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comawhiteTorch: hahahah00:00
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ddfirethat solved my problem!!!00:03
ddfirenow i have a new one... "Could not create python ScriptEngine for the Plasmacon Widget"00:04
kaddihi, i recently upgraded to kde 4.4. Now everytime I drag a window to the top left of my desktop it gets maximized. I find this seriously annoying but can't seem to find the setting to undo it. Anyone know?00:04
kaddiuh, make that top right00:04
[GuS]ohhh great.. since last updates now i cant log into a terminal (ctrl+alt+f1), has a buggy mix of colors... and i cant do nothing..00:05
comawhitekaddi: you can disable it00:05
kaddicomawhite: where?00:05
inclementkaddi: System settings, Desktop, Screen Edges00:05
comawhiteSystem Settings -> Desktop ->Screen Edges -> Maximise00:05
kaddioh00:06
kaddiwhat does "tile windows by dragging them to he side of the screen" do?00:06
comawhitekaddi: like an MDI client would do00:07
comawhitekaddi: you know the desktop switcher when you have 4 or more00:07
kaddiyes00:08
comawhiteit will continue doing that each time you tile a window00:08
comawhitebasically just like tiles in a bathroom wall00:09
comawhitexD00:09
kaddiuhm, that i don't understand...00:09
kaddioh00:09
kaddilol00:09
comawhitelol00:09
comawhitebetter?00:09
comawhite:P00:09
kaddii just disabled it :p00:10
comawhite00:10
ddfireplease any one... "Could not create python ScriptEngine for the <any widget> Widget"00:14
Greeneryupdate to KDE SC 4.4, my sound can only play one application at a time. Example, if I play music on AMarok first then I open up dragonplayer to play a movie, Dragonplayer will not have sound and notification saying that sound playback doesn't work. Any idea how?00:16
raidlol KDE SC 4.4 update is fucking up for everyone00:16
raidthere are so many threads about it in the kubuntu forums00:17
comawhiteGreenery: try using xine instead of pulseaudio00:18
comawhiteor gstreamer00:18
Greeneryi'm using xine atm00:18
crimsun...PA isn't shipped in Kubuntu. Please actually verify that PulseAudio is in fact running if you're going to suggest that!00:19
comawhitecrimsun: I thought PA was00:19
crimsuncomawhite: no, it isn't. If it were by default, I would have been the one to make it so.00:20
rmrfslashI upgraded to KDE 4.4 however when I login my display is black with t a hugemouse cursor. I have to switch toa VT then back to at least get to the desktop. That procedure seems to work reliably, but this is a mess00:20
comawhitecrimsun: sorry?00:20
crimsuncomawhite: PA isn't shipped by default in Kubuntu. I'm its primary maintainer in Ubuntu; there is much resistance to seeing it seeded by default in Kubuntu.00:21
rmrfslashcan someone please help (if anyone knows how to help w/ this)00:21
macintuxHello Kubuntu IRC, Can someone assist me in remapping the keyboard keys? I want to make the right Apple button be a right click. I do not however want to make a script to run at login i would rather have it always be this way without having to run that script. Can someone assist me?00:21
comawhitecrimsun: yeah that's why I assumed Kubuntu had it00:21
crimsuncomawhite: nope. Neither Xubuntu, Kubuntu, nor Mythbuntu ship it by default.00:22
rmrfslashMy VTs are useless00:23
rmrfslashjust a bunch of colored lines00:23
dmattrmrfslash:  i filed a bug for it https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226392 but it is only for kubuntu, so it should go to launchpad00:23
rmrfslashso should I file in launchpad?00:24
rmrfslashor can you just cut/past into launchpad?00:24
jrmypaquet installé00:24
ddfirermrfslash, i solved something like that instaling desktop-plasma o plasma-desktop00:24
rmrfslashdmatt: is this the same behavior?00:24
jrmyje fait comment maintenant ?00:24
rmrfslashare your VTs completely useless?00:24
macintuxCan Someone help me remap my keyboard in Kubuntu 9.10?00:24
dmattrmrfslash: just color stripes00:25
jrmyfrancais  ?00:25
Greeneryhmmm, I hope my sound playback is KDE SC 4.4 fault00:25
rmrfslashdmatt: do you need  to switch to a VT then back to F7 to see the desktop?00:25
jrmydo you speack french ?00:25
rmrfslashwhen you boot up?00:26
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dmattrmrfslash: I use ALT-E for kdm restart - but it is all written in that bug text00:26
rmrfslashThis is a disaster/00:26
rmrfslashwtf.00:26
rmrfslashI had my machine working perfectly yesterday00:27
jrmybonjour00:27
rmrfslashgot all kinds of issues squared away, skype issues, sound issues00:27
rmrfslashthen I was like "hey kde 4.4"........ f*cked00:27
millunHi00:27
jrmydo you speak frnch N00:27
jrmy?00:27
millunTrying to restore MBR but my /boot is sda5 and / is sda600:28
rmrfslashand I def don't like the VMware logos splattered all over KDE 4.4 now00:28
jrmyfrancais00:28
jrmy???00:28
ddfirermrfslash, try installing plasma-desktop package00:29
ddfireapt-get install ....00:29
dmattrmrfslash: same story here00:29
rmrfslashddfire: plasma-desktop is already the newest version.00:29
jrmydo you speak french ???00:29
rmrfslashthat's all I get from apt-get install plasma-desktop (though I'm not sure why it _woudn't_ be installed)00:30
dmatt!fr00:30
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois00:30
inclementdmatt: It looks like the bug report has been marked 'solved' as requiring just a reboot to fix, but this is wrong?00:30
rmrfslashthat's not a solution00:30
dmattinclement: I rebooted 10x at least00:30
rmrfslashme too00:30
inclementdmatt: I thought so, I have the same problem :)00:31
rmrfslashI send my bug report to Kubuntu with the little Send Bug Report thingie00:31
dmattI saw two new upgrades if it doesnt help I open the same bug on launchpad00:31
rmrfslashprobably just pipes the report to /dev/null00:31
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rmrfslashI have no updates00:32
dmattrmrfslash: it did work for me when I reported bug last time00:32
macintuxIs there a way to turn off the touchpad on my laptop with a key combo??00:32
rmrfslashdamn you kde... you're so beautiful yet so buggy00:32
dmattI have kubuntu-default-settings00:32
rmrfslashI get nothign00:33
rmrfslashapt-get update apt-get upgrade00:33
rmrfslashnothing00:33
rmrfslashnothing in kpackagekit... though I assume it's a frontend to apt-get00:34
dmattcheck current version dpkg -l|grep kubuntu00:34
rmrfslashI have a few things that show up when I run that cmd00:35
rmrfslashall say "ii" next to em00:35
dmattwhat is the version of kubuntu-default-settings ?00:36
rmrfslashii  kubuntu-default-settings                                    1:10.04ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1                      Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu00:36
rmrfslash"for the Kubuntu" heheh00:36
dmattso you already have that upgrade i will apply later00:37
dmattI am going to reboot, upgrade and see what happens00:38
rmrfslashk00:38
dmattand file bug mostly likely00:38
rmrfslashtell me how it goes00:38
dmattyep00:38
jrmyyoooooooooooooooooo00:41
jrmyje suis francais sa va bien ?00:41
kaddi!fr00:41
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois00:41
jrmyre00:42
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macintuxCan someone help me with setting up a hotkey and a keyboard remap?00:45
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k4everhi all.  is there an software button or widget for kde 4 that will activate the cover switch or flip switch desktop effect like there is in windows vista?00:52
Admiral_Chicagohaving an install error...00:54
darthanubisk4ever: alt-tab?00:55
Admiral_Chicagoas I update to Karmic. Kdebase runtime  won't install correctly00:55
Admiral_Chicago trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/plasmapkg', which is also in package libplasma200:55
dmattrmrfslash: still the same.00:55
JontheEchidnak4ever: alt + tab?00:55
rmrfslashI figured00:55
rmrfslashit's s segfault somewhere00:55
JontheEchidnaAdmiral_Chicago: uninstall libplasma2, it's from kde 4.2  times00:55
rmrfslashis there a KDE log?00:55
dmatt/var/log/kdm.log i suppose00:56
Admiral_Chicagothanks JontheEchidna00:56
vicenthello00:56
rmrfslashyeah saw that00:56
rmrfslashno errors in it though00:57
k4everi'm looking for a software button i can add to the panel that will do cover/flip switch.  i use the one in the panel for windows vista at work and its the only thing from vista i like00:58
Admiral_ChicagoJontheEchidna: I removed it but its still throwin the error..... trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/plasmapkg', which is also in package libplasma200:58
dmattrmrfslash: could you pls check, if you have another .kde folder inside standard .kde folder?00:58
jrmyfraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaancais ?00:59
jrmyfrancais00:59
rmrfslashdmatt: i don't00:59
JontheEchidnaAdmiral_Chicago: could you paste the full log at !pastebin please?00:59
poggopI am getting a weird acpi error in dmesg constantly, what does this mean? http://paste.ubuntu.com/374322/  Please help, me entire demsg is this.00:59
rmrfslashdmatt: you mean ~/.kde/.kde?00:59
dmattyep00:59
jrmyje suis francais01:00
Duskaojrmy: nope01:00
jrmyhein ?01:00
Duskao anyone know how to get konqueror to cooperate with getdeb/playdeb?01:01
Admiral_ChicagoJontheEchidna: apparently, not.  Konqueror won't load with a http error...can I message it to you...01:01
JontheEchidnaAdmiral_Chicago: sure01:01
kaddi!fr | jrmy01:01
ubottujrmy: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois01:01
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JontheEchidnaAdmiral_Chicago: ok, do a "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.3.2-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb", which should allow kdebase-runtime to install leaving you to be able to remove libplasma201:03
Admiral_Chicagostill getting an error01:04
rmrfslashdmatt: no, I do not have a ~/.kde/.kde then01:05
Duskaoso?01:12
Duskao anyone know how to get konqueror to cooperate with getdeb/playdeb?01:13
Duskaoor configure konqueror to use apturl-kde with those?01:13
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dmattrmrfslash: I filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/52076201:18
rmrfslashthanks... hopefully they solve it soon01:19
rmrfslashthis is really a drag01:19
rmrfslashI'll second the bug01:19
Duskaormrfslash: whats your issue?01:19
dmattthanks01:19
rmrfslashDusako: look @ the bug report dmatt filed01:19
rmrfslashwe're both using fglrx01:20
dmattrmrfslash: do you have virtualbox installed?01:20
Duskaormrfslash: yeah, just did. I tried it before just reinstalled Kubuntu and I'm sticking with 4.3.2 for a bit01:20
rmrfslashno01:20
Duskaoyeah, fglrx here as well, but I tried it with the regular config as well, got a similar problem that way.01:21
Duskaosorry, by regular config, I mean the open source drivers that come with the default kubuntu configuration.01:22
Duskaoaka Radeon drivers01:22
dmattDuskao: I wanted to test it now but if it did not work for you...01:24
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Duskaodmatt: well, you can always try it, but I didn't have any luck with it.01:24
rmrfslashDusakao: can you supplement the bug report to make it seem like it's a problem. They'll only take the bug seriously if a few ppl are experiencing it.01:27
dmattI am sort of out of ideas what to try next...01:27
rmrfslasheven if you just say "same here"01:28
rmrfslashmaybe I should try reinstalling my graphics driver01:28
rmrfslashnot that that would do anything01:28
dmattI did that already01:28
Duskaodmatt: I got the command line for login. so I did so and tried to start the plasma-desktop from there, but it wouldn't work. Was saying I didn't have X11 installed, so I tried reinstalling it but with no avail01:29
Duskaormrfslash: sure01:29
rmrfslashdmatt: you tried reinstalling the driver?01:30
dmattDuskao: there should be some button "affects me too" or something similar01:30
dmattrmrfslash: yes01:30
dmattI tried older kernel too, same problem01:30
rmrfslashlittle concerning that this is fglrx users... not that this surprises me01:31
NishinWassup01:32
NishinCertainly quieter in here than #ubuntu.01:33
Duskaoposted01:33
NishinWhile I'm here, I may as well ask for a little knowledge.01:34
DuskaoNishin: yep, usually is.01:34
NishinIs anyone here familiar with Wubi?01:34
DuskaoNishin: negative01:34
NishinDuskao: Dang.01:34
DuskaoNishin: I'm sure someone else is though :D01:35
dmattNishin: me little bit01:35
NishinWell, I installed Kubuntu last night with it and it ran as if from a live CD.01:35
DuskaoI'm glad that the kde 4.4 thing isn't only affecting me :d01:35
NishinUhhh...issat supposed to happen?01:35
DuskaoNishin: what do you mean? try to elaborate with that.01:36
dmattNishin: what is the problem?01:36
NishinNo settings/files/programs (etc) are saved on reboot.01:36
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NishinAnd it classes me as "Live session user" if I recall correctly.01:36
DuskaoNishin: you did this from wubi?01:37
NishinMy desktop's Wubi-ing Ubuntu as we speak.01:37
DuskaoNishin: you did remove the disk right?01:37
NishinDuskao: Yes.01:37
dmattNishin: sounds like you forgot CD inside :)01:37
NishinI never had a disk.01:37
DuskaoNishin: unmount the .sio01:37
DuskaoNishin: .iso...01:37
DuskaoNishin: you are likely still running off the disk.01:38
dmattNishin: if you boot into Wubi correctly, you should have boot menu with Ubuntu and windows at the beginning01:38
DuskaoNishin: or .iso as it may be.01:38
Nishindmatt: The installation could have messed up considering I just left Wubi on overnight.01:39
DuskaoNishin: unlikely, but possible. It isn't necessary to leave it for a long period of time, should only take 10 to 15 min with a semi recent computer.01:40
dmattNishin: unlikely01:40
NishinDuskao: Takes several hours for Wubi to download the ISO for the installation, though.01:40
DuskaoNishin: oh right.01:41
NishinI guess I'll see how Ubuntu works.01:41
WalzmynI just made the 4.4 upgrade and I've not got a second panel/taskbar (keep mine on top, this one is on bottom) is this normal?01:41
DuskaoNishin: you should have the ubuntu.iso already though I believe01:42
NishinDuskao: I should? That's news to me.01:42
olskolircI can't save my changes to kmenuedit01:42
DuskaoWalzmyn: how did you upgrade to 4.4? you might have a mish mash of 4.3 and 4.401:42
olskolircok wait01:43
DuskaoNishin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzomQf-N-X0    here's a tutorial for wubi01:43
olskolircI'm on Intrepid Ibex, and I can't save my changes in my kmenuedit01:43
WalzmynI enabled the repo from the website announcement and installed all upgrades01:43
DuskaoWalzmyn: I mean, did you use kpackagekit? apt-get? aptitude? adept????01:44
NishinDuskao: You'll have to forgive my lack of Linux knowledge. I've installed so many Windows packages but not even come near Linux.01:44
DuskaoNishin: everyone starts somewhere.01:44
DuskaoNishin: don't blame me if you get hooked :P01:44
olskolircdo we have a bot here to ask questions?01:45
WalzmynI was just wondering if 4.4 was showing of something new with the new panel01:45
Walzmyn!hi | olskolirc01:45
Duskaoolskolirc: there's a flood bot01:45
ubottuolskolirc: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay!01:45
olskolircI'm on Intrepid Ibex, and I can't save my changes in my kmenuedit01:45
WalzmynWhich one's Ibex, is that 9.10?01:46
NishinDuskao: Hopefully, if I get a new laptop, I can dual boot Ubuntu, since my current 18.6 GB HDD won't do. I have to use my parents' computer for and Linux-ing.01:46
olskolirc8.1001:46
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Walzmynolskolirc: mind if I ask why you're on 8.10?01:47
olskolircthis is the only version that works with my virtualbox.  the others make my vbox audio sound like its under water01:47
Duskaobrb guys01:48
Walzmynolskolirc: ok.01:48
NishinDuskao: Righto.01:49
olskolirchow do I save my kmenu Walzmyn01:49
Duskaonvm, not leaving yet... :P01:49
Walzmynolskolirc: if the save button at the top of the editor dosn't work, i've no idea01:49
DuskaoWalzmyn: I wonder if he somehow lost control of it and will have to use chmod for it. I don't know enough aboutit though to help.01:50
dmattolskolirc: if it is system file, it can be edited only if you run editor wit sudo01:50
olskolircits a program i downloaded01:50
olskolircI can't save no changes in my menu to none of my programs dmatt01:50
DuskaoNishin: honestly, I would just install kubuntu/ubuntu/xubuntu/lubuntu off a live disk anyway, seems easier to me, but whatever.01:50
dmattwhat exactly means change in menu? explain more what you trying to do01:51
diablodfdiscovering password archive .xls?01:51
Walzmynolskolirc: what program did you download?01:53
NishinDuskao: It seems I did what the guy didn't recommend and had Wubi download the ISO.01:54
DuskaoNishin: could have been part of the issue I suppose01:54
NishinGuess I'll torrent that .01:54
DuskaoNishin: I would01:54
olskolircSecond Life01:54
olskolircI had this problem before Walzmyn but I don't remember the bug fix01:55
Walzmynolskolirc: why's second life trying to edit kmenu?01:55
Walzmynolskolirc: oh, yer trying to put second life into your kmenu?01:55
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olskolircanything I untar Walzmyn01:59
olskolircI just did a reinstall and forgot to save the link about the kmenuedit fix02:00
Duskaonow I'll brb02:04
Nishink02:05
dmattI am leaving, only 4 precious hours left for sleep02:11
Nishinrighto02:12
CPrgmSwR2I am having issues with sound only comming out of headphones jack02:13
dmattwell, we have another 36 upgrades rolled out now02:13
CPrgmSwR2I do not have sound out of speakers02:13
dmattI give it a try02:15
RelookNAevening all02:16
Nishinahoy02:17
RelookNAAnybody know why if I accidentally hit "print screen" key , it will give me 10's of snapshots?02:17
RelookNAAll I can do is hit the reset button , it will never stop popping new snapshots02:18
NishinI've no idea. It's a shame our two experts aren't present.02:18
RelookNAok, tks02:18
RelookNAI'll sit around an wait :)02:18
NishinSorry, I'm kinda useless when it comes to Linux. [/newb]02:18
RelookNAme too in alot of ways02:20
RelookNAlinux sat receivers got me hooked on linux originally02:21
NishinI have a desktop downstairs that's Wubi-ing Ubuntu as we speak.02:21
NishinUnfortunately, I went about Kubuntu the wrong way and messed up the Wubi installation02:22
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RelookNAi used to multiboot this desktop, but now a full kubuntu with wine instead02:24
RelookNAleft the oother desktop as winblows for the wife :)02:24
NishinI'm using Wubi to see how Linux is.02:25
NishinI''m a long-time user of Windows (XP FTW).02:25
RelookNAyep, dunno till you test it out :)02:25
dmattlast upgrade did not solve KDM login issue02:29
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CPrgmSwR2I have a Nvidia sound card Codec: Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) and I cannot get sound to come out of my speakers02:37
kaddihi, eversince the update to kernel 31-19 my fans seem to be constantly running. Is there anything I can do to reduce that? (lower temp or reduce fan rotation? )02:39
macintuxAnyone know why Amarok doesn't work with LastFM? - "Paying subscription needed"02:43
macintuxThis place seems empty02:44
Duskaomacintux: pretty sure you need a subscription02:49
macintuxDuskao: It's free on LastFM's client. And I'm in the USA, I think only non US need subscript.02:49
Duskaomacintux: guess thats why I need one.02:49
macintuxDuskao: You know how to remap keys in Kubuntu or how to change the appearance of Amarok back to the older version?02:50
Duskaomacintux: you have to download the themes for amarok. Check out settings... trying to remember where the key bindings are in there...02:53
macintuxDuskao: I need to remap the Apple's Eject button, the Right apple key to F12/Mouse Right Click.02:54
bobbob1016I went to 4.4 and I now have some weird artifacting at the top of my left screen:  http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1_1.1265943175.png  I have an Nvidia card with closed drivers and compiz running, but I still get the artifacting with kwin, any ideas?02:54
Duskaomacintux: settings -> keyboard & mouse might have what you are looking for.02:55
Duskaobobbob1016: I would submit a bug. There are still lots of bugs with kde 4.4. Us poor ati users can't even get past the kdm...02:56
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macintuxDuskao: That doesn't work sadly, I tried that already, =( You wouldnt happen to know how to disable my touchpad temporarily either would you>02:56
Hellmark[S10e]Duskao, what bug are you having?02:56
Duskaomacintux: sorry man. I don't run linux on a mac. No clue.02:56
macintuxDuskao: I'm definately not a mac person either. I had two laptop die on me and this was sitting around. Its a PITA xD I'm used to running Linux on a Desktop. I havent really used (k)ubuntu since 6.x02:57
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: when I upgraded to 4.4 I would get a black screen, then freeze. Then after restart cli. after trying to start plasma-desktop from cli it would say that X11 isn't installed (it is) tried reinstalling it. Didn't work. Tried with fglrx and Radeon drivers.02:58
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: I already commented on a bug on lauchpad.03:00
Hellmark[S10e]Duskao, I had something similar.03:01
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: you fixed it?03:01
Hellmark[S10e]black screen, then it puked a message bitching about low resolution mode.03:01
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: yeah, some others have had that as well.03:01
Hellmark[S10e]cursor wouldn't move, keyboard nonresponsive.03:02
Hellmark[S10e]had to do a hard reset03:02
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: exactly03:02
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: how'd you fix it?03:02
Hellmark[S10e]I upgraded every single package, and I can get KDE to start now,03:02
Hellmark[S10e]but03:02
Hellmark[S10e]I still get the random freezes03:03
DuskaoHellmark[S10e]: yeah, still lots of fixed need to be done for 4.4 I'm amazed it's released to be honest.03:03
Hellmark[S10e]ditto03:03
Hellmark[S10e]Right now, I said fuck it, and just dropped on IceWM03:04
Duskaolol03:04
Duskaowell, I gotta run. Catch you later.03:04
twoten_I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 on my machine, and all the sytem dialogs are being rendered in a totally unreadable font, how can I change this when all the dialogs are gibberish?03:09
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deadducki'm having a problem. I just upgraded my kubuntu to kde 4.4 and now as soon as kdm loads the computer turns itself off immediately unless i run startx as root. anyone have any ideas how I can debug this?03:40
RaNdYHi, I was updating to bash 4.1 when I've accidentally deleted /bin/bash which was my default. And now I can't login to the system, any ideas on how to enter the system again?03:43
deadduckRaNdY, restore it from the live cd maybe03:44
RaNdYWill that work fine? Because system is still online now, maybe other ways to enter it?03:46
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PlanetaryI am soo sick of flash not being smooth03:54
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lucituhi..where can I change the default image for the caps?04:01
rex_testing testing04:01
satepcI installed 4.4, and now my network manager won't open..04:14
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satepcof buzz off 242 users on,everyons afk04:20
snarkfishanyone else having issues with adding printers in kde4.304:26
snarkfishi cant seem to remove printer after they are installed04:27
snarkfishthe printers that are installed dont work anymore04:28
snarkfishwhen i go to add a new printer it shows HP_LaserJet_5SiMX @ (server name) with this showing in the Device URL dnssd://HP_LaserJet_5SiMX%20%40%20Max._ipp._tcp.local/cups04:30
snarkfishanyone alive in here?04:45
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rafase282hello05:02
rafase282can someone help me with my hdd?05:03
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rmrfslashdmatt: you there?05:23
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vbgunzany solution to the nepomuk agent disabled? nepomuk not running?06:12
vbgunzalso any fix for tty 1 thorugh 6?06:12
vbgunzI can no longer access those tty06:12
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vbgunzgonna try something06:17
xjjkhello, anyone else using Konsole with KDE 4.4? I'm having a font rendering problem06:19
xjjkhttp://caligula.rhombic.net/~xjjk/konsole-clipped.png <- that, stuff is clipped with certain fonts (Inconsolata on the left, DejaVu Sans mono on the right)06:20
xjjkcan someone confirm?06:20
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user___hello06:41
user___I've got a big problem06:41
user___I need kde 4.3 under jaunty06:41
user___but the backports doesn't contain anymore 4.306:41
user___or do they?06:41
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Zoot365hi room06:43
Zoot365I read this in a set of instructions I wes following: $ sudo gedit /etc/rc.local06:44
Zoot365You can put the following blue line to /etc/rc.local (before the "exit 0" line) so it's set at boot up:06:44
Zoot365when he says blue line, is he just talking out of idiom.06:45
robwlo531Hi, I'm using kubuntu 9.10 and had the beta repository active for getting the latest KDE SC. How can I "upgrade" to the KDE SC 4.4 in the backports now?06:46
user___look at www.kubuntu.org. I tried to upgrade yesterday and my system crashed.06:47
robwlo531user: looked at that page before and also have the backports repo active. but i don't get the SC 4.4 packages listed as updates to my beta packages.06:51
user___konsole: sudo apt-get upgrade06:53
user___and konsole: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:53
user___but i wouldn't do it06:53
user___a lot of users have problems with kdm06:53
robwlo531user: tried it, but still there's nothing to update06:54
robwlo531user: i just want to update amarok ;-)06:54
user___:-)06:54
user___first a sudo apt-get update and then upgrade and dist-upgrade?06:55
robwlo531user: exactly, but no updates occur06:55
user___you have really added the backports? I mean you can see an active backport source in kpackagekit?06:56
robwlo531deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic-backports restricted main multiverse universe06:57
robwlo531deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main06:57
robwlo531deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/beta/ubuntu karmic main06:57
robwlo531user: this is how the last lines look in my sources.list06:57
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poyntzthe last upgrade killed plasma desktop06:58
poyntzcan anyone help me get it back?06:58
spacitymedichelp!!!! hOW DO I install software for lightscribe that i just downloaded... i have the rpg file thing...06:58
user___you don't have the right one i think06:58
robwlo531user: which one is the right one then?06:59
user___try this: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main06:59
user___poyntz: problem with kdm?07:00
spacitymedicanyone have some advice on how to install software?07:00
robwlo531user: okay that looks a bit different, however poyntz just scared me ;-)07:00
spacitymedici know i ahve to go to terminal... but i cant remember what i put in there.. sudo apt-get something... right?07:00
user___yeah there is a problem with kdm. Some graphic problem07:00
user___sud apt-get install07:01
user___sudo apt-get install07:01
spacitymedicok and then the full file name with the extention?07:01
devslashcoresudo apt-get install <name of package>07:01
spacitymedicDO I USE THE <> brackets?07:02
user___no07:02
spacitymedicand i saved the package in my documents folder07:02
spacitymedic is there any specific place I need to put it?07:02
poyntzuser___: possibly. i'm trying a sudo aptitude dist-upgrade at the mo, seeing if it fixes the issue...07:03
poyntzuser___: ot07:03
user___no with this method you won't dowonload it at any place07:03
poyntzuser___: it's a plasma worspace issue07:03
spacitymedici already went to the lacie's website and downloaded it.07:03
spacitymedicim trying to install the linux version of lightscribe so i can do direct disk labelling07:04
devslashcoreis it a .so executable?07:04
user___spacitymedic: if you have a .deb package you can just click on it and it will install07:04
devslashcoreor a package like .deb .rpm etc07:04
spacitymedici dont though....07:04
spacitymedici have rpm07:05
user___spacitymedic: wrong package you ned .deb. so breakfast. nice day07:05
dmattpoyntz: what exactly is yoyr problem?07:05
devslashcorerpm packages are for Red Hat based distros07:06
poyntzdmatt: lost plasma desktop on the last update07:06
devslashcoreKubuntu is based on Debien (deb)07:06
devslashcoreMight be possible to convert it...never tried07:06
devslashcoreAnd I heard Synaptic can handle rpms07:06
dmattpoyntz: what happens when you boot , where it breaks?07:06
robwlo531poyntz: once you have the deb package you do: dpkg -i <package-name>07:07
robwlo531user: it worked. I just updated amarok only and disabled that repository again07:08
robwlo531thnx07:08
burrellнид хелп, комрады :)07:10
poyntzdmatt: it breaks after log in. kde wallet starts up, nepomuk, virtuoso-server, but plasma workspace crashes07:10
robwlo531okay, amarok still has that bug not allowing to scroll the lyrics07:10
robwlo531burrell: LOL07:10
poyntz!rus|burrell07:10
vish!rus | burrell07:10
burrellbetter in english?07:11
vishyup07:11
robwlo531poyntz: that is in english letter-by-letter: need help, comrads07:11
dmattpoyntz: have you upgraded to KDE 4.3.5, 4.4 or some regular update?07:12
poyntzdmatt: it was a regular update07:13
poyntzdmatt: i'm gunna reboot now n see if the dist-upgrade fixed it07:15
poyntzbrb07:15
burrelli'am want to edit my login screen - automatic log in by my default profile. So i've run  manager and saw innactive controls  except Unlock button - I'am pressing this button but there is no effect. What shall i do ?07:15
burrellsorry for my english )07:16
poyntzk literally all i've lost07:22
poyntzis the plasmoids07:22
poyntzand plasma desktop07:22
poyntzwhen i try to run plasma-desktop07:22
poyntzit says it's not installed. install it by installing...07:22
poyntzno idea why07:22
poyntzgiven i had it before i had the update07:22
poyntzso... do i reinstall plasma desktop?07:23
poyntzwhat do i do?07:23
vbgunzI created a whole new profile and nepomuk is still shot with disabling itself. in other words, no moving of the .kde//nepomuk folder is gonna help there. anyone know whats up?07:24
poyntzvbgunz: you might need to install virtuoso-opensource, but i'm not really sure..07:25
poyntzok lit, everyone who was here07:45
poyntzthe last update i did, removed plasma-desktop07:45
poyntzso it may happen to you...07:45
poyntzif it does, just install it again07:45
poyntzie, sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop07:45
poyntzi was wondering how to make the quick launch prog (ie, Alt+F2) appear in the centre of the screen07:46
xjjkpoyntz: it's in the options07:47
xjjkpoyntz: select "floating"07:47
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tamranhello everyone08:08
tamranI've broken my system trying to do the backports update of kde4 :)08:09
tamranso I'm stuck in console and I'm sort of a dumb-dumb with aptitude08:09
tamranit said I had to use aptitude or synaptic to fix my package dependencies issue08:09
tamrancan anyone give me any hints of how to fix such dependencies in aptitude (the console version)?08:10
tamranmany thanks in advance08:10
esdanieltamram: have you run aptitude again using --full-upgrade ? i.e. sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade08:11
tamranesdaniel: ok, I'll do that in the other console08:11
tamranesdaniel: it's chugging away now08:12
tamranesdaniel: thanks for that08:12
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tamranwell, let's see if that fixed everything08:16
human_Gentlemen!08:18
tamranerrr, ok, one more question08:18
human_I have just found how to set the kubuntu desktop as normal desktop from 3.5 KDE08:19
tamranis there a quick way to go back to the kde login prompt, I'm stuck in console mode (I clicked console login from the kde login panel because I had broken my system)?08:19
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human_sudo killlall -9 Xorg08:19
human_it kills X Server08:19
human_and restarts kdm login window08:20
human_How do you in IRC from console08:20
esdanielsudo service kdm restart08:20
tamranhuman_: I've already killed the Xorg client when it booted me to the console08:21
tamranwhat is the executable name for the kde login thingy?08:21
human_kdm08:21
human_the name is kdm08:21
tamranahhh08:21
tamranok, brb08:21
tamranthanks human_08:22
tamranhuman_: to do irc in the console, install irssi ... it's the best irc app EVER! :)08:22
human_ok)))08:22
human_I can use the desktop without the "Show folder" widget08:24
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human_I had to set "Show Folder" instead of "Desktop" in the "Room" settings!08:25
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human_What for a terminology is that?08:25
poyntzxjjk: thanks. that did it! :)08:25
poyntzciao folks08:25
tamranok ... I've officially broken my system08:33
tamranI tried to upgrade to kde4.4 and the packages are broken08:33
tamranis there an aptitude command to "agressively" fix such dependency problems?08:34
xjjkif they're broken08:38
xjjkit means they can't be fixed automatically08:38
xjjkthat's what broken means08:38
xjjker, not fixed without breaking something you've fixed previously08:38
xjjktamran: what's the problem in particular08:38
tamranxjjk: I tried to install kde4.4 using the backports repository ...08:39
xjjkokay...08:39
xjjkyou're using aptitude, which is good08:39
xjjkfixing dep problems with synaptic and kpackagekit is a painful chore08:40
tamranwell, I'm using aptitude now because I'm stuck in console :P08:40
xjjkhaha, okay08:40
xjjkwhat's broken?08:40
tamranI'm not sure which ones08:40
xjjkwith aptitude08:40
xjjkhit '/'08:40
tamranok, you mean inside the program?08:41
xjjkand then '~b'08:41
xjjktamran: yes08:41
tamranok, it brought up a search window08:41
tamranit says kdelib508:41
xjjkthat should highlight the first broken package08:41
tamranwith a BuA in front of it08:41
tamranB means "broken" I take it?08:42
xjjkin the bottom half of the window08:42
xjjkit should say what the problem is08:42
tamranok, one sec08:42
xjjkthis or that conflicts with kdelibs508:42
xjjkor vice versa08:42
tamranhmm, it just describes the program in the bottom.  do you mean in the red part?08:43
xjjkno08:43
xjjkhrm, if it's not saying08:43
xjjkjust hit '+' in the package list view08:44
xjjkto force installing it08:44
xjjkit may break more packages, or fewer packages08:44
xjjksee the status bar along the top08:44
tamranok08:44
xjjkkeep doing that for all the broken packages08:44
xjjktill the number of broken packages or down08:44
xjjkor look for a description saying why things are broken08:45
tamranit showed two lines in the bottom when I pressed +08:45
xjjktamran: also... in the status column, where you saw the 'B'08:45
xjjkis the presence of 'A'08:45
xjjkwhich means automatic08:45
xjjkwhich is probably the problem here08:46
xjjkthere's some package that should be automatic08:46
xjjkbut is set to manually installed08:46
tamranahh08:46
xjjkso, aptitude treats manually installed packages are more important08:46
tamranso, am I going to have to go through and manually fix each problem ?08:46
xjjkyah08:46
xjjkthe best strategy is to look through all the broken packages08:46
xjjkand find a broken one that isn't automatically installed08:46
tamranis there any way to get an output of all the errors?08:46
tamranI could pipe it08:47
tamranjust to give a better understanding08:47
xjjkprobably, I don't know how off the top of my head08:47
tamranok, no problem08:47
xjjkit's the kind of thing you want to fix interactively08:47
xjjkalso, once you've gotten the number of broken packages done08:47
xjjkhit 'g'08:47
tamranwhen I've got a package selected, what is the key to "uninstall" it?08:47
xjjkand aptitude will run its solver08:47
xjjkand try to automatically fix everything08:47
xjjkyou probably have only one or two packages you need to fix08:48
xjjkit's not that much work08:48
tamranI see08:48
xjjktamran: '-' means uninstall, '_' means purge08:48
xjjk'?' for help08:48
xjjktamran: should mention, you probably don't want to mess with libraries like kdelibs08:49
xjjkthose are typically automatically installed, and if they're not08:49
xjjkhit 'M'08:49
xjjkif it's not required, aptitude will automatically mark it for uninstallation08:49
tamranok, so I hit - and it shows purple instead of red now08:49
xjjkthat means uninstall08:49
tamranand then how to uninstall it?08:50
tamrang?08:50
xjjkyes, g means apply solver08:50
xjjkit'll show the changes it's about to make08:50
xjjkthen hit g again to go08:50
xjjkdownload/remove/install/etc08:50
xjjkyou should really read the help before messing with most of this, BTW08:50
tamranxjjk: yeah, I should read the help ... I'm assuming you mean man file?08:52
xjjktamran: no, the stuff under '?'08:53
tamranok, I think I know what I should do ... perhaps remove the ppa repository?08:53
xjjkor perhaps the aptitude online manual08:53
xjjkthe man page is pretty worthless08:53
xjjktamran: I'd not do that, the problem is probably simple to fix08:53
tamranok08:53
xjjkyou'll have more headaches trying to go back08:53
xjjkno one tests downgrading/going back08:53
tamranB means blocked? b means broken?08:54
xjjkB is broken I think, not sure what 'b' is08:54
tamranoh, ok, I just found a lot of "B"s08:54
xjjkyah08:54
tamranbutt loads of 'em :)08:54
xjjkhow many08:54
xjjkyou want to try to find the problem package08:54
xjjkif there are a lot of them, they probably depend one thing08:55
xjjkand that one thing may be the problem08:55
xjjkand it may conflict with something else08:55
xjjkhrm, also08:55
tamranyeah, a lot of them say "xxxx is only partially installed"08:56
xjjkyah, it means what it says08:56
tamranand they're not in red08:56
xjjkleave those alone08:56
tamranthanks a lot for your time by the way, I promise to pay it forward08:56
xjjkthey'll install themselves whenever the problem is fixed08:56
xjjktamran: NP... fixing dependency problems is a skill to learn08:56
tamranok, going to other window for a few08:57
xjjksure08:57
tamranonly 2 packages show in red08:57
xjjkoh, good08:57
xjjkdo you mind me asking, what are they?08:57
audraHOW CAN I GET DESKTOP EFFECTS TO WORK IN KUBUNTU? I TRIED COMPIZ FUZION AND I STILL DONT SEE HOW TO GET MY DESKTOP TO MAKE THE CUBE..... help?08:57
audraHELP?? ANYONE ?08:58
tamranxjjk: ok, I think for sure it's kdelib5-dev ... it's stuck on the old version.  When I find it using / and ~b, it has BuA.  If I type m it removes the A.  Then I press g and it goes to a purple screen with some details.  then press g again and it all resets with the same errors09:03
tamranyeah, the only one in red is kdelib5-dev, version 4.3.5 ... which is the old version09:04
tamrannow it gives me elaborate instructions ...09:07
georg_is here anyone having trouble with nepomuk after upgrade to kde4.4 too09:10
tamranok, it was kdevelop-dev 4.3.9909:11
tamrandunno why I had that installed09:11
tamrangeorg_: what's nepomuk?09:11
georg_that the indexing server09:12
georg_semantic desktop search09:12
tamranyay, no more broken packages09:14
tamranbut I should reboot now09:14
tamranbbl09:14
tamranuggg, I finally got all the kde 4.4 stuff install (from console) but when I get to kdm, it says it can't find the oxegyn theme and then kicks me back to console09:21
tamrananyone else get that problem?09:21
human_tamran, you have to install the oxygen themes09:28
human_I have not install 4.409:29
human_but last time I have lost my system after installing updates. So I have now no-updated but working system, installed from CD09:29
koltrollGuys. I kinda fucked up... so I wanted to activate wobbly windows right. Cause it's so great. But I went to advance settings and drag some thing up to 100, belive it was called "Stiffness" or something like that. Now shit is totally crazy. :>09:37
koltrollIs there some file where these settings are saved so I can get into consol and fix it?09:38
koltrollIf someone wants to get some silly effects all over the screen I deeply recommend this.09:38
Torchkoltroll: $HOME/.kde/share/config/kwinrc09:44
Torchkoltroll: each effect has its own section, you should be able to find it09:44
koltrollTorch, found it. thanks a lot!09:46
timhi, i am trying to set up kontact for using a kolab groupware server without much success ... `add address book' contains an entry `kolab groupware server', but i cannot select it ... any idea, why?10:08
phoenix__hello everyone10:08
phoenix__what is a blocked update10:08
phoenix__it shows up in the kpackagekit10:09
phoenix__hello10:09
voicuI think it's an update that would need you to upgrade some critical parts like the kernel10:14
voicudo this: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:14
bottigerWhen I log into kde plasma-desktop doesn't start - what could prevent this? When I start plasma-desktop manually it works fine10:15
koltrollHow do I get this thing where the window automatically get's maximized when I drag it to the top of the screen? Like in WIn7.10:15
phoenix__i recently i enabled the backports and pre releases options10:15
koltrollI saw it on the kde4.x screencast the other day, but I can't find how to activate it. Also I don't know what it's called so I don't know what to search for.10:15
koltrollI'd be very glad if I just got the help to find out what it's beeing called :)10:15
Mitschelkoltroll: are you using kde 4.4.x or 4.3.x?10:16
koltrollMitschel, The one that shipped with 9.1010:16
voicuphoenix__: then that's the thing, you need to use dist-upgrade10:16
phoenix__ok i will try that10:16
Mitschelthats 4.3.x you need 4.4.x for that feature10:17
koltrollooh that makes sense :)10:17
phoenix__started the process10:17
Mitschelcheck www.kubuntu.org for an instruction how to update your kde10:17
koltrollAnd it's kinda recommended to do that update anyways, isn't it Mitschel ?10:17
Mitscheldepends ;-)10:17
koltroll:) Well I mean it's ought to be stable10:18
phoenix__how can i know what was changed and what been installed newly10:18
Mitschel4.4 just hit the "final" stage10:18
phoenix__4.4 due reliese in april?10:18
koltrollgreat :) I'll check out kubuntu on how to update kde. Thanks alot Mitschel10:18
Mitschelyeah it should be stable, but a lot people have some problems me included ;-)10:18
voicudid they fix the issue with the shortcuts in konqueror? :P10:18
koltrollMitschel, what sorts of problems ?10:19
Mitscheli have still some problems with akonadi and nepomuk (nepomuk doesnt run flawlessly)10:20
Mitschelmy sound driver is crashing often10:21
Mitscheland i had some problems during booting due to some misssing files in the main theme, but that seems to be fixed10:21
DoDiI have problems with multi-monitor setup10:22
koltrollDoDi, really? Cause that's a HUGE thing for me. I use two monitors.10:22
koltrollAnd I need it to work10:22
DoDime210:22
phoenix__there is some problem with the nvidia driver . for every kernel update you have you reinstall the driver10:22
DoDiproblem with nvidia driver or setup. 2 monitors working, but only as clones10:23
koltrollI've got ati radeon 477010:23
TorchDoDi: the nvidia driver has nothing to do with kde, though.10:23
Mitschelif you want a stable version of kubuntu, i'd say stay with kde 4.3 and wait till 10.04 to use 4.410:24
fatumI just bricked my ubuntu installation (kde 4.4 was on the installation).  I'm going to get gparted, and format down again.  It was very easy to update to 4.4, and I really liked 4.4.  Will this be easy if I just use the kubuntu 9.10 installation image?10:25
Mitschelits really easy to update from a vanilla 9.10 to kde 4.4 fatum but no guarantee that it runs without any problems afterwards10:27
fatumkde 4.4 was working out great for me.  Thanks for the input, I'll give it a shot!10:27
DoDiTorch: System Settings, Multiple Monitors says: You do not appear to have this configuration10:27
TorchDoDi: right.10:28
TorchDoDi: if you have nvidia, you can't use that10:28
TorchDoDi: the nvidia driver doesn't support it.10:28
TorchDoDi: just use nvidia's tool.10:28
DoDiTorch: which tool?10:31
Mitschelnvidid10:31
TorchDoDi: nvidia-settings10:31
koltrollMitschel, is it really easy to downgrade to 4.3 as well? :)10:31
TorchDoDi: works fine.10:31
DoDiTorch: no such tool :-(10:31
TorchDoDi: install it. the package has the same name.10:32
raymearsnot sure whether this is the right place to ask questions regarding kde 4.4 from backports, but... i'm experiencing some really annoying issues here. could anyone perhaps help me out?10:33
koltroll:)10:33
raymearsmay i ask  my questions?10:33
koltroll"don't ask to ask, just ask"10:34
Torchraymears: just ask.10:34
phoenix__the problem is not with the nvidia setup10:34
raymearsokydoke, here goes the problem:10:34
phoenix__after i upgrade my kernel,the kde wont start10:35
raymearsplasma-desktop does not start automatically, i always have to start it by hand; also i can't change the workspace styles. it click apply.. and nothing happens10:35
phoenix__i have to reinstall the driver to get the kde back10:35
Koliai get problem each time i upgrade the kernel too.. nvidia card here too :S10:35
raymearsbefore 4.4 came out, i used the RCs from the BETA repository10:36
Torchraymears: try it with a new user.10:36
erinaceus_Morning, quick question, what parameter das chmod need so it changes the premissions of a folder and all that is in that folder?10:36
Torcherinaceus_: -R10:36
phoenix__kolia reinstall the driver each time u upgrade the kernel10:36
erinaceus_Torch: thx10:36
Torcherinaceus_: also, "man chmod" ;-)10:36
raymearsTorch: i tried removing .kde, i thought that would perhaps do the trick10:36
raymearsit didn't10:37
Torchraymears: yeah, that should get you the same effect10:37
erinaceus_Torch: Heh10:37
Torchraymears: then your installation is probably broken10:37
raymearsTorch: but aptitude is ok with everything10:37
raymearsshould i purge kubuntu-desktop?10:37
koltrollis it not possible to mount a iso-file from within dolphin?10:38
Torchkoltroll: i don't think so. the feature is being worked on iirc.10:39
koltrollmeh :/ Could you recommend some program to use for it Torch ?10:39
Torchkoltroll: sorry, no. i just mount isos from the shell.10:40
koltrollyou hacker!10:40
raymearsTorch: don't mean to intrude or anything, but... how does one go about fixing a broken installation of which the package manager isn't actually aware of?10:41
Torchraymears: hard to tell because it's not clear IF the installation is broken in your case and if so WHICH PART is broken.10:42
Torchraymears: you might try reinstalling all kdebase and kdelibs packages, but that's just an unfounded shot in the dark, really.10:42
raymearsTorch:10:43
raymearsTorch: i'll just try and purge kubuntu-desktop and see what happens after i reinstall. doing that equates to starting from scratch, kde-wise10:44
raymearsTorch: thanks for your help10:45
Torchraymears: i have no experience with the graphical pacackers... on the shell, purging kubuntu desktop with apt-get will not help. it's a meta package, afaik.10:45
ct529hi there. Today I get a strange error: akonadi server not registered at d--bus .... but until yesterday everything was fine.10:55
ct529any clue?10:56
EruaranProblem affecting kubuntu boot after updating to KDE SC 4.4 has been fixed11:04
EruaranI can now boot normally without having to resort to ctrl+alt+F8 & ctrl+alt+F711:04
DoDiTorch, now I can use both monitors, but saving to X config file fails (parse error)11:05
KoliaDoDi: did you ran it with sudo?11:05
Kolia(nvidia settings) ^11:05
DoDiKolia, no, from history. do I need a terminal for running with su/sudo?11:07
KoliaDoDi: sudo nvidia-settings from a terminal yep11:08
TorchDoDi: open konsole. run "kdesudo nvidia-settings"11:08
KoliaDoDi: you can't save to X if you don't run it as sudo11:08
KoliaDoDi: because it save a file in /etc/ which belongs to root.11:08
Mitschelsaving to X with nvidia settings brings always a seg fault on my other pc no matter if im root or not11:09
raymears_Torch: remember me from 20 minutes ago? :) i removed everything kde-related and still, no cigar. got any other ideas as to what i might try to get a normal instance of kde?11:10
KoliaMitschel: nvidia-settings has always been reliable here. (i know, it doesn't help you :p )11:10
DoDiKolia, many errors from sudo: xorg.conf incomplete, undefined device (Null), Segmentation fault11:11
funcrushhi all!11:11
Torchraymears_: not really. the problem should be properly diagnosed and i know too little about the startup process and plasma to help you with that. i'd suggest asking on #kde.11:11
raymears_Torch: oh, so you think it's not a packaging issue, but rather a kde related problem?11:12
KoliaDoDi: sudo nvidia-xconfig (to have a fresh xorg.conf file)11:12
Koliaand then nvidia-settings11:12
Torchryanakca: no, i wouldn't say that. it's not clear what it is. hence the need to diagnose it.11:12
Koliausuall it makes the trick here11:12
funcrushI played a Movie but after play amarok, the movie doesn't sound! how can i fix it?11:12
raymears_Torch: cause i think the people on #kde will tell me to go screw myself, since they don't care about distro-specific issues11:13
Koliaraymears_: your problem is?11:13
Torchraymears_: they might.11:13
raymears_Kolia: my problem is that plasma-desktop doesn't startup, i have to start it manually11:13
Koliaraymears_: you're sure you updated everything?11:13
raymears_Kolia: aaaand... i cannot apply different themes in kde11:14
Koliawhen you run apt-get upgrade it doesn't complain about some packages not going to be installed, or blocked?11:14
raymears_nono. it runs smoothly but.. a bit of history here:11:14
raymears_i've been using the RCs for 4.4 since... the beginning..  from the BETA repository11:14
raymears_i've always had slight dependency issues, every time i updated.. but i fixed them...11:15
Koliaraymears_: i was running it from BETA too11:15
raymears_the issue of plasma-deskop not starting actually arose.. before 4.4 came out11:15
Koliaand it went rather fine11:15
raymears_before i switched to backports again11:16
raymears_but the dependencies are ALL satisfied.11:16
Koliaweird11:16
raymears_first thing i tried to fix things was to remove the .kde directory. didn't do squat11:17
DoDiKolia, same problems :-(11:17
DoDiKolia, the xorg.conf file seems to be okay - what should it contain?11:17
Koliaraymears:and you said you even tried to remove .kde ?11:17
KoliaDoDi: i don't know the details sorry :)11:17
raymears_Kolia:  yes yes. not only that.. but 20 minutes ago.. after a brief chat with Torch, i remove everything kde-related11:17
raymears_and reinstalled kubuntu-desktop11:17
raymears_Kolia: so it is not a packaging issue. the problem lies somewhere deeper, but i still think it's distro-specific11:19
TorchDoDi: something like that: http://pastebin.ca/179448011:19
TorchDoDi: the twinview and metamodes lines are crucial11:19
DoDiI'll try Ubuntu now, it showed similar problems. cu11:19
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raymears_Kolia: http://pastebin.ca/1794481 here you are, if you still don't believe me :P11:20
Koliaraymears_: i do believe you11:21
raymears_Kolia: this shit is weird! why would it behave like this even AFTER i reinstalled kde?11:22
Koliaraymears_: yep :/11:23
jrmysalut les gens sa va bien ?11:24
raymears_what can i do to really start from scratch? to ditch everything and take it from the top. cleanly?11:24
Koliaraymears_:  did you ask in #kde finally?11:24
jrmyhein ?11:24
Koliajrmy: !fr11:24
jrmytu baise ? :11:24
jrmyj'aime pas l'anglais11:24
Torch!fr11:24
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois11:24
raymears_i could.. but i think they'll just flame me out...11:24
Torchraymears_: ask how you can diagnose it. don't ask to have it fixed for you ;-)11:25
raymears_Torch: ok. thanks for the hint.11:28
ct529I get a strange error: akonadi server process not registered at d--bus. What does that mean?11:40
Torchct529: probably that akonadi isn't running. maybe it couldn't start or crashed.11:45
delphinehello11:45
ct529Torch: well, yes of course .... :D .... but I need to know the error source to fix it11:45
delphineI have a very strange problem since updating to KDE 4.411:45
delphineie. I can't type any composed characters in KDE applications11:46
delphine¨a11:46
Torchct529: try "akonadictl start" from a shell11:46
delphineFrench keyboard, system French11:46
Torchdelphine: set your keyboard map to non-deadkeys11:46
ct529Torch: yes, already done same problem11:46
delphineTorch: thanks, how?11:47
ct529Torch: I have also tried the jacob steelsmith patch but does not work11:47
Torchdelphine: systemsettings -> regional & language -> keyboard layout11:47
delphine¨o11:47
Torchct529: what's the output when you run that command?11:48
delphine¨a11:50
soeehi11:50
delphineTorch: not working :(11:50
delphinenote it really only affects KDE applications11:51
delphineall otehrs are ok11:51
delphine*others11:51
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Soul_Sample_whenever i install an update that's related to KDE (kdelibs, plasma or such) my x crashes and I have to restart my pc. is this normal behaviour when updating kde lol?12:08
otswimwhat would be a good voip application for kde?12:09
otswimto make calls to phones12:11
Soul_Sample_skype?12:11
otswimSoul_Sample_: skype doesn't allow free calls to landline phones i think12:12
Soul_Sample_otswim: i'm not sure anyone allows free calls12:13
otswimSoul_Sample_: there are free calls for some destinations, on windows i use this one http://www.voipcheap.com/en/index.html and it works12:13
otswimhm, it seems x-lite is the linux equivalent12:14
Soul_Sample_did anyone have crashing issues after updating to kde 4.412:20
EruaranSoul_Sample_: yes, Plasma kept crashing12:24
Soul_Sample_Eruaran: i get crashes even when I install updates. x crashes so hard i have to restart12:25
EruaranSoul_Sample_: I backed up my .kde folder and it was ok after that... I had one crash after the last round of updates and notifications duplicated near the top right corner of my desktop12:26
EruaranSoul_Sample_: I'm just going to keep updating12:26
Soul_Sample_Eruaran: i'll try with the .kde folder backup if it happens again, i just hope it won't12:27
EruaranSoul_Sample_: a lot of changes in 4.4... renaming my .kde so it wouldn't be used made a lot of issues go away12:28
Soul_Sample_Eruaran: i will try that, thanks12:28
Soul_Sample_Eruaran: what settings are stored there? I mean - what will I lose and have to do over?12:29
ct529orgh! where is akonadi konsole in kde 440 sc????12:30
EruaranSoul_Sample_: custom settings like Plasma widgets and wallpaper settings etc... email and stuff... but nothing you cant change later12:30
kaddihi my firefox segfaults whenever I maximize a video in youtube. How can I get more information about the error to make a good bug report? eg get a trace or something for FF?12:34
* Malin_ testet en usb-pinne med remix på bærbaren her12:35
Malin_ting funket jo :) hehe12:35
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Mamarokkaddi: run it with gdb for example12:49
Dario_AndresSimple question, is "libdbusmenu-qt" a Kubuntu technology ?12:58
delightwere can I file a bug about kubuntu-ppa/backports kde sc 4.4 ?13:03
delightanyways ... just for the record "User Management" in systemsettings is not working in KDE SC 4.4 on ubuntu 9.1013:05
keekdownесть кто русский13:05
TorchDario_Andres: http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/dbusmenu/index.html13:07
Dario_AndresTorch: nice, we have a bug report about it... I should probably assign aurelian and mark as downstream13:08
Dario_Andresaurelien*13:08
TorchDario_Andres: sounds reasonable13:08
BluesKajHey all13:08
Dario_AndresTorch: thanks  :)13:08
TorchDario_Andres: yw ;-)13:09
koltrollIs it possible to choose to always use nautilis instead of konqueror in kde?13:15
MamarokDario_Andres: assign riddell and agateau13:15
Dario_AndresMamarok: oki13:15
tiresiashello, does anyone know where is the option to disable the logging notifications in quassel (i.e. messages from the server like "sbdy has joined #kubuntu")13:16
kaddiMamarok: can you help me with gdb? I'm having a stupid moment (once again). I installed gdb, debugging symbols for FF, but when I type gdb firefox-bin and then type run it says: /usr/lib/firefox-3.6/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory13:16
binarylookskoltroll: system settings > default applications13:16
binarylookstiresias: right click on the channle and see under "hide events"13:16
koltrollbinarylooks, thanks alot. Can I get any problems by doing this?13:17
kaddido I need to link the libraries explicizely?13:17
binarylookskoltroll: none at all except a slightly strange integration look :-)13:17
tiresiasbinarylooks: omg you're my hero! thanks!!!13:17
Mamarokkaddi: try just typing gdb firefox13:17
koltrollbinarylooks, alright =) Thanks13:17
binarylookstiresias,koltroll: np13:17
kaddiMamarok: it says: "/usr/lib/firefox-3.6/firefox": not in executable format: File format not recognised. I'm using FF 3.613:18
Mamarokhm, then it is most likely another name, let me check13:19
Torchkaddi: that's because firefox is a script13:19
Torchkaddi: run firefox normally, then attach to the process with gdb13:19
Torchkaddi: get the pid of firefox and run gdp -p <pid>13:19
Torchgdb, even13:19
Mamarokkaddi: what does namoroka tell you?13:19
Mamarokthis is the current name of Firefox-3.6 IIRC13:20
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kaddiMamarok: that is not a defined command for me. I'm getting my FF from here: http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/firefox-stable/ubuntu karmic main And when run gdb firefox-bin it loads the debuging symbols, but then breaks on the loaded libraries13:21
Mamarokhm13:22
kaddiTorch that worked. Thanks :)13:22
kaddiProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.13:24
kaddi0x053ccbf9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libGL.so.113:25
kaddithat is not in FF is it?13:25
Torchkaddi: no, that's opengl13:25
kaddiso I do a bugreport against opengl?13:31
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binarylookshmmm,krunner crashes quite a lot in sc4.4 from the backports. I didn't have this with rc2. Am I the only one?13:34
Peace-binarylooks: mm13:36
Peace-i think packages are not really nice13:37
grappadoes anyone knows from where i can get NeoPwn13:40
parHi all - I've just installed a load of packages (suggested updates and bug fixes) and the plasma-desktop is broken (on boot it fails with a SIGSGEV).  Any ideas how to deal with this?13:40
Peace-mmm13:42
Peace-wow13:42
par(sorry - I'm running Kubuntu 9.10 on a Thinkpad T400)13:42
Peace-par: well i have heard a lots of people here with your problem... i guess bad packager in13:43
kaddipar can you try to log into tty and move .kde to .kde-backup. This will move all your settings. I got a crashing plasma-desktop after upgrading to 4.4 RC2 and that fixed it for me.13:43
parPeace: Oh dear - so I guess no magic solutions yet then?13:43
parkaddi:  I'll give it a go..13:44
kaddijust make sure you move it instead of deleting it, so you have a backup of your settings13:45
Peace-kaddi: good idea13:45
parkaddi : No joy - same failure13:46
parFinal error message :13:46
parplasma-desktop(2733): Communication problem with  "plasma-desktop" , it probably crashed.13:46
parError message was:  "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown" : " "The name org.kde.plasma-desktop was not provided by any .service files" "13:46
Peace-mmm i will not upgrade my kde ...13:47
Peace-i think packager has made some mistake .... too much people with prblems13:48
Peace-packagers13:48
Peace-have13:48
parHmm - any idea how downgrade backwards?13:50
Koliapar: are you sure you upgraded everything?13:53
kaddiok, i think the world is trying to keep me from filing a bug today. XD13:55
kaddidoes this mean that ubuntu-bug is broken on my install:13:55
parkolia: Not sure - basically I accepted everything suggested by the software updates tool...13:55
kaddiubuntu-bug mesa13:55
kaddiTraceback (most recent call last):13:55
kaddi  File "/usr/share/apport/apport-kde", line 28, in <module>13:55
kaddi    from PyKDE4.kdecore import (ki18n, KAboutData, KCmdLineArgs,13:55
FloodBotK1kaddi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.13:55
kaddiRuntimeError: the sip module implements API v7.0 but the PyKDE4.kdecore module requires API v6.013:55
Koliapar: what does sudo apt-get upgrade says (in a console) ?13:56
GalvatronHi13:56
GalvatronI'm working on automatic mounting of NTFS partition13:56
kaddihi Galvatron13:57
kaddi:)13:57
kaddiwhat is the problem?13:57
parKolia : Tells me that 'Klipper' will be upgraded, and also lists a whole load of packages that have been kept back.13:57
Koliapar: here you are :)13:57
Koliapar: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade13:57
parkolia: OK giving it a go now13:58
GalvatronNTFS Configuration Tools shows error: "An error occured while trying to configure /media/Dysk lokalny"13:58
GalvatronAnd I cant check "Write support for internal devices"13:59
kaddiGalvatron: have you tried mounting it through command line or the device notifier widget?14:01
allee-kpar: FYI: [14:56] <a|wen> allee-k: gah, it was moved in lucid with 4.3.3 (but in karmic 4.3.5 it is still not moved), that is why the replaces doesn't work14:01
GalvatronI can mount it manually14:01
GalvatronBut I need it to auto-mount14:01
kaddiGalvatron: have you tried editing your fstab for it?14:01
GalvatronNo14:02
GalvatronI don't remember how to create an entry14:02
allee-kpar:  [15:01] <a|wen> allee-k: committed to bzr, so should be fixed next time someone uploads kdebase-workspace14:02
kaddiGalvatron: i added a line such as: "/dev/sda2       /media/windows ntfs     utf8    0       0" to my fstab and it's been working fine. You just need to know the dev and the name to which you want it mounted14:02
binarylookskaddi: could'nt he use the removabe devices kcm in system settings? My internal drives are listed there?14:03
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BluesKajkaddi, like this: /dev/sda1 /media/Windows ntfs defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0 014:04
kaddibinarylooks: very probably yes. I wasn't aware of it14:04
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kaddiBluesKaj: why? Not challenging what your saying, just curious?14:04
binarylookskaddi: I also am so used to fstab that I just now thought about it. maybe its for a different use cse14:04
binarylookss/cse/case14:05
BluesKajkaddi, merely an example that works :)14:05
GalvatronBRB (reboot)14:05
allee-kkaddi: is there somewhere a FAQ that shows how to fix the mysql/akonadi upgrade trouble with KDE 4.4?14:05
kaddinot that I know of, I didn't have any trouble luckily. Only problem was my plasma-desktop-appletsrc that I had to trash to get plasma-desktop to run14:07
parkolia :  Great! Looks like that's sorted it.  Thanks for the help.14:07
parallee-k: Thanks for the info.14:07
Koliapar: remember it for next time ;)14:07
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mermshausis it just me or is there no "switch workspace" widget in kde 4.4?14:12
parkolia : Will do - am writing it into my little spell book now14:13
BiosftwI cant connect to facebook via jabber protocoll with kopete :/ any suggestions14:17
GalvatronThankd Auto-mount works14:17
GalvatronBut I have another annoying issue14:17
GalvatronOpera takes 2-3 min. o start and in this time the HDD is working hardly14:18
BluesKajBiosftw, what's wrong with using a browser?14:21
Biosftwwell i only want to use the im tool of facebook and kopete is using less perfomance than kopete+browser14:22
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Koliamermshaus: "switch workspace" ?14:28
mermshausKolia: thank you! the widget is named "Pager" but a search for "switch" helps.14:30
mermshausphew. That drove me crazy. :)14:30
Koliamermshaus: huh? i did nothing, but ok, you're welcome :p14:30
mermshausKolia: well, you did solve my problem. :)14:31
BusMasteris there a cpu frequency selector widget for the panel in the default list?14:34
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mermshausKolia: oh, okay. I just got it. heh :) -- I was looking for the "Pager" widget (the on with the little workspace icons) but haven't been able to find it. I thought your answer meant it's called "switch workspace" so I tried to search for that string and pager turned up.14:40
Koliamermshaus: it was just a question, but glad it accidentally helped you ;)14:41
mermshausKolia: Before that, I did just search for "desktop" or "workspace" or something which didn't help. kind of funny. :)14:41
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BusMasterwhen I click on an mp3 file in Dolphin, I get an error message saying Unable to create ghb. Internal error. Can someone tell me how i can fix this? I'm using kde 4.414:57
oxymoronDoes somebody know how to enable gfxmenu in grub2?14:58
BluesKajoxymoron, http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-add-a-splash-image-to-grub-2-on-ubuntu-9.04  ..it works on 9.10 too14:59
BluesKajoxymoron, is that what you meant ?15:00
oxymoronBluesKaj: I want to apply this theme: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+4+gfxboot+theme?content=7544315:00
oxymoronBluesKaj: I have been googling three hours how to do it, but I dont find any resolution for grub2 package.15:01
BluesKajdunno I just use a background , i haven't tried to change the actual menu15:01
BluesKajoxymoron, looks like a grub2 replacement15:02
oxymoronBluesKaj: It is possible with grub1 I think :P Then I also tried to install grub 1.97.1.2 and I think I fucked up some files, is it possible to rollback to "stable" release?15:03
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geniiBusMaster: Let me make a wild guess... you have Handbrake installed and it's supposed to be the app to open your mp3s in?15:06
BusMastergenii, i have handbrake installed yes. But I need to check if its thedefault app. Since I didn't change anything, i thought amarok would be the kde default15:08
BluesKajgrub2 wouldn't have altered any files other than boot and grub menu15:08
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oxymoronBluesKaj: Alright :) I think I was able to restore to 1.97~ beta4 now :)15:09
BusMastergenii, respect!! Handbrake _is_ the default app. should I simply change it to somethign else and all will be fine?15:10
oxymoronBluesKaj: I think you are enable to edit /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme but I dont know how to do it ... :P15:10
oxymoronBluesKaj: Only thing I know is to enable splashimage, but I dont want that, I want a gfxmenu :P15:10
BusMastergenii, why does handbrake break things?15:11
oxymoronBluesKaj: I have experimental branch from grub2 version 1.97.1.2 but dont know if it works :P15:12
geniiBusMaster: Yes, Handbrake is broken on 9.10 - some info here on that: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=119015:13
* oxymoron just want to thank developers for fixing the KDM bug :) Now it is flawless, but a new problem appeared instead ... Now does Lancelot not work xD15:17
jaguar123321do anyone know how do I reconfig KDE 4.4 kicker?15:17
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BusMasteri used the system settings to make Amarok the default application for .mp3 files. Then I click apply and I momentarily get a dialog saying Updating system settings..but nothing changes and Amarok still isn't the default app. what do I do now?15:18
jaguar123321seems to be a bug in kde 4.4. kicker does not autoadjust icons if height is readjusted. Damn. Left with giant icons.15:18
WaY_hello15:19
WaY_what happends to the clock on kubuntu lucid in the kde bar?15:20
WaY_is a bug or something?15:20
jaguar123321Way_: Many UI bugs in otherwise cool 4.415:21
Peace-+115:21
Peace-|+115:21
Peace-!+115:21
Peace-!lucid | WaY_15:21
ubottuWaY_: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support only in #ubuntu+115:21
WaY_ok thanks Peace-15:21
WaY_xD15:21
jaguar123321but I am facing unadjustible panel bug in Karmic15:22
jaguar123321the new kde 4.4 won't autoadjust the panel15:22
BusMastergah! its only for mp3 files that the default apps won'15:22
BusMastert get change15:22
geniiBusMaster: Do you have package kubuntu-restricted-extras installed?15:23
BusMastergenii, erm, no. is that the reason?15:24
geniiBusMaster: That is the package which gives the mp3 codecs15:25
zegeniejaguar123321: what do you mean it won't auto adjust?15:25
sathisthe panel dooesnt hide while playing videos in vlc..15:26
jaguar123321zegenie: I open panel settings, change the height(made it slightly big) but did not like it so brought down the height15:27
jaguar123321zegenie: but the icons, taskbar etc did not readjust to the panel as in previous releases15:27
BusMastergenii, I installed kubuntu-restricted-extras but the KDE system settings still doesn't change the default application :(15:27
koltrollGuys, I've got kubuntu 9.10, kde 4.3 and a radeon 4770 with the drivers recommended by kubuntu. I have two screens and all I get is that they clone eachother. I can't change any settings under "multiple monitors"15:27
jaguar123321zegenie: so now I have half visible panel. ideally, icons, things displayed must sync with panel size. it does not anymore in kde 4.415:28
BusMastergenii, I am migrating from ubuntu and i had ubuntu-restricted-extras. I can play mp3 files if I right click and select open with amarok. but when I try to make it the default app for mp3's in system-settings, nothing happens. I still have my old settings15:28
jrmyfraaaaaaaaaancais15:28
zegeniejaguar123321: it seems to auto-adjust but only up to a certain size15:29
geniiBusMaster: Did you close then re-open Dolphin after you changed default app?15:29
genii!fr | jrmy15:29
ubottujrmy: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois15:29
zegenieif you make it smaller and smaller, you'll see the icon auto-adjust downwards, and then make it bigger, it'll autoadjust up until a certain size15:29
BusMastergenii, no, but after hitting "Apply", I see a momentary window saying Updating system settings and then in the system settings I see the same order of applications, where amarok is somewhere near the bottom again15:30
aapzakkoltroll: you might need to use the command line interface to xrandr, I've had some trouble with that GUI too15:30
frewo64jrmy: je voudrais couchez avec votre femme ce soir,,,,,,;)15:30
koltrollaapzak, any good reading on the subject for me?15:30
frewo64jrmy: thats all i remember from school....15:30
aapzaknot by head, it's called xrandr15:30
BusMastergenii, and restarting dolphin isn't helping15:31
aapzakkoltroll: ever used cli?15:31
oxymoronHas somebody figured out how you group windows, I have been looking everywhere and the video on kde.org does not explain how to do it.15:31
koltrollaapzak, no I don't think so15:31
oxymoronAnd middle button does not work at all, nothing happens.15:31
koltrollaapzak, oh sorry15:31
aapzakkoltroll: a terminal. like konsole15:31
koltrollaapzak, yea I have :)15:31
aapzakaight, run xrandr15:32
koltrollas normal user?15:32
aapzaksee what screens you have15:32
aapzakyeah, just as yourself15:32
koltrollDFP1 and DFP3 is connected15:32
koltrollaapzak, so I see both screens there15:33
aapzakkoltroll: in my case I think it works like this: xrandr --output DFP1 --right-of DFP315:33
koltrollI'll gladly try :p15:33
olskolirchow do I enable 3rd party sources in karamic?15:33
koltrollaapzak, xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1920 (desired size 3840x1080)15:34
arie----------totally confused, how do I change IRC channels?15:35
aapzakkoltroll: ok, this goes further than I ever went15:35
aapzakarie: depends on your client :)15:35
arieYou mean the Quassel IRC one?15:35
kaddi_arie you can type /join #channelname to join another channel15:35
aapzakarie: in mine, I use alt-1, 2, 3 etc15:35
arielol15:35
aapzakkoltroll: you probably have to investigate how ATI does xinerama15:36
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koltrollaapzak, could it help to download official ati drivers?15:36
aapzakkoltroll: on my intel that one command was enough15:36
aapzakkoltroll: dunno15:37
aapzakkoltroll: haven't used ATI quite a while :)15:37
geniiBusMaster: Apologies on lag, work is very busy right now. You may want to add instead in Dolphin settings under Services a right-click context to open the file in Amarok15:37
oxymoronHas somebody figured out how you group windows, I have been looking everywhere and the video on kde.org does not explain how to do it?15:38
koltrolloxymoron, do you got kde 4.4?15:38
oxymoronkoltroll: Yes :)15:39
BusMastergenii, thanks I'll try that15:39
MWisBestoxymoron: What to you mean by group, like on the taskbar?15:39
oxymoronMWisBest: No, tab grouping in the window/title bar?15:40
MWisBestoxymoron: Oh. Let me dig around a minute or two.15:40
oxymoronMWisBest: Thank you :) And what I have heard you shall click with the middle button, I guess they mean scroll wheel, but does not work for me so :P Right click and move to group does not work either :P15:41
MWisBestmarcos: from MepisLovers?15:41
oxymoronMWisBest: MepisLovers?15:43
MWisBestoxymoron: it's a forum for people that use Mepis. Mepis is a Debian based KDE distro.15:44
oxymoronMWisBest: Not anything I have heard of but alright :) I prefer Kubuntu15:45
MWisBestoxymoron: go into System Settings >> Window Behavior. Then on the left choosee Window Behavior. Check the setting under "Titlebar & Frame"15:45
MWisBestoxymoron: It's really easy to use. It was my first Linux distro.15:46
MWisBestoxymoron: set the right button to what the middle button is set to. I think that should work.15:47
oxymoronMWisBest: I am inside systemsettings->window behavior -> windowbehavior but does not found the setting titlebar and frame15:47
MWisBestoxymoron: oooh. On the top, on all the tabs, hit "Titlebar Actions"15:48
MWisBestoxymoron: I missed that part :( .15:48
oxymoronMWisBest: Ah there we have it :) But I want show window menu? :P15:48
MWisBestoxymoron: Oh. I didn't understand what you meant I guess :P Still.15:49
MWisBestoxymoron: Also on the top of that tab there is a setting for "Titlebar wheel event:" I don't know if that might be something you're looking for, but I thought I'd point it out to ya.15:50
oxymoronMWisBest: ANd it does not work at all anyway even if I choose right button instead for window group moving15:50
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MWisBestWait a second... did you change the selection of what the middle button does? I think you have to do that to get whatever the middle button is set to.15:51
oxymoronMWisBest: Yes I changed that.15:51
MWisBestoxymoron: Nevermind. I'm retarded.15:51
MWisBestoxymoron: Did you hit apply?15:52
oxymoronMWisBest: Yes I did apply ...15:52
olskolirchow do I see my version of Kubuntu?15:52
olskolircI don't know what I have :-(15:52
MWisBestoxymoron: Sorry again. I'm retarded. As you know.15:52
donwINOAnyone using Open Office on Kubuntu 9.10 AMD?  Does it work ok?15:52
oxymoronMWisBest: I think they have been disable that feature ... xD I cant get same option as they do in the video tutorial/showoff :P15:53
MWisBestdonwlNO: Sorry, couldn't tell ya. I'm on 10.04, which is total pwnage.15:53
oxymoronMWisBest: You should be able to get window properties by rightlicking in the titlebar and then selsct move window to goup, but it is no.15:54
MWisBestoxymoron: Do you have 2 windows open?15:54
oxymoronMWisBest: Yes?15:55
MWisBestoxymoron: It works for me.15:55
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oxymoronMWisBest: Weird :S Gah, what is the problem then for me? :S15:55
MWisBestoxymoron: On the top it shows the tabs. Jeez, I didn't even know this feature. It's ******* awesome!15:55
oxymoronMWisBest: Yes it is awesome and I want to use it :D15:56
dmattolskolirc: lsb_release -a15:56
MWisBestoxymoron: Maybe it has something to do with if Compositing is enabled.15:56
olskolircthanks dmatt15:56
oxymoronMWisBest: How do I check that, or I mean where?15:57
MWisBestoxymoron: I have to figure that out myself!15:57
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MWisBestoxymoron: Under Desktop Effects, in System Setting. Should be a huge Green Check mark on the left.15:58
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oxymoronMWisBest: Hahahaha LOL I didnt even had that package installed ....15:59
MWisBestoxymoron: What package?15:59
oxymoronMWisBest: Compiz engine ...15:59
MWisBestoxymoron: I don't think it's a package...16:00
koltrollGuys, no one in here with a dual screen setup that uses ati? I've got a radeon 4770 and just don't know how to get it to work16:00
oxymoronMWisBest: COmposite is active it says16:00
MWisBestoxymoron: Well I'm stumped.16:01
koltrollI just got a ghost pointer on my right screen16:01
koltrollblack background16:01
koltrollcan't do anything in there16:01
MWisBestoxymoron: I wonder if it's any different since I'm in Lucid and started out with KDE4.4, not having to upgrade from KDE4.3.16:01
oxymoronMWisBest: Gah this really sucks ... I am using Karmic btw ...16:02
MWisBestyofel and yofel_... why 2 yofels? (users)16:02
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oxymoronMWisBest: ANyway I have to go now, thanks for your help anyway :)16:03
MWisBestoxymoron: You helped me more than I helped you!16:04
MWisBestoxymoron: Now I figured out how to get the Cube enabled!16:04
BluesKajctrl+F11 ?16:05
oxymoronMWisBest: Hehe your welcome ;)16:05
MWisBestBluesKaj: I had to enable the effect in Desktop Effects.16:05
oxymoronIs it possible to enable cube when alt+shift+tab?16:05
BluesKajyeah, it's not quite as simpla as compiz , but i prefer it ...compiz is a bit of a hog16:06
MWisBestoxymoron: Yep. Just change the key combination. Under Desktop Effects then Tab All Effects.16:07
MWisBestoxymoron: Click the wrench across from "Desktop Cube"16:07
MWisBestoxymoron: Now it won't work. WTF?16:08
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MWisBestoxymoron: Cube is cool, but it's really bogging down my performance on this tiny ATi Radeon X300SE.16:09
MWisBestoxymoron: Sweet! Now I have a triangular prism!16:10
MWisBestoxymoron: I set my desktops to 3 XD.16:11
oxymoronMWisBest: Does not work for me with alt+tabular16:11
Henson_Dhas anyone got Nepomuk and Strigi working with the new KDE 4.4.0 packages, or had any issues with it?  It seems as though Strigi and Nepomuk work, but when searching in Dolphin I get zero results for any search I do.  But if I hit Alt+F2 and type "nepomuksearch:/blahblah" it will work properly and find results.16:11
MWisBestoxymoron: Yeah I just realized that.16:11
oxymoronCube does work switching desktops though ...16:12
oxymoronGot to go, cya later16:12
BusMasterhow can I prevent apps from minimizing to the taskbar? I prefer to use AWN so I don't want minimized windows occupying taskbar real estate16:13
FeasibilityStudyHenson_D: works fine here.16:14
MWisBestBusMaster: Can't you just change the widgets so that you have a separate panel for "Task Manager"?16:14
geniiBusMaster: You could always just remove the Task Manager Applet from the bar16:14
MWisBestBusMaster: That too.16:15
olskolirchow do I see my version of Kubuntu please?16:15
koltrollI want me dual monitors setup to rock!16:15
MWisBestBusMaster: Also, there is a widget in KDE4.4 (dunno about 4.3) called Window List.16:15
koltrollI'm a bit scared of installing the official ati-drivers.. which I guess doesn't make sense.16:15
Vroomfondleolskolirc: lsb_release -a16:16
Henson_DFeasibilityStudy: yeah, I don't know what it's issue is.  When running "nepomukserver" manually both methods seem to be doing the same sort of queries.  Maybe it's a problem with Dolphin.16:16
BluesKajolskolirc, lsb_release -a16:16
MWisBestBusMaster: You could put that on your desktop and under settings for it (the wrench by it) change it so a keyboard shortcut is assigned to it. Then you get a list of windows whenever you want.16:16
geniiolskolirc:For KDE version info ,  Kmenu...Help...From the KDE Help Center menu choose again Help and then About KDE16:17
olskolircthat only shows me ubuntu I want to know if I'm on 4.4 or not16:17
donwINOAnyone using Open Office on Kubuntu 9.10 AMD?  Does it work ok?16:17
olskolircgreat thanks genii16:17
geniiolskolirc: np16:17
olskolircwow I have 4.2 how do I get 4.416:18
olskolircon the command line16:18
BusMasterMWisBest, genii ok, thanks. I am currently figuring out how to remove the Task Manager applet..I have many apps running so I can't seem to right click somewhere that is _not_ a minimized app16:18
newbie123abchi all16:18
rmrfslashanyone else noticing that when you click on the network manager system tray icon (kde 4.4) the drop down appears on the other side of the desktop16:18
BluesKajolskolirc, KDE SC 4.4 in the Kubuntu Backports PPA: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.416:18
newbie123abcAfter kde 4.4 update: ´ai ´c ~a16:18
newbie123abcWhat happen?16:19
newbie123abcto my layout?16:19
MWisBestBusMaster: right-click on the pannel, Panel Options >> Add Widgets. Find Task Manager and remove it.16:19
FeasibilityStudyHenson_D: are you saying you cant get it to work at all?16:19
Henson_Dkoltroll: I'm using a dual monitor setup with the official ati drivers.  I tried the 64-bit versions and they didn't work properly with merged framebuffers (necessary for dual-screen OpenGL effects).  So I re-installed the 32-bit version of Kubuntu and used the 32-bit drivers, and it worked perfectly.16:20
BusMasterMWisBest, I found the task manager. It has a little tick mark on the icon (which shows that it is running) but how do I remove it? Right click, and middle click does nothing. I double clicked and got yet another taskbar..now the panel is a mess16:20
Henson_DFeasibilityStudy: manually searching using "nepomuksearch:/blahblah" works fine, but Dolphin's search bar never returns any matches, either for Strigi information or for Nepomuk tags.16:21
BusMasterMWisBest, s/taskbar/task manager16:21
FeasibilityStudyHenson_D: I had to add an empty folder as a workaround to get it to work.  It didn't work ootb.16:21
MWisBestBusMaster: I'm working on it hold on a second ok?16:21
FeasibilityStudyI had to add the empty folder "redland"16:21
BusMasterMWisBest, sure. thanks in advance16:21
rmrfslashHey, they fixed my login krash bug16:22
rmrfslashcool16:22
koltrollHenson_D, oh that sounds like a hustle to make a complete reinstall :/16:22
rmrfslashI keep getting a Nepomuk disabled error16:22
koltrollHenson_D, when you say "official" do you mean the ones from ati/amd's website?16:22
rmrfslashNepomuk indexing has been disabled.16:22
BusMasterMWisBest, I am using kde 4.4, if that is any help16:23
MWisBestBusMaster: Just right click on where the Task Manager is on your panel and select remove this task manager.16:23
MWisBestBusMaster: I am too, but I'm on Lucid.16:23
rmrfslashand I have a notification "Nepomik Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store it's data. Installing the Virtuoso Soprano plugin is mandatory for usin Nepomuk16:23
FeasibilityStudyHenson_D: Now that i try it in Dolphin, it doesnt work for me either.  Usually I use Krunner.16:23
rmrfslashhow do I install this16:23
donwINOAnyone know if Open Office 3.2 will work ok on Kubuntu 9.10 64bit?  Will it mess up KDE?16:23
newbie123abcplz16:24
newbie123abchelp mr16:24
rmrfslashOpen Office works16:24
rmrfslashim on kubuntu 9.10 64-bit w/ kde 4.416:24
pucko-rmrfslash, try installing virtuoso-nepumuk package.16:24
Henson_Dkoltroll: yeah, the drivers from ati's web site.  Using the ati open source or xorg radeon driver's won't give you dual screen OpenGL awesomeness.  The official ati drivers were the only ones I could find that would do dual screen and OpenGL at the same time.16:24
donwINOrmrfslash, the new version 3.2 not 3.1 which is the default package in the repos now.16:24
Henson_Dkoltroll: the 64 bit drivers would segfault and totally freeze the computer.  When I switched to 32-bit kubuntu and drivers, it worked fine without any hassles.16:25
rmrfslashI'm running apt-get install virtuoso-nepomuk now16:25
MWisBestkoltroll: Are you using sgfxi to install these drivers? Might be a good idea.16:25
rmrfslashwe'll see next time I reboot16:25
rmrfslashcan someone click on the system tray network manager icon and tell me if the dropdown is not appearing under the icon16:26
Henson_DFeasibilityStudy: how do you invoke a search from krunner?  Using the "nepomuksearch:/" method works for me, but is there a shorter way of getting it to search?  Also can you do complex searched with tags, dates, sizes, etc like you can from Dolphin? (if dolphin worked).16:27
MWisBestkoltroll: This is a guide on how to use sgfxi: http://mepis.org/docs/en/index.php/Smxi16:27
FeasibilityStudyHenson_D: Alt+F216:27
BusMasterMWisBest, perfekt! It all works now. thanks a lot :)16:27
MWisBestkoltroll: it'll install the drivers for you really easy.16:27
geniiolskolirc: From command-line: echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu  karmic main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 2836CB0A8AC93F7A && gpg --export --armor 2836CB0A8AC93F7A | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade)16:28
MWisBestBusMaster: No problem! Glad I could help.16:28
koltrollMWisBest, hm I did try something other named EnvyNG. But I think it only used the ones from ubuntu16:28
koltrollMWisBest, this one will get the "offical" drivers and set them up and so on?16:29
MWisBestkoltroll: It's supposed to.16:29
geniiolskolirc: If you are on Lucid substitute name accordingly, etc16:29
koltrollMWisBest, I'll give it a shot. Thanks alot :)16:29
[GuS]Hi guys, before todays updates of the ppa (related to kde4.4) i was available to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/520408 like suggested there. Now the bug appear again and that fix does not work anymore for me.16:29
MWisBestkoltroll: No problem! I've tried it before but it didn't work because I needed the legacy drivers and they aren't compatable with such and such kernel...16:30
MWisBestkoltroll: Make sure you follow the directions for SGFXI, not SMXI. SGFXI is towards the bottom.16:31
koltrollyea right.Allready read it through once :)16:31
olskolircquick! how do I see my version of X?  my friend has no gui and he has nvidia on karamik16:31
olskolircsudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-?16:32
geniiolskolirc: No16:32
olskolircok genii16:32
geniiolskolirc: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg16:33
olskolircwhat does that do genii16:33
olskolircok i see genii16:34
MWisBestI'm gonna get going. I want to try installing Gnome (oh boy).16:34
olskolirchow does he fix his black screen on karamik he said he can get to a terminal16:34
geniioptionally with:  | grep  Installed16:35
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olskolircwhat genii ?16:35
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olskolircmy friends desktop segfaults on him when he logs in16:36
olskolircplasma crashes16:36
olskolircevery time16:36
BluesKajolskolirc, your friend needs to install a nvidia driver that works with his nvidia card , which card is it ?16:37
olskolircok BlueKaj let me ask16:38
BluesKajmore than likely olskolirc , the driver will need to be nvidia-current16:38
olskolirchow can he get that from the command line BluesKaj16:39
BluesKajor nouveau16:39
BluesKajolskolirc, lspci | grep VGA16:39
AlexZionhi guys , I have a problem trying to capture the audio using kdenlive , someone can help me ?16:41
jussi01AlexZion: just ask the question...16:42
olskolircok hold on16:42
AlexZionjussi01: , I just tried to record my screen and audio , using kdenlive , but it records perfectly the video , but nothing to do with the audio ..., so I don't know if I have to chenge some settings16:43
olskolirche has nvidia geforce mx 42016:43
olskolircBluesKaj,16:43
AlexZionjussi01:  I already tried to change "oss" with "alsa" on the settings panel , but without results16:44
BluesKajolskolirc, hang on ...gonn acheck16:46
olskolircok16:46
BluesKajolskolirc, he needs to install the nvidia-glx-96 driver , if that's one already installed then he needs to update his kernel16:49
olskolircok BluesKaj16:51
jrdnyquistIn KDE 4.4 (Ubuntu Karmic backports), I see the "Plasma Widgets Explorer" feature has been completed for "Install widgets from file, Google Gadgets and GHNS", but there's no option to install a GG widget from a local file. Is there a certain package needed for that to show up in the widget explorer?16:51
olskolircis lucid stable?16:57
geniijrdnyquist: On my Add Widgets..Get New Widgets menu I see an option to install a widget from a file17:03
BluesKajolskolirc, not yet, if you install kubuntu Lucid , you 'll need to monitor it closely be prepared to work on it after upgrades17:03
buckfastShould I upgrade to KDE4.4 on 9.10 Karmic?17:04
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BluesKajbuckfast, the same goes for kde 4.4 as I just posted about lucid17:05
jrdnyquistgenii, I do as well, and when I choose that option I get an "install new widget from file" menu that only has "Plasmoid: Native plasma widget" as an option, no google gadget option17:05
buckfastBluesKaj: I need to upgrade my kernel?17:06
BluesKajbuckfast, kde will determine that , depends on what you have installed17:07
buckfastSo in other words, its not a good idea to upgrade KDE right now17:08
buckfastI was hoping maybe the desktop effects problems were fixed in the new KDE17:08
rmrfslashwhat desktop effects? the 9 seconds it takes to maximize a window?17:09
BluesKajbuckfast, it may well be a good idea , it's hard to predict17:09
rmrfslashgives you plenty of time to make a cup of coffee17:10
BluesKajrmrfslash, looks like you do need an upgrade17:10
rmrfslashI think it's not too bad. I upgraded from 4.3.5 to 4.4 and admittedly last night I was experiencing a lotta bugz, but now the only bug it the network manager drop down thing17:11
rmrfslashthe fixed the bug whereas I needed to switch to a alternate tty and back to actually have the desktop display properly17:11
rmrfslashthat was annoying17:12
olskolircis lucid stable?17:12
rmrfslashand why does the login window flip to a different background when you hit enter?17:12
rmrfslashthis has been happening forever17:12
rmrfslashbut I'm ok w/ that bug. doesn't elicit any powerful emptions17:13
[GuS]Does someone has a fix for this guys? I can´t work right with this bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/52040817:14
rmrfslashI have to say though, I'm really impressed w/ 4.417:14
rmrfslashlong way from 4.117:14
rmrfslash:::shivers:::17:14
buckfastBluesKaj: I enabled backports from KPackageKit and it found updates, am I supposed to install all of them?17:15
Flutiju`Yeah [GuS], same thing here :/17:15
jmichaelxrmrfslash: ditto on your sentiments viz a viz 4.4 *and* 4.1.... i try to not even think about 4.017:16
CombatjuanWhat can I use to determine why my hard drive is continuously grinding?  I'd like something like the sys internals program "procmon" on windows.17:16
[GuS]Flutiju`: :(17:16
orion_!help17:16
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:16
rmrfslashIf all I'm complaining about is a login window background change.... I'm happy17:16
p1erreHi folks. I just upgraded to KDE 4.4.0 and I had the following issue(s): the icons of the buttons of Krunner and widgets are not shown.17:17
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CombatjuanNevermind.  I want lsof it sounds like.17:17
* buckfast is upgrading to KDE 4.417:19
[GuS]damn bug...17:19
Flutiju`[GuS] : I'll try the command explained in your bug report (sudo im-switch -s default-xim) and it now works for me17:19
Flutiju`:/17:20
Administrator_can anyone think of a better word to say this: de-govern?17:20
geniijrdnyquist: Hm. I couldn't get GG to install from any widget method. I did instead: sudo apt-get install google-gadgets-qt    then alt-f2 and ran ggl-qt      whereby I got it on my systray where it has now right-click options to add desktop gadgets from17:20
sergeПривет17:21
Pici!ru | serge17:21
ubottuserge: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:21
buckfastmy firefox freezed when i tryed to browse a m$ webpage :S17:22
rc1I have a problem in KDE 4.4 final on 9.10?17:24
rmrfslashCombatjuan: you know there are lotsa plasmoids for stuff like this17:24
rmrfslashrather, there is a plasmoid17:24
Guest13098help17:24
Guest13098problem in KDE 4.4 final on 9.1017:25
geniiGuest13098: A better description of your problem might be helpful :)17:25
rmrfslashI have a few on my desktop all the time, namely the ones that check temp sensors, memory/swap usage, and I think disk usage17:25
rmrfslashoh yeah, and CPU usage17:25
rc1To those who have KDE 4.4 final: Do you have problem with User Management module?17:26
BluesKajbuckfast, if you want to keep karmic updated, yes17:27
buckfastBluesKaj: I think I messed up, 'Unsupported updates' isn't really the backports repository?17:28
BluesKajbuckfast, sorry i don't use KPackageKit , I just add repos to my sources.list for apps that I want to install whether they are in the backports or not17:30
BluesKajanyway , time for my daily walk ..bb in an hr or so.17:31
melomanehow can i use --download-only in apt? it must be used with install?17:42
geniimelomane: thats how I usually do it, although it may work with other directives like source17:44
melomanegenii: so id i use install with -d, it wont install it?17:44
geniimelomane: Correct17:44
melomanegenii:  tanx17:44
geniimelomane: np17:44
melomanewhere is the away option in quassel?17:48
geniimelomane: Settings...Configure Quassel...Misc...Identities... "Away" tab in right pane17:51
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melomanegenii:  thanks again, but how can i set to away?17:52
geniimelomane: Just type in: /away17:52
melomanegenii: oh thanks ;)17:52
slow-motionhi17:52
geniimelomane: and: /back              when you return17:53
melomanegenii:  i c, thanks17:53
[GuS]Hi again, is there a way to fix this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/520408. The suggested fix does not work for me.17:56
ToxinPowe1.install qtconfig-qt4.17:57
ToxinPowe2. qtconfig17:58
ToxinPowe3. change input methos to XIM17:58
ToxinPowe4. save17:58
ToxinPowe5. remove plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus and plasma-widget-kimpanel17:58
ToxinPowe6. restart KDE17:58
ToxinPoweqt4-qtconfig*17:59
[GuS]ToxinPowe: ok, i will restart kde now18:06
[GuS]ToxinPowe:  that didnt fixed :(18:08
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ToxinPoweno? works for me and others18:08
[GuS]:(18:08
ToxinPowesry then :/18:08
[GuS]before today updates sudo im-switch -s default-xim was working18:08
[GuS]now does not :S18:08
rmrfslashI fixed the misplaced networkmanager system tray listbox by moving the spacer arbitrarily then putting it back18:09
rmrfslashI think my system is actually, for once completely up to date and not showing signs of any bugs. holy cow.18:10
rmrfslashI have skype working, chrome, my IDE, etc. all actually working18:10
rmrfslashplayin music18:11
rmrfslashwatching videos18:11
rmrfslashdare I say i feel like I'm on os x again.18:11
rmrfslash:D18:11
fabio123chrome?18:11
rmrfslashbrowser18:11
rmrfslashscrew FF18:11
rmrfslashI'm done w/ FF18:11
rmrfslashchrome is the best browser in the world right now hands down18:12
fabio123compiz or kwin?18:12
rmrfslashjavascript is blazingly fast18:12
rmrfslashkwin + desktop effects18:12
rmrfslashthough those could use some work18:12
rmrfslashtakes too long to maximize windows w/ effects on18:13
rmrfslashbut I keep em on anyways18:13
person_fabio123: Compiz for showing off and being awe-struck; kwin for doing stuff :P18:13
fabio123this is a little OT i konw but compiz is a lot better, i'm using it on kde 4.418:13
person_fabio123: Might depend on your mood18:13
fabio123kwin is slower18:13
person_orly? I find that odd.18:13
rmrfslashI like sticking w/ the standard stuff18:13
person_Maybe with desktop effects.18:13
rmrfslashcompiz I thought was a gnome thing18:13
fabio123it0s not a gnome thing.18:14
person_I reckon I've found compiz buggy in the past.18:14
person_Yeah it's not18:14
rmrfslashi know you can install it on kde but I'm not sure how it works18:14
petsoundsrmrfslash, google chrome beta?18:14
rmrfslashyep18:14
fabio123compiz kicks kwin ass and will do for a long time18:14
person_Gnome has no browser per se as far as I'm aware, though it's usually distributed with metacity18:14
rmrfslashawesome browser18:14
DaughainWhats a good app for mounting .iso images in kubuntu?18:14
fabio123Daughain: mount18:14
fabio123with the -o loop18:14
person_Heh I was about to say that18:14
rmrfslashwell, ff is in gtk18:14
rmrfslashso you can call that "gnome"18:15
fabio123rmrfslash: nope sorry18:15
petsoundsrmrfslash, yeah but sadly i never have openjdk working in google chrome18:15
Daughainfabio123: Thanks18:15
rmrfslashno java no work in chrome18:15
fabio123chrome has got a great potential, but sucks compared to firefox18:15
rmrfslashbut whatever18:15
person_rmrfslash: Unfortunately, I haven;'t got Chrome yet because I'm scared of agreements :P18:15
rmrfslashI rarely encounter applets that I give a shit about18:15
rmrfslashperson_: just get it18:15
rmrfslashyou won't be sorry18:16
rmrfslashfast as HELL18:16
person_rmrfslash: Probably not worth it. You don't know what I'm like :P18:16
rmrfslashwell, suit yourself (that's the linux mantra)18:16
person_It's not just a matter of Free Software zealotry; it's about the feeling of uncleanliness and insecurity that I might get :P18:16
fabio123what about konqueror browser18:16
person_Yeah I like Konqueror18:16
rmrfslashI go w/ chrome and it's fast and awesome and I hop of FF when I do GWT development and I wanna die18:16
fabio123now it's useless im my opinion18:17
rmrfslashKonqueror?!?!!?18:17
petsoundsi like arora more18:17
rmrfslashgood LORD18:17
rmrfslashyou're a glutton for punishment18:17
Daughainfabio123: That didnt seem to work.....18:17
person_Well, it's not so good with flash18:17
fabio123Daughain: mount file.iso /media/folder -o loop18:17
fabio123make sure /media/folder exists18:17
fabio123also sudo that18:18
rmrfslashanyone who doesn't use chrome has a reason not to.... like, you work for Mozilla or something. if you don't have a compelling reason, it's the objvious choice18:18
rmrfslashthat's my HO18:18
bobbob1016rmrfslash, Seriously, if there was any way to qualify "best browser" then whichever was "best" would be used.  I personally don't like chrome because I can't use extensions in private mode, I see their reason, but my computer does what I want, not what they want.  Should say "Using extensions in private mode doesn't ensure privacy, are you sure?" not just deny the option.18:18
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rmrfslashLP18:18
rmrfslash:P18:18
fabio123rmrfslash: i need firefox18:18
[GuS]damn... I´ ve cleaned KDE configs, did the mentioned fix and still xim input does not work18:18
rmrfslashI hear ya18:18
Daughainfabio123: Do I have to use /media/folder, or can I use another path?18:19
fabio123Daughain: what you want18:19
Daughainfab I was just asking if I have to mount the .iso in /media/folder, or if I could use another location to mount it, since I don't seem to have that location.18:20
KDeskhi, in kde 4.4, there is a the printer applet, with a nice new tray icon. But I don't need it, should only be started when I am sogin to print, like it was before. How can I make that it doesn't start every time?18:20
fabio123Daughain: sorry, i didn't meant that, the location is unimportant18:21
olskolircanyone using Lucid?  Is it any good?  Stable?18:21
fabio123olskolirc: it can't be any good so soon in my opion18:22
Daughainfabio123: Cool, thanks. =) I hate being a newb. =)18:22
* Daughain grins18:22
ToxinPoweolskolirc: 25/02 Alpha 3 ;)18:23
bobbob1016Daughain, Usually it wouldn't be "stable" until it is released.18:23
olskolircis karamik stable?18:23
fabio123KDesk:18:24
bobbob1016olskolirc, What is karamik?18:24
bandicoot_bobbob1016: koarmic :)18:25
olskolirckoala?18:25
olskolirclol18:25
bobbob1016bandicoot_, koarmic?18:25
bobbob1016olskolirc, you mean Karmic Koala?  I think it's stable, but "Is (insert program name here) stable?" is completely dependent on your setup and everything.18:26
olskolircok bobbob101618:27
olskolirckarmic lagged the audio in my virtualbox18:27
KDeskfabio123: ?18:27
olskolircit only works on ubuntu and I hate ubuntu18:27
bobbob1016olskolirc, ???  You mean Ubuntu vs Kubuntu?  "I hate ubuntu" is a bit generic, "I hate gnome" would be better.  Try changing the audio settings, I recently went to 4.4 and had to tweak my audio settings a lot before it worked.18:28
KDeskolskolirc: yep, that is odd, becasue the main diff between ubuntu and kubunut y gnome and kde, so the sound should work in both. Only that Ubuntu uses pulseaudio by default. You could try installing PA if you like, and if you have problem, remove it.18:31
DaughainNeat, I jjust managed to permaf**k dolphin.18:32
fabio123the font to use for you KDE: Segoe UI from Vista18:35
esdanielfabio123: I prefer Liberation, on principle18:36
rmrfslashThis is a message to anyone working on the Kubuntu project: Nice job with 9.10 KDE 4.4. I'm always the first one on here bitching about Kubuntu, but this is definitely the closest I've seen Linux to supplanting "mainstream OSes". This is fine attention to detail sitting in front of me. Couple rough edges here and there, but I got bug fixes all last night and today. That's incredible determination to make this OS better than just "Ok". To think that I18:37
rmrfslash randomly downloaded this OS a couple years ago -- for FREE -- it's unbelievable.18:37
giuseppe_cool18:38
giuseppe_hello18:38
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bobbob1016Something seems to have frozen my panel, any way I can figure out what, and why?  More specifically, it froze my time, and I can click tasks, but since the positions have changed, they open different tasks18:44
tentacleHello! Does anyone know why isn't the new knetworkmanager widget of KDE 4.4 included in the backport packages for Karmic?18:52
kadditentacle: maybe it changed name again?18:53
tentaclekaddi: I don't know, if it did I can't find it :) I tried to search for it with apt-cache.18:54
kadditentacle: if you searched for it with apt-cache it should have shown at least the "default one" from kde 4.3. It's called plasma-widget-network-manager18:56
ArGGu^^hello is there way to disable all notifications and then enable all?18:58
Peace-ArGGu^^: systemsettings...18:59
ArGGu^^because it is annoying when the notification popup while I am playing something18:59
Peace-ArGGu^^: systemsettings...18:59
tentaclekaddi: Yes, I've found that one and also found plasma-widget-networkmanagement, they're both installed. But it's the old one and according to apt-cache showpkg it has dependencies to some kde libs with version 4.3.2. When I wrote I can't find it with apt-cache I meant I can't find the new one :)18:59
tentaclekaddi: anyway, thank you for your help. Actually it's not so important to have it, I just thought it worth a question :)19:01
kadditentacle: i don't use kde 4.4 from backports yet and I don't use network-manager as a network client, so I'm taking guess.. just trying to help out19:01
ArGGu^^Peace- yes but I havent found option that disables all notifications only that I can disable every notification separately19:01
vbgunzI created a new account in 4.4. grouping windows seems to work in that account *but* not in my old account. anyone know what file needs to be reset to get kwin grouping windows correctly?19:01
tentaclekaddi: thank you very much19:02
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kadditentacle: maybe check out the content of the network package in the kubuntu backport, maybe you'll find it there: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+packages?field.name_filter=network&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=19:06
tentaclekaddi: thanks, I'll look into it :)19:08
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nenadafter upgrading to 4.4  the icons on the desktop revert to their default size. other plasmoids, such is folder view work ok, it's the shortcuts to programs that act strangely. also, the position and rotation are remembered, it's only the size that's reverted to default.... any ideas?19:24
vbgunzI think the performance of kwin has certainly improved over the last couple days for KDE 4.419:31
kaddiwould you advise to switch from kde 4.4 rc2 to final right now, or should I wait a little? I would switch from the beta-repository to the backport one19:33
georgdoes anyone have problems with nepomuk desktopsearch after upgrading to 4.4?19:34
georgbecause I get  an error message an searching does not work19:35
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vbgunzgeorg how do you do a nepomuk search?19:39
nenadgeorg, look here http://is.gd/8eQeW19:40
DarkriftXhow do i go about duplicating installed apps on this laptop onto my new one?19:41
DarkriftXsomeone said there was a command that would write an install script19:41
DarkriftX(for apt-get)19:41
vbgunzDarkriftX: you can try dpkg --get-selections on the notebook you trying to replicate19:41
DarkriftXon the source or destination?19:41
vbgunzon the source19:41
DarkriftXk19:41
vbgunzyou need to feed that file to the destination19:42
DarkriftXdo i need to send that to a file or does it write one automatically?19:42
DarkriftXseems to just output to screen19:42
vbgunzyeah try dpkg --get-selections > tofile19:43
DarkriftXk19:43
esdanielgeorg: did you see the thing about upgrading virtuoso using virtuosoconverter?19:43
georgnenad: thx, that entry was not there in the morning19:43
vbgunznothing I try to fix the nepomuk error works for me, I still get a nepomuk indexing agents have been disabled19:47
muhammad_hi all, sound stopped working on my ubuntu 9.10 out of no where...19:49
muhammad_i installed some software from ubuntu softwre enter but i dont know which software caused the problem, any help please19:49
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* meteor needs help19:51
nenadafter upgrading to 4.4  the icons on the desktop revert to their default size. other plasmoids, such is folder view work ok, it's the shortcuts to programs that act strangely. also, the position and rotation are remembered, it's only the size that's reverted to default.... any ideas?19:54
tentaclemeteor: I don't know where can you find it in ubuntu, but you should check the sound mixer, maybe it's muted.19:56
meteorno its not muted tentacle.19:56
james_lmeteor: Do you have something like a front channel? If not, is there anything related to sound in dmesg.19:57
tentaclemeteor: are you using pulseaudio? if you are, you should check it's settings too.19:58
meteorguys, out of now where i just got a dialog that says KDE has detected that audio device was removed19:59
newbie123abcHi all20:03
newbie123abcis fancy panel broken?20:03
jrmysalut ca va ?20:04
jrmysalut20:05
jrmyil y a quelqu'un ?20:05
jrmyfucked up nazi20:06
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mauriI need to change the root path but i dont know how :linux   /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-19-generic root=UUID=8427388d-977c-4e10-a6e2-5 ro   quiet splash20:10
esdanielmeteor: let the channel know a bit more such as backend (xine or gstreamer), contents of /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc and of course that's on assumption you're using ALSA20:10
esdanielmauri: try this guide: http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/02/how-to-find-your-uuids-for-devices-in-ubuntu-and-other-debian-based-distros/20:11
gmathewshi there. I am trying to use Kubuntu as a media server, but the video on my Bravia 40 is choppy at fast motion scenes..even SD video!20:12
gmathewscan anyone help?20:12
jrmyfrancais svp20:12
esdanieljrmy: sois gentil et je vais essayer20:12
geniijrmy: /join #kubuntu-fr aussi20:13
esdanieljrmy: il a raison ;-)20:13
jrmynan mais le lien xD20:14
jrmyil me faut le lien pour allé sur l'IRC francais ^^20:15
genii!fr20:15
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr, ou #ubuntu-qc pour les Quebecois20:15
esdanieljrmy: un instant, pm20:15
geniiesdaniel: merci20:16
esdanielgmathews: is the spec up to the job?20:21
mauriesdaniel: is there a way to change a root with a directoy?20:22
esdanielgmathews: my own experiences have told me I need at least 1GB of on-board video memory for  24bit 1920x120020:22
ossrawaHi all20:23
nenadafter upgrading to 4.4  the icons on the desktop revert to their default size. other plasmoids, such is folder view work ok, it's the shortcuts to programs that act strangely. also, the position and rotation are remembered, it's only the size that's reverted to default.... any ideas?20:24
esdanielmauri: interesting q mate - the directory is the first part i.e. /boot/....etc and the device where that dir is located is represented by the UUID so I'm a little lost about what you want to attempt, can you elaborate?20:24
gmathewsesdaniel: okay fair enough ;[ but sd video is choppy too! thought it was a kubuntu thing..oir a gstreamer thing20:25
esdanielnenad: write permissions on a config file perhaps? guessing of course20:25
esdanielgmathews: do you have good experiences with other distros that give you the impression it is a kubuntu/gstreamer thing?20:26
mauriesdaniel: my goal is to have 2 differents distros on the same partitions.....each of them located in a different directory20:27
gmathewsesdaniel: no :( wish i did tho.. so u reckon its my laptop video card hey?20:27
esdanielgmathews: I've got an old Acer Aspire, from back in 2000 and I have the same video performance as you do - when I ran two gt6600 in SLI things were better and once I'd got to a 7900gts it became acceptable @ 1200x1084 (i.e. flash stuff)20:28
esdanielgmathews: the gts were in an athlon x2 rig btw20:28
gmathewsesdaniel: looks like i need a gfx card update then20:29
gmathewsesdaniel: thing im going to read up on setting up a media server20:29
gmathewsesdaniel: gfx card first tho ;) thanks for ur time!20:29
esdanielgmathews: if running dekstop media center then a good card, what i use is, an ati hd4870 - though, linux nvidia drivers are better than ATI so might be worth checking out equivalent Nivida (cost c. £120)20:30
gmathewsesdaniel: will do. any suggestions on a media center application in linux?20:31
esdanielgmathews: there's 3 to look at, can't remember their names - LMS is one I think but best to google, they're all quite similar20:31
gmathewsesdaniel: cheers mate! will do..20:32
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esdanielmauri: that's doable, you need to share grub then and create your initrd stuff accordingly - i'd google for a how-to that does exactly this to help you get what you want, i've not done that yet myself, prefer to use dedicated parts of virtual appliances for multi-booting20:33
mauriesdaniel: tnk20:33
esdanielmauri: on relfection while it's possible you will have a nasty time of it, thinking about fact of sharing /var /etc /usr etc.. - even if the distros are debian based you'll run amuck with the conf files in /etc for example - use partitions, it's much safer20:40
mauriesdaniel: if i well understood all path are absolut and not relative.....I supposed that defined the root all the other path started from it20:43
mauriesdaniel: i was wrong so20:43
joh6nni just upgraded to KDE4.4, but the window tabbing feature doesn't appear to be available for me; is there something i need to do to enable it?20:46
esdanielmauri: there is some flexibility via /etc/fstab to mount to particular locations i.e. you could share your /home across distros but be careful what else you try to achieve20:47
newbie123abcmy keyboard stops to work20:47
newbie123abcaccents and cedilla20:47
newbie123abcafter kde 4.4 update20:47
newbie123abcus intl doesn´ t work properly20:48
mauriesdaniel: I know....in fact i tried to canged also the root directory in fstab.....but nothing20:49
mauriesdaniel: I have to learn how the linux works20:50
esdanielmauri: you might want to think about using logical volumes as well20:50
mauriesdaniel: may you give me an example20:50
esdanielmauri: quick tip you might already be doing, have a base system that is stable and use KVM to play with a virtual environment - safe way to experiment without killing your core tools20:51
mauriesdaniel: ah ok.... virtualbox for example20:51
esdanielmauri: yep, here's some background on why logicals are 'useful' http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/14267320:52
mauriesdaniel: but was not i wante3d to do.....20:52
esdanielmauri: i know but you could have tried to do it on a virtual machine in any case20:52
esdanielmauri: i.e. when doing trial and error method of learning the ability to snapshot a VM is the same as the concept of 'save game' in gaming - do it often ;-)20:53
mauriesdaniel: thanks a lot for your time and your suggestions20:54
kirasirrrПривет народ. Не подскажите чего с форумом http://forum.ubuntu.ru/21:14
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baer__Hi Everyone, I could really use some help with getting Network Manager to See my usb wifi adapter21:37
Kagebaer__: the KNetworkManager sucks... I have to use the console21:38
baer__Kage, Im Using Ubuntu, it believe is just the normal NetworkManager.21:40
baer__Kage, what do you do in the console to get it to see wifi adapters??21:40
mauriis there a possibility to merge more than one pdf file?21:41
blah569Plasma Workspace chrashes as soon as I login, what can I do about that?  Is there anything to troubleshoot it or start it up?21:41
mauriusing which utility?21:41
blah569is it possible to start plasma workspace?21:42
blah569"Restart application" is also greyed out21:46
zegenieblah569: you can't restart it directly from the crash dialog, no21:47
zegeniebut you can hit alt+f2 and then just run "plasma-desktop"21:47
zegenieif nothing helps, the best tip is to run konsole, and then delete the plasma configuration from your home directory:21:48
zegenierm -rf ~/.kdeshare/config/plasm*21:49
zegeniesorry, rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*21:49
blah569zegenie:  Thanks!  Chrases after that too though.  After deleting plasma, is it possible to get it back?  Might work after getting it back?21:49
zegeniethat will reset any plasma desktop configuration back to default21:49
zegenieit only deletes any local configuration you might have21:49
zegenieso next time you log in, it will start with a "blank" configuration - the defaults from kde21:50
zegenieif that doesn't help either, you should try to "rm -rf ~/.kde"21:50
zegeniebut that will also remove all kde settings, so unless you want to set up your fonts, desktop wallpaper, kopete kontacts, kmail emails etc over again, avoid it ;)21:51
blah569should I restart after the "/rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/plasm*" ?21:53
blah569I'll try it out.  Thanks for the help!21:55
zegenieblah569: it's enough to just log out and back in21:55
blah569hmm, it still chrases after that.21:56
blah569crashes *21:56
zegenieand not "/rm", drop the slash21:56
zegeniethen I would try to start with a fresh .kde folder21:56
zegeniebut instead of removing it, just move it21:56
blah569ahh yeah man, I dropped the slash on that.  hmm21:57
zegenie"mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old"21:57
zegeniethen log out and back in21:57
zegeniewhat version of kde/kubuntu are you running, btw?21:57
blah569Thanks!  Moved it, going to try loging back in now.  I'm using KDE 4.4 and kubuntu 9.1021:58
blah569Ahh, plasma still crashes.21:59
zegeniehmm, did you install 4.4 only when it was released, or did you also use the RCs?22:00
blah569I installed it only when it was released22:00
zegenieweird - does it crash as soon as you log in?22:01
blah569it chrases as soon as I login, I can still open up windows, but only from alt + f222:01
blah569well, not all applications22:01
Goliath[23:59] <Goliath> i downloaded a rapidshare ebook with opera, and it finished ok22:01
Goliath[00:00] <Goliath> then is it 100% that it was downloaded correctly?22:01
Goliath[00:00] <Goliath> does opera have some type of has check?22:01
blah569it was working fine on kde 4.322:02
blah569but I wanted to upgrade to 4.4 because I used it on regular ubuntu, and it worked out fine.22:03
blah569I downloaded the kubuntu 9.10 image22:03
bob_quick question about the kubuntu 'add widgets' box: what do the gold  "star" and the red 'minus sign indicate?  I thought they were add / remove, but that doesn't seem to be the case.22:05
zegenieblah569: if you really want to try and fix the issues, try dropping into #plasma22:05
zegeniethey'll probably be best to know what's going on22:05
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mql069jhkjh22:08
jeimsola22:09
David_hIIafter a fresh install to ubuntu 9.10 from opensuse i cannot achieve a screen resolution of 1024x768 can anyone help me out?22:14
iconmefisto!resolution22:15
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution22:15
iconmefistoDavid_hII: have you tried that link?22:15
David_hIIlet me look22:16
slow-motionn822:19
bob_quick question about the kubuntu 'add widgets' box: what do the gold  "star" and the red 'minus sign indicate?  I thought they were add / remove, but that doesn't seem to be the case.22:21
iconmefistothe minus removes them. if you see one, it means that widget is in use somewhere22:25
iconmefistothe star adds it to the widgets "favourites"22:26
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DavidH2well no it didnt fix the resolution22:28
iconmefistoyou can double-click to automatically add a widget from the list22:29
twotencan anyone here me?22:31
twotenear22:31
iconmefistoDavidH2: xrandr doesn't change resolution?22:31
DavidH2when i try to do the --newmode it errors22:31
bob_quick question about the kubuntu 'add widgets' box: what do the gold  "star" and the red 'minus sign indicate?  I thought they were add / remove, but that doesn't seem to be the case.22:32
twotenI just installed Kubuntu 9.10!22:33
oxymorontwoten: Good for you :)22:33
iconmefistobob_: I answered that ^^22:33
twotenwhen I edit text in a word processor or web page, the down arrow key and the End key do nothing22:34
twotenwhat gives?22:34
codenamenosi want to copy whole website of lyrics any idea how i gonna do that?22:34
bob_iconmefisto: thanks.  Is there a FAQ you can point me to?22:34
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DavidH2ok. so i got the new resoution made. now how do i save it. so it will be perm  and will showup in the display settings when i reboot?22:36
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iconmefistobob_: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.0/guide.php22:38
iconmefistoDavidH2: on the same page, under  "Setting xrandr commands in kdm/gdm startup scripts"22:40
DavidH2ok22:40
iconmefistoDavidH2: basically, put the xrandr command in /etc/kde4/kdm/Xsetup22:40
DavidH2i put it in etc/gdm/init22:43
iconmefistoDavidH2: that will work for gnome, but not kde22:44
iconmefistoDavidH2: at least I think it won't work in kde22:44
DavidH2humm.. what enviorment am i in then22:44
DavidH2i thought i was in gnome22:45
Torch(gdm is gnome's login manager, kdm is kde's... both can be used to log into kde or gnome)22:45
iconmefistoDavidH2: you have kubuntu installed, or ubuntu?22:45
DavidH2ubuntu22:45
iconmefistoDavidH2: ok, then you would have gnome by default22:46
DavidH2ok i iwll brb restarting22:46
twotenhow can I assign keyboard keys in kde?22:46
Torchtwoten: systemsettings -> keyboard and mouse -> global keyboard shortcuts22:47
david__HIIit seems that it didnt work. still only 600x800 & 640x480 is avail22:50
valoriehi folks22:50
valorieI'm having a problem updating22:51
twotenTorch: I need to define a key system wide, my down arrow and end keys aren't working, but I checked them in xev so I know they're there22:51
valoriesynaptic choked three times, so I did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:52
twotenupdating: finding a better mate for Valentine's Day22:52
valorieand when that didn't work, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f22:52
james_ldavid__HII: What driver are you using? Have you specified any particular modes?22:52
valorieand get this error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/375051/22:52
valorieany advice?22:52
valorieI'm a bit worried about restarting22:53
david__HIIjames im really new to this. i need somone to lead me through it22:53
Torchvalorie: apt is confused. uninstall phonon-dbg, it's not a required package anyway.22:53
valoriewould that be the best solution?22:53
Torchvalorie: no.22:53
valoriewell, I'm helping with Amarok debugging22:54
Torchvalorie: you need to get this fixed.22:54
valorieso it sorta is necessary22:54
Torchvalorie: you may install it again later.22:54
valorieOK22:54
valorieuninstalled it22:55
valoriethen did apt-get -f install22:57
valoriesheesh, I think I'm still getting the same erro22:57
valorier22:57
david__HIIall i have done is created a new mode and copied it to /etc/gdm/init/default22:58
valoriegads: http://paste.ubuntu.com/375056/22:59
valorieI think I'm in a loop22:59
oxymoronCOuld someone tell me what the heck is going on with the Kwin effects like group windows and split windows?23:00
Torchvalorie: i still think you should just uninstall the two problematic packages.23:01
valorietrying that23:02
valorieok, finally they are gone23:04
valorieand dist-upgrade reports no problems23:04
valorie:-)23:04
valoriethanks very much Torch23:05
Torchvalorie: yw23:05
david__HIIi dont know23:07
aftertafkde 4.4 SC latest updatebreaks kdm. anyone else noticed?23:07
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Guest90325help23:08
Guest90325svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/runtime/desktoptheme/air23:08
Guest90325bash: svn: command not found23:08
sixsudo apt-get install svn23:10
sixbzw subversion23:10
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Guest90325six ok23:11
ToxinPowekopete has support for webcam on msn?23:11
KageToxinPowe: I think so23:13
ToxinPoweI can see me on Preferences/Video, but I don't see any button to use it on chat23:13
oxymoronTorch: Whats status on KDM, Kwin and so on? Latest update ppa7 has made Lancelot does not work at all and window effects neither. Then the aweseom feature with dragging window to edges does not work either, now it changes desktop instead so I put the window in another desktop, wtf?! :S Except that everything works awesome, but I REALLY want that functionality, especially window tab gropuing in titlebars :)23:14
david__HIIicon, you still there23:14
Torchoxymoron: huh? go slow... this is confusing ;-)23:14
oxymoronTorch: Alright ... first of all the KDM bug seems to be solved in latest package update, the screen of black :D But at the same time it affected other packages like Kwin and they have changed the some awesome features or settings for some eye candy.23:15
aftertafkdm : dependency issue with kdebase-greet package23:16
aftertafive switched to gdm until fixed23:16
oxymoronTorch: Middle-click on titlebar and drag it to another for window gropuing does not work at all, WHen I click on lancelot menu it does not open and drag a window to the top edge does not maximize it for instance.23:16
Torchoxymoron: the latter works for me.23:17
Torchoxymoron: lemme check the grouping23:17
oxymoronTorch: Do you use Karmic or Lucid?23:17
Torchoxymoron: this is karmic.23:17
valorieyikes, why do I now have two overlapping taskbars?23:17
oxymoronTorch: And which ppa version in backport do you use?23:17
Torchoxymoron: 4:4.4.0-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa7 for kde-window-manager23:19
Torchoxymoron: the grouping doesn't work right now... checking if it needs to setting.23:19
oxymoronTorch: Alright, same as me. Okay then, something is very wrong somewhere.23:19
Torchoxymoron: i remember having it on svn-trunk a while ago. but i think i needed to set something in systemsettings to make it active or something like that...23:19
oxymoronTorch: I have been trying to find the setting to enable it completely but I dont find it and should work.23:20
Torchoxymoron: you need to activate it in systemsettings23:21
oxymoronTorch: its not neccessary but I really looked forward to it when I saw it in the KDE 4.4 release and got used to that maximize and split window view when draggin to edges. I must have that, its freaking awesome.23:21
oxymoronTorch: WHERE exactly do I enable it, its many settings in there :P23:21
Torchoxymoron: window behaviour -> window behaviour -> titlebar actions -> middle button23:21
Torchoxymoron: set it to "start window tab drag"23:22
Torch(which is probably the default UNLESS updating from 4.3)23:22
oxymoronTorch: I have it enabled, does not work ..23:23
Torchoxymoron: it does. it's a little tricky.23:23
Torchoxymoron: the window needs to be active when you start the drag.23:23
Torchoxymoron: also, you can only group windows of the same app type iirc.23:23
Torchoxymoron: my test case is two konsole windows.23:23
oxymoronTorch: And middle button means scroll wheel right?23:24
Torchoxymoron: right.23:24
oxymoronTorch: No. nothing happens at all :(23:24
Torchoxymoron: well, maybe something's broken indeed with your install.23:25
inclementoxymoron: You are using the 'oxyegen' theme, right?23:25
inclement*Oxygen23:25
oxymoroninclement: Not sure, I have been changing around with some themes :P COuld be that. I use AirOxygen theme for the windows :P23:25
oxymoroninclement: But should be Air theme though23:26
inclementoxymoron: You have to use the 'Oxygen' them exactly for it to work23:26
inclementI think23:26
oxymoronTorch: But other things work I think :P When I recently turned on desktop effects, the Compiz engine I mena.23:26
Torchoxymoron: huh? compiz?23:26
inclementAirOxygen is something different?23:26
oxymoroninclement: Wtf? :S Do I HAVE to use Oxygen for it to work? :S23:27
Torchoxymoron: not as far as i know.23:27
oxymoronTorch: App tray => system => desktop effects23:27
inclementoxymoron: I believe the effects and styles that it uses are built into oxygen23:27
inclementAnd no other style yet23:27
oxymoronTorch: I uninstalled it afterwards though.23:27
inclementIt may be worth switching to oxygen (in both 'style' and 'windows' of the appearance menu) to see if it then works23:27
oxymoroninclement: Sorry my language, but WHAT a FUCK?! Why on earth is it binded to theme style? :O23:28
Torchinclement: this is a feature of kwin. why do you think it's related to a plasma theme?23:28
inclementTorch: Because I read it somewhere (I forget where) and it only works in oxygen for me23:28
Torchinclement: fair enough. i'll check with a different theme ;-)23:28
inclementBut perhaps I am wrong :)23:28
oxymoronAt least I want Air theme, the other one sucks23:29
inclementWith other themes, I just have no grouping options23:29
* Torch picks plastique style.23:29
Torchyuck.23:29
Torchhmm. where did they move the plasma-theme-setting stuff?23:30
oxymoronIf it is theme binded, why is it so? Isnt the effects independent on the theme? :S23:30
Torchinclement: alright, just for you... picked plastique style and aya theme... looks... interesting ;-)23:32
Torchinclement: and of course window grouping still works.23:32
inclementTorch: Window grouping does not work in anything but oxygen for me, I also just tested it23:32
oxymoronTorch, inclement: WHile weyre still at it, why this error in apt-get: ": Duplicate sources.list entry http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_kubuntu-ppa_backports_ubuntu_dists_karmic_main_binary-i386_Packages)"23:32
inclementSo maybe it's meant to, but has some problems for not just me :D23:32
Torchoxymoron: well, do you have duplicate entries?23:33
oxymoronTorch: No it should not be ... I cant find any duplicates23:34
Torchoxymoron: looked in /etc/apt/sources.list AND all files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?23:34
oxymoronTorch: sources.list.d? :S23:35
Torchoxymoron: the idea is to leave sources.list itself alone and add any additional repos by creating separate files under sources.list.d23:36
Torchoxymoron: much cleaner. i don't know what the GUIs like kpackage do, however.23:36
oxymoronTorch: Eh okay? :S Well KPackage and Adept store them inside etc/apt/sources.list but seems like somtimes Aptitude uses the folder instead ...23:37
* Torch mumbles sth incomprehensible about stupid guis.23:37
oxymoronTorch: I am confused and dont know what to do ...23:40
JontheEchidnawhen you add stuff with the sources.list gui it goes to a file in sources.list.d23:41
oxymoronTorch: In sorces.list.d: What is the difference between *.save and *.list?23:41
Torchoxymoron: well, do you find duplicate entries when taking the sources.list.d dir into account?23:42
Torchoxymoron: there shouldn't be any .save entries, these are backups created by guis (or aptitude, i don't use it)23:42
oxymoronTorch: Yes, I have two of them, but one is .list and the other one .save23:42
JontheEchidna(both tools launch software-properties when you hit the button)23:42
Torchoxymoron: delete the .save one23:42
oxymoronTorch: Gah same error! :'(23:43
Torchoxymoron: don't panic ;-)23:43
oxymoronTorch: No, but I hate this, I just want it to work flawless out of the box. The developers should use same standard protcol but nobody do, everybody do as they wish, it sucks.23:44
oxymoronSome consistency would be nice.23:44
Torchoxymoron: trying not to sound harsh, but the package guis all just suck.23:45
oxymoronTorch: Yes, I use only the apt-get CLI now :P23:45
Torchoxymoron: if you just stick to apt-get and dpkg on the shell it all works fine... seems like 1996, but at least it works.23:45
Torchoxymoron: clean up your sources.list and sources.list.d/* files by hand. make backups first.23:46
oxymoronTorch: Define cleanup?23:47
Torchoxymoron: if you still get the error, ther has to be a duplicate entry.23:48
Torchoxymoron: go through the entries one by one and see if you need them at all. and remove duplicates.23:48
oxymoronTorch: *Sighs* Awesome ... I never got this error before ...23:49
Torchoxymoron: the alternative to your frustation is to use kubuntu 9.10 like it's shipped and never add a repo ;-)23:50
ilumineed open src video conferencing that's secure, anything out there?23:50
oxymoronTorch: Well I need dropbox, zend studio and backports for KDE 4.423:50
[GuS]hey guys, sorry to disturb again with the same thing... i can´ t yet fix this bug, even when i tried many times the suggested workaround (was working before latest updates) https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/52040823:51
oxymoronTorch: I think it is the backport slot that breaks everything :P23:51
Torchoxymoron: i didn't mean this seriously... just to help you get over the frustration that stuff doesn't work as expected.23:52
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oxymoronTorch: Yes I appreciate that :) I just sigh and try to be patient.23:55
Torchoxymoron: you're doing fine ;-)23:56
oxymoronTorch: The only thing I want is as I said flawless desktop experience. If it was possible I would reach a special KDE and Kubuntu version of every package that works perfect and then lock the whole system forever :D23:58
Torch[GuS]: i don't have a solution, but i can reproduce.23:58
oxymoronTorch: With lock I mean keep the same state forever :P23:58
[GuS]Torch: :(23:58
rmrfslashWhen you login to Kubuntu, why does the background image flip to some grey image with bubbles on it?23:59
[GuS]i hard to work, i use spanish and most of the time i use accented characters23:59
[GuS]is*23:59

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