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tonyyarussoTakyoji_: That's correct.  The thinking is that a new user could accidentally hit it, opening a terminal, and terminals are scary.00:50
_diablomr_steve, hey, what's up?03:11
mr_steve_diablo, hey03:12
mr_stevejust got home from school03:12
_diabloouch. I got back around an hour ago03:13
mr_steveso _diablo, I probably won't be able to an ubuntu hour tomorrow, but I'm planning on next friday03:27
_diablosounds good by me :)03:29
mr_steveI should be meeting with a couple buddies about some web site they want me to work on, so I'll scout another coffeeshop near the same area while I'm at it03:30
mr_steveand then once I have a location picked out, I'll be putting it on the website, as an every-other week thing I think03:31
mr_stevetonyyarusso, ^03:31
mr_steveI just don't want to add it until the location is determined03:31
_diabloyeah, I agree03:49
tonyyarusso'k03:55
mr_steveThat said, I gotta go to bed in a most serious way. Class at 09:00.04:05
_diablonn04:05
Takyoji_While I usually have to be at school at 8:10 am :P04:10
Takyoji_But luckily I don't have school tomorrow04:10
Takyoji_Didn't Skype release a library for the Skype protocol, so that a person could build a GUI on top of it?05:26
Takyoji_or integrate it05:26
Takyoji_That would actually be pretty nice if it was integrated into Pidgin or Empathy..05:27
tonyyarussoNo, they released the GUI.05:27
_diablotonyyarusso, but when you look at it, you can see how to integrate with the gui05:28
Takyoji_WOO http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/02/12/0158223/Facebook-Now-Supports-JabberXMPP05:28
Takyoji_And the villagers cheered in sheer joy!05:28
_diabloe.g. you can use skype chat in pidgin, but you have to have the program open as well05:28
* Takyoji_ leaps with joy05:29
tonyyarussoBottom line:  Skype is still a proprietary protocol, so screw it.05:29
tonyyarusso(Not to mention the CIA appeasement and whatnot)05:29
tonyyarussoTakyoji_: Yes, WOO to that.  Although it's not federated, so muted woo.05:29
Takyoji_Meaning that isn't able to be used between servers, or?05:30
tonyyarussoMeaning that you can't use a GTalk account to chat with a Facebook user.05:30
_diablocorrect05:31
Takyoji_Ahh05:35
Takyoji_Yay, Empathy fails to authorize05:43
Takyoji_Whether it be their server's implementation, or just the usual abnormal nature of Empathy05:44
Takyoji_and it's fun to think that authentication is handled using MD505:56
Takyoji_and no TLS/SSL support05:56
_diablough05:58
Takyoji_If I was a cryptologist, I'd just use ROT13 as encryption! :D06:00
Takyoji_[not]06:00
Takyoji_It'd be FLAWLESS06:00
Takyoji_:P06:01
Takyoji_How much processing overhead does TLS usually cause though?06:01
Takyoji_For like lets say 512-bit06:01
Takyoji_AES perhaps06:01
Takyoji_Oh stupid me, I was accidentally trying to create an account on the Facebook XMPP server06:03
Takyoji_Ooo fun, apparently work on mt-daapd ended like 2 years ago06:53
tonyyarussoWait, really?06:54
tonyyarussooh, I think I remember what replaced it - tangerine.06:55
Takyoji_Firefly is the new name for mt-daapd06:57
tonyyarussohttps://edge.launchpad.net/tangerine/ - last release was in August.06:57
tonyyarussoTakyoji_: yeah, but Firefly hasn't been touched since 2008.06:57
Takyoji_ahh06:57
Takyoji_I just love the style of the GNOME iconset, or anything matching it's aesthetics norm06:59
h00kAre you guys doing anything planned yet for the Global Jam?16:31
tonyyarussoNo?16:32
* tonyyarusso doesn't even know when that is16:32
tonyyarussoI wonder what we would have the skills for.16:32
h00ktonyyarusso: I'll forward an email I got to the mailing list, if that's alright16:38
tonyyarussoh00k: sure.  Basically, "don't piss people off" is the rule of mailing lists :P16:39
TakyojiI wonder if OpenOffice 3.2 will be available in Lucid Lynx18:26
_diabloTakyoji, I hope so!18:28
Takyojibecause I just have this feeling like it won't be available due some version freeze months ago or something18:28
TakyojiI just wish there was a simple method of installing a newer version of an application, rather than the main one associated with the distribution version.18:29
_diabloit's not hard.... I just did it in 10 minutes about a day ago18:30
TakyojiI know I've done it before; it just feels disorderly of installing from a PPA that doesn't even sign the packages18:31
Takyojiapparently as the new homepage screen for Firefox in the Lucid release: http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/18:32
_diabloand that's one of the many reasons why I won't be running Ubuntu on any of my machines after 9.10 fades18:33
tonyyarusso!info openoffice.org lucid19:05
ubot3openoffice.org: full-featured office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 5 kB, installed size 52 kB (Only available for armel i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 amd64 ia64 lpia ppc64 s390x sparc all arm)19:05
tonyyarussooh yeah, ubot3 doesn't have lucid yet for some reason19:06
tonyyarussoTakyoji, _diablo: openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): full-featured office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 44  kB (Only available for armel i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 amd64 ia64 ppc64 s390x sparc hppa all arm)19:07
mr_steveyay fridays19:07
tonyyarussoTakyoji: And all PPAs have package signing now.19:07
tonyyarusso_diablo: psssh, who actually uses the home page anyway?19:08
Takyojidone by Launchpad?19:08
tonyyarussoTakyoji: yup.19:09
tonyyarussoI believe the keys are per-PPA though.19:09
mr_steveYep. per-PPA19:09
_diablotonyyarusso, sigh. that's not the point I'm making and we all know it :)19:24
_diablothis argument has been hashed out in better places that here by better people than us.  We can agree to disagree ;)19:24
_diablobrb19:27
TakyojiWhen does Yahoo officially become Bing in some form?19:32
TakyojiGoogle Chrome seems to be under heavy fire of exploitation discovery it seems21:01
TakyojiPretty much every time I check Secunia there's a slew of new vulnerabilities found21:02

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