[00:11] bdmurray, sorry lost my connection. I've commited the pattern anyway since it's done. [00:13] jibel: awesome, thanks! [00:16] it's late here. see you tomorrow. [00:22] micahg: okay, yes gerry c is getting bothersome [00:23] bdmurray: should we request the account blocked until the user comes in here? [00:23] micahg: well whatever the Launchpad sys admins do should be done I think [00:33] * persia isn't sure how to respond to invernizzi's request to join. I'd like to see examples of Ubuntu bug triage, but I'm not coming up with an encouraging way to request that. Anyone else have any bright ideas? [00:34] i can withdraw the request and triage some before resubmitting [00:35] I don't think there's a need to withdraw the request [00:36] invernizzi: No need to withdraw. I'm just one member. There are lots of other people who might respond. [00:36] ok [00:36] invernizzi: And please don't take my request for help in responding to be direct criticism: I asked here precisely because I wasn't sure how to ask for that without appearing to criticise. [00:36] no worries [01:06] well, OTOH, we do not have a separation for upstreams located on LP and common Ubuntu triaging === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === persia` is now known as persia [01:49] did we start getting package based tags? [02:45] micahg: I've also noticed "Gerry C." assigning people & adding tasks on a fair amount of bugs lately [02:46] yah there seems to be a little fad goin' on... [02:46] kermiac: I asked spm an official notice to consult the docs, hopefully that'll help [02:48] hggdh, around.. need a hand with a bug :) [02:48] yeah, hopefully. looks like he might be trying to do the right thing & is simply confused. Doesn't seem to be another of the "full moon" incidents like a few days ago [02:49] should I unassign people/ remove tasks if I notice them & I'm sure the [02:50] & I'm sure they're incorrect [02:50] kermiac: yes [02:50] ok, ty micahg :) [02:50] kermiac: but comment [02:50] yes, I always comment on bugs that I change :) [02:50] i saw someone was adding things to the flash bug too and they had to be asked to stop [02:50] kermiac: good :) [02:50] ddecator: yes [02:51] ddecator: BTW, I didn't forget about it, but I had an issue with making the patch... [02:51] micahg, no problem, the fix is easy, and i still haven't had any issues with it [02:52] oh, micahg , i was gonna ask you, do you remember that thunderbird bug? you said you were going to do something with it but i haven't seen any changes...anything you want me to do for it? (i can get the # if you want) [02:52] ddecator: sure [02:55] one sec... [02:55] hey, lp is actually loading kind of fast [02:56] bug 518336 [02:56] Launchpad bug 518336 in thunderbird (Ubuntu) "thunderbird-3.0: Please turn off global search by default (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/518336 [02:56] ddecator: yeah, sorry nothing really to do unless you can find an upstream bug on b.m.o for it [02:57] micahg, alright, i knew you said there was something you were going to do but i couldn't remember what, haha. i'll take a look upstream in a min. what should i do if i don't find anything? [02:58] * micahg looks at the bug again [02:58] ddecator: idr, but I think there should be an upstream [02:59] micahg, sounds good, i'll take a look [02:59] ddecator: thanks [03:00] hi everyone! I need help with this bug. I can't confirm it coz I don't have a floppy drive :( [03:00] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/476013 [03:00] Launchpad bug 476013 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "USB floppy drives aren't formatted correctly (affects: 1)" [Low,Incomplete] [03:01] I asked int #ubuntu and #ubuntu-es and no luki, any idea what can I do? [03:01] nigel_nb: sorry, hands full with a deployment (yes, yet another one) at my customer [03:01] man, i haven't seen a floppy drive in years... [03:01] malev: you shouldn't set to Invalid while you check something [03:01] hggdh, no probs. I'll ask someone in the room :) [03:02] malev: you could simulate a floppy in virtualbox [03:02] malev: that's only good enough if you can confirm though, not to dismiss [03:03] upst! ... oks! my bad. [03:03] I'm gonna change it right now [03:03] to.. incomplete? [03:03] malev: it's incomplete now [03:03] malev: I'm just saying for the future :) [03:03] yes! I set it a few hours ago [03:04] oks! thanks for the observation. I'm gonna try with virtualbox [03:04] but, first I have to install it :D [03:04] thanks [03:05] malev: the other thing to do is check for an upstream bug on bugzilla.gnome.org [03:05] ... I don't know what is that [03:05] malev: or a duplicate on launchpad [03:05] malev: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME [03:06] micahg, nice! I'm checking it right now! thanks again [03:07] malev: np [03:08] micahg, what is the definition of regression? [03:11] nigel_nb: something that worked before that no longer does [03:12] micahg, Well, a bug that was closed as fixed is not yet fixed. I guess that doesn't count as regression [03:13] nigel_nb: bug # [03:13] micahg, the new bug is bug 519999, standby for old one [03:13] Launchpad bug 519999 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Paused last.fm stream fails to restart (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/519999 [03:16] micahg, quick note, i didn't see anything on bugzilla, but i'll look more in-depth when i get back from a meeting [03:17] ddecator: k [03:18] micahg, the old bug is bug 483335 [03:18] Launchpad bug 483335 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox 0.12.5 cannot start playback of Last.fm after pausing (affects: 2)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/483335 [03:19] nigel_nb: the old bug says nothing about this being fixed in lucid [03:20] * micahg has the same problem of glossing over comments [03:21] micahg, there was something in the comments about it [03:22] no, another bug was fixed in the lucid release [03:22] nigel_nb: dupe the new one to the old one and see if there's an upstream bug on bgo [03:22] micahg, okay :) [03:22] change the status to confirmed [03:23] and comment abotu the mistake [03:23] so people don't think you're reopening a closed bug [03:23] the reporter thought his bug might have been fixed too [03:23] okay [03:23] but there was no proof [03:25] I read the release info and it had something to say fix released [03:25] dont remember now [03:25] nigel_nb: there's probably an upstream for this [03:25] searching now [03:29] micahg: a task was opened against python in bug 343625. It should be ok to invalidate the new task, right? I'm not 100% sure on this one as the OP mentions "& new python". The bug was set to high/confirmed against system-config-printer [03:29] Launchpad bug 343625 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[jaunty] system-config-printer & new python hangs with 100% CPU (affects: 5) (dups: 2)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/343625 [03:32] kermiac: change to null project with a comment of incorrect upstream project [03:32] ty micahg :) [03:52] micahg, in bug 460964, can close the network manager task? the issue must be with notify-osd [03:52] Launchpad bug 460964 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Network manager does not merge its OSD notifications (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460964 [03:53] nigel_nb: most probably, I can't say for sure as I don't know notify-osd [03:53] I've done a little bit of work on it [03:53] but I dont think NM can do much [03:56] nigel_nb: I think it's nm [03:57] micahg, oh [03:57] micahg, but if you read the notify specifications that the OP has linked, it would seem like notify-osd [03:58] nigel_nb: I would think that nm sets the priorities of teh bubbles [03:58] notify0osd only displays [03:58] AFAIK [03:58] micahg, what is happening is not prority [03:58] micahg, notify is supposed to merge notifications if coming from same app within a particular time frame [03:59] that does not seem to be happening [03:59] nigel_nb: both of them have indicated that they allow merging [03:59] that's one of the bullets [03:59] that might not be happening [04:00] micahg, bullets, where? [04:01] nigel_nb: on the wiki page [04:01] one of the bullet points [04:04] micahg, ah. [05:11] nigel_nb: thats a dup [05:11] * vish tries to find bug [05:12] vish, which one? [05:12] * nigel_nb has been working on too many dups today [05:12] nigel_nb: the nm notifications [05:12] vish, ah [05:13] nigel_nb: it needs to be dealt in both notify-osd and nm.. [well thats what the Mirco said] [05:13] vish, I didn't close any task. I confirmed one of them [05:14] nigel_nb: yup , just mentioning the info i know :) [05:14] vish, thanks :) [05:14] vish, or else I'd have to wait for someone in ayatana to show up [05:15] vish, I spent like 4 hours writing an apport hook for notify before pulling lucid source, only to find it was already written ;) [05:15] nigel_nb: Mirco is the main notify-osd dev.. I had asked him earlier regarding this bug... its a dup.. i'll dup it as soon as i find it ;) [05:15] vish, I'm hunting [05:19] nigel_nb: done [05:19] vish, whats the old bug number? [05:20] nigel_nb: hrm... damn i closed FF , refresh the above bug it should be there [05:21] ok :) [05:23] <^arky^> hi [05:24] <^arky^> Is this bug 460729 triaged properly ? [05:24] Launchpad bug 460729 in fdupes (Ubuntu) "Typo in fdupes manpage (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/460729 [05:25] ^arky^, is it triaged at all? [05:25] <^arky^> oops [05:25] <^arky^> nigel_nb: I meant this one bug 486823 [05:25] Launchpad bug 486823 in openwsman (Ubuntu) "Typo in package description of libopenwsman-dev, libopenwsman1 and openwsman: "This packages" (affects: 1)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486823 [05:27] ^arky^: yep. its a confirmed error [05:28] <^arky^> nigel_nb: thank you [05:28] anyone know if micahg will be back on again tonight? [05:30] ^arky^, you could have submitted a debdiff [05:30] <^arky^> nigel_nb: is that package managed in debian ? [05:31] ^arky^, dunno, but its easier. you can jut ask a sponser to merge it then ( I think, not sure) [05:31] bah, not merge, sponser [05:31] <^arky^> nigel_nb: I put up a merge request [05:31] <^arky^> already [05:32] * hggdh hates production deployments [05:32] hehe [05:33] ^arky^, just ask in -motu which is preferred (i'm not sure) [05:33] <^arky^> nigel_nb: ok will do [05:33] ^arky^, I think you can change to in progress when working on a bug [05:34] hggdh, deployment over? [05:35] nope [05:36] aw :( [05:42] hggdh, is it okay to change status to "in progress" if I'm working on a patch? [05:43] nigel_nb: yes [05:43] 'in progress' is reserved for those that are working on a fix [05:43] should I assign to myself? [05:44] nigel_nb: also please assign to yourself [05:44] he [05:44] heh [05:44] ah well, ;) [05:44] if it is in progress, there must be an assignee [05:44] ah [05:44] and I still hate production deployments... [05:44] should be sleeping already [05:45] hggdh, hehe... linux deployment? or some app on the server? [05:45] Solaris & Windows [05:45] both servers [05:45] they are updating servers? [05:46] no, upgrading server programmes [05:46] applications [05:47] ah [05:47] so u have to stay back for downtime - not good ;) [05:47] and to fix any issues that pop up [05:47] hggdh, gl [05:48] well, actually we have found, so far, 4 issues, 3 I corrected, one is at a remote partner, nothing I can do (except blame their incompetence ;-) [05:49] all in all, better than I really expected. I thought we would have to go back to the old environment to fix a serious issues, and no serious blowups so far [05:50] ddecator: sucks. I could be at my hotel, sleeping now. [05:51] hggdh, at least your not having as much trouble as Jabber =p [05:51] heh [05:51] indeed [05:57] hggdh, how do I use sed to correct a list of files? [05:57] * nigel_nb has been trying for some time and is fed up [05:59] hey micahg [05:59] hi [05:59] nigel_nb: man sed ;-) [05:59] i left a comment on that thunderbird bug, i only found stuff about the global inbox, nothing about global search, but i think i said the right thing [05:59] and nothing about the default behavior for downloading mail [05:59] hggdh, yeah, but my expression is still not working [06:00] ddecator: thunderbird 3 indexes all mail into a super index [06:00] nigel_nb: one way is to search for scrips using it [06:00] micahg, right, so it can all be searched by thunderbird, but i pointed out that global search and the download behavior are separate [06:00] but you are probably either giving it the wrong RE, or the wrong options [06:00] hggdh, can I get sed to recursively search each directory and replace? [06:01] hggdh, I am giving the wrong options definitely [06:01] nigel_nb: I do not thing sed can recurse on directories (but it is a long time since I needed it) [06:01] oh no, that means I need to write a script [06:02] nigel_nb: have you tried http://sed.sf.net/grabbag/tutorials/sedfaq.txt ? [06:03] hggdh, looking [06:04] nigel_nb: Probably a oneliner... find /somedir -type f | xargs grep -l "somestring" | xargs sed -i -e 's/somestring/otherstring/g' # Or something along those lines? [06:04] jmarsden, ah, thanks :) [06:05] nigel_nb: You're welcome. BTW above is untested, it's just my first instinct for doing that ... check it before running it on files you care about :) [06:06] jmarsden, sure :) [06:06] ddecator: mozilla 516493 [06:06] Mozilla bug 516493 in Search "User should be warned about "global search and indexer" being enabled on upgrade" [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516493 [06:06] jmarsden, its a bug fix, i can always rm the folder and dpkg-source again ;) [06:07] nigel_nb: Ah OK, in that case it's not all that risky. Doing it on an archive of a million historical documents or something might need rather more testing :) [06:07] micahg, i opened every thunderbird bug and did a search for key words including "global" and i don't remember ever seeing that -_- [06:07] jmarsden, I format twice or thrice every releaes after ding something dumb [06:08] jmarsden, my /home will always have temp data ;) [06:08] ddecator: due to the numbers of bugs in bmo, more specific is usually better [06:08] micahg, that's what i started with, then i generalized, haha, idk what happened...did you already link them or do you want me to? [06:09] ddecator: yep, BTW, here's my search term: ALL thunderbird global search [06:09] ddecator: was the seventh bug listed [06:10] micahg, i might have not had trunk included [06:10] nigel_nb: Ouch, that's a lot of reformats! I run rsnapshot every hour over /etc and (most of) /home, so it keeps hourly/daily/weekly/monthly copies, so I can almost always "go back" when I mess up. And when I'm doing something I know is risky, I do it in a disposable VM anyway. [06:11] jmarsden, I dont save much in /home. everything on other bigger partitions [06:11] micahg, pedro just had to tell me this morning how to use google to search lp bugs, haha, i'll get this search thing figured out at some point [06:16] <^arky^> question: are there any known bugs for two side printer jobs [06:16] jmarsden, I used a simpler expression without the greps [06:17] nigel_nb: Cool, as long as it works... if you sed files that don't actually contain the string it "works" but updates the modified date on all those files, which can be undesirable... hence my grepping to ensure you only sed the files you actually want to change. [06:17] jmarsden, ah :) [07:29] hi all, please anyone could mark the bug #352215 as Triaged?, I´ve done the upstream. [07:29] Launchpad bug 352215 in ekiga (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ekiga crashed with SIGSEGV in calloc() (affects: 2) (dups: 2)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/352215 [07:31] this is it. g'night all [09:01] morning [09:03] morning BUGabundo_remote :) [09:11] * kermiac is seeing more invalid bug tasks & assigning people/ teams to bugs from Gerry C. [09:13] bug 350178 bug 335968 bug 300622 :( [09:13] Launchpad bug 350178 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[LENOVO 17045UG] suspend/resume failure (affects: 2)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/350178 [09:13] Launchpad bug 335968 in acpi (Ubuntu) "DVD missing after install (affects: 2) (dups: 1)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335968 [09:13] Launchpad bug 300622 in gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[Intrepid] Battery not noticed by ubuntu (affects: 4)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/300622 [09:31] who is gerry c? [09:33] chrisccoulson, someone who has been causing a bit of a havoc lately [09:33] micahg was asking earlier if he was a known spammer/problem maker [09:34] chrisccoulson: someone who is "hopefully" confused. he was sent an official notice to read the docs [09:34] he's really annoying me now [09:34] * kermiac agrees [09:34] i don't have time to go and clean up his mess [09:35] I'm cleaning up his mess in any bug mail i get, but I'm obviously not subscribed to everything he touched [09:35] I'm wondering if these user are using the launchpad API for the "activity" [09:35] and his gmane search was only showing up about 15 bugs [09:36] yeah, i think you just cleaned up a gpm bug [09:36] because >900 of karma in two days is a lot [09:36] it took me a year to get there ;) [09:36] thekorn: answer tracker? [09:36] it's very generous with karma... [09:36] yes, that was me. I'm trying to clean up whilst causing as little amount of bugmail spam as possible [09:37] oh, yeah, but he has ~400 on malone, which is still alot [09:38] his karma history is just lots of "Bug Task Created" [09:38] yeah, he's been doing that & also assinging teams/people to these tasks he is creating [09:39] we have a security bug #516500 but it takes over a week for secuirty team to respond in any way yet! Set prio High please? [09:39] Launchpad bug 516500 in apt-cacher (Ubuntu) "apt-cacher stops updates of random packages (Connection failed) (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/516500 [09:39] LimCore, is this your daily reminder for this channel? [09:40] thekorn: yes [09:40] ah wait, it's only security, I guess we can relax and wait few more weeks why not [09:41] silently not updating packages (not auto updating other security bug fixes from repos) is not that big of a deal is it [09:41] well, this is the second spammer in the past few weeks [09:42] nigelb: you call me spammer?! [09:42] LimCore, lol not you [09:42] LimCore, have you tried to get in contact with the security team directly? [09:42] * kermiac laughs [09:42] LimCore, read scroll back about gerry c [09:42] ok [09:43] * nigelb snickers [09:43] thekorn: subscribing Ubuntu Security Team seems quite direct. what else? [09:44] LimCore, instead of asking about this bug in this channel over-andover again, and beeing told that we cannot do anything about it also over-and-over again, [09:45] you can talk to them directly on their irc channel [09:45] or write them a mail [09:45] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved [09:46] or someones could just make me bug controll so we could triag embarassing security related problems a bit faster - I would give it a Medium after confirming that bug is indeed popular [09:49] LimCore, it isn't a popular bug, it is only affecting you ;) [09:49] or me and 50 people that didnt notice and 200 that didnt bothered to report [09:49] for exmaple the flash bug does not affect 2000 reporters, but it affects like 500.000 ubuntu users that use YT [09:50] becasuse that flash bug occures for EVERY user =) [09:50] still I would first confirm it before setting prio of course [09:55] hi, is the ubuntu bug control team the one to try and join for setting bug priorities? i've completely forgotten for some reason :) [09:55] LimCore / thekorn - are you referring to the apt-cacher bug linked above [09:56] chrisccoulson, yes [09:56] thekorn - it's in universe (ie, no support from the ubuntu security team anyway) [09:56] or certainly not a priority for them [09:56] <^arky^> hi, can anyone help with this error bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDi [09:56] we've had this issue before for security issues in universe packages [09:57] it needs a contributor who cares enough about the issue to spend their time fixing it [09:57] * kermiac found 47 bugs touched by Gerry C using http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=Gerry+C&group=gmane.linux.ubuntu.bugs.general&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xFILTERS=Glinux.ubuntu.bugs.general-Arhett-Atrappman---A [09:57] I'll start cleaning them up :/ [09:58] should he be reported like the guy from the other day. The first guy only had around half that many [09:58] chrisccoulson: or is there another way of caching apt downloads? [09:58] LimCore: i've no idea [09:58] chrisccoulson: this is very important for ubuntu depoyments with no so fast internet [09:58] well, one other way would be to use squid as a general solution, but I like idea of apt-cacher [09:59] well, there's no support with apt-cacher, unless you can find a volunteer to work on it [09:59] I tried reporting to debian, as they are upstream [09:59] but they are unfortunatelly a bunch of assholes [10:00] only banned for mentioning ubuntu heh [10:00] well, calling them assholes is hardly appropriate [10:00] I may do some more tests first to assert the cause. Currently I bet unstable network connection (or otherwise interrupting a cache download instand going on in the middle of it) [10:01] ok then, least-friendly-linux-community-ever (perhaps besides LFS, not sure, dind't really check ;) [10:04] that's quite a generalisation there. i work with some very pleasant debian developers [10:12] chrisccoulson: quieting for pasting link to LP on upstream's irc chan seems just stupid and also rude, never seen behaviour like this on other channels [10:13] its rather obvious upstream bug, but even if not, there are ways to say this like a civilized person [10:15] if such attitude is only the case on irc channel, then its unfortunate that it reflects a bit on entire community that as you say could be really nice [10:22] this is not even funny any more. filed a question on lp regarding the spammer [10:22] https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/100682 [10:23] kermiac, looks like we may need a spam handling team :( or ability to reset everything a user has done? [10:25] nigelb: it's starting to look that way :( [10:26] also an easier way to discover exactly what damage has been done. gmane search finds a lot, but not all [10:26] kermiac, I think the second idea may have merit. lemme see if I can talk to a few more people and think of logging a bug about launchpad [10:26] a wishlist perhaps [10:27] nigelb: ok, sounds like a good idea. when/if you file a bug pls let me know the bug # or subscribe me as I will be intereted in following its progress [10:27] kermiac, a whole lot of people might be [10:28] i want to talk to a few senior bug squad members before filing [10:28] * kermiac goes back to cleaning up... 4 done, 43 to go [10:28] ok nigelb :) [10:28] kerdekel, ugh! its so frustrating that we're not doing what we're supposed to do and instead cleaning up [10:28] oops.. tab fail [10:29] err.. kermiac ^^ [10:30] I couldn't agree more nigelb. I don't understand wtf is going on... 3 major issues with 3 diff users in the last week [10:30] the first was mild, the last 2 are nasty [10:31] yup [10:31] its the same guy, dug [10:31] *duh [10:31] MS hasn't infiltrated LP have they ;) [10:32] LimCore: how would we prove that??? [10:32] kermiac: why would you like to prove that? [10:32] LP doesn't log IP's - does it? [10:33] well, you said "its the same guy, duh"... [10:33] its just obvious [10:33] but it doesn't change anything practically [10:33] just some anti spam messures are needed in any way [10:34] it's definately a possibility. yes, that's true - even if it is it doesn't change the fact that the issue needs to be looked at try & stop it [10:58] kermiac: when cleaning the bugs, it might be prudent to subscribe Gerry C, so he gets your comments [10:58] i just noticed that he's editting them, and not subscribing [10:58] kermiac: you can find what Gerry C. has done from the Ubuntu bug ML archive. [10:59] kermiac: I've found 47 bug reports [10:59] chrisccoulson: I did that with a few of the bugs, but I was getting annoyed so I have raised a question on LP to ban his account. I also asked in #launchpad to get someone to look at that question but have received no speonse yet [11:00] s/spesonse/response [11:01] chrisccoulson: do you think I should bother subscribing him to all of them if he is probably just going to have his account disabled? [11:02] kermiac: yes, so he's aware of the disruption he's causing [11:02] (if he cares) [11:02] chrisccoulson: ok, I'll start doing that again [11:02] thanks [11:02] np :) [11:03] I'm not going to get through all of the bugs he has touched tonight, but I'll start back at it tomorrow (if noone else has cleaned them up by then) [11:03] ty for the tip jibel, when i get done with the 47 I found I'll start looking into the last few days of the ML [11:04] jibel: I haven't looked at that ML before, does it only cover bugs for the generic "ubuntu" package? [11:05] kermiac: I can send you the list a bug number if it helps [11:05] s/a/of/ [11:05] that would be appreciated jibel - save me a bit of work :) [11:06] this is already taking a fair amount of time that I'd much rather have spent triaging bugs instead of cleaning up [11:07] feel free to emai me jibel :) [11:07] kermiac: pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/373864/ [11:10] ty jibel. that looks like a totally diff list to the one i got using gmane - maybe it's even worse than we thought :( [11:11] kermiac: oops, I've shift the bug numbers. I update the list. Forget about that one [11:12] ok jibel :) [11:15] kermiac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/373869/ . it's much better. [11:16] There are 40 unique reports [11:18] ok ty jibel. looks similar to the gmane list but I will check it tomorrow [11:19] kermiac: Thank you for your help. [11:21] np :) hopefully nigelb's idea regarding the "ability to reset everything a user has done" comes to fruition - it would save a LOT of work when things like this happen [11:31] should empty upstream bug tasks be removed if the bug is new (or anything except triaged)? bug 507469 [11:32] Launchpad bug 507469 in ufw (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "User deny rules should override connection tracking (affects: 1)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/507469 [11:34] anyone? [11:34] kermiac, can you give me the gmane link for spammer? [11:34] ok nigel_nb one sec [11:35] http://search.gmane.org/?query=&author=Gerry+C&group=gmane.linux.ubuntu.bugs.general&sort=date&DEFAULTOP=and&xFILTERS=Glinux.ubuntu.bugs.general-Agerry-Ac---A [11:36] possibly a bit premature but I also filed this https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/100682 as a lot of people have been upset by his activities [11:36] kermiac, definitely not premature [11:37] kermiac, chrisccoulson was earlier irritated, yes? so its good :) [11:37] yes & sebastian [11:37] then its good enough [11:37] by any chance remember the other guys? [11:38] one sec, I'll look through the backscroll [11:38] [13:46:22] kermiac: I asked spm an official notice to consult the docs, hopefully that'll help [11:39] kermiac, spm is an lp admin.. no the one before... [11:40] not sure if there was anyone else. I was def. annoyed by the bugmail spam but I'm not really that important ;) [11:40] * nigel_nb starts hunting [11:41] okay, forget [11:41] I have logged a LP bug for reverting all changes made by user. Please subscribe and add comments (if necessary) [11:41] bug 520413 [11:41] Launchpad bug 520413 in malone "All changes by user must be revertable (affects: 1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/520413 [11:42] looking now [11:42] want me to confirm or just comment? [11:42] maybe bugsquad member should confirm? [11:43] and I should just comment? [11:43] kermiac, dont do either [11:43] just comment [11:43] I'll ask lp guys to change to wish list [11:43] ok, np :) [11:44] (thats what they asked me to do) [11:44] I don't think having a mechanism to bulk revert changes of a user is a good idea [11:45] thekorn, if its a spam-only user - it is [11:45] new spammer has made 47 changes which we have to now remove manually [11:45] upps, s *public* mechanism [11:48] ok, commented & subscribed [11:49] yes, this mechanism could be VERY bad in the wrong hands. It would probably need to be looked after by someone other than bugsquad/control (BTW - def not saying either team is untrustworthy, just needs to be handled by someone "further up the food chain") [11:50] kermiac, LP admins. On formal request and proof [11:51] yeah, I agree LP admins would be perfect [11:52] LP admins can already hide bug comments if that's what you want. [11:52] ok, I've gotta go get some sleep, it's alsmost 11pm here & I have spent a lot more time (unfortunatley only fixing issues, not actually triaging) than I should have. Gotta be up in 7 hours for work. I'll finish looking through this mess tomorrow [11:52] jpds, revert changes made to 47 bugs too? [11:52] mostly in the form of bug tasks :( [11:52] jpds: i didn't know that, you learn something new every day :) [11:52] nigel_nb: They can hide all the spam comments on the bugs if asked. [11:53] jpds, its not comments this time. Its mostly a task or a change in status [11:53] unfortunatlly in this case it's mostly unassigning people/teams [11:53] You just need to file a request at answers.launchpad.net/launchpad . [11:53] he didn't comment [11:53] I'm sure they can work something out if need be. [11:53] anyway.... I've gotta go get some sleep - night all [11:56] jpds, answer request already opened. the bug was for something in the long-term [11:58] arg, sorry, nigel_nb got connection issues :( [11:59] what was the last thing I wrote? [11:59] thekorn, "upps, s *public* mechanism" [12:00] nigel_nb, ok, so what I wanted to add is: "this mechanism has to be restricted to a small group of people" [12:01]