[00:02] <asac> ArneGoetje: ok trying to get that. we dont really have a spec; let me talk to rick what we can do ;)
[00:03] <ArneGoetje> asac: thanks a bunch!
[00:04] <asac> but we discussed that already this afternoon so i think it should be ok. actually i would think that the code changes should be easy enough to have this by friday ;)
[00:04] <asac> do you think thats doable? otherwise how long does a langpack rollout take?
[00:04] <asac> like just an update of langpacks without a new export
[00:07] <ArneGoetje> asac: yes, but it takes my time from working on my work items and I need to justify myself for that
[00:15] <asac> ArneGoetje: yes. understood ... i will get a work item today so you can work on friday on that ;)
[00:16] <ArneGoetje> asac: for stable releases with upstream XPIs, do updated strings from rosetta actually get merged into the .jar files? Or are only upstream XPIs used?
[00:16] <ArneGoetje> asac: thanks
[00:17] <asac> atm we use upstream xpis for stable release
[00:18] <asac> simply because we have no qa procedure atm that would be good enough - as discussed before
[00:18] <ArneGoetje> asac: ah, ok.
[00:22] <ccheney> what do you link to get the symbols from resolv.h?
[00:23] <ccheney> libresolv?
[00:27] <ccheney> yep that fixed it :)
[00:28] <ccheney> 1 get_type left to fix and then the other more complicated bits left
[00:33] <ArneGoetje> asac: please note that I won't be available next week, due to Chinese New Year
[00:41]  * ccheney is also gone thu-mon
[01:05] <ccheney> finally down to just:
[01:05] <ccheney> ../libsoup/.libs/libsoup-2.4.so: undefined reference to `g_main_context_pop_thread_default'
[01:05] <ccheney> ../libsoup/.libs/libsoup-2.4.so: undefined reference to `g_poll'
[01:06] <ccheney> ../libsoup/.libs/libsoup-2.4.so: undefined reference to `g_main_context_push_thread_default'
[01:06] <ccheney> ../libsoup/.libs/libsoup-2.4.so: undefined reference to `gnutls_priority_set_direct'
[01:07] <ccheney> 188KB 6.3Kline patch
[01:07] <ccheney> still won't really know if it works though until i get it all done :-\
[01:09]  * ccheney off to his 5 day weekend :)
[09:01] <BUGabundo_remote> morning
[10:22] <asac> ccheney: ca you post what you got ?
[10:23] <asac> before going on vac?
[13:08] <ripps>  Man, there has to be a leak in chromium or something, it causes my computer to grind to a halt whenever I start loading relatively large images. It never did this before. And it remains slow even when the tab with the image has been closed.
[13:14] <asac> i didnt upgrade today. so cant confirm
[13:20] <ripps> I'm using the -dev ppa and I've had this problem for a while. It seems once chromium takes up most of my ram, it refuses to let it go.
[14:15] <sebner> asac: too late? *mauahaha*
[14:16]  * micahg thinks asac is up to his arm in code :P
[15:55] <micahg> Ubuntu Mozillateam meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes
[16:07] <micahg> asac: so, I looked at the fontconfig bug in bmo, and followed the links upstream, it seems like it was stalled
[16:08] <micahg> I was thinking to poke cairo upstream
[16:13] <asac> micahg: so ... the lcd  bug is something upstream blocks on
[16:13] <asac> micahg: the gtk setting imo just is an issue because its a different cairo than the one previously loaded by gtkj
[16:13] <micahg> idk
[16:14] <asac> if nothing changes i will install fedora
[16:14] <micahg> asac: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=23125&action=edit
[16:14] <asac> i am sure they have the same issue
[16:14] <asac> and upstream just never saw good fonts :)
[16:15] <asac> hmm
[16:15] <asac> i think that code landed eventually
[16:15] <asac> maybe check if you can still see that code in the current tree
[16:15] <micahg> yep
[16:15]  * micahg checks 1.8
[16:15] <micahg> .1.8.8 first
[16:16] <micahg> not in 1.8.8
[16:16]  * micahg looks in trunnk
[16:17] <micahg> asac: not in trunk
[16:17] <asac> ask in cairo ;)?
[16:17] <asac> #cairo
[16:17]  * micahg has it somewhere
[16:18] <asac> anyway. that feels related, but still doesnt explain why gtk settings dont work
[16:18] <asac> thats not fontconfig
[16:18] <asac> (still would be a great catch if it was true)
[16:18] <micahg> well, I'm trying to get rid of upstream's reasons why it's not their fault :)
[16:19] <micahg> I clearly saw the issue posted in teh otehr bug about handling of fonts, so I thought I'd look into it
[16:20] <micahg> different display based on xfb or cairo backend
[16:20] <micahg> s/xfb/xft
[16:23] <micahg> asac: are you waiting to spin all the stuff to teh security PPA at once?
[16:25] <asac> yeah
[16:25] <asac> well. the easiest way to give strong indication that its upstream is to run fedora
[16:25] <asac> and see if it works there ;)
[16:25] <asac> that gives us two distros having the same issue
[16:25] <asac> if not, we are at fault
[16:25] <asac> or they have a patch we didnt pick up
[16:25] <micahg> asac: k
[16:25] <micahg> i'll d/l f12
[16:27] <asac> cooool
[16:27] <asac> try upstream build there ;)
[16:27] <micahg> k
[16:29]  * micahg will be back in 20-30 min
[16:44] <LLStarks> mmmm. did i miss the meeting?
[16:44] <LLStarks> asac, can you look at this bug: http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9274/dragging.png
[16:45] <LLStarks> dragged links receive no antialiasing.
[17:12] <svosusr3> I added the ubuntu-mozilla-daily repositories to my karmic and did sudo apt-get install firefox-3.6 . i fetched some 28KB of data.but i don't have firefox-3.6. when I do aptitude show firefox-3.6 , the description says its a transitional package. how do i get ff 3.6
[17:13] <svosusr3> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable - > <urlopen error [Errno -2] Name or service not known>
[17:14] <micahg> LLStarks: no, we'll reschedule
[17:15] <micahg> svosusr3: it's firefox now
[17:17] <ccheney> asac: ok will post it
[17:18] <svosusr3> michag: i ran /usr/bin/firefox -  i am still at 3.5.7
[17:19] <svosusr3> sorry abt the typo : micahg*
[17:19] <micahg> svosusr3: so, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should do it
[17:24] <LLStarks> why dist-upgrade over aptitude?
[17:24] <micahg> LLStarks: idk
[17:25] <micahg> you could do sudo aptitude upgrade and look for the right solution I suppose
[17:41] <asac> ccheney: thanks
[17:41] <asac> get in to some stable place (where it doenst get overridden on next )
[17:43] <ccheney> http://people.canonical.com/~ccheney/libsoup2.4-backport.tar.bz2
[17:46] <asac> ccheney: whtas that?
[17:46] <asac> i cannot run debuild -S on it to produce something debdiffable ;)
[17:47] <asac> ccheney: what can i do with that thing?
[17:47] <asac> make isnt working either ;)
[17:47] <asac> e.g. seems to be not preconfigured
[18:06] <ccheney> asac: run autoreconf then build
[18:08] <ccheney> or i can generate a debdiff against hardy if you would like
[18:28] <armin76> [reed]: did you read what i said?
[18:42] <fta> kenvandine, the Indicator Applet is completely broken with/for evolution
[18:43] <kenvandine> describe completely broken
[18:43] <kenvandine> sometimes it crashes for me
[18:43] <kenvandine> when evo exits
[18:43] <kenvandine> otherwise it is working
[18:43] <kenvandine> and i think that bug is fixed in today's uploads
[18:50] <fta> kenvandine, http://people.ubuntu.com/~fta/indicator-applet-and-evo.ogv
[18:51] <fta> hm, chromium has a nice embedded player now ):
[18:51] <fta> :)
[18:55] <fta> kenvandine, and evo is no longer in the menus :(
[18:56] <kenvandine> fta, what version of dbusmenu?
[18:56] <kenvandine> dpkg -l |grep libdbusmenu
[18:57] <fta> $ dpkg -l | grep libdbusmenu | cut -c-80
[18:57] <fta> rc  libdbusmenu-glib0                                       0.2.1-0ubuntu1
[18:57] <fta> ii  libdbusmenu-glib1                                       0.2.3-0ubuntu3
[18:57] <fta> rc  libdbusmenu-gtk0                                        0.2.1-0ubuntu1
[18:57] <fta> ii  libdbusmenu-gtk1                                        0.2.3-0ubuntu3
[18:58] <kenvandine> ok, that bug was fixed in 0.2.3-0ubuntu3
[18:58] <kenvandine> what version of evolution-indicator?
[18:59] <fta> 0.2.6-0ubuntu4
[18:59] <kenvandine> ok
[18:59] <kenvandine> weird
[19:00] <kenvandine> can you make sure there are no files left around from the 0.2.1-0ubuntu1 versions?
[19:02] <fta> i see there's a new kernel, so maybe a reboot will help
[19:02] <kenvandine> i just hope we don't still have upgrade issues
[19:02] <kenvandine> how about indicator-messages?
[19:02] <kenvandine> what version
[19:03] <fta> i mean, a desktop restart will probably help, but i only restart when there's a new kernel
[19:03] <kenvandine> oh
[19:03] <kenvandine> ok
[19:03] <fta> 0.3.1-0ubuntu2
[19:03] <kenvandine> yeah, you would have needed a restart since monday
[19:04] <fta>  20:03:49 up 3 days, 20:48,  7 users,  load average: 0.09, 0.18, 0.14
[19:05] <fta> had to restart, as X lost both kernel & mouse and was unkillable
[19:35] <fta> kenvandine, gwibber crashed on restart
[19:35] <fta> dbus
[19:36] <fta> Title: gwibber crashed with DBusException in call_blocking()
[19:37] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/374171/
[21:58] <BUGabundo> micahg: what did you make me do :\
[21:58] <micahg> BUGabundo: nothing...
[21:58] <micahg> BUGabundo: just asking about me :)
[21:58] <BUGabundo> :p
[21:58] <BUGabundo> in just a few minutes, u managed to due what MANY asked for a long time
[21:59] <BUGabundo> remove dup posting
[21:59] <micahg> cool :)
[22:00] <micahg> BUGabundo: does that mean you'll be posting more to keep your dent count up? :)
[22:00] <BUGabundo> nope
[22:00] <BUGabundo> check the stats
[22:00] <BUGabundo> macno.com/denticator
[22:01] <micahg> BUGabundo: domain for sale?
[22:01] <BUGabundo> sorry
[22:01] <BUGabundo> .org
[22:03] <micahg> you're tops :)
[22:04]  * micahg is 862
[22:04] <BUGabundo> been for a long time
[22:05] <BUGabundo> and even not posting so much to identica
[22:05] <BUGabundo> I know im secure for a few months
[22:05] <BUGabundo> although edy is fast
[22:05] <BUGabundo> my OMB account is in 20 or so
[22:05] <BUGabundo> check it
[22:06] <micahg> BUGabundo: #34 on braindbirf
[22:06] <micahg> *brainbird
[22:12] <BUGabundo> calm days
[22:18] <[reed]> armin76: um
[22:18] <[reed]> what bug# again?
[22:53] <[reed]> how do I remove a remote bug watch from a bug (specifically, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/233901)?
[22:53] <micahg> hmm
[22:54] <micahg> I get an error
[22:54] <micahg> nm
[22:54] <[reed]> the one to 178685 needs to be removed
[22:54] <[reed]> I dunno how to do that
[22:55] <micahg> [reed]: comments are imported so only an admin can do it
[22:55] <micahg> [reed]: I'm going to work with someone tomorrow hopefully to fix this issue
[22:55] <[reed]> ugh
[22:55] <micahg> you're already subscribed to the bug 499113
[22:56] <micahg> [reed]: it's a huge problem
[22:56] <[reed]> I'm going to disable launchpad's account in bmo
[22:56] <micahg> [reed]: gmb said he'd look into it tomorow and I'll try to help...
[22:56] <micahg> [reed]: maybe that's best until this is fixed
[22:57] <micahg> [reed]: let me check with them if that'll mess anything up in LP
[22:57] <[reed]> ok
[23:34] <BUGabundo> quick OT poll: what topics would you like to see mention or would talk about in a introduction to Open Source desktop apps, running of a Ubuntu Karmic install ? . feel free to PVT me with ideas