntu-ru
[13:28] <Pici> !ru | sancho1112
[13:28] <jackhigh> is it possible for me to plug my pc into another device and to make the pc emulate a usb hard drive
[13:29] <sancho1112> No, I have not tried, and how to get there?
[13:29] <Pici> sancho1112: type: /join #ubuntu-ru
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> jackhigh:  never seen that done befor
[13:30] <KE1HA> jackhigh, what is it your trying to do with the virtual device ?
[13:30] <sancho1112> There is one man ...
[13:31] <sancho1112> =(
[13:31] <Guest67514> hey guys
[13:31] <Pici> sancho1112: there are 84 people there.
[13:32] <sancho1112> Here # ubuntu-ru there is no one there waiting for help is useless.
[13:32] <ignacio> eres u goordoo
[13:32] <Gangrel> indus, the last one could not let me boot
[13:33] <kubanc> is there any possibility to see when i install xubuntu 9.04 why it stops at starting the instalation program?
[13:33] <indus> Gangrel, hi
[13:33] <indus> Gangrel, what do you mean
[13:33] <indus> Gangrel, did you get to a bios screen
[13:33] <indus> Gangrel, i mean grub
[13:33] <cruge> morning
[13:34] <Lord-Readman> in launchpad translations how often does the "Overall Statistics:" figures update?
[13:34] <Lord-Readman> as they are not live
[13:34] <KE1HA> kubanc, as in debug the instaler script ?
[13:34] <Gangrel> indus, yeah it said something about cannot mount the device
[13:34] <ASSASSIN> ciao
[13:34] <lantjie> hey guys
[13:34] <Gangrel> indus, then i got grub screen
[13:34] <indus> Gangrel, ok forget the uuid , just use the device name
[13:34] <indus> Gangrel, then try with vfat
[13:34] <indus> Gangrel, maybe it is vfat
[13:35] <prodigel> hi all. My /media folder is missing. I don't know how it got deleted, but I want it remade. Is there a special way to create it, or just mkdir ?
[13:35] <cruge> I am having some issues getting 9.10 installed on my new hw
[13:35] <indus> prodigel, mkdir with a sudo before it
[13:35] <kubanc> KE1HA, yes i would like to do something like that, but the problem is, that a cannot do anything right now, except restart the computer. DO you know what I am talking about. where it hangs?
[13:35] <lantjie> cruge: what issues?
[13:36] <prodigel> indus, will this affect automounting and other stuff that /media is used for?
[13:36] <indus> prodigel, no
[13:36] <KE1HA> Do you see the Grub loader flash or the Debian version show up at all ?
[13:36] <cruge> got intel q8200, xfx 750i mb, and evga 160
[13:36] <KE1HA> it's only there for a split second or so.
[13:36] <indus> prodigel, unless there are directories mentioned in fstab which is not ther eunder /media
[13:36] <indus> prodigel, so create them too
[13:37] <axz> Could comeone help me with installing VPN connection?
[13:37] <cruge> when I try to install using the txt, live cd methods it looks like it is having issues with the mb trying to install
[13:37] <Spanglish_7776> axz, what's going on?
[13:37] <cruge> takes about 45min to get to the install setup and 10-15 for each option
[13:38] <axz> Spanglish_7776, well cant connect to my VPN ptpp tunnel
[13:38] <axz> getting errors
[13:38] <Spanglish_7776> which client are you using?
[13:38] <prodigel> indus, ok, thanks
[13:39] <axz> Spanglish_7776, sec i show you pastebin
[13:39] <lantjie> cruge: yes it can be installed, because  of a friend of mine did man
[13:39] <lantjie> let me get a look at it for you
[13:39] <axz> Spanglish_7776, http://pastebin.com/mf631b8e
[13:39] <axz> Spanglish_7776, default Ubuntu client (network manager)
[13:39] <cruge> lantjie I would love to get ubuntu on here, right now I have to run win7
[13:40] <himanshu_> can somebody tell me , any official irc adress for C and C++ programming?
[13:40] <lantjie> cruge: oke do you know how to begin?
[13:40] <cruge> oh yeah
[13:40] <indus> himanshu_, #c
[13:41] <lantjie> cruge: oke is there a error you get
[13:41] <lantjie> ?
[13:41] <cruge> only problem is I will have to shift systems and do some work to prep the system
[13:41] <mengu> hi. how can i add karmic's packages to jaunty's synaptic?
[13:41] <axz> Spanglish_7776, dunno what to do i did few tweaks nothing really helped
[13:41] <cruge> well it spools errors when it is inutializing to the install gui
[13:41] <kubanc> are there any keybord shortcuts to see what is the computer doing when starting Xubuntu without installing?
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> pptp tunnel right axz
[13:42] <lantjie> cruge: oke do you want to dual boot?
[13:42] <axz> Spanglish_7776, yes sir
[13:42] <Spanglish_7776> have you connected to the server before, it's working properly otherwise?
[13:42] <cruge> as well as the txt vers
[13:43] <axz> Spanglish_7776, no this is 2th provider so its my side
[13:43] <cruge> lantjie dual would be nice since I have to have billy ware for work
[13:43] <lantjie> cruge: oke first install ubuntu 9.10 if you don't get any error
[13:44] <axz> what does this mean SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0, iface: ppp0): no ifupdown configuration found.
[13:44] <ASSASSIN> ciao
[13:44] <axz> because iḿ really lost
[13:44] <gigasoft> how to log in  as a root?
[13:44] <Spanglish_7776> 1 sec axz.
[13:44] <axz> oke
[13:44] <iceroot> gigasoft: sudo -i
[13:45] <lantjie> cruge : you have to install windows first and then ubuntu
[13:45] <lantjie> cruge : if you want to dual boot
[13:45] <Pici> !sudo | gigasoft
[13:45] <cruge> lantjieI already have 7 installed.  but before I was trying to do 9.10 only and couldn't get anywhere
[13:46] <lantjie> cruge: and you have partition your hard drive.
[13:46] <gigasoft> ok , thanks
[13:46] <Spanglish_7776> axz, what version of ubuntu?
[13:46] <axz> 9.10
[13:46] <lantjie> cruge: 1 partition for windows and the other for ubuntu
[13:46] <KE1HA> kubanc, Do you see the Grub loader flash or the Debian version show up at all ?
[13:46] <cruge> lantjie understand but couldn't get to partition part of the install
[13:47] <Lord-Readman> in launchpad translations how often does the "Overall Statistics:" figures update?
[13:47] <mengu> how do i remove a resource from synaptic within the command line?
[13:47] <cruge> I had tried both the x86 and 64bit same issues
[13:47] <Pici> Lord-Readman: Probably best to ask that in #launchpad
[13:47] <Spanglish_7776> ok. 1 sec
[13:48] <lantjie> cruge: you have a few options when you are install ubuntu: 1 install side by side, 2 use entire disk, 3 manual partition
[13:48] <KE1HA> mengu, remove a package or source-distribution point
[13:49] <lantjie> cruge: select the first one: install side by side
[13:49] <kubanc> KE1HA, no I only see XUBUNTU logo and the square moving to right and left. this is at the begining of the installation, after you select if you wanna try xubuntu without changing the computer or if you would like to install xubuntu
[13:49] <cruge> I got 3Tb space so should be able to do one drive for just 9.10
[13:49] <mengu> KE1HA: i think i have added wrong uri for the karmic package (i'm using jaunty) so it cannot parse that one
[13:50] <cruge> lantjie
[13:50] <cruge> lantjie will do
[13:50] <cruge> lantjie brb have to shift irc to another sys
[13:50] <mengu> alright i've changed sources.list
[13:51] <KE1HA> kubanc, ok, when grub boots, there's a 3/4 second delay, hit "Escape" then "e" on the Kernel line to turn off the splash and quiet. The you can see where it's hanging.
[13:52] <KE1HA> that will give us more to go on.
[13:52] <obiwan_> guys i'm having a hard time understanding the following at man rsync. http://pastebin.com/f56ed30e9 what i don't get is about resolution times
[13:52] <lantjie> cruge:oke
[13:53] <Spanglish_7776> axz, did you install the pptp-linux package?
[13:54] <axz> Spanglish_7776, i think i did let me check
[13:54] <Spanglish_7776> ok
[13:54] <kubanc> KE1HA, if i do ESC then "e" it only shows a small amount of text, than it goes again into quiet splash mode...
[13:54] <axz> Spanglish_7776, yeps > pptp-linux is already the newest version.
[13:54] <KE1HA> you can rsync byt time stamp or content. the time value is a threshold before considering the file needs to be changed / updated.
[13:55] <KE1HA> ooops sri abt that.
[13:55] <axz> Its bugging me wtf this means SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/virtual/net/ppp0, iface: ppp0): no ifupdown configuration found.
[13:55] <Estrella> hello
[13:55] <KE1HA> kubanc, so your not making it though the kernel boot process at all then?
[13:55] <Spanglish_7776> axz, ok  just wanted to make sure.  Tried this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
[13:55] <Estrella> yes
[13:56] <lantjie> cruge: are you there?
[13:56] <Estrella> yes
[13:56] <Estrella> bay bay
[13:56] <hazeyez> spanglish i got the vbox working
[13:56] <hazeyez> the guest additions
[13:57] <axz> Spanglish_7776, let me retry one sec
[13:57] <Spanglish_7776> great hazeyes
[13:57] <kubanc> KE1HA, when i confirm "try xubuntu without installing to computer", there is a delay, and then i press ESC and e, but this only gives me so little information, then it goes back onto the quiet splash mode. With your question  so your not making it though the kernel boot process at all then?, What are your trying to say?
[13:57] <Spanglish_7776> I forgot your name when I got home. I was like, what was their name again..
[13:57] <Spanglish_7776> what fixed it?
[13:58] <KE1HA> kubanc, sri I was trying to do this from memory, follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot
[13:59] <cruge> lantjie Im back, though going to take a while got to move some Gb to make room
[13:59] <en> where can i get 10.04 ?
[13:59] <DJones> !lucid | en
[14:00] <en> DJones: thanks
[14:00] <obiwan_> please could anybody explain me this about resolution time at fat32? http://pastebin.com/f56ed30e9
[14:00] <obiwan_> it's just 4 lineas but i don't understand
[14:01] <axz> Spanglish_7776, http://pastebin.com/d637233df
[14:01] <cruge> lantjie I was told that there was some issues with the Nvidia 750 chipsets
[14:01] <axz> Spanglish_7776, i tried the url you gave me..
[14:01] <Amanda98> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:02] <Amanda98> ellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[14:03] <sipior> obiwan_: rsync treats two timestamps as being "simultaneous" if they differ by less than modify-window. So "13:45:27" and "13:45:28" would be considered the same by rsync if the window was at least one second.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[14:03] <axz> Spanglish_7776, i get this error at end nm-pptp-service-18621 fatal[open_callmgr:pptp.c:479]: Call manager exited with error 256
[14:04] <khem_> can anybody give me advice on how i can map ctrl (25) + 3B to left tag and ctrl (25) + 3C to right tag aswell as ctrl (25) + 33 to pipe with  xmodmap?
[14:04]  * cmege is away: Occupé
[14:05] <obiwan_> yeah sipior but why would fat32 have a different time than ext3? that's explained there , it's got something to do with resolving times, but i don't get it
[14:05] <Pici> !away > cmege
[14:07] <sipior> obiwan_: it is the way it is because that's how fat32 was designed. clocks always have an error, and fat32 simply asserts that the timestamps are accurate to within two seconds.
[14:08] <Spanglish_7776> axz, brb
[14:08] <obiwan_> sipior: i don't understand that
[14:08] <axz> sure
[14:08] <sipior> obiwan_: well, which part?
[14:08] <obiwan_> sipior: what's about fat32 asserts that timestamps are accurate to withing two seconds?
[14:08] <ubuntu> hi there, i downloaded xubuntu to install to my system, half way though install it failed, after formating my harddrive,   it loads up live to test the os out,
[14:09] <obiwan_> sipior: does it mean that whenever a fat32 fs changes a modifiaction time it adds 2 seconds?
[14:09] <ubuntu> but i cant even install it in the live os with out it having error due to faulty disk
[14:09] <ubuntu> not sure what to do from here, im pretty stuck
[14:09] <ubuntu> i only now have a live os.
[14:09] <Myrtti> ubuntu: ubuntu systems are fairly good in detecting faulty disks in comparison to, say, xp. could it be that you indeed have a faulty disk?
[14:10] <otak> obiwan:no it remembers to the nearest 2 seconds
[14:10] <kubanc> KE1HA, it stops saying IO APIC resources could not be allocated. and the next line is loading, please wait...
[14:11] <DrMrHorse> karmic tells me my disk is broken as well, but lucid does not
[14:11] <ubuntu> Myrtti,  possibaly, but i now need to try get some kind of installation running with out the cd' like some kinda online installation? or some how download image to my harddrive then run it like a deamon tools?
[14:11] <ubuntu> is any of that possible
[14:11] <DrMrHorse> so being that little else works for me on karmic, im not paying attention to the warning
[14:11] <ubuntu> since the cd is installable from in the os.
[14:11] <raullll> kkshhghx
[14:11] <raullll> xnnbhysxnbvbs
[14:11] <raullll> xhsduhsbbdbstghfs
[14:11] <huguito99> hola
[14:11] <kubanc> KE1HA, now it says out of memory, so it looks like i need to put more RAM into the motherboard
[14:12] <raullll> raulillo_1999@hotmail.com
[14:12] <Pici> raullll: Please stop that.
[14:12] <sipior> obiwan_: no, it means that the timestamp is within two seconds of the actual modification time.
[14:12] <obiwan_> otak: i still don't get it :(
[14:12] <huguito99> Olaa!!
[14:12] <KE1HA> kubanc, ok, with the same process disable ( remove ) APIC as well as the nosplash and quiet.
[14:12] <raullll> yes
[14:12] <huguito99> rau
[14:12] <obiwan_> otak: what do you mean with it remembers to the nearsetd 2 secs
[14:12] <huguito99> rubio
[14:12] <raullll> becht
[14:12] <huguito99> del eqipo
[14:12] <sipior> obiwan_: in other words, the times shown are reliable to within 2 seconds.
[14:12] <huguito99> olaaaaaaaaaaaa
[14:13] <huguito99> alguien es español¿?
[14:13] <Pici> !es | huguito99
[14:13] <KE1HA> kubanc, there's another guy that just posted Issues on Kub as well, there may be a script issue.
[14:13] <obiwan_> sipior: :? :(( i still don't understand. taht means that it may add up to 2 seconds to the real timestamp ?
[14:13] <obiwan_> ok sipior that's what my last message says right?
[14:13] <sipior> obiwan_: or be 2 seconds behind, yes.
[14:13] <obiwan_> ok right
[14:14] <bullgard> ~/.bashrc includes a line: "export DEBEMAIL='foo@bar'." What program wrote this line into this file?
[14:14] <KE1HA> kubanc, do you have a standard Ubuntu ISO you could try so we can eliminate the Xububtu as a possible cause?
[14:14] <obiwan_> sipior: and why man rsync says setting a --modify-window=1  sec solves this? it's supposed to be 2 seconds, if they differ 1 seconds they are still different by 1 sec
[14:14] <ubuntu> i have the image extracted on a pen drive but its not bootable, is there a way to start the installation in the live system via the pen?
[14:15] <obiwan_> sipior: or does ext* filesystems have at least 1 sec difference timestamp?
[14:15] <kubanc> KE1HA, does it matter which version?
[14:15] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  clarify wht you did exactly to get the stuff on the pen
[14:15] <KE1HA> No, jsut want to verify it's not a HW issue.,
[14:16] <ubuntu> downloaded the iso, then in some extracting software i told it to extract the files to the pen drive
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  what extracting software?
[14:16] <otak> ubuntu:AFAIK the pen is written to during use so it can only be used once.
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  you dont just copy files from an iso file to the pendrive and expect it to work. Use a tool like Unetbootin
[14:17] <ubuntu> ouch, i screwed that up then
[14:17] <Kerio> hello
[14:17] <Kerio> i have some issues with my custom kernel on 9.10
[14:18] <ubuntu> Dr_Willis,  is there a way i can run installation some how off the net? or even download another copy and burn it while live? using 2 dvd drives, one to keep the live running and one to burn
[14:18] <KE1HA> ubuntu, try this :-) http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[14:18] <ubuntu> and a harddrive or pen drive to save on?
[14:18] <Kerio> earlier with grub1 i had not problem editing it and booting on to custom kernel
[14:18] <ubuntu> thanks KE1HA
[14:18] <kali1> hello everybody
[14:18] <Kerio> but now i only get mount: Mounting /dev/root on /root failed: no such device
[14:18] <Kerio> mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory
[14:18] <Kerio> mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: no such file or directory
[14:18] <Kerio> mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: no such file or directory
[14:18] <Kerio> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[14:18] <FloodBot2> Kerio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <kali1> i have installed ubuntu9.10
[14:19] <sipior> obiwan_: see here, for example: http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200801/rsync_on_windows_disk_to_disk.html.
[14:19] <kali1> but it has resolution problem
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  ive used the live cd to make a bootable usb flash drife. it has a tool in the menus to do that
[14:19] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu:  or donload the iso file and use unetbootin on windows
[14:19] <sipior> obiwan_: or this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=886048.
[14:19] <kali1> i am unable to get resolution greater than 800x600
[14:19] <Kerio> i edited grub 2 with the excellent guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:19] <Kerio> i also made an entry of the old default linux kernel included in 9.10
[14:19] <kali1> but in windows it is greater
[14:19] <Kerio> i can boot on to that one no problem
[14:19] <kubanc> KE1HA, ok, it stops saying Out of memory: kill process 997 (localedef) source 248 or a child. next line is killed process 997(localedef)
[14:19] <kali1> i am new to linux
[14:20] <kali1> what to do?
[14:20] <ubuntu> i clicked make usb startup disk?
[14:20] <Kerio> so i think i have edited the grub file correctly
[14:20] <ubuntu> its trying to make one, but... off the cd thats faulty
[14:20] <otak> ubuntu: Just rewrite it. Use System-Administration-USB etc
[14:20] <kali1> anybody knows answer
[14:20] <Kerio> kali1: about what=
[14:20] <Kerio> what do you wanna do?
[14:20] <KE1HA> kubanc, well that's good, and bad I suppose. means the LiveCD's are doing what there supposed too, but ya got a HW issue.
[14:21] <kubanc> HW issue, what kind of a sort?
[14:21] <KE1HA> kubanc, how much RAM is on the system ?
[14:21] <kali1> Kerio: i want to get higher resolution
[14:21] <Kerio> checked drivers?
[14:21] <kali1> Kerio: yes
[14:21] <Kerio> any propritary
[14:21] <Kerio> ?
[14:21] <kali1> Kerio: no
[14:22] <Kerio> what kind of card do u have?
[14:22] <zilkomaa> Has anyone idea how to save in firefox about:config settings?
[14:22] <kubanc> KE1HA, Hm, a added aditional 128 MB of RAM, but it only says 65 MB. I am already working on it
[14:22] <Kerio> gfx card
[14:22] <kali1> Kerio: i have a laptop
[14:22] <ubuntu> if the cd is faulty, would the startup disk definetly be faulty as well, also, how does the startup disk work, does it just point the pc to the cd again after or does it download nessisery files to do the installtion?
[14:22] <kali1> Kerio: i am new to linux
[14:22] <kali1> Kerio: sis
[14:22] <Kerio> test different resolutions with hz
[14:22] <t3hp00ky> Can I change my resolution in tty?
[14:22] <KE1HA> kubanc, there's your problem mate.
[14:23] <kali1> Kerio: only 60 hz availale
[14:23] <Kerio> mkay
[14:23] <KE1HA> kubanc, I need to check, but I think you need at least 128MB of RAM min. but Im not 100% on that.
[14:23] <kali1> Kerio: i do not understand pls
[14:23] <otak> ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[14:24] <kubanc> KE1HA, it looks like 1 slot on motherboard for RAM module is dead
[14:24] <scunizi> kali1: not sure if this will fix or work.. but in synaptic package manager there is an "openchrome" driver for the SiS.. see if it is intalled.
[14:24] <jrib> !tty | t3hp00ky, check out uvesafb too, but see
[14:24] <KE1HA> Install From a USB and Too a USB are two very diffrent things.
[14:24] <nibbler>   i have a text (xml) file with an illegal character on position 2234222 - how can i find out which character that is, like vi with :15 jumping to line 15, but for  total character count?
[14:25] <KE1HA> kubanc, rrr .. well at least we know what the problem is, and now you can work on that part first.
[14:25] <jrib> nibbler: try #vim?
[14:25] <sakho360> salut
[14:25] <nibbler> mhm k thanks jrib
[14:25] <t3hp00ky> whats a good terminal browser?
[14:25] <obiwan_> sipior: i understood all but i still got one question
[14:25] <kubanc> KE1HA, i already put 128 MB of ram into the working module, so lets see what is next
[14:25] <kali1> scunizi: i do not find open chrome
[14:26] <KE1HA> kubanc, you could try moving the DIMMS to diffrent slots, or reseating the modules, sometimes the channels or module seats aren't the best.
[14:26] <nibbler> >.( they need me to have regged ick :(
[14:26] <obiwan_> sipior: if differing time may be up to 2 seconds, why does man rsync recommend to set modify timestamp granularity to 1 sec? it should be 2 to ensure
[14:26] <t3hp00ky> I'm kind of stuck in my tty :o
[14:26] <KE1HA> kubanc, also check the MB manual to see how it says to configure the RAM on a per slot basis.
[14:26] <kali1> scunizi: yes these are installed
[14:26] <scunizi> k
[14:27] <kali1> scunizi: there was a spell mistake
[14:27] <scunizi> kali1: xrandr controls resolution
[14:27] <scunizi> !xrandr | kalil
[14:27] <kali1> scunizi: i am new to linux
[14:27] <mengu> when i copy paste a theme to /usr/share/themes why it won't show up in the appearance?
[14:27] <scunizi> kali1: read the link
[14:27] <sipior> obiwan_: perhaps they define resolution so that a two second error means "1 second in either direction". either convention is reasonable, i suppose.
[14:28] <gioelez> hi all, which driver should I install for the joypad? (I tried with xserver-xorg-input-joystick and joy2key but joy2kay say: Error opening /dev/js0!) (PS: i need restart X?) thanks all
[14:28] <t3hp00ky> Does ubuntu server come with a terminal web browser?
[14:28] <Pici> t3hp00ky: Yes, w3m
[14:28] <kylehong> hi
[14:28] <t3hp00ky> Pici: thanks
[14:28] <gioelez> (karmic 64)
[14:29] <obiwan_> oh sipior that's so clever thanks dude
[14:29] <scunizi> t3hp00ky: there's others to choose from too.. elink2, lynx, etc
[14:29] <kubanc> KE1HA, the MB is very old, it only has 2 slots, so there is nothing to configure here. BUT i can tell you, that it was the problem in RAM. i put it 128 MB and now IT IS WORKING. so KE1HA thank you. i will try to install XUBUNTU, if i will be able to :D
[14:30] <KE1HA> kubanc, just checked the Xubuntu site, you need 192MB of RAM.
[14:30] <KE1HA> ooops 192MB
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> reccomended. :)
[14:30] <scunizi> kubanc: try DSL linux.. "damn small linux"
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> tiny core linux = 10mb for the base install
[14:30] <KE1HA> kubanc, 192 to run from LiveCD, 128 ro run from HD install.
[14:31] <KE1HA> .. 128MB to run from HD.
[14:31] <kubanc> scunizi, yes, i agree, but i cannot find any tutorial on how to install DSL
[14:32] <kali1> scunizi: i do not understand
[14:32] <scunizi> kubanc: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-hd-install.html
[14:32] <scunizi> !resolution | kubanc
[14:32] <scunizi> kubanc: sorry.. wrong nick
[14:33] <scunizi> kali1: see the link above
[14:33] <jrib> nibbler: no they don't
[14:33] <KE1HA> Yeah, there's smaller but this is Ubuntu.
[14:33] <pog> anybody knows whether curlftpfs doesn't allow special chars @$ in the ftp password?  (I can log in via mozilla or filezilla).
[14:34] <KE1HA> kubanc, there's minimal UB installs as well. ya don't get much by way of functionality on any of them though.
[14:34] <saftsack> hey, noload= does not work on my ubuntu 8.10 bootcd. is this a normal behaviour?
[14:34] <kubanc> KE1HA, as i expected, the installation got stoped at http://seogadget.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/welcome1.gif
[14:35] <KE1HA> You could run the Xubuntu Alternative Install CD, it requires 64MB at install.
[14:35] <powergoal> Currently running Gnome as my WM, thinking about giving KDE a try.  Do i just get kubuntu-desktop through aptitude?  or is there something else I need to do ?
[14:35] <pog> by the way I tested xubuntu with 256MB ram under qemu, and it runs rather nicely.
[14:35] <scunizi> saftsack: by the time you figure an answer 8.10 will be "end of life".. EoL is coming up soon.. might consider a newer release.
[14:35] <iceroot> pog: thats all
[14:35] <zinox> there is any howto to help me install this video card >> ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE] in ubuntu 10.04 ??
[14:35] <iceroot> powergoal: thats all
[14:35] <jrib> powergoal: that's it.  Then just choose kde at the login screen
[14:36] <iceroot> pog: sorry wrong nick
[14:36] <powergoal> jrib:  iceroot thanks :)
[14:36] <saftsack> scunizi, it's just for testing a raid controller. have no blank cd here ;). just want to know if noload works
[14:36] <alaktar> Hey I have an issue with ubuntu 9.10 on a dell inspiron 1545.
[14:36] <kubanc> scunizi, can you please tell me what files to donwload for DSL linux? or where from?
[14:36] <alaktar> Can someone help me?
[14:36] <Myrtti> !lucid | zinox
[14:36] <pog> I'm still wondering about curlftpfs login with special chars $ and @ in ftppassword.
[14:36] <h2o0> hi
[14:36] <iceroot> !ask | alaktar
[14:36] <KE1HA> kubanc, and once the server is installed, use the command line apt-get to install whatever else ya need  / want, but stay away from Gnome and KDE, you'll crash.
[14:37] <alaktar> oK, excuse me then.
[14:37] <scunizi> kubanc: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-hd-install.html
[14:37] <iceroot> alaktar: np
[14:37] <scunizi> kubanc: that's their site.. look around.. or google dsl download
[14:37] <h2o0> I've a Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM, which version of Ubuntu can be better? Ubuntu 32-bit, Ubuntu 32-bit with PAE or Ubuntu 64-bit?
[14:37] <alaktar> Well I have a pppoe connection, went to the terminal typed sudo pppoeconf, did all the things, password and username...and it keeps disconnecting me from the internet.
[14:37] <jrib> h2o0: 64
[14:37] <iceroot> h2o0: amd64 with 4gb ram
[14:38] <h2o0> what about 32-bit with PAE ?
[14:38] <jrib> h2o0: why would you?
[14:38] <iceroot> h2o0: only 1.8gb ram for a prozess, also there is no PAE by default in ubuntu
[14:38] <kubanc> scunizi, from here http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/damnsmalllinux/current/ , i download dsl-4.4.10-syslinux.iso ?
[14:38] <KE1HA> h2o0, any would be good, C2D's I think are 64-Bit, but ya need to verify.
[14:38] <h2o0> I've kernel compiled with PAE actually
[14:38] <faheem_> hello my problem is that im using a laptop without an optical drive and my usb refuses to read now.. it has the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/251781 i read this and found a solution but i cant exactly implement it since im a newbie anyone willing to help (PS the soluition seems to be from comment #34)
[14:38] <h2o0>  2.6.31-19-generic-pae
[14:39] <jrib> h2o0: you compiled it?
[14:39] <scunizi> kubanc: you're on your own here.. I don't run DSL.. it was only a suggestion
[14:39] <iceroot> h2o0: pae can only handle 1.8GB ram for a prozess
[14:39] <kubanc> scunizi, OK...
[14:39] <pog> are known problems with amd64-Shuttles and suspend mode? I installed a ubuntu 9.10 in 32 Bit mode and suspend doesnt work, does nothing.
[14:39] <alaktar> I think it's about the MTU but I don't know what should I do..
[14:39] <h2o0> no, I make a new install on 32 bits with 4GB, and ubuntu compiles this kernel with pae
[14:39] <faheem_> hello my problem is that im using a laptop without an optical drive and my usb refuses to read now.. it has the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/251781 i read this and found a solution but i cant exactly implement it since im a newbie anyone willing to help (PS the soluition seems to be from comment #34)
[14:39] <t3hp00ky> I'm running Ubuntu server, can I change the tty resolution?
[14:40] <iceroot> h2o0: ubuntu is not compiling kernels by his own
[14:40] <h2o0> but I read some problems on 64-bit, less compatibility in programs than 32-bit
[14:40] <pog> faheem_: I installed once a xubuntu via quemu and installation disk.
[14:40] <pog> or rather the downloaded iso.
[14:40] <iceroot> h2o0: only non-open-source programs can be a problem, like flash
[14:40] <faheem_> pog, what does that have to do with my post?
[14:40] <sipior> h2o0: try both out, see what works best for you. i imagine you'll be fine with a 32-bit setup.
[14:40] <faheem_> pog, should i use xububtu?
[14:40] <iceroot> h2o0: what about trying amd64 with a live-cd and see it by yourselv
[14:41] <faheem_> hello my problem is that im using a laptop without an optical drive and my usb refuses to read now.. it has the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/251781 i read this and found a solution but i cant exactly implement it since im a newbie anyone willing to help (PS the soluition seems to be from comment #34)
[14:41] <h2o0> I tried 64 bit, and I installed flash with little trick, but I don't know If can be a problem with other programs
[14:42] <jrib> h2o0: there's really no reason to avoid 64bit anymore... hasn't been for a while
[14:42] <KE1HA> t3hp00ky, you can change it in Grub .. vga=792 for example.
[14:42] <h2o0> ok
[14:42] <iceroot> h2o0: its working fine for me with java, flash, vbox and other cloused-source stuff
[14:42] <pog> faheem_: I thought you might like to boot someting for a optical drive.
[14:42] <karlheg> I haven't used 32 bit in years.
[14:42] <faheem_> pog, i want my usb back :((((
[14:42] <pog> o.k. faheem_
[14:43] <h2o0> ok, thx for your opinions
[14:43] <Trinity33> i need help with pyrit cuda does anyone know the right channel where i could ask question about pyrit?
[14:43] <zinox> how i do to show grub menu in ubuntu 9.10?? it show only if i install windows xp system
[14:43] <semitones> sup Ubuntu
[14:43] <KE1HA> t3hp00ky, there's also an app called hwinfo I think, you can use tat and mess with --frambuffers to adjust to what you want.
[14:44] <otak> faheem: What system do you use?
[14:44] <DrMrHorse> zinox: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/show-the-grub-menu-by-default-on-ubuntu/
[14:44] <zinox> thanks
[14:44] <semitones>  ok, non hypothetical situation: I need to crop and resize a picture to use as a profile picture in Buzz -- what program do I use that comes installed by default on Lucid?
[14:44] <DrMrHorse> np
[14:44] <jrib> !lucid | semitones
[14:44] <TimothyA> how do I change the language on Ubuntu Server?
[14:44] <iceroot> semitones: #ubuntu+1
[14:44] <TimothyA> the jackass installed french instead of english :|
[14:45] <jrib> TimothyA: I *think* it's enough to install the language pack you want and then update /etc/environment
[14:45] <sipior> semitones: gimp should manage just fine for that :-)
[14:45] <Spanglish_7776> axz, sorry,
[14:45] <semitones> I'm not using Lucid now, I just want to know that when the time comes, what should I use
[14:45] <semitones> sipior, yes, but gimp won't be installed by default
[14:45] <iceroot> sipior: gimp is not in lucid by default
[14:45] <jrib> semitones: ask in #ubuntu+1....
[14:46] <semitones> jrib, gotcha
[14:46] <sipior> iceroot: that's unfortunate.
[14:46] <pog> zinox: I installed under xubuntu 9.10, and grub2 generated every entrys from all the disks inclusive usb and memorystick :-) I guess grub-update does it.
[14:46] <Younder> I have a dozen people connected to my machine on ports 4000-60000 with names likecyperpunc.eu (netstat --tcp --udp). Set uft enable and it seemes  cleared no. Bad?
[14:46] <TimothyA> .....wtf :|
[14:46] <otak> semitones:gthumb is easier to use.
[14:46]  * TimothyA kicks the VPS
[14:46] <TimothyA> this thing is the slowest I've ever seen in that datacenter
[14:47] <axos88> Hi! How can I install thunderbird 3 on ubuntu 9.10? I found no .deb packages, and If at all possible i'd like to stick with dpkg
[14:47] <KE1HA> lol .. probably only get on CPU ;-)
[14:47] <zinox> pog  update-grub2 ?
[14:48] <pog> zinox: I will look on the 9.10 machine.
[14:48] <TimothyA> recommendation: ovh.<any countrycode> is awesome, EXCEPT ovh.be
[14:48] <TimothyA> slow service, crappy service, got billed twice while we didn't even get the server yet, did i mention slow service?
[14:48] <TimothyA> and we got the WRONG server
[14:49] <KE1HA> TimeRider, I think what you want is reconfigure-locals running as sudo
[14:49] <bullgard> ~/.bashrc includes a line: "export DEBEMAIL='foo@bar'." What program wrote this line into this file?
[14:49] <olivier_> EUH HOER
[14:49] <KE1HA> ooops Sri TimothyA ... ..
[14:49] <olivier_> KANKERHOER
[14:49] <FloodBot2> olivier_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <sipior> TimothyA: wrong channel?
[14:49] <olivier_> No?
[14:49] <TimothyA> hm?
[14:49] <olivier_> KANKERSNOL
[14:49] <olivier_> bb
[14:49] <shishirdwivedi20> HEY I AM NEW ON UBUNTU . IS THERE ANY WAY TO LEARN COMMAND IN UBUNTU?
[14:49] <TimothyA> ovh is on the list of recommended servers that provide ubuntu :|
[14:50] <TimothyA> I'm just saying that ovh.be is the worst out of the bunch
[14:50] <mawst> oh man
[14:50] <axos88> Hi! How can I install thunderbird 3 on ubuntu 9.10, 64bit? I found no .deb packages, and If at all possible i'd like to stick with dpkg
[14:50] <jrib> !cli | shishirdwivedi20
[14:50] <scunizi> shishirdwivedi20: YES BUT YOU have to stop yelling
[14:50] <jrib> TimothyA: try to keep the discussion related to support here
[14:50] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:50] <TimothyA> then where is the ubuntu chat channel?
[14:50] <Omar87> Hi all
[14:50] <jrib> !ot | TimothyA
[14:51] <t3hp00ky> !
[14:51] <Omar87> How do I upgrade to the latest version of my kernel?
[14:51] <axz> Guys could someone help me with VPN issue http://pastebin.com/d5ba00e01
[14:51] <Younder> shinao1, get Beginning ubuntu linux froma bookstore or amazon
[14:51] <shishirdwivedi20> tell  me ubottu
[14:51] <axz> i really need some help to solve it
[14:51] <shishirdwivedi20> HEY I AM NEW ON UBUNTU . IS THERE ANY WAY TO LEARN COMMAND IN UBUNTU?
[14:52] <shinao1> ? why would i want that?
[14:52] <KE1HA> time for the channel boss to kick a few I tink :-)
[14:52] <semitones> !shout
[14:52] <Younder> shishirdwivedi20, , get Beginning ubuntu linux froma bookstore or amazon
[14:52] <pog> zinox: probably update-grub2 (there are both modules in /usr/sbin ) und xubuntu 9.10
[14:52] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[14:52] <axos88> !shout
[14:53] <zinox> hmmm
[14:53] <pog> I thought it might be an alias.
[14:53] <semitones> shishirdwivedi20, see the link ubottu sent you above for a starting place :)
[14:53] <Dr_Willis>  SkiDawg  thers plenty of shell tutorial sites on the interz netz
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> oops wrong nick. :)
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> silly nick completion as they quit....
[14:54] <Omar87> How do I upgrade my kernel?
[14:54] <joshua__> my desktop dissipated
[14:54] <KE1HA> Omar87, sudp apt-get
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> Omar87:  if theres new versions avail the package manager will upgrade them
[14:55] <KE1HA> oops.. sri sudo apt-get
[14:55] <pog> zinox: I looked at the scripts  IMO it does the same.
[14:55] <semitones> why would you upgrade the kernel though?
[14:55] <semitones> i mean, ahead of schedule
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> The kernel has updates about every 4 weeks or so it seems. bug fix's and so forth.
[14:55] <zinox> i just need press shift key to show boot menu hehe
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> but those are minor updates/patches mainly from what ive been seeing
[14:56] <joshua__> can someone help me get my desktop back?
[14:56] <Omar87> KE1HA, Dr_Willis: I know that, but I'm talking about the latest major security alert.
[14:56] <Spanglish_7776> anyone here fiddle with usbip?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Omar87:  i imagine there will be a fixed kernel anytime theres a security issue.
[14:56] <zinox> brb
[14:56] <KE1HA> rr.. well best practice if you dont want to do normal dist updates, is to custom complie it for your particular machine.
[14:56] <Omar87> Dr_Willis: So, there's currently no issues?
[14:57] <zilkomaa> Does anyone have a answer to scratchy audio play in ubuntu 9.10?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> Omar87:  no idea. I noticed some kernel update yesterday I think.. but i only update/upgrade about every 2 weeks
[14:57] <axos88> zilkomaa, try killall pulseaudio
[14:57] <KE1HA> Omar87, and the 'best" source of info on Kernels is kernel.org
[14:57] <joshua__> all my folders and icons are gone
[14:58] <david27> hola
[14:59] <KE1HA> you can however, use Ubuntu's Kernel Compile Docs to keep it within the UB package structure.
[14:59] <Spanglish_7776> nobody? USBIP? heard of it even?
[14:59] <david27> hola hay algien
[14:59] <david27> e
[14:59] <david27> e acura
[14:59] <textchimp> hey, does anyone know if multiple bluetooth connections can be shared on the same hardware in Ubuntu?
[15:00] <iceroot> Spanglish_7776: you have a ubuntu releteated support-question we can help you with?
[15:00] <pog> is there an interactive mode in curlftpfs? (I don't see in man). because curlftpfs doesn't seem to forward correctly user=user:p@sswor$ with these special chars.
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> textchimp:  ive seen bluetoothe keyboard/mice used befor. (never owned one) so it might be possible
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> textchimp:  unless those things count as 1 device. :)
[15:00] <iceroot> pog: p\@asswor\$
[15:00] <iceroot> pog: i would use
[15:01] <pog> iceroot: I try again, may be there was another mistake too.
[15:01] <Spanglish_7776> iceroot - I'm trying to install USBIP on hardy, but am not sure if that qualifies
[15:01] <Dr_Willis> No idea what USBIP even is
[15:02] <Spanglish_7776> I hhad just wondered if anyone has fiddled with it
[15:02] <david27> e
[15:02] <david27> hollo
[15:02] <KE1HA> textchimp, I use a pair media box, keyboard and mouse, bluetooth, but I it's using one tx/rx key for both. It's a Fisby.
[15:02] <Spanglish_7776> Dr_Willis, enables you to share usb devices over an IP network
[15:02] <david27> veis porno put@
[15:02] <nuno_nunes> hi
[15:02] <KE1HA> ... pair on my media box ..
[15:03] <semitones> !usbip
[15:03] <semitones> huh, I thought ubottu is supposed to give package info
[15:03] <jrib> !info usbip | semitones
[15:03] <semitones> Spanglish_7776, ^
[15:03] <Spanglish_7776> yep
[15:04] <TimothyA> k, I changed /etc/environment after installing the english language pack, and rebooted
[15:04] <systix> How do you get telnet to listen on a specified port?
[15:04] <TimothyA> however, the cli is still in french :|
[15:04] <Spanglish_7776> but I need to install it on hardy
[15:04] <zilkomaa> axos88: Seems the problem was too high audio output in sound prefences..using 33% now and now it plays flawless
[15:04] <Spanglish_7776> ;)
[15:04] <semitones> hmm
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> !info usbip hardy
[15:04] <KE1HA> TimothyA,  use dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:04] <david27> puta kieres follar
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> sounds like a job for the source...
[15:04] <TimothyA> KE1HA; i did
[15:04] <semitones> hmmmm
[15:04] <Spanglish_7776> yep
[15:04] <TimothyA> it took 20 minutes to run
[15:04] <david27> e di
[15:04] <david27> put
[15:05] <jrib> TimothyA: pastebin « env »
[15:05] <TimothyA> env?
[15:05] <Spanglish_7776> both of which I  knew, but it doesn't seem like anyone here has ventured there. ;)
[15:05] <KE1HA> well, install localepurge and get ride of them all.
[15:05] <TimothyA> LANG=en_US
[15:05] <TimothyA> that's the only line besides PATH
[15:06] <KE1HA> them all meaing, the ones you dont want.
[15:06] <TimothyA> localepurge doesn't help...it's in french
[15:06] <KE1HA> is this a Virtual Server ?
[15:06] <TimothyA> and I don't speak french
[15:06] <TimothyA> unfortunately
[15:06] <TimothyA> I told them to install an *english* distro
[15:06] <KE1HA> with WHM / cPanel and all that ?
[15:07] <TimothyA> and then they had us wait 2 months
[15:07] <TimothyA> no
[15:07] <TimothyA> just SSH
[15:07] <TimothyA> nothing else
[15:07] <FloodBot2> TimothyA: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <KE1HA> rr. that should have changed it.
[15:07] <powergoal> I just installed kubuntu-desktop ( i think ) but i think what I have running now is the kubuntu netbook version.  Is there a way to tell and how do i get to a normal desktop version?
[15:07] <Dr_Willis> LANG=en_US localepurge   - dosent go to english eh?
[15:07] <pog> there is a parm in curlftpfs user=user:password  when debugging in tryes to log in with anonymous...
[15:07] <TimothyA> I don't know wether I set the parameters correctly for localepurge...since it's in french
[15:08] <TimothyA> you have to select the one you want to keep, right?
[15:08] <KE1HA> localepurge is a package that lets you pick what language packages you want.
[15:08] <KE1HA> and gets rid of the rest.
[15:08] <Dr_Willis> export LANG=whatever    then run the command.. perhaps
[15:08] <pog> so I will try with .netrc (after googling what this is for a file).
[15:08] <TimothyA> hey, that did work
[15:09] <TimothyA> now I wonder why `export` did work and rebooting the machine didn't
[15:09] <KE1HA> it's a tty script that you run once, it configures, then any pkg after that , it only installs the ones you want.
[15:09]  * TimothyA wonders why his load average is 53.53
[15:09] <textchimp> KE1HA: that's all part of one bluetooth connection, or several?
[15:09] <jrib> TimothyA: nice
[15:09] <Dr_Willis> export sets it.. apraently its not gettting set right on boot
[15:09] <TimothyA> the server is doing absolutely nothing :|
[15:09] <maveas> I'm not able to connect my headset to my laptop.. been having that problem since ubuntu 7.*
[15:10] <KE1HA> textchimp, just one key on the box, and it controls both the mouse and keyboard.
[15:10] <drandrei> hy all
[15:11] <Lint01> can I install modern software versions into Ubuntu 8.04?
[15:11] <TimothyA> perl is complaining about locale now...
[15:11] <erUSUL> !backports > Lint01
[15:11] <erUSUL> !ppa > Lint01
[15:12] <KE1HA> textchimp, im not promoting brands or anything, but Fisby was the only one I could find that guaranteed to work with Linux
[15:12] <TimothyA> screw you perl
[15:12] <saftsack> hey, my cd burner destroys all my recordable medias. here is the errormsg: http://nopaste.info/3040599922.html
[15:12] <jrib> TimothyA: did you try setting LANG to "en_US.UTF-8"
[15:12] <KE1HA> TimothyA, ps -ef | grep perl then killall uuid's :-)
[15:13] <joshua__> Brasero is horrible, try gnome back saftsack
[15:13] <Lint01> i don't get it, you mean I must do backport _by myself_?
[15:13] <erUSUL> Lint01: no; you can enable the backports repositorie
[15:13] <saftsack> joshua__, same issues here. it seems that the backend destroys my cd's
[15:13] <erUSUL> Lint01: you didn't get the ubottu private messages ?
[15:13] <saftsack> tried root user, raw, tao and so on
[15:13] <joshua__> saftsack, are you sure it is not the drive?
[15:14] <Lint01> i did
[15:14] <pog> wow the loggin of curlftpfs via .netrc worked (with spec chars @$ in passwd), so I'm happy
[15:14] <saftsack> joshua__, no i am not sure. it's a new drive so i don't know if it is broken, BUT Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 seems for a communication error
[15:16] <olskolirc> what is the command I use to see all of my system specs ie: cpu, mother board etc please?
[15:16] <J> ubuntu question
[15:16] <joshua__> saftsack, take a look here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cdrkit/+bug/432929
[15:16] <J> its about the xrandr command
[15:17] <J> could someone please help me :-P
[15:17] <Lint01> ok I'm looking to hardy-backports repo and don't see there not gnome nor ooo nor any remotely useful soft for me, what's wrong?
[15:17] <saftsack> joshua__, i will try cdrtools and then i will tell you,
[15:18] <joshua__> ok
[15:18] <OerHeks> olskolirc sudo lshw
[15:18] <jrib> Lint01: if latest software versions are a priority for you, then you should be using the latest stable release of ubuntu, not one almost 2 years old :)
[15:18] <KE1HA> olskolirc, also look in /proc for additional info /cpuinfo memory etc etc
[15:18] <axz> Guys how to add ppp0 to interface?
[15:19] <Lint01> jrib: I would gladly use it but 8.04 is the last OS which support my videocard
[15:19] <jrib> Lint01: what card?
[15:19] <J> my screen is 720x400 and the on board video is not recognized
[15:19] <olskolirc> oh i wanted to see it in stdout I had that command before
[15:19] <olskolirc> lshw isn't it
[15:20] <Avenegra> hello, is there a cli command to manage services (in the way B.U.M does)?
[15:20] <KE1HA> olskolirc, what specifically you looking for?
[15:20] <J> how to i make the software show video at 768x1024 ....can't see the screen well unless in failsafe gnome
[15:20] <jrib> Avenegra: sysv-rc-conf
[15:20] <Lint01> jrib: radeon X1300
[15:21] <erUSUL> Avenegra: rcconf ?
[15:21] <erUSUL> olskolirc: sudo lshw -short
[15:22] <icho> hello world
[15:22] <J> anyone help me?
[15:22] <jrib> !helpme | J
[15:22] <vegombrei> is there a dj mixing software for ubuntu
[15:22] <vegombrei> ?
[15:22] <erUSUL> !info mixxx
[15:22] <Tw33k^> hello
[15:22] <J> so how DO i get help
[15:23] <Tw33k^> working in karmic for a live environment
[15:23] <J> saying please seemed like a good way to begin
[15:23] <KE1HA> axz, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/setting-up-dial-up-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[15:23] <Tw33k^> grub-mkconfig isn't included with karmic??
[15:23] <guillaume_> Hello, i'm testing IRC on Ubuntu, what is that channel pls^^
[15:23] <jrib> J: ask the actual question and wait patiently
[15:24] <iceroot> guillaume_: you are in #ubuntu
[15:24] <J> my video is screwed, i can only see video correctly is gnome safemode......hows that? :-P
[15:24] <guillaume_> Ok thanks iceroot
[15:24] <axz> KE1HA, comeon there is a way to get VPN working on damn Ubuntu?
[15:24] <jrib> J: detailed questions usually make it easier to help...
[15:24] <axz> i mean i been searching now for 4 days for solution
[15:24] <iceroot> jrib: always!!
[15:24] <guillaume_> I'm happy to see that IRC running correctly :P
[15:24] <icho> q
[15:25] <J> i want to force the video mode since the graphics its happy......720x400 is what the lcd screen tries to do
[15:25] <KE1HA> axz, yes, there is, but I'm not a VPN guru,but will have a look.
[15:25] <Spanglish_7776> axz, you have returned.
[15:25] <axz> KE1HA, i need to add ppp0 to my interface
[15:25] <J> need help, seems, with the command, xrandr.   this might solve it.  hope my details help.
[15:25] <axz> yes Spanglish_7776 still working on no results
[15:26] <KE1HA> axz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN
 axz: well, is there a configuration for ppp0 ?
[15:26] <Spanglish_7776> he's tried that KE1HA
[15:26] <axz> i need to add ppp0 to interface device
[15:26] <KE1HA> What's not working ?
[15:26] <Avenegra> jrib, erUSUL: thanks i'll try those packages and see
[15:26] <KE1HA> so you need Dialup VPN?
[15:27] <axz> but how i tried sudo route add -net 11.22.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev ppp0
[15:27] <axz> KE1HA,  no VPN pptp
[15:27] <Spanglish_7776> axz, how do you connect to the internet?
[15:27] <KE1HA> ahh ..k.
[15:27] <axz> Spanglish_7776, wired
[15:27] <axz> cable..
[15:27] <erUSUL> !pppoe
[15:27] <Spanglish_7776> !pptp
[15:28] <Spanglish_7776> hmm
[15:28] <J> emote
[15:28] <KE1HA> axz, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-configure-ubuntu-fedora-linux-pptp-client.html
[15:28] <saftsack> same errormsg here
[15:28] <saftsack> joshua__, slightly different errormsg but same behaviour
[15:28] <erUSUL> !info network-manager-pptp
[15:29] <axz> thanks KE1HA will try that
[15:29] <pepe> problem. I deleted the main pannel, and now i can't see the battery level, the volume control, and the WIFI connection
[15:29] <axz> guys this is major problem i mean pptp tunnel comeon
[15:29] <axz> this needs to be fixed :/
[15:29] <archboxman> How much are Ubuntu and Linux Mint different??????
[15:29] <erUSUL> !resetpanel | pepe
[15:30] <erUSUL> !ot | archboxman
[15:30] <archboxman> erUSUL: what did I just ask?????
[15:30] <KE1HA> lol .. no idea :-)
[15:30] <erUSUL> archboxman: something about mint
[15:30] <erUSUL> !mint | archboxman
[15:31] <J> seems my chance for help is not looking good
[15:31] <archboxman> erUSUL: are you a computer or human???
[15:31] <erUSUL> archboxman: droide
[15:31] <KE1HA> in tis realm, a bit of both I think.
[15:32] <knxville> Do anyone know how to fix this problem with Vbox: "install the visualbox-ose-source package"
[15:32] <KE1HA> in technical terms, a human is a computer.
[15:32] <sipior> archboxman: out of curiosity, in your work, are you paid by the question mark?
[15:32] <erUSUL> J: you have to give more details. what graphic card ? what driver? what have you tried?
[15:32] <knxville> Its the error message it pops up when I'm trying to load any virtual machine
[15:33] <Diaghilev> Anyone around?
[15:33] <J> ok....intel on board graphics.......intel corp 81810 cgc chipset graphics controller rev 3
[15:33] <jschrade> Was wondering if anyone knows how to install command line lame on ubuntu 9.10, it seems apt-get install lame will not work.
[15:33] <J> monitor is not recognized
[15:33] <Mula> Ola kien eres
[15:33] <bfremon1> hi
[15:33] <sipior> jschrade: what sort of error do you get when you try?
[15:33] <nibbler> !grub
[15:33] <Mula> in inglish
[15:34] <sanity> I'm trying to install readline and rlwrap in a user directory.  I've installed readline (using --prefix=$HOME) successfully, but the configure script for rlwrap fails complaining that I don't have the readline library.  I've added $USER/lib to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable, but to no avail.  Any suggestions?
[15:34] <J> xramdr only shows one mode........720x400
[15:34] <J> nothing else
[15:34] <sipior> jschrade: you prefixed the command with "sudo", right?
[15:34] <erUSUL> J: and the System>Preferences>dislay only gives uip to 800x600 ?
[15:34] <axz> Cannot find device "ppp0"
[15:34] <axz> *sigh*
[15:34] <Mula> vostropolokiene
[15:34] <bfremon1> I'm encountering problems to install ufw under debian, is anybody knows what is the right mailing list to use to report my problems ?
[15:34] <jschrade> Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:34] <J> doesnt give that mode......just 720x400...can't change on gui, that i can see
[15:35] <sipior> jschrade: have you done an apt-get update recently?
[15:35] <sipior> jschrade: also, see what "apt-cache search lame" returns for you.
[15:35] <jschrade> yep
[15:36] <jschrade> ok I will search
[15:36] <axos88> Hello! Is this the place to ask a wget related question? I have a CGI script that sends a file name (content-disposition: attachement; filename:xxx) along with the file contents. Is there a way to make wget use that filename to store the file as?
[15:36] <pepe> thankyou
[15:36] <erUSUL> J: can you paste output of this ? --> grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:36] <iceroot> axos88: man wget    -O
[15:36] <jschrade> nothing is in the restults for lame
[15:36] <erUSUL> !paste | J
[15:37] <gino> server irc.oltreirc.net
[15:37] <KE1HA> axz, i gotta pass on this one, i/ve not used VPN on linux, but I know folks that have.
[15:37] <jschrade> I must be missing a source
[15:37] <jrib> axos88: kinda, there is an option.  I found it once. :)  If you can't find it, poke me
[15:37] <Milos_SD> Hi
[15:37] <axz> KE1HA, yeah those folks would be very helpfull now
[15:37] <Milos_SD> why is main repo so slow? I get only 20 KB/s :(
[15:37] <sipior> jschrade: yes, that's almost certainly the problem
[15:37] <axos88> iceroot, that's not what I am looking for, I am looking for automatic naming
[15:37] <axz> i never had this much difficulty getting this working
[15:37] <axos88> jrib, ok, thx, I'll scan the man page
[15:38] <iceroot> axos88: ok
[15:38] <erUSUL> Milos_SD: use a mirror near you. System>Admin...>software sources can choose the best mirror automatically
[15:38] <jschrade> I will check and update
[15:38] <biagidp> Running 9.10, does anyone know where errors are logged from java applications?  I'm launching a java web start app and can't find the logs
[15:38] <J> ubottu a bot?
[15:38] <KE1HA> axz, here's another how-too: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-ubuntu.phtml
[15:38] <jschrade> thx for the info sipior
[15:38] <archboxman> axos88: what did you do to make your firefox boot faster????
[15:38] <sipior> jschrade: no trouble, good luck getting it sorted
[15:38] <erUSUL> biagidp: /var/log/syslog /var/log/daemon.log ?
[15:38] <axz> KE1HA, all i need get device ppp0 working and VPN should work
[15:39] <J> :-P
[15:39] <Milos_SD> erUSUL, I know that, but not all repos are up to date with main :)
[15:39] <axz> i;m asking in #linux but no responds
[15:39] <axz> how to add ppp0 into interface conf file working
[15:39] <axos88> jrib, *poke*
[15:40] <jrib> axos88: I said it the way I said it because when I first discovered it it wasn't in the man page, but at least now on my debian install it seems to be there as "--content-disposition".  Is that not the case for you?
[15:40] <archboxman> axos88: I looked into firefox profiles and found they save cache and cookies as well ....
[15:41] <biagidp> erUSUL: doesn't appear to be using either of those
[15:41] <axos88> jrib, haha, that works, thanks! not in the man page, although i am using an online man pages (linux.die.net).
[15:42] <erUSUL> axz: http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE
[15:42] <sarthor> Hi, My pppoe-server is according this url "  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291926  " and is working, but same username and passwords can connect from several computers, I to solve this problem. example, if username is "username" and password is "passwdd" So serveral clients can connect this  username from same time from several computers, My clients are on my lan, HELP,
[15:42] <jrib> axos88: use the one on your system :)  (there are some warnings)
[15:42] <J> my goal is to force the resolution to be a standard one, enough to get out of 'safe' mode and then to finally run updates
[15:42] <erUSUL> biagidp: grep -R -i appname /var/log/
[15:42] <jrib> axos88: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/en/man1/wget.1.html
[15:42] <KE1HA> axz, if it's any consultation, i could not get WEP working on 9.10 had to use WAP
[15:43] <KE1HA> so I feel your pain. Im at a loss on this one at the moment
[15:43] <axos88> jrib, thanks :)
[15:44] <Inquiry> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to install NDISwrapper on Ubuntu 9.10.  I've tried very hard to figure this out on my own.  I've gotten so far as to identify my needed Windows driver, download it, get NDISwrapper, unpack it, and now I am stumped, thanks to that blasted youtube video.  : )
[15:45] <danbhfive> Inquiry: did you run the ndis-something -i /your/windows_xp/driver.inf ?
[15:45] <erUSUL> Inquiry: why you need ndiswrapper?
[15:46] <KE1HA> Inquiry, use dpkg and install common, then utils and test with ndiswrapper -h os it returns it working.
[15:46] <Inquiry> danbhfive: That is certainly on my list of things to do, but I never got that far, because of errors I got while trying to use the "make" command on the extracted NDISwrapper folder.
[15:46] <Zober> hi all
[15:47] <KE1HA> you dont need to compile it, download the .deb pkg's
[15:47] <erUSUL> Inquiry: so no only are you using ndiwrapper you are compiling it from source ???
[15:47] <VIshnu> hi....
[15:47] <Zober> Does anyone here have experience with Flash Media Server?
[15:47] <erUSUL> !ndiswrapper
[15:47] <Zober> I cant seem to find a room more relevant :p
[15:47] <Inquiry> erUSUL: No, I'm not compiling it from source.
[15:47] <danbhfive> Inquiry: what others are saying
[15:47] <erUSUL> Inquiry: so why you need to "make" it ?
[15:47] <KE1HA> this if you have the .INF and .SYS files ya need, ndiswrapper -i and then modprobe ndiswrapper.
[15:48] <erUSUL> !find ndiswarpper
[15:48] <Lint01> ok so why exactly I cannot use modern software with OS from *2008*, just 2 years ago?
[15:48] <erUSUL> !find ndiswrapper
[15:48] <Inquiry> erUSUL: I don't know that I do.  I'm following the idiotic instructions from this stupid youtube video.  This guy is so proud of himself!  http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:GykpkRJ6Qj0J:www.linuxjournal.com/content/how-install-and-use-NDISwrapper-video+install+NDISwrapper&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[15:48] <sipior> Lint01: care to be more specific?
[15:48] <jrib> Inquiry: so use official documentation instead of random youtube videos
[15:48] <J> how to force and video mode in ubuntu when you video is an odd behavior and resolution and not readable
[15:48] <archboxman> Lint01: ?????
[15:49] <J> how to force an video mode in ubuntu when you video is an odd behavior and resolution and not readable
[15:49] <erUSUL> Inquiry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[15:49] <Inquiry> jrib: That's probably good advice, but I've been down that road before, so I was trying something else this time because of the hell I went through last time.  Maybe I just made things worse.
[15:49] <jrib> !fixres > J
[15:49] <Lint01> sipior,archboxman: I'm trying to get modern firefox, ooo, etc. into 8.04 and cannot find the easy way to do this
[15:49] <KE1HA> what NIC are you trying to use ndiswrapper with ?
[15:50] <archboxman> Lint01: thats a old version of ubuntu....\
[15:50] <Inquiry> Guess I'll go back to the official docs, then.  (sigh)
[15:50] <Lint01> 2008 is not old.
[15:50] <sipior> Lint01: both of the packages you mention have installers for linux. you can simply install them into /opt, /usr/local or the like, and use them happily.
[15:51] <arand> Lint01: Have a look at the mozilla-daily-ppa?
[15:52] <Lint01> ok and what with gnome & other desktop accessories? do they have ppas too?
[15:53] <Inquiry> (reading documents) My god.  Why is this stuff so freakin' complicated?
[15:53] <shane2peru> !offtopic
[15:53] <KE1HA> Inquiry, wnat NIC you using ?
[15:54] <KE1HA> oops what NIC
[15:54] <archboxman> Lint01: to think how far back 8.04 is and how much software has had updates wow...
[15:54] <drift> I have an nvidia video card and acer p191w monitor which supposedly has native res 1440 x 900.  However, this resolution doesn't show in Nvidia X server settings.  Any way to get the monitor running at 1440 x 900?
[15:54] <Inquiry> KE1HA: What's that matter?  Is that all you need to know to tell me how to get this working?  Somehow I doubt it.  So why even ask?
[15:55] <KE1HA> Nope, dont need to do anything, no need here at all.,
[15:55] <arand> Lint01: usually a quick search for "application ppa" will tell, but then again, the whole point of LTS is to have a stable, minimally-changing system.. Is later releases not an option?
[15:55] <Lint01> arand: no, they're not
[15:56] <Inquiry> ?
[15:56] <Lint01> so maybe it is possible to degrade kernel and xorg to their Hardy versions in modern distribution?
[15:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> drift I think I cheated and used envyNG
[15:56] <kbrosnan> Lint01: at least for firefox extracting mozilla.com 's linux tar.gz build should just work. assuming you are using a 32 bit kernel
[15:56] <archboxman> Lint01: to think I have a rolling release with archlinux and 9.10 is falling behind in package releases
[15:56] <J> !fixres
[15:57] <J> how to use fixres?
[15:57] <t3rm1n4l> hi
[15:57] <t3rm1n4l> in 9.10 record module for Xorg not working
[15:57] <Jack_Smirnoff> j go to the link provided for fixres
[15:57] <t3rm1n4l> please help
[15:57] <archboxman> time to compile
[15:58] <J> how to do that...i am new to that command or link
[15:58] <powergoal> Trying to locally compile katapult, but it fails during configuratino because it can't find the x includes, is this something that i need to fix with aptitude?  where do i get x includes?
[15:59] <Jack_Smirnoff> j  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution it is a web link.. use a browser
[15:59] <zilkomaa> Can i have two /home mounts in /etc/fstab like this is http://paste.ubuntu.com/373311/  it working? Just trying to add another ext4 partition there to get more storage space.
[15:59] <himanshu_> can sombody tell , why do one use vi editor , when there is such user friendly editors like gedit and notepad . every book says " vi is a very powerful " editor . why so ?
[15:59] <J> but its not in X but in Gnome
[16:01] <xen> :)
[16:01] <sipior> himanshu_: it has a steep learning curve which can be rewarding to navigate.
[16:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> zilkomaa dont make both home.. make one of them data or storage etc
[16:01] <t3rm1n4l> in 9.10 record module for Xorg not working
[16:01] <powergoal> himanshu_: one advantage in my opinion to vi is that it is controlled entirely by keyboard, never rquired to move your hands to the mouse.  if you become proficient with the commands you can save time. :)
[16:02] <edeca> powergoal: You do mean vim, of course? ;)
[16:02] <Lint01> Is it possible to degrade kernel and xorg to their Hardy versions in modern distribution?
[16:02] <powergoal> edeca: yes, sorry.. haa
[16:02] <kwork> powergoal, in what console text editor you use mouse ?
[16:02] <sponzor> sensors-detect didnt found enyting.. is there any howto to add them yourself?
[16:02] <powergoal> kwork: he wasn't talking about console text editors, was he?
[16:02] <edeca> Lint01: You wont want to, it would be dependency hell.  Just downgrade.
[16:02] <chetnick> powergoal: emacs as well.
[16:02] <edeca> sponzor: If you ran it as root and it didn't detect, you might find you don't have any compatible ones
[16:02] <powergoal> chetnick: yes. wasn't trying to start that war.
[16:03] <chetnick> powergoal: i like them, and use them both. I'm not religous. :-)
[16:03] <pixellace> Is this a proper channel for a Ubuntu server FTP/ user / group / permissions question?
[16:03] <sponzor> the motherboard is new etc.. is there no way to add them?
[16:03] <arand> Lint01: possible, maybe, but probably it would create more problems than it would solve, unfortunately..
[16:03] <edeca> pixellace: Just ask it
[16:03] <powergoal> chetnick: :)  ok  was just trying to defuse before it got too exciting about emacs & vim :)
[16:03] <edeca> sponzor: Googling for your motherboard and finding out the sensors might help
[16:03] <sponzor> ok
[16:04] <edeca> sponzor: Unfortunately some manufacturers rebrand or hide the sensors in funny places :)
[16:04] <sponzor> edeca: do you mybe know any howto do this.. i m on google for 2 ours now :P
[16:04] <pixellace> I have a user with FTP access using VSFTP and I want to give them permissions to a folder outside of their home directory- how do I do this? Also, will it show up as a folder they can access when logging into FTP?
[16:05] <Slart> pixellace: tried creating a symlink to the folder?
[16:05] <chetnick> pixellace: you might want to create a link in their home directory.
[16:05] <kreator> when can we expect TRIM to be implemented?
[16:05] <kaushal> hi
[16:05] <zilkomaa> Jack_Smirnoff: Ok, thank you for the info!
[16:06] <Slart> kreator: I read somewhere that it was implemented in kernel X.X.X.X... don't remember the numbers though
[16:06] <KE1HA> create a group or a wheel for the shared directory, and add the person to the group.
[16:06] <Gibby> When playing games, I get this every now and then AL lib: oss.c:173: Could not open /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy............I restart and it works, anyway to fix this without restarting?
[16:06] <blakkheim> Slart: lol
[16:06] <chetnick> Gibby: where do you get that error? that sounds like vmware.
[16:07] <Lint01> and one more question: how often are the package in universe updated?
[16:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> pixellace http://paste.ubuntu.com/373314/     on setting permissions
[16:07] <edeca> chetnick: Nah, that's old games with rubbish sound libraries ;)
[16:07] <edeca> Gibby: There is a program that wraps any calls to /dev/dsp into whatever sound engine you use (e.g. ALSA)
[16:07] <edeca> Gibby: But I forget the name..
[16:08] <helper> hey all! i want to delete "Password of my Private key of Digital signature" from Firefox ? where!! can't find it from options! thx
[16:08] <Slart> kreator: this is the best hit I got from google http://communities.intel.com/message/68630;jsessionid=06E39E88DE5BD0BC1DB75B49FC25263D.node5COMS
[16:08] <Gibby> hmmm, I had to install a new driver to make sound work on games for 64bit, and it worked good for a little while
[16:08] <kaushal> is there a way to find out how much max ram capacity using dmidecode ?
[16:08] <Gibby> Not VM ware
[16:08] <kaushal> I am running hardt
[16:08] <kaushal> hardy*
[16:08] <Gibby> I would like to play some games, however I can't restart since I am downloading a 13G file....
[16:09] <Slart> kreator: and since Karmic uses 2.6.31-19 it sounds like it should be working already.. not sure how to verify that though
[16:09] <chetnick> Gibby: you cant resume download?
[16:09] <pixellace> I've tried creating a symlink but it places it as a link to a file not as the directory I'm trying for
[16:09] <Gibby> chetnick, I don't want to risk it...
[16:09] <chetnick> ok.
[16:10] <kbrosnan> helper: do you mean the Firefox master password? http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Forgot+my+master+password
[16:10] <brontosaurusrex> in gnome/nautilus, is there a way to print multiple images with one click?
[16:10] <powergoal> pixellace: use groups and group permissions
[16:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> pixellace did you look at how to set those permissions on the link I gave?
[16:10] <joshua__> Gibby, what file is so big?
[16:11] <Gibby> Work laptop backups from my works servers
[16:11] <joshua__> Gibby, ahh... fun
[16:11] <helper> kbrosnan,  thx
[16:11] <kubanc> anybody know how to mount usb drive in DSL ?
[16:11] <joshua__> Gibby, what is the transfer rate for that?
[16:11] <KE1HA> pixellace, hmod g+rw gives a group rad / write permission, just add the users to a group and have the group own the directory.
[16:12] <Jack_Smirnoff> kubanc DSL would be the channel to ask that
[16:12] <Gibby> hmmm another wierd thing is, after every reboot now, I have to go to system/preferences/sound and unmute the audio, I no longer have a speaker icon on my bar up by the time and date....
[16:12] <kubanc> Jack_Smirnoff, DSL channel is for invite only
[16:12] <KE1HA> lets try that again .. chmod g+rw .. and read / write
[16:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> kubanc and Ubuntu channel would be for Ubuntu only
[16:13] <etsorbme8> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a8d5bf1
[16:13] <Slart> !register | kubanc
[16:13] <Niku_baiviku> hi
[16:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> Slart ty
[16:13] <Niku_baiviku> gretings Muad'dib
[16:13] <Slart> kubanc: some channels only allow registered users..  if you have more questions  about this ask in #freenode
[16:14] <Lint01> how often are the packages in universe updated?
[16:14] <ngirard> Hello folks. locate(1) manual says: "If --regex is not specified, PATTERNs can contain globbing characters." Does it mean that the only metacharacter allowed is * ?
[16:14] <ouyes> hi
[16:14] <ouyes> !HI | OUYES
[16:14] <Slart> Lint01: usually when there's a good reason to update afaik.. ie security update or such
[16:15] <ouyes> !HI | ouyes
[16:15] <edeca> Gibby: Try artsdsp and see if that helps you.  I haven't done this for a few years, but that's what I used when I had the same trouble as you
[16:15] <bazhang> ouyes, please /msg ubottu
[16:15] <Gibby> edeca, is that a binary I need to run?
[16:15] <X70A07X> !<factoid>
[16:15] <pixellace> Jack_Smirnoff: attempted that- when ftp to that directory it fails
[16:15] <edeca> Gibby: You run: artsdsp mygame
[16:16] <edeca> Gibby: But I dunno what package contains that now
[16:16] <Gibby> Hmm, ok I do not have it installed, I will search for it
[16:16] <X70A07X> !<cairo-dock>
[16:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> pixellace http://paste.ubuntu.com/373314/  in a web broswer
[16:16] <ouyes> bazhang,  i said ok to ubottu and thanked her
[16:17] <bazhang> X70A07X, /msg ubottu
[16:17] <joe_evans> "she" is a 90 year old guy in a wheel chair
[16:17] <pixellace> Jack_Smirnoff: I got that, i attempted to follow the instructions, but it's still not allowing me FTP access outside of the users home folder
[16:17] <etsorbme8> i am trying to run two instances of squid and I have config problems  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a8d5bf1
[16:17] <fabiosl> Does anyone knows how can I put the log of a program into a txt file?
[16:17] <shishirdwivedi20> how can i get different command of ubuntu
[16:18] <fabiosl> kind of... the shell logs to be stored into a txt.
[16:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> pixellace np.. I dont use ftp for anything. but someone will know
[16:18] <joe_evans> fabiosl : myprog > txt.txt
[16:18] <fabiosl> "myprogram -v" output to be stored completely, how can i do it?
[16:18] <shishirdwivedi20> any one plz help i am new on ubuntu
[16:18] <ertz> ;]]
[16:19] <blakkheim> shishirdwivedi20: what do you mean "different command of ubuntu"?
[16:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> shishirdwivedi20 ask a complete question
[16:19] <ramakrishna> could you please give me the project names of computer  science related.
[16:19] <shishirdwivedi20> means all command
[16:19] <blakkheim> shishirdwivedi20: for the terminal?
[16:19] <edeca> shishirdwivedi20: Open a terminal, press tab twice
[16:19] <Sabaka_> hi, im new at ubuntu and need some help installing wine, can anyone help me? it would be best if any polish is here :)
[16:19] <shishirdwivedi20> i know only one apt-get install
[16:19] <ouyes> very smart bot "<ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)"
[16:19] <ouyes> ramakrishna,  Pi calculation
[16:19] <blakkheim> shishirdwivedi20: there are millions
[16:19] <pixellace> my user and directory belong to the same group- shouldn't I be able to access that directory when I FTP?
[16:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> Sabaka_ sudo apt-get install wine
[16:19] <ramakrishna> ouyes,can you give one more
[16:20] <ouyes> blakkheim, he just need one , but you did not give
[16:20] <edeca> pixellace: Which FTP server?  Some only allow anonymous access
[16:20] <blakkheim> ouyes: he didn't specify what he wanted to do, just "ubuntu commands"
[16:20] <shishirdwivedi20> i want some general command so that i can work on ubuntu
[16:20] <pixellace> VSFTP I have it set to allow local users and anonymous is turned off
[16:20] <hipe> ngirard: i don't know about locate specifically, but fileglobs also usually support the useless '?' symbol to mean "any one character"
[16:20] <pixellace> when I start a new connection the only access is that user's home folder
[16:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> !find abs
[16:20] <edeca> hipe: Why is that "useless"? :)
[16:20] <ouyes> ramakrishna, decode a ciphered file, you do not know the encrypt method, you have to alnasis
[16:20] <edeca> hipe: rm foo?? is much better than rm foo* :)
[16:21] <shishirdwivedi20> is there any website help to learn basics of ubuntu?
[16:21] <edeca> shishirdwivedi20: You want basic _linux_ commands
[16:21] <ramakrishna> can any one please suggest a project names for doing
[16:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> !guide
[16:21] <hipe> edeca: true ;)
[16:21] <Diverdude> what happens when you have compiz cube and forexample 8 desktops? Do you then have 2 cubes?
[16:21] <edeca> shishirdwivedi20: Just search google for "linux introduction"
[16:21] <ngirard> well, thanks anyway hipe
[16:21] <ouyes> ramakrishna, this is ubuntu channel we are now offtopic
[16:21] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[16:21] <edeca> Diverdude: I had one huge cube once
[16:21] <Diverdude> edeca, nice...with how many desktops?
[16:21] <edeca> Diverdude: Only 2 actually, but different size monitors
[16:21] <edeca> Diverdude: It handled it fine
[16:22] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[16:22] <shishirdwivedi20> edeca  one more question
[16:22] <Diverdude> how can you have a cube with 2 dekstops only? what was on the 2 remaining sides og the cube?
[16:22] <shishirdwivedi20> i have trouble in openinig txt file
[16:22] <edeca> lungan: mplayer can convert
[16:22] <Diverdude> Diverdude, besides top and bottom
[16:22] <ouyes> ramakrishna, take partition of the Lucid testing, and find the bugs and try to fix it .
[16:22] <ashwani> hey can anyone tell in which configuration file  i have to make changes so that i m able to save them for offline usage
[16:22] <edeca> Diverdude: I thought you meant the rotation cube :)
[16:22] <shishirdwivedi20> edeca how can i solve this
[16:22] <Diverdude> edeca, yeah i did
[16:23] <ramakrishna> ouyes,could you give any new package names that supports the ubunt, which are under developing
[16:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> shishirdwivedi20 http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[16:23] <edeca> shishirdwivedi20: You don't tell us _what_ the problems are
[16:23] <lungan> edeca, how?
[16:23] <shishirdwivedi20> edeca file not openinig
[16:23] <edeca> lungan: Er, dunno off the top of my head.  But man mplayer should give you hints
[16:23] <Diverdude> edeca, but i guess you need a multiple of 4 in order to have a cube
[16:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> shishirdwivedi20 Please read the quide I linked
[16:23] <Diverdude> edeca, multiple of 4 desktops
[16:24] <shishirdwivedi20> ok jack
[16:24] <Sabaka_> jest jakis polak na kanale? / or maybe anyone know any polish irc room?
[16:24] <edeca> Diverdude: Well I didn't have all cube sides visible at once, obviously :)
[16:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> !po
[16:24] <bazhang> Sabaka_, #ubuntu-pl
[16:24] <Diverdude> edeca, i see
[16:24] <Sabaka_> thanks
[16:24] <Diverdude> edeca, 4,16,136
[16:25] <Diverdude> edeca, are you catching my dift
[16:25] <Diverdude> drift
[16:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> Diverdude You can have a 5 sided cube in compiz
[16:27] <ashwani> h
[16:27] <shishirdwivedi20> from where i can get nokia pc suite? anybody have any idea?
[16:28] <shishirdwivedi20> for ubuntu
[16:28] <tim> Hi:
[16:28] <blakkheim> shishirdwivedi20: there probably isn't one
[16:29] <qwerkus> hi, is there a chan to discuss which hardware to buy ?
[16:29] <jmkgreen> We just upgraded an 8.10 server and now our java apps complain that the mysql connector is not found.
[16:29] <CShadowRun> qwerkus: #hardware
[16:29] <Jack_Smirnoff> !hardware
[16:29] <ashwani> sry for interupt
[16:29] <jmkgreen> We can use java -cp to supply the path to the driver but that makes no difference
[16:29] <shishirdwivedi20> blakkheim so there is no way to connect my mobile through ubuntu?
[16:29] <ashwani> pls tell in which configuration file  i have to make changes so that i m able to save them for offline usage
[16:29] <jmkgreen> any ideas?
[16:29] <etsorbme8> what would be the outcome if i were to install squid and squid3 on my ubuntu box
[16:29] <edeca> jmkgreen: You have libmysql-java?
[16:30] <blakkheim> shishirdwivedi20: don't know, it might be possible
[16:30] <jmkgreen> edeca: yep
[16:30] <qwerkus> CShadowRun: is #hardware linux-focused ?
[16:30] <CShadowRun> qwerkus: no.
[16:30] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[16:30] <tim> I am in the process of replacing my Windows 2K server with the Ubuntu package.  Everything installed ok on a Dell T110 server.  However, I cannot access files on drive sdb1.  They work fine on the 3 other drives.  What should I do?
[16:30] <pixellace> can someone tell me more about the default www-data group?
[16:30] <powergoal> On the netbook edition of Kubuntu, there is an application "newspaper" is there any way to get that to run on kubuntu-desktop?
[16:30] <ashwani> how to save downloaded packages in ubuntu
[16:30] <shishirdwivedi20> blakkheim how can i install java compiler?
[16:30] <qwerkus> CShadowRun: well, since I'm going to run ubuntu, I was looking for a linux-hardware channel ...
[16:31] <shishirdwivedi20> for programming puropse
[16:31] <CShadowRun> qwerkus: they'll be able to help you with that, too.
[16:31] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim First, check to see what the ownership is by going to /media and doing a ls -la
[16:31] <ashwani> shishirdwivedi20 just insatll jdk and change path variable as u do in windows
[16:32] <shishirdwivedi20> ok
[16:32] <qwerkus> CShadowRun: thanks a lot.
[16:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> ashwani they are in var/cache/apt/archives
[16:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> !aptoncd
[16:32] <ashwani> jack_Smiroff any changes to be made in any configuration files
[16:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> ashwani I dont understand that question
[16:32] <jmkgreen> edeca: no more nuggets?
[16:33] <ashwani> ok
[16:33] <edeca> jmkgreen: Hm, just had a quick look and I don't see anything.  It's not somehting I know much about
[16:33] <ashwani> thanks a lot
[16:33] <jmkgreen> ok
[16:33] <Nada> Hola
[16:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> np
[16:33] <Nada> Ehh
[16:33] <qwerkus> CShadowRun: while trying to enter #hardware, I get "you need an invitation" ?!???
[16:33] <Nada> Hello
[16:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> !register
[16:33] <CShadowRun> qwerkus: you need to register ^
[16:34] <Nada> hello
[16:34] <Nada> hello
[16:34] <qwerkus> CShadowRun: ain't I ?
[16:34] <Nada> hello
[16:34] <FloodBot2> Nada: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:34] <Tux_78> does anyone know if google task can be synced with evolution mail?
[16:34] <Nada> =)
[16:34] <Nada> awah
[16:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> Nada Please stop
[16:34] <bazhang> Nada, stop that
[16:34] <CShadowRun> qwerkus: it's an open channel, try /join ##hardware
[16:34] <Nada> kabeza melon melon melon cabeza melon
[16:35] <Gangrel> !themes
[16:36] <live_wire> hello everyone, I changed my graphics resolution to 1280x800 in startup-manager and now when booting in ubuntu I recveive a black screen
[16:36] <live_wire> I cannot even boot in to recovery mode
[16:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> live_wire HOW did you change it
[16:36] <kreuter> hi #ubuntu.  can upstart run a job under a different userid than root?
[16:37] <rbrunhuber9729> Can I start a normal application (not a daemon) with init/upstart?
[16:37] <loops> anyone know why a kvm client can access internet but can't access local network machines?
[16:37] <tim> The ownership if the Media folder is root.  The ownership of each folder is "tim"
[16:37] <Slart> live_wire: startup-manager? what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim is the sdb whatever mounted?
[16:37] <live_wire> its a fresh install ubuntu 9.10, i downloaded the startup-manager program, changed the resolution, restarted
[16:38] <Slart> live_wire: I thought startup-manager only handled grub 1 .. I might be wrong of course..
[16:39] <live_wire> Slart:  that might be  why I'm having problems then :)  I didn't realize it was only for grub1
[16:39] <live_wire> this is my first linux experience, so I'm not real sure what's what right now, but trying to learn
[16:39] <lungan> Are there anygood channel for mediaproblems?
[16:39] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim type mount in a term to see
[16:39] <Slart> live_wire: no wonder you didn't see it.. I can't find any information about it
[16:39] <tim> Sorry Jack, owner for sdb1 is tim.  Ownership of the others is root.
[16:40] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim so you want to change the ownership of the oddball to match the working one right
[16:40] <wasutton3> is there a way to dd from one cd drive directly to another? i.e (dd IF=/dev/cdrom0 OF=/dev/cdrom1)
[16:40] <tim> Yes
[16:40] <carter> any channel for hardware
[16:41] <bazhang> carter ##hardware
[16:41] <carter> * ##hardware :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[16:41] <lungan> any channel for mediaproblems? Having trouble to convert .mkv to .mp4 so I can play it on my philips TV
[16:41] <carter> :((
[16:41] <edeca> wasutton3: I don't think you can write to CDs that easily.  dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=myfile.iso then burn back using a commandline burner
[16:41] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim http://paste.ubuntu.com/373339/
[16:41] <bazhang> carter, then register join #freenode for help
[16:41] <edeca> wasutton3: Can still be done in a few lines from the terminal
[16:42] <wasutton3> edeca: but it will still be a bit for bit copy right?
[16:42] <edeca> wasutton3: Yep.  Reading it to a .iso using dd is a great way of ensuring that
[16:42] <wasutton3> edeca: fantastic, ill be trying that when i get home tonight
[16:43] <edeca> wasutton3: I backup all my data CDs like that :)
[16:43] <Jack_Smirnoff> wasutton3 when done with dd, right click the iso and write to disk
[16:43] <brontosaurusrex> lungan: mkv toolnix may be able to remux it
[16:44] <`mOOse`> who's an admin on for the ubuntu website?
[16:44] <brontosaurusrex> lungan: or mp4box
[16:44] <edeca> `mOOse`: If it's a bug report, I think you can just file a ticket
[16:44] <`mOOse`> naw edeca  - I want to whine :-)
[16:45] <`mOOse`> even better lol
[16:45] <lungan> brontosaurusrex, I have downloaded avidemux, but I don't know which formats i should choose when changing he file to .mp4, I've heard something that theres the audio I need to change
[16:45] <live_wire> is there anyway to reset the resolution at the grub2 menu?
[16:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> lungan look into DeVeDe
[16:46] <brontosaurusrex> lungan: if audio is ac3 then you will probably have to convert it, not sure whats the actual state with that right now
[16:46] <brontosaurusrex> lungan: but generaly speaking mp4 is friends with aac audio
[16:46] <fabio125> lungan: video x284, audio aac
[16:47] <fabio125> *x264
[16:47] <mabatr> i'm having trouble with a friend of mines netbook, the wireless internet isnt' working for some reason. apparently the b43 module is running, but the wireless device isn't showing up under system administration
[16:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> !broadcomm
[16:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> !broadcom
[16:48] <brontosaurusrex> lungan: however the easier way is to get a device which can play mkvs, like wdtv
[16:48] <Omarman> Hello... please help... the ttf-mscorefonts-installer packages fails to install. Does anybody know more about this? Has it been deprecated?
[16:48] <mabatr> tyty
[16:48] <MasterOfDisaster> How to get sound across all X displays? Seems like a pulseaudio issue.
[16:49] <Marcuus> I need help reinstalling GRUB on my drive for dualboot, had to reinstall win7! Can someone please walk me through it?
[16:49] <edeca> Marcuus: grub-install /dev/sd?
[16:49] <doobeh> Omarman: constant 302 forwarding error?
[16:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus SIngle drive or dual and which partition has 7
[16:49] <lungan> fabio125, brontosaurusrex Yea, but the .mkv files I have is usually video x284, and then i only need to change the audio too which?
[16:50] <jtolentino> @mabatar i have the same problem with my wifi. followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx but ended up with the same problem that you have
[16:50] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Single drive, win7 on sda2
[16:50] <Niku_baiviku> i got this name.bin that supposed to be an mmorpg from the net, when clicked i get,, choose app to open with...
[16:50] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Ubuntu on sda7
[16:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus some sort of recovery partition on sda1
[16:50] <MasterOfDisaster> Niku_baiviku: try chmod +x name.bin
[16:50] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Yeah
[16:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus I have not done that in quite awhile, but you will need a ubuntu live cd
[16:51] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Im on a livecd atm
[16:52] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus I will be back in a minute or two, going to look in my notes.
[16:52] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: OKay thanks
[16:52] <Niku_baiviku> what is that supposed to do.. ive tried it and i get nothing
[16:52] <doobeh> Omarman: try putting 'sudo apt-get --purge remove ttf-mscorefonts-installer' in at the console, then installing from the .deb located here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/all/ttf-mscorefonts-installer/download
[16:52] <jtolentino> i'm a noob with ubuntu and i have no idea why my wifi couldn't find the available network. here's a screen cap. hope someone can help. http://sites.google.com/site/johntolentino/_/rsrc/1265812280474/miscellaneous/Screenshot.png
[16:52] <carnolobius> ola
[16:52] <fabio125> lungan: keep x264 for the video (best codec around), use aac (faac) for the audio
[16:52] <doobeh> (then let me know if it worked, so I can do it when I get home)
[16:52] <Niku_baiviku> chmod +x /home/nicu/descarcari/PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86.bin && sudo /PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86_bin
[16:52] <carnolobius> alguien sabe español?
[16:52] <jtolentino> i followed the docs from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#See%20Also
[16:53] <jtolentino> driver's good
[16:53] <jtolentino> but the wireless network doesn't appear in the list
[16:53] <Niku_baiviku> chmod +x /home/nicu/descarcari/PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86.bin && sudo /PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86_bin   is that spelled correctly?>
[16:54] <blakkheim> Niku_baiviku: no
[16:55] <Niku_baiviku> chmod +x /home/nicu/descarcari/PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86.bin && sudo ./PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86_bin   that correct?
[16:55] <blakkheim> Niku_baiviku: yes
[16:55] <Niku_baiviku> chmod +x ./home/nicu/descarcari/PlaneShift-v0.5.1-x86.bin
[16:55] <Niku_baiviku>  sorry... that
[16:55] <blakkheim> Niku_baiviku: no
[16:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus  Fixing grub..  boot live cd, open terminal, sudo grub, root (hd0,x)-- x being the partition grub resides, setup (hd0) exit
[16:56] <helper> Niku_baiviku,  i think u mean chmod u+x ?
[16:56] <Omarman> TY Dooben...lol
[16:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus I think you said ubuntu /boot was on 7?
[16:57] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Yes
[16:57] <Pop> can somebody help me with any tools to download torrent file???
[16:57] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Isnt that 6 in grub since the zero counts?
[16:57] <edeca> Pop: What do you need help with?
[16:57] <blakkheim> Pop: rtorrent is a good torrent client
[16:57] <freckledp> I'm trying to find instructions on generating an AES (256) key.  There are lots of references online to generating them for filesystem encryption, but I just need a standalone key.  Anyone know of a site, etc. that talks about that?
[16:57] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus well done.. yes, it starts at 0
[16:57] <edeca> Pop: I like rtorrent or ctorrent
[16:57] <Niku_baiviku> i still get nothing  no answer
[16:57] <j2bv161> Hi
[16:57] <j2bv161> i need help
[16:57] <edeca> freckledp: A key is just data.  If you want 256 blocks of random data, use /dev/urandom
[16:57] <edeca> freckledp: You could also use something like pwgen
[16:58] <j2bv161> i have empathy
[16:58] <j2bv161> i update to have video
[16:58] <j2bv161> but now i ve got an big green button in the tray
[16:58] <freckledp> edeca, ty...I guess I was overthinking it ;)
[16:58] <j2bv161> i want to delete
[16:58] <brontosaurusrex> lungan: audio to AAC
[16:59] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Wouldnt i have to mount the partition first?
[16:59] <Jack_Smirnoff> j2bv161 How did you upgrade empathy?
[16:59] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: It doesnt work
[16:59] <MasterOfDisaster> how can I use one pulseaudio session from multiple X sessions?
[16:59] <`mOOse`> Pop, Deluge is good too
[16:59] <j2bv161> From the offcial telepathy repository
[17:00] <`mOOse`> (closest to uTorrent if you know that one)
[17:00] <lungan> brontosaurusrex, okok I will try that
[17:00] <MasterOfDisaster> Sound only plays on :0, even if I play music on :1
[17:00] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus Like I said I have not done that in awhile.. what error do you get?
[17:00] <Marcuus> checking if X exists... no
[17:01] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff:
[17:01] <sangho> e턋
[17:01] <Pop> `mOOse`: i need torrent client with graphical interface
[17:01] <Omarman> doobeh.. it didn't work.. same problem. Once the bed tries to install it goes online to try and download something... that download fail.. and eventually Gdebi comes back with an error code.
[17:01] <Marcuus> Pop: Deluge.
[17:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus  Fixing grub..  boot live cd, open terminal, sudo grub, root (hd0,6) says what
[17:01] <Marcuus> Pop: Transmission
[17:02] <KE1HA> Pop, https://help.ubuhmod g+rwntu.com/community/BitTorrent
[17:02] <j2bv161> i para colmo now y don have indicator,session
[17:02] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: i wrote the output :)
[17:02] <tim> Jack:  I keep getting a error when attempting to change the owner.  It looks like my syntax is wrong since I took your instructions literally.  tim@tr1:~$ sudo chown -R username:username /sdb1
[17:02] <tim> chown: invalid user: `username:username'
[17:02] <tim>   How would you phrase this if I wanted to change ownership from tim to root?
[17:02] <`mOOse`> Pop, Deluge is great
[17:02] <j2bv161> ive lose
[17:02] <MasterOfDisaster> tim: chown root:root -R <file>
[17:02] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Works that far
[17:03] <MasterOfDisaster> tim: what did you think? :-)
[17:03] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: But the setup cant find anything
[17:03] <Trinity33> hi i want to ask how to install libglu headers?
[17:03] <edeca> You can't own special devices in /dev like that
[17:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim in my example I also showed where I changed username to my own nick,  you wanted that to match the other partition which was root:root right
[17:03] <edeca> Trinity33: Install libglu-dev
[17:03] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Checking if /boot/grub/stage1 exists... no
[17:03] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: and same for /grub/stage1
[17:03] <MasterOfDisaster> edeca: sure you can - but it won't stick
[17:03] <mulambo> hey guys my ubuntu is acting weird ubuntu 10.04 pre release
[17:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus then 0,6 is wrong...
[17:04] <mulambo> whats the channel for that
[17:04] <Trinity33> edeca i got something like : Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:04] <Trinity33>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dev_7.2-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[17:04] <edeca> MasterOfDisaster: In that case, I should say, owning files like that is useless
[17:04] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Oh riteee, / is on a small partition. *facepalm*
[17:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus  sudo fdisk -l
[17:04] <mulambo> dont do that
[17:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus that is making mre sense
[17:04] <edeca> Trinity33: apt-get clean then try again
[17:05] <lungan> brontosaurusrex, I'm now trying to convert to video x264 video and AAC audio, in the .mp4 container
[17:05] <MasterOfDisaster> edeca: you'd need this e.g. for using dd or for accessing sound hardware directly
[17:06] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Doesnt work either
[17:06] <tim> Yes, I want to match the other partitions.
[17:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus  sudo fdisk -l
[17:06] <edeca> MasterOfDisaster: Ew.  I see your point, but dd is better solved using sudo and sound hardware is better sorted using udev rules with group permissions :)
[17:06] <otak> mulambo: #ubuntu+1
[17:06] <MasterOfDisaster> edeca: indeed, you're right
[17:06] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: What am I looking for?
[17:07] <Trinity33> edeca this time i got output: Reading state information... Done
[17:07] <Trinity33> Note, selecting libglu1-mesa-dev instead of libglu-dev
[17:07] <Trinity33> libglu1-mesa-dev is already the newest version.
[17:07] <Trinity33> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[17:07] <Trinity33> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[17:07] <FloodBot2> Trinity33: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:07] <Trinity33>   libglu1-mesa-dev: Depends: libgl1-mesa-dev or
[17:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim sudo chown -R root:root /media/sdxy          xy changed to match your hardware
[17:08] <damjanzg> How to store awk output to variable?
[17:08] <edeca> damjanzg: VAR=$( awk ... )
[17:08] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: What do I want from the fdisk -l?
[17:08] <edeca> damjanzg: Or VAR=`awk ...`
[17:08] <edeca> damjanzg: Either `` or $( ) can be used in bash
[17:09] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus was looking to see where your /boot folder was hiding
[17:09] <damjanzg> edeca: tnx
[17:09] <snew> hi
[17:10] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/176247/
[17:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus mount the ubuntu drives on that box and find /boot
[17:10] <ubuntu> pikachu55554
[17:11] <ubuntu> hi
[17:11] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: done
[17:11] <Trinity33> edeca tnx its working now:)
[17:11] <ubuntu> :P
[17:12] <j2bv16> Hi
[17:12] <ubuntu> hello
[17:12] <edeca> Trinity33: Welcome.
[17:12] <edeca> Trinity33: Possibly a bad download
[17:12] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus  Fixing grub..  boot live cd, open terminal, sudo grub, root (hd0,5) then try 6 then try 7 -- x being the partition grub resides, setup (hd0) exit
[17:12] <j2bv16> i update empathy
[17:12] <j2bv16> and now i have a big green button in tray
[17:12] <j2bv16> i wana delete
[17:13] <johnzorn> how do I reset the dpkg status of a pkg. its installed correctly but still complains to me
[17:13] <j2bv16> but empathy dont give me the option
[17:13] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: That doesnt even touch my mounted partition?
[17:13] <ubuntu> ...
[17:14] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus which partition has boot
[17:14] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: The root of my ubuntu?
[17:14] <Pikachu55554> ...
[17:14] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus which partition has a folder /boot
[17:15] <Pikachu55554> i'm going 2 play gnibbles cya!
[17:15] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: sda6,
[17:15] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: which is sda5 in grub?
[17:15] <Jack_Smirnoff> !aptfix
[17:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus  Fixing grub..  boot live cd, open terminal, sudo grub, root (hd0,5)  then  setup (hd0) exit
[17:17] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Im afraid that doesnt work
[17:17] <Jack_Smirnoff> Marcuus then someone else will need to help you. from what I remember that should do it
[17:17] <Marcuus> Jack_Smirnoff: Thanks anyways
[17:18] <`mOOse`> can't he just re-install grub?
[17:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> np it should find stage1 there
[17:18] <`mOOse`> with no parameters?
[17:18] <`mOOse`> it will autofind win7
[17:18] <`mOOse`> no?
[17:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> lets find out
[17:19] <j2bv16> can anyone help me
[17:19] <cchapman> Does anyone have a deb package for the Citrix Receiver client?
[17:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> j2bv16 Upgrading from THEIR official site is not the same as using our supported repos.. sorry I cant help
[17:19] <maxagaz_> is there a tool in gnome to have a small window in which i can set a diaporama of pictures ?
[17:19] <j2bv16> Can you give me a soluion
[17:20] <j2bv16> ?
[17:20] <cchapman> I want to install it on a mass scale and doesnt seem to be a good way of doing it
[17:20] <j2bv16> I want to remove the icon
[17:20] <j2bv16> im going back to pidgin
[17:20] <KE1HA> cchapman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[17:21] <KE1HA> then get a root script going to deploy it.
[17:22] <jcdury> ury
[17:22] <cchapman> KE1HA, I followed that but would you want to sit down at 100 computers and do that?
[17:22] <KE1HA> No, been there, done that, not fun.
[17:22] <cchapman> KE1HA, I was hoping there was a solution out there where I could install via a deb package or some automated script
[17:23] <Trek> cchapman, easiest thing to do to install everything to multiple computers is to clone the drives to all the computers
[17:23] <sebsebseb>  
[17:23] <cchapman> KE1HA, Is it against any EULA to package it myself?
[17:23] <Trek> after the drives have the data on it
[17:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> !packaging
[17:23] <KE1HA> cchapman, I need to look in my brian book,  but we had some WAN app deployment tools for things like this.
[17:24] <secret> Is there any software on ubuntu I can install so I can configure my onboard microphone I am having problems with it
[17:24] <cchapman> KE1HA, brian book?
[17:24] <KE1HA> Yeah, the admin book of knowledge, we called it the brain book.
[17:24] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:24] <gerry__> Hi dury
[17:25] <lungan> IS blu ray  .mkv?
[17:25] <dury> gerry__: how do you doing there?
[17:25] <kaizn> Hello nice people. I'm trying to install apache2 with vhost_alias mod working together with dnsmasq, for my local development platform. The intension is to only have to create a new folder "site.dev" and use that as the url in my browser to access the server. I followed this guide (http://www.bukisa.com/articles/196445_how-to-set-up-a-local-development-environment-in-ubuntu), but it doesn't seem to work. Help anyone?
[17:25] <edeca> lungan: File extensions aren't an indication of content ;)
[17:25] <gerry__> dury: good
[17:25] <edeca> kaizn: Which bit doesn't work?
[17:25] <oxymoron> What does this mean, and my unlucky day as usual as i recently updated mysql packages, silly me: "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'"
[17:26] <kaizn> edeca, dnsmasq doesn't send me to localhost
[17:26] <tim> It worked!  /media/sdb1 now matches othe other folders with root as the owner.  My next problem is with sharing folder "f", located on drive F.  Do I need to refresh anything else?  The shared folder f is now owned by root and cannot be accessed.  The other shared folders on Drive H are owned by tim and they are working fine.
[17:26] <edeca> kaizn: You edited /etc/hosts and added the "fake" names on the dnsmasq host?
[17:26] <edeca> kaizn: Then reloaded dnsmasq?
[17:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim do the same thing you just did for the partition, but do it on the folder and make it tim:tim
[17:27] <kaizn> edeca, fake names? The point of that guide was to not have to edit the host file. I only did what i was asked to.
[17:27] <natrixnatrix89> If I have no gui. How do i connect to wireless networks? I dont really understand how to use iwconfig for that. I tried sudo iwconfig wlan1 essid "my-essid", but nothing happens. How do I connect to a network using terminal?
[17:27] <edeca> kaizn: Ah, OK.  Well dnsmasq reads the entries from /etc/hosts and acts as a DNS resolver
[17:27] <edeca> kaizn: Or, it can do
[17:28] <Trinity33> hi again im trying to install ati-stream-sdk-v2.0-lnx32 what happen i did tar xvfz and then command make and everything is working fine what should i do next ? after make is this package already installed or should i do something more? make install doesnt work
[17:28] <kaizn> edeca, i edited the dnsmasq.conf and added: address=/dev/127.0.0.1, pluss listen-address=127.0.0.1
[17:29] <KE1HA> cchapman, this isn't the exact package we used, but it was very similar: http://www.kace.com/land/1/index.php?land=sw-deployment&ad_group=Software+Deployment&utm_campaign=Software+Distribution&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&keyword=deploy%20software&gclid=CIbKwNCl6J8CFRMXawodVXLIHQ
[17:29] <lukasz> dobry
[17:29] <ehnde> my computer has 4gb of memory, but cat /proc/meminfo is only showing
[17:29] <ehnde> 3
[17:29] <ehnde> anyone know why?
[17:30] <edeca> ehnde: You're not using a 64 bit OS?
[17:30] <Jack_Smirnoff> ehnde 32 bis os limitation
[17:30] <Jack_Smirnoff> bit
[17:30] <ehnde> sorry meant to paste 3061624 kB
[17:30] <pixellace> i'm running out of options: i have vsftp installed- I have a user/user group: dev, I want to allow access to a directory outside of dev's home dir. The other dir permission's are 777 and it belongs to the user/group dev -- i'm denied access to that directory when I try to manually go to it. What am I doing wrong?
[17:30] <dury> gerry__: need someone to drive me to boot sata hd running karmic koala automatically it boots the IDE hd running ubuntu hardy 8.04.4 LTS.. what you suggest to do
[17:30] <ehnde> i thought the limit for 32 bit linux was 4gb?
[17:30] <edeca> pixellace: Are you running vsftpd chrooted?
[17:31] <maxtor> Hi there, trying to use synaptic package manager to install kde desktop enviroment, do i select multiverse....universe... or the one with neather?
[17:31] <kaizn> edeca, is there any way i can check if my browsers are talking to Dnsmasq at all?
[17:31] <pixellace> edeca: yes
[17:31] <edeca> kaizn: You could use wireshark
[17:31] <Jack_Smirnoff> ehnde it will only let you use 3.4 or whatever, it does use the rest for the os
[17:31] <edeca> pixellace: Then that's your problem.  There are two ways round it: 1) don't use chrooting 2) bind mount the directory outside the home directory into the home dir
[17:31] <gerry__> dury: please direct your questions towards the channel not one particular person, cheers
[17:31] <blakkheim> maxtor: use aptitude
[17:32] <maxtor> whats the string i need to type to get it buddy?
[17:32] <blakkheim> maxtor: which one do you want to install?
[17:32] <Ohan> hi there guys
[17:32] <dury> gerry__: ok, sorry
[17:32] <Kucyk> witam
[17:32] <Ohan> anyone here could give me a hand fixing an issue with runit and runit-run?
[17:32] <ehnde> Jack_Smirnoff: with 4gb of memory, do you think it would be worth it to upgrade to 64 bit ubuntu?
[17:32] <Ohan> i just installed them, and can't boot my system anymore :(
[17:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> ehnde Are you running out of memory while working, if not then dont bother
[17:33] <maxtor> blakkheim  Im trying to get KDE with compiz effects, ive installed xubuntu but its running gnome at the moment
[17:33] <dury> could anyone to drive me to boot sata hd running karmic koala automatically it boots the IDE hd running ubuntu hardy 8.04.4 LTS.. what you suggest to do
[17:33] <pixellace> edeca: so I can leave chrooting on and bind the outside folder? i would like access to any other folders outside the one I would possibly bind invisible/inaccessible
[17:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> maxtor sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:33] <jtholmes> where is the linux approved/tested laptop list please
[17:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> !laptop
[17:33] <blakkheim> maxtor: if you want the whole ubuntu kde desktop, "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop" but that is extremely bloated
[17:34] <dury> should I edit grub
[17:34] <gerry__> dury: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html#bitch =D
[17:34] <ehnde> Jack_Smirnoff: no, i'm not even coming close to running out of memory. thanks for your help :)
[17:34] <shubbar> i cannot play a DVD video and it shows its 51 GB in size!
[17:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> np
[17:35] <kemmotar> hi all! i have installed pidgin with microblogging plugin, and after few days of using it stop connect to twitter... what happen?
[17:35] <Ohan> i installed runit and now i can't boot my system anymore, could someone help me? during the boot there's a message saying "can't contact upstart" and everything freezes
[17:35] <blakkheim> kemmotar: /join #pidgin
[17:35] <dury> ok, gerry___
[17:36] <coz_> kemmotar,  not sure ... I dont use pidgin...however is something change on twitter?
[17:36] <maxtor> blakkheim, installing using the first string mate ;)
[17:36] <tim> Awesome, looks like things are working.  Thanks for your knowledge and help.
[17:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> tim np glad it is working
[17:36] <gerry__> dury: in regards to your question, they should mount automatically, not sure why they wouldn't be
[17:37] <`mOOse`> maxtor, you can turn on kde daemon in xubuntu in Settings - Session And Startup - Advanced
[17:37] <gerry__> Anybody else have an idea as to what could be causing dury's issue?
[17:37] <faheem_> hello my problem is that im using a laptop without an optical drive and my usb refuses to read now.. it has the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/251781 i read this and found a solution but i cant exactly implement it since im a newbie anyone willing to help (PS the soluition seems to be from comment #34)
[17:37] <`mOOse`> maxtor, xubuntu is xfce, not gnome, btw
[17:37] <cchapman> anyone else on the citrix web plugin debian package,
[17:38] <kemmotar> coz_: there no info about any changes... other twitter clients works...
[17:38] <coz_> kemmotar,  ok then the suggestion to go to the #pigdin channel may be more helpful :)
[17:38] <candy> how to open .cdr file
[17:38] <candy> ??
[17:38] <candy> inkspace opened it but i cant see the contents
[17:39] <faheem_> hello my problem is that im using a laptop without an optical drive and my usb refuses to read now and i cant seem to mount properly i get some type of a DBus error
[17:39] <maxtor> thanks m00se
[17:40] <`mOOse`> maxtor, yw
[17:40] <faheem_> :('
[17:40] <faheem_> hello my problem is that im using a laptop without an optical drive and my usb refuses to read now and i cant seem to mount properly i get some type of a DBus error
[17:40] <Jack_Smirnoff> faheem_ Please hold down on repeating your question
[17:40] <edeca> faheem_: Have you rebooted?  Is it a persistent error?
[17:40] <faheem_> edeca, it is persistant
[17:41] <faheem_> Jack_Smirnoff, will do so :)
[17:41] <Jack_Smirnoff> ty
[17:41] <faheem_> edeca, it seems any usb port i use doesnt want to work now too.. it had previouslyt
[17:42] <dury> that grub use to boot mandriva but I've removed it and I've installed karmic koala, whenever I boot the box grub of 8.04 launches and I haven't got the choice to boot karmic
[17:42] <edeca> faheem_: What is the specific dbus error?
[17:42] <Jack_Smirnoff> faheem_ It may have been removed improperly and become locked down.  Do you have another machine that yu can use to see if it works correctly
[17:43] <faheem_> Jack_Smirnoff, already done so works fine on and i used 3 different flash disks all dont work here same Db issue
[17:43] <Jack_Smirnoff> dury change cmos settings.
[17:43] <faheem_> edeca, wait a sec
[17:43] <dury> it gives me error
[17:44] <faheem_> edeca, Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.117 was not provided by any .service files
[17:44] <faheem_> Please select another viewer and try again.
[17:44] <dury> Jack_Smirnoff: in bios?
[17:44] <edeca> Well that sucks.  Did you upgrade faheem_?
[17:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> dury yes, cmos is in bios
[17:44] <militant1> hello.  i'm trying to get my usb760 3g usb modem stick thingie working in UNR.  i've cahnged the two files the forums say to, and sometimes it works.  but what's happening is each time i insert it, a NEW entry is being created so the ruleset isn't applying
[17:44] <faheem_> edeca, yeah i did from 8.04 to 8.10
[17:45] <faheem_> edeca, dont tell me if i have to fresh install :((
[17:45] <Jooder492> once i uninstalled something, how do i get the application i uninstalled to disappear from the application menu?
[17:45] <`mOOse`> dury - did you update-grub?
[17:45] <dury> Jack_Smirnoff: what I suppose to do in cmos... could you drive me
[17:45] <militant1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1002262  i'm following those directions and it works, but /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules is making a new entry for the modem each time i insert the stick
[17:46] <aaron> too many guys log in then log off
[17:46] <Jack_Smirnoff> dury select the correct drive for booting the OS you just installed.
[17:46] <edeca> faheem_: Potentially, you could find the right package and dpkg --reconfigure
[17:46] <edeca> faheem_: But a fresh install might be easier
[17:46] <faheem_> edeca, any way i could just downgrade :(
[17:46] <edeca> faheem_: Hm not easily.
[17:46] <faheem_> edeca... i was afraid u'd say that...
[17:46] <dury> Jack_Smirnoff: I've tried that with not success
[17:47] <`mOOse`> Jack_Smirnoff, if he didn't update grub then....?
[17:47] <`mOOse`> it might not be aware of kharmic koala
[17:47] <Jack_Smirnoff> moose  there are issues combining ide and sata drives..
[17:47] <`mOOse`> Jack_Smirnoff, ahh
[17:48] <militant1> any idea why 70-persistent-cd.rules makes a new entry every time i insert the same USB stick, instead of using exisitng entry?
[17:49] <faheem_> edeca, anyway to manually moint the usb ?
[17:49] <Jack_Smirnoff> !usb
[17:49] <faheem_> .........
[17:49] <faheem_> sigh
[17:49] <faheem_> thanks.. bye
[17:50] <dury> `m00se`: update the grub you mean
[17:50] <Jooder492> once i uninstalled something, how do i get the application i uninstalled to disappear from the application menu?
[17:50] <`mOOse`> yes dury
[17:50] <`mOOse`> "update-grub"
[17:50] <`mOOse`> er
[17:50] <`mOOse`> dury - "sudo update-grub"
[17:51] <dury> `m00se`: right.. see what's happen
[17:52] <damjanzg> How can I cut white spaces from string?
[17:52] <militant1> so no one currently here knows anything about /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules ?
[17:52] <edeca> damjanzg: sed 's/\s//g'
[17:52] <trism> Jooder492: usually it will be removed automatically, but if it isn't, you can right click the menu, choose edit, and either uncheck the box next to the item (to hide it), or delete it
[17:52] <dury> be back right now
[17:53] <kaizn> edeca, i tried sudoing it and it worked but there are no request on the lo interface when i try to connect to the domain. Does this mean that dnsmasq isn't working or what?
[17:54] <Guest57664> Hola soy dani
[17:55] <Guest57664> vale
[17:55] <Jack_Smirnoff> !es
[17:55] <damjanzg> sed 's/\s//g' and how can I cut spaces with this command if the txt is stored in variable?
[17:56] <candy> how to open and .cdr fle??
[17:56] <shubbar> still cannot read dvd after installing libdvdcss2
[17:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy what is in that file?
[17:57] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, file of carol draw
[17:57] <`mOOse`> how'd ya do dury?
[17:57] <edeca> damjanzg: echo $VARIABLE | sed 's/\s+//g'
[17:57] <dury> hi there again ... hmmmm not success still the same error :(
[17:57] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, extension is .cdr, i tried opening it with inkspace but cant see the contents
[17:58] <Jooder492> once i uninstalled something, how do i get the application i uninstalled to disappear from the application menu?
[17:58] <Jack_Smirnoff> shubbar https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[17:58] <Plegee> If I decide to reinstall ubuntu will that mess up my grub bootloader (I am currently dual booting linux and windows right now)
[17:58] <trism> Jooder492: see the message I posted for you above
[17:58] <jrib> Plegee: no, it shouldn't
[17:58] <zinox> what the best dock AWN or Cairo-dock?
[17:58] <jrib> zinox: try both and use what is best for you
[17:58] <dury> can't launch it`m00se'
[17:59] <Jooder492> ok thank you.  didnt see your message trism
[17:59] <`mOOse`> dury sounds like you need to re-install grub2
[17:59] <Plegee> They both suck ,use gnome-do
[17:59] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy If you mean corel draw, you may need to use corel to export it as a different file type
[17:59] <dury> still in jaunty can't boot karmic hd
[18:00] <dury> re-install with jaunty or what what's you opinion 'm00se'
[18:00] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, how to do that??
[18:00] <Trek> dury, you're having issues booting a Hard Drive with Karmic installed?
[18:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy use a computer with corel or whatever created the file and save it as a different file type
[18:01] <`mOOse`> I'd run grub2 off the live cd and see if you can't get joy that way - I'm no expert dury but....
[18:01] <gangil> where can I find ubuntu specific patches for gdm?
[18:01] <gangil> please help
[18:01] <`mOOse`> grub2 is a pita any way you dice it
[18:01] <Trek> `m00se` / dury, have you tried to use the BIOS to boot to the specific drive itself?
[18:01] <gangil> :-/
[18:01] <ezrafree> hello
[18:02] <ezrafree> in Software Center the description for Empathy says it supports facebook chat, but now i've installed it and it only offers two kinds of chat protocols to add. any thoughts?
[18:02] <dury> Trek: can't see it in bios that drive
[18:02] <Trek> then the system isn't detecting it at all
[18:02] <Trek> what type of drive, dury?
[18:02] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: you need to install plugin
[18:02] <dury> sata
[18:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> trek be aware he is mixing ide and sata drives
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: or the Facebook IM for Pidgin
[18:03] <ezrafree> sebsebseb: ahh okay, thanks
[18:03] <Trek> Jack_Smirnoff: I do that with my Desktop, it works perfectly.  :P
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: np
[18:03] <Trek> dury, is SATA activated in BIOS?
[18:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> Trek it CAN be an issue.. I have dont it myself
[18:03] <shubbar> Jack_Smirnoff, still cannot play after installing medibuntu and libcss2. I get the menu of the dvd but then "error, could not read from the source"
[18:03] <ezrafree> sebsebseb: i normally use pidgin, but have had problems with the pidgin plugin for it. can i install the pidgin plugin for facebook manually even though i don't see it in the software center?
[18:03] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, but it wont open like that
[18:03] <dury> I have to disconnect the ide drive then it boots with sata
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: I think it still uses the Facebook IM plugin, I read before that it will use the Pidgin one
[18:04] <Plegee> Ubuntu or fedora?
[18:04] <candy> Jack_Smirnoff, i have many files saved in that format which i saved when i worked in win, now i wanna work on it in ubuntu and edit it
[18:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy I cant help with a file type I have not used.  If you cant open it in the program that wrote it in a windows machine then you have other problems
[18:04] <Trek> dury: are you able to change the boot order in BIOS?  or are you able to select what drive to boot to at the BIOS screen?
[18:05] <ezrafree> what's the best way to install a .deb?
[18:05] <Jack_Smirnoff> ezrafree double click it
[18:05] <sebsebseb> ezrafree: from the repo?
[18:05] <edeca> ezrafree: Using aptitude/apt-get, generally.  But you can use dpkg or double click
[18:05] <ezrafree> Jack_Smirnoff: when i click it asks me to either save or open with
[18:05] <blakkheim> ezrafree: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[18:05] <lungan> If I whanna do a simple script which runs sudo, and then goes into a specified folder, how do I do?
[18:05] <`mOOse`> inkscape's supposed to read/write .cdr formats though
[18:05] <Trek> dury, I spoke with one of my tech friends, it SHOULD be able to detect SATA, but you have to change the drive boot orders to boot to SATA first if that's your plan
[18:06] <ezrafree> thanks blakkheim, i'll save it and use the command
[18:06] <edeca> lungan: Write a script, use cd ?
[18:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> ezrafree have you already saved it to your desktop?
[18:06] <ezrafree> Jack_Smirnoff: not yet no
[18:06] <dury> Trek: check all bios something extrange in it
[18:06] <ezrafree> could i use a command to Open With?
[18:06] <lungan> edeca, I never wrote a script before
[18:06] <bksst> I want to thank all the people in here without questions helping those that do. A representation of the good humans can do.
[18:06] <Jack_Smirnoff> ezrafree start with that.
[18:06] <edeca> lungan: Google "basic bash scripts" then
[18:06] <Trek> what's strange with it\, dury?
[18:06] <ezrafree> jack10: ok, will do, thanks
[18:06] <sebsebseb> candy: With enough RAM and such you can virtual machine Windows for the program, also the program might work under Wine.
[18:06] <edeca> lungan: A script is just a bunch of commands in a file :)
[18:07] <militant1> is there a way to stop 70-persistent-cd.rules from making duplicate entries every time i insert a USB modem?
[18:07] <dury> Trek: can't remove a specific drive
[18:07] <dury> the ide one
[18:07] <Trek> dury: you dont need to remove it
[18:07] <lungan> edeca, Yeah, but never mind this .mkv problem I have, the only simple solution is to start using windows again
[18:07] <dury> or I'm doing something wrong
[18:07] <Trek> what BIOS do you have, dury?
[18:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> edeca there was a good ABS GUide  advanced bash scripting..  it was in our repos a long time ago
[18:07] <bdheeman> edeca: nope, it is sequence of commands
[18:08] <interrupt> how do you extend your monitor? i dont see the option under display
[18:08] <dury> Trek: how do I know it?
[18:08] <edeca> Jack_Smirnoff: That guide is where I learnt all I know :)
[18:08] <dury> Trek: drive me please
[18:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> edeca I think he gave up on the project..
[18:08] <candy> sebsebseb, isnt there any alternate software like coral draw in ubuntu??
[18:08] <Trek> dury, what make/model of computer do you own, first?
[18:09] <dury> Trek clone pc
[18:09] <dury> not model
[18:09] <sebsebseb> candy: Well there are alternative graphics programs, The GIMP, Inkscape etc, however they aren't that likely to open up a Coral Draw file I expect, since how it's a propritary format, and not that popular.
[18:09] <bdheeman> candy: inkscape, dia
[18:10] <Trek> dury: in BIOS, under "Boot" (it should be there), does it list "Hard Drive Boot Order" or something similar?
[18:10] <candy> sebsebseb, i tried opening with inkspace but i couldnt see the contents
[18:10] <candy> bdheeman, what is that dia??
[18:10] <sebsebseb> candy: Have you tired Coral Draw in Wine?
[18:11] <bdheeman> candy: an alternative to visio
[18:11] <candy> sebsebseb, nope coz i want one in ubuntu
[18:11] <dury> yeah but only says hd0 - hd1 - hd3 and so on
[18:11] <Homely_Girl> Hi anyone have experience dealing with the drivers conflict in Karmic with the Three mbb dongle, Huawei E160G?
[18:11] <Jack_Smirnoff> candy then use a NON-propietary file format
[18:11] <shubbar> Jack_Smirnoff, restarted the pc and its now working, thanks.
[18:11] <sebsebseb> candy: Wine runs in Ubuntu, and  when you open up Wine programs it's rather similar to a native app,  it just opens and you can use it
[18:11] <candy> bdheeman, are u sure i can open through it?? if yes, tel me where to get it?? software center
[18:11] <candy> ??
[18:11] <Jack_Smirnoff> shubbar glad to hear it
[18:11] <Homely_Girl> I googled this conflict 'n found some instructions I don't understand!! :(
[18:12] <candy> sebsebseb, i ll try it
[18:12] <Trek> hello Homely_Girl.  link me the instructions, please, i'll see if I can help out
[18:12] <Diverdude> If i have downloaded a set of script files for e.g. emacs, and have them in a folder....What is then the appropriate place to store this folder? Is there a place like /usr/local/bin, just for additional stuff?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> !wine | candy
[18:12] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'll paste now...thanks...
[18:12] <bdheeman> candy: no, the inscape and, or dia are not substitudes, but alternatives
[18:13] <Squideshi> Is the first splash screen that I see after grub in Ubuntu 9.10 (the one with the plain white Ubuntu logo in the center of a black screen without a progress bar) generated by grub, usplash, or something else?
[18:13] <Homely_Girl> Trek: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/1046813.html
[18:13] <dury> Trek: so what should I do... what you suggest ?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> Squideshi: that's xsplash
[18:13] <dury> check the bios
[18:13] <Trek> dury: in BIOS, under "Boot" (it should be there), does it list "Hard Drive Boot Order" or something similar?  if there is, change the order of the drives
[18:13] <candy> bdheeman, ok. so i can open .cdr document right??
[18:13] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I know I seem confident 'n clever 'n do enjoy using apt-get, I'm still basically not a geek! lol
[18:13] <Trek> dury: if there's not, then your BIOS won't let you use both
[18:14] <The_ManU_212> hi
[18:14] <Squideshi> sebsebseb: OK. Thanks. What about the one after that WITH the progress bar?
[18:14] <The_ManU_212> is it possible to view the content of a tar.bz2 file without extracting?
[18:14] <zilkomaa> Is there a way to make more space available for root ?
[18:14] <bdheeman> candy: not, dear; you need to use a comman file format
[18:14] <Jaysin> hi
[18:14] <The_ManU_212> i treid something with -X (exclude) command, but i think it doesnt weok, so i wanted to see what my archieve contains
[18:14] <sebsebseb> Squideshi: I think that's also part of xplash, but not sure,  or it's linked to GDM, since if KDM is done won't get it
[18:15] <ahmedtheghost> hello
[18:15] <dury> Trek: see what I can do... really appreciate your support... cheers
[18:15] <candy> bdheeman, tel me the command
[18:15] <ahmedtheghost> hello all
[18:15] <Squideshi> sebsebseb: Got it. Thank you very much!
[18:15] <Jack_Smirnoff> zilkomaa move the packages in var/cache/apt/archives to a dvd or another drive
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl:  wireless issue?
[18:15] <ehnde> what happened to linux-restricted-modules ? i'm trying to follow the isntructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE but there is no linux-restricted-modules-server package available
[18:15] <Jaysin> can some PM me that knows about the sudo and command lines to become super user in unbuntu 9.10
[18:15] <Trek> dury / Homely_Girl: you'll have to forgive lag in my messages, I"m semi busy at the same time
[18:15] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: You betcha!!
[18:15] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: this might be helpful
[18:16] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: I have to reinstall my dongle daily!!
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !wirelesss | Homely_Girl
[18:16] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  Homely_Girl
[18:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> Jaysin Best to keep questions and answers in the channel
[18:16] <ahmedtheghost> hello all
[18:16] <dury> Trek: don't to worry it's all right
[18:16] <Alienness> hi all
[18:16] <bdheeman> candy: I don't use coreldraw, but you may try exporting you corel file to SVG
[18:16] <ahmedtheghost> hi
[18:16] <dury> be back later cheers
[18:16] <Trek> Homely_Girl, do you use Network Manager or WICD?
[18:16] <Jaysin> ok
[18:16] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I stress over the pc am happy 2 wait!
[18:16] <dury> :)
[18:16] <sebsebseb> candy: Do you have a Windows CD/DVD?
[18:16] <Jaysin> well obviously im new to linux
[18:16] <Jaysin> lol
[18:16] <capron> zilkomaa,  yes there is , There are tools for changing partion sizes ,  But the all recomend a backup before
[18:16] <candy> sebsebseb, yep
[18:17] <sebsebseb> candy:  Which one? also how much RAM you got?
[18:17] <candy> bdheeman, how to explore that??
[18:17] <Jaysin> im trying to install programs and watch videos
[18:17] <candy> sebsebseb, ram 3 gb, win 7
[18:17] <Jaysin> programs to watch videos
[18:17] <zilkomaa> capron: yeah, but the problem is that i have only 50gig partition for linux.
[18:17] <Jaysin> VLC player
[18:17] <militant1> this is driving me nuts.  i really don't get why it's making a duplicate entry every time i insert the same usb stick
[18:18] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I think it's network manager, it's where I can see mobile b/band tab, wireless tab etc
[18:18] <Jaysin> im using synaptic pm
[18:18] <`mOOse`> sebsebseb,  I wonder if he's "opening" or "importing"
[18:18] <zilkomaa> capron, but i have available ntfs partitions that i could format ext4...
[18:18] <bdheeman> candy: *export* file?
[18:18] <Jack_Smirnoff> Jaysin  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[18:18] <daftykins> !enter | Jaysin
[18:18] <sebsebseb> candy: Wine and  Windows virtual machine's are your options,  unless you can find an alternative program that opens up your file that and is native
[18:18] <candy> bdheeman, hmm
[18:18] <Jaysin> k
[18:18] <jester5532> im having a bit problem with making my bootable cd for an upgrade from the iso
[18:19] <Trek> Homely_Girl: right click the icon for your wireless manager... hit "About'
[18:19] <candy> sebsebseb, hmmm i think i got to use wine till i find one here
[18:19] <Trek> what's its version
[18:19] <jester5532> every time im done burning it i can read the program in another computer with mac or windows on it, but when i put it in here it shows up as a blank cd
[18:19] <zilkomaa> Jack_Smirnoff: Can i safely remove those packages ?
[18:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> jester5532 right click the iso and write to cd
[18:19] <jester5532> 9.10 64 bit
[18:19] <sebsebseb> m00se whatever that character is at the begining means I can't just auto complete you, also you should be asking them not me really
[18:19] <`mOOse`> sebsebseb, inkscape is supposed to work with .cdr's
[18:20] <Homely_Girl> Trek: It's VPN Connections I click on
[18:20] <jester5532> i burned it from my computer running 9.10 32 bit as an iso, but it wouldnt read as anything but blank after burning on the same machine
[18:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> zilkomaa those are the debs you already installed, you can safely move them or put them on a cd as seen in aptoncd
[18:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> !aptoncd
[18:20] <mOOse`> sorry sebsebseb
[18:20] <capron> zilkomaa, I mayed my installation simpel one /boot 3 G one /swap,   Then one big root for the rest
[18:20] <mOOse`> but anyways....this pgm is supposed to work with corel files
[18:20] <Homely_Girl> Trek: There's no about in VPN Connections.
[18:21] <SirLoseALot> Hey guys I'm looking for a way to change the Artist in the id3 tag of multiple mp3s at once. Tried Easytag 2.1.6 but it seems it only allows editing one file at a time. Anyone know a tool?
[18:21] <edeca> SirLoseALot: I use mp3tag (a Windows program) under WINE
[18:21] <mOOse`> candy - you might try the inkscape forums
[18:21] <zilkomaa> capron: yea u made it simple
[18:21] <Trek> hm... you don't use Network Manager then I think, Homely_Girl
[18:21] <edeca> SirLoseALot: There are ways to script it
[18:21] <mOOse`> candy, http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewforum.php?f=5&sid=a63d157aa4b84811921894c7f5157802
[18:21] <ccraze> How do you flash a HDD firmware update in Ubuntu?
[18:21] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Do enlighten me how to use it then! lol
[18:21] <SirLoseALot> edeca: I'm no good at scripting - I use Ubuntu since yesterday :)
[18:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze sounds dangerous
[18:22] <SirLoseALot> edeca: Is mp3tag easy to install under wine?
[18:22] <zilkomaa> Jack_Smirnoff: Ok.
[18:22] <edeca> SirLoseALot: Yes, wine setup.exe ;)
[18:22] <ccraze> I know, Jack_Smirnoff.
[18:22] <capron> zilkomaa, you can use lvm2 partion then it is more esay too later mess around, but lvm2 do take a lot of space also
[18:22] <edeca> SirLoseALot: You might find that works well for you
[18:22] <candy> mOOse`, okei bro, i ll do. thnaks.
[18:22] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'm running Karmic btw.
[18:22] <ccraze> I'm willing to brick it if it doesn't work.
[18:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze dont hey give you a bootable cd or floppy option for that upgrade
[18:22] <sebsebseb> mOOse`: not that it matters, but  I think candy is a she
[18:22] <Trek> Homely_Girl, in command line: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[18:22] <sebsebseb> mOOse`: by the way
[18:22] <iter> ccraze: if it's a precompiled exe easiest way is to slap it in a win32 machine
[18:22] <SirLoseALot> edeca: I tried the same with teamviewer. It installs successfully but aferwards can't be started and isn't in wine's c:/programs/ oO
[18:22] <Trek> Homely_Girl, ah
[18:23] <SirLoseALot> edeca: Any idea what might be going on?
[18:23] <daftykins> ccraze: most firmwares require DOS boot disks of that nature. ask yourself if the firmware update is really necessary.
[18:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze is this a firmware to make your system see a large drive?
[18:23] <Trek> Homely_Girl, perhaps NetworkManager doesn't work there...
[18:23] <candy> sebsebseb, yep
[18:23] <zilkomaa> capron: Is it good program?
[18:23] <mOOse`> sebsebseb, everybody's a 12 yr old girl on the internet :-)
[18:23] <edeca> SirLoseALot: Some programs simply don't work.  I have never used that one, sorry
[18:23] <candy> sebsebseb, how did  u know??
[18:23] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Done
[18:23] <zilkomaa> should "quota -v" command show freespace
[18:23] <Trek> Homely_Girl, you might need to restart to load it, that will give you access to network cards and info
[18:24] <sebsebseb> candy: I don't think many guys would call themselves candy on IRC,  good IRC nick by the way
[18:24] <xerox1> hi, i am a bit unhappy with fspot; so i am looking for alternatives; any recommendations?
[18:24] <candy> mOOse`, that was just an expression dont think it seriously.. just came and typed
[18:24] <jduke128> hi , i m having problem on my ubuntu when i press alt + left click moves window but i want to disable that shortcut key
[18:24] <edeca> zilkomaa: df -h perhaps?
[18:24] <Trek> Homely_Girl, your drivers might not be included as well, i'll keep reading the page you provided.
[18:24] <SirLoseALot> edeca: actually, it does work, even without installation. I am just confused about it installing correctly but then not showing in c:. Anyways, I'll try mp3 tag now, hopefully you're still here if something goes wrong :(
[18:24] <candy> sebsebseb, thanks:-)
[18:24] <Trek> Homely_Girl, in the mean time, you might reboot
[18:24] <edeca> zilkomaa: quota only shows user quotas
[18:24] <jduke128> how can i disable that shortcut please help!
[18:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> xerox1 try gthumb
[18:24] <SirLoseALot> i mean :)
[18:24] <zilkomaa> edeca: :D
[18:24] <ccraze> Okay, I'll level with you all.  I'm looking for a way to load a flashing utility that won't check the existing firmware on the drive so that I can cross flash a drive to report that it's an official 'branded' model instead of the OEM model.  This is for personal use and I won't be selling it.
[18:24] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I have access to that thru the Administration menu under "Network Tools"
[18:24] <capron> zilkomaa, lvm2 is interesting ,  you can do a lot like taking a backup and resize partion even if it is mounted and in use
[18:24] <jduke128> hi , i m having problem on my ubuntu when i press alt + left click moves window but i want to disable that shortcut key , i need to disable shortcut pls help
[18:24] <jduke128> hi , i m having problem on my ubuntu when i press alt + left click moves window but i want to disable that shortcut key , i need to disable shortcut pls help
[18:24] <mOOse`> candy - I know - it's cool :-)
[18:24] <xerox1> Jack_Smirnoff, thx will give it a try
[18:24] <edeca> ccraze: Most of those only work under Windows, unfortunately
[18:25] <iter> ccraze: what's the utility
[18:25] <capron> zilkomaa, but relly not needid just for a desktop user
[18:25] <ccraze> That's what I'm looking for.
[18:25] <Homely_Girl> Trek: rebooting, back as soon as I can manage to reconnect! ;)
[18:25] <iter> ccraze: for a raid array? or xbox :)
[18:25] <candy> mOOse`, ok. thanks for ur help dude. good night. got to sleep :-)
[18:25] <mOOse`> candy :-)
[18:25] <ccraze> iter: A raid array.
[18:25] <sebsebseb> xerox1:  of course, but I can't think of the one they useaully recommend instead,  but if I ask some where else, I guess they will tell me :D so hold on
[18:25] <iter> ccraze: do you have a copy of the firmware you want to load?
[18:25] <candy> mOOse`, :-)
[18:26] <ccraze> iter: Yes.
[18:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> ccraze it is for the drive and not your cmos-bios right?
[18:26] <iter> ccraze: how did you acquire it? some dump utility?
[18:26] <ccraze> Jack_Smirnoff: Right.
[18:26] <SirLoseALot> edeca: It says there's an update available. Can I simply download & install it from within the program?
[18:27] <ccraze> iter: I got it from support.dell.com, but if you know a good dump utility, I'd feel better about dumping the firmware from the existing other drive.
[18:27] <iter> Jack_Smirnoff, ccraze: yeah some raid arrays (ahem, xserve) want a specific firmware on the drive
[18:27] <raven> sysresccd how to MOUND a TRUECRYPT partition?
[18:27] <edeca> SirLoseALot: I've never tried that, it might work!
[18:27] <sebsebseb> xerox1: yep I was told else where :)  gthumb
[18:27] <edeca> SirLoseALot: But equally it might not.
[18:27] <capron> zilkomaa,  did you run out of space for root ? even if it was around 50G
[18:27] <vinse> in order to get my network connection to work, i had to explicitly set my ip (via ifconfig), dns server (via editing /etc/resolv.conf) and router (via route add).  these setting disappear when i restart, how do i make them persistent?
[18:27] <SirLoseALot> edeca: Well, I feel adventurous :p
[18:27] <edeca> raven: Install truecrypt from www.truecrypt.org ?
[18:27] <xerox1> sebsebseb, thx
[18:27] <edeca> SirLoseALot: It probably wont break it ;)
[18:27] <Guest47678> ola
[18:28] <sebsebseb> xerox1: np
[18:28] <iter> ccraze: you would probably be best off trying to crack the flashing utility
[18:28] <SirLoseALot> (getting Ubuntu to boot from my external hdd was an adventure all by itself, anyways)
[18:28] <iter> ccraze: remove the check there and it should work
[18:28] <raven> sysresccd how to MOUND a TRUECRYPT partition?
[18:28] <raven> edeca, its with the system
[18:28] <iter> ccraze: we could start writing to the firmware on your new drive willy-nilly but that has a low chance of success
[18:28] <edeca> raven: So run truecrypt and use the GUI
[18:28] <Guest47678> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa luis
[18:28] <semi> olaaaaaaaa
[18:29] <ccraze> iter: Yeah, I'm willing to brick one or two of these.
[18:29] <|WolF|> question: when ever i try to do ./configure i get this: ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied
[18:29] <ccraze> iter: I got a good deal so I bought more than one.
[18:29] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.
[18:29] <Jack_Smirnoff> !pinning
[18:29] <ccraze> iter: It was $60 per 750GB drive.
[18:30] <iter> and they're like 400/ea from dell :)
[18:30] <ccraze> Exactly.
[18:30] <jrib> allowoverride: new kernel packages come in because you have some meta package like linux-image-generic (from memory) installed
[18:30] <allowoverride> i remember in YUM you could put parameters in the config to skip the kernel, so this is the case for apt-get update
[18:30] <allowoverride> jrib: ok, continue
[18:30] <natrixnatrix89> whats the command in terminal to shut down computer?
[18:30] <Der> Hi, i have a MAJOR DISASTER, all users on my system cannont login anymore....pliz help
[18:30] <jrib> allowoverride: so remove the package....  It's a terrible idea though, why would you want to do it?
[18:30] <capron> SirLoseALot, Hehe geting windows to boot from external is kind of mission impossibel.
[18:30] <allowoverride> i want to
[18:31] <Der> natrixnatrix89, shutdown -s
[18:31] <natrixnatrix89> Der: tanks
[18:31] <iter> ccraze: what drive model?
[18:31] <SirLoseALot> capron: I'm on a Installation that does exactly that right now :)
[18:31] <allowoverride> kinda like, why would any ever want to do a custom kernel
[18:31] <Der> natrixnatrix89, welcome
[18:31] <SirLoseALot> capron: Was a major pain to get going, though
[18:31] <jrib> allowoverride: I understand that you want to.  Not *why*
[18:31] <SirLoseALot> took me two days
[18:31] <jazz> anyone using docky? the one split off gnome do?
[18:31] <jrib> allowoverride: it's not like that at all
[18:31] <ccraze> iter: ST3750641S is the OEM
[18:31] <allowoverride> i dont have time to explain it all
[18:31] <allowoverride> i just need to know what i asked
[18:32] <Der> people please this is MAJOR, all users on my system cannont login anymore....pliz help...
[18:32] <jrib> allowoverride: that's fine.  Take it under advisement I think it's a terrible idea
[18:32] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.
[18:32] <arand> !anyone | jazz
[18:32] <capron> SirLoseALot, I faild in it I and tryed hard ,  Cud only get bartpe too boot from a usb ,
[18:32] <ccraze> iter: The Dell model is ST3750640S.
[18:32] <jrib> allowoverride: I just told you how to do so for the kernel...
[18:32] <SirLoseALot> edeca: mp3tag works great, does exactly what I wanted - Thanks a lot :)
[18:32] <allowoverride> when i check for updates, it always says, new kernel image. i do not wish to keep switching kernels like weekly lol
[18:32] <allowoverride> jrib: you hinted, not said exactly k
[18:33] <allowoverride> this is what i am asking EXACTLY
[18:33] <Myrtti> Der: you're not giving too much information about your problem
[18:33] <Trek> allowoverride: i've got a ton of kernel updates often... weekly...
[18:33] <jrib> allowoverride: read the changelogs, they happen for a reason.  I did say exactly
[18:33] <edeca> SirLoseALot: It is an awesome program
[18:33] <allowoverride> im not going to just remove a kernel
[18:33] <Trek> allowoverride: i deal with it, unfortunately
[18:33] <allowoverride> Trek: yah i know
[18:33] <jrib> allowoverride: I didn't say to remove a kernel
[18:33] <SirLoseALot> capron: It's not worth it, anyways. The only reason to use Windows would be for gaming, imo - in which case an external is not exactly the kind of speed you're looking for
[18:33] <allowoverride> Trek:  you dont have to thats my point
[18:33] <SirLoseALot> Was more of a... uhm... educational project
[18:33] <jrib> allowoverride: if you want a secure system, you do
[18:33] <Myrtti> yeah, security updates are such a pain in the neck! Why should we update kernels all the time, phooey!
[18:33] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.  HERE READ THIS before commenting
[18:33] <Trek> allowoverride: you want to be a walking security risk?  the kernel updates update to include SECURITY UPDATES
[18:33] <|WolF|> question: when ever i try to do ./configure i get this: ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied | the user from wich i am trying is just in users group, should i add it in some other group, to can install for ex. bnc's eggdrop etc
[18:34] <Myrtti> no, seriously. keep your systems updated
[18:34] <allowoverride> jrib: either you know the syntax or yout dont. stop repeating yourself
[18:34] <jazz> how do i install it from the ppa again? im on this page https://edge.launchpad.net/~docky-core/+archive/ppa
[18:34] <Der> Myrtti, its a long story, i tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[
[18:34] <capron> SirLoseALot, Hope you get it too work ,  I tried hard windwos xp sp 3 ,  Might bee better luck with windows 7
[18:34] <seccoleo> ciao
[18:34] <christopherdstam> |WoIF|: try sudo
[18:35] <allowoverride> how do i from the command line or config file EXCLUDE the kernel in apt-get update, or any file for that matter.  i have custom configs specific to one kernel. I do not want things to mess up.... please stop asking me why,, and what is the syntax.....
[18:35] <jrib> allowoverride: stop repeating your question so often
[18:35] <dury> hi
[18:35] <arand> jazz: on karmic?
[18:35] <jazz> i click the arrow  technicle details about this  ppa .
[18:35] <jazz> arand,  yep sorry  9.10
[18:35] <allowoverride> jrib: either you know or you dont
[18:35] <allowoverride> obviously you dont
[18:35] <jrib> allowoverride: that's irrelevant to what I said.
[18:35] <capron> SirLoseALot,   You are right for heard is a bad ide to run it external ,  But still ubuntu runs good that way or ?
[18:36] <iter> allowoverride: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=259280
[18:36] <dury> hi there again channel :)
[18:36] <iter> allowoverride: 5 secs on google
[18:36] <allowoverride> jrib: i dont wish to answer all your questions...
[18:36] <dury> success
[18:36] <dury> :)
[18:36] <jrib> allowoverride: I'm not asking a question.  I'm telling you to not repeat your question every 10 seconds.
[18:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> !attitude > allowoverride
[18:36] <allowoverride> iter:  whats thatas
[18:36] <arand> jazz: and you've added the ppa line to your software sources?
[18:36] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:36] <dury> Trek: was right it was the order of booting
[18:36] <etsorbme8> I am trying to run two instances of squid on my ubuntu box (squid3) and I am having config probs http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a8d5bf1
[18:37] <Trek> dury: thats what I thought, I had that happen on my custom build
[18:37] <iter> allowoverride: the answer to your question you wanker :)
[18:37] <Trek> dury: i messed with boot order, then it WORKS
[18:37] <jazz> arand,  not yet, thats what im asking, how to?
[18:37] <allowoverride> wtf is ubutto talking to me for....
[18:37] <sipher> Hi, Im trying to get evolution working with exchange. I am unable to create an account using the Microsoft Exchange option. no matter what it sez authentication failed... I've tied every combination possible =/ still no dice
[18:37] <|WolF|> from what comes this? ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied
[18:37] <dury> Trek: really appreciate your support.. believe me
[18:37] <Trek> !language | iter
[18:38] <Trek> dury, no problem dude
[18:38] <Jack_Smirnoff> allowoverride to get you to try and watch your attitude and stop being rude
[18:38] <arand> jazz: You've got the software sources open (admin menu..)
[18:38] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Did u miss me!!?? :P
[18:38] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:38] <Trek> Homely_Girl, welcome back
[18:38] <tom_fishy> I am just about to create a virtual drive for ubuntu. how big should the disk be? I know this depands on alot of stuff but approxmatily if I want to test it out and don't run out of space
[18:38] <Trek> Homely_Girl, is the system detecting the card yet?
[18:38] <jazz> arand,  yep
[18:38] <iter> tom_fishy: 10-20gb is fine
[18:38] <Homely_Girl> Trek: 2 reboots 'n one reinstall later I could get online. Wot card?
[18:38] <Trek> sorry, the USB thingy, Homely_Girl
[18:39] <Trek> its working now?
[18:39] <tom_fishy> iter ok cool will go with 20 then
[18:39] <sipher> Does anyone have exchange working in Evolution?
[18:39] <sipher> =/
[18:39] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:39] <arand> jazz: in the 3rd party software tab just add the line "ppa:docky-core/ppa"
[18:39] <Homely_Girl> Trek: It's always recognised it, but I have to delete 'n reinstall too many time a day that I care to remember!! :(
[18:39] <deostroll> !xlib
[18:40] <deostroll> does any1 know what is xlib?
[18:40] <Trek> Homely_Girl: perhaps the issue lies in Karmic...
[18:40] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:40] <arand> jazz: sorry, "other software" tab instead
[18:40] <Der> is this place any gd ! =[
[18:40] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Like I can be online all day 'n then suddenly I've lost connection 'n have to delete, reboot, reinstall, reboot....
[18:40] <allowoverride> Jack_Smirnoff: do you know the syntax for apt-get update where by to exclude kernels or images from being ever checked?
[18:40] <jazz> arand,  what about these from the page
[18:40] <Homely_Girl> Trek: And sometimes delete 'n reboot again! :(
[18:40] <jazz> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/docky-core/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[18:40] <jazz> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/docky-core/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[18:40] <sipher> major bummer. too bad ubuntu can NEVER get evolution and exchange working constitantly. Ive never had it just work. I think im going back to XP..this is not acceptable for a business user.
[18:40] <iter> !troll | allowoverride
[18:40] <jose> Hi everyone, I got a question: How can I edit the sudoers list from a non-sudo user. Right now I'm remotely logged in to a PC logged in as a non-sudo and there's a user which is sudo and I can't logout-login (remotely) any help?
[18:41] <capron> Der, dont spam
[18:41] <allowoverride> !troll | iter
[18:41] <allowoverride> dick
[18:41] <fsgsfahbt> FINALY
[18:41] <iter> allowoverride: I answered your question, as did others
[18:41] <deostroll> xlib??? any1?
[18:41] <trism> allowoverride: man 5 apt_preferences; it will tell you how to pin packages, so you don't get updates
[18:41] <|WolF|> from what comes this? ./configure.lineno: line 141: /dev/null: Permission denied <=?????????
[18:41] <Trek> Homely_Girl, you ever considered using sudo ifconfig InterfaceIDGoesHere down up ?
[18:41] <Trek> !language | allowoverride
[18:41] <sipher> |WolF| run it as root..
[18:41] <Jack_Smirnoff> allowoverride THe only way I know of keeping one revision over another is pinning as I posed long ago.  Not to mention what you are doing is silly and not in your best interest
[18:41] <allowoverride> ah.. thats it,, apt_prefs
[18:41] <allowoverride> thats what i was looking for, a clue something, so i can try reading,,,
[18:42] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'm sure I would consider it if I'd a.) heard of it, and b.) knew wtf it was??? lol
[18:42] <Der> capron, WHAT!, wheres the part where i spammed, i have a problem, and am frustrated, if you can help --- help, if you cant than i'd prefer you keep ur comments to urself
[18:42] <allowoverride> Jack_Smirnoff: ?
[18:42] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I am putty in your hands.....mould me! lol
[18:42] <trism> |WolF|: check the permissions on /dev/null, they should be readable and writable by everyone. if not you may need to check your udev rules
[18:42] <sipher> Der we don't need to see you problem every 2 seconds.
[18:42] <deostroll> anyone know about the stuff that i need to get started with x programming?
[18:42] <|WolF|> sipher i know that but i should be able to run ./configure on eggdrop and simple things ...
[18:42] <sipher> Der please consider other people use the chat...
[18:42] <Trek> Homely_Girl: command line: ifconfig -a
[18:42] <Trek> pastebin results please
[18:42] <allowoverride> w?hats is pinning
[18:42] <sipher> |WolF| I'm assuming your user doesn't have access to /dev/null ?
[18:42] <jazz> Aragon,  i see it now ok, so i need the full path for the ppa?
[18:42] <edeca> Trek: I much prefer `ip addr` :)
[18:43] <Der> sipher, i paste the msg, when the old one is out of the buffer...
[18:43] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:43] <sipher> Der exactly...
[18:43] <sipher> Der its anoying.
[18:43] <blakkheim> !repeat | der
[18:43] <Trek> hey, how do i clear the IPv6 cache of IPs my Desktop has received?
[18:43] <zilkomaa> capron: I did a mistake with installing linux only gave 10gigs for root
[18:43] <fsgsfahbt> alright i need help, i went to grub 2 after restart, choosed recovery mode, waiting, choosed "resume", tried to login with my nickname XYZ and my password nice123tree. btw these aren't mine but anyway i didn't worked, i just failed why? how can i fix it? i can still go to "root" instead "resume" BUT i don't want to be root in recovery shell. plz help
[18:43] <christopherdstam> member:%7CWolF%7C: did u run it as root?
[18:43] <edeca> sipher: Users should _always_ have access to char special devices like /dev/null
[18:43] <iter> ccraze: that firmware flash is going to be very difficult without custom software
[18:43] <|WolF|> sipher how to add/check access to /dev/null?
[18:43] <deostroll> ! x programming
[18:43] <arand> jazz: That's if you want to do it (more) manually, and/or don't have karmic (since jaunty won't accept the ppa:*** syntax)
[18:43] <sipher> edeca agree..
[18:43] <Trek> edeca: i'm looking for the ifconfig info :P
[18:43] <Homely_Girl> !pastebin
[18:43] <deostroll> !x
[18:43] <Trek> hey, how do i clear the IPv6 cache of IPs my Desktop has received?
[18:43] <edeca> Trek: What specifically from ifconfig that isn't present? :)
[18:43] <Homely_Girl> !pastebin Homely_Girl
[18:43] <edeca> Trek: The MAC address cache?
[18:43] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: those three letters count as swearing here by the way, and swearing is against the channel rules
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> holy shit so many users
[18:44] <sipher> so Exchange is just broken on ubuntu? Ditch it?
[18:44] <dury> have to go channel :-) thanks again cheers
[18:44] <Trek> !languate | fsgsfahbt
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> i better go xubuntu
[18:44] <Der> sipher, BlackBinary , it depends on ur resolution, mine is 800*600 dont blame me if ur  monitor is a TV screen
[18:44] <Trek> !language | fsgsfahbt
[18:44] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: I apologise.....did not mean offence
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> !language
[18:44] <Trek> hey, how do i clear the IPv6 cache of IPs my Desktop has received?
[18:44] <fsgsfahbt> sry
[18:44] <etsorbme8> ! difference between squid squid3
[18:44] <sipher> Der, the point is...people see it...you don't need to repeat it every 2 seconds.
[18:44] <zilkomaa> capron: And for /home directory i gave 30gigs
[18:44] <edeca> Trek: Which cache?
[18:44] <edeca> Trek: The MAC address cache?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: you didn't offend me
[18:45] <Trek> edeca: i've got a huge lsit of IPv6 addys listed for my device under ifconfig
[18:45] <Trek> edeca: any way to clear them all and get only one listed there?
[18:45] <Der> sipher, oh ....so how often shud i ""attempt""  to get noticed here ?
[18:45] <nyaa> hi, I was looking for an elegant way to save all the stuff that happens in a certain terminal session.  Maybe a command you can type to open a new one that is logged or just to log that one
[18:45] <edeca> Trek: Oh, I see.
[18:45] <zilkomaa> capron: And i just checked it wasnt 50gigs it is 42gigs to whole ubuntu. i thought i dont need more than that..
[18:45] <jose> anyone?
[18:45] <Trek> edeca: or better yet, deactivate IPv6 altogether
[18:45] <jose> Hi everyone, I got a question: How can I edit the sudoers list from a non-sudo user. Right now I'm remotely logged in to a PC logged in as a non-sudo and there's a user which is sudo and I can't logout-login (remotely)?
[18:45] <jazz> Aragon,  i see, now its added then close and reload?
[18:45] <Der> hi ii tried installing pure-ftpd, i made ftp accounts accidentally in the home directory, where one of the pc users username was the same as the ftp username, which ended up screwing up my system =[ and now no one can login at all, i get many errors, and the home directories are encrypted, so someone help pliz
[18:45] <Jack_Smirnoff> Der every 2 minutes is plenty often enough
[18:45] <Der> :O
[18:45] <|WolF|> trism: this is what i get crw------- 1 root root 1, 3 Feb 4 23:30 /dev/null
[18:46] <Homely_Girl> sebsebseb: I would've thought as we're all adults 'n it was merely an abbreviation 'n is something I would say to most ppl in person.....but I'll button my lip. ;)
[18:46] <Hilikus> hey guys
[18:46] <Der> Jack_Smirnoff, nobody ever scrolls up...
[18:46] <Homely_Girl> Trek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/373414/
[18:46] <sipher> Der then assume noboyd is going to help :p
[18:46] <sebsebseb> Homely_Girl: no this channel has people from  probably nearly every countrey in the world, and loads of differnet ages
[18:46] <sipher> Der go post on a forum
[18:46] <Jack_Smirnoff> Der Please dont repeat it every time it scrolls off the screen.
[18:46] <Hilikus> after playing music for a while, the sound crashes and starts producing low crackling noises
[18:46] <Hilikus> and i get this in syslog
[18:46] <Hilikus> snd_pcm_delay() returned a value that is exceptionally large: 288230376152478580 bytes (34857794483 ms).
[18:46] <Hilikus> Feb 10 13:34:36 hilikus-pc pulseaudio[1677]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'.
[18:47] <Trek> Homely_Girl: when the system disconnects, try using sudo ifconfig ppp0 down up
[18:47] <Trek> Homely_Girl, that should restart the card
[18:47] <Trek> Homely_Girl, that should restart the device*
[18:47] <jazz> Aragon,  thank you sovermuch, good day. :)
[18:47] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Pause plse, phone call!
[18:47] <Der> sipher, Jack_Smirnoff, i hate forums, they never get answerd, maybe 1 thread ever 500, so xchat is my only hopeless yet desparate chance, so....
[18:48] <Lint01> where does linux store environment variables?
[18:48] <sipher> Der have respect. thats the point.
[18:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> Der If this is your only way to get an answer, then you should probably obey the chanel rules.. eh?
[18:48] <jrib> Lint01: why?
[18:48] <jazz> arand, sent the thanks to the wrong  nick.  thanks for the help. ill learn this yet. :)
[18:48] <sipher> Lint01 they are set during the login process.
[18:48] <trism> |WolF|: yeah, that is wrong, you can fix it temporarily with sudo chmod 666 /dev/null; but you should probably investigate to figure out why they were set incorrectly
[18:48] <Homely_Girl> Trek: So the command is "sudo ifconfig ppp0 down up" correct?
[18:49] <sipher> ./etc/profile
[18:49] <Trek> Homely_Girl, that should restart the device, since its the only one with an IP
[18:49] <anarkissed> hey all
[18:49] <arand> jazz: np, glad to help, (hope Arago isn't grumphy ;)
[18:49] <Der> sipher, Jack_Smirnoff, wtv...plus i know the channel rules, peeps keep repeating them everytime, thnx 4 ur time and info...
[18:49] <Lint01> so when I'm using varios gnome utilities they just change that file?
[18:49] <Trek> Homely_Girl, my system is an Intel wifi card, it d/cs and won't reconnect until the card is rebooted (my command though is sudo ifconfig wlan0 down up)
[18:49] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Would it help if I gave u a screen shot of the "configure VPN?
[18:49] <jazz> arand,  maybe not still wished him a good day lol. laters
[18:49] <sipher> Lint01 no..
[18:50] <anarkissed> anyone had issues with installing realtek 8191 wlan drivers?
[18:50] <iter> Der: boot from CD, mount filesystems, remove pure-ftpd, check pam.d
[18:50] <sipher> Lint01 Hehe...then you would want to check gconf-editor
[18:50] <|WolF|> trism thanks a lot ( sudo chmod a+r /dev/null sudo chmod a+w /dev/null <==i did this and it worked
[18:50] <Trek> it might, Homely_Girl
[18:50] <SirLoseALot> capron: Sorry, was away - anyways, yes, Ubuntu run's extremely well. Even stuff like 3d games etc, no trouble at all. Lots of Ram might help
[18:50] <Homely_Girl> unpause
[18:50] <capron> zilkomaa, Hope you can fix it,  I guess the simpel way is to buy a new disk
[18:50] <Der> iter, i already removed pureftpd, but it seems it has left some side effects
[18:50] <sipher> edeca see ;) It was stupid /dev/null
[18:51] <Der> iter, i can tell u the  errors i get at login
[18:51] <lupita> esto k es?
[18:51] <iter> Der: yes, pastebin
[18:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> !es
[18:51] <trism> |WolF|: you're welcome, sorry I always think in octal with permissions
[18:51] <benji__> Hi, Which is the current best solution for VM ? vmware ? virtualbox ?
[18:51] <jrib> !away > hipe
[18:51] <sebsebseb> benji__: depends
[18:51] <sipher> benji__ preference...I like vmware...
[18:51] <sebsebseb> benji__: for ah ome user though, I think  Virtualbox
[18:51] <zilkomaa> capron: i have ntfs partition in this same disk just have to resize it and format one partition to ext4 thats it
[18:52] <christopherdstam> benji__: VirtualBox is way better. Seamless mode, it's free,,
[18:52] <sebsebseb> benji__: Virtualbox is way more popular in here than VMware
[18:52] <sipher> christopherdstam assuming you're not using it in a coorporate env.
[18:52] <anarkissed> I have an "unclaimed" wifi adapter in lshw anyone had this problem?
[18:52] <iter> I use virtualbox for desktop VM, VMWare ESXi for server
[18:52] <sipher> iter yes :>
[18:53] <sipher> ESXi is tasty
[18:53] <capron> SirLoseALot, Nice too hear that linux is better then windows too run like that.
[18:53] <vinse> i just changed to get a static ip (added  iface eth0 inet static ot /etc/network/interfaces) but when i restarted and did ifconfig, eth0 didnt show up at all.  then i did ifconfig eth0 inet 192.xxx... and everything was find.  how do i get it so eth0 exists on start up :x
[18:53] <Der> iter,  1: could not update ICEAuthority File, 2: there is a problem with the configuration server (/usr/lib/libgconf2.4/gconf-sanity-check2 exited with error code 256), 3: Nautilus could not create the /home/user/desktop folder and /home/user/.nautilus
[18:53] <benji__> all right I ll try virtualbox since i never user that
[18:54] <sebsebseb> benji__: if you want USB support get it from the web server
[18:54] <capron> zilkomaa, will you make this ntfs partion your new root ?
[18:54] <sebsebseb> benji__: if you don't  then the open source version is fine,  that's in the repo
[18:54] <Der> iter, my home dir is encrypted, and even when i login in using xTerm, i cant see my home folder,
[18:54] <sebsebseb> benji__: and this factoid should be changed, both are free as in price
[18:54] <benji__> sebsebseb, I ll try opensource version
[18:54] <sebsebseb> !virtualbox |  benji__
[18:55] <iter> der: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=949750
[18:56] <iter> der: have you tried the ctrl-alt-f1 followed by sudo service gdm restart?
[18:56] <Der> iter, no
[18:56] <christopherdstam> 'service' doesn't work on debian, no?
[18:56] <Der> iter, plus its not just that , i totally messed up configurations in my home dir
[18:57] <Der> iter, thats why i get more errors
[18:57] <iter> Der: read that thread I pasted, it appears to describe your problem
[18:58] <Der> iter, ill try it and come back to u
[18:58] <zilkomaa> capron: damn good point didnt think about that..is there anyway to add more root disk space, or is it hard to make new root from ntfs space that i have for this disk space problem?
[18:58] <Trek> how do I prevent my system from auto-mapping my IPs into inet6 addresses?
[18:58] <bob-has-an-imgb1>  is it normal that num-pad does not work in shell?
[18:58] <k0d3g3ar> Is there any simple graphical add-on to Network Manager that allows me to quickly change the network configuration for my laptop as I move from client site to client site?
[18:59] <waldi_> siema
[18:59] <jonzbcc> hello, I'm having trouble enabling apache (Server Side Includes) -- does anyone know why I might not be able to use them? I'm reading this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html#configuringyourservertopermitssi
[18:59] <waldi_> jest tu ktoś? : D
[18:59] <sebsebseb> !pl | waldi_
[18:59] <jonzbcc> I've placed the necessary directives in my .htaccess, and I've enabled (and restarted apache) the mod_include
[19:00] <Der> iter, there si a problem, my home dirs are encrypted, and they dont mount properly anymore
[19:00] <waldi_> joint #ubuntu-pl
[19:00] <waldi_> join #ubuntu.pl
[19:00] <Der> iter, so i cant even access the ICEauthority file....
[19:00] <Trek> waldi_: /join #ubuntu-pl
[19:00] <waldi_> thx : )
[19:00] <capron> zilkomaa,  I think it will work did it on a gentoo system before. Then I copyed the data in root to then new system and made some changes in grub
[19:01] <jonzbcc> no one's familiar with apache SSI?
[19:01] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: Isn't that just PHP?
[19:01] <DexterLB> hi
[19:01] <DexterLB> holy shit
[19:02] <almu> hola
[19:02] <sebsebseb> !language |  DexterLB
[19:02] <sebsebseb> !es | almu
[19:02] <Trek> how do I prevent my system from auto-mapping my IPs into inet6 addresses?
[19:02] <nyaa> is there an easy way to log everything that is typed into a terminal?
[19:02] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: no, its not related to PHP. PHP is a scripting language, a separate entity from Apache, both as software and in functionality.
[19:03] <vinse> this is the first channel i've seen on freenode with a family-friendly language policy.  not judging just pointing it out
[19:03] <Homely_Girl> Trek: When will I remember that closing this program means I lose what I've copied!! What was that "up down" command again?
[19:03] <dagny_ta1gart> Trek:  type "history" no quotes
[19:03] <Trek> Homely_Girl: sudo ifconfig ppp0 down up
[19:03] <inkjetunit> hello
[19:03] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/howto/ssi.html
[19:03] <DexterLB> I have a ~/torrents folder which occupies 100%+several bytes of the disk space, and all software reports that I have no free diskspace left. But fdisk -l shows that that's not the case, and the problem is that ~/torrents is actually a symlink that points to a big folder on another filesystem (smbfs)
[19:04] <capron> zilkomaa,  If u do this root copying --one-file-system is a god option
[19:04] <Homely_Girl> Trek:Thank you.....so I need 2 disconnect first right?
[19:04] <DexterLB> how do I fix the false readings?
[19:04] <Trek> nyaa: type "history" no quotes
[19:04] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: thank you, but that's what I just linked to in my first question. I just read the whole article (a couple times, now)
[19:04] <nyaa> Trek, thanks
[19:04] <Trek> Homely_Girl: use that when you disconnect, it should refresh your device
[19:04] <nyaa> Trek is there a limit to how far back that wil go?
[19:04] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Thanks brains
[19:04] <Trek> dont know, nyaa
[19:04] <Trek> how do I prevent my system from auto-mapping my IPs into inet6 addresses?
[19:05] <Testfunc23> hello: i try to chainload my windows 7 from grub, but instead of starting the windows bootmanager it just loops back to grub
[19:05] <nyaa> Trek, blast.
[19:05] <dagny_ta1gart> nyaa:  HISTSIZE variable in .bash_profile
[19:05] <inkjetunit> i'm not too happy with 9.10's performance on a dualcore box. would it be PITA to use 3rd party packaged kernel? all the drivers are okay
[19:06] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: for some reason, after enabling the appropriate module (mod_include) and inserting the proper directives to .htaccess (mentioned in the beginning of the article)  -- I still have no success. It _does_ say, however, in the beginning of the article, that "Note that most configurations contain multiple Options directives that can override each other. "
[19:06] <inkjetunit> it's been a while since i used linux the last time. things have changed a bit :P
[19:06] <inkjetunit> s/changed/advanced/
[19:06] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: still, I don't know where to start, to tackle what might be overriding what
[19:06] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: try putting in in ur hhtpd.conf rather than htaccess
[19:07] <Trek> no problem, Homely_Girl
[19:07] <jonzbcc> my apache2.conf is the only file with content in it, whereas my httpd.conf is empty (0 bytes) -- is that abnormal?
[19:07] <MenZa> jonzbcc: Nope.
[19:07] <antonio6> oi
[19:08] <jonzbcc> MenZa: I have no problem reinstalling apache2 -- would that be the easiest way (as I clearly have something funky going on?
[19:08] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc:  try it
[19:08] <antonio6> oi  gatinha  tudo  bem
[19:08] <zilkomaa> capron: OK.
[19:08] <jonzbcc> MenZa:  -- oh, you said _nope_ to "is that _abnormal_?" -- so, nothing seems funky about my server then? .. okay
[19:08] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: then make sure nothing in either config file is overrrding it
[19:08] <christopherdstam> 
[19:08] <capron> inkjetunit,   I also try too get some more speed form 9.10  ,  I now am about to try my compiled kernel with pentium insteed of i586
[19:09] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: that's the first thing I checked, but its a pretty heafty file, I don't know what would override it
[19:09] <MenZa> jonzbcc: httpd.conf has always been empty on my Apache installs :)=
[19:09] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: yes, debian uses apache2.conf
[19:09] <aief> http://worldtv.com/israel_in_eurovision/
[19:10] <jonzbcc> MenZa: thanks (I only ask, because I have a httpd.conf and an httpd.conf.orig , which could _only_ mean that at one time it actually had content, that I felt was necessary to backup)
[19:10] <christopherdstam> jobzbcc: so put that option in there, in addition to the htaccess
[19:10] <zilkomaa> Is it true that there is no need for swap if system has 2gb of memory?
[19:10] <nashequilibrium> ok
[19:10] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: lol, I did that too (its in my apache2.conf and my .htaccess)
[19:10] <inkjetunit> zilkomaa: i'd recommend swap for that amount of ram
[19:10] <Homely_Girl> Trek: Don't think that did anything.....I ran it b4 I disconnected 'n got an error trying it after disconnection 'n then had to delete 'n reinstall the connection in VPN to connect again.
[19:10] <jrib> zilkomaa: no, that depends on what you do with your computer and whether or not you want to hibernate
[19:10] <inkjetunit> zilkomaa: atleast on desktop use
[19:10] <Der> iter, are you still there, as i told you i have encrypted home dirs, they must be mounted first, and they dont auto mount anymore, another problem =[
[19:11] <iter> zilkomaa: it's unlikely that it will be used but you do require a swap partition
[19:11] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: to be clear, its actually the last directive in the file, so I'm assuming the config file gets read top-down
[19:11] <MenZa> jonzbcc: Ah :)
[19:11] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I don't wanna go Windoze, but am so frustrated! :(
[19:11] <capron> zilkomaa,  No  a swap is kind of allways recommended ,  But not if you have a SDD
[19:11] <Trek> interesting, Homely_Girl.  i'm not sure why it would be doing that
[19:11] <christopherdstam> jonzbcc: check this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/mod/core.html#options  and make sure that ur not using any options that would override it
[19:11] <anarkissed> yer tellin me.... i cant get a wireless card to work fo the life of me
[19:11] <Trek> i'm out of options, Homely_Girl, unfortunately i'm going to hand this off to someone else
[19:11] <jonzbcc> MenZa: and--- oddly enough, _both_ the original and current files are 0 bytes (you'd think that at least my .orig version would have content
[19:11] <bob-has-an-imgb1> thx everyone linux works fine now so far
[19:12] <Der> iter, are you there?
[19:12] <Homely_Girl> Trek: I'll try that command if it ever seems to have knocked itself offline! :) Thanks for your help hon!
[19:12] <zilkomaa> Ok just curious, i have 2gb memory and have 2g swap is that bad? =)
[19:12] <iter> Der: yes, mount it as per this: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/03/mounting-your-encrypted-home-from.html\
[19:12] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: thanks, I'm reading it now.
[19:12] <iter> zilkomaa: no that is fine
[19:12] <jalons> zilkomaa: not bad at all depending on your usage
[19:12] <MenZa> jonzbcc: Well, it stashes everything in apache2.conf iirc, so why the files are even included is beyond me.
[19:13] <ccraze> iter: Thanks for your help earlier.  I'm going to use a cable to enter diagnostics mode on the drive and give it a different model number.  (preview.tinyurl.com/y9cl554)  If that doesn't work, the model change would at least let me flash it with the actual firmware that would be accepted.
[19:13] <anarkissed> Has anyone had anyluck with realtek wireless adapters?
[19:13] <inkjetunit> hey. are kernel modules packaged separately from the kernel image itself?
[19:13] <zilkomaa> Okay, thank you all nice to hear that.
[19:13] <iter> ccraze: cool
[19:13] <Hilikus> can i update alsa by just using the lucid package for alsa-base? i'm using karmic
[19:13] <iter> ccraze: hope it works out and you save $$ :)
[19:14] <capron> zilkomaa,  It is good then it can hibrate ,  If you have two disk you can make a swap on both and linux will kind of raid this swap
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hilikus: not a good idea to try and use lucid stuff in karmic
[19:14] <ccraze> iter: Yeah, for sure.  Thanks again for your help.
[19:14] <jonzbcc> well, its definitely not a matter of me having "Options none" set anywhere: grep -ir "Option" ./* | grep -i none
[19:14] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl.orig:     #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:14] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl:  #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:14] <Hilikus> sebsebseb: so what's the recommended way to upgrade alsa?
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hilikus: there might be a ppa for a later alsa, altough what's wrong with the one karmic comes with?
[19:14] <soreau> inkjetunit: That is a subjective question. Anyone can write a kernel module, so yes. There can be modules that are not part of the official linux kernel
[19:14] <anarkissed> why would a device come up as unclaimed im lshw?
[19:14] <anarkissed> *in
[19:14] <sebsebseb> Hilikus: (started typing  your reply, before you even asked the question)
[19:15] <erUSUL> Hilikus: install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[19:15] <erUSUL> !info linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic-generic
[19:15] <Hilikus> sebsebseb: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/374002  thats the problem
[19:15] <Testfunc23> hello: i try to chainload my windows 7 from grub, but instead of starting the windows bootmanager it just loops back to grub
[19:15] <seanbrystone> ustream down?
[19:15] <h0stBrz> somebody with experience in ubuntu + macbook?
[19:15] <seanbrystone> wrong chat sorry
[19:16] <iter> seanbrystone: watching puppy cam?
[19:16] <inkjetunit> soreau: ok. i'm trying to figure out if i could try a 3rd party kernel image without messing up things
[19:16] <Der> iter, i dont know my passphrase, plus it dosent automatically read anything from my system, eeven tho it shud
[19:16] <jonzbcc> h0stBrz: yes, I have some experience of such
[19:16] <anarkissed> mbr needs to be repaired testfunc
[19:16] <christopherdst-1> member:jonzbcc: are u using -IncludesNOEXEC or -Includes anywhere in any config files or htaccess?
[19:16] <bastid_raZor>  /wc 13
[19:17] <zdenek> \j #python-cs
[19:17] <capron> inkjetunit,  I 3rd party kernel sound intressing can you me a link ?
[19:17] <zdenek> join #python-cs
[19:17] <paul_> Does anybody know what would cause a battery notification icon to not appear on a laptop running Ubuntu? Or how to get it back? Its an aspire 6930G . Ive googled about to no avail :(
[19:17] <inkjetunit> capron: i'm not sure if there's one
[19:17] <soreau> inkjetunit: Typically, if the image is from a reliable source and was configured correctly, it should be ok to try. You can keep an entry of your current kernel in your boot loader config just in case
[19:17] <seanbrystone> iter, watching Leo Laporte
[19:17] <iter> Der: it's your login password
[19:17] <anarkissed> Testfunc:http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[19:17] <vitito> ping
[19:18] <vitito> ping Linkadmin
[19:18] <vitito> lol
[19:18] <Der> iter, no iter, i recoreded a long passphrase, plus i already tried that
[19:18] <ZimCS> Hey guys.  I am not really new to linux, but usually have the installer partition the drives for me.  This time I would like to do it myself using a software RAID 1 setup.  If I make a boot partition and and apply it to RAID, if disk 1 fails and is removed from the system and the system is rebooted, will drive to be able to boot the system using GRUB?
[19:18] <jonzbcc> christopherdstam: well, I just read over that whole section, but it only confirmed for me that I am indeed properly utilizing directives. :(
[19:18] <capron> inkjetunit,  There are some 3 party options in the ubuntu kernel
[19:18] <zdenek> who
[19:18] <inkjetunit> soreau: how about modules in linux? are 2.6.x modules compatible with 2.6.y and so on?
[19:18] <vitito> does anyone know about a IRC channel to talk about ettercao
[19:19] <iter> Der: if you encrypt things and cannot remember the password it's goin to be difficult :)
[19:19] <vitito> ettercap*
[19:19] <erUSUL> ZimCS: you have to install grub in the mbr of both disks afaik
[19:19] <jonzbcc> I would think Apache SSI would be the most _simple_ thing to implement
[19:19] <erUSUL> !raid | ZimCS
[19:19] <christopherdst-1> jonzbcc: ok, so what makes u think it's not working? maybe ur code it not right?
[19:19] <mengu> hi. can i change the character encoding of the distro? i'm using jaunty.
[19:19] <erUSUL> !locales
[19:19] <ZimCS> erebus, thanks.  The tutorial I read the guy did the same. However, he only had  swap, /root and /home partitions so I didnt know if it was different
[19:20] <soreau> inkjetunit: Generally, kernel modules compiled against a certain kernel version can only be used with that version of the kernel.
[19:20] <ZimCS> erUSUL*
[19:20] <Der> iter, its not a password, its very very long passphrase, lots of unknown randomness, i can never remeber it, plus all my programming projects are on it, i really need this :(
[19:20] <jonzbcc> christopherdst-1: I wouldn't think so. this is what I have (I typed it, while reading straight through my transparent terminal to the Apache Docs page: grep -ir "Option" ./* | grep -i none
[19:20] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl.orig:     #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:20] <jonzbcc> ./sites-available/default-ssl:  #   none, optional, require and optional_no_ca.  Depth is a
[19:20] <h0stBrz> somebody can help me with native installation on macbook?
[19:21] <inkjetunit> soreau: thanks for info
[19:21] <jonzbcc> christopherdst-1: ignore that last paste, I meant:                        <!--#config errmsg="[It appears that you don't know how to use SSI]" --> <p>This document last modified: <!--#flastmod file="./test.shtml" --></p> <!--#include virtual="./content/home.shtml" -->
[19:21] <olskolirc> how do I bring up the kubuntu resolution display box from the terminal
[19:21] <trineox> Der not to be negative but you have a serious issue
[19:21] <trineox> Der since you can not remember your "random" passphrase
[19:22] <olskolirc> sorry wrong window
[19:22] <sysdoc> Does anyone have a working solution to exporting the package list to a txt file and installing on another install?
[19:22] <VCoolio> olskolirc: open it, then run 'xprop', click that window and read the output for the command
[19:22] <emilv_> hei'
[19:23] <Besogon> sysdoc: open synaptic
[19:23] <emilv_> Hello??
[19:23] <johnzorn> for a laptop with 4g ram which will use suspend mode, whats a good size for swap partition?
[19:23] <Hilikus> erUSUL: so once i install that package what do i need to do? or it automatically updates the modules?
[19:23] <highfiver> hello...i nees help installing the daneel-ai client for thousand parsec...anyone?
[19:23] <sysdoc> Besogon, has to be from the cli
[19:23] <jonzbcc> !hi | emilv_
[19:23] <Der> trineox, thats what ive been trying to say since ages, everything in my /home dir is Extremely highly important, and my system is messed up big time, and nobody knows how to help, more than 1400 users, and not even one "KNOWS"
[19:23] <christopherdst-1> jonzbcc: check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Virtual%20Hosts or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerSideIncludes
[19:24] <sysdoc> Where can one get a list of the options for ubottu?
[19:24] <christopherdst-1> jonzbcc: ur probably gonna have to resort to google from here, i don't have any clue whats wrong
[19:24] <sebsebseb> !bot | sysdoc
[19:24] <judget> I just did an install but my username password doesnt work any suggestions IM a DUMMY
[19:24] <trineox> Der well, basically you will have to hack your own system to recover it...no other way.
[19:24] <inkjetunit> soreau: can you hint me about runtime configurable kernel options? similar to kern. and vm. sysctls under BSDs?
[19:24] <sysdoc> sebsebseb, thanks
[19:24] <sebsebseb> sysdoc: np
[19:24] <jonzbcc> :( IRC is always my last resort after googling, haha. (its okay its not a critical server, just a personal project) -- thanks a ton for the links :)
[19:24] <judget> I tried to login as root
[19:25] <sebsebseb> judget: you don't log in to root
[19:25] <judget> well I was desperate
[19:25] <Der> trineox, ill do wtv it takes to recover my source code back, i need it, but its not possible to recover that :(
[19:25] <sebsebseb> judget: well  you can get root  basically via command line, but... anyway  adding new users and chaning passwords is easy
[19:26] <judget> but how can i logon to do that if my user pw done work
[19:26] <sebsebseb> judget: get into  recovery mode from the Grub boot loader, get the root prompt.  adduser  username   to add one,  passwd username to change the password
[19:26] <Besogon> sysdoc: I don't know what is "the cli". but if you open first menu in the synaptic you will find option for save some chosen packages in txt file. Then you can run that file to download the packages and install them by dpkg command on other comuter
[19:26] <trineox> Der you will have to think had about that passphrase, and if and when you figure it out, you may want to consider a different passphrase
[19:26] <sebsebseb> judget: username being  what you have choosen to use
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[19:27] <christopherdst-1> besogom: cli = command line interface
[19:27] <Or1on> i'm thinking of setting up a vpn, is PPTP the way to go? linux & windows clients
[19:27] <trineox> Der such as one with lower upper letters with numbers but something you can remember that is still random
[19:27] <highfiver> anyone with tp experience?
[19:27] <Der> trineox, its im,possible to remember or know, its complete randomness out of randomness combined with randomness...
[19:27] <sipher> Or1on depending on the type of vpn server you are connecting to...pptp would work for a Microsoft based VPN tunnel.
[19:27] <erUSUL> Hilikus: reboot so the nrew modules are used
[19:28] <Hilikus> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> reboot, blasphemy!
[19:28] <Or1on> sipher, I'm setting up a server.
[19:28] <trineox> Der well how did you access it before?
[19:28] <Der> trineox, it used to auto mount at login
[19:28] <sipher> Or1on what type of clients are you looking to support? Or are you doing site to site vpn?
[19:28] <Schui> hi.. im having a bit of trouble with my sound, i tried to install alsa so my sound would work in a game. however, now i dont get any sound in firefox, and now nothing is showing up for "devices" in pulseaudio sound preferences.. please help!
[19:28] <jef91> Anyone here ever get a remote working under Ubuntu?
[19:28] <glphvgacs> hi, apt-get install openssh-server says pkg is not avail. (samba karmic) /etc/apt/sources.list looks fine, I think
[19:29] <judget> IM in rescue mode now
[19:29] <k0d3g3ar> Orlon:  If you have an iPhone or Windows clients, you'll probably want PPTP
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | jef91
[19:29] <trineox> Der ewww...oh boy...
[19:29] <judget> as i remember it should give an option to logon as root?
[19:29] <jrib> glphvgacs: this is #ubuntu :)
[19:29] <k0d3g3ar> Orlon:  Its very hard to do Samba without PPTP
[19:29] <sebsebseb> judget: yep
[19:29] <judget> ok thanks
[19:29] <sebsebseb> judget:  well to get the system as root in the shell sure
[19:30] <glphvgacs> jrib: where should I go? #ubuntu-server?
[19:30] <sysdoc> Besogon, tried that didn't work worth a rip[
[19:30] <judget> once i get on as root I know what to do
[19:30] <mawst> what's the command to make a samba user again?
[19:30] <jrib> glphvgacs: try again after « sudo apt-get update » and then pastebin your sources.list as well as the output in full from your install command
[19:30] <Or1on> sipher, its just for my personal Internet use, I like to route everything over the VPN when I'm on open wireless networks. I will be using windows and ubuntu
[19:30] <ActionParsnip> mawst: sudo smbpasswd -a username
[19:30] <k0d3g3ar> mawst:   www.letmegooglethatforyou.com
[19:30] <inkjetunit> judget: sudo su - :P
[19:30] <Trek> judget, we can;t help you get on root, its against CoC
[19:30] <glphvgacs> jrib: ok
[19:30] <Besogon> Or1on: net in my university uses a vpn with which we connect to internet. (you will need RIP for pptp(vpn))
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> !google | k0d3g3ar
[19:31] <sebsebseb> Trek: no he is using recovery mode to make a new user account, or re set a password, once he has the shell
[19:31] <Trek> where are the openssh-server config files stored?
[19:31] <Trek> ah, now I get it sebsebseb
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> inkjetunit: sudo -s  is advised over sudo su
[19:31] <jrib> Trek: /etc/ssh/
[19:31] <jrib> sudo -i  better
[19:31] <inkjetunit> ActionParsnip: ok
[19:31] <sebsebseb> Trek: also  uhmm the COC is  about being polite and such as far as I know, not about  setting a root account password being the big no of Ubuntu
[19:31] <Trek> jrib: what file do I edit to set various commands on it?
[19:32] <jrib> Trek: erm, what?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> jrib: -s uses the users profile -i uses roots afaik
[19:32] <Trek> jrib: where can I edit what p[ort it listens on, what users to allow, etc?
[19:32] <Trek> jrib: what file under there
[19:32] <Schui> to elaborate my problem..  i would like to revert my changes (get rid of alsa and just use pulseaudio) dont care about the game just need to get my sound to work, lol
[19:32] <jrib> Trek: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:32] <Trek> thanks
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> schui: could reinstall the package from repos
[19:33] <arand> How can I install all missing dependencies, but not the package itself?
[19:34] <highfiver> any help with thousand parsec?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> arand: sudo apt-get -f install    will fix all deps you need
[19:34] <Trek> jrib: after I mess with its settings, how do I restart the SSH server
[19:34] <jrib> ActionParsnip: -i will sanitize the environment (including $HOME).  Not doing this could cause issues sometimes
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> arand: you can always use dpkg to remove the package you dont want if it gets installed
[19:34] <jrib> Trek: sudo service ssh restart
[19:34] <inkjetunit> &part
[19:34] <inkjetunit> fail :P
[19:34] <Trek> k thanks
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> jrib: gotcha
[19:35] <mawst> I think I'm in love.
[19:35] <mawst> :(
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> jrib: learning every day :)
[19:35] <Schui> action: how would i get rid of alsa? it seems to me like its causing the problem
[19:36] <mawst> alsa > *
[19:36] <mawst> at least 5 years ago
[19:36] <mawst> it was
[19:36] <arand> ActionParsnip: That won't get me the dependecies without getting *the* package, or it will mark all the deps as auto-removable when I remove the package..
[19:36] <glphvgacs> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m28ecbfd8
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> !sound
[19:36] <jrib> ActionParsnip: what you described is right, what I said is just a consequence of what you said.  -s has its uses, but usually if someone wants something they want to behave like a "root prompt" -i is a better idea
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> arand: then tell apt-get to only download the packages, you can then use dpkg to install individually
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> jrib: duly adopted (not something i use but can advise others better)
[19:38] <anarkissed> <-----has issues
[19:38] <glphvgacs> jrib: never mind, now it's working
[19:38] <Trek> jrib: one last question: where's the sudoers file stored?
[19:38] <jrib> glphvgacs: ok
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> !details | anarkissed
[19:39] <arand> ActionParsnip: hmm, yea that works, cheers.
[19:39] <anarkissed> lshw in 9.10 sees my wireless adapter as "UNCLAIMED" anyone had this issue?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> trek: in /etc i wouldnt go playing with it as you may lose sudo ability in the installed system and need to use live cd to roll back. make a backup copy of the current one
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: websearch for the product line in: sudo lshw -C network
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: you will find guides
[19:41] <JoshuaL> how can i make it so that grub starts ubuntu automaticly without waiting x seconds?
[19:41] <Trek> ActionParsnip: I've got working backups of the sudoers file, i'm messing with only one line: adding insult capabilities and making it ask for the pasword every time
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> trek: haha nice
[19:41] <arand> JoshuaL: edit /etc/default/grub
[19:41] <Trek> ActionParsnip and jrib: I found my old threads pertaining to this on ubuntuforums.org, i'll figure it out now
[19:41] <Trek> :)
[19:41] <anarkissed> realtek8191se
[19:41] <Trek> ActionParsnip: the sudoers file is the same on all 3 of my computers :P
[19:41] <Esteban> hola
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> joshua: look in what arand said. you will need to run: sudo update-grub after
[19:42] <Esteban> buenas tardes
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: there you go, thats the wifi chip.
[19:42] <JoshuaL> arand, ActionParsnip ty
[19:42] <Pirate_Hunter> where can I get involved with the chat for lucid, it seems the chat system on the site is not connecting guessing too many users online
[19:42] <sebsebseb> !es | Esteban
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | pirate_hunter
[19:43] <lungan> brontosaurusrex, I have downloaded avidemux, but I don't know which formats i should choose when changing he file to .mp4, I've heard something that theres the audio I need to change
[19:43] <anarkissed> ive tried compiling the drivers for it, ndiswrapper and other compatible drivers.....does unclaimed mean its disabled?
[19:43] <lungan> Having some trouble with .mkv and .m2ts files, since my tv just takes .mp4 files, how do I fix that problem?
[19:43] <Lint01> if I tell the installer that I want root user, can I later change it to use sudo, or I must reinstall the system?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> anarkissed: try: sudo iwlist scan
[19:43] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip, just came from work watching the stream http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon however would like to get involved in the chat, can i do it from here?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | lint01
[19:44] <Besogon> lungan: mp4 is shit
[19:44] <Lint01> !root > lint01
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> lint01: you cant tell the installer you want a root account. its simply disabled
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | besogon
[19:44] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: no, it asks whether I want to enable root account
[19:45] <edeca> Lint01: What are you installing, exactly?
[19:45] <Besogon> That wasn't rude!
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> lint01: what release
[19:45] <edeca> Lint01: No recent ubuntu using the normal installer has asked that, to the best of my knowledge
[19:45] <lungan> Besogon, Ok but the TV just take mp4 and avi
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> besogon: bad language isnt tolerated here
[19:45] <edeca> Perhaps some of the advanced/expert/alternate installers do
[19:45] <Trek> okay, the system won't let me save my changes to sudoers
[19:45] <Trek> any help?
[19:45] <Lint01> ActionParsnip: 8.04 with text installer
[19:45] <edeca> Trek: Did you use: visudo
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> trek: you need to open it with: gksudo gedit
[19:45] <edeca> Trek: That is the correct way to edit your sudoers file.  And you will want to sudo it, so you can save
[19:46] <edeca> ActionParsnip: It is not safe to edit sudoers/passwd/group directly.  visudo/vipw/vigr should be used
[19:46] <Trek> ActionParsnip: I used visudo to open it before, but the issue is that it won't let me save regardless
[19:46] <edeca> lungan: That's not helpful, because MP4 and AVI are just containers.  You need to find out what decoders the TV has
[19:46] <edeca> Trek: Did you sudo it?
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> lint01: considering ubuntu doesnt support having a root password i dont think you are installing a canonical release personally
[19:46] <edeca> Trek: sudo visudo
[19:46] <edeca> Trek: You need to be root in order to edit the file :)
[19:47]  * edeca spots a catch 22
[19:47] <lungan> edeca, H264 and AAC seems to work
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> edeca: gotcha (dont use it myself but good to know)
[19:47] <edeca> lungan: That's useful information.
[19:47] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: the command I was told to use ont he forums was sudo env VISUAL=gedit visudo
[19:47] <edeca> ActionParsnip: I'm sure on a system where there is one admin it is perfectly safe
[19:47] <blakkheim> use vi, not gedit
[19:47] <edeca> Trek: That's safe :)
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> trek: that will run as a user which has no write access
[19:47] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: so yes, it runs, and I"m the only admin on the system (its my netbook, for crying out loud)
[19:48] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: should I switch to superuser and do it that way?
[19:48] <edeca> Trek: Yes.
[19:48] <lungan> edeca, Yeah, but having problems to encode the video to H264 and AAC with container mp4
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> trek: still needs sudo
[19:48] <edeca> Trek: For me, the following works (I just tested): $ sudo VISUAL=gedit visudo
[19:48] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: okay, I've got root access (sudo su)
[19:48] <ZykoticK9> lungan, check out HandBrake
[19:48] <edeca> ZykoticK9: Good recommendation :)
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> lungan: and winff
[19:49] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: it only opens up sudoers.tmp, not sudoers
[19:49] <blakkheim> ffmpeg
[19:49] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca: still wont let me write
[19:49] <blakkheim> Trek: that's for a sanity check, it overwrites the real one if your edit passed
[19:49] <edeca> Trek: That's the correct behaviour.  What happens when you try and save?
[19:50] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca / blakkheim: "Could not save the file /etc/sudoers.  You are trying to save the file on a read-only disk."
[19:50] <Trek> and i'm logged in as root
[19:50] <edeca> Er, is it mounted read only?
[19:50] <blakkheim> Trek: pastebin your /etc/fstab
[19:50] <edeca> Trek: The following might help: $ mount -o remount,rw /
[19:50] <edeca> Trek: But yes, pastebin your /etc/fstab and the output of `mount`
[19:50] <Trek> ActionParsnip / edeca / blakkheim: its the FileSystem drive, its auto-mounted
[19:51] <edeca> Weird
[19:51] <Mack> can anyone help with installing the ioncube loaders?
[19:52] <judget> thanks everyone for the help I was having a brain fart
[19:52] <trism> Trek: /etc/sudoers has permissions that make it read-only, it has nothing to do with how the filesystem is mounted (/boot/grub/grub.cfg will give you the same error if you try to edit it directly, without chmod'ing first)
[19:53] <edeca> trism: But root ignores those permissions, correct?
[19:53] <Trek> edeca / blakkheim: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m714c12da
[19:53] <trism> edeca: no, it doesn't
[19:53] <Trek> trism: reference the pastebin.  how would I write to sudoers then?
[19:53] <edeca> trism: No, you're right
[19:53] <blakkheim> >remount-ro
[19:53] <edeca> Trek: chmod +w /etc/sudoers first
[19:53] <blakkheim> Trek: that's why
[19:53] <edeca> Ah
[19:54] <edeca> Trek: The following might help: $ mount -o remount,rw /
[19:54] <edeca> trism: visudo sorts out file permissions for you
[19:54] <edeca> trism: My /etc/sudoers is -w for all, but visudo has no issue
[19:55] <edeca> The problem is the read-only remount
[19:55] <trism> edeca: yes, I have no idea why that isn't working
[19:55] <Trek> edeca: chmod +w /etc/sudoers worked, it wasnt working otherwise
[19:56] <edeca> You have one weird system :)
[19:56] <cchapman> is it legal to distribute the Citrix ICA client for linux?
[19:56] <daftykins> cchapman: i'd imagine citrix may have more info than #ubuntu on that
[19:56] <_Trullo> isn't that free?
[19:56] <aidam> hi
[19:57] <edeca> _Trullo: Free != redistributable
[19:57] <cchapman> daftykins, that place is non responsive
[19:57] <Mack> does anyone here know how to install the ioncube loaders?
[19:57] <erUSUL> cchapman: ask citrix
[19:57] <edeca> cchapman: Well if the shoe shop is closed, I'm not going to buy sneakers from a cake shop ;)
[19:57] <daftykins> edeca: lol love that response :)
[19:58] <Trek> edeca: did I mention I'm using NetBook Remix at the time?
[19:58] <Trek> edeca: could that be the reason?
[19:58] <edeca> Trek: I love UNR :)
[19:58] <edeca> Trek: I doubt it.
[19:58] <Diverdude> What IRC client does people in here use?
[19:58] <Trek> *shrugs*
[19:58] <Trek> !ot | Diverdude
[19:58] <blakkheim> Diverdude: irssi
[19:58] <cchapman> i was asking here because i have it packaged into a valid and working deb package for 64bit
[19:58] <onaogh> xchat
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> edeca: i find it a bit heavy although it is a nice ui
[19:58] <Trek> edeca: i guess its one of those things I'll have to write an alias for under root...
[19:58] <xTheGoat121x> Afternoon everyone
[19:59] <Neter> I'm on Ubuntu 9.10(Karmic Koala) using an Nvidia GE Force MX 420 video card and the latest nvdia driver but i can't achieve a resoltution higher than 640x480. Any help please?
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: right now darairc otherwise pidgin
[19:59] <erUSUL> Neter: gksudo nvidia-settings
[19:59] <erUSUL> Neter: run that
[19:59] <Neter> thankyou erUSUL
[19:59] <blakkheim> Neter: i recommend using a video card that isn't 8 years old
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> neter: run: gksudo jockey-gtk
[19:59] <Amanda98> hello
[20:00] <Amanda98> hello hola
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> neter: i think it uses the 96 driver
[20:00] <actarus> hello sorry, phpmyadmin Login without a password is forbidden by configuration (see AllowNoPassword)
[20:00] <erUSUL> !hi | Amanda98
[20:00] <crugeman> hello is Lantjie here
[20:00] <Amanda98> hi erusul
[20:00] <gilan> ./system
[20:01] <vinse> what's wrong with "adduser --group foogroup foo".  i get error "specify only one name in this mode".  no error if i dont include --group option, so i guess im misunderstanding what it does?
[20:01] <Trek> goty another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  how can I change it to wlan0?
[20:01] <vinse> it doesnt add the user to the group foogroup?
[20:01] <linusoleander> How do I starta script to leave it in the background?
[20:01] <Amanda98> hola quien de aqui sabe español?
[20:01] <blakkheim> linusoleander: script.sh &
[20:01] <vinse> linusoleander: nohup
[20:01] <edeca> !es | Amanda98
[20:01] <Neter> the Nvidia X Server Settings only displays 640x480
[20:01] <linusoleander> blakkheim: thanks
[20:02] <erUSUL> !es | Amanda98
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> linusoleander: or run from alt+f2 dialogue
[20:02] <edeca> vinse: Check usermod or groupmod
[20:02] <Trek> got another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  how can I change it to wlan0?
[20:02] <Amanda98> hola edeca
[20:02] <xTheGoat121x> Anyone in here using Pidgin in Karmic?
[20:02] <Amanda98> que tal rstas
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> neter: did you install the proprietary driver?
[20:02] <Neter> yes @ Action
[20:02] <vinse> edeca: im afraid i dont know what you mean by "check"
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> xthegoat121x: i do
[20:02] <edeca> vinse: Check those two commands
[20:02] <Amanda98> todos los que hablan aqui hablan solo ingles no?
[20:02] <edeca> vinse: Or just edit the group file, sudo vigr
[20:03] <m4v> Amanda98: /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[20:03] <JoshuaL> i have done once: export http_proxy="<proxy here>", after that I have unset it but each time I reboot it's back. how can i fix this?
[20:03] <Amanda98> quien sepa español que diga si
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> neter: maybe you need a base xorg.conf file to specify refresh rates if your monitor isnt providing info
[20:03] <Lint01> so I have to use sudo because of unix restrictions of 1970's ?
[20:03] <Amanda98> y si no me contestais me enfado
[20:03] <Trek> got another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  how can I change it to wlan0?
[20:03] <packrat_mobile> good afternoon gents
[20:03] <Flare183> !es | Amanda98
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> lint01: no its a security measure
[20:03] <Oins> Hi, i have a problem with my sound (ubuntu 9.10) Soundcard is displayed under settings, but i can't hear anything. How could i find out what goes wrong? Sound worked before my new installation of 9.10
[20:03] <xTheGoat121x> ActionParsnip, what version are you using, out of curiousity?
[20:03] <Cod3_Break3r> i have the Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) and i have a lot of problems with the card in ubuntu 9.10 how can i fix it?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> oins: check nothing is muted
[20:04] <JoshuaL> Oins, did you check if its not muted?
[20:04] <Amanda98> si
[20:04] <Amanda98> si
[20:04] <Amanda98> si
[20:04] <blakkheim> !op | Amanda98
[20:04] <FloodBot2> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <xfact> When I am trying to choose best server for me in 'Software source' every time it freezing, What to do? (OS: Ubuntu Karmic)
[20:04] <Amanda98> i
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> xthegoat121x the one on the pidgin ppa
[20:04] <FloodBot2> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <Amanda98> sisisisisisisisisi
[20:04] <Flare183> !wireless | Cod3_Break3r
[20:04] <JoshuaL> i have done once: export http_proxy="<proxy here>", after that I have unset it but each time I reboot it's back. how can i fix this?
[20:04] <Cod3_Break3r> yes man
[20:04] <xTheGoat121x> ActionParsnip, hmmm that doesn't tell me much, cuz I've got a problem with 2.6.5 being incredibly unstable.
[20:05] <edeca> JoshuaL: It is probably being set either by Gnome (from the proxy preferences) or your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[20:05] <Cod3_Break3r> but in the version 9.04 i dont have problems
[20:05] <Flare183> Cod3_Break3r: btw if you need help with it more let me know.
[20:05] <Oins> Yes, not muted and maximum turned on
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> joshual: add it to $HOME/.bashrc
[20:05] <JoshuaL> edeca, i already reset it in the proxy preferences.
[20:05] <Cod3_Break3r> yesterday i upgrade to 9.10 but the card doesnt work
[20:05] <packrat_mobile> i haz a question about ubuntu duudes?
[20:05] <edeca> JoshuaL: And clicked "apply systemwide" ?
[20:05] <JoshuaL> ActionParsnip, but isnt that a bit dirty for something I want to be unset by default?
[20:05] <JoshuaL> edeca, yes
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> xthegoat121x: im on my g1 phone now so cant give the version number. go see which version the ppa has. i use that one
[20:05] <vinse> edeca: usermod works, but i still dont understand what's wrong with "useradd --group foogroup foo".  but i guess i'll just do it in two commands
[20:05] <Trek> got another question: the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  is there a way to change the interface name that it is assigned?
[20:06] <edeca> JoshuaL: Weird.  I find that thing buggy.  Perhaps like ActionParsnip said, put the unset in your ~/.bashrc as a workaround
[20:06] <edeca> vinse: useradd is creating a new user, not adding one
[20:06] <edeca> vinse: Er, not modifying one
[20:06] <JoshuaL> edeca, ActionParsnip; ill do that. is it a bug then or?
[20:06] <xTheGoat121x> ActionParsnip, Got it, sorry. Have you experienced any kind of instability?
[20:06] <Amanda98> hello
[20:06] <packrat_mobile> guys turn on NPR....
[20:06] <ardian> What ipv6 are you guys using ?
[20:06] <edeca> JoshuaL: Possibly.  You need to find out where it is being set.
[20:07] <packrat_mobile> seriously...theyre talking about cyber attacks....
[20:07] <xfact>  When I am trying to choose best server for me for downloads in 'Software source' every time it freezing, What to do? (OS: Ubuntu Karmic)
[20:07] <Amanda98> i love you e deca
[20:07] <xfact> Or why it is happening
[20:07] <JoshuaL> edeca, and that is the question :p
[20:07] <xfact> ?
[20:07] <Myrtti> packrat_mobile: discuss it at #ubuntu-offtopic?
[20:07] <JoshuaL> i wonder where the gnome proxy settings stores it..
[20:07] <edeca> JoshuaL: You _could_ grep /etc and your ~ for the proxy address
[20:07] <Amanda98> qien sepa español que diga si
[20:07] <skullcandy> @packrat_mobile ddos mabye :S ?
[20:07] <Amanda98> si
[20:07] <Amanda98> si
[20:07] <Amanda98> si
[20:07] <FloodBot2> Amanda98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <Cod3_Break3r> aki yo ablo espanol
[20:07] <vinse> edeca: i realize that, but man useradd says --group is a valid option
[20:07] <Flare183> !es | Amanda98
[20:07] <JoshuaL> edeca, good idea, ill try that. thanks
[20:07] <Cod3_Break3r> de donde eres?
[20:08] <vinse> errr wait, no it doesnt
[20:08] <vinse> hrmm it's -g not --group, nfi where i got that from
[20:08] <vinse> thx
[20:08] <packrat_mobile> does ubuntu come with nmap installed on it? (my ubuntu question)
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> trek use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1007285 or wicd can simply be told what interface is the wifi
[20:09] <edeca> packrat_mobile: Not by default, but it is installable
[20:09] <Der> I fixed my problem, thnx 2 those 2 ppl who helped me here, i cant remember your names, but thanks to you
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> packrat_mobile: not by default. it can be installed though
[20:09] <onaogh> `set` doesn't have manual
[20:09] <edeca> onaogh: man bash
[20:09] <onaogh> edeca, thanks
[20:09] <edeca> onaogh: It's not a command, it's a bash extra
[20:09] <edeca> packrat_mobile: Don't private message me, please
[20:09] <vinse> wait, no it is --group, i'm not understanding :/
[20:10] <packrat_mobile> sorry edeca
[20:11] <xfact>  When I am trying to choose best server for me for downloads in 'Software source' every time it freezing, What to do? (OS: Ubuntu Karmic)
[20:11] <tasslehoff> I'm running 32-bit Karmic on my MacBook Pro 5.1 which has 4GB ram. "free -m" shows a total of only 2748. Is this something I should handle by installing a kernel with PAE?
[20:11] <vinse> krikey!  i get it now: useradd --group foo means "add group foo" while "useradd --group foogroup foo" doesnt mean anything at all
[20:11] <vinse> i wanted useradd foo foogroup ;)
[20:11] <djm62> I enabled karmic-proposed repository and since reboot the touchpad does not respond on my eeepc 901.  I can navigate the system fine keyboard-only, but how do I troubleshoot in our new no-XF86-config world?
[20:11] <tasslehoff> I don't want to reinstall 64-bit if I don't have to.
[20:11] <arand> tasslehoff: That would be one way to utilise all mem yes, or install 64bit ubuntu
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: thats the max for 32bit. you can install a pae kernel to get the rest
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !pae
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> !find pae
[20:12] <tasslehoff> arand: ActionParsnip: thanks. I'll go with PAE for now, and download the 64 bit version of 10.04
[20:12] <Spanglish_7776> 32 only supports up to 3gb
[20:13] <Spanglish_7776> 32bit*
[20:13] <Der> t
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> tasslehoff: cool you cant upgrade to 64bit. it will need a clean install
[20:13] <edeca> 32bit with PAE supports more, but not in the same way as 64bit
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> spanglish_7776: without pae, yes
[20:13] <Trek> the wireless card is being assigned interface name eth0.  is there a way to force change the interface name that it is assigned?
[20:14] <Der> tasslehoff, just curious, what will be the main use of your OS, to you?
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> trek: yes there are guides. you use the mac address i believe to tell the system which name to give it
[20:14] <tasslehoff> ActionParsnip: yep
[20:14] <Trek> ActionParsnip: mind referring me to one of these guides?
[20:14] <erUSUL> Trek: for a wireless card it depends ainly on the driver ....
[20:15] <erUSUL> Trek: for a wireless card it depends mainly on the driver ....
[20:15] <zoran119> hello
[20:15] <msg|beep> hi
[20:15] <Trek> ActionParsnip / erUSUL: its a Broadcom card, proprietary Linux drivers for 9.04
[20:15] <tasslehoff> Der: websurfing, multimedia and a bit of coding
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> trek: i pasted one earlier. if all you use is lan/wifi then you can use wicd and simply tell it that eth0 is wifi
[20:15] <erUSUL> Trek: if it is wired nic it is in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:15] <msg|beep> someone can answer a simple question ?
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> trek: or http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/how-to-rename-ethernet-card-eth1-to-eth0-314641/
[20:15] <rambo298> any apparmor experts in here
[20:15] <cmp> hello, bazhang  . ?
[20:16] <Trek> ActionParsnip / erUSUL: i'll check on all that, i'll see what I can do
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> msg|beep: not if you dont ask it
[20:16] <msg|beep> ok so i do
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> trek: id use wicd, its de independant too :)
[20:16] <Der> tasslehoff, im sorry to disappoint you, but the 64, will let you down, not as an OS, as an OS, its fantastic [SPEED], but when it comes to specifically flash player, and quite a few applications, they crash :(
[20:16] <zoran119> i'm running ubuntu server 8.10 lts, and when i update it some kernel packages are being held back... i had a look around and the way to update these is the do a dist-upgrade... but will this update me to a new version or will i still have 8.10 lts?
[20:17] <edeca> zoran119: Still 8.10
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> der: the native 64bit flash works great here
[20:17] <msg|beep> i have a live CD and after loading i am at gpanel. done all harddrive settings and safed them but i font know how to going on to install ubuntu from cd
[20:17] <edeca> zoran119: It's basically a "safe upgrade" or a "full upgrade"
[20:17] <cmp> hi guys, i have problem with adobe flash player for about 3 days now and i tried many times to fix it - but i couldnt - can you help me ?
[20:17] <edeca> zoran119: And will generally require you to reboot
[20:17] <jef91> cmp what is the issue?
[20:17] <Trek> ActionParsnip: i'm using erUSUL's method, i'm running CLI right now as root while I mess with the OS files
[20:17] <Trek> ActionParsnip: i'm using erUSUL's method, i'm running CLI right now as root while I mess with the OS files correctly *
[20:18] <Der> ActionParsnip, i tested karmic 64, on 3 machines, they've been crashing through out, [clean install tho]
[20:18] <blakkheim> zoran119: dist-upgrade doesn't take you to the next version, despite what the  name would imply
[20:18] <Der> ActionParsnip, i mean as in adobe flash player
[20:18] <edeca> dist-upgrade is a stupid name.  I much prefer aptitude
[20:18] <jef91> Der - I'm typing from karmic 64bit right now
[20:18] <bastid_raZor> zoran119: you will be the same version of ubuntu just a newer kernel. and 8.10 is not LTS 8.04 is
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> cmp: can you give the output (in a pastebin) of; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:18] <cmp> jef91, every time i try to open youtube- it asks me for the adobe flash player plugin... although when i accept to install if from the site - it tells me ( adobe flash player is allready installed - i dont know what is wrong
[20:19] <Trek> erUSUL: its a wired NIC card (internal), so the hardware address shouldn't change.  i've got NAME fixed, but should I mess with KERNEL=="eth*"?
[20:19] <woodyjlw> anyone know how to get wrath of the lich king to install from dvd in wine?   or maybe a link to some forums that might help me
[20:19] <Der> jef91, yes but may i ask, how is your web surfing experience with flash media??
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> trek: wicd has a curses interface ;)
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> der: yeh same, works well
[20:19] <jef91> Der - I watch Hulu just fine along with youtube now and again, plus I use pandora radio alot
[20:19] <msg|beep> I am new to live cd's
[20:19] <Trek> ActionParsnip: meh, i don't like wicd... issues with WPA and WPA2 on my systems :P
[20:19] <jef91> cmp how did you install it?
[20:19] <brandonban6> OYE! Any ati users out there? i set up my settings in the catalyst control panel (admin) but it doesn't seem to write to xorg.conf, because when i reboot, the settings are reset? I just want to disable my laptop display and use an external monitor, thats it!
[20:19] <tasslehoff> Der: thanks for the warning. I'll do some research before I decide wehter to install
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | woodyjlw
[20:20] <danopia_> jef91, use grooveshark :P lets you queue songs etc., imo better than pandora for active listening. the radio feature isn't very good thouhg, picks random songs
[20:20] <cmp> Actionparsnip, http://pastebin.com/m795f5ca8
[20:20] <Der> ActionParsnip, jef91, i guess you are luckier than i am :( , my machine is 64 bit capable, yet i had to roll back to 32, when problems happened
[20:21] <jef91> danopia_ I use grooveshark when I want particular songs ;) However most times I just like discovering new music and Pandora does ALOT better job of that than GS. Plus I have Pandora One with the desktop application, <3 Adobe Air
[20:21] <Der> !livecd | msg|beep
[20:21] <Trek> erUSUL: its a wired NIC card (internal), so the hardware address shouldn't change.  i've got NAME fixed, but should I mess with KERNEL=="eth*" in the file??
[20:21] <cmp> jef91, when i open the page it tells me on a tool bar - there is some missing plugins... and the clip is not showing , so i click on the bottom which says install the missing plugin
[20:22] <Trek> ActionParsnip: i'm also lazy and don't want to install anything right now
[20:22] <gio> ciao
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> cmp: ok uninstall ALL those. you will then install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:22] <gio> !list
[20:22] <msg|beep> ubottu: the harddrive has no OS on it it is clean. I want to install ubuntu from live cd without INET. Is it possible ?
[20:22] <k4rt33k> Any other irc networks for normal chatting?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> cmp: you have more than one plugin and they fight and you get nothing
[20:22] <jef91> cmp - remove any traces of flash player you currently have on your system (if any) and then install it via synaptic
[20:22] <Trek> k4rt33k: nope, use #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <orangefly> #openoffice
[20:23] <`mOOse`> k4rt33k, there are hundreds of irc networks
[20:23] <cmp> Actionparsnip, i even installed before with bazhang here flashplugin-nonfree and nothing changed
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cmp: then only packge you want is flashplugin-nonfree not all those
[20:23] <k4rt33k> `mOOse`: Any idea where to find them?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> cmp: yes because you have those others which are conflicting
[20:23] <cmp> Actionparsnip,  jef91 ,   ok how can i do remove it and then install it can you guide me please ?
[20:24] <sburwood> anyone seen 10.4?
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> cmp: use software center and the pastebin as a guide then install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:24] <msg|beep> is there any how to on the net how to install ubuntu from live-cd without inet?
[20:24] <matu_> hi all
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> !lucid | sburwood
[20:24] <jef91> cmp Look through your mozilla plugins
[20:24] <`mOOse`> k4rt33k, it's off-topic in here but depending on your irc client (the thing you're using to type here), there's usually a list of them in your setup somewhere - if you mean *channels* (which is the place where you are typing - the "room") then type /list usually
[20:25] <sburwood> sorry
[20:25] <cwillu_at_work> ugh, so I just unlocked my encrypted drive on bootup, and then when the usplash screen cleared, it had my password printed in plain text
[20:25] <cwillu_at_work> this, as they say, is a Bad Thing.
[20:25] <cmp> Actionparsnip, jef91  , ok i will do it now and come back to you when i finish it
[20:25] <kubanc> anybody knows why i have this problem for my wireless device  TKIP: RX tkey->key_idx=1 frame keyidx=2 priv=xxxx
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> (msg|beep): you dont need a web connection to install or use the live cd
[20:25] <juancarl1s> test
[20:25] <Trek> anyone familiar with messing with the naming algorithms for network interfaces?
[20:25] <msg|beep> ok but what i have to do after closeing gpanel ?
[20:25] <juancarl1s> how to rename command?
[20:26] <msg|beep> *closing
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> !test | juancarl1s
[20:26] <edeca> juancarl1s: What do you want to _do_
[20:26] <edeca> juancarl1s: Tell us the problem, not your solution
[20:26] <Der> msg|beep, are you on live cd now?
[20:26] <msg|beep> no not now
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> juancarl1s: create an alias in $HOME/.bashrc
[20:26] <juancarl1s> rename myself here
[20:26] <edeca> juancarl1s: /nick mynewname
[20:26] <cwillu_at_work> juancarl1s, /nick
[20:26] <Der> msg|beep, did you download and burn your cd?
[20:26] <msg|beep> i have to safe information in mind to use them tomorrow
[20:26] <msg|beep> i have a cd
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> juancarlsl1s: ok bashrc isnt for in irc
[20:27] <juancarlospaco> !foo
[20:27] <juancarlospaco> perfect
[20:27] <msg|beep> just on work
[20:27] <lifestream> Is there a GUI program to setup Wacom preferences? (it works, I just want to easily change how it works)
[20:27] <onaogh> how i can store a value say 123 in a variable x in bash ?
[20:27] <edeca> onaogh: VARIABLE="123"
[20:27] <Der> msg|beep, good, restart your computer boot the cd, and choose the 1st option
[20:27] <blakkheim> lifestream: xterm -e vi /your/config
[20:27] <imi> hi
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> onaogh: expot x=123
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> export
[20:27] <onaogh> :)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> sorry typo
[20:27] <lifestream> blakkheim,  ....O_0......sorry.... ..  what..? xD
[20:27] <edeca> The export is necessary if you want it saved as part of your current environment.
[20:28] <onaogh> noth, just a temp var
[20:28] <Der> msg|beep, you will see ubuntu without touching your computer...
[20:28] <msg|beep> Der: I done this 1 time. i last in gpanel and i closed it. I have xserver running and i can exit gpanel information terminal and so
[20:28] <msg|beep> these are the icons i can click
[20:28] <msg|beep> but that is not ubuntu installed
[20:28] <cmp> Actionparsnip, jef91 , this is the out put while i was removing the adobe flash .... http://pastebin.com/m417b0da2      its telling me ( package operation failed
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> onaogh: you will reference it with $x
[20:29] <Der> msg|beep, on the desktop there must be an icon, install
[20:29] <msg|beep> when i exit, i get the hint to flip out cd and reboot
[20:29] <onaogh> yep
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> onaogh: e.g.   echo $x    to output it
[20:29] <msg|beep> but it doesnt boot bcause there is no install and no bootsector information about a system on this harddrivve
[20:29] <renegaid> I need a good distro that has a decent ui out of box. anyone tried linux mint?
[20:29] <msg|beep> no there is no instsall
[20:29] <onaogh> yep
[20:29] <erUSUL> Trek: no
[20:30] <erUSUL> Trek: just change the name
[20:30] <Der> msg|beep, boot the cd again, on the desktop there is a install icon, it will start a wizard that wil guide you through the installation process
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: mint is offtopic here
[20:30] <msg|beep> is any of the boot options the one i install it ?
[20:30] <juancarlospaco> someone have a Guide/tuto/tips'N'Tricks/candy/Wiki for making a Ubuntu-Only WIFI?
[20:30] <msg|beep> rly ?
[20:30] <Trek> erUSUL: out of curiosity, what does KERNEL=="somethign" specify?
[20:30] <msg|beep> what if there is no install icon ?
[20:30] <msg|beep> how to go on ?
[20:30] <renegaid> I see. thought it was just ubuntu with a face lift
[20:30] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: good ui is an opinion so never concrete. you can install many different DE/WMs on ubuntu.
[20:31] <Der> msg|beep, check under System Menu -> adminitration, there must be there,,,
[20:31] <lifestream> Is there a GUI program to setup Wacom preferences? (it works, I just want to easily change how it works)
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: it not a canonical release
[20:31] <msg|beep> i have no real desktop
[20:31] <erUSUL> Trek: the event that the kernel sents to udev. a rule eth* intercepta all eth1 eth0 eth2 etc and acts uppon them renaming if needed
[20:31] <juancarlospaco> need a WIFI for Ubuntu only, to use a apt-mirror
[20:31] <msg|beep> so no system menu
[20:31] <renegaid> too much trouble. ok then
[20:31] <Der> msg|beep, if all hope is lost with you, boot the cd again and now choose the 2nd boot option, which is install
[20:31] <debo> Could not download all repository indexes
[20:31] <Trek> ah, thanks for the info erUSUL... not going to mess with that :P
[20:31] <msg|beep> ok i will see if i have an install ican
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: try a few DEs. see which you like
[20:32] <debo> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/schmirrwurst/ppa/ubuntu/dists/8.04/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[20:32] <trineox> brb
[20:32] <debo> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:32] <msg|beep> ok thats be the point Der!
[20:32] <msg|beep> think this will be the right action for my situation
[20:32] <debo> what does this mean?
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> debo: maybe its down
[20:32] <renegaid> I have tried many many. I will try mint now
[20:32] <edeca> A 404 means the file does not exist.  The server must be up.
[20:32] <Timmarshall> hi dudes im reading linux for dummies 2nd edition (i got from the college library) should i read the 1st edition first?????
[20:32] <msg|beep> so thank you for your patient
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> debo: or the file moved or is being updated
[20:32] <msg|beep> and thank you for help
[20:33] <debo> i ve tried several times today
[20:33] <edeca> Timmarshall: No, the same way you wouldn't read any 1st edition if there is a 2nd
[20:33] <damjanzg> I got some txt with spaces in variable B and I tray to get rid of them with command S=`echo $B | sed 's/,//g'` but that just cant be done, what is the problem?
[20:33] <msg|beep> maybe we see us again
[20:33] <msg|beep> bb
[20:33] <edeca> debo: Are you sure that repository is still correct?
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> renegaid: mint is a distro, not a de
[20:33] <_lance_> hi.. i'm having a hard time rolling back some packages. apt-get -t hardy install perl-base only tells me that the latest version is already installed, for example.
[20:33] <Timmarshall> ok thanks
[20:33] <jef91> cmp are there any flash packages installed when you look in synaptic ?
[20:33] <_lance_> i manually installed with dpkg -i and there's dozens of deps that broke now.
[20:33] <tassleho1f> and my ram is back :)
[20:33] <sander_> hi all
[20:33] <renegaid> ont know was de is but ok
[20:33] <_lance_> any idea how to resolve those deps? hopefully more easily than dpkg -i for them all.
[20:33] <debo> how could i check if the repository is correct?
[20:34] <edeca> debo: http://ppa.launchpad.net/schmirrwurst/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/ seems to be valid
[20:34] <iceroot> damjanzg: maybe i am wrong but i would use s/\ //g
[20:34] <LOGAN> anyone in holland where I can get an original CD of ubuntu?
[20:34] <shubbar> Timmarshall, what does that book has?
[20:34] <sander_> ik kom uit NL :)
[20:34] <edeca> damjanzg: Well that would remove commas
[20:34] <_lance_> a few days ago i did an apt-get install -t lucid and that brought in way more deps than i thought, and broke a bunch of stuff.
[20:34] <Trek> erUSUL: if I changed the interface name in the file you specified, would that name be persistent?
[20:34] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone using UNR9.04 on an Acer Aspire ONE that is having issues with the battery (Says it has 2.5 hours left after full charge but only lasting like 40minutes tops)?
[20:34] <Cr33pz0r> Each time i start ubuntu it messes up my screen!
[20:34] <edeca> damjanzg: If you want to remove spaces, use \s+ or ( )+
[20:34] <onaogh> can anyone else find "_webmitm ()" in the output when executing the command "set" without args
[20:34] <erUSUL> Trek: yes
[20:35] <edeca> onaogh: No
[20:35] <cmp> jef91 , now i went throught Synaptic to remove any thing related to flash plugins and even to remove mozilla coz its involved in each error i receive about the flash - but even this trial it not finishing as it should finish
[20:35] <sander_> hey LOGAN, you can oder 1 for free online....i did in from the NL
[20:35] <dfgh> I have an ati radeon hd 5470 graphics card, but the 5000 series is apparently not supported yet. is there another driver I can use? at least i'd like to be able to change resolution
[20:35] <jef91> did you manually remove the libflashplayer.so cmp?
[20:35] <bwallen> I have a second sata hdd in my computer. Every few seconds it sounds like ubuntu is power it down and turning it back on. Why is this?
[20:35] <LOGAN> sander_: I've done that for the past years but I reached my quota :)
[20:35] <erUSUL> dfgh: i guess that the driver in ati's site would work
[20:35] <erUSUL> !envyng | dfgh
[20:36] <cmp> no jef91 .
[20:36] <blakkheim> LOGAN: same here, guess you just need to dl it
[20:36] <cmp> i dont know even where is it located jef91.
[20:36] <LOGAN> blakkheim: maybe I end up asking a windows friend to order one for me :)
[20:37] <juancarlospaco> someone have a Guide/tuto/tips'N'Tricks/candy/Wiki for making a Ubuntu-Only WIFI? (to use apt-mirror)
[20:37] <ikonia> cmp: read the help page I've told you to read for the last 2 days so you know how to navigate around the file system and we can get this resolved
[20:37] <onaogh> how to write output of a command to a file ?
[20:37] <edeca> onaogh: command > file
[20:37] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: ubuntu only wifi ?
[20:37] <edeca> onaogh: That will redirect STDOUT, but not STDERR
[20:37] <Cr33pz0r> Why is my screen all messed up when I start live cd?
[20:37] <iceroot> onaogh: command > file
[20:37] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: yes
[20:37] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: what do you mean ?
[20:37] <edeca> onaogh: Google for 'bash redirection' for more information
[20:37] <iceroot> onaogh: or >> to append it
[20:37] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: what video card do you have and what version of ubuntu
[20:37] <jef91> cmp check /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[20:37] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: a wifi that can only connect using ubuntu, restricted by OS
[20:38] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: there is a bug with some ati cards
[20:38] <sander_> any1 succesfully changed the "default"  adito theme ? :)
[20:38] <shubbar> Cr33pz0r, what do you mean by "messed up"?
[20:38] <edeca> juancarlospaco: There is no easy way to do that
[20:38] <Cr33pz0r> how do i fix/workaround it
[20:38] <cmp> i would be so much appreciative if you dont try to help me Ikonia... really i dont want it from your side
[20:38] <Spanglish_7776> onaogh comand >>file
[20:38] <socram> i've to kill pulseaudio whenever an app wants to use it, ie: fresh start: using vlc (ok sound), close vlc, open rythmbox (no sound) unless i kill pulseaudio. wtf?
[20:38] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: you can't do it like that, you'd have to limit by something such as mac address, or limit it at the dhcp server to stop non-ubuntu machines getting an IP
[20:38] <dfgh> erUSUL: OK, thanks. i'll look into envyng. but first, which driver in atis site? im following the download wizard on amd.com which is a dead end because the 5000 series isn't supported.
[20:38] <Spanglish_7776> beat me to it
[20:38] <juancarlospaco> edeca: doesnt matter
[20:38] <Spanglish_7776> 1 > sorry
[20:38] <da> I'm using Ubuntu8.04 LTS for OS, but it wont play movies, need help
[20:38] <ikonia> cmp: you're going to have to learn the basics sooner or later, you can't keep asking in the channel for people to do it for you
[20:38] <edeca> juancarlospaco: 802.1d might help ,but not much
[20:39] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: how do i fix/workaround it
[20:39] <blakkheim> da: aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:39] <edeca> juancarlospaco: And 802.1d isn't easy to setup
[20:39] <ikonia> !video | da
[20:39] <erUSUL> dfgh: it was a guess on my part. i thought that last catalys would support latest cards ...
[20:39] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: is it an ati card ?
[20:39] <Cr33pz0r> yes
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> edeca: im CCNA, i think i can do it
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> :)
[20:39] <dfgh> erUSUL: alright, thanks
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> lol
[20:39] <da> okay, thank you
[20:39] <edeca> juancarlospaco: If you're a CCNA, you should know how to use google.
[20:39] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: frustrating, there isn't really a fix apart from use "fail safe" video mode when you boot
[20:39] <juancarlospaco> edeca: yes
[20:39] <blakkheim> edeca: nice
[20:39] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: I know that's not the solution you're looking for, but if you install ubuntu it should be fixable, just not on the livecd
[20:40] <Cr33pz0r> well can't get it installed without it lol
[20:40] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: ahh, that we can fix, use the alternative install CD
[20:40] <cmp> iam learing the way how i learn - and thanks for your advise and i will be so much appreciative again if you stop communicating with me and find some one else to enjoy the pressing down... now there is person who is teaching me the way which fits me - i dont learn by books. i learn by doing
[20:40] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: that's a curses based intaller so should work fine
[20:40] <juancarlospaco> edeca: but is not suggested to say "go and search google" on support chat, lol, i mean i looking for experiences by other users
[20:40] <edeca> juancarlospaco: Essentially, there is no portion in a wireless handshake that tells the router/base station what OS it is.  The only potential way is something higher level like 802.1d, but even then it's not going to be possible to restrict it to a specific OS
[20:40] <ikonia> cmp: the channel can't keep telling you what to do
[20:40] <edeca> juancarlospaco: Much less one distribution of an OS (e.g. Ubuntu/Debian/whatever)
[20:41] <ikonia> cmp: at some point you can use the help.ubuntu.com page to "do"
[20:41] <edeca> juancarlospaco: Ubuntu doesn't have different networking or drivers to Debian/Gentoo/Slackware/whatever, so there is no way to differentiate
[20:41] <ikonia> cmp: you don't have to just read it, you can "do it" too
[20:41] <juancarlospaco> edeca: maybe no distro but kernel linux
[20:41] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: you can't do it like that
[20:41] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: the best option would be to set the dhcp server to identify the client and not offer ip's to non-identified clients
[20:41] <juancarlospaco> edeca: plan: apt-mirror on the ubuntu wifi, Wsus on the windows wifi
[20:41] <edeca> juancarlospaco: 802.1d is as close as you will get to ethernet/wireless security.  And it's a pain.
[20:42] <socram> i've to kill pulseaudio whenever an app wants to use it, ie: fresh start: using vlc (ok sound), close vlc, open rythmbox (no sound) unless i kill pulseaudio. wtf?
[20:42] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: they will bond with the wireless access point, but not gain access to the network
[20:42] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: If i install with the alternate cd, can i install it on external without modifying my PC's HDD's?
[20:42] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: sure
[20:42] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone using UNR9.04 on an Acer Aspire ONE that is having issues with the battery (Says it has 2.5 hours left after full charge but only lasting like 40minutes tops)?
[20:42] <edeca> juancarlospaco: That's not an issue, surely?  You push DNS records to windows hosts and group policy for the wsus (off-topic) and set your linux hosts to a specific mirror
[20:42] <andruk> the recent kernel updates seem to have made my laptop unable to suspend correctly.  it worked before - how do i get suspend working correctly again?
[20:42] <cmp> ikonia, if the channel complains to you - then you have right to talk about them ... now please leave me to learn by my way
[20:42] <Diverdude> is there a tool integrated in ubuntu to calculate and compare checksums for files?
[20:42] <edeca> juancarlospaco: What I do on my network is "spoof" gb.archive.ubuntu.com to internal-mirror.lan
[20:42] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: i have experience on eth bond
[20:43] <server_side> does ubuntu support logitech webcams?
[20:43] <edeca> juancarlospaco: That way, when a laptop is inside the network it pulls from the local mirror.  When it is outside, it gets updates as normal
[20:43] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: So if i install and choose extranl hdd, my bootfile won't be affcted of the internal hd?
[20:43] <juancarlospaco> yes i know, but i want 2 different wifi
[20:43] <edeca> server_side: Some, yes
[20:43] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: I never said anything about eth bond ??
[20:43] <server_side> edeca, any specific models, or will any be ok?
[20:43] <juancarlospaco> ikonia: i know
[20:43] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: not if you install the boot loader on the external hard drive
[20:43] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: so why make a pointless comment /
[20:43] <edeca> server_side: Google it :)
[20:43] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: How would I do that?
[20:43] <server_side> edeca, have done no joy
[20:43] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: either way, this isn't anything to do with ubuntu any more
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> but you cant run wsus-like service on linux withtout virtual
[20:44] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: when you're installing it will ask you where you want to install the boot loader
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> not nicely
[20:44] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: of course you can
[20:44] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: of course you can
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> wsus runs on ubuntu?
[20:44] <edeca> WSUS is possible with samba.  But icky.
[20:44] <ikonia> juancarlospaco: no,
[20:44] <juancarlospaco> apt-get install wsus  xD
[20:44] <edeca> And that's not an ubuntu issue.
[20:44] <Cr33pz0r> ikonia: How can i found out what to enter as HD?
[20:45] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: during the installer it will identify your hard disks, make a note of them
[20:45] <juancarlospaco> thats right
[20:45] <juancarlospaco> anyways need 2 different wifi
[20:45] <Trek> thanks for the help erUSUL
[20:45] <juancarlospaco> would search the Wiki for that
[20:45] <erUSUL> Trek: no problem
[20:46] <juancarlospaco> Thanks
[20:46] <edeca> Probably not an ubuntu issue.  Go check 802.1x and see if that helps
[20:46] <cmp> jef91, i have got the folder which you told me about
[20:46] <cmp> and its contains 3 files jef91.
[20:46] <jef91> is there a flashplayer file there?
[20:46] <jef91> looking for libflashplayer.so
[20:46] <juancarlospaco> thank edeca, ikonia
[20:46] <Trek> erUSUL, one last question, is there a way to specify in iptables to block ICMP responses
[20:46] <jef91> cmp what are the three files?
[20:46] <chai_> a word of wisdom. do NOT "sudo apt-get remove --purge libasound2"
[20:47] <chai_> my ubuntu is hurting
[20:47] <Trek> lol chai_, did you do that?
[20:47] <cmp> can i send you the picture jef91?
[20:47] <chai_> yes lol
[20:47] <ikonia> cmp: https://help.ubuntu.com - learn how to look for files on the file system, that way you can let others help you rather than keep saying "how"
[20:47] <jef91> cmp tinypic.com
[20:47] <juancarlospaco> im using an old notebook with Quagga for router, dont want Samba or something like that
[20:47] <capron> I have problems with suspend,  Do it work when full crypt on hard disk is in use ?   Is it suppos to work on using ubutnu live ?
[20:47] <erUSUL> Trek: i'm sure there is; but i do not what it is :)
[20:47] <Trek> sudo apt-get remove --purge libasound2
[20:47] <Trek> !danger
[20:47] <ikonia> cmp: if you learn how to use the file browsers, you can let jef91 help you better
[20:47] <ikonia> Trek: he's telling us NOT to use that command
[20:47] <Trek> i know
[20:47] <Trek> :P
[20:47] <chai_> haha
[20:47] <chai_> nice
[20:47] <ikonia> Trek: so why hit it with Danger, it's not a dangeours command
[20:47] <`mOOse`> anybody set up tor with vidalia and prixoxy?
[20:48] <erUSUL> Trek: i use firewall apps like ufw firehol etc so i do not have to know the ugly details ....
[20:48] <`mOOse`> is the vidalia in synaptic give you all of that?
[20:48] <shushek> hello, last evening i tried Lucid 10.04 but i wasnt able to login after the installation... any advice why?
[20:48] <Trek> got it, ikonia
[20:48] <Trek> erUSUL, okay, thanks
[20:48] <edeca> shushek: #ubuntu+1
[20:48] <erUSUL> !lucid | shushek
[20:48] <chai_> ikonia, a ton of apps are removed if you get rid of it.. eclipse, java, chrome, amarok...
[20:48] <tassleho1f> I use gnome, but some kde-apps I just can't live without. Is there a way to make them look more gnome-ish?
[20:48] <Bookman> Does anyone have personal experience with an OKI B410D laser printer with Ubuntu?  Does it work properly without mucking about?
[20:48] <ikonia> chai_: I know
[20:49] <edeca> Bookman: Check linuxprinting.org
[20:49] <Bookman> edeca, Personal experience
[20:49] <edeca> Bookman: If that claims support, you should be fine
[20:49] <Bookman> edeca, I tried that before.
[20:49] <edeca> Bookman: Crikey chap, there are about a bajillion printers in the world and about 10 active users right now ;)
[20:50]  * erUSUL wonders what a bajillion is more or less than a googlo ?
[20:50] <chai_> i did so because i keep getting "libasound.so.2 no such file". i purged and reinstalled alsa-base alsa-utils and linux-sound-base. now very little applicatiosn work
[20:50] <edeca> erUSUL: Slightly over, I think
[20:50] <cmp> jef91, http://imagebin.ca/view/yOY-UKn.html     this is what i have
[20:52] <jef91> cmp run the following in terminal:    sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/flashplugin-alternative.so && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:54] <chronos-dmt> hi guys, i'm having problem with ubuntu 9.04
[20:54] <Dj_FlyBy> anyone using UNR9.04 on an Acer Aspire ONE that is having issues with the battery (Says it has 2.5 hours left after full charge but only lasting like 40minutes tops)?
[20:54] <chai_> few applications work now. can someone help explain how this can happen? http://pastebin.com/m7e81b96f
[20:54] <jef91> chronos-dmt just state the issue, if someone can help they will
[20:54] <cmp> this is the out put jef91 , http://pastebin.com/m17056058
[20:54] <chronos-dmt> jef91, : ok
[20:55] <KaiForce> I have a dual boot laptop with XP / Ubuntu 8.something.  I'd like to install 9.10 x64 on the partitions with Ubuntu on it, but I don't want to lose my boot manager (Truecrypt for encrypted Win system).  How to proceed?
[20:55] <erUSUL> chai_: run "sudo updatedb"
[20:55] <jef91> cmp run the following in terminal:    sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:55] <Jordan_U> chai_, locate keeps a cache, the files probably no longer exist
[20:55] <andruk> the recent kernel updates seem to have made my laptop unable to suspend correctly.  it worked before - how do i get suspend working correctly again?
[20:56] <jef91> andruk - boot into the older kernel?
[20:56] <chronos-dmt> my problem is: i'm using just terminal, so with minutes of inactivity my screen switch off, and i lost keyboard events. but every programs continues running.
[20:56] <chai_> erUSUL, Jordan_U, thanks, yea its not there. gonna compile alsa-lib and see if problems go away
[20:56] <erUSUL> chai_: really why not just install "ubuntu-desktop"  again ?
[20:57] <linusoleander> What does >& /dev/null & disown do ?
[20:57] <cmp> jef91, here is the output, http://pastebin.com/m7ea28784
[20:57] <anarkissed> im having issues with a realtek 8191se wireless adapter. It show up as "Unclaimed" in lshw -c Network....and dosent show up at all in Applications ->System Tools -> Device manager im on 9.10
[20:57] <chai_> erUSUL, how much of my configuration/files will be removed if i do so?
[20:57] <erUSUL> linusoleander: disown deatach the process from the shell so when you exit the shell the process continue running
[20:57] <luisito> holss
[20:57] <erUSUL> linusoleander: is like nohup
[20:57] <luisito> hola
[20:58] <jef91> cmp do you have synaptic open?
[20:58] <erUSUL> !es | luisito
[20:58] <luisito> hello
[20:58] <cmp> yes - jef91 .
[20:58] <erUSUL> linusoleander: &> redirects bot stdin and stdout to /dev/null
[20:58] <linusoleander> erUSUL: nohup look nice
[20:58] <linusoleander> Thanks
[20:58] <cmp> i closed it now . should i do the order again . jef91
[20:58] <luisito> hello?
[20:58] <erUSUL> !hi | luisito
[20:58] <jef91> cmp just the second part
[20:59] <Trek> for openssh-server, how do I restart the server?
[20:59] <edeca> Trek: /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[20:59] <luisito> hello what your name
[20:59] <edeca> Trek: Oops, ssh restart
[20:59] <edeca> !hello | luisito
[20:59] <blakkheim> edeca: it's just ssh, not sshd for me (usually it's sshd but not on ubuntu)
[20:59] <edeca> blakkheim: Yes, my mistake :)
[20:59] <Jordan_U> chai_, No configuration files should be lost if you re-install a package. Is there a reason you suspect they would be?
[20:59] <luisito> :D
[20:59] <erUSUL> luisito: this is a support channel to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <Trek> edeca: thanks
[21:00] <luisito> is in espanis
[21:00] <erUSUL> luisito: for spanish chat go to #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[21:00] <anarkissed> Anyone have experience w/wireless networking specifiacally realtek in 9.10
[21:00] <chai_> Jordan_U, ok thanks. no reason in specific, just wanted to make sure
[21:01] <luisito> hello!!
[21:01] <Jordan_U> chai_, np
[21:01] <cmp> jef91, here is what i got http://pastebin.com/m5848c35
[21:02] <mcurran> Anyone know if a DMZ host would share the public ip-address, or is it assigned a separate one?
[21:03] <sebastian> hello
[21:03] <edeca> mcurran: It depends how you do it.  Generally a separate IP
[21:03] <Trek> edeca, thanks
[21:03] <sebastian> what is newest kernel ?
[21:03] <edeca> mcurran: If you only have one IP and a clever router/gateway, you can map the ports required to the internal DMZ IP
[21:04] <Cr33pz0r> Swap should that be logical or primary?
[21:04] <ikonia> Cr33pz0r: doesn't matter
[21:04] <erUSUL> Cr33pz0r: does not matter
[21:04] <blakkheim> sebastian: www.kernel.org
[21:04] <edeca> Cr33pz0r: No matter.  But really, swap? :)
[21:04] <chai_> ok well the reason i got into all this libasound trouble (now fixed) is because i upgraded my kernel and the sound stopped working. In gnome-volume-control I have a "dummy output" and no hardware devices
[21:04]  * edeca doesn't often build boxes with swap any more
[21:04] <sebastian> should I download newest or older will be better ?
[21:04] <ikonia> sebastian: newest/oldest what ?
[21:04] <Trek> !search dhcp
[21:04] <jef91> cmp - let me just make this easy, save this to a .sh file and run it: http://pastebin.com/m336a772c
[21:04] <blakkheim> sebastian: i prefer newest
[21:05] <Trek> what are the dhcp#-server packages for?
[21:05] <blakkheim> sebastian: but i run an older kernel on my server
[21:05] <sebastian> kernel
[21:05] <ikonia> Trek: dhcp servers
[21:05] <edeca> Trek: There are client and server packages
[21:05] <da> ubottu what happens if I don't use free formats?
[21:05] <erUSUL> sebastian: use the one that comes with the version of ubuntu you are running
[21:05] <sebastian> ok
[21:05] <mcurran> So it doesn't have to be static, it can be a dhcp ip?  Well I'm trying to figure out what the ip would be to connect remotely, so I would need to know if the public-ip redirects to the DMZ once it's setup
[21:05] <erUSUL> sebastian: just make sure you have linux-image installed
[21:05] <Trek> ikonia / edeca: if something recommends to install dhcp3-server, should I do it, or just leave it be?
[21:05] <luisito> hello
[21:05] <edeca> mcurran: Simply give the DMZ host a separate IP
[21:05] <edeca> Trek: What are you trying to do?
[21:06] <edeca> mcurran: Then map the ports across
[21:06] <Trek> ikonia / edeca: its not a prereq, was just wondering
[21:06] <ikonia> Trek: depends if you want a dhcp server on your machine
[21:06] <edeca> Trek: Eh, if it's not needed, don't install it :)
[21:06] <luisito> joe to el rato
[21:06] <sebastian> how to check my kernel version i terminal ?
[21:06] <da> ubottu: what if I don't use free formats?
[21:06] <ikonia> sebastian: uname -a
[21:06] <chai_> sebastian uname -r
[21:06] <chai_> :P either way
[21:06] <sebastian> :)
[21:06] <ikonia> luisito: english only please
[21:06] <mcurran> Okay, so I would still connect to the router and then communicate through port forwarding
[21:06] <luisito> mi name is luis you¿?
[21:06] <Trek> i hear you there, edeca.  ikonia, if I don't need a DHCP server for my system, I don't need to install it, correct?
[21:06] <xangua> !es | luisito
[21:06] <ikonia> luisito: ikonia is my nick name, and you're in a channel to support ubuntu
[21:07] <luisito> si¿?
[21:07] <sebastian> Linux sebastian-laptop 2.6.31-19-generic   that is good ?
[21:07] <ikonia> Trek: pretty much, why install something you don't want or need
[21:07] <ikonia> sebastian: that's current
[21:07] <sebastian> so the best ?
[21:07] <ikonia> sebastian: no, the most current
[21:07] <linusoleander> erUSUL: I cant see the prosess when using nohup, ps aux | grep script does not show
[21:07] <ikonia> sebastian: use what ubuntu gives you
[21:07] <mcurran> I thought DMZ made all ports directly open to internet on a separate ip e.g. 74.123.1.25 and not like 192.168.1.1
[21:07] <cmp> jef91, do you mind to tell me how to open .sh file ?
[21:07] <mcurran> I'll read up on it a bit more, thanks for the input
[21:08] <chai_> sebastian, if you do sudo aptitude safe-upgrade, you will be upgraded to the most current kernel (and applications)
[21:08] <sebastian> ikonia : repeat the question
[21:08] <ikonia> cmp: if you know the basics people can help you
[21:08] <edeca> mcurran: No, the idea of a DMZ is simply to separate external services onto another box
[21:08] <ikonia> cmp: please please please read https://help.ubuntu.com it gives you a good basic introduction to how to use ubuntu
[21:08] <ikonia> sebastian: I repeat the answer, use what ubuntu gives you,
[21:08] <jef91> cmp - open gedit, save the contents of that pastebin to flashinstall.sh
[21:08] <edeca> chai_: You need ot full-upgrade for kernels generally
[21:08] <mcurran> okay
[21:08] <cmp> ikonia... STOPPPPPPPP IITTTTTTTTT
[21:08] <sebastian> I dont understand
[21:08] <mzuverink> how to rid loginsequence of brown ubuntu logo w/ slider?
[21:08] <ikonia> sebastian: if ubuntu offers you a kernel, use it
[21:08] <Niku_baiviku> hi guys
[21:08] <sebastian> ok
[21:08] <jef91> cmp - then right click on the saved file and change its properties so it can be executed
[21:08] <sebastian> i will upgrade
[21:09] <jef91> then run the file in terminal
[21:09] <Niku_baiviku> how can i go from ubuntu 9.10 to 9.04
[21:09] <Niku_baiviku> ?
[21:09] <ikonia> Niku_baiviku: you can't
[21:09] <mcurran> edeca:  Are you familiar with ettercap or arp spoofing?
[21:09] <edeca> Niku_baiviku: A complete reinstall
[21:09] <chai_> edeca, i'll remember that, thanks
[21:09] <edeca> mcurran: Yes.  But that's not a discussion for here really.
[21:09] <edeca> mcurran: PM me if you want to discuss it.
[21:09] <Niku_baiviku> i have the install cd.. but it wont work
[21:09] <mcurran> okay
[21:09] <obiwan_> hey guys, somebody here told me some days ago that there's no framebuffer on X, just fb emulators. I read bout text-mode, and virtual framebuffers. But i don't know how to enable framebuffer for the consoles in alt+ctr+f* could you help me?
[21:09] <Niku_baiviku> it worked when i installed it over win
[21:10] <Trek> ikonia: if I"m installing WireShark to monitor the packets coming into / going out of my system, and it suggests adns-tools to be installed, should I install it?
[21:10] <ikonia> Trek: do you want them ?
[21:10] <ikonia> Trek: it's all about what you wnat on your box
[21:10] <Trek> ikonia: whats the purpose of adns-tools?
[21:10] <ikonia> Trek: basically dns interaction tools
[21:11] <xen> hey wat torrent client do u guyzz use??
[21:11] <mzuverink> want to go back to a login manager like previous gdm login managers, is that possible?
[21:11] <edeca> xen: ctorrent or rtorrent
[21:11] <chai_> xen transmission
[21:11] <sebastian> transmission
[21:11] <Trek> ikonia: thanks.
[21:11] <Trek> one last question (NOTE: there will be more)
[21:11] <texas319> hey good Ubuntu folks
[21:11] <daftykins> whatever works for you torrent.
[21:11] <xen> any issues wid ktorrent??
[21:11] <edeca> xen: Try it and see.
[21:11] <xen> i guess m having some speed issues
[21:11] <KaiForce> I have a 64bit 9.1 CD.  Can I upgrade my 8.x Ubuntu install without changing my boot configuration?
[21:11] <texas319> can i bring over fonts from XP
[21:11] <cmp> jef91, i have done it and i saved it on my Desktop . and i changed it to the    ( allow excuting file as program)
[21:11] <Trek> is there a way to change the number of times sudo prompts for a password before the command needs to be reentered?
[21:12] <texas319> there are 1 or 2 i must have
[21:12] <Trek> in sudoers maybe?
[21:12] <myk_robinson> just bought a new ASUS laptop, installed Ubuntu on it and all is well except I cannot scroll on my touchpad. Any ideas?
[21:12] <sebastian> can I install KDE in ubuntu ?
[21:12] <ikonia> kaziem: you need an alternative cd
[21:12] <texas319> for me to fully convert
[21:12] <jef91> cmp double click it and select run in terminal
[21:12] <ikonia> sebastian: yes
[21:12] <xen> thnxx edeca...
[21:12] <jef91> sebastian yes
[21:12] <ikonia> sebastian: the package is kubuntu-desktop
[21:12] <xen> any issues wid ktorrent?
[21:12] <johnzorn> can ubuntu netbook remix be installed onto ubuntu 9.10 64 bit?
[21:12] <lucasicf> sebastian, install package kubuntu-desktop
[21:12] <guntbert> Trek: I generally ignore "suggested" packages unless they offer something I want
[21:12] <sebastian> Can I go back to gnome after install kde ?
[21:12] <jef91> sebastian yes
[21:12] <ikonia> sebastian: sure, it doesn't remove gnome
[21:12] <Trek> guntbert: got it, i already dealt with the suggested packages thing
[21:12] <sebastian> how ?
[21:12] <bwallen> My machine sounds like it's constantly powering off and on my second hard drive. What causes this?
[21:12] <guntbert> Trek: :)
[21:13] <MoLoot> sebastian, yes, and you can switch back and forth on your login screen too
[21:13] <fieldse> Anyone know a quick and dirty way to -sequentially- rename a batch of files?
[21:13] <cmp> jef91, it was running and then disappeared
[21:13] <echa> how do i disable CTL-ALT-DEL shutdown in Ubuntu 9.10 server?
[21:13] <jef91> cmp try flash
[21:13] <mzuverink> fieldse, try naut-scripts?
[21:13] <erUSUL> fieldse: sequentally ? give cirrent name and proposed name
[21:13] <sebastian> Ok thanks all
[21:13] <dfgh> I hear a high pitch sound from my brand new laptop. This only happens in win7, not ubuntu. Because I have ati drivers in win7, and not in ubuntu, I suspect it might have something to do with the graphics card. Does this sound reasonable?
[21:14] <sebastian> oh
[21:14] <sebastian> one question: kde4 will run on hp mini ?
[21:14] <lucasicf> how do i install the boot screen of ubuntu?
[21:14] <lucasicf> because i changed from kubuntu to ubuntu
[21:14] <ikonia> dfgh: contact your hardware vendor,
[21:14] <ikonia> dfgh: best option
[21:14] <fieldse> mzuverink, erUSUL :  For example, name.jpg, nameetc.jpg, othername.jpg to convert to 1.jpg 2.jpg 3.jpg
[21:14] <dfgh> ikonia: yeah, I might report it to asus 'cause it's driving me nuts
[21:14] <cmp> i went to youtube now to check it - and it asks me for getting latest flash player  jef91.
[21:14] <mzuverink> fieldse, yes
[21:15] <daftykins> dfgh: boot win7 in safe mode. does the sound remain?
[21:15] <dfgh> daftykins: i'll check
[21:15] <Trek> two questions (ikonia and erUSUL, you might be of help).  I'm trying to edit stuff in my own home directory, its running into errors where sudo needs to be used, how can I get rid of that?  and how can I increase the number of times sudo prompts for the password before abort?
 kaziem: you need an alternative cd
[21:15] <kaziem> ?
[21:15] <jef91> cmp run the script from terminal: cd ~/Desktop && sudo ./flashinstall.sh
[21:15] <kaziem> i didn't ask anything ikonia
[21:15] <datta> can anyone please help me to make my ubuntu faster, any sites or tricks as i see that ubuntu 8.04 the last lts is really slow
[21:15] <ikonia> kaziem: sorry, miss-nick'd
[21:15] <erUSUL> fieldse: something like --> i=1 ; for f in *; do mv "$f" "$i" $((i++)); done
[21:15] <kaziem> =)
[21:15] <sebastian> one question: kde4 will run on hp mini ?
[21:15] <lucasicf> how do i install the boot screen of ubuntu? because i changed from kubuntu to ubuntu..
[21:15] <ikonia> datta: what's slow /
[21:16] <fieldse> mzuverink, not finding naut-scripts. is a package?
[21:16] <cmp> jef91, you mean to copy this what you gave me now in a terminal and run it -- or iam wrong ?
[21:16] <datta> ikonia ubuntu 8.04 is really slow as when i click for firefox 3.6 i have to click double times to make it open
[21:16] <jef91> cmp yes
[21:16] <ikonia> datta: how much ram do you have ?
[21:16] <fieldse> erUSUL, cool, ok: so, "for f" means for all files, right?
[21:17] <xtomhe> #xpud
[21:17] <zeenix> hi
[21:17] <datta> ikonia i have a 4 gig ram
[21:17] <mzuverink> fieldse, use synaptic and search for nautilus, might be called fomething sim, but get the svn .dep too
[21:17] <ikonia> datta: what video card ?
[21:17] <zeenix> somehow my encrypted partitions are decrypted twice on boot-up
[21:17] <erUSUL> fieldse: sorry typo something like --> i=1 ; for f in *; do mv "$f" "$i" i=$((i++)); done
[21:17] <erUSUL> fieldse: totally untested
[21:18] <cmp> jef91, here is the output http://pastebin.com/m69a8d67a
[21:18] <fieldse> erUSUL, thanks, testing now
[21:18] <erUSUL> fieldse: sorry typo again devil is on the details  --> i=1 ; for f in *; do mv "$f" "$i"; i=$((i++)); done
[21:18] <jef91> cmp do you understand errors at all? Didn't you save the the pastebin to flashinstall.sh on your desktop?
[21:18] <fieldse> erUSUL, would i do this is a bash script then?
[21:18] <zeenix> and i have to type my password like 6 times
[21:19] <`mOOse`> what's the correct command/syntax for searching for a file?
[21:19] <fieldse> erUSUL, or can i pass this from command line
[21:19] <ikonia> cmp: you must see the problem you are causing jef91 trying to help you
[21:19] <ikonia> cmp: please please read the basics on https://help.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <erUSUL> the one liner should do
[21:19] <ikonia> cmp: if you understand the basics it takes minutes to walk you through this sort of solution
[21:19] <cmp> will you stop helping me jef91 . ?
[21:19] <ikonia> cmp: the guide on https://help.ubuntu.com will give you a really good basic introductin
[21:20] <Trek> two questions (ikonia and erUSUL, you might be of help).  I'm trying to edit stuff in my own home directory, its running into errors where sudo needs to be used, how can I get rid of that?  and how can I increase the number of times sudo prompts for the password before abort?
[21:20] <luisito> hola
[21:20] <luisito> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[21:20] <ikonia> Trek: make sure all the files in your home dir are owned by you
[21:20] <datta> ikonia sorry i do not have the slightest clue
[21:21] <ikonia> Trek: the ammount of times sudo prompts you would be a pam option.....I think, I've never set that
[21:21] <ikonia> datta: lspci should give you a solid clue
[21:21] <cmp> jef91, i saved it really on the desktop ... i even see it now
[21:21] <jef91> cmp Its getting annoying to say the least. What is the file name?
[21:21] <chai_> Trek, you can  "sudo su" if you know what you're doing and are careful
[21:21] <ikonia> cmp: please don't recommend that
[21:21] <galym> can anyone give me the name of programmers' room
[21:21] <ikonia> Trek: please don't run that command
[21:21] <mcurran> to do that would you use:  chown -R <username> <folder or file>
[21:21] <ikonia> galym: look in freenode.net or in #freenode for channel help
[21:22] <chai_> ikonia, you meant to say that to me or cmp?
[21:22] <erUSUL> fieldse: ok; #bash shaked out the details is --> i=1 ; for f in *; do mv "$f" "$i"; ((i++)); done
[21:22] <mcurran> what is the own number for root
[21:22] <Trek> chai_ i'm a server admin so I'm familiar with being safe with superuser
[21:22] <ikonia> chai_: you
[21:22] <ikonia> cmp: sorry - didn't mean for you to "not" run that command
[21:22] <ikonia> Trek: I find that hard to believe or you wouldn't be asking how to set permissions on a home directory or what a dhcp server does
[21:22] <mcurran> no i was wondering if that command was right
[21:22] <Trek> ikonia: i'm not running CLI right this second
[21:22] <johnzorn> can ubuntu netbook remix be installed onto ubuntu 9.10 64 bit?
[21:22] <Trek> ikonia: and I"ve never run into this issue
[21:22] <Trek> ikonia: and I"ve never run into this issue before *
[21:23] <cmp> jef91, the file name is   ( unsaved document 1 )
[21:23] <datta> ikonia here is the list http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d73bbb18d
[21:23] <jef91> johnzorn just look for the netbook launcher package
[21:23] <ikonia> Trek: cli means nothing to permissions or dchp servers
[21:23] <Trek> ikonia: lol, i realize that, but remember: this issue NEVER occured before with ANY Ubuntu install I have done
[21:23] <ikonia> datta: it's possible the intel card is not using the correct xorg driver,
[21:23] <jef91> cmp - save the file as "flashinstall.sh"
[21:23] <johnzorn> ok thanks jef91
[21:23] <jef91> cmp as I said the first time /sigh
[21:24] <cmp> ok jef91
[21:24] <fieldse> erUSUL, cool - now I save this to a bash script, #! /bin/bash and then how do I call it when I am in the directory?
[21:24] <ikonia> Trek: that doesn't change your in ability to set file permissions or know what a dhcp server is, which is core basic admin tasks
[21:24] <ikonia> cmp: honestly https://help.ubuntu.com it will make working with people like jef91 easier and less frustrating for them
[21:24] <Trek> ikonia: lol, i guess you're right, I admin my own personal server that doesn't assign DCHP or anything
[21:24] <datta> ikonia: maybe
[21:24] <Trek> ikonia: it holds my data, thats all I need to know :P
[21:24] <ikonia> Trek: ok - so not a server admin then
[21:25] <Trek> ikonia: not PUBLIC server admin, no
[21:25] <ikonia> Trek: so first thing, make sure your home dir permissions are set right
[21:25] <ikonia> Trek: that will be the core of it (I'll bet)
[21:25] <erUSUL> fieldse: no that works in the command line
[21:25] <jef91> cmp run the script from terminal: cd ~/Desktop && sudo ./flashinstall.sh
[21:26] <erUSUL> fieldse: just cd to the directory and run « i=1 ; for f in *; do mv "$f" "$i" ; ((i++)) ; done »
[21:26] <fieldse> erUSUL, Oh, NICE
[21:26] <zeenix> so no one have any clue about encrypted filesystem?
[21:26] <caravel24> hi. looking for oss for calendar sharing (small workgroup including mobile users) WITHOUT server (p2p ?). Any alternative to m$ groove ? Current apps are Thunderbird (Lightning is an option) and Kontact, migration to Ubuntu underway. Any advice ? thanks
[21:26] <fieldse> erUSUL, You are a god.  Now if I can just figure out how to save this as a nautilus script, I'm f*ckin golden
[21:26] <ikonia> caravel24: sunbird
[21:26] <Trek> ikonia: quick overview of how to set the permissions on my own home folder so that I can have full read/write access?
[21:27] <Trek> ikonia: FYI: i'm under SuperUser right now
[21:27] <ikonia> Trek: are you kidding me ?
[21:27] <Spanglish_7776> :O
[21:27] <ikonia> Trek: you're telling me you admin your own servers and you don't know how to set permissions ?
[21:27] <ikonia> Trek: man chmod
[21:27] <SimTastick> What are the best Hardware support lists that I can vote or post that my hardware is working?
[21:27] <Trek> *sigh* ikonia: i'm unfamiliar with chown
[21:27] <ikonia> Trek: use the gui
[21:27] <caravel24> ikonia: thanks - I thought Sunbird was just the standalone version of MozCalendar (?) any network feature I missed ?
[21:27] <cmp> jef91, after i changed and saved the name exactly as you told me .... i have repeated the command you told me and i have got this output      http://pastebin.com/m5dbb0be1
[21:27] <erUSUL> fieldse: well not that god. you wanted to preserve the extension. that cli do not preserve it ...
[21:28] <Trek> okay, i'll try that ikonia
[21:28] <cmp> ikonia. for god sake - let me learn by my own way ...
[21:28] <cmp> ikonia.. please
[21:28] <ikonia> caravel24:look at using it with caldev or webdav
[21:28] <fieldse> erUSUL, *nods*, trying to figure that out right now
[21:28] <Trek> goodbye.  (and Ikonia, PLEASE don't berate me... its ANNOYING)
[21:28] <ikonia> cmp: you've been trying for 3 days, with multiple people, can you not see how frustrating it is
[21:28] <cmp> ikonia, this is my who is learning not your child
[21:28] <caravel24> ikonia: therefore WITH a server ;-)
[21:28] <ikonia> caravel24: sorry, I may have miss-understood your question, re-ask
[21:28] <seanbrystone> Anyone else having problem of running *ANY* packet sniffer (Wireshark ETC) with Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit? It locks up the computer completely
[21:28] <cmp> three days not asking you ikonia. dont you see this - cant you see that iam telling you dont help me ?
[21:29] <chai_> ok i have SOME sound. seems like a permissions issue now. if I do "sudo aplay soundfile.wav" I get output, but without sudo, i get nothing, no sound cards found
[21:29] <ikonia> cmp: no-one is helping you because you're not familier with the very basics, this problem is quick to resolve if you can just understand a little of basics
[21:29] <cmp> jef91 is helping me now - just stay AWAYYYYYYYYYY
[21:29] <`mOOse`> !!!
[21:29] <seanbrystone> lol
[21:30] <caravel24> ikonia: no worries -- any-type-of-server is NOT an option at the moment, hence looking for p2p serverless clients. And so far I only could find proprietary apps for calendar sharing (eg. Microsoft Groove)
[21:30] <jef91> I;ve got no idea cmp - make a forum post with that output. Seems like you've jacked up your flash install nicely
[21:30] <ikonia> caravel24: ahh ok, so you want it networked, but not centralised
[21:31] <Pelias> hi
[21:31] <caravel24> ikonia: yep. I wish peerfuse was mature, for example
[21:31] <fieldse> erUSUL, Heh. Well, at least I figured out how to manually type proper extension. awesome, thanks
[21:31] <codelemur> Is this the right place to ask about hardware compatibility? I've seen conflicting information on the forums and docs as to whether or not a specific wireless chipset is compatible.
[21:31] <cmp> so you think i should reinstall my ubuntu jef91?
[21:31] <Pelias> what is "htmode" and more importantly - where do I find things like that?
[21:31] <jef91> cmp thats an easy fix yes, but it would work yes lol
[21:33] <ikonia> caravel24: I see what you're asking, can't think of anything that would work without a dirty hack
[21:33] <cmp> even with no success by your trails to help me - still iam so thankful for you and hope iam not annoying you ..
[21:33] <caravel24> ikonia: (peefuse would permit Kontact or Lightning/Sunbird, I assume, to reload read-only calendars from p2p fs)
[21:33] <ikonia> caravel24: yeah, you'd have to re-load to reparse the files
[21:33] <FatsDT> Would anyone know how to disable the 3-finger simulated right click on my synaptics touchpad.  I attemped to do it by editing an xml file in /usr/share/hal, but that didn't work.
[21:34] <caravel24> ikonia: yep -- thanks anyway for searching your brain
[21:34] <ikonia> caravel24: tricky one you've got there
[21:34] <`mOOse`> I just need to find out where this vidalia install put tor...there's a simple one for ya!
[21:34] <gavintlgold> hello, I recently did a clean windows 7 install (as an upgrade from XP) and then went back and installed a new Ubuntu over it. Everything went fine until I booted back into windows, windows did a file system check, I used windows a bit, then restarted. Now grub is stuck in a rebooting loop. it gets to "Loading GRUB..." and then instantly reboots (before the options show up)
[21:34] <cmp> at least you reached the end with me jef91 till the laaaaast step - some others really dont
[21:34] <jef91>  cmp - you really should go read some bash basics though
[21:34] <gavintlgold> to confirm, I was able to boot into both OSes at least once
[21:34] <seanbrystone> Anyone else having problem of running *ANY* packet sniffer (Wireshark ETC) with Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit? It locks up the computer completely
[21:35] <ikonia> jef91: the "welcome to ubuntu guide" on https://help.ubuntu.com is where I've been pushing him for days
[21:35] <ikonia> caravel24: I wonder if holding it on ram disk, or a cluster FS would work due to change pickup
[21:35] <gavintlgold> I didn't have this problem with my xp/ubuntu dual-boot before I reinstalled
[21:36] <cmp> i will, i didnt say that i will not - and i never thought only to depend on some one as this LORD ikonia . thinks ... but you cant drive car by reading books- you need to put your self inside and some body should be with you - so you can learn even if you do  mistakes jef91.
[21:36] <gavintlgold> it reboots after a split-second of showing the GRUB screen
[21:37] <ikonia> cmp: the guide I'm pushing you at is not just for reading, it has stuff to do too
[21:37] <gavintlgold> and continues to do so indefinitely
[21:37] <ikonia> cmp: so that's the "doing it" you want
[21:37] <arand> cmp: If you look in the /var/cache/flashplugin directory what's there?
[21:37] <jolaren> Can anyone recomend a program to meet how stable your connection is? Like how many precent of icmp pings goes forward or smth
[21:38] <ikonia> jolaren: ntop maybe ?
[21:38] <edeca> jolaren: There are various socket stress programs
[21:38] <rahduke> help me, im on my laptop in my car, im stuck in a snowbank, my cell phone is dead...
[21:38] <rahduke> ive emailed everyone i know, i cant get in touch with the police
[21:38] <thinkbinary> hola
[21:38] <thinkbinary> hi
[21:38] <thinkbinary> all
[21:38] <ikonia> rahduke: please stop messing around
[21:38] <christopherdst-1> rahduke: lol
[21:38] <jolaren> ikonia; I will check that out, I'm most curious about how many packets sent to my router via wifi is getting thro
[21:38] <erUSUL> fieldse: after playing a bit .. to preserve extensions --> i=1 ; for f in *; do ext=${f##*.} ; mv "$f" "$i"."$ext" ; ((i++)) ; done
[21:39] <chai_> At this point, i still can only use audio as root: http://pastebin.com/m6df5b2e0 I added myself to the "audio" group, and still no luck
[21:39] <erUSUL> fieldse: shorter version --> i=1 ; for f in *; do  mv "$f" "$i"."${f##*.}" ; ((i++)) ; done
[21:39] <fieldse> erUSUL, Weird. So what does the f## stand for?
[21:39] <erUSUL> fieldse: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/073
[21:39] <edeca> erUSUL: I love bash :)
[21:40] <cmp> arand, there is not flashplugin directory in there
[21:40] <erUSUL> edeca: :)
[21:40] <mallory> hi everyone, i am new to linux and and recently installed ubuntu 9.10 on my other laptop, a dell inspiron 1520 and the wireless card isn't working at all.  i had this problem on a previous laptop, but it was a simple fix just by updating the driver through hardware drivers thing. anyone know how to help me?
[21:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> Anyone need some help?
[21:41] <mallory> I need help!
[21:41] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C, yes :P
[21:41] <`mOOse`> yea SpaceGhostC2C I do lol
[21:41] <erUSUL> mallory: what is the wifi chip ? broadcom ?
[21:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> Okay, what are these questions?
[21:41] <mallory> I believe that is
[21:41] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C,  I recently did a clean windows 7 install (as an upgrade from XP) and then went back and installed a new Ubuntu over it. Everything went fine until I booted back into windows, windows did a file system check, I used windows a bit, then restarted. Now grub is stuck in a rebooting loop. it gets to "Loading GRUB..." and then instantly reboots (before the options show up)
[21:41] <mallory> I can get the exact version if you want
[21:41] <`mOOse`> what's the syntax/command to find a file?
[21:41] <etsorbme8> SpaceGhostC2C:   i am having problems configuring for two instances of squid running on the same box see http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2a8d5bf1
[21:41] <Geoffrey2> !java
[21:41] <ikonia> `mOOse`: command is find
[21:41] <fieldse> erUSUL, cool
[21:42] <erUSUL> mallory: just « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter && sudo modprobe -r b43 && sudo modprobe b43 »
[21:42] <arand> cmp: and if you do "ls -l /var/cache" (!pastebin) what shows there?
[21:42] <`mOOse`> thanks ikonia
[21:42] <KaiForce> anyone installed Ubuntu on a Windows system that already has Truecrypt encryption installed?
[21:42] <alabd> what's the problem with this ?how to fix ?http://pastebin.com/m27b8fcbd
[21:42] <erUSUL> mallory: while connected to internet by other means (wired)
[21:42] <SimTastick> What is best Hardware support lists that I can vote or post that my hardware is working?
[21:42] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C, I think windows modified the MBR or something. a real pain. It's never done this before
[21:43] <arand> alabd: most likely a problem at the server end of the ubuntu keyserver.
[21:43] <mallory> i'm actually on my other laptop, the dell inspiron will not even work with a wired connection...it only stays connected for like a minute
[21:43] <cmp> arand, here is the output http://pastebin.com/m668e16dd
[21:43] <arand> alabd: hang on, sorry, misread the thing..
[21:43] <erUSUL> mallory: :/
[21:44] <alabd> any other server ?
[21:44] <erUSUL> mallory: the sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter need to dwonload two tarballs ...
[21:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> gavintlgold, my initial thought is to look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 The idea is to chroot into your ubuntu partition and mount the necessary file systems and what have you, then install grub into /boot on the ubuntu install not the livecd, which you are booted from.
[21:45] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C, I have a feeling windows is just going to fart on it again :P
[21:45] <mallory> erUSUL: i will try as soon as I can figure out how to get this wired connection to work
[21:45] <cryptk> hey, I have a problem installing themes... the appearance manager says that the theme is installed but they don't appear in the list... this has happened with multiple themes now...
[21:45] <Trek> one final question then I'm gone for a while
[21:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> gavintlgold, try to install grub from the livecd with the chroot and then reboot, if that fails, let me know. I have more ideas.
[21:46] <cryptk> actually, every theme I have attempted to install... none of them show up in the window for me to select them
[21:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> Trek, what's the question>
[21:46] <Trek> how do I reset the screen res to initial configuration?
[21:46] <Trek> as in the resolution that was assigned when installed/
[21:46] <SpaceGhostC2C> Trek, if you remove your xorg.conf it'll generate a new one for you.
[21:46] <Geoffrey2> anyone know of a how-to for getting 64 bit java set up that isn't three years out of date?
[21:46] <erUSUL> Geoffrey2: java plugin for firefox?
[21:46] <Trek> where's xorg.conf stored?
[21:47] <arand> cmp: Hmm, if you simply "sudo mkdir /var/cache/flashplugin-installer" and then run "sudo apt-get install -f"
[21:47] <dbluefield> Hi Folks:)
[21:47] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C, all right, i'm on it. Right before the problem happened windows queued itself for an update. IT was about to restart to finish the update when it failed
[21:47] <Geoffrey2> erUSUL, yes..I'm running the AMD64 version of ubuntu
[21:47] <Geoffrey2> Karmic, specifically
[21:47] <caravel24> ikonia: a ram disk or a cluster fs would both require the logic of a server again, right ? ^^
[21:47] <seanbrystone> Anyone else having problem of running *ANY* packet sniffer (Wireshark ETC) with Ubuntu 9.10 64 bit? It locks up the computer completely
[21:47] <erUSUL> Geoffrey2: best bet is to use icedtea6-plugin
[21:47] <erUSUL> !info icedtea6-plugin
[21:48] <dbluefield> Ubuntu newb here -- I've spent 2 days tring to get appearance affects and my sound card running....anyone care to help?
[21:48] <dbluefield> I'm Loving Linux overall:)
[21:48] <SpaceGhostC2C> gavintlgold, okay. Try thegrub install from livecd, then you should boot into ubuntu then restart and boot into windows then go back to ubuntu. If it fails, come back here
[21:48] <roman> halllo
[21:48] <erUSUL> Geoffrey2: wait in karmic there is sun-java6-plugin for 64 bit ....
[21:49] <Guest33838> ich komme aus polen
[21:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, you should get your hardware drivers first, what ubuntu distro did you use? {K,X}ubuntu?
[21:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> !de | Guest33838
[21:49] <PenCapChew> Trek, you there?
[21:49] <bestja> \who
[21:49] <cmp> arand, here is the output ..... http://pastebin.com/m2b55fa25
[21:49] <guntbert> SpaceGhostC2C: how about suggesting to rename a config file instead of removing it?
[21:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> etsorbme8, I am looking for a solution. give me  asec
[21:50] <actarus> hello, sorry, somebody know how to change the password of phpmyadmin? #1045 - Access denied for user 'phpmyadmin'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[21:50] <SpaceGhostC2C> guntbert, feel free to :)
[21:50] <PenCapChew> A guy name Trek i was talking to at another site
[21:50] <etsorbme8> SpaceGhostC2C: thanks for looking
[21:50] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C, that is a very old howto, and I think it deals with an older version of GRUB
[21:51] <gavintlgold> SpaceGhostC2C, I can't run the first command "grub" since it's not installed
[21:51] <arand> cmp: Soo, something is seriously messy with the /var/cache/flashplugin-installer I would assume... Not sure but I would run an fsck in this case..
[21:51] <zilkomaa> How safe is use ubuntu 9.10 without any firewall?
[21:51] <maurizios> hi
[21:51] <maurizios> !list
[21:51] <guntbert> SpaceGhostC2C: no - I'm talking in earnest: it is bad advice to remove a config file
[21:51] <Brian_H> does anyone know how to pass apt-get options to a preseed file? I need to pass Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth=0 to my ubuntu network installer
[21:51] <erUSUL> zilkomaa: by default no program listenning on any port...
[21:51] <cmp> ok - how can i do it arand , ?
[21:52] <phpito> Hi
[21:52] <PenCapChew> Trek?
[21:52] <cryptk> does anyone know why the themes I am trying to install will not show up in the window for me to select them
[21:52] <zilkomaa> erUSUL: Oki.
[21:52] <phpito> Alguém em Brazil?
[21:52] <PenCapChew> I'm having major issues
[21:52] <sile> Hi! I have a very stupid problem, every time I try to empty the trash can I click "Remove From Panel" unconsciously. Is there a way to make a panel unremovable, or should I go to the doctor to check my mind?
[21:52] <zilkomaa> Can i run already installed windows xp with virtualbox?
[21:52] <SpaceGhostC2C> guntbert, I've been using ubuntu for four and a half years. The xorg conf file is regenerated, as in it doesn't break anything.
[21:53] <Geoffrey2> ok, supposedly there is some quirk in the java plugin that keeps it from being detected...
[21:53] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, can you ask a question please?
[21:53] <arand> cmp: "sudo touch /forcefsck" will schedule an fsck for the next time you start the computer.
[21:53] <erUSUL> zilkomaa: if you start installing servers ....
[21:53] <madruga> phpito, If you speak portuguese, you just can speak in #ubuntu-br
[21:53] <phpito> thanks
[21:54] <zilkomaa> erUSUL: via virtualbox?
[21:54] <sysdoc> zilkomaa, you'd have to create a vm of the existing install of xp....
[21:54] <PenCapChew> Space... my windows is shot... i get the blue screen of death on bootup... so i was wanting to run unbutu from a cd to transfer my files to a flash drive... but have never used ubuntu
[21:54] <zilkomaa> sysdoc: With vmware?
[21:54] <mallory> erUSUL: I have established a wired connection.
[21:54] <PenCapChew> Before i do a reformat
[21:54] <ikonia> caravel24: no, you could run that locally, they would just update better on change
[21:55] <needinfo> Need advice on numeric keypad. Since last update (release 8.10 kernel 2.6.27-17-generic) my numeric keypad will not type "0". Instead it will toggle ins/overtype mode. Get the same behavior with num lock on or off. All other numbers work fine, just no "0".
[21:55] <sysdoc> zilkomaa, that is the way that I did it, not with virtualbax
[21:55] <zilkomaa> sysdoc: Hehe ok.
[21:55] <Lint01> PenCapChew: just boot up from livecd, i think ubuntu can detect usb devices now
[21:55] <BluesKaj> PenCapChew, did you try to get to a C prompt and use the fixmbr command , then you could dual boot linux and windows
[21:55] <sysdoc> zilkomaa that is if I understood your question correctly
[21:56] <PenCapChew> I just want to boot from cd... but once i get booted i have no idea how to transfer to the usb stick
[21:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, have you done it yet? Tried to boot?
[21:56] <cmp> any news arand, ?
[21:57] <Lint01> PenCapChew: you'll see the devices' icons on your desktop
[21:57] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, you should mount the drive by clicking places then the windows drive. Also plug in the usb drive and then copy and paste files.
[21:57] <arand> cmp: not until you reboot and run the scheduled fsck..
[21:57] <Goliath> v
[21:57] <Goliath> hi how can i make cairo dock (with opengl) open at boot
[21:57] <cmp> how to run it ... tell me arand.
[21:57] <Lint01> what have you done to your WIndows so it stopped to boot?
[21:58] <arand> cmp: "sudo touch /forcefsck" will schedule an fsck for the next time you start the computer.
[21:58] <cmp> oh now ikonia will repeat it again . LLOL
[21:58] <PenCapChew> Space, where should i download a live cd at?
[21:58] <cmp> ok - thanks arand.
[21:59] <cmp> will it fix it self by this fsck  arand. if there will be any error??
[21:59] <PenCapChew> Lint, used windows update to update my hard drive controller drivers, now it's shot to hell
[21:59] <zilkomaa> sysdoc: I  was just asking that can i run already installed window xp with some program? Xp is installed my another partition.
[21:59] <Some_Person> When I boot up or shut down, I see a tty1 login for a few seconds. Is there any way to stop that from showing?
[21:59] <Lint01> www.ubuntu.com
[21:59] <mallory> can someone tell me how to figure out what kind of broadcom i have on my dell, running ubuntu 9.10
[21:59] <sochi2k> I've backed up my windows partition with partimage in 8.10 32bit.  Whats the best way to restore it in 9.04 64bit?
[21:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, you can download it from http://ubuntu.com
[21:59] <PenCapChew> Lint, could you start a private message with me if you don't mind?
[22:00] <Lint01> !pm
[22:00] <obiwan_> guys how can i neable framebuffer mode in the consoles?
[22:00] <obiwan_> i got text-mode
[22:00] <sysdoc> zilkomaa, yes you can... Create a VM of it then run it within Linux using vmware-server as I did. Then you can nuke the xp partition and use it for something else if you like
[22:00] <PenCapChew> Space, is that the live version?
[22:01] <XDread> I'm having a bit of trouble getting mp3-playback to work. Anyone here that can help me? :)
[22:01] <sochi2k> can someone help me restoring partition saved with partimage?
[22:01] <arand> cmp: It should be automatic, but if there are errors you might have to run fsck manually something like "fsck -f /dev/sd##" (sd## being the ubuntu partition) see "man fsck" for more info.
[22:02] <capron> obiwan_, I guess trow kernel compile or you might only need too config a boot option
[22:02] <cmp> thanks arand.
[22:02] <zilkomaa> sysdoc: Ok nice ty.
[22:02] <obiwan_> capron it's supposed to be enabled with some driver
[22:03] <obiwan_> but i want to keep using my i915 driver on the X , i want to use fb just in consoles
[22:03] <PenCapChew> So with Ubuntu can i run it from the cd without installing it to the harddrive?
[22:03] <xfact> Ok to make a complete and useful bug report, I should also install 'debug files' from synaptic?
[22:03] <jrib> xfact: depends on the bug, but...
[22:03] <sysdoc> zilkomaa, there is a way to actually run the existing install straight from the disk, but the chances of fragging the files is high... I choose not to try that approach
[22:03] <jrib> !debug | xfact
[22:03] <OerHeks> arand your 1st answer is the best way to check, right ? > sudo touch /forcefsck
[22:03] <chai_> i fixed my sound! now another question.. I have a console login, and I can start my desktop environment with "sudo service gdm start" as well as "startx". if I use startx, sound does not work. what does gdm do to initialize sound? can i use the same in startx?
[22:03] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, it will be rather slow and very annoying. You have to reinstall things everytime you boot.
[22:04] <mauri> how is it possibile to specify in menu.lst or grub.cfg a root directory different by / (i.e. linnux installed under a subdirectory)
[22:04] <arand> OerHeks: That is the automatic check yes, and the recommended way.
[22:04] <zilkomaa> sysdoc, I agree.
[22:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> jrib means this
[22:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> !bug | xfact
[22:04] <PenCapChew> Space, i know you guys probably don't want to hear this... but i only plan on using it once to get my data transfer to usb sticks
[22:04] <infid> how can i make my custom menu items have icons?
[22:04] <dbluefield> Hello:)
[22:04] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, then ubuntu is the perfect solution mate.
[22:05] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, I don't care if you don't want to switch to it. It's cool with me, ubuntu is a tool. Use it how you wish.
[22:05] <dbluefield> I.m loving ubuntu....need some help on graphic/sound If anyone has the time
[22:05] <arand> OerHeks: However for more complicated situations (where it fails) the -f forced version might be necessary (never do with filesystem mounted!)
[22:05] <PenCapChew> Space, i could really use some help, lol.. are you going to be around for awhile, i've got it downloading right now... thanks for all the help so far btw
[22:05] <jrib> dbluefield: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[22:05] <Mike632T> dbluefield: what sound card / video card do you have
[22:06] <wilhart> test
[22:06] <Some_Person> When I boot up or shut down, I see a tty1 login for a few seconds. Is there any way to stop that from showing?
[22:06] <mikeconcepts> does parted magic version 4.8 image ext4? anyone actually done it and did a restore?
[22:06] <dbluefield> Philips edge sound/ATI all in wonder R100 7200
[22:06] <jrib> Some_Person: I think there's some work on that with intel cards
[22:06] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, do you need help getting drivers? will you answer my previous question?
[22:06] <mauri> come si specifica in menu.lst un path divesdo da /
[22:06] <Some_Person> jrib: I have an nvidia card
[22:07] <mauri> how is it possibile to specify in menu.lst or grub.cfg a root directory different by / (i.e. linnux installed under a subdirectory)
[22:07] <jrib> Some_Person: nvidia drivers are closed :/
[22:07] <PenCapChew> Space... i don't need a separate partion to instal ubuntu do I?
[22:07] <dbluefield> I'm a total Linux newb:)
[22:07] <PenCapChew> patition i mean
[22:07] <dbluefield> I found the drivers -- I cant get the appearance effects to work
[22:08] <magnetron> where is the meta-configuration about LVM stored?
[22:08] <sysdoc> mauri, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275
[22:08] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, you can install ubuntu from the cd if you boot from it, you'll need a seperate partition. It's not hard if you have the space. But you can also boot into windows and then install ubuntu with wubi and you wouldn't need a seperate parition
[22:08] <dbluefield> I disabled motherboard sound in BIOS - Ubuntu cant find my doundcard
[22:08] <cryptk> ARGH... I can't get any themes to work right...
[22:08] <capron> obiwan_,  Are you sure you only have text mode, In the wiki they only talk about howto disabel frambuffer  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[22:08] <cryptk> now I am having problems with icon themes...
[22:08] <Some_Person> jrib: Well, the odd thing is, when I first booted (without nvidia proprietary driver installed), all I got was a flickering tty1 login that I couldn't log into because it wouldn't register every keypress. After installing the nvidia driver, it works, but I see a tty1 login for a few seconds
[22:08] <cryptk> no matter where I put the icon theme it says it is not installed...
[22:09] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, try this from the terminal: gksudo jockey-gtk
[22:09] <cryptk> this is an icon theme that I used to use (before I had to reinstall ubuntu) so I know it woks
[22:09] <PenCapChew> Space?
[22:09] <obiwan_> capron: i got only x mode
[22:09] <obiwan_> capron: that's why i want to enable framebuffer
[22:09] <obiwan_> cause in terminals i got some kind of text-mode (just 24 lines)
[22:09] <obiwan_> and fb would let me have up to 30 i think
[22:10] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, I replied man.
[22:10] <dbluefield> I put it in the console Space - shows no proprietary drivers
[22:10] <xfact> I have one problem, I am using Firefox 3.6 (latest stable build) and when I am trying report bug via 'apport' it saying The problem cannot be reported: This is not a genuine Ubuntu package". What to do? :(
[22:11] <xfact> I am using Ubuntu Karmic
[22:11] <felix> paranormal
[22:11] <jcranmer> bah
[22:11] <kinja-sheep> xfact: Are you using mozilla-daily-ppa?
[22:11] <maroy> hi
[22:11] <jcranmer> if I'm trying to make a .deb for a simple package
[22:11] <jcranmer> and I want to add something to the menu, what do I need to edit?
[22:11] <maroy> I'm having problem booting the Ubuntu install CD from an external USB drive
[22:11] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste the output of this command in there: lspci
[22:11] <PenCapChew> Space, sorry, didn't see...  so there's no way to just stick the cd in and run it... i can't get into windows to install it and i'm not sure i have enough space for a partition
[22:11] <xfact> kinja-sheep: no, mozilla stable build ppa
[22:11] <maroy> does anyone have experience with this?
[22:11] <felix> http://xdccing.com/
[22:11] <jrib> !packaging > jcranmer
[22:11] <Geoffrey2> ok, can anyone tell me how to make Firefox actually see the version of java found in the repositories?
[22:12] <maroy> I'm getting an initramfs error...
[22:12] <felix> http://xdccing.com/
[22:12] <jrib> jcranmer: search about creating .desktop files and menu items in the packaging docs
[22:12] <kinja-sheep> xfact: Well, looks like it does not come from ubuntu repo then.
[22:12] <SpaceGhostC2C> PenCapChew, I said you can. You just put it in and go to Places on the top menu and mount the flash drive and windows drive.
[22:12] <tillers> Bax acalbaza Qjet Colloguy maroy jcranmer felix fool__ |REM| Duisburg6681m ding__ netmind squelos beeftube dreamnid koalinux dennis__ ssmit NoXXiOuS meatcar Quan-Time kiko16 Yorvik Bhavic mikeconcepts dbluefield nico1038 `mOOse` aiwata55 mabatr mauri shadenzo brianchidester nimrod10 capron ocrampal _KAMI_ southwind Roland XDread Some_Person obiwan_ Bookman Goliath gangil Guest30971 _polto_ squizzy geenna sochi2k morphix pitoow yeaha kib
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[22:12] <acalbaza> how can i troubleshoot my sound card?
[22:12] <Bhavic> ok
[22:13] <netmind> uhm.
[22:13] <DrManhattan> those guys have been plaguing dalnet too
[22:13] <arand> !sound | acalbaza
[22:13] <jcranmer> bah
[22:14] <Goliath> KIll tillers
[22:14] <xfact> ?
[22:14] <xfact>  kinja-sheep: yea, Karmic's FF package is 3.5.7, but is there any way to report bug of FF 3.6?
[22:14] <Qjet> erk, this channel is a bit noisy, I'm having some trouble getting this computer to recognize a particular SD card. The SD card is ok, I've tested it on other systems. I just can't seem to get it to work on this particular computer. Could someone give me some advice on tracking down the problem?
[22:14] <SpaceGhostC2C> Goliath, maybe not exhibit so much passion in a threatening way?
[22:14] <xfact>  How to report bug of FIREFOX 3.6 on Ubuntu karmic koala?
[22:14] <daedhel> hi, where can I download ubuntu's grub patches ?
[22:14] <jrib> daedhel: using ubuntu?
[22:15] <acicula> daedhel: how do you mean grub patches, ubuntu updates grub automaticly?
[22:15] <daedhel> jrib: nope
[22:15] <jrib> daedhel: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:15] <kinja-sheep> xfact: Technically that packages does not exist in the repo. You could try and file bug report on Firefox-3.6 on Mozilla Bugzilla.
[22:15] <daedhel> jrib: oh easy pie! lol
[22:15] <dbluefield> what does the lspci do?
[22:15] <xfact> Okey
[22:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> lists your pci devices.
[22:15] <dbluefield> ahhh
[22:15] <bove> I have an external NTFS disk with one labeled primary partition, but this label does not show up in /dev/disk/by-label/, even after reconnecting the disk. Is there any way to manually update the /dev/disk/by-label links?
[22:15] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, if you type space and press tab, it autocompletes my name. then I know you're talking to me.
[22:16] <dbluefield> space
[22:16] <Geoffrey2> can anyone tell me how to make Firefox actually see the Java plugin ubuntu provides?
[22:16] <capron> xfact the moz-develop team whants that bug report ,
[22:16] <dbluefield> space cool
[22:16] <kinja-sheep> space neat!
[22:16] <acicula> Geoffrey2: has to be in the plguns dir
[22:16] <|REM|> I'm using ssmtp and i want to change who the email is coming from.  Right now it is showing root@computer_name
[22:17] <Timmarshall> hi does anyone know if red hat 5.2 has a graphic user interface on it???
[22:17] <christopherdst-1> of course it does
[22:17] <dbluefield> did that website show you my pci info?
[22:17] <mauri> is it possibile innstall kubuntu in a posistion different from /
[22:17] <Qjet> erk, this channel is a bit noisy, I'm having some trouble getting this computer to recognize a particular SD card. The SD card is ok, I've tested it on other systems. I just can't seem to get it to work on this particular computer. Could someone give me some advice on tracking down the problem?
[22:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, follow the instructions. Paste the output of lspci into that site.
[22:18] <Geoffrey2> which plugin directory?  and which .so file should be there?
[22:18] <arand> cnd: re: The change in bug510571, Since this has chnged between kernel versions and not between vbox versions, I think invalidating is incorrect.
[22:18] <daedhel> jrib: hmmm i'm looking for the patch that renders grub2 completely silent... this is not too explicit in there :
[22:18] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, then you need to submit it and then send me the link here.
[22:18] <dbluefield> ohhh gotcha
[22:18] <daedhel> jrib: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/karmic/grub2
[22:18] <Geoffrey2> acicula, which plugin directory?  and which .so file should be in there?
[22:18] <jrib> daedhel: well patches should be in debian/patches
[22:19] <xfact> capron: I think this Firefox 3.6 is specially made for Ubuntu, see this for more info, http://imagebin.org/84280
[22:19] <dbluefield> ok did it
[22:20] <dbluefield> http://paste.ubuntu.com/373534/
[22:21] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, lines 11 and 9 are your video and sound, respectively.
[22:21] <acicula> Geoffrey2: it comes with icedtea java afaik, part of the profile
[22:21] <dude1> test
[22:21] <acicula> Geoffrey2: system wide goes here : /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so, local goes into .mozilla/plugins
[22:22] <Geoffrey2> acicula, I'm talking about the sun-java plugin
[22:22] <M3TVF> Anybody running Amateur Radio software in Ubuntu
[22:22] <dbluefield> radeon 7200 is the video yes
[22:22] <acicula> Geoffrey2: you have to install the sun-java plugin separately
[22:22] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ati | dbluefield
[22:22] <Geoffrey2> acicula, it IS installed, but Firefox still doesn't see it
[22:23] <guru> what am i doing wrong if when i install emacs it is only doing the terminal version and not the gui?
[22:23] <capron> xfact , Hmm I only thorn the ubuntu thing too firefox was a them ,   So what stuff do ubunut team change in FF
[22:23] <acicula> Geoffrey2: you have to use update-alternatives perhaps?
[22:23] <blakkheim> guru: it is a terminal application
[22:23] <dbluefield> I know I spent 6 hours yesterday - Im trying to get apperance effects
[22:23] <acicula> to change the default plugin
[22:23] <`mOOse`> when you get a make error because you didn't have a required library, can you just re-start the make and it'll go from where it eneded?
[22:23] <xfact> Ok
[22:23] <acicula> or just copy the so over to your personal .mozilla/plugins directory
[22:24] <cnd> arand, it was my impression that a change in the kernel between -10 and -11 exposed a bug in vbox
[22:24] <cnd> and that the real issue is with vbox
[22:24] <cnd> is that not the case?
[22:25] <mguy> vbox stinks imo
[22:25] <arand> cnd: I don't know, hence I'm not sure it should be invalidated yet...
[22:25] <acicula> as opposed to
[22:25] <SpaceGhostC2C> mguy, cool. Good for you friend. Do you have a FOSS compliant alternative?
[22:25] <dbluefield> according to the guide my ATI card --7200 / R100 based cards -- supports #D etc...but I ran compiz check and
[22:25] <hei> Enter text here...hei
[22:25] <cnd> arand, if it's not the case, then it can be reopened
[22:26] <mguy> No, I just have had so many problems with it that I no longer us it
[22:26] <dbluefield> it came up Error: Software rasterizer in use
[22:26] <dbluefield> I meant "supports 3D" above
[22:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> mguy, so what do you use now then?
[22:27] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, well, I don't use ATI. Never have, never will. I can't really help you mate. Sorry.
[22:27] <dbluefield> no prob man...its a 10 yr old POS computer  - but ubuntu looks great on it
[22:28] <dbluefield> and I got the dual boot to work w/o incident
[22:30] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, good job, do you need some more help?
[22:30] <jaychamp> Hi all.  I have an issue where when I boot up I get a disk boot failure.  I boot up to the cd, then reboot, take the cd out, and ubuntu will load fine.  I have to do this every time I boot up.  Is it something to do with the old Windows installation, the MBR maybe?
[22:31] <arand> cnd: I've not found anything confirming the #28 comment... I'll be looking over it and then reopen asking #28 for a ref. on that.
[22:31] <dbluefield> well if I could get the sound to work....
[22:31] <dbluefield> lol
[22:31] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, let me look again
[22:31] <cnd> arand, sounds good to me
[22:31] <capron> jaychamp, Yes reinstall grub2
[22:31] <dbluefield> thanx
[22:32] <zelnick> hey, what tool can i use on the commandline to show the size of a folder(and the contained files)?
[22:32] <jaychamp> Thank you capron.  I'm a bit of noob.  Is that something I can do through Synaptic or from the cd?
[22:33] <capron> jaychamp,  Try grub-install /dev/???   and update-grub2
[22:33] <geirha> zelnick: ''man du''
[22:33] <zelnick> geirha: thx :)
[22:33] <jaychamp> thank you kindly, I'll give it a go
[22:34] <kevin009> hey i"m on 9.04 and i don't have the "safely remove device" option when i right click drives. how can I add this so that my usb disks spin down when I unmount them?
[22:34] <frankS2> how can i check if my kernel supports move_pages?
[22:35] <SpaceGhostC2C> kevin009, the unmount won't break your usb disks. pulling it out would.
[22:35] <kevin009> this option is present in 9.10
[22:35] <acicula> frankS2: kernel options are stored in /boot
[22:35] <acicula> the compile time options
[22:35] <magnetron> Question: Where is configuration for a given VG stored in LVM?
[22:35] <kevin009> the disk doesn't spin down when unmounted though, so I can't turn the power off on the drive
[22:36] <Some_Person> kevin009: upgrade to 9.10
[22:36] <acicula> if its a normal hdd mounted and the drive spinning have no real relation
[22:36] <kevin009> i had issues with 9.10, so I had to go back to 9.04
[22:37] <Varidian> What would be the appropriate chat room for aircrack-ng wireless cracking/security help?
[22:37] <capron> Varidian,  Might try backtrack-linux
[22:37] <SpaceGhostC2C> dbluefield, I'm not seeing if the sound is supported so far.
[22:37] <magnetron> Varidian: it's #aircrack-ng
[22:38] <zilkomaa> How can i make dualview to work between monitor and tv like in windows? i have component connection from tv out to tv is there a extra software for that or because by that nvidia x settings didnt convinced me.
[22:38] <magnetron> Varidian: however, they wish that you do your research first. their wiki and docs are awesome!
[22:38] <dbluefield> thanx - I'll keep poking around
[22:38] <Varidian> magnetron: thank you, does that channel go through ubuntu too?
[22:38] <arand> cnd: seems like you were correct.
[22:38] <magnetron> Varidian: it's on the same network/server as this channel, yes
[22:39] <sysdoc> Well I guess I have to move to suse cause I can't get 9.10 to boot!!! This is freaking driving me nuts!
[22:39] <Varidian> Ok, Thank you
[22:39] <magnetron> Varidian: read this first: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/irc.html
[22:39] <cnd> arand, have you tried it with a newer vbox and it worked fine?
[22:39] <sysdoc> The buntu not being kind to me....
[22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> !ask | sysdoc
[22:40] <Varidian> Ok, are they polite over there? Will they help newbies? Are they bitter against them
[22:40] <sysdoc> SpaceGhostC2C, LMAO!
[22:40] <SpaceGhostC2C> sysdoc, what's the question, specifically.
[22:40] <zilkomaa> Can someone point me a right direction please ?
[22:40] <magnetron> Varidian: they will try to help you, if you follow the guidelines i just linked to
[22:40] <mcurran> What do you want to know about aircrack I'm an expert
[22:41] <Medo42> Hi.
[22:41] <Imper> hi
[22:41] <arand> cnd: Seems Perryg has.
[22:41] <mcurran> you can pm me and I can take a shot at your question - you could try #remote-exploit too
[22:41] <SpaceGhostC2C> !hi | Medo42 Imper
[22:42] <sysdoc> SpaceGhostC2C, No question really, just frustrates with 9.10 that will not boot on a Dell vostro 200 that already IS running 9.10... Just wanna move up to a new HD and copy over my /home dir, and the fresh install of 9.10 will not boot
[22:42] <mcurran> I'm actually running BT4 and messing with wireshark right now.  I want to find a good network analyzer to see which wifi networks are active (have connections).  I usually use airodump for this, but figured there might be something that would show lan connections too
[22:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> sysdoc, so, if you really don't have a question but want to vent, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:43] <Diverdude> I am trying to construct a command that take the output from md5sum on file 1 and md5sum on file 2. I have been thinking about using somethin with cat and grep...but i can't think of a final example. Any ideas how i can do this?
[22:43] <yvan_> how to localize a file in terminal?
[22:43] <sysdoc> SpaceGhostC2C, lol
[22:43] <acicula> yvan_: locate
[22:43] <thefronny> I need some help starting X in a server install of Jaunty.
[22:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> sysdoc, what is with the singular lol?
[22:43] <acicula> or find
[22:43] <blakkheim> Diverdude: what is your end goal?
[22:43] <SpaceGhostC2C> sysdoc, is there a language barrier here?
[22:43] <capron> Varidian, Tells us your problem with aircrack-ng,   I find it was not that easy to turn off Network-Manager a normal kill did not do it
[22:43] <iceroot> yvan_: fastest is"locate file" (first sudo updatedb)
[22:44] <Medo42> I want to register for Ubuntero status at Launchpad, which requires me to create and upload an OpenPGP key. Is it neccessary to give a valid e-mail address in this key?
[22:44] <wasutton3_> is there a way to force dd to read all of a dvd rather than just one segment on it?
[22:44] <Diverdude> blakkheim, just to compare md5 checksums...i need to compare some textfiles
[22:44] <yvan_> iceroot, then i must type what?
[22:44] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, you can use diff and grep if you need.
[22:44] <Medo42> I'm a little concerned that the address might be harvested from the keyserver by spammers, so I'd prefer not to publish it.
[22:45] <blakkheim> Diverdude: so why not just run md5sum file1 file2
[22:45] <Diverdude> blakkheim, ohh even easier hehe :)
[22:45] <iceroot> yvan_: locate file
[22:45] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, you probably know this, but it might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[22:45] <Geoffrey2> is Firefox 3.6 likely using different directories than the default 3.5 that ships with Karmic?  I downloaded from the mozillateam PPA
[22:45] <zilkomaa> How can i make dualview to work between monitor and tv like in windows? i have component connection from tv out to tv is there a extra software for that or because by that nvidia x settings didnt convinced me.
[22:46] <Diverdude> blakkheim, ahh hmm no it needs to tell me if they match or not
[22:46] <Geoffrey2> because I just installed iced-tea, restarted FF, and it still doesn't report any kind of java plugin
[22:46] <Diverdude> SpaceGhostC2C, yeah i have been looking at that side...but kinda wanted to do the compare in the terminal
[22:47] <acicula> Geoffrey2: yeah i suspect so
[22:47] <blakkheim> Diverdude: is it that much work to read the two lines and see for yourself?
[22:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM on Linux this is command line bro
[22:47] <Diverdude> blakkheim, yes it is if i have to do it on many files it is
[22:47] <Diverdude> blakkheim, and there is great chance of error
[22:47] <SpaceGhostC2C> blakkheim, that's really offensive dude. I'd probably chill out if I were you.
[22:48] <Varidian> Mcurran is helping, thanks for the help though, who was messaging me
[22:48] <blakkheim> SpaceGhostC2C: it offended you that much huh?
[22:49] <_chump0> Diverdude you could write a bash script to do the comparison http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#ss11.1
[22:49] <Diverdude> SpaceGhostC2C,  Comparison suggestion from that page: "An easy way to do this is to open the UbuntuHashes page in your browser, then copy the hash your machine calculated from the terminal into the "Find" box in your browser"
[22:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> blakkheim, it was very offensive, yes. This is a support channel.
[22:49] <Imper> +
[22:49] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, my suggestions is to pipe out one md5sum and another and then diff them. Not hard.
[22:50] <Geoffrey2> ok, got it..it was the mozilla folder in /lib, not firefox
[22:50] <Diverdude> SpaceGhostC2C, that is a good idea
[22:50] <Slart> Diverdude: why not try diff?
[22:50] <Slart> Diverdude: there are other utilities for checking if files match each other.. fdupe is one, there are others out there as well
[22:50] <agent47> in my ubuntu network manager is not working
[22:51] <SpaceGhostC2C> Slart,  I think he's pretty determined to md5sum them.
[22:51] <Diverdude> SpaceGhostC2C, but how do i pipe 2 output to diff?
[22:51] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem
[22:51] <Slart> SpaceGhostC2C: ok, thanks
[22:51] <acicula> Diverdude: pipe output to a scratfile and diff that/
[22:51] <Slart> Diverdude: have a look at the utility cfv then.. it's a pretty straight forward sfv checker
[22:52] <twoslice> Diverdude: md5sum *.*
[22:52] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, you can pipe each out to a variable then compare the variables.
[22:53] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem
[22:53] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem in ubuntu 9.10
[22:53] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem in ubuntu 9.10
[22:53] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem in ubuntu 9.10
[22:53] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem in ubuntu 9.10
[22:53] <FloodBot1> agent47: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:53] <agent47> unable to connect usb mobile broadband modem in ubuntu 9.10
[22:54] <Slart> agent47: you're trying hard to get kick-banned?
[22:54] <maciek_> hi
[22:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> Agent don't paste so much bro.
[22:54] <agent47> okie
[22:54] <agent47> can anyone help me with
[22:54] <SpaceGhostC2C> !patience | agent47
[22:54] <Slart> !details | agent47
[22:55] <twoslice> Agent47: you need to find out what driver the USB modem card is using
[22:55] <twoslice> Agent47: what hardware chipset does it use?
[22:56] <agent47> Actually while installing the ubuntu as a default it ask for the mobile broadband connection with the service providers
[22:56] <kebomix> anybody faced kernel panic after  updating to latest kernel with ati cards ?
[22:56] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, need any help bro?
[22:56] <agent47> so i selected my service provider photon plus
[22:56] <agent47> i am from india
[22:56] <twoslice> Agent47 what is the vendor/model of the USB adapater?
[22:56] <Slart> kebomix: I don't have an ati card myself.. but I can't say I've seen lots of people asking about kernel-panics in here at least..
[22:57] <twoslice> Agent47 I only used PCMCIA adapters and they seem to work pretty good
[22:57] <kebomix> Slart: yeah , i hate ATI with linux , i cam't login to my system , i tried all methods i know but no luck :(
[22:57] <agent47> model : Huawei EC1260
[22:58] <Diverdude> SpaceGhostC2C, it seems i have to write a script to do it
[22:58] <Slart> kebomix: why not go back to the old kernel then.. wait for the bug to get fixed
[22:58] <SpaceGhostC2C> Diverdude, yeah. It's not hard, don't forget the SheBang.
[22:58] <Slart> kebomix: or you need the new kernel for something else?
[22:59] <agent47> twoslice : model : Huawei EC1260
[22:59] <wasutton3_> does anyone know how to use dd on an xbox 360 game? i am tired of mine getting scratched up and would like to backup
[22:59] <squelos> hello
[22:59] <agent47> I am seeking help for past one week !!
[22:59] <archboxman> kebomix: what you mean can't login???? Do you mean the graphics card is not supported so login fails?
[22:59] <SpaceGhostC2C> wasutton3_, it'd be the same as any other cd you want to make an image of.
[23:00] <kebomix> Slart: they said that the new kernel includes a new driver for ati cards and ati users will not face any problems after updating to latest kernel , i updated and got sweet kernel panic :@ , i said may be there is a conflict between ati offical driver and new one so i removed ati driver but still no luck , i can't log into my system from any kernel (old one's too )
[23:00] <Slart> wasutton3_: dd is very simple.. it won't get rid of any copy protection or such.. but afaik it will make perfect copies
[23:00] <twoslice> Agent47 a lot of people are having problems with linux drivers with that USB modem
[23:00] <wasutton3_> spaceghostc2c, nope, i tried the dd command and all i got was a 5.6mb file
[23:00] <thefronny> I've installed jaunty server and then ubuntu desktop, but told the server not to run X. This is an LTSP server and all the clients run X apps fine but, with no X running on the server xhost+ commands can't open :0, so an important xmessage script doesn't work. How can I set the server to start X? Is it in init.d or inittab? thax
[23:01] <readmanr_> if i want to post an image in brainstorm do i wrap the url in [img][/img] ??
[23:01] <wasutton3_> Slart, tried it, it only copies a little bit of the disk
[23:01] <harisund> Hey guys quick question - I have Ubuntu 9.10, but I want the gcc compiler suite that was available on 9.04, since what I am programming with is not compatible with gcc 4.4 that ships with 9.10 <-- Any idea how I can do that? I believe you can install the previous version and change symlinks to point to that, but is there an "official Ubuntu version' or a transitional package or something like that?
[23:01] <Slart> kebomix: ouch.. not really sure what to do about that.. you have my sympathy
[23:01] <agent47> twoslice: so what can i suppose to do anyways to troubleshoot
[23:01] <twoslice> thfronny you have to install X on the server
[23:02] <kebomix> Slart: ok , thanks for trying to help :)
[23:02] <Slart> wasutton3_: not reallly sure why it would do that
[23:02] <Diverdude> SpaceGhostC2C, aha....i figured out this command: expr 'md5sum svm_classify.c' = 'md5sum svm_classify.c'   Itwas something like that i was looking for
[23:03] <wasutton3_> Slart, how would i check for multiple partitions on the disk?
[23:03] <Slart> wasutton3_: fdisk? or gparted perhaps? not sure how well those handle cd's though
[23:03] <thefronny> twoslice: X is on there (aptitude search xorg) but I'm missing a setting. As I recall when I installed ubuntu desktop it asked me if I wanted it to run on the server and I said "no" (duh). Trying to tell it otherwise. thanks!
[23:03] <readmanr_> check idea http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23594
[23:03] <twoslice> Thfronny what runlevel is the server in?
[23:04] <wasutton3_> Slart, nope it doesnt recognize either
[23:04] <afurlan> asdf
[23:04] <Slart> !runlevels
[23:04] <harisund> Is there a way to get Firefox 3.5 on Ubuntu 9.04, preserving all the plugins (Flash / Adobe / Java/ media) ?
[23:05] <darolu> harisund:just download the binaries from mozilla website
[23:05] <darolu> it uses all the plugins you already have
[23:05] <Noctis_Lux> Ah ouais... quand ils disent "moins d'options" je pensais pas que c'était au point de connecter à un serveur choisi arbitrairement.
[23:05] <thefronny> twoslice: Bingo! That's in inittab isn't it? like maybe 5?
[23:05] <afurlan> I'm getting trouble to configure my Ubuntu with 1600x900 resolution
[23:05] <twoslice> Thefronny: runlevel 3
[23:05] <darolu> !french | Noctis_Lux
[23:05] <harisund> darolu: that only works for me on Windows .. on Ubuntu every time I do something like that, with just about any application, it ALWAYS breaks something unless I install the "official Ubuntu way" through the repositories ><
[23:05] <archboxman> darolu: 3.5 or 3.6 for firefox
[23:05] <afurlan> does anyone know how can I configure xorg.conf t do it?
[23:06] <twoslice> Thefronny: runlevel or 2
[23:06] <Ratchii> Hey guys, I am trying to setup a machine to be a router. It's currently running DHCP and DNS, which are working fine. I have followed the guide http://ubuntulinuxhowto.blogspot.com/2006/06/setup-your-computer-to-be-router.html. I have enabled ipv4 forwarded and rebooted. The ubuntu server can surf fine. The server has 2 NICs in it, eth0 and eth1, they are internet and external. When I plug...
[23:06] <Ratchii> ...in a machine into eth1, I get a IP handed out by DHCP, if I ping the hostname resolves but times out. I can't surf, but the gateway responds to ping.
[23:06] <darolu> archboxman:both
[23:06] <archboxman> apt-cache search firefox
[23:07] <darolu> harisund:You can't break anything by running the binnary, but if you want a ore "ubuntu" way, you can add the ppa; gimme a minute and I'll link you
[23:07] <archboxman> darolu: what version does it pull up??
[23:07] <Ratchii> There is also iptable logs showing that it's rejecting packets, even though I have allowed the interfaces through webmin's iptables.
[23:07] <thefronny> twoslice: I'll check that out. I think it was 5 in my Slackware days and now I'm coming from BSD. Too much to know...
[23:08] <archboxman> darolu: if not in your mirror list going to have to change repository server
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[23:08] <FloodBot1> VENIMASTER: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <freaky[t]> how do i scroll to the bottom of a file with vim?
[23:09] <darolu> archboxman:you can get the 3.5 from here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
[23:10] <harisund> darolu I just messaged ubottu .. there are instructions in there to get 3.5 in Jaunty :)
[23:10] <Noctis_Lux> Bye and sorry for disturbing ^^ (too tired to force myself to talk in an understandable english).
[23:10] <archboxman> darolu: I've got 3.6 ... I use Archlinux rolling release and linux mint :)
[23:11] <Slart> freaky[t]: this looks useful http://www.pixelbeat.org/vim.tips.html
[23:11] <freaky[t]> Slart thanks i found out myself ;D
[23:11] <harisund> Anybody has any experience installing Ubuntu on a FakeRaid Raid0 setup? Fedora installation sees my 2 hard disks as one big hard disk with combined space, ubuntu sees the two hard disks separately ><
[23:12] <jereme> is notify-osd still completely non-configurable?
[23:12] <Slart> !fakeraid | harisund
[23:12] <harisund> Slart that really doesn't help .. I have already seen all that and noone of them cover Raid0
[23:12] <Slart> harisund: usually fakeraid isn't recommended.. it's not much faster and more prone to errors..
[23:12] <jereme> !notify-osd
[23:12] <harisund> Slart: I see.. hmm
[23:13] <Slart> harisund: but if you really want to do it.. I would have a look at the alternate install.. it has more install options than the regular desktop install
[23:13] <harisund> Slart: Ah ok cool man will check it out
[23:19] <archboxman> Slart: I want to private msg you trying new feature in irssi... that ok
[23:19] <dupondje> I got Karmic with grub1, but after a kernel upgrade, it doesn't seem to run update-grub, any idea how to solve that ?
[23:19] <Slart> archboxman: sure
[23:19] <archboxman> ok
[23:19] <afurlan> does anyone know how to configure the monitor Samsung SyncMaster 2033 on Ubuntu?
[23:19] <erUSUL> harisund: is the same for all fakeraids
[23:20] <johnzorn> do I use w64codecs for ubuntu 64 bit on an intel 64 bit core2?
[23:20] <Slart> johnzorn: yes
[23:21] <Goliath> vlc wont show correctly my greek subs (i choose greek/auto encoding) but smplayer will. any ideas?
[23:21] <blakkheim> Goliath: use s/mplayer instead?
[23:21] <harisund> erUSUL: really? will try that then and let you know thank you !!
[23:21] <Goliath> blakkheim: no
[23:21] <blakkheim> Goliath: vlc doesn't have the best subtitle support :/
[23:21] <Goliath> maybe i should change font
[23:22] <yaaar> howdy
[23:22] <blakkheim> Goliath: can i ask why you don't want to just use the program that you already have confirmed to work?
[23:23] <oldtopman> hello all
[23:26] <oldtopman> bye all
[23:26] <readmanr_> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/23594/   idea #5
[23:26] <harisund> Honestly blakkheim changing the applicaton all together is not the answer when just one aspect of a particular program is what you want changed :) That's like saying "oh I can't get fakeRaid working by defalt on Ubuntu, I will just switch to Fedora instead :)
[23:27] <iWolf> I can't switch workspaces
[23:27] <erUSUL> harisund: .... I will just switch to Linux Software RAID instead ...
[23:27] <erUSUL> harisund: :)
[23:27] <harisund> erUSUL true but that wasn't what I was trying to get at :(
[23:28] <Goliath> Does anyone have problem with smplayer? I cant see video for some reason now.
[23:30] <erick> hi i have a doubt with an application asp.net monodevelop
[23:30] <erick> I get an error when opening the page that says so :::::: Server Error in '/' Application and I put that it is not::: libgda-2.so.3
[23:30] <erick> and this is the error string :::::::
[23:30] <erick> System.DllNotFoundException: libgda-2.so.3
[23:30] <erick>   at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.Data.OleDb.libgda: gda_init (string, string, int, string [])
[23:30] <FloodBot1> erick: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <erick>   at System.Data.OleDb.OleDbConnection.Open () [0x00000]
[23:30] <oldtopman> hello all
[23:31] <oldtopman> I just resized the swap partition that xubuntu uses
[23:32] <oldtopman> yes i know this is the ubuntu fourums but will i have to tell it to use the resized one
[23:32] <Akkernight> is there a linux font called Terminal on Ubuntu?
[23:32] <erUSUL> Akkernight: there is Terminus
[23:32] <erUSUL> !find terminus
[23:32] <erick> sorry
[23:33] <kthomas_vh_> I'm setting up bind9
[23:33] <kthomas_vh_> once I have a domain configured
[23:33] <brenden_> DCC CHAT HAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAXHAX 0 0 0 ?
[23:33] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[23:33] <kthomas_vh_> nslookup to localhost returns NXDOMAIN
[23:33] <erick> "sorry"   ///i have help in monodevelop floodbot1
[23:33] <Random832> kthomas_vh_; you're supposed to have it in /etc/hosts - nslookup looks in real name servers
[23:34] <kthomas_vh_> nslookup is set to query localhost :)
[23:34] <kthomas_vh_> but sec
[23:35] <kthomas_vh_> no,  in hosts doesn't matter
[23:35] <kthomas_vh_> the thing is,
[23:35] <kthomas_vh_> I only get NXDOMAIN for domains I define
[23:35] <neuro_damage> where would I find a list of mirrors for apt?
[23:36] <oldtopman> I just deleted the swap partition that xubuntu uses, then made a larger one. Will i have to tell it to use the resized one?
[23:36] <neuro_damage> oldtopman: should be in your /etc/fstab and just a swapon, I believe
[23:37] <erUSUL> oldtopman: yes you have to edit fstab and change the old uuid with the new one
[23:37] <erUSUL> !uuid | oldtopman
[23:37] <oldtopman> neur
[23:37] <oldtopman> neuro_damage  what do you mean (im a newb steps please)
[23:37] <neuro_damage> yeah I'm wondering if there's a list of ubuntu karmic repos?
[23:38] <darolu> !fstab
[23:38] <iWolf> neuro_damage: Why, do you need another?
[23:39] <iWolf> neuro_damage: Most software is already in the Ubuntu repo
[23:39] <dupondje> damn, upgraded kernel on karmic, and now it boots into busybox :( dmraid gone ?! :(
[23:40] <oldtopman> can i edit that from puppy (which i did the repartititioning from)
[23:40] <daftykins> dupondje: hold shift on startup and pick your older kernel?
[23:40] <erUSUL> oldtopman: you would have to mount the ubuntu partition for that
[23:40] <oldtopman> I have done that, whrer is said file
[23:41] <erUSUL> oldtopman: ubuntu can boot without swap. so you could do it from ubuntu just as easily
[23:41] <erUSUL> oldtopman: /etc/fstab
[23:41] <dupondje> daftykins: it removed old kernels, and seems like previous isn't working neither :
[23:41] <dupondje> rescuecd++
[23:42] <darolu> oldtopman: you will need to edit it with sudo, hit Alt+F2 and type gksu gedit /etc/fstab to edit it
[23:42] <oldtopman> for my final and simple question, how do i get to the grub boot menu during startup
[23:44] <darolu> !grub
[23:44] <darolu> !grub2
[23:45] <oldtopman> escape, f1, q something like that
[23:45] <NotBert> Evening, all
[23:45] <darolu> oldtopman:in jaunty and previous is with Esc. in karmic I'm not entirely sure but I think you have to hold shift
[23:46] <oldtopman> at the moment it says "grub loading" then the rat in *buntu logo
[23:46] <oldtopman> i will try that darolu thanks bue
[23:46] <oldtopman> bye
[23:46] <NotBert> I'm trying to recall the command that allows me to choose to install a lamp server, ubuntu desktop, etc... rather than having to apt-get the individual packages.
[23:46] <iWolf> darolu: To get into the GRUB menu, you still use ESC
[23:46] <NotBert> whatever it was brings up a blue screen that allows me to arrow down and choose
[23:47] <llutz> NotBert: tasksel
[23:47] <anarkissed> is there seriously no way to change login sounds?
[23:47] <iWolf> I can't switch workspaces
[23:47] <NotBert> llutz: Thank you, that was driving me crazy!
[23:47] <anarkissed> 9.10
[23:47] <xfact> Flickr uploadr is also giving source to compile, that means it is available for Ubuntu tooo
[23:48] <xfact> but how to compile?
[23:48] <darolu> iWolf:thanks I'm still on jaunty :P
[23:48] <anarkissed> so is there no way to change the login sounds in 9.10?
[23:49] <llutz> anarkissed: read comments for sounds http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/09/hack-karmics-gdm-login-screen.html
[23:49] <neuro_damage> I don't see the xen-images for ubuntu in the us.archive repo?
[23:49] <tgz_> yello. I want to rip out pulseaudio, but synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, probably because it depends on it, and that scares me just a little bit.
[23:50] <neuro_damage> is that something I'm missing, cause I'm not sure what package to use for xen on ubuntu
[23:50] <llutz> tgz_: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package, won't harm too much
[23:51] <tgz_> llutz: ok. so removing pulseaudio which then says it will remove ubuntu-desktop is not going to futz my desktop environment all to whoknowswhere?
[23:51] <llutz> tgz_: shouldn't do, just watch carefully which packages are going to be removed
[23:51] <tgz_> if I weren't watching, I wouldn't be here now =]
[23:52] <tgz_> can I reinstall ubuntu-desktop without installing pulse?
[23:53] <tgz_> "It is also used to help ensure proper upgrades, so it is recommended that it not be removed."
[23:53] <tgz_> I do want the machine to be able to update itself, since the computer is going to someone else
[23:55] <kinja-sheep> tgz_: The machine won't be update itself unless you introduce some kind of interval tasks (eg cron).
[23:56] <tgz_> kinja-sheep: uh, I'm just talking about the update manager
[23:56] <kinja-sheep> tgz_: Okay. You can remove ubuntu-desktop -- It is a metapackage, virtual package that points to multiple packages at once.
[23:57] <tgz_> ok, I'm removing
[23:57] <tgz_> am I going to hate my life when I try to upgrade 9.10 to whatever the next version might bwe
[23:57] <dupondje> great, if I offcourse remove dmraid, it wont work anymore :D
[23:58] <snail_> So I'm unable to get a wintv pvr 500 card working, i have tried installing ivtv drivers (i think i did it correctly) the ubuntu help (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaHauppauge) tells me to goto (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_IVTV_Feisty) which is an unsupported version... can anyone point me towards what i should do
[23:59] <Karhu> hi everyone..can someone tell me what the avahi client actually is for xmms2 ? i installed it thinking it was a graphical client for xmms2 but now im not too sure lol
[23:59] <RB2_> Evening all