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mhall119highvoltage, got my first Qimo 2.0 packages built!03:35
mhall119so Scratch doesn't look to be in the repos, anybody have suggestions on something I can use in place of eToys?14:01
mhall119highvoltage, ping14:38
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AlanBellI am playing with wiimote whiteboard stuff at the moment22:50
AlanBellit would be rather good to get it packaged for Ubuntu22:50
AlanBellit is a python app, with a few dependencies, all in the repos22:52
AlanBellhttp://github.com/pnegre/python-whiteboard22:53
AlanBellthere is also this one http://www.stepd.ca/gtkwhiteboard/22:54
AlanBellI will have a go at packaging it at some point in the next few weeks22:55
AlanBellbut I am a bit of a newbie to the whole packaging thing. If anyone wants to help that would be great.22:55
AlanBellI think it would be amazing if someone could install Ubuntu, install the whiteboard app and then with a wiimote and a projector and a £10 IR pen have an interactive whiteboard22:57
stgraberAs been a while I wanted to test that though haven't had the chance yet22:59
stgraberat this point, it's extremely unlikely something new enters Lucid as we have our Feature Freeze on Thursday but it's clearly something we should look at, east least for Lucid+122:59
alkisgAlanBell: did those apps work for you?23:01
stgraberalkisg: I just did a test with VBox, it booted just fine ...23:13
alkisgstgraber: hmm... except for that vbox problem, I also have a problem with tftpd-hpa not starting at boot.23:14
alkisgstgraber: what settings do you use in vbox?23:14
alkisgnetworking / pae etc?23:14
stgraberalkisg: I used the usual one, bridged using the VT extension of my CPU, PAE enabled + 3D graphic23:15
stgraberalkisg: http://pastebin.com/f69a74c9223:15
* alkisg shrugs... I can reproduce the problem here 100% - removing nbd-proxy make it work, reinstalling it make it halt23:15
stgraberalkisg: can you try: ltsp-update-image --arch i386 -n23:16
stgraberI'm wondering if that's my use of -n that solves the issue ;)23:16
stgraber(as it had fixed quite a lot of stability issue for me in the past)23:16
alkisgtrying...23:17
alkisg(btw do you see any speed difference with -n? )23:17
stgrabernot really no, it's using slightly more bandwidth and less CPU but that's about it23:18
stgraberthough most squashfs issues I had sometime, completely vanished once I started using -n23:18
runouthi, for the wii whiteboard i found some packages which did not work. they claim to have a problem with the bluetooth stack of bluez23:18
runoutfollowing seems to work (last post with download) http://code.google.com/p/linux-whiteboard/issues/detail?id=2223:19
alkisgstgraber: nah, the same23:23
alkisgbs=1024, sz=537016, and then hangs23:23
stgraberalkisg: can you boot without nbd-proxy, then do:23:25
stgraber- nbd-proxy <server ip> 2000 200023:25
stgraber- nbd-client /dev/nbd1 127.0.0.1 200123:25
stgraber- mkdir -p /mnt/test23:25
stgraber- mount /dev/nbd1 /mnt/test23:25
alkisgWith break=mount ?23:25
stgrabersomething should fail at some point doing that23:25
stgraberalkisg: nope, just boot the thin client as usual and do that from the shell23:26
alkisgok23:26
stgraberit won't disconnect the existing nbd connection so it shouldn't be a problem23:26
alkisgbtw I also tried with your client (.xml), no difference23:26
* alkisg also notes that he's using the default generic-pae kernel... (i386)23:28
stgraberI'm on Lucid amd64 on my laptop (where the VM was running), actual thin client is an Intel Atom one with 512MB of RAM and gigabit network to the server23:29
stgraberI have 10 or so of them at the office running on Lucid, some as thin client, some as fat. All with the latest packages from my PPA23:29
alkisgnbd-proxy 10.160.31.10 2000 200023:31
alkisgHangup23:31
alkisgFrom syslog: Feb 14 01:32:29 alkis nbd_server[11106]: Read failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device23:32
stgraberalkisg: interesting, that's lucid 32bit right ?23:33
alkisgYup23:33
stgraberI'll get you a debug version then, hang on a sec23:33
stgraberalkisg: http://www.stgraber.org/download/nbd-proxy23:35
stgraberalkisg: make it executable and run it with: ./nbd-proxy 10.160.31.10 2000 2000 2> debug.log23:35
stgraberyou should then have a full debug log in debug.log23:36
alkisgstgraber: I tried again the same line (with the original nbd-proxy) and it worked!23:36
stgraberhmm, something is really wrong then ...23:36
stgraberso running the same thing two times failed the first time and worked the second ?23:36
alkisgYes23:36
alkisgLet me reboot and test it again...23:37
alkisgYes, again the same thing23:38
alkisg(so a quick fix would be to run it twice :P)23:38
alkisgok, putting the debug version...23:38
stgraberdoes it die the first time ?23:38
stgraberit's supposed to fork into background23:38
stgraberso you would have to check with "ps aux"23:38
alkisgIt just says "Hangup" - I didn't look at ps23:39
alkisgThe second time, it doesn't fork to the background23:39
alkisgIt just waits - I thought it woulnd't fork..23:39
stgraberhmm, ok, so it's actually behaving as it should ...23:39
stgraberit's supposed to fork and say "hangup" (I don't remember why the "hangup")23:40
stgraberand if it's already running, then it'll hang until the previous instance is killed23:40
stgraber(as it can't listen twice on the same port)23:40
alkisgAh23:40
alkisgYeah, I see it on the processes list23:40
stgraberwhat's happening if you do that nbd-client ?23:40
alkisgError: cannot open NBD: No such file or directory23:41
alkisgPlease ensure the 'nbd' module is loaded.23:41
alkisgwith: nbd-client /dev/nbd1 127.0.0.1 200123:41
stgrabermy bad23:42
stgrabernbd-client 127.0.0.1 2001 /dev/nbd123:42
stgraberthat should work better23:42
alkisgError: Connect: Connection refused23:42
alkisgshould that be 2001 or 2000?23:42
stgraberyeah ... seems like I'm half-asleep and it's not even late here ... :)23:43
alkisgwith 2000 it connects but I get a whole lot of errors23:43
stgraberwhat kind of error ?23:43
alkisgBuffer I/O error on device nbd1, logical block 123:43
alkisgnbd1: Attempted send on closed socket23:44
stgraberoh, interesting23:44
stgraberis nbd-proxy still running ?23:44
alkisgUh, ok, pressing ctrl+z / bg to check...23:44
alkisgYes, it is23:45
stgraberok, then I'm going to need some debug info I guess ;)23:45
alkisgnbd-client died though. I rerun it and now it hanged on "Negotiation:"23:45
stgraberrestart the VM to get the kernel in a sane state23:45
alkisgstgraber: I can also give you vnc access if you want...23:45
stgraberalkisg: that'd be great23:46
alkisgI usually do it with x11vnc -connect, but you'd need vncviewer -listen and a port forwarding for that, any other ideas?23:46
alkisgAh, silly me23:47
alkisgSorry, I'll just port forward 590023:47

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