[00:02] well, fffffuuuuuuu is all I can say, this cpu does not have padlock :( [00:09] How can I change floppy mount only for root? [01:26] <`mOOse`> guys - is there any relief from the crap fonts that I have to endure when I use firefox? [01:26] <`mOOse`> is there truetype-equivalent-font-set someplace? [02:01] i'm on an iMac and i can't figure out how to boot xubuntu i have on a usb flash to install [02:01] can anyone help please? [02:05] anyone? [02:06] does anyone know how to install xubuntu on an imac with a usb flash drive? i already have it on the usb [02:07] <`mOOse`> since I have zero experience with macs I don't think it's in your best interest that I help you - if someone DOES have the experience I'm sure they'd chime in [02:44] i'm tryin to install xubuntu on my imac and i need help [02:45] all i have is a usb flash drive with xubuntu no discs [02:45] and i don't know how to boot it [02:45] i tried holding the option key and it just brings up the HD icon and that just boots the mac desktop [02:45] can anyone help? [02:47] anyone here? [02:49] this sucks [02:49] <`mOOse`> everybody's here [02:50] <`mOOse`> have you done any research? say...google? [02:50] lots [02:50] <`mOOse`> and what has your research told you? [02:50] i tried holding option key and c and the apple logo key [02:50] all option does is bring up HD icon and it just boots to the desktop [02:50] the other keys did nothing [02:51] <`mOOse`> that's a lot of research, yep [02:51] <`mOOse`> how about google? [02:51] for hours [02:52] <`mOOse`> so do you think there's the slightest chance that maybe people don't install ubuntu on imacs for a reason? [02:52] i dunno [02:52] i decided i prefer xubuntu thats all [02:52] <`mOOse`> that the architecture is not compatible to the code? [02:53] <`mOOse`> that's fine but [02:53] it supposedly is [02:53] <`mOOse`> who supposed that/ [02:53] robertzaccour: might want to post your question to ubuntuforums [02:53] * pleia2 doesn't have any experience with xubuntu on macs either [02:54] <`mOOse`> I mean if it's doable then you know there's a howto out there someplace [02:54] <`mOOse`> and if you googled it like you said you did then you'd have some notion of how to go about installing it [02:54] mac doesn't operate my sub flash drive properly [02:55] <`mOOse`> well there's your first problem [02:55] i read hold down the option key, all that does is bring up the HD icon which boots the desktop [02:55] not a problem [02:55] <`mOOse`> why not download the iso and burn it to a cd and install it that way? assuming it's possible to install at all [02:55] i'm tryin to boot from the flash drive [02:55] what key do i hold to boot from the flash drive? [02:55] <`mOOse`> yes, ad nauseum - we know that [02:55] i don't have a cd [02:55] <`mOOse`> no idea - I don't have an imac! [02:56] <`mOOse`> is this a power pc? [02:56] <`mOOse`> or intel? how old is it? [02:57] intel [02:57] 3 years i think [02:58] <`mOOse`> well once again, being at a crippling disadvantage I googled and got 137,000 hits on "boot flash drive imac key"... [02:59] <`mOOse`> and again not having a clue WHAT model you ACTUALLY have because you haven't told us, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28326 tells me that you can't install from a usb port [02:59] <`mOOse`> but then again - who knows? [02:59] that article is 2005 [02:59] irrelevent [03:01] <`mOOse`> welp - how bout you finding the relevant article then? [03:01] i've been looking for hours. scroll up [03:01] <`mOOse`> yes I can read quite well thanks [03:02] cool [03:02] <`mOOse`> again - without knowing what model you have it's pretty difficult to help you [03:02] Model Name: iMac [03:02] Model Identifier: iMac5,2 [03:03] <`mOOse`> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/stats/imac-core-2-duo-1.83-17-inch-specs.html [03:03] <`mOOse`> would that be it? [03:04] <`mOOse`> listen - gotta run - good luck [03:04] yes thats it [03:26] Post your screenshots here!!! http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/196461101#196465296 [04:17] hey all, can anyone tell me how I can turn off the icons in front of "Applications" and "Places" [04:20] Anyone? [04:37] Guys, I hit prnt scrn button and nothing happens. I can use compiz screenshot but I dont like dragging. Anyone help me out? [04:39] i booted xubuntu karmic on my intel imac and got to the boot screen and it wouldn't go past the black screen after the white mouse in the middle [04:40] is this a known issue? [04:40] should i try ubuntu instead of xubuntu? [04:42] robertzaccour: it's a known issue. [04:43] It was a bug in xserver-xorg-intel for me [04:43] is there any xubuntu/ubuntu version that will work? daily build maybe? [04:43] or should i just give up? [04:44] Well, Mine is working now... have you updated to the latest packages? [04:44] robertzaccour: actually do this [04:44] do what? [04:44] ALT, CTRL F1 and log into your console, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [04:45] Then reboot [04:45] i'm in mac now, xubuntu won't boot to the desktop [04:45] right [04:45] it shows the white mouse in the center of the screen then goes black and doesn't go to the desktop [04:45] Go to your virtual terminal [04:46] you don't need x for that [04:46] how do i go to virtual terminal? [04:46] youre in a mac... apple ctrl f1 [04:46] i'm not using virtualbox [04:46] ugh [04:47] dude did I say anything about virtualbox? [04:47] Do what I told you please [04:47] press apple ctrl and f1 [04:47] its not opening anything [04:47] do you have an alt key? [04:48] yes its alt and option [04:48] ok so alt opt and f1 then [04:48] still nothing [04:48] running snowleopard [04:48] then boot to ubuntu [04:48] ugh [04:49] so i should try ubuntu instead of xubuntu? [04:49] you need to boot ubuntu, then do that key combo, login and upgrade your system [04:49] no [04:49] just do what I ask, please [04:49] on the black screen? [04:50] yes [04:50] ok brb thanks [04:50] when you press that key combo, you'll be greeted with a text login, log in then do what I asked you to [04:58] i'm back [04:58] screen stayed black [04:59] still having problems booting into xubuntu [05:00] did you get to VT1? [05:01] no i got to the black screen past the white mouse [05:01] did it have any writing on it? [05:01] there was right before the white mouse but just for a couple seconds, that was before i pressed anything [05:02] and did you do the ctrl alt F1 combo? [05:04] yes i did [05:04] nothing changed [05:04] It should have. [05:04] I mean, it works for me then and now just fine [05:05] maybe i should try alternate iso [05:05] robertzaccour: it's got nothing to do with your iso [05:05] robertzaccour, hi, it looks like you're trying to use Linux. Would you like help? [05:05] yes please [05:05] it would have done it on Ubuntu as well [05:05] listen [05:05] ok [05:05] robertzaccour: do you have another system from which you can log into here [05:05] ? [05:06] robertzaccour, do what syn-ack said, then read/do this if it doesn't fix it: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x-windows-system-xorg-server/ [05:06] this is on a mac though, correct? [05:06] if that doesn't work, maybe go back to OSX and stay there. [05:06] yes on an imac right now [05:06] bazhang: yeah, but it shouldnt matter since the key combo is the same [05:06] correct? [05:07] robertzaccour, we gathered that. [05:07] intel imac right? [05:07] yes [05:07] sorry to be late to the proceedings, so missed some details [05:08] bazhang: he's been hit by the intel xserver bug that was just fixed [05:08] i try to boot the live cd and it doesn't go past the black screen right after the the white mouse after selecting boot live/install [05:08] syn-ack, ouch [05:08] it was fixed? [05:08] I've been trying to get him to log into the console to log in and and update his system [05:08] yes, it was. Today [05:08] syn-ack, that was -just- fixed? god, that problem was bothering me a year ago :-o [05:08] i need to update mac? [05:08] ah right, sorry to interrupt syn-ack [05:09] if it's the same bug [05:09] have to get lunch anyway :) [05:09] robertzaccour: you need to update the software, not the hardware [05:09] caimlas: it was a new one. :/ [05:09] robertzaccour, think of it as a "driver issue" [05:09] syn-ack, hmm. [05:09] how do i fix it? [05:09] robertzaccour: you need to log into the console and update your system [05:10] syn-ack, doesn't Ubuntu lock people out of going to VTs by default now? [05:10] no [05:10] ctl-alt-bk is, at least [05:10] or was in 9.04 [05:10] whats VTs? [05:10] they lock zapping by default [05:10] maybe i should use the daily build [05:10] NO [05:10] ok [05:10] robertzaccour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console [05:10] it's a simple fix if you'd just relax. [05:11] robertzaccour: so, do you have another system from which you can log into here while working on that mac? [05:11] robertzaccour, Ctl-Apple-F1 or some similar key combination to get to a VT [05:11] no i don't [05:11] actually the ps3 [05:11] it has a web browser [05:11] but no irc [05:11] ok, so reboot to ubuntu and do what caimlas just said [05:11] so i guess i don't [05:12] you will be greeted with a text login [05:12] enter the username [05:12] enter the pass [05:12] sudo apt-get update [05:12] robertzaccour, might be Ctl-Apple-F1 might be Apple-Ctl-F1 might be some other key combo. [05:12] WRITE IT DOWN [05:12] i have never installed ubuntu on this system yet [05:12] wait [05:12] what [05:12] ... [05:12] i'm tryin to install it [05:12] so you're not dual booting? [05:12] ugh [05:12] i've only got mac on it [05:13] tryin to install xubuntu [05:13] Ok so get the daily then [05:13] it should work fine? [05:13] that issue is Casper related, not xserver x org related [05:13] it should if they solved the casper issue [05:13] xubuntu or ubuntu daily? [05:14] well what are you looking to run? [05:14] xubuntu [05:14] then grab that daily [05:14] but i'm not sure which is more intel mac friendly gnome or xfce [05:14] define "mac friendly"\ [05:15] hardware friendly sorry [05:15] less bugs on this hardware [05:15] syn-ack, I think I know how to fix it [05:15] robertzaccour, are you on OSX right now? [05:16] don't. :P [05:16] no larts for you, caimlas! :P [05:16] don't what? I'm trying to help. [05:16] I thought you were going to tell him to stay there. :P [05:16] yes i am [05:16] downloaded daily right now [05:16] robertzaccour: just grab the xubuntu daily [05:16] then try try again [05:16] 9 minutes left [05:17] then burn then try again [05:18] i'm watchin manswers while its downloading [05:20] thanks for the help yall [05:20] so, what to talk about while waiting [05:26] 1 minute then burn [05:30] burning [05:30] yall still there? [05:31] no [05:32] haha right [05:33] i can skip verifying right? [05:34] I would verify just to be on the safe side, but you can, sure [05:34] its a cd-r so i can't use it again anyway [05:34] time to try again brb thanks [05:44] i'm back [05:44] i'm the guy that couldn't get xubuntu goin on the imac, its runnin now yeehaw [05:44] thanks yall [05:45] this kicks mac's ass, i fell for the mac looks and soon realized its shitty [05:46] congrats and please watch the language [05:46] oh sorry about that [05:46] but yea, I have the same hardware you do for a LOT less than you paid. :D [05:46] figured kids are away and didn't think [05:46] really? [05:47] i paid 725 [05:47] it performs a lot better than mac thats for sure [05:47] till recently i was using a netbook [05:48] I paid a little less than that for this machine [05:48] oh cool [05:48] anyway, if you want to be of please go to #xubuntu-offtopic and I will gladly talk to you there [05:48] and i thought i got a good deal haha [05:48] super [05:49] I paid a little more than $725 [05:49] but I also got a lot more machine, I suspect. [05:49] heh [05:49] it will last me 3 more years w/o upgrade, I suspect. [06:05] where are the icons for panels and such installed? I want to overwrite them [06:06] if you want to get new icons put them to ~/.icons [06:07] ~ means your home folder [06:07] I'm trying to overwrite a specific icon, since it isn't allowing me to change it. [06:07] It is "Places" [06:08] /usr/share/icons and select right icon set [06:11] ah okay thank you [06:11] also, do you know any guides for customizing the DE? [06:11] ahem, DE? [06:12] desktop enviorment [06:13] also, the icon wasn't in their [06:14] there* [06:14] though it was a very similar series of icons [06:14] http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes [06:15] and if you want transparency, Settings → window manager tweaks [06:36] thank you :) [06:38] what is terminal actually called? [06:38] I'm trying to make a launcher [06:40] alright, I found it sorry [07:00] xubuntu related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmUKVrT0iI [07:16] when moving windows their movement in y dirrection is limmited(you cant move window above upper screen border) how do i dissable this limitation? (btw i think its _very_ stupid to have it in a first place [07:21] i'm able to do that [07:22] hm i checked that again it seems to work just hass some resistance [07:25] so sorry then, probably false alarm :) [07:25] still ill have to test it again on citrix virtual install [07:25] np :) [07:32] can somebody help how can i change the hostname on my xubuntu live usb plzz ?? [07:32] what do you mean exactly? [07:33] instead of ubuntu@ubuntu [07:34] vim /etc/hostname [07:34] ;) [07:34] then you might need to restart some service, probably network [07:34] gunn [07:34] dunno* about witch one though [07:34] ok no problem thnx :D [07:34] btw why you need that on livecd? [07:35] :) [07:35] in live usb.... [07:35] o [07:35] missed taht : [07:37] ahhhhh, home at last, in the peaceful binary rainforest known as............xubuntu (zoo boon too). [07:43] im sorry can i have once more that command :S ??? [08:36] vim /etc/hostname [08:36] simply said [08:36] edit /etc/hostname file [08:36] anyone know about qmail? [08:36] i already setup but can't use smtp [08:50] l4ng1t, you always need to auth w/ gmail, even smtp [08:51] oh.. [08:51] knome, even i use it for everybody who connected at my network? [08:52] gmait smtp is *not* public [08:53] it's meant to be used by single users with their own auth info [08:53] you should ask your isp for public/general smtp access [10:31] My speakers make a crackling noise when I'm using WiFi, kind of like when your mobile phone is near a speaker and it makes distortion noise. Know what I mean? Any ideas? [10:32] It wasn't an issue before Karmic. :-\ [10:32] move the phone on some other place :D [10:34] No, it's not the phone, it's my laptop doing it on its own. [10:35] I found some posts online saying that they stopped their speakers from crackling by commenting out the last line of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf but it didn't work for me. [12:45] hello ppl'z [12:46] I have broadwave installed lame encoder & lame acm encoder installed for it & now its acting like its mising mp3el again & will not even run... any suggestions? [12:47] it was working untill I restarted [12:49] is anyone home?? [13:00] hello niko. welcome to the lonly Xubuntu chan [13:18] * Soul_Shadow pokes everyone in channel [13:22] hi, how do I install gdm themes under ubuntu ? the net talks about using some sort of gui, but I don't seem to have this on my 9.10 xubuntu system [13:23] dunno im only one activw in htis damn chan :( [13:23] active* [13:24] haha [13:25] I need help with broadwave for linux :( [13:25] you;'ve only got 57 that's why [13:25] what? [13:25] i have no idea what broadwave is, sorry. but in general the proper approach is to just ask the questions... and wait [13:25] I have broadwave installed lame encoder & lame acm encoder installed for it & now its acting like its mising mp3el again & will not even run... any suggestions? [13:26] in some channels, I ask the question and leave my computer. few hours later I get a useful answer [13:26] sigh... Time I little of :( [13:26] trying to set up a linux internet radio server [13:29] Soul_Shadow: ask in #ubuntu also. this isn't xubuntu specific [13:31] #/join #ubuntu [13:37] Hello everybody, I just installed Xubuntu and I am wondering what manager to use to connect to my Creative Zen? I used Gnomad2 on kubuntu, but maybe there is a app more native to Xubuntu? [13:50] G/L nobody active except me === bittin__ is now known as bittin` [13:56] .... [13:56] I have broadwave installed lame encoder & lame acm encoder installed for it & now its acting like its mising mp3el again & will not even run... any suggestions? [13:56] it worked first time I installed it [14:00] hi guys, i'm having a problem with my new xubuntu install, it works fine when i first load it, then i update, and later it decides it's not going to let me log in - it sends me to the log inscreen (even though I told it not to) and hten when i log in, looks like it's going to work, but hcanges its mind and sends me back to login in an endless loop [14:09] Lusule: make sure you select session at login [14:09] TheSheep: I have [14:10] there might be two with the same name, try both [14:10] i have [14:10] there was a bug... [14:12] there are two xfce sessions and they both boot me back to gdm [14:23] Hi guys, I got a kernal update on Xubuntu 8.10 the other day, does anyone know which version it was? I can't remember... [14:23] Or is there a command to get the kernal version listed? [14:23] uname -m [14:24] Cheers :-) [14:24] i use -a usually [14:24] or uname -s i mean :< [14:24] Oh yeah, thanx :-) [14:24] or -a :) [14:24] iam in other minds at the moment :D [14:26] Hehehe [14:27] okay, i did sudo stop gdm, then startx, and that loads it up fine [14:28] so it looks like the problem is with gdm [14:29] yeah [14:33] right so it's definitely a gdm problem, maybe i should just uninstall gdm, i don't need it, this is the only login i'll ever use [14:39] Lusule: be aware that gdm does quite some additional work in xubuntu, setting up ICE auth and some ssh-agents and such [14:39] Lusule: I never manager to get 100% functional desktop without gdm [14:39] managed* [14:39] i don't seem to have a 100% functional desktop with it >< [14:40] i have to kill it before i can log in [15:14] this install is not going well for me >< also have no sound, on a toshiba laptop [15:15] karmic? have you checked that everything is unmuted [15:15] where do i find those settings? [15:16] click icon in panel [15:16] GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem. [15:16] i think there's two places now, different for gnome-volume-manager and xfce-* [16:42] hello all i have a problem, how to disable shade/unshade titlebar in xfce ? [16:43] you mean hiding? right click and configure panel [16:44] not panel [16:44] but titlebar [16:45] hum, you can at least take that button of from window manager settings [16:46] (sorry when bad english) [16:47] np my english is bad too :) [16:48] but nothing option to disable shade/unshade in window manager settings [16:48] i'm not sure if it's possible [16:56] Hello, I just saw the following when install Battle for Wesnoth. "The following packages were installed and are no longer needed "20-30 names". Type sudo apt-get autoremove to remove them". What should I make of this? [17:10] WierdAAR: what is unclear about that message? === nikolam__ is now known as nikolam [17:39] hi there, i've managed to completely stuff up my install trying to get some issues working. Now I can't even startx, I only have console. I want to create a live-usb-pen to try ubuntu and see if that works any better, is there a way to do so from within console or do i need to reinstall xubuntu first? [17:41] you can use w3m to browse [17:41] find some howto [17:41] i'm using my iphone [17:41] doesn't look like there is :( [17:42] sure there is, that's how you did it before they made that fancy gui [17:42] it's just... complicated [17:42] yeah, i think it's easier just to reinstall and create it from there [17:42] bearing in mind i can't get a basic out of the box laptop setup to work [17:43] i'm going to avoid fancy stuff for now [17:43] if i didn't hate windows so much i'd give up at this point [17:52] hi [18:11] hi there [18:11] has anyone here made a net install with a minimal cd? [18:11] I made an mirror with apt-mirror [18:11] but the installer cant find the release file [18:12] my apache server is running [18:12] I can acess it via network from others computer [18:17] How can I make a makro or something so I can start several programs instead clicking on every single one in the start menu? [18:19] Sachse_Siechtum, you can make a script in bash that opens the programs you want [18:19] I cant program bash [18:19] is there a how-to somewhere? [18:19] but i am sure it is easy to do, read around the net [18:19] I'm not familiar in programming in linux [18:19] ok [18:19] bash is easy [18:20] but you need to learn [18:20] maybe ask someone in programming [18:20] I used to pogram in turbo pascal but that was 10 years ago *g* [18:20] or search linux bash progrqamming [18:21] ok [18:21] nothing like startup applications in preferences? [18:21] Sachse_Siechtum, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html [18:22] yea, you can also add the software to the startup [18:22] bazhang I thought about that too... [18:22] but it will always open the apps when you login [18:22] yeah [18:23] applications>settings>settings manager ? [18:23] oh another thing...how can I change rights on my floppy drive? right now I cant mount it, only root can.. [18:23] seems a whole lot easier than learning bash [18:23] baz yeah [18:26] you wanted a makro... not to open it always... i only said bash because is builtin in all ubuntu [18:26] it could be in python or whatever [18:27] Sachse_Siechtum, about the floppy look at the user and groups... maybe there is a group for the floppy, if so you need to add yourself to the group [18:28] ok. :-) [18:29] I found a group "floppy" and checked my name on it. [18:36] Sachse_Siechtum, does it work now? [18:36] just a moment... [18:36] No. :-( still says "only root can mount...." [19:31] When you change groups in the gui you need a logout-login cycle to make it effective [19:34] ok Thanks. [22:19] n8