[00:32] could someone using lucid + amd64 test one or a few packages? they prevent firefox from running: xul-ext-greasemonkey, xul-ext-mozgest [00:33] there are several more on addons.mozilla.org, but I figured testing the packaged ones might be easier. [01:06] hmm when did micahg get membership? [01:11] a while ago [02:14] [reed]: go ahead and disable the LP account [05:18] debian bug system for the mailing list... [05:18] i don't care about icedove [05:19] LLStarks: ubuntu-mozillateam is maintainer for icedove [05:19] icecat or icedove? === micahg changed the topic of #ubuntu-mozillateam to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Mozilla Team: | ML: http://is.gd/83fnr | to get firefox 3.6 run: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable" - then use update-manager to update your system | whats up with firefox + search + lucid: 1. search page will respect your search provider choice; 2. default will be Yahoo! - http://is.gd/83e8U | Next Meeting: TBA [05:19] LLStarks: either [05:19] well [05:19] idk what icecat is [05:20] debian iceweasel i think [05:20] there's iceweasel (firefox), icedove (thunderbird) [05:20] there's one for SM, but I don't remember [05:20] ah. icecat is gnu firefox [05:21] ah, yes, further than debian :) [05:21] [reed]: so now we can clean up bmo? [05:21] <[reed]> micahg: indeed [05:21] <[reed]> micahg: feel free to remove see also links [05:22] <[reed]> launchpad can't add them back ;) [05:25] I cleaned 2, if I see more, I'll do what I can [06:12] [reed]: mozilla bug 502369, i want it on 1.9.2 plz [06:12] Mozilla bug 502369 in JIT Compiler (NanoJIT) "sparc linux lacks sync_instruction_memory rendering xulrunner unbuildable" [Major,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502369 [06:15] <[reed]> armin76: ok, requested [06:16] <[reed]> well, maybe [06:16] <[reed]> my browser crashed [06:18] lol [06:18] thanks === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine [08:52] Bons Dias [10:22] asac: any reason firefox firefox-branding firefox-gnome-support are being held back other than it will remove mozilla-packagekit [10:23] oh and hi ;) [11:10] * gnomefreak is really tired of this bug :( [11:52] gnomefreak: hi [11:53] [reed]: whats going on with launchpad bmo integration? [11:53] that got killed now? [11:55] ArneGoetje: hi [12:01] anyone able to reproduce this bug? if so can you please comment on bug? [12:01] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/520918 [12:01] Ubuntu bug 520918 in gnome-terminal "During upgrade/dist-upgrade the terminal window changes color." [Undecided,New] [12:05] yeah [12:05] terminal window changes color or me too [12:05] but its not really on dist-upgtrade [12:05] it happens without any easy to identiy trigger [12:05] actually now that you say it ... i think i havent seend that issue lately [12:05] like or the last ew days [12:06] will keep my eyes open [12:12] kenvandine, empathy crashes when i try to re-open it from the indicator applet [12:16] somewhere in gobject :( [12:17] fta: I'm getting that too. specifically it's the unhiding empathy that causes the segfault [12:22] "Searching for your bug in Launchpad took too long." [12:22] bad lp [12:23] asac: hi [12:23] bug 473381 [12:23] Launchpad bug 473381 in evolution "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in IA__g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__VOID() (dup-of: 440527)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/473381 [12:23] Launchpad bug 440527 in evolution-mapi "evolution crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440527 [12:24] hm [12:28] ArneGoetje: do you need more info for the searchplugin things? [12:28] anyone running karmic here? [12:28] asac: where have you put the files? [12:29] asac: I am [12:29] ArneGoetje: with firefox 3.5? [12:29] it seems my bug happens in synaptic terminal output as well [12:29] asac: yep [12:29] can you please run a a find /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins and paste the output? [12:30] asac: in karmic? [12:30] ArneGoetje: yes. [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-people.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-support.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/creativecommons.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/debsearch.src [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/wikipedia.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/answers.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/amazondotcom.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/debsearch.gif [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/yahoo.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/google.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/en-US/eBay.xml [12:30] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-specs.xml [12:31] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/common [12:31] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-packages.xml [12:31] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-package-bugs.xml [12:31] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-bug-lookup.xml [12:31] /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/launchpad-bugs.xml [12:31] ArneGoetje: ls -l /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/common/ [12:31] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 2009-09-03 10:33 common -> . [12:32] drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-01-07 09:14 en-US [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1335 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-bug-lookup.xml [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1402 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-bugs.xml [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 783 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-package-bugs.xml [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 998 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-packages.xml [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1523 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-people.xml [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 979 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-specs.xml [12:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1803 2009-02-13 08:27 launchpad-support.xml [12:32] ok [12:32] ArneGoetje: what language are you using on your desktop? [12:32] asac: en_US [12:33] ok. can you switch to some other language and see if you still get the searchplugins that are in en-US (thats wanted) [12:33] asac: what is the name of the address bar in firefox? is it ausome bar? [12:33] gnomefreak: awesomebar [12:33] asac: thanks [12:39] asac: if you mean the different search engines in the searchbar, then yes, they are all there. [12:39] cool [12:41] let me check something [12:41] one second [12:43] ok so lets add a dir: [12:43] data/9.10/firefox/searchplugins/ [12:43] and inside there add a directory for each language that we want to ship special searchplugins for [12:44] e.g. "de" [12:44] let me try something [12:46] ArneGoetje: are the current langpacks supposed to work in firefox 3.6? [12:49] asac: yep [12:49] ArneGoetje: ok let me try [12:50] ArneGoetje: so code wise you can already implement to copy the searchplugins directory [12:50] i will get you instructions what to put there soon [12:50] asac: ok [12:50] ArneGoetje: maybe start with copying the current en-US we have in the package there [12:50] and name it de etc. [12:51] try a few languages for now [12:55] asac: we are only doing this for lucid right now? [13:05] yes [13:05] only lucid [13:12] * gnomefreak would love to see tb3 in Lucid before FF so we dont need a FFE [13:13] hmm [13:13] +EM_TRANSLATION_VERSION = 3.6 [13:13] +EM_TRANSLATION_MIN_VERSION = $(EM_TRANSLATION_VERSION) [13:13] +EM_TRANSLATION_MAX_VERSION = $(EM_TRANSLATION_VERSION).* [13:13] thats wrong [13:13] because of the 3.6? [13:15] well. EM_TRANSLATION_VERSION should be current version [13:15] MIN_VERSION should be 3.6 [13:15] etc. [13:16] but shouldnt hurt for now [13:16] uploaded ubuntu2 [13:20] asac: until when are you available today? [13:21] not sure [13:21] till after release meeting [13:22] * gnomefreak having issues with firefox 3.6 3.7 opens [13:22] ArneGoetje: and then in the hamburg evening i guess. have to travel after release meeting [13:22] i wont go out today because i am still badly sick [13:23] asac: I see... [13:24] asac: we need to allow firefox to work with the default theme in Lucid. I can not see the window bar at top disply the name [13:25] gnomefreak: i dont understand what you mean ;) [13:26] asac: above the address bar you will see the menus if you look above that on the same area that close/min/max buttons are it is dark and cant see wnythin no that area other than the close/ect.. buttons [13:27] it should have firefox name and such there [13:28] oh it is a custom theme but it happens on any dark theme (dark as it really dark [13:29] its not a firefox thing but everything has this issue it seems [13:30] im using the themes and such to make my custom theme i do not stray from them [13:30] brb [13:36] im using the human login window boarder [13:36] "HumanLogin" [13:39] * gnomefreak still unable to use icon nor terminal to start firefox i have to use --safe-mode to start it [13:40] it was working fine until updates. no extension updates few extenions [13:42] i only have ubufox nightly tester prism extension [13:43] hmmmmmm [13:53] i need to find a way to disable all extensions without using --safe-mode or new profile [13:53] hi asac [13:54] I see you're fixing the localized plugins issue :) [13:55] gnomefreak: I don't think there's a way [13:58] asac: I'm still busy on language-selector, will implement the searchplugin thing later tonight. [13:58] micahg: this is going to be very very hard to figure out than [13:59] gnomefreak: why? [13:59] if i use the above i am than able to use firefox fine if i dont use them i can not launch firefox [13:59] 3.7 works fine [14:00] no output in terminal at all so no help there [14:00] micahg: yes [14:00] haha [14:00] [reed]: that guy on the sparc bug is fun :P [14:01] asac: mozilla bug 502369 <- last comments are fun [14:01] Mozilla bug 502369 in Nanojit "sparc linux lacks sync_instruction_memory rendering xulrunner unbuildable" [Major,Reopened] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502369 [14:01] i have ubufox, prism, and nightly override extensions enabled [14:01] prism isn't made for anything above 3.5 yet if you're using archive [14:02] micahg: i am so maybe it is disabled [14:02] i have something to try :) thanks for the thought [14:02] micahg: yes [14:03] i uploaded ubuntu2 [14:03] asac: k [14:03] waiting till builds are finished and then pushing ubuntu3 with those two changes [14:03] asac: I wasn't sure what to do since you mentioned localized plugins [14:04] look what i did [14:04] thats what should have been done ;) [14:05] ArneGoetje: ok. that giveds me a bit getting you the proper searchplugins [14:13] they shld switch off the "I'm feeling lucky" stuff in location bar [14:13] I'm always feeling pretty unlucky [14:14] I just changed keyword.url [14:15] mahfouz: it's changing to yahoo! anyways :P [14:15] nooooooo [14:15] at least I thought that's what's happening [14:15] because of chinese fx users :) [14:15] it should use your search provider [14:16] if I had any say, use yahoo but no "feeling lucky" option [14:16] i don't think yahoo has such an option, do they [14:16] :/ [14:16] ? [14:17] no we dont change keyword url [14:17] at least in the first run [14:17] just searchplugin and homepage [14:17] reason: lack of feeling lucky [14:17] heh [14:17] mahfouz: ^^^ I was mistaken :) [14:18] asac, I hate this feeling lucky, it's mostly wrong [14:18] and then I have to type the whole string again [14:19] use the searchblox then ;) [14:19] i have no search box [14:19] thats your decision then ;) [14:19] I know I can do keyword search [14:20] but still [14:20] you can manually change the keyword url to not do "i am lucky" [14:20] good by [14:20] yes, I just changed my keyword.url [14:21] speaking of keyword.url, how are we going to link that to the search engine dropdown? [14:35] LLStarks: atm we dont plan to link that. we just keep the mozilla default [14:35] and that's google. [14:47] asac: it's been a while, do I add a changelog entry if I just rebase a patch? [14:48] micahg: 3.7? [14:48] i dont think so [14:49] yeah [14:49] k [14:49] LLStarks: yes. does that make you unhappy or happy? [14:57] they should match. but maybe that's impractical. [14:59] LLStarks: the technical bits are a bit tricky for that.... maybe lucid+1 [14:59] i dont want to mess with prefs basically... the homepage is done without that === asac_ is now known as asac [15:50] !info modalbox [15:50] Package modalbox does not exist in karmic [15:50] !info libjs-modalbox [15:50] Package libjs-modalbox does not exist in karmic [15:50] grrr [16:06] ok, packaged [16:06] another dead fish in my +junk :P [16:28] asac, apparently, ch beta is now 5.0.307.7 [16:29] but last upload failed, i need to resync the branch [16:29] cool [16:29] can we go for beta then? [16:29] fta: there is something i need to talk to you about ;) (-meeting) [16:29] fta: we need to understand whats going on with upstream release process before we can consider to commit supporting chromium as a default browser [16:30] hm, ok. which part is not clear enough? [16:35] default browser for what? [16:39] fta: e.g. how is it done? [16:39] atm [16:39] do we have a reliably method to track their channels? [16:40] or can that be forgotten in future? [16:40] yes, http://omahaproxy.appspot.com/ is now properly populated by their internal system [16:41] it's no longer manual [16:41] what kind of url is that? [16:41] appspot? [16:42] just browse it, it's a plain text file [16:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/374835/ [16:44] why is it appspot? [16:44] i would have thought chromium.org [16:44] #or something [16:44] do you have a post where they say that thats now official? [16:44] i need that info for a MIR [16:46] http://src.chromium.org/svn/releases/LATEST.txt [16:47] trust me, i had to fight for this to happen [16:50] asac, ^^ [19:08] asac: ok, now I have time for the searchplugins [19:08] fta: was there a bug or something where i can find an official statement? [19:08] i trust you ;) ... but committing to support this would be easier if there was a blog entry or a bug comment etc. [19:09] ArneGoetje: hi [19:09] ArneGoetje: so you have off the whole next week? [19:14] asac, sorry, no idea. at some point LATEST.txt was stuck, i kept on asking to restart it but the answer was always the same "we're discussing internally", then in svn, it changed to what it is now. [19:15] asac: yep... national holidays [19:16] asac, you can probably ask markmentovai or laforge for more details [19:19] fta: do you have emails for them? [19:19] fta: maybe send in msg [19:19] ArneGoetje: the whole week? [19:19] asac: yes [19:19] ArneGoetje: ok so what are our "first tier" languages? [19:19] i would suggest we do the searchplugins for those [19:20] asac: those on the CD? [19:20] start by copying them directly from the searchplugins/en-US dir we ship in firefox [19:20] ArneGoetje: not sure how to define that ... but i think so [19:20] i think we have a short list of primary locdales [19:20] like 8 ... that we consaider most important [19:20] like de, fr, es, pt, zh, etc. [19:20] asac: yeah... those get shipped on the CD [19:21] asac: so, what's the procedure? [19:22] ArneGoetje: in data/10.04/firefox-3.6 create a searchplugins directory [19:22] and there you create directories for the locales we want to ship translations for [19:23] use the full country code variant [19:23] e.g. de-DE, es-ES, fr-FR etc. [19:23] for now [19:23] ok [19:23] then you copy the searchplugins we currently have in en-US in there [19:23] then fix the script so those get shipped in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/searchplugins/LANGCODE/ accordingly [19:23] when that is working let me know [19:23] i tell you how to test that [19:24] and give you a couple of searchplugins we should change in the first patch [19:24] batch [19:26] asac: ok [19:27] asac: where do the searchplugins come from? firefox source package? [19:28] ArneGoetje: let me give you the initial batch. in the end we should pull them from a firefox branch i have to dig out ... but that can happen in next batch [19:29] asac: ok [19:30] ArneGoetje: http://people.canonical.com/~asac/tmp/searchplugins.en-US.tar.gz [19:30] ArneGoetje: dont ship en-US that way for now ... e.g. skip it. we already ship those in the package [19:30] but use those plugins for all langs atm [19:30] once we have tested it i will give you updated yahoo ones ;) [19:30] asac: all langs except en-US [19:30] for each lang [19:31] right [19:31] do the first tier langs for now [19:31] everything else can happen after a3 [19:40] asac: do we need a full-export from rosetta for shipping those searchplugins, or is a delta update sufficient? [19:41] ArneGoetje: i think we dont need any export/update [19:41] just the same sources you used before [19:41] as long as the searchplugins/ end up in the right place on users system its fine [19:48] big jump for the beta.. chromium-browser (4.0.249.43~r34537 -> 5.0.307.7~r38400) [85.41MB (+5745kB, +6.72%)] [19:52] nice [19:52] i love that we are getting a beta in the archive [19:53] fta: we should try to see how they handle security updates there [19:53] e.g. do they bump it with individual patches etc. [19:53] or are there never any security fixes at all etc. [19:53] jdstrand: do you see webkit CVEs on vendor-sec sometimes? [19:53] i would like to see how well chromium fixes those [19:55] asac, they say they update all the branches that need to be updated (creating a new version immediately visible in the channel(s)). the QA seems to happen after the commits but before they bump the channels [19:56] meaning there are plenty of releases (with tags) that never end up in the channels [19:56] it's up to the release manager to give the go for a channel bump [19:58] fta: how can we track that? [19:58] e.g. how do we know if all landed [19:58] and is working fine [19:59] and what issues are addressed? [19:59] do they send out release info somewhere? [20:00] maybe by digging into http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/CHROMIUM/search?path=/branches [20:02] hmm. thats painful ;) [20:03] so for beta updates the stuff would land on 307 branch? [20:03] http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/ [20:03] yep 307 [20:03] so is that 307 commit in our current package? [20:03] e.g. Merge 38320 - Enable the use of Freetype's emboldening in Chrome/Linux. Skia's is not so pretty. [20:03] * asac wonders what kind of stable update that is ;) [20:16] micahg: we wanted to add something for next firefox 3.6 update, right? [20:16] * asac wonders what that was [20:16] * asac should take more detailed notes given his brain capacities [20:19] asac: not usually vendor-sec. the ubuntu-security team is on the webkit security mailing list though [20:26] jdstrand: right. could you check if http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/ and http://svnsearch.org/svnsearch/repos/CHROMIUM/search?path=/branches would be a good enough source to verify those in chromium? [20:26] anyway. i will ask how we can do this [20:26] i assume they have some ideas ;) [20:26] will come back to you [20:27] asac: verify 'those'? what are 'those'? webkit CVEs? they surely won't publicly commit or blog until after they release [20:28] asac: iirc google hsa let webkit security know ahead of time [20:34] ok. i think we should talk a bit more in depth on this whole topic. maybe with kees? on monday? [20:34] jdstrand: ? [20:35] asac: was apport hook [20:37] micahg: right. [20:44] asac: we can do that-- we have a standing security meeting at 18:00 UTC [20:44] asac: sorry, I need to sleep. Please send me a mail with the steps I need to do and I will follow up with it. [20:44] asac: in #ubuntu-meeting [20:47] jdstrand: i think we should talk on the phone to get a few things sorted. we can then present the results in a meeting [20:49] about the vars for the TB scripts, are these ok: FOUND_OLD, FOUND_CURRENT, FOUND_BETA [20:50] old => .m-tb, current => .tb, beta => .tb-3 [20:50] asac: ^^ [20:50] micahg: paste the script please ... i lack context ;) [20:51] asac: here's the part that defines the vars: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/374978/ [20:55] brb 10 min [21:15] d'oh! http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/12/man-smashes-27-tvs-a.html [21:30] back [21:30] asac: are my vars ok? [22:02] evening o/ [22:06] asac, https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/channels [22:07] enh? [22:07] what's that? [22:08] read the description :) [22:09] the idea is to remember when each channel was updated [22:09] so i've implemented a kind of watcher storing the changes in a bzr branch [22:10] fta: did you kill Buzz?? [22:10] kill? [22:11] nothing going on there! just stopped [22:13] lol [22:15] asac: you still around to review my script? [22:19] oldie but still VERY funny http://dl.dropbox.com/u/112892/Karaoke%20pra%20Surdo%20e%20Mudo.wmv Karaoke pra Surdo e Mudo [22:19] micahg: yes [22:21] bbib [22:47] micahg: script working or still struggeling? [22:47] asac: thought I had it, but it's not working... [22:47] asac: should I pastebin the while file? [22:47] *whole [22:48] if you need help, yes. [22:48] whats the problem? [22:48] well, it's not picking up the old profile [22:49] http://pastebin.com/fa3caf6c [22:49] line 86 and on [22:49] I still have to change some ff references [22:52] asac: I have to go, should I push up what I have or work on it more sat night? [22:52] micahg: you seem to not mv the OLD one if there is no CURRENT one [22:52] asac: good catch.... [22:52] mv $HOMEDIR/$CURRENT $HOMEDIR/$CURRENT.$$ [22:52] micahg: what does that do? [22:52] * micahg never moves the old one :( [22:53] right [22:53] asac: hopefully unique name if there's an .upstream folder already [22:53] nah [22:53] lets just not move it if the .upstream one already exists imo [22:53] if .upstream exists we consider the old migration done [22:53] if a .mozilla-thunderbird comes back, its not our business [22:54] assuming we properly move that one [22:54] ok fix that when back ;) [22:54] i am out now for a bit too [22:59] asac: k, i guess I have to finish tomorrow night... [23:11] -linux,dev,5.0.307.5 [23:11] +linux,dev,5.0.322.2 [23:12] asac, ^^ [23:15] yes. but can we track beta for now? [23:26] sure, just to show you that all branches move very quickly