[02:26] recently lost sound...still chirps when i shut down but thatś the only sound i can get it to make...ubuntu formum troubleshooting guide hasn´t helped..any suggestions...help...jokes???8-) [02:26] jokes? [02:28] hey...i got to have some fun....or i´d just scream...>:o [02:29] i seem to remember having sound problem when i first installed xubuntu...and it was a simple fix then...somthing to do with activating alsa [02:29] know the feeling all to well lol [02:29] what kind of sound do you mean? in general or sound effects? [02:30] double check that it is not muted is always a first step, that happened to me sadly [02:30] only sound i can get is the little beep that happens when i log off... [02:30] if it was muted wouldn´t that include logoff beep??? [02:31] like if you go to youtube or try to play sound files nothing happens? [02:31] try muting and unmuting? [02:31] sometimes funny things happen [02:31] i think this happened when i tried to install ubuntu-studio...then tried to remove it...too much ...and now i have no sounds [02:31] hrmph [02:31] k...will try... [02:32] that is a good piece of information that could be crucial :-P [02:32] i [02:34] well you are in right place, someone here could prolly help you but most people might be asleep [02:36] k...tried manual mute button on laptop...no sound after mute...unmute and get sound on typing errors (which i certainly make enuf of)...tried muting and unmuting with volume control.....alsa mixer...also tried mute and unmute in player....no help... [02:38] isn´t there a terminal command to make sure alsa is actually active??? [05:18] good morning Lords of the Code.... [05:19] Ok... so does this channel cover Lucid issues as well as Karmic issues? [05:19] anyone here know where I can get the latest xfce packages? Is there a binary somewhere or do I have to compile? [05:20] i get them in synaptic [05:20] I'm trying to figure out what the proper channel for Xubuntu Lucid support is being held [05:20] this is xubuntu support for all of them [05:21] Someone want to help me with bug 519641 [05:21] ? [05:21] Balsaq: well, im stuck on 9.10, and xfce on this version has bugs for dual monitors.. I know its been corrected, but I need later packages [05:21] have you recieved all your updates [05:22] Of course I have. [05:22] lucid support is in #ubuntu+1 including xubuntu [05:22] Thank you. :) [05:22] woops thanks bazhang [05:22] np :) [05:23] if 910 is current, why is it in that channel? [05:23] Lucid is not 9.10 [05:23] it is 10.4 [05:23] ah [05:23] rather 10.04 [05:24] Balsaq: yes I have.. I had the same issue on Arch, but later versions of XFCE got released and the problem got fixed.. I just need to upgrade a bit.. either another repo, something... [05:24] im still on 904! [05:24] so i cant run dual on my 904? [05:24] hi all... i'm considering jumping from mac to linux at home... [05:25] any suggestions on dual core 4gb ram 320 gb 256/512 vram laptops ... something as durable as a mac (my last two mac laptops lasted me 4-5 years) [05:25] Balsaq: yeah, i think you can- it just has some annoying bugs on the second screen [05:25] bugs the xfce devs fixed [05:25] yeah i tried it with ARk and it too had annoying bugs with dual [05:26] GSF1200S: if you think that's what it'll take, look into apt-pinning. [05:26] flah: xubuntu is pretty good.. Arch is good but a little more involved.. those would be my recommendations [05:26] Pinning is goodness if you want to update only specific packages and not others [05:26] Balsaq: yeah, I have to move off the taskbar and back onto it everytime I want to click something... [05:27] apt-pinning? huh.. never heard of it.. Ive been in Archland a while though [05:30] flah: haha.. im an idiot.. I thought you were asking for OS suggestions [05:30] um pinning's been around since the time of the ancients ( Debian Woody et al) [05:31] flah: I got my laptop from ibuypower.com, and it has been a brick. It was cheap for what I got, and it performed well [05:31] gsf1200s: thanks, i'll check 'em out! [05:32] syn-ack: I never really needed to stay up to date on my laptop, and my dual monitor i7 desktop has been on arch since i built it.. this is the first case where I really need something like apt-pinning [05:32] i just stole an i5 lapper [05:33] meaning i bought it really cheap [05:33] the other big question is ... has anyone managed to reliably migrate itunes meta data?... i've got well over 200gb of mp3/aac ... [05:34] GSF1200S: I'm pretty sure pinning is NOT supported in Ubuntu in any form whatsover... :/ [05:34] heh.. wow.. i5 laptop must be sweet. My lappie is a core2duo 2.16ghz, but its 3 years old. Has intel even released a better processor than the i7? I think the i5 and i3 are more midrange replacements, right? [05:35] syn-ack: ehh.. I can deal with breakage if it happens. Running arch unstable kinda numbs you to random issues [05:35] The Development version of XFCE is 4.6 BTW... that's what I'm running here. [05:37] syn-ack: 4.6.? Im on 4.6, but its the version shipped with xubuntu 9.10 [05:38] I thought 9.10 Shipped with 4.2 [05:39] what?! Ummm.. maybe with 7.10, but 9.10? Unless im missing something :) [05:39] meh, I don't know, I just started using Xubuntu myself [05:39] it shows 4.6.1 at menu>about xfce>info [05:39] I'm finally tired of the Gnome bloat [05:40] syn-ack: yeah.. and gnome sucks with 2 screens as well [05:40] meh [05:40] Never bothered me [05:40] syn-ack: kde 4.4 STILL has no support for seperate x sessions [05:40] xfce is the best dual monitor desktop environment in linux [05:41] window managers handle it well, but eh.. sometimes I like an environment.. just depends [09:24] xubuntu...the way, the truth, the light. === nikolam_ is now known as nikolam [11:58] hallo [12:00] * Psilocybin_Elf waves. [12:01] please, anyone uses xubuntu on via epia? I've got the slowest one 5000 series and want to use xubuntu in there [12:02] I would use epialinux.org, but wayback machine is having brainfarts [13:36] hi, ivh installed xubuntu but i cant see any thumbnails for flv data [13:36] xubuntu-restricted-extras is installed [13:36] but for avi it functions [13:53] hi, ivh installed xubuntu but i cant see any thumbnails for flv data. xubuntu-restricted-extras is installed. but for avi it functions [13:54] Not sure...I don't get thumbnail views in Xubuntu??! [13:54] was this a question? [13:55] i know its possible. cause i had a gnome and changed to xfce and u saw for every file thumbnails in thunar [14:09] exs: check that the mimetype returned by "file -i /path/to/your/video.flv" is listed in /usr/share/thumbnailers/ffmpeg-thumbnailer.desktop [14:22] mr_pouit: it is listed [14:34] its still not function [14:43] exs: mmh, you could check that you have the 'extra' variants of the ffmpeg libs (libavcodec, libavdevice, libavformat, libavutil...) installed, and if generating the thumbnail manually works (e.g. "ffmpegthumbnailer -i /path/to/your/video.flv -o thumb.png") [14:47] this command function [14:52] how to delete all saved thumbnails? [14:53] now he does not eve show thumbnails for images [14:55] exs: did you run (in a terminal) /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 and restart your session? [14:55] /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 is not existing [14:56] exs: which version of thunar are you using exactly? [14:56] ok ivh found it /usr/lib/thunar/thunar-vfs-update-thumbnailers-cache-1 [14:58] ok ivh executed this command and now it functions [14:58] thx [15:13] hello, I'm new to Xubuntu and was wondering if anyone knows a good place to learn how to program in C++ on it [15:16] HUllo [15:16] I'm not too sure about C or C++ [15:16] But I read that Python is better for starting off with. [15:17] well I already know C and C++ and was wanting to continue developing with those [15:18] I just can't find any info on where to start [15:31] TheCash, http://gcc.gnu.org/ [15:31] * Psilocybin_Elf nods. [15:33] I have the compilers what I need is API documentation for creating GUI programs, thanks [15:34] I'm not sure I'm afraid...you mean stuff like libraries to use? [15:34] with c & c++? [15:35] TheCash, google for c++ linux, c++ gtk, c++ wxwidgets etc [15:35] * Psilocybin_Elf nods. [15:35] and http://www.gtk.org/documentation.html [15:35] GTK is the one to go for! [15:35] Not Qt....lol :-P [15:35] thanks [15:36] i didn't no what to look for [15:36] &know [15:37] Dumb question, but does anyone know how to reg a nickname? Iv forgot......was years ago since I last reg. [15:37] http://www.technerd.net/chanserv.html [15:38] ohw ehm.. [15:38] fail [15:38] http://www.technerd.net/nickserv.html :) [15:38] cheers :-) [15:44] !register [15:44] Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode [16:22] how to install thunderbird [16:23] sudo apt-get install thunderbird [16:28] hallo again :) [16:36] Lam3r_co: hello [17:12] from what I read, xubuntu 8.04 has all the modules for supporting via padlock as default crypto engine, right? [18:16] pardon me, but can I update to newer kernel without actually compiling new one? It's gonna take 8 hours on this computer... I just need few modules [18:18] sure, just do an update [18:18] !update [18:18] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [18:18] um, that's upgrade :/ [18:18] I have 8.04, so upgrade is also an option [18:18] anyways, your update manager should tell you when there are new versions of kernel available [18:19] and will let you install from repositories [18:19] if not, you can use the synaptic package manager to do that [18:20] update manager updated around 250 packages hour ago, but I have still have the same kernel after reboot === `mOOse` is now known as mOOse` [18:20] 2.6.24-19 [18:21] so I'm gonna upgrade to 8.10 and then to 9.04 and then to 9.10 ? [18:21] Lam3r_co: upgrading between long-term support versions should be possible [18:22] !lts [18:22] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04). The next LTS release is scheduled to be !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04) [18:22] damn, still 2 months of waiting [18:23] yeah, you will have to take the long path [18:23] if the manager cleans the mess after upgrading, I don't mind [18:23] I have only limited space [18:23] call 'apt-get clean' afterwards [18:23] with sudo, of course [18:29] yay, it is working \o/ thanks TheSheep [18:47] alright i need help, i went to grub 2 after restart, choosed recovery mode, waiting, choosed "resume", tried to login with my nickname XYZ and my password nice123tree. btw these aren't mine but anyway i didn't worked, i just failed why? how can i fix it? i can still go to "root" instead "resume" BUT i don't want to be root in recovery shell. plz help [18:52] hi how can i login in shell of recovery mode (not root)? [18:52] my nick & pw aren't accepted by kubuntu [18:52] although with x i can log in [18:52] passwd $USER [18:52] strg+alt+f6 [18:53] login with root and then passwd user [18:58] is it normal that num-pad does not work in shell? [19:00] If it is kubuntu, have you them? #kubuntu [19:00] s/you them/you asked them [19:00] no it's xubuntu what? [19:01] Are you sure it is the correct user name and password? They should match what was typed in during the install [19:02] Normal for num-pad not to work until logged in. [19:02] yes i found the error, [19:02] just what u said [19:02] numpad does not work (numbers) [19:02] bad :/ [19:03] After you get to the desktop? [19:03] yes [19:03] no [19:03] when i use shell with x [19:03] num pad works [19:03] but if not [19:03] correct [19:03] it doesnt work without x [19:03] bad :// [19:04] That is correct behaviour, as far as I know. [19:04] :/// [19:05] i am interested in gpm. how can i use mouse in shell without x? [19:11] thx everyone linux works fine now so far [19:12] :-) [19:12] next step: gpm [19:12] i am very interested in shell, mouse and non-x [19:12] You may have to google for that one [19:12] i do already =) [19:21] Hi all. [19:22] I just installed xubuntu, and updated my system, but I after I made a reboot, the frames of the windows won't appear at all. What could have gone wrong? [19:22] xfwm4 didn't start [19:23] try pressing alt+f2 and starting it manually [19:24] TheSheep, Okay, I now I just got a little more control over the windows again, but still.. no frames. [19:25] you mean no frames around the windows? [19:26] TheSheep, exactly. [19:27] TheSheep, oh! Okay, [19:27] Sorry. My mistake. :) [19:27] The frames are there. [19:28] But how can I stop this from happening every time I reboot? [19:28] Do I add xfwm4 to my Startup Applications? [19:28] it shouldn't happen again, you may try saving the session on logout if it does [19:29] TheSheep, I see. [19:29] it should be started automatically, unless something bad happened, like maybe out of memory [19:29] or it crashed [19:29] I see. [19:30] I know, it didn't happen to me when I first logged into my Xubuntu environment. But somehow it started happening after I made a system update. [19:30] Thanks a lot for your time. [20:23] does anyone know of a good resource for editing configuration files(like .desktop and theme files)? [20:24] TheCash, for .desktop files you could check the desktop file specification at freedesktop.org [20:24] Theme files should be Googable, "create a gtk theme" or something [20:24] ok thanks [22:12] part [22:28] n8 [22:50] you just have to love the estimated time counter [22:50] "10 minutes remaining". After 15 minuter without hearing beep as machine restarting "5 minutes remaining". [22:56] <`mOOse`> my head hurts [22:56] `mOOse`, good luck with it. i had a killer headache today as well. [22:56] <`mOOse`> can some kind soul show me how to find files from the cli? [22:57] <`mOOse`> thanks knome [22:57] `mOOse`, locate ... [22:57] `mOOse`, be sure to run 'sudo updatedb' first [22:57] <`mOOse`> I've been wrestling with this vidalia/tor/polipo install for about 2 hours [22:57] <`mOOse`> ok thanks [22:57] `mOOse`, you could also use 'find', but haven't used it myself [22:58] <`mOOse`> knome, and if it just comes right back to the prompt does that mean it didn't locate the file? [22:59] `mOOse`, then it didn't find anything. [22:59] <`mOOse`> ok [22:59] `mOOse`, it'll list all files it found if something is found. [22:59] `mOOse`, did you run 'sudo updatedb' ? [23:00] that updates the file database from where locate searches [23:00] <`mOOse`> yes I did [23:00] okay [23:00] then ... no luck this time ;) [23:01] <`mOOse`> yea I was looking for a doc that an error was referencing [23:01] <`mOOse`> of course, the doc doesn't exist [23:03] <`mOOse`> to make it even more fun - another file I'm trying to locate is tor...there's only about 1034052 files on this install with the letters t, o, and r in them [23:03] <`mOOse`> I know there's gotta be an easier way to do this [23:05] hmm [23:08] try putting a space in front and / or in back of tor [23:10] <`mOOse`> ok [23:11] <`mOOse`> no change [23:12] <`mOOse`> vidalia wants to find it in /usr/sbin/tor.... [23:13] <`mOOse`> obviously it's not there - and this is where I'm new to linux and xubuntu - I don't know where the common dirs are that apps install to [23:13] <`mOOse`> I found the config files in /moose/.tor [23:14] the executable files should be found in /usr/sbin/ or /usr/bin or /bin or /sbin [23:14] <`mOOse`> yea that's where I've looked and I don't see it [23:14] <`mOOse`> weird - let me look some more [23:14] That is what it is looking for . Try 'which tor' and see if it finds anything in the path [23:15] <`mOOse`> ok [23:16] <`mOOse`> no output just goes back to the prompt [23:16] <`mOOse`> when I just type "tor" at the prompt it tell me it's not installed, which it is [23:18] <`mOOse`> it runs as a service - would that matter? [23:18] <`mOOse`> (of course it would `mOOse` you retard) [23:20] Is tor the full name it asks for? If it is, the file is not in the path, and going to be harder to find [23:20] You can look in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/init for it. [23:21] <`mOOse`> ok [23:22] <`mOOse`> go joy [23:22] <`mOOse`> er no [23:23] Okay, here is a find command to try: find / -iname -type f -fprint /home/$USER/Desktop/file-found_it [23:24] It will put the results in the file called /home/$USER/Desktop/file-found-it for you to examine [23:25] <`mOOse`> ok [23:25] It will also throw a lot of lines about what it could not look in onto the terminal screen [23:26] <`mOOse`> probably should have sudo'd that [23:26] Won't matter. It will still do the same thing [23:28] <`mOOse`> heh..well...the only tor it found was in the setup [23:28] <`mOOse`> ok, looks like I gotta do a bit of reading [23:29] Well, at least you found that much out [23:29] <`mOOse`> yep [23:33] hello all [23:33] * Psilocybin_Elf waves. [23:36] I just deleted the swap partition that xubuntu uses, then made a larger one. Will i have to tell it to use the resized one? [23:36] yes [23:37] It won't know until you do. [23:37] You also have to add it to fstab, since it is different than the original one [23:38] how do i do that [23:38] !swap [23:38] swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info [23:40] thanks all [23:45] also: man mkswap [23:47] <`mOOse`> thanks for the help charlie-tca - I gotta split for a bit