[00:00] <rye> Bookman, could you please paste the output of 'ps ux' to paste.ubuntu.com?
[00:02] <Bookman> http://pastebin.ca/1794095
[00:03] <rye> :(
[00:03] <rye> could you please post ps uxw ?
[00:03] <rye> the w is for wide format - since the most interesting bits got trimmed
[00:04] <Bookman> http://pastebin.ca/1794097
[00:05] <rye> hm, is there anything in ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/oauth-login.log ?
[00:06] <Bookman> No such file
[00:06] <Bookman> oops
[00:08] <rye> ah
[00:09] <Bookman> Wow, I'm getting tired here....
[00:09] <rye> i keep forgetting that this is beta version. Ok, is it possible to transfer syncdaemon.log to the local machine and paste it to paste.ubuntu.com?
[00:10] <Bookman> I don't understand....why did you not just copy what your competitor was doing?  It works wonderful!
[00:10] <Bookman> Just me.
[00:11] <Bookman> You are re-inventing the wheel here
[00:11] <rye> This script checks whether your account is authorised: http://paste.ubuntu.com/374306/
[00:11] <Bookman> Ok, I'm confused now.
[00:11] <Bookman> Are you saying i'm not authorized?
[00:12] <Bookman> IT shows I'm connected?
[00:12] <rye> Bookman, are you talking about the competitor as the filesync service that creates a D*****x folder in home ?
[00:12] <Bookman> You got it.
[00:12] <Bookman> Works perfectly.
[00:12] <Bookman> Easy Peasy
[00:13] <rye> Bookman, erm, could you please save the contents of http://paste.ubuntu.com/374306/plain/ to some test.py, run python test.py on the remote machine in the same session and see whether it has some token?
[00:13] <Bookman> I'm trying not to mention it!
[00:14] <rye> Bookman, yep, but it does not let one to sync any folder, the rollout of support of which is actually being worked on at the moment on the servers :)
[00:14] <Bookman> That would be awesome.  If it worked.
[00:14] <Bookman> syncing one folder does work.
[00:14] <Bookman> Baby steps
[00:15] <Bookman> Let's get one thing right first.  Which is not.
[00:15] <Bookman> No way I'm special case.
[00:15] <Bookman> Simple computers
[00:16] <rye> Bookman, i was actually appointed to make sure that the client will stop being the black box and that it will work w/o the magic dance we are actually performing now
[00:16] <Bookman> Put all your efforts here first, then expand
[00:16] <Bookman> rye, you have a big job ahead of you!
[00:17] <Bookman> Ok, what to do next here....I have limited time. I'm hungry and unless you are buying....
[00:17] <rye> Bookman, yep, i know, I have started using UbuntuOne in september and there are a lot of rough corners, which will be eliminated. Since there are finite amount of them, actually.
[00:17] <rye> ok
[00:18] <Bookman> I'm sure you will.
[00:19] <rye> I want to check that your filesync service is actually authorized, since this is remote launch and there may be a tiny chance that something goes wrong with browser launch for OAuth.
[00:19] <Bookman> Ok, step by step, what do I do.
[00:20] <rye> Bookman, could you please copy the script from http://paste.ubuntu.com/374306/plain/ to some file on the remote machine, say, "token.py" ?
[00:21] <rye> note that wget will not work, since the web site redirects to authorisation page that gets actually downloaded.
[00:22] <Bookman> copied
[00:23] <rye> Bookman, ok, now run python token.py
[00:23] <Bookman> working...........
[00:23] <rye> it may ask you about access to the keyring, you can click 'Allow Once' or similar, depending on your locale setting
[00:24] <Bookman> keithclark@bookworm-acerdesktop:~$ python ubuntuonesolve
[00:24] <Bookman> Traceback (most recent call last):
[00:24] <Bookman>   File "ubuntuonesolve", line 10, in <module>
[00:24] <Bookman>     'oauth-consumer-key': 'ubuntuone'})
[00:24] <Bookman> gnomekeyring.NoKeyringDaemonError
[00:24] <rye> erm
[00:24] <rye> Bookman, is it in the same session where u1sdtool was being called?
[00:26] <Bookman> yup
[00:30] <Bookman> Ok, obviously you guys have a long way to go to catch up to your competitor.  I will check back in the next release.
[00:30] <rye> Bookman, this actually means that there is no gnome-keyring running... but according to processlist you posted it is actually running. Just tried the ssh forwarding from my vm - it looks ok...
[00:32] <rye> yep, it autostarts gnome keyring if it is not present
[00:32] <Bookman> Still does not make it work for me and my wife is getting angry
[00:34] <rye> Bookman, ok, I guess it will require being at the local terminal to troubleshoot gnome-keyring issue (which may actually be the reason why ubuntuone can't login)...
[00:35] <Bookman> Well, you guys have your work cut out for you.  In the meantime, and until the next release, I shall use the competitor.  It just works.
[00:36] <Bookman> Strange....a Windows based competitor works better with Linux....
[00:36] <Bookman> Sorry for the dig
[00:36] <rye> Bookman, no, it is actually an expected reaction, it should be easier to set up, understand and it should not require so much work to debug
[00:37] <rye> Bookman, i understand what you mean
[00:37] <Bookman> Carry on and have fun.  I'll try again next release......maybe.  It is hard to break a habit!
[00:38] <rye> at least I've got info on one more vector to try, the keyring problem. It should deal with this problems and notify them so that it is clear which part is failing
[00:38] <rye> Bookman, thanks and I i wish you all the best with competiting product
[00:39] <Bookman> If this were my business, I would apply all my resources 24/7 to solve this issue.  I am a potential customer that is going to have to move to a competing product.
[00:39] <rye> Bookman, feel free to msg me on what you feel should be done better.
[00:39] <Bookman> Your choice of course......open source and free.  I'd pay for something that works of course!
[00:40] <Bookman> I told you what to do.
[00:40] <rye> Bookman, unfortunately, I am not able to reproduce the issue locally and still, I have to admit that setting up this remotely via ssh is not a supported operation.
[00:40] <Bookman> Ok, gotta run. Thanks for your dedication.  Much appreciated!
[00:41] <rye> it is not like Transmission which has its own web service so that it won't be necessary to run in over X, though...
[00:41] <Bookman> No problem!  Money is where things work....carry on and have fun!
[00:41] <rye> Bookman, ok, thanks for the talk and I hope we will be able to make UbuntuOne really shine.
[00:41] <Bookman> You will.
[00:43] <rye> for the record: sad but true. The software is complex but it should handle the failure of various components. In this case it is not clear whether gnome-keyring prevented ubuntuone-login from starting the syncdaemon or whether there was some other problem.
[00:45] <duanedesign> hello rye
[00:46] <rye> 'It does not work' is what we are going to fight against. Currently it works, mostly, but some special conditions (e.g. Wicd instead of NetworkManager, btw, Wicd presents dbus service as well, afaik) creates negative experience.
[00:46] <rye> duanedesign, hi
[00:46] <rye> i am about to go offline, just making a speech for future generations :)
[00:47] <duanedesign> quick question
[00:47] <duanedesign> i know it is early/late there
[00:47] <rye> Negative experience is what actually being posted online, in the media, etc. SInce usually when the thing does work nobody will run through online services and post 'It works!'.
[00:47] <rye> duanedesign, yep, ready to answer :)
[00:48] <duanedesign> rye: did the changes that were released in 1.0.3 on the 5th make it to the Lucid branch
[00:48] <duanedesign> rye: had a bug report for an issue that a fix was released for and is documented in the 1.0.3 changelog.
[00:48] <duanedesign> The OP is running Lucid
[00:49] <duanedesign> was wondering what would be the best way to get him that fix?
[00:51] <rye> hm
[00:53] <duanedesign> i dont want you to worry about it now if the answer is not immediately at your fingertips, it can wait till tommorrow :) According to my FoxClocks add-on its 3:00am there
[00:54] <rye> duanedesign, yup, 02:54, hm, I guess we will need to poke dobey, since I can't find the branch for 1.1.0 versions.
[00:54] <duanedesign> no problem at all
[00:55] <duanedesign> see you tommorrow. Look forward to reading the scroll back, hope to pick up some debugging tips ;)
[00:55] <duanedesign> rye: ^^
[00:56] <rye> duanedesign, heh, this story had a sad ending :)
[00:56] <duanedesign> heh
[00:57] <rye> ok, I guess i am no longer able to think so i will go offline. Have a nice gettimeofday() :), see you tomorrow :)
[00:57] <rye> duanedesign, ^
[00:57] <duanedesign> ;)
[00:58] <duanedesign> sounds good rye
[04:43] <dereks> hey, is it possible to have a commandline only install of ubuntuone?
[09:07] <DerekT> Hello.  Could someone please advise if Ubuntu One has 'efficient' syncing, i.e. if I loose internet connection part-way through syncing, once I reconnect to the internet that the sync doesnt start from scratch please?
[09:17] <DerekT>  Hello.  Could someone please advise if Ubuntu One has 'efficient' syncing, i.e. if I loose internet connection part-way through syncing, once I reconnect to the internet that the sync doesnt start from scratch please?
[09:19] <rye> DerekT, what you are describing is 'delta' support. Unfortunately this is not yet implemented in Ubuntu One, however this is a planned feature.
[09:22] <DerekT> Ok, thanks.  Do you know any ETA on that at all?  The reason I ask, is I keep trying to sync a 4gb file, but even with a pretty fast broadband connection and leaving my laptop on for over 24 hours, it never seems to get there...
[09:26] <rye> DerekT, hm... i've searched the bug report db and blueprints and it appears that this is planned feature but w/o any supporting document. This is strange.
[09:27] <rye> I am filing a bug because this is a really useful thing to have, especially on 50Gb plan, since otherwise the user will need to split the file locally to upload it in a finite amount of time.
[09:27] <rye> grrr
[09:29] <rye> hm
[09:29] <rye> DerekT, you are trying to sync 1 file and it has never been uploaded to the service, right?
[09:30] <rye> i believe this is not really delta support that is missing. Is it being uploaded now?
[09:30] <rye> DerekT, ^
[09:36] <rye> DerekT, hm, actually it is resumable upload and it looks that the code is already present on the server... hmmm... let me check whether resumable-uploads is actually usable on the client
[09:41] <DerekT> Thank you all for your help.  I do think it would be a really useful feature.  I'm aware I can tar.gz files and split them too, but just thought about asking.  Many thanks again.
[09:42] <DerekT> I've actually just removed the file in question from the Ubuntu One folder, and let it sync my smaller files first.  Then I'll copy it back and leave my laptop running for as long as possible to see if it uploads.  Thank you again.
[09:45] <rye> DerekT, I am now testing how network disconnect disrupts file transfer and whether it is going to be resumed.
[09:49] <rye> DerekT, could you please advice what type of file is that 4Gb object?
[09:51] <DerekT> The file is a compressed tar.gz file which is then encrypted using gpg -c so the final extension is .tar.gz.gpg
[10:07] <rye> DerekT, ok, I have marked the bug as the task for cilent-side support. There is a bug report and even some code for server-side, I will make sure that developers are aware of this issue.
[10:12] <DerekT> Rye - Many thanks for your help on this, I appreciate it.  Bye.
[10:12] <rye> DerekT, thanks for your report!
[11:38] <duanedesign> good day /2
[11:41] <rye> duanedesign, hi!
[11:47] <duanedesign> hello rye
[11:48] <duanedesign> I am hoping to get some stuff accomplished today. Felt like I didnt get much done yesterday
[12:34] <rye> wooo hooo
[12:34] <rye> tomboy notes in XML :)
[12:34] <rye> erm, when servers are updated
[12:50] <rye> cool, it is snowing horizontally here :-)
[12:51] <duanedesign> oh boy
[13:50] <rye> hm, why can't we use dbus-session on shell logins? It is a matter of storing DBUS session address somewhere and new logins shoudl only initialise environment vart...
[14:23] <urbanape> kenvandine, ping
[14:24] <rye> READY_WITH_NETWORK_WITH_BOTHQ. why does it happen? Can syncdaemon ignore connection request sent by applet and switch to that state?
[14:24] <nessita> rye: hey
[14:24] <nessita> rye: that state means the user hasn't click on "connect"
[14:25] <rye> nessita, yep, but is it possible that the user clicked on 'connect' but syncdaemon ignored that and after LR finished it switched to this mode and happily sits waiting for yet another signal?
[14:26] <nessita> rye: I never heard of that before but I won't say is "impossible"
[14:26] <nessita> :-)
[14:28] <rye> nessita, thanks, I need to carefully craft the condition and then force syncdaemon to reproduce the issue :)
[14:28] <nessita> rye: thank you
[14:29] <urbanape> is it just me or is the max mouse acceleration under lucid slower than under karmic?
[14:29] <verterok> rye, nessita: it might be sitting there if the user don't have a token and the oauth dance was triggered by the connect request
[14:30] <dobey> rye: dbus + shell logins can be quite problematic
[14:31] <dobey> urbanape: i don't know about you, but i haven't seen any people with nanometer precision of hand movements, even in movies... so whatever the fastest setting is, it's probably still too fast :)
[14:33] <Voytech> hat do You think becouse I do not know exactly.. If I am using couchDB api, can I somehow talk to desktopcouch using for example http, by directly talking to couchdb server wrapped by desktopcouch ?  I do not want to use desktopcouch api written in python, I want to communicate with couchdb and to synchronize it in ubuntu (desktopcouch)
[14:36] <rye> Voytech, I believe that in this case you will neeed to 1) get port number for desktopcouch via dbus call and 2) get required credentials to access couchdb http service. After this you will just need to stick to the conventions deskribed on desktopcouch pages on freedesktop and you will be able to perform the tasks you've mentioned.
[14:36] <dobey> desktopcouch ensures the correct record format, and makes it easier to connect to the correct couchdb server, because it's on a random port
[14:37] <kenvandine> urbanape, pong
[14:37] <dobey> you can use couchdb-glib in C or Vala to talk to desktopcouch if you want. it's how the evolution backend works
[14:39] <urbanape> kenvandine, did you get a chance to look at my bindwood package branch?
[14:40] <urbanape> dobey, well, it still seems sluggish on this 30" monitor. Maybe it's VMware.
[14:41] <kenvandine> urbanape, oh... no i missed that
[14:41] <kenvandine> urbanape, where is it?
[14:41] <Voytech> So couchdb-glib allows to talk to desktopcouch directly not by talking to couchdb ?
[14:41] <Voytech> and it is in C ?
[14:42] <rodrigo_> Voytech, it talks to desktopcouch using couchdb REST interface
[14:42] <urbanape> kenvandine, lp:~urbanape/firefox-extensions/bindwood.ubuntu-lucid
[14:42]  * kenvandine looks
[14:42] <rodrigo_> Voytech, it provides an easy way to get credentials, ensure record format, etc
[14:42] <rodrigo_> Voytech, and yes, it's in C
[14:42] <Voytech> rodrigo_, so I will use it surely :)
[14:43] <rodrigo_> Voytech, use the 0.5.0/0.6.0 version (git trunk), the API has changed a lot since the version in karmic
[14:43] <Voytech> rodrigo_, thank You for reply it was very helpfull
[14:45] <kenvandine> urbanape, should versioin in install.rdf really be 1.0-ppa?
[14:45] <urbanape> d'oh
[14:45] <urbanape> no. just a sec
[14:45] <kenvandine> :)
[14:45]  * kenvandine thinks that should be some macro replaced when you build it :)
[14:46] <urbanape> yes, yes it should.
[14:46] <urbanape> updated and pushed
[14:52] <kenvandine> urbanape, ok, it looks good to me
[14:52] <kenvandine> now to figure out who can/should upload it :)
[14:54] <kjoller> Hi all
[14:54] <kjoller> I have stored some data in my local desktop CouchDB
[14:55] <kjoller> Am I right to understand that this is now synced to UbuntuOne?
[14:55] <thisfred> kjoller: unless you manually excluded the database, yes
[14:55] <kjoller> How can I check this? Is it possible to access (possibly read-only) my CouchDB on UbuntuOne?
[14:56] <thisfred> kjoller: you can check by signing up with a different machine, (or the same machine again) and see whether it gets the data
[14:56] <thisfred> aquarius: is there an easy way to do this ^
[14:56] <rye> kjoller, you can also look at the replication log to make sure replication is started
[14:56] <urbanape> kenvandine, yeah, that's a good question.
[14:56] <thisfred> something like the command line tool we have?
[14:57] <kenvandine> urbanape, i'll get someone to sponsor it :)
[14:57] <urbanape> I guess I could go and check with asac. Looks like the last guy who helped out was benjamin drung.
[14:57] <urbanape> thanks, man
[14:57] <kjoller> I'll just try syncing to another user.
[14:57] <kjoller> Good idea, btw
[14:58] <kjoller> rye: replication log?
[14:59] <thisfred> or CardinalFang: is there a simple way to query the u1 databases?
[14:59] <rye> kjoller, make sure you do not post the contents of it - it contains your private tokens - ~/.cache/desktop-couch/log/desktop-couch-replication.log
[14:59] <thisfred> as in, do we include a command line tool to do so?
[15:03] <CardinalFang> thisfred, no.  what means 'query"?
[15:04] <thisfred> CardinalFang: well we have this tool in the server code that we can use to test arbitrary http calls to couchdb, right? I wonder if we should put that in d-c
[15:04] <thisfred> so people don't feel as though they're shoving their data into the void
[15:05] <thisfred> I don't think there's anything particularly scary or secret about it
[15:05] <thisfred> If it still works, I haven't used it in a while
[15:05] <vds> desktop+ MEETING BEGINS you know how it works
[15:05] <dobey> so desktopcouch doesn't sync data to u1 until it's paired with u1
[15:06] <dobey> and i think, the only way to do that currently, is to set up the file sync stuff
[15:06] <beuno> me
[15:07] <thisfred> CardinalFang: I speak of utilities/web_api_tool.py
[15:07] <vds> aquarius CardinalFang Chipaca dobey jblount teknico rodrigo_
[15:07] <rodrigo_> me
[15:07] <thisfred> vds: FWIW I think aquarius is having connectivity issues, at least he was yesterday
[15:07] <dobey> me
[15:07] <vds> thisfred: thx!
[15:07] <teknico> me
[15:07] <vds> me
[15:07] <dobey> rodrigo_: please don't run tarmac until you fix your config :)
[15:07] <CardinalFang> me
[15:08] <rodrigo_> dobey, why, what is broken in my config?
[15:08] <dobey> rodrigo_: well you don't have it running tests on ubuntuone-client
[15:08] <rodrigo_> hmm
[15:09] <dereks> hey guys, is there a purely commandline ubuntuone client?
[15:09] <rodrigo_> test_command=./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr && make && make maintainer-clean
[15:09] <rodrigo_> right
[15:09] <dereks> i have a headless box...
[15:09] <dobey> dereks: not really, no
[15:10] <beuno> vds, do I start?  I'm new at this
[15:10] <vds> beuno: please
[15:10] <beuno> sorry
[15:10] <beuno> DONE: Sent summary of work remaining for funambol
[15:10] <beuno> TODO: Finish rodrigo's branch to remove autosave for notes on the web ui, create and target bugs for the remaining of funambol, catch a plane home
[15:10] <beuno> BLOCKED: nein
[15:10] <beuno> rodrigo_, go
[15:10] <rodrigo_> • DONE: On-call review. Music download progress in music store widget. Store notes in Tomboy format. Finally landed nested-lists branch
[15:10] <rodrigo_> • TODO: Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Make sandy's snowy test suite work with our server (http://git.gnome.org/cgit/snowy/tree/api/tests.py). Discuss with jdo and aquarius about oauth token per app, not per machine? Add jslint tests to check. Remove autosave code in notes web editor. U1 client interrogates library page to update download progress. Dbus method for sharing with multiple contacts.
[15:10] <rodrigo_> • BLOCKED: no
[15:10] <rodrigo_> next: dobey
[15:11] <dobey> ☺ DONE: Fixed broken tests in ubuntuone-client
[15:11] <dobey> ☹ TODO: Expenses, ChangeUp release, Pkg branch reorg, Me menu integration, Control panel tabs
[15:11] <dobey> ☹ BLCK: None.
[15:11] <dobey> teknico: go
[15:11] <teknico> DONE: wrote most of the minimal phone setup web ui
[15:11] <teknico> TODO: finishing and writing tests for the minimal phone setup web ui; showing the web desktop+ guys around our phone sync code
[15:11] <teknico> BLOCK: none
[15:11] <teknico> next: vds
[15:11] <vds> DONE: sprinting! started and finished #519233 on its way to review
[15:11] <vds> TODO: NO more sprinting! :) Take a look at the look at the list_of_devices branch
[15:11] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:11] <vds> CardinalFang
[15:11] <CardinalFang> DONE: some work on get_port privitazion in d-c, with help from #dbus.  Sick kid.
[15:11] <CardinalFang> TODO: finish get_port.  Release d-c 0.6.2.
[15:11] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: synergy is broken
[15:12] <CardinalFang> end?
[15:12] <urbanape> me
[15:12] <vds> no end :)
[15:12] <vds> urbanape: please
[15:12] <rye> i crashed ppa via clicking on applet connect and disconnect
[15:12] <CardinalFang> urbanape, whenever you're ready....
[15:12] <urbanape> DONE: Got a lucid package for Bindwood updated and ready to push. Started in on funambol web ui by catching up.
[15:12] <dereks> dobey: is this something thats in the works? it seems that none of the other product in the market do it...
[15:12] <urbanape> TODO: Make some progress on it, make sure Bindwood 1.0 gets into lucid
[15:13] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:14] <dobey> dereks: there is a bug requesting it, but it's not particularly high up on our list of things we need to get done, but we're trying to architect some things so it's doable
[15:15] <aquarius> thisfred, no, there is no easy way to check whether something's in u1couch without web_api_tool, which we need to make public after removing all teh other stuff
[15:15] <aquarius> me
[15:16] <aquarius> DONE: much running around sorting out branches, split out music store DB stuff from other stuff
[15:16] <thisfred> aquarius: ok thx
[15:16] <aquarius> TODO: land all the branches
[15:16] <aquarius> BLOCKED: short of time before I have to go get my daughter
[15:19] <dereks> dobey: thanks
[15:19] <vagvaf> hello
[15:20] <aquarius> dobey, you can pair desktopcouch to Ubuntu One without running the filesync stuff by running desktopcouch-pair, from the desktopcouch-tools package
[15:21] <vagvaf> when i connect to ubuntu one it stays connected for a couple of minutes and then disconnects
[15:21] <vagvaf> any idea why ?
[15:22] <rye> vagvaf, could you please provide us with the version of the client you are using (apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client)
[15:23] <vagvaf> 1.0.3
[15:25] <vagvaf> hmmm after this restart it stays connected...weird
[15:27] <rye> vagvaf, ok, could you please try to connect, wait for a minute or so and then look at the ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log ?
[15:27] <rye> vagvaf, it would be nice if you could post its contents to paste.ubuntu.com
[15:28] <dobey> aquarius: 2010-02-12 10:28:05,871 [24191] root:INFO:  This machine hasn't authorized itself to Ubuntu One; replication to the cloud isn't possible until it has.  See 'ubuntuone-client-applet'.
[15:28] <dobey> aquarius: that's what desktopcouch-pair prints out for me :)
[15:29] <aquarius> dobey, ah, I see what you mean; your machine has to be connected to Ubuntu One, yes. dc-pair doesn't kick off the connection process. :)
[15:29] <aquarius> dobey, and it's not currently possible to connect a machine without setting up filesync, is it? But it *could* be possible.
[15:29] <dobey> aquarius: also that text probably needs to change, since ubuntuone-client-applet doesn't exist any more :)
[15:29] <ezra-s> I have a simple question, I read somewhere that you can even sync your home folder in ubuntu one.. how do you make it syncronize anything other than your Ubuntu One folder?
[15:30] <vagvaf> rye, there you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/374796/
[15:30] <dobey> aquarius: it is now, given the applet is gone
[15:30] <aquarius> ezra-s, that feature is coming as part of the Ubuntu 10.04 release (it's not quite possible yet)
[15:30] <vagvaf> though the problem seems to be fixed
[15:30] <dobey> aquarius: ubuntuone-login doesn't start the syncdaemon
[15:31] <aquarius> dobey, ah, so that'll be how to do it, then :)
[15:31] <dobey> ezra-s: you can't sync your home folder. doing so would be Very Very Bad (TM)
[15:31] <Bookman> boy, I still cannot get Ubuntu One to work on this machine!
[15:31] <ezra-s> aquarius, ahh, alright thank you, so you can't really sync anything other that is not copied into the ubuntu one folder right?
[15:32] <ezra-s> dobey, not if its encrypted :P
[15:32] <rye> vagvaf, hm, it looks fine but i have one thing to check - could you please try quitting syncdaemon - u1sdtool -q
[15:32] <vagvaf> how do i do that ?
[15:32] <rye> vagvaf, and then click applet to connect.
[15:32] <kenvandine> urbanape, chrisccoulson is looking at bindwood
[15:32] <dobey> ezra-s: even if it's encrypted. because presumably you'll want to unencrypt it and use it as your home directory on all your machines
[15:32] <rye> vagvaf, just run it in the terminal window, u1sdtool -q
[15:32] <aquarius> ezra-s, in the current release, yes, that's correct. (As dobey says, you won't be able to sync your entire home folder in 10.04, but you'll be able to sync any folders of your choice under that.)
[15:33] <dobey> ezra-s: and syncing an encrypted filesystem itself is not going to be pretty
[15:33] <ezra-s> dobey, it was really an example as to sync anything other than just that folder.. so no point for me really debating on it :P
[15:33] <vagvaf> it says that it stopped but the icon cloud is like it is connected
[15:33] <dobey> especialy if you use the key :)
[15:33] <dobey> err
[15:33] <dobey> lose the key
[15:34] <ezra-s> aquarius, I just want to synchronize a couple of folders without to have to copy them constantly inside that folder but alright, thank you very much for your help
[15:34] <aquarius> ezra-s, yep, that's exactly why we've built the ability to do that, it's just not released yet :-)
[15:34] <vagvaf> rye, it says that it stopped but the icon cloud is like it is connected
[15:34] <ezra-s> aquarius, well I apreciate your efforts and your work, keep it up! :)
[15:35] <rye> vagvaf, hm, it became desync. ok, try quitting the applet
[15:35] <ezra-s> dobey, lol, I lost my key last night, thats why im asking, i need to have a better way to make backups further on, hehehhee :)
[15:35] <rye> vagvaf, and then start it again.
[15:36] <vagvaf> rye, i did it
[15:36] <rye> vagvaf, it looks like syncdaemon was not receiving any signals from the applet
[15:36] <ezra-s> well, I didn't lose it, I screwed it up following a messed up guide
[15:36] <urbanape> kenvandine, you are a gentleman and a scholar.
[15:36] <vagvaf> aha! thanks! :)
[15:37] <rye> vagvaf, is it doing something?
[15:37] <vagvaf> well it's connected
[15:37] <vagvaf> i haven't updated any files to know if it;s syncing or not
[15:38] <kjoller> thisfred (or other): I have now set up U1 on a separate user to test if the desktopcouch is replicated. The files synced immediately, but the CouchDB only contains the users and management databases
[15:38] <kjoller> Is there any way to force couchdb sync?
[15:38] <thisfred> kjoller: I think it does replication every 10 minutes or so, so you may have to wait a bit
[15:39]  * kjoller paces the room...
[15:39] <rye> kjoller, i believe the replication process did not start
[15:39] <kjoller> ok, i'll wait.
[15:40] <rye> kjoller, could you please check - ps auxw | grep [d]esktopcouch-service ?
[15:41] <kjoller> rye: there is one (1) running. For my regular user, not for the test user.
[15:43] <rye> kjoller, desktopcouch is not started automatically on boot, it is started by some application that requests desktopcouch service
[15:44] <rye> kjoller, http://paste.ubuntu.com/374800/
[15:44] <kjoller> ah, that makes sense
[15:44] <rye> kjoller, this script will query desktopcouch for the port. and it will in turn start replication, this can be done via dbus-send but this is not that spectacular
[15:45] <kjoller> eh?
[15:45] <kjoller> that looks lige a log of some kind?
[15:46] <kjoller> (and my spelling is off)
[15:47] <rye> kjoller, erm
[15:47] <rye> right
[15:47] <rye> kjoller, http://paste.ubuntu.com/374803/ :)
[15:47] <kjoller> no matter, I got it to sync
[15:48] <kjoller> and it worked, including the helloworld and testing databases :)
[15:48] <kjoller> And it seems that gwibber now stores preferences and messages in couch
[15:52] <duanedesign> nice, just saw [b]uenos dent about phone sync :)
[15:53] <kjoller> Now one more question for the day: How do I mark a database not to be synced?
[16:04] <ezra-s> will certain directories sync in ubuntu one If I place symbolink links to certain directories inside the ubuntu one directory?
[16:07] <rye> kjoller, From: 	Stuart Langridge : You can exclude databases from being synced to Ubuntu One - it's a
[16:07] <rye> little awkward at the moment but it's soon to become easier. In the
[16:07] <rye> "management" database in desktopcouch, find the paired-server record for
[16:07] <rye> Ubuntu One, and add a new key, "excluded-names", which is a list of
[16:07] <rye> databases that you don't want synced to Ubuntu One (so, "['mydbname']" ).
[16:08] <rye> ezra-s, following symlinks is not implemented, in fact with future client you will be able to  set what folders you want to be synced to ubuntuone
[16:08] <ezra-s> what can I say, can't wait for next version! ;)
[16:08] <ezra-s> rye, thank you
[16:09] <rye> ezra-s, you are very welcome
[16:09] <rye> ok
[16:09] <ezra-s> ;)
[16:09] <rye> me needs to have some foods
[16:09]  * ezra-s invites rye to beer
[16:11] <kjoller> rye: thx - and good eatin' :)
[18:03] <excalibas> Hello, is there a limit of size for individual files? I have 2 files on my ubuntu one, one uploaded from the browser and other from nautilus, both show up online. I try to upload a large one (267MB) and it doesn't show.
[18:10] <dobey> any per-file size limit is going to be in the 4GB+ range
[18:14] <dobey> It's failing to upload via the web site, and copying into the Ubuntu One folder both?
[18:14] <excalibas> thanks dobey just wanted to get that clear. I thought it was 2GB tho
[18:14] <excalibas> I tried both ways
[18:16] <excalibas> now iy says its updating again, Ill wait, my internet is very slow uploading, a progress bar would be really helpful
[18:16] <dobey> what's your upload speed?
[18:17] <excalibas> Right now system monitor says it is uploading @ +/- 130kiB/s
[18:20] <dobey> u1sdtool --curent-transfers I think shows you more status about what the syncdaemon is doing
[18:20] <dobey> but at that rate, 267M would take about 40 minutes to upload
[18:21] <excalibas> but if it stops uploading (computer shutdown or whatever) it should continue after right?
[18:22] <dobey> ideally, yes
[18:22] <excalibas> the file was there for 3 days and it did't show online
[18:22] <dobey> there might be a bug or two causing it to not work perhaps
[18:23] <dobey> would need a bug report with logs so someone more familiar with that particular part of the code can help debug the problem
[18:23] <excalibas> now i deleted and put it again and will wait to see if it goes, just wanted to make sure there was no single file limiit
[18:23] <excalibas> I have reported a bug
[18:24] <dobey> I think if there is a per-file size limit it is either 4 or 8 GB
[18:24] <dobey> i'll upload something and see
[18:24] <dobey> what was the failure you got in firefox uploading via the web page?
[18:25] <dobey> hmm, i guess i might need to download an iso first to see if i can upload one
[18:25] <excalibas> no failure, it just didn't show no file, it was loading for ever
[18:26] <excalibas> you can upload fast? here in Portugal all people have very slow uploading
[18:27] <dobey> yes, I have 15Mbps upload bandwidth
[18:27] <excalibas> wuu, very nice
[18:27] <dobey> I have a 500+ MB file, so lets see if it uploads :)
[18:29] <excalibas> mine still says uploading which I guess is nice because on the other tries it said that my files were up to date
[18:29] <dobey> yeah, I'm uploading at 3.0MB/s
[18:29] <excalibas> buuu
[18:29] <excalibas> ;)
[18:29] <dobey> should be done in a few seconds :)
[18:30] <excalibas> BTW is there a way to get like a link to a file once it is uploaded so I can share with everyone?
[18:30] <dobey> not yet, but we're working on a way to do public file sharing
[18:31] <rye> hm
[18:31] <excalibas> that would be nice, but i can share my account with several emails and they could download/upload files right
[18:31] <dobey> hrmm, looks like my file uploaded, just waiting for the web ui to get refreshed, which might take a few seconds given I just stuck a 500M file in there :)
[18:33] <rye> dobey, do you experience some kind of web ui slowness?
[18:33] <rye> i mean is one.ubuntu.com working fast for you?
[18:33] <dobey> rye: yes it's very slow when you upload a large file
[18:33] <rye> dobey, erm...
[18:33] <rye> dobey, it is slow for me when you upload a large file? o_O
[18:34] <excalibas> right now my web is extremely slow, but that is normal when uploading i gues
[18:34] <rye> 504 Gateway Time-out
[18:34] <rye> awesome
[18:34] <dobey> nice
[18:34] <dobey> i just got that too
[18:50] <dobey> ok
[18:50] <dobey> and my file is there
[18:50] <dobey> blah, why is it downloading so slow
[18:52] <rye> dobey, you have an unusual asymmetric connection - upload is greater than the download
[18:52] <rye> though i have seen such behavior when ISP forgot to shape the traffic... Before BitTorrent appeared, though
[18:53] <dobey> normally download isn't this slow
[18:53] <dobey> my dl bw is 25Mbit
[18:53] <dobey> well normally it is
[18:53] <dobey> right now it's apparently not ;(
[18:53] <rye> dobey, fttp/fttb ?
[18:54] <dobey> huh?
[18:54] <rye> dobey, or it is DSL?
[18:55] <dobey> it's fiber
[18:55] <rye> dobey, ah, I meant fiber to the premises/building
[18:55] <dobey> ah
[18:55] <excalibas> It shows online!!! very nice
[19:37] <excalibas> Thanks ppl Good Luck
[22:16] <Barros> somebody is having problem with the ubuntu-gnome client?
[22:17] <Barros> cannot conect here
[22:17] <Barros> just in Web
[22:17] <Barros> in the first time it worked
[22:17] <Barros> but now i cant get connect