=== rlaager1 is now known as rlaager === rlaager1 is now known as rlaager === rlaager1 is now known as rlaager === rlaager1 is now known as rlaager === rlaager1 is now known as rlaager [00:50] Takyoji_: That's correct. The thinking is that a new user could accidentally hit it, opening a terminal, and terminals are scary. [03:11] <_diablo> mr_steve, hey, what's up? [03:12] _diablo, hey [03:12] just got home from school [03:13] <_diablo> ouch. I got back around an hour ago [03:27] so _diablo, I probably won't be able to an ubuntu hour tomorrow, but I'm planning on next friday [03:29] <_diablo> sounds good by me :) [03:30] I should be meeting with a couple buddies about some web site they want me to work on, so I'll scout another coffeeshop near the same area while I'm at it [03:31] and then once I have a location picked out, I'll be putting it on the website, as an every-other week thing I think [03:31] tonyyarusso, ^ [03:31] I just don't want to add it until the location is determined [03:49] <_diablo> yeah, I agree [03:55] 'k [04:05] That said, I gotta go to bed in a most serious way. Class at 09:00. [04:05] <_diablo> nn [04:10] While I usually have to be at school at 8:10 am :P [04:10] But luckily I don't have school tomorrow [05:26] Didn't Skype release a library for the Skype protocol, so that a person could build a GUI on top of it? [05:26] or integrate it [05:27] That would actually be pretty nice if it was integrated into Pidgin or Empathy.. [05:27] No, they released the GUI. [05:28] <_diablo> tonyyarusso, but when you look at it, you can see how to integrate with the gui [05:28] WOO http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/02/12/0158223/Facebook-Now-Supports-JabberXMPP [05:28] And the villagers cheered in sheer joy! [05:28] <_diablo> e.g. you can use skype chat in pidgin, but you have to have the program open as well [05:29] * Takyoji_ leaps with joy [05:29] Bottom line: Skype is still a proprietary protocol, so screw it. [05:29] (Not to mention the CIA appeasement and whatnot) [05:29] Takyoji_: Yes, WOO to that. Although it's not federated, so muted woo. [05:30] Meaning that isn't able to be used between servers, or? [05:30] Meaning that you can't use a GTalk account to chat with a Facebook user. [05:31] <_diablo> correct [05:35] Ahh [05:43] Yay, Empathy fails to authorize [05:44] Whether it be their server's implementation, or just the usual abnormal nature of Empathy [05:56] and it's fun to think that authentication is handled using MD5 [05:56] and no TLS/SSL support [05:58] <_diablo> ugh [06:00] If I was a cryptologist, I'd just use ROT13 as encryption! :D [06:00] [not] [06:00] It'd be FLAWLESS [06:01] :P [06:01] How much processing overhead does TLS usually cause though? [06:01] For like lets say 512-bit [06:01] AES perhaps [06:03] Oh stupid me, I was accidentally trying to create an account on the Facebook XMPP server [06:53] Ooo fun, apparently work on mt-daapd ended like 2 years ago [06:54] Wait, really? [06:55] oh, I think I remember what replaced it - tangerine. [06:57] Firefly is the new name for mt-daapd [06:57] https://edge.launchpad.net/tangerine/ - last release was in August. [06:57] Takyoji_: yeah, but Firefly hasn't been touched since 2008. [06:57] ahh [06:59] I just love the style of the GNOME iconset, or anything matching it's aesthetics norm [16:31] Are you guys doing anything planned yet for the Global Jam? [16:32] No? [16:32] * tonyyarusso doesn't even know when that is [16:32] I wonder what we would have the skills for. [16:38] tonyyarusso: I'll forward an email I got to the mailing list, if that's alright [16:39] h00k: sure. Basically, "don't piss people off" is the rule of mailing lists :P [18:26] I wonder if OpenOffice 3.2 will be available in Lucid Lynx [18:28] <_diablo> Takyoji, I hope so! [18:28] because I just have this feeling like it won't be available due some version freeze months ago or something [18:29] I just wish there was a simple method of installing a newer version of an application, rather than the main one associated with the distribution version. [18:30] <_diablo> it's not hard.... I just did it in 10 minutes about a day ago [18:31] I know I've done it before; it just feels disorderly of installing from a PPA that doesn't even sign the packages [18:32] apparently as the new homepage screen for Firefox in the Lucid release: http://start.ubuntu.com/10.04/ [18:33] <_diablo> and that's one of the many reasons why I won't be running Ubuntu on any of my machines after 9.10 fades [19:05] !info openoffice.org lucid [19:05] openoffice.org: full-featured office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.1.1-5ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 5 kB, installed size 52 kB (Only available for armel i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 amd64 ia64 lpia ppc64 s390x sparc all arm) [19:06] oh yeah, ubot3 doesn't have lucid yet for some reason [19:07] Takyoji, _diablo: openoffice.org (source: openoffice.org): full-featured office productivity suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.2.0~rc4-1ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 4 kB, installed size 44 kB (Only available for armel i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc s390 amd64 ia64 ppc64 s390x sparc hppa all arm) [19:07] yay fridays [19:07] Takyoji: And all PPAs have package signing now. [19:08] _diablo: psssh, who actually uses the home page anyway? [19:08] done by Launchpad? [19:09] Takyoji: yup. [19:09] I believe the keys are per-PPA though. [19:09] Yep. per-PPA [19:24] <_diablo> tonyyarusso, sigh. that's not the point I'm making and we all know it :) [19:24] <_diablo> this argument has been hashed out in better places that here by better people than us. We can agree to disagree ;) [19:27] <_diablo> brb [19:32] When does Yahoo officially become Bing in some form? [21:01] Google Chrome seems to be under heavy fire of exploitation discovery it seems [21:02] Pretty much every time I check Secunia there's a slew of new vulnerabilities found