[00:00] or how can I otherwise get to a shell prompt (in lucid) ? === AssociateXxx is now known as AssociateX [00:06] I have a partition ext3 called storage. How can I give it read and write, no-execute to all my users? [00:08] does anyone use xmms2 ? with a graphical front end ? [00:10] or know of any nice ones ? [00:14] i have just upgraded to kde 4.4 and it broke my pulseaudio server. regular sound works, but i cannot have multiple applications access the sound card. any solution is ok (fix pulse, or fix multiple sources) [00:16] what was the url for the 4.4 thingy? [00:17] Oj... topic [00:17] nvm === AssociateXxx is now known as AssociateX === SG2Tiger_ is now known as SG2 [00:30] Hey. I just updated my whole system, now I'm running 9.10 and kde sc 4.4. I am right now using the radeon opensource driver, i've got a mobility radeon hd 2600 card. glxinfo tellx me direct rendering "yes" but when I enable kwin desktop effects i just get some grey boxes on the screen. [00:31] So my question: does kwin support compositing with radeon driver at all or do i have to use fglrx to get desktop effects? [00:49] I just upgraded to 4.4. isn't there supposed to be a new option to remove the shadow from the theme? oxygen still has a pesky non-modifable shadow on the window border. wasn't this fixed? [00:49] I recently tried to see if the virtuoso-server package bug was fixed (it wasn't) and now after uninstalling the whole virtuoso-server thing I have a cpu monitor up in the upper right corner of my screen. How do I get rid of it? I'm on Lucid. [00:52] got it [00:52] finally [00:59] I have a partition ext3 called storage2, how do I set it up in fstab to mount rw -x for all users on this computer? Kind of like how /tmp works. I have googled the heck out of this. [00:59] v [00:59] does anyone know where the smplayer icon is located? [00:59] anybody know why konversation after upgrading to 4.4 has random dots all throughout the titlebar area? === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [01:15] anybody have dual screen with nvidia binary drivers, do you have dots on your titlebar if you drag your window to the top? what could be causing this? [01:15] nepomuk after logging in, says, nepomuk not running. agent disabled. any solutions to anything above? [01:17] vbgunz: I don't have dots on my titlebar [01:17] dual screen+nvidia binary [01:18] hmm, I have dual screens with nvidias binary and on screen 1 I have konversation right under a top panel and dots are intermittingly showing up. if I move the window the dots move or multiply or disappear. any window I move to that area gets the dots in the border === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [01:18] I just upgraded to 4.4. this was not seen in 4.3 [01:19] my setup is almost the same top panel and konversation on 4.4 [01:19] I don't know sry :s [01:20] what about nepomuk? anybody know what happend on the upgrade to 4.4? [01:20] vbgunz: maybe with a fresh cfg, mv .kde .kde-OLD :m [01:20] nepomuk indexing agent have been disabled [01:21] ToxinPowe: yeah *but* damn, I really don't want to do that. too much counting on that folder :/ [01:22] yep, but you can move old folders if works [01:24] performance regressed for me too. :/ [01:25] im gonna try creating a new user and seeing what happens on that account [01:28] vbgunz: What method did you use to upgrade? [01:30] sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade using the ppa backports [01:30] Okay, I was about to ask if these packages were safe to use [01:30] Do you think I should upgrade then? [01:31] Cause last time I tried to upgrade from 4.2 to 4.3 without waiting for the next release, I ended up regrettin it, too [01:31] I update 2pcs, only 1 problem for know, with spanish keyboards [01:32] gonna try something [01:32] Plus it looks like the backports PPA is still having packages built right now [01:32] *building [01:34] bye [01:35] aaackk! trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/qvfb', which is also in package qt-x11-free-dbg 3:3.3.8-b-5ubuntu3 [01:36] upgrading to 4.4 and i get above... i forget, how do you force overwrite? [01:39] I'd like to know, too [01:39] haha... i sounded like Cathy..... output is here: http://pastebin.com/m7f555872 === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [01:54] hmm.. after reading around --force-overwrite may not be the smart (or even right) thing to do.... anyone have any advice? (http://pastebin.com/m7f555872) [01:57] the only thing bad that would happen is that using the dbg symbols to get backtraces for Qt3 apps wouldn't work [01:57] JontheEchidna: sounds expendable... thanks [01:58] the correct thing for the packagers to do to correct this issue is to just make these packages conflict each other [01:59] well, speaking as on of them that's my position :P === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [02:35] !info rekonq lucid [02:35] rekonq (source: rekonq): KDE web browser based on Webkit. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 375 kB, installed size 1124 kB [02:36] Can someone send me the packaging link for 4.4 kde kubuntu process? [02:40] i'm sure this is an easy question but i haven't found an answer yet: i can't right click my desktop and get a menu anymore. i can right click files in dolphin, etc. just not the desktop [02:40] just updated to 4.4 === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [02:44] hello? [02:47] I don't think 4.4 is ready yet [02:48] can anyone else not right click their desktop anymore? [02:50] ok, seems to be solved by checking "different activity for each desktop" under system settings / desktop / multiple desktops [02:50] what an intuitive spot to put that [02:51] ansong: you probably disabled all the menu plugins [02:51] i probably should have renamed .kde before upgrading [02:51] where would i have done that? [02:52] My memory might be bad but by right clicking on the Desktop :) [02:52] kde 4.4 isn't ready for kubuntu I though [02:52] t [02:53] satepc: good thing is that you don't need to use it :) [02:53] lol, then i'm pretty sure it wasn't me. i didn't get anything right clicking the desktop [02:53] what issues have you found satepc? [02:53] daskreech: any idea when it will be ready for kubuntu [02:53] I haven't installed it yet ansong [02:53] the looks have gotten better every time at least [02:54] Wanna show a screenshot :p [02:54] srslly? [02:54] satepc: Look in the topic :) [02:54] What topic? [02:55] the one you get by typing /topic [02:55] ah [02:55] chat in offtopic? oops [02:55] how do you install it? [02:55] satepc: http://www.kubuntu.org [02:56] i followed the directions on that site. didn't take too long. [02:56] i'll head into offtopic now [02:57] Im not on irc for links, I'm here for real time help [03:01] what's the issue you're having satepc? [03:01] I'm just trying to figure out how to install kde4.4 [03:01] I have 4.3 [03:02] satepc: Add the kubuntu backports ppa, install updated packages. [03:02] what he said [03:05] Yup got it working now [03:06] wow kubuntu worked all day getting this packaged [03:09] Now what ansong just reboot? [03:09] you don't need to reboot, just logout and back in again [03:13] I logged out, but what is different? [03:13] open a KDE app, go to Help -> About KDE, look at the version [03:14] 4.35 [03:15] did you use the kpackagekit or a aptitude / apt-get on the command line? [03:15] you haven't upgraded then, open your package manager and upgrade or use "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [03:16] the dist-upgrade was necessary. i forgot and just ran upgrade which updated a lot but didn't go all the way [03:19] koackage [03:25] ummm [03:25] I rebooted, its still saying 4.4 [03:25] i checked kb3 app [03:26] 4.3* [03:29] quick question: how do I close applications when using kde 4.4 with the plasma netbook shell [03:30] meh I guess I can just try and figure it out === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [03:50] YeeeeHaa.. I just got Twinkle to connect to my office PBX.. cool kde app [03:51] hi all. Can someone tell me the device name for Pulseaudio? I ahve xvidcaputre and I want to capture audio but don't knwo the device name it asks. I looked in /dev and no find [04:03] what, we have this dumbass indicator applet thing on kubuntu now? how do i ditch it? it followed me all the way from gnome, apparently. [04:03] oops, i just deleted my panel. === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [04:20] i cant find anyone else with this problem: after installing kde4.4 from the karmic-backports ppa it no longer boots into kde. Ctrl+Alt+F1 is scrambled also. [04:20] Ctrl+Alt+F7 shows a black screen with the cursor and a messagebox about unable to load the oxygen theme... [04:21] i also apt-get remove'd kde (as best i could) and re-installed 4.4 [04:22] what causes "blocked updates?" [04:23] jschall: many things...unmet dependencies (ie broken packages, missing apt sources, etc) for one [04:36] thx for the 4.4 [04:36] those upgrading don't discard the beta ppa just yet [04:36] still depends in there you need [04:43] I have a list of packages for apt-get or aptitude. I need to remove packages from this list that will automatically be installed. how do I go about that? [04:45] vbgunz: since you posted in 2 channels.. I'll bite.. are you talking about an update? [04:46] scunizi: I have a list of packages I originally got from dpkg --get-selections. thing is, its huge. 664 packages. I know some if not most of those packages are dependencies. I want to filter that list into a readable list of packages. otherwise it is cryptic [04:46] I am just trying to filter out the names of packages in that list that are automatically going to be installed based in another package actually depending on it [04:47] vbgunz: what was the original intent.. to list all the main packages? [04:47] for example: libssl-dev Depends zlib1g-dev ... so remove libssl-dev from that long list [04:48] scunizi: pretty much. only show the main packages. [04:48] ah.. ok.. do you have to do this via dpkg or would you be willing to get that list in a different fashion? [04:49] scunizi: I already got the list but other than that, I am cool with whatever works :) [04:49] what do you have in mind? [04:50] ok.. there's a web page that shows all the main packages broken down by repo ie Main, backports, by release version etc.. packages.ubuntu.com [04:50] !ops [04:50] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, tsimpson, jpds, seth_k, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, genii, trappist, crimsun, seth, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild, Pici, jussi01, ikonia, Mamarok, ryanakca or maco [04:50] I should have a list just like that in text form I believe on my very system. I don't know where it is or what its called :/ [04:51] F40PH: Don't do that [04:51] !ops [04:51] i just did [04:51] !ops [04:51] Wat for [04:51] vbgunz: possibly but I don't either.. perhaps in /etc/apt but I'm guessing [04:52] vbgunz: maybe sudo updatedb and then locate *.deb [04:53] I can find the debs :( [04:54] scunizi: thanks for trying to help. I wish dpkg was smart enough to figure it out [04:54] vbgunz: have you "man dpkg" 'd yet?.. (wish hope and a prayer) [04:55] no, using --get-selections is what I am referring too. im in it now, though I am betting its not there. I tried this before and failed [04:58] nepomuk keeps stopping after login [05:02] vbgunz: I'm checking on #linux .. you've got my curiosity up :) [05:03] anybody had a problem booting after installing 4.4? [05:03] scunizi: apt-cache has some good stuff [05:03] apt-cache dump is looking promising [05:03] vbgunz: there's got to be more "switches" to narrow it down [05:04] yeah, be sweet I can get a python dictionary out of the deal ;) [05:05] scunizi: hmm, apt-cache is really looking up right now [05:05] thanks you for your interest. worse comes to worse, I'll try parsing some of this stuff [05:05] Night all! [05:05] this is the fun stuff [05:06] scunizi: it appears apt-cache depends will get me a good list to start parsing. im anxious. going to reinvent a wheel or two :) [05:07] why do you need to prune the list? === PenneitE is now known as EtienneP [05:08] vbgunz: check out dpkg -l \* | grep '^[^i]i' [05:09] you don't need the '*', "dpkg -l|egrep '^ii'" will work [05:09] scunizi: nothing [05:09] I just piped apt-cache depends to a file and am checking that out quick [05:10] tsimpson: we're trying to get a list of packages available without the dependancies associated with them.. is that the right way? [05:10] scunizi: my question is, why is that needed? [05:10] "dpk -l|egrep '^ii'" lists _all_ installed packages [05:11] tsimpson: not sure but that's what vbgunz is trying to do [05:11] tsimpson: I think he want a list of the repo packages available... main packages without dependancies [05:12] if you just want a list of default packages, look at the dependencies of ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-standard, and kubuntu-desktop [05:12] tsimpson: where do you find that list === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [05:13] tsimpson: that is not the list I am looking for [05:14] scunizi: either "apt-cache show " or "apt-cache depends " [05:14] vbgunz: so what are you trying to do exactly? [05:15] tsimpson: I could be far off. kubuntu has or had or damn I couldn't find it a way to let me know my own downloading history. some times I download packages that have many dependencies. if I remember to remove the package the dependencies go. thats fine. but over the span of about 3 years. whoa. too many. its nuts :( [05:16] vbgunz: apt-get autoremove or autoclean [05:16] !deborphan [05:16] so I am just trying to filter a long list I got from dpkg-selections into a list of main packages in which I know I installed or know I need. its hard running through 664 packages atm... I would like to filter it down even further [05:16] deborphan is a program used to clean up packages that are no longer needed (install from Synaptic/Adept). [05:16] you can use deborphan to remove packages that nothing depends on [05:16] I added backports, did apt-get update, but I get a lot of unresolvable dependencies, is tehere another repo to add? [05:16] there* [05:16] tsimpson: that's a new one for me.. never knew that existed.. thanks [05:16] scunizi: autoclean autoremove are awesome. when you know the main packahe you're removing. my case is about 3 years of cli apps, etc [05:17] vbgunz: I use it on occation and it seems to clean things that are no longer needed.. dependancies and such.. perhaps deborphan will work for you as tsimpson suggested. [05:18] just be careful not to remove anything you're not sure about [05:18] if it starts with "lib", "linux", "ubuntu" or "kubuntu", leave it :) [05:19] scunizi: deborphan not really. kubuntu already does most of it. my issue is not in finding the packages I have installed *but* filtering a list of packages I have that I haven't even installed yet [05:19] with deborphan? .. if it's orphaned then shouldn't it have no other packages dependant on it? [05:19] scunizi: the list of packages I have are not installed [05:19] i am going through this list to run it through apt-get [05:19] k [05:20] I think I can parse the apt-cache depends list enough for me to do what needs to be done [05:20] vbgunz: use something like [05:20] while read pkg; do dpkg -l|egrep '^ii'|grep -q $pkg || echo "You need to install $pkg";done < my_package_list [05:21] tsimpson: hold up. too much cli-fu right there atm [05:21] :) [05:21] what are the computer visionn libraries (libcv1, livcvaux1 & libhighgui1) for and why did they get pulled in when I did a dist-upgrade? [05:22] or: dpkg -l|egrep '^ii'|awk '{print $2}' > installed; while read pkg; do egrep -q "^$pkg$" installed || echo "$pkg" [05:23] vbgunz: "dpkg -l|egrep '^ii' > installed" dumps your installed packages to a file called "installed" [05:23] harolddo1g: dist-upgrade pulls in new version of available packages [05:24] vbgunz: "while read pkg; do egrep -q "^$pkg$" installed || echo "$pkg" < wanted_packages" will read each line from "wanted_packages" and check for that line in "installed", if it's not there it'll print out the line (package) [05:24] bash is fun :) === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [05:24] yeah you got the fu ;) [05:24] yeah these packages weren't installed before though. I'm wondering if it has something to with the fact that I cant get a login screen after upgrading to 4.4 [05:25] harolddo1g: perhaps.. reboot to find out :) [05:25] I've done that a few times now [05:26] funny thing is right after installing 4.4 I could get a login screen, just garbled graphics. then dist-upgrade pulled in these computer vision libs. now aptitude update is wanting to remove them === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [05:27] *I mean right after installing 4.4 I COULDN'T get a loginn screen [05:27] nobody has had a problem with 4.4 like that? [05:27] hmmm [05:30] harolddo1g, What repos did you use? [05:31] kubuntu-ppa backports repo [05:32] harolddo1g, Because I have the same repo and I'm getting unresolved dependencies [05:33] yeah me too kdeartwork and kdetoys won't fully update for me. BUt that wouldn't effect the boot would it? [05:35] I can boot into the recovery mode and then just choose continue regular to get to a console login... but if I just try and do a regular boot the screen glitches out before it evenn gets to the login screen so I can't even choose console login [05:35] harolddo1g, I think your booting is a different issue. KDE has nothing to do with "booting" as such, it is just a gui. Hard to explain. Do you see your bios screen? Then Grub or your bootloader? Then any linux screen? === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [05:38] bootloader shows up fine. the problem has got to be with one of the packages I just updated, which were all kde packages. As I said once go through recovery I can console login just, like I'm doing now, but as soon as the grapical elements try and run it glitches out === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [05:40] how do you reconfigure the xserver on karmic? [05:40] My god! KDE 4.4.0 from backport screwed ALL apt!!! cannot do any updates anymore! [05:41] is there another source for 4.4 besides the backports repo? [05:42] /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs5_4%3a4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1_i386.deb brokes I relly need kdelibs and -dev [05:42] bretzel: have you tried -f with apt-get ? [05:43] the dependency problems with the 4.4 backports repo seems to boil down the packages wanting a different version of libkscreensaver than is available. without it kdeartwork and kdetoys won't update [05:43] yes that's what showed the error above [05:44] harol... : seems more than just libkscreensaver and kopte! LOTS of pkg are screwed [05:45] I even did ( useless ) apt-get upgrade -f [05:46] well I assumed somethinng was really wrong with it somewhere since updating to it ruined my ability to login graphically [05:49] Kubuntu admins/dev got horribly too fast and really screwed up our kde systems! [05:49] I am in a very stressed project development and I will have to wipeout Kubuntu isntallation! === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [05:53] I am trying to update KDE via the ppa. However I am getting 54 blocked updates. I tried installing these yesterday and borked my system. Is there anything I should do to install this? or should I just disable the ppa? [05:53] you not use kpagageit [05:53] it is terrible [05:53] use synaptic [05:53] im not [05:54] or the cli [05:54] I am using aptitude [05:54] wow [05:54] well I used synaptic and running 4.4 right now perfectly [05:54] you didn't have blocked updates? [05:54] I know I know, I would have perfererred not to install synaptic but it is the best thing going === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [05:54] no [05:55] I had the beta ppa and then added the backports ppa [05:55] thy both must be enabled [05:55] they === coaboa_ is now known as coaboa [05:56] Here is how I have the Kubuntu-ppa-backports in my sources.list: [05:56] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main [05:56] [05:57] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main [05:57] yeah I don't manually edit my source.list [05:57] no need to [05:57] is that correct? [05:57] looks fine [05:57] well I am getting 54 blocked updates [05:58] ands that is what screwed me up yesterday..So obviously I am doing something wrong [05:58] what does apt-get dsy? [05:58] say? [05:58] also I have the regular kubuntu backports enabled as well. [05:58] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:58] do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to get the latest kde [05:59] the updates are blocked because they require the installation of some new packages, not just upgrades of older ones [05:59] ok thats it.. [05:59] DUH [05:59] thanks fire [05:59] knew it [05:59] I was just trying to upgrade [05:59] thats why I said skip aptitude [05:59] I hate the new way of choosing plasma widgets [06:00] me too [06:00] is there a way to get back the old dialog-based system? === jeremy is now known as Guest43621 [06:00] i guess I will find out when it installs.. Overall I hope it is better [06:01] ooo there's a pidgin plasmoid now [06:02] oh wait thats not useful at all [06:02] at least not on my laptop [06:02] asl [06:03] asl === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [06:06] ooo there's a pidgin plasmoid now??? [06:06] well this does not bode well... kdeinit4 just segfaulted on me [06:08] ok im done installing.. Going to logout. :::Crosses fingers::: [06:29] what's the equivalent of kdebase-dev for kde3? I'm trying to compile a qt3 app (kxmleditor) and all it tells me is onfigure: error: Can't find X includes. === APERSON is now known as [crickets === [crickets is now known as APERSON === sven is now known as Guest93983 [06:51] how can i start firestarter as root without enter a password at kde-boottime? === _newbie_ is now known as RussellAlan [07:01] rethus: get rid of firestarter and use ufw/gufw [07:02] i like firestarter, has a nice - quite easy gui [07:02] and overview of all access attempts [07:03] but did u know how i can start a programm as root without every startup to enter the passwd? === AndChat is now known as Guest90464 [07:15] is it only me that get a dependency problem with kdeartwork sc 4.4 not installing (it wants kscreensaver 4:4.4.0a, but only 4:4.4.0 is available) [07:15] ? === [newbie] is now known as RussellAlan [07:17] After the upgrade to 4.4, my virtual terminals are invisible. I think it's something to do with kdm. Is there a fix for it? === Ratchet is now known as Guest40448 [07:20] e_t_, probably in kdmrc as you said. I noticed that it removed the line "ConsoleTTYs=tty1,tty2,tty3,tty4,tty5,tty6" from mine during upgrade. [07:20] you should probably have a kdmrc.dpkg-old in there so you can check what it changed [07:21] where would I find that> [07:21] ? [07:21] in /etc/kde4/kdm [07:22] e_t_, were you able to install kdeartwork (or kscreensaver) in your upgrade? [07:22] No. Aptitude wanted to downgrade it to 4.3.4 [07:22] ok [07:23] libkscreensaver is the wrong version I have the same problem [07:23] kdmrc and kdmrc.dpkg-old are substantially identical for me. [07:24] Could a kdmrc problem also be the reason my machine won't boot to a graphical login since updating to 4.4? [07:25] oh, I have to very different kdmrc files there. [07:25] harolddo1g: you've probably got the same problem I have. Can you see anything in your virtual terminals? [07:26] but I guess it added mostly comments [07:27] I can do a console login if I go through the recovery option in the boot menu and terminals work [07:29] When Kubuntu loads, the bar scrolls across the screen, the screen goes crazy with colors, then black. Then I get the spinning cursor, a flash of crazy color and I see the login screen for a second. From then on, I see only a blinking cursor, but if I type my password, it will begin logging in. Weird. [07:31] yeah I get the weird colors. it looks like an 8bit videgame gltch or something. I dont get the login for a moment like you do though.. I havent tried just typing the pass to see what happens [07:33] Once I'm logged in, everything works wonderfully. [07:35] guess I could try just typing my password [07:38] i'm trying to install 4.4 and a whole bunch of packages were "kept back" [07:38] this is getting really annoying and i wish it would explain why packages are being kept back. [07:39] jschall: use apt-get [07:39] so now a bunch of stuff is broken [07:39] jschall: because you have no idea what you are doing [07:39] darthanubis: i was using apt-get initially and it kept packages back so now i'm trying aptitude [07:39] don't blame others [07:39] use apt-get [07:39] sudo apt-get dusit-upgrade [07:39] darthanubis: ok, how? [07:39] did you do that? [07:39] there we go [07:39] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [07:39] cool, thanks! [07:40] sheesh [07:40] darthanubis: keep it friendly please. :) [07:40] np [07:40] you tell me to keep it friendly. I thought help was considered friendly? [07:40] i'm not blaming anyone. if it had a damn hint that said (try dist-upgrade) or something it would be a lot nicer [07:40] but it is my fault for not knowing that [07:40] jussi01: he was the one getting ready to rip your community a new one [07:43] darthanubis: i have no problem taking responsibility for not knowing why free software works, and i have no problem politely helping others with their issues when i know how. [07:43] by the way, why does aptitude behave differently from apt-get? [07:44] http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-vs.-aptitude-363365/ [07:45] http://pthree.org/2007/08/12/aptitude-vs-apt-get/ [07:46] jussi01: s the ops have my name on pounce huh? [07:47] darthanubis: none as far as I know, I just noticed you telling a user "because you have no idea what you are doing" which didnt seem overly friendly to me. [07:47] hmph. I suposse. [07:48] jschall: I have anger management issues. Nothing personal. [07:53] anyone know whtss up with the KDE 4.4 nepomuk indexing agent being disabled at start up? [07:57] does the tag database actually work for anybody yet in 4.4? [07:59] strigi even works yet? [08:01] nepomuk strigi was actually working fine in 4.3 if you set it up with the sesame backend. tagging and search were slow but usable. since they have gone to 4.4 and virtuso it's been pretty screwed [08:01] hmm. seems KDE 4.4 in Kubuntu is more beta than stable. runner just crashed. konsole just froze. effects are badly shot. window grouping sort of breaks the entire group :/ [08:02] I applaud the devs for trying hard to stay as up to date as possible and as fast as possible but 4.4 seems really borked :( [08:02] you get tagging to work fine but I havent been able to get the search to recognize the tag database since vituoso so its useless [08:03] loLs best not to try to hard [08:04] vbgunz: its in a PPA, you run it at your own risk ;) I assume you have restarted kde since the update? === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [08:04] its one of the coolest new kde features it's frustrating that they just can't get it to work [08:04] yeah several times I rebooted. usually I trust the ppa but I guess on something this big well, probably wasn [08:04] the brightest idea* [08:05] vbgunz: pop into #kubuntu-devel and let them know the issues, Im sure theyll try fix them if they can. [08:06] vbgunz: http://socceroosd.blogspot.com/2010/02/kubuntu-karmic-kde-44-and-nepomuk.html [08:06] hello. when kde 4.4.0 packages will be available for jaunty (http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu)? [08:06] jussi01: what is frightening is, almost everything is broken and this was pretty much a clean upgrade from 9.10. [08:06] it works fine [08:07] nothing is broken [08:07] it is all user error [08:07] relax [08:07] darthanubis: again, not so friendly ;) [08:07] matter of opinion I guess [08:08] I'd find it friendly to know my software was not garbage, and that I was overlooking something [08:08] Something I could fix and was given a link to by some anonymous who did not have to [08:08] i find that extremely friendly [08:09] I don't talk down to peopel [08:09] seems to the ubuntu way is to assume people are idiots with the emotional maturity level of 12yr olds [08:10] darthanubis: no joke. im not kidding. I just did a fresh install of the root partition. updated, dist-upgraded, enabled the ppa, did another update and dist-upgrade. so many things are broken. I been using k/ubuntu for years. this is pretty much out of the box experience. so many things aren't working like they should. just doesn't seem stable. more beta if anything :( [08:10] but, that is a matter of opinion as well [08:10] vbgunz: that is strange [08:11] vbgunz: I just upgraded from RC2 a few hours ago, and all is stable [08:11] im gonna try that virtuoso walkthrough from the blog link [08:11] jussi01: see, he is not crying. Why don't you at least wait til someone is offended? [08:12] hello, I have a problem with amarok after upgrading to 4.4, whenever I start the amarok, it crashes and I read a solution that I should disable aoutamtic cover fetching but how can I disable it? [08:12] vbgunz: it is really just a matter of deleting the nepomuk folder [08:12] but since you clean installed that should not be an issue [08:12] fincan: it is in the options of course [08:13] darthanubis: in amarok? [08:13] thats what you asked about? [08:14] the options of the discussed program yes [08:14] darthanubis: but amarok craches too fast before I can reach options :) [08:14] not that sucks [08:14] now [08:14] delete amaroks folder === Rav3nSw0rd is now known as Nev3rM0re [08:15] gonna try and see whats up, brb [08:17] amarok no longer plays sound [08:17] make some noise [08:18] weird neither is juk [08:18] what did I do? [08:19] HI there. I've got kubuntu backports ppa, and it shows me that i've got 78updates and 55 blocked updates of KDE 4.4. What should i do? === Nev3rM0re is now known as Rav3nSw0rd [08:19] dist-upgrade? [08:20] still get the nepomuk agent disabled notification. following the steps on the blog and trying to mv the nepomuk folder into a backup. [08:20] Bonst4r should I? [08:20] yea [08:20] update then dist-upgrade [08:21] vbgunz: I persobnally scraped the whole neomuk dir [08:21] Ok, it will not broke anything?:D [08:21] dont think so [08:21] there are no guarantees [08:21] but it is how ppl are upgrading [08:21] OK, will try ;) [08:22] well [08:22]