[00:02] <Lam3r_co> well, fffffuuuuuuu is all I can say, this cpu does not have padlock :(
[00:09] <Sachse_Siechtum> How can I change floppy mount only for root?
[01:26] <`mOOse`> guys - is there any relief from the crap fonts that I have to endure when I use firefox?
[01:26] <`mOOse`> is there truetype-equivalent-font-set someplace?
[02:01] <robertzaccour> i'm on an iMac and i can't figure out how to boot xubuntu i have on a usb flash to install
[02:01] <robertzaccour> can anyone help please?
[02:05] <robertzaccour> anyone?
[02:06] <robertzaccour> does anyone know how to install xubuntu on an imac with a usb flash drive? i already have it on the usb
[02:07] <`mOOse`> since I have zero experience with macs I don't think it's in your best interest that I help you - if someone DOES have the experience I'm sure they'd chime in
[02:44] <robertzaccour> i'm tryin to install xubuntu on my imac and i need help
[02:45] <robertzaccour> all i have is a usb flash drive with xubuntu no discs
[02:45] <robertzaccour> and i don't know how to boot it
[02:45] <robertzaccour> i tried holding the option key and it just brings up the HD icon and that just boots the mac desktop
[02:45] <robertzaccour> can anyone help?
[02:47] <robertzaccour> anyone here?
[02:49] <robertzaccour> this sucks
[02:49] <`mOOse`> everybody's here
[02:50] <`mOOse`> have you done any research? say...google?
[02:50] <robertzaccour> lots
[02:50] <`mOOse`> and what has your research told you?
[02:50] <robertzaccour> i tried holding option key and c and the apple logo key
[02:50] <robertzaccour> all option does is bring up HD icon and it just boots to the desktop
[02:50] <robertzaccour> the other keys did nothing
[02:51] <`mOOse`> that's a lot of research, yep
[02:51] <`mOOse`> how about google?
[02:51] <robertzaccour> for hours
[02:52] <`mOOse`> so do you think there's the slightest chance that maybe people don't install ubuntu on imacs for a reason?
[02:52] <robertzaccour> i dunno
[02:52] <robertzaccour> i decided i prefer xubuntu thats all
[02:52] <`mOOse`> that the architecture is not compatible to the code?
[02:53] <`mOOse`> that's fine but
[02:53] <robertzaccour> it supposedly is
[02:53] <`mOOse`> who supposed that/
[02:53] <pleia2> robertzaccour: might want to post your question to ubuntuforums
[02:53]  * pleia2 doesn't have any experience with xubuntu on macs either
[02:54] <`mOOse`> I mean if it's doable then you know there's a howto out there someplace
[02:54] <`mOOse`> and if you googled it like you said you did then you'd have some notion of how to go about installing it
[02:54] <robertzaccour> mac doesn't operate my sub flash drive properly
[02:55] <`mOOse`> well there's your first problem
[02:55] <robertzaccour> i read hold down the option key, all that does is bring up the HD icon which boots the desktop
[02:55] <robertzaccour> not a problem
[02:55] <`mOOse`> why not download the iso and burn it to a cd and install it that way? assuming it's possible to install at all
[02:55] <robertzaccour> i'm tryin to boot from the flash drive
[02:55] <robertzaccour> what key do i hold to boot from the flash drive?
[02:55] <`mOOse`> yes, ad nauseum - we know that
[02:55] <robertzaccour> i don't have a cd
[02:55] <`mOOse`> no idea - I don't have an imac!
[02:56] <`mOOse`> is this a power pc?
[02:56] <`mOOse`> or intel? how old is it?
[02:57] <robertzaccour> intel
[02:57] <robertzaccour> 3 years i think
[02:58] <`mOOse`> well once again, being at a crippling disadvantage I googled and got  137,000 hits on "boot flash drive imac key"...
[02:59] <`mOOse`> and again not having a clue WHAT model you ACTUALLY have because you haven't told us, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28326 tells me that you can't install from a usb port
[02:59] <`mOOse`> but then again - who knows?
[02:59] <robertzaccour> that article is 2005
[02:59] <robertzaccour> irrelevent
[03:01] <`mOOse`> welp - how bout you finding the relevant article then?
[03:01] <robertzaccour> i've been looking for hours. scroll up
[03:01] <`mOOse`> yes I can read quite well thanks
[03:02] <robertzaccour> cool
[03:02] <`mOOse`> again - without knowing what model you have it's pretty difficult to help you
[03:02] <robertzaccour> Model Name:	iMac
[03:02] <robertzaccour>   Model Identifier:	iMac5,2
[03:03] <`mOOse`> http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/stats/imac-core-2-duo-1.83-17-inch-specs.html
[03:03] <`mOOse`> would that be it?
[03:04] <`mOOse`> listen - gotta run - good luck
[03:04] <robertzaccour> yes thats it
[03:26] <aybabtu> Post your screenshots here!!!  http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/196461101#196465296
[04:17] <st4rscr34m> hey all, can anyone tell me how I can turn off the icons in front of "Applications" and "Places"
[04:20] <st4rscr34m> Anyone?
[04:37] <aybabtu> Guys, I hit prnt scrn button and nothing happens. I can use compiz screenshot but I dont like dragging. Anyone help me out?
[04:39] <robertzaccour> i booted xubuntu karmic on my intel imac and got to the boot screen and it wouldn't go past the black screen after the white mouse in the middle
[04:40] <robertzaccour> is this a known issue?
[04:40] <robertzaccour> should i try ubuntu instead of xubuntu?
[04:42] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: it's a known issue.
[04:43] <syn-ack> It was a bug in xserver-xorg-intel for me
[04:43] <robertzaccour> is there any xubuntu/ubuntu version that will work? daily build maybe?
[04:43] <robertzaccour> or should i just give up?
[04:44] <syn-ack> Well, Mine is working now... have you updated to the latest packages?
[04:44] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: actually do this
[04:44] <robertzaccour> do what?
[04:44] <syn-ack> ALT, CTRL F1 and log into your console, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:45] <syn-ack> Then reboot
[04:45] <robertzaccour> i'm in mac now, xubuntu won't boot to the desktop
[04:45] <syn-ack> right
[04:45] <robertzaccour> it shows the white mouse in the center of the screen then goes black and doesn't go to the desktop
[04:45] <syn-ack> Go to your virtual terminal
[04:46] <syn-ack> you don't need x for that
[04:46] <robertzaccour> how do i go to virtual terminal?
[04:46] <syn-ack> youre in a mac... apple ctrl f1
[04:46] <robertzaccour> i'm not using virtualbox
[04:46] <syn-ack> ugh
[04:47] <syn-ack> dude did I say anything about virtualbox?
[04:47] <syn-ack> Do what I told you please
[04:47] <syn-ack> press apple ctrl and f1
[04:47] <robertzaccour> its not opening anything
[04:47] <syn-ack> do you have an alt key?
[04:48] <robertzaccour> yes its alt and option
[04:48] <syn-ack> ok so alt opt and f1 then
[04:48] <robertzaccour> still nothing
[04:48] <robertzaccour> running snowleopard
[04:48] <syn-ack> then boot to ubuntu
[04:48] <syn-ack> ugh
[04:49] <robertzaccour> so i should try ubuntu instead of xubuntu?
[04:49] <syn-ack> you need to boot ubuntu, then do that key combo, login and upgrade your system
[04:49] <syn-ack> no
[04:49] <syn-ack> just do what I ask, please
[04:49] <robertzaccour> on the black screen?
[04:50] <syn-ack> yes
[04:50] <robertzaccour> ok brb thanks
[04:50] <syn-ack> when you press that key combo, you'll be greeted with a text login, log in then do what I asked you to
[04:58] <robertzaccour> i'm back
[04:58] <robertzaccour> screen stayed black
[04:59] <robertzaccour> still having problems booting into xubuntu
[05:00] <syn-ack> did you get to VT1?
[05:01] <robertzaccour> no i got to the black screen past the white mouse
[05:01] <syn-ack> did it have any writing on it?
[05:01] <robertzaccour> there was right before the white mouse but just for a couple seconds, that was before i pressed anything
[05:02] <syn-ack> and did you do the ctrl alt F1 combo?
[05:04] <robertzaccour> yes i did
[05:04] <robertzaccour> nothing changed
[05:04] <syn-ack> It should have.
[05:04] <syn-ack> I mean, it works for me then and now just fine
[05:05] <robertzaccour> maybe i should try alternate iso
[05:05] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: it's got nothing to do with your iso
[05:05] <caimlas> robertzaccour, hi, it looks like you're trying to use Linux. Would you like help?
[05:05] <robertzaccour> yes please
[05:05] <syn-ack> it would have done it on Ubuntu as well
[05:05] <syn-ack> listen
[05:05] <robertzaccour> ok
[05:05] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: do you have another system from which you can log into here
[05:05] <syn-ack> ?
[05:06] <caimlas> robertzaccour, do what syn-ack said, then read/do this if it doesn't fix it: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x-windows-system-xorg-server/
[05:06] <bazhang> this is on a mac though, correct?
[05:06] <caimlas> if that doesn't work, maybe go back to OSX and stay there.
[05:06] <robertzaccour> yes on an imac right now
[05:06] <syn-ack> bazhang: yeah, but it shouldnt matter since the key combo is the same
[05:06] <syn-ack> correct?
[05:07] <caimlas> robertzaccour, we gathered that.
[05:07] <bazhang> intel imac right?
[05:07] <robertzaccour> yes
[05:07] <bazhang> sorry to be late to the proceedings, so missed some details
[05:08] <syn-ack> bazhang: he's been hit by the intel xserver bug that was just fixed
[05:08] <robertzaccour> i try to boot the live cd and it doesn't go past the black screen right after the the white mouse after selecting boot live/install
[05:08] <bazhang> syn-ack, ouch
[05:08] <robertzaccour> it was fixed?
[05:08] <syn-ack> I've been trying to get him to log into the console to log in and and update his system
[05:08] <syn-ack> yes, it was. Today
[05:08] <caimlas> syn-ack, that was -just- fixed? god, that problem was bothering me a year ago :-o
[05:08] <robertzaccour> i need to update mac?
[05:08] <bazhang> ah right, sorry to interrupt syn-ack
[05:09] <caimlas> if it's the same bug
[05:09] <bazhang> have to get lunch anyway :)
[05:09] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: you need to update the software, not the hardware
[05:09] <syn-ack> caimlas: it was a new one. :/
[05:09] <caimlas> robertzaccour, think of it as a "driver issue"
[05:09] <caimlas> syn-ack, hmm.
[05:09] <robertzaccour> how do i fix it?
[05:09] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: you need to log into the console and update your system
[05:10] <caimlas> syn-ack, doesn't Ubuntu lock people out of going to VTs by default now?
[05:10] <syn-ack> no
[05:10] <caimlas> ctl-alt-bk is, at least
[05:10] <caimlas> or was in 9.04
[05:10] <robertzaccour> whats VTs?
[05:10] <syn-ack> they lock zapping by default
[05:10] <robertzaccour> maybe i should use the daily build
[05:10] <syn-ack> NO
[05:10] <robertzaccour> ok
[05:10] <caimlas> robertzaccour, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console
[05:10] <syn-ack> it's a simple fix if you'd just relax.
[05:11] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: so, do you have another system from which you can log into here while working on that mac?
[05:11] <caimlas> robertzaccour, Ctl-Apple-F1 or some similar key combination to get to a VT
[05:11] <robertzaccour> no i don't
[05:11] <robertzaccour> actually the ps3
[05:11] <robertzaccour> it has a web browser
[05:11] <robertzaccour> but no irc
[05:11] <syn-ack> ok, so reboot to ubuntu and do what caimlas just said
[05:11] <robertzaccour> so i guess i don't
[05:12] <syn-ack> you will be greeted with a text login
[05:12] <syn-ack> enter the username
[05:12] <syn-ack> enter the pass
[05:12] <syn-ack> sudo apt-get update
[05:12] <caimlas> robertzaccour, might be Ctl-Apple-F1 might be Apple-Ctl-F1 might be some other key combo.
[05:12] <caimlas> WRITE IT DOWN
[05:12] <robertzaccour> i have never installed ubuntu on this system yet
[05:12] <syn-ack> wait
[05:12] <syn-ack> what
[05:12] <caimlas> ...
[05:12] <robertzaccour> i'm tryin to install it
[05:12] <syn-ack> so you're not dual booting?
[05:12] <syn-ack> ugh
[05:12] <robertzaccour> i've only got mac on it
[05:13] <robertzaccour> tryin to install xubuntu
[05:13] <syn-ack> Ok so get the daily then
[05:13] <robertzaccour> it should work fine?
[05:13] <syn-ack> that issue is Casper related, not xserver x org related
[05:13] <syn-ack> it should if they solved the casper issue
[05:13] <robertzaccour> xubuntu or ubuntu daily?
[05:14] <syn-ack> well what are you looking to run?
[05:14] <robertzaccour> xubuntu
[05:14] <syn-ack> then grab that daily
[05:14] <robertzaccour> but i'm not sure which is more intel mac friendly gnome or xfce
[05:14] <syn-ack> define "mac friendly"\
[05:15] <robertzaccour> hardware friendly sorry
[05:15] <robertzaccour> less bugs on this hardware
[05:15] <caimlas> syn-ack, I think I know how to fix it
[05:15] <caimlas> robertzaccour, are you on OSX right now?
[05:16] <syn-ack> don't. :P
[05:16] <syn-ack> no larts for you, caimlas! :P
[05:16] <caimlas> don't what? I'm trying to help.
[05:16] <syn-ack> I thought you were going to tell him to stay there. :P
[05:16] <robertzaccour> yes i am
[05:16] <robertzaccour> downloaded daily right now
[05:16] <syn-ack> robertzaccour: just grab the xubuntu daily
[05:16] <syn-ack> then try try again
[05:16] <robertzaccour> 9 minutes left
[05:17] <robertzaccour> then burn then try again
[05:18] <robertzaccour> i'm watchin manswers while its downloading
[05:20] <robertzaccour> thanks for the help yall
[05:20] <robertzaccour> so, what to talk about while waiting
[05:26] <robertzaccour> 1 minute then burn
[05:30] <robertzaccour> burning
[05:30] <robertzaccour> yall still there?
[05:31] <caimlas> no
[05:32] <robertzaccour> haha right
[05:33] <robertzaccour> i can skip verifying right?
[05:34] <syn-ack> I would verify just to be on the safe side, but you can, sure
[05:34] <robertzaccour> its a cd-r so i can't use it again anyway
[05:34] <robertzaccour> time to try again brb thanks
[05:44] <ubuntu_> i'm back
[05:44] <ubuntu_> i'm the guy that couldn't get xubuntu goin on the imac, its runnin now yeehaw
[05:44] <ubuntu_> thanks yall
[05:45] <ubuntu_> this kicks mac's ass, i fell for the mac looks and soon realized its shitty
[05:46] <syn-ack> congrats and please watch the language
[05:46] <ubuntu_> oh sorry about that
[05:46] <syn-ack> but yea, I have the same hardware you do for a LOT less than you paid. :D
[05:46] <ubuntu_> figured kids are away and didn't think
[05:46] <ubuntu_> really?
[05:47] <ubuntu_> i paid 725
[05:47] <ubuntu_> it performs a lot better than mac thats for sure
[05:47] <ubuntu_> till recently i was using a netbook
[05:48] <syn-ack> I paid a little less than that for this machine
[05:48] <ubuntu_> oh cool
[05:48] <syn-ack> anyway, if you want to be of please go to #xubuntu-offtopic and I will gladly talk to you there
[05:48] <ubuntu_> and i thought i got a good deal haha
[05:48] <ubuntu_> super
[05:49] <caimlas> I paid a little more than $725
[05:49] <caimlas> but I also got a lot more machine, I suspect.
[05:49] <syn-ack> heh
[05:49] <caimlas> it will last me 3 more years w/o upgrade, I suspect.
[06:05] <st4rscr34m> where are the icons for panels and such installed? I want to overwrite them
[06:06] <Sysi> if you want to get new icons put them to ~/.icons
[06:07] <Sysi> ~ means your home folder
[06:07] <st4rscr34m> I'm trying to overwrite a specific icon, since it isn't allowing me to change it.
[06:07] <st4rscr34m> It is "Places"
[06:08] <Sysi> /usr/share/icons and select right icon set
[06:11] <st4rscr34m> ah okay thank you
[06:11] <st4rscr34m> also, do you know any guides for customizing the DE?
[06:11] <Sysi> ahem, DE?
[06:12] <st4rscr34m> desktop enviorment
[06:13] <st4rscr34m> also, the icon wasn't in their
[06:14] <st4rscr34m> there*
[06:14] <st4rscr34m> though it was a very similar series of icons
[06:14] <Sysi> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/install_new_themes
[06:15] <Sysi> and if you want transparency, Settings → window manager tweaks
[06:36] <st4rscr34m> thank you :)
[06:38] <st4rscr34m> what is terminal actually called?
[06:38] <st4rscr34m> I'm trying to make a launcher
[06:40] <st4rscr34m> alright, I found it sorry
[07:00] <anom01y> xubuntu related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxmUKVrT0iI
[07:16] <morphles> when moving windows their movement in y dirrection is limmited(you cant move window above upper screen border) how do i dissable this limitation? (btw i think its _very_ stupid to have it in a first place
[07:21] <Sysi> i'm able to do that
[07:22] <morphles> hm i checked that again it seems to work just hass some resistance
[07:25] <morphles> so sorry then, probably false alarm :)
[07:25] <morphles> still ill have to test it again on citrix virtual install
[07:25] <Sysi> np :)
[07:32] <alt_> can somebody help how can i change the hostname on my xubuntu live usb plzz ??
[07:32] <Sysi> what do you mean exactly?
[07:33] <alt_> instead of ubuntu@ubuntu
[07:34] <morphles> vim /etc/hostname
[07:34] <morphles> ;)
[07:34] <morphles> then you might need to restart some service, probably network
[07:34] <morphles> gunn
[07:34] <morphles> dunno* about witch one though
[07:34] <alt_> ok no problem thnx :D
[07:34] <morphles> btw why you need that on livecd?
[07:35] <morphles> :)
[07:35] <alt_> in live usb....
[07:35] <morphles> o
[07:35] <morphles> missed taht :
[07:37] <Balsaq> ahhhhh, home at last, in the peaceful binary rainforest known as............xubuntu (zoo boon too).
[07:43] <alt_> im sorry can i have once more that command :S ???
[08:36] <morphles> vim /etc/hostname
[08:36] <morphles> simply said
[08:36] <morphles> edit /etc/hostname file
[08:36] <l4ng1t> anyone know about qmail?
[08:36] <l4ng1t> i already setup but can't use smtp
[08:50] <knome> l4ng1t, you always need to auth w/ gmail, even smtp
[08:51] <l4ng1t> oh..
[08:51] <l4ng1t> knome, even i use it for everybody who connected at my network?
[08:52] <knome> gmait smtp is *not* public
[08:53] <knome> it's meant to be used by single users with their own auth info
[08:53] <knome> you should ask your isp for public/general smtp access
[10:31] <likemindead> My speakers make a crackling noise when I'm using WiFi, kind of like when your mobile phone is near a speaker and it makes distortion noise. Know what I mean? Any ideas?
[10:32] <likemindead> It wasn't an issue before Karmic. :-\
[10:32] <eXpl0i7> move the phone on some other place :D
[10:34] <likemindead> No, it's not the phone, it's my laptop doing it on its own.
[10:35] <likemindead> I found some posts online saying that they stopped their speakers from crackling by commenting out the last line of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf but it didn't work for me.
[12:45] <Soul_Shadow> hello ppl'z
[12:46] <Soul_Shadow> I have broadwave installed lame encoder & lame acm encoder installed for it & now its acting like its mising mp3el again & will not even run... any suggestions?
[12:47] <Soul_Shadow> it was working untill I restarted
[12:49] <Soul_Shadow> is anyone home??
[13:00] <Soul_Shadow> hello niko. welcome to the lonly Xubuntu chan
[13:18]  * Soul_Shadow pokes everyone in channel
[13:22] <blip-> hi, how do I install gdm themes under ubuntu ?    the net talks about using some sort of gui, but I don't seem to have this on my 9.10 xubuntu system
[13:23] <Soul_Shadow> dunno im only one activw in htis damn chan :(
[13:23] <Soul_Shadow> active*
[13:24] <blip-> haha
[13:25] <Soul_Shadow> I need help with broadwave for linux :(
[13:25] <blip-> you;'ve only got 57 that's why
[13:25] <Soul_Shadow> what?
[13:25] <blip-> i have no idea what broadwave is, sorry.   but in general the proper approach is to just ask the questions... and wait
[13:25] <Soul_Shadow>  I have broadwave installed lame encoder & lame acm encoder installed for it & now its acting like its mising mp3el again & will not even run... any suggestions?
[13:26] <blip-> in some channels, I ask the question and leave my computer.  few hours later I get a useful answer
[13:26] <Soul_Shadow> sigh... Time I little of :(
[13:26] <Soul_Shadow> trying to set up a linux internet radio server
[13:29] <blip-> Soul_Shadow: ask in #ubuntu also.   this isn't xubuntu specific
[13:31] <Soul_Shadow> #/join #ubuntu
[13:37] <WierdAAR> Hello everybody, I just installed Xubuntu and I am wondering what manager to use to connect to my Creative Zen? I used Gnomad2 on kubuntu, but maybe there is a app more native to Xubuntu?
[13:50] <Soul_Shadow> G/L nobody active except me
[13:56] <Soul_Shadow> ....
[13:56] <Soul_Shadow>  I have broadwave installed lame encoder & lame acm encoder installed for it & now its acting like its mising mp3el again & will not even run... any suggestions?
[13:56] <Soul_Shadow> it worked first time I installed it
[14:00] <Lusule> hi guys, i'm having a problem with my new xubuntu install, it works fine when i first load it, then i update, and later it decides it's not going to let me log in - it sends me to the log inscreen (even though I told it not to) and hten when i log in, looks like it's going to work, but hcanges its mind and sends me back to login in an endless loop
[14:09] <TheSheep> Lusule: make sure you select session at login
[14:09] <Lusule> TheSheep: I have
[14:10] <TheSheep> there might be two with the same name, try both
[14:10] <Lusule> i have
[14:10] <TheSheep> there was a bug...
[14:12] <Lusule> there are two xfce sessions and they both boot me back to gdm
[14:23] <Psilocybin_Elf> Hi guys, I got a kernal update on Xubuntu 8.10 the other day, does anyone know which version it was? I can't remember...
[14:23] <Psilocybin_Elf> Or is there a command to get the kernal version listed?
[14:23] <bittin`> uname -m
[14:24] <Psilocybin_Elf> Cheers :-)
[14:24] <Sysi> i use -a usually
[14:24] <bittin`> or uname -s i mean :<
[14:24] <Psilocybin_Elf> Oh yeah, thanx :-)
[14:24] <bittin`> or -a :)
[14:24] <bittin`> iam in other minds at the moment :D
[14:26] <Psilocybin_Elf> Hehehe
[14:27] <Lusule> okay, i did sudo stop gdm, then startx, and that loads it up fine
[14:28] <Lusule> so it looks like the problem is with gdm
[14:29] <TheSheep> yeah
[14:33] <Lusule> right so it's definitely a gdm problem, maybe i should just uninstall gdm, i don't need it, this is the only login i'll ever use
[14:39] <TheSheep> Lusule: be aware that gdm does quite some additional work in xubuntu, setting up ICE auth and some ssh-agents and such
[14:39] <TheSheep> Lusule: I never manager to get 100% functional desktop without gdm
[14:39] <TheSheep> managed*
[14:39] <Lusule> i don't seem to have a 100% functional desktop with it ><
[14:40] <Lusule> i have to kill it before i can log in
[15:14] <Lusule> this install is not going well for me >< also have no sound, on a toshiba laptop
[15:15] <Sysi> karmic? have you checked that everything is unmuted
[15:15] <Lusule> where do i find those settings?
[15:16] <Sysi> click icon in panel
[15:16] <Lusule> GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices.  Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing.  It may also be a permissions problem.
[15:16] <Sysi> i think there's two places now, different for gnome-volume-manager and xfce-*
[16:42] <taloha> hello all i have a problem, how to disable shade/unshade titlebar in xfce ?
[16:43] <Sysi> you mean hiding? right click and configure panel
[16:44] <taloha> not panel
[16:44] <taloha> but titlebar
[16:45] <Sysi> hum, you can at least take that button of from window manager settings
[16:46] <Sysi> (sorry when bad english)
[16:47] <taloha> np my english is bad too :)
[16:48] <taloha> but nothing option to disable shade/unshade in window manager settings
[16:48] <Sysi> i'm not sure if it's possible
[16:56] <WierdAAR> Hello, I just saw the following when install Battle for Wesnoth. "The following packages were installed and are no longer needed "20-30 names". Type sudo apt-get autoremove to remove them". What should I make of this?
[17:10] <TheSheep> WierdAAR: what is unclear about that message?
[17:39] <Lusule> hi there, i've managed to completely stuff up my install trying to get some issues working.  Now I can't even startx, I only have console.  I want to create a live-usb-pen to try ubuntu and see if that works any better, is there a way to do so from within console or do i need to reinstall xubuntu first?
[17:41] <TheSheep> you can use w3m to browse
[17:41] <TheSheep> find some howto
[17:41] <Lusule> i'm using my iphone
[17:41] <Lusule> doesn't look like there is :(
[17:42] <TheSheep> sure there is, that's how you did it before they made that fancy gui
[17:42] <TheSheep> it's just... complicated
[17:42] <Lusule> yeah, i think it's easier just to reinstall and create it from there
[17:42] <Lusule> bearing in mind i can't get a basic out of the box laptop setup to work
[17:43] <Lusule> i'm going to avoid fancy stuff for now
[17:43] <Lusule> if i didn't hate windows so much i'd give up at this point
[17:52] <slow-motion> hi
[18:11] <rlameiro> hi there
[18:11] <rlameiro> has anyone here made a net install with a minimal cd?
[18:11] <rlameiro> I made an mirror with apt-mirror
[18:11] <rlameiro> but the installer cant find the release file
[18:12] <rlameiro> my apache server is running
[18:12] <rlameiro> I can acess it via network from others computer
[18:17] <Sachse_Siechtum> How can I make a makro or something so I can start several programs instead clicking on every single one in the start menu?
[18:19] <rlameiro> Sachse_Siechtum, you can make a script in bash that opens the programs you want
[18:19] <rlameiro> I cant program bash
[18:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> is there a how-to somewhere?
[18:19] <rlameiro> but i am sure it is easy to do, read around the net
[18:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> I'm not familiar in programming in linux
[18:19] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[18:19] <rlameiro> bash is easy
[18:20] <rlameiro> but you need to learn
[18:20] <rlameiro> maybe ask someone in programming
[18:20] <Sachse_Siechtum> I used to pogram in turbo pascal but that was 10 years ago *g*
[18:20] <rlameiro> or search linux bash progrqamming
[18:21] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok
[18:21] <bazhang> nothing like startup applications in preferences?
[18:21] <rlameiro> Sachse_Siechtum, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[18:22] <rlameiro> yea, you can also add the software to the startup
[18:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> bazhang I thought about that too...
[18:22] <rlameiro> but it will always open the apps when you login
[18:22] <Sachse_Siechtum> yeah
[18:23] <bazhang> applications>settings>settings manager ?
[18:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> oh another thing...how can I change rights on my floppy drive? right now I cant mount it, only root can..
[18:23] <bazhang> seems a whole lot easier than learning bash
[18:23] <Sachse_Siechtum> baz yeah
[18:26] <rlameiro> you wanted a makro... not to open it always... i only said bash because is builtin in all ubuntu
[18:26] <rlameiro> it could be in python or whatever
[18:27] <rlameiro> Sachse_Siechtum, about the floppy look at the user and groups... maybe there is a group for the floppy, if so you need to add yourself to the group
[18:28] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok. :-)
[18:29] <Sachse_Siechtum> I found a group "floppy" and checked my name on it.
[18:36] <rlameiro> Sachse_Siechtum, does it work now?
[18:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> just a moment...
[18:36] <Sachse_Siechtum> No. :-( still says "only root can mount...."
[19:31] <genii> When you change groups in the gui you need a logout-login cycle to make it effective
[19:34] <Sachse_Siechtum> ok Thanks.
[22:19] <slow-motion> n8