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jmhoor how can I otherwise get to a shell prompt (in lucid) ?00:00
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AssociateXI have a partition ext3 called storage. How can I give it read and write, no-execute to all my users?00:06
Karhudoes anyone use xmms2 ? with a graphical front end ?00:08
Karhuor know of any nice ones ?00:10
Soul_Sample_i have just upgraded to kde 4.4 and it broke my pulseaudio server. regular sound works, but i cannot have multiple applications access the sound card. any solution is ok (fix pulse, or fix multiple sources)00:14
Lars_Gwhat was the url for the 4.4 thingy?00:16
Lars_GOj... topic00:17
Lars_Gnvm00:17
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frandoHey. I just updated my whole system, now I'm running 9.10 and kde sc 4.4. I am right now using the radeon opensource driver, i've got a mobility radeon hd 2600 card. glxinfo tellx me direct rendering "yes" but when I enable kwin desktop effects i just get some grey boxes on the screen.00:30
frandoSo my question: does kwin support compositing with radeon driver at all or do i have to use fglrx to get desktop effects?00:31
vbgunzI just upgraded to 4.4. isn't there supposed to be a new option to remove the shadow from the theme? oxygen still has a pesky non-modifable shadow on the window border. wasn't this fixed?00:49
MWisBestI recently tried to see if the virtuoso-server package bug was fixed (it wasn't) and now after uninstalling the whole virtuoso-server thing I have a cpu monitor up in the upper right corner of my screen. How do I get rid of it? I'm on Lucid.00:49
vbgunzgot it00:52
vbgunzfinally00:52
AssociateX I have a partition ext3 called storage2, how do I set it up in fstab to mount rw -x for all users on this computer? Kind of like how /tmp works.  I have googled the heck out of this.00:59
Goliathv00:59
Goliathdoes anyone know where the smplayer icon is located?00:59
vbgunzanybody know why konversation after upgrading to 4.4 has random dots all throughout the titlebar area?00:59
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vbgunzanybody have dual screen with nvidia binary drivers, do you have dots on your titlebar if you drag your window to the top? what could be causing this?01:15
vbgunznepomuk after logging in, says, nepomuk not running. agent disabled. any solutions to anything above?01:15
ToxinPowevbgunz: I don't have dots on my titlebar01:17
ToxinPowedual screen+nvidia binary01:17
vbgunzhmm, I have dual screens with nvidias binary and on screen 1 I have konversation right under a top panel and dots are intermittingly showing up. if I move the window the dots move or multiply or disappear. any window I move to that area gets the dots in the border01:18
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vbgunzI just upgraded to 4.4. this was not seen in 4.301:18
ToxinPowemy setup is almost the same top panel and konversation on 4.401:19
ToxinPoweI don't know sry :s01:19
vbgunzwhat about nepomuk? anybody know what happend on the upgrade to 4.4?01:20
ToxinPowevbgunz: maybe with a fresh cfg, mv .kde .kde-OLD :m01:20
vbgunznepomuk indexing agent have been disabled01:20
vbgunzToxinPowe: yeah *but* damn, I really don't want to do that. too much counting on that folder :/01:21
ToxinPoweyep, but you can move old folders if works01:22
vbgunzperformance regressed for me too. :/01:24
vbgunzim gonna try creating a new user and seeing what happens on that account01:25
PenneitEvbgunz: What method did you use to upgrade?01:28
vbgunzsudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade using the ppa backports01:30
PenneitEOkay, I was about to ask if these packages were safe to use01:30
PenneitEDo you think I should upgrade then?01:30
PenneitECause last time I tried to upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 without waiting for the next release, I ended up regrettin it, too01:31
ToxinPoweI update 2pcs, only 1 problem for know, with spanish keyboards01:31
vbgunzgonna try something01:32
PenneitEPlus it looks like the backports PPA is still having packages built right now01:32
PenneitE*building01:32
ToxinPowebye01:34
whirleystaraaackk!  trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/qvfb', which is also in package qt-x11-free-dbg 3:3.3.8-b-5ubuntu301:35
whirleystarupgrading to 4.4 and i get above... i forget, how do you force overwrite?01:36
PenneitEI'd like to know, too01:39
whirleystarhaha... i sounded like Cathy..... output is here: http://pastebin.com/m7f55587201:39
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whirleystarhmm.. after reading around --force-overwrite may not be the smart (or even right) thing to do.... anyone have any advice? (http://pastebin.com/m7f555872)01:54
JontheEchidnathe only thing bad that would happen is that using the dbg symbols to get backtraces for Qt3 apps wouldn't work01:57
whirleystarJontheEchidna: sounds expendable... thanks01:57
JontheEchidnathe correct thing for the packagers to do to correct this issue is to just make these packages conflict each other01:58
JontheEchidnawell, speaking as on of them that's my position :P01:59
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daskreech!info rekonq lucid02:35
ubotturekonq (source: rekonq): KDE web browser based on Webkit. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 375 kB, installed size 1124 kB02:35
satepcCan someone send me the packaging link for 4.4 kde kubuntu process?02:36
ansongi'm sure this is an easy question but i haven't found an answer yet: i can't right click my desktop and get a menu anymore. i can right click files in dolphin, etc. just not the desktop02:40
ansongjust updated to 4.402:40
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ansonghello?02:44
satepcI don't think 4.4 is ready yet02:47
ansongcan anyone else not right click their desktop anymore?02:48
ansongok, seems to be solved by checking "different activity for each desktop" under system settings / desktop / multiple desktops02:50
ansongwhat an intuitive spot to put that02:50
daskreechansong: you probably disabled all the menu plugins02:51
ansongi probably should have renamed .kde before upgrading02:51
ansongwhere would i have done that?02:51
daskreechMy memory might be bad but by right clicking on the Desktop :)02:52
satepckde 4.4 isn't ready for kubuntu I though02:52
satepct02:52
daskreechsatepc: good thing is that you don't need to use it :)02:53
ansonglol, then i'm pretty sure it wasn't me. i didn't get anything right clicking the desktop02:53
ansongwhat issues have you found satepc?02:53
satepcdaskreech:  any idea when it will be ready for kubuntu02:53
satepcI haven't installed it yet ansong02:53
ansongthe looks have gotten better every time at  least02:53
satepcWanna show a screenshot :p02:54
ansongsrslly?02:54
daskreechsatepc: Look in the topic :)02:54
satepcWhat topic?02:54
daskreechthe one you get by typing /topic02:55
satepcah02:55
ansongchat in offtopic? oops02:55
satepchow do you install it?02:55
daskreechsatepc: http://www.kubuntu.org02:55
ansongi followed the directions on that site. didn't take too long.02:56
ansongi'll head into offtopic now02:56
satepcIm not on irc for links, I'm here for real time help02:57
ansongwhat's the issue you're having satepc?03:01
satepcI'm just trying to figure out how to install kde4.403:01
satepcI have 4.303:01
jadamczesatepc: Add the kubuntu backports ppa, install updated packages.03:02
ansongwhat he said03:02
satepcYup got it working now03:05
satepcwow kubuntu worked all day getting this packaged03:06
satepcNow what ansong just reboot?03:09
tsimpsonyou don't need to reboot, just logout and back in again03:09
satepcI logged out, but what is different?03:13
tsimpsonopen a KDE app, go to Help -> About KDE, look at the version03:13
satepc4.3503:14
ansongdid you use the kpackagekit or a aptitude / apt-get on the command line?03:15
tsimpsonyou haven't upgraded then, open your package manager and upgrade or use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"03:15
ansongthe dist-upgrade was necessary. i forgot and just ran upgrade which updated a lot but didn't go all the way03:16
satepckoackage03:19
satepcummm03:25
satepcI rebooted, its still saying 4.403:25
satepci checked kb3 app03:25
satepc4.3*03:26
kde185quick question: how do I close applications when using kde 4.4 with the plasma netbook shell03:29
kde185meh I guess I can just try and figure it out03:30
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IzinucsYeeeeHaa.. I just got Twinkle to connect to my office PBX.. cool kde app03:50
pushaxhi all.  Can someone tell me the device name for Pulseaudio?  I ahve xvidcaputre and I want to capture audio but don't knwo the device name it asks.  I looked in /dev and no find03:51
jschallwhat, we have this dumbass indicator applet thing on kubuntu now? how do i ditch it? it followed me all the way from gnome, apparently.04:03
jschalloops, i just deleted my panel.04:03
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talleni cant find anyone else with this problem: after installing kde4.4 from the karmic-backports ppa it no longer boots into kde.  Ctrl+Alt+F1 is scrambled also.04:20
tallenCtrl+Alt+F7 shows a black screen with the cursor and a messagebox about unable to load the oxygen theme...04:20
talleni also apt-get remove'd kde (as best i could) and re-installed 4.404:21
jschallwhat causes "blocked updates?"04:22
tallenjschall: many things...unmet dependencies (ie broken packages, missing apt sources, etc) for one04:23
darthanubisthx for the 4.404:36
darthanubisthose upgrading don't discard the beta ppa just yet04:36
darthanubisstill depends in there you need04:36
vbgunzI have a list of packages for apt-get or aptitude. I need to remove packages from this list that will automatically be installed. how do I go about that?04:43
scunizivbgunz: since you posted in 2 channels.. I'll bite.. are you talking about an update?04:45
vbgunzscunizi: I have a list of packages I originally got from dpkg --get-selections. thing is, its huge. 664 packages. I know some if not most of those packages are dependencies. I want to filter that list into a readable list of packages. otherwise it is cryptic04:46
vbgunzI am just trying to filter out the names of packages in that list that are automatically going to be installed based in another package actually depending on it04:46
scunizivbgunz: what was the original intent.. to list all the main packages?04:47
vbgunzfor example: libssl-dev Depends zlib1g-dev ... so remove libssl-dev from that long list04:47
vbgunzscunizi: pretty much. only show the main packages.04:48
scuniziah.. ok.. do you have to do this via dpkg or would you be willing to get that list in a different fashion?04:48
vbgunzscunizi: I already got the list but other than that, I am cool with whatever works :)04:49
vbgunzwhat do you have in mind?04:49
scuniziok.. there's a web page that shows all the main packages broken down by repo ie Main, backports, by release version etc.. packages.ubuntu.com04:50
F40PH!ops04:50
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco04:50
vbgunzI should have a list just like that in text form I believe on my very system. I don't know where it is or what its called :/04:50
geniiF40PH: Don't do that04:51
F40PH!ops04:51
F40PHi just did04:51
F40PH!ops04:51
rumpsyWat for04:51
scunizivbgunz: possibly but I don't either.. perhaps in /etc/apt but I'm guessing04:51
scunizivbgunz: maybe sudo updatedb and then locate *.deb04:52
vbgunzI can find the debs :(04:53
vbgunzscunizi: thanks for trying to help. I wish dpkg was smart enough to figure it out04:54
scunizivbgunz: have you "man dpkg" 'd yet?.. (wish hope and a prayer)04:54
vbgunzno, using --get-selections is what I am referring too. im in it now, though I am betting its not there. I tried this before and failed04:55
darthanubisnepomuk keeps stopping after login04:58
scunizivbgunz: I'm checking on #linux .. you've got my curiosity up :)05:02
harolddo1ganybody had a problem booting after installing 4.4?05:03
vbgunzscunizi: apt-cache has some good stuff05:03
vbgunzapt-cache dump is looking promising05:03
scunizivbgunz: there's got to be more "switches" to narrow it down05:03
vbgunzyeah, be sweet I can get a python dictionary out of the deal ;)05:04
vbgunzscunizi: hmm, apt-cache is really looking up right now05:05
vbgunzthanks you for your interest. worse comes to worse, I'll try parsing some of this stuff05:05
KageNight all!05:05
scunizithis is the fun stuff05:05
vbgunzscunizi:  it appears apt-cache depends <my list of packages> will get me a good list to start parsing. im anxious. going to reinvent a wheel or two :)05:06
tsimpsonwhy do you need to prune the list?05:07
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scunizivbgunz: check out dpkg -l \* | grep '^[^i]i'05:08
tsimpsonyou don't need the '*', "dpkg -l|egrep '^ii'" will work05:09
vbgunzscunizi: nothing05:09
vbgunzI just piped apt-cache depends <mylist> to a file and am checking that out quick05:09
scunizitsimpson: we're trying to get a list of packages available without the dependancies associated with them.. is that the right way?05:10
tsimpsonscunizi: my question is, why is that needed?05:10
tsimpson"dpk -l|egrep '^ii'" lists _all_ installed packages05:10
scunizitsimpson: not sure but that's what vbgunz is trying to do05:11
scunizitsimpson: I think he want a list of the repo packages available... main packages without dependancies05:11
tsimpsonif you just want a list of default packages, look at the dependencies of ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, and kubuntu-desktop05:12
scunizitsimpson: where do you find that list05:12
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vbgunztsimpson: that is not the list I am looking for05:13
tsimpsonscunizi: either "apt-cache show <package>" or "apt-cache depends <package>"05:14
tsimpsonvbgunz: so what are you trying to do exactly?05:14
vbgunztsimpson: I could be far off. kubuntu has or had or damn I couldn't find it a way to let me know my own downloading history. some times I download packages that have many dependencies. if I remember to remove the package the dependencies go. thats fine. but over the span of about 3 years. whoa. too many. its nuts :(05:15
scunizivbgunz: apt-get autoremove or autoclean05:16
tsimpson!deborphan05:16
vbgunzso I am just trying to filter a long list I got from dpkg-selections into a list of main packages in which I know I installed or know I need. its hard running through 664 packages atm... I would like to filter it down even further05:16
ubottudeborphan is a program used to clean up packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept).05:16
tsimpsonyou can use deborphan to remove packages that nothing depends on05:16
bobbob1016I added backports, did apt-get update, but I get a lot of unresolvable dependencies, is tehere another repo to add?05:16
bobbob1016there*05:16
scunizitsimpson: that's a new one for me.. never knew that existed.. thanks05:16
vbgunzscunizi: autoclean autoremove are awesome. when you know the main packahe you're removing. my case is about 3 years of cli apps, etc05:16
scunizivbgunz: I use it on occation and it seems to clean things that are no longer needed.. dependancies and such.. perhaps deborphan will work for you as tsimpson suggested.05:17
tsimpsonjust be careful not to remove anything you're not sure about05:18
tsimpsonif it starts with "lib", "linux", "ubuntu" or "kubuntu", leave it :)05:18
vbgunzscunizi: deborphan not really. kubuntu already does most of it. my issue is not in finding the packages I have installed *but* filtering a list of packages I have that I haven't even installed yet05:19
scuniziwith deborphan? .. if it's orphaned then shouldn't it have no other packages dependant on it?05:19
vbgunzscunizi: the list of packages I have are not installed05:19
vbgunzi am going through this list to run it through apt-get05:19
scunizik05:19
vbgunzI think I can parse the apt-cache depends list enough for me to do what needs to be done05:20
tsimpsonvbgunz: use something like05:20
tsimpsonwhile read pkg; do dpkg -l|egrep '^ii'|grep -q $pkg || echo "You need to install $pkg";done < my_package_list05:20
vbgunztsimpson: hold up. too much cli-fu right there atm05:21
vbgunz:)05:21
harolddo1gwhat are the computer visionn libraries (libcv1, livcvaux1 & libhighgui1) for and why did they get pulled in when I did a dist-upgrade?05:21
tsimpsonor: dpkg -l|egrep '^ii'|awk '{print $2}' > installed; while read pkg; do egrep -q "^$pkg$" installed || echo "$pkg"05:22
tsimpsonvbgunz: "dpkg -l|egrep '^ii' > installed" dumps your installed packages to a file called "installed"05:23
scuniziharolddo1g: dist-upgrade pulls in new version of available packages05:23
tsimpsonvbgunz: "while read pkg; do egrep -q "^$pkg$" installed || echo "$pkg" < wanted_packages" will read each line from "wanted_packages" and check for that line in "installed", if it's not there it'll print out the line (package)05:24
tsimpsonbash is fun :)05:24
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vbgunzyeah you got the fu ;)05:24
harolddo1gyeah these packages weren't installed before though. I'm wondering if it has something to with the fact that I cant get a login screen after upgrading to 4.405:24
scuniziharolddo1g: perhaps.. reboot to find out :)05:25
harolddo1gI've done that a few times now05:25
harolddo1gfunny thing is right after installing 4.4 I could get a login screen, just garbled graphics.  then dist-upgrade pulled in these computer vision libs.  now aptitude update is wanting to remove them05:26
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harolddo1g*I mean right after installing 4.4 I COULDN'T get a loginn screen05:27
harolddo1gnobody has had a problem with 4.4 like that?05:27
harolddo1ghmmm05:27
bobbob1016harolddo1g, What repos did you use?05:30
harolddo1gkubuntu-ppa backports repo05:31
bobbob1016harolddo1g, Because I have the same repo and I'm getting unresolved dependencies05:32
harolddo1gyeah me too kdeartwork and kdetoys won't fully update for me.  BUt that wouldn't effect the boot would it?05:33
harolddo1gI can boot into the recovery mode and then just choose continue regular to get to a console login... but if I just try and do a regular boot the screen glitches out before it evenn gets to the login screen so I can't even choose console login05:35
bobbob1016harolddo1g, I think your booting is a different issue.  KDE has nothing to do with "booting" as such, it is just a gui.  Hard to explain.  Do you see your bios screen?  Then Grub or your bootloader?  Then any linux screen?05:35
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harolddo1gbootloader shows up fine.  the problem has got to be with one of the packages I just updated, which were all kde packages. As I said once go through recovery I can console login just, like I'm doing now, but as soon as the grapical elements try and run it glitches out05:38
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harolddo1ghow do you reconfigure the xserver on karmic?05:40
bretzelMy god! KDE 4.4.0 from backport screwed ALL apt!!! cannot do any updates anymore!05:40
harolddo1gis there another source for 4.4 besides the backports repo?05:41
bretzel/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5_4%3a4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1_i386.deb brokes I relly need kdelibs and -dev05:42
jadamczebretzel: have you tried -f with apt-get ?05:42
harolddo1gthe dependency problems with the 4.4 backports repo seems to boil down the packages wanting a different version of libkscreensaver than is available. without it kdeartwork and kdetoys won't update05:43
bretzelyes that's what showed the error above05:43
bretzelharol... : seems more than just libkscreensaver and kopte! LOTS of pkg are screwed05:44
bretzelI even did ( useless ) apt-get upgrade -f05:45
harolddo1gwell I assumed somethinng was really wrong with it somewhere since updating to it ruined my ability to login graphically05:46
bretzelKubuntu admins/dev got horribly too fast and really screwed up our kde systems!05:49
bretzelI am in a very stressed project development and I will have to wipeout Kubuntu isntallation!05:49
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FeasibilityStudyI am trying to update KDE via the ppa.  However I am getting 54 blocked updates.  I tried installing these yesterday and borked my system.  Is there anything I should do to install this? or should I just disable the ppa?05:53
darthanubisyou not use kpagageit05:53
darthanubisit is terrible05:53
darthanubisuse synaptic05:53
FeasibilityStudyim not05:53
darthanubisor the cli05:54
FeasibilityStudyI am using aptitude05:54
darthanubiswow05:54
darthanubiswell I used synaptic and running 4.4 right now perfectly05:54
FeasibilityStudyyou didn't have blocked updates?05:54
darthanubisI know I know, I would have perfererred not to install synaptic but it is the best thing going05:54
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darthanubisno05:54
darthanubisI had the beta ppa and then added the backports ppa05:55
darthanubisthy both must be enabled05:55
darthanubisthey05:55
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FeasibilityStudyHere is how I have the Kubuntu-ppa-backports in my sources.list:05:56
FeasibilityStudydeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main05:56
FeasibilityStudy 05:56
FeasibilityStudydeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main05:57
darthanubisyeah I don't manually edit my source.list05:57
darthanubisno need to05:57
FeasibilityStudyis that correct?05:57
darthanubislooks fine05:57
FeasibilityStudywell I am getting 54 blocked updates05:57
FeasibilityStudyands that is what screwed me up yesterday..So obviously I am doing something wrong05:58
darthanubiswhat does apt-get dsy?05:58
darthanubissay?05:58
FeasibilityStudyalso I have the regular kubuntu backports enabled as well.05:58
darthanubissudo apt-get dist-upgrade05:58
FireCrotchdo sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest kde05:58
FireCrotchthe updates are blocked because they require the installation of some new packages, not just upgrades of older ones05:59
FeasibilityStudyok thats it..05:59
FeasibilityStudyDUH05:59
FeasibilityStudythanks fire05:59
darthanubisknew it05:59
FeasibilityStudyI was just trying to upgrade05:59
darthanubisthats why I said skip aptitude05:59
FireCrotchI hate the new way of choosing plasma widgets05:59
darthanubisme too06:00
FireCrotchis there a way to get back the old dialog-based system?06:00
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FeasibilityStudyi guess I will find out when it installs..  Overall I hope it is better06:00
FireCrotchooo there's a pidgin plasmoid now06:01
FireCrotchoh wait thats not useful at all06:02
FireCrotchat least not on my laptop06:02
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darthanubis ooo there's a pidgin plasmoid now???06:06
FireCrotchwell this does not bode well... kdeinit4 just segfaulted on me06:06
FeasibilityStudyok im done installing.. Going to logout.  :::Crosses fingers:::06:08
naught101what's the equivalent of kdebase-dev for kde3? I'm trying to compile a qt3 app (kxmleditor) and all it tells me is onfigure: error: Can't find X includes.06:29
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rethushow can i start firestarter as root without enter a password at kde-boottime?06:51
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FeasibilityStudyrethus: get rid of firestarter and use ufw/gufw07:01
rethusi like firestarter, has a nice - quite easy gui07:02
rethusand overview of all access attempts07:02
rethusbut did u know how i can start a programm as root without every startup to enter the passwd?07:03
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pucko-is it only me that get a dependency problem with kdeartwork sc 4.4 not installing (it wants kscreensaver 4:4.4.0a, but only 4:4.4.0 is available)07:15
pucko-?07:15
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e_t_After the upgrade to 4.4, my virtual terminals are invisible. I think it's something to do with kdm. Is there a fix for it?07:17
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pucko-e_t_, probably in kdmrc as you said. I noticed that it removed the line "ConsoleTTYs=tty1,tty2,tty3,tty4,tty5,tty6" from mine during upgrade.07:20
pucko-you should probably have a kdmrc.dpkg-old in there so you can check what it changed07:20
e_t_where would I find that>07:21
e_t_?07:21
pucko-in /etc/kde4/kdm07:21
pucko-e_t_, were you able to install kdeartwork (or kscreensaver) in your upgrade?07:22
e_t_No. Aptitude wanted to downgrade it to 4.3.407:22
pucko-ok07:22
harolddo1glibkscreensaver is the wrong version I have the same problem07:23
e_t_kdmrc and kdmrc.dpkg-old are substantially identical for me.07:23
harolddo1gCould a kdmrc problem also be the reason my machine won't boot to a graphical login since updating to 4.4?07:24
pucko-oh, I have to very different kdmrc files there.07:25
e_t_harolddo1g: you've probably got the same problem I have. Can you see anything in your virtual terminals?07:25
pucko-but I guess it added mostly comments07:26
harolddo1gI can do a console login if I go through the recovery option in the boot menu and terminals work07:27
e_t_When Kubuntu loads, the bar scrolls across the screen, the screen goes crazy with colors, then black. Then I get the spinning cursor, a flash of crazy color and I see the login screen for a second. From then on, I see only a blinking cursor, but if I type my password, it will begin logging in. Weird.07:29
harolddo1gyeah I get the weird colors.  it looks like an 8bit videgame gltch or something. I dont get the login for a moment like you do though.. I havent tried just typing the pass to see what happens07:31
e_t_Once I'm logged in, everything works wonderfully.07:33
harolddo1gguess I could try just typing my password07:35
jschalli'm trying to install 4.4 and a whole bunch of packages were "kept back"07:38
jschallthis is getting really annoying and i wish it would explain why packages are being kept back.07:38
darthanubisjschall: use apt-get07:39
jschallso now a bunch of stuff is broken07:39
darthanubisjschall: because you have no idea what you are doing07:39
jschalldarthanubis: i was using apt-get initially and it kept packages back so now i'm trying aptitude07:39
darthanubisdon't blame others07:39
darthanubisuse apt-get07:39
darthanubissudo apt-get dusit-upgrade07:39
jschalldarthanubis: ok, how?07:39
darthanubisdid you do that?07:39
jschallthere we go07:39
darthanubissudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:39
jschallcool, thanks!07:39
darthanubissheesh07:40
jussi01darthanubis: keep it friendly please. :)07:40
darthanubisnp07:40
darthanubisyou tell me to keep it friendly. I thought help was considered friendly?07:40
jschalli'm not blaming anyone. if it had a damn hint that said (try dist-upgrade) or something it would be a lot nicer07:40
jschallbut it is my fault for not knowing that07:40
darthanubisjussi01: he was the one getting ready to rip your community a new one07:40
jschalldarthanubis: i have no problem taking responsibility for not knowing why free software works, and i have no problem politely helping others with their issues when i know how.07:43
jschallby the way, why does aptitude behave differently from apt-get?07:43
darthanubishttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-vs.-aptitude-363365/07:44
darthanubishttp://pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/07:45
darthanubisjussi01: s the ops have my name on pounce huh?07:46
jussi01darthanubis: none as far as I know, I just noticed you telling a user "because you have no idea what you are doing" which didnt seem overly friendly to me.07:47
darthanubishmph. I suposse.07:47
darthanubisjschall: I have anger management issues. Nothing personal.07:48
vbgunzanyone know whtss up with the KDE 4.4 nepomuk indexing agent being disabled at start up?07:53
harolddongdoes the tag database actually work for anybody yet in 4.4?07:57
Bonst4rstrigi even works yet?07:59
harolddongnepomuk strigi was actually working fine in 4.3 if you set it up with the sesame backend. tagging and search were slow but usable. since they have gone to 4.4 and virtuso it's been pretty screwed08:01
vbgunzhmm. seems KDE 4.4 in Kubuntu is more beta than stable. runner just crashed. konsole just froze. effects are badly shot. window grouping sort of breaks the entire group :/08:01
vbgunzI applaud the devs for trying hard to stay as up to date as possible and as fast as possible but 4.4 seems really borked :(08:02
harolddongyou get tagging to work fine but I havent been able to get the search to recognize the tag database since vituoso so its useless08:02
Bonst4rloLs best not to try to hard08:03
jussi01vbgunz: its in a PPA, you run it at your own risk ;) I assume you have restarted kde since the update?08:04
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harolddongits one of the coolest new kde features it's frustrating that they just can't get it to work08:04
vbgunzyeah several times I rebooted. usually I trust the ppa but I guess on something this big well, probably wasn08:04
vbgunzthe brightest idea*08:04
jussi01vbgunz: pop into #kubuntu-devel and let them know the issues, Im sure theyll try fix them if they can.08:05
darthanubisvbgunz: http://socceroosd.blogspot.com/2010/02/kubuntu-karmic-kde-44-and-nepomuk.html08:06
crissihello. when kde 4.4.0 packages will be available for jaunty (http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu)?08:06
vbgunzjussi01: what is frightening is, almost everything is broken and this was pretty much a clean upgrade from 9.10.08:06
darthanubisit works fine08:06
darthanubisnothing is broken08:07
darthanubisit is all user error08:07
darthanubisrelax08:07
jussi01darthanubis: again, not so friendly ;)08:07
darthanubismatter of opinion I guess08:07
darthanubisI'd find it friendly to know my software was not garbage, and that I was overlooking something08:08
darthanubisSomething I could fix and was given a link to by some anonymous who did not have to08:08
darthanubisi find that extremely friendly08:08
darthanubisI don't talk down to peopel08:09
darthanubisseems to the ubuntu way is to assume people are idiots with the emotional maturity level of 12yr olds08:09
vbgunzdarthanubis: no joke. im not kidding. I just did a fresh install of the root partition. updated, dist-upgraded, enabled the ppa, did another update and dist-upgrade. so many things are broken. I been using k/ubuntu for years. this is pretty much out of the box experience. so many things aren't working like they should. just doesn't seem stable. more beta if anything :(08:10
darthanubisbut, that is a matter of opinion as well08:10
darthanubisvbgunz: that is strange08:10
darthanubisvbgunz: I just upgraded from RC2 a few hours ago, and all is stable08:11
vbgunzim gonna try that virtuoso walkthrough from the blog link08:11
darthanubisjussi01: see, he is not crying. Why don't you at least wait til someone is offended?08:11
fincanhello, I have a problem with amarok after upgrading to 4.4, whenever I start the amarok, it crashes and I read a solution that I should disable aoutamtic cover fetching but how can I disable it?08:12
darthanubisvbgunz: it is really just a matter of deleting the nepomuk folder08:12
darthanubisbut since you clean installed that should not be an issue08:12
darthanubisfincan: it is in the options of course08:12
fincandarthanubis: in amarok?08:13
darthanubisthats what you asked about?08:13
darthanubisthe options of the discussed program yes08:14
fincandarthanubis: but amarok craches too fast before I can reach options :)08:14
darthanubisnot that sucks08:14
darthanubisnow08:14
darthanubisdelete amaroks folder08:14
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vbgunzgonna try and see whats up, brb08:15
darthanubisamarok no longer plays sound08:17
Bonst4rmake some noise08:17
darthanubisweird neither is juk08:18
darthanubiswhat did I do?08:18
sheytanHI there. I've got kubuntu backports ppa, and it shows  me that i've got 78updates  and 55 blocked updates of KDE 4.4. What should i do?08:19
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Bonst4rdist-upgrade?08:19
vbgunzstill get the nepomuk agent disabled notification. following the steps on the blog and trying to mv the nepomuk folder into a backup.08:20
sheytanBonst4r should I?08:20
Bonst4ryea08:20
Bonst4rupdate then dist-upgrade08:20
darthanubisvbgunz: I persobnally scraped the whole neomuk dir08:21
sheytanOk, it will not broke anything?:D08:21
Bonst4rdont think so08:21
darthanubisthere are no guarantees08:21
darthanubisbut it is how ppl are upgrading08:21
sheytanOK, will try ;)08:21
Bonst4rwell08:22
Bonst4ri removed the betas and rc 1st08:22
Bonst4rthen installed the final08:22
Bonst4rjust in case08:22
sheytanI've got 4.3.5 now ;)08:22
vbgunzdarthanubis: rather than scrap the I pretty much moved it out of there08:23
vbgunzdidn't want to just delete it08:23
darthanubisit will be rebuilt anyway08:23
darthanubisyou don't have anything in it with a clean install08:23
vbgunzdarthanubis: I am still using my home directory08:23
darthanubishas nothign to do with your home dir08:24
darthanubisthe db will be rebuilt08:24
FeasibilityStudydarthanubis: do you happen to post over at BBR forums?08:24
vbgunzyou're talking about the ~/.kde/share/apps/nepomuk folder? thats carried over from my old install as it sits in my home dir08:24
darthanubisFeasibilityStudy: yes08:25
FeasibilityStudydarthanubis: so do I ;)08:25
darthanubisvbgunz: i c08:25
daskreechvbgunz: you fixed something earlier08:25
darthanubisFeasibilityStudy: ;) How did you find me :-P08:25
FeasibilityStudystalking it's a challenge, but rewarding. ;)08:25
vbgunzdaskreech: ?08:26
daskreechvbgunz: How did you do it?08:26
daskreechvbgunz: Sorry 3:30 am here08:26
vbgunzdaskreech: what did I fix?08:26
FeasibilityStudyI like 4.4 pretty well.  One thing that is annoying is how to get icons onto the Desktop folder08:26
daskreechYou had said you were looking to fix something then you said never mind I found it and left08:27
daskreechDidn't get a chance to ask where the setting was08:27
daskreechShadow or something?08:27
vbgunzusually I post my findings. I wish I could remember :/08:27
vbgunzI'll check my logs08:27
ubuntukujust upgraded to 4.4, but kdeartwork kscreensaver seems to be broken08:27
vbgunzubuntuku: watch out, that could be a matter of opinion ;)08:28
ubuntuku:)08:28
daskreechFeasibilityStudy: How do get them there?08:28
ubuntukudid you get those packages working?08:29
daskreechFeasibilityStudy: You mean to overlay an image on the Desktop Folder in Dolphin? Or get things to turn up as iconson the Desktop ?08:29
vbgunzman. I am using konversation and stumbled on a real subtle bug or something. I am running through my logs and the find next and find previous buttons have sort of swapped meaning :/08:30
FeasibilityStudydaskreech: in 4.3 I could go to my menu and drag and drop an icon into the "folder view" on dsktop08:30
FeasibilityStudynow I cant08:30
daskreechFeasibilityStudy: Menu as in KDE app menu?08:30
FeasibilityStudymenu as in start menu08:31
FeasibilityStudybottom left of screen08:31
daskreechFeasibilityStudy: Huh. Never tried that. But it should create a .desktop file if it does work08:31
vbgunzdaskreech: found it08:31
vbgunzdaskreech: the shadow around the windows can now be modified in 4.4. in other words you can even turn them off. I been waiting for that forever :)08:32
vbgunzdaskreech: systemsettings > window (something like that ;)08:32
vbgunzis their a prerequisite when using nvidia binaries directly from nvidia? am I suppposed to install the modalias packages anyway?08:33
daskreechI'd guess no. You just manage the mods to the kernel yourself08:33
vbgunzdaskreech: yeah, effects performance took a hit in 4.4. I really thought performance was going to be the other way around squeezing more juice out my card08:34
vbgunzheh08:34
vbgunzhmm08:34
daskreechvbgunz: System Settings -> Appearance -> Windows -> Shadows ?08:35
vbgunzdaskreech: not sure, I can look again08:35
vbgunzdaskreech: yup08:35
vbgunzman, I am so glad for that08:35
vbgunzthe shadows were too thick, I really hated them08:36
vbgunzwhat is the kubuntu devel channel?08:36
vbgunzgot it08:36
daskreechvbgunz: :-D08:38
daskreech#kubuntu-devel08:38
vbgunz:)08:39
vbgunzfigure I go in there and ask if somebody want to figure out my window grouping bug08:39
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apacheloggersheytan: please use apt-get dist-upgrade to do that sort of upgrades08:41
apacheloggersheytan: also what happenes when you run ... sudo apt-get install kdegraphics-strigi-plugins08:43
sheytanapachelogger i think there's something wrong with my sources.list. First i'll restore the oryginal one, then will try it :) Give me a minute ;)08:43
rethus i i want to sign a mail with kmail, i got the error: wrong phraraphrase anyone know why? i didn't be asked for a paraphrase108:44
apacheloggersheytan: kk, the blockage of kscreensaver I already uploaded a fix for, just waiting for it to build08:44
apacheloggeractually it is alrady built for i386, just waiting for amd64 :)08:45
sheytanapachelogger It always was so: Some updates were blocked, but after some time, i did refresh and it was all ok.08:45
apacheloggeryeah, because we silently resolved the issues :P08:46
apacheloggerthought I think that they should not have been there to begin with *shrug*08:46
sheytanapachelogger :D08:46
vbgunzim glad plain tabs made it back into the gui08:47
gunsofbrixtonam I the only one getting 4.4 from the repos veeery slowly? :)08:51
Bonst4rguess so08:52
Bonst4rtook about 3mins08:52
gunsofbrixtonBonst4r: uhm interesting... wonder why, oh well, I'll just wait 22 more days till it's done downloading08:52
rethus i i want to sign a mail with kmail, i got the error: wrong phraraphrase anyone know why? i didn't be asked for a paraphrase108:54
sheytanapachelogger I've got the default sources.list only added backports. Now it shows me 91 updates, and 43 blocked08:54
apacheloggersheytan: in apt-get?08:54
sheytanapachelogger  like before :)08:55
apacheloggerso try that install kdegraphics-strigi-plugins command :P08:55
sheytanapachelogger http://pastebin.com/m674c7e4508:57
apacheloggeruhm08:58
apacheloggersheytan: yeah, kipi-plugins is an evil boy08:59
sheytanshould i remove it?08:59
apacheloggerno08:59
apacheloggersheytan: kscreensaver should be unblocked already ... the other 2 can be ignored for now08:59
apacheloggerI'll try to get the kipi mess sorted soonish08:59
apacheloggersheytan: what version of digikam do you have installed08:59
apacheloggerdpkg -s digikam | grep Version09:00
sheytanapachelogger Version: 2:1.1.0-karmic~ppa109:00
apacheloggerkthx09:00
vbgunzneed to test dual screens09:01
harolddongkipi-plugins has been a block update since th rc's. is there a source for a correct version of it and digikam?09:02
sheytanapachelogger So should i wait with upgrading to 4.4 until you fix it? :)09:03
apacheloggernah09:03
apacheloggershould not cause any troubles09:03
apacheloggersheytan: what version of kipi-plugins do you have?09:04
* apachelogger notes that there is no trace of the stated digikam version ... so no idea where that came from09:05
sheytanapachelogger Version: 1.1.0-karmic~ppa109:05
sheytanapachelogger digikam if from someone's ppa. It's not karmic's default09:05
apacheloggerI know, but I did not find that someones ppa :P09:06
apacheloggersheytan: kipi is also 1.1.0?09:06
sheytanapachelogger Can it be digikam makes that problems? I can remove it and checkout ;P And yes, kipi same version as digikam ;)09:06
vbgunzI think I have the new grub for some reason. 1.9.7 beta or similiar. where is the new /boot/grub/menu file located OR what do I edit now for boot time options?09:07
sheytanapachelogger kipi-plugins are from the same ppa as digikam, as i remember09:07
apacheloggersheytan: that is interesting because AFAIK there is no 1.1.0 kipi :P09:07
apacheloggersheytan: which is probably why you have that problem to begin with09:07
vbgunzdamn 4.4 doesn't have a user manager?09:08
sheytanapachelogger Let me remove it, and checkout, ok?09:08
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apacheloggersheytan: just do sudo apt-get install kipi-plugins=1.0.0-1ubuntu1~karmic1+ppa109:08
apacheloggerthat should downgrade to the version from backports mking it 4.4 compatible09:09
Guest10096hey guys... my sound isn't working in firefox at all... any help? it seems to work for system sounds and amarok09:09
apacheloggervbgunz: kuser09:09
vbgunzapachelogger: accessing that interface through systemsettings I think is broken :/09:09
sheytanapachelogger it want me to upgrade some of kde libs and base, and other apps09:09
vbgunzthanks for pointing it out, it seem to run fine from runner09:09
sheytanapachelogger first i'll remove it ;)09:10
apacheloggervbgunz: there aint is no systemsettings integration for kuser09:10
vbgunzapachelogger: wasn't it at system > user management? I still have that interface but get an error now through systemsettings09:11
apacheloggeroh09:11
apacheloggerthat is a different app09:11
apacheloggerthough I shall not talk about it, because I will end up ranting09:12
sheytanapachelogger nothing. I removed kipi and it sill shows me the same blocked and updates09:12
vbgunzapachelogger: ok, got you, thanks :)09:12
vbgunzwhere do I edit the grub menu options? I used to be able to do this at /boot/grub/menu.lst *but* that file doesn't seem to be there anymore :/09:13
apacheloggersheytan: sudo apt-get install gwenview09:13
apacheloggerwhat does that do?09:13
vbgunzgot it09:14
plutonium241helau09:15
sheytanapachelogger http://pastebin.com/m7706acc909:16
apacheloggersheytan: libkipi609:17
sheytanapachelogger what to do with?09:17
apacheloggerremove it09:17
* apachelogger once again wants to mention that all this is caused by installing software from unsupported ppas09:17
sheytanapachelogger it wants to remove almost a whole system :D Let me show  you ;D09:18
sheytanapachelogger http://pastebin.com/m164d456c09:20
apacheloggerwell09:20
sheytanwhen i try to remove libkipi6 in kpackagekit, it shows me that dpenencies are broken09:20
apacheloggerjust leave it alone until some real support person comes along to help you sort that mess09:21
apacheloggersheytan: until then you should be save to upgrade and leave gwenview and digikam as blocked09:21
sheytanapachelogger isn't there a command to skip deps ? :D09:22
sheytanso i can remove libkipi609:22
sheytanapachelogger take a look here https://launchpad.net/~darcio53/+archive/ppa09:26
sheytani think it's taht repo with kipi-plugins and digikam09:26
binarylookssince the upgrade yesterday, my tty1 console is gone. when I switch to it, I only see lots of colors09:32
binarylooksseems to be a graphics problem, but there was no uipdate for that yesterday09:33
binarylooksnobody else has this problem?09:35
binarylookswhen I login through the colors and type "cls" the colors change randmoly so the input still works09:38
* binarylooks remembers that you should not name the Dark One (for the WoT readers in here)09:39
skwara96witam09:49
bohunhello, I've installed today KDE 4.4.0 packages from ppa and can't add Facebook plasma widget on desktop. Does anybody know whether it is connected with Pyhon script engine ?09:49
bohunwitam09:49
skwara96jest ktos z polski?09:50
bohun:D09:50
skwara96:P09:50
skwara96ej09:50
skwara96jak mam kubuntu na pendrive09:50
bohunbut we should talk here in english09:50
skwara96to co mam zrobic, zebym mogl na nim zapisywac pliki09:50
bohunor in PM09:50
skwara96z kubuntu09:50
Torchbinarylooks: you should also not assume that cls does mean anything outside microsoft dos. ;-)09:51
binarylooksTorch: you're right. its "clear" not cls (Very old habits die hard)09:52
Torchbinarylooks: it's ctrl+l (lowercase L)09:53
Torch("clear" works too, of course, but ctrl+l is what you normally use)09:53
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binarylooksI just received new updates again in karmic, and my complete session crashed during dpk. The same happened this morning during updates10:12
alvinI was just going to ask if I updated too soon. Everything looks ok, aside from a few expected bugs, but nothing seems to be wrong with the packaging. Am I right that the packages are all in place and that upgrading is (relatively) safe?10:27
VisheshHi. Any Idea when will KDE 4.4 be released on Kubuntu?10:35
VisheshI really wanna try it out, but I'm not that keen about compiling it myself.10:36
TorchVishesh: see topic10:38
VisheshTorch: Man. I'm an Idiot. Sorry about that.10:38
TorchVishesh: no worries ;-)10:39
GalvatronHi10:42
GalvatronI got a pretty strange issue with my Jaunty10:42
GalvatronWhen I send an application to another workspace/desktop, the window disappears10:43
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GalvatronWhen I call the window back with tray icon, it appears, but the desktop gets black and I can only kill X10:45
GalvatronIt's the same under Compiz and Kwin10:46
koltrollHeya guys. I've just installed kubuntu and the graphics is really strange on me. I've got a ati radeon 4770. I should be able to active special drivers for it, but I don't find where to do it10:53
koltroll*activate10:53
jussi01koltroll: menu -> system -> hardware drivers10:54
koltrolljussi01, do you mean "System Settings" -> "hardware". Cause that's as close as I can get10:55
jussi01koltroll: no, in the menu there is a submenu called "system"10:56
koltrolloh yea dude sorry.10:56
koltrollThe graphics in the menu is really messed up for me, so I didn't see it10:56
jussi01:)10:56
jussi01koltroll: found it now?10:56
koltrollmeh. "No propietary drivers are in use on this system". And I can't choose any other drivers. :(10:57
koltrollWhen I was in the "live"-mode before installing atleast it told me that there was better drivers to choose from10:57
jussi01curious.10:57
Galvatronkoltroll - you must download the drivers from AMD website ;)10:58
jussi01Galvatron: no he shouldnt need to.10:59
jussi01koltroll: which version have you installed?10:59
koltrolljussi01, 9.1010:59
jussi01koltroll: Ive a similar ati card and mine is detected. I wonder what the issue is.11:00
koltrollperhaps I'll try with a .... REBOOT! :)11:01
Tm_Tpackagelists have to be updated after install11:01
koltrollTm_T, how do I do that? By entering the update manager (or whatever it is called) ?11:01
Tm_Tkoltroll: something like that yes11:02
koltrollTm_T, I'm gonna try that. thank you11:02
jussi01ahh, that makes sense, forgot about that11:03
Martijn81hi, when does kde 4.4 for kubuntu comes out?11:04
Vroomfondlewhen Lucid is released.11:04
Vroomfondlethough I think there is a PPA repo if you're desperate11:04
Tm_TMartijn81: Vroomfondle: see topic (:11:04
Tm_Tand kubuntu.org11:04
Martijn81yeah, i have that source in my repo file, but it does not download it yet11:04
Vroomfondleyeah, that's the one.11:04
koltrollcan I start the update manager from terminal? Cause I can't see what the options in the menu are cause of the graphics11:04
Tm_Tkoltroll: you can just do "sudo apt-get update" in commanline11:06
koltrollcheers11:06
koltrolljockey keeps crashing on me11:07
koltrolland I'm getting the impression jockey is somewhat important11:07
Martijn81Tm_T: well, in the Netherlands there is no upgrade yet11:09
Martijn81how fast would this be realised11:10
koltrollthe program windows looks like they should, it's the panel and the widgets on the desktop that got totally fakked up graphics11:12
Tm_TMartijn81: see what http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4 says, you have to have/add PPA repository11:12
Martijn81oops, hehe11:12
Martijn81that did the trick \o/11:14
Tm_Tgood11:14
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Martijn81:)11:15
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ahoxHi I have problems with the mysql-akonadi from kde4.4, the errormsg is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/373884/ .11:40
ahoxI already had a look at http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Table_.27mysql._servers.27_doesn.27t_exist11:40
ahoxany ideas?11:40
koltrollfucking shit the graphics is still totally messed up :(11:45
koltrollhm ok. Now I atleast have the ati/amd-driver in "Hardware Drivers"11:46
koltrollbut nothing happens when I click "activate"11:47
sheytanapachelogger have a minute?11:53
apacheloggersheytan: depends11:54
sheytanapachelogger one question: im on a fresh installed kubuntu. Added the backports repo, and i still got blocked updates. But only in kpackagekit. when i do dist-upgrade, it's ok11:54
sheytanCan i do dist-upgrade?11:55
apacheloggeryou should indeed11:55
apacheloggerkpackagekit is not usable for that kind of complicate updates11:55
sheytanapachelogger ok, thank you :)11:55
noaXesshow does knetwork manager knows about my huawei e220? ttyUSB0? where can i set that so knetwork manager knows it?11:57
binarylooksare the current lucid kubuntu builds installable? Does ubiquity work again?12:10
Martijn81how do i start using webkit instead of khtml in konqueror?12:29
binarylooksis rekonq 0.4 already somewhere in a ppa?12:36
koltrollwhat would be the "best" way of adding a dock to kubuntu? For gnome I've used gnome-do and cairo-dock12:36
EruaranHello can someone please help12:37
EruaranI have tried to update to KDE SC 4.412:37
EruaranWhen I try to log in normally I don't get a KDM login or anything... I just get nasty flashing artifacts12:37
EruaranBut... If I go into recovery mode I can login to KDE as root... and things seem to work normal... if I try to log in under my username Plasma crashes every time... Can I clear something in my .kde so it works ??12:39
EruaranI am desperate to get things working normally again12:40
iconmefistoEruaran: you could try ~/.kde/share/config/plasmarc12:42
iconmefistoEruaran: or other files plasma* in that folder12:42
Eruaraniconmefisto: plasmarc?12:43
Eruaraniconmefisto: There doesn't seem to be a plasmarc folder...12:44
iconmefistoplasmarc is a file12:44
Eruaraniconmefisto: yes sorry, misunderstood12:44
Eruaraniconmefisto: just remove it to get defaults?12:45
iconmefistoEruaran: yes, or rename it if you want to keep a backup of it12:45
Eruaraniconmefisto: ok12:45
EruaranWhat about KDM?12:48
EruaranI had a themed login before... if that's screwing things up I'd like to get rid of it12:49
Eruaranwell... I'm gonna see if this works12:53
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Eruaranyay I can log in as me now...12:58
Eruaran:'(12:58
EruaranPlasma is not crashing12:58
reagleBRKLNi just upgrade to 4.4 but get: strigi-daemon: Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (= 0.7.0-1) but 0.7.1-1~karmic1~ppa2 is to be installed13:06
reagleBRKLNany help?13:06
reagleBRKLNah, dang it.... konq still takes up to 100% cpu and jams13:07
reagleBRKLNon some pages13:07
Eruaranstill can't login normally13:10
EruaranIf I start in recovery mode, drop to a root prompt and login as myself, KDE starts normally13:11
EruaranBut normal boot and all I get it nasty artifacts13:11
EruaranNo KDM or KDE13:12
RaGNORAKhi13:12
Eruaranhi13:12
RaGNORAKi can't seem to install vlc properly13:12
RaGNORAKi cant install the arts audio plugin13:13
RaGNORAKit keeps giving me an error13:13
RaGNORAKso i get no audio :(13:13
RaGNORAKcan someone help?13:13
KyrilEruaran: Same problem here. With Strg+Alt+F1 & Strg+Alt+F7 I can login, but I have to do it everytime after a restart.13:14
RaGNORAKor can you tell me how to use .deb files13:14
EruaranRaGNORAK: Why not just get VLC from the repositories?13:15
iconmefistoRaGNORAK: double-click .deb files and you should get a gui13:15
EruaranKyril: yes... All I know so far is that X must be ok, KDE is ok, graphics drivers are ok... but normal boot is nasty13:16
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RaGNORAKEruaran:  i tried13:16
RaGNORAKbut i cant get the arts plugin to install13:17
RaGNORAKit keeps giving me an error13:17
RaGNORAKnamely : a package dependency cannot be found13:17
EruaranVLC uses arts?13:18
EruaranDoes VLC start?13:18
RaGNORAKyes13:18
RaGNORAKbut i t doesn't play audio13:19
iconmefistoRaGNORAK: I don't think kde uses arts any more13:19
RaGNORAKummm then why doesn't dudio work?13:19
RaGNORAKaudio*13:19
EruaranRaGNORAK: Oh wait13:19
EruaranRaGNORAK: I think I had that problem... if you try to use YouTube do you get any audio?13:19
RaGNORAKdidn't try till now13:20
RaGNORAKwait13:20
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AlexZionhi everyone , I saw right now the uograde available of KDE 4.4 for karmic, but KPackageKit said  122 update available and 86 locked update ....., why ?13:20
EruaranAlexZion: I dunno... but my system was partially borked afterwards when I bypassed KPackageKit13:21
AlexZionI mean , if I upgrade now , can be danferous for my system , or I should update by konsole using sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?13:21
RaGNORAKEruaran:  it doesnt play either13:22
EruaranAlexZion: a couple of us are not having a smooth upgrade...13:22
EruaranRaGNORAK: ok... It might be your alsa settings13:22
AlexZionEruaran: ok , so probably is better if I wait a bit more ....13:23
khaije|selenWhich meta-package adds kubuntu-desktop from a server install?13:23
RaGNORAKso should i install a alsa player?13:23
EruaranAlexZion: yes, unless u want to join us in "err what is going on here" land... :p13:23
EruaranRaGNORAK: no, alsa is installed13:24
RaGNORAKsorry i just installed linux yesterday for the first time so am a total noob13:24
petsoundsAlexZion, try dist-upgrade13:24
EruaranRaGNORAK: its an issue specific to ubuntu/kubuntu but easy to fix13:24
RaGNORAKcan you explain to me how13:24
RaGNORAKplease?13:24
Eruaranyes13:24
AlexZionpetsounds: I tried it , but it's even worst ...., it will update just few package in this way ...13:25
EruaranRaGNORAK: just a sec13:26
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AlexZionpetsounds: just 17 packages update and 191 not update ....13:26
jussi01AlexZion: try closing pacakgekit and running in terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:28
gilles_i prefer konversation13:29
AlexZionjussi01: I did , but the result is the same, 17 package to update and 191 not update ...13:29
jussi01AlexZion: could you copy the output of that into a pastebin so I can see please?13:30
jussi01!paste13:30
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:30
AlexZionjussi01: sure , wait a seconds ....13:30
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AlexZionjussi01: the output is in Italian , but shouldn't be difficult to understand ..... http://paste.ubuntu.com/373948/13:32
jussi01AlexZion: please try the command I gave you13:33
jussi01with dist-upgrade13:33
gilles_i'm having troubles with nepomuk and kde 4.4.013:33
EruaranRaGNORAK: open up a terminal (like konsole) and type "sudo alsamixer"13:33
gilles_it was working fine with beta13:33
AlexZionjussi01: sorry , I was sure it was dist-upgrade .....13:33
RaGNORAKdone13:33
gilles_how to reset nepomuk ?13:33
RaGNORAKcan i pm you?13:34
jussi01gilles_: I am also having issues. not really sure on how to fix it yet13:34
reagleBRKLNi just upgrade to 4.4 but get: strigi-daemon: Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (= 0.7.0-1) but 0.7.1-1~karmic1~ppa2 is to be installed13:34
EruaranRaGNORAK: you can use the arrow keys on your keyboard to change the volume settings for each section - just make sure none are muted13:34
AlexZionjussi01: ok , now is different 206 update 53 new, 8 removed and 2 not update13:34
EruaranRaGNORAK: kmix will work as well I think (kickoff>applications>multimedia)13:35
jussi01AlexZion: :)13:35
callcenter13:35
AlexZionjussi01: do you want the pastebin as well ?13:35
jussi01AlexZion: no, thats about correct13:35
AlexZionor I can do the upgrade ?13:35
PascalFRHey13:35
jussi01AlexZion: that upgrade should take you to 4.4. :)13:35
reagleBRKLNanyone running 4.4, which version of strigi-daemon do you have installed?13:35
RaGNORAKEruaran:  ya nothing is muted13:36
jussi01AlexZion: just realise this 4.4 is not officially supported13:36
PascalFRcan someone from canonical or kubuntu  explains or points me to new rules regarding bug reporting on kubuntu ?13:36
jussi01PascalFR: thats more a question for #kubuntu-bugs13:36
EruaranRaGNORAK: basically something is muted or volume is down where it shouldn't be... make sure master volume is up and PCM is up as well... you should find that you have audio in VLC and flash sites like YouTube after that13:37
AlexZionjussi01: ok , and it will be in the future for karmic ?13:37
EruaranRaGNORAK: just crank everything up ;p13:37
jussi01AlexZion: unlikely, however 4.4 will be default for Lucid13:37
jussi01AlexZion: the PPA is an "at your own risk" item13:37
PascalFRjussi01:  ok  trying13:37
AlexZionyes I know that , but I was unpatient to try the great new features of KDE 4.4 , so I can't wait until April ... :)13:38
jussi01AlexZion: yeah, Id just say dont do it on a machine that is essential for production ;)13:38
PascalFRit seems all bug reports about kubuntu is flagged invalid and must be reported to kdebugs instead13:40
EruaranAlexZion: I have updated but can't log in normally at the moment... I get nasty flashing graphical artifacts... most disconcerting... But I have found that if I use recovery mode and then login as myself I can startx and KDE starts normally (after I removed my previous plasma settings)... so, its a bit 'bleeding edge' at the moment13:40
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AlexZionjussi01: I'll try to wait for the new release , but I'm pretty sure I'll not resist so much .. :D13:40
RaGNORAKEruaran:  thank you13:40
RaGNORAKit works now13:40
EruaranRaGNORAK: yay :D13:40
AlexZionEruaran: yeah , I think it's quite normal, probably renaming the .kde folder , it qill start much better I guess ....13:41
EruaranAlexZion: would that effect KDM?13:42
AlexZionyeah probably you will lose all the settings about kde , but it's quite normal when change are so important...13:42
EruaranAlexZion: The reason I ask is that I'm thinking its a settings issue... If I can reset KDM with basic defaults it might start working normally13:43
AlexZionin this version if I don't mistake , they change a lot of thing .....13:43
shanklyhi all, i've updated to kde 4.4, but now, when I start my pc, after usplash I see a dark,with some colored dotts, screen13:43
shanklyif I use ctrl f813:43
shanklyand then ctrl f713:43
AlexZionyea, I think so , so try to rename the .kde folder in your home , and you will see ....13:43
EruaranAlexZion: I don't mind losing those settings... thats mostly personalized stuff and easy to change13:43
shanklykdm appear13:43
shanklyi've tryed gdm instead of kdm, and i've no trouble13:44
gilles_jussi01: i found this answer to my nepomuk problems13:44
Eruaranshankly: yeah a few of us getting the same thing13:44
gilles_jussi01: http://socceroosd.blogspot.com/2010/02/kubuntu-karmic-kde-44-and-nepomuk.html13:44
shanklyEruaran: it's a kdm issue, isn't it?13:44
AlexZionEruaran: so try it , and if you get the same problem , just remove the new .kde folder and rename back the oldone13:44
Eruaranshankly & AlexZion I will try it now13:45
shanklyi've deleted .kde, with no good news13:45
Eruaranoh ok13:45
Eruarandidn't work?13:45
shanklyno13:46
AlexZionok , let us know what happens ...13:46
markus___shankly: i had a similar issue with kdm. since i  changed from fglrx to radeonhd kdm has been working13:46
EruaranOk maybe I wont try that then13:46
markus___i had no screen at all13:46
shanklymarkus___: what I've done is13:46
shanklyctrl f813:46
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shanklyand then ctrl f713:46
markus___only some funny colored dots13:46
shanklyand I've kdm13:46
AlexZionok , let me try what happen on a virtualized Kubuntu machine ....13:47
Eruaranok13:47
markus___shankly: do you mean ctral+alt+f8 ?13:48
shanklymarkus___: sorry, yes13:49
shanklymarkus___: ctrl+alt+f8 and then ctrl+alt+f713:49
EruaranI will do that until I know how to fix13:51
Eruaransigh... at least its not life threatening13:51
shanklyEruaran: if you use gdm there's no trouble13:51
shanklyEruaran: til kdm works13:51
Eruaranshankly: cant be stuffed installing gdm ;p13:51
EruaranBut if I get sufficiently annoyed I might get motivated13:52
shankly:D13:52
Eruaran:p13:52
shanklythere's a ppa with OO 3.2?13:55
markus___shankly: yes, it was the same for me. kdm showed up for approx. 10secs. then the screen blanked. i was able to input my password blindly. after some time and some crtl+alt+f1/f7 i was able to see the desktop.13:55
Eruaranoh great now I have no audio...13:56
EruaranI had audio before...13:56
markus___shankly: but after some time the screen blanked again. i thought fglrx was outdated and built myself ubuntu packages from the ati 10.1 driver.13:57
shanklymarkus___: I insert the password after ctrl+alt......13:57
markus___shankly: after reboot i was not able to see any screen.13:57
shanklymarkus___: mine works the same every time I reboot13:58
markus___shankly: this was annoying and i changed the driver from fglrx to radeonhd via remote shell13:58
markus___shankly: no compositing, but full kdm13:58
markus___shankly: but do you have to blindly enter your pw?13:59
shanklymarkus___: no, after ctrl+alt+f8 and ctrl+alt+f7 I see the kdm login screen14:00
shanklymarkus___: and I insert the password14:00
AlexZionEruaran: ok , I leave my VM doing the upgrade , now I have to go for couple of hours , if you will be here , I'll let you know how it goes ...14:02
Eruaranhmm my audio is back14:05
koltrollso I can configure kde with active corners for dashboard, active windows and some other things. But I can't make it show the desktop? I realize this is kinda the same thing as showing the dashboard, but the dashboard get's all dark and ugly. I just want all the windows to be minimizer, as if I click the "show desktop"-button in the panel14:05
shanklyguys, no one knows if there's a ppa for openoffice 3.2?14:06
bobbob1016I added the backports ppa and I can't install kubuntu-desktop because it says I have unmet dependencies, any ideas?14:08
shanklybobbob1016: what says apt-get dist-upgrade?14:09
bobbob1016shankly, won't that give me lucid?  I don't want lucid, I want 4.4 on karmic14:10
shanklythat don't give you lucid if you don't have lucid repo in source.list14:12
bobbob1016shankly, I don't have kde yet, I wanted to install kde 4.4 alongside gnome14:13
shanklybobbob1016: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:13
jbeehey guys. how can i set the default app for http:// in kde 3?14:14
bobbob1016shankly, That gives me the "unmet dependencies"14:14
shanklybobbob1016: what dependencies?14:14
bobbob1016http://pastebin.com/m42efaee014:15
EagleScreenbobbob1016: what are you doing?14:16
bobbob1016shankly, I figured it out, I had some KDE stuff, so dist-upgrade, then "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" seems to have done it14:16
shanklybobbob1016: ok14:17
EagleScreenbobbob1016: always paste the command that generated the output14:17
RaGNORAKi am having a problem with ktorrent14:19
RaGNORAKi use dual boot with windows14:19
RaGNORAKand i added my old torrent files so that i can seed them but they do not reload after i restart kubuntu14:20
RaGNORAKhow do i get them to stay?14:20
gigasofthow to clear kmail's cashes, to reload all mails14:21
shanklyRaGNORAK: have you copied files into your ktorrent folder or have you mounted windows partition and inserted them in shared files?14:23
RaGNORAKumm you mean the .torrent files?14:24
RaGNORAKthey are in the windows partition14:24
RaGNORAKshould i copy them to a folder in /home?14:25
shanklyRaGNORAK: and you've setted to mount automatically windows partition at kubuntu start?14:25
RaGNORAKhow do i do that?14:25
shanklyRaGNORAK: you've to modify fstab14:26
RaGNORAKhmmm i dont know how that works but i'll google14:27
EruaranI like ktorrent14:27
shanklyRaGNORAK: it's not too hard, you'll find how to do that ;)14:27
RaGNORAKty14:28
RaGNORAKthank god for google :)14:28
shanklyRaGNORAK: :)14:28
RaGNORAKgot it14:30
RaGNORAKntfs config14:30
RaGNORAKnow to see if it works14:30
ilumiwhat app can read image tags that have the gps info etc14:47
EruaranIs it just me or is there suddenly no way to change Plasma themes in KDE SC 4.4 ?14:50
satepchttp://images.4chan.org/g/src/1265892675214.jpg14:52
shanklyEruaran: is in systemsettings->appearance->workspace14:53
Eruaranoh i c thanks shankly14:53
shanklyEruaran: ;)14:54
aLeSDbyeç14:55
reagleBRKLNcan anyone tell me how nepomuk/strigi are supposed to work with 4.4 ppa debs? strigi-utils: Depends: libstreamanalyzer0 (= 0.7.0-1) but 0.7.1-1~karmic1~ppa2 is to be installed15:00
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binnygMorning. I have KUbuntu and my screen hangs every couple of hours. I can still loginto the machine using ssh. Looks like a graphic card error. How do I troubleshoot it? any help is appreciated15:26
pacheI want to install openoffice 3.2 from lucid but i want to stay karmic. How I configure apt?15:26
binnygI was asked to show /var/log/Xorg* files but I got disconnected15:26
binnygI can share the files now15:26
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Martijn81binnyg: you may have a chance with apt pinning15:31
Martijn81oops15:32
Martijn81pache:15:32
BluesKajhowdy15:32
binnyghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto15:33
binnyg??15:33
chfwiggumhi all15:33
pachethank you15:34
chfwiggumi upgraded my karmic to kde 4.4 . when i try to mark an email as spam in kmail my whole system locks and i have to reboot the kernel. also, when booting i see like a test pattern on my x. the consoles are all yellow meaning i can't use them. when i switch back to x i see the kdm screen as usual. the consoles stay yellow and unusable. has someone any idea what might be the problem or could give me a hint where to start searchin15:40
bobbob1016So I got 4.4 installed, and it's working fine, except my panel window list thing isn't working right.  I have 2 konqueror windows up, and if I click to select one I don't get the list.  I also have two different programs over each other in the list as well, any ideas?15:40
binnygMartijn81: this is my graphic device 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device15:42
Martijn81sorry binnyg, i think i cannot help15:44
binnygok I will look in the forums. thanks15:44
geniiHm, too bad ilumi left, I had an answer to his GPS tagging question15:45
sixofour|fpso, how would I install kubuntu on a netbook with no cdrom or flash drive?15:45
chfwiggumusb stick15:45
Vroomfondlea usb stick *is* a flash drive15:46
Martijn81pache: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/experimental.html and change the line in sources.list to the source you want15:46
geniiwerfact: gpscorrelate-gui  is what you wanted15:46
sixofour|fpi was thinking i could do it over my homenetwork15:46
Vroomfondlesixofour|fp: you might be able to do it by netbooting (I've never done that with kubuntu though) - try googling15:46
sixofour|fpor with a usb cable15:46
petsoundsgenii, thanks for helping me in #ubuntu+115:47
geniipetsounds: You're welcome15:48
oxymoronDoes anyone know package name for gnome-sound-recorder?15:52
chfwiggumwhat might be the problem for me not being able to switch into consoles with alt+F2? they appear all yellow and i can't see if i'm typing. possible that the kde4.4 upgrade messed with my x server?15:52
Koliachfwiggum: out of curiosity, was there a kernel update too when you upgraded kde?15:56
chfwiggumKolia: i'm still running 3.6.31-19 like i did before15:58
chfwiggum*2.6 of course16:00
Anubishi guys16:12
marcus_Lo there.16:13
Anubisi have this error when i try to update the kernel: Failed to fetch ....Could not connect to localhost:8118 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111: Connection refused)16:14
Anubiswhat can i do to solve this problem16:14
marcus_What are you using to update?16:14
Anubisadept16:15
marcus_Hmm. Have you tried KPackageKit, or apt-get?16:15
Anubisfirst i tried KPackageKit16:16
markus___chfwiggum: i had this problem too. yellow screens and on f7 blank screen after upgrade from rc2 to 4.4. maybe this is an issue with fglrx and 4.4. i changed to radeonhd and then kdm worked again as well as the consoles.16:16
marcus_Anubis: did it return the same error?16:17
Anubisthen i tried apt-get and this is messge: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.16:17
marcus_All right.16:17
marcus_Hmm...16:17
marcus_Go into aptitude and check if there's a red bar at the bottom.16:18
Anubismarcus: i think this problem occured because of privoxy/polipo/tor/tork16:18
iconmefistoI did  apt-get purge kdm  then reinstalled kdm, and I could log in ok16:18
marcus_Anubis: Aah, sorry. I don't know anything much about tor.16:18
marcus_Anubis: Is everything else working? Is all the traffic going through Tor?#16:19
Anubisi uninstalled everything and deleted manually the files related to privoxy/tor. etc16:20
Anubiseverything else is working16:21
marcus_Anubis: Aah. Have you checked your KDE proxy set-up? If it's not now directly connecting to the internet and is trying to go through a proxy, it might cause problems.16:22
sheytanWhat packages I need to install to get akonadi?16:22
marcus_sheytan: have you tried searching for it in KPackageKit?16:24
inclementI just installed kde4.4 from the backports repository. It seems to work fine, except that when I boot X just gives me a cursor on a black screen (and the wrong resolution, I think). ctrl+shift+f7 does nothing, but switching to ctrl+shift+f2 then ctrl+shift+f7 resets it to give me the kdm screen16:25
inclementAny ideas what's wrong, and how to make the graphics initalise properly the first time?16:25
sheytanmarcus yes, but there's some packages and i don't know what should i install :P16:25
Anubismarcus: i checked and is set to connect ....16:26
benoitginclement: I have the same problem16:31
chfwiggumhow do i reinstall all kde packages?16:36
zibihello guys16:38
zibiI have installed a kubuntu 9.10 and update it16:39
zibii wonna to install kde 4.416:39
Vroomfondlezibi: see the channel topic16:39
Vroomfondle(the bit about KDE SC 4.4 in the Kubuntu Backports)16:39
sverro2is it stable? Kubuntu 9.10 with kde 4.4?16:40
zibiso I add the backports kde repo and when I'm try to update Kpackageit tell me that the pacakges as blocked16:40
zibiwhat are you finking about16:41
sverro2no16:41
sverro2:)16:41
chfwiggumis kdebase the one that pulls in all the other packages as dependencies?16:43
sverro2chfwiggum, I don't know, but I had the same issue with kpackagekit. When I installed synaptic I could install the blocked updates. Not a very good way to fix it, but I uninstalled synaptic when I was done...16:51
rmrfslashshot in the dark but, does anyone know of a manpage creator? That is somehting I can use to whip up a man page instead of writing it in vim and memorizing all the tags16:52
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olskolirchow do I bring up that default note that comes with the original install.  It comes on the desktop and it has the nicer settings17:08
timhi, after todays updates to the kubuntu-ppa/backports ppa, logging into kde will show me a black screen ... any idea, what could could be the reason for this or how i can solve it?17:09
binarylookstim: ALt+F2 and type plasma-desktop17:10
timbinarylooks, i'll give it a try ... if it won't work, i will be back in a minute ... if not, thanks in advance17:11
binarylookstim: np17:11
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dmattKubuntu 9.10 + KDE 4.4 insata17:18
dmattKubuntu 9.10 + KDE 4.4 installed today and after reboot, just before login all goes black, screen resolution changes to some low setting and only visible thing is huge white mouse pointer. Anybody has similar problem?17:20
darthanubisnope17:20
darthanubismaybe try moving your .kde folder17:21
darthanubisback up the old one17:21
darthanubismove it, and re-login17:21
dmattbooting in recovery and manually starting KDM does not exhibit this problem17:21
iconmefisto_dmatt: in recovery mode root console, I did  apt-get purge kdm  then reinstalled kdm, and I could log in normally17:24
dmatticonmefisto_:  thnx, I try it17:26
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inclementiconmefisto_: I have the same problem, though it can be bypassed by switching to a TTY and back (which makes kdm work properly). I'll try your fix, thanks!17:34
frodolegginsguys, kdm of kde4.4 is buggy17:37
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frodolegginsisn't it? can't open tty, but using instead xdm all works17:37
frodolegginsis there a solution?17:38
inclementWell, that didn't work :(. At least the TTY workaround works for now17:42
racecar56kubuntu 9.10 refuses to boot, when i boot into recovery mode it says something about udevtrigger returning status 117:43
sverro2Is it normal common error that I get a black screen when starting the Live CD of kubuntu 10.04 alpha 2 in Virtual Box?17:43
racecar56sverro2: on a real PC, i know if i try a disk integrity check, it either gets stuck on an ubuntu loading screen, or a blank screen17:45
racecar56why is udevtrigger returning status 1?17:45
harolddongdid the updated 4.4 packages work for anybody? I'm still getting garbled login window17:45
racecar56i was able to boot on this live usb stick so my hardware is OK17:46
vaierhi am a gprs kubuntu user17:46
racecar56harolddong: i think they worked for me but i might have kde 4.3 i don't know17:46
racecar56harolddong: if that's what you're talking about17:46
opensuseharolddong : same here17:46
racecar56harolddong: if they were recent (yesterday) then i didn't get them installed17:47
vaiercan you tell me, how big updates for kubuntu, am install it from CD 9.017:47
vaier*9.1017:47
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racecar56vaier: asking how many updates there are when you update kubuntu 9.10? ~15017:48
lucypher /msg NickServ identify metgorna_252517:48
vaieromg, @racecer65 thanks17:48
racecar56should I reinstall kubuntu, due to my "udevtrigger returned status 1" error?17:49
racecar56i guess that's all i can do :[17:51
racecar56not going to be too fun having to reinstall...when i just recently reinstalled17:51
vaierracecar56, you should ask google17:52
racecar56vaier: "No results found for "udevtrigger returned status 1". Results without quotes." :[17:53
edonhi, i upgraded kde to kde 4.4sc from kubuntu-ppa, now plasma segfaults immediatly, is there any solution?17:53
racecar56vaier: maybe i should cause the error again and see if it's in a different format than what i thought it was?17:54
vaierhttps://launchpad.net/bugs/20461217:54
vaierone second17:54
binarylooksracecar56: maybe you hit this bug: http://q-funk.blogspot.com/2010/02/ubuntulucid-recovering-from-yesterdays.html17:54
AlexZionedon: I have tried to upgrade on a Virtualized machine, and except for the main panel , everything works fine ....17:55
racecar56binarylooks: i know i experienced some stupid update where update-grub ran, and it hanged, and i kill -9-ed it17:55
racecar56binarylooks: and i tried dpkg --configure -a and it caused the error again -_-17:55
AlexZionedon: have you tried renaming .kde folder on your home ?17:55
binarylooksracecar56: try sudo dpkg --configure -a17:55
racecar56binarylooks: i'll chroot into it as i'm on a live usb stick now17:56
* racecar56 likes chroot17:56
binarylooksracecar56: chrooting will not help17:56
lucypheredon : same here... I've found that removing ~/.kde folder should help,  I'm trying it now. see you aftre reboot17:56
binarylooksracecar56: you have to patch the trigger file or change the small mistake yourself (provided you ran into this bug)17:56
racecar56binarylooks: oh17:56
harolddonghow is facebook xmpp working for everyone in kopete?  cause for me its not17:57
binarylooksit's a small typo in a file, changing it is easy or you follow the blog post i gave you the link above17:57
racecar56binarylooks: i have to modify the file over this usb stick, is that OK?17:57
racecar56binarylooks: because my system will not boot at all17:58
racecar56binarylooks: but this usb stick does17:58
vaierracecar56: http://www.google.ru/search?hl=ru&source=hp&q=udevtrigger+returned+status+1&btnG=Поиск+в+Google&lr=&aq=&oq=17:58
binarylooksracecar56: oops, doesn't boot art all? maybe chrooting IS an option17:58
racecar56binarylooks: k17:59
binarylooksracecar56: the error that you had with dpkg -i should have been more explcit.17:59
binarylooksracecar56: I'm still not sure you had the udev trigger typo bug18:00
racecar56binarylooks: all i know is my system refuses to boot due to udevtrigger returning status 118:00
binarylooksracecar56: it can return status 1 for many reasons18:00
racecar56binarylooks: it hangs after fussing about my USB devices (it always says things like read error -62 but they work fine18:00
binarylooksracecar56: maybe check the link vaier gave you18:01
binarylooksracecar56: otherwise chroot and dpk -i again and see if you didn't miss a more explicit error message18:01
racecar56binarylooks: i'm dpkg --configure -a ing now18:02
racecar56binarylooks: just to see what happens18:02
binarylooksracecar56: ok18:02
racecar56binarylooks: grep: /proc/modules: No such file or directory cpio: ./lib/udev/firmware: Cannot stat: No such file or directory18:02
racecar56binarylooks: makes sense18:02
racecar56binarylooks: i didn't bind /proc and stuff18:02
binarylooksracecar56: thats exactly the bug I thought it was18:03
racecar56binarylooks: mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc? (/mnt is where my root is mounted)18:03
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binarylooksit seraches for a firmware.sh while it should search for a firmware (without .sh)18:03
binarylookscheck the blogpost i gave you and do what he says18:03
racecar56binarylooks: i did that.18:04
racecar56several grep: /proc/modules: No such file or directory errors18:04
binarylooksracecar56: for me patching didn't work, becasue the "patch" command didn't work on my system18:04
racecar56binarylooks: cpio: ./lib/udev/firmware: Cannot stat: No such file or directory18:04
chfwiggumhey18:05
racecar56binarylooks: looks like patch didn't do anything?18:05
racecar56chfwiggum: hi18:05
binarylooksracecar56: just type patch18:05
racecar56binarylooks: k18:05
binarylooksracecar56: to see wheteher u have the program18:05
racecar56binarylooks: it just sits there and doesn't come back to the prompt18:05
racecar56binarylooks: sounds like it is there18:05
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binarylooksracecar56: damn it.18:06
racecar56binarylooks: root@ubuntu:/# which patch18:06
racecar56/usr/bin/patch18:06
racecar56binarylooks: it found patch18:06
binarylooksracecar56: lets do it manually, give me a sec...18:06
binarylooksracecar56: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39011493/udev-firmware.patch18:06
racecar56binarylooks: k18:07
racecar56binarylooks: it's in the root of the system (inside the chroot)18:07
binarylooksryanakca: nano /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/udev18:07
chfwiggumyou have other people reporting problems after upgrading to 4.4? when booting into kde i see like a test pattern and my consoles are unusable. they are all yellow, text can't be seen. i have this on *TWO* machines, one upgraded, the other was a fresh install18:08
binarylooksryanakca: u have that file?18:08
binarylooksracecar56: ^18:09
binarylooks(sorry ryanakca)18:09
racecar56binarylooks: k18:09
dmattKubuntu 9.10 + KDE 4.4 installed today and after reboot, just before login all goes black, screen resolution changes to some low setting and only visible thing is huge white mouse pointer. Tried renaming .kde, reinstall kdm kubuntu-desktop and xorg-fglrx18:09
binarylooksryanakca: search for this line : copy_exec /lib/udev/firmware.sh /lib/udev18:09
binarylooksryanakca: and remove the .sh18:10
racecar56binarylooks: it's already removed, oddly enough18:10
chfwiggumdmatt: can you switch into consoles with ctrl+alt+F1?18:10
dmattswitching to ttys makes color pattern, but it is not possible to write18:10
chfwiggumdmatt: exactly the same here18:10
harolddongdmatt, its happened to a lot of people. they messed something up18:10
racecar56binarylooks: the .sh is not there18:10
dmatthowever I can boot through recovery console and manualy starting kdm18:11
vbgunzwow. I upgraded to KDE 4.4 yesterday. very buggy. Today I update and have 52 upgrades. maybe 4.4 wasn't complete yesterday?18:11
chfwiggumharolddong: it's not that easy. i had this on two installs18:11
binarylooksracecar56: ok, i'm lost. sorry18:11
vbgunzmy tty 1-6 are all botched too18:11
binarylooksracecar56: try asking in ubuntu18:11
racecar56binarylooks: k18:11
harolddongthere were updated packages today mainly related to kdm that installed hoping it would fix the issue. It didnt and now the oxygen icons are screwed up18:12
inclementIs it possible to set a hotkey to switch tabs in the new kwin tabbing system? If it is I will keep looking, but it isn't clear if it's even possible18:12
dmattsometimes i can see login dialog for half a second and than everything turns black18:12
inclementdmatt: Have you tried pressing ctrl+alt+f1 then ctrl+alt+f7 ?18:13
inclementdmatt: Also as a workaround, I think a differnet login manager (like gdm) will work - you'd just lose the ability to shutdown straight from your desktop18:13
inclementI do now know what the fix is though :(18:14
dmattonly ALT+SYSRQ+B works after switch18:14
racecar56binarylooks: i messed around (put .sh back on, bound /proc to /mnt/proc and /dev to /mnt/dev, and dpkg --configure -a ed, and it was more successful)18:14
harolddongthis is bizarre apparently there was some major problem causing change between the rc's and the final, which I didnt think was supposed to happen.  the betas and rc'sran fine for me18:14
vbgunzanybody else window grouping botched?18:14
racecar56binarylooks: all i have that are errors "Cannot find list of partitions!"18:14
dmattis there a bug filed for it?18:14
harolddongit might be time to pull an intervention on the ubuntu kde team, guys, because someone has obviously been drinking18:16
dmattinclement: how do I setup my nb to use different login manager?18:16
sheytanWhat should I install to get akonadi on KDE 4.4 in karmic?18:17
inclementdmatt: Do you have one already installed? If not, installing one (apt-get install gdm or whatever) will automatically let you configure it to be used18:17
inclementIf not, there is a command to do it that I forget18:17
racecar56binarylooks: i'm going to reboot and see what happens18:17
inclementI don't know for sure that it'll work, btw, but it seemed to for me18:17
binarylooksracecar56: i'm off for dinner will be back later18:18
dmattI rebooted about 20 times in last 30 minutes18:18
vbgunzI applaud the Kubuntu team for trying. really. my KDE 4.4 upgrade although through the ppa backports feels a little rushed and alpha at some points.18:18
inclementI don't know for sure that it'll work, btw, but it seemed to for me18:19
racecar56IT WORKED18:19
racecar56:D18:19
dmattI suspect there was something else updated in the process concerning either xorg or fglrx18:19
racecar56by *adding* .sh to firmware, it fixed everything18:19
koltrollI installed gnome-do and choose to have it as a dock. Then after a restart I can't make it a dock, it's telling me "Your display is not properly configured for theme and animation support. To use these features, you must enable compositing".18:20
koltrollI'm kinda lost since it worked fine before the reboot. Also I thought KDE had some own special special thing instead of Compiz ?18:20
anoneemousehi. Just installed kde 4.4 from backports and now plasma is crashing on startup with error: Error message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : " "The name org.kde.plasma-desktop was not provided by any .service files" "18:21
koltrollAnd if I go ahead and install/activate compiz then I'm afraid that's gonna interfer with kd's thingy18:21
anoneemouseis there a way i can force a retry through apt-get?18:21
Biosftwhey starting kopete is crashing the plasma desktop? (kde 4.4)18:22
chfwiggumBiosftw: yeah, among others it also crashes when i use kmail18:24
anoneemousewith me it crashes when it starts :/18:24
anoneemouseplasma that is18:24
chfwiggummy whole machine stalls18:24
anoneemousethe woes of being an early adopter18:25
chfwiggumyeah, but it's so nice18:25
anoneemousewhen everything works it is18:25
harolddongnepomuk/strigi still don't totally work either, so that'ssomething else18:26
chfwiggumthat, too18:26
harolddongthe move to virtuoso has been sort of wrecked nepomuk18:26
harolddongsesame was slow but at least it worked as advertised18:27
anoneemouseim not so worried about those... everything is basically broken for me18:27
Biosftwso there is no fix or workaround yet? chfwiggum : D18:27
chfwiggumBiosftw: i'm still waiting on further instructions :(18:28
gorgonizerBiosftw: are you using the kopete facebook plugin?18:28
Biosftwyeah i just found a bug report about this plugin18:29
Biosftwjust removing18:29
harolddongas it stands right now I'm having the same kdm/plasma borked login issues that a lot of people are having. I have to jump through hoops to get to a usable desktop.  some updated packages wrecked the oxygen icons and nepomuk still doesn't work.  Fix all that stuff and I'll be a happy camper18:29
gorgonizerif you had the 0.1.4 version, you need at lest the 0.1.5 version..18:29
vbgunzlast upgrade just killed X in the middle of updating18:29
vbgunzhad to run dpkg --configure -a18:29
gorgonizerthough you can now use Jabber/XMPP to join Facebook Chat18:29
harolddongvbgunz, it can do that if it's upgrading kdm18:30
anoneemouselol this is like a desktop massacre18:30
Biosftwwoh sweet its working thanks : P18:30
vbgunznepomuk indexing agents have been disabled :(18:30
Biosftwoh can i?18:30
vbgunzharolddong: yeah, but I was looking at nothing. I had no tty 1-6 and it never turned itself on. I waited a couple minutes :/18:30
gorgonizerBiosftw: see http://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php for more info.. :)18:30
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harolddongeven when you get nepomuk setup right you still can'tuse the tag database to search because nothing else will see it. It's been this way since the move to virtuoso backend.  The Sesame backend worked fine18:31
vbgunzwindow grouping. tty 1-6, nepomuk still all seem broken and effect performance is still shot bad :/18:32
harolddongI tried the faceboook xmpp setup but it didnt work. Has anybody gotten it to work?18:32
anoneemouseharolddong: it wokrs for me18:32
harolddongit just wont ever sign on in kopete for me18:32
gorgonizerharolddong: working here in Kopete18:32
harolddonghmmmm, what are your settings?18:33
anoneemouseat first it threw me out with a password error. and then it mysteriously started working after a while18:33
harolddongI followed the instructions on on the fb page but maybe I missed something18:33
gorgonizerharolddong: I also had a kopete-facebook plugin account setup, my XMPP account only signed in when I removed both accounts and created the XMPP account only..18:33
harolddongyeah I havent had the fb plugin installed in a while since it never worked anyway18:34
anoneemouseis there a way i can force ubuntu to reinstall all the kde 4.4 packages18:35
Biosftwthanks gorgonizer18:35
harolddongI dont think that will help, anon18:35
anoneemousei got some strange KIO errors while the update was running18:35
gorgonizerharolddong: I used the settings shown when I clicked the Other option on the Facebook Chat page..18:35
wizkoderhy everybody18:36
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wizkoderI just tried to get the facebook chat working with kopete. but get the message "xmpp 1.0 is needed". Wat can I do?18:36
anoneemousewizkoder: make sure override servers settings is not checked18:37
harolddongso "allow plaintext authentication" and "use protocol encryption" are both unchecked?18:38
harolddongport 5222?18:38
anoneemousethats right but you shouldnt mess with the port settings18:39
harolddongwell then mine is setup right.  dunno why its not working18:39
wizkodersame here. its not working18:39
anoneemousetry deleting the account and recreating it in kopete... sounds strange but it worked for me18:40
harolddongthat's what I'm trying right now18:40
seekisi am trying to setup kubuntu netbook remix via usb and install gets stuck at black screen18:40
seekisis my image bad or is something else hindering the install18:41
seekisim running unr right now18:41
wizkoderYou are right. This time just entered my username and its working :-)18:41
harolddongyay now it works18:42
dmattconcerning borked login, i went through apt log and except kdepim-runtime-libs4 dependency problem there is nothing which looks suspicious18:42
seekisi tried the try before install and it reaches a screen that has a prompt that says ubuntu@ubuntu:18:44
anoneemousei dont think ill ever use kpackagekit again... im using apt-get and it seems to be updating stuff that kpackagekit claimed it was updating18:44
seekiswhere do i go from there18:44
harolddongaptitude is the best ad its all you need18:45
harolddong*and18:46
harolddongokay kopete/xmpp login problem fixed18:46
harolddongnow let'sfigure out the rest of this stuff18:46
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dmattharolddong: do you know if there is bug filed for borked login after upgrade to 4.4?18:52
dmattor anybody else18:52
harolddongI don't know18:52
benoitgdmatt: If there is, haven't found it.18:53
kuseDid a dist-upgrade on karmic today, after that I got some problems when booting, seems like kdm/xorg isnt working as it should, all I get is a blackscreen, switching to a tty and back to X (ctrl+alt+f7) brings back kdm correctly, anyone knows what can be wrong?18:54
OzoNekuse the same problem here after upgrade to kde 4.4.018:55
xMinehello18:55
OzoNeI do Alt+E for reload KDM and OK18:55
kuseOzoNe: yeah thats why I upgraded, kde 4.4, is this a known issue then?18:55
OzoNeI don't know if this is a known issue, but affects me too :)18:56
dmattI am going to test it one more time18:56
BenteHow can I change a icon, that I have on my desktop?18:57
harolddongits affecting a lot of poeple18:57
xMinei need help. i've updated to KDE 4.4 and now i can't start kde: first i could login, the init window came and after the K was there it disappeared. then i had a black screen (with mouse) and a window that said that plasma crashed. so i've switched to console and installed "plasma-desktop" and now i can't even login!18:57
xMineany help would be appreciated18:57
harolddongits a known issue, xmine18:58
xMineso, how can i downgrade?18:59
xMinecan i remove "plasma-desktop" again?18:59
dmattso alt-e works for me as well, that makes starting a lot easier19:00
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harolddongso just press alt-e to reload kdm if is borked?  was not aware of that19:02
betinhoppl, I just updated to ppa:backports on 9.1, and my accents stopped working in kde 4.4 ( but they do work on firefox )19:02
OzoNebetinho, same problem here, its because kde-l10n-* is not updated19:03
OzoNemaybe we need wait19:03
anoneemouseyay i got plasma back19:03
ToxinPoweOzoNe: or a qt-error like old versions o kde419:04
betinhoOzoNe: but kde-i10n is not for translations?19:04
betinhoit's not for keyboard input.19:04
lucypheranoneemouse : what have you done?19:04
betinhoyup, probably a Qt error.19:04
OzoNebetinho then I don't know what happen :S19:04
anoneemouseapt-get install plasma-desktop19:04
OzoNebetinho I think that someone should report19:05
betinhocan you?19:05
betinhoI always got lost on that bug reporting page.19:06
OzoNeI don't know how, and my english sux19:06
betinhoand yet, we are talking here in english.19:06
OzoNetoo easy english xD19:06
ToxinPoweme too19:06
ToxinPowetarzan english :)19:06
lucypheranoneemouse : already installed and I've also tried to reinstall the package, I think that the problem is KDM, I've installed GDM and no crashes happenned19:06
ubuntui have a question, i cannot get pass bye that screen when it asks you wich operatin system... what  sould i do? it stopped yesterday...19:07
betinhoubuntu: cry.19:07
ubuntuthis is live version kubuntu, sould i try to install this?19:07
xMineawesome, black screen after grub19:08
xMineand a blinking cursor19:08
ubuntuhm... no one... i should have never left winxp19:08
ubuntuenoy your linux... it has no use19:08
chfwiggumhaha19:09
anoneemousei dont know lucypher, my update updated some packages but not others19:09
anoneemousethis caused bad crashes19:09
dmattanoneemouse: use apt-get install dist-upgrade19:10
xMinewhat the fuck, i can't select something in the recovery menu. c'mon, this is linux not windows19:10
darthanubis!language | xMine19:11
ubottuxMine: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.19:11
anoneemousethanks dmatt: thats not a bad idea19:11
xMineis it so hard to help a noob? really...19:11
betinhoxMine: try19:12
betinhoctrl + alt + f419:12
betinhoit should place you in a terminal19:12
betinhothen19:12
betinhoctrl + alt + f719:12
betinhoit *should* get you back to safety19:12
xMineblack screen w/ blinking cursor19:12
betinhoin ctrl + alt + f4?19:13
xMineyes19:13
OzoNeor Alt+E after reboot and black screen, it reload KDM19:13
betinhohm... I didn't know about Alt + E.19:13
OzoNeit works for me, if you are in the KDM tty19:14
dmattworks for me to19:14
dmatttoo19:14
xMinewhen i boot normal i don't get a screen - only a black screen with a blinking cursor19:14
xMinei see a mouse cursor for a half second and then it disapperas again19:15
xMinei don't even have  a console19:15
betinhoxMine: me too. but then I do a ctrl + alt + f1 - then a ctrl + alt + f719:15
betinhoand it works19:15
betinhothis only with kde 4.4 tougth.19:15
betinhobut I'm using kde 4.4 on another distro, and all I can think is 'ubuntu's fault'19:15
OzoNebetinho in another distro, accents are working OK?19:15
xMinethe same screen on ctrl+alt+ f1 - f12 -.-19:15
binarylooksraindog: strange...cool, but strange :-)19:16
xMinewhen i have to reinstall it anyway, should i try the new lucid dreams beta? or karmic koala?19:16
raindogbinarylooks: huh?19:16
betinhoOzoNe: yup.19:16
binarylooksraindog: sorry, was for racecar5619:17
betinhoxMine: I guess you should try another linux.19:17
betinhomaybe mandriva.19:17
xMinemh, isn't ubuntu the best for linux beginners?19:17
betinhoxMine: I don't get accents, and I'm not a beginner.19:17
betinhoxMine: all of the big linuxes are now usable by beginners,19:18
chfwiggumxMine: you press the keys at the same time?19:18
xMineyes19:18
anoneemousei wanna try this window tabbing thing... how do i do it?19:18
lucypherxMine: have you tried to change keyboard layout in systemsetting?19:18
betinhoanoneemouse: click on the window with the middle mouse button and drag to the other window19:18
betinholucypher: I did, and no accents whatsoever.19:18
anoneemousebetinho... tried that, doesnt do anything19:19
xMineno, i can't even got to that. even the secure mode thing is broken -.-19:19
xMine*go19:19
inclementanoneemouse: Make sure you are using the oxygen theme, that middle click on titlebar is defined as 'drag to tab mode' or similar, and middle click drag one window onto another19:19
xMineso, is there a "good" linux distro with the new kde 4.4?19:19
inclementxMine: It's only been released for a few hours, so I doubt there is any consensus right now19:20
xMineokay, i think then i'm gonna put the usb stick in again and reinstall ...19:21
anoneemouseinclement: i cant find the settings. I am using oxygen19:21
xMinecan debian run kde 4.4?19:23
inclementxMine: Settings > Window behaviour > Window behaviour > Titlebar actions ?19:23
inclementThen the middle click option?19:24
inclement(Though I thought this was automatically set)19:24
inclementAlso, is it oxygen both for main theme and for window settings? You have to set both ,that confused me19:24
anoneemouseawesome... its working. Thanks inclement19:25
anoneemousenow i can make mutant applications.... bwhahahaha19:25
inclement:)19:26
xMinedoes kde 4.4 run on lucid dream?19:28
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sverro2xMine yes19:31
xMineokay ... then i have to download the iso haha...19:34
oxymoronDoes someone has an explanation why I got black screen when KDE login? First SPlashimage and some noisy stripes and then it goes black. I goes ctr+alt+f* and then back with ctrl+art+f7 and works, why so? :S19:34
xMineor is there a command to upgrade from 9.10 to lucid dreams?19:34
sverro2xMine Sorry, I only read Lucid :) I don't know Lucid Dream19:34
xMinenp - so there is no way to do this?19:35
Armi^hi all. Who can help me get kmail to work again? Akonadi doesnt seem to start up anymore (kde 4.4 sc)19:37
benoitgArmi^: Try: akonadictl stop; akonadictl start;19:38
benoitgArmi^: Paste the error to pastebin and the url here19:38
inclementoxymoron: Lots of people have this, including me. Seems to be a kdm issue. I hope it will be fixed soon, but don't nkow anything more19:39
Armi^benoitg: http://pastebin.org/9024919:39
Armi^there it is19:39
Armi^stopping it and starting it again isnt working (akonadiserver" crashed too often and will not be restarted!)19:40
IppatsuManHi all, I guess I'm not the only one who broke KDE by using the PPA Backports repository. The error reported by KDM is: "/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdm_greet: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libQtSvg.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN15QGraphicsObject16staticMetaObjectE" Is there any workaround or fix?19:42
oxymoroninclement: Alright, does somebody know why it is so or it is a big question mark for everyone? :P Its kind of sad, I thought KDE 4.4 would be perfect and flawless and KDM is messing :( First off i got som message on my screen that X-server tried to commmunicate through an unsyncronized mode or something like htat.19:42
IppatsuMan(if I run startx then kdeinit4 just says that the installation is broken and quits)19:43
Tm_TIppatsuMan: that sounds like you have broken installation19:45
newbie123abcWhere is kde 4.4 rc3?19:45
newbie123abcsorry19:46
WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc: meaning where it was tagged within the project's source tree? or you want the kubuntu packages?19:46
newbie123abckde 4.4 was release19:46
WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc: kde44 final for kubuntu? follow the links in the URL19:46
WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc: meant channel topic ... or www.kubuntu.org19:47
plan_rich_hi there. i also updated to 4.4... the whole plasma desktop does not work and quits with error. Also there is a package conflict with klipper because of kdebase-workspace-data19:47
newbie123abcWaltzingAlong: but and ppa?19:47
IppatsuManTm_Tr: uhm, yes, I kinda already figured that out, the question is: how can I fix it?19:47
WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc: yes it would be to add the kubuntu backports ppa19:47
Armi^benoitg: any luck19:47
Armi^?19:47
sverro2Is there a place where I can download the 10.04 alpha 119:48
sverro2?19:48
newbie123abcWaltzingAlong: not released yet?19:48
benoitgArmi^: Sorry, doesn't look like any error I ever saw personally.19:50
newbie123abcHow can i update to KDE 4.4 ?19:51
Armi^benoitg: ah ok, it was there a few days ago and i do not know what killed it19:51
Armi^well, will search the web some more19:52
Armi^thnx anyways :D19:52
newbie123abcplz19:53
newbie123abchelp me19:53
WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc: yes, you could. packages are available for kubuntu karmic19:53
Armi^newbie123abc: see http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.419:53
newbie123abcWaltzingAlong: after "aptitude update" kde 4.3.95 persist19:54
Armi^newbie123abc: add the last line (ppa: ..... ) to your update sources19:54
newbie123abcArmi^: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu ?19:58
WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc:    deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main20:00
Armi^newbie123abc: open 'system settings' (somewhere in the k menu) > 'add and remove software' > Settings > Edit software sources (and enter password) > Other software > Add > ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports > OK / Now update your system20:02
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WaltzingAlongnewbie123abc: getting it?20:08
newbie123abcWaltzingAlong: Armi^ : ok working fine. Thanks a lot.20:11
Armi^np ;)20:11
xMinecool, ubuntu keeps the data after a reinstall20:12
WaltzingAlongxMine: which info?20:12
xMinebackground and stuff20:13
newbie123abcWaltzingAlong: Armi^ : ok working fine. Thanks a lot.20:13
newbie123abcsorry 2x20:13
Armi^lol20:14
sverro2newbie123abc does it really work fine? not unstable?20:15
Armi^sverro2: i installed it too this evening and everything is running great. Only problem i have is that akonadi wont start, but that problem started a week ago20:16
sverro2Armi^ in 9.10 or 10.0420:16
sverro2?20:16
Armi^9.1020:17
sverro2Armi^ then I'll install it too. can't wait :)20:17
Armi^sverro2: good luck20:17
sverro2Armi^ thanks20:18
sena---hello everybody20:20
sena---i am trying to use wpa_supplicant v 0.5.8 on my kubuntu 8.04 and i get strange behaviour that i could not solve after a lot of searching and reading20:20
sena---if i try to connect to my wpa encrypted ap with wpa_supplicant it connects - everything is fine20:21
sena---f i change my mac with macchanger it doed not connect20:21
sena---and I get this error20:21
darthanubishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubufox/+bug/47685320:21
sena---Authentication with 00:00:00:00:00:00 timed out20:22
sena---anyone any idea?20:22
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xMinewhere can i see which kde version i'm using?20:24
ToxinPoweHelp, About KDE20:24
xMinety20:25
sverro2Armi^ can I just add the repository and update?20:27
xMineso.... when will be there the final kde 4.4?20:27
WaltzingAlongsverro2: yes20:27
WaltzingAlongxMine: packages are available now for kubuntu20:28
xMinein which repo?20:28
sverro2WaltzingAlong, ok thanks, thats really easy20:28
xMineoh, a new grub version20:28
e_t_Are other people having a problem with KDM at login?20:28
xMineme20:28
WaltzingAlongxMine: can you view the channel topic from there? or check out the link at www.kubuntu.org20:29
WaltzingAlonge_t_: yes20:29
e_t_What's going on with that?20:29
igor_hello everybody. after upgrade to 4.4 when loading x-server appear colored artifacts. After restart the x-server work fine, anyone any idea?20:31
xMinewhy are there blocked updates? should i not install these or what about them?20:32
sverro2WaltzingAlong, I've got 71 blocked updates in kpackagekit20:33
WaltzingAlongsverro2: ok20:33
sverro2WaltzingAlong, perhaps it will work with "sudo apt-get upgrade"?20:34
WaltzingAlongsverro2: could try it. i prefer aptitude, but as you like20:35
dmatthello, I filed bug for KDM login problem, if you experience it please write so in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22639220:35
WaltzingAlongblocked updates - newer version available, required dependencies for newer version not available20:36
dmattsverro2: sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade20:36
sverro2dmatt, thanks20:36
Armi^dmaat sverro2 : I prefer the aptitude command instead of the apt-get command20:37
dmattArmi^: yes, aptitude upgrade should work too20:37
Armi^aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade20:38
sverro2Armi^, I don't know how aptitude actualy works. I really must learn it. Can't be too difficult20:38
Armi^is my live motto ;P20:38
xMinewhat key is SYSRQ ?20:38
Koenji-Hyakkeisame as print screen20:40
xMineah, okay20:40
Armi^sverro2: aptitude has only one command. For example: aptitude search (apt-cache search); aptitude update (apt-get update); enz20:40
OzoNedmat it seems that the problem is only in kubuntu, so kde.org is not the site for report that bug20:41
Armi^sverro2: just type ' man aptitude '20:41
Armi^sverro2: handeles dependencies better alsio20:41
dmattOzoNe: I asked without answer on kubuntu devel, how to report it20:42
sverro2Armi^, that's nice indeed :) Thanks for the "man aptitude"20:42
dmattOzoNe: where shoul I report it then?20:42
OzoNedmatt, launchpad.net I think, but I don't know really20:42
dmattit is from backports and that is not supported afaik20:43
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sverro2Armi^ I've upgraded, so perhaps, I ll write again :) I reboot NOW20:45
Armi^sverro2: good luck again ;)20:45
dmattnobody but kubuntu users have this KDM bug?20:47
benoitgdmatt: Good question20:47
Armi^dmatt: what bug?20:47
xMineYES, i have KDE 4.4 now20:49
Armi^He just found out my concoles are all fuzzy (ctrl-alt-F120:49
xMinejust did apt-get update & dist-upgrade before restart20:49
dmattArmi^: empty black page instead of login page - https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22639220:49
sverro2Armi^ I am back again. Wow, thanks a lot. KDE 4.4 is awesome :)20:50
Armi^sverro2: have fun :D20:50
Armi^dmatt: no bug here. But do you get a prompt when going to another tty?20:51
Armi^I only get weird colors20:51
dmattArmi^: me the same20:51
Armi^k20:52
igor_Armi^: I get weird colors too in kde4.4()20:53
racecar57pidgin refuses to minimize into my indicator applet when i close it, but instead of minimizing like normal, the whole thing shuts down. why?20:55
racecar57also, i wonder why i am racecar57...i'm racecar56...20:55
Guest39931OK i got that fixed...20:57
Guest39931wait...what??? now im a guet20:57
Guest39931*guest20:57
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jrmysalut21:00
jrmybesoin d'aide21:00
WaltzingAlongsalut21:01
WaltzingAlongjrmy: in english or21:01
WaltzingAlong!fr | jrmy21:01
ubottujrmy: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois21:01
WaltzingAlongplease21:01
jrmybeh laissé tombé j'aime pas l'anglais xd21:01
josef_hallo21:08
sahk0hi, trying to update to KDE 4.4 i added PPA in my sources list but i get a whole bunch of blocked updates. how do i deal with that?21:09
sahk0im using 9.1021:09
sahk0WaltzingAlong: you got to be kidding me. a notice?21:11
sverro2sahk0 open terminal and type ¨ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade¨21:11
sahk0WaltzingAlong told me to sudo aptitude -y full-upgrade21:11
sahk0which seems better21:12
WaltzingAlongsahk0: either should work. i prefer aptitude21:13
Ahox_Hi, when running virtuosoconverter I get an Could not find a valid Virtuoso installation, any ideas why?21:13
sahk0those two do the same?21:13
WaltzingAlongsahk0: very similar, yes21:14
WaltzingAlongsahk0: you could also use aptitude with dist-upgrade, but full-upgrade is preferred21:14
sahk0yeah read the man page21:15
sahk0thanks, im gonna go with yours21:15
sahk0hope it doesnt die21:15
WaltzingAlongsahk0: and no, not kidding you. yes it was a notice21:15
sahk0youre probably the first "normal" person to sent me a notice on freenode21:16
sahk0is that common practice around here?21:16
WaltzingAlongnot sure about normal or not21:17
sahk0by normal i meant not spammer, moron, younameit21:17
WaltzingAlongwe have not yet established that i am not a moron ;)21:18
sahk0hah :) yeah i guess i will have to reboot to figure that part out. but thanks for the reply21:19
WaltzingAlong:D21:19
sahk0ftr i port all that stuff to the status window so chances are i wouldnt have noticed the notice :p21:22
sahk0wow its gonna be an hour21:22
WaltzingAlonggives you something to look forward to21:23
ziggyany dolphin gurus here?21:28
WaltzingAlongziggy: not kubuntu specific questions about dolphin could probably be asked in #kde21:33
darthanubis!ask | ziggy21:33
ubottuziggy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:33
ziggyi dont know if its kubuntu specific or not...but i have an external drive formatted for a mac, and i cant paste files to it through dolphin, any ideas what im dong wrong?21:36
WaltzingAlongziggy: might need to look at hfs tools21:37
ziggyhfs tools?21:38
ziggyok, thanks21:38
WaltzingAlong!info hfsutils | ziggy21:39
ubottuziggy: hfsutils (source: hfsutils): Tools for reading and writing Macintosh volumes. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.6-11build2 (karmic), package size 80 kB, installed size 244 kB21:39
ziggythanks waltzing21:40
WaltzingAlongcheers21:40
Tophhow do i tell which version of KDE I'm running?21:41
racecar56Toph: open a KDE program (like konqueror)21:41
racecar56Toph: and click help and click about kde21:42
Tophracecar56: ok,, thanks21:42
racecar56Toph: any time :]21:42
Tophi thought i had updated to KDE 4.4, but I see I'm still with 4.3.221:43
WaltzingAlongToph: have you reloaded kde since then?21:43
TophWaltzingAlong: yes, i restarted my computer21:44
ToxinPoweToph: use add-apt-repository and apt-get update21:44
ToxinPoweppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports, apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade21:45
Tophi did:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta        sudo apt-get update       sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:47
ToxinPoweand your packages were installed?21:47
varisiteehello21:47
ToxinPowedpkg -l|grep kde21:47
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TophToxinPowe: that produced a good number of hits ,  but i don't see 4.4 included21:51
TophToxinPowe: that produced a good number of hits ,  but i don't see 4.4 included21:51
ToxinPoweToph: then you didn't install 4.421:52
ToxinPoweapt-get -f install?21:53
ToxinPoweor dpkg --configure -a if you had problems with the upgrade21:53
Tophso what is the command to install?21:53
ToxinPoweapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, but maybe your install don't finish21:54
kubianToph: if u want 4.4 add the ppa:backports not beta in karmic21:54
Tophkubian: ok,, good point21:56
ToxinPoweups, sorry then I was wrong21:57
kubianToph: shud be ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports21:57
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Tophok,, thanks21:58
kubianno problema21:58
ubuntu#ubuntu-es22:00
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twotenI'm trying to install kubuntu 9.10 from my cd, but it keeps dropping me into a console and asking me to run root commands22:08
twotenI've switched on noapic and nolapic and safe graphics mode but always the same thing22:08
twotenI have an nvidia 7600, it should be recognized, what gives?22:09
raindogI'm using 4.4 from backports.  I have apparently deleted all activities and I can't get to the corner cashew to create one.  Any suggestions?22:10
twotenit won't boot into live cd mode, and it won't install directly from the boot menu22:10
raindogRather the corner cashew is not there.22:10
twotenI've never heard of corner cashew, the urge to make nut jokes is strong22:11
twotenseems like these kubuntuans have better things to do than help a retard like me22:12
raindogtwoten: It may take awhile.22:13
twotenI'm losing I.Q. points just sitting here waiting22:13
twotenwhen my slobber hits the keyboard you'll know by my string of gibberish22:14
Torchraindog: deleting (or moving away) all files $HOME/.kde/share/config/plasma* should reset that22:14
Torchraindog: of course you need to do that while plasma is not running22:15
raindogTorch: Thanks for the help.  I should have thought of that.  :)22:15
twotenmmm erf uhhn mep22:16
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dmatttwoten: what exactly does it says and when?22:16
twotenthe farthest I get is doing the direct install, it says a percentage and setting the time by network time server, gets to 30%, says it is detecting file systems, then hangs up there, when I press a key I get a console22:18
twotenwhen I try startx it X can't start because no screens found22:20
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dmatttwoten: start live cd mode and start instalation from terminal then watch for errors22:22
twotenis there a log file that I can less if I need to read back a few screens?22:23
dmatttwoten: should be, but I do not know where22:24
twotenokay, I'm off to reboot, I'll power up my second box and come back to irc from there22:24
JDahlhow do I install KDE 4.4 from karmic backports? I have backports enabled, but I don't see any KDE 4.4 packages, and apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade anything22:30
ToxinPoweppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports22:31
GalvatronHi22:32
GalvatronJust installed Kubuntu 9.10 and upgraded KDE to 4.4 and theres a serious problem22:32
GalvatronAfter system loading22:33
GalvatronSorry22:34
GalvatronI write like an analphabet22:34
TorchGalvatron: try ONE line ;-)22:34
GalvatronJust after loading the system, a screen blinks and there are colorful squared/rectangles/stripes (like artifacts) instead of login screen22:35
dasenkde 4.4 rocks!!22:35
dmattGalvatron: welcome to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22639222:35
dmattGalvatron: most likely22:36
Torchsounds more like a kubuntu problem than a kde bug, though.22:37
GalvatronPerhaps I should try reinstalling KDM?22:37
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dmattGalvatron: I filed that bug and if you read it, I tried that, there are also workarounds listed22:38
TorchGalvatron: i had the same effect on lucid when the packages weren't all uploaded by the kubuntu guys, so maybe that will help.22:38
dmattTorch: it works when you restart kdm with ALT-E22:39
zuzka_hi22:39
Torchdmatt: it works for me on lucid now that all packages are there.22:39
Torchdmatt: just by installing the missing ones.22:40
GalvatronWhen do I hit Alt + E?22:40
twotenI'm back, now talking to you from my dual xeon server box22:41
dmattTorch: Were you able to login using alternative method?22:41
GalvatronWhen the "artifacts" appear?22:41
Torchdmatt: didn't even try. i knew it was a packaging problem, so why waste time?22:41
dmattGalvatron: yes, it restarts KDM22:41
GalvatronOne more issue22:41
zuzka_i had kubuntu installed, then installed windows 7. now i need to restore the bootloader, any hints?22:41
GalvatronSeems like the desktop isnt loading fully22:41
twotenI'm back, now talking to you from my dual xeon server box22:42
dmattTorch: well I updated morning, updated again in evening and the problem persists22:42
GalvatronTheres no default wallpaper and right-click doesn't work22:42
Torchdmatt: on lucid the problem was that the theme for kdm was missing. maybe this is the case for you guys on karmic, too.22:43
dmattGalvatron: check if you have any updates held back22:43
twotenso I selected boot into livecd, with safe graphics, noapic and nolapic, it dropped into a console, at the top I get stdin: error 022:44
twotenshadow passwords are now on22:44
GalvatronJust tried sudo aptitude update --> full-upgrade and there's nothing22:44
twotencopying package lists22:45
twotenI don't want to go back to Windows 9822:45
GalvatronBut I'm sure that installation isn't complete22:45
GalvatronI had similar desktop issue with Jaunty, after lame "safe-upgrade"22:46
dmattGalvatron: try to reinstall kubuntu desktop22:46
dmattkubuntu-desktop22:46
GalvatronDone22:46
dmattand plasma-desktop22:46
GalvatronDone22:47
GalvatronHow can I activate Alt + Ctrl + Backspace in KDE 4.4?22:48
dmattTorch: I doubt wrong packaging if it works for other people and I waited 12 hours to be sure all files are on the server22:48
GalvatronThere's no "Keyboard ayout"22:48
twotenoh no, I remember now, I had to install 8.04 on this box first, then do a distro upgrade to 9.1022:50
twotenis that what I will have to do on the other machine too?22:51
GalvatronWhy can't you just use 9.10 CD?22:51
twotenit craps out before I can install or even get livecd to run22:51
dmattGalvatron: I have two system trays - but I messed with .kde folder when trying to repair install22:52
GalvatronBrb22:52
GalvatronI'll reboot and check my KDM22:53
GalvatronAll right22:58
GalvatronReinstalling plasma/kubuntu-desktop solved the desktop issue22:58
zuzka_hi22:58
zuzka_i had KUBUNU installed first, then installed Windows 722:58
GalvatronAnd it orverwrote MBR...22:59
GalvatronRight?22:59
zuzka_sure. now i downloaded the install iso of kubuntu 9.10, but cant seem to boot from it22:59
zuzka_any ideas why? when i try to boot "Boot without changes to system" or "check cd for defects".... there is just a cursor blinking. nothing happens23:00
twotensounds like my machine, are you hiding in my basement?23:01
zuzka_nope23:02
zuzka_is it safe to boot via something else, then overwrite grub?23:03
zuzka_or should i try to install NEOBOOT software23:03
zuzka_or whatever it is called23:04
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GalvatronNope23:04
zuzka_please help, i am stuck in windows(!!!)23:04
GalvatronJust run the LiveCD and recover GRUB23:04
zuzka_like i was saying, there is just blinking cursor when i try to23:05
zuzka_one option that works is "check memory".... havent tried the option "install the system"23:06
Galvatronhttp://www.google.pl/search?hl=pl&client=opera&rls=en&hs=xdi&q=recover+GRUB&btnG=Szukaj&lr=&aq=f&oq=23:06
twotenI seem to remember using apt-get to install mc, then using that to change the xorg.conf file23:07
zuzka_brb23:08
kmitchnerim having a bash scripting problem.. sed keeps stealing my ; in this command:      find ./test/*/statistics -name logs -exec echo "{}.`date +%Y%m%d.%H%M`" | sed s/\//./g | sed s/^..//g \;23:13
dmattzuzka_: how did you install linux before? the same medium should not stop to be bootable unless it broke in the meantime23:15
[GuS]Hi guys, i have a problem with keyboard layout since upgraded to kde4.4... I use spanish and i cant type correctly this: ´a23:30
JontheEchidnamight be https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/52040823:31
[GuS]so, JontheEchidna which fix do you suggest so i cant type correctly dead keys again?23:33
[GuS]installing ibus ?23:33
JontheEchidnadunno, I don't really use deadkeys23:33
Torchkmitchner: you're not really expecting anyone here to debug that for you? ;-))23:34
kmitchneralready got my answer hehe23:34
JontheEchidna[GuS]: thinking about it, the reason things broke is probably because the lucid packaging that the backports were based off of are expected ibus23:34
JontheEchidnaso that would probably be a good eay to fix it23:34
kmitchnerbrain fart, totally didnt realize i couldnt pipe in a find like that.. idiot moment23:34
[GuS]yeah, it seems23:35
[GuS]i will test if that fix this...23:35
zuzka_is it possible my linux live cd wont boot because the cpu is 32 bit and the image 64?23:37
dmattzuzka_: definitely23:37
zuzka_i dont actually know if the cpu is 32b23:38
zuzka_it is amd turion 64 mt-3223:38
zuzka_however, i dont get how i could have installed windows 7 64 bits on it23:39
ddfirehi23:41
ddfirei installed kde 4.4 and its crash23:42
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ddfireany one have the same issue?23:43
dmattddfire: is it similar to https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226392 ?23:44
rmrfslashAnyone else have like 58 blocked updates when updating kpackagekit since yesterday?23:44
rmrfslashwhat do I do about these?23:44
dmattzuzka_: how did you install linux before? the same medium should not stop to be bootable unless it broke in the meantime23:44
ddfiredmatt: nope it said plasma decorator crash23:45
ddfirei get the black screen23:46
ddfiretoo23:46
ddfireand i have auto login so some apps start like pidgin and skype23:47
comawhiteis there a way to get kdevelop4 updated to 3.9.97?23:47
rmrfslashis it safe to ignore em?23:47
comawhiteit's currently is 2 beta versions behind23:47
Torchcomawhite: there is.23:48
Torchcomawhite: you should read the planet from time to time ;-)23:48
comawhiteI do but probably overlooked it23:48
Torchcomawhite: just a second.23:48
comawhiteokie dokie23:48
dmattddfire: hm, autologin skips login page, so the problem happens some time later23:49
ddfireany one get an error on kde 4.4 about decorator crash?23:49
ddfiredmatt: any solution?23:49
Torchdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/daniele.domenichelli/backports/ubuntu karmic main23:49
Torchdeb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/daniele.domenichelli/backports/ubuntu karmic main23:49
Torchcomawhite: add this to your sources23:49
comawhitethanks mate23:49
dmattwhat is the exact message?23:49
Torchcomawhite: gerne geschehen23:49
comawhiteDanke23:50
Torchcomawhite: very good ;-)23:50
[GuS]JontheEchidna: the fix suggested in the bug report (in the last entry) didnt fixed the problem for me :(23:51
comawhiteTorch: I suck at German, wish I had mates that could help me with it =[23:51
Torchcomawhite: you have all of that other channel to help you with... that should suffice!23:52
ddfiredmatt: i think this is the bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226263 i am doing what it said23:52
comawhiteTorch: I mean verbally not text wise23:52
Torchcomawhite: just fly over here. there's a kde release party on saturday in karlsruhe ;-)23:53
comawhiteTorch: only if I had money23:53
comawhiteTorch: well I have a $300 plane vouncher but I don't know if it's for international23:55
jrmybonjour23:56
comawhiteHallo! Wie geht es dir?23:56
jrmyhein ?23:56
jrmydo yo speek french N23:57
jrmy?23:57
comawhiteno23:57
jrmymerde23:57
jrmy-_-'23:57
tsimpson!fr23:57
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois23:57
comawhitefrench is way to complicated23:57
comawhitexD23:57
* Torch wonders if this works for comawhite:23:58
Torch!de23:58
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.23:58
Torch... it does ;-)23:58

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