[00:01] <sabgenton> what is a shure fire way to test you printer from the comand line
[00:05] <Spanglish_7776> hmm sabgenton 1 sec
[00:06] <sabgenton> :)
[00:06] <Spanglish_7776> this miight help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=222180
[00:06] <Spanglish_7776> hmm 1 sec agin
[00:06] <Spanglish_7776> again*
[00:07] <Spanglish_7776> sabgenton you have cups installed?
[00:07] <sabgenton> yeah
[00:07] <sabgenton> is there not some way I can print without cups?
[00:07] <sabgenton> just form the command line?
[00:08] <sabgenton> a usb brother 2040 is plug in via usb
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> and it's detected?
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> ?
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> dmesg
[00:08] <Spanglish_7776> are you using ubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <Spanglish_7776> ?
[00:09] <Spanglish_7776> sabgenton are you using ubuntu-desktop
[00:09] <Avenegra> hello, anyone with experience with samba AD member fileservers?
[00:10] <sabgenton> no ubuntu server headless
[00:10] <Spanglish_7776> Aven, I'm actually working on the same thing.
[00:10] <Spanglish_7776> sabgenton, gotcha
[00:10] <sabgenton> sorry my internet just restarted
[00:10] <Spanglish_7776> np sab, is you're printer detected and the driver installed?
[00:11] <Spanglish_7776> you can unplug and plug the usb cable and in the command line type dmesg and see if it's detected, etc
[00:11] <sabgenton> I've tryed  redirecting files to > /dev/lp0
[00:11] <sabgenton> but nothing
[00:11] <Spanglish_7776> is it showing in dmesg?
[00:12] <Spanglish_7776> 1 sec
[00:15] <sabgenton> nope
[00:16] <Avenegra> anyone has experience in samba active directory integration? i have a server running ok but there's a problem: when connecting as the domain admin the files created appear owned as root:"domain admins", why it wont map correctly?
[00:17] <sabgenton> Spanglish_7776: any Ideas?
[00:17] <Spanglish_7776> googling 1 sec
[00:23] <Spanglish_7776> sab- try lp filename
[00:26] <Spanglish_7776> work sabgenton?
[00:28] <sabgenton> $ lp filef lp: Error - no default destination available.
[00:28] <Spanglish_7776> printer is probably not installed correctly
[00:28] <sabgenton> yep thats why I'm here
[00:29] <sabgenton> should lp work if cups isn't installed
[00:29] <sabgenton> ?
[00:29] <sabgenton> or do you need cups for every type of printing
[00:30] <sabgenton> apparently I should have symlinked stuff before installing drivers?
[00:31] <sabgenton> sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/cupsys /etc/init.d/cups
[00:31] <sabgenton> ?
[00:34] <sabgenton> do I need lpd drivers??
[00:34] <sabgenton> I only installed the cups driver for my printer not the lpd
[00:35] <sabgenton> ok symlinking seems silly as there is a reall file there
[00:35] <sabgenton> oh wait
[00:35] <sabgenton> the installer put it there
[00:35] <sabgenton> probably
[00:39] <sabgenton> ok I'm going to try move /etc/init.d/cups to /etc/init.d/cupsys
[00:39] <sabgenton> and makeing the later a symlink to the former
[00:42] <Roxyhart0> I i am trying to add this acl on ldap using the command: ldapmodify -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W . But i am getting: invalid format (line 4) entry: "olcDatabase={1}hdb,cn=config"
[00:42] <Roxyhart0> my acls are: http://pastebin.com/d4dbec0b . Any idea?
[01:22] <Roxyhart0> i just include the acl but i am gettin this error: hi, i did the acl but when i restart samba i got this error: palm slapd[8779]: bdb_db_cache: db_open(sambaDomainName) failed:Permission denied (13) any idea?
[01:26] <ZimCS> has anyone used backupPC before?
[01:28] <twb> !anyone
[01:30] <Roxyhart0> Does anyone/anybode know how i can know if my nss_ldap can connect to LDAP? i am getting this error but i dont know why..nss_ldap: could not connect to any LDAP server as cn=admin,d...
[01:31] <twb> nss_ldap can connect to LDAP -- there wouldn't be any point to it if it couldn't.
[01:31] <Roxyhart0> why could be the cause for this error?
[01:32] <twb> libnss_ldap definitely SHOULD NOT be binding as the privileged binddn.
[01:32] <twb> It probably doesn't need more than an anonymous  bind.
[01:33] <Roxyhart0> ok, i will chage that
[01:33] <Roxyhart0> and will try ...thanks
[01:36] <ZimCS> ok, that was excessive.  Is backupPC a good solution for backing up PC's on a home server.  Would anyone recommend anything different?
[01:38] <Roxyhart0> bakula?
[01:39] <twb> I've used rsnapshot for backups to an offsite unix host.  I don't LIKE it, but it's less effort than amanda.
[01:40] <Roxyhart0> twb i chage the user but still the same error
[01:40] <pting> i'm trying to setup rssh to chroot certain sftp and scp users... i noticed in the release notes for 9.10 that upstart will prevent this from working. the workaround was to point /bin/true to /sbin/initctl... what exactly will happen when i make this change?
[01:40] <qman__> ZimCS, I have not used it before, but the information on the site is interesting
[01:40] <twb> I avoid backups to tape/dvd, because they require users to be awake, and that's not going to happen reliably.
[01:41] <twb> pting: why wouldn't you just use OpenSSH's built-in chroot functionality?
[01:42] <qman__> yeah, it's a built in option in recent releases, in ubuntu since 9.04 IIRC
[01:42] <pting> twb, that's a good question, i should have looked for that first. i didn't realize. thanks
[01:42] <twb> pting: it's relatively new -- not in 8.04, IIRC
[01:42] <pting> twb, thx, i'll give that a shot
[01:43] <qman__> yeah, it's not in 8.04
[01:43] <qman__> I used jailkit for my hardy setups
[01:54] <Roxyhart0> i solve it, i didt have installed nscd
[01:55] <Roxyhart0> but still i am getting this error: bdb_db_cache: db_open(mail) failed: Permission denied (13). is it acl error?
[01:55] <Roxyhart0> somebody know why is this error?
[02:47] <Roxyhart0> hi i am installing a pdc and i am gettin this error. I try to join PDC, do a getlocalsid, etc but i doesnt work. somebody know about a doc to configurate properlu a PDC (ubuntu guide doesn work)
[04:28] <Roxyhart0> hi somebody know how i can set a wins server?
[05:08] <twb> Roxyhart0: that's part of Samba
[05:08] <twb> Assuming you want the WINS server to be on Ubuntu
[05:09] <Roxyhart0> yes
[05:09] <Roxyhart0> tahnks
[05:10] <Roxyhart0> i just found it :)
[06:37] <Roxyhart0> hi when i do net getlocalsid i am getting this error. any idea? Can't fetch domain SID for name:rx
[06:58] <jumbers> Is there a way to kill a console session via SSH? My datacenter seems to have left my machine logged in as root, at the console, for the past 7 days
[07:08] <thebwt> jumbers: should be able to 'top' and find the 'bash' processes.
[07:09] <jumbers> thebwt: Thanks, but somebody mentioned "skill" to me and that worked
[07:10] <thebwt> jumbers: I just learned a new command :)
[07:11] <jumbers> thebwt: skill -KILL -v tty1 or pts/1, etc
[07:11] <thebwt> *nods*
[07:41] <Roxyhart0>  hi aim having this error messagw ehen i try to join my PDC to the domain NT user token: (NULL) UNIX token of user 0, Primary group is 0 and contains 0 supplementary groups
[07:41] <Roxyhart0> somebody have any idea?
[08:42] <twb> I'm building disk images using live-helper.
[08:42] <twb> Unfortunately, fbcon appears to be loaded by the userland during init: "Switching to colour framebuffer 80x30"
[08:43] <twb> This is a pain, because I have to boot X to test VMs that use VESA instead of the 80x25 text console.  Where's the problem code live, and how do I shut it off?
[08:43] <twb> (This is after switching from 8.04 to 10.04.)
[09:31] <ttx> soren: ping
[10:07] <maxagaz_> how to get the uid of someone from its id ?
[10:07] <maxagaz_> is there a command to do taht ?
[10:26] <ara> hello all
[10:26] <ara> I tried to install lucid latest ubuntu-server in KVM, and when it boots, after showing plymouth, it hangs with a cursor blinking in the upper left corner
[10:26] <ara> any ideas?
[10:34] <kaushal> hi
[10:34] <kaushal> i get this error mount.nfs: No such device inside the domU while trying to mount the nfs inside the VM
[10:35] <kaushal> "No such device" - NFS is not configured into the client's kernel.
[10:35] <kaushal> Any clue ?
[10:38] <sherringham> kausbal: do you need to install NFS support?
[10:39] <sherringham> */kaushal/kausbal/
[10:40] <kaushal> sherringham: i did not understand
[10:42] <kaushal> sherringham: i do not have kernel inside domU
[10:42] <sherringham> kaushal: nfs-common pckage? Try : sudo apt-get install nfs-common (in client)
[10:42] <kaushal> sherringham: did that already :)
[10:43] <sherringham> kaushal : "NFS is not configured into the client's kernel" - what kernel? uname -a
[10:43] <kaushal> 2.6.24-24-xen
[10:44] <sherringham> kaushal: OK, sorry. I don't have experience of Xen - maybe it has no NFS kernel support. Seems odd - but I don't know. Sorry.
[10:46] <MenZa> I'm attempting to setup openvpn on my server, and my primary problem is creating a bridge interface. When I add it, it doesn't show up in ifconfig after restarting networking. I've used this guide as my starting point: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[10:49] <twb> Since both Xen and NFS are implemented in the kernel, and Xen involves lying about the filesystem to DomUs, it wouldn't surprise me if NFS support was simply broken within Xen
[10:59] <MenZa> Err. Why is an interface not defined in /etc/network/interfaces showing up in ifconfig?
[10:59] <twb> MenZa: because it's configured?
[10:59] <MenZa> twb: How do I remove it?
[10:59] <twb> If you have accidentally installed NetworkManager, it will bugger up your networking
[11:00] <MenZa> Oh, no -- I'm trying to setup a bridged device
[11:00] <MenZa> Then networking went fubar, and I decided to remove it again
[11:00] <twb> "ifconfig eth0 down" should deconfigure an interface eth0
[11:00] <twb> bridges might be different
[11:02] <MenZa> Well, I still can't connect to the thing.
[11:02]  * MenZa growls.
[11:02] <MenZa> Although br0 is now gone from ifconfig
[11:02] <RoyK> ifconfig -a?
[11:02] <MenZa> Oh, still running.
[11:02] <twb> brctl is probably the way to drop bridges
[11:03] <MenZa> Right
[11:03] <MenZa> Success. I'm in.
[11:03] <MenZa> Thanks.
[11:03]  * MenZa phews.
[11:04]  * MenZa draws a line under the large "DON'T TOUCH THE NETWORKING" sign on his wall.
[11:05] <twb> You think that's funny
[11:06] <MenZa> All I can say is "thank you, Linode, for LISH"
[11:06] <twb> If you make a typo in /etc/hosts, suddenly sudo doesn't work
[11:06]  * RoyK rearranges MenZa's networking
[11:06] <MenZa> twb: indeed
[11:06] <MenZa> twb: I was quite nervous when I had to change the hostname of this box :)
[11:06] <RoyK> why?
[11:06] <MenZa> For the same reason that I'd typo something. I read it over three times before :w'ing
[11:06] <twb> Do not get me started on renaming LDAP slaves.
[11:06] <MenZa> hehehe
[11:30] <soren> ttx: What's up?
[11:32] <ttx> soren: will talk to you later... if you're available
[11:34] <soren> ttx: Sure.
[12:33] <vish> ttx: could you also close Bug 194472 sudo task as "wont fix" , desktop team wanted the server team to make the final call on that [seems no point in having an open bug ;)  ]
[12:39] <ttx> vish: done
[12:40] <vish> thanks :)
[12:45] <ttx> soren: wanted to have an updated status on the puppet/etckeeper thing
[12:45] <walle_> hi, does anyone know how i can obtain a list of security updates for a ubuntu system as an unprivileged user (ie. unable to run apt-get update)? the goal is to write a monitor script which can be used by remote a remote monitoring solution to alert if there is a unpatched system is detected.
[12:52] <soren> ttx: I'm working on the puppet merge today. I'll see if I can get the hooks sorted out today, otherwise it's at the top of my list for next week.
[12:53] <ttx> soren: ok, thanks for the update
[14:19] <ttx> kirkland: if you can send me your latest pxe/index.php, I could make use of it. I almost completed the local build testing infrastructure.
[14:20] <kirkland> ttx: let me put it in a bzr repo
[14:21] <ttx> kirkland: ok, let me know when done.
[14:21] <kirkland> ttx: organizing now
[14:21] <ttx> kirkland: I managed to have the installer use my local build eucalyptus-udeb, now I just need to convince it to use my additional local repository
[14:21] <Roxyhart0> somebody know how i can know groups and users in linux?
[14:22] <ttx> Roxyhart0: "getent passwd"and "getent group" ?
[14:23] <Roxyhart0> thanks
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: lp:~kirkland/+junk/uec-auto-install
[14:24] <ttx> kirkland: cool, thx
[14:24] <Spanglish_7776> anyone familiar with Samba?
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: feel free to propose merges, if you can make it more generic to work with your setup too
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: would be nice to work off of a common framework
[14:24] <ttx> yep
[14:24] <kirkland> ttx: and would help to give to a newbie to get up and running quickly
[14:25] <Spanglish_7776> I have configured a share but my xp box doesn't see it. and if I enter it manually it prompts me for authentication but doesn't accept
[14:25] <ttx> As soon as I maange to have it pull from my $**!&% local repo
[14:34] <erichammond> restarting mysql on cody
[14:34] <erichammond> oops, wrong tab
[14:40] <Pupeno> Any ideas how to run ufw enable in a non-interactive way?
[14:43] <pmatulis> Pupeno: once enabled it will stay enabled (persistent across reboots)
[14:44] <Kagarman> Hello
[14:44] <Pupeno> pmatulis: I know that.
[14:44] <pmatulis> Pupeno: ok, so rephrase then
[14:44] <jdstrand> Pupeno: I'm assuming you are referring to the ssh prompt. Lucid will support '--force enable' soon. Ubuntu 9.04 and later support preseeding via debconf
[14:44] <Kagarman>  	Как дела?
[14:44] <Kagarman> How are you?
[14:44] <Pupeno> pmatulis: how do you want me to rephrase it? I want to run ufw enable and get the firewall enabled without a prompt.
[14:45] <Pupeno> Well, thank god for yes... yes | ufw enable
[14:45] <Kagarman> Do you speak Russia?
[14:45] <Pici> !ru | Kagarman
[14:53] <Sorrel> hey, is there any difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[15:00] <smoser> lifeless, i see you on txaws, we're wanting to package that and i was wondering if there was already a package.
[15:00] <Pupeno> How do I make ufw forget about an allow/reject/deny of an app?
[15:01] <jdstrand> Pupeno: ufw delete <rule>
[15:01] <Pupeno> jdstrand: doesn't seem to work with apps.
[15:01] <Pupeno> This: ufw delete OpenSSH fails.
[15:02] <jdstrand> Pupeno: that is improper syntax. use:
[15:02] <jdstrand> ufw delete allow OpenSSH
[15:02] <Pupeno> oh, I see.
[15:02] <jdstrand> Pupeno: basically, prefix 'delete' before the rule that you used to add it (see 'man ufw' for details)
[15:06] <Sorrel> :/
[15:06] <ttx> smoser: o/
[15:06] <smoser> good morning ttx
[15:06] <ttx> smoser: question for you, how is AWS library packaging looking ?
[15:07] <smoser> i just opened 2 bugs for 'needs packaging' for right_aws (and dependency right_http_connection)
[15:07] <smoser> i have packages building, but no real idea how to test
[15:07] <smoser> just pinged lifeless above regarding txaws
[15:08] <Sorrel> when setting up a static i.p. to the outside world domain name server is = gateway right?
[15:08] <smoser> i've not looked at the other 2
[15:09] <Sorrel> ls
[15:09] <ttx> smoser: ok
[15:13] <sherringham> Sorrel: not necessarily - but the function is often built into routers/modems (DSL/cable etc.)
[15:14] <Sorrel> that's sherringham
[15:14] <Sorrel> thanks sherringham
[15:14] <sherringham> Sorrel: re: apt-get - aptitude/apt-get do the same thing pretty much, except aptitude also has a curses interface and is thought to have slightly more sophisticated deps checking/resolving
[15:15] <Sorrel> sherringham:  so there's not really a reason to use aptitude over apt-get
[15:16] <sherringham> Sorrel: as I say, aptitude might be preferred sometimes for resolving deps. But I use both interchangeably.
[15:17] <TeTeT> soren: is there a vmbuilder backport for Hardy somewhere, so you can build karmic images on hardy?
[15:18] <Sorrel> sherringham:  I understand now, Thanks :)
[15:22] <soren> TeTeT: I'm not sure, to be honest.
[15:25] <Fawzib> question: i have a linux server connected to my dsl modem (modem is dhcp server). in my linux server I have a router card. i want to be able to connect comps to the router card and redirect traffic to go out of the server main lan card which is connected to the dsl modem. how would i accomplish that?
[15:27] <Sorrel> edit the /etc/network/interfaces
[15:27] <Sorrel> file
[15:28] <Sorrel> the nic that you want to use to go out to the world ( DSL ) should have a static I.P.
[15:28] <Sorrel> and the internal one should have a static I.P. but have a broadcast range
[15:28] <Spanglish_7776> i believe you'll have to also do packet forwarding (MASQ&NAT) ipchains.
[15:29] <Spanglish_7776> and may want to utilize dhcp (broadcast range)
[15:29] <Fawzib> ugh, has to be static? isnt there a way to everything comming from router card broadcast it?
[15:29] <Sorrel> !pastebucket
[15:30] <Sorrel> what is the link to pastebucket?
[15:30] <Pici> !paste
[15:30] <Sorrel> something like this
[15:31] <Sorrel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/374798/
[15:31] <Sorrel> don't use those address
[15:31] <Sorrel> ( anybody want to break into my network now )
[15:32] <Spanglish_7776> Fawzib I'd suggest IPCop or pfsense, very good open source linux based router software, I use pfsense
[15:32] <Spanglish_7776> very good.
[15:33] <TeTeT> soren: ok
[15:36] <mathiaz_> smoser: hi!
[15:36] <mathiaz_> smoser: bug 520766
[15:36] <ttx> mathiaz_: What's the status on server-lucid-puppet-uec-ec2-integration ? Still planning to complete it for alpha3 ? Am I right in assuming this is not affected by FF ?
[15:36] <mathiaz_> smoser: what is it invalid?
[15:36] <mathiaz_> ttx: still planning to work on this
[15:36] <mathiaz_> ttx: some of the item are impacted by FF
[15:36] <smoser> because you tried to register a on-existant file
[15:37] <smoser> ec2-bundle-image I_DO_NOT_EXIST
[15:37] <smoser> s/on-existant/non-existant/
[15:37] <Fawzib> pfsense is a full distribution, already have xbmc-live running on the server, just added a router card to connect my PS3 to it
[15:37] <mathiaz_> ttx: mainly adding the puppet job to cloud-init
[15:37] <mathiaz_> ttx: now that I have access to a UEC cloud I can work on this
[15:40] <ttx> mathiaz_: ok
[15:42] <Xpistos|work> Excuse me, where is the Trash directory in the Karmic?
[15:43] <mathiaz> smoser: I'm not sure I understand what you mean
[15:43] <mathiaz> smoser: using the same sequence of commands with 20100209 it works correclty
[15:43] <smoser> try this, and you'll get the same error that you got in the bug report:
[15:43] <genii> Xpistos|work: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[15:43] <Xpistos|work> thanks
[15:44] <mathiaz> smoser: ah gotcha
[15:44] <smoser> euca-bundle-image -i THE_EYES_OF_TEXAS_ARE_UPON_YOU -r x86_64 --ramdisk true
[15:44] <smoser> :)
[15:44] <smoser> ok.
[15:45] <smoser> it might be reasonable to open a bug against euca2ools to have a better error message than "invalid image"
[15:45] <Xpistos|work> genii: That is in server?
[15:45] <smoser> ie, "file does not exist"
[15:49] <genii> Xpistos|work: It gets created if you are going a terminal server. A regular "Trash" doesn't exist otherwise though (as far as i know, since rm'd files don't go into some temp place)
[15:49] <Elad> if I am getting the following errors, how do I fix them? (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[15:49] <Elad> (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address 0.0.0.0:80
[15:49] <Elad> no listening sockets available, shutting down
[15:49] <Elad> Unable to open logs
[15:49] <Elad>    ...fail!
[15:50] <Sorrel> running as root?
[15:51] <sherringham> Elad: Apache? sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[15:51] <Xpistos|work> genii: Thanks! I am trying desperately to recover lost files, but it is looking bad, I wanted to see if I could check in the trash.
[15:51] <Elad> sherringham: the error was produced while doing /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[15:51] <Elad> I am afraid that a restart will take it down and not come back up
[15:52] <Elad> or is that a common error when performing a reload?
[15:52] <sherringham> Elad: Don't think I ever reload. What command failed? As what user?
[15:53] <Elad> sherringham: haha, I wasn't sudoing it
[15:53] <Elad> works now, thanks for the obvious
[16:12] <Elad> another question I have, if I have a cert for https://www.mysite.com, users that hit https://mysite.com are getting a security exception - how do I tell apache to redirect all non www requests for that domain to auto-redirect to the www domain?
[16:15] <RoyK> Elad: lots of ways - I usually use a php header() call with a 302
[16:18] <Elad> I am trying the header('location: https://www.mysite.com') and it still serves up the error
[16:19] <Elad> RoyK: looks like I have die( header('location: https://www.mysite.com')) - I wonder if the die is returning a different header code
[16:19] <Elad> let me remove that and see what happens
[16:19] <TeTeT> soren: when vmbuilder asks for 'Password for root on localhost?' - does it actually expect me to have a root password set on my system?
[16:20] <soren> TeTeT: "asks for"? It should be completely non-interactive.
[16:21] <TeTeT> soren: yeah, that's what's surprising me, I started it like: sudo vmbuilder xen ubuntu --addpkg=openoffice.org --addpkg=cups-pdf --suite karmic
[16:22] <soren> TeTeT: It must be something cups-pdf is asking.
[16:22] <soren> TeTeT: Could you try leaving that out and re-run?
[16:24] <TeTeT> soren: will do, I report back
[16:33] <soren> TeTeT: ta
[16:36] <mathiaz> smoser: tried to use uec-publish-tarball:http://paste.ubuntu.com/374828/
[16:38] <smoser> mathiaz, environment is set up ?
[16:39] <mathiaz> smoser: mouaahahahahah - no :/
[16:39] <smoser> :)
[16:40] <mathiaz> smoser: \o/ - works! thanks for the help
[16:41] <smoser> mathiaz, fyi, with euca2ools, you can now take that eucarc that it gives you and put that in ~/.eucarc
[16:41] <smoser> no more need to export sensitive info in the environment
[16:48] <jpds> Ah, missed ivoks by a few minutes.
[16:51] <BeardedChimp> Is there a central place that I can use to empty log files on reboot so that they dont keep getting larger and larger? I have a few udev scripts that put things into /var/log. I could use /tmp but that seems to miss the point of /var/log
[16:53] <sherringham> BeardedChimp: use logrotate to manage log files
[16:57] <BeardedChimp> sherringham: This is perfect, thank you
[17:00] <soren> zul: Mind if I assign the etckeeper MIR writing work item to you?
[17:00] <Bookman> I cannot seem to get a printer working over the internet.  Any ideas why?  Both systems are running Ubuntu 9.10
[17:01] <crazygir> hiya!
[17:02] <crazygir> question, where is the "proper" place (in ubuntu) for vhosts (as a DocumentRoot) ?
[17:02] <thebwt> crazygir: I use ~/www/<site name>/public_html
[17:03] <thebwt> so that I have write access
[17:03] <crazygir> they're not associated with any user in particular
[17:03] <crazygir> they're just served off of the server :)
[17:03] <thebwt> you could do /var/www/<site name> then
[17:03] <crazygir> fantastic
[17:03] <mathiaz> crazygir: the FHS recomends to put stuff in /srv
[17:04] <thebwt> oh, my bad
[17:04] <ezra-s> crazygir, that's really up to you, some use /var/www some use /home/www, some use /web
[17:04] <crazygir> huh??
[17:04] <crazygir>  /srv?
[17:04] <ezra-s> apache is that flexible
[17:04] <thebwt> /srv/wwww, no /var/www
[17:04] <crazygir> I know apache is flexible, but it's more about ubuntu convention that I'm asking about
[17:04] <thebwt>  /srv is the "standard"
[17:04] <ezra-s> just tell apache which config file to run with the appropiate settings and voilá
[17:04] <mathiaz> crazygir: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM
[17:04] <Bookman> I have my router forwarding port 631
[17:04] <ezra-s> oh.. I see
[17:04] <mathiaz> crazygir: there isn't any convention in ubuntu
[17:05] <ezra-s> I'd say /var/www then
[17:05] <crazygir> mathiaz: putting stuff in /srv isn't a convention?
[17:05] <mathiaz> crazygir: as ubuntu follows the FHS
[17:05] <crazygir> ok
[17:06] <crazygir> thanks!
[17:12] <Bookman> I followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu but I still cannot get it to print.
[17:12] <Lam3r_co> hello
[17:13] <sherringham> Bookman: did you check for errors in any log files?
[17:13] <Lam3r_co> is problem with vsftpd enough server related?
[17:14] <TeTeT> soren: it worked without cups-pdf, any chance to automate it with cups-pdf installed/
[17:14] <sherringham> Lam3r_co: probably (running on ubuntu server)
[17:15] <Lam3r_co> then, please how is it possible, that I can login on my ftpd and the other user cannot (bad login)
[17:16] <Lam3r_co> I tried changing password, but still the same
[17:16] <thebwt> sounds like the users aren't allow, permissions
[17:16] <thebwt> allowed*
[17:16] <Lam3r_co> how can I check it?
[17:17] <thebwt> not positive.
[17:17] <Lam3r_co> the other user has shell /bin/false, can it be it?
[17:17] <thebwt> does ftp use shell settings?
[17:17] <Lam3r_co> I have no idea
[17:18] <da65> if anyone gets files holded back when running apt-get upgrade all you need to do is run apt-get autoclean worked for me
[17:18] <thebwt> to be honest, I always use sftp. It sets up so much easier. So setting up standard ftp is unkown to me.
[17:19] <Lam3r_co> the peeps I'm making this for don't know how to use sftp
[17:20] <da65> if your accessing your Ubuntu server from a windows machine you will have a job to get better than WinSCP
[17:20] <thebwt> Lam3r_co: what ftp client are they using?
[17:20] <Lam3r_co> thebwt: total commander or filezilla
[17:21] <Lam3r_co> thebwt: I use psftp
[17:21] <Bookman> sherringham, which log file on which machine?
[17:21] <da65> http://winscp.net/eng/index.php if in Windows, it's great, free to
[17:21] <thebwt> all those support sftp, try connecting (it is this exact same as connecting with ftp)
[17:22] <thebwt> just set it to sftp
[17:22] <da65> wish they would do a unix version though
[17:22] <Lam3r_co> okay, so I just remove VSFTPD and install sftpd?
[17:22] <thebwt> sftp is with ssh
[17:23] <thebwt> do you access your server with ssh?
[17:23] <da65> to be safe yes :)
[17:23] <thebwt> k
[17:23] <thebwt> then it's already set up
[17:23] <Lam3r_co> ooh, so I'm ready with openssh?
[17:23] <da65> only way you will get root on ftp is sftp anyway
[17:23] <thebwt> Lam3r_co: yup
[17:24] <Lam3r_co> great, thanks guys :)
[17:24] <thebwt> Lam3r_co: give it a try and see if it does everything you need
[17:24] <da65> I love root
[17:24] <thebwt> I love well done permissions
[17:28] <sherringham> Bookman: no idea, I don;t use printing. Cups? Check /ar/log/syslog, others perhaps. On server probably.
[17:29] <Bookman> Is there a way to monitor which ports have connections/attempted connections on the server?
[17:29] <sherringham> Bookman: debug cups described here (incl. log file) :
[17:29] <sherringham> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/cups.html
[17:30] <sherringham> Google search : debug internet printing +cups +ubuntu
[17:33] <Sorrel> sudo make
[17:33] <Sorrel> :/
[17:33] <Sorrel> sry
[17:35] <Bookman> maybe this is the error:
[17:35] <Bookman> Request from "64.229.175.221" using invalid Host: field "clarkhomeftp.dlinkddns.com"
[17:35] <Bookman> This is an error in the cups error log.  It looks like the client is contacting the server. but something is going wrong
[17:39] <jiboumans> kirkland: remember the AA ppa review please
[17:39] <jiboumans> thanks
[17:42] <sherringham> Bookman: http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&hs=EXK&q=%22using+invalid+Host%3A+field%22+%2Bcups&btnG=Search&meta=&aq=f&oq=
[17:42] <sherringham> *oops - sorry -search : "using invalid Host: field" +cups
[17:47] <Bookman> sherringham, got it and many thanks.
[17:48] <sherringham> Bookman: no problem. Helping you help yourself :-)
[17:49] <Bookman> gotta sharpen my google skills
[17:49] <smoser> mathiaz, kirkland , i'm in need of sponsor for for right_aws work:
[17:49] <smoser> libright-aws-ruby (LP: #521002)
[17:49] <smoser> libright-http-connection-ruby (LP: #521006)
[17:49] <smoser> libuuidtools-ruby (LP: #521077)
[17:50] <mathiaz> smoser: cool - I'll have a look at it
[17:51] <smoser> ppa builds are on their way to https://launchpad.net/~smoser/+archive/ppa/+packages
[18:04] <Eriroley|work> I'm running into some problems when trying to get my system to auth to a windows AD system via krb5.
[18:04] <Eriroley|work> Auth works "as expected" but the windows security log is spammed with pre-authentication failures. Anybody have any hints, or suggestions to point me in the right way
[18:05] <Eriroley|work> The google seems to have a lot of people that are having the same problem, but no solutions that I can find.
[18:16] <smoser> mathiaz, for txaws, there is no upstream source releases, so what should i use for orig tarball/how do i handle that?
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: ask upstream to make an upstream tarball release
[18:17] <smoser> :)
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: if upstream is using a setup.py you can use setup.py sdist to create the tarball
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: in the get-orig-source
[18:17] <mathiaz> smoser: and fix setup.py to properly work with sdist (ie everything is packaged as expected)
[18:17] <smoser> upstream has a setup.py, but there isn't a released version
[18:19] <mathiaz> smoser: ok - then use the an upstream version number based on the bzr revno you're packaging from
[18:19] <mathiaz> smoser: like: 0.1~bzr1234
[18:19] <smoser> ok
[18:21] <smoser> mathiaz, so then i end up creating the .orig.tar.gz, right? thats what you're implying.
[18:22] <mathiaz> smoser: yeah - it would be a native package
[18:22] <mathiaz> smoser: since upstream doesn't have a released tarball
[18:23] <mathiaz> smoser: I'd actually as in #ubuntu-motu
[18:23] <mathiaz> smoser: there may be other options to handle the use case where an upstream doesn't have a released tarball
[18:23] <smoser> k
[18:30] <ribo> anyone use user-mode linux in karmic?
[18:38] <nijaba> hello led-zep
[18:38] <nijaba> nice to see you here
[18:38] <led-zep> hi nick !
[18:38] <led-zep> nice to be here :-)
[18:38] <nijaba> led-zep: so this is where all the cool server people hang-out :)
[18:39] <led-zep> ok a place to be for me for sure ;)
[19:07] <soren> smoser: I usually just create a tarball of the content of upstream's VCS and use that as my orig.tar.gz.
[19:07] <soren> smoser: ...so not as a native package, but with a home-grown upstream tarball.
[19:07] <smoser> they released one
[19:08]  * soren has done this quite a bit
[19:08] <soren> Oh, great.
[19:08]  * soren did that with network-manager-{openvpn,vpnc,pptp}, eucalytpus, libcloud, opennebula, libgfshare..
[19:08] <soren> Come to think of it, I think most of my packages started out that way :)
[19:09]  * soren wanders off again
[19:15] <smoser> have a nice friday night soren
[19:19] <smoser> mathiaz, also seeking review of lp:~smoser/+junk/python-txaws (bug 521121) now.
[19:56] <lifeless> smoser: I don't think anyone has packaged txaws, I may be wrong. Two groups to check with: U1, and landscape.
[19:56] <smoser> lifeless, thanks. its on its way.
[19:59] <koolhead17> kees:
[20:13] <crazygir> for setting up postfix.. if all I want to do is send out emails via php applications.. should I use "internet site"
[20:13] <crazygir> in the configuration utility
[20:19] <Italian_Plumber> hello.  With grub, to choose the saveddefault item as the default item, is the line "default saveddefault", or just "saveddefault"?
[20:20] <Italian_Plumber> or "default saved"
[20:22] <zul> soren: mem
[20:22] <zul> soren: meh even
[20:28] <Xpistos|work> If I have a NFS share and I delete something off it can i still recover it on my server if I don't have a backup somewhere?
[20:35] <momelod> greetings channel
[20:36] <momelod> does anyone know why make-kpkg would fail on a xen patched kernel source?
[20:49] <sherringham> Xpistos|work: I don't think so (unless you get down and dirty with the filesystem)
[20:49] <Xpistos|work> sherringham: Thanks. I was able to rcover some things, but not everything and the pcitures is what I am most concerned about.
[20:49] <sherringham> crazygir: satellite system might be best - smarthost. The postfix site (postfix.org) has very good docs.
[20:53] <DrNick_> i'm sure there must be some 'un-delete' tools available for linux filesystems
[20:54] <DrNick_> when one deletes a file on ext3/reiser, i'd imagine only the entry in the inode table is cleared
[21:02] <sherringham> Yes, a google search finds some info - worth a shot, if you really need to.
[21:26] <smoser> mathiaz, are you able to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/euca2ools/+bug/520707 on a UEC ?
[21:26] <mathiaz> smoser: I can give it a try
[21:28] <DrNick_> all i read to begin with was 'are you able to reproduce....'
[21:39] <mathiaz> smoser: well - I can't reproduce it on an UEC setup
[21:39] <mathiaz> smoser: I don't have any snapshots created though
[21:39] <smoser> hm... funny.
[21:40] <smoser> i can't reproduce it on ec2 where there *were* snapshots
[21:40] <smoser> :)
[21:40] <smoser> so i figured it was a bug when there were none.
[21:40] <mathiaz> smoser: how do you create a snapshot?
[21:40] <smoser> can you comment to that effect in that bug ?
[21:40] <smoser> you probalby have to create a volume first
[21:40] <smoser> euca-create-volume
[21:41] <smoser> $ euca-create-volume --zone us-east-1a --size 1 sm1234
[21:42] <mathiaz> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/375007/
[21:42] <mathiaz> smoser: wait - it worked
[21:43] <mathiaz> smoser: with a size of 1
[21:43] <mathiaz> smoser: ah size is in Gb
[21:44] <mathiaz> smoser: I can reproduce the bug
[21:44] <mathiaz> smoser: when I've defined a snapshot
[21:44] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/375009/
[21:45] <smoser> oh. wow. cause i just did that pastebin, ie, create volume, create snapshot, describe snapshot, delete snapshot, delete volume
[21:45] <smoser> all worked on ec2
[21:47] <mathiaz> smoser: right - my guess is that eucalyptus return the wrong value
[21:47] <mathiaz> smoser: the error message is: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'n/a'
[21:47] <mathiaz> smoser: 'n/a' seems like something is missing from the answer
[21:48] <smoser> yeah, i think this is a euca bug
[21:48] <smoser> oh wait, yeah, i guess not necissarily
[21:50] <smoser> mathiaz, i suspect its going wrong at boto/ec2/snapshot.py:54
[21:50] <smoser> def endElement:
[21:50] <smoser>         elif name == 'volumeSize':
[21:50] <smoser>             self.volume_size = int(value)
[21:53] <mathiaz> smoser: is the answer xml?
[21:53] <smoser> answer?
[21:53] <mathiaz> smoser: the answer from ec2/UEC
[21:53] <smoser> probably
[21:55] <mathiaz> smoser: then we should compare the answer from EC2 versus the one from UEC
[21:55] <mathiaz> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/375014/
[21:55] <mathiaz> smoser: ^^ that's error we see
[21:56] <mathiaz> smoser: IMO the answer from UEC doesn't include an integer
[21:56] <smoser> yeah, i think so
[21:56] <smoser> the argument we'll get there is that that is a new api that amazon implemented that isn't in euca yet
[21:59] <smoser> mathiaz, confirmed that volumeSize was added to boto between 1.8 and 1.9
[22:00] <smoser> along with 'ownerid' and 'description'
[22:02] <smoser> mathiaz, i have to run. i posted my suspicion to bug. might have to work arond this in boto.
[22:02] <mathiaz> smoser: ok
[22:02] <smoser> can you try just changing that 'int()' and see where you get ?
[22:03] <smoser> anywy, i'm out now.
[22:03] <smoser> later.
[22:09] <pting> i'm creating a 1 TB ebs to store a lot of large files probably 500mb+ a file.. i'm thinking of going with XFS... what's blocksize do you guys recommend?
[22:09] <pting> probably like 32k?
[22:19] <rightsprocket> Hello everyone
[22:19] <rightsprocket> I am trying to use an <FilesMatch> directive in apache2 but it is not working.  As if the module is not loaded.
[22:20] <rightsprocket> Does anyone know what module I should be loading to get this to work?
[22:25] <sherringham> rightsprocket: FilesMatch is "core" : http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#filesmatch
[22:27] <rightsprocket> sherringham Thanks. I think i figured it out.  Missing an allowoverride in 000-default
[22:38] <rightsprocket> sherringham Do you know why apache would ignore a filesmatch directive?
[22:39] <rightsprocket> I am trying to figure out where to put alllowoverrides all and am having no luck.
[22:42] <sherringham> Hard to say - you sometimes have to play - but keep things simple. For instance, I am using FilesMatch to deny access to various Adobe Contribute files on a server :
[22:43] <sherringham> <FilesMatch "\.(lck|mno|bak|lbi|csi|dwt)$">
[22:43] <sherringham> Order deny,allow
[22:43] <sherringham> Deny from all
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[22:48] <rightsprocket> sherringham It is as if apache is ignoring it
[22:48] <rightsprocket> I cannot seem to get apche to allow a filesmatch in my .htaccess
[22:56] <sherringham> What's your match?
[23:55] <mconigliaro> can anyone tell me how to change the hostname on an amazon ec2 instance? and/or tell me why i shouldn't do this?
[23:56] <mconigliaro> anything you do on the command seems to get overridden by what amazon provides through the dhcp client