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bdmurrayI noticed that the official tags applet was talking a long time to load fwiw00:22
poolieis the mp-to-pqm thing at all reusable for bzr?00:27
pooliejml^?00:27
pooliebdmurray: 'portlet' fwiw00:27
bdmurraypoolie: right!00:28
micahglp admins...can we block a user that keeps adding tasks/assignments to bugs?00:50
spmmicahg: only as a last resort; which user/examples?00:50
micahgspm: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntunerd-nospammail00:51
spmnice name there...00:51
micahgspm: I have a few bug examples00:51
spmI can probably get from the history00:52
micahgyeah00:52
spmhuh, that reads to me - positive spin - like someone is trying to be helpful, but in an irritating to everyone else way00:55
micahgspm: yes, but unless we can communicate and train, the user will just annoy...00:56
spmheh, using a variant of patches accepted; be my guest to contact them and train ;-)00:56
spmI'm guesing that ubuntu has some docs on what bug triargers etc do/how style of thing?00:57
micahgspm: user hasn't responded to email00:57
micahgspm: how long do I have to wait?00:57
spmin? what time period was the email sent?00:58
micahgspm: I think last night00:58
micahg24 hrs ago00:58
spmhrm00:58
spmI'll send an email via the contact user pointing them here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/ and mentioning that assigning folks to bugs is not polite; pls to be considerate of changing bug statusus as that can create unnecessary work for those that are trying to fix them ???01:00
spmsound fair?01:00
spmif that fails, then we'll look at a larger hammer.01:01
spmactually https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs would be better01:01
micahgspm: k, I sent an e-mail but w/out the link and a reference to the bugs channel01:01
micahgspm: let's try it01:01
spmso some duplication...01:02
* micahg doesn't like the idea of banning people either01:02
spmheh; no. we want to channel the enthusiasm down a useful path; not turn it off :-)01:02
spmmicahg: and sent. With any luck the email from a semi-irrelevant "authority" may have some impact; it seems to have had in other like cases. :-/01:08
micahgspm: k, thanks :)01:08
spmit's depressing you know; I'm having to use my LART for good; not the usual sysadmin evil. horrible.....01:09
micahgspm: lol01:09
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pooliethumper, which branches come up when you propose a merge?05:17
thumperfor lp?05:17
pooliei mean, which ones are offered as the main options?05:17
wgrantDev focus and any that you've merged to before, isn't it?05:17
thumperdevelopment focus, and other branches you've targetted before05:17
* thumper is running to the shops05:17
pooliehm05:18
poolieyou can't get them off once they're there?05:18
wgrantDoesn't look like it.05:18
wgrantCursed forever.05:18
micahgit's getting difficult with these imported bugwatches for non-task bugs.06:19
thumperpoolie, wgrant: sure we could, we just change the query to only look at branches you've proposed in the last 3 months say.  Please file a bug07:09
pooliethumper: i guess it's also a bit surprising because generally speaking launchpad doesn't use the pattern of suggesting things you used recently07:31
pooliethough i wish it would07:31
poolieeg for bug assignees07:31
mgolischcan the software behind launchpad be downloaded? id like to have something like that for at work08:54
thumpermgolisch: lp:launchpad, although there is quite a bit to it08:57
thumpermgolisch: and the icons are copyright canonical still08:57
thumpermgolisch: see the dev wiki at dev.launchpad.net for how to get it running locally08:57
mgolischthx08:59
nigelbwgrant, are you around?10:28
wgrantnigelb: I am.10:29
nigelbwgrant, we have another spammer now, as me and kermiac were discusing in bugs10:29
nigelbis it feasible to have an option to undo all the changes by a particular user?10:29
nigelbCan I log a feature request against it? Is it technically possible?10:30
nigelb(to make all the db changes)10:30
wgrantnigelb: I'm not a Launchpad dev, so I am probably not the best to talk to about that.10:30
nigelbwgrant, oh! I thought you were :)10:30
geserOOPS-1503EC640 and OOPS-1503ED425 happened when I tried to file a bug through the LP API10:30
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1503EC64010:30
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1503ED42510:30
kermiacis this the right channel to have someone ban a user in LP?10:39
kermiachttps://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/10068210:40
kermiacI'm not the only one that has been effected by this user changing things. We've been discussing it in #ubuntu-bugs & at least 2 of the devs in #ubuntu-desktop are very annoyed by what he has been doing10:41
kermiacs/effected/affected10:41
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sinzuikermiac: I can suspend him and leave a note about it.12:21
chrisccoulsonsinzui: i think kermiac is afk now, but thanks for suspending the account12:28
sinzuichrisccoulson: I sent a en email to the user and demanded that he reply in the next 48 hours, or I will suspend him.12:29
chrisccoulsonsinzui: thanks, that's appreciated12:29
nigel_nbthanks sinzui, much appreciated :)12:31
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micahggmb: any chance of getting the reliable bug syncing fixed?13:31
gmbmicahg: You mean the launchpad-dumbly-links-everything bug? (Which I touched this morning but can't remember the nubmer of off the top of my head)?13:32
micahggmb: yes :)13:32
micahgbug 49911313:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 499113 in malone "Launchpad will sync comments and link back to all bug watches, even those not linked to a bug task" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49911313:33
gmbAh, yes.13:33
gmbmicahg: Let me just take a looksie at it; if it doesn't break too many tests I might be able to fix that today.13:33
micahggmb: that would be wonderful :)13:33
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micahggmb: is the only way to delete watches with comments by an admin right now?13:35
gmbmicahg: Yes.13:36
micahggmb: k, I assume that would be a hard one to fix, right?13:37
gmbmicahg: What, making it possible for anyone to delete those watches?13:37
gmbOr at least their comments?13:37
micahggmb: I guess so...I need to go clean up the mozilla bugs both upstream and in LP :)13:37
micahgnot today obviously13:38
gmbmicahg: Well, once my fix is in place - which may be today but probably not because we've got to roll it out to the production server that does the linking - you can clean up the mozilla bugzilla.13:39
gmbAnd I'll write a script to find the offending comments and remove / hide them.13:39
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micahggmb: ooh, that would be great, thanks :)13:40
gmbmicahg: Okay, I'll add a note to the bug.13:40
micahggmb: there's one exception though (not trying to be complicated), if upstream is marked a dupe and people reply through LP?13:41
gmbmicahg: Sorry, can you clarify that for me... the upstream watched bug (on b.m.o) is marked as a dupe, but people are replying through LP?13:42
micahggmb: yes, people replied through LP before it was marked a dupe...when an upstream bug is marked a dupe, we change the bugwatch to the new bug....13:42
gmbAh, right.13:43
micahgshouldn't be too many as this is new functionality...13:43
gmbmicahg: But the watch is valid now, right? It's not a case of a spurious link having comment syncing done on it or something?13:43
micahggmb: let's assume it's valid now13:43
micahgthe other use case of what to do with comments imported when a watch changes, we can deal with later13:44
gmbmicahg: Okay. Can you give me an example of one of these bugs?13:46
micahgbug 51261513:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51261513:47
micahgpeople in LP are even getting confused and ignoring the bug task now :)13:47
gmbmicahg: So, which is the *invalid* mozilla bugwatch on that bug? After my fix lands we'll only sync with mozilla-bugs #404637. We can hide any comments on other bugs except those with responses, if you want.13:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 404637 in bleachbit "bleachbit release upgrade request" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40463713:51
micahggmb: yes13:52
gmbmicahg: Right. That's what we'll do then.13:52
micahgthe other ones are related, but I don't think we should pull in everything13:52
gmbmicahg: No, we shouldn't. Well, the bug is that we pull in everything regardless. So, to fix that we'll only pull in from those watches linked to a bug task. We can maybe work to expand that later, but I don't have a way to fix that right now. This part of the fix is simple.13:53
micahggmb: yep, and as a developer I know to take what I can get :)13:55
gmbmicahg: :)13:55
sebnerheya folks! Anyone an idea about http://paste.ubuntu.com/373384/ ? (Upload/sync of alien-arena) First thought was that dpkg is buggy but explicitly adding quilt b-d also doesn't fix it14:00
persiaNote that the package concerned fails to unpack in a lucid --variant=buildd chroot unless quilt is manually installed.14:00
persiaBut lucid sbuild can build it just fine in a --variant=buildd chroot if quilt is set as a build-dep.14:01
sebnerFails with LP, PPA, local lucid pbuilder. Works extracting the source manually with dpkg-source and pbuilder sid14:01
wgrantsebner: That's an #ubuntu-devel question, then.14:08
wgrantIf it's broken in Lucid without LP in the mix...14:08
persiawgrant: Well, we found a workaround that solved it for local lucid, but not for PPAs, which is what brought us here.14:08
wgrantpersia: It's a dpkg or package bug.14:09
persiaSpecifically, lucid has an old version of dpkg, but for local sbuild, adding a build-dep on quilt seems to work around the issue.14:09
persiaYes,  It's a bug in dpkg that it behaves differently when quilt is/isn't installed.  The confusing bit is why the workaround that works for local sbuild doesn't work for PPAs.14:10
wgrantThe build-depends are read from debian/contorl.14:11
wgrantThat's in the unpacked package.14:11
wgrantYou cannot have special unpack-time dependencies.14:11
persiaHrm.  In that case, I don't understand why it works with local sbuild.14:11
persiaBut that does make sense, I guess we can't work around the dpkg bug that way :)14:11
persiaThanks.14:11
wgrantOh, so it actually works if you just add a build dependency?14:12
persiaFor local sbuild, yes.14:12
sebnerwgrant: local pbuilder (lucid) build works now too btw. PPA not!14:14
wgrantHm, actually, it looks like it should work.14:15
wgrantDo you have a build log?14:15
wgrantOhhh.14:15
wgrantI know.14:15
wgrantIt's rejected at upload time, isn't it?14:15
wgrantNot build time?14:15
sebnerwgrant: ay14:16
sebnere14:16
sebnerRejected:14:16
sebnerdpkg-source failed for alien-arena_7.33-2ubuntu1.dsc [return: 2]14:16
sebner[dpkg-source output:   dpkg-source: info: extracting alien-arena in alien-arena-7.3314:16
sebner  dpkg-source: info: unpacking alien-arena_7.33.orig.tar.gz14:16
sebner  dpkg-source: info: unpacking alien-arena_7.33-2ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz14:16
sebner  dpkg-source: info: applying launch-server_tool_debianization.patch]14:16
wgrantIt's because the uploader unpacks it.14:16
sebnerwgrant: so the uploader is buggy?14:16
wgrantA fixed dpkg is needed on cocoplum and germanium.14:16
wgrantNo.14:16
wgrantIt's not buggy.14:16
wgrantdpkg is.14:16
sebnerdpkg always is *muahahaha*14:17
wgrantUnless somebody declares that you have to install build dependencies to unpack a package, in which case the world is broken and just about impossible to fix.14:17
persiaNo, dpkg is buggy.  We were just trying to work around it.  Needs a merge.  I think cjwatson indicated that one was planned.14:17
persiasebner: -> #ubuntu-devel :)14:18
wgrantOnce it's in Lucid the buildds will be fixed, but it needs to be pushed to other places too before uploads can actually be accepted :/14:19
persiawgrant: Well, we'll come back once it's in lucid :)14:19
gmbmicahg: So, bad news: making that one line change to fix bug 499113 breaks 13 different tests in all kinds of horrible ways, so it's unlikely I can land a fix for it today. I'll take another look later today if I've got time, see if the tests are trivial to fix, but I can't devote the time to it right now.14:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 499113 in malone "Launchpad will sync comments and link back to all bug watches, even those not linked to a bug task" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49911314:32
micahggmb: ok, will you be on tomorrow?    I might have a little time to help14:33
exarkunAny way to remove other people's branches from http://code.launchpad.net/<project> yet?14:33
exarkunOr heck, how do you even remove your own branch from that page without merging it into something else?14:34
maxbYou could change the branch status to Abandoned14:34
gmbmicahg: Yes, I'll be around from 09:00 - 17:00 UTC.14:34
exarkunmaxb: And for the former?14:35
micahggmb: great :)14:35
maxbNo, there is no way for project owners to control the status of other people's branches of their project14:36
nijabaHello.  Is there a known pb with OpenID?  Can't login to some web site using my https://launchpad.net/~your_nickname url.14:46
salgadonijaba, some users complained about it a few days ago but it turned out to be a problem on the other side.  yours might be similar.  bac, do you remember the bug # for the OpenID login failing on blogger.com?14:49
bacsalgado: otp.  give me a sec14:49
nijabasalgado: it's really weird, I have now checked on 4 sites, 2 work, 2 do not...14:50
salgadonijaba, bug 449105 is the one I was talking about14:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 449105 in launchpad-foundations "logging into sourceforge with openid breaks" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/44910514:58
nijabasalgado: ok; I'll look into it, thanks14:58
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maxbLOSAs: Loggerhead seems unhappy. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jelmer/meta-lp-deps/debian/changes  -->  "Internal Server Error"15:08
bacsalgado-lunch: this is the similar bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/44910515:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 449105 in launchpad-foundations "logging into sourceforge with openid breaks" [High,Invalid]15:09
bacsalgado-lunch: a new bug specifically for blogger was not opened since it is the same issue and appears to not be our fault15:09
Chexmaxb: looking, thanks15:10
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jlduponthi - just curious: are there any LP badge that show up the Karma points?15:14
Chexmaxb: I think loggerhead is ok, this url checks out fine: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/busybox/main/changes15:20
maxbChex: But the one I gave doesn't15:24
Chexmaxb: yes thats true, I will need to invegstigate further, but I just meant it doesn't seem like a general service issue.15:25
maxbI agree, it doesn't affect all branches15:25
tmowhi all15:45
tmowis lp down? I'm not sure I have network issues or if it's lp15:45
oojahtmow: Looks ok for me (in the UK)15:46
tmowI don't know how to troubleshoot... which is the server name and the port?15:46
tmowoojah: thx15:46
tmowbzr uses env variables to use a proxy server... the proxy server is correctly set, i'm using it with other apps...15:51
tmowbut bzr fails to connect to lp with errno 11115:52
tmowconnection refused...15:52
tmowanybody as an idea please?15:52
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desrthi guys15:54
desrthttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/vfat-noexec15:54
desrtRegistered by Ryan Lortie on 5 minutes ago15:54
desrtpretty trivial fix, i guess15:54
persiadesrt: Which are you hoping to accomplish about the blueprint?15:58
desrtjust pointing out that "on 5 minutes ago" isn't grammatically correct15:58
desrta bug in launchpad15:58
persiaaha!15:59
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lfaraonedoctormo: have you considered merging python-xdgapp with upstream python-xdg?16:12
doctormolfaraone: Yes, because the way xdg positions it's self as a class wrapper for application interactions with xdg, it didn't seem right.16:14
lfaraonedoctormo: well, POX uploaded python-xdgapp to Debian NEW. Once it's accepted, I'll get an archive admin to sync it over.16:18
doctormolfaraone: That sounds good, I don't know what it means, but it sounds like progress :-) thank you16:18
lfaraonedoctormo: okay. in a day or so, python-xdgapp will have been accepted into the Debian "unstable" repository. From there, we can import it into Ubuntu's lucid with only a bug report and an ACK by a motu.16:19
doctormolfaraone: Sounds great, thanks very much for pushing at it16:23
Fenix|workGreetings...16:30
Fenix|work... how does one get Launchpad?16:31
Fenix|work(to install locally)16:31
oojahFenix|work: See https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting16:33
Fenix|workThanks.16:33
Fenix|workAlso, is there any way to import from bugzilla into Launchpad?16:34
persiaFenix|work: Yes, but I believe it's something one requests with a question.16:36
Fenix|worka question where?16:37
jpdsFenix|work: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad16:37
Fenix|workAhh, thank you.  I've enjoyed launchpad with other projects and with Ubuntu and am happy it's now OS, so I'm new to this aspect of the launchpad website.16:38
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Laneyhow would one go about getting a PPA which builds for ia64?18:09
maxbAFAIK it's just a setting by a Launchpad admin, such that builds happen on the Ubuntu buildfarm instead of the PPA one, but I've no idea who is empowered to authorize that.18:12
maxbYou could ask doko, who has one, to tell you who to ask18:12
cjohnstonIs the LP mailing list system still in beta?18:13
* Laney will ping the help contact. mwhudson ^^^ ?18:13
LaneyI could just upload to -release ;)18:18
persiaLaney: I think you need to ask a question, but uploading seems more common.  I also think directhex has one if you need a test-build.18:26
Laneythat is really all I want18:28
Laneythe problem is that this is ghc, and uploading would be Bad News18:29
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persiaLaney: Indeed.18:33
persiaYou might also ask in -motu or -devel for other people with hardware.18:33
LaneyI really want to know if this will work when I upload it18:34
Laneythere have been problems in Debian with this working on porterboxes but not on the buildds18:34
Laneyi'll do a launchpad question18:35
persiaLaney: I think you'll get a faster response asking for people with hardware, but OK :)18:37
Laneypersia: I really do want to test it on a buildd though :(18:38
persiaShouldn't be that different, but yeah, I understand.18:38
LaneyI reckon this is one of those cases where a difference is more likely to cause problems18:40
Laneythe experience in tweaking the build for all of Debian's weird architectures shows that ghc is pretty sensitive18:40
persiaAnd you think the buildd sbuild is going to behave sufficiently differently?18:44
Laneypersia: That was the case when the Debian maintainer tried, I believe18:48
LaneyI just want to be very careful with ghc18:48
persiaMakes sense.18:48
lfaraonepersia: would you happen to know anybody else I could bug about reviewing groundcontrol? 1.4 is now in REVU, and the "clean" is now fixed.18:49
Laney#ubuntu-motu please18:49
persialfaraone: Don't bug people.  Bug teams.18:49
lfaraoneLaney: sorry, my apologies.18:49
persialfaraone: So, ask in -motu, or ask here (but -motu is likely to have more reviewers).18:49
Laneyno problem18:49
persiaLaney: This channel has had a lot of ground-control upstream talk, so it's not entirely off-topic (as ground-control is so tightly linked to launchpad)18:50
Laneyalright (I have no idea what that is)18:50
persiaMind you, I might be wrong about that.18:50
persiaFrom what I can tell, it's a tool that provides a GUI wrapper for managing LP projects & branches.18:51
I-Blocklist624Hello, there is a translation that wont confirm, is an admin here than can take alook and maybe check the database to see why?19:02
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micahgspm: Gerry C is still at it19:37
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lifelessChex: around ?20:21
lifelessmicahg: too earliy for spm20:21
lifelessmicahg: whats the users ~NAME ?20:24
bdmurraylifeless: ubuntunerd-nospammail20:24
lifelessmbarnett: ^20:25
mbarnettlifeless:  it is just me right now and i am pretty slammed, won't be able to take a look for a few minutes20:25
mbarnetthopefully... longer if deploys keep blowing up20:26
lifelessmbarnett: sure, just passing the info across as I get it.20:26
mbarnettlifeless: thx20:26
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geserthere is also an open question about this user: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/10068220:38
lifelessgeser: same user; we're pending mbarnett putting out some other fires20:41
tdnLaunchpad keeps giving me timeout when replying to a question on Answers. What gives?20:45
tdnOh. Now it went through.20:47
pooliehey20:56
lifelessho20:56
poolieis there any public spec or bug for the +patches work that i can point to?20:56
pooliekfogel: ^^?20:56
kfogelpoolie: bug #506018 links to the public specs20:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 506018 in malone "Need a "+patches" view: report lists patches attached to bugs." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50601820:57
pooliethanks20:57
pooliethis is not deployed yet, right?20:58
kfogelpoolie: see also any bugs tagged with "story-patch-report".  right now I'm working on bug #25586820:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 255868 in malone "Project summary page should show links to patches" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25586820:58
wgrantlifeless: It doesn't actually require a LOSA.21:15
lifelesswgrant: I did not knowthat :)21:18
wgrantlifeless: ~registry (eg. CHR) is sufficient these days.21:19
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Lord-Readmanhow come a translation import is approved, but not imported?22:12
MTecknologyIs it possible to make any questions that were marked answered for a long time to be marked as solved?22:20
MTecknologyoh.. and how do I mark one question as a duplicate of another?22:25
micahganyone around who knows about the LP -> bugzilla bug syncing?22:57
seb128hey23:09
seb128https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/10068223:09
seb128could somebody don't wait for this guy to keep messing with bugs for day to do desactive the account on launchpad?23:10
seb128being nice is one thing23:10
seb128but letting somebody create extra work for lot of people is another thing...23:10

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