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lifelessis there any supported way to do an automated install of sun java without the licence prompt?00:54
persialifeless: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaTeam/KnowledgeBase00:54
lifeless\o/00:55
persiawikis are wonderful things00:55
persiaBut don't do that unless you *really* must.  default-jre and default-jdk are almost always preferable.00:56
lifelessexcept that there is a bundled and renamed class in sun-java600:57
lifelessthat isn't like that in openjdk-java600:57
lifelesswhich makes openjdk-java6 buggered for a nontrivial number of apps00:57
lifelessI can dig up the bug # if you like00:58
lifelesshttp://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=687673600:58
persialifeless: Aha.  I'd call that a bug in hudson, but YMMV :)01:02
lifelesshudson, openoffice, ... - depending on what sun shipped for years.01:03
persiaWell, more deeply, it's probably a bug in Sun, but that's a different matter :)01:03
lifelesscould argue it either way01:03
persiaI'll always argue against code bundling.01:03
lifeless*cough CD image cough*01:03
* persia wanders off, whistling innocently01:04
* lifeless waits for hudson to fire off another VM01:07
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lifelesspersia: http://rbtcollins.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/using-uec-instead-of-ec2/ is what I needed the sun java workaround for20:49
persialifeless: Cool.  I do suggest you add a note that indicates that you should really read the Sun license prior to adding the debconf hint.20:52
persiaBecause adding that is considered equivalent to accepting the license, which is a bit questionable if one hasn't read it.20:53
persia(not that everyone reads licenses, but people should at least have to pretend they have done so)20:53
lifelessyou should see what hudson (a sun product) does :>20:53
lifelessit just batch installs a copy from s320:53
persiaYeah, well.20:54
persiaSomething I learned when working with Sun in other areas is that different bits of Sun don't always talk to each other as well as one might hope.20:54
persiaBut I understand that had been improving, although the current news seems to contain lots of uncertainty.20:55
lifeless:>20:56
persiaAnyway, as with everything else, when wearing "Ubuntu" hats, we do best at helping that integration happen even if upstreams aren't doing it themselves.20:59
lifeless:)21:00
lifelessone can argue that ignoring unenforcable things is a good idea. I'm not sure it is.21:01
lifelessI've added a reply noting that there was some sleight of hand there.21:01
persiaYeah, the idea was just to avoid confusion.21:02
rzrpersia: hi21:34
rzri just saw that you built swt21:34
persiarzr: Yep.21:34
rzrI am waiting at it to rebuild tuxguitar21:34
rzrwhen will it be uploaded21:35
rzrseems the build is over now21:35
persiaIt's been uploaded.21:35
* persia checks if it's stuck21:35
rzrpublished i mean21:35
rzr Note: Some binary packages for this source are not yet published in the repository.21:35
persiaYeah, it's caught in binary NEW.  I'll bug an archive-admin in a bit.  Maybe 3-5 hours, if I'm lucky.21:35
rzrok21:36
rzrthx21:36
rzrlast question21:36
rzrwhy +versionbump ?21:36
rzrit's unclear for me21:37
rzrupstream debian one never went into archive , did it ?21:37
rzrhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swt-gtk/+bug/51999421:38
rzrok21:38
ubottuUbuntu bug 519994 in swt-gtk "Please unblacklist swt-gtk from the autosync" [Undecided,New]21:38
persiarzr: I tried to get Debian synced, but it ended up blacklisted.21:51
persiaAdding +versionbump let it be accepted, and that bug unblacklists.21:51
persiaWe should be able to be in sync with the next new upstream.21:51
persiaThe issue was just leftovers from when eclipse was providing swt.21:52

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