[00:22] I noticed that the official tags applet was talking a long time to load fwiw [00:27] is the mp-to-pqm thing at all reusable for bzr? [00:27] jml^? [00:27] bdmurray: 'portlet' fwiw [00:28] poolie: right! [00:50] lp admins...can we block a user that keeps adding tasks/assignments to bugs? [00:50] micahg: only as a last resort; which user/examples? [00:51] spm: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntunerd-nospammail [00:51] nice name there... [00:51] spm: I have a few bug examples [00:52] I can probably get from the history [00:52] yeah [00:55] huh, that reads to me - positive spin - like someone is trying to be helpful, but in an irritating to everyone else way [00:56] spm: yes, but unless we can communicate and train, the user will just annoy... [00:56] heh, using a variant of patches accepted; be my guest to contact them and train ;-) [00:57] I'm guesing that ubuntu has some docs on what bug triargers etc do/how style of thing? [00:57] spm: user hasn't responded to email [00:57] spm: how long do I have to wait? [00:58] in? what time period was the email sent? [00:58] spm: I think last night [00:58] 24 hrs ago [00:58] hrm [01:00] I'll send an email via the contact user pointing them here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/ and mentioning that assigning folks to bugs is not polite; pls to be considerate of changing bug statusus as that can create unnecessary work for those that are trying to fix them ??? [01:00] sound fair? [01:01] if that fails, then we'll look at a larger hammer. [01:01] actually https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs would be better [01:01] spm: k, I sent an e-mail but w/out the link and a reference to the bugs channel [01:01] spm: let's try it [01:02] so some duplication... [01:02] * micahg doesn't like the idea of banning people either [01:02] heh; no. we want to channel the enthusiasm down a useful path; not turn it off :-) [01:08] micahg: and sent. With any luck the email from a semi-irrelevant "authority" may have some impact; it seems to have had in other like cases. :-/ [01:08] spm: k, thanks :) [01:09] it's depressing you know; I'm having to use my LART for good; not the usual sysadmin evil. horrible..... [01:09] spm: lol === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === jamesh_ is now known as jamesh === persia` is now known as persia === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [05:17] thumper, which branches come up when you propose a merge? [05:17] for lp? [05:17] i mean, which ones are offered as the main options? [05:17] Dev focus and any that you've merged to before, isn't it? [05:17] development focus, and other branches you've targetted before [05:17] * thumper is running to the shops [05:18] hm [05:18] you can't get them off once they're there? [05:18] Doesn't look like it. [05:18] Cursed forever. [06:19] it's getting difficult with these imported bugwatches for non-task bugs. [07:09] poolie, wgrant: sure we could, we just change the query to only look at branches you've proposed in the last 3 months say. Please file a bug [07:31] thumper: i guess it's also a bit surprising because generally speaking launchpad doesn't use the pattern of suggesting things you used recently [07:31] though i wish it would [07:31] eg for bug assignees [08:54] can the software behind launchpad be downloaded? id like to have something like that for at work [08:57] mgolisch: lp:launchpad, although there is quite a bit to it [08:57] mgolisch: and the icons are copyright canonical still [08:57] mgolisch: see the dev wiki at dev.launchpad.net for how to get it running locally [08:59] thx [10:28] wgrant, are you around? [10:29] nigelb: I am. [10:29] wgrant, we have another spammer now, as me and kermiac were discusing in bugs [10:29] is it feasible to have an option to undo all the changes by a particular user? [10:30] Can I log a feature request against it? Is it technically possible? [10:30] (to make all the db changes) [10:30] nigelb: I'm not a Launchpad dev, so I am probably not the best to talk to about that. [10:30] wgrant, oh! I thought you were :) [10:30] OOPS-1503EC640 and OOPS-1503ED425 happened when I tried to file a bug through the LP API [10:30] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1503EC640 [10:30] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1503ED425 [10:39] is this the right channel to have someone ban a user in LP? [10:40] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/100682 [10:41] I'm not the only one that has been effected by this user changing things. We've been discussing it in #ubuntu-bugs & at least 2 of the devs in #ubuntu-desktop are very annoyed by what he has been doing [10:41] s/effected/affected === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [12:21] kermiac: I can suspend him and leave a note about it. [12:28] sinzui: i think kermiac is afk now, but thanks for suspending the account [12:29] chrisccoulson: I sent a en email to the user and demanded that he reply in the next 48 hours, or I will suspend him. [12:29] sinzui: thanks, that's appreciated [12:31] thanks sinzui, much appreciated :) === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch [13:31] gmb: any chance of getting the reliable bug syncing fixed? [13:32] micahg: You mean the launchpad-dumbly-links-everything bug? (Which I touched this morning but can't remember the nubmer of off the top of my head)? [13:32] gmb: yes :) [13:33] bug 499113 [13:33] Launchpad bug 499113 in malone "Launchpad will sync comments and link back to all bug watches, even those not linked to a bug task" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499113 [13:33] Ah, yes. [13:33] micahg: Let me just take a looksie at it; if it doesn't break too many tests I might be able to fix that today. [13:33] gmb: that would be wonderful :) === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:35] gmb: is the only way to delete watches with comments by an admin right now? [13:36] micahg: Yes. [13:37] gmb: k, I assume that would be a hard one to fix, right? [13:37] micahg: What, making it possible for anyone to delete those watches? [13:37] Or at least their comments? [13:37] gmb: I guess so...I need to go clean up the mozilla bugs both upstream and in LP :) [13:38] not today obviously [13:39] micahg: Well, once my fix is in place - which may be today but probably not because we've got to roll it out to the production server that does the linking - you can clean up the mozilla bugzilla. [13:39] And I'll write a script to find the offending comments and remove / hide them. === nik0 is now known as niko [13:40] gmb: ooh, that would be great, thanks :) [13:40] micahg: Okay, I'll add a note to the bug. [13:41] gmb: there's one exception though (not trying to be complicated), if upstream is marked a dupe and people reply through LP? [13:42] micahg: Sorry, can you clarify that for me... the upstream watched bug (on b.m.o) is marked as a dupe, but people are replying through LP? [13:42] gmb: yes, people replied through LP before it was marked a dupe...when an upstream bug is marked a dupe, we change the bugwatch to the new bug.... [13:43] Ah, right. [13:43] shouldn't be too many as this is new functionality... [13:43] micahg: But the watch is valid now, right? It's not a case of a spurious link having comment syncing done on it or something? [13:43] gmb: let's assume it's valid now [13:44] the other use case of what to do with comments imported when a watch changes, we can deal with later [13:46] micahg: Okay. Can you give me an example of one of these bugs? [13:47] bug 512615 [13:47] Launchpad bug 512615 in firefox "fonts are incorrectly rendered due to not using system cairo" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/512615 [13:47] people in LP are even getting confused and ignoring the bug task now :) [13:51] micahg: So, which is the *invalid* mozilla bugwatch on that bug? After my fix lands we'll only sync with mozilla-bugs #404637. We can hide any comments on other bugs except those with responses, if you want. [13:51] Launchpad bug 404637 in bleachbit "bleachbit release upgrade request" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/404637 [13:52] gmb: yes [13:52] micahg: Right. That's what we'll do then. [13:52] the other ones are related, but I don't think we should pull in everything [13:53] micahg: No, we shouldn't. Well, the bug is that we pull in everything regardless. So, to fix that we'll only pull in from those watches linked to a bug task. We can maybe work to expand that later, but I don't have a way to fix that right now. This part of the fix is simple. [13:55] gmb: yep, and as a developer I know to take what I can get :) [13:55] micahg: :) [14:00] heya folks! Anyone an idea about http://paste.ubuntu.com/373384/ ? (Upload/sync of alien-arena) First thought was that dpkg is buggy but explicitly adding quilt b-d also doesn't fix it [14:00] Note that the package concerned fails to unpack in a lucid --variant=buildd chroot unless quilt is manually installed. [14:01] But lucid sbuild can build it just fine in a --variant=buildd chroot if quilt is set as a build-dep. [14:01] Fails with LP, PPA, local lucid pbuilder. Works extracting the source manually with dpkg-source and pbuilder sid [14:08] sebner: That's an #ubuntu-devel question, then. [14:08] If it's broken in Lucid without LP in the mix... [14:08] wgrant: Well, we found a workaround that solved it for local lucid, but not for PPAs, which is what brought us here. [14:09] persia: It's a dpkg or package bug. [14:09] Specifically, lucid has an old version of dpkg, but for local sbuild, adding a build-dep on quilt seems to work around the issue. [14:10] Yes, It's a bug in dpkg that it behaves differently when quilt is/isn't installed. The confusing bit is why the workaround that works for local sbuild doesn't work for PPAs. [14:11] The build-depends are read from debian/contorl. [14:11] That's in the unpacked package. [14:11] You cannot have special unpack-time dependencies. [14:11] Hrm. In that case, I don't understand why it works with local sbuild. [14:11] But that does make sense, I guess we can't work around the dpkg bug that way :) [14:11] Thanks. [14:12] Oh, so it actually works if you just add a build dependency? [14:12] For local sbuild, yes. [14:14] wgrant: local pbuilder (lucid) build works now too btw. PPA not! [14:15] Hm, actually, it looks like it should work. [14:15] Do you have a build log? [14:15] Ohhh. [14:15] I know. [14:15] It's rejected at upload time, isn't it? [14:15] Not build time? [14:16] wgrant: ay [14:16] e [14:16] Rejected: [14:16] dpkg-source failed for alien-arena_7.33-2ubuntu1.dsc [return: 2] [14:16] [dpkg-source output: dpkg-source: info: extracting alien-arena in alien-arena-7.33 [14:16] dpkg-source: info: unpacking alien-arena_7.33.orig.tar.gz [14:16] dpkg-source: info: unpacking alien-arena_7.33-2ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz [14:16] dpkg-source: info: applying launch-server_tool_debianization.patch] [14:16] It's because the uploader unpacks it. [14:16] wgrant: so the uploader is buggy? [14:16] A fixed dpkg is needed on cocoplum and germanium. [14:16] No. [14:16] It's not buggy. [14:16] dpkg is. [14:17] dpkg always is *muahahaha* [14:17] Unless somebody declares that you have to install build dependencies to unpack a package, in which case the world is broken and just about impossible to fix. [14:17] No, dpkg is buggy. We were just trying to work around it. Needs a merge. I think cjwatson indicated that one was planned. [14:18] sebner: -> #ubuntu-devel :) [14:19] Once it's in Lucid the buildds will be fixed, but it needs to be pushed to other places too before uploads can actually be accepted :/ [14:19] wgrant: Well, we'll come back once it's in lucid :) [14:32] micahg: So, bad news: making that one line change to fix bug 499113 breaks 13 different tests in all kinds of horrible ways, so it's unlikely I can land a fix for it today. I'll take another look later today if I've got time, see if the tests are trivial to fix, but I can't devote the time to it right now. [14:32] Launchpad bug 499113 in malone "Launchpad will sync comments and link back to all bug watches, even those not linked to a bug task" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499113 [14:33] gmb: ok, will you be on tomorrow? I might have a little time to help [14:33] Any way to remove other people's branches from http://code.launchpad.net/ yet? [14:34] Or heck, how do you even remove your own branch from that page without merging it into something else? [14:34] You could change the branch status to Abandoned [14:34] micahg: Yes, I'll be around from 09:00 - 17:00 UTC. [14:35] maxb: And for the former? [14:35] gmb: great :) [14:36] No, there is no way for project owners to control the status of other people's branches of their project [14:46] Hello. Is there a known pb with OpenID? Can't login to some web site using my https://launchpad.net/~your_nickname url. [14:49] nijaba, some users complained about it a few days ago but it turned out to be a problem on the other side. yours might be similar. bac, do you remember the bug # for the OpenID login failing on blogger.com? [14:49] salgado: otp. give me a sec [14:50] salgado: it's really weird, I have now checked on 4 sites, 2 work, 2 do not... [14:58] nijaba, bug 449105 is the one I was talking about [14:58] Launchpad bug 449105 in launchpad-foundations "logging into sourceforge with openid breaks" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/449105 [14:58] salgado: ok; I'll look into it, thanks === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [15:08] LOSAs: Loggerhead seems unhappy. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jelmer/meta-lp-deps/debian/changes --> "Internal Server Error" [15:09] salgado-lunch: this is the similar bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/canonical-identity-provider/+bug/449105 [15:09] Ubuntu bug 449105 in launchpad-foundations "logging into sourceforge with openid breaks" [High,Invalid] [15:09] salgado-lunch: a new bug specifically for blogger was not opened since it is the same issue and appears to not be our fault [15:10] maxb: looking, thanks === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [15:14] hi - just curious: are there any LP badge that show up the Karma points? [15:20] maxb: I think loggerhead is ok, this url checks out fine: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/busybox/main/changes [15:24] Chex: But the one I gave doesn't [15:25] maxb: yes thats true, I will need to invegstigate further, but I just meant it doesn't seem like a general service issue. [15:25] I agree, it doesn't affect all branches [15:45] hi all [15:45] is lp down? I'm not sure I have network issues or if it's lp [15:46] tmow: Looks ok for me (in the UK) [15:46] I don't know how to troubleshoot... which is the server name and the port? [15:46] oojah: thx [15:51] bzr uses env variables to use a proxy server... the proxy server is correctly set, i'm using it with other apps... [15:52] but bzr fails to connect to lp with errno 111 [15:52] connection refused... [15:52] anybody as an idea please? === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [15:54] hi guys [15:54] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/vfat-noexec [15:54] Registered by Ryan Lortie on 5 minutes ago [15:54] pretty trivial fix, i guess [15:58] desrt: Which are you hoping to accomplish about the blueprint? [15:58] just pointing out that "on 5 minutes ago" isn't grammatically correct [15:58] a bug in launchpad [15:59] aha! === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [16:12] doctormo: have you considered merging python-xdgapp with upstream python-xdg? [16:14] lfaraone: Yes, because the way xdg positions it's self as a class wrapper for application interactions with xdg, it didn't seem right. [16:18] doctormo: well, POX uploaded python-xdgapp to Debian NEW. Once it's accepted, I'll get an archive admin to sync it over. [16:18] lfaraone: That sounds good, I don't know what it means, but it sounds like progress :-) thank you [16:19] doctormo: okay. in a day or so, python-xdgapp will have been accepted into the Debian "unstable" repository. From there, we can import it into Ubuntu's lucid with only a bug report and an ACK by a motu. [16:23] lfaraone: Sounds great, thanks very much for pushing at it [16:30] Greetings... [16:31] ... how does one get Launchpad? [16:31] (to install locally) [16:33] Fenix|work: See https://dev.launchpad.net/Getting [16:33] Thanks. [16:34] Also, is there any way to import from bugzilla into Launchpad? [16:36] Fenix|work: Yes, but I believe it's something one requests with a question. [16:37] a question where? [16:37] Fenix|work: answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [16:38] Ahh, thank you. I've enjoyed launchpad with other projects and with Ubuntu and am happy it's now OS, so I'm new to this aspect of the launchpad website. === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [18:09] how would one go about getting a PPA which builds for ia64? [18:12] AFAIK it's just a setting by a Launchpad admin, such that builds happen on the Ubuntu buildfarm instead of the PPA one, but I've no idea who is empowered to authorize that. [18:12] You could ask doko, who has one, to tell you who to ask [18:13] Is the LP mailing list system still in beta? [18:13] * Laney will ping the help contact. mwhudson ^^^ ? [18:18] I could just upload to -release ;) [18:26] Laney: I think you need to ask a question, but uploading seems more common. I also think directhex has one if you need a test-build. [18:28] that is really all I want [18:29] the problem is that this is ghc, and uploading would be Bad News === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo [18:33] Laney: Indeed. [18:33] You might also ask in -motu or -devel for other people with hardware. [18:34] I really want to know if this will work when I upload it [18:34] there have been problems in Debian with this working on porterboxes but not on the buildds [18:35] i'll do a launchpad question [18:37] Laney: I think you'll get a faster response asking for people with hardware, but OK :) [18:38] persia: I really do want to test it on a buildd though :( [18:38] Shouldn't be that different, but yeah, I understand. [18:40] I reckon this is one of those cases where a difference is more likely to cause problems [18:40] the experience in tweaking the build for all of Debian's weird architectures shows that ghc is pretty sensitive [18:44] And you think the buildd sbuild is going to behave sufficiently differently? [18:48] persia: That was the case when the Debian maintainer tried, I believe [18:48] I just want to be very careful with ghc [18:48] Makes sense. [18:49] persia: would you happen to know anybody else I could bug about reviewing groundcontrol? 1.4 is now in REVU, and the "clean" is now fixed. [18:49] #ubuntu-motu please [18:49] lfaraone: Don't bug people. Bug teams. [18:49] Laney: sorry, my apologies. [18:49] lfaraone: So, ask in -motu, or ask here (but -motu is likely to have more reviewers). [18:49] no problem [18:50] Laney: This channel has had a lot of ground-control upstream talk, so it's not entirely off-topic (as ground-control is so tightly linked to launchpad) [18:50] alright (I have no idea what that is) [18:50] Mind you, I might be wrong about that. [18:51] From what I can tell, it's a tool that provides a GUI wrapper for managing LP projects & branches. [19:02] Hello, there is a translation that wont confirm, is an admin here than can take alook and maybe check the database to see why? === I-Blocklist624 is now known as Lord-Readman [19:37] spm: Gerry C is still at it === doctormo_ is now known as doctormo === matsubara is now known as matsubara-afk === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [20:21] Chex: around ? [20:21] micahg: too earliy for spm [20:24] micahg: whats the users ~NAME ? [20:24] lifeless: ubuntunerd-nospammail [20:25] mbarnett: ^ [20:25] lifeless: it is just me right now and i am pretty slammed, won't be able to take a look for a few minutes [20:26] hopefully... longer if deploys keep blowing up [20:26] mbarnett: sure, just passing the info across as I get it. [20:26] lifeless: thx === sale_ is now known as sale [20:38] there is also an open question about this user: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/100682 [20:41] geser: same user; we're pending mbarnett putting out some other fires [20:45] Launchpad keeps giving me timeout when replying to a question on Answers. What gives? [20:47] Oh. Now it went through. [20:56] hey [20:56] ho [20:56] is there any public spec or bug for the +patches work that i can point to? [20:56] kfogel: ^^? [20:57] poolie: bug #506018 links to the public specs [20:57] Launchpad bug 506018 in malone "Need a "+patches" view: report lists patches attached to bugs." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/506018 [20:57] thanks [20:58] this is not deployed yet, right? [20:58] poolie: see also any bugs tagged with "story-patch-report". right now I'm working on bug #255868 [20:58] Launchpad bug 255868 in malone "Project summary page should show links to patches" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255868 [21:15] lifeless: It doesn't actually require a LOSA. [21:18] wgrant: I did not knowthat :) [21:19] lifeless: ~registry (eg. CHR) is sufficient these days. === jtv is now known as jtv-afk [22:12] how come a translation import is approved, but not imported? [22:20] Is it possible to make any questions that were marked answered for a long time to be marked as solved? [22:25] oh.. and how do I mark one question as a duplicate of another? [22:57] anyone around who knows about the LP -> bugzilla bug syncing? [23:09] hey [23:09] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/100682 [23:10] could somebody don't wait for this guy to keep messing with bugs for day to do desactive the account on launchpad? [23:10] being nice is one thing [23:10] but letting somebody create extra work for lot of people is another thing...