[10:05] <kwwii> vish: hey, can you point me at the humanity branch you work on?
[10:05] <kwwii> vish: I will review it for changes and upload it
[10:13] <psyke83> kwwii: hey, sent you an email re: gtk updates, probably needs more tuning for darkroom based on your feedback
[10:14] <kwwii> hi psyke83, yeah I saw that
[10:14] <kwwii> psyke83: I uploaded vish's changes yesterday just to fix the bugs
[10:14] <psyke83> right
[10:15] <kwwii> psyke83: I looked into your changes (and will look at the new ones now) and probably include them in the next day or so
[10:15] <psyke83> vish's fixes are included in my branch too, so if the updates look otherwise ok, you shouldn't have problems
[10:15]  * kwwii is *really* busy
[10:16] <psyke83> yep, no worries :)
[10:16] <vish> kwwii: hei , i didnt understand , what branch?
[10:16] <vish> the volume icons?
[10:16] <kwwii> vish: yeah
[10:16] <kwwii> I think I found them thogh
[10:17] <kwwii> in elementaryicons
[10:17] <vish> yup
[10:17] <vish> kwwii: you want to upload to lucid?
[10:17] <kwwii> vish: yes, I do...but I need to review things first
[10:18] <kwwii> the new sound menu is ready to go into lucid
[10:18] <kwwii> so it will need the right icons ;)
[10:18] <vish> kwwii: hmm , there are a couple of things that i have to fix in the branch..
[10:18] <kwwii> we might need to rename/relink some icons
[10:18] <vish> i'll upload the changes in a couple of hours
[10:19] <kwwii> vish: ok, let me know when you are ready
[10:19] <kwwii> vish: but no hurry, take your time
[10:19] <vish> kwwii: the volume icons are good to go though.. there are a few extra wip icons there.. [which might be the only problem]
[10:20]  * vish bbl and fix the branch
[10:21] <kwwii> vish: hrm, I guess I'll just add those volume icons for now and give you time to work on your stuff, ok?
[10:22] <vish> kwwii: hmm , just a sec , i'll remove the offending icon.. and the other changes are good
[10:22] <kwwii> ok, cool
[10:31] <vish> kwwii: k. done...  it should be good for review [for now ;)]
[10:32] <kwwii> vish: killer, thanks!
[10:32]  * vish bbl
[10:32] <vish> np..
[10:32] <kwwii> have fun
[11:18] <kwwii> psyke83: hey, ever thought about tryin to desaturate darkRoom ?
[11:18] <kwwii> in the meantime it looks outdated in my opinion
[11:19] <psyke83> yep... I sent a version called "newhuman-light" a good while ago... let me get a screenshot
[11:20] <psyke83> kwwii: http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3841/newhumanlightv01.png
[11:20] <psyke83> I agree that it looks outdated too (but I prefer the modification over the current version, at least)
[11:22] <kwwii> hrm, taht is still too saturated for me (and too light)
[11:23] <psyke83> well, I'm not a fan of dark themes in general... UbuntuStudio is tolerable for me, but DarkRoom makes me uncomfortable. I can try to desaturate the brown and see if I can find a working combination
[11:24] <kwwii> hehe
[11:24] <kwwii> I was amazed that people like it
[11:24] <kwwii> I was just playing around
[11:25] <psyke83> kwwii: IMHO, something like #665247 for the bg_color would improve the theme
[11:26] <psyke83> we need to find a way to create associations with coffee and cocoa beans, rather than fecal matter ;)
[11:26] <psyke83> unfortunately all three concepts are related to humanity :P
[11:30] <kwwii> one second...I had a call
[11:31] <kwwii> hehe, I actually like it with much less saturation
[11:33] <kwwii> and darker
[11:33] <kwwii> 474141 or so
[11:33] <psyke83> let me see
[11:33] <kwwii> 514a4a
[11:34] <kwwii> yeah...514a4a would be an excellent start
[11:34] <kwwii> it is close to the brightness overall
[11:34] <kwwii> but less saturated
[11:34] <psyke83> ah you wanted it almost completely desaturated?
[11:34] <psyke83> I don't see brown anymore
[11:35] <kwwii> well, yeah ;)
[11:35] <kwwii> it is a dark brownish grey
[11:35] <psyke83> well... it looks better, but I'd like to change some little things (like the inactive text colour)
[11:35] <kwwii> 524747 perhaps
[11:36] <psyke83> yes, better
[11:37] <psyke83> the other just looked grey on my screen (maybe because it's an older LCD panel with 6bit reproduction, I dunno)
[11:37] <kwwii> it is amazing how different monitors look
[11:37] <psyke83> yes
[11:37] <kwwii> the design team use a lot of macs
[11:38] <kwwii> which distorts their perception of how things will look on a pc
[11:38] <psyke83> yeah the gamma defaults are different (though I dunno if that influences linux)
[11:39] <kwwii> oh, and they do funky stuff as well
[11:39] <psyke83> it's fine though, you can buy me a mac so that I can see the colours properly... I'll send you my address for shipment
[11:39] <kwwii> using more bits
[11:40] <psyke83> :P
[11:40] <psyke83> I assumed you'd prefer a darker selected_bg_colour, as the contrast with the bright orange was quite strong
[11:40] <psyke83> so... I changed it to the same as Human. I don't know if you wanna change that as well
[11:48] <kwwii> yeah, guess I'd need to see it to understand what you mean
[11:48] <kwwii> but the bright orange is a bit too much, if that is what you mean
[11:48] <kwwii> :p
[11:49] <kwwii> my son calls and says someone hit him in the face with a book and broke his glasses
[11:53] <psyke83> kwwii: I mean #D78E49 (which ends up looking brighter because of the highlight_ratio and gradients)
[11:53] <psyke83> wow, sorry to hear that, man
[11:54] <kwwii> ahh, right
[11:54] <kwwii> bad day for him ;(
[11:56] <psyke83> how old is your son?
[11:56] <kwwii> 12
[11:58] <psyke83> it's probably tough for him at that age... or was it an accident and not bullying, I wonder?
[12:00]  * thorwil had classmates purposefully targeting his glasses
[12:03] <kwwii> lol, he comes home and explains it...turns out they were fscking around and it's pretty much both of their fault
[12:04] <kwwii> I hit him, he hit me, I hit him back, he hit me in the face with a book
[12:04] <thorwil> heh
[12:04] <kwwii> and they both feel really bad :p
[12:04] <kwwii> just wait until his mother finds out :p
[12:05] <psyke83> heh
[12:07] <thorwil> back when i was that age, the amount covered by health insurance was pretty good. not anymore
[12:09] <kwwii> I think we have insurance for his glasses
[12:16] <psyke83> kwwii: what about Human, are the changes ok? There's not much changed, mostly gradients and button shading
[12:18] <kwwii> psyke83: ŷes, I think so
[12:18] <kwwii> yes
[12:26] <kwwii> vish: I just made audio-output-none-panel and audio-volume-muted-blocking-panel
[12:28] <kwwii> for Dark
[12:28] <kwwii> lol, then I notice you had one of them in Humanity, the red one
[13:42] <vish> kwwii: yeah , the red icon in one theme is sufficient [humanity-dark just fallsback to humanity for those]
[13:43] <kwwii> vish: good point
[13:43] <kwwii> vish: I made the other one with the outline
[13:45] <vish> kwwii: wouldnt an outline with an "!" inside be better for the "no device "?   would using just an outline would sufficiently convey the meaning?
[13:49] <zniavre> http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/571/captureel.png
[13:49] <zniavre> who made Lucidity ?
[13:49] <kwwii> vish: I don't think we need !'s all over, it scares people
[13:50] <kwwii> zniavre: nifty
[13:50] <kwwii> but not quite done I think
[13:50] <vish> k..
[13:51] <zniavre> he's not in this channel ...
[13:51] <kwwii> lol
[13:51] <kwwii> sorry, I meant that looked nifty
[13:51] <kwwii> :P
[13:51] <vish> lol
[13:51] <zniavre> :o)
[13:52] <vish> kwwii: you included it to the theme?
[13:53] <vish> i'll add it to elementary too..we dont want another merge conflict :p
[13:53] <kwwii> vish: I've just made it now, I will send it to you
[13:53] <kwwii> I still need to make a light version
[13:54] <vish> coolio
[13:54] <kwwii> but right now I am having major problems with my flight on sunday
[13:55] <zniavre> snow?
[14:01] <vish> zniavre: what was the command to force the theme for an app?
[14:01] <zniavre> wait a sec
[14:02] <zniavre> env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Human-Murrine/gtk-2.0/gtkrc vlc %U   > something around that
[14:02] <zniavre> this one was for vlc
[14:03] <vish> zniavre: awesome thanks...
[14:08] <zniavre> im totally scared to edit wiki page to add a comment on this lucidity theme
[14:10] <kwwii> zniavre: right
[14:10] <kwwii> hehe, don'
[14:11] <kwwii> ahhh
[14:11] <kwwii> don't fear the wiki
[14:24] <kwwii> vish: email address?
[14:29]  * vish wonders if kwwii is very tired :)
[14:30] <kwwii> it is the yahoo account, right?
[14:30] <vish> kwwii: yup.. ;) you've sent me mails already ;)
[14:30] <kwwii> sorry
[14:30] <kwwii> I am having a bad day
[14:31] <vish> yeah , i guessed ;)
[14:31] <kwwii> my flight for the 14-16 turns out to be for March
[14:31] <kwwii> and airberlin is not the most helpful company in the world
[14:34]  * thorwil guesses the most helpful company in the world doesn't sit in germany
[14:35] <kwwii> thorwil: service desert Germany...you know it's real when even German comics make fun of it
[14:40] <dashua> zniavre, It seems you have to enable RGBA for the entire theme to get the new round transparent tooltips.
[14:41] <dashua> It doesn't work if you theme the style and specify the engine.
[14:43] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/42144/screenshot_0BW9iA.png
[14:43] <dashua> Pretty nice
[14:49] <vish> dashua: how do you define the outline?
[14:51] <vish> kwwii: does it look anything similar to the real thing?  >  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1325768/n900-128.png
[14:51]  * vish just found an error ;)
[14:52] <zniavre> dashua,  nothing new to this was already available before
[14:53] <zniavre> http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/571/captureel.png
[14:53] <zniavre> wrong paste sorry
[14:53] <zniavre> http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/676/capture1aa.png
[14:54] <kwwii> vish: it is a bit more rounded on the sides
[14:54] <kwwii> and the speaker whole is much less visible
[14:55] <kwwii> vish: and the panel does not go all the way through to the left
[14:55] <vish> kwwii: the speaker you mean the black line right?
[14:56] <kwwii> vish: yes
[14:56] <vish> kwwii: even during the music mode the panel is not to the left?
[14:56] <kwwii> also, just above that, even less visible is a camera (under the plsatic)
[14:56] <vish> i saw that in a video
[14:57] <kwwii> vish: um, right is it full then
[14:57] <kwwii> your icon does look nice though
[14:57] <kwwii> I am just trying to be picky to make it perfect ;)
[14:58] <vish> kwwii: i want you to pick on it ;p
[14:58]  * vish makes changes
[16:26] <vish> ha..  dilmo implemented hbons idea :)
[16:38] <dashua> Any recommendations for the community themes package as far as adding new themes, removing older ones?  Impression and Night Impression are very similar, so do we want both?
[16:38] <dashua> UbuntuSun seems fairly popular in the community.
[16:49]  * thorwil looks at "Ubuntu Jersey's" post linking to very scary "designs"
[16:52] <dashua> thorwil, Jersey is very scary in general. ;)
[18:47] <thorwil> http://fontmatrix.net/ in the latest release (not karmic package) is really nice!
[19:45] <zniavre> good evening
[19:46] <Raff7> hi
[19:46] <Raff7> :)
[19:46] <zniavre> how to make progessbar thinner ? please
[19:46] <Raff7> maybe you can help me, i'm searching for a not too-much vectorial theme
[19:46] <Raff7> something that seems real and not a toon
[20:30] <troy_s> Raff7: What does that mean?
[20:30] <troy_s> Raff7: Sorry, but you will need to explain things a little further.
[20:30] <Raff7> sure uhm
[20:31] <Raff7> i don't like gnome/kde
[20:31] <Raff7> because i don't like their look, seems a toon
[20:31] <Raff7> something for children... there is a lot of vectorial art there
[23:40] <jerrod> hi