[02:26] <xubuntu_newbie> recently lost sound...still chirps when i shut down but thatś the only sound i can get it to make...ubuntu formum troubleshooting guide hasn´t helped..any suggestions...help...jokes???8-)
[02:26] <rr72> jokes?
[02:28] <xubuntu_newbie> hey...i got to have some fun....or i´d just scream...>:o
[02:29] <xubuntu_newbie> i seem to remember having sound problem when i first installed xubuntu...and it was a simple fix then...somthing to do with activating alsa
[02:29] <rr72> know the feeling all to well lol
[02:29] <rr72> what kind of sound do you mean? in general or sound effects?
[02:30] <rr72> double check that it is not muted is always a first step, that happened to me sadly
[02:30] <xubuntu_newbie> only sound i can get is the little beep that happens when i log off...
[02:30] <xubuntu_newbie> if it was muted wouldn´t that include logoff beep???
[02:31] <rr72> like if you go to youtube or try to play sound files nothing happens?
[02:31] <rr72> try muting and unmuting?
[02:31] <rr72> sometimes funny things happen
[02:31] <xubuntu_newbie> i think this happened when i tried to install ubuntu-studio...then tried to remove it...too much ...and now i have no sounds
[02:31] <rr72> hrmph
[02:31] <xubuntu_newbie> k...will try...
[02:32] <rr72> that is a good piece of information that could be crucial :-P
[02:32] <xubuntu_newbie> i
[02:34] <rr72> well you are in right place, someone here could prolly help you but most people might be asleep
[02:36] <xubuntu_newbie> k...tried manual mute button on laptop...no sound after mute...unmute and get sound on typing errors (which i certainly make enuf of)...tried muting and unmuting with volume control.....alsa mixer...also tried mute and unmute in player....no help...
[02:38] <xubuntu_newbie> isn´t there a terminal command to make sure alsa is actually active???
[05:18] <Balsaq> good morning Lords of the Code....
[05:19] <syn-ack> Ok... so does this channel cover Lucid issues as well as Karmic issues?
[05:19] <GSF1200S> anyone here know where I can get the latest xfce packages? Is there a binary somewhere or do I have to compile?
[05:20] <Balsaq> i get them in synaptic
[05:20] <syn-ack> I'm trying to figure out what the proper channel for Xubuntu Lucid support is being held
[05:20] <Balsaq> this is xubuntu support for all of them
[05:21] <syn-ack> Someone want to help me with bug 519641
[05:21] <syn-ack> ?
[05:21] <GSF1200S> Balsaq: well, im stuck on 9.10, and xfce on this version has bugs for dual monitors.. I know its been corrected, but I need later packages
[05:21] <Balsaq> have you recieved all your updates
[05:22] <syn-ack> Of course I have.
[05:22] <bazhang> lucid support is in #ubuntu+1 including xubuntu
[05:22] <syn-ack> Thank you. :)
[05:22] <Balsaq> woops thanks bazhang
[05:22] <bazhang> np :)
[05:23] <Balsaq> if 910 is current, why is it in that channel?
[05:23] <syn-ack> Lucid is not 9.10
[05:23] <syn-ack> it is 10.4
[05:23] <Balsaq> ah
[05:23] <syn-ack> rather 10.04
[05:24] <GSF1200S> Balsaq: yes I have.. I had the same issue on Arch, but later versions of XFCE got released and the problem got fixed.. I just need to upgrade a bit.. either another repo, something...
[05:24] <Balsaq> im still on 904!
[05:24] <Balsaq> so i cant run dual on my 904?
[05:24] <flah> hi all... i'm considering jumping from mac to linux at home...
[05:25] <flah> any suggestions on dual core 4gb ram 320 gb 256/512 vram laptops ... something as durable as a mac (my last two mac laptops lasted me 4-5 years)
[05:25] <GSF1200S> Balsaq: yeah, i think you can- it just has some annoying bugs on the second screen
[05:25] <GSF1200S> bugs the xfce devs fixed
[05:25] <Balsaq> yeah i tried it with ARk and it too had annoying bugs with dual
[05:26] <syn-ack> GSF1200S: if you think that's what it'll take, look into apt-pinning.
[05:26] <GSF1200S> flah: xubuntu is pretty good.. Arch is good but a little more involved.. those would be my recommendations
[05:26] <syn-ack> Pinning is goodness if you want to update only specific packages and not others
[05:26] <GSF1200S> Balsaq: yeah, I have to move off the taskbar and back onto it everytime I want to click something...
[05:27] <GSF1200S> apt-pinning? huh.. never heard of it.. Ive been in Archland a while though
[05:30] <GSF1200S> flah: haha.. im an idiot.. I thought you were asking for OS suggestions
[05:30] <syn-ack> um pinning's been around since the time of the ancients ( Debian Woody et al)
[05:31] <GSF1200S> flah: I got my laptop from ibuypower.com, and it has been a brick. It was cheap for what I got, and it performed well
[05:31] <flah> gsf1200s: thanks, i'll check 'em out!
[05:32] <GSF1200S> syn-ack: I never really needed to stay up to date on my laptop, and my dual monitor i7 desktop has been on arch since i built it.. this is the first case where I really need something like apt-pinning
[05:32] <Balsaq> i  just stole an i5 lapper
[05:33] <Balsaq> meaning i bought it really cheap
[05:33] <flah> the other big question is ... has anyone managed to reliably migrate itunes meta data?... i've got well over 200gb of mp3/aac ...
[05:34] <syn-ack> GSF1200S: I'm pretty sure pinning is NOT supported in Ubuntu in any form whatsover... :/
[05:34] <GSF1200S> heh.. wow.. i5 laptop must be sweet. My lappie is a core2duo 2.16ghz, but its 3 years old. Has intel even released a better processor than the i7? I think the i5 and i3 are more midrange replacements, right?
[05:35] <GSF1200S> syn-ack: ehh.. I can deal with breakage if it happens. Running arch unstable kinda numbs you to random issues
[05:35] <syn-ack> The Development version of XFCE is 4.6 BTW... that's what I'm running here.
[05:37] <GSF1200S> syn-ack: 4.6.? Im on 4.6, but its the version shipped with xubuntu 9.10
[05:38] <syn-ack> I thought 9.10 Shipped with 4.2
[05:39] <GSF1200S> what?! Ummm.. maybe with 7.10, but 9.10? Unless im missing something :)
[05:39] <syn-ack> meh, I don't know, I just started using Xubuntu myself
[05:39] <GSF1200S> it shows 4.6.1 at menu>about xfce>info
[05:39] <syn-ack> I'm finally tired of the Gnome bloat
[05:40] <GSF1200S> syn-ack: yeah.. and gnome sucks with 2 screens as well
[05:40] <syn-ack> meh
[05:40] <syn-ack> Never bothered me
[05:40] <GSF1200S> syn-ack: kde 4.4 STILL has no support for seperate x sessions
[05:40] <GSF1200S> xfce is the best dual monitor desktop environment in linux
[05:41] <GSF1200S> window managers handle it well, but eh.. sometimes I like an environment.. just depends
[09:24] <balsaq> xubuntu...the way, the truth, the light.
[11:58] <Lam3r_co> hallo
[12:00]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[12:01] <Lam3r_co> please, anyone uses xubuntu on via epia? I've got the slowest one 5000 series and want to use xubuntu in there
[12:02] <Lam3r_co> I would use epialinux.org, but wayback machine is having brainfarts
[13:36] <exs> hi, ivh installed xubuntu but i cant see any thumbnails for flv data
[13:36] <exs> xubuntu-restricted-extras is installed
[13:36] <exs> but for avi it functions
[13:53] <exs> hi, ivh installed xubuntu but i cant see any thumbnails for flv data. xubuntu-restricted-extras is installed. but for avi it functions
[13:54] <Psilocybin_Elf> Not sure...I don't get thumbnail views in Xubuntu??!
[13:54] <exs> was this a question?
[13:55] <exs> i know its possible. cause i had a gnome and changed to xfce and u saw for every file thumbnails in thunar
[14:09] <mr_pouit> exs: check that the mimetype returned by "file -i /path/to/your/video.flv" is listed in /usr/share/thumbnailers/ffmpeg-thumbnailer.desktop
[14:22] <exs> mr_pouit: it is listed
[14:34] <exs> its still not function
[14:43] <mr_pouit> exs: mmh, you could check that you have the 'extra' variants of the ffmpeg libs (libavcodec, libavdevice, libavformat, libavutil...) installed, and if generating the thumbnail manually works (e.g. "ffmpegthumbnailer -i /path/to/your/video.flv -o thumb.png")
[14:47] <exs> this command function
[14:52] <exs> how to delete all saved thumbnails?
[14:53] <exs> now he does not eve show thumbnails for images
[14:55] <mr_pouit> exs: did you run (in a terminal) /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 and restart your session?
[14:55] <exs> /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 is not existing
[14:56] <mr_pouit> exs: which version of thunar are you using exactly?
[14:56] <exs> ok ivh found it /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1
[14:58] <exs> ok ivh executed this command and now it functions
[14:58] <exs> thx
[15:13] <TheCash> hello, I'm new to Xubuntu and was wondering if anyone knows a good place to learn how to program in C++ on it
[15:16] <Psilocybin_Elf> HUllo
[15:16] <Psilocybin_Elf> I'm not too sure about C or C++
[15:16] <Psilocybin_Elf> But I read that Python is better for starting off with.
[15:17] <TheCash> well I already know C and C++ and was wanting to continue developing with those
[15:18] <TheCash> I just can't find any info on where to start
[15:31] <ablomen> TheCash, http://gcc.gnu.org/
[15:31]  * Psilocybin_Elf nods.
[15:33] <TheCash> I have the compilers what I need is API documentation for creating GUI programs, thanks
[15:34] <Psilocybin_Elf> I'm not sure I'm afraid...you mean stuff like libraries to use?
[15:34] <Psilocybin_Elf> with c & c++?
[15:35] <ablomen> TheCash, google for c++ linux, c++ gtk, c++ wxwidgets etc
[15:35]  * Psilocybin_Elf nods.
[15:35] <ablomen> and http://www.gtk.org/documentation.html
[15:35] <Psilocybin_Elf> GTK is the one to go for!
[15:35] <Psilocybin_Elf> Not Qt....lol :-P
[15:35] <TheCash> thanks
[15:36] <TheCash> i didn't no what to look for
[15:36] <TheCash> &know
[15:37] <Psilocybin_Elf> Dumb question, but does anyone know how to reg a nickname? Iv forgot......was years ago since I last reg.
[15:37] <ablomen> http://www.technerd.net/chanserv.html
[15:38] <ablomen> ohw ehm..
[15:38] <ablomen> fail
[15:38] <ablomen> http://www.technerd.net/nickserv.html :)
[15:38] <Psilocybin_Elf> cheers :-)
[15:44] <bazhang> !register
[16:22] <exs> how to install thunderbird
[16:23] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[16:28] <Lam3r_co> hallo again :)
[16:36] <eXpl0i7> Lam3r_co: hello
[17:12] <Lam3r_co> from what I read, xubuntu 8.04 has all the modules for supporting via padlock as default crypto engine, right?
[18:16] <Lam3r_co> pardon me, but can I update to newer kernel without actually compiling new one? It's gonna take 8 hours on this computer... I just need few modules
[18:18] <TheSheep> sure, just do an update
[18:18] <TheSheep> !update
[18:18] <TheSheep> um, that's upgrade :/
[18:18] <Lam3r_co> I have 8.04, so upgrade is also an option
[18:18] <TheSheep> anyways, your update manager should tell you when there are new versions of kernel available
[18:19] <TheSheep> and will let you install from repositories
[18:19] <TheSheep> if not, you can use the synaptic package manager to do that
[18:20] <Lam3r_co> update manager updated around 250 packages hour ago, but I have still have the same kernel after reboot
[18:20] <Lam3r_co> 2.6.24-19
[18:21] <Lam3r_co> so I'm gonna upgrade to 8.10 and then to 9.04 and then to 9.10 ?
[18:21] <TheSheep> Lam3r_co: upgrading between long-term support versions should be possible
[18:22] <TheSheep> !lts
[18:22] <TheSheep> damn, still 2 months of waiting
[18:23] <TheSheep> yeah, you will have to take the long path
[18:23] <Lam3r_co> if the manager cleans the mess after upgrading, I don't mind
[18:23] <Lam3r_co> I have only limited space
[18:23] <TheSheep> call 'apt-get clean' afterwards
[18:23] <TheSheep> with sudo, of course
[18:29] <Lam3r_co> yay, it is working \o/ thanks TheSheep
[18:47] <bob-has-an-imgbo> alright i need help, i went to grub 2 after restart, choosed recovery mode, waiting, choosed "resume", tried to login with my nickname XYZ and my password nice123tree. btw these aren't mine but anyway i didn't worked, i just failed why? how can i fix it? i can still go to "root" instead "resume" BUT i don't want to be root in recovery shell. plz help
[18:52] <bob-has-an-imgbo>  hi how can i login in shell of recovery mode (not root)?
[18:52] <bob-has-an-imgbo> my nick & pw aren't accepted by kubuntu
[18:52] <bob-has-an-imgbo> although with x i can log in
[18:52] <exs> passwd $USER
[18:52] <exs> strg+alt+f6
[18:53] <exs> login with root and then passwd user
[18:58] <bob-has-an-imgb1> is it normal that num-pad does not work in shell?
[19:00] <charlie-tca> If it is kubuntu, have you them? #kubuntu
[19:00] <charlie-tca> s/you them/you asked them
[19:00] <bob-has-an-imgb1> no it's xubuntu what?
[19:01] <charlie-tca> Are you sure it is the correct user name and password? They should match what was typed in during the install
[19:02] <charlie-tca> Normal for num-pad not to work until logged in.
[19:02] <bob-has-an-imgb1> yes i found the error,
[19:02] <bob-has-an-imgb1> just what u said
[19:02] <bob-has-an-imgb1> numpad does not work (numbers)
[19:02] <bob-has-an-imgb1> bad :/
[19:03] <charlie-tca> After you get to the desktop?
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> yes
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> no
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> when i use shell with x
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> num pad works
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> but if not
[19:03] <charlie-tca> correct
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> it doesnt work without x
[19:03] <bob-has-an-imgb1> bad ://
[19:04] <charlie-tca> That is correct behaviour, as far as I know.
[19:04] <bob-has-an-imgb1> :///
[19:05] <bob-has-an-imgb1> i am interested in gpm. how can i use mouse in shell without x?
[19:11] <bob-has-an-imgb1> thx everyone linux works fine now so far
[19:12] <charlie-tca> :-)
[19:12] <bob-has-an-imgb1> next step: gpm
[19:12] <bob-has-an-imgb1> i am very interested in shell, mouse and non-x
[19:12] <charlie-tca> You may have to google for that one
[19:12] <bob-has-an-imgb1> i do already =)
[19:21] <omar> Hi all.
[19:22] <omar> I just installed xubuntu, and updated my system, but I after I made a reboot, the frames of the windows won't appear at all. What could have gone wrong?
[19:22] <TheSheep> xfwm4 didn't start
[19:23] <TheSheep> try pressing alt+f2 and starting it manually
[19:24] <omar> TheSheep, Okay, I now I just got a little more control over the windows again, but still.. no frames.
[19:25] <TheSheep> you mean no frames around the windows?
[19:26] <omar> TheSheep, exactly.
[19:27] <omar> TheSheep, oh! Okay,
[19:27] <omar> Sorry. My mistake. :)
[19:27] <omar> The frames are there.
[19:28] <omar> But how can I stop this from happening every time I reboot?
[19:28] <omar> Do I add xfwm4 to my Startup Applications?
[19:28] <TheSheep> it shouldn't happen again, you may try saving the session on logout if it does
[19:29] <omar> TheSheep, I see.
[19:29] <TheSheep> it should be started automatically, unless something bad happened, like maybe out of memory
[19:29] <TheSheep> or it crashed
[19:29] <omar> I see.
[19:30] <omar> I know, it didn't happen to me when I first logged into my Xubuntu environment. But somehow it started happening after I made a system update.
[19:30] <omar> Thanks a lot for your time.
[20:23] <TheCash> does anyone know of a good resource for editing configuration files(like .desktop and theme files)?
[20:24] <vinnl> TheCash, for .desktop files you could check the desktop file specification at freedesktop.org
[20:24] <vinnl> Theme files should be Googable, "create a gtk theme" or something
[20:24] <TheCash> ok thanks
[22:12] <acalbaza> part
[22:28] <slow-motion> n8
[22:50] <Lam3r_co> you just have to love the estimated time counter
[22:50] <Lam3r_co> "10 minutes remaining". After 15 minuter without hearing beep as machine restarting "5 minutes remaining".
[22:56] <`mOOse`> my head hurts
[22:56] <knome> `mOOse`, good luck with it. i had a killer headache today as well.
[22:56] <`mOOse`> can some kind soul show me how to find files from the cli?
[22:57] <`mOOse`> thanks knome
[22:57] <knome> `mOOse`, locate ...
[22:57] <knome> `mOOse`, be sure to run 'sudo updatedb' first
[22:57] <`mOOse`> I've been wrestling with this vidalia/tor/polipo install for about 2 hours
[22:57] <`mOOse`> ok thanks
[22:57] <knome> `mOOse`, you could also use 'find', but haven't used it myself
[22:58] <`mOOse`> knome, and if it just comes right back to the prompt does that mean it didn't locate the file?
[22:59] <knome> `mOOse`, then it didn't find anything.
[22:59] <`mOOse`> ok
[22:59] <knome> `mOOse`, it'll list all files it found if something is found.
[22:59] <knome> `mOOse`, did you run 'sudo updatedb' ?
[23:00] <knome> that updates the file database from where locate searches
[23:00] <`mOOse`> yes I did
[23:00] <knome> okay
[23:00] <knome> then ... no luck this time ;)
[23:01] <`mOOse`> yea I was looking for a doc that an error was referencing
[23:01] <`mOOse`> of course, the doc doesn't exist
[23:03] <`mOOse`> to make it even more fun - another file I'm trying to locate is tor...there's only about 1034052 files on this install with the letters t, o, and r in them
[23:03] <`mOOse`> I know there's gotta be an easier way to do this
[23:05] <knome> hmm
[23:08] <charlie-tca> try putting a space in front and / or in back of tor
[23:10] <`mOOse`> ok
[23:11] <`mOOse`> no change
[23:12] <`mOOse`> vidalia wants to find it in /usr/sbin/tor....
[23:13] <`mOOse`> obviously it's not there - and this is where I'm new to linux and  xubuntu - I don't know where the common dirs are that apps install to
[23:13] <`mOOse`> I found the config files in /moose/.tor
[23:14] <charlie-tca> the executable files should be found in /usr/sbin/ or /usr/bin or /bin or /sbin
[23:14] <`mOOse`> yea that's where I've looked and I don't see it
[23:14] <`mOOse`> weird - let me look some more
[23:14] <charlie-tca> That is what it is looking for . Try 'which tor' and see if it finds anything in the path
[23:15] <`mOOse`> ok
[23:16] <`mOOse`> no output just goes back to the prompt
[23:16] <`mOOse`> when I just type "tor" at the prompt it tell me it's not installed, which it is
[23:18] <`mOOse`> it runs as a service - would that matter?
[23:18] <`mOOse`> (of course it would `mOOse` you retard)
[23:20] <charlie-tca> Is tor the full name it asks for? If it is, the file is not in the path, and going to be harder to find
[23:20] <charlie-tca> You can look in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/init for it.
[23:21] <`mOOse`> ok
[23:22] <`mOOse`> go joy
[23:22] <`mOOse`> er no
[23:23] <charlie-tca> Okay, here is a find command to try: find / -iname <WHAT_TO_FIND> -type f -fprint /home/$USER/Desktop/file-found_it
[23:24] <charlie-tca> It will put the results in the file called /home/$USER/Desktop/file-found-it for you to examine
[23:25] <`mOOse`>  ok
[23:25] <charlie-tca> It will also throw a lot of lines about what it could not look in onto the terminal screen
[23:26] <`mOOse`> probably should have sudo'd that
[23:26] <charlie-tca> Won't matter. It will still do the same thing
[23:28] <`mOOse`> heh..well...the only tor it found was in the setup
[23:28] <`mOOse`> ok, looks like I gotta do a bit of reading
[23:29] <charlie-tca> Well, at least you found that much out
[23:29] <`mOOse`> yep
[23:33] <oldtopman> hello all
[23:33]  * Psilocybin_Elf waves.
[23:36] <oldtopman> I just deleted the swap partition that xubuntu uses, then made a larger one. Will i have to tell it to use the resized one?
[23:36] <charlie-tca> yes
[23:37] <charlie-tca> It won't know until you do.
[23:37] <charlie-tca> You also have to add it to fstab, since it is different than the original one
[23:38] <oldtopman> how do i do that
[23:38] <charlie-tca> !swap
[23:40] <oldtopman> thanks all
[23:45] <genii> also: man mkswap
[23:47] <`mOOse`> thanks for the help charlie-tca  - I gotta split for a bit